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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback as the Commissioner gets ready to meet with the media later on today. Buddha in San Francisco joining us.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Buddha, What up DP, just sitting here and joining the Sunrise rest and worst of the weekend. Worse is Lebron making the All Star Game. I'm just over this iteration of the Lakers. Let's move on now. And the best is Dan Patrick's show coming to San Francisco and being here with Dan Nation. Who's got it better than not?

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Speaker 4: No nobody?

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Speaker 3: And I'm also here to collect on the bet Dan since I'm here. Well, Marvin owes me a pie of the face for my Dodger World series, and being here, we're both on the set. Just say him.

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Speaker 5: We'll discuss that. Marvin. You look a little surprised.

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Speaker 6: I'll have no pie clothes. Oh that's out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, No, no pie clothes, no pie closes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but you did, bet? I did? Okay, Okay, bet for sure? All right? Fair enough?

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Speaker 2: Uh, He's the Monday Morning Quarterback and it just happens to be Monday and always generous with his time. Whenever we call, he is available. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback, their senior NFL reporter who joins this here in the man cave. Good Albert, there he is, kid him once again if he had Yeah, you be right there right next to me. All right, But if we if we did have an octagon inside NFL Insider, I got my Glazer is going to win that.

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Speaker 4: I've got reach on everybody, though, I think, right, could could you take so I take Glazer off the board?

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Speaker 5: Can you Adam Schefter?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think I got I'm younger, I'm taller, Okay, so okay, I think so.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paula Schefter stock here, low profile, lower to the ground. Albert again does have reach and confidence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Peter King, you could take I Nobody could hit Peter though, right, okay, because he's too good a guy, nice guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean I.

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Speaker 4: Just like I just couldn't do that, no way. But if you had to, if you have to, and I put him, I put him in I put him in a headlock, just so I didn't do any real damage.

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Speaker 5: So you just put him to sleep?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, you get the first question to the commissioner today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you asked me this before. I think there are three uncomfortable questions that he could be asked today that I think, to me probably need to be asked. Number one is the running rule, which there were ten head coach hires. It's all done now, not one African American hire. There are only three African American head coaches left. There was only one minority higher that was Robert Sala to the Titans. So that'd be Number one is do you feel like you've taken a step back. It also happens to be in the year they canceled the Accelerator, they generally had this networking event for minority coaches in the spring that this year they canceled it. There was some suspicion that that was done because of the deal they were trying to do with the current administration, the merger, right like that there were some moving pieces there.

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Speaker 5: Wait explain that so well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at the very least, there were rumblings out there that while they were while the merger was going through because the Justice Department needs to approve it.

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Speaker 5: This is NFL network and e sp right.

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Speaker 4: Right, that there were rumblings that they were going to do what they needed to do to appease the current administration to get this stuff push through. So at the very least, I know there were people that felt like it was bad optics that they were canceling that event. And then they had a photo op with the president if you remember to announce the twenty twenty seven draft in the Oval Office. That was the first photo op that a sitting commissioner has done with the president in twenty two years. So you had the combination of the merger, the diversity event getting canceled, and then the photo op with the president all happening at once. So there were people that put those pieces together. So I think there are big picture questions that need to be asked on the Rooney Rule. Another uncomfortable question is what we all saw at the Epstein files on Friday right multiple NFL owners named. Obviously one I think was on a completely different level than the rest. How does Steve Tish? How does Steve Tish's involvement in the Epstein files affect his ownership of the Giants going forward? And then the third uncomfortable question I think is more of a football question, which would be the state of officiating, because I do think to some degree it's just there's not enough training. I don't know how you guys feel watching it, but I cover this stuff for a living and it's hard for me to tell and I know how this stuff or it's hard for me to tell who's making the decisions, you know, So like the lack of transparency, especially when you're doing business with the gambling company, it's the way that you are now. Does there need to be more transparency? I've advocated, I think, and this is this isn't on the officials themselves. I think they've just continued to pile new technology on top of new technology, on top of new technology, rule change off the top of rule change, on top of rule change. They've tangled it up and made it so hard for the officials to adjudicate the game out there. And to me, it's like you've seen what it looks like at field level, it's a blur.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: You have to train your eyes to look for things. And if you're giving guys fifteen new things to look at every year, points of emphasis, rules changes, and then on top of that, they know big brothers watching right, They've got the camera watching, and so they've got that in their head. It just feels like this is something where we have all this technology. Now maybe it's time to rebuild the thing all together, right and figure out a better way to use the technology, because just taking the old system and piling technology on top of it I don't think is working.

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Speaker 2: They need to subtract. I keep saying, stop adding, start, subtract.

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Speaker 4: Tear it down to the studs and like, find a more efficient way.

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Speaker 5: Can we listen?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we'll get to the point where we get to listen what the conversation is during a replay?

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought of that.

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Speaker 5: The ACC is doing. I've said it for years.

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Speaker 2: If you have nothing to hide, if we're all in it together to get it right, yeah, let's listen. Like the Broncos interception, like that's not even reviewed, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was so quick and that was the problem Sean McDermott had with it, right, It wasn't. It wasn't that like they even with the time out though, right, And he tried to, but it just felt like it was rushed through, right, and so like, what's the process there and I do think, I mean, maybe you don't give it to the fans in the moment, but you give it to him at some point. I mean, I I don't know, I guess the the the the downside to that would be potentially vilifying an individual, a vilifying official that said, that's what happens to the coaches and players on a weekly days.

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Speaker 2: But we don't remember you if you get it right, we remember you get it wrong. So if it exonerates you, now.

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Speaker 5: I know that.

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Speaker 2: You know, go back to the Rams and the Saints in that in that games interference, yes, and a helmet.

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Speaker 5: To the head as well. They could have called two things.

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Speaker 2: If you put together an all star officiating crew, nobody wants to rat out somebody else and say you miss the call, and you can ask for help. And I think if you have your team together, you're with the whole year. You got my back, yep, I'm not going to remember you if you get the call right. I'll remember if you get the call wrong. And I think that's what the NFL needs to do.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that's why I've always advocated for the sky judge, like having that person be a part of the crew. In the stadium, all right, that person should be there. And like I just think the having the man behind the curtain in New York who may or may not be worried about what public perception is going to be on Monday or Tuesday, like having an experienced official in the booth as part of the equation when it comes to the on field crew and they're accountable to each other, and that guy up in the booth, like he has to see the coaches before the game. On the field, he's accountable to the coaches. He's accountable to the players too. I felt like that was an answer, maybe not the answer, but one of the answers that we could get to.

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Speaker 2: All he's the Monday morning quarterback. Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter. How does the commissioner answer the Steve Tish Epstein file question?

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Speaker 5: My guess would be, how would you pose the question?

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Speaker 4: I would I would say, how are you going to handle? Maybe I will be the one to ask it. How how are you gonna how how are you going to handle owners appearing in the Epstein files? And how are you going to separate one from the other? Because I think there were I want to say it was four. Four of them so far at least have have surfaced in the Epstein files. But the one, the Tish one, is way is like a different level, or at least it reads that way now he's put out his statement, but it reads like like the other ones are just sort of tangentially involved. I'm almost sasitant to name them because it doesn't there's no proof that they're actually involved in the wrong the real horrible horror fied like the wrongdoing there. But you know, like with with Tish, it's like, okay, like how do you separate that? And then can the NFL go forward with a guy who is in this sort of whoo who now has this on his record is representing the NFL right and they always say they hold the owners to a higher standard. Will this got to be something where you prove it and you show it, and so it'll be interesting to see to see.

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Speaker 5: The way that that one's handled.

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Speaker 2: Does the commissioner care about the voting process of the Hall of Fame where that question come up?

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Speaker 4: He's not really involved in it, That's the thing. It's like, But it's still the NFL right, And that's when people don't really recognize that the NFL doesn't run the Hall of Fames its own entity. Now can the influences, but it is in conjunction with right, and it does reflect on the NFL because most people aren't like you and me. Most people don't just there's no distinction of them, right, So for most people, like, if something goes wrong with the Pro Football Hall of Fame, most people are what you're saying is most people will associate it with the NFL itself. I like, I think he could definitely, you know, have an audience with them. And you know, this particular case is fascinating to me because and for everybody who doesn't know, they've grouped the seniors together now with the coach and the contributor. I think the main problem now is the seniors by definition are almost like chees chance candidates, right, So you almost have, if you're a voter, you almost have to treat those as I'm gonna get one shot to put this guy in, whereas you know with Bill Belichick, with Robert Craft, you might get multiple shots. You've already gotten multiple shots to put Craft in, right, You're probably gonna get mutiple shots to put Belichick in. And so to me, the way I would vote if I had to vote, is I would look at each of them as yes, no, And if there are four yeses, I take the three most emphatic guesses.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think the way other people are interpreting this is, well, this might be my last chance to get this guy in, so I'll get around to that guy later. And I just think so much of that being left to interpretation is sort of the problem here.

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Speaker 2: But do you think it's a coincidence that Belichick didn't get voted in or is this a small group effort?

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Speaker 4: You mean, like there's people banding together against him. Yeah, I don't know that. I So I talked to a handful of voters. This came up in New England on one of the shows I do, and a producer asked me, Hey, could you like just look into the chances Craft and Belichick have a getting in. So I poked around and I called a handful of voters I knew, you know, really well and trust, and every one of them said, well, Belichick, there's no question it's going to be fifty for fifty, And so I started looking at like Craft's candidacy. Then it's like, okay, if there's one hundred and fifty votes, because that's what it would be. Everybody gets to vote for three, they're fifty voters, and Belichick gobbles up fifty of them, Well, then it's going to be harder for any of the other four guys to get in. And so I think for a lot of the voters, it was genuinely stunning that Bill didn't get in, and they were surprised it wasn't unanimous.

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Speaker 5: So there's some.

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Speaker 4: Divide there on the way that people are interpreting this. And I was shocked. I mean, I can't believe eleven people didn't vote for him, you know. And I'm normally I'm normally one of these guys, Like I look at that, like and I that's a hard job, you know what I mean. And you've got people's legacies in your hands, and that's a really difficult like how do you separate one person from the next? Like that's all. So I've I've been hesitant in the past to say, like, yeah, that guy's an idiot for voting this way, because I don't have a vote, you know, Like, so I don't, like I haven't been in that spot, but this one, to me, is so overwhelmingly obvious, it's the greatest coach of all time.

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Speaker 2: Well, nobody's getting in first ballot. No coach is getting in first ballot. I mean after this, yeah, no one.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think it's ridiculous that Mike Shannan's not in, you know what I mean, Like when I said this last year, I think it's like he won two Super Bowls. He's been out for what over a decade now, and half the league is running his offense, and like more than half of that group of offenses is run by people who worked for him, you know what I mean. Like, so you go down and you look at his tree, I mean it is it's right there with the and he's part of the Wall Street I guess, right, like because he worked for Seaffert. Yeah, but it's like it's as big as the Wall Street was or bigger. And his influence on the game has been so immense. So I look at Shanahan as like that is so simple for me, and Bill won six. I just I don't know, it's crazy to me because I do think it's one sport. I agree players should get in over coaches generally.

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Speaker 6: But it is.

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Speaker 4: Having covered this covered the league for twenty one years. I think it's the sport where the coaches have the biggest influence in winning and losing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know there's eighteen games, seventeen games, and then you got the playoffs, and yes, you're going to make a bigger impact weekend and week out. I just I find it strange that we're now parsing the well, what was Belichick's record without Brady? And I go, right, did we do that to any other coach in history where we did this?

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Speaker 5: And the answer is no.

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Speaker 2: And if you said, hey cheated, okay, and if that's your reason that he cheated, fun, just tell me. But don't vote for him next year because he's still cheated.

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Speaker 4: And that's what the first ballot thing kills me. I know, it just kills me because I'm like, all right, so like now you're the judge, jury, and executioner. Like to me, it's a yes or no question. It should be hard to get in, right, And so to me, it's not a I'm not ranking the Hall of famers. It's either yes or no. And if I have to vote no on somebody because there's a limit on how many people I can vote for, then so be it, right, like if it's there are seven deserving guys and I can vote for five, and that means I'm leaving two deserving guys off, and that's the reason why they're not first be at ballot.

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Speaker 5: So be it. But it shouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't view him the same way as this other guy, like it should be the five most emphatic yes, is if you have five votes and in this case, like, I don't know how you could look at that list and it was Elsie Greenwood, Ken Anderson, Roger Craig, Robert Craft, and Bill Belichick and say he's not one of the three most deserving guys in that list.

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Speaker 5: That makes no sense, all right, real quick?

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Speaker 2: The best coaching hire and the most questionable coaching higher.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard not to say John Harbaugh because I think he's gonna be a real difference maker for the Giants. I am fascinated to see Kevin Stefanski in Atlanta because of everything that he dealt with in Cleveland. And I think he's a much better coach than people realize. And I think when you look at him, like how there was a groundswell of teams coming after him, right and the Giants were on him, and Tennessee was in on him, and Miami was in on him, and it was I mean, I'm just telling you, like the pursuit of him. It wasn't quite what it was with Harbab, but it was not far off. And that tells you what the league thinks of him. You know. So if the easy answers Harbaugh, he's a super Bowl winning coach, that puts you on a different plateau. But I mean, Kevin Stefanski is not far off. I mean the one that people have the biggest question on I think is going to be Michael Floor in Arizona, which I think is really reflective of them having a little bit less to sell. They've got a complicated quarterback situation because Kyler Murray has guaranteed money not just this year but next year. Shout out to his agent.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 4: So so how do you how do you how do you separate right like from from Kyler Murray? And you know, so like that, I thig Michael Floor because that was a job that I don't think was seen as being very desirable. You're going to be attached to a GM who's going into his fourth year, so you're now on his timeline. That one I think is going to be challenging. And I think it's sort of indicative. Honestly, Dan, I said to you last year, right that I thought. I think I said that, like Stafford was going to be the big story, right and and I think it was for that month after and I think I had the Steelers getting Stafford. They wind up with Rogers instead. I think some of these teams out here are going to quietly take big swings at quarterback and call teams you wouldn't think that you you'd be able to call. And I think that that's gonna be a big piece. Now we're gonna have like the Reclamation. Would you take a swing at Joe Burrow? I would call? I mean, And that's sort of what I'm getting. Okay, you know, like I think teams are gonna call Cincinnati and Joe Burrow. I think teams are gonna call Houston on CJ. Strad Now, please don't aggregate this. Instead anyone is shopping anyone of these, that's not good luck with that. That's not what this is. But when you look at the makeup of where we are, right and look Fernando Mendoza. I mean fit them and silver and black. Right now, he's gonna be He's gonna be a bit, He's gonna be Las Vegas Raid. There's a massive drop off. There's not another quarterback that people are excited about in this year's class. And that's even if Trinidad Chamblis winds up in the class that's including ty Simpson. Like, there's just not another one. And even Mendoza isn't seen as like what the way Caleb and Jaden Daniels and Drake may were. I think Bernano Mendoza would have been the fourth quarterback in that class. So because of that, teams are going to have to be a little bit more creative. So do you call Cincinnati on Burrow? Do you call Houston on CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud?

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Speaker 4: And then you have I think the more natural reclamation projects would be, which would be mac Jones with the Niners to be able to get something for it because his contract is very reasonable.

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Speaker 5: You know, two a tongue of AALOA Kyler, Murray Malik Willis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Malik Willis is a very interesting name. Just Jeff Hafley bring him to Miami from Green Bay. You know, John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Hafley were with him in Green Bay. So I just think that there's gonna I just think this year, because of the draft, class is going to require creativity, which I think will cause some teams to at least pick up the phone on a on a sort of All they can say is no basis you.

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Speaker 2: Final Hour in this Monday Dan and the Dane's Dan Patrick Show the China Basin Park here. Thank you to the San Francisco Giants who said you can have what you need and we took advantage of that. The beautiful backdrop here with Oracle Park McCovey cove. Also, the Giants set us up a couple of years ago in Scottsdale at their minor league ballpark and had a beautiful time facility there. They even let us have the Jumbo Tron. We haven't gotten to use the Jumbo Tron yet, but you know we're going to find out here in a couple of minutes if we're able to pull that off.

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Speaker 5: All right, A couple of notes here.

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Speaker 2: The NFL Commissioner is going to meet with the media later today and there's some football related stuff, but probably some uncomfortable conversations as well that will be had. The Raiders are hiring Clint Kubiak, who will be the offensive coordinator in the Super Bowl. Mike Lafleur, Matt Lefleur's brother, the offensive coordinator for the Rams, will take over with the Arizona Cardinals. Try to get to more of your phone calls coming up in this first hour.

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. He is the president and CEO of the San Francisco Giants. He's Larry Bear who joins us now. Yeah, hi Dan, and he came bearing gifts as well.

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Speaker 6: Yes we have you're you're now a giant for life. Here we are the cream colored jerseys, all right. That Willie May's Willie McCovey, Barry Bonds war. Yeah, and it's all yours. Welcome to San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and uh, thank you for letting us have the facility here. Now, can you can you turn on the jumbo trip Do you have something on your phone?

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Speaker 6: My button to turn on the jumper trin Okay, got my little gets, my my little shoe button.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever opened the stadium for your kids to go in and like they want to take, you know, have whiffle ball or something like that.

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Speaker 6: You know, we've had We've had activities here for school groups and everything, not just for my children, but we've you know, it's such a magical thing, a ballpark. You know, we kind of take it for granted, those of us who come to it every day. But I have memories of going with my father out to Candlestick Park on the bus and watching Willie May's, Willie McCovey, Juan marichall play, you know, Hall of Famers, all Hall of Famers play. When the Giants moved to San Francisco in the sixties and then the seventies at Candlestick and this ballpark now Oracle Park, our new ballpark is core century old and going strong. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about the shelf life of stadiums, because it feels like there is a finite amount of time before we then tear something down and we maybe move someplace or build something on the same property here.

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Speaker 5: Why will this be different here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan, I think it depends. I think it depends on a few things, on the location, on the feel on how you're able to curate a ballpark over time. And I'll never forget when we acquired the Giants. Say, just back now to the nineteen nineties, early ninety ninety three, Candlestick Park was thirty years old or so felt like it was seventy five years old. Dodger Stadium was the same age, thirty years about you know where the because Giants and Dodgers moved west at the same time, and it felt like it was ten years old. It was maintained beautifully Dodger Stadium, and here it is going strong today. So you know, we we we very much hope that we can be in the vein of Wrigley Field and Femway Park and you know, be around forever. There will be obviously there'll be improvements, and we do that every year. We do make changes and add and subtract and do things. But I think, you know, we're really proud of the city of San Francisco and the location and the support. So we're not going anywhere anytime soon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you did it right.

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Speaker 2: The Vista's public transportation. You have people coming into the city, which is really important building around.

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Speaker 5: Like, that's what worries me.

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Speaker 2: Bears are going to go outside the city, you know, the Cleveland Browns outside. I want people going into a city, not leaving a city.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think, look the urban part of the urban experience. We like to talk about work, live, play, people living downtown, going to the ballpark, working downtown. It's a great urban experience here in San Francisco and lots of cities around the country. And I think if a ballpark could be part of that experience. I think also baseball uniquely because it's played during the day, often it's in the summer. You want to have that experience in and around a city with the restaurants and the economic benefit that you can get. Well, this ballpark opened thirty years ago. There wasn't a lot around this neighborhood. Now we have a whole area, a whole neighborhood. It's really the growth engine of San Francisco is right where we're sitting here, right, you know, within a walking distance of the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: I was walking around yesterday, saw the statues McCovey, Marshall, Willie Mays. Where are you placing Barry Bond's statue?

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Speaker 6: TVD TBD on Barry, but will we You know, Barry, it's interesting because the five that we have are in the Hall of Fame, the five statues, that's been sort of our criteria. But we view Barry as a Hall of Famer even though he's not in the Hall of Fame. And that's obviously a big, long discussion that has been had will continue to be had. But in our minds, he is a Hall of Famer and statue worthy. Jeff Kim. We're proud that Jeff Kent is going in the Hall of Fame now coming from the New Era ballot, and a year from now. We have some others including Buster Posey, who is our president of Baseball Operations, who we believe.

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Speaker 5: Should be first statue if.

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Speaker 6: You're in the Hall of Fame, So your statue is coming when you fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So does Bonds have any say in this.

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Speaker 6: In terms of whether he gets a statue or where it is. Yeah, we've we've talked to some de Barry with Barry about it, and uh, you know, we need to have that conversation and help figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you come to grips with him being a Hall of Famer if I say make the case for Barry Bond's Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 6: You know, look, I it's it's a tough one for us because I mean, it's not tough decision. He we believe he absolutely should be in the Hall of Fame. Uh you know, the there's criteria on the ballot, and it's hard for us to opine on him versus other players. We think that's a it's a really difficult discussion. But by any objective measure him and there are others that are not in the Hall of Fame that we believe are worthy in that era deserve to go. And that's you know that that's something it's not going to get sorted out easily. Barry was from ninety three to ninety nine, you know, before all before the allegations, was we believe Hall of Fame worthy for his career in Pittsburgh and San Francisco. So you know that we can't. You know, it's just you have a feel for it, and you it's it's a subjective view. And Barry's a giant. Berry's a great giant, one of the greatest of all time, and we believe he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. And deserves a statue.

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Speaker 5: Fill in the blank. The Dodgers are blank for baseball.

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Speaker 6: The Dodgers are a great competitor for baseball for the Giants. Do you hate?

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Speaker 5: Do you hate Dodgers?

00:28:51
Speaker 6: I don't think you know this. It's an interesting discussion. I think you've probably you've talked to the commissioner about this and others. You know, let's just take all the sports and here we are, you know, at super Bowl Week. I think having a dragon to slay in a sport, and if you go back, it was, you know, in the NFL was what's upon a time the Cowboys, the forty nine ers had their run. That's not all bad. The Yankees did that in baseball, you could say that's the Dodgers now having a dragon to slay? Is it necessarily a bad thing for the sport. We want to beat the Dodgers and we want to be at the top of the division and one day and we want to be the dragon to slay. You know, baseball is unpredictable as well. When we won three championships in twenty ten, twelve, and fourteen, we weren't predicted to win any of those years, and we didn't have a top five payroll any of those years. So hats off to the Dodger organization because they've done it with obviously high priced players, but they've also done it with farms, system and development.

00:30:01
Speaker 2: Well, people lose sight of the fact. What were they two ounce away from losing that World Series? So it wasn't that they breezed through everybody. But when are you? When did you decide do you have to hate the Dodgers like that comes with the rivalry?

00:30:15
Speaker 5: Does Hey?

00:30:15
Speaker 6: You know what, let me tell you a quick story. A couple of quick stories. Okay, number one, growing up in San Francisco, you know Juan Marischell and John Roseboro and a Giant Dodgers and Mary Wills and Sandy Colfax and Don Drysdale with May's McCovey Marichell. I mean, it was just one of the great rivalries of sports and it remains a great rivalry. So hate is I don't really, I don't like the word hate because it's just like it's it's a rivalry to get your blood boiling in a good way. But the story I wanted to say is in the Giants almost moved to Florida. This is nineteen ninety two and the team was financially on the ropes and that's when our group came together to buy the team. But there was a deal signed to move the team to Florida. The number one the number one supporter of the Giants staying in San Francisco, Peter O'Malley and the Dodgers because we came out together from Brooklyn and New York in nineteen fifty eight. And this is a spectacular rivalry. So off the you know, on the field, we try to beat each other's brains. In off the field, we're actually you know, colleagues and partners in trying to grow the sport and having opened up the sport in California, the first two teams west of the Mississippi, the Giants and Dodgers are it's a great rivalry. So the fans, we like the fans being energized and all, but we think it's, you know, really adds to the to the value of the sport having this rivalry.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: He's the president CEO of the Giants, Larry Bear. Can you overspend on your team?

00:31:51
Speaker 6: You know you can you overspend? I mean it's the question is how do you define overspending? Does it mean being in the luxury tax? Does it mean if you do development the right way right in which we've had. We were lucky enough in that era when we won championships, pretty much the entire team was homegrown, right between Buster Posey and Massive Bumgarner and Tim Linsecam and Brandon Crawford and Brandon Belt and so we didn't overspend. We didn't have to overspend. You know, we were somewhere in the top ten, but we weren't in the top five and spending. So I guess the question is do you need to overspend to win? I would say the answer is no, but you have to have the right development in baseball. Baseball is different. I mean, you come off a college campus or a high school campus for that matter, and you've got you know, the very best players are in the minor leagues for three years four years, and that's really where a lot of the arms races now. It's not necessarily. Yes, signing free agents can matter, and we've had some great free agents Barry Bonds at the top of the list, who have mattered a lot. But if you did didn't have the twenty four other players to pair them with, and the guys that are coming up through the miners. It's it's it's hard to do it through free agents only.

00:33:08
Speaker 5: Were you in on the uh Tani sweetstakes?

00:33:10
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were in on their timey. We had show A sitting in just across the water here in the ballpark trying to woo him.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: And you were gonna let him pitch in hit, yes, because not everybody wanted to do that.

00:33:26
Speaker 6: We were gonna let him pitch in head and we you know, and our salary and and deal was competitive to the DoD was pretty much the same as the Dodgers. They it's said they the agents for him at the time, c AA. They basically set out the deal. And you know, we would have played along along with that deal. But you know, I look, we understand everything. He was in southern California. Uh, he is one of one. He's a unicorn. He's amazing, and he's good for the sport.

00:33:59
Speaker 2: Were you closer to getting Otani or Aaron Judge?

00:34:04
Speaker 6: Uh? I don't know. I mean Aaron Judge grew up a lot closer to San Francisco than show Hey did.

00:34:10
Speaker 2: Uh We I thought you were getting him.

00:34:13
Speaker 5: I thought I thought you guys were gonna we.

00:34:15
Speaker 6: Had you know, it's interesting because Aarons such a great guy and he's uh grew up near here. We totally understand going back to the Yankees decision to go back to the Yankee because you're a Yankee great and you step away from that. It was in some ways out of our hands in the sense that we were getting competitive on the numbers. I'm not sure there were any numbers that were gonna get him here if he if the Yankees decided in the end they were going to keep him.

00:34:48
Speaker 3: You know.

00:34:48
Speaker 6: He we had a great event here with his uh parents and Uh. Aaron was quote as saying his favorite player growing up was rich Ailia, who played shortstop play with in front of Barry Bonds, right, and so when Aaron was growing up in the nineties, and so we had a little event here where Aaron we were having a dinner and Aaron gets tapped on the shoulder. He looked, turns around, he said, Aaron, nice to meet you. I'm so look, we did what we could. But you know, again, Aaron Judge is good for baseball. He's a tremendous player. We didn't walk into that thinking that there was some huge you know, ninety percent chance he was going to come to us because he he at the time was a Yankee great and to continue as a Yankee great is you know, is a big deal.

00:35:42
Speaker 2: Thanks for the accommodations, not only this year, but a couple of years ago Super Bowl where we were in the Scottsdale Stadium. It was wonderful. Your people have been great and we appreciate the accommodation.

00:35:54
Speaker 6: Well, thanks Dan. We love the partnership. We love a partnership with you and your your group and and with NBC. And we look forward to on NBC and Peacock Sunday Night Baseball returning. And I saw our friend Bob Costas is coming back on the air, which is awesome.

00:36:09
Speaker 2: I know Larry Bear, the president CEO of the San Francisco Giants. We take a break, We're back after this, Dan jack Hill.

00:36:19
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. What a beautiful.

00:36:31
Speaker 2: Morning, suns up, Todd ready to reveal the guns? You're gonna you got your Giants long sleeve.

00:36:39
Speaker 6: Fall like Broncos tank type. I should have broke.

00:36:43
Speaker 4: It's probably gonna did at anything since they didn't make it.

00:36:45
Speaker 5: By the way, it's a meat Friday on a meat Monday.

00:36:47
Speaker 2: Here we have bacon wrapped scallops, We have Waguo steak and eggs, and we have loaded baked potatoes.

00:36:52
Speaker 5: Who has it better than we do? Buddy?

00:36:56
Speaker 2: All right, talk a little baseball there, But San Francisco Giant's been very, very hospitable, and uh, I think it would be nice to go over there and maybe run the bases at some point.

00:37:09
Speaker 10: Yeah, you kidding me?

00:37:10
Speaker 5: Anything? Got the keys? Maybe we kind of walk the bases.

00:37:13
Speaker 8: I don't know, touch and I got a real head first slide into third kind of feeling going on.

00:37:19
Speaker 10: That'd be sick.

00:37:20
Speaker 5: You're gonna do Pete Rose there? The heck? Yeah?

00:37:22
Speaker 10: Well, I mean Bay Area? Ricky Henderson, Well.

00:37:24
Speaker 2: Did Ricky slide first when he stole the bass? Became the great greatest of all time?

00:37:29
Speaker 10: Now I am the greatest.

00:37:31
Speaker 5: That was at third.

00:37:32
Speaker 2: Base and he and he slid in head first the best. I ran out of time with Larry Bear. I don't a lot of things talk about there. All right, what's the pole question? Results them? We'll bring in Diana Russini.

00:37:44
Speaker 10: Right now we've got up there two pole questions.

00:37:47
Speaker 8: We have the best musical artist from the Bay Area, very controversial, Oh right now, Metallica, I have about thirty nine percent of that vote, tie at twenty five with the Journey and Great Dead Sentana and last that's unfortunate.

00:38:02
Speaker 10: And then from Paul, we have are you a sunrise or a sunset? And sixty eight percent of the audience are a sunset?

00:38:09
Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, I'm in the sunset of my life and I.

00:38:13
Speaker 10: Oh easy, sunset.

00:38:17
Speaker 6: Got a long way to go.

00:38:19
Speaker 2: No, I don't like that. D uh seven seven and a half years.

00:38:25
Speaker 6: No, I don't like it.

00:38:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're the one that's driving me to my grave.

00:38:31
Speaker 4: You apologize that you're gonna live a very, very.

00:38:33
Speaker 5: Long, healthy life. You could be an accomplice, but I die.

00:38:38
Speaker 4: It's such a harsh thing to say.

00:38:39
Speaker 6: You know how I feel about it.

00:38:40
Speaker 4: I know, but I'm the almost like twenty.

00:38:41
Speaker 10: Five saying cause of death.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: Yes, it could be natural causes slash Todd Fritz like you could.

00:38:48
Speaker 5: That's just dang joke.

00:38:50
Speaker 6: It's to take an awful.

00:38:55
Speaker 2: We make the smooth segue into bringing in the athletics, senior NFL insider co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast with Chase Daniel. Diana RUSSII is on a program look at that. No longer a mom haircut? Look at you? Got a couple of kids now all of a sudden, look at you.

00:39:18
Speaker 11: I retired the mom, Bob you did?

00:39:21
Speaker 4: You know?

00:39:21
Speaker 11: I woke up the other day and I said, you know, I want to feel young again. These kids have warned me down.

00:39:28
Speaker 12: I've aged fifteen years in a span of four years.

00:39:33
Speaker 5: How many you have two kids?

00:39:34
Speaker 12: Yeah?

00:39:34
Speaker 11: I give two boys. They're four and three. They're thirteen months apart.

00:39:38
Speaker 12: Oh, so it's like having twins. Yeah, and I'm sure this shocks you. But they have a lot of energy.

00:39:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you do too.

00:39:46
Speaker 11: Well, that's where they get it from.

00:39:47
Speaker 12: And their father's probably ten times more energetic than I am.

00:39:51
Speaker 11: So you combine that you're.

00:39:53
Speaker 2: The cool mom who covers the NFL. When they get to a certain age, it's like, what what games your mom going to?

00:40:02
Speaker 8: Yeah?

00:40:02
Speaker 12: Maybe for now it's like, you know, have you ever met a t rex? You know that that's what they care about. I've facetimed players before to just try the cool thing with them because they watch football with us on Sundays and you know, we point out players and they're little Eagles fans because their father is. So I've had players just you know, say hello to them. They could care less. They do not care. But if I could FaceTime a t Rex, me'd be good, or take them on a train.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: But it's tough though, when you look at what is real like home life with kids. They're young, and you're still trying to do your job to your standards there.

00:40:41
Speaker 12: Yeah, and also my role is a little different. I'm not just an NFL reporter. I'm an insider, So there's this expectation that I have to be on all the time, and I am, but my phone's with me a lot, and so it's balancing the act of doing my job at a high level also not having my head and my phone all the time because I don't want them to pick up on those habits. And they're old enough now to understand they know what texting is, and they have this amazing ability that if it's like the higher ranked the sources, the higher the level, the louder they scream.

00:41:18
Speaker 7: Right.

00:41:18
Speaker 12: So like my little two year old Joey, he's like owner I'm gonna go nuts right now, you know so. But I will say the one thing in the NFL that I've really appreciated, and I don't think I've really ever said it out loud, how understanding the men in this sport have been about my transition into motherhood in general, not just because they also experience it and they've seen their wives, but just I've been in the car before and they're screaming or someone's yelling, and guys always like, don't worry about it.

00:41:48
Speaker 11: I'm gonna keep talking. I know you can hear me. And this is annoying. Don't get me wrong, it's annoying.

00:41:55
Speaker 12: But I've always really I had had a conversation with an agent yesterday and my son's were screaming, and he.

00:42:00
Speaker 11: Said, hey, what do I call you later? Don't worry about go do with that.

00:42:02
Speaker 12: I just I've always really appreciated that in the NFL, especially What was.

00:42:06
Speaker 5: Your best scoop this past year?

00:42:09
Speaker 11: Oh? We had a lot.

00:42:13
Speaker 12: I don't know if there was any one specific story that we did this year that was gangbusters. Maybe maybe Brandan Ayuk, which is you know, timely because we're here, you know, he wasn't showing up. No one knew what was going on. And Kyle Shanahan is is the best at being transparent with the media.

00:42:32
Speaker 11: He's one of my favorite coaches to cover because he doesn't lie.

00:42:35
Speaker 12: And I don't know if he does that intentionally or he's just self aware that he's a bad liar, so he just doesn't do it. Whereas you know, we've seen so many other head coaches in football do such a good job of just faking through every press conference.

00:42:46
Speaker 11: So I don't know.

00:42:47
Speaker 12: I just started to notice Kyle was he was just saying less and less and less, and so he dug on that a little bit.

00:42:53
Speaker 11: And then it turns out, unfortunately Brendan and.

00:42:55
Speaker 12: Ayuk had never been at the facility at all, Like he wasn't even our round and so so Mike Silver and I my colleague, we broke that on a Friday night, and it was It caused a lot of a lot of problems after.

00:43:09
Speaker 11: That because no one wanted that out just yet. But you know how it goes.

00:43:12
Speaker 5: Give me the first question you would ask the commissioner.

00:43:16
Speaker 12: Beside, I personally am interested if we're going to have a super Bowl internationally in the next five to ten years. I would like to know if you if we're really going to be doing this, Because the league just released all these international games just about a half.

00:43:29
Speaker 11: An hour ago. We're just seeing more and more.

00:43:32
Speaker 12: But I'd say, just based on what I was reporting on the last two three weeks this coaching cycle, when you're seeing so many minority candidates get passed over this process, this past month stood out the most to me. This was the most shocking in terms of how little it seemed and almost how fake some of this stuff appeared to be in terms of these and how they went about it.

00:44:02
Speaker 11: And I felt like.

00:44:02
Speaker 12: A lot of these teams knew exactly who they wanted to hire, and they weren't going to be willing to give a chance to anyone but that person that they had on their mind.

00:44:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, but how's he dealing with that question?

00:44:11
Speaker 12: He's just gonna probably have to pass it off, right, He's not going to be able to have an answer. But I think so much of this press conference today isn't so much about getting that direct answer, but it's to begin conversations so in the offseason we can start addressing it. I mean, he I don't think this is going to be one of his easier press conferences today with how much is in the news. Sometimes these are just lollipop questions we go up there, they're not too much today.

00:44:34
Speaker 11: Today's going to be a heavy day for him.

00:44:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know it's it's like when you are going to be deposed and your lawyer said, all right, here's the questions they're going to ask you, and he's gonna be ready to go, and somebody's going to say, Steve Tish, Giana's owner and the Epstein files eighteen game schedule international, everybody's going to play an international game.

00:44:57
Speaker 5: The turf ref's officials. Yeah, transparency.

00:45:01
Speaker 12: I know you're upset about the Robert. Is it bothering you that your that your head coach got out game managed by the opposing coach?

00:45:11
Speaker 5: Wow?

00:45:12
Speaker 6: Wow, I can't.

00:45:15
Speaker 4: It's very touching scene.

00:45:17
Speaker 12: So you guys have heard of a guy named Stretch right, John Stryker has this name? Have you heard it through a couple of interviews. He is Mike Rabel's right hand man. He's the genius behind that six foot four, two hundred and sixty pound head coach.

00:45:30
Speaker 11: He's the brains in there that uh he's actually stretches, actually six six himself.

00:45:36
Speaker 12: Those two have truly become experts of the game. I think they're the best game managers of any head coach. They know this stuff, they have the bandwidth for it, They're obsessed with it. Rabel's obviously on the Competition Committee, so he knows the rules in and out, and and I consider Sean Payton to be one of the brightest coaches as well. And they lost that game because Mike Rebel out smarter them. And that's why I think the Super Bowl, by the way, is gonna.

00:46:03
Speaker 11: Talent wise, like on paper, Seattle's better.

00:46:06
Speaker 12: Yeah, they are, but this could come down to something weird and bizarre that that Rabel pulls out of his back pocket this just because he knows it so well.

00:46:16
Speaker 2: When's the last time you got yelled at by a coach or player?

00:46:19
Speaker 11: Mike Rabel?

00:46:23
Speaker 3: Uh?

00:46:24
Speaker 11: It was actually the.

00:46:27
Speaker 3: It was.

00:46:27
Speaker 11: It was pretty It was a genuine yell.

00:46:31
Speaker 12: It was the year he was out and I was at the Senior Bowl and I'd had two back to back dinners with general managers, so it was like a double booked but I had to make it work. And I had the same conversation with both these gms and they were asking me, why do I think that Mike Rabel didn't have a job, Like, why isn't he a head coach right now?

00:46:53
Speaker 11: And I said, I don't know.

00:46:54
Speaker 12: I was like, I covered him a lot in Tennessee. I thought he was collaborative, he's a leader of players.

00:46:59
Speaker 8: Leve him.

00:46:59
Speaker 7: I don't know.

00:47:00
Speaker 11: And they both offered up that they thought that he was too physically intimidating.

00:47:05
Speaker 12: So the New York Post sees this, or excuse me, I go on a podcast, The New York Post hears it, and it went from an intimidating figure that is perhaps scaring.

00:47:17
Speaker 11: Owners to like Mike Vrabel's too fat to get it. So he called me.

00:47:24
Speaker 12: He's like, why would you ever report that? That's ridiculous, That's not even true. I'm like, are you asking me if I think you're fat? You know? So, So that was that was not fun because I just think, you know, he didn't warn.

00:47:40
Speaker 5: The record, you weren't calling him.

00:47:41
Speaker 11: No, No, I was really just relaying.

00:47:46
Speaker 12: That I was relaying to I think it was Chase on the podcast that Hey, I.

00:47:53
Speaker 11: Was basically doing what I do all the time.

00:47:54
Speaker 12: Hey, I had these conversations with you general managers and they told me this is why they think, uh, you know, Raves doesn't have a and I just think that's interesting because the guy's so physically large, it's going to prevent an owner from hiring him.

00:48:05
Speaker 11: That's stupid.

00:48:06
Speaker 5: Paulie, do you have the article?

00:48:07
Speaker 7: Yeah, I found the article from February last year or two years ago. Mike rab the headline Mike Rabel's physical appearance may have been too intimidating and turn teams off Dane or any credited which was.

00:48:19
Speaker 11: The truth of what it was.

00:48:22
Speaker 12: But you know, I'm glad that you asked me about getting yelled at. I probably spend more time on the phone arguing with people in the league because I'm sure you guys are aware and you know this well. Everyone is so paranoid about information and they want it, they want control over it. And I like to dig and sometimes I like to poke around in places where people don't want to be poked. And and you have to have an ironclad stomach in this league to deal with it. Because there's a lot of yelling going on in my house and it's on the other line. My husband jokes all the time, he's like, you fight with more people in football than we fight it and I'm a different person obviously, like I have to be different with these guys because they want to push you around and they want a story told a certain way.

00:49:09
Speaker 11: But the truth is the truth.

00:49:11
Speaker 2: Do you think we're playing a super Bowl outside the United States in five if I said five and a half years, the over under because everything's gambling, so yeah, it is.

00:49:22
Speaker 11: I do think I think I want it in Italy.

00:49:27
Speaker 12: But see now everyone's sport the coliseum.

00:49:34
Speaker 11: Are our friends Big Cat and PFT.

00:49:36
Speaker 12: They give you a hard time because they know them all about the International super Bowl game.

00:49:39
Speaker 11: Because I just think that would be such a great.

00:49:41
Speaker 12: Experience because they obviously wanted here because it's an American sport.

00:49:44
Speaker 11: And I get that too, But but why not do it in a.

00:49:48
Speaker 12: Place that that, like like Tokyo, even where where there could be so much growth and it could be popular. The problem is just not as popular, you know, Like there's not gonna be a lot of fans there.

00:49:57
Speaker 11: I don't think a lot of.

00:49:58
Speaker 12: People are gonna take trips to to go see it.

00:50:01
Speaker 11: I don't believe that.

00:50:02
Speaker 5: I think you have to do it in London. I think you have to be fair.

00:50:05
Speaker 12: Start there in London because hey, we started it here, we grew it here. Yeah.

00:50:09
Speaker 11: No, no, that would make sense.

00:50:10
Speaker 2: And people would go to London, you know, it's not you know, crazy travel to get over there, so I could see them doing that.

00:50:17
Speaker 11: What number super Bowl is this for you?

00:50:19
Speaker 2: I lost track you did. Yeah, it's probably thirty seven.

00:50:25
Speaker 11: That's unbelievable.

00:50:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty six.

00:50:28
Speaker 11: What's one that stands out for you?

00:50:30
Speaker 5: Oh?

00:50:30
Speaker 2: The Seattle Patriots one really well, because I'm and I've told this story to my audience, but I'm under the goal post and so I'm handing out the trophy. So I'm I'm waiting for Marshawn Lynch to come. So he lines up to the right of Russell. Russell sends him over to the left, and I'm going here he comes, and I'm just watching Marshawn Lynch and I'm going, Okay, I'm running through the rolodex of Okay, Russ will be MVP, marsh Marshall Lynch of Pea, Pete Carroll's gonna be up there is Paul Allen, Like you know, you start go who am I interviewing? Next thing I know, Russ goes back to pass and I'm with my producer and I go, oh, bleep, like just throwing the pass. I didn't even know what happened. Next thing I know, I go, man, Malcolm Butler, not that.

00:51:18
Speaker 5: Malcolm Butler's got that.

00:51:20
Speaker 2: And I went, Okay, Robert Kraft Brady, who Gronk will be up? There is Malcolm Butler, babe. You know all these things that went through my mind just tremendous that.

00:51:29
Speaker 11: You had to maneuver that so quickly.

00:51:32
Speaker 12: I did my first NFL sideline game for Netflix this Christmas. You know, usually when you guys have seen me on TV, it's pregame, postgame XFL.

00:51:41
Speaker 11: I did sidelines, but I mean, what was that. I don't know what that was.

00:51:45
Speaker 5: Those are just rapp.

00:51:47
Speaker 11: All I know is that was the fittest I ever was.

00:51:49
Speaker 12: Like I remember, I had a coach in the NFL text me was like, you're on camera all the time, but you're not talking.

00:51:55
Speaker 5: You're just running out.

00:51:58
Speaker 12: I took your way too literal that the USPR wanted that entertaining, but that the postgame interview is so much harder than it appears, which is why people like you and Nancy and Tracy Wilson and Aaron Arels and the people that we see to do it, Melissa Storic, We'll see at the super Bowl.

00:52:15
Speaker 11: They make it look easy, but it's very difficult.

00:52:17
Speaker 12: Especially in a moment like that where it switches up so fast. Yeah, and oh ps, you're a human being too. Your adrenaline is going through the roof.

00:52:26
Speaker 2: But this happened with Pittsburgh and Arizona. Arizona is gonna win the Super Bowl. Ben leads them down, throws the touchdown pad. So I'm doing Rolodex with the Cardinals and then all of a sudden, Ben throws the perfect pass, and all of a sudden, I'm going Now I'm on the podium and then here's Ben. Ben thinks he's the MVP. I don't even know who the MVP is because Santonio Holmes has caught this, and it happens so quickly, and it's like thirty seconds before you're going live, and I'm yelling, yelling down to anybody who is the MV. Nobody's saying anything because it's it's chaos, and then somebody walks by. Eventually I'm gonna stay five times, they yoda.

00:53:06
Speaker 4: Who is the MV?

00:53:07
Speaker 5: Can somebody tell you?

00:53:08
Speaker 6: Man?

00:53:09
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I got the Steelers are coming up. I got Ben coming up, and I'm like, and somebody else out homes and I go, oh my god. Then I get in my headset Joe Namas bringing the trophy up, and you know, the Commissioner's going, are you gonna are you gonna introduce me? Are you gonna introduce me? Said yeah, oh, I introduce like it's chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos. And then it, you know, it hits you that there's one hundred million people watching and all you want to do is get off the stage.

00:53:38
Speaker 5: That's it.

00:53:39
Speaker 2: And I just remember I got off the stage, and I just remember it's chaos, confetti players, and it's as if I'm in a vacuum. I didn't hear any noise whatsoever. I just walked to my trailer at NBC and sat in there for like a half hour, and I'm going, oh my god, I don't know what just happened. It was, you know, Kurt Warner, Larry Fitzgerald, They're gonna win this, okay. And then all of a sudden I.

00:54:06
Speaker 5: Completed that touch it.

00:54:08
Speaker 1: Damn.

00:54:09
Speaker 5: Good night Back to you, Bob.

00:54:12
Speaker 4: Not much.

00:54:13
Speaker 11: How long does it take you to go to sleep after a night like that again, then adrenaline again.

00:54:19
Speaker 5: It is just like a puss long time.

00:54:22
Speaker 2: It's one of the greatest moments because I didn't tell anybody I was handing out the trophy in my family.

00:54:27
Speaker 11: Oh so they're sitting at home watching, Well.

00:54:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got people saying you're handing out the trophy and I'm like, yeah, you know. But I didn't want to tell them. I wanted them to watch in real time, and so I didn't tell anybody. But I went back and I remember I turned on an episode of the Office and I just sat there by myself and had a beer. I'm in a trailer and I'm gone, I don't know if this is supposed to be, but it was.

00:54:57
Speaker 5: It was great. You just did your job.

00:54:59
Speaker 2: And then I went I had a beer and I sat and watched an episode of the Office, and then that was it. So one hundred million people. Now I'm screwed up, by the way in front of a hundred million people.

00:55:10
Speaker 11: But yeah, but was Twitter around when you did that. Yeah, that's.

00:55:16
Speaker 12: I mean, even just like I was having this conversation with someone last night, even just journalism in twenty twenty six, and I'm not going to bore everybody with that conversation of how it just it's so difficult to report and accurately and thoroughly without people taking apart your piece and really putting it out the way they would like to. So we did a story Alec Lewis and I my my colleague who covers the Minnesota Vikings very closely. He and I did a story yesterday on why they fired their general manager, and.

00:55:46
Speaker 11: Essentially we laid out all the reasons it was.

00:55:49
Speaker 12: It was the draft picks that they didn't hit on, some of the free agents obviously, the quarterback situation right, the timing, all of all this was bizarre, but we peeled it back a little bit more to remind the readers, Hey, remember this was a little bit of an outside the box hire. This is someone that came from Wall Street and finance like he. This isn't like some guy that was, you know, working in seventeen different organizations.

00:56:10
Speaker 11: Is working his way up.

00:56:12
Speaker 12: And part of the difference in what he the way he managed was he took paternity leave for his first and second child actually while he was the general manager of the Vikings, so he took about two weeks off. He didn't go to practice, he worked remotely, and that's all anyone can talk about now is that he took he was fired because he took maternity, which is not what He did. Not get fired because he took maternity or paternity leave. But but this is just kind of the this is where that's a.

00:56:41
Speaker 2: Sexy poll quote for somebody. Yeah, man, can you believe that?

00:56:44
Speaker 12: And you're like, uh, that's terrible because it's not the truth. It's not fair to the Minnesota Vikings. If anything, the conversation that needs to be had is probably does the league need to maybe change the culture a bit and allow dads to take a little bit more time for their partners, uh, and for their babies. I can tell you my husband tried doing that and day five, I'm like, go to work, go to work. Stop looking at me, stop touching me, stop holding the baby. No one likes you here and I definitely don't. And then I got pregnant again, so that didn't last long time.

00:57:16
Speaker 5: Parent you let it touch you, Yes, I don't.

00:57:20
Speaker 2: Diana Russini, the athletic senior NFL Insider co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast with Chase Daniel, Thank you for stopping by.

00:57:27
Speaker 11: Thank you, it's so lovely to meet you in person, and.

00:57:30
Speaker 10: Well, thank you.

00:57:31
Speaker 5: Jacob break