IMDb MVP: Who's Movie Collection Would You Want on a Desert Island?

<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome to what promises to be a
<v Speaker 1>very fun, very stimulating conversation because we are going to
<v Speaker 1>determine who the IMDb MVP is. I'm Jeff Johnson from
<v Speaker 1>a Film by podcast and joining the debate I've got
<v Speaker 1>I'met and Michael from the Famous and Gravy podcast.
<v Speaker 2>Hello, gentlemen, Hello, Hello, good to be here.
<v Speaker 1>And squaring off against the Famous and Gravy podcast these
<v Speaker 1>Surely you can't be serious podcast?
<v Speaker 3>Jason and d Hello, gentlemen.
<v Speaker 4>Hey Jeff, how are you doing? Buddy doing great? What's
<v Speaker 4>going on?
<v Speaker 5>Man?
<v Speaker 4>We're ready for this time to rumble.
<v Speaker 5>I didn't realize it was so confrontations. I thought this
<v Speaker 5>was a Friday Brother.
<v Speaker 6>Would you guys be coolf with pause and saying the
<v Speaker 6>national anthem so as you get the tears out ahead
<v Speaker 6>of time.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think we should pause and talk about how
<v Speaker 1>did this episode come to be?
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so this kind of was birthed from our show,
<v Speaker 6>Famous and Gravy. The description we've been using lately is
<v Speaker 6>life Lessons from Dead Celebrities. So on every episode, we
<v Speaker 6>choose somebody who died recently and we go through a
<v Speaker 6>series of categories and answer the question would you want
<v Speaker 6>that life? The idea is it's sort of an alt
<v Speaker 6>biography in some ways. And we did an episode a
<v Speaker 6>few months back on Bill Paxton. And when I was
<v Speaker 6>doing the research on Bill Paxton, I was going through
<v Speaker 6>his IMDb and I mean, I.
<v Speaker 2>Was just like, man, movie after movie after movie.
<v Speaker 6>I was like, you know, if you were on a
<v Speaker 6>desert island and you could choose one person whose IMDb
<v Speaker 6>catalog you could have the entirety of. And I made
<v Speaker 6>a case that it should be Bill Paxton, and I
<v Speaker 6>kind of wanted somebody to challenge that, and then I
<v Speaker 6>guess a little while later, we connected with the guys
<v Speaker 6>from Shirley Can't Be Serious Jason and b and I
<v Speaker 6>think something and in that conversation sparked there and You're like,
<v Speaker 6>maybe we should do an episode on this.
<v Speaker 2>What's your memory of it? Jason?
<v Speaker 4>That's about right.
<v Speaker 7>We hooked up and we started talking about that a
<v Speaker 7>little bit, and we thought that was a great idea,
<v Speaker 7>and so here we are today.
<v Speaker 1>We got an idea of what the Famous and Gravy
<v Speaker 1>podcast is all about. Now, but what's the Shirley you
<v Speaker 1>Can't Be Serious podcast all about?
<v Speaker 4>We typically take two albums or movies from the eighties
<v Speaker 4>or nineties and compare those. We typically pick monolithic albums
<v Speaker 4>and movies, but sometimes we pick some stinkers and we say,
<v Speaker 4>what the heck happened? And then part of what we
<v Speaker 4>did last year was best year of the eighties, And
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of the marriage of Mike's idea and what
<v Speaker 4>we'd done in the past was taking something like this,
<v Speaker 4>taking actors and their catalog of work, and say who's
<v Speaker 4>the best?
<v Speaker 1>As for myself over on a film by podcast, we
<v Speaker 1>like to discuss some of Hollywood's best directors, but specifically
<v Speaker 1>their underrated hits and what we love about them. In
<v Speaker 1>the meantime, we've had some fun with some limited series
<v Speaker 1>that both Jason Andy have been involved in in the past,
<v Speaker 1>so we got a nice little pedigree of film and
<v Speaker 1>entertainment podcasting going on here, guys, shall we begin.
<v Speaker 7>Let's do this, man, Let's do it all right.
<v Speaker 1>So let's go to our first category, box office and
<v Speaker 1>quantity of roles.
<v Speaker 3>Jason, let's start with you. Who are you representing?
<v Speaker 4>Samuel L.
<v Speaker 7>Jackson, the big MF for himself and you.
<v Speaker 2>Will know my name is the law. When I lay
<v Speaker 2>my vengeance upon.
<v Speaker 7>The I feel kind of bad starting off with box office,
<v Speaker 7>so I'm gonna go ahead do IMDb credits first. So
<v Speaker 7>he's had one hundred and eighty IMDb credits. That's solid, right,
<v Speaker 7>that's good as far as box office numbers go.
<v Speaker 4>Samuel L.
<v Speaker 7>Jackson is number one for his catalog at the box office,
<v Speaker 7>and I show it somewhere around twenty eight billion dollars.
<v Speaker 7>I hate to spike the football and everybody coming out
<v Speaker 7>of the gate, but top that suckers.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I'll tell you for the listeners and for
<v Speaker 1>the listeners of a film by podcast, I thought, when
<v Speaker 1>I add like one little nugget, one little factoid about
<v Speaker 1>these performers, So Jason, you may be interested to know
<v Speaker 1>that Samuel Jackson happens to collect action figures, specifically only
<v Speaker 1>of figures of characters that he's played.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm sure he has.
<v Speaker 1>Plenty of Shaft and Frozene and Mace Windu figures, maybe
<v Speaker 1>a couple Jewels.
<v Speaker 3>Winfield's in there.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm at let's talk about who you're representing
<v Speaker 1>with this first category.
<v Speaker 3>Who are we talking about?
<v Speaker 5>I'm representing Fred Willard. Fred Willard. The reason I'm doing
<v Speaker 5>that is. We did an episode on Fred Willard. It
<v Speaker 5>was our episode fifty nine entitled Best in Show. So
<v Speaker 5>is during that episode that I realized how prolific he
<v Speaker 5>is and how many movies he has parts in.
<v Speaker 2>Regardless of the size of the part.
<v Speaker 8>I can lick any rare end problem you can bring me.
<v Speaker 8>In fact, I do a lot of celebrities too. Just
<v Speaker 8>last week I reamed out Roger Moore. He was totally satisfied.
<v Speaker 8>Matter of fact, he's coming back next weekend for a
<v Speaker 8>complete rear end job.
<v Speaker 5>We did a lot of research and a lot of
<v Speaker 5>work on him, and I was wowed by the breadth
<v Speaker 5>of his appearances and his IMDb.
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm backing him.
<v Speaker 1>I got to say, when I first heard this lineup,
<v Speaker 1>I heard the name Fred Willard. Excuse me, but Fred Willard.
<v Speaker 1>Then I saw his IMDb and was kind of wowed.
<v Speaker 1>You know, this guy knows what he's doing. I'm going
<v Speaker 1>to talk to us. What do we know about his
<v Speaker 1>box office and quantity of roles.
<v Speaker 5>I'm tob entries is at three hundred and seventeen. That's
<v Speaker 5>versus what did you say for Samuel one eight?
<v Speaker 1>I said was substantial? So Fred Willard, we've shared.
<v Speaker 5>That by one hundred and thirty seven leaps and bounds. Yes,
<v Speaker 5>the actual amount of roles is over seven hundred. Many
<v Speaker 5>of those credits are for a series in which he
<v Speaker 5>appeared multiple times, and I challenge anyone to beat that.
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to go uncontested. I'll tell you
<v Speaker 1>one thing I love about Fred Willard. I'm from Ohio.
<v Speaker 1>Fred Willard grew up just north to me in a
<v Speaker 1>little city called Shaker Heights. Turns out he was doing
<v Speaker 1>that at the same time another famous actor was doing it,
<v Speaker 1>talking about Paul Newman.
<v Speaker 3>So that's some pride for that neighborhood.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is huge.
<v Speaker 4>Fred Willard and Paul Newman could have been on the
<v Speaker 4>same Little league team.
<v Speaker 6>There's another little bit of Fred Willard trivia that I
<v Speaker 6>think really relates to your show.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I'm talking about? Dan Jason No
<v Speaker 2>hit me.
<v Speaker 6>Originally cast as the role of striker in Airplane WHOA
<v Speaker 6>and the role he was the one who would have
<v Speaker 6>said the words surely you can't be serious. Yeah, he
<v Speaker 6>was that close and he ended up not getting that.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, Wow, how about that. That's great?
<v Speaker 2>And then his wife said, actually, it would have been it.
<v Speaker 5>Wouldn't have been as funny, which I thought it was the.
<v Speaker 2>Perfect way to deal with regress. That's love and support. Beautiful.
<v Speaker 5>So you haven't hit me on box office? Do I
<v Speaker 5>even play anymore?
<v Speaker 2>It is?
<v Speaker 5>It just over after Jason to so I I think
<v Speaker 5>I'm at about a tenth of years a two point
<v Speaker 5>three billion in worldwide box office.
<v Speaker 2>It's not bad, No, it's not bad. It's just outside
<v Speaker 2>the top thousand.
<v Speaker 5>That is GDP of several countries.
<v Speaker 1>He's best in Sam Jackson in roles, but he's coming
<v Speaker 1>up short on the box office.
<v Speaker 3>D Welcome to the game, sir, hellolo, who are you representing?
<v Speaker 4>All right? My IMDb MVP is the infamous, the amazing,
<v Speaker 4>the unparalleled, Gary Oldman, Benny, bring me everyone? What do
<v Speaker 4>you mean?
<v Speaker 7>Every one?
<v Speaker 4>Pausing for applause, Thank you guys.
<v Speaker 9>All right.
<v Speaker 4>His box office at this point is eleven billion dollars,
<v Speaker 4>which puts him in the top thirty for all of
<v Speaker 4>the actors in Hollywood. IMDb has his roles at one
<v Speaker 4>hundred and six. We talked a little bit before the
<v Speaker 4>show that that can include shorts and video games and
<v Speaker 4>music videos and such, but obviously most of these are
<v Speaker 4>major roles, mostly in movies and then some TV series.
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, Deean. A fun fact for those listening
<v Speaker 1>about Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman is actually a very accomplished
<v Speaker 1>musician and has often stated he would rather be a
<v Speaker 1>musician than an actor. Fun fact about him. While on
<v Speaker 1>the set of the Harry Potter films, he taught Daniel
<v Speaker 1>Radcliffe how to play bass guitar.
<v Speaker 4>It's fantastic, that's cool. In my biography research on him,
<v Speaker 4>I saw that he actually gave music to pursue acting
<v Speaker 4>when he saw Malcolm McDowell's performance in The Raging Moon.
<v Speaker 4>How about that?
<v Speaker 1>We got one more competing for the IMDb MVP, Michael,
<v Speaker 1>who is your choice?
<v Speaker 2>Call me lazy?
<v Speaker 6>I went ahead, and since this whole ideal was aspired
<v Speaker 6>from Bill Paxton, I'm arguing for Bill Paxton.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna plant my flag in the ground there.
<v Speaker 6>I had expected his box office to be a little
<v Speaker 6>better than it is.
<v Speaker 2>It's not bad.
<v Speaker 6>It's a very respectable four billion, eight hundred million, which
<v Speaker 6>puts him somewhere around one hundred and thirty six in
<v Speaker 6>the global ranking. I had expected it to be better
<v Speaker 6>because of his association with James Cameron films, which you
<v Speaker 6>know have consistently performed extremely Well.
<v Speaker 2>That's it. Man, game over, Man, game over?
<v Speaker 6>What are we going to do? I guess I want
<v Speaker 6>to make the case here while we're on this category
<v Speaker 6>that money.
<v Speaker 2>Is not everything. It's also about you do with those roles.
<v Speaker 6>And I think that there is a per movie calculation
<v Speaker 6>worth doing here. Because Bill Paxson was in He's credited
<v Speaker 6>with about ninety nine different parts, most of those are TV.
<v Speaker 6>I actually don't know the exact number for movie, but
<v Speaker 6>I think if you were to take just a box
<v Speaker 6>office movie and then divide it by the number of movies,
<v Speaker 6>and I think there might be a case there that
<v Speaker 6>the per movie gross is strong.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not sure i'm making that.
<v Speaker 4>I would really feel sorry for Fred Willard if that
<v Speaker 4>was our met Yes.
<v Speaker 6>Each of your movies is worth about three dollars, so
<v Speaker 6>that's all you got. Yeah, So that's my case, Bill Paxon,
<v Speaker 6>I'm here to represent him.
<v Speaker 1>This is a fantastic lineup of actors that we're discussing today.
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see how this is going to
<v Speaker 1>shake out. So let's get into another category that might
<v Speaker 1>shed a little more light on how accomplished these actors
<v Speaker 1>are talking about our second category, genre diversity. You know,
<v Speaker 1>when an actor looks at a script and he looks
<v Speaker 1>at his options, I mean he's got action, sci fi, thrillers,
<v Speaker 1>horror films, romance, westerns, dramas, comedies, sports, themed movies, action.
<v Speaker 3>Adventures, mysteries.
<v Speaker 1>There's so many genres and subgenres to choose from. So
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this genre diversity of these four guys,
<v Speaker 1>starting with Samuel L. Jackson, Jason.
<v Speaker 7>All right, Samuel L. Jackson's diversity I think is excellent.
<v Speaker 7>So you want action movies, We've got Diehard three. We've
<v Speaker 7>got Patriot Games. We've got The Long Kiss good Night.
<v Speaker 7>We've got the Kingsman movies. You want westerns, We've got
<v Speaker 7>Django and Chain. We've got The Hateful Eight. You want romance,
<v Speaker 7>how about Out of Sight, Jungle Fever?
<v Speaker 4>Sci Fi?
<v Speaker 7>We've got Sphear Jumper, all the Star Wars prequels, The
<v Speaker 7>d Loves so Much. You want horror movies, We've got
<v Speaker 7>The Exorcist Part three.
<v Speaker 4>We've got fourteen and oh eight.
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if you could count Deep Blue Sea
<v Speaker 7>thrillers We've got, of course, Jackie Brown, pulp fiction, See
<v Speaker 7>of Love. You know, crime movies, you got dru Romance,
<v Speaker 7>Good Fellas, Juice, Shaft comedies, I mean Coming to America,
<v Speaker 7>Loaded Weapon one drama.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you've got to do the right thing.
<v Speaker 7>One of the best movies of nineteen eighty nine, which
<v Speaker 7>I spiked the football on on our previous episode, Menace
<v Speaker 7>to Society, Time to Kill the John Grisham thriller so good.
<v Speaker 7>You want family movies, You've got The Incredibles, which I
<v Speaker 7>said was the best movie since the year two thousand.
<v Speaker 4>I love that movie. Adventure. We have snakes on a plane.
<v Speaker 4>We've got Jurassic Park.
<v Speaker 7>We've got I mean in the fantasy realm, you've got
<v Speaker 7>all the Marvel movies, the MCU, You've got the Kong
<v Speaker 7>you know, the Monster Universe there with the King Kong movies,
<v Speaker 7>Captain America, Iron Man, Avengers, Spider Man, and then of
<v Speaker 7>course you've got the Unbreakable movies. He's got it all covered,
<v Speaker 7>except maybe the musical or maybe a mystery.
<v Speaker 4>He's covered it all.
<v Speaker 7>Guys. I don't know how gonna how you guys going
<v Speaker 7>to do, but there you go.
<v Speaker 6>But quality is factoring into some of this, right, These
<v Speaker 6>are like not unnecessarily good movies.
<v Speaker 7>Well, we're talking genre diversity.
<v Speaker 3>We're not gonna hold up.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this category included.
<v Speaker 4>Both quality and diversity, not just diversities. So talk about
<v Speaker 4>the quality, my friend, where are we at with us?
<v Speaker 7>You want quality? Yeah, Jurassic Park, how's that? How about
<v Speaker 7>pulled fiction? How about Coming to Them? How about The
<v Speaker 7>Incredibles do the right Thing out of Sight? Those are
<v Speaker 7>all great movies.
<v Speaker 4>I noticed that you didn't say the Clone Wars or
<v Speaker 4>Snakes on a Plane when we got into quality. I
<v Speaker 4>wonder that happened.
<v Speaker 6>I just want to talk about what an MVP is exactly,
<v Speaker 6>somebody who performs consistently at a level of high excellence.
<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm let's talk Fred Willard here.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm gonna ask you to think about genre in
<v Speaker 5>a different way here. So let's let's just talk about Brett.
<v Speaker 5>We have credits going all the way back to the
<v Speaker 5>sixties up and through year of death, which is twenty two.
<v Speaker 5>So if we're going to really count that, that's going
<v Speaker 5>to be seven different decades. I'm not that concerned about
<v Speaker 5>genre as you talk about it. Between horror, family action,
<v Speaker 5>that's futile.
<v Speaker 2>I am on a desert island.
<v Speaker 5>The last thing I want to do is be reminded
<v Speaker 5>of horror, action adventure people in peril. I just want
<v Speaker 5>to smile, laugh, giggle, and have a little hope. Your
<v Speaker 5>diversities and genres you can keep them. I'm just not
<v Speaker 5>interested in playing that contest. We do win comedy outright,
<v Speaker 5>and what we have is subgenres within comedy, family friendly.
<v Speaker 5>We have Pixar with Wally. We have rock and roll,
<v Speaker 5>which might be music. Jason said, hey, lacked a musical,
<v Speaker 5>we have one in spinal Tap. Then we can take
<v Speaker 5>another musical and waiting for Gufman. We can take action
<v Speaker 5>adventure in Austin, Powers to the Spy Who Shagged Me?
<v Speaker 5>Traditional comedy. In American wedding, you can get action adventure, mystery,
<v Speaker 5>Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. We have media
<v Speaker 5>and journalism in the Anchorman.
<v Speaker 2>The journalism genre, the journalism genre.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so we really really dominate the subcategories. We're only
<v Speaker 5>concerned with the lighthearted and comedy, but we got it
<v Speaker 5>all underneath there.
<v Speaker 3>I'm at your debate.
<v Speaker 1>There was built upon extremely thin ice, but you, sir,
<v Speaker 1>are very light on your feet.
<v Speaker 3>So my compliments to you.
<v Speaker 7>He didn't even mention maybe the sweetest movie of the
<v Speaker 7>nineteen eighties Roxanne rox Anne.
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, it is there. He played the mayor in Roxanne.
<v Speaker 8>I would like to say that I would rather be
<v Speaker 8>with the people of this town then with the finest
<v Speaker 8>people in the world.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I thought Jason was going to drop a different nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighties film on us, but I will reserve that title
<v Speaker 1>because I want to see where Ahmed takes it. So,
<v Speaker 1>d let's discuss the quality and genre diversity of Gary Oben.
<v Speaker 4>So this category, we're talking about the quality of the movies,
<v Speaker 4>and that's a difficult thing. I mean, everything is subjective,
<v Speaker 4>but they do at least give us some ammunition. When
<v Speaker 4>we look at IMDb, and if you look at IMDb,
<v Speaker 4>Dary Oldman has forty five movies that rank seven point
<v Speaker 4>zero or higher. Those that rank lower than five, he
<v Speaker 4>only has eight. And I can't think that he's responsible
<v Speaker 4>for that on any of those eight movies out of
<v Speaker 4>his one hundred and six. Now, if you want to
<v Speaker 4>talk about his diversity, I think that he unquestionably wins
<v Speaker 4>this category. He's got family movies, he's got fantasy movies,
<v Speaker 4>he's got horror, he's got music, he's got thrillers. He's
<v Speaker 4>got fifteen talk show movies. He's got two musicals which
<v Speaker 4>beat Samuel Jackson. And he's even got a game show movie.
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk action adventure. You've got Dark Knight Trilogy. Let's
<v Speaker 4>talk fantasy. You've got the Harry Potter movies. Let's talk animation.
<v Speaker 4>He has got Kung Fu Panda, he has got quests
<v Speaker 4>for Camelot. He's even got in video games Call of Duty.
<v Speaker 4>He has had thirty eight comedy movies. I could not
<v Speaker 4>find where he was in any of them with Fred
<v Speaker 4>Willard don't.
<v Speaker 2>I can't think of it.
<v Speaker 4>He's got thirty eight comedy movies. And that is just
<v Speaker 4>naming a few of the multiple categories he's in. I
<v Speaker 4>didn't even bring up history, which he's been OSCAR nominated for.
<v Speaker 1>And one I will say, you know anyone that can
<v Speaker 1>play Sid Vicious, Dracula, Winston Churchill and a low life pimp, you.
<v Speaker 7>Have to see more?
<v Speaker 2>You got?
<v Speaker 7>You got everything here from a Jo Danano.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that that person exists.
<v Speaker 1>So Michael, let's talk about Bill Paxton and his genre
<v Speaker 1>diversity and the quality of roles he's had.
<v Speaker 6>Before I begin I think it's important to call out
<v Speaker 6>what we're actually doing.
<v Speaker 2>We are sitting on a desert island.
<v Speaker 6>I'm picturing something from like a far side cartoon where
<v Speaker 6>there's a little bit of sand, a palm tree, and
<v Speaker 6>a DVD player with a screen, and that's about it, right,
<v Speaker 6>And so what we want here is to kill time,
<v Speaker 6>and to me that speaks to rewatchability.
<v Speaker 2>It also means that.
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to be fatigued by seeing the same
<v Speaker 6>face over and over, even though obviously whatever catalog you
<v Speaker 6>choose here, we're going to be seeing this person again
<v Speaker 6>and again.
<v Speaker 2>But there's a question.
<v Speaker 6>About one whether or not they are dominating the screen,
<v Speaker 6>and whether or not you just get tired of seeing
<v Speaker 6>their face over and over. And there's a question about
<v Speaker 6>how many times can I just watch this movie just
<v Speaker 6>sometimes on in the background, Sometimes I'm locked in on it.
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes I'm just listening to the soundtrack. If that is
<v Speaker 6>the thought experiment we're having, I think Bill Paxton is
<v Speaker 6>a slam dunk. If Jason won the first category with
<v Speaker 6>the box office smash, Bill Paxton has it all. And
<v Speaker 6>not only does he have it all, he has excellence
<v Speaker 6>with it all. So if you want action and adventure,
<v Speaker 6>you've got Predator to Twister, Commando, Navy Seals. If you
<v Speaker 6>want science fiction, I mean Terminator and Aliens. If we're
<v Speaker 6>going after horror, there are a ton of cult classics.
<v Speaker 6>Near Dark, there's a Tales from the Crypt episode. If
<v Speaker 6>you're looking for a thriller, you have a simple plan.
<v Speaker 6>If you want romance, and let's not forget again, we're
<v Speaker 6>on a desert island staring at the ocean, you have Titanic.
<v Speaker 6>What more could you want than an island? If you're
<v Speaker 6>watching Titanic, If you want westerns, you've got Tombstone. If
<v Speaker 6>you want drama, you've got Apollo thirteen, Next of Ken.
<v Speaker 6>And if you're after comedy, weird science stripes and club
<v Speaker 6>dread sports, we have Million Dollar arm And for family friendly,
<v Speaker 6>there is Mighty Joe Young and maybe Big Love is
<v Speaker 6>family friendly. It's not family friendly, but it's at least
<v Speaker 6>family oriented. I could watch all of these movies over
<v Speaker 6>and over again. And sometimes Bill Paxton is front and
<v Speaker 6>center and he's munching up the screen and totally chewing
<v Speaker 6>it up. Other Times he's kind of hanging in the
<v Speaker 6>background and he's giving other people the stage and elevating
<v Speaker 6>the experience. If you are on a desert island killing time,
<v Speaker 6>waiting for the rescue, then what you really want is
<v Speaker 6>to escape.
<v Speaker 2>You want to be taken somewhere else.
<v Speaker 6>All of these movies transport you back in time, into
<v Speaker 6>outer space, way into outer space.
<v Speaker 2>Anywhere you want to go, you get to go with
<v Speaker 2>Bill Paxton.
<v Speaker 3>You know, you gave me a different way to look
<v Speaker 3>at this category.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, well, maybe I don't want to watch Bill Paxton,
<v Speaker 1>but I do want to see a great Arnold film,
<v Speaker 1>and maybe I want to watch Command, or maybe I
<v Speaker 1>just want to hear, you know, just some background music
<v Speaker 1>and a you know, I want to put Twister on
<v Speaker 1>because it's got a great soundtrack. So I'm looking at
<v Speaker 1>this category a little bit differently now, And uh, that's
<v Speaker 1>because of your argument for Bill Paxton.
<v Speaker 3>So thank you for that. You're welcome, gentlemen.
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to a category that I absolutely always
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of fun with. This category is called
<v Speaker 1>wild card. This is your opportunity to talk anything you
<v Speaker 1>want about your MVP candidate's background, filmography, whatever it could be.
<v Speaker 1>Anything goes here. Jason shaum Hout's done with mister Samuel L.
<v Speaker 1>Jackson for my wild card.
<v Speaker 7>I'm just going to pull out a few things that
<v Speaker 7>I think add a little bit to the name Samuel L.
<v Speaker 4>Jackson. Okay, now we know that he is one.
<v Speaker 7>Of the actors who is known for weaving the tapestry
<v Speaker 7>of obscenities throughout his movies.
<v Speaker 2>Right with these monif snakes on this monif why it
<v Speaker 2>looked like a couple of dorks.
<v Speaker 4>Ha your clothes, mother, How does it work? You know
<v Speaker 4>how to shoot a gun? Look, all brothers don't know
<v Speaker 4>how to shoot guns.
<v Speaker 2>You're racist, mother. It didn't work, but I.
<v Speaker 7>Was still alive, mondal But actually, come to find out,
<v Speaker 7>he is only sworn on screen three hundred and one times,
<v Speaker 7>which sounds like a lot, except that's only six point
<v Speaker 7>nine times for every thousand words. It surprised me to
<v Speaker 7>find out that both Jonahill and Leonardo DiCaprio rank much
<v Speaker 7>higher on the swear words than that. But he is
<v Speaker 7>the guy who made the big MF or bomb cool
<v Speaker 7>to say, right, and in fact, it is an anchor
<v Speaker 7>word for when he was a young man, he used
<v Speaker 7>swearing as a stop to his stutter. So when he
<v Speaker 7>was a young boy, he had a hard stutter. He
<v Speaker 7>actually had an aunt who lived in the house with him,
<v Speaker 7>who was a school teacher and actually in charge of
<v Speaker 7>the performing arts at her school, and so from a
<v Speaker 7>young age he would be pulled into these plays. You know,
<v Speaker 7>he's three, four or five years old, but that's okay,
<v Speaker 7>we need a little kid for our play. We had
<v Speaker 7>a bad stutter, and the way he combatd that was
<v Speaker 7>learned to swear, So I thought that was pretty interesting.
<v Speaker 7>The other thing I wanted to bring up that I
<v Speaker 7>had no idea about. He was a stand in for
<v Speaker 7>Bill Cosby on The Cosby Show. So he stood there
<v Speaker 7>in these colorful sweaters as like, you know the guy
<v Speaker 7>who you know you see Bill Cosby's back, but you
<v Speaker 7>know Bill Cosby is having a coke in the other room.
<v Speaker 4>So that was Samuel L. Jackson.
<v Speaker 7>But the main thing I wanted to bring up, though,
<v Speaker 7>is the franchises that this guy is associated with. Okay,
<v Speaker 7>I just don't know how any actor I've ever heard
<v Speaker 7>of could be involved in so many successful franchises. He
<v Speaker 7>is involved in the Star Wars Universe, the MCU, the Incredibles,
<v Speaker 7>the Triple X franchise, the Monster Verse. Shaft is now
<v Speaker 7>a franchise. He's involved in the Jurassic Park franchise, the
<v Speaker 7>Kingsman franchise. Unbreakable is now a franchise, the Redo of
<v Speaker 7>RoboCop and die Hard.
<v Speaker 4>That's pretty impressive.
<v Speaker 7>He's also the coolest guy in the Star Wars universe
<v Speaker 7>because he's the only dude who has a purple lightsaber.
<v Speaker 7>And on a personal level, this dude was an usher
<v Speaker 7>at Martin Luther King's funeral. The dude is the coolest
<v Speaker 7>guy in Hollywood. I'm spiking the football. The cool factor
<v Speaker 7>is off the chart.
<v Speaker 1>A wild card that promotes the use of profanity to
<v Speaker 1>cure speech impediments. Mother, I'm at let's discuss Fred Willard's
<v Speaker 1>wild card.
<v Speaker 5>All right, I'm gonna start with my favorite and the
<v Speaker 5>big one. He was and is the only human act
<v Speaker 5>to have appeared in a Pixar movie when he appeared
<v Speaker 5>in Wally in two thousand and seven.
<v Speaker 2>Whooh, that's right. In his obituary.
<v Speaker 5>You know, on our show we deconstruct the first line
<v Speaker 5>of an obituary and rank it. They use the word
<v Speaker 5>scene stealer in the first line of his obituary. So
<v Speaker 5>in these three hundred and seventeen credits, that we have
<v Speaker 5>this very large stacks of DVDs on our desert island.
<v Speaker 5>We know that we can wait for the Fred Willard
<v Speaker 5>moment in each movie and see the scene being stolen away.
<v Speaker 5>So there's a bit of a hunt and anticipation in
<v Speaker 5>each of these movies in the watching experience, and that
<v Speaker 5>in alone, I think is entertainment on top of entertainment. Secondly,
<v Speaker 5>the style of acting that Fred Willard really really made
<v Speaker 5>famous was this improvisational comedy that Christopher Guest is best
<v Speaker 5>known for in Fred Willard being his top lieutenant in it.
<v Speaker 5>So we saw that in Spinal Tap waiting for Guffman,
<v Speaker 5>Best in Show Mighty Wind Mascots that was actually a
<v Speaker 5>little known that tactic was used in Anchorman, and Fred Willard,
<v Speaker 5>playing the station manager in Anchorman was kind of a
<v Speaker 5>coach on set to everyone on how to just kind
<v Speaker 5>of go with the flow and improfit your comedic lines.
<v Speaker 5>And lastly, I think, compared to the other three candidates here,
<v Speaker 5>Fred Willard has an extensive catalog of TV appearances. So
<v Speaker 5>not only do we get these movies, but if we
<v Speaker 5>are sitting on our desert island, we will get not
<v Speaker 5>only the entirety of Everybody Loves Raymond, but also Modern Family,
<v Speaker 5>Bold and the Beautiful Huge Wildcard. He actually won a
<v Speaker 5>Daytime Emmy for it. You'll also get I Think You
<v Speaker 5>Should Leave. You'll get Drunk History. You'll get Saturday Night Live,
<v Speaker 5>which he hosted in nineteen seventy nine. You'll get Family Guy,
<v Speaker 5>You'll get Roseanne, you'll get the Simpsons, You'll get The
<v Speaker 5>Love Boat, Fame, Golden Girls. There's pretty much not a
<v Speaker 5>sitcom you can name around the eighties or nineties that
<v Speaker 5>he did not have an appearance in.
<v Speaker 7>He just laid down the Ace, the Love Boat series, Yes.
<v Speaker 2>And Thinking of the Ace.
<v Speaker 5>The Ace Trucking Company was Fred Willard's improv troop, which
<v Speaker 5>made over fifty appearances on The Tie show Not Right
<v Speaker 5>It impressively.
<v Speaker 1>De always holds his cards close to his chest. Do
<v Speaker 1>are you ready to play a wild card on behalf
<v Speaker 1>of Gary Olben?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Moderator, I believe this is where I pull ahead
<v Speaker 4>of the pack and leave everyone else behind. I could
<v Speaker 4>not have asked for a better setup than Mike gave
<v Speaker 4>in our last category. You didn't want a leading man
<v Speaker 4>as your actor because you'd get tired of seeing that
<v Speaker 4>same guy over and over. Again. Tom Hanks has a
<v Speaker 4>lot of great movies. He is a great actor. But
<v Speaker 4>if you've got the rest of your life with only
<v Speaker 4>watching Tom Hanks movies, you're going to get tired of him. Right,
<v Speaker 4>So I want you to think about something for just
<v Speaker 4>a second. Think about Fred Willard's voice. You got it.
<v Speaker 8>Let's start right out, Hey what happened? As you know
<v Speaker 8>back in nineteen sooner I start on a series called
<v Speaker 8>Hey what happened?
<v Speaker 4>Okay? Think about Samuel Jackson's voice. It probably is a profanity.
<v Speaker 2>Right well, I'm a mushroom cloud land mother.
<v Speaker 7>Every time my fingers touched brain, I'm super flatty and tea.
<v Speaker 4>Even Bill Paxton, whether he's an IRP brother or whether
<v Speaker 4>he's chet, think about his voice.
<v Speaker 9>Coconut, Pete Pia, the secret ingredient coconut.
<v Speaker 4>Now, think about Gary Oldman's voice. Because he knew deep done.
<v Speaker 2>It was your law.
<v Speaker 4>Can you even tell me what country he's from?
<v Speaker 2>A man could not live with himself and it would
<v Speaker 2>be such bit politics.
<v Speaker 4>Can you tell me where he was born?
<v Speaker 2>I was a Christian.
<v Speaker 4>Camp my father founded for poor, unfortunate cast off little
<v Speaker 4>boys and girls who would do it any thing for
<v Speaker 4>a candy Bar. No, you can't, because his voice is
<v Speaker 4>different in everything he's in. He is a leading man
<v Speaker 4>in several of these movies, but it doesn't matter because
<v Speaker 4>he's a different human being in every single one of
<v Speaker 4>these movies. His range is incomparable to anyone else. He
<v Speaker 4>is an outlier with his ability not to act, but
<v Speaker 4>to seemingly medium channel other human beings and become them.
<v Speaker 4>There's a meme out there that says, if suddenly you
<v Speaker 4>were walking along and somebody yelled cut, and all of
<v Speaker 4>a sudden you realize that you were actually Gary Oldman
<v Speaker 4>being played in a movie, you wouldn't be surprised. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>let me throw this out at you. Okay. He goes
<v Speaker 4>from playing a New York gangster to a Shakespearean comic knave,
<v Speaker 4>to Lee Harvey Oswald, to a Transylvanian count, to a dreadlocked,
<v Speaker 4>ubonic speaking pimp, to an American drug addled cop to
<v Speaker 4>a nineteenth century German composer, and that is only nineteen
<v Speaker 4>ninety to nineteen ninety four, all of them fantastic movies.
<v Speaker 4>He's played an ape, he's played a peacock. There is
<v Speaker 4>nothing that this man can't do. And so even though
<v Speaker 4>he might be a leading man sometimes and he might
<v Speaker 4>be a very simple bit part guy some of the
<v Speaker 4>time as well, he is always going to give you
<v Speaker 4>something fresh. There is nothing that is repetitive about him
<v Speaker 4>or his movies.
<v Speaker 1>Michael, that's gonna be a tough fact to follow. Are
<v Speaker 1>you ready to play the Bill Paxton wild card?
<v Speaker 6>I do think that there are some very compelling reasons
<v Speaker 6>to elevate Bill Paxson. First, I think a little trivia here,
<v Speaker 6>just because this communicates how fun he is.
<v Speaker 2>And I actually have Jason to thank for this little factoid.
<v Speaker 6>Bill Paxton is the only actor of all time who
<v Speaker 6>was killed by both a terminator, an alien and a predator.
<v Speaker 6>That tells you something about what he's up against. That
<v Speaker 6>he's willing to go to the far reaches of space
<v Speaker 6>and the most dangerous machines of all time, not to
<v Speaker 6>mention whatever.
<v Speaker 2>The other third thing is lust the thread.
<v Speaker 1>There Okay, the hottest day on record in Los Angeles.
<v Speaker 6>Thank you, thank you, thank you. Something else that should
<v Speaker 6>be brought up about Bill Paxton. This has very little
<v Speaker 6>to do with his movies, but it's important. He saw JFK.
<v Speaker 6>Not the movie, but the Man. On November twenty second,
<v Speaker 6>nineteen sixty three, as the motorcade was passing through Fort Worth.
<v Speaker 6>There is a picture of a young Bill Paxton up
<v Speaker 6>on his father's shoulders, looking at the President, hours.
<v Speaker 2>Before he was assassinated in Dallas.
<v Speaker 6>Anybody who intersects with history in that kind of way
<v Speaker 6>is walking around with the gift, is walking around with
<v Speaker 6>something special that he carries with him everywhere he goes,
<v Speaker 6>including onto movie sets. And that brings me to the
<v Speaker 6>last point. I want to make a wild card brought
<v Speaker 6>up the obituary a moment ago. There was a word
<v Speaker 6>used in Bill Paxton's obituary that I want to draw
<v Speaker 6>attention to, and that word was affable. You talk about
<v Speaker 6>Fred Willard on a desert island being somebody who brings
<v Speaker 6>joy and humored, that's great. I think affability is a
<v Speaker 6>more important quality. Affability relates to who you're hanging out
<v Speaker 6>with and how much you want to hang out with him. Yes,
<v Speaker 6>I am impressed by Gary Oldman. He brings an intensity
<v Speaker 6>to who he is and there is not a role
<v Speaker 6>he plays where he doesn't disappear into him. But I'm
<v Speaker 6>not on this desert island to celebrate one man. I'm
<v Speaker 6>on this desert island to celebrate a rich catalog, and
<v Speaker 6>sometimes that means that it's not just one person, but
<v Speaker 6>the entire cast and the entire experience of a movie.
<v Speaker 6>I need somebody who's here to bring every movie to
<v Speaker 6>a place of transportation and vicarious experience.
<v Speaker 2>So that's my wild College Mike.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, if there's one word that defines
<v Speaker 1>you in the wild card round, I would say passionate.
<v Speaker 1>That was a very well given speech there, guys. We've
<v Speaker 1>already name dropped several incredible titles that these actors are
<v Speaker 1>a part of.
<v Speaker 3>But this next.
<v Speaker 1>Category, here's where you need to come out swinging guns
<v Speaker 1>of blazon because we're going to do top five. Jason,
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear your top five performances for Samuel L.
<v Speaker 4>Jackson.
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if these are top five performances. I'm
<v Speaker 7>going to say these are his top five movies.
<v Speaker 4>Go in toe to toe with you, guys.
<v Speaker 7>So my first draft pick is going to be D's
<v Speaker 7>all time favorite movie from the nineties.
<v Speaker 4>That's pulp fiction. You know what they call a quarter
<v Speaker 4>poundal with cheese in France?
<v Speaker 2>No, right, yeah, with cheese. You know why they call
<v Speaker 2>it that?
<v Speaker 4>Because of the metric system. Check out the Big Brain
<v Speaker 4>on bread.
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna go with maybe the greatest family movie of
<v Speaker 7>the nineties, Jurassic Park. Kids absolutely love this movie.
<v Speaker 4>I loved it, everybody loved it. It's fantastic movie.
<v Speaker 7>Then I'm gonna pull out Avengers Endgame. You get anybody
<v Speaker 7>below the age of twenty, it's maybe the greatest movie
<v Speaker 7>they've ever seen. Then for me in the family genre again,
<v Speaker 7>the Incredibles. I think it's the best movie since the
<v Speaker 7>year two thousand. It's absolutely fantastic. And then lastly I'll
<v Speaker 7>throw out Do the Right Thing by Spike Lee, a
<v Speaker 7>great movie from nineteen eighty nine, showing his diversity. It's
<v Speaker 7>not all just laser beams and dinosaurs. He actually has enjoyable,
<v Speaker 7>you know, socially conscious movies as well. So that is
<v Speaker 7>my Samuel L. Jackson top five.
<v Speaker 3>Excellent, top five.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest, I've been looking for this category
<v Speaker 1>just so I could talk to ameit. You have, okay, omit,
<v Speaker 1>let's hear your choices for Fred Willard's top five.
<v Speaker 5>Number one best in show from the year two thousand.
<v Speaker 5>Fred Willard played one of the hosts of the Dog
<v Speaker 5>Show and absolutely stole the movie. The cast of that movie. Overall,
<v Speaker 5>it is incredibly rewatchable. Writing exactly on those coattails. But
<v Speaker 5>sixteen years prior, spinal Tap still watched regularly. I believe
<v Speaker 5>there is a sequel in the making. Yeah, correct, right now,
<v Speaker 5>So here we are, god what, forty years after the
<v Speaker 5>movie and still feels contemporary.
<v Speaker 2>Number three I referenced earlier.
<v Speaker 5>I will go with Wally given his significance in the
<v Speaker 5>role and with Pixar. That was also a movie that
<v Speaker 5>grossed five hundred and thirty million worldwide, So if we're
<v Speaker 5>looking at Fred Willard's two point three billion or you've
<v Speaker 5>almost got twenty percent of it right there. Number four,
<v Speaker 5>I will go Harold and Kumar go.
<v Speaker 2>To White Castle.
<v Speaker 5>And that is is a personal choice because that was
<v Speaker 5>one of the first movies with a cool Indian protagonist.
<v Speaker 2>So a big eyepie for my people.
<v Speaker 5>And number five I just don't think we can discount
<v Speaker 5>because it's arguably the biggest comedy of this millennium would
<v Speaker 5>be Anchorman, all right.
<v Speaker 4>I would throw in waiting for Gufman on my list.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know who I'd not. Waiting for Gufman is
<v Speaker 4>my favorite of all of Fred Willard's movies.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would not disagree with you had I. I
<v Speaker 5>was going for variety in my top five picks, and
<v Speaker 5>since I sled with best and Show, that's the only
<v Speaker 5>reason why I didn't bring in Waiting for Gutman. But
<v Speaker 5>I could have easily substituted it completely agreed.
<v Speaker 4>Brilliant in all respects.
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you don't realize this, but you're sitting in
<v Speaker 7>a podcast room with two of the biggest fans of
<v Speaker 7>a Fred Willard movie that there may not be anybody
<v Speaker 7>else in the entire country as big as fans as
<v Speaker 7>there are.
<v Speaker 2>Can I guess it?
<v Speaker 4>Sure?
<v Speaker 5>Moving violations? Yes, yes, I gotta say I was.
<v Speaker 1>I was conflicted here because I wanted so desperate to
<v Speaker 1>hear moving violations on your list. But with the choices
<v Speaker 1>that you made, where do you put moving violations among
<v Speaker 1>those films?
<v Speaker 8>So as for me, everyone calls me, Doc, stop by
<v Speaker 8>the clinic anytime.
<v Speaker 4>Excuse me.
<v Speaker 8>You have a clinic, not just a clinic. The clinic.
<v Speaker 8>We do the finest diagnostic check ups in town.
<v Speaker 4>Doc Williams at your service.
<v Speaker 3>D This couldn't be easy for you. For Gary Oldman,
<v Speaker 3>what are your top five choices.
<v Speaker 4>It's the understatement of the year to say that it
<v Speaker 4>was not easy to bring this down to only five.
<v Speaker 4>He's won an Academy Award. I didn't see that movie,
<v Speaker 4>so I didn't pick it. He's won a Golden Globe,
<v Speaker 4>but I didn't see that movie either, so I didn't
<v Speaker 4>pick that one. He's won three British Academy Film Awards,
<v Speaker 4>and he's been nominated for two other Oscars, and he's
<v Speaker 4>been nominated for an Emmy. But I didn't pick that
<v Speaker 4>one because it was just a couple of episodes of Friends.
<v Speaker 4>I picked the movies that I like. It's my personal
<v Speaker 4>top five. It probably will be different than anybody else's
<v Speaker 4>top five, but I'm gonna go Number five Leon the Professional,
<v Speaker 4>Number four Oppenheimer where he plays the President Truman. Number
<v Speaker 4>three True Romance, because it is the role I went.
<v Speaker 4>This is the same guy. I'm ste a mystery to you?
<v Speaker 4>Did I actual if you want some dinner and you're
<v Speaker 4>going to everyone started trying down in cinemaself this moment.
<v Speaker 7>He's caming on like you and got a carovin the
<v Speaker 7>Wold and who knows.
<v Speaker 4>Number two Immortal Beloved. Because I'm a huge classical music fan.
<v Speaker 4>I think it's one of the most underrated movies of
<v Speaker 4>the nineties. Great mystery, great music, and obviously great performance.
<v Speaker 4>Number one pick for the Gary Oldman movie. It was
<v Speaker 4>my number one pick for all of the movies of
<v Speaker 4>the twentieth century, and that's Dark Knight, No Dracula. It's
<v Speaker 4>it's fantastic. But I mean, dude, there's a million movies
<v Speaker 4>that he could that I could pick.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, a lot of Dracula talk on this podcast.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't expect that.
<v Speaker 1>Michael, let's talk about Bill Paxton's top five.
<v Speaker 2>All right, let me win this thing.
<v Speaker 6>So I think the thing that has to really be
<v Speaker 6>elevated again here and that has to be called out
<v Speaker 6>is the word rewatchability that's come up a few times.
<v Speaker 6>We are absolutely talking about some of my favorite performances
<v Speaker 6>with Gary Oldman and definitely some of the most funny
<v Speaker 6>movies in the Fred Willard catalog and everything that came
<v Speaker 6>up with Samuel L.
<v Speaker 2>Jackson is I think.
<v Speaker 6>Competes with rewatchability, but not quite this list. So number
<v Speaker 6>five I struggled here, but I wanted to get a
<v Speaker 6>little sentimental. I'm gonna put Titanic I'm ready to get sentimental.
<v Speaker 6>I'm ready to get weepy. And look, man, you put
<v Speaker 6>that movie on and the and the right moment, and
<v Speaker 6>I can get caught up in it. I've always had
<v Speaker 6>a thing for Kate Winslett. I think the set design
<v Speaker 6>is extraordinary. I feel like I'm back in the early
<v Speaker 6>twentieth century. And I guess, on the subject of rewatchability,
<v Speaker 6>one thing about Bill Paxton movies is you often know
<v Speaker 6>the outcome. We know the ship's gonna sink, yet we
<v Speaker 6>watch it anyway, and in fact, we rewatch it anyway.
<v Speaker 6>And that, I think, to me is what this Desert
<v Speaker 6>Island thought experiment is all about.
<v Speaker 4>Mike, you and Jason really need to hang out?
<v Speaker 2>We do, Yeah, what are we doing here?
<v Speaker 7>I love Titanic, man, I think is.
<v Speaker 2>The best movie of the ninety He is a great movie.
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, I'm a sucker for a certain kind of romance.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Number four, I'm going to go Apollo thirteen.
<v Speaker 6>I think that the Apollo thirteen captures the wonder of space.
<v Speaker 2>It's got a high drama.
<v Speaker 6>I think that there's a celebration of a moment in history,
<v Speaker 6>and I think, to just imagine yourself traveling literally around
<v Speaker 6>the dark side of the moon is the kind of
<v Speaker 6>thing that you can connect with if you're on a
<v Speaker 6>desert island, because you too feel alienated, you too feel
<v Speaker 6>like you're at the ends of the world. Number three,
<v Speaker 6>I need something that is both fun but also high stakes.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going Terminator the original.
<v Speaker 6>I think that the way it puts me back in
<v Speaker 6>nineteen eighty four, like those special effects, while sometimes feeling dated,
<v Speaker 6>actually have and electricity to them, and I think that's
<v Speaker 6>arguably Arnold's greatest role.
<v Speaker 2>Number two.
<v Speaker 6>I want to go back to the Old West with Tombstone,
<v Speaker 6>mostly because of the Val Kilmer doc holiday performance, but
<v Speaker 6>I want to be taken back to the Old West
<v Speaker 6>and a great shootout. And Number one for me is
<v Speaker 6>pretty obvious maybe but Aliens. I can watch Aliens over
<v Speaker 6>and over and over again. I think the set design
<v Speaker 6>of all these movies, and I keep coming back to
<v Speaker 6>this idea, take me somewhere else. I'm on a desert island.
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to be. I want to be anywhere else.
<v Speaker 6>The range of environments and settings that we get to
<v Speaker 6>go to with these five bill packs and movies are
<v Speaker 6>what I need on this Desert Island.
<v Speaker 1>I got to say, if physical media did not exist
<v Speaker 1>and cable providers provided the all aliens, all the time channel,
<v Speaker 1>I would subscribe.
<v Speaker 4>That's all I need, It's all I need, absolutely filled
<v Speaker 4>with Cameron love.
<v Speaker 3>Right, I love?
<v Speaker 4>I love James Cameron y.
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of love, let's talk about I don't.
<v Speaker 3>Call if it was Jim Caviezel or Willem Defoe who
<v Speaker 3>once said.
<v Speaker 4>Who has neverous sinned?
<v Speaker 1>Who whoever that is, come up here and tell these
<v Speaker 1>if we're casting stones for sins, we're all gonna be
<v Speaker 1>hurt real quick.
<v Speaker 3>But these guys have sinned before.
<v Speaker 1>So let's move to our next category, another hold over,
<v Speaker 1>another favorite one, cinematic sins. So, for those of you
<v Speaker 1>that are unaware what the cinematic sins category is all about,
<v Speaker 1>this is the opportunity for three others to gnash their
<v Speaker 1>teeth and call out the cinematic sins of the fourth
<v Speaker 1>pick for MVP. So Jason prepared to get stoned because
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk to these guys about Samuel L.
<v Speaker 1>Jackson's cinematic sins. I'm at cast the first stone, Sir Alan.
<v Speaker 5>It's got to be snakes on a plane. I don't
<v Speaker 5>don't have to look.
<v Speaker 2>Up shooting from the hip. Yes, I saw the trailer.
<v Speaker 5>I didn't need to see the movie, right.
<v Speaker 2>I think America felt the same.
<v Speaker 7>Yes, I have no defense on that one. I can't
<v Speaker 7>say anything. I cannot defend that one.
<v Speaker 3>Cannot defend that one. D take your best shot.
<v Speaker 4>I make a concerted effort not to watch bad movies,
<v Speaker 4>and so this was the hardest category for me. Like I,
<v Speaker 4>if I've seen a movie that you guys in, I
<v Speaker 4>probably liked it. But I did see the Clone Wars.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, are you fantom menacing.
<v Speaker 4>Me right now? The phantomism? Those are three of those
<v Speaker 4>movies are menacing. I also haven't seen the Marvels, and
<v Speaker 4>I never planned to, but it would be number three
<v Speaker 4>on my list.
<v Speaker 7>I'm getting like a quadruper shot.
<v Speaker 3>I have seen it.
<v Speaker 4>I won't call it that one. My pick is Clone
<v Speaker 4>Wars because I've seen it and I will never watch
<v Speaker 4>it again.
<v Speaker 7>Remember, Oben one, if the prophecy is true, your apprentice
<v Speaker 7>is the only one who can bring the force back
<v Speaker 7>into balance.
<v Speaker 3>How about it, Michael?
<v Speaker 2>The problem with Samuel L.
<v Speaker 6>Jackson on a desert island is decision fatigue. Yes, there
<v Speaker 6>are some in here we can pluck out true romance
<v Speaker 6>or pulp fiction.
<v Speaker 2>But my god, do you have to sort through an unbelievable.
<v Speaker 6>Amount of craft before you get to anything good. So
<v Speaker 6>maybe that is my dick. I'll go Farce of the Penguins.
<v Speaker 6>I never saw it. I assume they're making fun of
<v Speaker 6>March of the Penguins, and Samuel L. Jackson was the narrator,
<v Speaker 6>so that is the stone I shall casp.
<v Speaker 1>Sir Jason, any last comment about defending Samuel Jackson's cinematic sins.
<v Speaker 7>I can't really defend myself on any of those, but
<v Speaker 7>I will say that this summer we're going to take
<v Speaker 7>a deep dive on our What the Heck Happens series,
<v Speaker 7>where we're going to break down and discuss the Phantom
<v Speaker 7>Menace versus Star Trek the motion picture, and ask the question,
<v Speaker 7>what the heck happened?
<v Speaker 4>Otherwise I have no defense.
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, Jason rests, it's amets turn. Let's talk
<v Speaker 1>Fred Willard's cinematic sins.
<v Speaker 4>One of the nice things that I figured out from
<v Speaker 4>doing this episode is that on the IMDb app can
<v Speaker 4>actually sort all of the movies of a particular performer
<v Speaker 4>by IMDb ranking, And here's what I figured out about
<v Speaker 4>Fred Willard. When someone says do you want to be
<v Speaker 4>in a movie? He does not say no, Yeah, that
<v Speaker 4>was him.
<v Speaker 2>He was a yes guy.
<v Speaker 4>So on his IMDb credits list, he has a movie
<v Speaker 4>that ranks less than a two point zero. But I'm
<v Speaker 4>not picking that movie because just a couple above that
<v Speaker 4>one is the movie Christmas Vacation to Cousin Eddie's Island.
<v Speaker 4>Not only is it a horrible movie, but it's an
<v Speaker 4>affront to the whole series. And so for that reason,
<v Speaker 4>it has to be Fred Willard's biggest cinematic sin.
<v Speaker 1>I meant anything to say, I mean, I'm glad Eddie
<v Speaker 1>got an island to be well in that case, Michael,
<v Speaker 1>what is your choice for Fred Willard's cinematic sin.
<v Speaker 6>I'm running into the same damn problem. The fact that
<v Speaker 6>he basically said yes is nice. You need the job,
<v Speaker 6>you got to take the work, but have some I
<v Speaker 6>don't know, sense of taste and some dignity. Sometimes it's
<v Speaker 6>really okay to say that's not for me. I'll go
<v Speaker 6>ahead and choose Reanimated, which is a TV movie from
<v Speaker 6>two thousand and six that got a star of two
<v Speaker 6>point eight.
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of it before.
<v Speaker 6>I've hut it up, but it's representative of the overall
<v Speaker 6>decision process for Fred Willard.
<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid ouch, I'm at silent. I guess we move
<v Speaker 1>on to Jason to continue the pylon here.
<v Speaker 7>I'm just going to jump on Michael's cattails here and
<v Speaker 7>just say yes, he's got a great voice and so
<v Speaker 7>working as a voice actor, you get drug in some
<v Speaker 7>bad projects.
<v Speaker 4>But for me, I mean, I don't even have to
<v Speaker 4>watch this movie, The Pooch and the Popper.
<v Speaker 7>I feel as a father, that's one that I would
<v Speaker 7>have been in the movie theater with my kids, going
<v Speaker 7>what is this crappy movie that I'm watching?
<v Speaker 1>So mark me down The Pooch and the Popper? Okay,
<v Speaker 1>can you say in defense of The Pooch and the Popper?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, great title. I'm a little intrigued. Actually, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it could be good.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I didn't have plans tomorrow night until now.
<v Speaker 1>Now, d I'm curious, and we won't hold this against Fred.
<v Speaker 1>The title that you were going to suggest, was it named.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's called Schoolgirls spelled with a Y.
<v Speaker 2>Where would you put a y oy?
<v Speaker 4>One eight one point eight? When I did the sorting
<v Speaker 4>by rank. It was impressive. How many movies in the
<v Speaker 4>two point something categoric. I don't know how many bad
<v Speaker 4>movies you can make, but this is his amount is impressive.
<v Speaker 5>That speaks to accessibility alignment with the proletariat. I feel
<v Speaker 5>like there's.
<v Speaker 4>A Tom Arnold and if Fred Willard was still alive,
<v Speaker 4>got together and made a movie, it might rank in
<v Speaker 4>the negatives somehow.
<v Speaker 1>Well, Michael, let's uh, there's still more sin to discuss.
<v Speaker 1>D and his choice, Gary Oldman are on the stand,
<v Speaker 1>so let's talk Gary Oldman's cinematic sins.
<v Speaker 3>Michael.
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to take a slightly different angle on this
<v Speaker 6>because Gary Oldman is excellent in everything he's on. So
<v Speaker 6>I am not about to criticize the man's decisions in
<v Speaker 6>terms of role. What I am going to criticize here
<v Speaker 6>is his decision in terms of impact. And here I
<v Speaker 6>am going to attack the film JFK. Somehow this keeps
<v Speaker 6>coming up.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 6>I am entertained by JFK. I've watched it several times.
<v Speaker 6>I think it is a well crafted movie. I think
<v Speaker 6>it is extremely well cast. I also think it has
<v Speaker 6>forever altered our opinion of what happened on that fateful day.
<v Speaker 6>I do not claim to know. I am interested in
<v Speaker 6>the conspiracy theories. I am also interested in the mainstream message.
<v Speaker 6>But I also believe that a large chunk of not
<v Speaker 6>just America, but the world now believes a certain story
<v Speaker 6>because Gary Oldman was so good in that movie in
<v Speaker 6>a way that is a cinematic sen that it is
<v Speaker 6>presented as truth and as the final say. I have
<v Speaker 6>some reservations around that, and I'm gonna call that a
<v Speaker 6>sen I go with that.
<v Speaker 1>You know, in the future, people are gonna look at
<v Speaker 1>me and say, you hosted a podcast that said negative
<v Speaker 1>things about JFK, and I will be forced to say,
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a Patsyne. Oh wow.
<v Speaker 6>All I mean to say is that there is such
<v Speaker 6>a thing as too convincing.
<v Speaker 2>Of a role. I'll leave it at that.
<v Speaker 3>Jason, Let's talk Sin and Gary Oldman.
<v Speaker 7>Okay, So I'm gonna throw out the stupid IMDb rankings.
<v Speaker 7>I could care less about what other people think. I
<v Speaker 7>just know what I think, right. I am an expert
<v Speaker 7>on my own opinion. And when I went to the
<v Speaker 7>movie theater in nineteen ninety eight, when I watched The
<v Speaker 7>Fifth Element, I thought This movie might be the worst
<v Speaker 7>piece of crap I've ever seen on screen. It is
<v Speaker 7>unbearable to me between Bruce Willows was uncool, and you
<v Speaker 7>had Gary Oldman dressed up like dead or alive from
<v Speaker 7>you know, you spin me right around like a record.
<v Speaker 7>I can't take this movie. I can't do it. I
<v Speaker 7>know other people like it. I think it's a giant
<v Speaker 7>pile of heaping crape.
<v Speaker 4>Who you are, you worried, should be prayed.
<v Speaker 3>So a lot of the federal governman scattered your people.
<v Speaker 4>To Queen, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Your
<v Speaker 4>time for revenge is out hand, and.
<v Speaker 1>I guess as moderator, I shouldn't say anything, So I'll
<v Speaker 1>go to Amet and ask him. I'm at your thoughts
<v Speaker 1>on Gary Oldman's cinematic sins.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm leaving myself a little vulnerable here because I'm
<v Speaker 5>gonna point out one of Matthew McConaughey's bigger cinematic sins.
<v Speaker 5>And should you want to throw that back at me,
<v Speaker 5>you could also point out that Matthew McConaughey started in
<v Speaker 5>The Wedding Planner, which also featured Fred Willard. However, Fred
<v Speaker 5>Willer did not accept to play a role in the
<v Speaker 5>movie Tiptoes from two thousand and two. Gary Olman did
<v Speaker 5>enough to be one of the leading characters. And what
<v Speaker 5>is Tiptoes about, you ask, Let's just take a little look.
<v Speaker 5>Let's google Tiptoes. The film's plot revolves an average size man,
<v Speaker 5>Matthew McConaughey, who struggles with revealing to his pregnant fiance,
<v Speaker 5>Kate Beckhamsale that his entire family are little people as
<v Speaker 5>he worries that their unborn child may be born with
<v Speaker 5>dwarf ism.
<v Speaker 2>Wow.
<v Speaker 7>Interesting, Gary Oldman's in that.
<v Speaker 2>Gary Oldman is in there. He signed off.
<v Speaker 5>He is one of the top three actors on it.
<v Speaker 5>In fact, he plays Rolf.
<v Speaker 4>He plays a dwarf.
<v Speaker 2>No, he plays Rolf.
<v Speaker 7>Okay, Peter Dinklice is in it.
<v Speaker 5>Though, and I'm assuming he plays one of Matthew McConaughey's
<v Speaker 5>family members.
<v Speaker 4>Just to be clear, he does play a dwarf.
<v Speaker 5>WHOA Yes, Wow Oldman does. Yes, there's one small problem.
<v Speaker 7>I'm wrong, I'm your brother.
<v Speaker 2>Were twins are your pants?
<v Speaker 4>Wow? In my research today, I came across this movie
<v Speaker 4>and I was just like, Yeah, this one looks like
<v Speaker 4>it has so much promise and yet but I mean
<v Speaker 4>it's it's I don't think it's I mean they've got
<v Speaker 4>multiple little people actors in it.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, then why do they need Oldman?
<v Speaker 3>Right exactly?
<v Speaker 7>Well, I think, yeah, that's making more grandiose.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So to clarify, we're not talking about Tim Conway's stores.
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about Gary Oldman's roof.
<v Speaker 5>So Gary munder played confusion there.
<v Speaker 3>Uh, what do you have to say to defend Gary
<v Speaker 3>Oldman's cinematic sins?
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I have to take something back because earlier
<v Speaker 4>I said that the wild card category would be the
<v Speaker 4>category that I pulled a head not to be left behind.
<v Speaker 4>But apparently it's this category. I'm gonna just take them
<v Speaker 4>in reverse. Okay, tiptoes if that's a cinematic sin. Also
<v Speaker 4>committing that sin, as he mentioned, is Matthew McConaughey. Also
<v Speaker 4>Kate Beckhamsale, Peter Dinklice, Patricia Arquette, David Allen Greer. Everything
<v Speaker 4>I read about it said it had so much promise
<v Speaker 4>for the first half, and in the last half it
<v Speaker 4>became a TV Movie of the Week kind of thing.
<v Speaker 4>I actually want to see this movie, despite the fact
<v Speaker 4>that it does have a dismal four point two rating
<v Speaker 4>on the other two movies. Fifth Element one of the
<v Speaker 4>best regarded sci fi movies of the nineties. I will
<v Speaker 4>accept that as a sin if you will. And then
<v Speaker 4>JFK eight point oh, eight point oh. Are we playing
<v Speaker 4>the IMDb MVP or what if you go to IMDb?
<v Speaker 4>It's just telling you guys that you're all crazy.
<v Speaker 2>I'll save my rebus.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely well, Michael, you're going to have to say here
<v Speaker 1>because we're about to discuss the cinematic sins of Bill Paxson,
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to begin with Jason.
<v Speaker 7>I love Bill Paxson. I can't deny it. I'm a
<v Speaker 7>big Cameron guy. In fact, I listened to a two
<v Speaker 7>hour interview with him today on the way over, and
<v Speaker 7>I presently like him even more than I did two
<v Speaker 7>hours prior to that great actor, fun guy down to earth.
<v Speaker 7>But I know that I watched a movie in college
<v Speaker 7>in nineteen ninety three called Monolith, and it's like X
<v Speaker 7>Files cops chasing Aliens, and I was very hopeful because obviously,
<v Speaker 7>if there's a guy who knows about aliens, it's Bill Paxson.
<v Speaker 7>But this was a piece of crap.
<v Speaker 2>Who the hell are you that information is classified?
<v Speaker 7>On this epicide? Where are you taking that girl?
<v Speaker 9>It's also classified? Can't you play any other tune? Let
<v Speaker 9>me lay some reality on you, Detective Tucker. If you
<v Speaker 9>obstruct me, you are obstructing the United States government.
<v Speaker 3>Ahmet. Your thoughts on Bill Paxton's cinematic sins.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I feel a little bad about this one
<v Speaker 5>because I think it was one of his last films
<v Speaker 5>and was released posthumously. The Circle, which is an adaptation
<v Speaker 5>of Dave Egger's book of the same name. Horrible adaptation
<v Speaker 5>of that so particularly bothered me because I liked the
<v Speaker 5>book so much, and to see Bill Paxson play May's
<v Speaker 5>father made a leading character in it in just this
<v Speaker 5>horribly conceived adaptation.
<v Speaker 4>Was a punch in the gun.
<v Speaker 3>This was the one with Tom Hanks.
<v Speaker 5>Tom Hanks is notorious for accepting terrible roles in movie
<v Speaker 5>adaptations of Dave Eggers books.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have no rebuttal d your conversation about Bill
<v Speaker 1>Paxton's cinematic sins.
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't like watching bad movies. I avoid it
<v Speaker 4>at all costs, but I also have five kids, and
<v Speaker 4>so sometimes it's unavoidable. And among the movies that I've
<v Speaker 4>had to watch because I have children are the Spy
<v Speaker 4>Kids movies and he was in not one, but two
<v Speaker 4>Spy Kids movies that'd be Spy Kids two and Spy
<v Speaker 4>Kids three as Dinky Winks. I don't know how you
<v Speaker 4>get offered the part of Dinky Winks and say yes
<v Speaker 4>unless Robert Roriguez has agreed to put you in his
<v Speaker 4>next vampire or grindhouse movie. I don't. I just don't
<v Speaker 4>get it.
<v Speaker 6>Well, hy there, little nis versus lady, I'm Vicky Winks,
<v Speaker 6>owner of this fine establishment.
<v Speaker 2>Are you ready to ride the ride and shrield to
<v Speaker 2>the thrill, spills and chills?
<v Speaker 5>Yes?
<v Speaker 2>I am rap this.
<v Speaker 4>There, you go, take your pick. They're basically the same.
<v Speaker 3>I have nothing to say to Dicky Weeks.
<v Speaker 1>So what do you have to say as far as
<v Speaker 1>defending Bill Paxton's cinematic sins.
<v Speaker 2>Well, now that.
<v Speaker 6>We've gone through all of us, who among us has
<v Speaker 6>not said here? I think what I would have to say.
<v Speaker 6>IMBB can have their own stars, their own rakings. This
<v Speaker 6>is not a conversation about what the critics say. This
<v Speaker 6>is a conversation about what we want and what's best
<v Speaker 6>for us as we wade out the long hours and
<v Speaker 6>days on this desert island.
<v Speaker 2>So that's thought one. Thought two.
<v Speaker 6>I think I already said who among us is not sent?
<v Speaker 6>And thought three, and this is probably the most important look.
<v Speaker 6>You're not going to have great movies if you don't
<v Speaker 6>take big risks. I think that's what we want from
<v Speaker 6>our actors. I think we want them to say, you
<v Speaker 6>know what, I am going.
<v Speaker 9>To go for it.
<v Speaker 2>Hold my beer while I make this movie.
<v Speaker 6>And yes, sometimes that's going to result in the occasional
<v Speaker 6>Spy Kids too, And maybe you ask somebody to do
<v Speaker 6>it again and Spy Kids three comes around, or maybe
<v Speaker 6>you say, you know what monolist sounds about. Right, I've
<v Speaker 6>had a good streak with these science fiction horror thriller movies.
<v Speaker 2>What could go wrong?
<v Speaker 6>And unfortunately everything goes wrong. But when you go for
<v Speaker 6>it the way Bill Paxton went for it, you also
<v Speaker 6>get The Terminator and Aliens and Twister and on Tombstone
<v Speaker 6>and Big Love and you name it. So I'll take
<v Speaker 6>the good with the bad here, and I think on balance,
<v Speaker 6>these were calculated risks that pay off. No one is
<v Speaker 6>a saint here, but the sum total of virtue far
<v Speaker 6>outweighs the sin.
<v Speaker 3>Well, I am nearing my final judgment.
<v Speaker 1>But before I offer that, should we offer you guys
<v Speaker 1>a short summation, just to say one last thing about
<v Speaker 1>your candidate for IMDb MVP.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll start. You want me to start?
<v Speaker 7>Twenty eight billion dollars and eleven successful franchises. That is
<v Speaker 7>a catalog to take to a desert island. That right there,
<v Speaker 7>I'm it.
<v Speaker 5>Three hundred and seventeen credits, both movie and television. You
<v Speaker 5>don't know when that rescue boat is coming, so you
<v Speaker 5>better have a lot to watch.
<v Speaker 4>D I feel like my competitors are just drawing at
<v Speaker 4>Straw's right now. I'm just going to give you a
<v Speaker 4>few facts that I didn't have another place to put
<v Speaker 4>it in. Fact number one, before he became a working actor,
<v Speaker 4>he sold shoes and he beheaded pigs in a slaughterhouse.
<v Speaker 4>Fact number two. When he became an established actor, he
<v Speaker 4>was the first one they offered the part of Edward
<v Speaker 4>Scissorhands too, and he turned it down.
<v Speaker 5>Because he might have had a pig with those sisserhands.
<v Speaker 4>And then fact number three, and I know you guys
<v Speaker 4>have been waiting the whole show. I sent you a
<v Speaker 4>picture earlier today Zuma Thurman nineteen ninety one. He was
<v Speaker 4>married to her from nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety two.
<v Speaker 4>What the only And it just threw to throw it
<v Speaker 4>back to the different types of movie. I mentioned all
<v Speaker 4>of the you know, kids movies that you could watch
<v Speaker 4>with Gary Oldman. He had one in seventeen movie it's
<v Speaker 4>called Wow Henry in June, and I remember that Uma
<v Speaker 4>was in that one with him. I think that's where
<v Speaker 4>they hooked up. If you will okay that picture. If
<v Speaker 4>that picture doesn't give me some kind of extra credit
<v Speaker 4>that I don't really need, I don't know what does
<v Speaker 4>I do like Uma?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? All right, Michael, Yeah, I don't know how to
<v Speaker 2>respond to that. I don't know how it has anything
<v Speaker 2>to do with what we were talking about. But my thoughts,
<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty simple. Who I want to hang
<v Speaker 2>out with.
<v Speaker 6>As I'm waiting for that ship to arrive, I'm asking
<v Speaker 6>myself what do I want from a movie? And what
<v Speaker 6>I want from a movie is to get lost in it.
<v Speaker 6>I want to be taken somewhere else. I want to
<v Speaker 6>consider fantastic stories with epic stakes. I want to consider
<v Speaker 6>the impossible, and I want the impossible to be made believable.
<v Speaker 6>Nobody was in the range of movies that accomplished that
<v Speaker 6>central goal across genres and across budgets. I think how
<v Speaker 6>much money it made and what the critics had to
<v Speaker 6>say has nothing to do. This is about our relationship
<v Speaker 6>to film, and on that score, I cannot think of
<v Speaker 6>a better candidate than the late great Bill Paxton.
<v Speaker 1>Very well, listeners, we have been discussing the box office roles,
<v Speaker 1>genre diversity, and films both bad and cinematically sinful of
<v Speaker 1>Bill Paxton, Gary Oldman, Samuel L.
<v Speaker 3>Jackson, and Fred Willard.
<v Speaker 1>As far as I'm concerned, this was not an easy decision,
<v Speaker 1>and it was a very tight race. I commend all
<v Speaker 1>four of you. But should I find myself a castaway
<v Speaker 1>with a treasure trove of one actor's films, I'm going
<v Speaker 1>to have to say the name is Gary Oldman. I'm
<v Speaker 1>looking at my score, I'm hearing these passionate please and ultimately,
<v Speaker 1>d I think you did a great job convincing me
<v Speaker 1>that Gary Oldman was the choice, because well, I won't
<v Speaker 1>tell you who I had tipped before this even started.
<v Speaker 3>Gary Oldman was not who I expected I would come
<v Speaker 3>to in the end. So well, done, sir.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.
<v Speaker 2>It's a worthy foe. I see this argument.
<v Speaker 1>Well, gentlemen, I can't thank you enough for allowing me
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to moderate this amazing episode. Absolutely love both
<v Speaker 1>your shows. I'm at Michael. Can you tell us a
<v Speaker 1>little bit about what's coming up this season? On Famous
<v Speaker 1>and Gravy?
<v Speaker 5>We select who we're going to talk about not too
<v Speaker 5>far in advance, and we bring a lot of real
<v Speaker 5>time to the table. There are some things I don't
<v Speaker 5>know if you want to preview them, Michael, Well, I don't.
<v Speaker 6>Know without having prepared a quiz for the opening quiz.
<v Speaker 2>How about this?
<v Speaker 6>How about I call you early next week and you
<v Speaker 6>can take the opening quiz for the next Famous and
<v Speaker 6>Gravy episode.
<v Speaker 3>I'll be happy, I'd be honored.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do it all right?
<v Speaker 6>All right, we like to not review until we get
<v Speaker 6>to the episode. Although now that we're putting the artwork out,
<v Speaker 6>it's not really working. But anyway, we'd like to try
<v Speaker 6>and keep it a mystery.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, our devoted listeners like to not know until the
<v Speaker 5>day of release.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Jason Dee, what can we expect this season on
<v Speaker 1>the Shirley You can't be serious?
<v Speaker 7>Podcast man, we are covering a whole slew of awesome
<v Speaker 7>stuff from nineteen eighty four nineteen eighty nine. We're doing
<v Speaker 7>a little bit from nineteen seventy nine, so we're comparing
<v Speaker 7>The Car's Heartbeat City versus Brian adams Reckless album from
<v Speaker 7>nineteen eighty four. We're gonna do Pink Floyd's The Wall
<v Speaker 7>versus Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon head to
<v Speaker 7>head comparison there. We're even doing like great sequels from
<v Speaker 7>nineteen eighty nine. We're doing Lethal Weapon two versus Indiana
<v Speaker 7>Jones three.
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be a lot of.
<v Speaker 3>Fun, gentlemen.
<v Speaker 1>I'm absolutely excited about the upcoming seasons that we're getting
<v Speaker 1>to both these podcasts, and I can't wait to hear
<v Speaker 1>what you guys have for us.
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be great.
<v Speaker 4>Jeff, what do you got coming up?
<v Speaker 3>Well, i'll tell you.
<v Speaker 1>Aside from doing we typically do, which is talk about
<v Speaker 1>directors in their underrated hits, I mentioned those limited series
<v Speaker 1>that we've had a lot of fun with in the past.
<v Speaker 1>We have a couple that are poised to start here
<v Speaker 1>very soon. We will be bringing back a film at
<v Speaker 1>forty five series for one more year where we'll celebrate
<v Speaker 1>the forty fifth anniversary of some of nineteen seventy nine's
<v Speaker 1>iconic films. We will also be doing our new limited
<v Speaker 1>series nineteen ninety six. So we had a blast talking
<v Speaker 1>about movies from nineteen eighty six. We kind of dumped
<v Speaker 1>back ten years and did nineteen seventy six last season,
<v Speaker 1>and this season we're jumping forward. We're gonna finish this trilogy,
<v Speaker 1>if you will. We're gonna be talking about films of
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six, and we've got a lot of great,
<v Speaker 1>great people lined up.
<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna have some fun, awesome, very cool.
<v Speaker 2>Jeff, thanks for moderating this, and d congratulations.
<v Speaker 3>You guys did a great job. I had a blast,
<v Speaker 3>so thanks, thank for having me.
<v Speaker 1>The question is did we get it right? Is Gary
<v Speaker 1>Oldman the IMDb MVP? Or did you have another choice
<v Speaker 1>in mind? Did you have someone in mind that maybe
<v Speaker 1>we didn't even discuss. Please let us know.
<v Speaker 4>Reach out.
<v Speaker 1>You can find the social media channels and websites for
<v Speaker 1>Famous and Gravy, the Sureley you Can't Be Serious podcast,
<v Speaker 1>and a fum By podcast in the show notes. We
<v Speaker 1>would love to hear from you and find out what
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts were,