Episode 100 - The Haunted History of The Algonquin Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to the 100th episode of the lunatics radio hour podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Abby Brinker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting here with Alan Kuan.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we are recording in the historic Algonquin hotel in the middle of Midtown Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's haunted,

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<v Speaker 1>It's haunted.

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<v Speaker 1>It's historic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually the oldest operational hotel in New York city.

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<v Speaker 2>How about the,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we've been going back and forth about a few different ideas we had for how to celebrate the 100th episode of Lunix radio hour, because it's such a big milestone.

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<v Speaker 1>And we thought how better than to combine the history side of this podcast with the paranormal side and visit a haunted hotel and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So what has happened so far

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<v Speaker 1>So far?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rainy day.

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<v Speaker 1>We arrived late afternoon, early evening,

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<v Speaker 2>Very cryptic, bellhop,

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<v Speaker 1>Cryptic bellhop.

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree there is a previous episode of Lunix radio hour where we do stay in another haunted hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't the most haunted well,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the distinction.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, the Bowery, which is the hotel we stayed at last time was actually quite recent.

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<v Speaker 1>It was built in the two thousands and it was haunted supposedly because of its proximity to graveyards.

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<v Speaker 1>This hotel, the Algonquin feels very different because it is so old itself, the building, and you can certainly feel that.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course there's parts of it that are renovated, but I think there is an energy to it because it is such an old and historic building.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, also this hotel was our number one spot originally, right?

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<v Speaker 2>But it has been closed for the last 19 months due to the hauntings

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<v Speaker 1>Due to COVID concerns and renovations and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it, and opened up again in November borough of 2021.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were very excited to be able to come here finally, and, and to experience, you know, whatever the ghost seven store for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So there, one thing about this is that the history of this hotel is fascinating to me, especially because highs really well to the hauntings, but also because if you are into literature or theater or film, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>Will.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>You will be specifically interested in the history of this hotel because it is very, very seeped in the arts.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I do wanna spend some time talking about it before we talk about the, you know, the sightings and the hauntings and things, because it's fascinating to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well,

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<v Speaker 2>First off I keep saying how this is such an old hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How old is it?

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<v Speaker 1>So it originally opened in 1902, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's over a hundred years old, 120 years old,

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<v Speaker 2>Two years before my great-grandmother came through Ellis island.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if she stayed here?

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I, I guess it was here when she was here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I, I have no formation if she spent any time in New York city, outside of like immigration, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of my ancestors who immigrated here did stay in New York city for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And then eventually, obviously, uh, in the suburbs and things, but a lot of my familial history, New York city, but I will say none of it is at the, uh, very ritzy, Algonquin hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime you have a business that has like survived the test of time through, you know, hundred years plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're usually really, really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Very rarely.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless it is just like a store in the middle of nowhere, that's like really

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<v Speaker 3>Six.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like it's, it's usually because it catered to a certain echelon of society.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of demanded its permanence.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>There is certainly a elitism.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, even though a lot of the history of those, this hotel is about supporting like struggling artists or, you know, why don't we just get into the history because I think you're right on the nose

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<v Speaker 2>As usual, also just a quick side note, we are kind of keeping our voices down because we are recording this on location in an active hotel that is full of ghosts.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, we don't wanna upset the spirits nor the other guests.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And just another side note for you, history buffs, the first half of this episode is gonna be certainly geared towards you.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end, we are gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>To say, you,

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're gonna try to do some or neither of us are very seasoned paranormal invest, but we are gonna try to do a little poking at the paranormal and see what we find poking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Gentle prodding, not like guns blazing, just like a little,

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<v Speaker 2>I brought my proton pack.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the you brought.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's sources.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an N Y ghost.com article just titled the Algon hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a business insider article titled the Algonquin hotel, happy birthday to the literary landmark in Midtown Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an article from haunted rooms.com.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course we have the Algonquin website, which has a lot of really interesting history and Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have our first hand accounts that's of the paranormal on location.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming at you life,

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<v Speaker 1>As we've said, New York city's Algonquin hotel opened its stores in 1902.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a New York city designated landmark, which means that it's protected by the New York city landmarks preservation commission to set the scene here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's located just off of times square.

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<v Speaker 1>It has 181 rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's fairly large right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I think operating at half capacity and there's no, uh, bars or dining rooms or anything open because they're, they're kind of reopening after being closed for 19 months.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, quick side note as I went to go refill the ice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, the front desk told me that during these last 19 months, they have since redone everything in the hotel, accept the rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>So like the pictures that were showing of this hotel are the very, very recent renovations.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, and unfortunately they got rid of a lot of the classic look, you can definitely tell in like the architecture and the way that it's built.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm sure that this hotel needed some kind of facelift.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, because it looks, I dunno, pretty, pretty modern.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And exactly the lobby.

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<v Speaker 1>He definitely looks, I think a lot more modern than it would have before the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>And before these renovations, that being said, Alan great point, because we will, of course be uploading photos to Lunix project.com.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an article section where we post all kinds of articles and this will certainly be one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you follow us on YouTube or TikTok or Instagram, we will be uploading videos of our stay and what we, what we saw along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you wanna see the hotel through our eyes, uh, those platforms are a great way to get kind of a visual component to go with this audio adventure.

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<v Speaker 1>So the building itself was designed by architect Goldwin star at who is the main partner in a firm, also responsible for the New York city flagship stores of sex, fifth avenue, Lord and Taylor Bloomingdale's so on and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>He's the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The hotel was first actually intended to be an apartment hotel, which is when tenants sign up for a year long lease, I guess, similar to an apartment, but kind of with the amenities of a hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, sounds

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially, we should say this hotel is very close to the, or smack dab in the middle of the theater district.

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<v Speaker 1>So I imagine if you are an actor and a play or a director, it makes sense to want that sort of setup.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You go on contract, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>Six months or a year, six

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<v Speaker 2>Months or a year.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want the amenities of an apartment, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>But without all the commitment of like, do I have to get furniture?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like you have to really cook for yourself, but do you really need like a full on kitchen?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus if you're an actor you want kind of a doorman or somebody to help you with your costumes or steam things or whatever, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Actors are just so difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean they probably are in rehearsals a lot and pub

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<v Speaker 2>Divas.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the time though, only a few people had actually signed on to year.

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<v Speaker 1>So they pivoted and turned the Algonquin into a traditional hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this fact, which is that this hotel was the first major hotel in New York city to allow women to stay in the hotel alone, which I didn't even think about that being a thing until I read that

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me there's a hotel in New York that allows women to stay without men.

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<v Speaker 1>This one, I mean, I got this room, my name's on the, the one night lease.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't question me.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't ask who was my chaperone, notable female guests include guru Stein, Simone de Maya Angelou and commander Evangeline booth.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry, I'm not from familiar with commander Evangeline booth.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was actually many things.

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<v Speaker 1>One of which was the fourth general of the salvation army.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the first woman to hold the post.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's top brass of the salvation army.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a real army.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, there is.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a standing command tree.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just, this people are, who know more about this are gonna be screaming at me because I'm just reading this live on Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, it sounds like the, you know, the history of the salvation army is very rooted in Christianity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a religious organization, but also actually had ties, uh, to the British army.

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<v Speaker 1>It was founded out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she was in the army, but got kind of interested in doing relief, work for the salvation army, kind of like within, I think that again, correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like stationed, for example, like in San Francisco, after the earthquake, like the 1906 earthquake and things like that to help with the relief.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, this is super cursory research, but yeah, she seems like a really interesting person who did a lot of really great work to help people

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<v Speaker 2>Love salvation army facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll have to come back with a salvation army episode,

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<v Speaker 2>The horror of thrifting

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<v Speaker 1>It's.

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<v Speaker 1>So Frank Case, who's gonna be a really important person who's that

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<v Speaker 2>He

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<v Speaker 1>Took over ownership of the hotel in 1927 and started several meaningful traditions that still exist to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Most importantly, he changed the original name of the hotel from the Puritan to the Algonquin, want to honor the original people who lived in the area, which is a great move.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>When we stepped out to get dinner, I noticed the hotel next door, which is pretty much like touching this hotel is called Theo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it feels a little Blais to, you know, just have all these commercial entities named after the people that got kicked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, but fun fact, do you know why Broadway cuts through Manhattan and a big slope?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because it was originally a native American walking trail

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<v Speaker 2>Wreck.

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<v Speaker 2>Second fun fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The Algonquin is also the name of a restaurant up in Bolton landing, New York

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<v Speaker 1>Don't I know

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the very first place I ever worked.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was very confusing for me when I first started seeing the name of the hotel enlist because I wasn't familiar with the New York city hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>I was familiar with your story of your first job

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<v Speaker 2>As a bus boy,

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<v Speaker 1>As a bus boy, but you weren't very good at, from what I

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<v Speaker 2>Remember, no, I was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Another tradition that Frank Case started at the hotel, which is very, very famous and still practiced to this day is that the Algonquin has always had a hotel cat who has the run of the joint.

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<v Speaker 1>So case took in a stray in the thirties and named the stray rusty, and one of the famous guests that frequented the Algonquin.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually there's a, a suite named after him is John Barrymore.

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<v Speaker 1>John Barrymore is, was an American actor.

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<v Speaker 1>He lived from 1880 to 1942.

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<v Speaker 1>As you might have guessed, he was indeed related in, or is indeed related to drew Barry Moore and was famously in many Shakespeare plays, including Hamlet in 1922.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a very, very, very famous stage actor.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a good place to be then.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was kind of a key player at this hotel, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone who frequented it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he suggested that the name rusty wasn't quite right, and he wanted to name the cat Hamlet.

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<v Speaker 1>So as it stands now, all of the male cats there always there always, there's always a cat here.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So as soon passes, they replace it.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the male cats are named Hamlet and numbered.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're currently at Hamlet, the eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Who Alan and I met in the lobby today

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<v Speaker 2>That it was very

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<v Speaker 1>Cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cute pictures will be on online and all of the female cats are named Matilda.

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<v Speaker 2>So do they have, and

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<v Speaker 1>They rescue them the rescue cats.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like a pair of cats or they just grow?

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<v Speaker 1>No, always one.

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<v Speaker 1>I see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, and it's very cool because in the lobby, which looks like part of the renovation, there's these like huge, huge bookcases, which in the cat was kind of nestled under their reception desk.

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<v Speaker 1>And we went up and asked and like talked to them and they called the cat onto the counter.

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<v Speaker 1>So we could see him

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<v Speaker 2>Next to his little cat house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He had lots of little cat houses, lots of little nooks in this whole bookshelf, which is like this gorgeous kind of like coffee nook to sit in in the morning and read your paper.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is like filled with cat tunnels and stuff, but in a very, very, very like elegant and nice way where it doesn't look like a cat tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like a nice hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's rich people, cat toys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is really cool to have met the cat in that he was just waiting there for us at the hotel desk.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a little interesting quote here from Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 1>The last cap, a Matilda to gain notice, like kind of like the last famous cap was a rag doll that was named 2006 cat of the year at the west Chester New York cat show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You just answered my own question, but how has one become cat of the year?

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<v Speaker 1>Visitors could spot Matilda on her personal Shas lounge in the, she could also be found in her favorite places behind the computer, on the front desk or lounging on a baggage cart.

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<v Speaker 1>The doorman fed her and the general manager's executive assistant answered Matilda's email.

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<v Speaker 2>She has an email.

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<v Speaker 2>She

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<v Speaker 1>Did the current hotel cat, who, again, we met is Hamlet the eighth who joined the team after being rescued from a shelter on long island.

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<v Speaker 1>Another cool tradition that Frank Case started at the hotel was discounted lunches for struggling writers, which we will talk about more in a minute, which was still practiced up until the hotel closed.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, now they're not, they're currently not serving food temporarily.

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<v Speaker 1>So Frank Case was actually fairly opposed to drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>He closed down the hotel bar in 1917, before prohibition even hit and was famously very opposed to speakeasies.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite all of that, there is a cocktail named after the hotel called the Algonquin.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>He was against prohibition.

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<v Speaker 1>So Frank Case, who is the owner that we've, he owned the hotel for a long period of time, started a lot of these traditions.

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<v Speaker 1>He personally was very opposed.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed to drinking or, you know, he, he shut down the hotel bar years, but a few years before prohibition, he kind of was outspoken against speakeasy during prohibition.

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<v Speaker 1>I

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, he was letting the Evangel joke will stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But despite all of that, and I'm not sure exactly when this popped up, if it popped up during his tenure or later, but there is a cocktail that's named after the hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he must hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the cocktail is called the Algonquin it's made with Ry whiskey, Noy, PRT and pineapple juice.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did see what

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<v Speaker 2>Is an oily

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<v Speaker 1>Pratt.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might be a kind of a MOUs, but I did see it on the menu.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also another famous drink at this hotel, which is called the$10,000 martini.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it cost$10,000?

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<v Speaker 1>It does.

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's diamond in it.

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<v Speaker 1>What, and they put it on the menu to celebrate after like a very long renovation that they had.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's like a famous story of like a Texas oil driller or a Texas venture capitalist or some rich guy from Texas getting the drink and then proposing to his girlfriend with a diamond that was in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So act so you're there you are.

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<v Speaker 1>There you

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<v Speaker 2>Are.

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<v Speaker 2>You wanna propose?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But you just met this girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can just order this drink and it comes with the diamond.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how many diamonds they have on hand?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, probably tons because they are not in short supply.

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<v Speaker 2>you to beers.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the beers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, here goes the tangent.

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<v Speaker 2>So to beers is

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be the 100th episode without an Alan tangent, but about something totally irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's

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<v Speaker 2>In, it's it's real relevant to everyone's to everyone's life.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So de beers is the sole company just about that owns the diamond minds of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>They have created an artificial monopoly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Simply to make the illusion that diamonds are rare.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not rare at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just carbon compressed.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually quite ubiquitous.

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<v Speaker 2>And by owning the entire world's supply of natural diamonds, they completely control the price of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's they've artificially kept diamonds, very expensive into beers is responsible of the vast majority of ch workers in slavery, uh, and blood diamonds that are, you know, that we try not to hear about.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, you know, we become aware.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, this is all just an artificial monopoly that they have created.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, we should boycot diamonds.

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<v Speaker 1>I

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, a lot of people are, as you see all the articles about how millennials are killing the eye, the diamond industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>Feel very out

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<v Speaker 2>Of the loop on that's because you, you know, you made it so awful.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want diamonds.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's no.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I want literally any other kind of cool stone,

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<v Speaker 2>There is nothing unethical about a diamond it's self, but also there's nothing rare about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can make a diamond in the lab.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the rarest stone.

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<v Speaker 2>So, um, I don't know what the rarest stone is off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>Chars hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not chars hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'm gonna say it is one of the super unstable radioactive isotopes.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What I want

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<v Speaker 2>Simply because it can exist for such a short amount of time before decaying into another element.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Life is fleeting, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, despite the whole campaign of diamonds are forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, but yeah, uh, a diamond again, it's just co you could just take carbon, you just throw it under a whole bunch of pressure with special equipment and it is now a di that's you now have this, this precious stone.

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Well,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I used to say when I would get cold for Christmas that I would just squeeze it hard enough in my hands and turn it into diamonds.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called?

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<v Speaker 1>Cubic zircon.

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<v Speaker 2>Cubic Zicon yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I mean, it, I mean, it looks very similar.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't glisten quite the same and it does not have the structural integrity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, you know, there there's so many, uh, you can get like diamond coded drill bits, right?

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<v Speaker 2>You'd think that would be expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Cuz again, diamonds.

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<v Speaker 2>Aren't rare.

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<v Speaker 1>So does this de boy

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<v Speaker 2>The

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<v Speaker 1>Beers, the beers he lets uh, the drill bits go from the diamond mines.

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<v Speaker 2>Any diamond that has, that is cloudy or colored, uh, gets sold for industrial purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well thank you for that for catching me up on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hot button issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm, I'm sure some facts were off on there, but bottom line is the beer sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>What's boycot diamonds.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just, they're right up there for, with Nestle for just like over most of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Nestle total house.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what that's from?

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<v Speaker 1>No friends Phoebe the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I mean, do we have to talk about Nestle now?

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<v Speaker 1>No, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not talk about Nestle.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the Algonquin hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you in favor of Nestle?

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with Nestle.

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<v Speaker 2>Nestle is making artificial monopoly on water.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm so up on the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you are hearing this on Reddit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have a, well, once we stop recording this, we'll start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Just tell us all the places to boycot de beers and nest, where

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<v Speaker 2>Else we're gonna, we're gonna run outta media before we're done.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The Algonquin hotel is known for something called the Algonquin round table, which started in June of 1919.

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<v Speaker 1>The hotel was the ideal gathering place for creatives because it's perfectly situated between the theater district and Manhattan and where the major publishing companies had at one time setup shop.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the big publishers had times square offices.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>The Algon like con nest used to be in the, in times square, both

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<v Speaker 2>For the people that have to like live and work in the city, realize they do not wanna be anywhere near times square.

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<v Speaker 2>It's

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<v Speaker 1>Literally the worst place in Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidebar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Since they have turned times square into pedestrians, they, they what's the term pedestrianized maybe uh, bottom line is they, they blocked off Broadway.

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<v Speaker 2>So cars can't drive through it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now just for pedestrians.

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<v Speaker 2>It is now so much more pleasant.

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<v Speaker 2>Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I've been there since that's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you definitely have.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened like five years ago then

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<v Speaker 1>It was, it's still not that pleasant to me freaking hate times square.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a thousand million people,

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<v Speaker 2>But it used to be so much worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Algonquin round table was a group of creatives who were made up of actors, journalists, authors, humorous PR folks who would have lunch meetings in the dining room daily.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the members started as writers at vanity fair, actually.

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<v Speaker 1>And the group included many notable journalists, Franklin P Adams, Hayward brown Jane Grant, who was a journalist who co-founded the new Yorker with her husband, Harold Ross, who is also an attendance at these lunches, Ruth Hale, a journalist famous for her feminist writing and humorous like Robert Benchley playwrights, Mark Conley, George S.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaufman, who was a playwright or producer and a humorist.

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<v Speaker 1>And Robert Isherwood a playwright and a screenwriter.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the famous actor and comedian Harpo marks, illustrator, Nicea MCMA poet, Dorothy Parker and Alexander Walcot, who is a drama critic and commentator for the new Yorker.

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<v Speaker 1>So the group met and discussed culture.

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<v Speaker 1>They exchanged ideas and opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>And this meeting ritual lasted for almost a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like a saloon if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>But they would come to the Algonquin's dining room, sit at this very specific round table, this group of people and discuss culture.

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<v Speaker 1>And because they were really like the original influencers of society, it had a pretty big impact on, you know, the art scene.

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<v Speaker 2>So these people would just kind of like sit and collaborate amongst their art.

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<v Speaker 2>So would kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>Every day at lunch here for a decade,

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<v Speaker 2>Just imagine having lunch with the same people every single day for 10 years.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, unless they're your best friends, sparking creative joy in your brain

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<v Speaker 2>For 10 years straight that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they took breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>I

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Famously this group influenced writers like F Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway,

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<v Speaker 2>Great writers

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<v Speaker 1>And several members who I mentioned founded the new Yorker magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>And so all guests received free copies to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>The group identified as the vicious circle and they eventually expanded to include a few more members and the Algonquin provided the table a dedicated waiter and covered the celery and popovers.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now that's a tradition

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<v Speaker 2>They covered with, they covered it with celery.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they would give them for free every day, celery and popover.

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<v Speaker 2>What are popovers

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're sort of like little fancy rolls, I guess is the best way.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not really that dense, but that's a similar comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>Are

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<v Speaker 2>They stuff with anything

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<v Speaker 1>I've had them stuffed with like cheese and things, but I they're not always, they're kind of like they similar to like a Yorkshire pudding.

00:27:33.621 --> 00:27:33.900
<v Speaker 1>Maybe.

00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:34.980
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what that is?

00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:35.619
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't.

00:27:35.621 --> 00:27:35.900
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:27:35.901 --> 00:27:36.339
<v Speaker 1>Nevermind.

00:27:36.940 --> 00:27:37.019
<v Speaker 1>All right.

00:27:37.020 --> 00:27:39.299
<v Speaker 1>So just say they covered the bread and CEL, right?

00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:39.779
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:27:40.339 --> 00:27:41.220
<v Speaker 2>Pretty stingy

00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:44.099
<v Speaker 1>For free for these people every day.

00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:44.900
<v Speaker 2>For 10 years.

00:27:45.250 --> 00:27:45.539
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:27:45.970 --> 00:27:47.660
<v Speaker 1>They could pay for their own bloody Marys.

00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.940
<v Speaker 1>So when the hotel was open before COVID

00:27:52.369 --> 00:27:56.220
<v Speaker 2>Hemingway's, uh, liquor bill probably paid the rent alone.

00:27:56.779 --> 00:27:58.140
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that Hemingway was here.

00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:59.059
<v Speaker 2>You just said

00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:00.779
<v Speaker 1>He was influenced by this group.

00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:02.900
<v Speaker 2>He was influenced by the group, but he was not in the group.

00:28:03.089 --> 00:28:03.380
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:14.329
<v Speaker 1>So you can still, if you visit at the hotel before it closed for the pandemic, you could actually still eat at this table by request in the dining room, which was a very popular thing to do.

00:28:15.430 --> 00:28:18.609
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure when it reopened, they reopened the dining room.

00:28:18.750 --> 00:28:20.250
<v Speaker 1>It will still be a fixture there

00:28:21.450 --> 00:28:24.450
<v Speaker 2>Cause they, they probably ultra modernized did the round tables now square

00:28:25.549 --> 00:28:30.599
<v Speaker 1>In 1950, William Faulkner wrote his noble prize acceptance speech here.

00:28:31.099 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>What, what did Faulkner win for

00:28:33.099 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>The sound and the fury?

00:28:34.121 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Whoa.

00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I also wanna talk about the Oak room at the Algonquin hotel.

00:28:40.779 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>It opened in 1939 as the Oak room supper club, though.

00:28:45.441 --> 00:28:48.150
<v Speaker 1>It did close shortly after that because of world war II.

00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:55.069
<v Speaker 1>However it reopened in the eighties and became one of new York's most popular cabaret clubs.

00:28:56.089 --> 00:29:00.829
<v Speaker 1>The room helped kickstart the career of Michael Feinstein and Harry con Jr.

00:29:01.019 --> 00:29:10.819
<v Speaker 1>Just to name a few and very sadly Sylvia Sims, who is a jazz singer and performer in the Oak room while performing on stage in 1992,

00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:12.460
<v Speaker 2>She died on stage.

00:29:12.730 --> 00:29:13.220
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:14.740
<v Speaker 2>She was a singer

00:29:15.589 --> 00:29:16.420
<v Speaker 1>While performing,

00:29:16.509 --> 00:29:17.180
<v Speaker 2>Performing

00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:20.579
<v Speaker 1>The Oak room closed its doors in 2012.

00:29:22.210 --> 00:29:22.500
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:29.529
<v Speaker 1>So now that we've kind of set the stage, hopefully you can all understand why the history is interesting, right?

00:29:29.530 --> 00:29:36.289
<v Speaker 1>There's this rich culture of literary and creative elites who are congregating here.

00:29:36.290 --> 00:29:46.410
<v Speaker 1>Famous actors are very much part of, you know, especially during like the golden era of filmmaking and theater and, and kind of all of these defining moments in new York's history.

00:29:48.069 --> 00:29:48.529
<v Speaker 1>And then

00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Somebody dies on stage.

00:29:52.059 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean

00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 2>The first ghost.

00:29:54.190 --> 00:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:29:54.519 --> 00:30:10.509
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I, I point that out just to say like, of course we're really highlighting the shiny bits, but of course there was also a lot of excessive drinking and drugs and death and other things that did happen in this hotel as happen in all hotels.

00:30:10.510 --> 00:30:10.630
<v Speaker 1>Right?

00:30:10.631 --> 00:30:13.349
<v Speaker 1>So the history is, uh, sorted.

00:30:13.900 --> 00:30:16.509
<v Speaker 1>It's not all, you know, celery and popovers,

00:30:17.410 --> 00:30:22.349
<v Speaker 2>If this place has never been touched by organized crime, I will eat this microphone.

00:30:23.579 --> 00:30:23.579
<v Speaker 1>Pika.

00:30:24.430 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Pika that's no, see that would make it mildly more enjoyable.

00:30:30.789 --> 00:30:38.109
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Pika, I was just talking with someone about Michael LA, Tito, do you know his name?

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:39.109
<v Speaker 1>Never heard of

00:30:39.109 --> 00:30:39.230
<v Speaker 2>It.

00:30:39.410 --> 00:30:42.430
<v Speaker 2>So he's a famous person with Pika.

00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:42.990
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:30:43.289 --> 00:30:50.579
<v Speaker 2>Simply because you know, you know, for anyone who doesn't know, uh, Pika is when people crave non-edible things,

00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:52.099
<v Speaker 1>Uh, like glass,

00:30:52.250 --> 00:30:54.819
<v Speaker 2>Like glass or rubber or plastic.

00:30:54.910 --> 00:30:55.259
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.299
<v Speaker 2>And they'll eat it just crazy.

00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:58.980
<v Speaker 2>But you know, people do

00:30:58.980 --> 00:30:59.059
<v Speaker 1>It.

00:30:59.210 --> 00:30:59.819
<v Speaker 1>It's not crazy.

00:30:59.849 --> 00:31:01.220
<v Speaker 1>It's a mental disorder.

00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:07.609
<v Speaker 2>It's a mental disorder unless you're Michael a who made a whole career out of it.

00:31:08.230 --> 00:31:09.410
<v Speaker 1>So he's an entrepreneur.

00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:18.250
<v Speaker 2>He's an entrepreneur guess like, guess what he ate that sparked the conversation with my friend,

00:31:19.569 --> 00:31:20.210
<v Speaker 1>A dumbbell

00:31:21.329 --> 00:31:21.769
<v Speaker 2>Ascena airplane.

00:31:23.289 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Uh, what, what's that an actual airplane?

00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:27.519
<v Speaker 2>It, yeah.

00:31:27.520 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I just showed her.

00:31:28.201 --> 00:31:29.359
<v Speaker 2>It's an actual airplane.

00:31:29.750 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like a full airplane.

00:31:32.390 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Like a puddle jumper.

00:31:33.829 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not a large airplane.

00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>He eat the whole thing.

00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Ate the entire plane.

00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>No, he didn't is he did tell what, tell me more.

00:31:40.859 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>He, he did he die?

00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean like, did he eat it over 12 years?

00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:47.829
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I don't know how long it took him to eat.

00:31:48.099 --> 00:31:48.549
<v Speaker 2>Hang on.

00:31:49.069 --> 00:31:50.630
<v Speaker 1>I mean, your body must shut down.

00:31:52.019 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 1>How do you even chew the metal?

00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I mean, I'm a, you

00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Have to boil it down.

00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>No, you can't boil metal down.

00:31:58.839 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>That'd be like

00:31:59.910 --> 00:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Alex

00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Smelling it.

00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can't Alex smack the plane.

00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.630
<v Speaker 2>Uh, but you can bring it into small pieces is,

00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:08.190
<v Speaker 1>But it still meant it.

00:32:08.191 --> 00:32:09.789
<v Speaker 1>Didn't like cut open all his organs.

00:32:09.789 --> 00:32:13.549
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I don't know how he did it, but he did it.

00:32:14.049 --> 00:32:16.549
<v Speaker 2>So do you wanna hear a list of some things that he ate?

00:32:17.259 --> 00:32:17.549
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:32:17.849 --> 00:32:19.390
<v Speaker 2>So besides the Sesna

00:32:19.470 --> 00:32:21.309
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that this is all vetted, but okay.

00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:21.670
<v Speaker 1>This

00:32:21.670 --> 00:32:23.190
<v Speaker 2>Is, I mean, I, I just Google this.

00:32:23.191 --> 00:32:24.150
<v Speaker 2>This is from Wikipedia.

00:32:24.220 --> 00:32:24.509
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:25.710
<v Speaker 2>Quick side note.

00:32:25.900 --> 00:32:29.140
<v Speaker 2>This is his, uh, over the course of his eating career.

00:32:29.450 --> 00:32:29.740
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:41.819
<v Speaker 2>18 bicycles, 15 shopping carts, seven TVs, six chandeliers, two beds, one pair of skis.

00:32:42.130 --> 00:32:45.180
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because it's not like a flashlight.

00:32:45.181 --> 00:32:46.099
<v Speaker 1>It's like a bed.

00:32:46.650 --> 00:32:46.940
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:49.410
<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, he's a, what's his

00:32:49.410 --> 00:32:49.650
<v Speaker 1>Name?

00:32:50.369 --> 00:32:51.410
<v Speaker 2>Uh, this is Michael LA Tito.

00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:52.170
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:32:52.171 --> 00:32:59.210
<v Speaker 1>So I just Googled the CSNA took roughly two years to be Eaton his method for eating.

00:32:59.349 --> 00:33:02.930
<v Speaker 1>All of this metal was to break into small pieces before attempting to eat it.

00:33:03.309 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>He then drank mineral oil and continue to drink water while swallowing the bits Yu

00:33:09.740 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of dedication.

00:33:11.700 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 1>The photos of him are so funny because it's like him with like a fork knife in a tux and like a very fancy little beauty, the beast dinner setup right next to a plane.

00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like a very good marketing photo shoot for this.

00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:33.309
<v Speaker 2>So on his list, he also ate one Guinness award plaque, which I'm assuming he won for eating and then ate it.

00:33:33.809 --> 00:33:37.789
<v Speaker 1>It looks like he has metal teeth, uh, like overlays or something that went on.

00:33:37.790 --> 00:33:38.069
<v Speaker 1>Like,

00:33:38.789 --> 00:33:41.549
<v Speaker 2>I mean, normal teeth are not gonna help you when eating an airplane.

00:33:41.819 --> 00:33:43.660
<v Speaker 2>This guy's a, he's a, he's a thinker.

00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:45.579
<v Speaker 1>All right.

00:33:45.580 --> 00:33:46.259
<v Speaker 1>Well, there you go.

00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:47.059
<v Speaker 1>Now we have it.

00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:52.900
<v Speaker 1>So on that note, shall we pivot to the hauntings of the Algonquin hotel?

00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:58.259
<v Speaker 2>Uh, if you'd like, if you have any more questions about Michael LA Tito, uh, or Mr.

00:33:58.900 --> 00:34:00.819
<v Speaker 2>Al, uh, please just let me know.

00:34:01.089 --> 00:34:01.380
<v Speaker 2>Well,

00:34:01.500 --> 00:34:06.009
<v Speaker 1>I suppose we could do PKA episode because there are a few horror films that feature Pika

00:34:06.190 --> 00:34:06.609
<v Speaker 2>Really

00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:08.409
<v Speaker 1>Like swallow for one.

00:34:08.829 --> 00:34:12.969
<v Speaker 1>So maybe it may be worth, uh, exploring at a later date episode.

00:34:13.369 --> 00:34:14.090
<v Speaker 1>Oh, 200.

00:34:14.429 --> 00:34:18.130
<v Speaker 2>If you think we can do a whole episode on Pika, I'll be very impressed.

00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:20.090
<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll bring on a psychologist.

00:34:20.179 --> 00:34:21.250
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to the bottom of it.

00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:22.170
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So shifting gears back to the Algonquin, right?

00:34:25.369 --> 00:34:26.679
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about the history.

00:34:26.730 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about why we were drawn to this place.

00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 1>I will say when you Google New York city haunted hotels, the Algonquin is on every single list.

00:34:35.699 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>And so it felt like this was the one, right?

00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>This is the one,

00:34:39.989 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>This is the one.

00:34:41.179 --> 00:34:43.670
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk a little bit about some of the haunt things.

00:34:44.409 --> 00:34:48.949
<v Speaker 1>So there have been rumors that this hotel has been haunted for many, many, many years.

00:34:49.690 --> 00:35:05.659
<v Speaker 1>And the hotel staff believed in these rumors, the claims, the sightings enough that for over 50 years, they would dim the lights and March through the building, banging pots and pans on new year's Eve in order, or to banish the evil spirits.

00:35:06.300 --> 00:35:06.300
<v Speaker 2>Aha.

00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:11.820
<v Speaker 2>New year's Eve, cuz cuz here we are whispering To, to not upset people.

00:35:11.820 --> 00:35:14.420
<v Speaker 2>And they would just March around the whole hotel, bagging, pots and pants.

00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.179
<v Speaker 1>But first of all, that sounds so fun.

00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:24.059
<v Speaker 1>And like rockish, to me like in the twenties and thirties, they would turn the lights in the hotel off on new year's Eve or turn them down.

00:35:24.769 --> 00:35:28.610
<v Speaker 1>And the staff like March around banging pots and pans, like that sounds so fun.

00:35:29.230 --> 00:35:42.969
<v Speaker 1>As you can imagine, many people believe that the hotel is haunted by the spirits of members of the vicious circle, some of the most prominent and impactful cultural influencers from the first half of the 19 hundreds.

00:35:44.230 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>In addition you the usual paranormal sightings, right?

00:35:47.001 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>That you see in hotels, like lots of reports of shadowy apparitions, lots of reports of footsteps and empty hallways.

00:35:54.219 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>The staff and guests both have reported more specific incidents, but those are certainly part of it.

00:36:00.469 --> 00:36:08.349
<v Speaker 1>Lots of, you know, people online saying that they're hearing footsteps and in hallways when they're alone, but no, you know, there's nobody around.

00:36:08.539 --> 00:36:08.829
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

00:36:09.130 --> 00:36:19.550
<v Speaker 1>Or that they've seen like actual apparitions of, you know, people that weren't there very similar to, I think some of the sightings from the Bowery hotel

00:36:20.170 --> 00:36:22.429
<v Speaker 2>Or similar to that, of the Stanley hotel.

00:36:22.690 --> 00:36:22.909
<v Speaker 2>Yes,

00:36:22.909 --> 00:36:23.389
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

00:36:24.849 --> 00:36:34.659
<v Speaker 1>So one of these Pacific incidents, some folks claim that the spirit of Dorothy Parker who is one of the members of the round table prefers the quiet.

00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.380
<v Speaker 1>She is known to have hushed a group of loud children.

00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.340
<v Speaker 1>Parker unfortunately had a very difficult life.

00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:47.099
<v Speaker 1>She struggled with her mental health and was ultimately committed to a Sanitarium.

00:36:47.889 --> 00:36:52.860
<v Speaker 1>Some believed that she had actually attempted to complete suicide at the Algonquin hotel.

00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:54.900
<v Speaker 1>She was a regular here.

00:36:54.900 --> 00:36:55.219
<v Speaker 1>Right?

00:36:55.221 --> 00:37:00.219
<v Speaker 1>She was part of the round table and she actually drank a lot.

00:37:00.369 --> 00:37:02.170
<v Speaker 1>Like she was kind of a known alcoholic.

00:37:02.309 --> 00:37:03.090
<v Speaker 1>She was depressed.

00:37:03.090 --> 00:37:03.289
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:37:03.291 --> 00:37:04.530
<v Speaker 1>She was struggling with a lot of things.

00:37:04.530 --> 00:37:05.849
<v Speaker 1>Self-medicating sure.

00:37:06.030 --> 00:37:13.730
<v Speaker 1>And so even though she's incredibly funny and I will read you some of her quotes in a minute, you know her history here was again, complicated

00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:14.570
<v Speaker 2>Checkered.

00:37:14.570 --> 00:37:15.010
<v Speaker 2>If you will.

00:37:15.469 --> 00:37:19.730
<v Speaker 1>The napkins in the hotel bar are known to have her famous quotes about drinking on them.

00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>But again, to kind of honor the other side of her life, I'm going to read you some quotes that are not about drinking quote, if you want to know.

00:37:29.340 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>So these are all Dorothy Parker quotes, quote.

00:37:33.019 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 1>If you wanna know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to quote.

00:37:38.860 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 1>The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth.

00:37:41.389 --> 00:37:46.230
<v Speaker 1>Sharpen my tongue quote, heterosexuality is not normal.

00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:49.070
<v Speaker 1>It's just common quote.

00:37:49.269 --> 00:37:49.869
<v Speaker 1>I hate writing.

00:37:50.269 --> 00:37:54.989
<v Speaker 1>I love having written, but Parker isn't the only vicious circle spirit haunting.

00:37:54.990 --> 00:38:00.829
<v Speaker 1>The Algonquin staff and guests have had sightings of other members walking in the lobby, the bar.

00:38:01.010 --> 00:38:09.179
<v Speaker 1>And of course in dining room, hotel, guests have reported hearing songs in the elevator that other guests in the car don't hear or notice.

00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:16.260
<v Speaker 1>So one woman specifically heard a woman's voice singing I'm in the mood for love in the elevator.

00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:20.500
<v Speaker 1>And she kinda like jokingly asked her husband like, oh, I wonder who's singing that right.

00:38:20.739 --> 00:38:28.889
<v Speaker 1>Cuz she thought it must be coming through radio and realized that her husband in another passenger in the ho in the elevator couldn't hear it.

00:38:29.349 --> 00:38:30.489
<v Speaker 1>She was the only one that could hear it.

00:38:30.490 --> 00:38:32.530
<v Speaker 1>But she heard very clearly, like she could hear it

00:38:33.070 --> 00:38:36.650
<v Speaker 2>At which point he said, darling, take out your AirPods.

00:38:37.940 --> 00:38:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Later that night, the same guest heard furniture being moved like all night, not like, you know, us setting up the podcast thing like furniture being moved all night.

00:38:47.820 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 1>And I will say there's a lot of carpets here.

00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't like when we slid stuff, it slid very easily.

00:38:53.980 --> 00:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't allowed

00:38:54.909 --> 00:38:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Well there's there's carpet in this, in this room.

00:38:57.969 --> 00:38:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Right?

00:38:58.659 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Who knows maybe other rooms don't have carpet,

00:39:00.780 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>But most hotel rooms have carpet don't they?

00:39:04.150 --> 00:39:04.150
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

00:39:04.150 --> 00:39:04.670
<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

00:39:04.849 --> 00:39:06.829
<v Speaker 2>I'm just playing devil's advocate.

00:39:07.429 --> 00:39:07.429
<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

00:39:08.329 --> 00:39:11.030
<v Speaker 1>And then very similar again to the Barry hotel.

00:39:11.130 --> 00:39:17.469
<v Speaker 1>One thing that happens here a lot is that the elevators will stop at every floor or they'll bring you to random floors.

00:39:17.940 --> 00:39:19.389
<v Speaker 1>They won't bring you where you wanna go.

00:39:19.769 --> 00:39:34.139
<v Speaker 1>And so again, this woman, this one woman had incidents later in the night or later in her stay where she was kind of with another guest in the elevator, they were trying to go to whatever floors and the elevators kept stopping at like every other floor.

00:39:34.141 --> 00:39:37.300
<v Speaker 1>It took them a very long time to make their way to their rooms.

00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.500
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of a recurring theme here.

00:39:39.789 --> 00:39:47.059
<v Speaker 1>There was another kind of spooky encounter that I found online, which was a guest who had two encounters during his stay.

00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:59.730
<v Speaker 1>He first heard a tapping in the bathroom from his hotel room and then later was followed back to his room by the sound of footsteps, right behind him again with no physical form to account for them.

00:40:00.349 --> 00:40:10.250
<v Speaker 1>So if you look at some of the sightings, especially around the elevators, the general consensus is that the ghost are a bit mischievous, like a little bit pist.

00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I'm still trying to make up my mind because everything so far has been either auditory tricks, right.

00:40:23.630 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>That, you know, I I'm, I'm not even gonna go into again.

00:40:27.001 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 2>We talked about this a lot in the Bowery episode.

00:40:30.030 --> 00:40:42.150
<v Speaker 2>It's so easy to be fooled by acoustics in a space, especially when you are in a place like a hotel where you're in here for just a short amount of time, you know?

00:40:42.829 --> 00:40:53.349
<v Speaker 2>Uh, how many, like, I don't know if you noticed this personally about your, you know, your, your apartment, but how many like weird sounds, uh, do you hear?

00:40:53.449 --> 00:40:56.909
<v Speaker 2>But because you've been in there for so long, you can identify like, oh,

00:40:57.389 --> 00:41:00.980
<v Speaker 1>I still hear sounds that I don't, I can't explain, but I've just accepted them.

00:41:01.530 --> 00:41:01.820
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:41:02.010 --> 00:41:18.820
<v Speaker 2>Well, so a, a good example is the corner of my apartment by one window every so often, uh, at night, well, you'll hear a tapping and you know, you heard this once.

00:41:18.820 --> 00:41:20.099
<v Speaker 2>You're like, what the is that?

00:41:20.789 --> 00:41:38.250
<v Speaker 2>And then it took me a while to figure out, but at night when it's significantly colder, the way the heat rises, uh, from the heater, uh, interacts with the cold windows and just causes the expansion in that area to cause the tapping noise.

00:41:38.929 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and this can just be confirmed because if you turn off your heat, it never happens.

00:41:43.610 --> 00:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:41:44.980 --> 00:41:55.000
<v Speaker 2>But when you're in a hotel, you know, you're just gonna hear all these like strange things that kind of grab your attention, but you're never gonna stay long enough to actually like get to the bottom of it unless you're, you know, going crazy.

00:41:55.670 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Totally.

00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:02.269
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the thing, obviously, this hotel is old, so there are Creek key floors.

00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:13.909
<v Speaker 1>There are thin walls, you know, even just walking around on the floor, like it, it's not, it's like a lot less insulated than even our apartments are right because of the age.

00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:18.909
<v Speaker 1>So you can hear when the neighbors come back to their rooms, you can hear when people are talking close by.

00:42:19.610 --> 00:42:21.630
<v Speaker 1>So that is something certainly to consider.

00:42:21.940 --> 00:42:22.260
<v Speaker 1>Right?

00:42:22.690 --> 00:42:23.380
<v Speaker 2>Furthermore,

00:42:23.769 --> 00:42:24.059
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:42:24.460 --> 00:42:26.019
<v Speaker 2>Elevators, they go crazy.

00:42:26.030 --> 00:42:26.380
<v Speaker 2>Right?

00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:28.860
<v Speaker 2>All these elevators are retrofits.

00:42:29.369 --> 00:42:34.980
<v Speaker 2>Obviously any place that is, this old had an elevator that was previously like a,

00:42:34.980 --> 00:42:35.980
<v Speaker 1>Like a cage elevator,

00:42:36.260 --> 00:42:38.219
<v Speaker 2>A cage elevator with a man operator.

00:42:38.409 --> 00:42:40.260
<v Speaker 2>Well with just a human operator.

00:42:40.530 --> 00:42:40.820
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:41.659
<v Speaker 1>A woman operator,

00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:44.980
<v Speaker 2>A human operator, man.

00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:45.500
<v Speaker 2>Oh, sorry.

00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:45.900
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

00:42:46.820 --> 00:42:46.820
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:42:47.179 --> 00:42:48.380
<v Speaker 1>It's making a joke there, but yes, a

00:42:49.550 --> 00:42:50.820
<v Speaker 2>Human operator

00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:52.219
<v Speaker 1>Of any gender of

00:42:52.219 --> 00:42:54.260
<v Speaker 2>Any gender regardless.

00:42:55.820 --> 00:42:57.889
<v Speaker 2>They've, they've all been replaced by computers.

00:42:59.409 --> 00:43:04.610
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and anytime you're retrofiting anything there's of course quirks.

00:43:05.510 --> 00:43:09.570
<v Speaker 2>And when you there's all sorts of like fluky elevators.

00:43:09.570 --> 00:43:11.449
<v Speaker 2>So like a great example of this.

00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:12.130
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:43:13.369 --> 00:43:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I was doing a shoot, uh, just a couple weeks ago in, in Newark.

00:43:18.900 --> 00:43:27.599
<v Speaker 2>And we were shooting on this stage that had a giant factor, a former factory with, I think like four floors maybe.

00:43:28.539 --> 00:43:31.519
<v Speaker 2>And it had this enormous elevator that went between the floors.

00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Cause it used to move machinery around.

00:43:33.030 --> 00:43:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:43:33.940 --> 00:43:43.869
<v Speaker 2>Now that used to just be like a cargo lift or afraid elevator, if you will, it's it's still a freight elevator, but you used to be like, man, you still have to like close everything and you know, move it around.

00:43:44.670 --> 00:43:51.670
<v Speaker 2>Um, but now you just push buttons, but uh, there's still like weird sensors with the doors.

00:43:52.510 --> 00:44:02.699
<v Speaker 2>Uh, because previously, you know, uh, you, the operators had to manually make sure that all the CA like the cage was closed, the doors were shut, all these things to operate safely.

00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.420
<v Speaker 2>Now it's just sensors, but it's still going through a legacy system.

00:44:07.090 --> 00:44:15.340
<v Speaker 2>Well, on one of the floors, the sensor didn't work and I couldn't get the door open and someone just comes.

00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:19.449
<v Speaker 2>Over's like, oh, you just gotta like, you know, muscle it open and like, Nope.

00:44:19.809 --> 00:44:19.809
<v Speaker 2>Nope.

00:44:19.929 --> 00:44:21.409
<v Speaker 2>You just, he muscled it open.

00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:22.369
<v Speaker 2>Okay, great.

00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:23.809
<v Speaker 2>Well, uh,

00:44:23.869 --> 00:44:24.929
<v Speaker 1>That's very dangerous.

00:44:25.179 --> 00:44:25.730
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that

00:44:25.989 --> 00:44:27.489
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the shoot.

00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:29.170
<v Speaker 2>We're trying to get out.

00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:30.889
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, you just gotta muscle it open.

00:44:31.469 --> 00:44:33.050
<v Speaker 2>And so someone's like, oh, no problem.

00:44:33.230 --> 00:44:33.730
<v Speaker 2>And they do.

00:44:33.731 --> 00:44:38.650
<v Speaker 2>And they muscle it open and we grab them before they step into an empty elevator shaft,

00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Please don't do that.

00:44:40.219 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 1>That's so dangerous.

00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, that was the, the end of us using the elevator.

00:44:44.980 --> 00:44:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Cuz we also left and hopefully never go back, but you know, like there's weird quirk spot elevators.

00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Who's not to say like, oh, it was a ghost.

00:44:52.619 --> 00:44:53.639
<v Speaker 2>It was a ghost that made it.

00:44:53.641 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 2>So the elevator wasn't there.

00:44:55.309 --> 00:44:55.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the app full body apparitions obviously are maybe more compelled.

00:44:59.820 --> 00:45:01.469
<v Speaker 1>They are harder to explain away.

00:45:01.739 --> 00:45:08.550
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's, it's, it is a shame that there isn't more documentation on these full body apparitions, cuz for me, that's the selling point.

00:45:09.170 --> 00:45:25.380
<v Speaker 1>So I think the main thing that seems to be reported most often is staff and guests seeing what they think are members of the Algonquin round table, because they're old timey right.

00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.380
<v Speaker 1>In the dining room and in the lobby of the hotel.

00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.500
<v Speaker 1>So experiencing the feeling of you're like, oh, somebody's over there.

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.380
<v Speaker 1>Oh, they're dressed from another era.

00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:37.179
<v Speaker 1>Oh they're gone.

00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.659
<v Speaker 1>And that's something that repeatedly happens over and over again.

00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:47.539
<v Speaker 1>And people are, are kind of, I think, I don't know that they're seeing people where they're like, oh, that's specifically Dorothy Parker, but maybe they are.

00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:52.659
<v Speaker 1>And it's, it's very hard to say we spent some time in the lobby today.

00:45:53.019 --> 00:45:59.570
<v Speaker 1>I didn't, I see anybody, but I, I do have a little bit of a vibe here.

00:45:59.730 --> 00:46:02.929
<v Speaker 1>I would say almost less of a vibe, but then at the Bowery, which is interesting.

00:46:03.869 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it, it's, it's kind of one of those things, if you do believe in the paranormal and you do believe that kind of the longer a place has history, the more likely it has accumulated spirits or energies, however you think about it, then I think it's certainly a, a thing that's worth exploring.

00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:46:25.019 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see how our, uh, poking goes after this.

00:46:27.980 --> 00:46:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh, for sure.

00:46:29.260 --> 00:46:36.309
<v Speaker 2>The one thing that I do like is that, you know, people are, well, people are seeing these very recognizable face is right.

00:46:36.500 --> 00:46:36.789
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:46:37.349 --> 00:46:45.989
<v Speaker 2>Uh, which, you know, the one side of it is like, okay, they are looking for it.

00:46:46.489 --> 00:46:48.269
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're looking for these people

00:46:48.769 --> 00:46:52.789
<v Speaker 1>And it's definitely like, even when you check in, they tell you about the history of the hotel.

00:46:52.791 --> 00:46:55.190
<v Speaker 1>Like it's very much a, a character here.

00:46:55.590 --> 00:46:55.590
<v Speaker 1>It's

00:46:55.590 --> 00:46:56.219
<v Speaker 2>A selling point.

00:46:56.309 --> 00:46:56.659
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:58.619
<v Speaker 1>And so, you know sure.

00:46:58.730 --> 00:47:01.739
<v Speaker 1>Like people are probably looking for it a lot,

00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:07.099
<v Speaker 2>But the, the, the flip side to my own negative Nancy nay saying,

00:47:07.190 --> 00:47:07.780
<v Speaker 1>Thank God

00:47:08.670 --> 00:47:15.699
<v Speaker 2>Would be that they, that these people were here every single day for lunch

00:47:15.699 --> 00:47:16.889
<v Speaker 1>Certainly and printed

00:47:17.110 --> 00:47:17.889
<v Speaker 2>For 10 years.

00:47:18.949 --> 00:47:34.329
<v Speaker 2>And if you go with the whole theory of ghosts that is, you know, echoes of the, the life of a person, they've certainly made some kind of imprint on here because they spent so so much time.

00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.289
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally.

00:47:37.309 --> 00:47:45.730
<v Speaker 1>And I think like in addition to just being here physically, it really is tied to the success of their careers.

00:47:45.820 --> 00:47:54.170
<v Speaker 1>There is a lot of like creative energy that was being exchanged a lot of collaboration and like life's work and passion, you know?

00:47:54.170 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if any of those things play into it or not, but I, I, I do think like in addition to just physically being here, it was a very meaningful place for those people and for the work that they were doing and for the art that they were creating.

00:48:07.849 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:48:08.260 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 1>And so that maybe amplifies things a bit too.

00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:11.519
<v Speaker 2>All right.

00:48:12.099 --> 00:48:20.949
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is our 100th episode and we are choosing to be here and were our creative energy and collaboration into this hotel room.

00:48:21.260 --> 00:48:22.510
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna suck us dry.

00:48:23.980 --> 00:48:26.070
<v Speaker 1>Like the, the, uh, overlook.

00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:29.510
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking more of like a creative vampire, but yeah.

00:48:30.190 --> 00:48:33.980
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I will say, I am still for you guys who follow me on social media.

00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.420
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sad to say I'm still reading the shining.

00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:45.699
<v Speaker 1>And it's very fun to, to be reading a novel about a haunted hotel while being in a haunted hotel.

00:48:46.300 --> 00:48:49.420
<v Speaker 2>I was looking for a game that I could bring for us to play here.

00:48:49.420 --> 00:48:50.420
<v Speaker 2>That was kind of spooky.

00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:52.809
<v Speaker 2>And I almost brought the shining board, our game.

00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:53.369
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:48:53.510 --> 00:48:54.530
<v Speaker 2>But it's three of our players.

00:48:55.010 --> 00:48:55.010
<v Speaker 2>Mm.

00:48:55.309 --> 00:48:56.650
<v Speaker 1>We could have one of the ghosts play

00:48:57.309 --> 00:48:58.170
<v Speaker 2>Now, what would that be?

00:48:58.170 --> 00:48:58.530
<v Speaker 2>Something

00:48:58.989 --> 00:49:00.250
<v Speaker 1>That'd be a good YouTube video.

00:49:00.389 --> 00:49:00.610
<v Speaker 1>Huh.

00:49:00.900 --> 00:49:03.090
<v Speaker 2>Where we're trying to play, but it's saying there's too new players.

00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:04.449
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:49:04.949 --> 00:49:06.769
<v Speaker 2>That's what games do they talk to you?

00:49:07.460 --> 00:49:08.010
<v Speaker 1>Board games.

00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:08.369
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:09.050
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:49:09.070 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>So very slow reader, really liking the shining, very connected to this hotel or very connected to haunted hotels in general.

00:49:18.420 --> 00:49:36.869
<v Speaker 1>All of that being said, one thing I wanna say before we jump over to ghost hunting mode is just that if you're interested in the history of this hotel, ghosts aside, there is a documentary which I found on YouTube pretty easily and it is called the 10 year lunch wit and legend of the Algonquin round table.

00:49:37.769 --> 00:49:40.190
<v Speaker 1>So just kind of a resource for people.

00:49:40.190 --> 00:49:59.500
<v Speaker 1>If you're interested in learning more about this hotel with a lot of like photos and videos of the people, themselves and of the rooms that these lunches and things took place in, obviously watch our coverage, but also go check out our, Go check out this documentary as well, because I think it is a very unique look at the history here.

00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:06.179
<v Speaker 2>Our coverage involved, involved, very tangential facts about a guy eating an airplane

00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:07.099
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:08.059
<v Speaker 1>Our coverage.

00:50:08.460 --> 00:50:10.659
<v Speaker 1>So, well, I meant our visual coverage on social media.

00:50:11.099 --> 00:50:11.099
<v Speaker 1>We

00:50:11.809 --> 00:50:18.530
<v Speaker 2>It's, it's there for nothing, but to you inspire you to go to a more reputable source.

00:50:19.900 --> 00:50:20.570
<v Speaker 1>There you go.

00:50:20.570 --> 00:50:23.690
<v Speaker 1>That's all we're here for just to peak your interest and then go back

00:50:23.769 --> 00:50:23.969
<v Speaker 2>To yes.

00:50:24.809 --> 00:50:24.809
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:50:25.050 --> 00:50:30.650
<v Speaker 2>We, again, I, I really wanna bring us back to where we started and which is an important thing.

00:50:30.809 --> 00:50:31.809
<v Speaker 2>Cause we're on episode 100.

00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:32.289
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:50:32.829 --> 00:50:38.519
<v Speaker 2>And really getting down to our, of roots of full confidence.

00:50:39.380 --> 00:50:40.280
<v Speaker 2>No fact checking.

00:50:41.179 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 1>That's never really been my stance, but I, I do remember when you used to say that a lot,

00:50:45.750 --> 00:50:50.079
<v Speaker 2>It's important, you know, you just go in, you just, you speak with passion, right?

00:50:50.260 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Not with information.

00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I, that's a good point.

00:50:54.161 --> 00:51:10.110
<v Speaker 1>We should pause and just say, yeah, it's our 100th episode, which obviously we are a bit over that if you count Lu Tick's library, but it's really kind of crazy to see how this podcast has evolved from the very first episode, which is

00:51:10.150 --> 00:51:11.030
<v Speaker 2>A man with an X

00:51:11.300 --> 00:51:12.469
<v Speaker 1>Stumbly and bumbly.

00:51:12.650 --> 00:51:13.789
<v Speaker 1>And certainly

00:51:14.250 --> 00:51:14.949
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even in it.

00:51:15.789 --> 00:51:15.789
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:51:15.940 --> 00:51:18.699
<v Speaker 1>Certainly a lot of, uh, growth as

00:51:19.099 --> 00:51:19.820
<v Speaker 2>Although I was there.

00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:23.099
<v Speaker 1>You were there, you were the sound engineer as you still are.

00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:25.139
<v Speaker 1>And now you're also

00:51:25.690 --> 00:51:26.500
<v Speaker 2>Call me out like that.

00:51:26.690 --> 00:51:26.980
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.099
<v Speaker 1>But just, I'm very proud of this podcast.

00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:33.940
<v Speaker 1>It brings me and Ellen, a lot of joy.

00:51:34.530 --> 00:51:37.179
<v Speaker 1>It's incredibly fun and fulfilling for us.

00:51:37.210 --> 00:51:42.179
<v Speaker 1>Well, for me, I, I won't speak for you, but it really means a lot to me.

00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.860
<v Speaker 1>And it's been so exciting to see it grow over the last few years.

00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.900
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just really grateful that you're all here listening with us.

00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:49.699
<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much.

00:51:50.730 --> 00:51:53.010
<v Speaker 2>I love sharing this burden with you.

00:51:55.190 --> 00:51:55.849
<v Speaker 1>Oh no.

00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:56.969
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:51:56.971 --> 00:51:58.369
<v Speaker 1>So here's what we're gonna do now.

00:51:59.289 --> 00:52:10.690
<v Speaker 1>We, we are going to try a paranormal investigation technique called the Estees method or Estees method, which big shout out to Chris.

00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:25.599
<v Speaker 1>So over at the buried secrets podcast who introduced me, not only to this method, but to Heller, which is a documentary where paranormal investigators kind of the paranormal investigators who actually invented this method.

00:52:26.300 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 1>And so that's how I also found out about it.

00:52:28.201 --> 00:52:32.829
<v Speaker 1>But the first time I ever met Chris in person, we, they taught me about this method.

00:52:32.929 --> 00:52:34.710
<v Speaker 1>So I've never done it without them.

00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:35.750
<v Speaker 1>We'll see how it goes.

00:52:36.530 --> 00:52:49.949
<v Speaker 1>So how this method works is that there's a control element, which you will not be able to hear, but one person will be listening to kind of a scan of FM or am radio waves.

00:52:50.619 --> 00:52:53.860
<v Speaker 1>That person will have headphones on noise, canceling headphones.

00:52:53.860 --> 00:53:04.699
<v Speaker 1>So they can't hear what's going on in the room and they will have a blindfold on what they will do is just say words or phrases that they hear come through the radio.

00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:14.210
<v Speaker 1>The other person will be asking questions of the spirit who reside in the hotel out loud.

00:53:14.829 --> 00:53:17.449
<v Speaker 1>And so what you would hear is the call and response, right?

00:53:17.789 --> 00:53:26.289
<v Speaker 1>But the person who's actually responding very similar to some of the, the E P methods of testing would not be able to hear the questions.

00:53:26.291 --> 00:53:26.610
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:53:26.610 --> 00:53:29.650
<v Speaker 1>And so that's very, very important that they can't hear the questions.

00:53:29.650 --> 00:53:32.210
<v Speaker 1>So they're not subconsciously influenced to answer them.

00:53:33.420 --> 00:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>So that's what we're gonna try.

00:53:35.539 --> 00:53:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Now.

00:53:35.900 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It may or may not work again.

00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:42.519
<v Speaker 1>This is our first time kind of trying to do it on our own, but we're excited to see how it goes.

00:53:48.980 --> 00:54:01.230
<v Speaker 1>So we just completed the Estes method and we both took turns each doing the speaking, listening to the radio and then the kind of talking directly to the powers that be in the room.

00:54:02.210 --> 00:54:06.949
<v Speaker 1>And I actually hadn't felt that anything was really here.

00:54:07.070 --> 00:54:27.539
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't feel very freaked out or on edge or anything until the session and we're gonna edit them and them, and you know, the clips, the highlights, not the whole thing, cuz it'll probably be boring, but you know, nothing like super, I think, uh, substantial, but just kind of a feeling that I got, I kind of got creeped out a little, but then Alan, I don't know.

00:54:27.541 --> 00:54:28.500
<v Speaker 1>How was your experience?

00:54:29.539 --> 00:54:33.300
<v Speaker 2>It, it was, it was actually really, it's really interesting exercise.

00:54:33.780 --> 00:54:33.780
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:54:33.980 --> 00:54:36.460
<v Speaker 2>Cause you're kind of having, you're having a conversation.

00:54:36.650 --> 00:54:36.940
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.699
<v Speaker 2>And you're just in like, I mean, I don't know.

00:54:39.820 --> 00:54:41.699
<v Speaker 2>I, I, I have, I've never done this before.

00:54:41.730 --> 00:54:42.019
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:48.219
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't even have the, uh, privilege of hearing what kind of questions I was supposed to ask.

00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:48.690
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:50.409
<v Speaker 1>He really came into this whole thing blank.

00:54:50.789 --> 00:54:55.570
<v Speaker 2>So I just would hear what you were saying and respond to it.

00:54:56.289 --> 00:55:00.449
<v Speaker 2>Try to ask some follow up questions and keep it kind of ghost themed, you know?

00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:00.929
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:55:01.429 --> 00:55:05.650
<v Speaker 2>We ended up speaking with a very, very old ghost.

00:55:06.269 --> 00:55:07.489
<v Speaker 1>Oh, how old?

00:55:07.969 --> 00:55:10.280
<v Speaker 2>A ghost that predates this hotel.

00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

00:55:10.989 --> 00:55:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Significantly.

00:55:12.630 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 2>A ghost that originates from pan GIA.

00:55:16.940 --> 00:55:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

00:55:17.869 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember saying pan G did I?

00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah,

00:55:21.460 --> 00:55:22.360
<v Speaker 2>We, we got there.

00:55:22.500 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 2>We, we got there.

00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:32.110
<v Speaker 2>Um, and I rich, I was, I asked the ghost name, ghost identified themselves as acres.

00:55:32.699 --> 00:55:32.989
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:55:33.369 --> 00:55:43.469
<v Speaker 2>And so I was addressing this ghost as acres for the entire time, but eventually the ghost got a little upset And I asked, is that really your, like what?

00:55:43.769 --> 00:55:45.590
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, what is your, what is your name?

00:55:46.010 --> 00:55:47.469
<v Speaker 2>And that's when the truth came out.

00:55:47.739 --> 00:55:48.030
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:55:48.530 --> 00:55:48.750
<v Speaker 1>And

00:55:48.750 --> 00:55:51.219
<v Speaker 2>The ghost real name was Benny two.

00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:55.059
<v Speaker 2>The ghost real name was Benny Twost sticks.

00:55:56.150 --> 00:55:57.380
<v Speaker 1>Benny Twost sticks.

00:55:59.380 --> 00:56:00.460
<v Speaker 2>Benny Twost sticks from pan.

00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:01.739
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

00:56:01.969 --> 00:56:04.059
<v Speaker 1>What a normal name from pan G.

00:56:04.570 --> 00:56:04.860
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:05.219
<v Speaker 2>So,

00:56:06.610 --> 00:56:06.900
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:09.099
<v Speaker 2>It was, it was tough.

00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:13.690
<v Speaker 2>So Benny is, is wants our help.

00:56:14.050 --> 00:56:16.610
<v Speaker 2>Cuz I'm gonna say I'm gonna use the pronoun.

00:56:16.869 --> 00:56:17.090
<v Speaker 2>He,

00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:17.730
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:56:18.590 --> 00:56:25.769
<v Speaker 2>So Benny has no physical presence and that's a problem cuz he's very isolated.

00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:26.610
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:56:26.889 --> 00:56:27.409
<v Speaker 1>I can understand.

00:56:27.411 --> 00:56:27.730
<v Speaker 1>Feels

00:56:27.730 --> 00:56:29.130
<v Speaker 2>Very, feels very alone.

00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:29.570
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:56:29.630 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 2>And wants our help, But I don't know.

00:56:32.659 --> 00:56:42.880
<v Speaker 2>He want, he wants help, but I don't know if he wants our help cuz every time I was asking if like how we can help it kind of get, it kind of got deflected okay.

00:56:43.150 --> 00:56:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Into like not you.

00:56:45.829 --> 00:56:47.250
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, okay, interesting.

00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:47.650
<v Speaker 1>Well

00:56:48.889 --> 00:56:49.809
<v Speaker 2>He we're Benny.

00:56:50.059 --> 00:56:51.489
<v Speaker 2>We're the only people here.

00:56:53.099 --> 00:56:55.519
<v Speaker 2>No one else is listening to, to radio static.

00:56:56.699 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 2>So we're what you got.

00:56:58.840 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Um, but I don't know.

00:56:59.730 --> 00:57:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Benny there's lots of laughter.

00:57:01.710 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Um, or humor.

00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I didn't, I didn't laugh.

00:57:04.641 --> 00:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>You remember laughing?

00:57:05.940 --> 00:57:08.159
<v Speaker 2>No, but again you gotta, you gotta read between the wines.

00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay.

00:57:08.521 --> 00:57:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Um, there, there were, there were some humorous moments.

00:57:11.909 --> 00:57:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:57:13.150 --> 00:57:16.590
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and Benny was definitely just like kind of messing around.

00:57:17.010 --> 00:57:17.230
<v Speaker 1>Got

00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:17.389
<v Speaker 2>It.

00:57:17.610 --> 00:57:18.869
<v Speaker 2>But also pretty sad.

00:57:19.429 --> 00:57:19.429
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

00:57:19.489 --> 00:57:22.590
<v Speaker 2>So it was like kind of a, it was a strong dichotomy and like it felt pretty human.

00:57:22.860 --> 00:57:23.150
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:57:23.539 --> 00:57:23.829
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:57:24.349 --> 00:57:38.219
<v Speaker 1>I think one thing too, I wanna point out is that one thing that does happen sometimes in these sessions and again, there's, there's lots of other ghost hunters who have originated this, like the new Kirks, for instance, this isn't something we invented.

00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:46.889
<v Speaker 1>But one thing that happens in these sessions sometimes is that the words will start to describe like what's going, going on.

00:57:47.309 --> 00:57:54.130
<v Speaker 1>So I think that might be something that happened a little bit when I was, uh, asking the questions just with the sirens.

00:57:54.150 --> 00:57:59.610
<v Speaker 1>And there was at one point where it said look around or look back, like literally as I was looking behind me.

00:58:00.469 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 1>So those were like, I think some of the moments that freaked me out a little, because like describing what's actually happening, feel a little heavier, but again, we're gonna kind of edit together some of the highlights and play them for you.

00:58:12.349 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, SIM SIM similarly, similarly, similarly, there was a point where like I was trying to ask some like probing questions and it was, I was just kind of identified as like, you're just asking questions.

00:58:27.610 --> 00:58:27.829
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

00:58:28.250 --> 00:58:31.269
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, oh yeah, that's literally what I'm here for.

00:58:32.130 --> 00:58:34.269
<v Speaker 2>And then Ben told me to look in the mirror.

00:58:34.969 --> 00:58:35.389
<v Speaker 1>Really?

00:58:35.539 --> 00:58:35.829
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:58:36.269 --> 00:58:37.429
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember saying mirror.

00:58:37.820 --> 00:58:38.110
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:58:38.849 --> 00:58:40.710
<v Speaker 2>You gotta read between the lines.

00:58:41.500 --> 00:58:41.789
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:58:41.791 --> 00:58:42.429
<v Speaker 1>You looked in the mirror.

00:58:42.460 --> 00:58:42.750
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:58:42.750 --> 00:58:44.150
<v Speaker 2>I looked in the mirror and it's like, yeah.

00:58:44.150 --> 00:58:45.389
<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, got it.

00:58:45.391 --> 00:58:45.590
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:58:45.730 --> 00:58:46.150
<v Speaker 2>I'm here.

00:58:46.250 --> 00:58:47.190
<v Speaker 2>I'm asking questions.

00:58:47.309 --> 00:58:47.789
<v Speaker 2>I don't see.

00:58:48.489 --> 00:58:48.780
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:58:49.389 --> 00:58:56.219
<v Speaker 2>Benny, you gotta gimme some more and, but Benny wasn't interested cuz Benny was too far away.

00:58:57.099 --> 00:58:57.099
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:58:57.099 --> 00:59:00.139
<v Speaker 2>Benny is not here, which is the tricky bit.

00:59:00.389 --> 00:59:00.739
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:03.059
<v Speaker 2>So I, I don't know.

00:59:03.061 --> 00:59:03.900
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how this works.

00:59:03.980 --> 00:59:04.980
<v Speaker 2>I don't know ghost law.

00:59:05.150 --> 00:59:05.500
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.340
<v Speaker 2>But okay.

00:59:07.340 --> 00:59:07.980
<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna do?

00:59:08.340 --> 00:59:10.489
<v Speaker 2>Benny's two sticks from pan G folks.

00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:15.050
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be here for a lot longer, a lot longer than all week, so,

00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:16.690
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:59:16.690 --> 00:59:22.610
<v Speaker 1>So here are those clips you guys can, can listen back to again, just kind of get the, the sense.

00:59:22.690 --> 00:59:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that either of these sessions sound like they were super, uh, moving, but just so you can get the sense of how it works and then we will check in tomorrow morning after we leave to fill you in.

00:59:33.940 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 1>If we experience anything else for the rest of the night,

00:59:36.340 --> 00:59:38.679
<v Speaker 2>You didn't, you didn't have like a narrative going on.

00:59:40.090 --> 00:59:40.309
<v Speaker 1>No.

00:59:40.860 --> 00:59:41.150
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:59:41.420 --> 00:59:44.670
<v Speaker 2>Just check in cuz I had, you know, I don't know.

00:59:44.769 --> 00:59:48.150
<v Speaker 2>You also have a lot more experience with this process, so,

00:59:48.980 --> 00:59:49.710
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah.

00:59:50.059 --> 01:00:01.820
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've had some sessions with Chris where it felt almost like call response at cemeteries and those are the ones I think that are a little bit unnerving.

01:00:02.210 --> 01:00:02.500
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:10.139
<v Speaker 1>In addition to ones where it's like describing what's going on, like there was actually another one we did at the hell gate bridge in Astoria in queen.

01:00:11.190 --> 01:00:12.969
<v Speaker 1>And it was after dark.

01:00:13.429 --> 01:00:14.849
<v Speaker 2>The is the Hellgate bridge.

01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:17.210
<v Speaker 1>It's a bridge in Queens.

01:00:17.690 --> 01:00:18.170
<v Speaker 2>Oh the Hellgate

01:00:18.170 --> 01:00:18.369
<v Speaker 1>Bridge.

01:00:18.429 --> 01:00:22.449
<v Speaker 1>You should actually listen to the buried secrets podcast because there's lots of episodes about it.

01:00:22.451 --> 01:00:27.059
<v Speaker 1>It's like a very haunted like foot or like train bridge turned into footbridge called the

01:00:27.460 --> 01:00:27.460
<v Speaker 2>Hellgate.

01:00:27.460 --> 01:00:27.739
<v Speaker 2>What do

01:00:27.739 --> 01:00:28.139
<v Speaker 1>You expect?

01:00:28.420 --> 01:00:30.139
<v Speaker 1>I know that's exactly.

01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:31.940
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we were doing the session.

01:00:32.420 --> 01:00:34.380
<v Speaker 1>There's where we filmed that zombie dance movie.

01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:34.900
<v Speaker 1>Oh,

01:00:35.099 --> 01:00:35.099
<v Speaker 2>Gotcha.

01:00:35.250 --> 01:00:35.539
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:50.489
<v Speaker 1>And it was actually very creepy to me because Chris had the, the spirit connected, which is like this radio scanner specifically for this and the blindfold and the headphones.

01:00:50.490 --> 01:00:57.449
<v Speaker 1>And I was asking questions and I was already like a little just freaked out cuz we were at this park at night and it was kind of isolated.

01:00:58.510 --> 01:01:12.079
<v Speaker 1>And Chris kept saying things like, man, look boy, hooded, like as people were walking by us and I wouldn't see the people until Chris said those things and then I would look up and see that they were right there.

01:01:12.659 --> 01:01:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And so that was like unnerving for me, cuz it was almost just like being like somebody, somebody, somebody look, you know?

01:01:18.739 --> 01:01:24.159
<v Speaker 1>And, but again, I was also, you know, it's very complicated to, to figure out and parse these things.

01:01:24.179 --> 01:01:30.429
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we will listen back to this with fresh years when we edit also and see if anything comes up that we didn't notice in the moment.

01:01:31.309 --> 01:01:32.710
<v Speaker 1>Um, but yeah, I guess that's it.

01:01:32.710 --> 01:01:35.869
<v Speaker 1>We'll check in with you guys tomorrow and let you know how the rest of the night went.

01:01:43.619 --> 01:01:43.909
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:01:43.911 --> 01:01:48.739
<v Speaker 2>This is um, this is so hard to talk cuz there's people talking in my ear.

01:01:48.769 --> 01:01:49.940
<v Speaker 1>This is S's method.

01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:51.500
<v Speaker 2>Should I start doing it?

01:01:52.139 --> 01:01:53.179
<v Speaker 2>Give me the thumbs up and I'll

01:01:53.949 --> 01:01:54.300
<v Speaker 1>Hello?

01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:55.579
<v Speaker 1>Is there somebody there with us

01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:56.219
<v Speaker 2>Now?

01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.820
<v Speaker 1>Did you used to come to this hotel?

01:01:59.869 --> 01:02:00.219
<v Speaker 2>Hello?

01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:01.699
<v Speaker 1>Did you stay here?

01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:03.659
<v Speaker 2>One.

01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:05.900
<v Speaker 1>Are you from the vicious circle?

01:02:07.139 --> 01:02:07.489
<v Speaker 2>Taxes?

01:02:08.260 --> 01:02:10.010
<v Speaker 2>Maybe lady.

01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:12.210
<v Speaker 1>What year did you stay here?

01:02:14.030 --> 01:02:14.690
<v Speaker 1>Are you an artist

01:02:16.389 --> 01:02:17.969
<v Speaker 2>And egg?

01:02:20.940 --> 01:02:22.730
<v Speaker 2>Super clean.

01:02:23.340 --> 01:02:24.010
<v Speaker 1>We're just here.

01:02:24.030 --> 01:02:24.889
<v Speaker 1>We love history.

01:02:24.891 --> 01:02:26.210
<v Speaker 1>We wanna talk about you

01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Home.

01:02:28.900 --> 01:02:29.719
<v Speaker 1>We love history.

01:02:29.721 --> 01:02:32.159
<v Speaker 1>We wanna learn more about you and who you are.

01:02:32.369 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Audio.

01:02:33.500 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you can share with us?

01:02:35.190 --> 01:02:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do have audio equipment

01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Here.

01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Switching.

01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:41.170
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we are switching radio stations.

01:02:43.349 --> 01:02:45.969
<v Speaker 2>I'm Everything.

01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:48.480
<v Speaker 2>All right.

01:02:49.710 --> 01:02:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Were you a writer?

01:02:51.539 --> 01:02:51.760
<v Speaker 2>No.

01:02:53.510 --> 01:02:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Want,

01:02:55.349 --> 01:02:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Were you an actor

01:02:57.690 --> 01:02:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Still conversation?

01:03:00.269 --> 01:03:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:03:00.710 --> 01:03:02.519
<v Speaker 1>We'd love to have a conversation with you.

01:03:03.789 --> 01:03:05.170
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us how old you are?

01:03:06.380 --> 01:03:12.519
<v Speaker 2>First VEA Estimate.

01:03:14.099 --> 01:03:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Did you used to come in

01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Bad?

01:03:16.219 --> 01:03:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Did you used to come eat lunch here?

01:03:19.699 --> 01:03:23.500
<v Speaker 2>Big Law.

01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:26.460
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the Algonquin hotel?

01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:28.500
<v Speaker 1>Is it your home?

01:03:30.300 --> 01:03:36.940
<v Speaker 2>I Al supposed nights.

01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.969
<v Speaker 2>I'm take favorite.

01:03:46.019 --> 01:03:51.650
<v Speaker 2>Never felt slow talk.

01:03:53.849 --> 01:03:54.769
<v Speaker 1>Alan is speaking slow.

01:03:55.949 --> 01:03:57.929
<v Speaker 1>Do you enjoy haunting people

01:03:58.840 --> 01:03:59.130
<v Speaker 2>Time?

01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Like C world.

01:04:08.730 --> 01:04:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Would you like to see the world?

01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you wanna travel?

01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Feeling

01:04:13.900 --> 01:04:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Sirens?

01:04:15.900 --> 01:04:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you hear the sirens outside?

01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:19.519
<v Speaker 1>I hear them.

01:04:21.530 --> 01:04:26.829
<v Speaker 2>Power exploring connection.

01:04:28.190 --> 01:04:28.190
<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

01:04:29.690 --> 01:04:34.469
<v Speaker 2>Behind immediate eradication.

01:04:36.469 --> 01:04:36.630
<v Speaker 2>Positive.

01:04:38.139 --> 01:04:38.429
<v Speaker 2>Good.

01:04:39.530 --> 01:04:40.550
<v Speaker 1>Should we be scared?

01:04:41.500 --> 01:04:45.940
<v Speaker 2>Hold arts complete.

01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:48.300
<v Speaker 1>Do you like to, to play?

01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:50.059
<v Speaker 1>Do you like to play in the elevators?

01:04:51.369 --> 01:05:06.650
<v Speaker 2>Nightfall give three better taps opposition, time touch.

01:05:08.369 --> 01:05:14.940
<v Speaker 2>I am not nation immediate.

01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.179
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us more about who you were during your life?

01:05:19.530 --> 01:05:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Grab when easy me,

01:05:31.389 --> 01:05:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Your life was easy.

01:05:33.869 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 1>What was your profession?

01:05:36.909 --> 01:05:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Year lineage here.

01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Hmm?

01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:47.070
<v Speaker 1>You lineage here place.

01:05:48.510 --> 01:05:49.869
<v Speaker 1>Did your family used to stay here?

01:05:50.340 --> 01:05:51.190
<v Speaker 1>Used to come here.

01:05:52.860 --> 01:05:55.389
<v Speaker 2>Appointment living things.

01:05:56.659 --> 01:05:58.829
<v Speaker 2>Time space

01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:00.869
<v Speaker 1>Feels very speed.

01:06:01.309 --> 01:06:03.230
<v Speaker 1>Metaphysical this conversation.

01:06:04.260 --> 01:06:05.269
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm talking now

01:06:06.219 --> 01:06:09.139
<v Speaker 2>Look back first time.

01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:22.980
<v Speaker 2>Horror children, witness sheer sitting, heartbreak, ice fishing.

01:06:32.539 --> 01:06:32.659
<v Speaker 2>All right.

01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:34.500
<v Speaker 2>So Abby is now doing the thing.

01:06:34.789 --> 01:06:37.380
<v Speaker 2>She's listening to the, the ghost talk.

01:06:39.019 --> 01:06:40.610
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'll ask my question

01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:41.130
<v Speaker 1>That

01:06:42.619 --> 01:06:43.260
<v Speaker 2>Uh, miss.

01:06:43.539 --> 01:06:43.780
<v Speaker 2>Oh, sorry.

01:06:44.260 --> 01:06:45.059
<v Speaker 2>Um, are you

01:06:46.260 --> 01:06:46.260
<v Speaker 1>Sun?

01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:47.300
<v Speaker 2>The sun?

01:06:47.900 --> 01:06:48.460
<v Speaker 2>Their ghosts here.

01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:49.179
<v Speaker 2>Are you ghost and

01:06:49.420 --> 01:06:49.460
<v Speaker 1>Hardware?

01:06:50.380 --> 01:06:51.019
<v Speaker 2>Hardware, prayer

01:06:51.690 --> 01:06:52.300
<v Speaker 1>Heartfelt.

01:06:53.090 --> 01:06:53.699
<v Speaker 2>Heartfelt.

01:06:53.701 --> 01:06:53.860
<v Speaker 2>What?

01:06:54.530 --> 01:06:55.179
<v Speaker 2>What do you feel?

01:06:55.380 --> 01:06:55.460
<v Speaker 2>All right,

01:06:56.570 --> 01:06:56.860
<v Speaker 1>Stop.

01:06:57.690 --> 01:06:57.980
<v Speaker 2>Stop.

01:06:57.981 --> 01:06:58.260
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:06:58.929 --> 01:06:59.420
<v Speaker 1>Testify.

01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:01.289
<v Speaker 2>Are you a witness

01:07:02.409 --> 01:07:02.409
<v Speaker 1>To

01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:03.690
<v Speaker 2>Witness to what?

01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:06.730
<v Speaker 2>What did you see Sold?

01:07:07.590 --> 01:07:08.329
<v Speaker 2>You saw a deal.

01:07:08.389 --> 01:07:09.409
<v Speaker 2>You saw a deal go down.

01:07:10.989 --> 01:07:11.769
<v Speaker 2>Was it illicit?

01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:13.130
<v Speaker 1>Love?

01:07:13.550 --> 01:07:14.250
<v Speaker 2>You saw love.

01:07:14.429 --> 01:07:15.690
<v Speaker 2>You saw oh, a love deal.

01:07:15.889 --> 01:07:15.889
<v Speaker 2>Go.

01:07:15.909 --> 01:07:16.489
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see.

01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:18.050
<v Speaker 1>Highest,

01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:20.929
<v Speaker 2>Highest, Highest.

01:07:20.931 --> 01:07:21.210
<v Speaker 2>What

01:07:23.030 --> 01:07:23.150
<v Speaker 1>Mountain?

01:07:24.050 --> 01:07:29.000
<v Speaker 2>The highest mountain Did this take place in the hotel

01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Bathroom.

01:07:34.110 --> 01:07:35.239
<v Speaker 2>What took place in the bathroom?

01:07:37.380 --> 01:07:37.599
<v Speaker 1>Fan?

01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Follow what?

01:07:41.309 --> 01:07:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:07:41.699 --> 01:07:45.949
<v Speaker 2>Are you, Are you, are you in, are you still in this hotel

01:07:48.019 --> 01:07:48.309
<v Speaker 1>Year?

01:07:50.260 --> 01:07:50.550
<v Speaker 2>Year?

01:07:50.619 --> 01:07:51.150
<v Speaker 2>What year

01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:53.550
<v Speaker 1>Offer

01:07:54.900 --> 01:07:55.670
<v Speaker 2>Have you been here?

01:07:55.670 --> 01:07:56.230
<v Speaker 2>A while farm.

01:07:57.869 --> 01:07:58.869
<v Speaker 2>You got an offer on your farm?

01:07:59.610 --> 01:08:00.269
<v Speaker 2>Was it good?

01:08:00.289 --> 01:08:00.989
<v Speaker 2>Was it a good offer?

01:08:00.990 --> 01:08:01.710
<v Speaker 2>Should you have taken?

01:08:01.809 --> 01:08:02.550
<v Speaker 2>Did you take the offer?

01:08:03.860 --> 01:08:09.699
<v Speaker 2>Are, are you a business mogul that didn't buy the farm or did you buy the farm?

01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:11.980
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's how you died.

01:08:11.981 --> 01:08:12.699
<v Speaker 2>Oh, cuz you're a ghost.

01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:13.380
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's wise.

01:08:14.940 --> 01:08:15.500
<v Speaker 1>Honoring,

01:08:16.300 --> 01:08:16.859
<v Speaker 2>Honoring.

01:08:16.860 --> 01:08:17.060
<v Speaker 2>Who?

01:08:17.060 --> 01:08:17.779
<v Speaker 2>Honoring you.

01:08:18.010 --> 01:08:18.659
<v Speaker 2>Were you famous?

01:08:19.949 --> 01:08:20.300
<v Speaker 1>Mercy.

01:08:21.789 --> 01:08:22.140
<v Speaker 2>Mercy.

01:08:23.130 --> 01:08:23.420
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:24.050
<v Speaker 2>So right.

01:08:25.189 --> 01:08:26.289
<v Speaker 2>You were a struggling artist.

01:08:27.390 --> 01:08:30.579
<v Speaker 2>You wanted to be famous, But you didn't make it.

01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:31.060
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:31.739
<v Speaker 2>That's the truth.

01:08:31.739 --> 01:08:32.579
<v Speaker 1>This is special.

01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:36.220
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think this is special too.

01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:37.979
<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

01:08:39.270 --> 01:08:39.619
<v Speaker 1>Acres.

01:08:40.710 --> 01:08:41.060
<v Speaker 2>Acres.

01:08:41.569 --> 01:08:42.699
<v Speaker 2>Nice to meet you acres.

01:08:43.970 --> 01:08:45.130
<v Speaker 2>What are intentions?

01:08:46.710 --> 01:08:47.130
<v Speaker 1>Honest.

01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:48.689
<v Speaker 2>Good.

01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:49.609
<v Speaker 1>Come on.

01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:51.409
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:51.729
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:08:52.250 --> 01:08:54.090
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm going wherever you wanna lead.

01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:55.569
<v Speaker 1>Tell,

01:08:56.909 --> 01:08:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Tell what?

01:08:58.920 --> 01:08:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Begging

01:08:59.779 --> 01:09:00.199
<v Speaker 2>Biking

01:09:00.979 --> 01:09:01.199
<v Speaker 1>You.

01:09:01.989 --> 01:09:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:09:03.970 --> 01:09:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Where are we going?

01:09:06.020 --> 01:09:06.510
<v Speaker 2>This better?

01:09:06.511 --> 01:09:07.350
<v Speaker 2>Not be back to the mountain

01:09:08.899 --> 01:09:09.510
<v Speaker 1>Volunteer.

01:09:11.220 --> 01:09:11.510
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:09:12.699 --> 01:09:14.710
<v Speaker 2>Were you a VO cook?

01:09:15.649 --> 01:09:17.029
<v Speaker 2>Are you volunteering to cook?

01:09:17.409 --> 01:09:18.189
<v Speaker 2>Did you like to cook?

01:09:20.020 --> 01:09:21.579
<v Speaker 1>Calming or common?

01:09:23.890 --> 01:09:24.180
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:09:26.899 --> 01:09:27.579
<v Speaker 1>Saturday night.

01:09:28.970 --> 01:09:29.859
<v Speaker 2>It's Friday night.

01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.140
<v Speaker 2>Did you buy the farm on a Saturday night?

01:09:35.939 --> 01:09:37.060
<v Speaker 2>Do you even care about your death?

01:09:39.029 --> 01:09:40.329
<v Speaker 2>Was that a big event for you

01:09:42.739 --> 01:09:43.090
<v Speaker 1>Later?

01:09:43.550 --> 01:09:43.770
<v Speaker 1>Two.

01:09:46.229 --> 01:09:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:09:47.329 --> 01:09:48.399
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that later.

01:09:49.260 --> 01:09:49.880
<v Speaker 2>But acres.

01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:52.439
<v Speaker 2>I love that you have good intentions.

01:09:53.390 --> 01:09:56.479
<v Speaker 2>What if we had to leave here with one thing?

01:09:57.310 --> 01:09:57.880
<v Speaker 2>What would it be?

01:09:58.500 --> 01:09:59.550
<v Speaker 1>You can at that

01:10:00.890 --> 01:10:03.829
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to do I already have the answer.

01:10:04.930 --> 01:10:07.829
<v Speaker 2>Do I just have to realize it or have you not shared it yet?

01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:10.270
<v Speaker 1>Enjoy.

01:10:11.750 --> 01:10:12.750
<v Speaker 2>I know this is pretty fun.

01:10:14.180 --> 01:10:14.829
<v Speaker 1>Play the game.

01:10:15.369 --> 01:10:16.270
<v Speaker 2>That's why we're here.

01:10:17.140 --> 01:10:18.869
<v Speaker 1>Begging, begging you.

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:22.739
<v Speaker 2>Oh, is this getting serious acres

01:10:23.699 --> 01:10:25.460
<v Speaker 1>And me power,

01:10:26.590 --> 01:10:26.939
<v Speaker 2>Power

01:10:28.899 --> 01:10:33.260
<v Speaker 1>While we are plus another addition.

01:10:34.739 --> 01:10:37.260
<v Speaker 2>Give me a lot here, but I don't know what to make of it.

01:10:38.539 --> 01:10:39.939
<v Speaker 2>I need a more simple idea.

01:10:40.329 --> 01:10:44.329
<v Speaker 2>You, If you were to sum up this idea in one word, what would it be?

01:10:45.789 --> 01:10:46.539
<v Speaker 1>Could be you.

01:10:48.609 --> 01:10:49.210
<v Speaker 1>Hmm, I got,

01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:51.329
<v Speaker 2>What do you need from us

01:10:51.329 --> 01:10:51.770
<v Speaker 1>Already?

01:10:52.909 --> 01:10:54.010
<v Speaker 2>How can we help you

01:10:54.609 --> 01:10:54.609
<v Speaker 1>Grow?

01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:55.449
<v Speaker 1>Proceed?

01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:57.170
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

01:10:59.149 --> 01:10:59.930
<v Speaker 2>How can we help you?

01:10:59.989 --> 01:11:00.369
<v Speaker 1>New York.

01:11:01.819 --> 01:11:02.800
<v Speaker 2>That's where we are.

01:11:03.630 --> 01:11:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Your arms.

01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh, snap.

01:11:06.440 --> 01:11:06.640
<v Speaker 2>It

01:11:07.829 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Aligned.

01:11:09.229 --> 01:11:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Aligned.

01:11:10.750 --> 01:11:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Take your time.

01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you've given me a puzzle here.

01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:16.550
<v Speaker 1>Don't wanna see.

01:11:18.210 --> 01:11:21.149
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to see, but you don't wanna see

01:11:22.229 --> 01:11:22.579
<v Speaker 1>There

01:11:23.789 --> 01:11:24.140
<v Speaker 2>Acres.

01:11:24.210 --> 01:11:24.500
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:11:24.819 --> 01:11:25.939
<v Speaker 2>We're we're we're off track here.

01:11:26.140 --> 01:11:26.140
<v Speaker 2>Hello?

01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:28.659
<v Speaker 2>Is that not your name?

01:11:28.899 --> 01:11:28.899
<v Speaker 2>You're

01:11:28.899 --> 01:11:29.020
<v Speaker 1>Right.

01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:31.340
<v Speaker 2>That's the mirror

01:11:32.369 --> 01:11:32.859
<v Speaker 1>Looking?

01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:34.619
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking in the mirror.

01:11:34.729 --> 01:11:35.579
<v Speaker 2>What should I see?

01:11:36.060 --> 01:11:36.739
<v Speaker 2>I see myself

01:11:38.020 --> 01:11:38.579
<v Speaker 1>Twilight

01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:42.380
<v Speaker 2>Way past Twilight, but she loves that movie.

01:11:43.130 --> 01:11:43.130
<v Speaker 1>Capone

01:11:44.489 --> 01:11:44.689
<v Speaker 2>Al cap.

01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:45.449
<v Speaker 2>What?

01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:47.409
<v Speaker 1>Very excited.

01:11:49.810 --> 01:11:51.010
<v Speaker 2>You're just you're you're messing with us.

01:11:51.011 --> 01:11:51.449
<v Speaker 2>Aren't you?

01:11:53.579 --> 01:11:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a physical presence here?

01:11:56.390 --> 01:11:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

01:11:57.090 --> 01:11:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Alone.

01:11:59.300 --> 01:11:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You're alone.

01:12:01.260 --> 01:12:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming that means you don't

01:12:06.369 --> 01:12:06.529
<v Speaker 1>Remember.

01:12:07.850 --> 01:12:07.850
<v Speaker 4>Yeah,

01:12:07.949 --> 01:12:08.369
<v Speaker 1>You are.

01:12:09.430 --> 01:12:13.130
<v Speaker 2>Can you give some kind of physical men?

01:12:13.529 --> 01:12:13.810
<v Speaker 1>I know.

01:12:15.489 --> 01:12:18.020
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was just wondering if there's anything you can do.

01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:19.579
<v Speaker 2>Can you like move anything in the room

01:12:20.569 --> 01:12:21.180
<v Speaker 1>Navigator?

01:12:22.210 --> 01:12:23.390
<v Speaker 2>Are you trying to get somewhere?

01:12:23.729 --> 01:12:25.550
<v Speaker 2>Do you wanna, are you trapped in this place?

01:12:27.010 --> 01:12:31.909
<v Speaker 2>Are you trapped in this hotel Or, or can you leave freely?

01:12:32.590 --> 01:12:33.729
<v Speaker 2>You're trapped here tonight?

01:12:34.949 --> 01:12:35.170
<v Speaker 2>No.

01:12:35.171 --> 01:12:35.369
<v Speaker 2>No.

01:12:35.371 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Just can you leave the, his space

01:12:37.109 --> 01:12:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Help?

01:12:39.020 --> 01:12:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Aha.

01:12:39.630 --> 01:12:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:12:40.739 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 2>How can we help you?

01:12:42.180 --> 01:12:44.800
<v Speaker 1>If it's not you?

01:12:46.220 --> 01:12:47.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's not.

01:12:47.260 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm real.

01:12:48.779 --> 01:12:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to help you.

01:12:50.801 --> 01:12:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Just gotta tell me what you need us to do.

01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:54.359
<v Speaker 1>All right.

01:12:55.529 --> 01:12:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

01:12:58.289 --> 01:12:58.670
<v Speaker 2>I'm here.

01:12:58.810 --> 01:12:59.430
<v Speaker 2>You're here

01:13:01.500 --> 01:13:01.989
<v Speaker 1>Divided.

01:13:03.329 --> 01:13:06.859
<v Speaker 2>Can you Come here?

01:13:08.689 --> 01:13:09.109
<v Speaker 1>New York?

01:13:10.890 --> 01:13:12.029
<v Speaker 2>Are you in this space?

01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:18.590
<v Speaker 1>Feels, want another city?

01:13:20.069 --> 01:13:20.859
<v Speaker 2>Don't blame you.

01:13:22.270 --> 01:13:23.539
<v Speaker 2>Grass is always greener.

01:13:24.979 --> 01:13:26.619
<v Speaker 1>I can't move.

01:13:28.060 --> 01:13:28.060
<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:30.100
<v Speaker 2>Can we help you move?

01:13:32.289 --> 01:13:36.699
<v Speaker 1>Shop, find phone dancing.

01:13:38.180 --> 01:13:38.180
<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

01:13:38.989 --> 01:13:40.409
<v Speaker 2>Where were you originally from?

01:13:41.750 --> 01:13:43.090
<v Speaker 2>Is that where you're trying to get back to

01:13:44.449 --> 01:13:45.050
<v Speaker 1>One, one

01:13:46.210 --> 01:13:46.489
<v Speaker 2>Pan G

01:13:47.989 --> 01:13:48.210
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:50.090
<v Speaker 2>Holy cow.

01:13:50.470 --> 01:13:51.409
<v Speaker 2>You're an old ghost.

01:13:52.899 --> 01:13:53.569
<v Speaker 1>Retirement.

01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:54.930
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:13:55.109 --> 01:13:56.170
<v Speaker 2>I'd say you're about that.

01:13:56.750 --> 01:13:57.609
<v Speaker 2>You've earned that.

01:13:58.770 --> 01:13:59.449
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any crickets

01:14:00.420 --> 01:14:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Guitar?

01:14:01.569 --> 01:14:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Music?

01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:14:05.979 --> 01:14:06.880
<v Speaker 2>How can we help with that

01:14:07.149 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Step?

01:14:09.380 --> 01:14:09.880
<v Speaker 1>My name?

01:14:10.869 --> 01:14:11.840
<v Speaker 2>What is your name again?

01:14:13.210 --> 01:14:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Benny.

01:14:14.409 --> 01:14:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Benny waters.

01:14:16.970 --> 01:14:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Benny waters.

01:14:19.149 --> 01:14:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Thought it was acres.

01:14:21.670 --> 01:14:22.270
<v Speaker 1>It's two sticks.

01:14:23.449 --> 01:14:24.029
<v Speaker 2>Two sticks.

01:14:25.590 --> 01:14:26.310
<v Speaker 2>Benny two sticks.

01:14:28.250 --> 01:14:29.140
<v Speaker 2>It's a great name.

01:14:33.090 --> 01:14:33.710
<v Speaker 1>See'em through?

01:14:35.699 --> 01:14:35.989
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:14:36.579 --> 01:14:36.869
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:14:37.989 --> 01:14:39.109
<v Speaker 2>That been a great chat.

01:14:39.470 --> 01:14:42.100
<v Speaker 2>I gotta say it's it's been a play to meet you.

01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:43.220
<v Speaker 1>You say?

01:14:43.770 --> 01:14:44.060
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:45.819
<v Speaker 1>Yo

01:14:47.260 --> 01:14:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Yo

01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Check.

01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Check.

01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:52.000
<v Speaker 1>All right.

01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:53.039
<v Speaker 2>All right.

01:14:54.819 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 1>You're not

01:14:56.229 --> 01:14:56.520
<v Speaker 2>What

01:14:57.619 --> 01:14:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Cooper?

01:14:58.859 --> 01:14:59.640
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not Cooper.

01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:01.239
<v Speaker 2>What would you think?

01:15:01.260 --> 01:15:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm Cooper

01:15:01.979 --> 01:15:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Ask.

01:15:03.899 --> 01:15:04.189
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:15:04.350 --> 01:15:05.029
<v Speaker 2>I'm the, okay.

01:15:05.030 --> 01:15:05.189
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

01:15:05.329 --> 01:15:05.829
<v Speaker 2>I'm the ask.

01:15:06.170 --> 01:15:07.029
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm doing.

01:15:08.310 --> 01:15:08.310
<v Speaker 1>Trunk.

01:15:09.350 --> 01:15:09.350
<v Speaker 2>Trunk.

01:15:09.539 --> 01:15:09.829
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:15:10.109 --> 01:15:10.750
<v Speaker 2>We're getting off topic.

01:15:10.859 --> 01:15:11.630
<v Speaker 2>This has been great.

01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:12.430
<v Speaker 2>Great chat.

01:15:13.670 --> 01:15:16.539
<v Speaker 2>Benny twos sticks until the next time.

01:15:26.369 --> 01:15:26.659
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:35.050
<v Speaker 1>So it is the next morning we successfully survived the night at the Algonquin and now we are back in our own own space.

01:15:36.069 --> 01:15:39.329
<v Speaker 1>And I will say we didn't have any crazy paranormal experiences.

01:15:39.750 --> 01:15:44.569
<v Speaker 1>No, I did see a weird footprint in the bathroom after I showered.

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<v Speaker 2>That was true.

01:15:45.909 --> 01:15:49.010
<v Speaker 2>So you got outta the shower before, before you step outta the shower.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:15:49.590 --> 01:15:51.729
<v Speaker 2>You see a wet footprint in the middle of the floor.

01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:52.369
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:15:52.371 --> 01:15:58.479
<v Speaker 1>So from where I was in the shower, I could see a footprint which was, looked like a wet footprint.

01:15:59.010 --> 01:16:02.560
<v Speaker 1>There was two weird things because a, I had not gotten out the shower yet.

01:16:02.619 --> 01:16:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And B it was like going out of the room, you know, like exiting the room, which was not a place I had stood.

01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I had just walked into the room to go into the shower, you know?

01:16:13.280 --> 01:16:17.670
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't like it was picking up a weird pattern from before I got in the shower.

01:16:18.529 --> 01:16:21.510
<v Speaker 1>And then it, as soon as I saw it, it wa it disappeared pretty quickly.

01:16:21.609 --> 01:16:27.229
<v Speaker 1>So I tried, I took some photos where you can see it, but it was like very prominent when I first saw it.

01:16:27.250 --> 01:16:28.750
<v Speaker 1>And then it disappeared pretty quickly.

01:16:29.729 --> 01:16:35.510
<v Speaker 2>So it was almost like when you walk around with like wet socks, you know, when

01:16:35.510 --> 01:16:37.060
<v Speaker 1>You walk ground with wet socks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:42.020
<v Speaker 2>So you, you know, you're in boots and then you take off the boots and you're walking around on a hardwood floor.

01:16:42.130 --> 01:16:43.979
<v Speaker 2>It's just that like little layer of moisture.

01:16:44.369 --> 01:16:46.420
<v Speaker 2>It's not like a sopping wet something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

01:16:47.460 --> 01:16:49.140
<v Speaker 2>I mean, anyway, it's a little suspicious.

01:16:49.449 --> 01:16:50.340
<v Speaker 1>It's a little suspicious.

01:16:50.341 --> 01:16:50.579
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:16:50.939 --> 01:16:55.020
<v Speaker 1>I took pictures because Allen was out picking up something at the time.

01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:57.689
<v Speaker 1>And so I wanted to prove Tim so I can post those.

01:16:57.750 --> 01:17:01.729
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's hard to say, cuz like, I don't know how all of that works.

01:17:01.829 --> 01:17:08.770
<v Speaker 1>If somebody had maybe stepped there before, if you know the condensation of the shower, like I don't know.

01:17:08.770 --> 01:17:11.810
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that it disappeared made it feel a little spooky,

01:17:11.930 --> 01:17:12.529
<v Speaker 2>A little spooky.

01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:13.369
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:17:13.371 --> 01:17:14.050
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing else.

01:17:14.170 --> 01:17:14.529
<v Speaker 1>I will say.

01:17:14.609 --> 01:17:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I had a very like troubled sleep, this same way that I had at the Bowery where I kept kind of like waking up with a start over and over again.

01:17:22.659 --> 01:17:30.279
<v Speaker 1>But again, no like real apparition, you know, nothing to be like, oh man, that was like, the Bowery felt spookier to me in a way.

01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I, I just overall slept terribly.

01:17:33.510 --> 01:17:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:35.439
<v Speaker 2>I think that was the pillows though.

01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:39.670
<v Speaker 1>The pillows were really huge, like impossible to be comfortable.

01:17:39.850 --> 01:17:40.949
<v Speaker 1>The bed was really comfortable.

01:17:40.951 --> 01:17:42.789
<v Speaker 1>The pillows were too big anyway.

01:17:42.930 --> 01:17:46.310
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that was our haunted stay at the Algonquin.

01:17:46.310 --> 01:17:59.899
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, even though we didn't have any super wild paranormal experiences, the history of the hotel is still really cool and the staff was incredibly nice and they all, you know of talk about the history very freely.

01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:00.979
<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

01:18:00.980 --> 01:18:04.220
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys again so much for being here episode 100.

01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.659
<v Speaker 1>So excited to be able to do something a little bit special for that.

01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:14.579
<v Speaker 1>And hopefully we will get out to some of the big hitting heavy, you know, heavy haunted hotels at some point in the future

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<v Speaker 2>Until next time

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<v Speaker 1>Stay spooky, stay safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye.