Steve Hilton sits down with Conan Nolan

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Speaker 1: And we continue at one five in the afternoon on The John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Weggs in Culver City.

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Speaker 2: John in his thirty minute sit down interview with Ashley Zabala, Tom Steyer is asked how we can guarantee he will be a good steward of all the extra tax money he wants to bring in.

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Speaker 3: There is a national conversation about government waste and fraud. You're talking about a lot of use of taxpayer money, potentially billions from closing these corporate loopholes. I mean, what will you do to protect these dollars and make sure they're efficient?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's a very fair question nationally. I really do, because I think if you're going to be the governor and people are going to pay their hard earned money in taxes, you have an absolute responsibility to steward that money carefully. And so I'll start by saying this. You can ask my wife, I am the cheapest person you've ever met.

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Speaker 2: Vote for Tom Steyer, cheap bastard billionaire.

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Speaker 1: Imagine being married to a billionaire and you're ordering a Hamburger for lunch and the waitress goes, would you like cheese on that and you go yes, and then Hobby kicks you under the table and is shaking his head.

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Speaker 2: What do you think cheap bastard styre tips at restaurants?

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's got to be an awful tipper.

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Speaker 2: Do you think when they have the suggestions for the fifteen, the eighteen, and the twenty two, he goes for the fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Or nothing at all?

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Speaker 2: Oh you think he stiffs them?

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Speaker 1: Well, there are plenty of rich people and famous people who don't think that they should have to pay for anything, or they just walk out of the restaurant without going into their wallet at all.

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Speaker 2: Sty are you ever dining dashed?

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Speaker 4: You can ask my wife. I am the cheapest person you've ever met.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he flies private or commercial, because when you're talking to a billionaire, most of them fly private. So if he forces them to buy first class tickets on commercial airlines, I'm sure that's him regarding himself as being cheap.

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Speaker 2: Economy plus, how about that extra legroom, Tommy?

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you work in aviation, professional aviation and you've ever flown him on a private flight, email us at Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. If you're a flight attendant or a pilot and he's ever been on one of your flights, I would like to know if he was in first class or coach, and you can email us at Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. Now call us.

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Speaker 2: According to the internets and the robots that are running Google now, Tom Steyer, when he was running for president, said I refuse to fly private, And apparently in of twenty eleven Forbes profile, he said he loves to fly Economy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what airline?

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Speaker 2: Well, they weren't that clear, because if.

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Speaker 1: You're traveling around California and you don't mind flying economy, that's Southwest. They're the only ones that'll take you from, for example, Ontario to Sacramento or San Diego to Oakland. And I can't imagine a billionaire putting themselves through that gauntlet of abuse.

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Speaker 2: Well, he wouldn't be the only gubernatorial candidate known to fly Southwest.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right. We got that clip from when she busted into the cockpit demanding the votes of the pilots.

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Speaker 2: She bragged about how she bothered everybody on a flight to Sacramento to vote for her, and she got five votes out of the one hundred and eighty passengers.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't believe politicians, but when she says that she harassed everyone on that plane, I believe her. Sorry for the noise, I'm cutting carrots now. Speaking of the race for governor, we know that Conan Nolan of NBC four in Los Angeles is doing sit down interviews with many of the top candidates who are running for that office, and one that aired recently Randy was with Republican Steve Hilton.

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Speaker 2: Here is Conan in Hilton. It aired Sunday morning on NBC four's news conference Welcome Back.

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Speaker 5: Joining us now is Steve Hilton, a candidate for governor of California. Prior to that, he was in Silicon Valley as a tech entra.

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Speaker 2: Conan Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley is Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: And parts of South Coast Plaza.

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Speaker 5: A candidate for governor of California. Prior to that, he was in Silicon Valley as a tech entrepreneur. Before that, a Fox News host, Actually you're a Fox News host. Later yep, worked for David Cameron, who is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom now a US citizen and a candidate. Thank you very much for joining us. Great to be So you're leading a lot of the polls. So we're going to get to some of the issues. But first, let me talk a little politics.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's posit here for a second. This is apropole of nothing related to this interview. But if you live in Silicon Valley, when people call it Silicone Valley, do you correct them? Eight hundred two to two two five two two two. Okay, go back to it.

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Speaker 2: Phones are going to blow up.

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Speaker 5: You've been trying to talk Chad Bianco, the Riverside County sheriff, who's also a Republican, into dropping out of the race to solidify I guess the Republican base around you.

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Speaker 6: Why is that?

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Speaker 7: So we've got to start from the point that I think so many people agree with everyone watching I think will agree, which.

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Speaker 6: Is it's time for change in California.

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Speaker 7: We've had sixteen years of one party rule by the Democrats, and what are the results.

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Speaker 6: We've got the highest cost.

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Speaker 7: Of living in America, highest gas prices, electric rent, insurance, everything off the charts.

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Speaker 1: We're number one something to brag about.

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Speaker 7: The highest poverty rate, we're number one, the highest unemployment rate, the worst business climate, on and on. It's obviously time for change now if you look at this top two system that we have in California. Yes, it's true that I'm leading in the polls, and I'm very happy about that, leading in fundraising, winning the TV debates.

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Speaker 6: That's all good.

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Speaker 7: But actually it's a possibility that rather than having a real choice in the general election in November, the people of California might be faced with two Democrats.

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Speaker 2: This is completely different when everyone else is saying, Okay, I think he's a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit paranoid about this, because the number one scenario of two members of the same party making it to the November ballot is two Republicans. That is far more likely than two Democrats making the November ballot. And I understand that he and Bianco are both work in the same corner, so their rivals, so you don't want to say anything good about arrival. But for California Republicans whose names are not Chad Bianco or Steve Hilton, the best case scenario is to have them both on the November ballot, because when you look at this field of candidates, there are only four of them that are even remotely talking about California issues. The two Republicans Bianco and Hilton, and two Democrats, Mayhan and via Rigosa, And so far Mayhan and via Rigosa haven't polled in the top two yet. So if you want a candidate who's going to talk about California subjects and we'll take the state in a different direction, the best case scenario is having Bianco and Hilton, and you don't get that if Bianco drops out of the race. You need them both in. And what you need is you need Republican voters to come as close as possible to splitting their vote between the two of them, which.

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Speaker 6: Means there's no chance of change. And the reason for that.

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Speaker 7: Is the Republican vote is currently being split between me and Chad Bianco.

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Speaker 6: So my argument is.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want he want to buy into the Republican on Republican fantasy.

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Speaker 1: And let me tell you, like other fantasies that is all over the internet.

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Speaker 7: To make sure we have a chance for change in California, we've got to get behind the strongest Republican candidate, and that's me.

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Speaker 5: Let's get into that you say they want change. The voters of the state overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly, just a few months ago voted for Proposition fifty to reapportion the districts of California so that we got five more Democratic seats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a blowout. They decided that went on election night.

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Speaker 1: But here's the difference. Though, that was framed as a federal election that was only dealing with federal offices, members of the Congress. It had nothing to do with members of the state legislature and nothing to do with state politics. That had to do with what was going on in Washington, DC, and the state voted against Trump three times. So if you frame it that way, we know what the results are going to be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a message to Donald Trump and Washington DC. You believe that millions of voters will change their mind a few months later and say, you know what, we were wrong, We should support a pro Trump Republican for governor.

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Speaker 7: Well, that election wasn't about gas prices, it wasn't about electric bills, it wasn't about the rent U pay what you pay for groceries, all these practical things that are making life so hot for regular Californias. For everyone watching, who's really struggling small business owners like I used to be.

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Speaker 6: I used to run restaurants.

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Speaker 7: You go and talk to restaurant owners in California today, it's a nightmare. And so that's what this election will be about, not some argument about districts that doesn't really relate to people's daily lives.

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Speaker 2: Oh, don't you worry. If it's a Republican versus Democrat, they will make every single thing about it a national issue.

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Speaker 1: Well, and this is also part of it, because I do not believe that Democratic voters are willing to change their voting patterns even in a state election. I think that they are consumed with their hatred for Donald Trump and they can't get beyond that, Which is why we have to take advantage of this top two primary unless it ed till one of those Democratic candidates who's talking about California issues starts to break away from the pack and starts to well, this is our only option at any kind of reform in California, having two Republicans, and we can do that without Democratic voters signing on. They just have to split their votes enough to where Bianco and Hilton can finish in the top two.

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Speaker 7: That's why this is different. This year is different, and it's not going to be about Trump. It's not going to be about any of those things.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be No, it'll still be about Trump.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what the top three Democratic candidates are talking about, and that's why you have the two who are talking about California issues lagging behind them, because they think, as Steve Hilton does, that people Democratic voters care about state and local issues. I've seen no evidence of that.

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Speaker 2: Here's the most common thing that we've seen from every single poll. Most people don't even know there's an election happening because they're so focused it's done, what's going on nationally and internationally.

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Speaker 1: Well, when I talk to friends of mine who are Democratic voters about the problems in California, I pretty much get the same answer from all of them, which is they acknowledge that crime is a mess. They acknowledge that homelessness is a mess. They acknowledge that the state looks dirty. They acknowledge that the high speed rail is a complete disaster, they acknowledge that we've screwed up the insurance market in this state. But they won't change the way that they're voting because they regard themselves as partisan Democrats. Well, you can complain about it all you want. If you don't change the way you vote, you're not going to get a different result. So they're not offended enough to change how they vote, and in lessen until they're offended enough to change how they vote, you're going to have to figure out how to fix the state without them, because they're not going to help you.

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Speaker 7: It's going to be about who will make the changes to cut the bloat and the bureaucracy corruption in our government so we can cut taxes and cut costs for everyone in California.

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Speaker 2: Right, it is about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump dominates the political landscape and he has for the past ten years. That's what that vote of Proposition fifty was. And the governor has gone out of his way to be the leader of the opposition. This governor, right now, would you welcome immigration Customs enforcement to continue interior enforcement in the cities of California.

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Speaker 6: So, I'm a legal immigrant, and I've said very clearly.

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Speaker 2: He's British, so I know sometimes it's hard to tell. He said he is a legal immigrant.

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Speaker 1: Starting with an L.

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Speaker 7: So I'm a legal immigrant, and I've said very clearly, I'm the candidate of the legal immigrant community.

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Speaker 6: For the legal immigrant community.

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Speaker 7: My parents were refugees from communism in Hungary. Both my parents are Hungarian. I grew up in a working class household, in an immigrant household in the UK.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm an immigrant here.

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Speaker 7: I'm one hundred percent in favor of legal immigration. But the other thing we have to look at is that right now in California, we have the highest unemployment rate in the country. So it doesn't make sense to me that we say, let's import all these cheap foreign workers when we've got millions of Californians who are not working. We're paying them welfare, which is costing taxpayers a fortune. Something's not right in the way we've been handling this is.

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Speaker 5: How many of those of those unemployed Californians do you think would take a job in the farm fields of the Central Valley picking zero?

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Speaker 1: Well, that is a question, by the way, that I think is going to be resolved by technology. I think in very short order, there's going to be zero people out there picking those fruits and picking those vegetables and dealing with the nuts and everything else, because AI is going to take over all of those monotonous, repetitive jobs.

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Speaker 2: And Steve Hilton would agree with you.

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Speaker 6: So I well, a couple of things.

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Speaker 7: So, first of all, if I was up with a dairy farm, for example, up near Modesta in the Central.

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Speaker 6: Valley, a couple of months ago, go nuts.

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Speaker 7: Talking to the farm workers there, the dairy workers, they were pointing out that their girlfriends make more money on welfare than they do.

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Speaker 1: Wait, so the girlfriends are on welfare. That's why they're working at the dairy.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're not married, because if you're married, then you don't get that welfare.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, if you're not married though, So they're on the welfare and you're working at the dairy, So you're living in sin, correct.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're milking the cows. She's milking the system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the saying, Why buy the cow if you get the milk for free.

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Speaker 7: Talking to the farm workers there, the dairy workers, they were pointing out that their girlfriends make more money on welfare than they do. And that doesn't make sense that we're paying people so much money that they don't want to what I spoke to a construction worker at.

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Speaker 1: This Okay, if you are the girlfriend of a guy who works at the dairy and your sole purpose in life, your sole income comes from welfare. How many tattoos do you think that they have on their cleavage? Just give me a ballpark number five, we'll go with that.

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Speaker 7: The State Fair in Sacramento. So he's been laid off because the employers are now hiring illegal immigrant workers that they don't have to pay healthcare.

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Speaker 6: They don't have to pay all these costs.

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Speaker 2: We don't even hire naturalized carnies.

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Speaker 7: They don't have to pay all these costs, don't have to pay proper taxes. That is not fair to regular California's automation in the farming industry is going to make.

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Speaker 6: A huge difference.

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Speaker 2: I think that's something. By the way, you'd have to change state law. The Farm Workers Unit has made it so right now it is illegal to have farming robots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think the name Caesar Chavez is a name that doesn't carry the weight that it used to carry.

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Speaker 7: I was at the World ag Expo in Tallarry just the other week. It's amazing what is happening in terms of picking the crops.

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Speaker 6: That's the thing.

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Speaker 7: Nancy Pelosi said, Who's gonna pick our crops if we don't have a legal immigration.

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Speaker 6: The answer I saw it for myself.

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Speaker 7: Automation is taking care of that in five years, just your way.

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Speaker 2: You you know what, This is definitely the way the world is going to work. But you think the unions are gonna sit down and just take this. They're gonna find a way to unionize the robots.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna fight it tooth the deal. But it's just gonna be everywhere you go. It's gonna be robots at clean hotel rooms. It's gonna be robots preparing food. It's gonna be robots and AI doing all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: In the next decade, thirty percent of jobs could be gone.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be more than that.

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Speaker 6: Is taking care of that.

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Speaker 7: In five years, most of that farm work will be automated.

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Speaker 8: Moving on to housing was about measures that sounded like an edit conan, give me the full club, buddy, put those raw unedited interviews like Zavala is doing.

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Speaker 2: That's what I listened to when I do my meal prep.

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Speaker 5: Moving on to housing was about measure. Now, there's a state law signed by the governor, passed barely by the legislature which bigfoots local control over zoning when it comes to housing at transit stops and are on transit corridors.

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Speaker 2: That's SB seventy nine, Oh mine, Did you support that bill?

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Speaker 7: No, I'm strongly against it. I'm strongly against this ideology that we've had from the Democrats, which says that the only thing that you're allowed to build basically in California is apartment buildings. We can only build upwards, we can't build outwards. I'm on the road the whole time in California. There are so many places that want to build, that want to build single family homes to restore that California dream, an.

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Speaker 6: Ice house with a yard where your kids can play.

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Speaker 7: We don't want to be shoved into boxes like this is New York on Miami. That's not California. It's anti California. And it's this climate ideology that's driving it.

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Speaker 5: There's an effort to put on the babbot.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine, by the way, living in some of that multi use housing where there's a seven to eleven on the ground floor and you're up somewhere in the sky, and then some pack of teams decides they're going to steal a Kia and drive right through the front wall of your building.

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Speaker 2: You know there's a building I've driven past it a few times in Sherman Oaks where it's an apartment building that's on top of a Trader Joe's. And while that sounds like the most convenient thing of all time, you're never ever ever going to sleep because of all the parking disputes that are going to happen in that lot.

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Speaker 1: It's a wake up call of sorts.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Steve Hilton running for Governor.

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Speaker 1: So we know that drones are used by perverts to spy on nude sun bathers. We know that drones are used by insurance companies to drop you from your policy. But in San Francisco, drones are now being used to fight crime.

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Speaker 2: And it's working. For more on this, we go to ABC seven and they're building a better Bay Area. Reporter Leanne Melendez.

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Speaker 9: Francisco continues to see a decline in crime, which is partially attributed to the adoption of new technologies like drones.

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Speaker 10: Now, some say they're an invasion of privacy.

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Speaker 2: Police say, yeah, you know who says that public defenders and criminals. I'm sorry. In twenty twenty six, nobody can claim that they care about their privacy anymore. We all have a phone that is an active listening device in our pockets, listening to every single word that we say. I bet you right now. So if you opened up your Instagram, you'd see ads for Planter's Peanuts.

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Speaker 10: Now some say they're an invasion of privacy. Police say they're effective at capturing criminals, are building a better Bay Area. Reporter land, what is here with the impact and you could see both sides of the situation.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but remember that people in San Francisco wanted this. They wanted the drones. Now police say it's not only about law enforcement. The drones also assist.

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Speaker 2: Other fst You guys got to squeak that chair that sounds like my old chair. Get a little WD forty in there.

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Speaker 9: The drones also assist other first responders like firefighters and rescue teams. But some is this that it's one more example that we are living in Orwell's nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 1: Oh we're well past it. Oh yeah, that book didn't know the half of it.

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Speaker 2: That book didn't know that we would willingly post every detail about our lives online incess.

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Speaker 1: Including what items we eat.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: How was the salmon last night?

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Speaker 2: It was good?

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Speaker 4: Stop.

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Speaker 11: One of the suspects jumped a fence into a residential backyard and was quickly apprehended.

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Speaker 2: These are videos that they're showing us that are on the sfpds official social media. They're doing drune cops and it's great footage.

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Speaker 1: Well with the obesity rate in the state, how does anyone get away?

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Speaker 6: Stop? Stop running?

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Speaker 9: It could be any police show on television.

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Speaker 4: Up on the board.

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Speaker 11: One of the suspects climbed over the center divide and ran on the southbound lanes of traffic of one oh one before officers tackled him to the ground and took him into custody.

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Speaker 2: Do they also have AI narrating these things?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's it's either a robot or the spawn of Barber Farrara, but it's.

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Speaker 9: Happening in San Francisco. This is the Real Time Investigation Center operated by San Francisco Police now.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you're wondering what that looks like, it looks exactly like the batcave.

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Speaker 9: All of the video that you saw there was put together and eventually posted on social media. But before we get into any more details, let's recap how we got here. In twenty seventeen, San Francisco was at the height of a car break in crisis.

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Speaker 2: I remember, Oh, yes, I think that ret's around then when the term bipping was invented.

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Speaker 12: I've been bipped several times.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we heard.

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Speaker 9: About that, with twenty eight thousand reports. Retail theft was also escalating between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty three. Numerous surveys found that most San Francisco skins believed that crime was among the top troubling issues making them feel less safe. Police argued they didn't have all the tools to help catch people committing retail thefts in the act. For example, police are not allowed to monitor cameras perched on a building in real time on a constant basis twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 2: That seems like a stupid way to use technology.

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Speaker 1: You can only use it after the crime occurs.

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Speaker 2: This was what was law in San Francisco before that city got its head put on straight.

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Speaker 9: Listen to this twenty twenty one interview with my colleague Phil mattiras he interviews former police chief Bill Scott.

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Speaker 2: Bill Scott, who abandoned the SFPD to go run the La Metro Police Department, how's that working out for him? Well, it still doesn't exist, so I don't know what he does all day.

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Speaker 13: So if there's a camera perched up on Union Square that's showing live what's going on in apostible Swarm, you can't watch it in real timel like on a weekend night, that is great.

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Speaker 2: We cant that seems so stupid. Just do what they do in Dublin with that camera that's always pointed at the Temple Bar, live stream it all the time. You might catch a crime, you might just catch a good time. Everyone was posting that for Saint Patti's Day and I got so much fomo.

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Speaker 1: Because of local laws.

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Speaker 6: That's great.

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Speaker 9: That is still true today. But then Mayor London Breed believed a different kind of technology would assist officers. We will give them the resources they need.

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Speaker 2: In March, she took a great heel turn, but it was so too little, too late. There was no way she was gonna win reelection. Oh no, no, she did it at the eleventh hour. You have to do it and give it enough time to sink in. But when she did turn it was pretty glorious and.

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Speaker 11: Less tolerant of all the bulk that has destroyed our city.

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Speaker 9: We will give them the resources they need. In March twenty twenty four, license plate readers went online with the purpose of curbing carjackings and retail theft. A month later, drones were also deployed. After San Francisco voters approved Mayor Breed's measure E police wasted no time documenting the results on social media.

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Speaker 2: It was an interesting campaign too. It was the let Police do their Jobs Act and it was overwhelmingly passed.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, police departments are very active on social media, So if you need any motivation at all to mine your p's and q's, if you have a mugshot taken, they will put it up on Facebook and with facial recognition, you're gonna get pinged.

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Speaker 11: Several more uniformed officers ran towards the suspect, who then ran over to the east ledge of the freeway and tossed a firearm over onto the street below. The drone captured this and quickly alerted officers on c.

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Speaker 2: I love that SFPD has their own YouTube show.

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Speaker 1: I think many of them do. When cops was around. Where was it that they would film it? Because it always seemed to be in Las Vegas, But there were a couple of other cities that would let.

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Speaker 2: Them do it, a lot of Nevada. I also think they did a lot of Texas. At one point.

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Speaker 9: The department says videos were made to show San Franciscans that they're getting what they voted for. Let's take it step by step.

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Speaker 12: Obviously, hear the need for a drone to go up.

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Speaker 9: There from this center, and operator contacts and controls the drone, which takes off from the roof of one of many buildings. In all, there are eighty police drones.

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Speaker 2: And then you watch it and they can take off and get to where they need to be a hell of a lot faster than a black and white.

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Speaker 1: Well just imagine if you had one of those babies over the tenderloin twenty four to seven, what you'd find.

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Speaker 14: Munch a little some right off the pad. It does a quick three sixty. You get itself oriented and then it takes off where you want to go.

00:29:08
Speaker 12: It's well put it out of Oakland.

00:29:09
Speaker 9: And while we were there, a call came in about a white mini van which was reported stolen from Oakland.

00:29:18
Speaker 12: Of course, so far acnowancee a driver.

00:29:21
Speaker 9: The drone followed the driver for several blocks until the person parked the vehicle and undercover officers in an unmarked car stepped in after a description from the center.

00:29:32
Speaker 12: Driver doors open, drivers out BF black cootie and pants like dark colored pants. Yeah, they're gonna rib right now. Perfect.

00:29:46
Speaker 2: Look at all this coordination. I love to see this, and this is great pr for the SFPD, Like, hey, look they're letting us do our jobs. Come work for us.

00:29:56
Speaker 1: But what you also need is you need a DA that's willing to prosecute them, a judge that's willing to do their job, and a jury that's willing to do their job.

00:30:06
Speaker 2: Well, San Francisco has two out of the four hus. How's that because they have the police, they have the technology, and they've got a great DA. But the judges, the juries are starting to move. Apparently they're not buying the Fentanel dealers or victims of human trafficking anymore. But they were for a really long time.

00:30:27
Speaker 1: It's about time we had.

00:30:30
Speaker 14: A very hard working force. I was out there and now all you've done is give them the best tools that we have, and they're still they're hitting their stride.

00:30:39
Speaker 9: They also make sure that the officers involved in a police operation are now always mentioned by name.

00:30:46
Speaker 2: Officers o'keef and Doodam then immediately arrived and placed the suspect under arrest without incident. Okay, I don't know if these are AI or if just the people that are voicing them are not professionals. They're just in the apartment and they do not have personalities for radio could go either way.

00:31:05
Speaker 9: The measure that allowed for the use of drones passed with fifty four percent of the vote, meaning that nearly half of voters were against them. Zach Dillon is with a public defender's office.

00:31:16
Speaker 2: Oh boy, here's where this story is about to take a turn. By the way, this is the same public defender's office that is saying they're so overwhelmed they're refusing to take cases, which means that anyone who can't get a public defender Apparently those charges just get dropped and the case gets thrown out.

00:31:34
Speaker 1: Well, that's a loophole that needs to be fixed, then.

00:31:37
Speaker 2: Yes, And if the public defender's not doing their job, we should stop paying them. You should see what these public defenders offices are making.

00:31:45
Speaker 9: Zach Dillon is with a public defender's office, the attorneys who often represent those people nabbed by drones. He says, they pose a threat to privacy.

00:31:55
Speaker 15: The rights and not be filmed constantly, the rights not be monitored constantly.

00:31:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, most people don't care about that. If the criminals care about that, that's something else.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: I love the fact that this is in the context of catching people breaking the law, and he goes, oh, no, you're violating their privacy. They didn't know they were being recorded when they stole that van.

00:32:17
Speaker 2: And by the way, this is the movement that has tried to get the flock cameras decommissioned all throughout the Bay Area, and they did that in Richmond, and three months later they just voted to reinstate it because in those three months where they didn't have the flock cameras, car thefts exploded.

00:32:34
Speaker 1: And by the way, if these people can just run around the town and steal any van with no windows that they want. What do you expect, Jared from Subway to write around in the right.

00:32:46
Speaker 15: To be out in public in a park and not think that you're being monitored or inspected.

00:32:52
Speaker 9: And there has been some pushback towards the license plate readers. There are now four hundred of them across the city. We found one camera lens covered with two strips of duct tape.

00:33:09
Speaker 1: A privacy advocate, Sure, that's what that is.

00:33:13
Speaker 2: Not somebody who's planning to commit a crime in that area later on. No, that's just a protest.

00:33:21
Speaker 9: Bill Buddington is with the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

00:33:25
Speaker 2: I like that name, good alliteration.

00:33:28
Speaker 14: People are fed up and annoyed, mostly with the fact of ever present surveillance in their lives.

00:33:35
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people even care.

00:33:38
Speaker 1: You can't get around it anymore. Have you gone through Customs recently?

00:33:44
Speaker 2: Yes, but I have Global Entry and it was at five am, so they just kind of waved me through.

00:33:48
Speaker 1: Okay, the last couple of times I've gone through Customs, it's all been through facial recognition.

00:33:55
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, that was the wild thing. So we landed at DFW coming back from Madrid and I didn't even have to take out my Global entry card. The guy working the customs counter looked at me, said my name to me and said, you're good to go. It's wild. And if you go to the Inuit Dome at in Englewood where the Clippers play, they're using that technology everywhere. You don't even show them a ticket, you don't even show them your phone. It knows that you bought a ticket because it knows your face.

00:34:27
Speaker 12: Oh my, So you're seeing a little bit of a pushback there.

00:34:31
Speaker 9: The jury is out on whether any of this technology is actually helping the small mom and pop shops which find it challenging to deter shoplifters.

00:34:41
Speaker 14: The drones and all these other things, For me, they're great, but they're band aids.

00:34:45
Speaker 5: I think the foundation is the Prop forty seven that we passed.

00:34:49
Speaker 10: We're still allowing people to steal from us if it's below nine hundred and fifty bucks.

00:34:53
Speaker 1: That is true, right, because if you catch them on camera doing it and they go, well, it's still under nine hundred in fifty bucks, so we can't do anything about it, then you can't use that information to stop the person from stealing.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: Prop thirty six made some changes to it, but the changes that it made was on the third time. It can be a felony.

00:35:13
Speaker 4: We got to fix that first.

00:35:15
Speaker 9: One man who sees things differently is Chris Larsen, the founder of Ripple, the cryptocurrency company. He donated most of the money to fund the center. Chris, it's not every day that you see somebody in tech very interested in law enforcement. So what was the drive for you?

00:35:32
Speaker 1: He didn't want to move to Austin. How many times do you think he got bipped?

00:35:37
Speaker 13: Well, I think it was just kind of getting back to the basics, right, what makes a city successful or not successful? And you know number one is public safety. If you don't have that, then businesses don't come, curis don't come, even locals I'll stay in you know where they live. And that was really hurting San Francisco. So we had to fix that first.

00:35:56
Speaker 9: Police say the drones have assisted in over one and arrests since they went online in April twenty twenty four.

00:36:04
Speaker 1: Those are real numbers, and you know what, you can see the difference when you're there.

00:36:10
Speaker 9: With overall crime down in San Francisco, police say they are more focused on the results, which they say speak for themselves.

00:36:19
Speaker 14: We're absolutely using that as some message to send out that if you come here to San Francisco.

00:36:25
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the picture because I was on my walk when I listened to this. But the drone operator, you know it, doesn't have to leave the office. You can tell that he's not really in the kind of shape you need to be to be a field officer.

00:36:40
Speaker 1: Needs to spend some time on the treadmill. Huh.

00:36:43
Speaker 14: We're absolutely using that as some message to send out that if you come here to San Francisco, you're gonna get hell responsible for what you're doing. That we're not going to put up with it.

00:36:53
Speaker 9: And police say they no longer chase any vehicle at a high speed that could put lives in danger. Zones can now follow a suspect from the air.

00:37:03
Speaker 2: Isn't that fascinating. They don't even have to worry about high speed chases because the drones are better at tracking them than I'm black and white.

00:37:11
Speaker 1: Well, and the drones can also go more places than a helicopter because helicopters have to fly at a certain ultitude to be safe.

00:37:21
Speaker 2: Now, drones, we're we're at a point now where the police helicopter and the news helicopter. Those things are gone on the way to the Dodo. The drones are a much more efficient way to do the same job.

00:37:35
Speaker 1: Well, and those helicopters caused a fortune to operate, don't they.

00:37:39
Speaker 2: The only thing you're gonna need a police or a fire helicopter for is swift water rescue. Everything else could be done by a drone.

00:37:46
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is a telephone number one eight hundred two to two two five to two two two. Let's go to James and El Segundo.

00:37:56
Speaker 16: James, Hello, Hey John, I'm longtime listeners, second time calor.

00:38:02
Speaker 1: How you do today? I'm good, good, Okay.

00:38:07
Speaker 16: Here's my point. Everybody out there listening, as much as we love Steve Hilton, which I hope he is going to be the next governor, needs to vote for Chad Bionco to keep the Democrats off the ballot period. It's that simple. If Swallwell or one of some other idiot gets on there, then the teachers' union, the nurses' union, and the SEIU Purple people are going to get involved, and we don't have those numbers to curtail that threat.

00:38:42
Speaker 1: What do you say, tell you well, my preference is Hilton. To my eye, he's done a much better job campaigning for governor. That being said, we need Republican or Republican leaning voters to split their vote fifty to fifty as closely as possible. And because Hilton is doing better than Bianco, if the election were today, I would vote for Bianco too,