Trading Places (1983) vs. Coming to America (1988) (2 of 2)

<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, welcome back to part two of the
<v Speaker 1>Surely You Can't Be Serious podcast Coming to America versus
<v Speaker 1>Trading Places. I am here with my friend Jason Colvin.
<v Speaker 2>How's everybody doing. Good to see it, Thanks for joining us.
<v Speaker 2>We're so glad to listen.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>One of the things I wanted to bring up is
<v Speaker 2>similarly in both of these movies, Eddie Murphy breaks the
<v Speaker 2>fourth wall.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how many of his movies that
<v Speaker 1>he does it in, but he does it a lot.
<v Speaker 1>Certainly in the two movies that we're looking at, we
<v Speaker 1>know that he does it. So he does it after
<v Speaker 1>he gets arrested for you know, bumping into dan Aykroyd
<v Speaker 1>and trying to give him his briefcase back as the
<v Speaker 1>police car's about to pull away. It gives the camera
<v Speaker 1>a look that's the breaking of the fourth wall in
<v Speaker 1>case you didn't know that term. But he gives he
<v Speaker 1>looks directly into the camera.
<v Speaker 2>My favorite, one of my favorite moments in the whole
<v Speaker 2>movie where the Duke brothers sit Billy Ray Valentine down
<v Speaker 2>at the table and they're explaining what they do right
<v Speaker 2>commodities right, They're like.
<v Speaker 4>Pork Valleys, which is usued to make bacon what you
<v Speaker 4>might find in a bacon and lettuce and tomato sandwich.
<v Speaker 2>And reviewers in the game, We're like these guys, they
<v Speaker 2>come a complete idiot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it happens again in Coming to America and our
<v Speaker 1>favorite scene.
<v Speaker 3>Whatever you like, And she's park like a dog. He
<v Speaker 3>turned to looks right at him. Really happening.
<v Speaker 5>That is such a great way of bringing the audience
<v Speaker 5>sing down the joke.
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's fantastic A big dog. How would we like.
<v Speaker 2>Stalden blood?
<v Speaker 3>What's it saying?
<v Speaker 5>See you next Wednesday?
<v Speaker 2>Okay? John Lettis has a thing where he mentions this
<v Speaker 2>phrase called see you next Wednesday.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you hear it? Come up?
<v Speaker 1>You know in our Thriller episode absolutely in the movie
<v Speaker 1>scene that is in the Thriller video, that's the last
<v Speaker 1>little bit of dialogue.
<v Speaker 3>You hear it says see you next Wednesday, right before
<v Speaker 3>our girl Ola Ray walks out. Michael Jackson.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then again, you see it in American Werewolf
<v Speaker 1>in London Advertised is one of the porno movies. You
<v Speaker 1>would have seen it in the Blues Brothers on a
<v Speaker 1>big billboard that has like a big gorilla on it
<v Speaker 1>deal with gorillas.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what.
<v Speaker 1>Well Orlandis has another thing with gorillas. But then of
<v Speaker 1>course it comes up in trading places.
<v Speaker 2>It's on a poster in Ophelia's wall.
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, and it says directed by William Wyler and
<v Speaker 1>starring Laurence Olivier. So then again it comes up coming
<v Speaker 1>to America. It's a big poster on the subway wall, right.
<v Speaker 1>So he chases Lisa down to apologize for not telling
<v Speaker 1>her the truth.
<v Speaker 3>She's frustrated at him.
<v Speaker 1>And as the train car comes to a stop, you
<v Speaker 1>see this giant poster on the wall. It's got this
<v Speaker 1>kind of space looking woman on it, kind of a
<v Speaker 1>Barberilla type of throwback. And then the name of the
<v Speaker 1>movie is See You Next Wednesday, starring Jamie Lee Curtis.
<v Speaker 1>That's cool, yeah, and Akroyd.
<v Speaker 2>So I saw him talk about this, right, So to
<v Speaker 2>see You Next Wednesday thing, it's not just thrown into
<v Speaker 2>any movie arbitrarily. What he talked about was when he
<v Speaker 2>was a young guy, he wrote a script called see
<v Speaker 2>You Next Wednesday. Anytime he cannibalizes anything from that script,
<v Speaker 2>he gives a nod to it.
<v Speaker 1>And that script as I understand, I got quite a
<v Speaker 1>few writing jobs. He struggled quite a while as a
<v Speaker 1>fledgling director. He actually has an interesting story. He decides
<v Speaker 1>he wants to be a director at eight years old
<v Speaker 1>after seeing the Seventh Voyage of Sindbad and it's just
<v Speaker 1>amazed at.
<v Speaker 3>The graphics on it.
<v Speaker 1>Loves the movie, goes home and says to his mom,
<v Speaker 1>who makes movies, how does that work? You know, he's
<v Speaker 1>just a little kid, and she's like, well, that's the director.
<v Speaker 1>From that moment on, he decides he wants to be
<v Speaker 1>a director, and so at sixteen, instead of going to
<v Speaker 1>work at McDonald's like most kids do, he goes to
<v Speaker 1>work in the mail room in twentieth Century Fox and
<v Speaker 1>it's just fascinated by it and meets some people. And
<v Speaker 1>then at some point a couple of years later, he
<v Speaker 1>gets a call from a guy who's making the movie
<v Speaker 1>Kelly's Heroes, which starts Clint Eastwood. He says, if you
<v Speaker 1>can get out to Yugoslavia, I might be able to
<v Speaker 1>get you a job on this movie. I mean, how
<v Speaker 1>promising is that. He's in California, he's seventeen, eighteen years
<v Speaker 1>old something like that, And then if you can get
<v Speaker 1>out to Yugoslavia. Yeah, I might have a job for.
<v Speaker 3>You, right, So what does he do.
<v Speaker 1>He goes and gets his life savings, which that points
<v Speaker 1>about twelve hundred bucks. The tickets are eight hundred, and
<v Speaker 1>he buys his own ticket. But then he takes to
<v Speaker 1>his mom and says, hey, the studio has offered me
<v Speaker 1>a job and is paying my way out to Yugoslavia,
<v Speaker 1>and shows her the ticket that he bought, and so
<v Speaker 1>she lets him go, and so he goes out there.
<v Speaker 1>He works on Kelly's Heroes, meets all these people, and
<v Speaker 1>he does a wide array of things, stuntman work, writing work,
<v Speaker 1>grunt work for about twenty thirty movies out there over
<v Speaker 1>the course of a couple of years before he comes back.
<v Speaker 1>And then he sits down for the to be a
<v Speaker 1>part of the Director Skilled.
<v Speaker 3>You have they have a test that you've got to
<v Speaker 3>take and he kills it.
<v Speaker 1>He aces the test, but then they call him in
<v Speaker 1>they're like, I'm sorry, you didn't graduate from high school.
<v Speaker 3>We can't allow you to be a part of the
<v Speaker 3>Director Skilled.
<v Speaker 2>Wow.
<v Speaker 1>And this is all before Schlock comes out. So, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>his his road was a hard road to get to
<v Speaker 1>where he was.
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, And one more thing I wanted to mention
<v Speaker 2>before we move on that subway station, yes with the
<v Speaker 2>see You Next Wednesday poster, Yes, as a cheam is
<v Speaker 2>chasing Li said, you know that subway station and I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to mispronounce it, but it's the Hoyt.
<v Speaker 3>Sure Horn subway station. Yeah, we're from Oklahoma, not New York. Sorry,
<v Speaker 3>that's right.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, that is where the Michael Jackson Bad video was
<v Speaker 2>filmed right there as well.
<v Speaker 1>Right, so we got a connection with Michael Jackson's bad video,
<v Speaker 1>connection with Michael Jackson's thriller video, and then in another
<v Speaker 1>video that John Landers directed, that Michael Jackson video black
<v Speaker 1>or White, See You Next Wednesday is shown on the
<v Speaker 1>window which Michael Jackson throws the garbage can through.
<v Speaker 2>And in case you missed it, episode one and two
<v Speaker 2>of the Shirley Can't Be Series podcast covers Michael.
<v Speaker 1>Jackson Yeah bad versus Thriller and just as a side
<v Speaker 1>note on the coming to America, the other stars in
<v Speaker 1>addition to dan Aykroyd and Jamie La, Curtis mo Howard
<v Speaker 1>and James Brown.
<v Speaker 4>Nice Yes, it's one hell of a day in the neighborhood.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, should we talk about Eddie Murphy's
<v Speaker 1>the characters that he did on Saturday Night Live, because
<v Speaker 1>they were fantastic. He of course did fuck Wheat, Yes,
<v Speaker 1>who's hilarious. Wolay, he was then of course mister Robinson.
<v Speaker 3>And then he was Gummy Gummy dammit. So here's something
<v Speaker 3>I learned.
<v Speaker 1>There was an idea for a movie that they had
<v Speaker 1>called Purple Wheat, which was for Weeks, which was the
<v Speaker 1>movie Purple Rain, except it was Buckwheat.
<v Speaker 2>The French part, now that I can see is a
<v Speaker 2>really funny skit.
<v Speaker 6>I don't know about the movie, but yeah, I'd watched
<v Speaker 6>the whole movie.
<v Speaker 1>And so he's doing Saturday Night Live. He's done forty
<v Speaker 1>eight hours. It becomes a big hit, and then Nick,
<v Speaker 1>he's like, Nick, you should come host the show. We
<v Speaker 1>have shows all the time. Nick shows up, and the
<v Speaker 1>story that they give the people is Nick was sick,
<v Speaker 1>like he had the flu. The fact is Nick Nolty
<v Speaker 1>was drunk out of his mind, like he could not perform,
<v Speaker 1>and so what ended up happening is they had Eddie
<v Speaker 1>Murphy be the host of the show. It's the only
<v Speaker 1>time that a cast member has been a host as well. Wow,
<v Speaker 1>he starts off the show with Live from New York,
<v Speaker 1>It's the Eddie Murphy Show, and everybody's like, WHOA, what
<v Speaker 1>did he just do?
<v Speaker 3>Because that was not scripted that he say it like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's talk just a moment before we move on
<v Speaker 2>too much. But so Billy Ray Valentine super funny. But
<v Speaker 2>it is a version of Eddie Murphy. That character is
<v Speaker 2>basically a smart LG version of Eddie Murphy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I saw Eddie Murphy talking about it when he wanted
<v Speaker 2>to do Coming to America. He wanted to play a
<v Speaker 2>character that wasn't himself, right, So Prince Akim is not
<v Speaker 2>really Eddie Murphy. I mean, you know all your parts time,
<v Speaker 2>but Prince Akim is like my favorite Eddie Murphy character.
<v Speaker 1>He's well, he's genuine, he's real, he's honest, he's a
<v Speaker 1>good he's got good morals. And we talked about Prince
<v Speaker 1>and the Popper and Pygmalion being kind of the underlying
<v Speaker 1>stories for trading places. John landis is Coming to America
<v Speaker 1>is a Cinderella story, which I completely disagree with. It's
<v Speaker 1>not remotely Cinderella at all. We got a prince who's
<v Speaker 1>being poor. It's still the prince in the Popper story,
<v Speaker 1>but it's not least his story. It's not her story.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not called I Met a Prince. It's
<v Speaker 1>a different perspective on it. But the story actually was
<v Speaker 1>something that they say was Eddie Murphy's, like Arsenal Hall said, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Murphy wrote this on a pad. But actually when
<v Speaker 1>the movie came out, there was some litigation that happened
<v Speaker 1>to a guy named Art Buckwald, who was a humorist,
<v Speaker 1>had proposed a script several years earlier, eighty two or
<v Speaker 1>eighty three. I think that was connected with John Landis,
<v Speaker 1>connected with Eddie Murphy, and was the idea of a
<v Speaker 1>prince from Africa coming to America.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he sued and he won.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he won nine hundred thousand dollars, was the very
<v Speaker 1>nine hundred thousand dollars. He got one hundred and fifty
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars and the attorney's got seven hundred and fifty No,
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, it's terrible.
<v Speaker 3>They actually lawyers.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't trust him. They ended up, you know, there
<v Speaker 1>was going to be an appeal, but they ended up
<v Speaker 1>settling before the appeal was finalized.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if that was what the final
<v Speaker 3>amount was, but that was what the original verdict was.
<v Speaker 2>Wow. One of the characters that Aidemericy plays in Coming
<v Speaker 2>to America the barber. There's a couple of things I
<v Speaker 2>want to mention about the barber. I'm bouncing around.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's We're bouncing around all over the This is
<v Speaker 1>our scattershot show.
<v Speaker 2>All right. So he plays the barber, kind of the
<v Speaker 2>older barber. Number one, every piece of advice that this
<v Speaker 2>guy gives is spot on good advice. So he tells
<v Speaker 2>him Number one. He's like, I'm interested in meeting women. Right,
<v Speaker 2>Where can I meet women?
<v Speaker 1>We've been We've been to every bar in the Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>He said, oh man, you don't want to go there.
<v Speaker 5>You want to go Where's a good place?
<v Speaker 2>Community events? Church? And then he says, hey, there's something
<v Speaker 2>going on called the Black Awareness thing down here at
<v Speaker 2>the community.
<v Speaker 3>Center at the church. Right.
<v Speaker 2>Well, it turns out that's where Hakem meets Lisa. Then
<v Speaker 2>later Haikeem comes back and he wants to get his
<v Speaker 2>soul glow on, right, and the guy said, man, now
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to do that. He does. That's ridiculous.
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to do that, just you know, leave
<v Speaker 5>your normal hair that nobody likes. That's just so.
<v Speaker 2>Later he comes back and asks him. He says, well,
<v Speaker 2>how do I get in with a woman? And the
<v Speaker 2>barber says, if you want to get in with the lady,
<v Speaker 2>how do you do it? You get in good with
<v Speaker 2>her father. And that's why he ends up going to McDowell.
<v Speaker 2>So every piece of advice it gets from him is solid.
<v Speaker 4>Right.
<v Speaker 2>He also this barber actually, when he's arguing with the
<v Speaker 2>different barbers and the different people in his his barbershop,
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about the greatest boxes of all time, right
<v Speaker 2>and saw the old Jewish man played by Eddy Murphy
<v Speaker 2>says what about Rocky Marciano And he says, there you go,
<v Speaker 2>there you go. Every time I bring out boxes, there
<v Speaker 2>there one white guy in the room brings up Rocky
<v Speaker 2>Mars sound he bit.
<v Speaker 3>Joe Lord's ass.
<v Speaker 2>That fright he did? Whoop? You don't know what ass
<v Speaker 2>Joe Lord?
<v Speaker 3>When it fall Frank came in.
<v Speaker 2>Zulus, Well you didn't never facing that. But Rocky Marciano
<v Speaker 2>was twenty eight when he fought Joe Louis and Joe
<v Speaker 2>Louis was thirty seven. You a Frank told me, he said, hey,
<v Speaker 2>year old, those guys are hilarious.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let me just I'll sidetrack on that. Coming
<v Speaker 1>to America, the beginning in Africa, in Zamunda is hilarious
<v Speaker 1>from the get go. I mean, you've got white brows.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, from that moment on, it's funny, funny, funny,
<v Speaker 1>it's non stop funny thing. As soon as they get
<v Speaker 1>into York, you've got this ridiculousness that happens with Jake
<v Speaker 1>the Body remember that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jake's biddy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you dumb yeap? What the dumb fuck mean? Yeah?
<v Speaker 5>Body by Jake was big for about five minutes.
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to talk about these movies with keeping it clean.
<v Speaker 3>We can't cuss all the best lines.
<v Speaker 1>And so then of course they go into the barbershop
<v Speaker 1>after they've found their place to stay, and you.
<v Speaker 2>You who's names let's talk about who's in the barber chair?
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So in coming to America, you've got a guy, a
<v Speaker 1>Oscar winning actor who.
<v Speaker 3>Has no lines and no action. He's just sitting there smiling.
<v Speaker 3>His name is he was getting jor Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Apparently there was a scene that they filmed where you know,
<v Speaker 1>he's just a kid in the movie and he's he says,
<v Speaker 1>he tells the barber, Hey, I'm sorry, I don't have
<v Speaker 1>any money to pay for my haircut, and then the
<v Speaker 1>barber like cuts him. That's a big chunk out his
<v Speaker 1>hair and if you look, you can tell it's fake hair.
<v Speaker 3>That he's got on.
<v Speaker 4>Right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would have liked to see that scene in
<v Speaker 1>that movie too, That would have been That would have
<v Speaker 1>been funny.
<v Speaker 2>Did we talk about the bag handlers from Trading Places?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>The Baghandlers were the comedy writing team from SNL Franken
<v Speaker 1>and Davis. It was Al Franken and Tom Dames and
<v Speaker 1>they they did a lot of comedy bits, but they
<v Speaker 1>weren't the original guys who were supposed to play this part.
<v Speaker 1>The original guys were Dave Thomas and Rick Moranis as
<v Speaker 1>the McKinzie brothers, Right, Doug and Bob mackenzie.
<v Speaker 3>Hey, Hey, yeah, poser.
<v Speaker 2>How many times are we gonna say that?
<v Speaker 3>I hope every single both from sc TV Fame.
<v Speaker 1>Dave Thomas was also one of the co writers with
<v Speaker 1>dan Aykroyd for Spies Like Us John LANs movie.
<v Speaker 2>That's Cool I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if we mentioned this or not, but Steven Stucker is
<v Speaker 2>the Gorilla Handler.
<v Speaker 5>He's also Johnny from Airplane.
<v Speaker 3>The funniest guy in air Plan. I mean the whole movie.
<v Speaker 1>You know, we love it, but gosh, that guy's lines
<v Speaker 1>Rapunzel speak pretty, playing at wheels, picked Stripe, Paradactyl.
<v Speaker 5>We were about ready to talk about.
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea where we are. This is the
<v Speaker 3>scattershot let.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you you start with trading places since it was
<v Speaker 1>first Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So here are my friends moments when Eddie Murphy is
<v Speaker 2>in the bathtub and Coleman turns on the jacuzzie for him.
<v Speaker 4>Say man, when I was growing up, we wanted to
<v Speaker 4>cool and we had to fight in the tongue.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'll shoot back with the other pub line
<v Speaker 1>from Coming to America Father.
<v Speaker 4>It is not just that.
<v Speaker 2>It's everything, the cooking, the pampering, the dressing, the bathing.
<v Speaker 3>Actually I'd rather enjoy the bathing, but that's funny.
<v Speaker 2>My fifth favorite line, and coming to America. Oh ha,
<v Speaker 2>it is my twenty first birthday.
<v Speaker 4>Do you think perhaps, just once I might use the
<v Speaker 4>bathroom by myself. Most of music sir, why so my
<v Speaker 4>fourth favorite line from Trading Places.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, when the Duke brothers give the guy his.
<v Speaker 3>Christmas bonus, uh huh, and.
<v Speaker 2>He says, here you go.
<v Speaker 5>I bet you thought we forgot about you. Here's your
<v Speaker 5>Christmas bonus.
<v Speaker 2>He hands me a five dollars bill.
<v Speaker 5>Five dollars.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll go to the movies by myself.
<v Speaker 2>And then Bornver goes, Hey, half of that was from me.
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I love how they established at the beginning of those
<v Speaker 1>guys are jerks right off the bat. Yes, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they're leaving their mansion and everybody is like, hello, mister Duke,
<v Speaker 1>thank you, mister Duke, Hello, mister Duke, and they're just not.
<v Speaker 5>They don't even say anything to anybody.
<v Speaker 1>Just it's all beneath them, right, And you kind of
<v Speaker 1>get the same thing with dan Ekroyd. He's just but
<v Speaker 1>he responds to people, but he's very much.
<v Speaker 3>Not looking at them morning.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the first when he walks into Duke
<v Speaker 1>and Duke for the first time and hands his coat
<v Speaker 1>and his high and gloves to the gentleman, he's says hello,
<v Speaker 1>mister Winthorpe, Hello folsy, and then hands them stuff that's
<v Speaker 1>actually the producer of the movie.
<v Speaker 3>He's real names. Holding.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 1>So Trading Place's first funny part for me is whenever
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Murphy is having the party at his house and
<v Speaker 1>you have the of course absurd people taking women taking
<v Speaker 1>off their clothes and dancing around naked, and Dunham Elliott
<v Speaker 1>he's looking around and he's like, no, he's looking at me.
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm drinking. He's drinking the drinks. He's having a
<v Speaker 1>good time, he's kind of checking out.
<v Speaker 2>Hilarious that party scene at the very end when Eddie
<v Speaker 2>Murphy gets sick of everybody free load and he comes
<v Speaker 2>up to the two guys that are going to beat
<v Speaker 2>him up in the cell and he's like, he's like,
<v Speaker 2>let's go, you know, and the guy's like, man, you
<v Speaker 2>are the most righteous and Eddie Murphy's like, yeah, right,
<v Speaker 2>just get the out of here.
<v Speaker 1>So whenever, whenever Eddie Murphy is in the car for
<v Speaker 1>the first time, that whole scene is hilarious. We're going
<v Speaker 1>to start you with eighty thousand dollars a year, excupid.
<v Speaker 4>It's a practical joke.
<v Speaker 3>These guys are a couple of It's not appropriate, but
<v Speaker 3>it's funny rights, my next move man.
<v Speaker 2>The chauffeur doesn't say anything, thank you've been heavy, but
<v Speaker 2>he's he's.
<v Speaker 1>Talking to when he's getting introduced to Randall and Mortimer,
<v Speaker 1>he's like Morte, all right, Randy, Randy Ady Jackson from
<v Speaker 1>the Jackson Vive.
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So the other laugh out loud moment.
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you who the actor is, but whenever
<v Speaker 1>after dan Aykroyd has been arrested, after Winthorpe has been arrested,
<v Speaker 1>and he's getting bailed out and his girlfriend is waiting
<v Speaker 1>for him, and the guy like move the ladies follow
<v Speaker 1>asleep and she's.
<v Speaker 3>Trying to put you off, and that comes his down
<v Speaker 3>next to hers. Is that sure prayer?
<v Speaker 1>That's a nice I don't know who the actor is.
<v Speaker 3>I try to figure out how that it was. I can't.
<v Speaker 3>I can't tell you.
<v Speaker 2>Just the smelly guy on the bench and Clarence beaks funny, funny, funny.
<v Speaker 3>Paul Gleeson as the jerk.
<v Speaker 2>He plays the jerk beautifully.
<v Speaker 1>I mean in the best movies, like he's the jerk
<v Speaker 1>guy in Breakfast Club, he's the jerk guy. In Dieard,
<v Speaker 1>he's the jerk guy. In this movie. I mean, he's awesome, awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Here's an interesting another.
<v Speaker 3>You know, let's got scattershot baby. All right, so Clarence
<v Speaker 3>beaks that part. Was originally supposed.
<v Speaker 1>To go to see Gordon Liddy, which historically is an
<v Speaker 1>interesting kind of guy.
<v Speaker 6>He was.
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to take away from everything he's done,
<v Speaker 1>but the interesting things about him are he was a
<v Speaker 1>part of the Richard Nixon campaign, managed that campaign, and
<v Speaker 1>then ultimately got caught up in the Watergate scandal and
<v Speaker 1>got sentenced to twenty years for that. And I found
<v Speaker 1>out later on he served like one hundred and two
<v Speaker 1>days in solitary confinement.
<v Speaker 3>I can't even wow, I can't. I don't know how
<v Speaker 3>that works.
<v Speaker 1>But he was an amazing guy, whatever the politics are,
<v Speaker 1>an incredible human being accomplishing things obviously, But then Jimmy
<v Speaker 1>Carter lets him out after five years in the interest
<v Speaker 1>of justice, and you know, Landis, It's obvious, number one,
<v Speaker 1>It's obvious that Landis is about a scattershot as this
<v Speaker 1>episode is, right, he just goes all over the place.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've had clients who talk like that, who've
<v Speaker 1>been deemed incompetence.
<v Speaker 3>That guy, okay, but anyway, he's obviously a very liberal guy.
<v Speaker 1>See Gordon Lyddy is this very conservative guy, and so
<v Speaker 1>Landis wants him to play the part of Clarence Beaks,
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate jerk.
<v Speaker 3>Guy in the movie, right right, right.
<v Speaker 1>So he ends up not being able to do it,
<v Speaker 1>but they still manage to get him in. As Paul
<v Speaker 1>Gleeson is sitting in the train car before the other
<v Speaker 1>people getting on come in. He's reading a book and
<v Speaker 1>the book is Will the Autobiography of s.
<v Speaker 3>Gordon Liddy.
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. You know when you mentioned Paul Gleeson, they
<v Speaker 2>wanted him to reprise the part of Clarence Speaks.
<v Speaker 3>In Coming to America, but he.
<v Speaker 2>Was busy shooting this little film.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you've ever heard of this called Dieharden.
<v Speaker 1>Oh you seem to remember something about that agent Dwayne Johnson.
<v Speaker 2>What is it, Dwayne Dwayne T Robinson. I can't remember
<v Speaker 2>his name in that.
<v Speaker 3>I think that may be right, if only we would
<v Speaker 3>tell us. I'm just thinking of the line, Oh, you're
<v Speaker 3>in charge.
<v Speaker 2>I'm up here to look like you're in charge of check.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the guy who just got.
<v Speaker 2>Dwayne T. Robinson for the wind.
<v Speaker 3>Hey, where to go? Yes, you have to get some
<v Speaker 3>new FBI.
<v Speaker 2>Got all right. My second favorite line in Trading Place
<v Speaker 2>is Danna Ackroyd has tried to commit suicide. Anyway, they
<v Speaker 2>rescue him, bringing back to his house and he is
<v Speaker 2>in his original house, and of course Coleman's there helping
<v Speaker 2>nursing back to health. When he comes to, he's like,
<v Speaker 2>oh Coleman, now it's just this terrible dream.
<v Speaker 3>It was all because of this terrible, awful negro.
<v Speaker 2>And Eddie Murphy is standing there and he's like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>wait at what And then he sees him. He jumps
<v Speaker 2>out of bed and starts choking him and he's holding
<v Speaker 2>down his chair and baking. He's head on the floor.
<v Speaker 5>Last does get.
<v Speaker 3>Okay?
<v Speaker 1>I like the I like it when they're looking at
<v Speaker 1>Clarence peaks inside of the ape suit.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, let him it's Christmas. Let him have
<v Speaker 3>their fun.
<v Speaker 2>The best line in Trading Places is at the very
<v Speaker 2>last scene.
<v Speaker 4>Looking God, Billy Ray really good?
<v Speaker 3>It all right?
<v Speaker 1>So coming to America. Best lines, This one is a
<v Speaker 1>good one. James Earld Jones delivers the line after the
<v Speaker 1>Queen's speech, delivers the line of there's a very fine
<v Speaker 1>line between love and nausea. And it's not necessarily funny
<v Speaker 1>because of his delivery, but because of her reaction. She's
<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of great reactions throughout this movie.
<v Speaker 3>He's funny. James O.
<v Speaker 2>Jones has some hilarious lines in there. I'm gonna jump
<v Speaker 2>up to my number two. But Eddie Murphy says, I'm
<v Speaker 2>a man who has never tied his own shoes. He's like, wrong,
<v Speaker 2>you're a prince who has never tied your own shoes.
<v Speaker 2>And he says, I tied my own shoes once. It
<v Speaker 2>is an overrated experience.
<v Speaker 3>So funny. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>My fourth favorite line from Coming to America is the
<v Speaker 2>bonus scene at the very end of the movie where
<v Speaker 2>the Jewish guy Saul is telling his joke.
<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh my gosh, can I tell the joke? Go yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 3>Man walks into a.
<v Speaker 1>Est he listen, No, we'll just play that joke because
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it.
<v Speaker 4>Jes right, stop right there, stop right there. Man. Man
<v Speaker 4>goes into the restaurant. You're listening. And man goes into
<v Speaker 4>a restaurant. He's just down, He's having a bowl of soup.
<v Speaker 4>He says to the Veda, Veda, come taste of soup,
<v Speaker 4>says something wrong with the soup.
<v Speaker 3>Just taste of soup. He says, there's something wrong with
<v Speaker 3>the soup.
<v Speaker 4>Soup too Well, your tasted soup is wrong with the
<v Speaker 4>soup too cold.
<v Speaker 3>Well, you're just taste of soup. All right, I'll taste
<v Speaker 3>the soup. Where's the spoon?
<v Speaker 2>Aha? I still call that?
<v Speaker 3>Why are you know? From funning up bash?
<v Speaker 1>Next favorite part is whenever he comes out and he
<v Speaker 1>starts singing, sheeeee yr quee.
<v Speaker 3>To me, Oh my gosh, number one, it's just hilarious.
<v Speaker 3>That is happening. But then you get some of those
<v Speaker 3>lines in there, free from infection.
<v Speaker 2>I need more? What are you talking about when he's singing?
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, when the guy, when he's singing chees your que,
<v Speaker 6>she's perfection, she's free from infection.
<v Speaker 5>That's hilarious that that was improved by that guy.
<v Speaker 3>Really? Yes, Oh he killed it. Oh my gosh, it's hilarious.
<v Speaker 2>My wife's birthday the other day, and when we lit
<v Speaker 2>the candles, I was thinking, cheer.
<v Speaker 1>There's some great I mean there, it's funny, funny throughout,
<v Speaker 1>and there's some real laugh out loud moments. Okay, So
<v Speaker 1>when the landlord is taking them up to the apartment,
<v Speaker 1>telling him about you know, it's only got one window
<v Speaker 1>that faces a brick wall and rented it out to
<v Speaker 1>a blind man. They open it up and the tapes
<v Speaker 1>on the floor and he goes, damn shame.
<v Speaker 2>When they walk by the bathroom, he's like, here's the
<v Speaker 2>bathroom you gotta share. Not an insect problem, but you boys, mafka,
<v Speaker 2>you're used to that.
<v Speaker 3>Then it comes out of the window.
<v Speaker 2>Good boy, my neighbors.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you do. Oh.
<v Speaker 2>And that and the other scene in the barbershop when
<v Speaker 2>he's talking about me, Martin Luther.
<v Speaker 5>King, I walking out to set out of my own
<v Speaker 5>benefit walk no feeling good.
<v Speaker 2>I walk around the corner.
<v Speaker 4>Man woke up, hit me in my chest, right, I'll
<v Speaker 4>fall on the ground right.
<v Speaker 2>And I look up at doctor Martin Luther King.
<v Speaker 5>I said, doctor King.
<v Speaker 2>He said somebody else. Man, you ain't never met the King.
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the whole scene where they're in
<v Speaker 1>the bar and all of the women that come in
<v Speaker 1>and the first one that they meet and she's so smiley,
<v Speaker 1>and then I have a secret.
<v Speaker 2>I worshiped the devil.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, my name is Jesus, and I'm the best all
<v Speaker 4>the d j's want to feel my brus.
<v Speaker 2>The worst one of all is that one lady who's like,
<v Speaker 2>I need a man satisfying me shot.
<v Speaker 5>Some guys do an our hour and a half shot,
<v Speaker 5>I need more. That's it.
<v Speaker 1>And then Arsenio Hall playing the Preacher with the girls,
<v Speaker 1>is it's bordering on that? Is it too inappropriate?
<v Speaker 3>Funny? But man is it funny.
<v Speaker 2>His dad was actually a preacher, so that's why he
<v Speaker 2>did that character so well.
<v Speaker 3>He nailed it. Man, it's perfect.
<v Speaker 4>Chocolate.
<v Speaker 7>You remember him as Joe the policeman from What's Going
<v Speaker 7>Down episode of That's My Mama, Mister Randall Lawson and
<v Speaker 7>then that whole bit it's so awkward, It's so wonderfully
<v Speaker 7>awkward and hilarious at the same time.
<v Speaker 3>And then sexy Chocolate stomp stomp, Sensey.
<v Speaker 6>Chocolate drops the mic does the point, walks off stage and.
<v Speaker 2>He comes up.
<v Speaker 5>He has he has to pick up the microphone from
<v Speaker 5>the ground.
<v Speaker 3>Let's give it again another radam of blaws.
<v Speaker 2>Mister Randy was good and terrible. Actually, when when Randy
<v Speaker 2>Watson performs the Greatest Love of All you have to
<v Speaker 2>be like an eighties music fan to really get this,
<v Speaker 2>but he mixes up the lyrics.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he screws up the lines.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think they that's only you getting that
<v Speaker 1>kind of joke. Yeah, I missed that one completely.
<v Speaker 2>My favorite seeing in the entire movie, though, is the
<v Speaker 2>Duke's brothers see and it's it's so satisfying to see
<v Speaker 2>that come full circle. There are bums on the street
<v Speaker 2>after what happened in Trading Places. I think it's interesting
<v Speaker 2>that these movies sort of live in the same universe.
<v Speaker 3>We're back.
<v Speaker 1>So when Prince a Kiem starts, I have recently been
<v Speaker 1>placed in charge of garbage.
<v Speaker 3>This is flirtation. When you think of God, he think
<v Speaker 3>of Aki. So this is interesting.
<v Speaker 1>So Coming to America is the first time that Eddie
<v Speaker 1>Murphy is playing a romantic lead part. You know, this
<v Speaker 1>is all of the movies that he's done. This is
<v Speaker 1>the first time that he's got a love interest in
<v Speaker 1>the movie. And I think he nails it. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>he's he's charming, he's lovable. You know, he's goofy at
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, which creates a sympathy for him.
<v Speaker 2>He does pull it off. I'm totally agreeing with you.
<v Speaker 2>Are we moving into now the comments and criticisms on
<v Speaker 2>how we feel about the movies.
<v Speaker 3>Sure, U, let's you get more funny lines from Coming.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can do this all day. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so Coming to America does a great job. Actually, in
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, it's very, very funny the first half and
<v Speaker 2>then it kind of moves into this romance and I'm
<v Speaker 2>not critical of it.
<v Speaker 3>Because he pulls it off. Oh yeah, he absolutely pulls
<v Speaker 3>it off.
<v Speaker 1>The scene on the swing and by the way, we're
<v Speaker 1>about to leave funny lines and move it into something else,
<v Speaker 1>but you just made remember the part that is also hilarious,
<v Speaker 1>which is king or not I'll break.
<v Speaker 3>My foot off?
<v Speaker 1>And apparently John Amos had lived that line, you know,
<v Speaker 1>was it was not quite so, you know rough he
<v Speaker 1>thought it needed more punch.
<v Speaker 2>Cleo McDowell is awesome.
<v Speaker 3>He's one of my favorite characters in that movie.
<v Speaker 1>Just real quick, let's catch on Darryl too, because Darryl
<v Speaker 1>is such a good jerk.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 1>We talked about knowing that the Dukes are bad guys
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning with because they refuse to talk to
<v Speaker 1>anybody that's beneath them. The exact same thing is happening
<v Speaker 1>with Daryl, who walks in and.
<v Speaker 3>You know, Cleo's kissing his butt and graps.
<v Speaker 1>The shake that's supposed to go on to a little
<v Speaker 1>kid strugberry right, and then he's I mean, he just
<v Speaker 1>you know, wearing clothes must be a new experience. Bet
<v Speaker 1>you guys played games like Chase the Monkey, So coming
<v Speaker 1>to America I think is a great comedy. I don't
<v Speaker 1>have anything bad to say about this man. I enjoy
<v Speaker 1>this movie.
<v Speaker 2>I told you before that the character of Prince a
<v Speaker 2>Kim is my favorite Eddie Murphy character, maybe between that
<v Speaker 2>and Shrek or that in Donkey. He's a gentleman, he's noble.
<v Speaker 2>He gets mad at Samuel L. Jackson for using obscenities,
<v Speaker 2>which is kind of funny. But it turns into a
<v Speaker 2>romantic comedy that that I think works. I think it's
<v Speaker 2>got heart.
<v Speaker 5>I think you want to see them end up together.
<v Speaker 3>I think as a movie it works.
<v Speaker 1>The bit at the end where he's chasing her down
<v Speaker 1>and the people on the subway are watching them go
<v Speaker 1>back and forth is a classic John Lander's bit, and
<v Speaker 1>he had done it just a bit before with the dog.
<v Speaker 3>He's not the dog watching back and forth.
<v Speaker 1>Between the events unfolding between Cleo and the King and Queen,
<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's a neat it's a neat bit
<v Speaker 1>that he does. But I love that kind of romantic
<v Speaker 1>where they're like, what's gonna happen? They're, they're, they're, they're
<v Speaker 1>the audience. It's great, great little bit.
<v Speaker 6>Just there's so many funny lines, Like I when when
<v Speaker 6>Simmy has had his money come and taken down and
<v Speaker 6>he goes to send the telegram, that lady who's at
<v Speaker 6>the telegram office is hilarious.
<v Speaker 1>I need to look her up because she's she's hysterical.
<v Speaker 1>And then she's like, you've shared three hundred thousand, and
<v Speaker 1>he's like, you think I should ask for more?
<v Speaker 3>Why not?
<v Speaker 2>As long as you're asking, why don't we go for
<v Speaker 2>a cool million?
<v Speaker 3>You do not think that would be too much?
<v Speaker 5>Nah?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's hilarious. Let's go opinion now, Okay, are we
<v Speaker 3>ready to do opinion?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>Sure, go okay.
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I enjoy I enjoy trading places more.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's a little more absurd, it's a
<v Speaker 2>little more lighthearted. It's funny from beginning to end. I
<v Speaker 2>think Coming to America is brilliantly funny At the beginning
<v Speaker 2>and then sort of fades into this romance. But it works,
<v Speaker 2>and so I enjoy the movie a lot. So if
<v Speaker 2>I put them on the scales, I'm tipping a little
<v Speaker 2>more towards Trading Places.
<v Speaker 3>I see you.
<v Speaker 1>Now, it's kind of interesting because I have like the
<v Speaker 1>reverse perception of your thing. I don't think that Trading
<v Speaker 1>Places is funny from beginning to end. I like, you
<v Speaker 1>love both movies, love watching them both, but you've got
<v Speaker 1>a lot of build up that happens on Trading Places.
<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't realize how long the build up was.
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, my memory was just of Jamie
<v Speaker 1>Lee Curtis's naked movies, and.
<v Speaker 3>So I had forgotten.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's an hour into the movie before that happens,
<v Speaker 1>and so you've got this kind of long build up
<v Speaker 1>that's not funny. It's just a setup. And so the
<v Speaker 1>difference I think is with Coming to America. Yes, it
<v Speaker 1>is funny from beginning to end. I mean even I
<v Speaker 1>mean even at the point that the that the King
<v Speaker 1>and Queen are showing up, it's still funny. A little
<v Speaker 1>late for the Christmas path. This is beautiful? Is that velvet?
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it just.
<v Speaker 1>Never it never stops being funny throughout the movie Now
<v Speaker 1>Trading Places.
<v Speaker 3>I just it's not quite as funny.
<v Speaker 1>It's a good story, and I like the way it
<v Speaker 1>plays out, but I think it's just kind of a
<v Speaker 1>little absurd because it's supposed to be.
<v Speaker 3>More realistic, but it's a little absurd.
<v Speaker 1>Number one first absurd thing is Clarence peaks in as
<v Speaker 1>the security expert, saying, you know, put your hand on
<v Speaker 1>the guy's right shoulder, put your other hand in his
<v Speaker 1>left pock. I mean, how dumb. I mean, would anybody
<v Speaker 1>actually believe that?
<v Speaker 3>That's right?
<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous? This giant red x's on the dollars.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then after that, like Eddie Murphy is instantly possessive
<v Speaker 1>and angry about his possessions, and then he's.
<v Speaker 3>Instantly on the cover of the Wall Street Journal.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just I mean, that's just this is
<v Speaker 1>happening in a course of a couple of days. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's just a little bit too crazy.
<v Speaker 2>It's absurd.
<v Speaker 1>John Landis needed a little more like of a montage
<v Speaker 1>scene where we're sitting, Oh, okay, these are the things
<v Speaker 1>that are happening as time passes. But instead it's just like,
<v Speaker 1>Boom it happens, Boom it happens, and you're just like,
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe this has happening that fast.
<v Speaker 3>That's where I am on the tipping of the scales.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go with Coming to America because funny from
<v Speaker 1>beginning in I still love Trading Places.
<v Speaker 3>This is going to be a close call anytime.
<v Speaker 1>But because Coming to America it's NonStop comedy from beginning
<v Speaker 1>to end and still manages to give you a compelling
<v Speaker 1>romantic story, It's got to be the winner in my book.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that sounds good. I love both movies. Like you said,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much more we can say. I
<v Speaker 2>laugh out loud when I watch both of these movies.
<v Speaker 2>If you haven't seen one of these movies, yeah you
<v Speaker 2>need to correct that.
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, you probably should have not listened to this.
<v Speaker 2>This episode makes absolutely no sense to you.
<v Speaker 1>Oh spoiler alert, the last hour has been a spoiler
<v Speaker 1>for both movies.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, sorry about that.
<v Speaker 1>So thank you everybody for hearing us all out on
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