Rants about Compost Sh*tting, Plant Metabolism, Compensation Point, Etc

<v Speaker 1>And in that moment, that's when I know if you're
<v Speaker 1>running a shit compost, So you got to tumble. You
<v Speaker 1>got a compost tumbler and you're literally putting your feces
<v Speaker 1>in it. Tay, he's taking his own feces and he's
<v Speaker 1>shipping on a piece of cardboard, and then he goes
<v Speaker 1>and he plops it in a compost tumbler with a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of pine shavings and a weight mass a weight
<v Speaker 1>ratio of roughly two to one. It's two times the
<v Speaker 1>weight of your shit, of your turd in pine shavings. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>you really got to balance out that carbon nitrogen ratio.
<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the crime Pas. But Bodany
<v Speaker 1>doesn't podcast really on one today as as sometimes I am.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a you know, it's a brutal hot
<v Speaker 1>summer here. That dog dick afternoon has started. It's it's
<v Speaker 1>you know, temperatures of one hundred and five with abundant humidity.
<v Speaker 1>It's too hot to go outside. We're trapped inside done
<v Speaker 1>here in the Rio Grand Valley heat island of South
<v Speaker 1>Texas and forever forever more. It's it should not be
<v Speaker 1>referred to this region's colloquially known as the Rio and
<v Speaker 1>Valley from here on out because of the love of
<v Speaker 1>asphalt and the hatred of plants, tree cover especially. They
<v Speaker 1>hate tree cover down here. This area should be known
<v Speaker 1>as from here on out the Rio Grande Valley Heat
<v Speaker 1>Island of South Texas. We have an abundance of strip
<v Speaker 1>mall shopping centers. Everything is hot all the time. There's
<v Speaker 1>absolutely no concept of using plant cover or shade structures
<v Speaker 1>to keep things out of the sun. It's just what
<v Speaker 1>you do here. Trees are messy. Plant life is messy.
<v Speaker 1>We need to cut it down. We need to mow,
<v Speaker 1>we need to completely eradicate it. We're going to bake
<v Speaker 1>the ground into a solid brick. This clay silty soil. Anyway,
<v Speaker 1>you could tell I'm emotionally coping with the dominant culture
<v Speaker 1>where I live, which again hates plant life. Anyway, today
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a variety of subjects. We're going to
<v Speaker 1>talk about compensation point, why you can't grow cool seasoned
<v Speaker 1>plants and hot climates and vice versa. How temperature relates
<v Speaker 1>to plant metabolism. And that's not across universal scale, not
<v Speaker 1>all species are the same. Obviously, it depends on where
<v Speaker 1>a plant has evolved. And if a plant spent millions
<v Speaker 1>of years evolving in an alpine zone, it's not someddenly
<v Speaker 1>going to evolve the ability or be able to evolve
<v Speaker 1>the ability to grow in a tropical climate, and vice versa.
<v Speaker 1>So that's something we always got to talk about down
<v Speaker 1>here especially, and that's that's been a restriction for me. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>why not I live here?
<v Speaker 2>Not?
<v Speaker 1>I live here in a Rio Grand Valley heat Island,
<v Speaker 1>and I used to live in you know, Northern California,
<v Speaker 1>much more temperate zone. There's so many plants, wonderful cloud
<v Speaker 1>forest plants, paromo plants, these you know, pieces symbols of
<v Speaker 1>these these wonderful mechanisms, these pieces of this living machine
<v Speaker 1>that evolved in another place, like the paramo at high
<v Speaker 1>elevations and lower latitudes, or or perhaps in the cloud
<v Speaker 1>forest five or six thousand feet in chiopus, you know,
<v Speaker 1>a liquid ambar for a sweet gum forests and beautiful chiapas,
<v Speaker 1>everything covered in orchids and bromeliads and other epiphytes, you
<v Speaker 1>like mosses. Nobody ever pays attention to the moss. I
<v Speaker 1>ever pays attention to the mosses, and that epiphytic liver
<v Speaker 1>ward is not a moss. It frequently gets confused as
<v Speaker 1>a moss. I did. I made the same mistake. I
<v Speaker 1>put out a video today. Let me just go off
<v Speaker 1>on this for a minute. I put out a video
<v Speaker 1>today and it was on uh. It was called a
<v Speaker 1>chlorophalis thiefs thiefs with an FS. Apparently I'm a jackass.
<v Speaker 1>I never used the word thieves plurals. I didn't know
<v Speaker 1>it had been a while, it's been a few years.
<v Speaker 1>A Chlorophalis thiefs of Desert Sky Islands. And someone made
<v Speaker 1>a comment I plawed them for this. This was good.
<v Speaker 1>It was like, the botanic nomenclature is on point, your
<v Speaker 1>concepts of natural selection and evolution around point, but you
<v Speaker 1>still use the wrong word. You used thiefs, like your
<v Speaker 1>fucking grammar is just I couldn't. I just started laughing.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, holy fuck, I was really, I was really,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know what day man, You know
<v Speaker 1>what I didn't. I don't have rich parents sent me
<v Speaker 1>to a high falutin university, you know, and that I'm
<v Speaker 1>going to be saddled with two hundred thousand dollars of
<v Speaker 1>student debt and then still not be able to get
<v Speaker 1>a job because you know, the country we live and
<v Speaker 1>hates science. Isn't that funny. It's like it's a small
<v Speaker 1>minority of people, a small minority of humans that are
<v Speaker 1>smart enough to create the science behind this technology, and
<v Speaker 1>then the whole, the whole general populace gets to use it,
<v Speaker 1>but they don't have to actually work on themselves, or
<v Speaker 1>rather they're part of a culture that doesn't inspire working
<v Speaker 1>on yourself and self education. It's it's mostly just education
<v Speaker 1>for the sake of attaining it the degree so you
<v Speaker 1>get a career, right. It's just like it's the it's
<v Speaker 1>the EO. Wilson quote. You know, we have this godlike technology,
<v Speaker 1>but like there's still these like chimp brains, you know,
<v Speaker 1>to just like fight and fuck and mostly I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I think with humans, the main thing is the social component.
<v Speaker 1>The main thing is the social component. And it's the
<v Speaker 1>same with jimps. It's we need group approval. We need
<v Speaker 1>to be part of the group. We need to feel
<v Speaker 1>like we're part of the group. We need to perform
<v Speaker 1>for the group. We care what they think of us.
<v Speaker 1>All our actions are inspired by the group and the
<v Speaker 1>cool people, the ones that I enjoy being around. The
<v Speaker 1>ones who are stand out as unique or intelligent, are
<v Speaker 1>the ones who generally tell the group to go fuck
<v Speaker 1>itself and say, I'm going to figure this out for
<v Speaker 1>my own as for my own, for my own damn self.
<v Speaker 1>You know, thieves thief The fuck is wrong with me? Ah? Anyway,
<v Speaker 1>do you think that's ever been done before? Anyone's ever
<v Speaker 1>put the word a chlorophilis in front of thieves thieves
<v Speaker 1>plural but spelled use the wrong word for the plural
<v Speaker 1>form of thiefs. Do you think anyone's ever done it?
<v Speaker 1>Probably not. Probably, I think I'm the first jackass to
<v Speaker 1>do that. But anyway, you know, it's all about the
<v Speaker 1>whole experience. My daughters starts school Monday, and her grandparents
<v Speaker 1>were giving me shit. They're like, they were like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't like school anymore because you She heard you
<v Speaker 1>say bad things about it and refer to it as indoctrination.
<v Speaker 1>And I said, I did not. First off, that was
<v Speaker 1>nine months ago, and I did do that. It's an
<v Speaker 1>entirely and it is it isn't doctrination. It's entirely Hispanic school.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't give a fuck about a dentyposis,
<v Speaker 1>but it's entirely Hispanic school. And I got a picture
<v Speaker 1>of a dead hockey, a dead hockey and on the
<v Speaker 1>fucking mural. You know, it's like, what the fuck? Where's
<v Speaker 1>like the like? There's no no like appreciation of like.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm certainly not knocking the school that she goes to,
<v Speaker 1>but it's, you know, at this age, she's not going
<v Speaker 1>to like a fucking Waldorf school or something. We don't
<v Speaker 1>have the money for that. But and I don't think
<v Speaker 1>there's even any in this area, right, But when you
<v Speaker 1>go to school, it's one, especially at that age, it's it's, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you learn your letters and stuff. But it's also a
<v Speaker 1>great way to you know, shelve kids away so their
<v Speaker 1>parents can go work, you know, underpaid shit jobs for
<v Speaker 1>five days out of the week, like it. And then
<v Speaker 1>it's also a way to teach kids to follow rules,
<v Speaker 1>not teaching them how to think, just teaching them how
<v Speaker 1>to follow rules. Be good, follow rules, don't question. I
<v Speaker 1>want my kid to know why the rule exists and
<v Speaker 1>then choose whether or not to follow it, Because some
<v Speaker 1>rules are stupid. I don't want her to follow every
<v Speaker 1>rule Some rules don't need to be followed. Some rules
<v Speaker 1>are written by morons. Some rules are very stupid. Some
<v Speaker 1>rules are actually dangerous. You could actually harm yourself if
<v Speaker 1>you follow the rule. So I don't. I don't, that's
<v Speaker 1>not you know, I think, I guess. I just think
<v Speaker 1>about this and it drives me nuts. But anyway, her,
<v Speaker 1>you know, her grandparents were like, we want her to
<v Speaker 1>get a career. I was like, she's fucking five, Like
<v Speaker 1>she's she's not, you know, and she's gonna miss a
<v Speaker 1>week as school next week since she's five. And she's
<v Speaker 1>also she's not missing AP calculus okay, and she's like
<v Speaker 1>missing like an AP calculus study week. She's she's like
<v Speaker 1>missing you know, kindergarten. So but it is, yes, we
<v Speaker 1>all believe it's it is important, routine, et cetera. That's
<v Speaker 1>all very important. It's more important to teach kids to think,
<v Speaker 1>how to think, how to think critically, how to question everything.
<v Speaker 1>Why is the sky blue? Why is this? Why is that?
<v Speaker 1>The minute they stop questioning, that's when you know they're
<v Speaker 1>they're fully absorbed into the system and they'll just take
<v Speaker 1>any shit that's given to them. Anyway, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm really off on one here, but uh yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>just get worked up. I think that's all it is.
<v Speaker 1>I think the school sucked for me. I didn't really
<v Speaker 1>start learning until much later, because you're just taught to
<v Speaker 1>follow rules and get good grades on the test and
<v Speaker 1>that's it. There's no I had to teach myself how
<v Speaker 1>to think, how to think critically. And most people I
<v Speaker 1>see don't know how to think still don't know how
<v Speaker 1>to think. They're how to think critically, figure shit out
<v Speaker 1>for themselves. You know. It's and now it's so easy too,
<v Speaker 1>Like these days it's so fucking easy because of you know, computers,
<v Speaker 1>and there's computers everywhere. You got a computer in your pocket,
<v Speaker 1>twenty four access to the library, fucking AI. You know.
<v Speaker 1>Don't use it in a way. It'll make you stupid.
<v Speaker 1>Some people are completely against it, but you know what,
<v Speaker 1>it's here and your little use of it is pissing
<v Speaker 1>in the ocean. Don't use it to like make you know,
<v Speaker 1>cartoon cartoon dogs driving fire truck images, you know, or
<v Speaker 1>something this was popped into mind, you know, or like
<v Speaker 1>a gurgling toilet belching forth, Oh this effluent that would
<v Speaker 1>be a nice metaphor. That's a metaphor for a lot
<v Speaker 1>of pop culture today. You know, don't use it for
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Use it to teach yourself if you're
<v Speaker 1>going to, and if you can avoid doing it, if
<v Speaker 1>you just do a good old Google search, you know,
<v Speaker 1>by reading papers or whatever. That's always fun too, but
<v Speaker 1>it's always good. You got a day off, wake up,
<v Speaker 1>drink your coffee, sitting in front of the computer, and
<v Speaker 1>just think up fucking questions to ask the internet, only
<v Speaker 1>resorting to AI if you absolutely have to. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>for shit, man, I don't know, it really can be helpful.
<v Speaker 1>I was using AI to help, you know, practice my Spanish,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's like it's there. Anyway, we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with it, like the fucking electricity demands
<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff going up. You might as well
<v Speaker 1>use it for something good. But be mindful, you know,
<v Speaker 1>be mindful when you're using it of how heavy of
<v Speaker 1>an impact this shit has and also how it's going
<v Speaker 1>to be used to enslaversh one day. Anyway, So let's
<v Speaker 1>talk about temperature. Is it corresponds to plants? Okay? And
<v Speaker 1>why you know, one of the things that happened to me,
<v Speaker 1>this is why I'm talking about this. When I had
<v Speaker 1>the move to South Texas, I realized that a lot
<v Speaker 1>of stuff I grew in the Bay are a lot
<v Speaker 1>of plants I loved, like Solandra bracket klyx, this night
<v Speaker 1>shade vine that I just saw at nine thousand feet
<v Speaker 1>in the cloud forest the Costa Rica, climbing up a
<v Speaker 1>massive oak ninety feet up in oak. I wasn't gonna
<v Speaker 1>be able to grow those where I live because they're
<v Speaker 1>not They're from two different of a climate. And even
<v Speaker 1>if I could water it and keep it water, it's
<v Speaker 1>not just drying out. Water is not really even an
<v Speaker 1>issue here. It is. I mean, I do live half
<v Speaker 1>an hour from the Peyote Gardens, but it's so humid
<v Speaker 1>all the time. The air is so humid, and that's
<v Speaker 1>what causes the nighttime temperatures to stay high because water vapor,
<v Speaker 1>of course, doesn't let go of heat as easily water holes.
<v Speaker 1>It's got a high heat capacity, especially you know, if
<v Speaker 1>it's in the air, if it's humid, so humid, human
<v Speaker 1>nights of course don't cool off. You'll notice the difference
<v Speaker 1>when you go from a humid climate, if you've grown
<v Speaker 1>up in some place like the East coast of North
<v Speaker 1>America and you go to like the deserts of New
<v Speaker 1>Mexico or Wyoming or whatever. It's you know, ninety five
<v Speaker 1>degrees in Wyoming is going to cool off the probably
<v Speaker 1>sixty five at night. It's amazing because there's no humidity
<v Speaker 1>to hold that heat in anyway. And I brought a
<v Speaker 1>couple plants with me. I knew it was probably a
<v Speaker 1>lost cause, but I brought a couple of plants with
<v Speaker 1>me when I moved out here from the West anyway,
<v Speaker 1>and they just declined. They would not grow. They just declined,
<v Speaker 1>even like trico serious. It's like, you know, the trike bros.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how many of them even are aware of this.
<v Speaker 1>But like when I was living in California, in a
<v Speaker 1>cool maritime climate of California, and it's like that in
<v Speaker 1>San Diego, that's like the best climate for tricosirious growing.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just using this as an example because there's
<v Speaker 1>so many people that grow them. The tric bros. Dude,
<v Speaker 1>you know, San Diego is like the best climate for
<v Speaker 1>trichosirius pacanoi. And you can they'll get to or approve
<v Speaker 1>vianus or whatever the shit they're growing these fucking clones.
<v Speaker 1>These dudes have made. Some of them are insane, like
<v Speaker 1>they's like diameter of a thigh, just like these blue colors.
<v Speaker 1>Lots of wax, probably very high mescaline content as well.
<v Speaker 1>If you're into that sort of thing, and they you know,
<v Speaker 1>they'll get fifteen feet twenty feet tall in that climate
<v Speaker 1>and they'll put on three feet a year. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>they grow so fast. I had a tricosirious pac and
<v Speaker 1>oi in my backyard in Oakland, and this thing would
<v Speaker 1>put on two or three feet a year. And every
<v Speaker 1>time I got so tall, I would cut it and
<v Speaker 1>give it to someone and they'd root it. Whatever you said,
<v Speaker 1>the gift that keeps on giving. Right, But then when
<v Speaker 1>you they'll grow here in South Texas and this heat,
<v Speaker 1>but they grow a lot slower, They grow a lot slower.
<v Speaker 1>And why is It's got to do with metabolism, and
<v Speaker 1>it's got to do with something called compensation point. And
<v Speaker 1>so what compensation point refers to, what all this refers
<v Speaker 1>to is the energy balance. Right, Photosynthesis generates carbohydrates, it
<v Speaker 1>generates sugars, and then metabolism a plant's metabolism being dependent
<v Speaker 1>and temperature like in the Andes at nine thousand feet
<v Speaker 1>where Trichocrius pacinoi grows in Peru, it'll be hot during
<v Speaker 1>the day, it'll be you're only like, what is it
<v Speaker 1>eleven degrees twelve degrees latitude south, but you're nine thousand
<v Speaker 1>feet up, so it's not hot and balmy and tropical.
<v Speaker 1>What is the actually what is the west coast of
<v Speaker 1>lowland Peru?
<v Speaker 3>Like?
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see that anyway. I would imagine
<v Speaker 1>it's somewhat humid, maybe not, though I don't know. I
<v Speaker 1>know coastal Chile is very foggy. Coastal northern Chile is
<v Speaker 1>very foggy, but it's very cool. And then you go
<v Speaker 1>inland and it's just fucking dry as a bone. You
<v Speaker 1>go six miles inland from the fog bank from the
<v Speaker 1>Common Chaka and it's just dry as a fuck bone. Barren,
<v Speaker 1>like the most barren place I've ever seen. It's crazy,
<v Speaker 1>you know, barren like the insides of my colon. So
<v Speaker 1>they told me a few weeks ago when I went
<v Speaker 1>for it for a colon, asked me, you said, you
<v Speaker 1>get so you have a very healthy colon. It's the
<v Speaker 1>most sparkling colon. It looked like somebody mopped and waxed
<v Speaker 1>the floors in there. The wall it's like an auditorium
<v Speaker 1>and it's so clean. The walls are beautiful. I didn't
<v Speaker 1>have any polyps or nothing. I said that. I'm only
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm in my early forties, but come from
<v Speaker 1>a long line of Daego's that get colon cancer because
<v Speaker 1>they eating fucking mozzarella balls and you know, meat balls,
<v Speaker 1>all this shit. Anyway, I digress. So you know, the
<v Speaker 1>coastal Chile, even at like four thousand feet, it's a
<v Speaker 1>steep coastline too, because you got that Nazca plate right
<v Speaker 1>to the west, diving beneath the South American continent. So
<v Speaker 1>you get, oh, that's what causes the annies to go uplift. Right.
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, nine thousand feet in prew where Trecho Series
<v Speaker 1>Provianna scrows, he gets hot days and then it gets
<v Speaker 1>you know, cool nights, because you're up at nine thousand feet,
<v Speaker 1>the air is very thin and there's also no not
<v Speaker 1>that much humidity in it, and so it loses moisture
<v Speaker 1>very fast, right, and so hot hot, warm days, cool nights.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Tricho series being a cactus, it can
<v Speaker 1>take the heat. That's not the thing that shuts it down.
<v Speaker 1>It can take the heat of South Texas, but those
<v Speaker 1>warm nights are gonna fuck it up because the metabolism
<v Speaker 1>doesn't stop. It doesn't shut down, so it keeps going.
<v Speaker 1>It's burning energy. It's the machines running. Right. There's a
<v Speaker 1>completely different case for alpine plants. Like alpine plants, a
<v Speaker 1>lot of them just you know, they've their metabolism has
<v Speaker 1>evolved at nine thousand, ten thousand foot elevation and say
<v Speaker 1>the Rocky Mountains, right, I'm talking about tropical alpine plants,
<v Speaker 1>talk about Rocky Mountain alpine plants. So they're gonna all
<v Speaker 1>their enzymes that they use for photosynthesis, they're gonna start
<v Speaker 1>shutting down or just breaking, just just slowly decomposing when
<v Speaker 1>you try to grow them at lower elevations or in
<v Speaker 1>say a very hot environment. Right, all those enzymes that
<v Speaker 1>you know, RuBisCO atp synthases, all that stuff evolved to
<v Speaker 1>work best at near freezing to cool temperatures like you
<v Speaker 1>would expect it. You know, fucking where did I see
<v Speaker 1>some of the alpine areas have been to in Wyoming?
<v Speaker 1>Amazing beautiful?
<v Speaker 3>Was it?
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was eight thousand feet. Though I
<v Speaker 1>forget what elevation it was. It was fucking high. You know.
<v Speaker 1>Obviously the higher up in latitude you go, the less
<v Speaker 1>high in elevation you have to go to get similar conditions. Right,
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, but anyway, these plants. You know, if a
<v Speaker 1>plant's machinery have evolved to work at a certain temperature
<v Speaker 1>and function at a certain temperature, that has taken evolving
<v Speaker 1>to do. They had to evolve that. There had to
<v Speaker 1>be enough phenotypic change ups within the different components of
<v Speaker 1>the genome to allow that thing to function at cooler temperatures. Right,
<v Speaker 1>And as you can't automatically because of all that work involve,
<v Speaker 1>You can't automatically just take it down to lower elevations
<v Speaker 1>and try to grow it in Phoenix or god forbid,
<v Speaker 1>in Florida even worse because of the humidity and expect
<v Speaker 1>it to run fine. Now, the machines adapted to working
<v Speaker 1>at this the things that enable it to work at
<v Speaker 1>this elevation and in this climate and aren't going to
<v Speaker 1>make it very hard to grow in this other climate.
<v Speaker 1>So it's all about temperature, right, So we're talking basically
<v Speaker 1>about how temperature corresponds the plant. So obviously if you
<v Speaker 1>try to grow alpine plants at a lower elevation, it's
<v Speaker 1>not going to work, right, It's that they're just not
<v Speaker 1>built for it, Okay, But that's not the case with
<v Speaker 1>like trichoseries, with growing cac you know, these higher elevation
<v Speaker 1>Peruvian tropical latitude cacti in the heat because they could
<v Speaker 1>take the heat. That's not the issue. The issue is
<v Speaker 1>not that they can't take the heat. They're built for
<v Speaker 1>the heat. They can get hot up there, even though
<v Speaker 1>you're at eight thousand and nine thousand feet, right, you're
<v Speaker 1>at such a low latitude to get blasted with sun
<v Speaker 1>your higher elevation, so there's the atmosphere stinger you get more.
<v Speaker 1>And also you're at such a low latitude even though
<v Speaker 1>you're so high up, you're still getting a lot of sun.
<v Speaker 1>That's not the issue. The issue is the nighttime temperatures.
<v Speaker 1>So it's not really correct for me to say you
<v Speaker 1>can't grow cool seasoned plants in hot climates, all right,
<v Speaker 1>because it's kind of a different thing. You can't grow
<v Speaker 1>alpine plants and hot climates because they're just not built
<v Speaker 1>for it. But it should be you can't grow plants
<v Speaker 1>from areas with cool nights in hot climates with warm nights,
<v Speaker 1>whereas and that's mainly due to the humidity. The humidity
<v Speaker 1>is what keeps those nighttime temperatures up. And well again,
<v Speaker 1>why is that because Tricho series just go back to that.
<v Speaker 1>It can take the daytime heat, it can take the sun.
<v Speaker 1>What it can't take is that is those knights that
<v Speaker 1>don't cool off. The temperature remains high through the humidity,
<v Speaker 1>so the plant's metabolism stays consistently running, the machine stays on,
<v Speaker 1>and now you're tapping into energy reserves. So all those
<v Speaker 1>carbohydrates you're manufacturing during the day, you know, you're barely
<v Speaker 1>breaking even because the machine never shuts off. At night,
<v Speaker 1>you're spending all those carbs that you made during the day,
<v Speaker 1>you're spending them at night. So what ends up happening
<v Speaker 1>you reduced growth. You know. Again, the compensation point is
<v Speaker 1>the level at which it's basically like the zero markets,
<v Speaker 1>the level at which the energy expenditures equal the energy
<v Speaker 1>that's created during photosynthesis. And when you start falling below that,
<v Speaker 1>now your health starts to decline. If you're just if
<v Speaker 1>you fall low, but you're still above it. Now you're
<v Speaker 1>just going to grow a lot slower, as happens with
<v Speaker 1>tricho serious and hot human climate. So you can grow,
<v Speaker 1>but you'll notice when you get those cool nights like
<v Speaker 1>you do in coastal California or San Diego or something,
<v Speaker 1>the shit grows a ton faster because the machine shuts
<v Speaker 1>down at night. We're not even talking we're not even
<v Speaker 1>getting into the weeds with CAM photosynthesis and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 1>You know the process by where you know CAM plan
<v Speaker 1>it's crass Lacian acid metabolism. Plants take in carbon dioxide
<v Speaker 1>at night's store in the form of malic acid, and
<v Speaker 1>then shut their stomata during the day so they're not
<v Speaker 1>transpiring water in the heat. We're not even talking about that.
<v Speaker 1>We're just talking about metabolic rate, and so that is
<v Speaker 1>what ends up happening. And if if you fall below
<v Speaker 1>that compensation point, then you're gonna be prone. You're not
<v Speaker 1>only gonna actually die, it's gonna be a long, protracted death,
<v Speaker 1>but you're not gonna be able to defend yourself against
<v Speaker 1>things like mites, scale, fungi, et cetera. You're gonna be
<v Speaker 1>able to produce the chemicals that constitute the quote plant's
<v Speaker 1>immune system to defend itself. And so that's what happens
<v Speaker 1>because you're running at night. The machine never shuts off
<v Speaker 1>because the nights don't cool off. So compensation point refers
<v Speaker 1>to the light intensity or CO two concentration at which
<v Speaker 1>the rate of photosynthesis exactly equals the rate of respiration
<v Speaker 1>in a plant. Right, And so again we already talked
<v Speaker 1>about this. You continue to respire at night, you're gonna
<v Speaker 1>bring those levels done. You're gonna get closer to the
<v Speaker 1>compensation number, right, because the compensation point's fixed, all right.
<v Speaker 1>But other things can affect the compensation point, all right,
<v Speaker 1>like like light. Well there's ten of these two types
<v Speaker 1>of compensation points light compensation point in CO two compensation point,
<v Speaker 1>and these don't have to do. This is something separate
<v Speaker 1>from just the machine not shutting off at night because
<v Speaker 1>the nights stay warm and plant metablins dependent on temperature
<v Speaker 1>and so it stays running. This is something different, and
<v Speaker 1>this is something I see, you know. I someone messaged
<v Speaker 1>me like a month ago and they said, I had
<v Speaker 1>this cactus for five years. It was in my apartment.
<v Speaker 1>It survived the whole time, but it never flower And
<v Speaker 1>then I moved apartments. I put it in a sunny window,
<v Speaker 1>or they might even put it outside because you could
<v Speaker 1>put obviously put kect outside in the summer and uh
<v Speaker 1>and it got a bunch more light and then suddenly
<v Speaker 1>it bloomed. It was yeah, it got you raised the compensation,
<v Speaker 1>You raised the the energy reserves. Than the level of
<v Speaker 1>energy reserves, you raise that above the compensation point. So
<v Speaker 1>with all this abundant carbohydrates that were now being created
<v Speaker 1>because it had more light, now it could put that
<v Speaker 1>towards flowering, which it did flowering and reproduction. Boom. There
<v Speaker 1>you go, that's what happened. Cact I need light. Who
<v Speaker 1>knew so? Anyway, in terms of the two of the
<v Speaker 1>two types of compensations for light compensation point, you know
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the minimum light that's required for photosynthesis, the
<v Speaker 1>balance respiration. Right plants, of course they should have mentioned
<v Speaker 1>this before, but everybody knows they're autotrophes. They create their
<v Speaker 1>own energy. They don't have to they don't have to
<v Speaker 1>eat other things. They create their own energy through photos
<v Speaker 1>of this through CO two and light. So you know
<v Speaker 1>the minimum light intensity required for photosynth the balance respiration.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the light compensation point. Below this light level,
<v Speaker 1>the plant starts consuming more energy than it produces, and
<v Speaker 1>that leads to a net loss, and it also means
<v Speaker 1>that again it doesn't have This is why like plants,
<v Speaker 1>cacti especially. I'm just talking about cacti because it's a
<v Speaker 1>great cacti that aren't getting enough light, like in shady
<v Speaker 1>conditions being abused at the Sewell Ross greenhouse where they're
<v Speaker 1>also infested with mites, and no one's treating them with systemics,
<v Speaker 1>which you basically need to if you're growing caced i
<v Speaker 1>in a greenhouse, because you're gonna get mites in there
<v Speaker 1>at some point. Mites in scale. Right, they're not able
<v Speaker 1>to make enough enough of the compounds, the phyto chemicals
<v Speaker 1>that protect themselves. So you know that's one of the
<v Speaker 1>things they can do, is to to fight off a
<v Speaker 1>really bad mighte infestation. There's nothing you can do, but
<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna they're gonna be able to defend themselves
<v Speaker 1>a little bit if they're getting enough light, right, But
<v Speaker 1>in weakened plants, if they're not getting enough light, and
<v Speaker 1>there it's it's too shady, it's too dark. Now they're prone.
<v Speaker 1>And then you introduce a pathogen you know, or or insects,
<v Speaker 1>insects or a fungal pathogen, and now you're screwed. Now
<v Speaker 1>it's like uphill battle. You got to get them more light.
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I always said. Nothing. I'll tell people,
<v Speaker 1>like you want plants to be their healthiest, get they
<v Speaker 1>they need that. They need light. They need the conditions
<v Speaker 1>that they've evolved in, all right, and they need more light.
<v Speaker 1>If it's if if they full sun plants like a
<v Speaker 1>man's needing, you're growing in the shade, it's gonna eventually decline. Right,
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be able to make enough food for itself.
<v Speaker 1>And it's also going to probably get sick. It's probably
<v Speaker 1>going to get infested with scale. And I see that
<v Speaker 1>a lot too. I'll see plants like in pots in
<v Speaker 1>a nursery somewhere or in someone's backyard that look like
<v Speaker 1>shit and the leaves have thrips and they're all speckled.
<v Speaker 1>They're covered in mites. The leaves just that's not like
<v Speaker 1>a bright, vivid green. They're pale, they're speckled. They could
<v Speaker 1>tell something's been sucking on them. You put them in
<v Speaker 1>full sun and light and boom they the pest is
<v Speaker 1>still there, but now they're able to you know, now
<v Speaker 1>they're able to photosynthesize more energy reserves to you know,
<v Speaker 1>create more lush new growth and also create more of
<v Speaker 1>the their immune system, if you want to think of
<v Speaker 1>it like that does better. And they don't. They don't
<v Speaker 1>even have to be treated. You just put them in
<v Speaker 1>full sun and give them the conditions they need and
<v Speaker 1>add with moisture and you keep the roots cool, and boom,
<v Speaker 1>they start doing well and suddenly the mites aren't an
<v Speaker 1>issue anymore. They're still there, they're probably, no doubt feeding
<v Speaker 1>on the plant or the thrips or whatever, but they're
<v Speaker 1>not a problem anymore because this is a healthy plant
<v Speaker 1>and it can probably deal with a certain degree of
<v Speaker 1>mite damage, insect damage, whatever. I mean. Plants have been
<v Speaker 1>doing us for a long time. They're holding up the
<v Speaker 1>entire biosphere. They're kind of meant to get eaten by
<v Speaker 1>other things. It's you know, they make space for that
<v Speaker 1>in their lives. So we talked about light compensation point.
<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk about CO two compensation point, all right,
<v Speaker 1>And CO two compensation point is the minimum CO two
<v Speaker 1>concentration in the surrounding air where photosynthesis equals respiration. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>So of course you know the production of these sugars
<v Speaker 1>is a product of both light and CO two, and
<v Speaker 1>that's why we have two different compensation points because there's
<v Speaker 1>two different factors light intensity and CO two concentration in
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere.
<v Speaker 3>No.
<v Speaker 1>CO two concentration of the atmosphere is four hundred, right,
<v Speaker 1>it's very really, that whole fucking Industrial revolution thing. Four
<v Speaker 1>hundred parts per million, four hundred ppm. All right, So
<v Speaker 1>remember you've got two types of plants when it comes
<v Speaker 1>to carbon fix it. Well, you've got more than that,
<v Speaker 1>but we're talking about C three and C four plants.
<v Speaker 1>C three plants work better at at a at milder
<v Speaker 1>quote milder temperatures, and C four carbon fixation works better.
<v Speaker 1>That's many of the grasses and some euphorbias, et cetera.
<v Speaker 1>They have that Cran's anatomy. Remember it's a specific type
<v Speaker 1>of anatomy where they're with which they It has to
<v Speaker 1>do with how they how they go about photosynthesis and
<v Speaker 1>sequestering carbon in themselves to keep it away from oxygen
<v Speaker 1>so that it doesn't the oxygen doesn't bind with ubisco, right,
<v Speaker 1>That's why they have that special anatomy. The C four
<v Speaker 1>plants do, so lots of grasses, especially at least the
<v Speaker 1>hot season grasses, the cool season grasses, many of them
<v Speaker 1>are just C three But anyway, C three and C
<v Speaker 1>four plants, right, So for C three plants, they've got
<v Speaker 1>a higher carbon carbon dioxide compensation point, which is thirty
<v Speaker 1>to seventy ppm, and for C four plants, they've got
<v Speaker 1>a lower carbon dioxide concentration point zero to ten ppm,
<v Speaker 1>So they only need they only need an atmosphere with
<v Speaker 1>the concentration of the C four plants do of zero
<v Speaker 1>to ten ppm because they can, they're so efficient it
<v Speaker 1>concentrating it and then shuffling it off to those bundle
<v Speaker 1>sheath cells where they can keep it away from oxygen
<v Speaker 1>and it'll get handled, you know, by RuBisCO for photosynthesis,
<v Speaker 1>the enzyme that fixes carbon all right. For C three plants,
<v Speaker 1>you know, these are very low numbers. Obviously, thirty to
<v Speaker 1>seventy ppm, zero to ten ppm, these are very low numbers.
<v Speaker 1>And of course the atmosphere never reaches that low and
<v Speaker 1>probably never has an Earth's history, except well did it ever?
<v Speaker 1>Probably not, no, but there's certain there used to not
<v Speaker 1>be any oxygen on the atmosphere, of course, but that's
<v Speaker 1>something different. So what are we talking about if these
<v Speaker 1>are low numbers, We're talking about the intracellular spaces inside stomata,
<v Speaker 1>the leaf intercellular space is inside the stomata. Once that
<v Speaker 1>CO two has diffused into air spaces within the leaf, right,
<v Speaker 1>which is I think once it gets in there is
<v Speaker 1>still you know, the CO two is tip still at
<v Speaker 1>a density of two hundred three hundred ppm, and then
<v Speaker 1>the CCP, of course is the shred the threshold at
<v Speaker 1>which these internal CO two levels can't support net photosynthesis,
<v Speaker 1>which it just drops too low. So that in other words,
<v Speaker 1>that that you know, forty to seventy ppm for C
<v Speaker 1>three plants, while it seems high, is still really really low.
<v Speaker 1>They're never going to encounter that in Earth's atmosphere, okay,
<v Speaker 1>And that's just shows how efficient they are. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>to have four hundred what's earth savage for four to
<v Speaker 1>twenty ppm of carbon dioxide inside the leaf cells of
<v Speaker 1>like a healthy, fully functioning leaf that's not in drought
<v Speaker 1>or drought stressed or heat is two hundred to three
<v Speaker 1>hundred ppm, right, and they still you have to drop
<v Speaker 1>as low as forty or seventy for the machine to
<v Speaker 1>break for the amount of carbon necessary for the production
<v Speaker 1>of sugars. That's the threshold. You know. Below that, then
<v Speaker 1>now you're in the red. Now you're in the red. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>But keep in mind that for C four plants it's
<v Speaker 1>even lower. It's like zero to ten. And why is that.
<v Speaker 1>That's because of an enzyme called pp carboxylase. So anytime
<v Speaker 1>you hear PEP carboxylates, it should be synonymous with C
<v Speaker 1>four photosynthesis, and PEP carboxylized carboxylates is an enzyme that
<v Speaker 1>C four plants use to concentrate carbon dioxide, and that's
<v Speaker 1>why they can work. It's such low ppms of CO two.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's you know, I think that is actually
<v Speaker 1>one of the defining factors. That is one of the
<v Speaker 1>that's the border line between C three. What defines C
<v Speaker 1>three and C four plants, at least in studies, is
<v Speaker 1>that C three plants are technically defined as anything that's
<v Speaker 1>got a carbon compensation point higher than forty. I think
<v Speaker 1>because you know, lower lower than that, you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>C four plants can work at very low carbon dioxide
<v Speaker 1>compensation points again the zero to ten. And so what
<v Speaker 1>is it about pep CARBOXYLATESE that makes it so so efficient?
<v Speaker 1>That makes C four plants which have this C three
<v Speaker 1>plants don't have it? Well, what makes it them so efficient?
<v Speaker 1>It's it's pep carboxylases is just so good at bonding
<v Speaker 1>to CO two. It bonds to CO two and it
<v Speaker 1>doesn't It's got no affinity for oxygen, so it only
<v Speaker 1>grabs CO two. So it grabs that CO two and
<v Speaker 1>it turns it into oxalo acetate. I always thought it
<v Speaker 1>was malic acid. Is that the same thing as oxalo acetate?
<v Speaker 1>The same thing as malic acid malae? That's not the same.
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same, but they're closely related. So ox
<v Speaker 1>salo acetate, that's it's a four carbon compound. That's where
<v Speaker 1>that's where C four photos and this gets its name.
<v Speaker 1>Uh oaa malle that kind I mean you could for
<v Speaker 1>like for crass lacey and acid metabolism, they use malic
<v Speaker 1>acid malle it to store CO two. Uh So I
<v Speaker 1>think this is the same. Is it the same? I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. PP grabs CO two from the air, even
<v Speaker 1>the low concentrations that it locks it into oxalo acetate,
<v Speaker 1>a four carbon compound, and uh, and of course it's
<v Speaker 1>it's very efficient to do in this. It's like it's
<v Speaker 1>ten to one hundred times faster at fixing CO two
<v Speaker 1>than the RuBisCO enzyme, which is which is what we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to later. But we're gonna get to that,
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a in a safe space where the
<v Speaker 1>CO two is concentrated. Later on, we're gonna get to
<v Speaker 1>that in the bundle sheath cells. So that's then, that's
<v Speaker 1>what makes this so fucking efficient, is it? The pp
<v Speaker 1>car box lace grabs the CO two, bonds to it,
<v Speaker 1>super concentrates it, and then it's it's transported to the
<v Speaker 1>bundle sheath cells. Remember that Cran's anatomy for C four photosynthesis,
<v Speaker 1>So that four carbon compound that the malade is shuttled
<v Speaker 1>off to bundle sheath cells where it's then broken down
<v Speaker 1>by enzymes. And that's when the pure CO two is
<v Speaker 1>released and it's released back into the chloroplasts, the surrounding
<v Speaker 1>chloroplasts of the bundle sheath cells, where RuBisCO gets a
<v Speaker 1>hold of it in an oxygen free environment and goes
<v Speaker 1>to town. And now you have you have photosynthesis starting
<v Speaker 1>up at least starting the carbon fixation part of photosynthesis
<v Speaker 1>starting up. And so that's why C four plants are
<v Speaker 1>so efficient, is because they've got this carbon concentrating mechanism
<v Speaker 1>with the help of PEP carboxylase, And that's why they're
<v Speaker 1>so efficient that hot temperatures, so you know, the whereas
<v Speaker 1>the C three kind of starts to break down at
<v Speaker 1>how temperatures, RuBisCO just isn't defficient, and it starts binding
<v Speaker 1>with oxygen at high heat. At the higher temperatures, RuBisCO
<v Speaker 1>just bonds with that with with oxygen more. Oxygen just
<v Speaker 1>competes better than CO two, Right, it's O two's buying.
<v Speaker 1>Oxygen's binding affinity increases while CO two's syllability decreases at
<v Speaker 1>high temperatures. So that that's why this all evolved in
<v Speaker 1>the first place. And why did it Why is because
<v Speaker 1>it seems like a flaw, like the RuBisCO thing. And
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to get into talking about fucking C
<v Speaker 1>three and C four photosynthesis. I was just talking about
<v Speaker 1>compensation point and how temperature affects plan metabolism. But we
<v Speaker 1>might as well cover this too, because it's interesting stuff. Right,
<v Speaker 1>Why is this this flaw and RuBisCO like, why why
<v Speaker 1>is this the case? Well, if you look at most
<v Speaker 1>of our's history, RuBisCO evolved three billion years ago, three
<v Speaker 1>billion years ago was in cyanobacteria. Uh, it's it's been
<v Speaker 1>used in single celled algae and eukaryotic cells like the
<v Speaker 1>higher cells, not just measley cyanobactery with the circular DNA,
<v Speaker 1>but in higher life forms, still single cell, but with
<v Speaker 1>a nutritus like many algae, green algae, and so you
<v Speaker 1>know it's an old this is an old enzyme. You
<v Speaker 1>get to cut it some sleck when it back then
<v Speaker 1>when it evolved, you know CO two concentrations were really
<v Speaker 1>high and oxygen was not as abundant. And it's just
<v Speaker 1>it's never been fixed. It's the one thing that has
<v Speaker 1>never been quote fixed. It's evolution has never gotten around this.
<v Speaker 1>It's worked out other ways around this without actually having
<v Speaker 1>to recreate something analogous to the RuBisCO enzyme, which again
<v Speaker 1>is is good at fixing carbon fixing carbon pp carbox
<v Speaker 1>las concentrates carbon. RuBisCO is what's actually needed for photosynthesis.
<v Speaker 1>So there's no there's no analogue anywhere that I know
<v Speaker 1>of to RuBisCO. There's there's no substitute, right, RuBisCO is it?
<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's what we got on planet Earth with
<v Speaker 1>the most important enzyme on planet Earth. You know, replacing
<v Speaker 1>RuBisCO would require rewiring the entire calvit cycle and that
<v Speaker 1>that is a fucking feat man. That is like it's
<v Speaker 1>like reinventing the wheel. Okay, it's like a whole, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And RuBisCO works across all photosynthetic pathways through all all
<v Speaker 1>photosynthetic life forms, so it's kind of the gold standard.
<v Speaker 1>So it's much easier to stick with it and instead
<v Speaker 1>just work around, make work arounds. And again i'm anthropomorphizing here.
<v Speaker 1>That's not how evolution works, right, but you get the idea.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's just trial and error. But you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>much easier for something like C four photosynthesis to evolve,
<v Speaker 1>and indeed it has evolved many many times independently in
<v Speaker 1>separate plant species and clades and lineages. Much easier for
<v Speaker 1>that to happen than to just reinvent photosynthesis or something
<v Speaker 1>analogous to it, all, right, because there's just it's such
<v Speaker 1>an integral piece, and there's so it's there's so many
<v Speaker 1>moving parts. It's a lot of complex shit, right, So
<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do You're gonna You're gonna reinvent photosynth.
<v Speaker 1>This is a process that's been a standard for three
<v Speaker 1>and a half billion years. Are you gonna Are you
<v Speaker 1>just gonna create a workaround like C four photosynthesis or
<v Speaker 1>CAM photosynthesis in the case of cact iron succulents in
<v Speaker 1>terms of dealing with heat. So anyway, the uh all
<v Speaker 1>this stuff is important too, C three and C four
<v Speaker 1>understanding how it works. I don't know how to fuck
<v Speaker 1>I got to talking about this, so just got a
<v Speaker 1>wild hair up my ass. But C four photos in
<v Speaker 1>this is obviously better, you know, more efficient works in heat.
<v Speaker 1>PEP carbox alas concentrates CO two and because of that reason,
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is a talking point. You always hear
<v Speaker 1>these right wing app us to say, you know, or
<v Speaker 1>like someone someway, the fact you can deny climate change
<v Speaker 1>now is just amazing. You could deny that CO two
<v Speaker 1>traps heat. It's fucking mind by the oil company. Propaganda's
<v Speaker 1>been so good in the United States, especially since the
<v Speaker 1>population is so dumb and getting dumber with every years.
<v Speaker 1>Education kntinues to be defunded and the only purpose of
<v Speaker 1>going to school is seen as to get a degree.
<v Speaker 1>You know, we elevate businessmen and rich fools to the
<v Speaker 1>status of hero, and then scientists unless they're doing something
<v Speaker 1>that creates technology and otherwise sciences they're just seen as
<v Speaker 1>a useless job, is a pointless job. The sheer love
<v Speaker 1>of learning about the world around you is not enough.
<v Speaker 1>You have to be creating something that can be monetized.
<v Speaker 1>What a fucking what is spiritually dead society? Anyway? I digress.
<v Speaker 1>You always hear the talking point that moresleel two is
<v Speaker 1>going to be good for the atmosphere or playoffs. Love it? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I guess C three plants for temperate plants, but a
<v Speaker 1>lot of plants are C four. What proportion of plants
<v Speaker 1>do C four photosynthesis? Huh? What is it? I think
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's only like three percent of plant species.
<v Speaker 1>A flowering plant species use C four photosynthesis, But this
<v Speaker 1>relatively small proportion of species accounts for approximately twenty to
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent of global terrestrial carbon fixation. All the grasses,
<v Speaker 1>not all, but a lot of grasses. All the crop
<v Speaker 1>plants sugar. All the crop grass is sugar, cane, sorgum, corn, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>all C four photosynthesis? They don't give a shit how
<v Speaker 1>much CO two is in the atmosphere. It doesn't doesn't matter,
<v Speaker 1>because they're so good they could take the smallest amount, right,
<v Speaker 1>Remember it's like zero to ten ppm. They can exist
<v Speaker 1>on zero to ten ppm of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
<v Speaker 1>They can use because they're so good at concentrating it
<v Speaker 1>and then shuffling it off to those bundle sheath cells. Go,
<v Speaker 1>do me a favorite type in type in bundle sheath cell,
<v Speaker 1>and then do a Google image search and you'll see what. Well,
<v Speaker 1>you'll see what we're talking about here, those bundle sheath cell.
<v Speaker 1>You could, I mean you could. You could see it
<v Speaker 1>in some cases. Remember my friend Matt Berger showed a
<v Speaker 1>photo of a Euphorbias species. They uses C four photosynthesis.
<v Speaker 1>He used his little hand lens. You could see they
<v Speaker 1>they look like concentric circles, concentric circles of cells around
<v Speaker 1>the vascular bundle bundle. You know, the vascular bundle this
<v Speaker 1>xylem and flume, you know it, right, And you get
<v Speaker 1>the bundle sheath around it with chloroplasts and then concentrically
<v Speaker 1>arranged mesophyl cells wreath like around the bundle sheath itself.
<v Speaker 1>So it just looks like an extra ring of cells
<v Speaker 1>around the vascular bundles. But that's where the magic happens.
<v Speaker 1>That's where the C four it's that pep carbox lase.
<v Speaker 1>That's how they do it, man, that's how they That's
<v Speaker 1>how they that's how they get it. So, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the right wing talking point, the oil company fuck boy
<v Speaker 1>talking point, the oil company who likes to get pegged
<v Speaker 1>by the oil companies? Do you like that? Huh? Does
<v Speaker 1>your right wing uncle like it? I like to get
<v Speaker 1>pegged by the oil companies and some of those guys.
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're trying to win those guys over. You
<v Speaker 1>just got to get them off that oil company propaganda.
<v Speaker 1>It's okay to you know, to admit that humans can
<v Speaker 1>affect the atmosphere. Remember in Texas after the floods. Well,
<v Speaker 1>there's been so fucked up in Texas. This is this
<v Speaker 1>is like the intellect level of a lot of like
<v Speaker 1>dominant culture of Texas and culture of course, remember it
<v Speaker 1>just gets trickled down from from the cultural icons in
<v Speaker 1>a place, the cultural leadership of a place, and then
<v Speaker 1>people just said, okay, they start repeating it, whether it's
<v Speaker 1>left or right. This is just how human culture works.
<v Speaker 1>We're social apes, we're social primates. But one of the
<v Speaker 1>things they were saying was, you know, doing the during
<v Speaker 1>the massive floods that happen, the weather's been so fucked up,
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of undeniable. It's not the CO two, it's
<v Speaker 1>weather modification. It's the weather modification. I used to get
<v Speaker 1>the comments on the YouTube channel all the time, weather modification.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, shit, the fuck up? What are you talking about? Right?
<v Speaker 1>Just I love on the scale of logic. That's how
<v Speaker 1>broken the scale of logic is in some places. Is
<v Speaker 1>it the CO two that we've been pumping into the
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere exponentially for the last one hundred and seventy five years,
<v Speaker 1>or is it the weather modification? What do you just? Like,
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? Because your your cultural affiliation, your
<v Speaker 1>ideological primate group that you're stuck in, won't allow you
<v Speaker 1>to say things like climate change, will be ostracized. So,
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like a lot of like Caucasian progressives
<v Speaker 1>won't let you say the word retard. Even though no
<v Speaker 1>one uses the word retard as a slur against disabled people.
<v Speaker 1>That would be insane and cruel. They only use it
<v Speaker 1>to describe people that are acting retarded, just like that thing,
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get, you get ostracized that way. If
<v Speaker 1>you're on the right and you admit that carbon dioxide
<v Speaker 1>traps heat, you're not, you know, you're gonna raise eyebrows.
<v Speaker 1>So next time your right wing uncle tells you about that,
<v Speaker 1>you start talking about Cran's anatomy and how you know,
<v Speaker 1>all the major monocock crop plants as well as pineapples, well,
<v Speaker 1>pineapples use camp photosynthesis, but all the major monocock crop plants,
<v Speaker 1>sour gum, sugar, cane corn, they don't give a shit
<v Speaker 1>how much CO two is in the Atmosphere're not gonna
<v Speaker 1>benefit from the increased CO two, but they might be
<v Speaker 1>a little more stressed out from the heat and the
<v Speaker 1>erratic weather patterns. So anyway, you say, you know, when
<v Speaker 1>they go off and you tell them, hey, hey, grandpa,
<v Speaker 1>why don't you touch my Cran's anatomy, that's what you
<v Speaker 1>say to them, and then we can start talking about
<v Speaker 1>the plant metabolism. But I wonder going back to the
<v Speaker 1>plant metabolism things. So for tropical plant it's where it
<v Speaker 1>stays so damn warm and humid at night, their respiration
<v Speaker 1>is going at night. Obviously they can't shut that down.
<v Speaker 1>How do they compensate? Are they just how do they
<v Speaker 1>not hit their compensation point? How do not fall below it?
<v Speaker 1>I guess the carbon fixation and photosynthesis during the day
<v Speaker 1>is just running so strong. They grow so vigorously that
<v Speaker 1>warm nights don't affect them. They can continue respiring at night.
<v Speaker 1>And then what is it? There's there is something tropical
<v Speaker 1>plants do they up their leaf nitrogen to? What was that?
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me find I wrote this down in
<v Speaker 1>my notes again. Hold on, now, maybe I misread that wrong.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just seeing stuff about heat shock proteins, which I
<v Speaker 1>had a friend who was studying beeflies and noted that
<v Speaker 1>beeflies many species of beefly flies that look like bees,
<v Speaker 1>or a lot of flies look like bees. But that's
<v Speaker 1>generally speaking. Many species of beefly were important pollinators in
<v Speaker 1>thee because they had hot heat shock proteins to help
<v Speaker 1>them cope with those those really hot days, whereas bees
<v Speaker 1>tend to be more active in the morning and at
<v Speaker 1>least during the hot season mornings before it really heats up.
<v Speaker 1>And I think maybe dusk too. I don't know, but
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing for tropical plants heat shock proteins, and then
<v Speaker 1>OSMO protected which are you know, like a osmoltes, which
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, compounds that help maintain cell water
<v Speaker 1>balance and protect cellular components under heat stress. There was
<v Speaker 1>there was a paper I came across as well called
<v Speaker 1>Handling the Heat Photosynthetic Thermal Stress in Tropical Trees a
<v Speaker 1>number of authors. The lead author was Lassie Tarvenen and
<v Speaker 1>this is from October twenty twenty one, and I think
<v Speaker 1>this paper mostly focuses on photosystem two and its sensitivity
<v Speaker 1>to to heat. Photosystem two is of course, you remember,
<v Speaker 1>photosystem two comes before photosystem one in photosynthesis, and that's
<v Speaker 1>where water is split in photosystem two, and then the
<v Speaker 1>electrons from that process are used to power the fixation
<v Speaker 1>of carbon in photosystem one. But photosystem two is essential.
<v Speaker 1>It's called it two comes before one because it was
<v Speaker 1>discovered after one. So it's counterintuitive, kind of like how
<v Speaker 1>the pistol is the female part of the flour. Anyway,
<v Speaker 1>that photosystem two shuts. That's very heat sensitive. It's especially
<v Speaker 1>heat sensitive. There's a number of reasons for that. It's
<v Speaker 1>also one of the most critical points. I mean, it
<v Speaker 1>is the most it's like the whole electron transport chain
<v Speaker 1>shuts down at photosystem two stops being very efficient. And
<v Speaker 1>this paper mentioned I think it was a critical threshold
<v Speaker 1>is a temperature at which fifty percent of PS two
<v Speaker 1>function is lost T fifty. This is a standard measure
<v Speaker 1>of heat tolerance. Research shows that the T fifty of
<v Speaker 1>many tropical tree species is only a few degrees above
<v Speaker 1>the maximum leaf temperatures they currently experience in their natural habitat.
<v Speaker 1>So this leaves a very narrow safety margin quote unquote,
<v Speaker 1>which makes you wonder what's going to happen with climate change.
<v Speaker 1>But again I think most of the warming happens is
<v Speaker 1>going to be happening at higher latitudes, and most of
<v Speaker 1>the warming, like the weather is going to get more
<v Speaker 1>fucked up everywhere, but higher latitudes are going to warm
<v Speaker 1>much more now, like which is what you see in Chicago.
<v Speaker 1>Chicago doesn't get brutal winters like it used to. There's
<v Speaker 1>still fucking brutal by any measure of degree of anybody
<v Speaker 1>saying that lives in the lower latitudes, but they're not
<v Speaker 1>like they used to be. It's freaky. I remember as
<v Speaker 1>a kid growing up, we'd be sledding in November, and
<v Speaker 1>that's unheard of. If you're going to go sledding, it's
<v Speaker 1>not going to happen till January February. And it just
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get as old as it used to, which again
<v Speaker 1>is not saying much. It used to get like twenty
<v Speaker 1>five thirty below and the snow had the consistency of sand.
<v Speaker 1>You felt like you were on frigid dunes with all
<v Speaker 1>this powdery snow just blowing. I remember like looking at
<v Speaker 1>the streets in Chicago where they'd be plowed, but there'd
<v Speaker 1>be a layer of ice on them, and then there'd
<v Speaker 1>be just these waves of sand like snow particles. Like
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't make snowballs out of this stuff. It was
<v Speaker 1>too frozen, it was too cold, it didn't pack together.
<v Speaker 1>It'd be like trying to make a snowball out of sand.
<v Speaker 1>It's wild. It's essentially just really hard ice, tiny ice crystals.
<v Speaker 1>But I think most of the warming is definitely gonna
<v Speaker 1>happen at higher latitudes, and that's what happened in the
<v Speaker 1>e scene, I think, which is fifty five million years ago.
<v Speaker 1>That's how those don redwood forests got on Axel Heiberg
<v Speaker 1>island in the Arctic. You know, someone should write a review.
<v Speaker 1>Go to Google maps to write a positive review for
<v Speaker 1>axel Heiberg Island. You know, just just give it a
<v Speaker 1>shout out. I would love to go there and see
<v Speaker 1>some of those fossil medicicoia for us. What was it?
<v Speaker 1>Was it acxul Hiberg. Let me see this. Shout out
<v Speaker 1>to the fossil don redwood forest on axel Heiberg Island
<v Speaker 1>up there in the Arctic, far far northern north of Canada. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>beautiful photos online. Oh look at these. Fuck take me there,
<v Speaker 1>Take me daddy. Oh I want to go big massive
<v Speaker 1>tree stumps. Jesus Christ. Oh, look the Hooper Museum. Where's
<v Speaker 1>the Hooper Museum? Oh at a Hooper museum is I
<v Speaker 1>think it's in Canada. Yeah, that's pretty cold. Go up
<v Speaker 1>to Canada. Yeah. Studies have been done comparing the modern
<v Speaker 1>analogs of these fossils. So shout out to the east scene.
<v Speaker 1>This is after the comment knocked out the dinosaurs or
<v Speaker 1>the asteroid, and you know, mammalian life was getting going.
<v Speaker 1>It was already going strong fifty five million years ago.
<v Speaker 1>Lots of plan but there's some fucking wonderful fossils up there.
<v Speaker 1>God like bad Lands formations, except it's frigid. How do
<v Speaker 1>you charter? How do you charter a trip to Axel Hybrid.
<v Speaker 1>Let's go, let's fucking go. Get in the fucking vague.
<v Speaker 1>We're going up there. I don't care how we got
<v Speaker 1>to get in there. We're going up to Axle Hybrid.
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Yeah, so God, that would be an amazing flora.
<v Speaker 1>If you could go back in time, where would you
<v Speaker 1>go back to? You know, for a botanical expedition, you
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to worry about getting eaten by anything. Say, mate,
<v Speaker 1>they put you in one of those little hamster balls,
<v Speaker 1>like in that shitty Jurassic Park sequel that came out
<v Speaker 1>that I only saw because my daughter wanted to watch it.
<v Speaker 1>I'm lying, I wanted to watch it too a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>But you know, uh, you know, you get one of those,
<v Speaker 1>you just go do a botanic a floristic survey. You're
<v Speaker 1>not gonna get eaten by any large abrasive mambles. He
<v Speaker 1>was emotionally abusive. He was emotionally abusive. Uh uh, ground
<v Speaker 1>ground slows didn't go what were some of what were
<v Speaker 1>some large predatory mammal families. I don't know, but anyway, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so the most of the warming is going to be
<v Speaker 1>at the higher latitudes because that's where more of the
<v Speaker 1>discremacy is. And again that's why we get those cold
<v Speaker 1>spells deep in deep Texas because the jet stream gets
<v Speaker 1>all fucked up, and now that cold air is not stable,
<v Speaker 1>it's not contained up north. It's you get that wavering
<v Speaker 1>jet stream in January Februy, and you're gonna get a
<v Speaker 1>cold dip, you know, and then people are going to
<v Speaker 1>be freezing to death in their homes in Texas, especially
<v Speaker 1>since the state, you know, the power company has basically
<v Speaker 1>been bought out by corrupt politicians or owned the it
<v Speaker 1>bought corrupt politicians. So it's all privatized. When did they
<v Speaker 1>privatize the energy grid twenty years ago? That's when it
<v Speaker 1>made everything more expensive. Like everything is privatized in Texas.
<v Speaker 1>It's like the typical like reaganomic sweat dream. We don't
<v Speaker 1>believe in publicly funding anything. Dam it. Got to keep
<v Speaker 1>those tax rates low, even though the property tax rates
<v Speaker 1>here through the roof there's high as California anyway, speaking
<v Speaker 1>of the tropics, I looked at the weather for Guanacaste,
<v Speaker 1>Costa Rica in the northwest where I was in April,
<v Speaker 1>and it was the floor was all crunchy from all
<v Speaker 1>the leaves. It's a drought deciduous tropical forest, which again
<v Speaker 1>many people in northern latitudes don't know is even a thing.
<v Speaker 1>But it was very dry, and it was but it
<v Speaker 1>was still humid, and it reminded me a lot of
<v Speaker 1>South Texas where I live, of the subtropical climate down here,
<v Speaker 1>except they get far more rain. It's just, of course seasonal.
<v Speaker 1>And I looked at the weather recently and it was
<v Speaker 1>raining every day. It's just they get, you know, two
<v Speaker 1>meters of rain a year, which but still, you know,
<v Speaker 1>Corcasolioides I probably one of the most heat tolerant oaks,
<v Speaker 1>grows there on the limestone. Fine, I need to get
<v Speaker 1>acorns of that, man, they need to get quircusoloides acorns
<v Speaker 1>grows south of me Aleapus too, but that would be
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it needs high rainfall during the summer months,
<v Speaker 1>but it can take that. It's still incredibly heat tolerant.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they don't plant caurcasolioides instead of
<v Speaker 1>the what is the oak they plant it down here.
<v Speaker 1>It's not even like it's not even Corcas fusiformists, which
<v Speaker 1>is native, you know, sixty miles north of here, they
<v Speaker 1>plant Corcas virginiana from probably from Florida, I think is
<v Speaker 1>where most of those commercial nurseries are. But uh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>got to use the tools that were built for the land.
<v Speaker 1>So I bet carcasolioides if it's not you know, well,
<v Speaker 1>human land clearance fucks it up. But I bet it
<v Speaker 1>would have if there were no people in the climate
<v Speaker 1>was changing like it is. I bet carcasoloites would be
<v Speaker 1>migrating north into Texas. I don't know why it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>occur here already, seems like it's great for it. But anyway,
<v Speaker 1>but we don't get as much rain as you get
<v Speaker 1>when you head further south into the tropical latitudes. We're
<v Speaker 1>twenty six degrees here, so it's hot as balls, but
<v Speaker 1>it's not quite the tropics yet. We don't get as
<v Speaker 1>much rain. We don't get that pronounced wet and dry season.
<v Speaker 1>But I mentioned this. I mentioned the rainfall because that's
<v Speaker 1>what the tropics have. Of Course, they've got high rain,
<v Speaker 1>so they're able to compensate with these hot temperatures by
<v Speaker 1>evappo transpiration. It's basically plants sweating, and so that is
<v Speaker 1>how many plants keep their leaf temperatures down. But of
<v Speaker 1>course to do that you need water. You need moisture
<v Speaker 1>in the first place, which plants, if you're growing in
<v Speaker 1>a desert, don't have. So you've got this warming versus
<v Speaker 1>drying conflict. You've got this critical dilemma to avoid thermal damage.
<v Speaker 1>If you're a plant, you need to transpire moisture out
<v Speaker 1>of your stilmata, you know, which if water goes from
<v Speaker 1>a liquid to a gas state that requires heat energy,
<v Speaker 1>it pulls it from the surrounding tissue and atmosphere. But
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a fixed amount of if you only
<v Speaker 1>got a fixed amount of moisture, that's gonna be a
<v Speaker 1>problem for you. And so to avoid you know, hydraulic
<v Speaker 1>failure during drought, you know, to avoid cavitation, you just
<v Speaker 1>need You're gonna need to stop transpiring too. So that's
<v Speaker 1>why many plants in the desert have hairs of course,
<v Speaker 1>to limit moisture loss, reflect sunlight, reduce the reduce, create
<v Speaker 1>their own shade screen basically help keep leaf temperatures down.
<v Speaker 1>But when you go to the tropics, where it's equally hot.
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't get I don't think it ever gets any of
<v Speaker 1>these tropical forests up to like one hundred and five.
<v Speaker 1>There's just too much moisture in the atmosphere for it
<v Speaker 1>to do that, too much water to heat up. But
<v Speaker 1>a lot of tropical plants will have big, big leaves,
<v Speaker 1>big leaf surfaces, not a lot of hair, glabrous, the
<v Speaker 1>opposite of what desert plants will have. And that's because
<v Speaker 1>they've got so much moisture. Well, one of the reasons
<v Speaker 1>they would they would rot if they had hairs, because
<v Speaker 1>it's so humid. But also they've got so much moisture.
<v Speaker 1>It's not an issue there because it rains every day
<v Speaker 1>that they can just continue sweating so and that of
<v Speaker 1>course keeps keeps them cool and keeps the surrounding area
<v Speaker 1>much cooler than it would otherwise be in say, you
<v Speaker 1>know a lowland forest on the equator where it's just
<v Speaker 1>getting blasted with sunlight, and it should by all intents
<v Speaker 1>and purposes, it should be hot as fuck, but it's
<v Speaker 1>not as hot as it could be because of all
<v Speaker 1>that moisture. But then again, when you scrape away all
<v Speaker 1>the plant cover now you're just blasting the sun with heat.
<v Speaker 1>And that's the main that's the main thing that drives
<v Speaker 1>me nuts about And I mentioned this in the podcast
<v Speaker 1>all the time, is the fucking the heat island. The
<v Speaker 1>heat island created by mowing and just fucking cutting the
<v Speaker 1>forest away. And it's so fucking infuriating, man, you know
<v Speaker 1>I was. I went on this bike ride last night,
<v Speaker 1>which I've been doing lately. It's a nice way to get,
<v Speaker 1>you know, exercised down here because the landscape kind of
<v Speaker 1>makes you fatty. There's nowhere you can't get exercise anywhere
<v Speaker 1>unless you go to a gym and you know, breathing
<v Speaker 1>off gassing plastic and listen to shitty music and hear
<v Speaker 1>the meatheads grunting every time they dropped the weights. But
<v Speaker 1>but you know, so I wanted this bike ride. We
<v Speaker 1>meet up, there's all these Spandex guys. I don't wear
<v Speaker 1>a fucking Spandex. You'll never catch me wearing fucking span X.
<v Speaker 1>I used to be a bike messenger in New York.
<v Speaker 1>I did it in Chicago. I liked it because everybody
<v Speaker 1>that did it was mostly an alcoholic anyway, there was
<v Speaker 1>a high turnover rate. You didn't have to. You could
<v Speaker 1>make it a good amount of money, get exercise, be outside,
<v Speaker 1>not have to deal with the general public too much,
<v Speaker 1>at least not in any way that could threaten your job.
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and it was fucking it was great, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and make it these amount of money again and you
<v Speaker 1>could quit, you know, the high turnover rate a lot
<v Speaker 1>of these messenger companies, and you just quit, go work
<v Speaker 1>for another company. They don't give a shit either. This
<v Speaker 1>is mostly a job that's gone now. It was restricted
<v Speaker 1>and I think now it's mostly restricted to delivering weed
<v Speaker 1>and food. But you know, in the early two thousands,
<v Speaker 1>it was still there was still a demand for it.
<v Speaker 1>I did it here, I did in Chicago, I did
<v Speaker 1>it in New York, I did it in San Francisco,
<v Speaker 1>and it was fun. You know, it was your time,
<v Speaker 1>was your own for the most part. But anyway, I
<v Speaker 1>went on this bike ride last night with these uh,
<v Speaker 1>with these the Spandex guys, and I just, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I just you need a group to ride with down
<v Speaker 1>here because the drivers are so bad and all the
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure is built for cars. It's a real shithole. So
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're safer in a large group. So there
<v Speaker 1>were like eight of us, and they're all cool. I
<v Speaker 1>think I was the only one that didn't speak fluent Spanish.
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we're biking around and we're going we bike
<v Speaker 1>down to the border wall where it's all been cleared
<v Speaker 1>and it's all ballast laid down and it's hot as fuck.
<v Speaker 1>And then there was a little parcel of quote brush,
<v Speaker 1>which is really just thorn forest. It's not even thorn scrub.
<v Speaker 1>It's thorn forest. It's thick, almost impenetrable. Uh you know
<v Speaker 1>miscuit and anaqua and whatever else forest. Uh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>primary or secondary secession forest, because it's all been cleared
<v Speaker 1>for agriculture at some point right there in a border
<v Speaker 1>right there, about a real grand And when we go
<v Speaker 1>by that massive forest, the temperature drops and it smells
<v Speaker 1>good and it's like a cool breeze and it's because
<v Speaker 1>of all the plants there. And this is the thing
<v Speaker 1>that drives me nuts that humans in a lot of
<v Speaker 1>places just have not connected the fucking dots. Yet you
<v Speaker 1>still got this archaic European probably comes from Europe, Eurasia,
<v Speaker 1>Europe and Asia, this feeling that the forest is threatening,
<v Speaker 1>the plant life is messy. It needs to be cleared.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, motherfucker, that's Earth's air conditioning system. Leave it,
<v Speaker 1>you know. And then of course you see the tropical clearance,
<v Speaker 1>the tropical forest clearance that goes on. It gets brutal
<v Speaker 1>to see. I mean, look at any map of the
<v Speaker 1>tropics anywhere. I mean I was looking at a map
<v Speaker 1>of Honduras because I might go there next year in February,
<v Speaker 1>trying to get Allen to go with to a lot
<v Speaker 1>of mushroom diversity, especially northwest hon Durnas. Some guy who's
<v Speaker 1>a herpetologist invited me down there and anyway, uh, and
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, everything's carved up. There's just you know,
<v Speaker 1>clearance for agriculture, clearance for it. It's fucking it's depressing.
<v Speaker 1>But then you also just think, yeah, you clear a
<v Speaker 1>little patch, it doesn't do that much when you've got
<v Speaker 1>to when you're clearing land on the scale that human
<v Speaker 1>beings are doing it today, it's it's insanity. It's just
<v Speaker 1>big of it heats everything up. I mean, you see
<v Speaker 1>where the mass extinction comes from. You see how it's palpable,
<v Speaker 1>You see how it's real, and and just the heat
<v Speaker 1>island effect too, I mean the whole concept of heat
<v Speaker 1>islands living in a hot place, like, I'm surprised it's
<v Speaker 1>there's not more trees where I live, Like, the city's
<v Speaker 1>not planting more trees. That would make too much sense.
<v Speaker 1>They're more interested in embezzling money from their friends who,
<v Speaker 1>you know, for their friends who have construction and development
<v Speaker 1>firms here, very very dirty city politics, or just a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of phrases in there, you know, with their fucking
<v Speaker 1>botox and perfumes and expensive suits and all this shit.
<v Speaker 1>You know, probably getting work done. You know, it's probably
<v Speaker 1>fucking dudes, a lot of dudes getting facelifts to it.
<v Speaker 1>But it's such a weird fucking this except that you're old.
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to be an old, haggard bastard. It's
<v Speaker 1>fucking twisted. I need to figure out what I'm going
<v Speaker 1>to tell my daughter about the makeup thing. You don't
<v Speaker 1>need to wear makeup. If you want to, that's fine,
<v Speaker 1>but don't Society is gonna fuck your head up and
<v Speaker 1>tell you that you need to wear it. Don't fucking
<v Speaker 1>put it on unless you really made the decision that
<v Speaker 1>you want to. Don't do it for anyone else. It doesn't
<v Speaker 1>don't think that you need this to be pretty. Any
<v Speaker 1>of that shit, it's all part of the fucking it's
<v Speaker 1>all part of the disease. But you know, I'm surprised
<v Speaker 1>that this city's here. Don't plant more tree that would
<v Speaker 1>reduce the heat everywhere. It makes it ten degrees cooler.
<v Speaker 1>It's insanity. You know. My neighbor, the guy across the
<v Speaker 1>street that's got the scam adult daycare business, he called
<v Speaker 1>the cops on me for planting trees, which is again
<v Speaker 1>I tell people that and they're blown away. If I
<v Speaker 1>knew that code enforcement wouldn't mess with me for planting
<v Speaker 1>trees and the hell strips, I'd be doing it, you know,
<v Speaker 1>once or twice a day, every day, planting trees like
<v Speaker 1>that's a great. That's the thing I can do to
<v Speaker 1>make where I live less shitty. But it's illegal here.
<v Speaker 1>It's against code enforcement. The plant trees in a spot
<v Speaker 1>where it's one hundred and five degrees fahrenheit, you know,
<v Speaker 1>fuck for six months out of the year easily for
<v Speaker 1>you metric system and Celsia's listeners. Remember it's one hundred
<v Speaker 1>and five minus thirty divided by two fahrenheit degrees minus
<v Speaker 1>thirty divided by two, So that's seventy five seventy four
<v Speaker 1>divided by two, that would be what is it, thirty
<v Speaker 1>seven degrees celsius. It's thirty seven degrees celsius for six
<v Speaker 1>months out of a year. Fucking unbelieva. And we have
<v Speaker 1>the moisture, much higher rainfall than places like Phoenix. We
<v Speaker 1>get the moisture for trees to survive once they're established.
<v Speaker 1>Why is it illegal? You know, I should just go
<v Speaker 1>to Heap's nursery and get a shit ton of tepewahes
<v Speaker 1>fastest growing tree here, lukena pulver olenta, and just start
<v Speaker 1>knocking on the doors of home owners and being like, yo,
<v Speaker 1>can I plant this in front of your house on
<v Speaker 1>a hell strip? Plant it, steake it, mulch it, and
<v Speaker 1>then just go back to water with a you know,
<v Speaker 1>a ten gallon. Maybe I'll wait till the cools off
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. It's fucking hot now. But they're resilient trees, man.
<v Speaker 1>Once you get them in the ground, they not they
<v Speaker 1>may not take off, you know the first year, but
<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll hang in there and then once you get
<v Speaker 1>some rain you can water and then they just shoot up.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can get you can get a tepewahe
<v Speaker 1>to twenty feet tall in two years. It's insane. It's
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's thin wood. It's not super strong wood.
<v Speaker 1>They could get you know, two foot diameter breast tight.
<v Speaker 1>But that I mean, that's like such a great candidate.
<v Speaker 1>Those are just fucking miskeats too. Some of the miskeuaits
<v Speaker 1>where I live, Holy Hell, I was with me and
<v Speaker 1>my kid were biking to the coffee shop there that
<v Speaker 1>they going through an alley. You know, there's this little
<v Speaker 1>terrier that comes out and chases chases us every time,
<v Speaker 1>and I always, you know, threatened to put him in
<v Speaker 1>a sandwich whenever I whenever I go by, you know,
<v Speaker 1>because he tries to come nip at our heels. Nobody
<v Speaker 1>keeps their dogs indoors here, so everything's dogs tied up
<v Speaker 1>or fucking brutal. It's dog torture. But but we went
<v Speaker 1>by this miskeit that was like it doesn't get that
<v Speaker 1>tall and then it kind of leans over, but it's thick.
<v Speaker 1>It's like a foot and a half diameter and it
<v Speaker 1>kind of leans over comes back, hits the ground doesn't
<v Speaker 1>root into it. You know, it's probably eighty feet wide
<v Speaker 1>by twenty feet tall. Just a beautiful tree, but it's
<v Speaker 1>seen as as brush is, like a pest species here.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely insane. I gotta go around taking pictures of some
<v Speaker 1>of the dying crape myrtles dead and dying crape myrtles here.
<v Speaker 1>I love seeing that. Anyway, I never fancied myself one
<v Speaker 1>that would be prone to getting into tropical botany. It's
<v Speaker 1>just not as exciting to me, or wasn't it is
<v Speaker 1>now wasn't as exciting to me as deserts always have been.
<v Speaker 1>Deserts in cloud forests, I should say lowland tropical botany,
<v Speaker 1>because parmos and cloud forests those are tropics, but they're
<v Speaker 1>high elevation, right. It's a climate of the Sunset district
<v Speaker 1>of San Francisco on the foggiest summer afternoon, but with
<v Speaker 1>much more rain. But the tropics are just fascinating.
<v Speaker 3>Man.
<v Speaker 1>It's just such a massive amount of biomass and everything's alive,
<v Speaker 1>and it's so noisy, and it's just the insect the
<v Speaker 1>singing insects are fucking wild. I was speaking of Costa
<v Speaker 1>Rica again. I was thinking about this one of the
<v Speaker 1>keystone species down there, as a plant called Terolobium ciclo carpum,
<v Speaker 1>and it's a mimosoid. It's called the elephant ear tree.
<v Speaker 1>It creates this thing that looks like a tamarind that's
<v Speaker 1>been bent into a U shape. It looks exactly like
<v Speaker 1>an ear the fruit does, and it's beautiful, and it's
<v Speaker 1>got like this resinous stuff in it, this resinous pulp
<v Speaker 1>probably has ten to twelve seeds resinous pulp in it.
<v Speaker 1>But these intero Lobium can get absolutely fucking massive, man,
<v Speaker 1>I mean just they get really really tall. They're like
<v Speaker 1>the iconic tropical tree. I think this is the national
<v Speaker 1>tree of Costa Rica as well. But in Terolobium ciclo carpum,
<v Speaker 1>it's a mimosoid. It's got the little mimosoid flowers just
<v Speaker 1>like a Tepawahe gets fucking massive, massive totem pole of
<v Speaker 1>a trunk, just a massive giant telephone pole column of
<v Speaker 1>a trunk, and then it spreads out, gets really broad
<v Speaker 1>up top. And I remember there were there was a
<v Speaker 1>spot I went to where it was only like two
<v Speaker 1>or three trees that comprised the entire covering of this
<v Speaker 1>soccer field. Like their canopy was so broad it covered
<v Speaker 1>this soccer They had a soccer field in this town
<v Speaker 1>set up under it, you know, where people would play.
<v Speaker 1>It was fucking incredible, you know, and there's the cicadas
<v Speaker 1>and everything. It was so loud, but uh yeah, god,
<v Speaker 1>it was a really cool, really cool tree species, just
<v Speaker 1>just massive that. And then I saw Cassia Cassia grandis
<v Speaker 1>as well, which cassi has you know, related to senate.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's uh it's it's a say cell pinioid,
<v Speaker 1>say cell pinoid. It's like a pink sayceell peneoid flowers,
<v Speaker 1>So that subfamily of the legging family to say cell pinuate.
<v Speaker 1>Some of the coolest ones po Maria Senna Hoffmann, Segia
<v Speaker 1>Kama krishta. But it's but they're pink, pink, pink, a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of pink and yellow pink flowers, like a little
<v Speaker 1>yellow striation on them. But that same flower structure really cool.
<v Speaker 1>But another fucking massive tree and it forms these again
<v Speaker 1>these fruits that have a little bit of pulp in them,
<v Speaker 1>kind of look like ice cream beans, you know, And
<v Speaker 1>so that pulp is what gets eaten while the seeds
<v Speaker 1>get spit out, and that's how the tree is dispersed.
<v Speaker 1>So all right, enough about that, I guess for now.
<v Speaker 1>Shuffling back over to the North American continent, we were
<v Speaker 1>in Pueblo County, Colorado, specifically, when I was heading south,
<v Speaker 1>I was leaving Colorado Springs. I've been hanging out there
<v Speaker 1>for a few days. Very nice, very high elevation. They're
<v Speaker 1>having drought issues or water issues. Of course, I guess
<v Speaker 1>the water table's dropping, but it's dropping everywhere. There's not
<v Speaker 1>enough water. I'm sure the data centers will only help that.
<v Speaker 1>I am telling you to use AI to teach yourself stuff,
<v Speaker 1>use it responsibly. I don't think your contribution is going
<v Speaker 1>to drain the fucking aquafer. It's it's the horrible things
<v Speaker 1>that the many companies are using it for that's gonna
<v Speaker 1>do it. But regardless, going south, driving through Pueblo, around
<v Speaker 1>Pueblo County, right well around Pueblo, Colorado, shick it's really interesting.
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple endemic Areagonum species. There's a cool fizaria.
<v Speaker 1>Most of the cool Colorado endemics seam centered around the
<v Speaker 1>Grand Junction area to the west. But there's I mean,
<v Speaker 1>there's cool shit all throughout the state. But the really
<v Speaker 1>the the really rare endemic seam around the Grand Junction area.
<v Speaker 1>But there was a few in Pueblo. West of Pueblo,
<v Speaker 1>like up into the front Range, and I didn't I
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to see those. I had to
<v Speaker 1>I had time I had to make but I did stop.
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, like south of Pueblos, somewhere the road
<v Speaker 1>started getting really interesting. I was just blazing through on
<v Speaker 1>the interstate, and I started seeing these road cuts, and
<v Speaker 1>I started seeing mentzelia deca pedola, the white mentzelia. It's
<v Speaker 1>like three feet tall, big white flowers, probably moth pollinated.
<v Speaker 1>Probably bumblebees hit it too, but probably especially moths. And
<v Speaker 1>so I the terrain started getting interesting, so I got off.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta see this. I needed to take a walk anyway.
<v Speaker 1>And I found this cool little area of like these
<v Speaker 1>calcareous shale barns with juniper sporadically growing around it. And
<v Speaker 1>I just parked and got out and started looking at
<v Speaker 1>stuff and saw all kinds of cool shit. There was
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of cool say, it's like a where a
<v Speaker 1>wash went under the freeway, and then there was a
<v Speaker 1>frontage road near it. And I looked on Onyx, which
<v Speaker 1>someone hooked me up with with a free account. Thank
<v Speaker 1>you whoever that was, if you're still a fan of
<v Speaker 1>crime Pace or or wherever you are. And so I
<v Speaker 1>looked on onyx and and saw that it was the
<v Speaker 1>land was owned by the state. Because there's a lot
<v Speaker 1>of private land around here. The land was owned by
<v Speaker 1>the state, and so, uh, it would be somewhat chill.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would still be trespassing, but it would
<v Speaker 1>be somewhat chill to go pick a little gander or
<v Speaker 1>go see what I could find. And I found it.
<v Speaker 1>I did find a bunch of cool shit, a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of things that were common for that area, but otherwise
<v Speaker 1>somewhat rare. Phizaria, calcicola, little mustard, all this, All these
<v Speaker 1>things were great. Nothing was flowering too, uh, that was
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. But there was you know, genera I'm
<v Speaker 1>already familiar with oreo, kearria, astraglus, metzelia, fyzaria. There was
<v Speaker 1>a there was a bricklia and and the fucking landscape.
<v Speaker 1>Oh there was Ariagenham James. I that buckwheat was flowering,
<v Speaker 1>of course, which again I'm surprised no one's growing that
<v Speaker 1>that should be common as fuck in Colorado. Like even
<v Speaker 1>in in like shitty commercial landscaping, because it's so fucking cool.
<v Speaker 1>It makes such a nice, you know, ten inch twelve
<v Speaker 1>inch ground cover. When it flowers, it's covered in fucking
<v Speaker 1>butterflies and other cool insects. But but you know, I
<v Speaker 1>think again, no one's growing and buckwheats are easy to
<v Speaker 1>grow too. Anyway, the habitat itself, I mean, that's the
<v Speaker 1>kind of habitat I'm attracted to, these like shale barrens
<v Speaker 1>where the rock is coming up in plates and it's
<v Speaker 1>it's scattered, it's a gentle slope, but it's sporadic plant life.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's basically rock. And then the soil, if
<v Speaker 1>you can call it that, that's created from this decomposing
<v Speaker 1>calcareous rock, which means it's like a white powder. It's
<v Speaker 1>like this powdery shit, And all the plants there are
<v Speaker 1>just fucking phenomenally cool, like the Yeah, like that fizaria
<v Speaker 1>that areo Carria. There was an onnathra and a lot
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff you find in areas like this tend
<v Speaker 1>to be endemic to that kind of soil. So like
<v Speaker 1>the soil type or the substrate I should call it,
<v Speaker 1>because it's not really soil. The substrate is so unique
<v Speaker 1>and extreme that once something can grow there, it can't
<v Speaker 1>grow in quote normal soil. You know. Pence them in
<v Speaker 1>versa color was a really cool one. I collected some
<v Speaker 1>seeds of that. It's like an a coalescent pence them
<v Speaker 1>and sends up escape. But the leaves just look like
<v Speaker 1>little you know, lanceolate spikes protruding from the ground. Not spikes,
<v Speaker 1>they're like glaucous, you know, leaves, but little lanceolate leaves
<v Speaker 1>without a petiole, just protruding from the ground. So this
<v Speaker 1>thing probably spreads rhizominously. It just stays buried in this shale,
<v Speaker 1>these calcareous shale. There was Escobaria vivipera there too, of course,
<v Speaker 1>is not surprising. That's a very common cactus, probably one
<v Speaker 1>of the most common species of cactus, at least in
<v Speaker 1>the cactoid subfamily. Throughout North America, there was Menzia dekapedula.
<v Speaker 1>Like I said before, the flowers bloom at night, but
<v Speaker 1>you know, beetles or something. Maybe it was locus. It
<v Speaker 1>might have been locus and katied is. We're already out
<v Speaker 1>there taking apart the flowers like they eat. I think
<v Speaker 1>they eat through the sepals, the protective sepals, and then
<v Speaker 1>after that the flower kind of opens. Uh. There was
<v Speaker 1>some weird asters. I couldn't tell what they were. Some
<v Speaker 1>weird members ASTs. I couldn'tell what they were because they
<v Speaker 1>weren't flowering yet. They were about to looked like it
<v Speaker 1>might have been a dieteria, which has purple flowers. And
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get to look at the filleries, the bracts.
<v Speaker 1>There was Yucca glocca forming massive colonies everywhere. It doesn't
<v Speaker 1>get too tall, but forms these these spikes of what
<v Speaker 1>looks like a blue rosetted grass, a bunch of Boudolua,
<v Speaker 1>wonderful native North American grass genus the Melanpodium lucanthum, blackfoot daisies,
<v Speaker 1>the penstemen, and the faizaria probably were what struck me
<v Speaker 1>the most, because I was like, this is a fucking
<v Speaker 1>weird there's a weird pennsedme. I don't think I've ever
<v Speaker 1>seen pensed them in versa color before. And then you
<v Speaker 1>four be a margin out of snow on the mountain
<v Speaker 1>as they call it. That was all over the place too.
<v Speaker 1>And then I walked through this arroyo where it opened
<v Speaker 1>up and now I was think I was on state land.
<v Speaker 1>I was away from the further away from the freeway,
<v Speaker 1>and it was just fucking beautiful. It was like these bluffs,
<v Speaker 1>these like badland like bluffs with junipers on top. And
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the central North America looks like this,
<v Speaker 1>like the areas of Kansas. I've seen this in Nebraska,
<v Speaker 1>South Dakota, you know, very understudied, underbotanized places, and but
<v Speaker 1>it's it's fucking beautiful and it's not hyper diverse, but
<v Speaker 1>what grows there is pretty tough and restricted to growing
<v Speaker 1>in those kinds of settings, these very harsh bad land
<v Speaker 1>calcareous soil settings, you know, remnants of the Western Interior Seaway,
<v Speaker 1>the Cretaceous Western Interior Seaway, and tons of cool bivalve
<v Speaker 1>fossils all over the place. I found some that looked
<v Speaker 1>like a piece of a meteor. It was a very
<v Speaker 1>iron rich it was heavier, but it looked it didn't
<v Speaker 1>look vesticular like lava wood. It didn't have vesicles, it
<v Speaker 1>had kind of bumps, it looked wardy. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck that could have been, but yeah, anyway,
<v Speaker 1>but the Menzillia was dominant in this dry creekwash and
<v Speaker 1>it was fucking everywhere. And it's such a cool it's
<v Speaker 1>such a cool one that menzilla dea pedaloids, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>really abundant, really common. Probably a lot of cool moth
<v Speaker 1>that's hitting it at night if they haven't been wiped
<v Speaker 1>out by the local agriculture and all the pesticides they used.
<v Speaker 1>You know, we are in the sixth mass extinction. There's
<v Speaker 1>insect apocalypse, insect crash. But you know, you can't let that,
<v Speaker 1>you can't let that knock it down. I got to
<v Speaker 1>learn about geologic timescale and just watch a lot of
<v Speaker 1>fucking comedy of a certain type, I guess or something.
<v Speaker 1>You gotta find a way to joke about it, you know,
<v Speaker 1>about how we're this insane species and it's et cetera.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, we really are. We're just
<v Speaker 1>crazy monckies. We're barely into this consciousness thing. If we
<v Speaker 1>were more into it, maybe we wouldn't be behaving like this,
<v Speaker 1>and so at the whims of our need for social
<v Speaker 1>approval and validation and not wanting to break groupthink, but
<v Speaker 1>or not to mention our our hoarding, our quest for
<v Speaker 1>power and money, lowest common denominator shit. But it was
<v Speaker 1>a great fucking spot. So if you happen to be
<v Speaker 1>going through Pueblo, Colorado, Pueblo county'd be keep an eye
<v Speaker 1>out on the road south of south of Pueblo. There's
<v Speaker 1>some good shit there. It's worth stopping and fiddly fucking
<v Speaker 1>around and looking at some of the plants. There was
<v Speaker 1>croton too, probably just croton dia week as I forget
<v Speaker 1>which one. I was amazed the mushroom walk that we
<v Speaker 1>did in the mountains near what was it, Woodward wood
<v Speaker 1>Park Woodland Park, Colorado, northwest of Colorado Springs. The mushroom
<v Speaker 1>walk there was lin Aia Vulgario's horrible invasive plant. It's
<v Speaker 1>a snap dragon. It's a beautiful snap dragon. It was
<v Speaker 1>really common. It was everywhere, easy to see. It's just
<v Speaker 1>an escapee from somebody's garden. But fuck it takes over man,
<v Speaker 1>really bad invasive plant. Anyway, So when I was in
<v Speaker 1>when I was in Colorado Spring still before I departed
<v Speaker 1>and saw how the beautiful road cuts, the beautiful carri
<v Speaker 1>calcareous road sets. At Pueblo, I stopped at some what
<v Speaker 1>is it natural grocer, one of those over those overpriced
<v Speaker 1>health food stores, but it was nice. Actually, it wasn't
<v Speaker 1>that overpriced, certainly better than sprouts. And I got like
<v Speaker 1>a fucking burrito and some some dog food and whatever
<v Speaker 1>the shit you know, you go, and they got like
<v Speaker 1>the there's like an old guy wearing tight eye behind
<v Speaker 1>a register and like a Caucasian girl with dreadlocks and
<v Speaker 1>the other regis, and it was, you know, it felt
<v Speaker 1>very homey andsd I felt safe. I felt like I
<v Speaker 1>was I felt like I was, you know, protected, like
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna have to see it and he was
<v Speaker 1>gonna make me puke too much. I'd rather take those
<v Speaker 1>people than a lot of the shit that I see
<v Speaker 1>in modern American consumer society. I'll tell you anyway. The landscaping, though,
<v Speaker 1>fucking club me in the head, you know. And again,
<v Speaker 1>if you think this shit doesn't matter, if you think
<v Speaker 1>it's just landscaping, if it's it's literally the wallpaper of
<v Speaker 1>the places you go, the shopping centers, the whatever, it's
<v Speaker 1>the plants. That's the life you're exposed to when you
<v Speaker 1>have to be in human society. So it does affect you, right.
<v Speaker 1>It's like if I hung a picture of like Ron
<v Speaker 1>DeSantis' butthole on my wall, you know, like a twenty
<v Speaker 1>four x thirty six poster, and I had to look
<v Speaker 1>at that every day like, oh, yeah, you say, it's
<v Speaker 1>just it's just you know, it's just wall decore. No,
<v Speaker 1>it affects you subconsciously, you know what. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>what he does to it? What is he probably you know,
<v Speaker 1>shave it and bleach it whatever?
<v Speaker 3>For?
<v Speaker 1>What are these rich fox What do they do to
<v Speaker 1>their their buttle? What do they do to their anuses?
<v Speaker 1>Their ani? Is that how you say you say A
<v Speaker 1>and I? Is that plural? That's you think it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>affect you? It does it? Certainly? Does you think the
<v Speaker 1>billboards don't affect you? They affect me. They make me
<v Speaker 1>bitter and angry. You know, I see some smiling prock
<v Speaker 1>prick in a suit, smiling pruck smile. What is a
<v Speaker 1>It's like a combination within a prick and a fuck
<v Speaker 1>that works or spricking a schmuck. I see some smiling
<v Speaker 1>pruck on a fucking billboard, you know, telling me that
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna make me millions from the car crash that
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get into. Because you know, so many drivers,
<v Speaker 1>well everything's built for cars, and so many drivers are
<v Speaker 1>terrible at it. You know that affects me. I don't
<v Speaker 1>want to see that. It's mental pollution. You fuck you
<v Speaker 1>think it doesn't affect you. Huh, it's mental pollution. It's
<v Speaker 1>why the part of the reason why the world is
<v Speaker 1>so rotten, the first world, the consumers to say, anyway,
<v Speaker 1>here I go again. He's going, he's gone again, he's
<v Speaker 1>starting again. God damn it. Take his meds. Anyway. So
<v Speaker 1>I saw this landscaping, and they do this thing that
<v Speaker 1>I've seen many places due to here. I've seen it
<v Speaker 1>in front of people's houses. You're like friends of mine
<v Speaker 1>that rent, and it's it's you throw weed fabric on
<v Speaker 1>the ground, so you're wrapping the ground and polyester fibers
<v Speaker 1>and plastic fibers. Very good, very good for your health too,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, when you end up breathing them in
<v Speaker 1>and consuming them. And then you dump boulder do you
<v Speaker 1>dump rocks and gravel, railroad ballast or maybe nicely tumbled
<v Speaker 1>river rocks on it, And it's it makes it look neat,
<v Speaker 1>it's low maintenance, it's xer escaping. It's fucking terrible. It
<v Speaker 1>creates the heat island again because rocks heat up, and uh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the sun. Is anyone who's the rocks
<v Speaker 1>hold heat for a long time, all that thermal mask. It's,
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like the same way water does, but
<v Speaker 1>rocks hold a lot more heat and they stay hot
<v Speaker 1>late into the night and it looks like shit. And
<v Speaker 1>then the weed fabric kills me. You know, so we
<v Speaker 1>don't get any weeds because plants are messy. We don't
<v Speaker 1>want any weeds it And this is what they had
<v Speaker 1>in front of it was just some landscaping job. You
<v Speaker 1>could tell I fucking hate landscapers. No offense. I'd say
<v Speaker 1>nine out of ten landscapers, I need to put a
<v Speaker 1>bag over their head. Hog tie them, put a bag
<v Speaker 1>over their head, throw them in the back of the truck,
<v Speaker 1>take them out to the desert, and don't hurt them.
<v Speaker 1>Don't hurt them. We're gentle. But you dose them with
<v Speaker 1>something of any kind of fucking psychedelic you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>reverse in doctrination, and you just say, what the fuck
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? And then you sit with them the
<v Speaker 1>whole time. Well, they're tripping their balls off, right, I
<v Speaker 1>don't care. You's fucking acid. Give them some MDMA whatever something,
<v Speaker 1>Ask why do you do this? You realize you're part
<v Speaker 1>of the problem. You're creating this. It's all part of
<v Speaker 1>the same machine designed to kill the human soul, designed
<v Speaker 1>to kill the child within us, to make us fucking boring, droll,
<v Speaker 1>miserable shits who will just go to work and take
<v Speaker 1>the increasingly shittier jobs and increasingly lower pay and the
<v Speaker 1>lack of health care and all this shit. It's that
<v Speaker 1>you're part of the problem. You create these landscapes. Why
<v Speaker 1>do you do this right? And what's the alternative? Just
<v Speaker 1>throwing some fucking native plants? Throwing some fucking native plants.
<v Speaker 1>It could all be the same goddamn thing. Plant the
<v Speaker 1>whole thing with golden rod, because it is my allergy.
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't affect your allergies. You knit wit only win.
<v Speaker 1>Pollinated plants affect your allergies. Golden runs. The pollin vector
<v Speaker 1>is an insect. You fucking moron, goud He's getting still
<v Speaker 1>worked up? Why is he still worked out? This is
<v Speaker 1>exactly why I can't listen to crime paids because the
<v Speaker 1>language is abrasive. He's very abrasive. He's very toxic. He's
<v Speaker 1>a big toxic man. How many people say that, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know some of the they're definitely Caucasian, they definitely
<v Speaker 1>average parents, and they definitely have spent too much time
<v Speaker 1>in academia. Or they like going to those fancy dinner
<v Speaker 1>parties where they stuff each other's farts and they you know,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know, but that's definitely out there.
<v Speaker 1>It's a flavor. It's not for all, and it's not
<v Speaker 1>for them, and that's okay. Dose them too, fuck it,
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Drag all these people out to the desert.
<v Speaker 1>Just have a massive dosing ceremony. Actually, don't do that,
<v Speaker 1>Hankey Shamans do that. And they charge three hundred dollars
<v Speaker 1>a visit for that new age, New Age spiritual cleans,
<v Speaker 1>a new Age spiritual colon cleans. What would that look like?
<v Speaker 1>They'd stick a metaphorical tube and your metaphorical ass and
<v Speaker 1>clean out all the shit, right, how do they? I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know. The same people that have
<v Speaker 1>dolphin impersonating fuck parties. I don't know. It's very weird.
<v Speaker 1>There's some very fucking weirdos out there. They're products of
<v Speaker 1>the culture too. It's not their fault. Everyone's a victim there.
<v Speaker 1>But this stuff killed me. This landscaping job. It was
<v Speaker 1>like a couple shrubs. Some were dead. They still had
<v Speaker 1>to irrigate. They hit They had black tubing. It's al scorch.
<v Speaker 1>They had black tubing in the ground. Hold on, hello,
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's in there.
<v Speaker 4>He's on the one.
<v Speaker 1>I got my got you. You're recording right, I'm recording
<v Speaker 1>this podcast right now. We're doing it. Well, just I
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about this now anyway, tell everybody about
<v Speaker 1>the tour we got going on.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're gonna enjoy the Midwest and the great Prairie
<v Speaker 3>grasslands in the in the in the late of the summer.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're going every summer. Saint Paul on the twenty first,
<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to Now we're going to Omaha.
<v Speaker 1>One of the shows might be canceled. They got cold feet.
<v Speaker 1>We might move the twenty third to Lincoln.
<v Speaker 3>I just I just talked.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're gonna know.
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna do us in Lincoln over there.
<v Speaker 5>What do you think?
<v Speaker 4>Actually?
<v Speaker 3>I was actually called to ask you, are we having
<v Speaker 3>this conversational life for real?
<v Speaker 4>Right Noweah?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're being recorded right now.
<v Speaker 3>Here's a bathroom, here's don't.
<v Speaker 1>Say nothing incriminating. You're being you're being recorded.
<v Speaker 4>Uh, they said they understand.
<v Speaker 3>They they I think it's a good idea to do
<v Speaker 3>it in Lincoln on the twenty third, Like they offered
<v Speaker 3>that that might be the move.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that might have been a good thing. They bring
<v Speaker 1>it to Lincoln. That lady didn't read my email yet.
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of a twat in I apologize you
<v Speaker 1>were sarcastic. I was just I was a little salty.
<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, I don't know anyway, Yeah, Lincoln
<v Speaker 1>might be thinking, okay, cool, Well we'll get this link.
<v Speaker 1>We got the link set up, the tour set up
<v Speaker 1>on a crime page page.
<v Speaker 3>So yes, yeah, we were doing Milwaukee on the eighteenth too.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that'll be Yeah, that's gonna be fun. Milwaukee and
<v Speaker 1>eight we gotta find Iway shows, we gotta find iris
<v Speaker 1>shows where Nature Center and.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Milwaukee on the eighteenth, and then Saint Paul banged
<v Speaker 5>brewing on the twenty first, right on the Sunday, September first,
<v Speaker 5>and then we're driving down to Omaha on the twenty second,
<v Speaker 5>and then we're being looks like it looks like tentitively
<v Speaker 5>pentitively we'll be in Lincoln on the twenty third, and
<v Speaker 5>in Kansas City on the twenty fourth.
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln was where we hit that deer with the mini van. Right.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, my friend, it.
<v Speaker 1>Was twelve years ago.
<v Speaker 3>Shit, yeah, yeah, you saved the day.
<v Speaker 1>Had a van. You had a van full of all
<v Speaker 1>the resale clothing. That was amazing.
<v Speaker 4>Jack.
<v Speaker 3>I remember driving the driving that advan because we took
<v Speaker 3>this like like northern route through Nevada and like stop
<v Speaker 3>at the hot springs and stuff, and we're just in
<v Speaker 3>these old towns. But I remember throwing open the sliding
<v Speaker 3>door of my two thousand Astro van. You know, actually
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a ninety five. Let me think
<v Speaker 3>about it.
<v Speaker 1>It was an older model. I think for sure. It
<v Speaker 1>was a wonderful vehicle, though it was.
<v Speaker 3>We'd throw open the sliding door like the fucking teenage
<v Speaker 3>mutant Ninja Turtles party van, and Jack would run out
<v Speaker 3>on these like back mountain roads and just clear the cattle.
<v Speaker 4>It was amazing.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, he used to be so good at that.
<v Speaker 1>He's still kicking. He's a little arthritic and has dementia,
<v Speaker 1>but you know, he's still kicking. But anyway, I'm okay.
<v Speaker 1>We got to find shows for Iowa. If anyone out
<v Speaker 1>there has shows for anywhere in Iowa. We're excited to
<v Speaker 1>come to you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we want to hang out.
<v Speaker 1>Where do they get acid in Iowa? Where's the acid
<v Speaker 1>chefs in Iowa? You know there's some.
<v Speaker 3>He's in the he's doing lab work.
<v Speaker 4>It's what I heard.
<v Speaker 1>So, But anyway, and then I think I'm gonna go
<v Speaker 1>to I'm gonna try to do the Oklahoma City in
<v Speaker 1>like the twenty seventh. I don't know if I yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all right, it'll be a nice time. All right, Hey,
<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot for setting up the links. Man, I
<v Speaker 1>really I owe you a solid you know, deep dish
<v Speaker 1>on me. When I'm there. We'll go to Rico Benny's.
<v Speaker 5>We'll go, we'll go, we'll go hang out and you.
<v Speaker 3>Know, we'll stay at days In and do some resistance
<v Speaker 3>band stuff together.
<v Speaker 1>It sounds great. That sounds great. And Rico Bene's in Chicago,
<v Speaker 1>Rico Ben's, And tell Aboudy about Rico Benny's. Where is that?
<v Speaker 1>At twenty second it's on Cermac.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's down under the highway. We're going to
<v Speaker 4>Rico Bene's.
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm buying. Well, I'm gonna fast before we go there.
<v Speaker 1>So there's room.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's the that's the move. You know, you
<v Speaker 3>could you just load up I do I try to
<v Speaker 3>do you know, as much as you can that day
<v Speaker 3>before you go take a nice bike.
<v Speaker 1>Right, I'll overeat, I'll overeat, and then I'll go puka
<v Speaker 1>in the alley like a balliemic then I'll go back
<v Speaker 1>in for round two.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>It's just fuck it.
<v Speaker 3>Like like the Roman Bacchan Knolls of old.
<v Speaker 1>All Right, okay, well, hey thanks, I'll call you back
<v Speaker 1>when this is done.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, great, sounds good.
<v Speaker 4>I have a good I have a good time with everybody.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, okay, all right, single bye thicker anyway,
<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, this fucking that you playing the native
<v Speaker 1>plant the hole for the Colorado Springs landscape in front
<v Speaker 1>of the national girls. Back to what we're talking about.
<v Speaker 1>You just put the solidago in there, put something, a
<v Speaker 1>couple of key stuff. Oh but it's messy. It's messy
<v Speaker 1>and it's bright. When in this in the off season,
<v Speaker 1>when everything dies, it's just a bunch of dead brown stems.
<v Speaker 1>Leave it. It's fine, it's see. That's the thing. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>there's no Some people do this where they're like, we
<v Speaker 1>have to make it digestible for for the boomers and
<v Speaker 1>for the square community. We have to make it digestible
<v Speaker 1>so that they don't complain it doesn't look bad. No,
<v Speaker 1>I say, no, you need a whole fucking paradigm shift.
<v Speaker 1>Rearrange it from the top down. Stop thinking that dead
<v Speaker 1>brown stems in the winter are messy. That's that's what
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be there, That's what that's what nature is,
<v Speaker 1>you know, but no one knows because they never spent
<v Speaker 1>time in it. Because all the habit that's been cleared,
<v Speaker 1>and we live in this myopic human world where we're
<v Speaker 1>the most important thing on the planet. We own the land,
<v Speaker 1>and nothing else lives here. It's it's a fucking it's diseased.
<v Speaker 1>It's a diseased mindset. You need to stop rearranging from
<v Speaker 1>the top down. As long as there's no fire hazard,
<v Speaker 1>as long as people are getting smacked in a face
<v Speaker 1>with branches and shit, don't worry about it, and you'll
<v Speaker 1>the light that comes back will blow your mind. But
<v Speaker 1>they could have just taken fuck, they could have taken
<v Speaker 1>a sleepy as Speciosa put it, all throughout that landscape
<v Speaker 1>in front of this you know it's next to a
<v Speaker 1>parking lot. I mean it still looked like hell. It
<v Speaker 1>was the American consumer landscape. It's just a giant heat
<v Speaker 1>island of asphalt and concrete. But they could have put
<v Speaker 1>milk weeds there and then, just just a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>fucking milk weed tubers in the ground. It sprout up,
<v Speaker 1>Get big stems of sleepy a speciosa mulch over it
<v Speaker 1>and it'll look awesome, you know. And then some guy
<v Speaker 1>comes on my Instagram. No offense to him, he says.
<v Speaker 1>As a landscaping professional, I'll be the first to tell
<v Speaker 1>you the native plant, lative plant landscapes take lots of maintenance.
<v Speaker 1>Now they don't. What do you do? You get some hedges,
<v Speaker 1>get some hedges, get some hedges. You trim it up
<v Speaker 1>for the squares and for code enforcement. You weed whack it,
<v Speaker 1>keep shit out of the paths. You don't create any
<v Speaker 1>fire hazards by getting shit too close to buildings. If
<v Speaker 1>it's a large tree or shrub, and then you just
<v Speaker 1>fucking let it go. It doesn't take maintenance. You're telling
<v Speaker 1>me mowing a lawn once a week is it maintenance
<v Speaker 1>or dumping a bunch of what about when they want
<v Speaker 1>to put something else in this landscape. Now they've got
<v Speaker 1>to move two metric tons of fucking what's essentially railroad
<v Speaker 1>ballast and then rip up all this polyester fiber. You're
<v Speaker 1>telling me that's not maintenance. That's like three days of work.
<v Speaker 1>It looks like hell, and it looks like shit, and
<v Speaker 1>stuff's dying anyway, and you still got to irrigate. I
<v Speaker 1>mean it just for it's for I live. Especially. The
<v Speaker 1>concept of the heat island is insane. You want to
<v Speaker 1>keep the sun off the ground. You want to keep
<v Speaker 1>the sun off the ground, Stop charging up the heat battery,
<v Speaker 1>use fucking trees, shrubs, a thick prairie, whatever. But this diseased,
<v Speaker 1>fucking mindset that says plants are messy and this is
<v Speaker 1>nice and neat has got to stop. It's fucking horrible.
<v Speaker 1>They do some feedix. They do it in Texas. It's
<v Speaker 1>a shit for brained idea. It's not xero escaping x eri.
<v Speaker 1>It's zero scaping ze r O. I think they do
<v Speaker 1>it in Florida as well. God it fucking kills me though.
<v Speaker 1>So it's so horrible, and it's just this avoid avoid
<v Speaker 1>plants that all costs We only like them if they're
<v Speaker 1>neatly spaced out and uniform, and they don't look mesthy.
<v Speaker 1>They're not methy. Look, you live in a fucking parking lot.
<v Speaker 1>All of America, where people live, is now a parking lot.
<v Speaker 1>We're so dedicated and hoard out the cars. All of
<v Speaker 1>America is a parking lot in a freeway. It already
<v Speaker 1>looks like shit. It can't look any worse. The fucking
<v Speaker 1>Dollar General, the fucking lou Boys, the fucking the AutoZone,
<v Speaker 1>all the plastic signs. I mean, it can't look any
<v Speaker 1>worse than that. What do you worry plants are, even
<v Speaker 1>if they're fucking invasive weeds from Europe? Araight, that still
<v Speaker 1>looks better than this shit. You already live in a
<v Speaker 1>fucking concrete trd, a concrete and plastic turd. You already
<v Speaker 1>have been alienated from the living world that supports you.
<v Speaker 1>How what do you got to lose the fucking you know,
<v Speaker 1>plant some fucking natives over there. It's gotta look messy.
<v Speaker 1>They take lots to maintenance. It's kind of like my
<v Speaker 1>shot out, Get the fuck out of here, Get out
<v Speaker 1>of here, go play fucking halo or what do they
<v Speaker 1>do go play Call of Duty? You I made fun
<v Speaker 1>of video games. I got a bunch of young men
<v Speaker 1>dming me in the comments. I said, hey, young man,
<v Speaker 1>we could just agree to disagree. It's okay. You know
<v Speaker 1>you'll come around eventually. I'm not knocking all video games.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a lot of these games are set up.
<v Speaker 1>There's no moderation involved. There's set up so that you
<v Speaker 1>have to devote three hundred hours to playing it and
<v Speaker 1>beating it. You know, it's not fucking tetris, so we
<v Speaker 1>could play for ten minutes. Put it out, okay. Anyway,
<v Speaker 1>speaking of Florida, let's call my friend Lily. See what
<v Speaker 1>she's got to say. Okay, hello, everybody, we're here with
<v Speaker 1>Lily Anderson. And I said hello Lily, Hi, Okay, any
<v Speaker 1>I got the soda stream. I had to go get
<v Speaker 1>some water. I feel it's it's uh, these are fucking
<v Speaker 1>great and then you can refill them with the CO
<v Speaker 1>two tank. Anyway, we're here to talk about Lily's holding
<v Speaker 1>a seminar on shit composting. Just kidding, that's me. I've
<v Speaker 1>been doing a shit compost thing. It works great with
<v Speaker 1>the pine shavings in a compost. Never mind, We'll talk
<v Speaker 1>about that some other time when we're off air. But
<v Speaker 1>uh uh, Lily works. You tell everybody your first you
<v Speaker 1>you were you work for the Native Florida Native Plant Society,
<v Speaker 1>and Florida has been going through some very scary public
<v Speaker 1>land grabs from some of the sleeves bag politicians there.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Florida really is it's like paradise lost in
<v Speaker 1>so many ways. It must have been gorgeous. You look
<v Speaker 1>at some of the paintings done in eighteen hundreds of
<v Speaker 1>the landscape there beautiful, and then you look at it
<v Speaker 1>now and it's like the landscape I just described where
<v Speaker 1>it's all. You know, it's a it couldn't get any
<v Speaker 1>and I suppose it could get uglier. Never say never
<v Speaker 1>with America, but you know, it definitely could. Yeah, they
<v Speaker 1>could definitely. Okay, So what's been going on there in
<v Speaker 1>terms of the public land crabs? Tell everybody about this.
<v Speaker 1>This is my people, mad Well.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think just in the last ten years,
<v Speaker 4>but especially the last five years, we've just based unprecedented
<v Speaker 4>development pressure across all public and private lands. And you know,
<v Speaker 4>the administration that's been in charge has been very friendly
<v Speaker 4>to developers and it although it's not, you know, not
<v Speaker 4>just one side of the islands, both sides of the island.
<v Speaker 4>I do think that. You know, last year we had
<v Speaker 4>a very a big success in fighting off development on
<v Speaker 4>our public lands, on our state parks. They wanted to
<v Speaker 4>and they they snuck it in really sneakily. They wanted
<v Speaker 4>to put hotels, pickleball courts, golf courses, a bunch of
<v Speaker 4>amenities that are not in line with the mission of
<v Speaker 4>state parks, and amenities that you can receive anywhere on
<v Speaker 4>other on privately on lands in those areas.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's so sleazy it belongs in as Simpsons cartoon.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a joke. It's such a joke, right to go.
<v Speaker 4>Nobody goes to a state park to play pickleball, you know,
<v Speaker 4>there are so many.
<v Speaker 1>Like caddle ball.
<v Speaker 4>It's like a little paddle on a tennis court.
<v Speaker 1>God, that's so fucking lame. Actually, maybe it could be cool.
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't knock it. I shouldn't notocket. I'm just saying,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I'm.
<v Speaker 4>All for people exercising and having fun and playing games,
<v Speaker 4>but those are you go to private, you know, facilities
<v Speaker 4>or public facilities on other and other areas not intact
<v Speaker 4>conservation lands.
<v Speaker 1>For that, we should mention the people doing this all
<v Speaker 1>they're all like laminated faces. They're all like these fucking
<v Speaker 1>disgusting pigs. That's me. This is I really go down
<v Speaker 1>an orgy of hate with this. Like I was just
<v Speaker 1>thinking about Ron DeSantis's butthole. You know, I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if he what kind of electrolysis treatment he does for
<v Speaker 1>it or whatever, but I really want to, I really
<v Speaker 1>want to get the full gamut of hating these people
<v Speaker 1>because what they stand for is so fucking disgusting. Ventriloquist
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucker anyway, So these people, I mean, where did
<v Speaker 1>this come from? Because this is kind of it's kind
<v Speaker 1>of insane. I mean, public are supposed to be public,
<v Speaker 1>and now they're coming for them. All over the country,
<v Speaker 1>especially in Florida.
<v Speaker 4>Developers are mass they they have bought out our politicians.
<v Speaker 4>But I think citizens have been you know, asleep at
<v Speaker 4>the wheel, and they're finally kind of waking up to
<v Speaker 4>the fact that it doesn't matter which political party you
<v Speaker 4>belong to. Both sides have been bought and paid for
<v Speaker 4>by industry and unfortunately, you know, when they make those
<v Speaker 4>large contribus they have expectations. They're implicit expectations about what
<v Speaker 4>they were received in returns, sometimes very explicit expectations, and
<v Speaker 4>and and that, and that was definitely one of them,
<v Speaker 4>but it was it was definitely just the process of
<v Speaker 4>how it happened. It was very clear that this was
<v Speaker 4>promised to them and they were going to serve it
<v Speaker 4>up no matter what. Yeah, it's just straight up corruption, definitely.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's straight up co correction all across Florida
<v Speaker 4>because they're building, you know, these housing developments across Florida
<v Speaker 4>that are super cheaply made and that a lot of
<v Speaker 4>them are in floodplains.
<v Speaker 1>I think because they know. I think that people building
<v Speaker 1>them and the politicians know they're not going to be
<v Speaker 1>there in fifty years, like most of.
<v Speaker 4>Them definitely smash and grab, smash and grab harvest as
<v Speaker 4>much as they can. I mean, it's like a form
<v Speaker 4>of money laundering. Even this new this construction is just
<v Speaker 4>a way to to make a bunch of profit, rip
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of profit off of what they can and
<v Speaker 4>they have, you know, they have they those housing developments
<v Speaker 4>are not going to survive the massively strong and increasingly
<v Speaker 4>frequent hurricanes that were now and they're.
<v Speaker 1>They're they're built out of likes. I think they're all
<v Speaker 1>built out of fucking radiota pine that's probably grown in
<v Speaker 1>Chile or New Zealand that itself knockdown beautiful, you know,
<v Speaker 1>intact diverse forest. It's all a fucking modern civilization. Really
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a Ponzi scheme.
<v Speaker 4>But it certainly is.
<v Speaker 1>But you see, you see these these neighborhoods, I see
<v Speaker 1>I got I would be on prescription opiate's if I
<v Speaker 1>lived in them. It's fucking horrible. It's got to be so,
<v Speaker 1>I know, dead on the inside.
<v Speaker 4>I think that's what That's what makes me, Yeah, further
<v Speaker 4>fueled disconnection from nature and uh disaffected, you know, hopeless,
<v Speaker 4>you know, just depressed society. I mean there's nothing when
<v Speaker 4>you came down to Miami and like the the traffic
<v Speaker 4>in Central and South Florida is literally drives you insane.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how anybody can maintain a sense of
<v Speaker 4>spiritual fitness while living in places like that. You become
<v Speaker 4>angry or you become an angry person.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's terrible for you. Or physical fitness too, I
<v Speaker 1>mean the way you get from.
<v Speaker 4>A fitness and spiritual fitness effect your physical well.
<v Speaker 1>I just think in a landscape that's so dominated by cars,
<v Speaker 1>where it's not just a simple grid system, but it's
<v Speaker 1>like curvy streets and all these fucked up they paint
<v Speaker 1>lines on the on the at these massive intersections to
<v Speaker 1>indicate where you go. It's just kind of a free
<v Speaker 1>for all clusterfuck of asphalt. It's so dangerous to bike
<v Speaker 1>or walk that if you want any kind of exercise
<v Speaker 1>you got to go to the fucking gym and listen
<v Speaker 1>to the meatheads grunting as they drop weights and breathing
<v Speaker 1>all the offcasting plastic from the machines, and listen to
<v Speaker 1>shitty potman like it's you know, I can see how it's.
<v Speaker 1>It's literally a trap. It is a trap. A lot
<v Speaker 1>of people get stuck in this lifestyle. They grow up
<v Speaker 1>in it, and they don't know anything else, and this
<v Speaker 1>is the way it's supposed to be, and so it's
<v Speaker 1>just what's and it's just what's handed to them on
<v Speaker 1>a plate. It's just what's what's dolloped on the plate
<v Speaker 1>in front of them. Now, fucking eat it and be
<v Speaker 1>a good boy or good girl and just go along
<v Speaker 1>with it. And then you know, thirty or forty years
<v Speaker 1>into it, their fucking life is falling apart. They're depressed,
<v Speaker 1>they're anxious. Maybe they're making money, but they hate themselves
<v Speaker 1>and their life. And it's it's there's you know, the
<v Speaker 1>it's a carrot on a stick existence. There's no fulfillment,
<v Speaker 1>and so the only thing to go for is chasing
<v Speaker 1>money and shiny objects and all this stupid shit that
<v Speaker 1>on leaves you more feeling more empty and around more
<v Speaker 1>phony increasingly phonier people. It yeah, seems to I think.
<v Speaker 4>I think one of my main missions in life is
<v Speaker 4>to remind people that we do not have to live
<v Speaker 4>this way, that this is not life does not have
<v Speaker 4>to be this miserable, and we are intended to lead
<v Speaker 4>a happy, free, joyous existence in connection with nature, and
<v Speaker 4>that that life is possible. And I think people are
<v Speaker 4>beginning to awaken to the realization that that is the case,
<v Speaker 4>and that they have much more power than they previously thought.
<v Speaker 4>It's just we've been so indoctrinated to be to accept
<v Speaker 4>our powerlessness and to think that we can't do anything.
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, even like a friend of mine is
<v Speaker 4>running for city commissioner and because I mean, I just
<v Speaker 4>left an FWC Advisory Group panel about a wildlife management area,
<v Speaker 4>and it's basically they get feedback from stakeholders as to
<v Speaker 4>how to manage this land, what are the prior athorities
<v Speaker 4>that stakeholders have for how the land is managed. And
<v Speaker 4>like the city commissioner there, there are usually city and
<v Speaker 4>county commissioners that attend, and often, you know, often those
<v Speaker 4>commissioners are developers or in bend with development in some way.
<v Speaker 4>And I was surprised that at this one the commissioner
<v Speaker 4>was very much not so. And he was talking about
<v Speaker 4>developmental pressure and his concerns because this a Senate bill
<v Speaker 4>was just passed recently, Senate Bill one eighty, which hands
<v Speaker 4>strings local governments from preventing development in their area. That
<v Speaker 4>it changes a lot of laws that make it harder
<v Speaker 4>for them to resist development.
<v Speaker 1>So they're like trying to eliminate any resistance.
<v Speaker 4>But but you know, at least this guy is doing something.
<v Speaker 4>At least this guy has realized, oh, I can do something.
<v Speaker 4>I can least the kind of a county commissioner to
<v Speaker 4>show up and do something rather than just sitting back
<v Speaker 4>and letting these people who are you know, raping and
<v Speaker 4>pillaging to have their way with them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Really, the development thing is crazy, Like I can't
<v Speaker 1>imagine that being someone's job. Like your job is just
<v Speaker 1>to build all these shitty buildings everywhere, and you suppot
<v Speaker 1>to find meaning and that's like that's like trying to
<v Speaker 1>find meaning in something like family law or like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>lawyers especially have it hard. I think, well, they don't,
<v Speaker 1>they choose it. Fuck them, But you know what I mean, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like if you're not working in like
<v Speaker 1>criminal defense, you know, if you're working on like real estate, larks,
<v Speaker 1>like everything you're studying is fake. It's all bullshit. It's
<v Speaker 1>like man made stuff. And that's what I just it
<v Speaker 1>seems so passionless. So I guess that's why they'll just
<v Speaker 1>end up going for money. That's the the means is,
<v Speaker 1>it's just a means to an end. But the development
<v Speaker 1>thing especially, and that's the thing is like Florida is
<v Speaker 1>there's been so much development there already. What do they
<v Speaker 1>have left? I guess that's why they're coming from the public,
<v Speaker 1>very little left.
<v Speaker 4>And I think that is why it's really beginning to
<v Speaker 4>the citizenry is beginning to wake up and not buy
<v Speaker 4>you know, just because my political party is in charge,
<v Speaker 4>I'm still going to have to defend public lands because
<v Speaker 4>we're beginning to see that, you know, regardless of whether
<v Speaker 4>you approve of whatever or you voted for whoever, like,
<v Speaker 4>there is going to be unprecedented pressure on our public
<v Speaker 4>lands to be developed, and if we don't all unite
<v Speaker 4>and stand up for them together, then we're going to
<v Speaker 4>lose them. And I think many people are beginning to realize,
<v Speaker 4>or they already realize, you know, their little plot of
<v Speaker 4>public land near them, how important it is to them.
<v Speaker 1>And I think, really quick me, that's the thing is
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of right wingers, obviously, especially in the Southeast,
<v Speaker 1>where it's just tradition, it's just culture, it's just what
<v Speaker 1>you do, and that's the way people think. They're just like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>everyone around me thinks it's right, so I'm gonna go
<v Speaker 1>with that. They just take Again, it's mostly for ideology.
<v Speaker 1>It's mostly just people taking what's put on the plane
<v Speaker 1>in front of them. There's very little independent, critical thinking.
<v Speaker 4>And they think that they can vote for who they right,
<v Speaker 4>they like, then they can sit back and trust that
<v Speaker 4>they'll have their best interest at heart, and they don't well.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of right wing I think a lot of
<v Speaker 1>people that vote for all this right wing bullshit, they don't,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just what's put on the plane in
<v Speaker 1>front of them. And they also get duped like that's
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the failure of woke identity politics the
<v Speaker 1>last ten fifteen years, is that it came from such
<v Speaker 1>a fucking elitist place in a way, like namely the
<v Speaker 1>halls of academia. It kind of abandoned the working class,
<v Speaker 1>and so it further pushed people that might not have
<v Speaker 1>fallen for the right wing bullshit so easily. It pushes
<v Speaker 1>them farther to the right, and they're like, well, these
<v Speaker 1>people are talking about all this shit. I understand, they're
<v Speaker 1>talking down to me and Tom, I'm tell me, I'm terrible.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna vote Trump and it's gonna make things better.
<v Speaker 1>And so the right wings able to rebrand itself is
<v Speaker 1>like the the rebellious party, Like there's somehow the rebels,
<v Speaker 1>you know, like they're not like the corporate shills and
<v Speaker 1>the police state authoritarians. They're somehow the rebels and they're
<v Speaker 1>on the side of the people. And that's what you're
<v Speaker 1>talking about. People are finally starting to see through this
<v Speaker 1>that it's bullshit. And I'm not saying like the Democrats
<v Speaker 1>aren't owned. I mean everyone's owned by corporations. I'm just saying,
<v Speaker 1>you know, the right was. It's amazing the pr job
<v Speaker 1>they've been able to do for themselves and how much
<v Speaker 1>it contradicts reality like they are, I would say almost
<v Speaker 1>more than the Democrats, the Party of corporatism, like the
<v Speaker 1>party that's gonna fuck you, the party that's gonna fuck
<v Speaker 1>you in the art. Yeah, I mean it's again all
<v Speaker 1>this like that Mike Lee guy, all these fucking pigs
<v Speaker 1>like they oh god, they're so fucking they're such villains man.
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, I don't know, I don't know anyway
<v Speaker 1>with Christy Who's who's the Pam BONDI She's from Florida, right.
<v Speaker 4>Yep, she's she used to be our attorney too.
<v Speaker 1>She looks like the fucking alien and drag from Mars attacks.
<v Speaker 1>You know what, the fucking it's amazing. Rick Scott too,
<v Speaker 1>that guy's a fucking pig. I mean, yeah, my god,
<v Speaker 1>what was Rick Scott was involved in some sort of
<v Speaker 1>development scheme.
<v Speaker 4>Right, medicare fraud?
<v Speaker 1>What was he doing?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Through nursing homes. He was frauding, defrauding medicare with he
<v Speaker 4>had like a whole bunch of nursing homes that he owned,
<v Speaker 4>and it was the largest medicare fraud in history.
<v Speaker 1>How did he get off.
<v Speaker 4>Paying some fine or something? You know, he was rich
<v Speaker 4>and so he got off and then he used that
<v Speaker 4>money to run for governor in one God, she's said
<v Speaker 4>in the most I think that was his campaign was
<v Speaker 4>the most expensive campaign for governor. And you know, that's
<v Speaker 4>what has happened. We've reached this point where you know,
<v Speaker 4>our political seats are bought and sold, and the people
<v Speaker 4>that have more money are the more soulless and the
<v Speaker 4>more despicable and the more you know, corrupt.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I called a friend of mine today and she's like,
<v Speaker 1>she's like seventy seventy five and she picks up. She's like, hi, Joey,
<v Speaker 1>I was just talking about fascist laughing, And so I'm
<v Speaker 1>like what, You're like, oh yeah, I mean you could
<v Speaker 1>tell she already. You know, she knows she's got like
<v Speaker 1>a decade left. Maybe she doesn't give a fuck. She's
<v Speaker 1>just like in that George Carl And I'm just here
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the show. But she was talking
<v Speaker 1>about that, and she's, you know, we just we just
<v Speaker 1>got to talking about the and so anyway, I was,
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to her, and you know, we got
<v Speaker 1>to talk about just the state of things, and I
<v Speaker 1>was like, it's never getting better here. She's like, this
<v Speaker 1>is like the country's banana republic time. It's going to
<v Speaker 1>be like this, you know, for the indefinite future, at
<v Speaker 1>least for the next couple of decades. Like the you think,
<v Speaker 1>like the Supreme courts that are going to reverse Citizens United.
<v Speaker 1>You think like we're ever going to have health care
<v Speaker 1>like anyone that got any politician that got into power
<v Speaker 1>and try to put in like a public universal health
<v Speaker 1>care option would be capped immediately because it's going to
<v Speaker 1>annihilate an entire industry. You think the owners of this
<v Speaker 1>country are going to let that happen, Like that's never
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just I don't know. So she's like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, where are you gonna go? I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably you know, keep a home base here and
<v Speaker 1>just you know, make sure I get out enough and
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, eventually, you know, just be searching for
<v Speaker 1>where I want to go to in the next ten
<v Speaker 1>years and she was like, well, what about Canada, And
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Canada is like the same fucking thing.
<v Speaker 1>It's just America light, you know, like yeah, you got
<v Speaker 1>health care, but like people there, there's people there that
<v Speaker 1>want to be the US, like they want Trump to
<v Speaker 1>take take Canada like this, say, stupid shit.
<v Speaker 4>Is all over the world. The rise of authoritarian regimes
<v Speaker 4>are it's cristine and populism.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that comes from. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if it's just this human be a sycophant and follow
<v Speaker 1>and then of course the sociopaths always make it to
<v Speaker 1>the top because that's what they want. They want power
<v Speaker 1>and money. I don't know, but I.
<v Speaker 4>Mean, I do think it's a natural result of capitalism.
<v Speaker 4>But I also think it is partially because we are
<v Speaker 4>reaching this apex with climate change and there is increasing
<v Speaker 4>chaos insecurity, fear, you know, and those types of regimes
<v Speaker 4>you know, feed off of off of things like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they why, because they're so good at pretending
<v Speaker 1>to be in power.
<v Speaker 4>They come in and pretend to be the big, strong
<v Speaker 4>daddy that's going to beat down any bad things that
<v Speaker 4>happen that might approach. But you're not going to beat
<v Speaker 4>down mother nature.
<v Speaker 1>That is kind of the archetype human condition. I guess,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like some big dumb chimp comes in
<v Speaker 1>and bangs a stick on the ground and everyone's Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's good, we'll follow this guy. It seems like you
<v Speaker 1>know what you do. It's I hope we make it.
<v Speaker 1>I hope we enlighten as a as a species past
<v Speaker 1>that one day. I guess it takes culture.
<v Speaker 4>I think I have.
<v Speaker 1>I believe we will, just might take a very long time,
<v Speaker 1>and it might be very rocky and bumpy a long way. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, So what's the status now with with public
<v Speaker 1>land being up for sale because the state Parks initiative
<v Speaker 1>was defeated last year.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we defeated that, but I think that kind of
<v Speaker 4>woke people up and they're beginning to take notice of
<v Speaker 4>a lot more of the public land, the corruption, the
<v Speaker 4>dealings of developers that is happening on both public and
<v Speaker 4>private lands in Florida. And so there has been this resurgence.
<v Speaker 4>And I was joking, I mean, because I feel like
<v Speaker 4>we need conservation needs to be bipartisan, and I do
<v Speaker 4>think that it is. It is, you know, a topic
<v Speaker 4>that is lifting the wool from the eyes of the veil,
<v Speaker 4>from the eyes of so many people on both the
<v Speaker 4>left and the right, that our politicians do not have
<v Speaker 4>their best interests in mind because of this, how corrupt
<v Speaker 4>this system is, and just that the people in power
<v Speaker 4>are the people who have realized that they can get
<v Speaker 4>their way if they hold a seat in political political office,
<v Speaker 4>so they're the ones that do it and not the
<v Speaker 4>people who have real integrity, morals and values. And that
<v Speaker 4>we need more people with real integrity, morals and values
<v Speaker 4>showing up to our commission meetings and running for local
<v Speaker 4>and state offices. But also we just need more of
<v Speaker 4>those people paying attention and showing up and speaking up
<v Speaker 4>when stuff like this happens. That I was joking with
<v Speaker 4>a friend of mine and I was like, we should
<v Speaker 4>start a new political party, the Florida Panther Party and
<v Speaker 4>have like that, you know that old black panther UH
<v Speaker 4>poster that had like the panther and it said it
<v Speaker 4>should say protect public lands by any means necessary. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>And I because I feel like we're getting to this
<v Speaker 4>point where, you know, there have been such massive cuts
<v Speaker 4>on the federal level for land management as well, like
<v Speaker 4>if our lands don't burn fire. Florida is a fire
<v Speaker 4>dependent ecosystems that the majority of ours of Florida, the
<v Speaker 4>majority of the lands here were burning on a almost
<v Speaker 4>yearly based.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, with the amount of rainfall you guys get,
<v Speaker 1>ship grows so fast it's gotta burn. You know, you
<v Speaker 1>can only reach a tipping point when there's too much.
<v Speaker 4>We have the amounts of storms we have, we have
<v Speaker 4>the really high rates of lightning as well, which we're
<v Speaker 4>starting fires. And you know, if if you know, the
<v Speaker 4>if this state is not able to manage our lands,
<v Speaker 4>then it's going to be I think it should be
<v Speaker 4>we should do it, we can do it. I think
<v Speaker 4>we need to be thinking outside of the box and
<v Speaker 4>understanding that we do have power, we can do more
<v Speaker 4>than what and that we just have to assert that
<v Speaker 4>in many ways.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but you need an intelligent populace the term
<v Speaker 1>right to run, to run ship yourself, you need intelligent populace.
<v Speaker 1>And that is where I mean all this shit, it
<v Speaker 1>makes sense what they're doing defunding education and also defunding
<v Speaker 1>the agencies that are in charge of public lands and
<v Speaker 1>all this shit.
<v Speaker 4>It's like just putting developers on the boards.
<v Speaker 1>It's so fucking dirty, man, it's so dirty. Like developed,
<v Speaker 1>there should be a law that bars developers from having
<v Speaker 1>any connection at all to state, to God like that
<v Speaker 1>just clear separation, so any in barring any influence, you know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>or make it harder for them at least, you know,
<v Speaker 1>make it much harder. They're still going to be coming
<v Speaker 1>for it, but make it harder. So yeah, it's sad.
<v Speaker 1>It's fucking crazy. I saw that. I don't know, man,
<v Speaker 1>I I it's again. I think, uh, you know, who
<v Speaker 1>was I talking to? Somebody was telling me like someone
<v Speaker 1>they've got some investor circle and people are talking about
<v Speaker 1>like it was. I think it was a friend of
<v Speaker 1>mine who was saying that he drank with He said
<v Speaker 1>he was like drinking. There's some like bar he goes to,
<v Speaker 1>and he was talking to some guy who's a fucking
<v Speaker 1>investor who he, you know, would have no contact with otherwise,
<v Speaker 1>like doesn't they're just live in different worlds. And the
<v Speaker 1>this guy was telling him, like, you know, a lot
<v Speaker 1>of like his investor friends aren't even putting money into
<v Speaker 1>large projects in any of the more humid Gulf Coast states, uh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, from Houston East basically because the hurricane intensities
<v Speaker 1>is going to be so intense and it's it's too volatile,
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be.
<v Speaker 4>That is reflected in the housing market right now. We
<v Speaker 4>have one of the worst housing markets in the nation.
<v Speaker 4>It's terrible and yet and yet uh, nobody's buying houses here.
<v Speaker 4>Everybody's leaving. There are multiple reasons for that, but one
<v Speaker 4>of the big ones it's the storms, but also the
<v Speaker 4>Santa's deregulated the insurance industry, so a bunch of insurers
<v Speaker 4>then pulled out because it's not a profitable place for
<v Speaker 4>them to be and they were only being held here
<v Speaker 4>by regulation. So the prices went up astronomically for home
<v Speaker 4>insurance and then some of a lot of them, several
<v Speaker 4>of them just pulled out of the state entirely because
<v Speaker 4>the reality is that if we don't stop burning fossil fuels,
<v Speaker 4>we will get stronger and more frequent hurricanes to the
<v Speaker 4>likes of which we couldnot even comprehend. And like Hurricane Michael,
<v Speaker 4>really change really opened my mind to the future of
<v Speaker 4>what Florida could be if we don't do anything. Because
<v Speaker 4>it used to be that hurricanes could not maintain their strength,
<v Speaker 4>their wind strength so far inland, but because the Gulf
<v Speaker 4>of Mexico is warming.
<v Speaker 1>Energy.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the energy, it's like, provides like a battery pack
<v Speaker 4>to these storms and they get bigger and they are
<v Speaker 4>strong enough to maintain their strength so far inland. Like
<v Speaker 4>so far, it's there will become a time when the
<v Speaker 4>entire Gulf coast is uninhabitable because we won't be able
<v Speaker 4>to rebuild fast enough. And insurers know that. Insurers believe
<v Speaker 4>in climate change, they know, but unfortunately.
<v Speaker 1>Climate it's so it's crazy to me too that like,
<v Speaker 1>this is a this has become so well, so efficiently
<v Speaker 1>politicized that people are able to deny what's right in
<v Speaker 1>front of them and what's happening. To anyone who's over
<v Speaker 1>the age of twenty and has seen it happen, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they're able to deny it. And it's like, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>the logic for anyone to be like, oh, yeah, the
<v Speaker 1>oil companies have invested interest in denying this, uh so,
<v Speaker 1>uh so this is obviously bullshit. We can see it happening.
<v Speaker 1>Like who's got if you're on the scale, who's got
<v Speaker 1>more of a propensity and reason to lie these nerdy
<v Speaker 1>scientists or to oil companies.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the oil companies are protecting this. You know, they've
<v Speaker 2>got our best interests at heart. They're the ones that
<v Speaker 2>are trying to to keep things, to keep humanity together.
<v Speaker 2>Like what like it's it's again, that too, is like
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck?
<v Speaker 5>Man?
<v Speaker 1>Like, how do you get people that's dumb? How do
<v Speaker 1>you convince them it's wild?
<v Speaker 4>You deny them a good education and make them miser.
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's yeah, it's all culture too, like
<v Speaker 1>those I think a lot of those people.
<v Speaker 4>Culture is designed to make us.
<v Speaker 1>But also well, well no, I'm just talking about the
<v Speaker 1>way culture works. It's like you step out of line
<v Speaker 1>and go against the ideology espoused by your culture, you're
<v Speaker 1>gonna get you're gonna turn heads, and you're gonna be ostracized,
<v Speaker 1>whether it's left or right. And so if you start saying, oh,
<v Speaker 1>climate change is happening, people, you know, the people at
<v Speaker 1>the fucking bar with you wherever are going to start saying,
<v Speaker 1>oh this is you know, they're gonna call you a
<v Speaker 1>pussy or you know whatever, liberal libtard whatever, Like it's
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, I mean. And so there's there's there's a
<v Speaker 1>social reward and punishment system for going against it, And
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what the same thing why I think
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people voted for Trump even though he's
<v Speaker 1>like an obvious shit bags. People know that they would
<v Speaker 1>be looked down on if they vote for or like
<v Speaker 1>why a lot of progressives like come on, Kamala Harris sucked,
<v Speaker 1>but like a lot of especially like young Rezuomers probably
<v Speaker 1>were like, I'm not going to vote for her because
<v Speaker 1>that would that, you know, I'll get looked down on
<v Speaker 1>by my group, even though it's basically a last ditch
<v Speaker 1>effort to save, you know, prevent this dirtier shit bag
<v Speaker 1>from getting an office. Like again, if you gotta, if
<v Speaker 1>you got a choice, been getting slapped in the face
<v Speaker 1>or like scalped, I'll take the slap in the face,
<v Speaker 1>which is what you know, I'll vote for Harris was whatever.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it doesn't matter anymore. But again, there's there's
<v Speaker 1>it's all the way humans work is all social rewards
<v Speaker 1>and punishment. It's and that's what's so frustrating for me
<v Speaker 1>about it. I guess because most people generally stick to
<v Speaker 1>that that uh, that rule. So anyway, but you know,
<v Speaker 1>with with any of this dark shit that you know
<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about I think again, the answer is
<v Speaker 1>always in reconnecting with the living world. You know, whether
<v Speaker 1>it's just having a fucking like eight by ten patch
<v Speaker 1>of native plants in your yard where you can watch
<v Speaker 1>all the birds and shit coming to visit it, or
<v Speaker 1>whether it's being able to take a walk along the
<v Speaker 1>fucking you know, a canal that hasn't been mode, where
<v Speaker 1>there's actual plant life, where there's something alive that's not
<v Speaker 1>like a planted shitty crape myrtle or some horticultural atrocity,
<v Speaker 1>you know, the landscape and garbage something like that. I
<v Speaker 1>think that always it feels good for people. I think
<v Speaker 1>that is what you know, we need more of that.
<v Speaker 1>We need people. You show them that, and you at
<v Speaker 1>least half of them are going to become converts, you know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yes, And what we do to the land is
<v Speaker 4>what we do to ourselves. And so when we harm
<v Speaker 4>the land, we are harming ourselves mentally, physically and spiritually.
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, waking people up to the fact that everything
<v Speaker 4>is interconnected and we have the strength to turn things around.
<v Speaker 4>And I know that we all, many of us feel
<v Speaker 4>really really hopeless right now, but I I do not.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I struggle with it at times, But when
<v Speaker 4>I do, I take that hopelessness to nature, and I
<v Speaker 4>encourage everybody to do this. When you are feeling hopeless
<v Speaker 4>and lost and scared, go outside to a natural area
<v Speaker 4>that you can access and ask for what you need.
<v Speaker 4>You know, put your hands in the earth and ask
<v Speaker 4>for cry if you need to stop, but.
<v Speaker 1>I don't care.
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, sorry, I'm gonna you gotta let me.
<v Speaker 1>Too, and wish for the swift death of your enemies.
<v Speaker 4>So I want to say, ask for what you need,
<v Speaker 4>Ask for the strength you need, Ask for the to
<v Speaker 4>re relieved of this burden of grief, because I think
<v Speaker 4>so many of us that are you know, sensitive and
<v Speaker 4>in touch with the natural world, we are grieving right
<v Speaker 4>now and we have to process this grief in order
<v Speaker 4>to heal and move forward as a society. And so
<v Speaker 4>deposit your grief into the earth. Ask for the strength
<v Speaker 4>and power that you need. Whatever you need, you can
<v Speaker 4>ask for that and know that that strength and power
<v Speaker 4>is all around you, especially if you're anywhere near trees
<v Speaker 4>or earth. You can go outside sometimes, you know, I'll
<v Speaker 4>just go outside with my shoes off and touch the
<v Speaker 4>ground and try to feel that strength returning to me
<v Speaker 4>and I know that sounds when we were cuckoo or whatever.
<v Speaker 4>I don't really care. At this point. We're in very
<v Speaker 4>dark times and we this is a must for people
<v Speaker 4>to awaken to our connection with the earth and our
<v Speaker 4>dependency upon it.
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's okay to ask for like a
<v Speaker 1>piano to fall on like fucking jd Vance's that or
<v Speaker 1>something too. I think that's right.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sometimes I imagine a piano wire around the neck.
<v Speaker 1>Now I talk about a whole piano. I want like it.
<v Speaker 1>I want it to be entertaining. I want like a
<v Speaker 1>fall from above pianos and safets and shit. Anyway, Okay, well,
<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot, thanks Lily. I appreciate that you're giving
<v Speaker 1>us the info on a Yeah, Florida's fucking anyway. You
<v Speaker 1>have so Lake Wales Ridge in October. I'll call you
<v Speaker 1>about that. We'll be out there, all right, Okay, all right, bye,
<v Speaker 1>all right, anyway, that's two hours right there, we hit
<v Speaker 1>the mark. Thanks for listening. I appree, I appreciate I
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. Thank you so much for coming here and
<v Speaker 1>listening to Anyway. Uh, we're gonna be on tour and
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we're taking a fucking club wagon
<v Speaker 1>or what. But we're gonna be on tour the club
<v Speaker 1>Al's club Wagon on my truck and I'm gonna be
<v Speaker 1>doing it. It's a two hour presentation on lawn killing
<v Speaker 1>horticultural atrocities, how ridiculous modern American landscaping is dope native
<v Speaker 1>prairie plants. Uh. And then a lot of screaming and shouting.
<v Speaker 1>And that's screaming. It's like an elevated to It's like this.
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a very abrasive. It's very abraive. I
<v Speaker 1>don't appreciate it. It's very abraid, very abrasive. I can
<v Speaker 1>tell down to profanity if you got if there's kids
<v Speaker 1>in there, if I see kids, I'm not gonna be
<v Speaker 1>cursing so much. I'll turn it down. Okay, no kids.
<v Speaker 1>It's a cluster fuck of curse words. It's profanity, you know.
<v Speaker 4>And uh.
<v Speaker 1>And then we'll be selling printing a bunch of shirts
<v Speaker 1>in a garage. Kill your lawn shit, you know, have
<v Speaker 1>some uh, maybe get some yard signs or something too,
<v Speaker 1>and it'll be a nice time. Why don't you come out.
<v Speaker 1>We're doing the Midwest, We're awarding the big city. We're
<v Speaker 1>awarding the coastal cities for this coastal elite global coastal
<v Speaker 1>elite globalist. We're gonna be We're gonna do Omaha, Lincoln, Hello, Nebraska.
<v Speaker 1>We're doing who's gonna hook up Iway shows? Is there
<v Speaker 1>anyone who can hook up shows in Des Moines, Davenport,
<v Speaker 1>Rapid City? Any it? He's in between. I one never
<v Speaker 1>gets any love. We're here to show it love. And
<v Speaker 1>check out that uh patch of salvia azarrea but a
<v Speaker 1>highways stop. I don't know. Look it's I think it's
<v Speaker 1>a inand I don't think my I don't think I
<v Speaker 1>have obscured the location. Someone gets seed of that and
<v Speaker 1>grow that, or you're an asshole if you live in
<v Speaker 1>that area and you're not trying to grow salvia azaria
<v Speaker 1>azeria however you want to pronounce it, you're an asshole.
<v Speaker 1>And uh what else? Oh yeah, and join the Patreon
<v Speaker 1>if you want to hear me reading the first twenty
<v Speaker 1>five thirty minutes of Concrete Botany, the book that's due
<v Speaker 1>out in April. I think that's something that have a
<v Speaker 1>grocery day, go for your somebody goes off to my
<v Speaker 1>girl choice say after dada hate. They drink doles, bears, Hawks, socks.
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<v Speaker 6>forehead and hair combs to the side, looking like a
<v Speaker 6>piece of foam builk Speaker's red cooler. Eighty five Bear soupers,
<v Speaker 6>Polar sausage proverbs, walking like my cockers, Sta syatams, no
<v Speaker 6>shirt jewels could get a case of squirt white suppists
<v Speaker 6>because I forgot to get the minute rice. So I'm
<v Speaker 6>back in the damnfield to get a stinking back of ice.
<v Speaker 6>To get a stinking back of rice. My wife Jorge
<v Speaker 6>skewt but tastes really looked me like I ate juicy
<v Speaker 6>fruit had me dancing like Chris Penn and footloose. Eighty
<v Speaker 6>five Walter Rubles old style back of culs, go to
<v Speaker 6>a stool, tools and weed whacker fuel eighty five Bear sulvers,
<v Speaker 6>stay seattles, got room play a basement, suff up shot fat,
<v Speaker 6>clean up, cook rox cook chops here.
<v Speaker 1>Heat shouldn't be that hot.
<v Speaker 6>Keep your juices in the chops, keep your juices in
<v Speaker 6>the brots. Serve from my favorite place, Tato salad and
<v Speaker 6>great pop. My favorite actor was Dinning. He longed before
<v Speaker 6>he played night, but Barrener was a substitute.
<v Speaker 1>Everything was going right.
<v Speaker 6>Even after Jordan left and Dave Corzine retired. So dust
<v Speaker 6>the s wild throws, Mike Dicker got fired. Favorite actor
<v Speaker 6>dnnity favorite drink old dolls, bears, fox socks, bulls, play
<v Speaker 6>softball with the guys. Wife may curly fries, drink about
<v Speaker 6>four doves grounded out two by flies in the view
<v Speaker 6>of down Western Stop and get some more rots on sale,
<v Speaker 6>chicken and tiny sausages going pop.
<v Speaker 1>This week fishing trip.
<v Speaker 6>Gotta get some new flies. Wife packed turkey SUPs, jay
<v Speaker 6>chips and beach pie. Swash a little danaheat, pull out
<v Speaker 6>the laser. This it's like for one, two three, it's
<v Speaker 6>Baronser makes great flicks. Listen to the shuffle for running
<v Speaker 6>Richard Dispard. Damn I left those orange pops and the
<v Speaker 6>trunk got a skylark speak a couple old dolls ship.
<v Speaker 6>There's my damn wife, you know one the outby back.
<v Speaker 6>I gotta get some more heights back in the damn Viewick,
<v Speaker 6>I should go to the damn bar. I saw I
<v Speaker 6>think Kownsion, the Eatons and a sports car.
<v Speaker 1>Favorite to act O Danahey, favorite drink, old Dolls, Bears, Hawks, socks.
<v Speaker 6>Bulls, play a little poker, spend time with the wife,
<v Speaker 6>take her off the Bennegains, see if they cook the
<v Speaker 6>chops right, go over, get a laser with this projection
<v Speaker 6>of string TV for to those Italian beef and the
<v Speaker 6>movie starting. Tommy b Back in the Damn Buick cut
<v Speaker 6>on w c KG, caught us song by Cliff Bryant
<v Speaker 6>interview with Dennahee. So I'm trying with down Western Ham.
<v Speaker 6>I think I've gotta stop his ayers. Got a splitting
<v Speaker 6>the freaking headic So I popped a couple of Bears.
<v Speaker 6>I'm back in the Damn Buick. Think I need an
<v Speaker 6>oil check The battis of George Thorow with smoke spots
<v Speaker 6>on my back. Read the sports section. Bears in their
<v Speaker 6>old line trying to find a decent Viero winning more
<v Speaker 6>south Side.
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<v Speaker 1>the hard Rock and.
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