Why Ellie James Wants YOU To Touch Her Boobs

<v Speaker 1>And that's why I never read the comment.
<v Speaker 2>I just want to like, I'm not even gonna look
<v Speaker 2>amazing tonight.
<v Speaker 1>I love what you're wearing. Oh my god, we're all.
<v Speaker 3>I have an angry closs, that is, But that's hard,
<v Speaker 3>like unless it's like NBA team or something like whoa, Hello, everybody,
<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. My guest today left
<v Speaker 3>a career as an ICU dietician to become one of
<v Speaker 3>adult content's most recognizable rising creators, bisexual, polyamorous, and by
<v Speaker 3>her own count, has had over a thousand people touch
<v Speaker 3>her boobs. We will get into that because apparently you
<v Speaker 3>could line up for it, which today we're talking Reddit's
<v Speaker 3>not Safe for work, evolution, polyamory, boygolt content, and why
<v Speaker 3>she still answers every DM herself.
<v Speaker 1>This is Ellie James.
<v Speaker 2>Hi, everybody, thank you so much for having me, Holly.
<v Speaker 1>I just think back to when we first amy.
<v Speaker 2>Or on the red carpet at.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, you're right. Did we actually like introduce ourselves
<v Speaker 1>to each other or were we just next to each other.
<v Speaker 2>Briefly commiserated over them being such sticklers about the rope?
<v Speaker 1>Oh right?
<v Speaker 2>But then it was like time to go. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So that was I swear to God, like I'm I
<v Speaker 3>get so angry. Basically, they like wouldn't allow us interviewers
<v Speaker 3>on the red carpet with the people walking it for
<v Speaker 3>fire hazard reasons, even though the red carpet was really
<v Speaker 3>big and people were walking all over, right, so we
<v Speaker 3>had to stand. They made us like put up a rope.
<v Speaker 3>What are they? Yeah, the velvet rope. There's a certain
<v Speaker 3>word for whatever. And then we had to stand on
<v Speaker 3>the other side of it. So like people would come
<v Speaker 3>up to us.
<v Speaker 2>I'm in spikey heel like un concrete and they're standing
<v Speaker 2>behind me and I'm like, how are you today?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was so awkward because you can't turn and
<v Speaker 3>face them because then your backs to the camera, and
<v Speaker 3>so I had to be like, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, we'd interview.
<v Speaker 2>People of the work double chinned so hard, like the
<v Speaker 2>whole you double.
<v Speaker 1>Chin I am like very double I'm a big double chinner. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>It was very frustrating, but I.
<v Speaker 2>Remember someone out there who's kink is double chins, so
<v Speaker 2>we did it for them.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a whole I mean, speaking of Reddit, which
<v Speaker 3>I know we'll get into this. There's a whole like
<v Speaker 3>subreddit about like nasal cavities, like people who are really
<v Speaker 3>big into nasal cavities.
<v Speaker 1>Madison Ivy told me this.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean, if you dig on Reddit, there is
<v Speaker 2>a thing for everything.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. That's true. All right.
<v Speaker 3>So Ellie, let's start from the beginning, right, How did
<v Speaker 3>you get into the adult industry because you started off
<v Speaker 3>as a biomedical engineering and ICU dietitian.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I first studied biomedical engineering, mostly because I was
<v Speaker 2>really good at math and science. And I got into
<v Speaker 2>engineering and I thought I want to do medicine so
<v Speaker 2>I could put them both together. And after a year
<v Speaker 2>I realized there's no medicine. I mean it was like
<v Speaker 2>a lot of I could maybe make prostic limbs, but
<v Speaker 2>it would still be me working with machinery or technology,
<v Speaker 2>not medicine. And so I pieced out of that and
<v Speaker 2>I switched to dietetics, which is like medical nutrition sciences,
<v Speaker 2>and I specialized in people who can't eat, so a
<v Speaker 2>lot of sad reasons. You couldn't eat. If you're in
<v Speaker 2>a coma on a ventilator, I still my cancer. If
<v Speaker 2>you're very end of life a lot of things, so
<v Speaker 2>I specialized in that there's not a lot of people
<v Speaker 2>who did, and I would do tube feedings, ivy nutrition,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of labs and stuff, and I loved it.
<v Speaker 2>And I ended up covering a good chunk of southern
<v Speaker 2>California at the hospital system I was in and just
<v Speaker 2>taking care of all their patients who weren't able to eat,
<v Speaker 2>and was a very sad job, but it was very
<v Speaker 2>rewarding and I was good at it, and that was
<v Speaker 2>in its own way rewarding to just like just I
<v Speaker 2>just was crushing it. I was feeling so good. And
<v Speaker 2>then COVID happened and everyone's on a ventilator, and I said,
<v Speaker 2>we need more people to help me do this job
<v Speaker 2>because I can't. I just like, I don't want to
<v Speaker 2>make a mistake and hurt someone any more people and
<v Speaker 2>they told me no. But what they didn't know is
<v Speaker 2>I had a secret Reddit page where for about a
<v Speaker 2>year or so, I had been posting naked pictures, naked videos,
<v Speaker 2>whatever little slutty things I wanted to do and gaining
<v Speaker 2>a pretty big following. And everyone kept saying start an
<v Speaker 2>only fans, starting OnlyFans, and I was like, I have
<v Speaker 2>this job. I don't want to possibly ruin it by
<v Speaker 2>having an OnlyFans And so I told them, if you
<v Speaker 2>don't hire someone else, I'm going to leave. And I
<v Speaker 2>think they were trying to call my bluff and they
<v Speaker 2>were like, no, you won't. And so I went home
<v Speaker 2>that day and I started OnlyFans and my wonderful Reddit
<v Speaker 2>following was like, yeah, we'll support you. They jumped on there,
<v Speaker 2>and I went in the next day and put in
<v Speaker 2>my two week notice and said I found another job.
<v Speaker 2>So genuinely just wanted to share my boobs with the
<v Speaker 2>world and was going to do it for free for
<v Speaker 2>the rest of my life. And things just turned in
<v Speaker 2>a way where it became my job.
<v Speaker 1>And I just realized you could actually make money off I.
<v Speaker 2>Could, I could actually make money off of it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god, that's funny.
<v Speaker 3>Fun So question just going back to your job in
<v Speaker 3>the ICU, because it's so interesting how many women worked
<v Speaker 3>in the medical field and then came into adult content
<v Speaker 3>or work in adult content and then move into the
<v Speaker 3>medical field. My sister's in icy unurse, okay, and I
<v Speaker 3>spent a lot of time in the ICU last year,
<v Speaker 3>not myself but someone very close to me, and so
<v Speaker 3>you said it was a sad job, Like did it
<v Speaker 3>make you feel like, how did it make you see life?
<v Speaker 1>Didn't make you see life differently?
<v Speaker 2>Well, A couple points I can say is I think
<v Speaker 2>the reason that the adult content industry and like nursing
<v Speaker 2>our ICU medical jobs are so easily interchangeable, it's because
<v Speaker 2>you have to be very comfortable with the human body,
<v Speaker 2>with the processes of the human body, and with seeing
<v Speaker 2>people naked or being naked, or just nudity in general,
<v Speaker 2>or just knowing that like some of those things are
<v Speaker 2>kind of nasty but real and that's life and whatever.
<v Speaker 2>And so I think working in one or the other
<v Speaker 2>kind of gets you ready to switch pretty easily.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And you also learn to like empathize and care about
<v Speaker 2>people in the struggle they're going through in both of
<v Speaker 2>those jobs, so they do they do feed into each
<v Speaker 2>other pretty well. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, there's a real like EmPATH
<v Speaker 3>to both, right, because you're connecting with people in both situations.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just a recognition that, like, bodies are what
<v Speaker 2>they are, let's do what we can for them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>My job specifically was tough because if you're at the
<v Speaker 2>point where you can't eat by mouth anymore. You're in
<v Speaker 2>a bad situation. So I wasn't getting a lot of
<v Speaker 2>people who like had a heart attack and then they
<v Speaker 2>recover and they go home. Like that wasn't the people
<v Speaker 2>that I was seeing. I specifically had a lot of
<v Speaker 2>people who were paralyzed. And I won't ruin this podcast
<v Speaker 2>by telling their stories, but like they would tell me
<v Speaker 2>their stories about and they're like eighteen thirty whatever, They're
<v Speaker 2>gonna be paralysed for the rest of their life, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming in telling them, yeah, you can't eat ever again,
<v Speaker 2>so you're gonna lay here without moving or eating for
<v Speaker 2>the next seventy years. It was just constantly soul draining.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm pretty good at being optimistic and being cheerful,
<v Speaker 2>and so despite that situation, I would bring my energy
<v Speaker 2>and handsome cheer to everybody and then like leave just
<v Speaker 2>like drained of everything. And I was happy to do it.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's tough and it's sad and it's straining,
<v Speaker 2>and it also correlates really well with something like being live.
<v Speaker 2>Like I come in and I give all my energy
<v Speaker 2>and then it ends and I'm like, oh, whoa like
<v Speaker 2>I just like poured my cup out. So they do
<v Speaker 2>go together well, But in that job, I was literally
<v Speaker 2>saving life sometimes and very rarely, if ever would someone
<v Speaker 2>say thank you. Most of my patients kind of couldn't,
<v Speaker 2>but like, no one thanked me. Families, doctors, no one
<v Speaker 2>thanked me. And now people thank me all the time.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saving lives out here, I'm just putting
<v Speaker 2>my boobs on the internet. And they were like, wow,
<v Speaker 2>thank you, Like my life was so sad and now
<v Speaker 2>it's happy, thank you, or like you're amazing, thank you,
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like this is what this is what I
<v Speaker 2>mean thankful. So it's a very thankless job to do
<v Speaker 2>medical work, especially I see you. Yeah, not that I
<v Speaker 2>expected any of them to be like have anything left
<v Speaker 2>to give to say thank you to me.
<v Speaker 3>At the moment, but yeah, I remember when we left
<v Speaker 3>the icee. You we were so thankful to the nurses.
<v Speaker 1>That's nice.
<v Speaker 2>But you probably didn't see the dietitian except for when
<v Speaker 2>she was in there giving bad news or I.
<v Speaker 1>Mean we had like a dietitian.
<v Speaker 2>I think you came in.
<v Speaker 3>Because it was brain surgery, but yeah, I mean she
<v Speaker 3>definitely didn't. I don't remember like her giving any particular
<v Speaker 3>like she.
<v Speaker 2>Was probably just there to like visually look at the
<v Speaker 2>person and make sure there's no real signs of like
<v Speaker 2>a efficiency of something. Yeah, but usually we go in
<v Speaker 2>and we just make a little small chat and like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>is there anything you want to about nutrition? But really
<v Speaker 2>we're doing all the calculations in her head and checking
<v Speaker 2>that this person looks nutritionally sound.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, so happy stuff.
<v Speaker 3>When you made that leap to doing OnlyFans, were you
<v Speaker 3>a little bit nervous or did you really feel like
<v Speaker 3>I can support myself this way or did you wait
<v Speaker 3>until you were making some money on that platform before
<v Speaker 3>you quit your job.
<v Speaker 2>I started my own fans and the next day put
<v Speaker 2>in my two week notice. But I when a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people go into this industry, they start from the
<v Speaker 2>ground up and build a following. I had already done
<v Speaker 2>that without needing or expecting money.
<v Speaker 3>And those are back in the days when like Reddit
<v Speaker 3>was like yeah, a more powerful tool, right, And.
<v Speaker 2>I do think because the culture of Reddit is very anti.
<v Speaker 1>Sex work promotion for sure, earth yeah.
<v Speaker 2>That they appreciated that I was just like a slutty,
<v Speaker 2>innocent girl who was sharing my boobs, you know what
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Yeah, yeah, So it was easy and I
<v Speaker 2>was putting out great stuff, and I did build a
<v Speaker 2>really significant following. I think when I started my Only Fans,
<v Speaker 2>I had somewhere near like two hundred thousand followers on
<v Speaker 2>Reddit and so it was easy to convert a good
<v Speaker 2>chunk of them over. Day one was probably my best day,
<v Speaker 2>single day ever.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and so I felt pretty confident. I actually
<v Speaker 2>felt overly confident because I was like, I'm gonna make
<v Speaker 2>this much every day for the rest of my life.
<v Speaker 2>And I threw myself a giant birthday party like two
<v Speaker 2>months later in Mexico and invited all my flant friends
<v Speaker 2>and flew them down there and hired a chef and
<v Speaker 2>a massus and I was like, I'm the next Kardashian
<v Speaker 2>and then realize that that's like not it. I was
<v Speaker 2>going to make every day for the rest of my life.
<v Speaker 2>But I was pretty confident at the time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Now, being on OnlyFans for a while and other sites,
<v Speaker 3>and you're also like on fansly, how do you keep
<v Speaker 3>like things consistent? And because we're talking earlier and you said,
<v Speaker 3>like your income has been pretty consistent, like how do
<v Speaker 3>you maintain that.
<v Speaker 2>I am very consistent on any page where people are paying,
<v Speaker 2>because I value that they are wanting to give me
<v Speaker 2>money for what I do, so I'm not going to
<v Speaker 2>let them down. So I'm very consistent about posting, keeping
<v Speaker 2>things entertaining and fun. But on social media, I am
<v Speaker 2>not consistent. And sometimes I will go a month, maybe
<v Speaker 2>even two, without making a single post anywhere on social media.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>And I think that a lot of people who only
<v Speaker 2>follow me on socials are like, oh, yeah, she comes
<v Speaker 2>and goes, like she must not be consistent on her
<v Speaker 2>paid pages. But I am on OnlyFans fansly every day
<v Speaker 2>for years and years, and I got some great stuff.
<v Speaker 2>I'm there. I mean to take little chunks and scatter
<v Speaker 2>them around, but yeah, I just I just lose the
<v Speaker 2>motivation a lot of times. And so there's another thing
<v Speaker 2>where like, when you post on social platforms, you open
<v Speaker 2>yourself up to a lot of negativity and a lot
<v Speaker 2>of criticism that doesn't really happen on paid pages because
<v Speaker 2>why would someone pay to come and insult you.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I've had some of those, but for the
<v Speaker 1>most part.
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's a little bit easier to post there
<v Speaker 2>every day and put up whatever I want, and then
<v Speaker 2>I feel a little more drained. Sometimes if I am, I.
<v Speaker 1>Just try not to a social media manager or someone
<v Speaker 1>to like help you.
<v Speaker 2>I briefly I was dating a girl for a few years.
<v Speaker 2>I briefly had her helping me with things, but then
<v Speaker 2>she just got very busy and in that short period
<v Speaker 2>of time and she was helping me, I became emotionally
<v Speaker 2>disconnected from my work, even just sharing some of the responsibilities.
<v Speaker 2>So no, so I just I just do it all
<v Speaker 2>and I do what I want. And if I was
<v Speaker 2>hurting for money, I think I'd hustle harder, and of
<v Speaker 2>course I can always make more, but I would just
<v Speaker 2>rather do what makes me happy while I'm comfortable right now.
<v Speaker 3>I think that sometimes, and I think about I think
<v Speaker 3>I do this a lot where I'm so like focused
<v Speaker 3>on like the career building and all of that that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I enjoy it. Like when I
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking this to myself the other day, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you know, my next goal is to buy a house,
<v Speaker 3>right yeah, for my family.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like when I get the house, will I
<v Speaker 1>be like satisfied. Yeah? I don't think so.
<v Speaker 3>No, you know, I don't think like I'll ever get there, no,
<v Speaker 3>which in a.
<v Speaker 2>Way you don't want to because then you lose all
<v Speaker 2>this motivation and then.
<v Speaker 3>You yeah, yeah, there's that too, But then it's just like,
<v Speaker 3>how do you find this balance where you're motivated to
<v Speaker 3>work and like better yourself and grow your career and
<v Speaker 3>also not.
<v Speaker 2>I think innately I have that pretty well. I don't
<v Speaker 2>do things I don't want to do unless and you know,
<v Speaker 2>if I need to, I'm gonna do the work that
<v Speaker 2>I need to do. My dad's a really hard working person.
<v Speaker 2>My mom's a really hard working person. So I know, like,
<v Speaker 2>when it's time to work hard, you work hard. But
<v Speaker 2>if I don't need to, I'm pretty good at just
<v Speaker 2>like respecting my time and only doing what I want.
<v Speaker 2>And I've never ever in this industry done something and
<v Speaker 2>looked back and was like I wish I hadn't done that.
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about Reddit.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, when you first started, because you started on twenty nineteen,
<v Speaker 3>what was it not safe for work? Reddit landscape like
<v Speaker 3>back then compared to now, because it's so different now.
<v Speaker 3>That used to be like the way to promote yourself.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now I feel like it's I feel like twenty
<v Speaker 2>nineteen was even before people really were promoting themselves. There
<v Speaker 2>was HUT. I don't know if you remember that page. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>before OnlyFans got big, there was Hut. But not a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people were promoting at all on social or
<v Speaker 2>on Reddit. It was a lot of gone wild vibes
<v Speaker 2>and everyone was just putting themselves out there for the
<v Speaker 2>fun of it, and there wasn't this pressure for your
<v Speaker 2>picture to be great, and so that made things even
<v Speaker 2>more fun, Like you just snap a picture, put it up,
<v Speaker 2>and now the landscape has so much more like promotion
<v Speaker 2>and trying to be better than the people around you
<v Speaker 2>and try to get noticed and have the right caption,
<v Speaker 2>and I think that that keeps people away. And then
<v Speaker 2>a lot of agencies are on there and they don't
<v Speaker 2>understand how Reddit works, but they go into Reddit anyway
<v Speaker 2>and understanding how Reddit works, and like how subreddits work,
<v Speaker 2>and why you would post on this page not for yourself,
<v Speaker 2>but because it matches the folder, the category of what
<v Speaker 2>it is. Reddit was created before there was like a
<v Speaker 2>good search engine so that people who wanted to see
<v Speaker 2>turtles could go to the subreddit turtles, and everyone had
<v Speaker 2>put in pictures and ideas and thoughts about turtles there,
<v Speaker 2>and same for big butts or little titties or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>And now, instead of trying to add to this community
<v Speaker 2>more things that work specifically for it for someone who
<v Speaker 2>wants to see just that thing, people just throw their
<v Speaker 2>pictures everywhere they can, trying to advertise, and that upsets
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the people who were original Reddit users
<v Speaker 2>who are wanting to use it correctly as a hard word,
<v Speaker 2>but as it was originally designed, and so they get angry.
<v Speaker 2>And now there's this like anger and bitterness at the
<v Speaker 2>promotion or the selling of content, and that bitterness makes
<v Speaker 2>them kind of mean and trolly. And there's this fight
<v Speaker 2>between the new people who someone told them they can
<v Speaker 2>see porn on Reddit, so they went there and they
<v Speaker 2>just open up page. They're like cool porn, up vote
<v Speaker 2>and the people who are upvoting and down voting based
<v Speaker 2>on how well this thing fits in the criteria, not
<v Speaker 2>how much they like the thing. And it's become this
<v Speaker 2>like warring landscape that just has a lot of negativity
<v Speaker 2>instead of what it used to be was like, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that does fit titty drop because she dropped her titties,
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna upvote it. It's there and if people
<v Speaker 2>want to see it, they can go see and the
<v Speaker 2>highest voted ones are the most specific to this category.
<v Speaker 2>And it's just it's kind of lost a lot of that,
<v Speaker 2>and I feel a lot of anger from the people
<v Speaker 2>who loved Reddit in the beginning.
<v Speaker 3>Yea.
<v Speaker 2>And also Redit became a public company and so they
<v Speaker 2>change a lot of rules there. Things change everywhere all
<v Speaker 2>the time. But it used to be it felt more
<v Speaker 2>like a safe place. It felt more like a community
<v Speaker 2>where people are trying to build each other up or
<v Speaker 2>giving suggestions like your things go better here or there
<v Speaker 2>or now. It has a lot of bitterness and anger
<v Speaker 2>and that troll vibe. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>One thing I know that people do because I remember
<v Speaker 3>one of my business partners was like, oh, here's an
<v Speaker 3>idea for marketing.
<v Speaker 1>They go into these.
<v Speaker 3>You know pages where it's like advice yeah, and then
<v Speaker 3>they like plant people to recommend.
<v Speaker 1>Like their products yes, and be like, oh have you
<v Speaker 1>tried this?
<v Speaker 3>And they're all different, like paid people to put that's
<v Speaker 3>not an authentic post. And I can see why that
<v Speaker 3>would be. I mean, that's incredibly disingenuous, it is, and
<v Speaker 3>I can see how they'd be infuriating.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think a lot of newer people or
<v Speaker 2>people who aren't super familiar with Reddit are unbothered by that. Maybe,
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of the people who used Reddit for
<v Speaker 2>a long time and really valued what it had to offer,
<v Speaker 2>they're just they're just either leaving or unhappy about it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's too bad. But you know, sometimes even I'm scrolling
<v Speaker 2>and I see something and I'm like, this doesn't go there.
<v Speaker 2>That's not the correct sub reddit for this, and I
<v Speaker 2>have to be like, okay, okay, like they don't know,
<v Speaker 2>or it's probably more likely a company who got a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of pictures and through the picture it's not even
<v Speaker 2>the girl.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah what I mean?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you mentioned that you've had like over a thousand
<v Speaker 3>people'll touch your boobs. Yeah, and you have like boob
<v Speaker 3>meet and greets.
<v Speaker 2>I do.
<v Speaker 1>I do, And I want to hear about this because
<v Speaker 1>I want to know why I have not been invited.
<v Speaker 2>So I went to a v in the first year
<v Speaker 2>a while back, and I was shocked that AVAN is
<v Speaker 2>like the adult conference where you meet adult stars that
<v Speaker 2>they like wouldn't even let us wear pasties. We had
<v Speaker 2>to have our boobs covered. No one could touch them.
<v Speaker 1>I was, yeah, the casinos rules, not Evian.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so interesting because I assumed there it would
<v Speaker 2>be wild. And so the next year I was like, well,
<v Speaker 2>I got to figure out how to do this, so
<v Speaker 2>I offer my own off campus. Like this not related
<v Speaker 2>to Avian anyway, other than it's the same time topless
<v Speaker 2>meat and greets. It's me and a pair of panties
<v Speaker 2>with a bouncer, and you get ten minutes alone with
<v Speaker 2>me with a bouncer. But he says in the corner,
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't really have anything to do unless I say, hell, hown,
<v Speaker 2>this is a long time, and then this is a
<v Speaker 2>long time. People actually use the whole ten minutes or so.
<v Speaker 2>There's two types of people. Okay, there's the person that
<v Speaker 2>comes in like a puppy dog with puppy dog energy
<v Speaker 2>and they're like sucking on my nipple and they're like
<v Speaker 2>it's I feel like a dentist. I'm like, so, how's
<v Speaker 2>your day and they're what, And it's like ten minutes
<v Speaker 2>and that at like nine to fifty five. I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>let's wrap it up. Like oh, there's the people that
<v Speaker 2>come in so they.
<v Speaker 1>Well cannot they can they can suck your boobs too.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that. I don't
<v Speaker 2>want anyone to leak leave marks. And there's a five
<v Speaker 2>minute break between each person. I wash my boobs down
<v Speaker 2>or anywhere else they might have touched. I don't want
<v Speaker 2>any fluid swapping. So you can't kiss me, you can't
<v Speaker 2>like there's no spit, don't touch anywhere my teeny tiny
<v Speaker 2>thong is covering, which that's like that shouldn't be that hard,
<v Speaker 2>And just ask in general before you do anything, so
<v Speaker 2>like that's all I ask. Like if you're gonna say, like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>can I spank you? Can I suck your boob? I'm
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna say yes, just just ask. Don't like catch
<v Speaker 2>me off guard too much. It's pretty chill, but yeah.
<v Speaker 2>But there's a second type of person who needs that
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes because they come in and they're very uncomfortable
<v Speaker 2>and I greet you at the door and I'm like, hi,
<v Speaker 2>I already know your name, and you get to tell
<v Speaker 2>me a little bit about you before you come, and
<v Speaker 2>I give you a big hug, and they're used to
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh my gosh, a topless person is hugging
<v Speaker 2>me right now, and like you can just feel like
<v Speaker 2>their anxiety and then probably a minute like two or three,
<v Speaker 2>like I welcome them in, I sit them down, I
<v Speaker 2>sit on their lap, like we're talking. For a second,
<v Speaker 2>I like sign a picture. I'm trying to like feel
<v Speaker 2>them out a little bit. You can feel the anxiety
<v Speaker 2>come off. And then I'm like, so you're here from
<v Speaker 2>my tits. Do you want to touch them? You want
<v Speaker 2>to do this and some people want to do it
<v Speaker 2>for a second. Some people want to do it for
<v Speaker 2>a minute and they're like wow. So I try to
<v Speaker 2>tailor it a little bit towards the person, and if
<v Speaker 2>at any point in time I get a little touched out,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, that was enough for me, you know.
<v Speaker 2>But for the most part, I love it. They love it.
<v Speaker 2>I've never had a single person be like that wasn't
<v Speaker 2>what I was hoping for. They're usually like, wow, I
<v Speaker 2>will see you next year, so hoping for yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that's crazy. I'm sure you get people
<v Speaker 3>who try to like who would like to take it further.
<v Speaker 2>I've only had one in all the years, the hundreds
<v Speaker 2>of people, I had one person and he he was like,
<v Speaker 2>I really want to suck on your toes and I
<v Speaker 2>said no, I just it just sounded like a lot.
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, can I rub your feet? And I
<v Speaker 2>was like okay, sure. So he gets on the ground,
<v Speaker 2>he's rubbing my feet and then he takes my foot
<v Speaker 2>like a sub boy sandwich and shoves it into the
<v Speaker 2>top and I was like okay, no, no, no no,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like trying to push his head and like
<v Speaker 2>my foot is in his mouth. I was like, okay, sir,
<v Speaker 2>that's enough of that, Like no, no, no, no. And
<v Speaker 2>that was the only time I was like, okay, bouncer,
<v Speaker 2>please help. And he came over and he was like dude,
<v Speaker 2>you guys, you gotta go. He's like no, he was
<v Speaker 2>like just like yeah, full on deep throating my foot. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>I was.
<v Speaker 2>I was a little shocked. And that was my first
<v Speaker 2>year and nowadays that someone them was like I wanna
<v Speaker 2>suck your toes, I'd probably back. I go for it. It's
<v Speaker 2>like a suck a toe. But I was like just
<v Speaker 2>really thrown off and the aggressiveness of it, and I
<v Speaker 2>had already said no, and it was just like it
<v Speaker 2>wasn't hurting me. It was just really freaky. And so yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but he was an interesting fellow to begin with, because
<v Speaker 2>the bouncer has everyone like empty all their pockets, feels
<v Speaker 2>them down first, make sure they're not gonna like bring
<v Speaker 2>a gun or a knife or something in. And that
<v Speaker 2>guy he's emptying his pockets and according to the bouncer,
<v Speaker 2>he's pulling women's used pianies out of all these pockets.
<v Speaker 2>And he also had a briefcase and he's like, we
<v Speaker 2>have to look through your birth He opened it. It's
<v Speaker 2>just chockful, he said, there's probably like hundreds of pairs
<v Speaker 2>of used women's underwear shoved into all his pockets out
<v Speaker 2>his breethcase. I think he was going around van or
<v Speaker 2>something and just like buying as many use pairs of
<v Speaker 2>underwear as possible. I get it.
<v Speaker 3>It didn't at his briefcase. He had to start shoving
<v Speaker 3>it like in his socks and shirt.
<v Speaker 1>And you think if you.
<v Speaker 2>Had someone's anywhere you wanted to like this goes with
<v Speaker 2>that girl and I'm gonna smell and think of her.
<v Speaker 2>But it was just like so many like squished in
<v Speaker 2>pairs of dirty underwear. So like already, I think the
<v Speaker 2>bouncer knew bringing this person in, like he's a little different.
<v Speaker 2>We're like I'm pretty open. You can be as weird
<v Speaker 2>as you want with me, and if it's not my thing,
<v Speaker 2>I'll just say yeah, yeah, no thanks, but cool for you.
<v Speaker 2>And so I was rolling with it, but I was
<v Speaker 2>not expecting that it was the one and only time
<v Speaker 2>where I felt overwhelmed.
<v Speaker 3>I can't keep the visual out of my head of
<v Speaker 3>this guy like just like yeah, devouring your foot and
<v Speaker 3>like refusing.
<v Speaker 1>To take it.
<v Speaker 2>And it was like it's big. I mean it's not.
<v Speaker 2>It's a normal you're like a girl. Yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 2>I have pretty small feet for tall girl, but still
<v Speaker 2>the whole seven and a half look.
<v Speaker 1>The fuck out of here, but a whole foot. I'm
<v Speaker 1>a ten and I'm not as tall as you.
<v Speaker 2>I think I was supposed to be shorter. And I
<v Speaker 2>have these like few extra vertebrates here that add like
<v Speaker 2>three inches to me. I have some like extra vertebrae
<v Speaker 2>right here.
<v Speaker 1>Oh really, and.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, i'll show you later. My back is a little interesting.
<v Speaker 2>So there's like wear your back like curves. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>then there's my tailbone and there's this extra chunk in
<v Speaker 2>there that just does kind of man, it doesn't make sense.
<v Speaker 2>Someone told me it's called a Germanic spine or something
<v Speaker 2>like that once and I was like, okay, so I
<v Speaker 2>think I was supposed to be about like three or
<v Speaker 2>four inches shorter and I just got that. But like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>my hands and feet are kind of small, my face
<v Speaker 2>is like a little bit small on like how tall
<v Speaker 2>I am and everything.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but not your Yeah that's true.
<v Speaker 2>Those happened, but anyway, it's not like an abnormally large foot.
<v Speaker 2>But but it was a in his mouth I can't
<v Speaker 2>and then like so far back I can't. Yeah, it
<v Speaker 2>was I was shocked. Oh but you know it makes
<v Speaker 2>a good story.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it definitely does. That is one going to be
<v Speaker 1>a real check out. All right, let's talk about the
<v Speaker 1>Mile High Club.
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was a fun one. I often have people
<v Speaker 2>ask me what's on your bucket list? Nothing, because if
<v Speaker 2>there was something on my bucket list, I'd just do it.
<v Speaker 2>I could see that if I wanted to do something,
<v Speaker 2>I do it. Although always had multiple partners and poly AMers,
<v Speaker 2>I have, I have friends with benefits, I have people
<v Speaker 2>i'm dating. There's someone I'm gonna be able to do
<v Speaker 2>something with if I came up with something wild that
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to do and they didn't want to
<v Speaker 2>I could find someone right. So the only thing for
<v Speaker 2>a while was getting on the Mile High Club because
<v Speaker 2>that you can't just like just do you know. You
<v Speaker 2>might have a boyfriend or a girlfriend or whatever, but
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to get in the playing bathroom and have sex.
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to get in the plane bathroom just one person.
<v Speaker 2>It is so so being something on my bucket list.
<v Speaker 2>We kind of planned it out. We had a long
<v Speaker 2>flight to Miami, it was overnight. We were going to
<v Speaker 2>go to the front of the airplane. There's a handicap bathroom.
<v Speaker 2>We're both tall people. I'm almost six foot tall. It's
<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of hot. So there's a handicap bathroom.
<v Speaker 2>So we're all we're really excited and we're nervous. They're
<v Speaker 2>waiting for the right moment, like everyone seems to be sleeping.
<v Speaker 1>We get up.
<v Speaker 2>We go to this handicap bathroom in the front. So
<v Speaker 2>like I get on my knees, I pull his pants down.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like trying to suck his dick. He's not really
<v Speaker 2>getting hard. We're both super nervous. We're like nothing's really working.
<v Speaker 2>And then I like try to bend over and he's
<v Speaker 2>like trying to put it in me, and it's just
<v Speaker 2>not really happening, and like I don't have loom and
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of dry and I'm nervous and like we're
<v Speaker 2>both just stressed. And then we can hear the flight
<v Speaker 2>attendants right outside talking and they're like right outside the door,
<v Speaker 2>and we're like, oh my gosh, we're like so stressed
<v Speaker 2>out and it's just not gonna happen. And we're like
<v Speaker 2>minutes and we're like five to ten minutes into trying this,
<v Speaker 2>and we're like we have to call it. We're gonna
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna call it, like you're your dick touched me.
<v Speaker 2>So we join the Moha club. We're calling it, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>And I send him out and I wait like a
<v Speaker 2>few minutes and then I leave and it's so awkward,
<v Speaker 2>and the flight attendant like is there and it's very
<v Speaker 2>clear yeah, And I go back to my seat and
<v Speaker 2>like we're letting the anxiety shake off, and we're like
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of hot though, right Like we just snuck
<v Speaker 2>into the bathroom and they were sitting there like and
<v Speaker 2>we were planning out having sex and we are kind
<v Speaker 2>of horny, but we can't go back to that from
<v Speaker 2>a bathroom again because it's so then one went to
<v Speaker 2>the back of the plane. Like fifteen minutes later, we
<v Speaker 2>go to the backplane and the only option is this
<v Speaker 2>teeny little bathroom stall, and we shove ourselves into this
<v Speaker 2>tiny bathroom stall. At this point, he's hard, he's so horney.
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to go. We like turn me around, he
<v Speaker 2>like fox me really good. And then he pulls out
<v Speaker 2>and like I doesn't know what to do because he
<v Speaker 2>can't go on me because I'm like holding my clothes up.
<v Speaker 2>So we came all over like the sink and the mirror.
<v Speaker 2>It's just like a giant mess. And I'm like, good job,
<v Speaker 2>get out of here. And shoved him out and they're
<v Speaker 2>like cleaned up the bathroom. Were sitting and they're like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>we did it, and uh yeah, we had some great
<v Speaker 2>albeit maybe only two minutes sex in the back of
<v Speaker 2>the airplane. So technically we fucked in two bathrooms on
<v Speaker 2>the same airplane.
<v Speaker 1>But you were just being around.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was just being too particular about the
<v Speaker 3>how did you guys both fit in there?
<v Speaker 1>It was tight.
<v Speaker 2>So there's like the toilet, so my legs are right
<v Speaker 2>in front of the toilet, and he's standings his butt
<v Speaker 2>to the door maybe and I got my hands on
<v Speaker 2>the toilet and it's kind of doggy, but right right
<v Speaker 2>I'm standing Yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Yeah, I've never joined the moment. I succeeded, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't see it happening, and I'm okay with that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a lot of anxiety, but the anxiety's fun,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't get that takes a lot to like
<v Speaker 2>make me feel nervous.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was fun. It was fun to feel that.
<v Speaker 3>Like, ah, so I want to talk about your that
<v Speaker 3>your your polyamorous relationships. Yeah, you describe yourself as being
<v Speaker 3>very open, like emotionally and physically, so like, how did
<v Speaker 3>you or when did.
<v Speaker 1>You realize that, like polyamory was the way for you?
<v Speaker 2>Totally? When I was fourteen, Oh wow, there was this
<v Speaker 2>guy I liked and he wanted to be my boyfriend,
<v Speaker 2>and as you do when you're young, I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get married and then I will never I
<v Speaker 2>had hadn't slept with anyone by him. He was my first,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, he's going to be the only
<v Speaker 2>person I sleep with for the rest of my life. Fourteen,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what what if we just were
<v Speaker 2>open and we didn't have words for it. We were
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of nowhere, farm country, Midwest, were kids. No,
<v Speaker 2>there was no examples in my life. I didn't know
<v Speaker 2>anybody with an open relationship, but I just wanted to
<v Speaker 2>make sure I still had some experiences. And that thought
<v Speaker 2>sort of was like, until we get married or whatever,
<v Speaker 2>let's be open, let's do what we want, let's not
<v Speaker 2>turn down opportunities. And we sort of figured it out
<v Speaker 2>on our own and it just felt right. It made
<v Speaker 2>him feel like my best friend because when I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to do something, I could tell him, or when I
<v Speaker 2>did something, I could tell him, Or if I thought
<v Speaker 2>someone was cute, I could tell him, or if someone
<v Speaker 2>hit on me, I could tell him. And I got
<v Speaker 2>like this high five energy rather than like jealousy, and
<v Speaker 2>it was really awesome. And when him I eventually broke up,
<v Speaker 2>I just was like, this is the only way for me.
<v Speaker 2>And going forward, I would tell people ahead of time, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to be your partner, but I'm already seeing someone,
<v Speaker 2>or I'm only willing to do this if you know
<v Speaker 2>that I might find someone else in the future. And
<v Speaker 2>there's many levels of openness, from the most strict monogamy
<v Speaker 2>to my monogamish to like people who will only do
<v Speaker 2>physical things with other people, or people will only allow flirting,
<v Speaker 2>or people who are I'm like, as far as it goes,
<v Speaker 2>like my partners can be in love with someone else,
<v Speaker 2>they can have lives with someone else also as long
<v Speaker 2>as they genuinely are my best friend and they're still
<v Speaker 2>going to come back and support me. And so at
<v Speaker 2>this point in my life, even when I get married
<v Speaker 2>or like settle down in the future, I'm still going
<v Speaker 2>to be polyamorous. Like I just know it is so
<v Speaker 2>correct for me. And I've always I've had little chunks
<v Speaker 2>of time where I was single, but in that moment
<v Speaker 2>I still felt like I am a polyamorous person. And
<v Speaker 2>times where I was only dating one people person and
<v Speaker 2>times where I was dating three. That's the max I've
<v Speaker 2>ever done. That's hard scheduling wise, just finding time to
<v Speaker 2>have real relationships. But yeah, yeah, I just I truly
<v Speaker 2>believe in it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna ask you because so many people have
<v Speaker 3>different like forms of polyamory and and like what makes
<v Speaker 3>sense for them, Like I know, like Carla Lane, is
<v Speaker 3>married to one guy, but then like Moe is her boyfriend,
<v Speaker 3>and then I think, I feel like.
<v Speaker 1>She's got another one. Yeah, she's got.
<v Speaker 3>Three and yeah, I know, I know, right, And I
<v Speaker 3>was like, how do you, like like Valentine's Day?
<v Speaker 1>Right, Like how do you schedule that? Like who? What's
<v Speaker 1>the hierarchy?
<v Speaker 2>And I know people do have hierarchies on people don't.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think for her her husband is yeah, but
<v Speaker 1>don't quote me on that.
<v Speaker 3>And then like like Susie and Michael Vegas, like they
<v Speaker 3>live together, but it's same thing, like they don't really
<v Speaker 3>believe in like primary.
<v Speaker 1>Cares necessarily, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of pressure to be somebody's only one, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, and to be.
<v Speaker 1>Like I think, I think we're a lot.
<v Speaker 3>And this is actually speaking from someone who's married and
<v Speaker 3>who is monogamous, and I've only ever been monogamous, and
<v Speaker 3>that's what makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>For me totally.
<v Speaker 3>But I think that like where a lot of people
<v Speaker 3>may have run into issues is when they try to
<v Speaker 3>make one person everything to them. And when I say everything,
<v Speaker 3>there's like all these different needs that we have. There's sexual,
<v Speaker 3>there's emotional, there's like mental there's like security, you know,
<v Speaker 3>like all of these things, and you know, I think
<v Speaker 3>that one person can't really be all of that to you.
<v Speaker 3>And whether like friends or family members like meet those
<v Speaker 3>other needs. I think that's that's important to to I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I just feel like that makes.
<v Speaker 2>If I ate my favorite food all the time, would
<v Speaker 2>it be weird if I suddenly wanted to eat something else,
<v Speaker 2>Like it's the thing that I'd still be my favorite food,
<v Speaker 2>but if it's the only food I ever get to
<v Speaker 2>eat them, Yeah, But there's not a right way to
<v Speaker 2>do a relationship. I am all four people being super
<v Speaker 2>monogamous or super open. I just say there is wrong
<v Speaker 2>ways to do it and to do each of the kinds.
<v Speaker 2>And I think if you're polyamorous, it comes with a
<v Speaker 2>set of challenges that that are really hard to handle.
<v Speaker 2>But monogamy also comes with a set of challenges that
<v Speaker 2>are really hard to handle. And it just always made
<v Speaker 2>sense to me that if this person is really my
<v Speaker 2>best friend and I have to hide things from them
<v Speaker 2>because it's going to hurt their feelings, like that I
<v Speaker 2>like someone or even.
<v Speaker 1>Just that I kind of fantasy.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I just wanted even if I got boring
<v Speaker 2>and I just stayed with one person for the rest
<v Speaker 2>of my life. I want to be able to tell
<v Speaker 2>that person like that guy is hot, or like I
<v Speaker 2>want to put this girl's hits in my face, like
<v Speaker 2>and I want them to not have this knee jerk
<v Speaker 2>reaction of like, oh no, I'm going to lose her.
<v Speaker 2>Like my partners know that when I go away, I
<v Speaker 2>come back, they're never going to lose me. And I'm
<v Speaker 2>probably going to come back in a way that I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for allowing in this situation, like
<v Speaker 2>I fell closer to you. So yeah, that's that's what
<v Speaker 2>I want. But it doesn't mean that it's right.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think so many people unfortunately, like their
<v Speaker 3>relationships are based on fear right and like an ownership
<v Speaker 3>and like fear of losing and that kind.
<v Speaker 2>Of supporting their partner fully right.
<v Speaker 3>Because that I was I've been married before, and the
<v Speaker 3>first guy I was married it was very possessive of me,
<v Speaker 3>was very fearful, like he didn't like that I had
<v Speaker 3>male friends and like all this kind of stuff, and
<v Speaker 3>that pushed me away even more, like the more tightly
<v Speaker 3>he tried to cling to me, like the more I
<v Speaker 3>pulled away because I was like, this is not what
<v Speaker 3>I want, whereas my current partner is.
<v Speaker 1>Like trust me.
<v Speaker 2>They can't trust your partner, Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I mean he's you know, I don't think he's ever
<v Speaker 3>been jealous ever of anyone, and he's no reason to me,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 1>And I feel the same way.
<v Speaker 3>Like I also like we just implicitly trust each other completely,
<v Speaker 3>and I think that that's a really strong foundation for
<v Speaker 3>most relationships. And I think a lot of people don't
<v Speaker 3>have that because they probably didn't. And I think a
<v Speaker 3>lot of it also comes down to like sex education,
<v Speaker 3>shame around sexuality, shame around desire, non communication.
<v Speaker 2>But that says a lot about you that you're making
<v Speaker 2>your partner feel secure also, because if you weren't actively
<v Speaker 2>making sure that he felt secure, he would feel insecurities.
<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of people who like they're
<v Speaker 2>feeling jealousy and they think it's like inside of them,
<v Speaker 2>but it's not. It's a need that's not being met,
<v Speaker 2>and their partner needs to make sure that they're meeting
<v Speaker 2>that need that they feel secure. And if you can't
<v Speaker 2>meet that need and make your partner feel secure, then
<v Speaker 2>you're not ready for a relationship with that person.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So anyways, moving on from the Dating Dating podcast, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>let's talk about your first cooking experience.
<v Speaker 2>This is one of my wilder stories.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't know, man, that foot guy.
<v Speaker 1>Does it get better than that?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this one's wilder than that. I think a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people if they were like, yeah, some dude
<v Speaker 2>shoved his my in his mouth, they'd be like that
<v Speaker 2>was a weird experience, but it wasn't like as weird
<v Speaker 2>as coucking. Yeah right, like how many people. Anyway, I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to tell the story. Well, I was open and
<v Speaker 2>I met this guy and we were together for a while,
<v Speaker 2>and he never was like enjoying sex as much I
<v Speaker 2>think most people do. And so eventually we're talking about
<v Speaker 2>it and he's like, well, what I really am into
<v Speaker 2>is watching somebody like get fucked. And I was like, oh, okay,
<v Speaker 2>never heard of this, Like this is interesting, tell me
<v Speaker 2>about it. And he's like, it would really do it
<v Speaker 2>for me, girl, who I've only been dating for a
<v Speaker 2>couple months, to watch you take a big black dick.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm from a small town. I hadn't really seen
<v Speaker 2>a big dick of any color at this point. So
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know quite what to expect. And I was like, oh, okay, interesting.
<v Speaker 2>For as wild as I am, I'm a pretty vanilla
<v Speaker 2>sex girl. I have pretty like calm, loving intimacy. And
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know what, if he wants me
<v Speaker 2>to try this, let's let's do it. I'm gonna I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna take a bed black dick. So I think we're
<v Speaker 2>gonna like interview people. I don't know how you figure
<v Speaker 2>this one out.
<v Speaker 1>You've got like a clipboard, right, So we're talking.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, cool, So I've got this friend and we
<v Speaker 2>could go to his house right now. And I was
<v Speaker 2>like say what, oh, right now? Okay, So we get
<v Speaker 2>in the car. We're driving over there. Still I'm thinking
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna talk to this person, right, He's like, give
<v Speaker 2>his friend's heads up. We get there, we go inside.
<v Speaker 2>The friend like starts a house tour AND's like, and
<v Speaker 2>this is my bedroom, let's have sex. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>I just met you like seconds ago, what is even happening?
<v Speaker 2>But I was just down for the roller cost of it.
<v Speaker 2>He was a good looking guy. Yeah, okay yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>so I was like, all right, let's talk. How does
<v Speaker 2>this work? So the guy I'm sort of starting to date,
<v Speaker 2>is like he's jacking off in the corner and this
<v Speaker 2>guy just starts like fucking me with this giant dick.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not a big dick girlyer, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>whoa bring exploding and trying to put on a show.
<v Speaker 2>This was before contents. I don't know what I'm doing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you liking this? He's like at one point
<v Speaker 2>he's like standing over my face jerking off, and the
<v Speaker 2>guy's fucking me on the edge of the bed. It
<v Speaker 2>was wild. He was like flipping me around, doing all
<v Speaker 2>the crazy sex things that I hadn't even seen. I
<v Speaker 2>was fairly young, and I was from a small town,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what is happening? Like it was
<v Speaker 2>a whole production that now that I am in porn
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, I probably would be unfazed by. But
<v Speaker 2>at the time, I was like, it was so wild.
<v Speaker 2>And then the guy was with came, he had his orgasm.
<v Speaker 2>He was like that was wonderful. And then I said
<v Speaker 2>to the guy who's sucking me, like are you planing
<v Speaker 2>and coming? He's like, well, I like really like sweet
<v Speaker 2>intimate sex, and I was like, so do I so
<v Speaker 2>then my boyfriend and he's like, oh god, I'm danging
<v Speaker 2>it has already come. He's just kind of standing there
<v Speaker 2>and this guy like gets on top and like lovingly
<v Speaker 2>fucking me, and I'm down there like this was the
<v Speaker 2>most weird day of life.
<v Speaker 1>So they completely flipped.
<v Speaker 2>It was so yeah. And then he came pretty fast,
<v Speaker 2>so that worked for him to be like hold cradling
<v Speaker 2>my face and like going for it. I was like, huh, interesting,
<v Speaker 2>and then he was a really nice guy, but I
<v Speaker 2>was sort of it. Then we just left and I
<v Speaker 2>didn't really connect with him or get to know him
<v Speaker 2>at all. And then I got to work the next
<v Speaker 2>day as was working at a hospital and he comes
<v Speaker 2>walking down the hallway and he also worked there in
<v Speaker 2>a different department. No, and I'm like, oh way, no, yes,
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, so we worked together, but not like
<v Speaker 2>we didn't actually have to work together, but we saw
<v Speaker 2>each other. And I assume this is a thing that
<v Speaker 2>they had done before based on how quickly that they
<v Speaker 2>threw this together. But for me, I was like I
<v Speaker 2>can't believe that happened. And I'm gonna like smile and
<v Speaker 2>just be like hi, so and so like not weird
<v Speaker 2>all the time and hilarious.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah wow. Was he surprised to see you too?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I think so because he was like in
<v Speaker 2>a management position at that point. I was like a
<v Speaker 2>new person, and I think there was a feeling of like,
<v Speaker 2>oh uh oh, but I mean all is well. Everything
<v Speaker 2>was super consensual, Everything was honestly super fun, really nice guy.
<v Speaker 2>I ended up not continuing to date the guy who
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be cooked, but we actually stayed really good friends.
<v Speaker 2>And he got married and has a baby and sends
<v Speaker 2>me updates about his family and so we're still good.
<v Speaker 1>Everything.
<v Speaker 2>This new wif cook with him, I think so, I
<v Speaker 2>would assume so, but I don't know. I didn't ask.
<v Speaker 2>I don't They're not super open. But actually, though when
<v Speaker 2>I hope he's okay with me telling you we're not
<v Speaker 2>share names. So when he and his now wife but
<v Speaker 2>then girlfriend came and met me and a partner I
<v Speaker 2>was dating, he said to my boyfriend he's like, she
<v Speaker 2>really likes being molested, and my boyfriend was like, what
<v Speaker 2>did you just like end me this girl? So, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he's an interesting fellow but really fun. I have a
<v Speaker 2>great friendship with him, and uh, I don't look back
<v Speaker 2>on it. With any bad feelings, but BOYD did it
<v Speaker 2>blow my mind at the time. Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Yeah, I just I.
<v Speaker 2>Went along on that roller coaster.
<v Speaker 3>So that that leads me to my next question. Are
<v Speaker 3>you considering doing boy girl for your pages? Are you
<v Speaker 3>doing boy girl for your pages? Like it's coming.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great question. So I put out my
<v Speaker 2>first ever blowjob video, just started testing the waters, and
<v Speaker 2>now in July, I feel.
<v Speaker 1>Like it did well.
<v Speaker 2>It didn't do bad, people liked it. But then people
<v Speaker 2>are like, okay more or like do you have this,
<v Speaker 2>or like I want to see you get facial or
<v Speaker 2>I want to see you get a cream pire, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there's a good chunk of time between that
<v Speaker 2>video coming out and then like now I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm officially ready for the next step. We're gonna put
<v Speaker 2>out full sex videos starting in July. So I gave
<v Speaker 2>myself a little time. We're going to make sure we
<v Speaker 2>have just something I feel really good about that actually
<v Speaker 2>represents my real sex life. And it's coming. Yeah, it's coming.
<v Speaker 2>And people have been asking about this since twenty nineteen,
<v Speaker 2>like when's it going to happen. I've always been like,
<v Speaker 2>it is going to happen, but it's not going to
<v Speaker 2>happen now, and I don't I don't know when, because
<v Speaker 2>I won't do anything until I'm like sure I want it,
<v Speaker 2>and then I'm like so sure that I wish I
<v Speaker 2>had already done it, And so I'm at that point,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm totally if I had that out there
<v Speaker 2>right now, i'd feel great about it. So I'm ready
<v Speaker 2>and it's going to come out.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seems like you're really good at establishing boundaries
<v Speaker 3>and like moving at your pace that you're comfortable with.
<v Speaker 3>But is there anything that you wish you had known
<v Speaker 3>before starting in this industry that you know now?
<v Speaker 2>There are some people in the industry who are very genuine,
<v Speaker 2>and I've become very good friends with them, and I
<v Speaker 2>sort of went into it thinking everyone could be that person,
<v Speaker 2>and I overshare. I have no filter, I have no
<v Speaker 2>real desire for privacy on pretty much anything, and I
<v Speaker 2>let people in. I give them a lot of information
<v Speaker 2>or I jump right into things with people, and some
<v Speaker 2>people weren't so genuine, and I think that I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if I would have wished I had my guard up,
<v Speaker 2>but I would have. I wish I would have maybe
<v Speaker 2>consulted with somebody who's already in the industry, like who
<v Speaker 2>is a good person to trust or to be vulnerable
<v Speaker 2>with or to do videos with or things like that,
<v Speaker 2>and who would make good friends. And I have found
<v Speaker 2>that through my own way that some people are really
<v Speaker 2>awesome and I have such deep friendships with them that
<v Speaker 2>we're hanging out all the time, no cameras around. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>as someone who is very open that not everyone is
<v Speaker 2>so trustworthy, and coming from a small crown, they are
<v Speaker 2>more trustworthy people. I feel like, because you screw one
<v Speaker 2>person over, there's only fifty people you can be friends with.
<v Speaker 2>You lost one out here, you can lose as many
<v Speaker 2>friends as you want and make new friends. And I
<v Speaker 2>think that that.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's also like that mentality of like ambition,
<v Speaker 3>like no matter what, yeah, yeah, yeah right, and so
<v Speaker 3>like personal relationships don't matter as long as like you're
<v Speaker 3>planning that ladder to get to whatever career pinnacle a
<v Speaker 3>year after.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I had known that and then I had
<v Speaker 2>more of a guard up, that would be sad in
<v Speaker 2>its own way. So I'm not hurt necessarily. So I
<v Speaker 2>guess my advice to someone else would just be like
<v Speaker 2>to know that you're probably going to get screwed over
<v Speaker 2>a few times and just be ready and that's okay, right,
<v Speaker 2>that's okay. You're gonna have your heart open and you're
<v Speaker 2>gonna meet some really awesome people.
<v Speaker 3>And you know you're gonna learn from it. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>I've been I've totally been fucked over in this industry,
<v Speaker 3>but I think, like it's just business, you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, Yeah, it just happens, and I learned from it
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and then I'm like, I wish I
<v Speaker 2>hadn't learned from it because I liked I liked the innocence,
<v Speaker 2>and I want to keep meeting people and giving them
<v Speaker 2>that innocent version of myself.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I hope that you never become jaded because.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you as you are just so lovely. Thank you
<v Speaker 2>very much.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah well, Ellie, thank you so much for coming on.
<v Speaker 1>It's been such a pleasure to get to know you.
<v Speaker 3>We're going to do a separate segment for my Patreon members,
<v Speaker 3>and I think we're also these are questions that are
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<v Speaker 3>of my Patreon can send these questions in, and then
<v Speaker 3>we're also I think we're going to do a little
<v Speaker 3>segment for my OWFT channel maybe yes, yes, okay, So
<v Speaker 3>can you tell everybody where they can find you online
<v Speaker 3>in the meantime.
<v Speaker 2>Right now, my link tree is the best place to go.
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
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