2025-06-12- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back our number two here Kentucky Sports Radio Live.

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Speaker 2: What's the name of the Heritage Place?

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Speaker 5: Heritage Place, Well, that's closest we'll get.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Although uk JMI like tech Jim Barnhardt has been doing it for years. He wrote me to make sure to say this is not he not a retirement community. He wanted me to say it because he lives here. He was very important. He wanted to make sure we knew that that's not what this was. So I don't know what it is, but Jim Martin want to make clear he lives the here, so don't be saying that.

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Speaker 2: Well I said retirement community early in the show, and they all kind of blunked as people giving me the stinker. Oh no, we are not a retirement not.

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Speaker 4: A retirement community, just a community of wonderful folks. Now tomorrow we're gonna be doing a show to celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Army. Unlike Trump, we're not bringing tanks. We are just gonna go. And what is what is the that the address where we're gonna be is where I was earlier because I thought we were It was on Sir Barton way, you'll get the address.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the.

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Speaker 4: Army folks are welcoming people to come. They said they might even have uh well, I said they weren't gonna bring tank.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they will.

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Speaker 4: Because they actually said they're gonna have uh some stuff for people to look at at the show, like when we did the show at the fire Department and they had the truck. So when when when Ryan gives the address, we will, but that tomorrow it's in Hamburg.

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Speaker 5: What's the address?

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Speaker 3: Twenty three oh four, Sir Barton Way's.

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Speaker 4: Sweet twenty three oh four, Sir barton Way Sweet one thirty. I think you're gonna have a hard time getting military vehicles in a suite.

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Speaker 2: But how they gonna rive the tank?

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Speaker 4: But that's what they said, so I I listen. I believed our armed forces. So to celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth uh anniversary of the Army, we will be there tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be awesome, so very cool.

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Speaker 2: At least you know how to get there. You've already been there.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about finding it because that's where I was.

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Speaker 4: When I called you earlier today, I was like, this does not feel like it's someone's house.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we need to give a shout out though. Okay, today's Drew Franklin's fortieth.

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Speaker 4: Today is Drew Franklin's fortieth birthday, so that's why he is on vacation.

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Speaker 5: Is celebrated. That is crazy to me. I heard Drew.

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Speaker 4: I Drew Franklin when he was twenty three years old, and now he is in forty and has more gray and his beard than I do. Who would have ever, who would have ever imagined? But our longest employee with KSR goes Back literally hired him out of college when he was working at Tony Roma's. First time I met him, he came he had barbecue sauce all over his shirt, and uh and since then been you know, just awesome. My kind of partnering crime on all this for all these years.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of the guy that kind of keeps us all normal. You know, I think we all got our.

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Speaker 5: Own But that's how you would characterize him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've all got our.

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Speaker 4: Own little Oh that's how I've been with him on too many road trips to say he keeps us all normal.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the road trip, it was different than normal, Drew.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, these days, when this is all done, the Drew Franklin Uncensored podcast of the stories from from our early days, it would be would be great because Drew, back then we would travel. We would go to fourteen games in fourteen days with Fox Sports or CBS, and Drew and I would we'd do the radio show too, and we would get up at like eight nine am, eight thirty am. Back then, we didn't have this. We couldn't just set up. We had to go to a physical radio studio and we would wherever we were find a physical radio studio, we go to it. So the show was over, get in the car and drive to the next city, go to a game, stay up that night, write a story about the game for CBS or Fox. Go back to the hotel. At that point it would be midnight one am. I would go to bed, Drew would go out. Drew would go out and he was like, when are we ever gonna be in Cedar Falls, Iowa anymore? Let's go and he would go out and he'd roll back in about four or five in the morning, and he would do it again the next day.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know how he did it, I honestly have no He was like a machine in New York. He would do it. We were in New York for the US Open for two weeks.

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Speaker 4: He did it every night, every night, and I have no idea how he did it.

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Speaker 2: Drew's greatest trade is he always answers the bell, always doesn't any sleep, zero sleep.

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Speaker 4: He's only missed one the start of one show too much, and it was in the Bahamas, the only time he's ever done it. So happy fortieth birthday. I'm sure you're listening, Drew. Love you man, and we will see you on Monday. We didn't get to talk about this yesterday. Let's talk about the new college basketball rules the gout that got created. These are I think, for the most part, all good rules. First of all, they're trying to do something about the fact that there's too many challenge There's too many monitor reviews at the end of games, makes them take forever.

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Speaker 5: So they have changed.

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Speaker 4: He's the rule now when it comes to out of bounds, goaltending, and a couple of other minor ones. The each coach gets one challenge at one point.

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Speaker 5: During the game.

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Speaker 4: You can say that ball is off them, not them, go challenge it. If you win the challenge, you get one more and that's it, no matter what. If you lose a challenge, you get no more and you lose a time out, all right, so you get one challenge in the last two minutes of the game. The ref can look at goaltending on his own, but he can never look it out of bounds on his own.

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Speaker 5: So you better be careful if you're gonna use your challenge.

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Speaker 4: You better he hope you're gonna win, and you better think like, is this the right time for me to use it?

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Speaker 5: In the last two.

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Speaker 4: Minutes, the ref can on their own look at goaltending, but they cannot look at out of bounds. Also, the restricted circle, you can challenge it once. If you lose, you lose it. If you win, you get it one more time. And in the last two minutes, the ref can look at that, but the reft can't look at fouls, they can't look at out of bounds. So the theory is this will speed up the game and there'll be a little bit of sort of gamesmanship as to when do you use your challenge.

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Speaker 5: I think most.

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Speaker 4: Coaches will wait till the end because it won't make sense to do it early in the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna say that we may need it in a late game situation. My favorite one.

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Speaker 5: You like that rule, love it.

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Speaker 2: I love the fact about the out of bounds thing because it seems like ninety five percent of the time the refs got it right.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I think it was becoming like a crutch for the rule. What they were just looking at every single out of bounds call at the end, and it was just making the game.

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Speaker 5: Drag and drag and drag.

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Speaker 4: Now there's gonna be some game where the where the coaches use their challenge and then the ref's gonna get it wrong at the end and it's gonna.

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Speaker 5: Drive everybody crazy. Yeah, but I still think it's better than the Cyson.

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Speaker 2: I think this is definitely a better system we have. I like the fact they can't review those things to the final two minutes of the game either, don't waste the game in the early.

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Speaker 4: They can on the coaches challenge initiate one until the final two minutes.

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Speaker 2: See, I like that too. No sense reviewing something in the first five minutes of the game.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: The other one is they're changing the rule now on when you go up for a shot and get fouled and you know in the NBA they have continuation. Basically, if you're making a move to the basket and you get fouled, you can finish your move. In college, it's always supposed to have been you have to literally be shooting when you got fouled. If you did anything after, it didn't count. They're now changing the rule to be what they how they were kind of starting to call it, which is, when you get fouled, you can make like one move and shoot and then it'll still count. But you can't do in the NBA, where you like take two steps and then it's like supposed to be. Now, who knows how they'll call it, but it's basically giving people a chance to get the and one easier.

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Speaker 5: I like that rule.

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Speaker 4: Because I think it doesn't give people the incentive. Well, here's what I would say if I'm a coach, if you're gonna foul somebody, foul them, Yeah, right, foul them, because if you let them get and it will help the strong players. Guys like Oscar back in the day, who could take a hit and then keep his move going, will actually be benefited I think by this.

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Speaker 5: So the continuation goes a little bit longer.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, I think the in the college and they had kind of been incorporating that eve though it wasn't an official.

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Speaker 4: Last year, it felt like they really did agree and that, but that wasn't what the rules. Still it was inconsistent. This will be more, supposedly we'll see more consistent.

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Speaker 2: So maybe guys like Otega or average.

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Speaker 5: Take this would help otake.

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Speaker 4: This is one I think this really will help dudes who go to the basket like with authority and then finish. I think I think Otaga is a great example of somebody who will benefit from this.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and I think that to finish.

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Speaker 5: Though member he missed a ton of layups last year.

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Speaker 2: Game, didn't make that Oklahoma game.

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Speaker 5: But you're right, he's he's a guy.

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Speaker 2: We got some guys that are probably gonna affect greatly. That's how they played the game. Aberdeen him well.

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Speaker 4: And the dude like Muhammed Diabate, that's a big dude. That should be somebody that it helps. So those are two big like them all so far, like all of them. And it says they're going to decide in a couple of weeks they may.

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Speaker 2: Move to quarters. Yeah, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 4: A big deal too. I mean, I don't people don't think that's a big deal because it's the same amount of time, but four to ten minute quarters instead of two twenty minute halves leads to less free throws. Yes, because the way it is now seven fouls and you go to the free throw line. If it goes to quarters, it takes five fouls in a quarter to go to the line. So you will go to the free throw line less. There will be less end of the game free throws another and the game will go faster.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this will make the college game go go faster.

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Speaker 2: I love it. You know every quarter, Yeah, the fouls reset and I think I'm just watching the women's game. You know, they do it already. I love the way to flow of the game is.

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Speaker 4: The women's game is so much quicker in time than the men's game. Yep, the women's game. Most women games finish in two hours or less. The men's games, you know, can drag on on and on. If they make that change, I think it will make them much shorter.

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Speaker 2: Is this something that they would make a change with going to effect this company they're talking about.

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Speaker 4: If they do it, they have to do it next week for it to be this season, okay, but if they get it done next week, it will be in effect this season.

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Speaker 2: There may be some purists that don't want to go away from the has, but that's the only the only form of basketball in the world that plays halves.

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Speaker 4: NBA plays quarters, every professional league around the world plays quarters, International place quarters, women play quarters. Men's college high school plays quarters. Men's college basketball is the only sport that plays halves. And it just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even know why. I don't know why we played just has. It's just been that way with our whole lifes.

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Speaker 5: That's how it's been. So hopefully that changes. Who's next, shit, Jerry, Jerry, go ahead, Jerry.

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Speaker 6: Hey Man.

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Speaker 7: First, I didn't say Vince left because of the house thing. I said he was out, he was in a door. But the fact that it's AD is going around saying that they're going to short football for basketball.

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Speaker 4: First of all, help you keep getting upset about this thing about the money. So here's the serious question for you, Mitch Barnhart, and he's in the ads all across the country, are going to have to decide how they distribute their money. Would you rather make it to where UK basketball is playing with one hand behind their back, so that football gets the equal amount of money, or do you want to say, look, we're at a disadvantage in football anyway, let's make sure we can win a national title in basketball. What would I mean to put it in a different way?

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Speaker 5: If all the SEC schools hang on, let me finish.

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Speaker 4: Jerry, Jerry, it's not the Jerry show, it's the KSR. If it's fourteen million dollars to football three million to basketball, you would rather go fourteen to three or would you rather do twelve five so that basketball has a chance to win with the theory of we can spend fourteen in football and we're still going to be worse than the other teams.

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Speaker 7: Okay, speaking as a football fan, I don't know to see the football get what they need, but let me say this. Football fans in Kentucky have been getting there a swift kick to the nuts over football for seventy years. In the last forty years, we've had to sit back and watch those third brane corps up the road better manage their football program than we have. Mostly except for the last ten years. The last ten years they've worked their tail ends off to get football on evel love basketball and to where we're playing the SEC with the SEC roster. That's about to end with that idea, now do I understand it? Yes, But until that, until that changes either through a national body however you want to create it that sets limits on this sins reasonable limits on this money. Okay, they have set they've said you can forget about you can take a football, well.

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Speaker 5: You can get its called. They have set limits.

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Speaker 4: It's just the case Ryan that UK Basketball is saying, we want to make the decision in house at UK what we focus on, rather than have the SEC tell us what we have to focus on.

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Speaker 2: The example you do out the other day, Villanova, Connecticut, Kansas, these schools we compete against recruiting and on the floor, they're going to spend a lot more money on basketball than we are. So we've got to try to compensate somewhere, don't we Look.

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Speaker 4: I can. It's it's like I think the economic term. I'm not an economics like you know, I'm not. I don't know it completely, but I think the term is marginal value. And I think the idea is, you know, what is the difference between a Kentucky football team that spends twelve versus fourteen, there is going to be a difference, but how big a difference is. But the difference between a Kentucky basketball team that's three and five might be huge, huge, And I think the theory is, do we just take the little hit on football to ensure we can compete for a title in basketball, because honestly, we ain't gonna compete for a title in football no matter what we do. That's the theory. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I think that they're coming.

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Speaker 2: From and I agree. But I guess there's guys like Jerry that are die hard football fans that that kind of doesn't sit well with them, that they're gonna you know, what would you do? I think at Kentucky, Kentucky's a special situation. You're in the SEC. You gotta compete against the top of the top in football, yet your basketball is the one that kind of drives the car. So I think you gotta give more money to basketball.

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Speaker 4: If there wasn't a big East where Villanova Saint John's, Connecticut can spend whatever they want, and if there wasn't a duke, who Duke's going to spend more money on basketball. Kansas is going to spend more money on basketball. If you want to compete with those teams, I.

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Speaker 5: Feel like you gotta do it. I feel like you got to because I don't say this to be rude.

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Speaker 4: We can spend fourteen, we could spend all twenty on football. I still don't think we're gonna beat Alabama in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: You know you're not wrong.

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Speaker 5: That's just maybe I'm wrong. Maybe if we did beat.

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Speaker 2: It once in a while, but not on a continue But.

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Speaker 4: For all the reasons I've always said, we don't produce players here, etc. Now, one of my excuses for football has always been we don't produce recruits in Kentucky. I do think that excuse goes away a little bit in the money here. Ye, kids will be a lot more willing to travel if you've got more money. Very true, and the argument, and I'm not saying I believe this because I think Vince has a lot of ability. But part of the argument people will tell you as to why losing Vince doesn't matter as much as it did a few years ago, is at this point people are going where the money is. Anyway, the personal relationships may not be as important as what they once were.

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Speaker 5: We'll see. I don't know it.

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Speaker 2: May a guy like Wandale Robinson leave and then Vince was able to convince him to.

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Speaker 5: Come back, that he certainly was able to do things do things like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 5: From the audience. I love the non retirement community.

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Speaker 4: Jim Barnhart this is Kentucky Sports Radio Waterback. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live. Come on now, if you're gonna don't, don't make it seem like a retirement community. My mom wants to give wants me to give a big shout out to the folks here who set this up. She said, that is an amazing food spread in the fly or so let's give her around the clause to our.

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Speaker 2: Those homemade cookies are fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Flowers.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't make flower, you wouldn't put flowers up there, but those cookies. One of the women said she went to Cynthiana and got the country ham from there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's why it's so good.

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Speaker 4: Yes, my mom continues to say, over and over, she did work at the Saint Commwell's attorney's office, and since she I think she was worried that I was suggesting otherwise.

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Speaker 5: A couple of breaking news things here shit running on a.

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Speaker 4: First of all, the NCAA has ruled against Zekaia Ziggler. Will not give him another excuse me. Courts have federal courts. He will not get another year of eligibility. That's the first court.

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Speaker 5: Then, by the.

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Speaker 4: Way, yes, get a job Zakai. That's the it's the first court though that's ruled you can't do more than four years. That's what he was arguing. It should not be able to play college basketball as long as I want. The first federal court has said no. Now some bad news. They're having a House hearing right now now on a bill to codify NCAA rule like the rules about nil and apparently it's not going well because it's becoming like partisan arguing.

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Speaker 5: This is just my opinion.

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Speaker 4: The House of Representatives, which is already seems like a disaster, just needs to get out of it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, they need to get out of it.

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Speaker 4: This is a bill that cannot pass that if it's not if it's unless it's bipartisan, has to have sixty votes in the Senate, which means Democrats have to agree.

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Speaker 5: The House needs to get out of it. Because the House all they do is fight.

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Speaker 4: I know, I never thought i'd say this, but let Ted Cruz and Corey Booker do their thing. Who stay out of it. No, I'm serious. If it becomes a political issue, this is dead. If it becomes Republicans think this, Democrats think this, We're done. It will not pass in today's climate, especially with elections coming. But if the politics will stay out of it and they just try to fix college sports, which I can't believe I'm saying this, but I believe it. I do think Corey Booker and Ted Cruz want to do that. Stay out of it, House of Representatives, let them do it. And then, because when you get it in there with the AOC's and Marjorie Taylor Green screaming at each other, it's not gonna happen. So I hope they stay out of it or otherwise, because if it becomes partisan, it will not pass. It just won't, and then we're gonna be stuck in this who knows what happened.

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Speaker 2: So based on what you just said, do you think this will get fixed or is it?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: I don't like to hear that. I was hoping. I didn't know there was gonna be a house hearing. I was hoping they'd stay out of it because they can only make it worse. It's one of these weird things where the best system is to do it behind closed doors, come out with both sides of green and then and then that's really the only way it's gonna work.

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Speaker 2: And it seemed like the other thing was progressing in the right direction on this.

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Speaker 4: It was UK football announced Texas and Tennessee games will be at night. Yes, the home game and they're both here. Yes, October nights. Also Keenland double weekend, so you could go to Keenland during the game. The football game is at night. I mean, both those games are gonna be big, uphill battles to win, but I guess if we're gonna win, having them at night is better, right.

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Speaker 2: I think if you got a chance to beat either one of those teams, your best chance would be at night when things just kind of crazy can happen in a college football game.

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Speaker 4: So that means Kentucky will only have by my count, two day games at home. So the first games first games at noon, yeah, the very first one, and then the game at the end of the year where we play like Tennessee martin is but Ole Miss is at three point thirty the Eastern whatever's at night, Tennessee's at night, Uh, Texas is at night, and then Florida who is that? Who the other one with the game? I think it's at night as well. So we're gonna have night games for all of our stuff.

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Speaker 2: You gotta think that gives you a better chance, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: There's just the one to watch is Florida in November at night. We've not played that. They've not had to come up here when it was cold, you know, like since when.

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Speaker 2: Since the Yeah, back in those days, they'd even put Florida on the other side of the field in the shade where it was even colder than the other side.

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Speaker 4: Well now they like, you know, we've played them in September forever, and so they've never had to come here when it was cold.

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Speaker 5: If you look at Florida's schedule, they've never had to play anybody when it's cold.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like the SEC would make it to where they didn't have to go to Missouri, Kentucky or Tennessee when it was cold. They'll be coming here on a November night when in theory it could be cold.

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Speaker 2: So Freddie used to grab about that all the time. Why is Florida coming up here in September? They could come up here in November when they play all those the northern teams like that. That's crazy.

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Speaker 5: So they're finally gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: Does that make give you any more confidence that the Tennessee and Texas games are at night.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I give me a little more confident that something crazy could happen, that they could possibly pull one out of those.

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Speaker 5: Oh maybe, Shannon, do you think that's possible?

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Speaker 3: No, Okay, I don't think that matters when to be honest.

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Speaker 4: With you, some positivity.

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Speaker 2: You're not worried about this morning, Kroger Field be it's gonna be all orange on those two games.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about the Texas one. You know, they've never been here. When it gets around their fan base that they can go to Keenland and then come up here and they've never played here. They have a huge fan base with a ton of money, I could see them flooding this me too. I mean I could see them absolutely flooding the city for that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even the Tennessee game. I think we've seen Tennessee kind of start to take over stadium once in a while and get happening again.

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Speaker 5: So that that does worry me a little bit. We'll take a break, be right back.

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Speaker 4: Dan Skirka, the coach of Murray State going to the College World Series is next. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ he'll make them pay now.

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Speaker 3: More of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Lexington, Heritage Place, Heritage Place out here in what'd you call?

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Speaker 5: Is this Palamar Beaumont.

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Speaker 2: Close to Beaumont, close to Boon side of town?

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Speaker 5: Yes, dance Kirky, you said, is where Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Currently on another radio show? So I asked if maybe we could have him at eleven forty five of our next segment.

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Speaker 5: And we got bumped. We got bumped for another show. Yeah, he's currently Now you're the one to book this. How did you let that happen? Waby?

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Speaker 2: So he was going on the other show at eleven fifteen, was scheduled then to be off and get on with us at eleven thirty.

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Speaker 5: So it doesn't seem like that's happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would try him again. I think we're good now.

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Speaker 3: I just talked to the guy ten seconds ago.

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Speaker 5: Well he's trying to try him again.

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Speaker 2: Okay, try him again.

00:24:38
Speaker 4: All right, before you do that, put on a call while you're doing it's next.

00:24:42
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Johnny.

00:24:44
Speaker 5: Johnny, go ahead, Johnny.

00:24:48
Speaker 8: Hey, Matt, so I got two questions for you. Yes, so, in my opinion, BBN should be rooting for Col in the Arkansas and Louisville game for the SEC Challenge. But I know that you had a more of a peculiar relationship with Cal. Who were you personally rooting for in that game?

00:25:07
Speaker 5: That's a great question.

00:25:08
Speaker 4: Uh So I appreciate to call Arkansas draw draws Louisville in the sec ACC Challenge or I misspelled that on Twitter?

00:25:19
Speaker 2: Really what'd you put?

00:25:20
Speaker 5: I might have put se x ACC challenge.

00:25:24
Speaker 2: That's a different kind of challenge.

00:25:26
Speaker 4: Different kind of challenge, Shannon, that's ringing on the phone out, Okay, I would like for you to have done that live on the here.

00:25:33
Speaker 5: It's a good question. You take it. You pulling for Louisville or Arkansas?

00:25:37
Speaker 4: So you got you got Pat Kelsey's going down to uh Fayetteville.

00:25:43
Speaker 5: Who you cheering for in that game?

00:25:44
Speaker 2: I cannot cannot cheer for Louisville even though it's Cal. I'm cheering for him, it's SEC. It's a challenge. I'm cheering for call in Arkansas. Man, I can't cheer.

00:25:56
Speaker 5: For louis I don't know. It's tough. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, in general, I would definitely cheer for Arkansas.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: What's your argument to cheer for Louisville.

00:26:10
Speaker 5: I mean, I should cheer for Arkansas, but I don't know. I can't. I mean, yeah, I don't know.

00:26:19
Speaker 4: I guess I'll cheer for Arkansas, but it's kind of begrudgingly because I it is very important to me that Mark do better than Cal.

00:26:28
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, and we're gonna have to play.

00:26:30
Speaker 4: Louisville a couple of weeks after they do, and we have to go there, and I really don't like the idea that he might win down there and we might lose at Louisville, which is plausible this year because we're playing on their home court this year. So yeah, I mean, I guess I'll cheer for Arkansas, but I'll kind of be hoping that the game ends in a time, which is very rare in college basketball.

00:26:55
Speaker 5: But but but but maybe it will.

00:26:57
Speaker 2: Because you know, Arkansas we had, you know a couple of times we kind of like Big Z, but he's gone a due, but he d J.

00:27:02
Speaker 5: Wagner will still be the only that's really the only one.

00:27:05
Speaker 2: And the assistant coaches and Cal, you're.

00:27:08
Speaker 4: Gonna cheer for You're cheering for Bruiser. You got a soft spot in your heart for Bruiser.

00:27:11
Speaker 5: And Chin I do not.

00:27:13
Speaker 2: But I don't have any soft spot whatsoever for Louisville Nowhere.

00:27:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I'll cheer for Arkansas, but I don't. I don't know that I want to. All Right, chanton, How did Ryan said the second phone call would work? Did that work?

00:27:23
Speaker 3: No, He's still not ready.

00:27:24
Speaker 5: Ryan's still not real.

00:27:26
Speaker 2: No, No, it must be a long winded radio interview there.

00:27:30
Speaker 3: Maybe he said the producer for the other show took him longer, you know, didn't tell him how long it was going to be. Maybe a lot about how long they were going to keep them. Now they're hanging on to them.

00:27:40
Speaker 5: He should hang he should he should hang up on him. All right.

00:27:43
Speaker 4: So you remember how we were talking about with Vince and uh Vincent Mark.

00:27:47
Speaker 5: You remember how we were talking about that.

00:27:50
Speaker 4: Hurt feelings can play a role in things, right, that people are almost human.

00:27:55
Speaker 5: I thought about this yesterday. You know.

00:27:58
Speaker 4: Ran Paul is a senator from Kentucky. He's probably been one of Donald Trump's biggest supporters over the years. They've like hung together through thick and thin. But did you know that there's a White House picnic that happens every year? Did you know there was a White House picnic? They have a picnic for the people for the Congress. People can come and bring their families and it's a picnic on the White House lawn. They've been doing it for like one hundred years. I guess that's nice, right, very nice. It's bipartisan in theory. Hope everybody can come. Ram Paul, you may have seen, made a criticism of Trump earlier this week about having the parade and all this. Trump disinvited Rand Paul to the picnic. Specifically disinvited Ram Paul and his family. He was planning on bringing his grandkids to play on the lawn. So Ram Paul yesterday did this interview and he goes, this is the pettiest thing I've ever heard, making it to where my grandkids cannot come to the White House. And I was thinking about myself over these years. Remember we talked about how he called Rand Paul ugly, said his hair was awful, you know, did other stuff. The thing that got him was his grandkids don't get to go to the picnic.

00:29:15
Speaker 5: And I've thought about it, and I was like, you know what, Ryan, that seems.

00:29:19
Speaker 4: Ridiculous, But it also shows how at the end of the day, it's still just people. It's still because like I was thinking about you, you'd get madder about somebody not letting your grandkids come to a picnic, then you would anything else.

00:29:34
Speaker 2: Make fun of my hair, call me shit, I would do that, my beautiful flowing hair I've got. Don't mess with my grandkids. That's hands off. You're not gonna hurt my grandkid. I'm grandpa man. Don't want to hurt my grandkids.

00:29:46
Speaker 5: But you don't have any grand kids, not yet. Okay, but if you did, if I did, you'd be very offended if they didn't get to go.

00:29:53
Speaker 2: To that understand Ram Paul's frustration and hurt.

00:29:55
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So we did have a couple of people who had questions. So where since we're waiting out, sir, come on up here. You can get on that microphone right there. All right, here we go, just putting it right there, put that headset on, and just give me first of all, when you put it on there, you go put it over your head, give me your name. Put the microphone down there, there you go. Go ahead, let's say it again. Your name was what Janet?

00:30:17
Speaker 5: Janet?

00:30:18
Speaker 4: Where are you from, Janet? You live here right here? Well I didn't mean in their house. That would be kind of strange. Okay, but but you live in the community, all right, So what what is your question?

00:30:28
Speaker 5: Jane?

00:30:29
Speaker 9: So there is I'm excited that O tega oway is coming back. Yes, and there is an Oway chant.

00:30:36
Speaker 5: There is.

00:30:37
Speaker 9: I don't know.

00:30:38
Speaker 5: Exactly what it is. Would you like to practice it?

00:30:40
Speaker 6: No?

00:30:41
Speaker 9: I would not, but I would like to tell you what I think.

00:30:44
Speaker 2: It should be.

00:30:44
Speaker 9: Okay, Gloria Estefan. The rhythm is going to get you? Uh huh that way way chant? That should be the chance?

00:30:51
Speaker 5: Well what is that one?

00:30:53
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sing it?

00:30:54
Speaker 4: Well, no, no, you can't suggest a chant, Janet. Don't you agree, Ryan, she can't suggest a chant and do it.

00:31:00
Speaker 2: How can we you know sample it if we don't.

00:31:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta teach me the chance. I don't know it, all right, Okay, here we go. You cannot.

00:31:06
Speaker 9: You got to promise to not make fun of me, though.

00:31:09
Speaker 5: Have I ever made fun of anyone? All right?

00:31:13
Speaker 2: Facebook? Yesterday?

00:31:15
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't remember who it was, but they probably deserved it, all right, go ahead.

00:31:18
Speaker 9: Okay, So it's the Gloria Estefan song.

00:31:21
Speaker 5: Uh huh.

00:31:21
Speaker 9: The rhythm is gonna get you, and they say, oh way, oh way, oh way.

00:31:26
Speaker 5: Oh wow.

00:31:28
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, hang on, you guys, don't get shy. Now, come on Heritage Place. Here we go, do it again.

00:31:36
Speaker 9: Oh way, oh way, oh way, oh way.

00:31:41
Speaker 5: Look at that, well done.

00:31:43
Speaker 4: Wow, Thank you very much for that. What do you think is that better than mine? Uh away, way way away, oh way? Or is it just gonna be like an age thing where the younger ones are doing that and the older folks are doing Gloria stepar.

00:31:58
Speaker 5: We tried.

00:32:00
Speaker 4: That is not a criticism. That is not a criticism. The student section was doing the other one. That is not a criticism. You got up and sang, I'm on your side, But I'm just saying, which one would you prefer?

00:32:13
Speaker 2: We tried all year to get yours going and finally caught on with.

00:32:17
Speaker 5: Like two games. Finally at the very end it caught on.

00:32:21
Speaker 2: So I'd like to keep I'll tell you what.

00:32:23
Speaker 4: I'll leave it up to Mario, which one should you do? Which one do you want to go? I'm gonna put you on the spot. Here, do you like the new way? Okay, look at it. Look at him playing to the crowd. Shannon, He's like he's he's like a wrestler. He can't, he can't, he can't do it. He has to he loses his thing.

00:32:43
Speaker 9: All right?

00:32:43
Speaker 5: Who was our other one? We said we have one more. No, he's not gonna do it?

00:32:48
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00:33:49
Speaker 3: Billy solving the world's problems. I gotta hear yees.

00:33:51
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:33:52
Speaker 9: No.

00:33:52
Speaker 4: So we'll talk some stuff that I don't feel comfortable talking about on this show because it makes people mad, but we do that. It's at six o'clock WHAS or on The Matt Jones Show podcast feed. We'll take a break hopefully unless Ryan Lyde have Dan Skirka when we're to return. And this is Kentucky Sports Radio.

00:34:15
Speaker 5: Quarterback.

00:34:16
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00:34:38
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00:34:40
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00:35:06
Speaker 5: Dan, we had you on last week. We just called you up and got you.

00:35:09
Speaker 4: Now you got interviews so much and we have to you know, we had you were gonna be last segment.

00:35:13
Speaker 5: Now you're this one. This has got to been a crazy ride for you.

00:35:16
Speaker 6: Right, unbelievable. I mean, you can't describe it. Just it doesn't feel real. We're enjoying it. We're soaking it all in until we are excited for work.

00:35:28
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean that's gotta be well. First of all, I gotta go back to Monday because I enjoyed that so much.

00:35:34
Speaker 5: Watching you guys.

00:35:35
Speaker 4: I've watched more Murray State baseball than I've watched any baseball team except the Reds in about five years.

00:35:43
Speaker 5: It's five to four. You get the interference call.

00:35:47
Speaker 4: There's a dog pile in the center of the thing, and then they say to you, hey, buddy, get up, tuck your shirt in. You gotta do it again. Tell me what that's like for you as a manager.

00:36:00
Speaker 6: Oh man, Well, well, you know the play. I'm an infield coach. I love it. I instructed I, I you know, go around the country, you know, presenting and and I'm watching the play my second basement. Did it right? I mean, he cleared the sliding zone, you know, had a good feed from the shortstop, made the play. I saw the interference. I did not think in real time. I'm like, he ain't calling that, you know. I just thought in that moment, you know, it's like pass interference at the end of the game, right, you just you know, sometimes they call it, Usually they don't call it, or you know that file they kind of play on. Right, they tucked the whistle at the end of the game.

00:36:33
Speaker 5: I did not.

00:36:34
Speaker 6: Think it was going to get called. And then sure enough he did call it, and I was like, that's the right call, and then you know, we went crazy. There's there's people everywhere were you know, hugging, celebrating. There's hats and gloves and sunglasses flying around. And then yeah, the umpire finally got our attention and said they were challenging, and yeah, I had to tell my guys to get off the field, and the looks on their faces were just like you got to be kidney just to have to do that. That's amazing, you know, it makes the story that much better. But it was wild. I mean, our hearts, you know, during that review was just it was it was crazy. And then you know, for our guys to go out and do that after that, you know, to go back out and get that lasted out, was just it's amazing. I'm so proud of them.

00:37:16
Speaker 4: Well, it was very exciting, and this is one of the great underdog stories of all time. But I'm sure you tell your team you're not an underdog, right, Yes, you're going to Omaha, but you deserve to be there as much as anybody else. And they also kind of put you in the hard bracket as well down there, but you got I'm sure that's what you're telling your guys, right.

00:37:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean one hundred percent. We've put into work these guys, I mean from day one, you know, just just assembling the roster with twenty eight newcomers this year, and in the fall. You know, we weren't very good in the fall, but they put in the work, you know, weight room, classroom, and then obviously on the field. These guys love the game and they've prepared for these moments, and that's that's what we told them, you know, to try to try to ignore the distractions, because there's a lot of distractions right now, but to play ball, to have fun and compete the way they always have. And there are plenty, plenty good enough and I think to go to Ole Miss, you know, two weeks ago. That gave him the confidence. And then obviously Duke was a really good team, a prestigious team, a bunch of really good players, good coaches, but they were confident that they could not just play with them, but we can win that thing and get your to Omaha.

00:38:23
Speaker 4: Well you did it. You did it for those of us who still hate lightners. So thank you very much.

00:38:28
Speaker 5: For uh for doing that.

00:38:30
Speaker 4: All right, so now you get to Omaha, I assume have you you've been to Omaha for the College World Series.

00:38:35
Speaker 5: I'm sure have you been there? Just to the environment and all that.

00:38:38
Speaker 6: Oh, to be honest with you, I wanted to earn my first trip. I have never been out here.

00:38:44
Speaker 5: Cool.

00:38:45
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just you know, some buddies have come out here. And now that you know my son's nine, oh, you got to take your kid out there once and al and I just said, man, ilust just want to earn that first one. And when we pulled up yesterday to see the stadium and to see our banner hanging on the stadium, I mean, I mean just unbelievable.

00:39:06
Speaker 5: So I've been there.

00:39:08
Speaker 4: I went a few years ago when when I didn't care who the teams were, and I kind of just didn't because people are like, oh, yatta go and and I thought, well whatever, and I went and I had the most fun. I mean, it was the just people everywhere. The city embraces it. I mean, I know you're going there to win, but you do have to take a minute right and go, this is amazing that I'm a part of this.

00:39:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got here yesterday and it hasn't filled in yet with all the fans and media and everything yet. But I think the biggest thing, you know, with the stars kind of aligned on Monday for our game to be the seven o'clock primetime game. You know, a couple of series had to finish and they did. You know, we played at noon basically in one o'clock Saturday and Sunday, and we were sitting around Sunday night waiting to find out what time we were going to play. And then when we got ven o'clock game, you know, like yourself, that a lot of people all over the country got a chance to watch that game and and see our story. And you know, I was just walking around the the block last night with my wife, just wearing a Murray State shirt like I always do. But everybody was kind of you know, congratulating and pointing and took a couple of pictures and it's like, holy cow, this this this is real. We're gonna have a lot of fun.

00:40:23
Speaker 5: So, oh, you're gonna be the local favorite. I mean, you are.

00:40:26
Speaker 4: They always when stony Brook went a few years ago, that was the year I went, was when Stony Brooke and there was no doubt the city was for stony Brook. You're gonna have that. I mean, you've been playing these road games. I think sometimes, especially when you play UCLA, I think you're gonna feel like the home team in there.

00:40:44
Speaker 6: Coach, well, that will be that will be different because.

00:40:52
Speaker 5: Be different. Yeah, they own SHU and ARCT, so it might be different. All right. So I just got a minute or two. I gotta ask you a couple of questions.

00:40:58
Speaker 4: Do you mote the grass at the stadium that's all that going around?

00:41:02
Speaker 6: I do not.

00:41:02
Speaker 5: I do not.

00:41:03
Speaker 6: I don't know where that started.

00:41:05
Speaker 5: And I knew he didn't. I knew he didn't mow the ground.

00:41:07
Speaker 6: I'd like to some days, to get away from everything else. I would love to, but no, they don't let me do that.

00:41:13
Speaker 5: So tell me last thing here.

00:41:15
Speaker 4: Your kids, all right, who I'm sure everybody believes, but I'm sure, deep in their hearts, I don't know if they thought this would happen, certainly when the season started, maybe even when the playoffs started.

00:41:27
Speaker 5: What's it like for them right now? Before this big time?

00:41:31
Speaker 6: Man, you can't wipe this off their faces. You know, Nike and Evil Shield came and spoiled them this morning with their with their Omaha gear and just to earn all that stuff. You know, it wasn't just handed to us, you know, in August when they showed up on campus like they've earned They've earned all this gear and all these videos and all the attention and interviews and podcasts and getting on these graphics with with some of these other programs. You know, they they've earned it. And I think that just I just I think they realized it's a great group of guys. They really are. If you're looking for somebody to root for you, they really really are a great group. So it's just it means the world to them. I mean, it really does. It's awesome.

00:42:13
Speaker 4: Well you should tell Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Paul Skens, Will Clark and now the Murray State Racers there and Omar good luck this weekend.

00:42:23
Speaker 5: Coach, we'll be pulling for you.

00:42:25
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Appreciate you all having me on.

00:42:27
Speaker 5: There you go. How about that? How awesome is that? Thank you?

00:42:30
Speaker 4: Thank you to coach s Kirka and hey, thank you all very much for having us here. We first time we've done this and what everybody else got a hard standard to meet to for home hosting. Thank you all, We very much appreciate it. Tomorrow we will be at the US Army two hundred and fiftieth and two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.

00:42:50
Speaker 5: Sir Barton Way, what's the number. Yes, all right, Yes, we'll have it online.

00:42:54
Speaker 4: You can find it. We'll see you later. It's a big Kentucky Sports Radio