S2E3: SoCal Cup Roundup, AVCA Rankings, and NCAA Champ Picks

The Coaches Group Chat

In this episode, we explore:
• SoCal Cup roundup
• Game results and reflections on tournament performances 
• Insights into coaching strategies and player growth 
• Discussion on AVCA rankings and predictions for upcoming matches 
• Anecdotes from tournament chaos and life in volleyball 
• National Champion predictions

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<v Chad Gordon>Someone was asking how's life going and I was like, well, I'm coaching, we're doing this AI business in volleyball.

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<v Chad Gordon>All volleyball we have a podcast that I drive down to Morgan Hill for once a week.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's about volleyball.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>To talk about mostly volleyball.

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<v Chad Gordon>My girlfriend also coaches volleyball and then some afternoons I go play some beach volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Can I eat volleyball for dinner, bob, can I eat volleyball for dinner?

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<v Chad Gordon>Bob.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Welcome back to the coaches group chat.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We all have lost our voices.

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<v Chad Gordon>I'm doing okay.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh yeah, but your better half is.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>She took one for the team Bobby is home, not able to speak right now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm getting closer as we speak.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm feeling it for sure.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This is the first tournament that I didn't double duty like AM wave, PM wave, but still my but it was my voice is a struggle.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Pm.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Wave is a killer.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, pm wave stinks, it's the worst PM wave to PM wave and then, like, we were there till like eight or 9 o'clock in the gym and then you have an 8 am match.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, it's a crazy turnaround.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, it's not.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's not ideal Usually.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's why most of the open divisions are in the am.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Chad's.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like I've been in pm every single weekend Just keeping my mouth shut.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This is his first time that he wasn't.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>He wasn't.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>P's a beautiful thing 15 open.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We were in pm every single tournament yeah, we, we've been am the whole time.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This is our first time, so, and I hated it should we hop into our docket?

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<v Matt Houlihan>we have many things to discuss.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Chad's on a tight schedule here.

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<v Matt Houlihan>He's got to be up for polish, polish happy hour and four hours is that hour?

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<v Chad Gordon>That's not how time works 8 am.

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<v Chad Gordon>You never know.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Polish happy hour Is that 8 am.

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<v Chad Gordon>Polish happy hours.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's not a lifestyle.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let's hop into a little SoCal Cup action.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let's talk about some finishes.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You want to start us off?

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<v Matt Houlihan>You had the best finish so you can.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I guess you can go first.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You want to start at the?

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<v Chad Gordon>top.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I first.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You want to start at the top of the bottom?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Hey, easy, uh, yeah, we got third it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I mean, I don't know, for us it doesn't feel great, but we, uh, we were close.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We played balboa in the semis.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We had a great match against sports performance in the uh quarters.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Um, or, we played great I saw that you guys look.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You guys looked sharp in that one.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, we looked sharp in that game.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We were battling with our own selves the entire weekend.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I think it was.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We missed 52 serves on day one.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It was a nice little.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We just started trying to figure out exactly what we're doing, Hoping that the aggression on the serve is paying off by the end.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>But really we got beat on the serve at the end.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, Um you got beat by your opponent's serve yeah.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like they.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>They were cracking serves at us and they were aggressive in and yeah, and so, um, we're trying to get to that point, I think, and we weren't there yet and we were still close to them, I think.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Our just numbers wise, we weren't even.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We were not there at all.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So, like, I'm actually glad that we were that close and didn't play really close to our potential, but had some really good moments with my team this weekend.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So I'm I'm actually pretty satisfied with where we are at at this point in the year, um, and very excited about the summer with this group.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So, yeah, 18s group going into high school season, last high school round.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The loyal listeners are gonna remember this well.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But last time, one year ago to this day, to that event, uh, the 15s I was coaching last year, we finished ninth loss in the first round of gold.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was one of those matches where, like, the chain was just like wasn't fully off the bicycle, but it was.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was like kind of off, yeah, and you're trying to get it going and just keeps on.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That's not clicking.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>We felt that last tournament.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That was a.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That was a little bit of the 15s again this weekend in the struggle.

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<v Matt Houlihan>So, kyle Chamberlain my, it's been my sister the past two seasons.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We see this, the court we get scheduled on for the final day of play for soaking up.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's the same exact court.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh, and we were like bad omen.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Bad omen right here redemption arc.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh, yeah, a little bit of redemption we did.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We won the playing game so we didn't finish ninth, but we did end up losing.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh to 630 15s.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Uh, we just yeah, they just beat us.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We did not play our best game and we certainly had a little bit of the uh, the chain off the bicycle syndrome yeah um, but yeah, like, uh, like we talked about last year very similar to this year as well was a lot of really cool progress.

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<v Matt Houlihan>This is a team.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I asked them all at the end of like where, literally where were you last year?

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<v Matt Houlihan>This time, our 14 ones guys were.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They lost in the finals of the bronze division.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Last year at this event, three of my guys were playing in the ncva girls power league kickoff tournament at san jose, this is an improvement yeah, all right hi one of them was playing in a girls tournament in washington, that's wild, definitely redemption and one of them wasn't playing volleyball at all.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>And so it was like a a yeah, a huge variety of where these kids have been at and what they were doing now.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Um, it's so funny how that conversation keeps going at each level of like.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I had the same conversation with Rafa of like we're devastated after these losses because it hurts so bad.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>And then you're like, okay, let's talk about where you're at a year and a half ago.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Like you're like the, the, the climb in this like trajectory of these kids.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It happens so quickly when they get to a next level and the next level and then it almost hurts worse at the next level and it keeps becoming like something that they're reaching for and it's just like a cool.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's cool that we all are kind of having those conversations of like where were you at?

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<v Matt Houlihan>yeah, Jackson's ready.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>He's telling Chad it's your turn and emotional support animal with you when we talk about come on down how we doing.

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<v Chad Gordon>Okay, I need you to lay down.

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<v Chad Gordon>That'd be great.

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<v Chad Gordon>All right, I'm moving the feet, yeah no okay impose your will full butt slam, all right we thought this was chad cam.

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<v Chad Gordon>This is actually jackson's camera I can't wait to cut to this where he's just like I don't care what you need right now.

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<v Chad Gordon>Hello, welcome, yeah, 17s.

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<v Chad Gordon>Uh, good, tournament won the silver division for us.

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<v Chad Gordon>Um, it's not too bad right now.

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<v Chad Gordon>Played a really strong match against 949 in our day two pool that yeah, we were up.

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<v Chad Gordon>We were up really big in the first, like a lot of people there for that yeah, no, we were playing good ball, um, you know, we had played our, our premier team, our twos team, right before um, and got a good win against them, because that's a really talented team.

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<v Chad Gordon>And then, yeah, I mean, we're just, things were kind of going our way against nine, four, nine, and then all of a sudden kind of death by a thousand cuts.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, um, they chipped, they started chipping, yeah, yeah, and you know, end up on the new on the podiums.

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<v Chad Gordon>So, no, it was, it was good.

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<v Chad Gordon>I mean, we finished out the tournament.

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<v Chad Gordon>Two wins, two, three setters.

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<v Chad Gordon>So, parents, you got your money's worth.

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<v Chad Gordon>And you know, I thought the best thing for us was, like the last point, to win the third.

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<v Chad Gordon>You know, whatever, 1512 against a breaking was, you know, setter digs, great communication, like slower steps in such this great high ball and Miguel, like rips high, high, flat off the hands, it goes over the middle backside and we're like the exact shit we've been like trying to work on.

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, I'm like guy digs, great communication, here's this ball, here's how you hit this thing, like for that to like be that last point, it was like oh okay, better we're getting better you know, and of course for our guys it's just, and you know, for for alex and I too, right it's just.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's frustrating because you see the success of everybody else in the club and you know those guys want part of that too yeah yeah so, but it was a.

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<v Chad Gordon>It was a great step, for sure, yeah so in due time, boys, in due time.

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<v Matt Houlihan>That's how it goes, that's good.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I mean soca cup on the on the hole, obviously a lot of like.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There's some tension coming into the event with all of the wildfires and things going on around.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There were a few teams that dropped across the event.

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<v Matt Houlihan>None of our teams dropped.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We had a few families that did opt out Not a ton.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I think that a lot of the teams that did drop were all some teams from out flying in.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There's definitely more to lose for them if something did go wrong.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So it was kind of more of a situation there, um, but overall packed convention center, nothing.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>There was nothing about downtown that I felt was much different than normal.

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<v Matt Houlihan>No, yeah, it was its own normal, crazy los angeles so let's talk about los angeles man, oh man, yes, let's get in Los Angeles.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Man, oh man, yes, let's get in that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But real quick.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let me give you one thing here on just this general event.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We've been there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Now what four or five?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>times, yeah, it's been about four or five times, yeah, last couple years.

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<v Chad Gordon>Five times yeah.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I love me some Anaheim Convention Center, like probably my favorite place of all time.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's just nostalgic.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You've played there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The size the hotels all the stuff that's around.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's also just very family friendly Disneyland.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>You got Disneyland right there.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Even Vegas, vegas, at least hotels.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You know you're going to have a ton of hotels.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>People feel split on Vegas, though I get that yes.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Everyone's flying in, but it's honestly, it's a little.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's cheaper than people feel split on vegas in general of like bringing youth sporting events into vegas like yeah, yeah, whatever well, downtown la was the worst city it was wild, not not because of wildfires, not because it was just wild, because it was like.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was like an apocalyptic place for three days.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's like somebody took a bunch of things in Sims and just dropped them all on the same place.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's like I'm going to add 57 billboards on one building and it's going to be extra, extra, extra large and there's going to be a little bit of space and we're going to forget that we have to clean it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Extra, extra, extra large and there's gonna be a little bit of space and it's just gonna like, and we're gonna forget that we have to clean it.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>I know I guess some homeless lady was outside the hotel like was banging on one of the doors with the hammer security kind of shoes.

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<v Chad Gordon>Her away goes around to the other side because, like like, the AC and the mox are kind of like two things ends up coming back to the middle and, just like again from our producer bobby, just smashes this hammer into like I don't know, it's a 20 foot piece of like glass, glass like so you know, people are like walking out of the hotel in the morning it's all like taped up and whatever.

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<v Chad Gordon>Like what happened here points to those guys.

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<v Chad Gordon>It was up and fixed by the end of the day, but they got a good glass guy down the home.

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<v Chad Gordon>The homeless hammer was coming in hot at like midnight or something like that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The homeless hammer was crazy.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We're walking out, I mean it's also.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Did you get this on film when we were walking out?

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yes, I was filming a video.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I screamed.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I was filming a video of the hot dog cart vendors, of that's a dog.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Hot dog hot dog, hot dog, hot dog.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Just getting berated for for hot dogs Also, the smells of that make me want to vomit.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Every single time the 7.15 am bacon hot dog and there's always someone buying one.

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<v Chad Gordon>That's what's crazy.

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<v Chad Gordon>The smells of that make me want to buy one.

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<v Chad Gordon>What are you talking?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>about?

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<v Chad Gordon>No, not me I don't know which camera I need to look at, but they're wrong, I haven't purchased one yet, but I'm overdue.

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<v Chad Gordon>You're overdue for for food poisoning?

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<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, but was a hot dog for halloween, as we'll all remember I love a hot dog.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I just something about the smells of that at seven in the morning when we've been drinking till three in the morning you gotta want it not for me.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Up your commitment, it was, it's hilarious.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think it's very funny, so I was filming a video of it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>When we're walking out on day three and as I'm filming that video of everyone yelling hot dog, hot dog, hot dog at us and literal explosion goes off right outside the convention center, I look over the sky and there's just stuff like plume of smoke there's a plume of smoke and there's these like bags just drifting through the air and we look over and there's this whole like group of adults on bikes.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>They just start like adults is a strong word yeah, but they word.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It wasn't like 12-year-olds.

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<v Chad Gordon>It was like.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They're 20-year-olds-ish and they all just start scattering.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Everyone's going.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Don't be suspicious.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Don't be suspicious.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You look over, there's a concrete trash can that has been blown up.

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<v Matt Houlihan>There was a literal explosive device inside of this trash can.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They blew up.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It must have been a firework or something.

00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.807
<v Matt Houlihan>And it was the loudest bang of all time.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It was just a spectacle.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>If that would have happened somewhere else, it would have been potentially national news.

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<v Matt Houlihan>DC yeah, like Washington DC yeah 100%, if that would have happened.

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<v Chad Gordon>That was business as usual down there.

00:12:45.866 --> 00:12:50.110
<v Chad Gordon>We had to break the news on our podcast, like that's how normal that is down there.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It was actually like if that would have happened and there was like a major event going on like uh the grammys, the emmys, all that stuff set the peacock theater right there.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>That would have been right there I really do think that that's like national news, when something like it could have killed somebody.

00:13:03.749 --> 00:13:05.893
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, for sure, 100% could have killed somebody.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The massive concrete trash can was crumbled Like that thing was put to abyss.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>So all these stories short, this place is not a tourism place anymore.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's definitely not my top choice, is it?

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<v Matt Houlihan>In your bottom choice oh yeah, I would, I would take me to anaheim san diego las vegas in the country to be fair, I would rather fly to la than connect pretty much anywhere.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Okay, that's okay that I do.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I do understand, okay okay, I do.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I do agree with that, because the indiana thing was like ridiculous about how long it took.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, yeah, it just takes forever yeah.

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<v Chad Gordon>I agree with that.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'll deal with it, but like there, we have got to get out of.

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<v Matt Houlihan>LA.

00:14:00.230 --> 00:14:01.049
<v Matt Houlihan>They're not.

00:14:01.049 --> 00:14:02.370
<v Matt Houlihan>They're not going anywhere out of LA.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We didn't even finish the last of the stories.

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<v Matt Houlihan>The last night, the go-kart roundup was.

00:14:06.732 --> 00:14:09.173
<v Chad Gordon>Oh my gosh, the go-kart roundup.

00:14:09.173 --> 00:14:10.414
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, We've been there a few times, right.

00:14:10.414 --> 00:14:26.342
<v Chad Gordon>And so we have these guys that are on like regular, like bikes not bikes, but like motorcycles, right and it's like a group of maybe like 50 or 80 of them and they'll just take over the street and they'll be going blowing past red lights whatever they're loud, but it's kind of fun and like they're hitting wheelies.

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<v Chad Gordon>That's cool.

00:14:26.883 --> 00:14:27.743
<v Chad Gordon>I'm used to that.

00:14:27.743 --> 00:14:30.489
<v Chad Gordon>We've done this before this time.

00:14:31.250 --> 00:14:42.711
<v Chad Gordon>Little solo like Mario cart kind of size go-kart like little go-kart things, yeah, like you're like flat on the ground and there are these guys is doing these burnouts, I don't know 50 or 80 people kind of in that.

00:14:42.711 --> 00:14:46.455
<v Chad Gordon>In that mix the cops come on in.

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<v Chad Gordon>They try to kind of box them in their go-karts.

00:14:49.214 --> 00:14:54.150
<v Chad Gordon>They're faster than the little Ford escapes and so they're trying to round them up.

00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:55.615
<v Chad Gordon>They're like fleeing out the backside.

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<v Chad Gordon>They're going like under the little metal things Like cause the arm doesn't need to go up if you're in a go-kart.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>It's like Mad Max meets Mario Kart.

00:15:02.009 --> 00:15:09.272
<v Chad Gordon>Basically, yeah, and you know now.

00:15:09.272 --> 00:15:15.100
<v Chad Gordon>They're like blocking traffic on a pretty busy street, like the cops are trying little go-karts, flipping them off and then going the other way because they're just maneuverable.

00:15:15.100 --> 00:15:17.471
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, it was what was the Joker?

00:15:17.471 --> 00:15:19.181
<v Chad Gordon>It was like the PG-13.

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<v Chad Gordon>I thought it was the R-rated version of Mario.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Kart.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's like Grand Theft Auto meets Mario Kart.

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<v Chad Gordon>Basically, they had balloons on the back.

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<v Chad Gordon>Honestly they should have.

00:15:27.392 --> 00:15:30.524
<v Chad Gordon>That would have made way more sense, but missed opportunity.

00:15:31.225 --> 00:15:33.431
<v Matt Houlihan>They were throwing street hot dogs rather than the manas.

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<v Chad Gordon>And to your point, this is just whatever 1 pm on a Monday.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>This was yesterday.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Oh my gosh, what a time.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I get how hard the convention center stuff is, but man LA is maybe my least favorite.

00:15:52.234 --> 00:15:54.433
<v Arielle Houlihan>The hotels are not.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It just logistically speaking the convention center is at its capacity for this event.

00:16:01.118 --> 00:16:03.250
<v Matt Houlihan>For what boys volleyball is?

00:16:04.293 --> 00:16:04.895
<v Arielle Houlihan>How many courts?

00:16:06.225 --> 00:16:08.452
<v Matt Houlihan>They've got to be like near 90-ish courts in there.

00:16:08.865 --> 00:16:10.129
<v Arielle Houlihan>Maybe 80-something.

00:16:10.412 --> 00:16:12.966
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, I mean when you get banished to the West Hall like the 15th.

00:16:12.917 --> 00:16:13.399
<v Arielle Houlihan>Sid, that's a tough time over there.

00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:13.644
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we.

00:16:13.644 --> 00:16:14.683
<v Arielle Houlihan>You get banished to the West hall like the 15th that's over there.

00:16:14.634 --> 00:16:16.197
<v Chad Gordon>That's a tough that's a tough time over there.

00:16:16.197 --> 00:16:17.058
<v Chad Gordon>We two were banished.

00:16:17.058 --> 00:16:19.270
<v Chad Gordon>Yes, yeah, I got hit by more stray volleyball.

00:16:19.270 --> 00:16:19.993
<v Chad Gordon>I was in that place.

00:16:19.993 --> 00:16:29.610
<v Chad Gordon>I don't know if the level's just low over there but, like Jones.

00:16:29.610 --> 00:16:30.811
<v Chad Gordon>Jones got hit in the face.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I got hit in the West Hall, that's all I'm saying, but the real part of it is the hotel situation.

00:16:38.155 --> 00:16:40.677
<v Matt Houlihan>Hotels are very tough in LA.

00:16:40.677 --> 00:16:45.662
<v Matt Houlihan>There's nothing that's attached, there's small ones that are close, in walking distance.

00:16:45.662 --> 00:16:47.123
<v Matt Houlihan>No one will work with you.

00:16:47.123 --> 00:16:53.091
<v Matt Houlihan>No one wants to give you a block bigger than like 20 rooms.

00:16:53.091 --> 00:16:54.714
<v Matt Houlihan>Logistically for clubs it's difficult.

00:16:54.714 --> 00:17:00.942
<v Matt Houlihan>I would love to get back to a place where you're at and I have, because Anaheim is one of the largest convention centers, so you can scale up and do it.

00:17:00.942 --> 00:17:04.085
<v Matt Houlihan>Hotels are obviously abundant and close and everywhere.

00:17:04.164 --> 00:17:05.609
<v Matt Houlihan>And it's just way more family friendly.

00:17:05.609 --> 00:17:07.556
<v Matt Houlihan>But yeah, that's.

00:17:07.556 --> 00:17:13.075
<v Matt Houlihan>That's the other reason why I said about Vegas is like Vegas is less family friendly, but at least everyone's like you're attached.

00:17:13.997 --> 00:17:15.459
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, I'd way rather go to Vegas.

00:17:15.459 --> 00:17:16.951
<v Arielle Houlihan>You have a choice of where to stay.

00:17:16.951 --> 00:17:19.209
<v Arielle Houlihan>You have a choice of, like, what you want to do.

00:17:19.209 --> 00:17:20.432
<v Arielle Houlihan>It's.

00:17:20.893 --> 00:17:21.134
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

00:17:21.473 --> 00:17:22.355
<v Arielle Houlihan>The casinos are good.

00:17:22.355 --> 00:17:22.797
<v Arielle Houlihan>The casinos.

00:17:22.817 --> 00:17:30.118
<v Matt Houlihan>But theoretically, yes, there's a lot more ways you can get in trouble in Vegas if you are inclined to that Sure, to that lifestyle.

00:17:34.884 --> 00:17:35.989
<v Chad Gordon>You can probably get in trouble in downtown los angeles.

00:17:36.009 --> 00:17:36.852
<v Matt Houlihan>You may have missed the bomb that went off.

00:17:36.852 --> 00:17:37.313
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, I would rather.

00:17:37.313 --> 00:17:47.165
<v Matt Houlihan>I would rather my kids walk from the mandalay bay to the convention center than my kids walk from I would the jw marriott to there's more security in these casinos?

00:17:47.205 --> 00:17:52.976
<v Matt Houlihan>yeah, there's no, yeah let's get into the meat potatoes of what we do.

00:17:52.976 --> 00:17:56.307
<v Matt Houlihan>New ABCA rankings, let's go.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Ucla lost badly, by the way, to Ohio State.

00:18:00.106 --> 00:18:04.208
<v Matt Houlihan>It was an ugly loss, and so we have a new number one.

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<v Matt Houlihan>According to the ABCA, our new number one and favorite for the national championship is Long Beach State.

00:18:10.961 --> 00:18:12.691
<v Arielle Houlihan>How many people voted for Long Beach?

00:18:13.404 --> 00:18:14.929
<v Matt Houlihan>I think there's 23 votes and Long Beach State got 22 of people voted for Long Beach.

00:18:14.929 --> 00:18:17.715
<v Matt Houlihan>I think there's 23 votes and Long Beach State got 22 of them.

00:18:17.715 --> 00:18:18.759
<v Matt Houlihan>Who?

00:18:18.798 --> 00:18:19.019
<v Arielle Houlihan>got one.

00:18:19.184 --> 00:18:21.432
<v Matt Houlihan>There's one rogue vote out there, we'll get to it.

00:18:21.432 --> 00:18:22.013
<v Matt Houlihan>We'll get to it.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Long Beach State number one.

00:18:24.310 --> 00:18:25.394
<v Matt Houlihan>Irvine number two.

00:18:25.394 --> 00:18:27.553
<v Matt Houlihan>Ucla drops back to number three.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Hawaii hangs at number four.

00:18:29.230 --> 00:18:39.038
<v Matt Houlihan>Still Number five is BYU, who is the lone other number one ranked team.

00:18:39.038 --> 00:18:42.275
<v Matt Houlihan>They got one singular vote for first place.

00:18:42.275 --> 00:18:47.154
<v Matt Houlihan>We can put on our tin hats and make a conspiracy theory on who we think that is so.

00:18:47.174 --> 00:18:48.198
<v Arielle Houlihan>BYU got the one vote.

00:18:48.945 --> 00:18:52.491
<v Matt Houlihan>BYU is the other team that received a vote for number one.

00:18:52.491 --> 00:19:04.944
<v Matt Houlihan>This is a ranking by the coaches on the they get to kind of cast their vote for one through 20, and then they tally up those numbers and that's how they kind of certify the rankings.

00:19:04.944 --> 00:19:07.775
<v Matt Houlihan>So when you get a number one vote, they put that in there.

00:19:08.625 --> 00:19:13.990
<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm just explaining, for all the people that need to know Somebody voted for BYU, was it you?

00:19:14.885 --> 00:19:15.690
<v Chad Gordon>It was Keone for sure.

00:19:18.866 --> 00:19:20.292
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think that it was.

00:19:20.292 --> 00:19:24.686
<v Arielle Houlihan>I mean, it's got to be BYU, right.

00:19:26.166 --> 00:19:26.728
<v Matt Houlihan>Vote for yourself.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, I wonder what that?

00:19:28.949 --> 00:19:31.997
<v Matt Houlihan>What's that they used to publish the results?

00:19:32.972 --> 00:19:33.856
<v Arielle Houlihan>Give me some transparency.

00:19:33.856 --> 00:19:36.558
<v Arielle Houlihan>We don't like any non-transparency.

00:19:36.630 --> 00:19:39.318
<v Matt Houlihan>That way we could call out the people who are just doing a bad job voting.

00:19:39.691 --> 00:19:42.555
<v Chad Gordon>They're just not paying attention obviously this is copy and paste from last week.

00:19:42.575 --> 00:19:46.160
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, last week and then like oh, if they saw that you said I lost they adjusted.

00:19:46.509 --> 00:19:49.599
<v Chad Gordon>Do you think Nipe is someone who wouldn't vote for his own team at one?

00:19:56.450 --> 00:19:57.675
<v Matt Houlihan>That was one of the things I was thinking.

00:19:57.675 --> 00:19:59.867
<v Matt Houlihan>Maybe Knipe voted for BYU as a joke, no, just to give his team something else.

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<v Matt Houlihan>You're not unanimous.

00:20:01.173 --> 00:20:01.896
<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, I love that.

00:20:03.092 --> 00:20:04.798
<v Matt Houlihan>You're not a unanimous number one.

00:20:06.534 --> 00:20:07.376
<v Arielle Houlihan>No, I voted for us.

00:20:08.211 --> 00:20:10.018
<v Matt Houlihan>Also, aren't they playing BYU?

00:20:10.018 --> 00:20:12.916
<v Matt Houlihan>No, it's not this week or next week.

00:20:12.936 --> 00:20:13.910
<v Arielle Houlihan>I was like that's a funny one.

00:20:13.910 --> 00:20:14.278
<v Matt Houlihan>That would have been funny.

00:20:14.278 --> 00:20:15.076
<v Matt Houlihan>They play Ir not this week or next week.

00:20:15.019 --> 00:20:15.512
<v Arielle Houlihan>Oh, I was like that's a funny one.

00:20:15.512 --> 00:20:15.762
<v Arielle Houlihan>That would have been funny.

00:20:15.762 --> 00:20:16.993
<v Arielle Houlihan>No, they play, they play.

00:20:17.173 --> 00:20:17.938
<v Matt Houlihan>Irvine this week.

00:20:17.938 --> 00:20:20.329
<v Matt Houlihan>No, byu does Long Beach plays.

00:20:20.430 --> 00:20:21.153
<v Arielle Houlihan>Long Beach plays.

00:20:22.115 --> 00:20:22.557
<v Matt Houlihan>Pepperdine.

00:20:22.817 --> 00:20:23.559
<v Arielle Houlihan>Pepperdine correct.

00:20:24.049 --> 00:20:26.338
<v Matt Houlihan>God, I'm an almanac of.

00:20:26.651 --> 00:20:28.096
<v Arielle Houlihan>No, you just studied right before this.

00:20:28.869 --> 00:20:30.010
<v Chad Gordon>Or you might be confidently wrong.

00:20:30.050 --> 00:20:32.515
<v Arielle Houlihan>We're not actually sure actually sure we're not fact-checking this at all.

00:20:32.515 --> 00:20:34.176
<v Arielle Houlihan>That's true, I'm not fact-checking it.

00:20:34.636 --> 00:20:38.761
<v Matt Houlihan>You're wrong, I'm right, nice try, that's not bad.

00:20:38.761 --> 00:20:40.443
<v Matt Houlihan>What do we think?

00:20:40.443 --> 00:20:41.965
<v Matt Houlihan>What do we think about these rankings?

00:20:41.965 --> 00:20:44.673
<v Matt Houlihan>Any adjustments?

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think Stanford bumped up to nine after beating Penn State, ohio State, loyola's, the ten, no, the eight, that I'm not confident on, but I know that ball state stayed, uh, stayed above Stanford, so they lost to BYU.

00:21:02.891 --> 00:21:04.796
<v Arielle Houlihan>They lost to BYU and they stayed.

00:21:05.337 --> 00:21:06.621
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, they're happy he was ahead of them.

00:21:06.849 --> 00:21:11.875
<v Arielle Houlihan>So he was number one according to according to maybe, maybe, ball state voted for them as number one.

00:21:12.156 --> 00:21:12.858
<v Matt Houlihan>Classic Donan.

00:21:12.878 --> 00:21:13.480
<v Chad Gordon>Donan could have.

00:21:13.509 --> 00:21:15.734
<v Matt Houlihan>Donan could have been like we lost to the number one team.

00:21:16.576 --> 00:21:20.284
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, game theory, yeah, I don't know.

00:21:20.284 --> 00:21:22.596
<v Chad Gordon>I mean I watched.

00:21:22.596 --> 00:21:26.876
<v Chad Gordon>The only UCLA I've watched was really that like I watched half of the Ohio State one.

00:21:27.130 --> 00:21:28.095
<v Matt Houlihan>That was the bad game to watch.

00:21:28.670 --> 00:21:31.137
<v Chad Gordon>That was, but I think a pretty telling game to watch.

00:21:31.137 --> 00:21:36.993
<v Chad Gordon>I mean, I don't know, they didn't play that great at the beginning of last year too.

00:21:36.993 --> 00:21:42.297
<v Chad Gordon>They're I mean, they have some stuff they got to figure out like without champlin, like they're, yeah, passing the rock very well.

00:21:42.297 --> 00:21:46.414
<v Chad Gordon>That's the biggest thing I saw like like rowan is still playing really fast.

00:21:46.414 --> 00:21:48.704
<v Chad Gordon>Like you know, david like hit a lot of balls out of bounds.

00:21:48.704 --> 00:21:50.351
<v Chad Gordon>That was pretty interesting.

00:21:51.232 --> 00:22:05.679
<v Matt Houlihan>Um, like both lefts did some like really impressive stuff and then like just yeah, soft block, soft block yeah, they had a couple defensive plays where they like just fumbled the ball like they had absolute golden opportunities and whiffed it.

00:22:05.679 --> 00:22:14.034
<v Matt Houlihan>But yeah, I think the biggest thing I agree was there just doesn't look like they have a glue guy, like champlin was 100.

00:22:14.234 --> 00:22:22.933
<v Matt Houlihan>Their glue guy last year made the team go even when they struggled, yeah, they were always in it and they always looked yeah, together, they looked put together.

00:22:22.933 --> 00:22:29.919
<v Matt Houlihan>Even when they weren't like, the chain wasn't fully on the bike, they still looked like they could could beat anyone yeah yeah, I wonder, I wonder who.

00:22:31.261 --> 00:22:32.733
<v Chad Gordon>Who's the leader on that team right now?

00:22:32.733 --> 00:22:34.343
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, who steps into philadelphia?

00:22:34.825 --> 00:22:35.086
<v Matt Houlihan>is it?

00:22:35.086 --> 00:22:36.131
<v Matt Houlihan>Is it cooper robertson?

00:22:36.131 --> 00:22:36.873
<v Matt Houlihan>Is it rowan?

00:22:36.873 --> 00:22:37.314
<v Matt Houlihan>Is it?

00:22:37.314 --> 00:22:38.737
<v Matt Houlihan>I don't know?

00:22:38.737 --> 00:22:46.059
<v Matt Houlihan>I don't know who fills that role and you know that I'm sure will become more clear, but that was, and you know that's sports.

00:22:46.059 --> 00:22:48.653
<v Matt Houlihan>Someone's gonna have to fill into that to be a top team.

00:22:48.653 --> 00:22:55.878
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, but it was clear and it was a testament, I think, to champlin of how important he was for that squad Alex Knight too.

00:22:56.361 --> 00:22:58.657
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, yeah, let's not discount Knight also.

00:22:59.611 --> 00:23:00.031
<v Matt Houlihan>Two guys.

00:23:00.031 --> 00:23:09.109
<v Matt Houlihan>That Knight didn't play as big of an all-around role but when he was plugged in, as was shown by his most outstanding player, of the tournament.

00:23:09.109 --> 00:23:10.516
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, he was super stable.

00:23:11.611 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Arielle Houlihan>That should be an award given most outstanding stability.

00:23:15.271 --> 00:23:16.518
<v Chad Gordon>Most stable, most outstanding stability.

00:23:16.538 --> 00:23:16.798
<v Matt Houlihan>Most stable.

00:23:16.818 --> 00:23:17.541
<v Arielle Houlihan>Stable stability.

00:23:20.111 --> 00:23:24.058
<v Matt Houlihan>We got some big matchups this week, though, that I'm very much looking forward to.

00:23:24.269 --> 00:23:25.635
<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm trying to go to a Long Beach game.

00:23:25.635 --> 00:23:29.601
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think that Long Beach is just so exciting.

00:23:30.612 --> 00:23:32.318
<v Matt Houlihan>I definitely want to go to a Long Beach game, no doubt.

00:23:32.318 --> 00:23:35.134
<v Matt Houlihan>I wonder when we go down there for the Equinox tournament.

00:23:35.134 --> 00:23:35.738
<v Matt Houlihan>I wonder if that's the same.

00:23:35.718 --> 00:23:36.119
<v Arielle Houlihan>You should look at that.

00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:36.642
<v Arielle Houlihan>You want to go to a Long Beach game, no doubt.

00:23:36.642 --> 00:23:37.425
<v Arielle Houlihan>I wonder when we go down there for the Equinox tournament.

00:23:37.405 --> 00:23:37.909
<v Matt Houlihan>Oh yeah, I wonder if that's the same.

00:23:37.909 --> 00:23:38.190
<v Matt Houlihan>You should look at that.

00:23:38.190 --> 00:23:39.496
<v Matt Houlihan>You want to do a slab shot again?

00:23:40.191 --> 00:23:41.012
<v Chad Gordon>No, I'll be in Poland.

00:23:41.133 --> 00:23:43.017
<v Matt Houlihan>Okay, fair enough yeah.

00:23:43.538 --> 00:23:43.959
<v Arielle Houlihan>We can go?

00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:46.042
<v Chad Gordon>Yes, we can, or you guys can come to Poland.

00:23:46.483 --> 00:23:52.006
<v Arielle Houlihan>Nah, I'd also like to do that go to that Equinox tournament.

00:23:52.226 --> 00:23:52.807
<v Chad Gordon>I can take a hint.

00:23:54.707 --> 00:24:04.436
<v Matt Houlihan>The matchup of the week for me is none other than the UC Irvine Anteaters playing the BYU Storm and Mormons.

00:24:04.436 --> 00:24:10.429
<v Matt Houlihan>It's at Irvine and I think it's going to be a show BYU's kind of running the gauntlet the next two weeks.

00:24:10.429 --> 00:24:16.454
<v Matt Houlihan>They got Irvine and then Charlie Wade and the Rainbow Warriors are coming to town to play BYU at.

00:24:16.496 --> 00:24:18.932
<v Matt Houlihan>BYU in two weeks, which you know.

00:24:18.932 --> 00:24:22.940
<v Matt Houlihan>Your boy Keone's head circled on the calendar for the moment.

00:24:22.940 --> 00:24:25.064
<v Matt Houlihan>He entered the transfer portal and decided on BYU.

00:24:25.064 --> 00:24:28.779
<v Matt Houlihan>So some big, big time matchups for them.

00:24:28.779 --> 00:24:33.201
<v Matt Houlihan>And then the other matchup, and I'll let you guys layer on your thoughts.

00:24:33.201 --> 00:24:38.251
<v Matt Houlihan>Here we got USC number six gonna have their first real test.

00:24:38.251 --> 00:24:45.565
<v Matt Houlihan>Take it on my boys c sun at number 15 at the matadome for the first one.

00:24:45.565 --> 00:24:46.532
<v Matt Houlihan>Oh they're getting smoked?

00:24:47.034 --> 00:24:51.954
<v Chad Gordon>you think so, s he's getting smoked, you think s he's gonna smoke is happening I'm I'm not gonna lie.

00:24:52.896 --> 00:24:53.377
<v Matt Houlihan>It's hard.

00:24:53.377 --> 00:24:56.503
<v Matt Houlihan>It's hard to root against CSUN at the Matadome.

00:24:56.503 --> 00:24:59.612
<v Matt Houlihan>For me, I think that is a but.

00:24:59.612 --> 00:25:02.797
<v Matt Houlihan>This is the test, right, like is USC legit or can they handle?

00:25:03.659 --> 00:25:04.529
<v Arielle Houlihan>a team with that much firepower.

00:25:04.529 --> 00:25:06.028
<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't know if this says if USC is legit or not.

00:25:06.130 --> 00:25:11.916
<v Chad Gordon>Yes, this is the only match that will matter this will determine everything I don't think that this is the.

00:25:12.070 --> 00:25:12.573
<v Arielle Houlihan>This is definitely a.

00:25:12.573 --> 00:25:13.356
<v Arielle Houlihan>If they don't win, they.

00:25:13.356 --> 00:25:13.659
<v Arielle Houlihan>This is the.

00:25:13.659 --> 00:25:15.046
<v Arielle Houlihan>This is definitely a.

00:25:15.046 --> 00:25:19.974
<v Arielle Houlihan>If they don't win, they're not but like if they win.

00:25:20.791 --> 00:25:21.756
<v Chad Gordon>Oh, not conclusive.

00:25:22.029 --> 00:25:23.275
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, not conclusive.

00:25:23.315 --> 00:25:23.837
<v Matt Houlihan>No for sure.

00:25:23.837 --> 00:25:28.701
<v Matt Houlihan>But I would say USC for the past couple of years has been Underwhelming.

00:25:28.701 --> 00:25:31.057
<v Matt Houlihan>They've been up and down Like they can beat Sure.

00:25:31.410 --> 00:25:32.952
<v Arielle Houlihan>They beat Irvine last year Totally.

00:25:33.373 --> 00:25:35.957
<v Matt Houlihan>But they you, but they take your pick of who they lose to.

00:25:35.957 --> 00:25:37.961
<v Matt Houlihan>They're just an up-and-down team.

00:25:37.961 --> 00:25:46.554
<v Matt Houlihan>To be at number six, to be in that top grouping, they're going to need to be at a really high consistent level, even if they lose to a CSUN at home.

00:25:46.554 --> 00:25:48.115
<v Matt Houlihan>I think CSUN's under-seeded.

00:25:48.115 --> 00:25:56.164
<v Matt Houlihan>If they go toe-to-toe with CSUN at the Matadome and then get a win at home, okay, that's a legitimate team for sure.

00:25:56.164 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Matt Houlihan>But CSUN's going to be a major test because they're veterans, they game, they will talk a bunch of shit and they will back it up, so will SC.

00:26:07.161 --> 00:26:07.561
<v Matt Houlihan>Exactly.

00:26:07.561 --> 00:26:14.817
<v Matt Houlihan>But will they back it up is still the TBD question mark, because they can do it, but they can also flounder in it as well.

00:26:14.817 --> 00:26:15.660
<v Matt Houlihan>So it's a good test.

00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:23.643
<v Matt Houlihan>I think that'll be a really good early season matchup for two programs that I think could make some waves this year.

00:26:23.643 --> 00:26:33.898
<v Matt Houlihan>Usc, to kind of meet the expectations and for CSUN to showcase were the real deal and I think they are a like we kind of talked about.

00:26:33.898 --> 00:26:38.897
<v Matt Houlihan>One of the first episodes was just that of the juggernaut slayers.

00:26:38.897 --> 00:26:47.363
<v Matt Houlihan>I think csun's one of them, because they can get hot enough, they can play at a level uh, just emotionally, that will take them really far.

00:26:47.363 --> 00:26:52.320
<v Matt Houlihan>But it's kind of like driving your car on nos right, like to quote dan or asai.

00:26:52.320 --> 00:26:59.314
<v Matt Houlihan>You can, you can definitely hit the nos and and hit that turbo speed, but if you run on NOS the entire time, your car's going to fall apart.

00:26:59.314 --> 00:27:01.636
<v Matt Houlihan>That's what kind of CSUN has reminded me of as well.

00:27:01.636 --> 00:27:05.115
<v Matt Houlihan>I'm interested to see what they can bring out of this.

00:27:05.617 --> 00:27:06.159
<v Arielle Houlihan>We get it.

00:27:06.159 --> 00:27:07.454
<v Arielle Houlihan>You love CSUN.

00:27:07.454 --> 00:27:08.569
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, this is clear.

00:27:08.810 --> 00:27:09.332
<v Matt Houlihan>This is clear.

00:27:09.332 --> 00:27:11.075
<v Matt Houlihan>We saw my boy, neil, this weekend too.

00:27:11.075 --> 00:27:13.619
<v Matt Houlihan>Neil Finnegan shout out that's my guy.

00:27:13.619 --> 00:27:16.304
<v Matt Houlihan>You guys have any thoughts on those top matchups?

00:27:16.304 --> 00:27:17.715
<v Matt Houlihan>Anything that you're looking forward to seeing in these?

00:27:19.553 --> 00:27:20.415
<v Chad Gordon>I like the Irvine matchup.

00:27:20.415 --> 00:27:30.893
<v Chad Gordon>I think that'll be a good just another good indicator, right of like hey, these guys were serious last year, they're serious again this year, and then we'll see how that weekend goes.

00:27:31.815 --> 00:27:35.241
<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm interested to see if Pepperdine can do anything against Long Beach.

00:27:35.462 --> 00:27:35.643
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah.

00:27:38.970 --> 00:27:43.098
<v Arielle Houlihan>I think Pepperdine is an interesting one that hasn't been showcased at all.

00:27:43.098 --> 00:27:48.896
<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't think that they're at elite level.

00:27:48.936 --> 00:27:49.598
<v Matt Houlihan>Not juggernauts.

00:27:49.990 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Arielle Houlihan>But I don't know if they can get one off somebody.

00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.519
<v Arielle Houlihan>I need to see more Pepperdine.

00:27:55.519 --> 00:28:02.396
<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm interested to see if it's just a 3-0 clap or if it's actually something.

00:28:02.396 --> 00:28:02.959
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

00:28:04.932 --> 00:28:06.135
<v Matt Houlihan>What's the level of resistance?

00:28:06.135 --> 00:28:07.820
<v Matt Houlihan>What can they do?

00:28:07.820 --> 00:28:10.316
<v Matt Houlihan>Also I mean for Long Beach too.

00:28:10.316 --> 00:28:19.471
<v Matt Houlihan>Yes, they obviously have some very juggernaut tendencies's they've got some yeah I want to see what they're.

00:28:19.471 --> 00:28:22.436
<v Matt Houlihan>They took lewis, took a game off of them at at lewis.

00:28:22.436 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Matt Houlihan>What does?

00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.372
<v Matt Houlihan>What does their consistency look like?

00:28:26.372 --> 00:28:27.233
<v Matt Houlihan>Are they, are they?

00:28:27.233 --> 00:28:30.060
<v Matt Houlihan>I don't think any team is unbeatable at any point.

00:28:30.060 --> 00:28:35.883
<v Matt Houlihan>Like nikilov obviously is a beast from watching that Lewis game against Long Beach State.

00:28:35.883 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Matt Houlihan>He kind of willed them to the finish line.

00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:39.421
<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah.

00:28:39.670 --> 00:28:42.532
<v Matt Houlihan>But I think there's someone out there that's going to take him down this year and it's, it's.

00:28:42.532 --> 00:28:44.539
<v Matt Houlihan>Let's not be surprised when it does happen.

00:28:45.131 --> 00:28:49.241
<v Chad Gordon>I think it's also an interesting one because you know, teams kind of fall in these different categories.

00:28:49.241 --> 00:28:57.883
<v Chad Gordon>Right, you have like a Stanford who's very young, right, and these guys are like hey, we're putting our stamp out here and like let's go you know, show these guys what we can do and, you know, get some nice wins over.

00:28:58.202 --> 00:28:59.183
<v Chad Gordon>It seems like ohio state.

00:28:59.183 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Chad Gordon>You have some squads that are maybe more like irvine, where it's actually a lot of the same characters from last year, right, and they keep a lot of their pins and all that.

00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:07.941
<v Chad Gordon>So it's.

00:29:07.941 --> 00:29:11.355
<v Chad Gordon>You knew that they were good and could they get over the hump last year.

00:29:11.355 --> 00:29:14.461
<v Chad Gordon>Okay, no, they push again, you know, in year two.

00:29:14.461 --> 00:29:17.775
<v Chad Gordon>And then you have some uclas, some byus, some.

00:29:17.775 --> 00:29:20.961
<v Chad Gordon>I guess long beach is probably a pretty good example of they.

00:29:20.961 --> 00:29:26.333
<v Chad Gordon>Obviously they retain a lot of talent, but even long beach right, like they've lost a lot of really good players too, yeah.

00:29:26.333 --> 00:29:33.276
<v Chad Gordon>And so, yeah, you may have a talented setter, but like these guys are also still finding their footing against really strong teams and you know.

00:29:33.316 --> 00:29:33.436
<v Chad Gordon>So.

00:29:33.436 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Chad Gordon>Like the same way we see or saw UCLA kind of flounder this past weekend, it's really like can these guys, can these staffs, find their footing and get the ship going in a good direction with what is, admittedly, a lot of changes?

00:29:47.580 --> 00:29:49.084
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, 100%, we'll see.

00:29:49.084 --> 00:29:51.557
<v Matt Houlihan>I think USC falls in that kind of category as well.

00:29:51.557 --> 00:30:02.019
<v Matt Houlihan>You've got those groups that you're melding a lot of new pieces together, or melding different pieces together, and you're trying to find all that balance as you're working through the course of a season.

00:30:02.019 --> 00:30:04.618
<v Matt Houlihan>That's where the Penn States of the world have a great advantage.

00:30:04.618 --> 00:30:11.756
<v Matt Houlihan>You just got to get through your tournament, but for the Big West and the MPSF it is very much a.

00:30:11.756 --> 00:30:13.857
<v Matt Houlihan>You got to perform right now.

00:30:13.857 --> 00:30:21.152
<v Matt Houlihan>You got to win these out of conference matches because you can't risk losing the tournament at the end of the year and not getting that at large.

00:30:21.172 --> 00:30:21.933
<v Matt Houlihan>There's just not enough.

00:30:21.933 --> 00:30:32.828
<v Matt Houlihan>There's not enough leash for you to uh, to flounder and that's why we bet the house on the matadors yes, I'm on the train bring it all.

00:30:32.828 --> 00:30:34.132
<v Matt Houlihan>I'm telling you, we need to make a trip.

00:30:34.132 --> 00:30:54.378
<v Matt Houlihan>We got to make a trip to the matadome we were not that far away you could yesterday yes, but I had a job to do yesterday I want a full like you want the full, full experience I want to go and I want alex jones to take me to yeah, to the local watering hole with Faulkner.

00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:55.442
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, what am I talking about?

00:30:55.442 --> 00:30:58.470
<v Chad Gordon>Obviously, I need Faulkner there 100%.

00:30:58.631 --> 00:30:59.836
<v Matt Houlihan>I want to sit in the stands.

00:30:59.836 --> 00:31:00.653
<v Matt Houlihan>Kyle Stevenson.

00:31:02.830 --> 00:31:03.413
<v Chad Gordon>You're invited.

00:31:03.593 --> 00:31:04.395
<v Matt Houlihan>I would like Kyle to come.

00:31:04.395 --> 00:31:07.084
<v Matt Houlihan>Who else could we name Travis Magorian?

00:31:07.084 --> 00:31:07.549
<v Matt Houlihan>There you go.

00:31:07.549 --> 00:31:08.257
<v Matt Houlihan>Can I get some other?

00:31:08.257 --> 00:31:15.846
<v Matt Houlihan>What other CSUN legends can we pull out of the woodwork here that really tall Polish middle blocker that had a wicked float serve.

00:31:15.846 --> 00:31:19.559
<v Matt Houlihan>Whatever his name was, I want that guy too, yeah.

00:31:20.270 --> 00:31:21.583
<v Arielle Houlihan>They had some big dudes.

00:31:21.583 --> 00:31:25.433
<v Arielle Houlihan>Other national championships this week yeah, UDIA national championships happened.

00:31:25.534 --> 00:31:25.875
<v Chad Gordon>I'm sorry.

00:31:25.875 --> 00:31:27.932
<v Chad Gordon>What is that that's?

00:31:27.971 --> 00:31:28.513
<v Matt Houlihan>a fake name.

00:31:29.076 --> 00:31:29.798
<v Arielle Houlihan>Guys.

00:31:29.798 --> 00:31:35.894
<v Arielle Houlihan>College football national championship happened, if you know anything about the most important sporting event that happened this weekend.

00:31:35.894 --> 00:31:36.405
<v Arielle Houlihan>It was not the college football national championship.

00:31:36.405 --> 00:31:37.060
<v Arielle Houlihan>You know anything about the most important sporting event that happened this weekend?

00:31:37.060 --> 00:31:42.380
<v Arielle Houlihan>It was not the college football national championships, it was the dance national championships in Orlando.

00:31:43.651 --> 00:31:48.153
<v Matt Houlihan>And just like we go to Orlando, is this the one where they jump in the ocean?

00:31:48.153 --> 00:31:49.576
<v Matt Houlihan>No, that's a different one.

00:31:49.596 --> 00:31:50.337
<v Arielle Houlihan>That's the, the Juco.

00:31:50.337 --> 00:31:50.778
<v Arielle Houlihan>Actually, I don't know.

00:31:50.778 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Arielle Houlihan>Are there beaches?

00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:51.701
<v Arielle Houlihan>There's not beaches in.

00:31:51.840 --> 00:31:52.482
<v Matt Houlihan>Orlando?

00:31:52.482 --> 00:31:53.825
<v Matt Houlihan>No, not historically the Juco one, actually, I don't know.

00:31:53.825 --> 00:31:54.906
<v Matt Houlihan>There's not beaches in Orlando.

00:31:55.969 --> 00:31:56.170
<v Arielle Houlihan>No.

00:31:57.332 --> 00:31:58.096
<v Chad Gordon>Not historically.

00:31:58.096 --> 00:31:59.232
<v Chad Gordon>There are alligators, though.

00:31:59.232 --> 00:32:01.259
<v Chad Gordon>Look out, there are swamps everywhere.

00:32:01.470 --> 00:32:02.916
<v Arielle Houlihan>What beach do they go to?

00:32:02.916 --> 00:32:08.457
<v Arielle Houlihan>I feel like they go to Orlando, palm Beach or something it's Wide World of Sports, and then they run into the ocean after.

00:32:08.457 --> 00:32:13.012
<v Arielle Houlihan>But what ocean Is it like a fake ocean.

00:32:13.734 --> 00:32:14.957
<v Chad Gordon>Call in if you know.

00:32:15.076 --> 00:32:16.500
<v Arielle Houlihan>Wait, I'm super confused about that.

00:32:16.500 --> 00:32:20.511
<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm going to look that up after this Well dance.

00:32:20.511 --> 00:32:27.509
<v Arielle Houlihan>National championships happened and UNLV won hip-hop and Ohio State won jazz.

00:32:27.509 --> 00:32:29.549
<v Arielle Houlihan>And the Ohio State jazz one was amazing.

00:32:29.549 --> 00:32:34.060
<v Arielle Houlihan>I know nobody gives an actual flying F about any of this, but I do.

00:32:34.261 --> 00:32:34.782
<v Matt Houlihan>No, I'm intrigued.

00:32:34.782 --> 00:32:37.074
<v Matt Houlihan>Is there NIL for college dance?

00:32:37.074 --> 00:32:40.136
<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, are they paying for top talent?

00:32:40.156 --> 00:32:40.898
<v Arielle Houlihan>100%.

00:32:42.515 --> 00:32:43.457
<v Matt Houlihan>You said that very confidently.

00:32:43.498 --> 00:32:44.339
<v Arielle Houlihan>How much is the top?

00:32:44.339 --> 00:32:51.962
<v Arielle Houlihan>These girls are more influencer than anybody in volleyball 100%.

00:32:51.962 --> 00:32:56.056
<v Arielle Houlihan>Great Now my whole for you page right now is all dance right now and that's actually exactly where I.

00:32:56.056 --> 00:33:00.759
<v Arielle Houlihan>My whole for you page right now is all dance right now and that's actually exactly where I want my for you page to be.

00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.964
<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't want it to change at all that's funny.

00:33:03.005 --> 00:33:06.718
<v Matt Houlihan>My whole for you page is alligators and orcas.

00:33:07.521 --> 00:33:18.265
<v Arielle Houlihan>So, the usual, I can't stop watching alligators and orcas which makes sense, because Florida watching alligators and orcas, which makes sense because florida same thing I think of for you page like what's actually going on inside people's brains and so like.

00:33:18.265 --> 00:33:21.653
<v Arielle Houlihan>In my brain is like national championship dance competitions.

00:33:21.653 --> 00:33:31.253
<v Arielle Houlihan>In your brain is just alligators and orcas yeah, throwing some like bodybuilding I don't have tiktok okay, but like what's in your brain of like what do you get fed instagram?

00:33:31.253 --> 00:33:33.259
<v Arielle Houlihan>Instagram reels oh it's.

00:33:33.339 --> 00:33:35.664
<v Chad Gordon>I mean it's like Nakoba and Nakoba adjacent stuff.

00:33:35.684 --> 00:33:36.627
<v Arielle Houlihan>So you're just volleyball.

00:33:36.667 --> 00:33:37.490
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, it's a lot.

00:33:37.490 --> 00:33:39.878
<v Chad Gordon>Someone was asking like, hey, how's life going?

00:33:39.878 --> 00:33:47.596
<v Chad Gordon>And I was like, well, I'm coaching, we're doing this AI business in volleyball, all volleyball we have a podcast that I drive down to Morgan Hill for once a week.

00:33:47.897 --> 00:33:49.362
<v Matt Houlihan>It's about volleyball, To talk about mostly volleyball.

00:33:49.362 --> 00:34:00.026
<v Matt Houlihan>My girlfriend also coaches volleyball and then some afternoons I go play some beach volleyball.

00:34:00.026 --> 00:34:00.750
<v Matt Houlihan>Can I eat volleyball for dinner?

00:34:01.390 --> 00:34:02.997
<v Chad Gordon>DoorDash founder volleyball guy.

00:34:02.997 --> 00:34:04.394
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, there you go.

00:34:05.190 --> 00:34:07.459
<v Matt Houlihan>We can get you some volleyball-shaped dino nuggets.

00:34:07.459 --> 00:34:09.255
<v Matt Houlihan>Honestly, yeah.

00:34:10.532 --> 00:34:13.860
<v Arielle Houlihan>If you could be separated from volleyball, what would you like?

00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:15.163
<v Arielle Houlihan>Do you have any hobbies?

00:34:20.409 --> 00:34:21.737
<v Chad Gordon>Honestly, I swear I used to and now I don't to, and now I don't know.

00:34:21.737 --> 00:34:22.079
<v Chad Gordon>Now I don't know.

00:34:22.099 --> 00:34:24.974
<v Arielle Houlihan>I don't know because even like the analytic stuff and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna post some stuff yeah, well, now it's volleyball.

00:34:24.994 --> 00:34:27.025
<v Chad Gordon>Yeah, because like quit the real job.

00:34:27.025 --> 00:34:36.592
<v Chad Gordon>That was, like you know, business, intelligence stuff yeah yeah, don't do that anymore, don't go to like those conferences which is fine we all need to pick up he's niching down over there, chad's just niching down.

00:34:36.612 --> 00:34:36.775
<v Matt Houlihan>What if?

00:34:36.795 --> 00:34:40.034
<v Arielle Houlihan>we all pick up one hobby this year, that is non-volleyball.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I have one Orcas.

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<v Chad Gordon>CSUN.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm going to have the greatest compilation.

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<v Matt Houlihan>End of your video of me plugging CSUN in like 70 episodes.

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<v Chad Gordon>And us just cackling at it, they better not blow it.

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<v Chad Gordon>Do we pick a national champion?

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<v Chad Gordon>Oh, you guys want to do that now.

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<v Chad Gordon>We don't have to we could wait until later in the season.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Should we wait until after the national championship to pick our national?

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<v Chad Gordon>champion.

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<v Chad Gordon>I feel confident that I could do that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Let's do an early season one, we'll do a mid-season form, we'll see where people are at.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Okay.

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<v Chad Gordon>So we are two weeks into the season.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, we're coming up on week three here.

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<v Chad Gordon>I'll go first.

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<v Chad Gordon>I think it's Niff, I think it's Irvine.

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<v Chad Gordon>I think, based on what I saw with UCLA a lot of unanswered questions have the roster to do it.

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<v Chad Gordon>It's a tough problem to solve.

00:35:36.342 --> 00:35:37.775
<v Chad Gordon>There's a lot of expectations.

00:35:37.775 --> 00:35:42.099
<v Chad Gordon>It's tough if you don't have a bunch of senior leadership or something like that.

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<v Chad Gordon>I think Irvine has the experience.

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<v Chad Gordon>I think they're overdue.

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<v Chad Gordon>I'm taking that.

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<v Chad Gordon>I like that.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I love that.

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<v Matt Houlihan>They were my Big West champion pick.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I'm going to go the opposite.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I got Irvine winning the Big West tournament and I got Long Beach winning the national championship for the early season.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Of what I've seen this far, I'll go with Long Beach but I do love the pick.

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<v Chad Gordon>Where does CSUN finish for you?

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Second.

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<v Matt Houlihan>CSUN making the tournament, csun on the Big West.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think I had them, I think.

00:36:13.074 --> 00:36:16.534
<v Chad Gordon>I put them third, so not making the.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Could make it Biggest snub.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>Yeah, he has CSUN as the biggest snub.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I probably got CSUN as the first one out.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, first one out, that's what I'd say.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But can you get three Big West teams in there?

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<v Matt Houlihan>I think it'd be tough.

00:36:30.657 --> 00:36:31.740
<v Chad Gordon>It's a tough snub, it would be tough.

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<v Matt Houlihan>CSUN would have to beat everybody.

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<v Matt Houlihan>But if ucla has has a couple more bad losses and they end up winning the tournament or stanford or whatever, whoever usc, whatever it may be like, I could see a big west getting three.

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<v Matt Houlihan>It's possible, because big west I don't know.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Yeah, I, I agree it's probably tough, but yeah, I got, I got c sun as my three in the big west.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I got them.

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<v Matt Houlihan>I got them taking down Hawaii.

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<v Chad Gordon>Ooh, interesting.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Hawaii's got to go to the Matadome this year, yeah, so that's why I go there.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I'm going to pick.

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<v Arielle Houlihan>I want to pick something that you guys don't pick, but I'm going to pick Long Beach still, because.

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<v Matt Houlihan>We can all do a dark horse pick too, Loyola.

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<v Matt Houlihan>Stanford, yeah, homer pick, love that.