2024-12-5 - KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: Offway, Welcome everyone. We is Kentucky Sports Radio. Thursday December the uh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it Yeah Thursday here live.

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Speaker 2: In Vail, Colorado. You can give a shout on the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line A five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. The a Vision Auto Glass text machine is seven seven two four five two five four in this distion sponsored by the TJ. Smith Loubis. If you call TJ, He'll make them pay. I have a struggling group of people sitting in this.

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Speaker 3: House right well, some of us, not all of us, some of us are not.

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Speaker 2: Maybe people could guess I struggling, Well, great, I would start with you who ended up who ended up walking in the door and falling asleep two and a half feet from the door's entrance. So I'm going to start with you as as number one.

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Speaker 4: Well, whoever the sponsor is for this show, we need to get a new sponsor for whoever locks the door like the locks on the door, because that didn't work last night. Me and Drew almost died of hypathemia. We did, we did, We tried it forty seven times.

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Speaker 3: I tried to cut a moose open and get inside the stay warm. I was so cold.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'll give the basics of what happened by night, because this is that this is a group Ryan, that is I think two fifths of our group forty you know, at least on air. Mario's fine, So two six thirty three percent of our group is struggling.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I'm one hundred percent. I don't even want to speak for me. I'm great. Yeah, you were.

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Speaker 2: Kind of when you walked in and nearly knocked those paintings off the window.

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Speaker 3: You not do bad. I did not do the wall. I thought they were supposed to be like the paintings.

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Speaker 2: Walking upstairs, I got up this morning, all facing in different directions.

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Speaker 3: That's how cold we were. He was just redecorating last night. Crazy thing is I get up to pee at two o'clock in the morning and Drew is still awake. Well, don't sleep.

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Speaker 5: When I peeked in there, Drew had all the lights on and it was sleeping in full clothes.

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Speaker 2: Because that's how people normally go to sleep. They keep all the lights in the second night.

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Speaker 3: So I just had the night to a bunk bed.

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Speaker 2: I had to just do what I could do so thet be just set up.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: We are in veiled Colorado, which right, would you say is a nice place?

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is one of the most beautiful places in the United States.

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Speaker 5: They've got about twenty two inches of snow right now on the ground too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't snow while we were here. Man, there's snow everywhere. So they are literally icicles hanging from the uh from the Airbnb. We're in a beautiful place. Would you agree with this Airbnb? It's a really it's super nice.

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Speaker 3: This is picturesque.

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Speaker 5: It's seriously, it is picture But those icicles, if they fell on you, they would impel you.

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Speaker 3: You don't walk underneath them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's snow on the mountains around like you couldn't ask.

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Speaker 3: For a more picturesque setting.

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Speaker 2: We walked around the excuse me last night, the Veil Village, which is a very nice like area of Veil. This is this is kind of when you say, Drew, where the elite live, Like, it's very much a it's very much a one percenter's place.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we were definitely the six porest people walking around last night in those shops. Uh, I mean everything's like a high end restaurant, a high end store. I guess we got lucky and found some Mexican food. But you gotta have a little money to hang out in Veil, I'd say.

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Speaker 2: I think so. And we we actually knew some people here. You we had Tim and Taylor, the country group that that we've met, we've met many times on the road, Kentucky fans. They actually just walked in here to ensure that we have attendance. Guy from a high school lives here, he works here. Uh, you know, and you Drew new a person. So we we knew some random people here, right, So we go we go out, we walk around, Drew and I by a cowboy hat. We'll talk about that later.

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Speaker 3: A couple of sheriffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Drew and I, you know, we're cowboys now. But by the end of the night, you know this is this is Mountain time run and our bodies at least I don't know about mine, still has it totally adjusted, right, because it's eight am here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've tried to watch the end of the Duke Alburn game last night. I could barely stay awake and it's only ten thirty out here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what know when the game is over. It was nine thirty, it was nine. It's nine to thirty when the game's over. But we're still adjusting. So anyway, we go out, we eat, We watched Tim and Taylor play. We decide to come home and for us the local time it's eight fifteen, right, not that late, but we're like, let's go home. We'll leave aside that Drew instead of allowing us to park in a free parking lot, UH picked the parking garage that was seventy five dollars for twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: That's I was nice to put that credit card up.

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Speaker 5: They're proud parking around here, right, They've got to get back gotta help cut the economy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do these people, I do think are struggling, so nice to pull the credit card out and say thank you for parking for seventy five dollars. But we came back, but Max and Drew decided they wanted to stay. Stay back now at I heard some rustling at twelve thirty Mountain time, which would be two thirty body time, Lil and uh Ryan, Explain what you saw when you walk down here to let them in. I'd given them a code that allowed them to get in the house. Interesting enough, they were not able to operate the code.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a fake cut. It was fake.

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Speaker 2: It was four numbers got us in. Interesting just a few hours earlier, and explain what you saw.

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Speaker 3: My phone started buzzy.

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Speaker 6: I look over and itt midnight and it says Max Duffy, I meanly thinking, oh, no, they're in trouble. They're going ahead. They need somebody to come pick them up. They're on the side of the road somewhere. They said, no, can you let us in? We're downstairs, Like go downstairs. But it's like kids at Christmas time. They could not wait to get inside. And then Matt immediately just fell on the couch and went to sleep.

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Speaker 5: So I having this call from Max at twelve thirty nine, which would be two thirty nine back home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So these guys are all and literally.

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Speaker 2: Fell asleep steps from where you walked fully closed.

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Speaker 4: It's probably the coldest I've ever been in my life. I mean, we would try. We were going to do doomsday scenarios, like.

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Speaker 2: She didn't have access to the car keys, You didn't have access to the house because you couldn't operate the code.

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Speaker 3: What was she to operate the code? It just wasn't opening the door.

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Speaker 2: What was your plan if you couldn't wake any of us up?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna kill Drew and I was gonna kill Moose. He was gonna kill me.

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Speaker 5: Is there no doorbell? I mean you couldn't bang on the back defense.

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Speaker 3: He put in the code a thousand times and we could hear the lock move, but it would I think maybe something was dead bolted on the inside. He was doing these same four digits you all sent over and over and over.

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Speaker 2: So what was your plan, Because like, there was a decent chance you we were all asleep, there was a decent chance you weren't.

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Speaker 4: Gonna be able to wake any of the same time, kidding I was gonna grab an icycle, stab Drew through the throat and sleep insident to stayble.

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Speaker 3: So okay, Tim and Taylor say they were going to rescue you.

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Speaker 2: Well that well, maybe maybe they should have, because you walked in here Drew not three paintings crooked off the wall.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's a slight exaggeration. Okay, Am I wrong? Shannon? Uh the wall, well not off the wall was crooked and uh another one another one? So maybe two? Yeah, maybe too? All right.

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Speaker 6: I walked behind you going up the stairs because I was afraid you're gonna fall backwards down.

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Speaker 3: Those are steep stuffs and I can feel.

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Speaker 2: Let me say, Ryan walks you up the stairs the way I walk, Larry.

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Speaker 3: I'm a cowboy. Now, I don't listen to nobody. I'm a cowboy. Tried to fight Ryan on the way in. It was so it was a lot. But we're here now.

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Speaker 2: But I will say this, and you heard me Ryan say this in the car to Mario. Mario was asking about how late. Mario asked me something like how late, Well, Drew, Uh and Max stay out and will they be at the show tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Mario asked me that, and I said to Mario, can't speak for Max. Havn't done as many trips with Max. Drew will wake up at the bell, Answer the bill, answer the bell, I've said, and this is true. I've traveled with Drew. How many how many day overnights do you think you and I have traveled together?

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Speaker 3: Too many?

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Speaker 2: A year's worth, maybe maybe eight months worth. I mean we've we've We've gone fourteen day trips for Fox, fourteen dra trips for CBS twice, fourteen day trips at the US Open. We've done baseball trips, We've done all of these trips. We've gone to New So we've probably spent literally six to eight months on the road together. Only once has Drew not answered the bell.

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Speaker 3: That was it, and he tried to blame it on me for not waking them up, And that was in the behind.

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Speaker 2: He finds a way to get up, and he's there the next day, and he's here this morning. You feel great, So I give him a lot of credit. He is not as wild as he once was, but he's a pretty wild dude. And Ryan, he always answers the best.

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Speaker 6: Every single time, no matter what time they get on and like I said, little he was still up at four in the morning our time back home two in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Here, I'm like, what are you still doing well? If you've all been out? Max signed someone's forehead, Like, how can you leave a bar when someone asked for Max autographing? He signs on the forehead. There was the Austrian ski team. Uh, those guys were out having fun. How the Austrian ski team. We consider ourselves, the six of us on the road pretty handsome, gross of course, yeah, not radio. We're not in the Austrian Ski teams world. And the Austrian at that bar until they walked in and I immediately became a two.

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Speaker 2: The Austrian ski team is like that. You don't want you don't want to be competing with the Austrian ski team.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 4: The craziest stat though, is me and Drew weren't the drunkest person out of the six of us.

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Speaker 3: It was another human. Let's talk about Mario.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Maria knocked the pictures we've gone, would you say, Oh, I mean I've known Mario pretty well in the last few months. You guys, especially Hugh Shannon, this is your first time, kind of spend a lot of time with him. Mario's wonderful, right, great addition to the group. Everybody would everybody agree with that? Always always a positive mood, always smiling, always smiling, great edition of the group. Never in my existence have I seen a person get drunk quicker than Mario. If Mario gets drunk while I'm pumping gas at the gas station from the feud, it is zero.

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Speaker 3: To one hundred like that, like instant, there's nothing in the middle.

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Speaker 2: We laugh about to Momosa's Billy. To Mimosa's Billy would put Mario in the ground. Mario is within seconds. It's unbelievable. I've never seen anything.

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Speaker 3: Like it smells he's Margarita and he's already drunk. And I will say, then has such a blast. I don't know. Had you ever listened to country music for that extent in the period of time? No, no, you have.

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Speaker 2: He was vibe. I have a video of him. I put out a video of him dancing. Yes, that was the best video for there were worse videos.

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Speaker 4: Put it this way. He said, why is the menu in Spanish? And it was in English? What you think about that? We went to the Mexican restaurant. He said, why is the menu in Spanish? He was in English.

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Speaker 2: Then the waitress said, you have to turn it right side up, which means he asked the waitress do you have tacos? Because because Tomorrio it said so cat. He thought they had so cat, but not tacos because he had the menu upside down.

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Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. At one point he asked me if I want to do a shot, and I said, Mario, I love you. We're not doing another shot. But he loves the devil.

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Speaker 5: He loves the devil went down to Georgia because that was the song that Tim Taylor were playing where he was just going buck wild.

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Speaker 3: In that song he literally in back to back songs.

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Speaker 2: Max, back to back songs, looked at me and ghoes, first I love you, bro, you can't sing, and then the next song, dude, you got a good vote.

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Speaker 3: Well, those are back to back songs.

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Speaker 2: He had forgotten. In the five minutes before that, he had just said to me that I couldn't sing. Then he told me I could sing, and like in five minutes.

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Speaker 4: He was incredible. I want to be around him all the time. After a shot, he discussed the menu with the waitress for about fifty I.

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Speaker 2: Looked at him and I said, Ryan, you can't get this conversation if you have to order something like he was asking her where the greens came from in the tacos.

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Speaker 3: You told him you get one question.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you get one when you bring That's a good rule for people. When you bring a server over to order, you get one question.

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Speaker 3: Mario was interrogating her.

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Speaker 2: Mario was asking about the I was like, you get one question.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: You cannot have a ten minute conversation. But he's still a joy, Ryan, wouldn't you agree?

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Speaker 6: Oh, we love being around him. He's a joy to be around, a lot of fun. Just you know, we have a new leader in there getting quick drunk. He just pat shot and he's done. But the difference is he keeps it down. He doesn't throw up like Billy after Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Let's call, so did something? Oh? Yes, shot for half a shot? Mario?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well we are having a good time. I know there's a ton going on in the UK world, a ton in football. We will deal with it. We're also going to talk about Drew and I have transformed into cowboys since we're here and we figured out who we are on the Dutton Ranch and we have in the second hour away to get rid of the KSR curse. Yes, I'm so excited a lot that is happening here in Vail. Thanks to Tim and Taylor for coming out here to keep the streets alive. We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here in Vail. Minute.

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Speaker 2: Margarita Mario is taking videos and ready to go. Uh, it's uh, I'm excited. Everybody's a little tired.

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Speaker 3: That's okay.

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Speaker 2: Headed to Salt Lake City tonight. We are gonna do the show in Salt Lake City tomorrow, So watch as we come out today. We will put out sometime where we're gonna be in Salt Lake City. I just booked the hotel and we'll see what's around there and see if there's a way.

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Speaker 3: What day is it? Thursday? It right now, it's Thursday. It is Thursday. Is flying by?

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Speaker 2: It is flying by, So we'll be in We'll be in Boise tomorrow or tonight. U Salt Lake City tonight, Boise, Friday night, Seattle, Sara.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I had a dream that Boise lost, So we're all going on unl Bay. I had ton't dream that they lost by a million. Oh you mean we're gonna bet on univer I mean the witch told me.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: Let's get caught up there. Let's start. We do need to start with a little bit of news. I think the biggest story. There's a lot of stories from football signing day, uh, but the biggest story is day Key. You guys been listening to the show known about Dane for a long long time. He is going to transfer, he announced, Ryan. What are your thoughts? Uh?

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Speaker 3: You know, I got you guys know this. I love Dane. I consider him a huge part of my family. So I'm I'm team Dane. You know.

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Speaker 6: I love that he had three great years here, worked his butt off of this program, gave everything he had three years for this program. But if he wants to maybe have a chance to play for a playoff team or maybe even a championship, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: Man. So is that what you think is happening? You think he's going to go try to play for a national champion.

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Speaker 3: I think so, And I think there'll be some high level teams come after him. Yeah. So there was.

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Speaker 2: There are reports out there, and if you don't know the answer or feel free to say it, but there are reports out there that he was offered up to eight hundred thousand dollars to stay. What are your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't want to get into all that with because you know I'm team Dane. You know, I know I got a job here to do in the radio, but my loyalty is with my family.

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Speaker 3: Why are you sitting here with your back I don't know. Do you not want to look at me this? We can't look you in the eye right like you're.

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Speaker 2: Looking at a couch on the other side of the room, Like, why don't you just look at me when we talk. I mean, I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 3: Yell at you. I just was just want you to tell what you know or what you feel. Like you could say there are some feet like right here on this edge of me, and I can't sweat around. Okay, sorry, I put my feet away from you my thoughts, but you know I want to be I want to be.

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Speaker 6: I'm kind of fuck I'm tucking stuck in the middle here with my job here on the radio show and my loyalty.

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Speaker 2: To But would you would you agree? Let me ask you to put a different way. Do you think he's leaving because he's unhappy or he's leaving because he wants to go get a chance at a title somewhere?

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Speaker 3: I think both.

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Speaker 6: I think there was a little unhappiness this year the way the season went and the way the offense went, and they're lack of production in the passing game. I think that definitely probably played into it a little bit. But I think more more than anything, he wants a chance to win a title, will win some championships.

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Speaker 2: There are some reports out there that people think he's going to go to Georgia. You think that's plausible his girlfriend goes there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad. I didn't want to say that, but yes, well.

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Speaker 2: That's not keeping up with the girlfriend thing. That's just that's out there. So that's why I'm saying that.

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Speaker 6: She's from Bourbon County. She plays softball on the Georgia softball team, So you know, I'm sure that's gonna be in the mix. I don't think they have decided yet, but I think probably I would guess.

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Speaker 3: That would be in the mix. You always say it's a girl.

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Speaker 5: When somebody a player goes to a particular, undefeated, particular school, it's always the girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: So so so you would say, if you were in Vegas early bet Georgia.

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Speaker 6: Really, I was gonna maybe wait later this week, I'm going ahead and make this announcement that Dane and Josiah are going to the package Dealer in Kentucky, Wesleyan College.

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Speaker 3: If he goes to Georgia, he'll play, you know, against Kentucky next year. I mean, we've talked about this. It's no secret.

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Speaker 6: There are schools that came after Dane and Barryon and Dion last year. You know, they came after Chris Rodriguez Coupe. There's I mean, this goes on all the time where but they chose to come back and stay and play.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, he gave three great years here.

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Speaker 6: You know, six touchdowns the freshman, six touchdowns as a sophomore, two touchdowns this past year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the passing game just wasn't there this year.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean it's clear it clearly wasn't. Now, there were a couple other guys that got in the portal. Keyshan Silver is the big one. But even that you know there, I'm not sure, Uk. I think one in kishon Silver, But I also think that it's like a Justin Rodgers thing where they go, well, we lose him, but it's not that. But the Dane thing hurts. I mean, I think it's gonna be, at least so far, Max the biggest loss.

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Speaker 4: We've complemented stoops in the whole team for a long time about retention and being able to not lose any players. This is the first time where I mean we talked about it probably Saturday morning, about, uh, you know, Dane's going to the NFL, so that's fine, We're not losing him, We're losing him to the NFL. The fact that he's going to another team, I mean, that's the first time it's worrying of we're losing guys to other teams, I think for the first time ever in the months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think Dane is the first guy that they would really really really want to key that they're seeing go to another team. Andrew, I think that's tough and probably to another team they'll play.

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Speaker 3: It's tough, but I mean, how do they expect someone to come back to that offense? Like Dane should go, Macklin should go. I'm a fan. I want these guys to stay. But what Kin Kentucky put on the table to say, come be a part of this that anyone would want to see or join after this past year. So I mean, as much as I wanted a senior Dane and I want the offense to be good, I don't know how they have any receivers that are interested being on the team next year.

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Speaker 2: It was so bad this season. Well that was optimistic, but me think, think about mac Ian. I'm not saying you're wrong. So now Mark in his so Mark skipped his last radio show. Uh, I'm gonna I don't like that. I know this is everything I say will get sort of put to the to the staff, and I you know, I always think about that.

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Speaker 3: But Mark, you screwed that wing up.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, you know, I guess there could be some emergency or something, and you know, if that's the case, then obviously that's the case, and I'm wrong, but let's assume it's normal.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge screw up. Shannon.

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Speaker 2: You you gotta this is the last one of the year, it's signing days. You genuinely also have something to talk about skipping that is, you're better than that. If your stoops like you, you used to face this stuff head on. Sending an assistant to your final to your final one of the year is a lame, lame move. And and the problem is he knows that he knows that's a lame move, and he did it. Now again, maybe there's an emergency, and if there is, I will take it back. But let's assume there's not an emergence. See, that's a lame move to not go on signing day and sit and talk to the fans the last.

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Speaker 5: Time, especially yeah, being the last one of the year. It's only an hour. If you don't want to if you don't want to face the fans head on, you don't have to take phone calls, but at least do the show. Yeah, and it's Tom, Like Tom's not gonna yeah, he's gonna take care of you.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna take care of you. Like I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: I could be completely wrong, but does Vince not normally do that one because he's not like a main recruiting guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but then but but normally we have another game, so we're gonna hear more from Mark later on we don't have another game.

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Speaker 3: Mark's gotta be there.

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Speaker 2: I understand Vince may normally do it, but but look, speaking to the public, Vince has now done it twice on this show, in that radio show, Mark, you gotta do it now. He did do a press conference yesterday as part of the signing day, but that's still not the same.

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Speaker 3: You gotta talk directly to the fan.

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Speaker 5: Here was this quote, nobody panic, we're gonna have a better football team.

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Speaker 3: I heard it and I did it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't love even the way he said it. He was like laughing, like nobody paying it, We're gonna have it. He's not reading the room. He is not reading the room, the room. It was bad after the Louisville game, but my general thought, as always, it's really bad in the moment, but over time it gets better because people start to I think it's worse now than it was four days ago. I think they've I think he's mishandled the pr in the last four days. So while I don't know that he had universal support before, I think he's made it worse because he's not reading the room.

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Speaker 6: You got to read the room, right, Yeah, and you said it usually there's a ball game where we'll get talked to him to have his exit interview.

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Speaker 3: Then he needs to talk to the fact.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point he'll come on here, but he's he's not handled this well. He just hasn't no, and I don't know how you could say otherwise. We'll take a break.

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Speaker 3: Be right back.

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Speaker 2: It's ksorry, babe. What a back techy sports radio. We're gonna go the phones in a minute seven seven two seven seven four five two five four. What are your thoughts on Dane leaving? Can Mark turn the ship around? Let's do before we get into some goofiness later, Let's do one serious conversation here about You know, Mark gave his don't worry, Everything's gonna be okay, and then you could tell he was angry the wide receiver coach left. He made some kind of statement, like, you know, he said he's can stay two years. He didn't. You know, that's not good either. I don't know who that reflects poor on though. I mean he went to Nebraska, not exactly wide receiver you the last twenty five years. Dane is from Lexington. His dad played at Kentucky. His godfather is on the Kentucky Sports Radio Network. He is leaving. I don't know how that can be looked at as anything but negative about the program. I'm not saying about Dane himself, but about the program. So let's be real about this for a minute. This is gonna be the five of us in whatever form of sobriety three of.

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Speaker 6: You have.

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Speaker 2: The like, let's be real. Can they turn this around? Or is this next year a delay of the inevitable?

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Speaker 3: Gonna make you go first define turn this around?

00:24:24
Speaker 5: We're talking about get back to a Bowl game to where we were six seven wins or were we talking about eight to team?

00:24:29
Speaker 3: Do you think they can do something next year?

00:24:32
Speaker 2: The A gets the fan base at some level back on board, and B makes you believe going into the next year the program is.

00:24:40
Speaker 3: On the rise.

00:24:41
Speaker 5: Yes, I think they can. I think that the transfer portal. I think they're gonna hit that hard, as Vince Merrill said, they're gonna do the checks on these guys and make sure they have good character and bringing the right guys.

00:24:52
Speaker 3: And uh, I think that next year they're gonna they're how many wins do you think they will get next year?

00:24:57
Speaker 5: I think seven is realistic. Seven, So It depends on if you define that as turning this around.

00:25:04
Speaker 2: I would say if they got seven wins next year with that schedule, I would.

00:25:07
Speaker 3: Count at as turning Yeah, So I'll go yes, okay, Drew. I don't have much optimism in next year. This is a multi year rebuild. I think, even more so now that you've lost a couple of big high school recruits over the weekend. Now, Dane, I mean they really have to get about one of everything in the portal and then the schedule next year. You got arch Manning coming to Lexton, you got DJ Lagway with Florida, you got Nico with Tennessee. You're playing Georgia. Even if they do pretty well in this offseason getting pieces, that's a big task in itself, even if you already had a good roster. So I think this is a two or three year project. Whatever you think of Stoops, whoever is in the position, I think next year is kind of a part of a bigger rebuild. I don't. I just think with the schedule and where they are right now, it is nearly impossible to flip this thing around. Would lean towards no. I don't feel great at all, So no, no, Okay, all right, Max.

00:26:06
Speaker 4: To answer Shannon's question, I think if they make a Bowl game, that's a success. I think if they can turn this thing around and win six or seven games, that's a huge success for the all the setbacks.

00:26:15
Speaker 3: Losing Dame is massive.

00:26:16
Speaker 4: We've had two guys on this radio show recently that have paused and said yes, Ryan was clearly lying. So if the other guy was lying, that's a massive loss.

00:26:27
Speaker 3: Right. I'm trying not to Shay to just call Ryan a lie. I mean, he was clearly lying, and he's not denying it. He knew he was lying. So when you pause and say yes, it's probably not a good sign.

00:26:39
Speaker 2: I mean, we're watching line, so you're saying Ryan's pause and lie about Kiyas Ryan. Can you say you found out about Dane Win during the show yesterday.

00:26:49
Speaker 6: That's when Dantane I were texting each other. That's when I found out yesterday before you asked me those questions about that.

00:26:55
Speaker 2: So you did the pause lie, and Max is now projecting that on Vince.

00:27:01
Speaker 3: I think Max is accurate that I was lying, so.

00:27:06
Speaker 4: All right, to be serious, I really hope the other guy wasn't lying, because you lose him and then the other one that I'm really worried about is Brad Watt. I think he does a lot in that locker room keeping things together, and he's scheme everything is really really positive for the program.

00:27:20
Speaker 3: You can't lose those twos.

00:27:21
Speaker 4: So yes or no if we keep them, yes, if we don't keep them, not okay, but ultimately yes, because I think we keep them. I think we're going to go fifty percent for guys lying when they pull us and say.

00:27:34
Speaker 6: Yes, all right, right, I think they can turn it around. But your question is can they turn it around next year? And I'm gonna say no. I mean I still think, like Drew said, there's still a couple of years away, this is going to be a rebuilding team. I mean, Dan's not the only guy leaving. There's more coming.

00:27:48
Speaker 3: Just be ready. He's not the only one. Well we've talked about. I mean, I don't think.

00:27:52
Speaker 6: I don't know if Dion's coming back, Brion's coming back, mac One's coming back.

00:27:56
Speaker 3: I mean that's some big cogs stars on your team that are leaving.

00:28:00
Speaker 2: So we have two yes's and two no. Shannon and Max are yes, Ryan and Drew no. You know this is tough for me, but I gotta say no, because what is the thing that makes you think it's gonna happen. The biggest issue for me is do I think in theory Mark Stoops could turn it around over a period of time.

00:28:22
Speaker 7: Yeah?

00:28:22
Speaker 2: I do, But I don't know if this fan base, this fan base won't take another year like next year.

00:28:29
Speaker 3: Just remember, they just won't. I mean, they just won't.

00:28:31
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know football, I don't know basketball like a lot of people, but I do know people, and I do know this fan base, and I would argue there are very few people who touch more parts of this fan base than we do. And I'm not saying I know everyone. I don't, but I feel like I get a pretty good feel of the online fan base, social media fan base, the radio fan base, the in person fan base, from the restaurant, the season, Like, I don't know how many people get more of that than I do. And if they have a losing record last year, next year, he'll have no support, He'll he'll have no support. And I don't see how they have a winning record next year. I mean, practically speaking, let's give them the three wins. Where are three or four more wins coming? From You got Louisville on the road. Okay, your home games, the games you in theory need to steal are Texas, Florida, Tennessee.

00:29:32
Speaker 3: Miss and Old Miss on the road.

00:29:36
Speaker 2: You got Georgia, South Carolina, Vandy and Auburn.

00:29:41
Speaker 3: Where are the wins? And it's not the South Carolina they got to pick on for several years.

00:29:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those tea every single one of those teams has a chance to be as good or better, every single one of them except maybe Old Miss. Old Miss probably takes a small step back.

00:29:56
Speaker 3: But where are the wins?

00:29:59
Speaker 6: Like you said, to keep the base engage we talked about, they got to hit big in the transfer portal. They got to keep some of these young guys from leaving too. You know Willie Rodriguez, you know the running backs, the quarterbacks.

00:30:10
Speaker 3: They gotta keep these.

00:30:11
Speaker 2: And the thing about the portal trans The thing about the portal nil Era is this, you can get the positive momentum Shannon going yeah, Allah Indiana, SMU, pick your school, But they also can get the negative momentum going quick cause people aren't left in go Look at what happened to Mississippi State after Mike Leach passed away, you know, so it can go It can go quick up, it can also go quick down.

00:30:39
Speaker 3: So if I had to bet to.

00:30:42
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna turn it around in a year because they to me they only have a year, like they don't have two or three years.

00:30:49
Speaker 3: I think they have a year. And Shannon, I don't see it.

00:30:52
Speaker 5: It all depends on what they do in the portal that's gonna make or break the season. Right you say where the wins, I mean, I guess you you get your three to get your Let's say let's say you beat Vandy the next year, then who well, I mean this year you had four wins. You beat a really good Old Miss team. So let's say you get an upset, okay, first five and then well, I mean I look at the Georgia game, that very well could have been a win this year.

00:31:15
Speaker 3: Go beat george on the road.

00:31:17
Speaker 5: Maybe not Georgia, maybe not Georgia, but a team at home that's a ranked team that you play in the SEC. I'm saying it's possible you could get to six.

00:31:24
Speaker 2: We had the second hardest schedule in America by numbers last year, and I think it's harder next year.

00:31:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is harder next year.

00:31:33
Speaker 2: I think I would be shocked if we don't finish with the hardest schedule next year.

00:31:36
Speaker 3: That's what things Stoops is timing with the schedule that objectively, whatever you think of Stoops in Kentucky football, that is a brutal schedule the SEC gave them this year that they have to do twice compared to like what a Missouri got. The timing on that with him coaching for his job right now, that is a horrible path he is in front of him. So what what are we gonna say?

00:31:53
Speaker 6: Were this time next year and we're in Butte Montana and they didn't go to a bowl game again back to back years.

00:31:58
Speaker 3: They can't come back. He can't come back.

00:32:00
Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of people who don't wandn't come back now, And I get it, And I have to tell you, if you were only saying what's most likely to succeed, him not coming back would help us succeed more likely than him. Uh excuse me, him leaving than him coming back. But I'm okay with the idea of giving him another year. But then they can't do that again. They can't not make a bowl two years in a row on a coach that that far into his tenure. It's not like you can say, like Billy Napier when you struggled at Florida, you can say he's close.

00:32:32
Speaker 3: We're not close. We're going the other way. There's some teams that have done it.

00:32:37
Speaker 4: Minnesota, Illinois, like those kind of teams that was at the beginning, that was on the ride last year, and they've come back this year and won a bunch of games like they they've They've gone up and down and up and down with the same head coach. I'm not saying it's, you know, super likely, but there are teams that have done It's as if we're gonna be the only team.

00:32:53
Speaker 3: I mean, Beamer, I guess, but the look listen, I hope it works, dude. It's better.

00:32:59
Speaker 2: I don't to be broadcasting a terrible team, like I don't want to do that.

00:33:04
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

00:33:06
Speaker 2: I don't have I had no confidence if John cal Perry came back it was gonna be good.

00:33:11
Speaker 3: None. Maybe this is a little higher than none, but it's not high. Ryan. I'm just being honest.

00:33:20
Speaker 6: If we're all being real and honest, that they're looking at another four or five wins season next year more than likely with the way to schedun Shannon said, he's right, pull off an upset here or there. They get the right pieces that could it could still happen. But if we're thinking about right now.

00:33:34
Speaker 4: I'm not looking forward to the UK Georgian game and Ryan for the fiftieth time in a row takes dang key.

00:33:39
Speaker 3: Is he's player of the game.

00:33:41
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00:34:36
Speaker 3: And getting rid of the KSR cursed. It's Kentucky Sports Radio. You like killers huh Rick.

00:34:43
Speaker 2: Working back, It is Kentucky Sports Radio. There's a story here on if I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, on Awful Announcing ESPN. You know, on Christmas Day they do a scroll that lists all the employees that work at ESPN, and this year they've announced they're only gonna do it, uh for people who've worked at least twenty years.

00:35:04
Speaker 3: SPM, so I will not be Apparently.

00:35:08
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people very angry at ESPN because they always like that moment they take a picture, show it to their family or something like that, and they'll they're not gonna do it.

00:35:17
Speaker 3: I mean twenty years. It can't be that many people. Yeah, I wouldn't think you're not even gonna make the iHeart List. Yeah, I don't make any I get it. I've seen it on there before. I saw my name once and it was kind of nice. You're like, oh, there's your name. That's nice.

00:35:29
Speaker 2: There are two Matt Jones in the company, so I'm assume one of them was me. Maybe it was maybe it was too not including me.

00:35:36
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:35:37
Speaker 6: Is the list Chris Berman, Bob Lee, Linda Cone, lindic And they're not gonna be many.

00:35:42
Speaker 3: Not gonna be long.

00:35:43
Speaker 5: Could that scroll Bey hasn't he?

00:35:46
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I mean there's also people behind the scenes that have been there. Oh yeah, that guy Mikey c that's my radio producer. He's probably been there that long. But there are not many.

00:35:55
Speaker 3: Have they told you yet? If you're doing a college football bowl game.

00:35:58
Speaker 2: I haven't heard I'm supposed to here. Well, I hear after the bulls come out. Okay, So and uh, you know, I'm way down the list, so like they may.

00:36:06
Speaker 3: Can't wait to hear you play by play. Yeah, I'm really I'm really excited about it. You got it.

00:36:10
Speaker 2: I think what's more likely is they tell me, you know what we did. We didn't get to you this year. We'll get to you next year when you're hit. When you hit twenty years, one person writes, Matt Stoops can turn around, but it's not gonna be in one year. He's already been here ten years. And if it if you're only giving him one year, then he has no chance. You have to give him three to four years. This fan base is not gonna give him three to four years.

00:36:31
Speaker 3: They're just not.

00:36:32
Speaker 2: I know these people, they're not. And you can complain about it and say, well, it's a it's a culture of what have you done for me lately? Yep, that's the culture. That's what it is now. I was a big believer in like, like there were people who thought the last two years he wasn't good enough. I thought that was ridiculous. But this year was This year was a disaster. It's not just about being foign eight. It's about the fact that they were undisciplined, that there was you know, we lost guys that dudes like Dane Key are leaving Like the discipline was a massive issue.

00:37:06
Speaker 3: I mean it was a massive issue, Drew like you know, I mean when you got players going to the concession stand like that's a massive issue. It just is that. And we're in an era where fans have to have been asked to get more money than ever before. It's expensive as hell.

00:37:24
Speaker 7: To go to a game.

00:37:24
Speaker 3: Yes, we got the ponying up for an il and these fans this year Tailgated showed up for every game. Zero home wins. I mean, if you want the Murray's, sure you have those. But against power forward to teams that matter, you went over and going back to last year where you have one last year, I don't all the exact stat, but it's like one in twelve. Whatever it is. They you're not winning your home games. You're asking people to give you money, and when they're in front of you and making a day of it, you're just losing as a favorite to Van lost by four touchdowns to Louisville to finish the year.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: So like you can, you know, I'm fine with co which's going this is the SEC schedules of gatlet but Louisville didn't play in that and they whipped you on your home field.

00:38:05
Speaker 3: So the stat that's crazy is Vandy has won more games in Kroger Field than Kentucky against against against the SEC in the last three years. Who's up first? Rick? Nick is up first?

00:38:16
Speaker 2: Nick go ahead?

00:38:17
Speaker 3: And Nick.

00:38:19
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, Matt. One of the reasons why, one of the many reasons why y'all show is so successful and everybody listens to it is because you all are genuinely fan. You all have admitted that. Uh, that's why it's kind of like an open family. We're all fans and everything. A couple of years ago, whenever you all started to be a little critical of some things for cal, it kind of parked my ears up and I was thinking, why would why would they do this? I'm kind of confused. Well, well, we later learned you all knew some things behind the scenes that were going on that you couldn't talk about then that have now come out, and so you know some certain situations. The reason why I'm a no on turning this stuff around next year is because I mean, called kettle black y'all are being critical of Soups in the program right now? Is I think you all know there's more stuff going on than us fans know. And that's what makes me nervous that we're gonna fall back like ten years for what Stukes and Vince and everybody have fought for for so long and got us to a new tier. I'm really nervous that there's something going on that you all probably can't say. Ryan, maybe one also that is making you all be a little critical of our team right now.

00:39:23
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I appreciate you saying that, and I appreciate the calling. Look, you're I mean, I'm gonna be real, you're you're right. I mean, we can't say we we can't say half of at least of what we know generally speak and basketball. You know, there was a time it was even less than that, And then I just got to a point I was like, look, I mean, how much meaner can they be to me than they already are? So who cares football? I still have a good relationship with those guys, but they know it. Like I'm not saying stuff they don't know. They know more than I do.

00:39:57
Speaker 3: But it was a disaster in that building. This and Steupents has let that culture slip. He has and like, I think he's.

00:40:05
Speaker 2: A good guy. I think he can turn it around, but he let it slip. Now, the question is, can you catch a boulder rolling downhill? Can you catch it before it gets to the bottom. And I don't know if he's got the equipment to reach down there and get it.

00:40:20
Speaker 3: He's got a big chain rock, yeah, I mean, well the chain held it up for a long time, like in Pineville.

00:40:26
Speaker 2: I mean that chain has has kept but once it starts rolling, I'm not sure if Russell Thompson and the people in pineval can get it.

00:40:34
Speaker 3: You know, Scott Maiden, I don't know if he's gonna be able to grab it in time.

00:40:38
Speaker 6: I think we were all kind of had a similar feeling last year. But then they beat Louisville and they had they killed it in the transfer portal.

00:40:46
Speaker 2: It was it started to slip last year, and then you're right, they grabbed it about a quarter the way down.

00:40:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did.

00:40:53
Speaker 2: They grabbed they grabbed it. They had some people donate some money to go get some big players. They beat Louisville A and m thing didn't work out. They grabbed it and they pushed it back to the edge of the hill. Heel right back to the edge of the heat.

00:41:07
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

00:41:08
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden it is now slipped and it's it's it's it's really rolling, and they're trying.

00:41:14
Speaker 3: But this is different.

00:41:16
Speaker 2: And and you know, Max, we don't have to go into details, but I know you're disappointing. You were part of the best cultures at Kentucky I know it's frustrate.

00:41:24
Speaker 3: It is.

00:41:25
Speaker 4: I mean, we've hopped on it many times. To see someone in a concession stand jury a game is from a post player. It's like, dude, what are you doing? And and and just to say little things like that. Sometimes it's like what do you and and But Stoops has admitted it, and I know it's hot to bring it back. But at least he's admitted.

00:41:42
Speaker 2: I want to see him get up and admit it one time without tell me all the good stuff he's done. We know, stand up and go. This year was unacceptable. Do not stand up there and go. This year was unacceptable. But by the way, I've done some stuff here that nobody else has had. If you cook a meal and it sucks, you don't sit there and tell me that the meal last night was really good. I know it was really good. This meal stunk. Stop telling me what you used to do used to is irrelevant. It's now in the future and it now you've failed. So now the question is what is the future. And we'll find out. We're gonna switch gears because we got a curse to get rid of. Yes, I'm a cowboy now and we'll be right back as Kentucky Sports right now,