Ep:203 Monsters of Chestnut Ridge

<v Speaker 1>I looked up in the sky and there was an
<v Speaker 1>orb i'd say one hundred and fifty yards up. I
<v Speaker 1>compare it to the size of like a Volkswagen bus.
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty big. It got real bright, and then
<v Speaker 1>it just dimmed down and went out. It started flashing.
<v Speaker 1>It turned colors a couple different times. It was like
<v Speaker 1>from white to blue to green I think, and then
<v Speaker 1>to red, and then it went to white again. And
<v Speaker 1>it stayed in the same spot for almost well, i'd
<v Speaker 1>say a little over an hour. Yeah, it was crazy.
<v Speaker 1>So we all got in the car. There's a really
<v Speaker 1>large cemetery up the hill from my house, and that's
<v Speaker 1>where this thing was, was like above the cemetery. So
<v Speaker 1>we all got in the car and went up there
<v Speaker 1>and we were like, you know, trying to get video
<v Speaker 1>of and stuff. And so we're sitting there and it
<v Speaker 1>just starts to slowly drift off. We tried to follow
<v Speaker 1>it in the car, but we lost it. And that
<v Speaker 1>thing was incredible. There's a lot of weird stuff going
<v Speaker 1>on around this area.
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to welcome Chadwick Gils to the show. Chadwick
<v Speaker 2>is the founder of the Chestnut Ridge Paranormal Are you
<v Speaker 2>from that area.
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, yeah, I actually live on the Chestnut Ridge
<v Speaker 1>and that's where I do most of my investigating.
<v Speaker 2>So did you hear about things going on around that
<v Speaker 2>area throughout your life or is this something new for you.
<v Speaker 1>There's all kinds of stuff that's been going on here
<v Speaker 1>for years, and like growing up here, you hear all
<v Speaker 1>these stories. You know, it's like mostly from relatives and
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, because I'm related to half of the
<v Speaker 1>mountain side around here, so there's a lot. There's a
<v Speaker 1>lot going on here and I'm pretty much grown up
<v Speaker 1>with it.
<v Speaker 2>Is that what got you interested in the paranormal encryptids
<v Speaker 2>and all that sort of thing.
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of been into it all my life, pretty
<v Speaker 1>much like back when I was a young kid, I
<v Speaker 1>was into horror movies and stuff like that. And then
<v Speaker 1>you start hearing these stories about things out in the
<v Speaker 1>woods and kind of gets your interest. You know, it's
<v Speaker 1>like peak my interest for sure. But like the one
<v Speaker 1>thing that like really got me into it is like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get up, you go to work, come home,
<v Speaker 1>you do whatever, same thing over and over and over again.
<v Speaker 1>I started getting bored with life a little bit, you know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and one night I went out to my truck. It
<v Speaker 1>was a Saturday night. It was like ten o'clock at night.
<v Speaker 1>I went off to my truck to get i think
<v Speaker 1>a backpack that I take to work. I looked up
<v Speaker 1>in the sky and there was an orb I'd say
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty yards up. I mean, it's kind
<v Speaker 1>of hard to tell distance things like that, but it
<v Speaker 1>wasn't up real high, but it wasn't like real close
<v Speaker 1>to the ground. And this thing, I compare it to
<v Speaker 1>the size of like a Volkswagen bus. It was pretty big,
<v Speaker 1>and it just started like it got real bright and
<v Speaker 1>then it just dim down and went out. Then it
<v Speaker 1>lit back up, got real bright again, then it dimmed
<v Speaker 1>down and went out. It started flashing. It turned colors
<v Speaker 1>a couple different times. It was like it went from
<v Speaker 1>white to blue to green I think, and then to
<v Speaker 1>red and then it went to white again and it
<v Speaker 1>just kept doing that. It would like dim down, go out,
<v Speaker 1>and then it would light back up, and it stayed
<v Speaker 1>in the same spot for almost well, i'd say a
<v Speaker 1>little bit for an hour.
<v Speaker 2>Huh.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was crazy. So we all got in the car.
<v Speaker 1>Like my kids, they were young at the time, they're adults. Now,
<v Speaker 1>so it was a while ago, but we all got
<v Speaker 1>in the car and there's a really large cemetery up
<v Speaker 1>the hill from my house and that's where this thing was,
<v Speaker 1>was like above the cemetery. So we all got in
<v Speaker 1>the car and went up there and we were like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to get video of it and stuff,
<v Speaker 1>and so we're sitting there and it just starts to
<v Speaker 1>slowly drift off and it just took off. We tried
<v Speaker 1>to follow it in the car, but we lost it.
<v Speaker 1>And that thing was incredible. I mean, that's what really
<v Speaker 1>got me into doing this. I was like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take a bigger look into what's going on
<v Speaker 1>around here. And yeah, it's not disappointing. I'll tell you
<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot. There's a lot of weird stuff
<v Speaker 1>going on around this area.
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about the Chestnut Bridge a couple times on
<v Speaker 2>the show. For anybody listening that's not familiar, it's just
<v Speaker 2>kind of a geographical region in the Pennsylvania area. Does
<v Speaker 2>it extend outside of Pennsylvania.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it goes down into close to Morgantown, West Virginia.
<v Speaker 1>It starts in Indiana County in Pennsylvania, goes down through
<v Speaker 1>Indiana County, west Moreland County, Fayette County, and a little
<v Speaker 1>bit into Bedford County, and then it stops right outside
<v Speaker 1>of Morgantown, West Virginia.
<v Speaker 2>So what are some of the more prominent stories that
<v Speaker 2>you've heard in that area.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, there's a lot. With Stan Gordon, he has a
<v Speaker 1>lot of stories stuff that happened, encounters like you know,
<v Speaker 1>UFO encounters, Bigfoot encounters.
<v Speaker 2>He's pretty much like the goat legend of the area.
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yeah, definitely. Yeah. I've talked to Stan quite
<v Speaker 1>a few times. He's a nice guy. Nice guy. One day,
<v Speaker 1>it was, uh, what was it, March twenty sixth, twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. I went to this place pretty close to
<v Speaker 1>probably only about twenty minutes from my house. It's called
<v Speaker 1>Betty knoxs Park, and I heard that there were like
<v Speaker 1>a couple big foot sightings up there, you know, I
<v Speaker 1>heard through the grapevine. I'm wanted to go check it
<v Speaker 1>out and see if I could find any kind of
<v Speaker 1>evidence or anything. So I went up and this place
<v Speaker 1>is like it's mainly known for like fly fishing stuff
<v Speaker 1>like that, because there's a eastern sized creek that goes
<v Speaker 1>through it, and then you drive back a long dirt
<v Speaker 1>road to a big, pretty big parking lot and there's
<v Speaker 1>like hiking trails and stuff like that, but on either
<v Speaker 1>side of the parking lot there's a gas line pipeline.
<v Speaker 1>So I got the bright ideas like, huh, I'm going
<v Speaker 1>to take a hike up this pipeline. And that was
<v Speaker 1>a bad idea. It took forever to get up. Everything
<v Speaker 1>was so steep, but I got up to the top
<v Speaker 1>and I saw these little like crevice caves in the ground,
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I jumped down in one and looked
<v Speaker 1>around a little bit, didn't really see anything. So I
<v Speaker 1>climbed back up out and I started hearing like a
<v Speaker 1>really weird whistle. It was like like a whistle, but
<v Speaker 1>it had like a buzz of electricity in with it,
<v Speaker 1>you know. It was it was like creepy. I kept
<v Speaker 1>hearing it, and like I'd try to get to where
<v Speaker 1>it was coming from, and it seemed like every time
<v Speaker 1>I got close to it, it would stop and pop
<v Speaker 1>up somewhere else, like you know, twenty yards way over
<v Speaker 1>to the left, or yeah, fifteen yards way over to
<v Speaker 1>the right, And I'm like, why that is going on?
<v Speaker 1>So I kept trying to do that, and every time
<v Speaker 1>it would just like stop, pop up somewhere else. I
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, that's enough of this. So I hiked
<v Speaker 1>back down over the pipeline. I got in my truck
<v Speaker 1>and I started driving down the dirt, ready to get
<v Speaker 1>out of there. And I'm driving along. I just happened
<v Speaker 1>to look over toward the creek and I've seen this
<v Speaker 1>big sand bank. I was like, huh, thinking to myself,
<v Speaker 1>you know, that'd be a good place to look for tracks,
<v Speaker 1>not really expecting to find anything or anything like that.
<v Speaker 1>I went over and man, when I went over there,
<v Speaker 1>it was crazy. First thing I saw for these two
<v Speaker 1>trackways coming up out of the water and up the sandbank,
<v Speaker 1>and then there were just tracks everywhere, like all over
<v Speaker 1>that sandbank, all over the place. They were fourteen inch
<v Speaker 1>long three toad tracks. They were crazy looking.
<v Speaker 2>I've seen these tracks on your video, Oh you have okay?
<v Speaker 1>Cool?
<v Speaker 2>And now are these I just recently spoke to Daniel
<v Speaker 2>Binlaugh on the show and he talked about some large
<v Speaker 2>three toad tracks in Pennsylvania. Are these the same tracks
<v Speaker 2>that he was talking about?
<v Speaker 1>Probably, I would imagine.
<v Speaker 2>And he had like sent images of them to Ken Gerhart,
<v Speaker 2>I believe who said something about he's heard, you know,
<v Speaker 2>rumors of you know, people letting go pet alligators and
<v Speaker 2>stuff in Pennsylvania, which I don't see how that would
<v Speaker 2>ever be a thing, but sure, we'll right, we'll go
<v Speaker 2>there for the sake of argument. I have seen the tracks.
<v Speaker 2>Those are not alligator tracks. That's not what amis like
<v Speaker 2>at all, not at all. I'm at a complete freaking loss, man.
<v Speaker 2>Those tracks are freaking crazy.
<v Speaker 1>The thing that gets me about it, it's like most
<v Speaker 1>of the people I show right away they say, oh,
<v Speaker 1>that's some kind of big giant bird. Okay, but a
<v Speaker 1>bird doesn't have a humanoid looking heel right now, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>these things have a heel like a human almost. It's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>That's what move My minding just completely boggles me about it.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just to this day, I'm like, what the hell
<v Speaker 1>made these tracks?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, did you try to follow them or anything?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean I'm a pretty decent tracker, and
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were just they just went everywhere like
<v Speaker 1>it was weird. It was like they were running around
<v Speaker 1>looking for something or something. It was it was like
<v Speaker 1>mass confusion because I could not find where they left.
<v Speaker 1>I think they might have went back into the creek
<v Speaker 1>and you know, walk down the creek or up the
<v Speaker 1>creek or something. It was crazy.
<v Speaker 2>You said originally that they came out of the creek
<v Speaker 2>they originated from the Yeah, two distinct, separate trackways, not
<v Speaker 2>necessarily running side by side like a four legged animal
<v Speaker 2>or something.
<v Speaker 1>No, these they were like so there was probably about
<v Speaker 1>four foot in between the track ways, you know what
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like beside each other. Yeah, so you could
<v Speaker 1>tell like there were two things that come up out
<v Speaker 1>of the water. It was crazy. It just I never
<v Speaker 1>I never expected a million years doing his stuff to
<v Speaker 1>find something like that. It just it completely blew my mind.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what was the first thing that came to
<v Speaker 2>mind whenever you saw the tracks as far as like
<v Speaker 2>what they were.
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I thought dinosaur. Yeah, that's what they kind of
<v Speaker 1>looked like. You know, it's like what in the world.
<v Speaker 1>Totally bizarre, totally bizarre. But that's not even the best part.
<v Speaker 1>Here's the best part. I got the bright idea. I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I need something to cast these with. So I took off,
<v Speaker 1>you know, went the bomb work, got some plaster, flew
<v Speaker 1>back up there. I'm mixing up, the plaster started pouring.
<v Speaker 1>A couple I hear a car door slim like, oh boy,
<v Speaker 1>I look up. Here comes a game warding what like,
<v Speaker 1>what does this guy doing? He comes walking over, and
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was just eyeballing me, wouldn't say a word.
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to talk to him, wouldn't say nothing, looking around,
<v Speaker 1>staring at me, looking around. I'm like, hey, have you
<v Speaker 1>ever seen anything like his? Buddy?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, can you identify this?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well, he comes walking over and he just starts
<v Speaker 1>rubbing out the tracks with his foot. What yeah, yep,
<v Speaker 1>started dragging his foot through him, covering him up. I
<v Speaker 1>screamed at him to stop. You know, I'm like freaking out.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are you doing? Man, I'm trying to
<v Speaker 1>cast these and you're over here rubbing them out, trying
<v Speaker 1>to destroy him. He wouldn't say anything. He just kept
<v Speaker 1>staring at me. I'm like, hey, man, come on, dude,
<v Speaker 1>level with me. Have you ever seen anything like this before?
<v Speaker 1>And he's staring at me. He looks around for a
<v Speaker 1>second and he looks back at me and says, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you'll have that, turned around, got in his truck and
<v Speaker 1>left you. Yeah, that's all he said. He looked at
<v Speaker 1>me and said, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>You'll have that like this is just yeah, this is
<v Speaker 2>something that happens.
<v Speaker 1>He didn't look surprised at all, not at all. I
<v Speaker 1>can imagine what my face looked like when I walked
<v Speaker 1>over and saw that. I could not believe it. I
<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe it. First thing I did. I ran back
<v Speaker 1>to my truck, grabbed my camera and grabbed the tape measure.
<v Speaker 1>I went back over and started recording. I got put
<v Speaker 1>three videos and I have a ton of pictures. I
<v Speaker 1>mean a ton of pictures.
<v Speaker 2>And for people that have looked at them, as anybody
<v Speaker 2>guessed as to what they might be like, is there
<v Speaker 2>any sort of explanation that is explainable.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I got invited to go on a TV show
<v Speaker 1>and they said EMU tracks.
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah yeah, EMU tracks.
<v Speaker 1>They don't look anything like EMU tracks. No. I compared,
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I did a little bit
<v Speaker 1>of research on it. EMU hell, a six foot tall
<v Speaker 1>EMU only has a six to seven inch track. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>So going by that logic, if they were emu's, they
<v Speaker 1>would have been twelve feet.
<v Speaker 2>Tall and the toes the distinct three toes in the
<v Speaker 2>tracks aren't really splayed out all that much like a bird.
<v Speaker 1>Track, No, not at all. Yeah, they're like forward facing
<v Speaker 1>more than like spread apart and splayed out. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm still I'm still stumped.
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was almost five years ago and I'm
<v Speaker 1>still trying to figure it out. It's like, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>get on the ridge on the hillside up there. I
<v Speaker 1>heard a guy told me about some caves up there,
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to go up try to find these
<v Speaker 1>caves and see if I can find anything in the caves.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's a great idea or not,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to try it out. See what happens. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I might run into something I don't want to.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the the ridge has, like you were saying,
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stories, anything you can think of. I've
<v Speaker 2>heard reports of people seeing dragons, I've heard right flying
<v Speaker 2>manta rays, like just crazy stuff. Yeah, I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>assume that dog Man would be in that mix as well.
<v Speaker 1>That's what I said in my video. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>what is this thing? And what is this Dogman tracks?
<v Speaker 1>Because you know, I'm spitballing trying to figure it out.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know. To me, they look more
<v Speaker 1>like more reptilian than anything, you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, they I mean, I don't know what a
<v Speaker 2>fourteen inch reptilian track looks like, but right they give
<v Speaker 2>off that reptilian vibe for sure, with the toe structure
<v Speaker 2>and everything. But then it's got that human type hill
<v Speaker 2>that you're talking about, which just doesn't match anything.
<v Speaker 1>And that's what completely throw it. I'm like, what in
<v Speaker 1>the world is this Cause, like moss bird tracks, they
<v Speaker 1>have that little skinny toe pointing back, yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and this this.
<v Speaker 2>Has a heel, so it's like and they're huge.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they're huge. Yeah. Fourteen inches, yeah, the bigger
<v Speaker 1>the bigger ones were fourteen and the other track way
<v Speaker 1>they were like twelve I think.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, huh.
<v Speaker 1>Whatever they were they were, they were heavy because they
<v Speaker 1>were sunk down in you know what, I mean, a
<v Speaker 1>lot more than my tracks were. Yeah, and I weighed
<v Speaker 1>a little over two hundred pounds at the time. Heck
<v Speaker 1>Muscak going maybe an ahem an inch. These things were
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of inches in, so whatever they were,
<v Speaker 1>they had to be heavy, very heavy.
<v Speaker 2>Do you think whatever left the tracks was related to
<v Speaker 2>the whistling or were they older than that?
<v Speaker 1>Now the tracks they look pretty fresh to me, and
<v Speaker 1>they they couldn't have been there but maybe a few
<v Speaker 1>hours to seeing where they down in was still like way,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it wasn't dry or anything, so they weren't
<v Speaker 1>there very long.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you could see in the video that I mean
<v Speaker 2>that sandbar washes out pretty regularly.
<v Speaker 1>I would guess, yeah, yeah it does.
<v Speaker 2>And you even I remember seeing like a tree that
<v Speaker 2>was broken over, probably from whenever it floods through there
<v Speaker 2>and the waters running through there. So I mean, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they looked fresh in the video. I didn't see them
<v Speaker 2>in person, obviously you did. Is that the only thing
<v Speaker 2>that you've experienced in that general area or are there
<v Speaker 2>other things that you've experienced around there?
<v Speaker 1>I got a light orb on trail camera from basically
<v Speaker 1>the same area. It was up on that mountain side,
<v Speaker 1>a little bit up on where that pipeline is. At first,
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like a star or planet, you
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It was just a bright light
<v Speaker 1>in the sky, and then this thing started to like
<v Speaker 1>move and morph and like small ones came out of
<v Speaker 1>it went back in it. It was It's crazy. It's
<v Speaker 1>on my YouTube channel.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, whenever I was younger, I always thought of
<v Speaker 2>UFOs as like spaceships, you know what I mean, flying saucers, right,
<v Speaker 2>And now, uh, talking to different people, you hear more
<v Speaker 2>and more stories about these orbs of different sizes and
<v Speaker 2>the shapes kind of changing and transforming and you know,
<v Speaker 2>separating and going back together. Do you think it's something
<v Speaker 2>outer space related or something that's always been here?
<v Speaker 1>The vibe I get from it is like something that's
<v Speaker 1>always been here more than something from outer space, you know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like that. And then I got a video of one
<v Speaker 1>in my backyard one night. My wife and I were
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the couch watching TV and our security cameras.
<v Speaker 1>I got a notification on my phone a movement in
<v Speaker 1>my backyard, and we looked at the video and there's
<v Speaker 1>just like an intensely bright orb about the size of
<v Speaker 1>my fist, just floating around the backyard. And the weird
<v Speaker 1>part is I opened the back door. You know, I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>oh man, I gotta see this. I opened the back door.
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't see anything, couldn't see it with the naked eye.
<v Speaker 1>We could only see it through the eye or of
<v Speaker 1>the security camera. Weird, Yeah, it was really weird. I
<v Speaker 1>even grabbed a voice recorder and went out like where
<v Speaker 1>the general area where it was tried to get like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, some a voice or something, but I didn't
<v Speaker 1>get anything. I'm out there standing in the middle of
<v Speaker 1>my yard asking questions.
<v Speaker 2>Totally normal.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right. My neighbors were probably like, what is he doing? Yeah, well,
<v Speaker 1>they know him into this stuff. They know I'm a
<v Speaker 1>little weird.
<v Speaker 2>I also wanted to ask you about another video that
<v Speaker 2>I saw that you posted fairly recently of some tracks
<v Speaker 2>in the snow.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you see that that trackway is just going
<v Speaker 1>in a straight line. I couldn't believe that. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, looks awful big footage to me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing. It looked awful, big footish. Was
<v Speaker 2>that just like a random find? I mean, what was
<v Speaker 2>going on with that?
<v Speaker 1>I was driving along and just saw it. I was
<v Speaker 1>on it like a back dirt road, just taking a drive,
<v Speaker 1>making a video. I didn't even see the trackway at first.
<v Speaker 1>What made me stop was like a big disturbance in
<v Speaker 1>the snow, like something got attacked or something. It was
<v Speaker 1>just like all messed up, you know. And then I
<v Speaker 1>got out and looked and I was like, wait a minute,
<v Speaker 1>And then I saw the trackway too. I was like, what,
<v Speaker 1>which was really weird because that's what got my attentions.
<v Speaker 1>It was in a straight line. Yeah, it didn't look
<v Speaker 1>like a person walked through there or anything.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and I mean, why would a person be
<v Speaker 2>walking through there?
<v Speaker 1>Right right? Well?
<v Speaker 2>I was, but yeah, but you've got a purpose for
<v Speaker 2>being there. It seems kind of odd that somebody would
<v Speaker 2>just be out trapesing through the snow like that.
<v Speaker 1>Right right, Yeah, that big spot that was like all
<v Speaker 1>messed up, like something happened there. I don't know. I
<v Speaker 1>kind of get the feeling like something got attacked right there,
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't see any blood anything like that. It
<v Speaker 1>was just like a big disturbance in the snow. So
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's that one's a little weird. And
<v Speaker 1>that was just the other night too, I think what
<v Speaker 1>Saturday night, I went back there to find an old
<v Speaker 1>cemetery that my buddy Travis told me about. It was
<v Speaker 1>back on top of the mountain. But when I got
<v Speaker 1>out there, I was like, then there's just way too
<v Speaker 1>much snow.
<v Speaker 2>It was.
<v Speaker 1>It's still really deep up there.
<v Speaker 2>Are there a lot of cemeteries in that area up
<v Speaker 2>on the mountain. Oh yeah, that's another thing from you know,
<v Speaker 2>whenever you're younger and getting into this stuff, you think
<v Speaker 2>cemeteries and you automatically go to ghosts and haunts and
<v Speaker 2>all that good stuff.
<v Speaker 1>But there there's quite a few bigfoot dog men. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>encounters from cemeteries. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>What do you think the connection is?
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Man, I have no idea. I know all this
<v Speaker 1>stuff got to be connected somehow, like you know, UFA's ghosts, cryptids,
<v Speaker 1>the orbs, all that stuff, But I have no idea how.
<v Speaker 1>It just seems to me like it's all connected somehow.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're another one of those people right where
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're not just randomly experiencing one thing in
<v Speaker 2>your lifetime and then that's it. You're experiencing all different
<v Speaker 2>kinds of things right the span of your entire life.
<v Speaker 2>And that seems to be the case with a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people.
<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, that's like the place where I found the tracks.
<v Speaker 1>If you go back to creek about them out, you
<v Speaker 1>got to cross the creek again and stuff. There is
<v Speaker 1>a old cemetery back there in the middle Woods all
<v Speaker 1>by itself, and I was back there one day making
<v Speaker 1>a video from a YouTube channel, and something was pacing
<v Speaker 1>me through the woods. Sounded like a like a heavy
<v Speaker 1>set person just walking with me down through on the
<v Speaker 1>other side of the brush. I couldn't see anything I
<v Speaker 1>was walking, but I could hear it, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>what was this? So I just started like talking more
<v Speaker 1>and more and acted like I didn't hear it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And I'm walking down back down toward the cemetery and
<v Speaker 1>I'm just rambling on about I don't even know what
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about, and I'm paying attention to this
<v Speaker 1>the whole time. I could hear branches popping from it stepping.
<v Speaker 1>And I get down by the cemetery and I shut up,
<v Speaker 1>and I tanned the camera over and you can hear
<v Speaker 1>like two branches breaking where it sounded like it took
<v Speaker 1>two more steps and stopped. So I took off across
<v Speaker 1>the cemetery because I wanted to see what it was.
<v Speaker 1>I half expected a person or a bear or something
<v Speaker 1>to jump out, and there was actually nothing there. Nothing.
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy, And I mean, I caught those two
<v Speaker 1>branches breaking and something was there, and when I got
<v Speaker 1>there there was nothing there. It was that was intense.
<v Speaker 2>There was another video you were making where you were
<v Speaker 2>placing rocks on a creek to get across, and something
<v Speaker 2>happened that a rock was thrown into the creek or something.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see that sucks because I wish I wouldn't have
<v Speaker 1>had the camera down by the water and you can't
<v Speaker 1>hear the rock getting thrown in. But man, oh my goodness,
<v Speaker 1>was that thing. It was loud and I could hear
<v Speaker 1>it hit the bottom of the creek too. It must
<v Speaker 1>have hit, like, you know, a solid part of the
<v Speaker 1>bedrock or something, because it like bumped so loud. I
<v Speaker 1>wish I would have got that.
<v Speaker 2>So you're going into these areas to record these videos
<v Speaker 2>and look for evidence and stuff like that. And naturally,
<v Speaker 2>whenever you're making these videos, you're out there with the
<v Speaker 2>camera and you're talking to the camera, you're recording dialogue
<v Speaker 2>and all that. Right, do you find that things start
<v Speaker 2>happening when you start recording like that? Is that like
<v Speaker 2>a regular occurrence for you?
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it. I mean, it's it's strange. You know,
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't really expect stuff to happen, but
<v Speaker 1>most of the time when I go out something happens.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's weird.
<v Speaker 2>Do you go to the same areas?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, basically, huh, pretty much stick to the same couple
<v Speaker 1>of different spots. I mean, I've had pretty good luck
<v Speaker 1>most of them. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering if something recognizes you at this point,
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, Yeah, that would make sense because that Baby
<v Speaker 1>Knox Park. I've been going there for ten years now
<v Speaker 1>doing this. I go there a lot. I mean, I've
<v Speaker 1>come up with some pretty good evidence there. There's a
<v Speaker 1>I got a photo of a big, giant pile of
<v Speaker 1>Scott my ex wife found. And it's weird because I
<v Speaker 1>know what bear Scott looks like. This isn't Bear Scott.
<v Speaker 1>It's almost as big around as I put a water
<v Speaker 1>bottle in the picture with it for scale, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and it's as big around as the water bottle is huge. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>What kind of evidence are you finding up there?
<v Speaker 1>Well, like I said, most of the time, stuff happens
<v Speaker 1>like when I'm recording videos, you know, like tree knocks
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like like that video you were talking about
<v Speaker 1>where I was throwing the rocks in. If you listen
<v Speaker 1>when I picked the camera up and I turn around,
<v Speaker 1>you can hear a tree knock, it's as loud as
<v Speaker 1>can be.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking about how a lot of bigfoot activity
<v Speaker 2>encounters happen when where people are just out camping or
<v Speaker 2>out hiking. It's pretty common theory that, you know, we're
<v Speaker 2>a form of entertainment for them or whatever. They come
<v Speaker 2>to check you out, and I'm just wondering what you
<v Speaker 2>out there kind of isolated, poking around talking to a camera.
<v Speaker 1>I talked to the woods too when I'm out there.
<v Speaker 2>You know, what sorts of things do you say?
<v Speaker 1>Hello, I'm here, how are you today? You know, stuff
<v Speaker 1>like that, friendly greetings, and you know.
<v Speaker 2>Do you believe that there's some sort of paranormal or
<v Speaker 2>supernatural element to all of this?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I kind of do from some of the stuff
<v Speaker 1>I've seen and experienced. Yeah, definitely. That kind of stuff
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't happen, you know. It's like something's got to
<v Speaker 1>be causing this. And I mean, I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>it's the energy I'm taking with me, or if it's
<v Speaker 1>energy that's already there or what. It's just like, ever
<v Speaker 1>since I got into doing this, it's stuff just keeps happening,
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's weird. It's so weird. It's like where
<v Speaker 1>I found those tracks. If you go across the creek
<v Speaker 1>up the mountain side, about two and a half miles
<v Speaker 1>through the woods, there's people live there, there's a property there,
<v Speaker 1>and they got a hold of me last year sometime
<v Speaker 1>wanted me to come up and look around because I
<v Speaker 1>knew both of them, like the woman I knew since
<v Speaker 1>I was young, like real young. But they both said
<v Speaker 1>they've seen a wearers creature on their property. So you
<v Speaker 1>know that guy that piqued my interest, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>maybe that is what made the tracks, you know, And
<v Speaker 1>they have all kinds of weird, crazy stuff going on
<v Speaker 1>up there. And like I said, it's only about two
<v Speaker 1>and a half miles through the woods from where I
<v Speaker 1>found those tracks, and they're on a like on up
<v Speaker 1>on the mountaintop and they're out there by themselves. I
<v Speaker 1>mean their driveway it's about a mile long through the
<v Speaker 1>woods and it sneaks around. It's it's crazy. They're out
<v Speaker 1>there completely by themselves.
<v Speaker 2>I mean to say that they've got like a werewolf.
<v Speaker 2>Have they seen it?
<v Speaker 1>They both said they've seen it. The woman said that
<v Speaker 1>she was driving home. I guess a bunch of them
<v Speaker 1>were like gonna get ready to go quad riding up
<v Speaker 1>in the mountains. But she was coming up the dirt
<v Speaker 1>road and the road splits. If you go left, it
<v Speaker 1>goes to their place, and if you go right, it
<v Speaker 1>goes out to like a pipeline, and like there's like
<v Speaker 1>quad trails and stuff out there out in the woods.
<v Speaker 1>She said, this thing come up out of the woods,
<v Speaker 1>walked across the road, stopped in the middle of the road,
<v Speaker 1>turned and looked at her and like snarled and then
<v Speaker 1>turned back around and had it took off up into
<v Speaker 1>the woods. She said it was about seven and a
<v Speaker 1>half foot tall and looked like a were wolf you'd
<v Speaker 1>see on a movie or a TV show. So it
<v Speaker 1>was like black with grayish highlights in it and stuff.
<v Speaker 1>And she said they freaked her out big time. And
<v Speaker 1>then the guy said he saw something through the brush
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't really see except for like the lower portion,
<v Speaker 1>and he said he saw like the backward dent legs,
<v Speaker 1>and said it freaked him out. But yeah, they got
<v Speaker 1>some weird stuff going on up there. They both said
<v Speaker 1>they've seen like bigfoot. They both had bigfoot encounters up there.
<v Speaker 1>He said he walked out on his deck one night
<v Speaker 1>and there was one standing by a tree looking at him,
<v Speaker 1>said it was about ten foot tall. So looked at
<v Speaker 1>him for a minute, turned around, walked off into the woods.
<v Speaker 1>He showed me the spot where it was, and I
<v Speaker 1>measured up on the tree where he said the head was,
<v Speaker 1>and it was about it was ten foot usuly ten foot.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, he got some weird stuff, man.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but somebody's not gonna if your eyes are playing
<v Speaker 2>tricks on you, or you just got something on the brain,
<v Speaker 2>it's probably in that type scenario, you know, driving through
<v Speaker 2>the woods at night or whatever, you're probably gonna think
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot every time you know, something creeps in your mind,
<v Speaker 2>you know, But to say like a werewolf, nobody just
<v Speaker 2>pulls a werewolf out of their hat, right.
<v Speaker 1>And she said it looked like a were wolf you'd
<v Speaker 1>see on a movie. And she don't. She doesn't want
<v Speaker 1>like her name brought up or anything. She's like, if
<v Speaker 1>you tell anyone about that I said this, I'm just
<v Speaker 1>gonna call you a liar and deny it. She wants
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with being known for it or anything.
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry, Carol, nobody's gonna say your name. Just kidding.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know her name. Yeah, that's that's crazy. And
<v Speaker 2>hearing about bigfoot and werewolf, dog man, whatever you want
<v Speaker 2>to call it in this location at somebody's property, that
<v Speaker 2>would be terrifying.
<v Speaker 1>They don't go anywhere on the property without having either
<v Speaker 1>a rifle or a shotgun in hand. Every time I've
<v Speaker 1>gone up there and we go out on the property,
<v Speaker 1>he either has a rifle or a shotgun. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go anywhere without it. He said, he can
<v Speaker 1>set out on his deck and he can hear him
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard reports of like aggressive activity towards people
<v Speaker 2>or anything.
<v Speaker 1>No? No, nothing aggressive.
<v Speaker 2>And you've never felt like you were in trouble or
<v Speaker 2>anything whenever you were out there?
<v Speaker 1>No, not really, huh. I usually get like a feeling
<v Speaker 1>of being watched, but right doesn't feel aggressive or you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's just.
<v Speaker 2>No impending doom or anything like that.
<v Speaker 1>No. No, But yeah, I'm gonna spend a lot of
<v Speaker 1>time up on that property this summer. I'm gonna see
<v Speaker 1>what's going on up there, because every time I've gone
<v Speaker 1>up I've never had anything happen or anything. So I
<v Speaker 1>want to spend a decent amount of time up there.
<v Speaker 1>See if I can get some activity to happen, get
<v Speaker 1>it on video or something.
<v Speaker 2>You know. Have you experienced anything at home, Like, has
<v Speaker 2>anything followed you home from up there?
<v Speaker 1>Uh? That light urb in the backyard, I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if that followed me from the woods or if it
<v Speaker 1>came from the cemetery up over the hill or or what. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty weird though. That thing was so bright, so bright,
<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah, it's on my YouTube channel through. I
<v Speaker 1>think it's called light orb in my backyard or something.
<v Speaker 1>Check out one out. That thing's crazy, like super bright.
<v Speaker 2>Whenever it comes to the orb stuff, there seems to
<v Speaker 2>be some sort of intelligence attached to it. You hear
<v Speaker 2>stories about them seemingly responding to the person watching them somehow,
<v Speaker 2>And oftentimes it's not like an isolated incident. It's like
<v Speaker 2>once you see one. I've heard numerous people talk about
<v Speaker 2>like they start seeing them pretty regularly, Like these things
<v Speaker 2>are like checking in on them or something.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it gets strange for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Have you had any what you would call paranormal stuff
<v Speaker 2>like ghost stuff happen.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, yeah, kind of. I mean a lot
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, like in my house sometimes it's weird, sounds
<v Speaker 1>like there's a woman upstairs talking, And it happens every
<v Speaker 1>once in a great while. But when I catch it, it's
<v Speaker 1>like it's loud, and it's it's there, you know what
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Yeah, and then it's just over and it's done.
<v Speaker 2>And it's a completely different feeling than like whenever you
<v Speaker 2>hear stuff out in the woods.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, completely different. Yeah, it kind of creeps me
<v Speaker 1>out when I hear it in the house, But then
<v Speaker 1>of course me I'll grab a spirit box and start
<v Speaker 1>out asking questions.
<v Speaker 2>You know, and have you gotten any responses?
<v Speaker 1>One time I asked are you a female? And it
<v Speaker 1>said yes, that's the only response I ever got, And
<v Speaker 1>that was true. That was ten years ago.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe have you taken the spar box out to the woods?
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I did. I had it in a cemetery
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago and I didn't get anything.
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna keep trying that. Definitely going to take
<v Speaker 1>it back out in the woods with me.
<v Speaker 2>Do you have other like ghost hunting equipment?
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I got millimeters, rimpods, I got a
<v Speaker 1>couple of homemade sols cameras. I was thinking about taking
<v Speaker 1>one of those out in the woods, but it'll probably
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of you know, false positive stick figures
<v Speaker 1>because all the trees and everything, right, But I'm thinking
<v Speaker 1>about trying it. I might try it.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of similarities, you know, people pretty common
<v Speaker 2>practice to associate the term infrasound with Bigfoot. People experience
<v Speaker 2>infrasound symptoms, oftentimes in the woods while looking for Bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>for some reason or when they think Bigfoot's around. I've
<v Speaker 2>experienced some physical symptoms myself while out in the woods
<v Speaker 2>looking for Bigfoot. But a buddy of mine, Bob Demingez,
<v Speaker 2>who's also the host of the Bigfoot Club podcast free
<v Speaker 2>plug there he's been into the paranormal stuff his whole
<v Speaker 2>life as well, and he pointed out that a lot
<v Speaker 2>of the symptoms of infrasound exposure are the same as
<v Speaker 2>EMF exposure that people experience during paranormal events. I would
<v Speaker 2>be really curious as to the results of like taking
<v Speaker 2>like an EMF reader out into the woods and seeing
<v Speaker 2>if you get anything.
<v Speaker 1>I do, I take a mil meter out with me.
<v Speaker 2>Have you any fluctuations or anything?
<v Speaker 1>Not really, I mean slight, but nothing like major or anything.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe like a couple of points here and there. But
<v Speaker 1>that's about it.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you shouldn't. You're out in the woods.
<v Speaker 1>Right right right exactly. Yeah, but yeah, I wish I
<v Speaker 1>would have had it with me when I was getting paced,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, that would have been that would have
<v Speaker 1>been pretty cool. I bet it would have spiked, because
<v Speaker 1>that was just weird, completely weird, feeling the hair on
<v Speaker 1>the back of my neck was standing up. It was
<v Speaker 1>just it was freaky. It was really creepy but really
<v Speaker 1>cool at the same time. I don't know that was
<v Speaker 1>that was wild. That was the only time something like
<v Speaker 1>that ever happened to me in the woods, and it
<v Speaker 1>was pretty crazy.
<v Speaker 2>What's your main goal with all this?
<v Speaker 1>Well, now, my main goal is to try to find
<v Speaker 1>out what made those tracks and maybe try to see
<v Speaker 1>if I can it's some kind of hard evidence of
<v Speaker 1>what's running around in the woods around here, because something's
<v Speaker 1>going on, something's up there making those tracks and leaving
<v Speaker 1>piles of scat, and I don't know, I just like
<v Speaker 1>doing it for fun, honestly. It's like I started doing
<v Speaker 1>this for a hobby and it just started picking up
<v Speaker 1>and more stuff started happening, and more stuff started happening,
<v Speaker 1>and next thing you know, I'm talking to bigfoot researchers
<v Speaker 1>and investigators and I'm just like what, Yeah, Like, what's
<v Speaker 1>going on here? It's like I'm a nobody. And then
<v Speaker 1>I got these guys asking me questions about, you know,
<v Speaker 1>stuff I've been finding. I'm like, Wow, pretty crazy.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're not a nobody. You're on the same
<v Speaker 2>level as anybody that's doing this stuff. You know, there's
<v Speaker 2>there's definitely people that have more of a following or
<v Speaker 2>a more recognizable name and things like that, multiple television appearances,
<v Speaker 2>under the belt or whatever, But whenever it comes to
<v Speaker 2>the actual subject matter, none of us know anything. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we're all on the same page. Yeah, everybody's got theories,
<v Speaker 2>and there might be people that have spent you know,
<v Speaker 2>fifty years out there looking for things and all that,
<v Speaker 2>but at the end of the day, you know, we
<v Speaker 2>we're all trying to get to the same goal, it
<v Speaker 2>seems of just trying to understand some of this crazy
<v Speaker 2>stuff that's happening.
<v Speaker 1>I know. I love how like on TV it'll say
<v Speaker 1>someone's an expert. Yeah, It's like, no one's an expert
<v Speaker 1>in this. There are no experts in this.
<v Speaker 2>I think people can be experts on, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>lore and the subject matter, but whenever it comes to
<v Speaker 2>the actual thing itself, like none of us know anything.
<v Speaker 2>People can guess, but that's about it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's all. That's all. We got theories and guesses.
<v Speaker 1>There's no like hard evidence.
<v Speaker 2>So what is your theory and guess as to what's
<v Speaker 2>going on at Chestnut Ridge? Because what it? You know,
<v Speaker 2>it's not just Bigfoot, it's not just dog Maun, it's
<v Speaker 2>not just UFOs, it's everything. Do you think it's the area?
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's like a portal of some kind,
<v Speaker 2>like what is going on?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I do, because the energy. Man, you can just
<v Speaker 1>feel it around here. It's just like something's going on.
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like it's it's hard to explain, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's just I get out in those
<v Speaker 1>woods and I just start getting these all these different feelings,
<v Speaker 1>and it's like I can tell when something's gonna happen too.
<v Speaker 1>It's like I start getting the goose bumps, the hair
<v Speaker 1>stands up on the back of my neck, and like
<v Speaker 1>something's getting ready to happen. Oh boy, there's just so
<v Speaker 1>much strangeness, like high strangeness going on around here. I'm
<v Speaker 1>surprised there's not more people from this area doing this.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you said that you're related to tons of people
<v Speaker 2>in the area and that you've heard stories and everything.
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, do people just accept it and just
<v Speaker 2>go by out there day.
<v Speaker 1>Or pretty much? Yeah, pretty much like normal occurrence around here.
<v Speaker 2>Tell me about your YouTube channel.
<v Speaker 1>Man, oh yeah, it's called chestnut rich par Normal and
<v Speaker 1>I started it just to put all my evidence on.
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot. I think I got like one
<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety five videos. Now, wow, got quite quite
<v Speaker 1>a few UFO videos. Well, what I think are UFOs
<v Speaker 1>because they don't look like conventional aircraft. You know. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>what is this thing? It's like I see stuff in
<v Speaker 1>the sky around here all the time, at least once
<v Speaker 1>a week. It's been like that ever since I was
<v Speaker 1>a kid.
<v Speaker 2>I was about to ask, is it is that something
<v Speaker 2>new or something that's always been happening.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been happening ever since I was young, little kid.
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. It's just it's so weird, the stuff you'll
<v Speaker 1>get used to. It's like I'll see something strange in
<v Speaker 1>the sky and like, up, there's another one. So it's
<v Speaker 1>it's so Bizarre.
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