Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on squashing 50 Cent beef, Eminem's first NYC show & Big Pun joining Terror Squad

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Speaker 1: You know, I was there the first time in New York City we ever seen the eminem They was holding him by the back of his T shirt so he don't fly off the stage. He was just spitting so crazy of me and Pum. We all looking at each other.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, it was this white boy, that boy crazy one. Yeah, Yeah, what up y'all? Since Joe cracked the dawn?

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Speaker 3: It's your boy, Jada, you know what it is? Joe and jadas show man. What's up y'all?

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Speaker 2: Yo, Jada, you got that fly ship on. That's what you got, bro, that you got. You gotta stop fucking playing. You bought that baby.

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Speaker 1: Pastel out know I'm saying up and lessiaga.

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Speaker 3: That mint, that mint chocoy chip min.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something by he threw that shit on, you know, ah hip hop at his finest. I've been in the game professionally, I would say thirty three years.

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Speaker 2: How many years you've.

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Speaker 1: Been in the game twenty something? Twenty something? And people don't understand I got an ill story with you. You didn't even know about. No, I had an ill story. I might have saved you and you ain't know it.

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Speaker 2: Right, It was one time. I never forget. We had a.

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Speaker 1: Show in Chicago, and then Chicago has said, anybody come from out of town.

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Speaker 2: We robbing him. You don't remember that shit? At one time, they was I could tell you who it was, but you was dad.

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Speaker 1: When I walked in, Jadakiss was already there. I walked in with extra jury. I went, I went, I went out there. You know, I got a whole dude member.

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Speaker 4: We had a show, We had a we had a show on time in the Shy. Remember that, and.

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Speaker 1: That shit was I don't know if you knew that what was going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: It really was nothing to do with us. It just it was so yes, yes, we landed on print Frock.

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Speaker 1: They had to pimp with the machine gun under the fucking he was like on a wheelchair. The shit got real crazy out there, and I remember I seen Jada and the guys from Chicago, Sulu who was threatening everybody.

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Speaker 2: They were the first guys I saw when I walked in.

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Speaker 1: I had the stupid I wore extra jury because they was like, yo, anybody come in here, we robbing them. Streets was like yo, I went over there with the dumb jury that day. But you know, I got the crazy you know, I got the crazy crew in Chicago too. They seen that that seven headed swardsman's that never come out of the house.

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Speaker 2: They was like, this guy came in.

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Speaker 1: But you know, thinking of terrifying events, you know, uh really makes me think of one guy.

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Speaker 2: There's a historical figure in the hip hop.

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Speaker 1: And now that the man Blindy and Jail lost all his money, people like use his names.

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Speaker 2: And raps and all that.

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Speaker 1: But when Sugar Knight had three hundred million dollars, they were terrified of this man.

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Speaker 3: Sugar was shaking shit up. He was shaking shit, shaken or super shaken. He was shaking shit.

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Speaker 1: The man goes, nah, I don't know right, because the theory is I forget what movie it was. I think it was Bronze Saill where he said I'd rather be feared than love. I used it in my shatcha right, rather be feared the love? Do you truly rather be feared than love? And real life? Because this man was so feared that I don't know if I would feel good about myself. You know, I went to an awards show one time, and I ain't gonna talk about the Vibe Awards that would but I want you in the wheals your crazy.

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Speaker 4: I was there, I got That's one of the first awards I ever got.

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Speaker 1: The vibe you was there when Sugar Knight walked in by, he scared the whole place with a cigar.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about that? Lisa Keys running back. She you know, she pulled me to the side because I told this story before.

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Speaker 1: She was like, yo, bro. I was like, you know, how worship you, Alicia, But you did run past me and with the red dress like you know that Russell simth.

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Speaker 2: All he did was walking. Everybody ran out the whole ship.

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Speaker 1: There was no violence, yet everybody was running. Sister was like, yo, she don't appreciate how you put it in the store. I said, no, she's my sister.

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Speaker 2: And I worshiped her.

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Speaker 1: But she ran right past me with the red gown on like Russell Simmons was tumbling over like it was like the Great White Shop was in the building. They just let him out at jail.

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Speaker 2: He walk in his he ain't have a gun, His ship was a cigar. He was like this the whole fucking awards.

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't even talking about that because I don't want to go into that one right, But matter of fact, I felt right because I'm only there with my wife.

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Speaker 2: I think imn there with arm again and Tony. I wasn't there with the goons.

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Speaker 1: But it felt like saving Private Ryan or something like when you see a guy in the middle of a war zone and somebody standing there and everybody's running getting it like I'm standing there, I see Noriri stood there, and it's just everybody was running for no reasons before the violence. This is like the bit that they saw him. I'm at a I'm talking about a whole other time. I'm at a bt awater summer. Then we go to the after they got the restaurant that's open, got a thousand people in there, the whole industry, I'm not just sawing.

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Speaker 2: My rappers was in there talking. It was loud.

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Speaker 1: It was this next thing I know, the whole restaurant is quiet and around the whole restaurant emptied out. It was us eating and Suge Knights sat down in the table right next to us, him just walking in the restaurant. The whole restaurant ran out, the restaurant like it was like they were so shook at this dude. Everybody out there that, you know, I just he was like, what that big For some reason, he would call me all the time, big homie, What up, big homie. I'm be like, Yo's up, Yo, this sat down, We ate our food, we left, and people were just terrified of him on site. I'll tell you this story that Cool and Dre told me. Right, So Cool and Dre super produces My brother's Terror Squad. They went to LA for a B and My Award, And when they went to LA for the B and My Award, there was a line going in. So they stood online, thinking that's the line to go in. So all of our favorite rap and producers and all that was on that line. As they were going in closer and closer, they realized at the front of the line was Sugar Knight, and everybody was taking off their earrings for lightly, their chains, their watches. Just okay, okay, you know, Cooling Dre they telling you, and I'm talking about yo.

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Speaker 2: Listen kiss Famous friends of ours. You would never believe was on that line. Famous Friends was volunteerily on that line running the jewels. And so the line wasn't to the front door, it was the line to Sugar Knight. Give me your jury so cool and dre looking. They're like, you know, they help tell you they're not gangsta. They were like, okay, we figured we getting robbed. They got the TS chains on their rolex. They go to the front sug Nights like each of them producers guys with Joey and then he was like yeah, you know cool and j They was like, yo, you tell a big homie man. It's all love this and that, just walk in this, this this. So they almost felt like they almost wanted to get robbed with everybody else because everybody else was looking at him like the fix was in, like they was down with the ship.

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Speaker 3: Yo, I'm talking.

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Speaker 2: You had any runnings with Sugar Knight that he tried to like say, yo, can I sign you with some shit?

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Speaker 4: Cuz Sugar called chic Mom's crib when we was in like the when we was young, right before right when the Bad Boy deal was on the table, or.

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Speaker 2: Before you signed it that bad Boy he heard that you would.

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Speaker 3: Signing somebody somehow he heard and we was in.

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Speaker 4: Chiek's crib watching video music box and Sugar called his crib. Lou Chunk must have been like, hold on coming, yo, it's fucking sugar on them for him.

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Speaker 3: So we like what Then he like, I remember they said, Yo, we want to sign. They never even heard us. They just must have because heard about the sign.

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Speaker 4: He's like, yo, y'a could get on the red out of the night with how many people, however many people you want to come over there with?

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Speaker 3: I could fly out to night da da dah. We thought about it. He was like, you can't do that.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't have been when it was all said and done, it wouldn't have been a good look, wouldn't. It might have worked for the men, but it probably wouldn't have worked overall for the you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Not got to represent over.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, you know.

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Speaker 4: But then then after I got on, after after you know him in the game popping everywhere I would come, he would It's like as soon as I get my bags from baggage claim, they was calling them and everywhere I had to be, he was popping up.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't on no ship. He was just he was just everywhere I was at. But it wasn't he wasn't on He wasn't he wasn't on no type time definitely was. I think he already had a relationship with D in them, so he knew. He knew I was gonna go down.

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Speaker 2: And he did have a relationship with D.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he was.

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Speaker 2: He had a relationship, Yeah he did. And he was cool with Earth too.

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Speaker 1: He was cool with a couple of pistol people's hanging out and that lay with him everywhere. Yo, these cuts, this is crazy. These guys hang out together, right, This shit is nuts. But I think about when we talked about hip hop, right, and you know, I come from the birthplace, so when I try to explain the people when we go in to Yah, Yeah, but let yo, Jada, it's not my full I'm born there right, So when you you Muslim, you look at the Mecca where they're walking around the ship, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not my fur.

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Speaker 1: I'm from that place. Melly Meil lived in my neighborhood. Grandmaster Flash live in my neighborhood. Shot Rock first female MC, and my neighborhood. Little Rodney see Ruby D the first Latino MC ever lived in my neighborhood. Love Buck Starsky lived in my neighborhood. All these guys lived in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Mister nests So I'm from the birthplace.

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Speaker 1: So when I talk in my shit, it's kind of hard to argue with me because I'm actually there, like as a little kid. When they see me, they go, little Joey, that's ain't Ju's brother, Little Joey smack me on the head, y'all, I'll keep it moving. It's like, that's how I grew up in hip hop. But I think about I remember the first time I ever saw kar rest One was in Courtland Projects.

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Speaker 2: I shout out sad X and.

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Speaker 1: He had he was this skinny, he had this Bob Marley's shirt on T shirt with the fucking roster hat. He did the South Bronx. I was mesmerized this before we even heard it. By the second time he did it, the whole fucking jem was going South Brock South. He knew the song the second time he did. He did it one time. By the second it was it was pandemonia basic.

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Speaker 2: Right. I'm thinking of who do.

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Speaker 1: You see performed for like the very first time that you seen him ever perform.

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Speaker 4: One time when I was little, my moms came and snatched me off the block. That's how I always like to say, my moms is responsible for my hit myp career one time, late eighties. I'm chilling on the block. We're playing high water lower water when you got to jump over the rope, and they keep crazy.

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Speaker 3: So it's the whole block of summer day.

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Speaker 4: You know, on a day in a summer day in New York is better than anyway. So that's the whole block is playing is let. It's beautiful. My moms come get in the car me.

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Speaker 3: Now. When they get in the car, we have a time.

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Speaker 4: Boy get in now, I'm tight And she's like, yo, a couple of your man's could come and ask they moms get in. She bring me to Mount Vernon Memorial Field. Open the car door, say yo, when you get at this time, meet me back here at the car. I get in, I get in the field. It's the fucking Fat Boys ship was crazy though, I'm like, boys, how the hell did she? And then it was fat boys? It was rapping Duke? Then run rapping the crazy dog run damn she rapping the best that ship was. I'm like, how the fuck? It was no Graham or Nonhing, it was no, it was merely newspapers. I'm like, who gave my moms to call that?

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Speaker 3: This ship was. That ship was probably changed my life right there.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know me and my my brother. You know my uncle Aans you you know he's a pastor now and all that.

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Speaker 2: But he had.

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Speaker 1: Promised us he was gonna take us to that concert in Madison Square Garden that run DMC, the one they say everybody put up the Adidas in the.

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Speaker 3: Air fresh vest.

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Speaker 1: We waited for him in front of the building, like yo, yo, let me tell you something. When you see these movies of kids waiting for the father to come, and they father never come. When I tell you, me and my brother was looking at every fucking headlight coming up the block, hoping.

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Speaker 3: My uncle came.

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Speaker 2: Can I ain't never came.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, my uncle Angel he wasn't even like hip hop like that, so I believed him. We sat in front of the projects waiting for hours, and then all you can hear is the legendary stories about motherfucking lift up all the Adidas and all that.

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Speaker 2: But we maybe we was too young.

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Speaker 1: That shit also got You know, people always like to say, yo, hip hop started peaceful, but every block party y'all went to somebody pulled out a shotgun.

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Speaker 2: And robbed the whole park.

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Speaker 3: So a stampede or.

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Speaker 2: Starting a stampede.

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Speaker 1: Right, So even at first Fest, no matter everything that happened, they said, Brooklyn's in the house, like you know, like they were like, you know, it was going down in that motherfucker. They was throwing dudes over the whole shit. So when it comes to first you know, I was there the first time in New York City we ever seen the eminem And so he opened up for me and Pun at the Lyricists Lounge, the Outsiders group.

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Speaker 2: Out of New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: They brought him out and this man was you knew he was special. And all the dudes got dreadlocks and all that, and he was so skinny. They was holding him by the back of his T shirt so he don't fly off the stage.

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Speaker 2: He was just spitting so crazy of me and Pun.

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Speaker 1: We all looking at each other like, oh my god, it was this white boy, this boy boy crazy.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I was at this thing called Zodiac too. I used to go to over there to the high Bridge now and so we used to go to that club all the time. And I was there the first time I saw Biz Marquee bring how Big Daddy came Big Daddy Kane had the roster shit hack kN Goo to the side, right, And this is when hip hop was hip hop to where you could have been tough if you wanted to be tough, but it was really about loving the hip hop moment. So you know, guys had the Benetton bags and all that shit. And when that man said Big Daddy came went up there, it's like he was like super Calo fregid List.

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Speaker 2: That gets me, I look gotious.

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Speaker 1: I literally seen dudes trying to run up the wall like the fire gravity this one you used to be like, oh and you wilding and shit like that.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was there when Big Daddy came brought out jay Z for the first time.

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Speaker 2: It was in Manhattan. Big Daddy came, brought him out, and jay Z.

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Speaker 1: Starts spitting, and you knew he was special because at the time jay Z water I mean the Big Daddy came water Crown for him to bring a young boy out there in Manhattan to get that boy to spit, you know, So you you know there was there was things like that that was legendary to me. Who I say, of course, I seen Finesse bring out Big l for the first time, you know, Finess had like your fans. Okay, so Faness had fans that would just go. They didn't even want to hear the beat.

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Speaker 2: They didn't hear. They just wanted to go. And they were and the fans almost line themselves up. They be in the crowd lining themselves up just to cheer.

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Speaker 1: They'd be like, Lord, for Neesse is the man that you got to hear, so so they just keep going.

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Speaker 2: That was this fan.

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Speaker 1: And so when Big L came out there and started spitting with for Neess, I was out there in the first show.

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Speaker 2: It was uptown.

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Speaker 1: It was like, that's considered Dominican land now for Marble Hill and all that.

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Speaker 2: By all what they went great? Of course? Me with Big Pun. You know, the Big Pun was just this big, fat Puerto Rican dude like he would wear them hats, like like like did you have fun when he was small?

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Speaker 3: No you didn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Pun big So I'm coming out the bodaga.

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Speaker 1: I'm finishing my second album, like I'm handing in my second album and uh and coming out the bodega and they freestyling, and he's like, yo, yo, let me go to it. Now I know I was set up. At that time.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was like God, a miracle or some ship. Now I know Big Punt set me up. Like he came to my block to rhyme, and he was like, his whole intention was.

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Speaker 1: Like, yo, let's see. In fact, Joe listens to us. So I'm coming from the store. They got a couple of dudes freestyle and they go yo yo, yeah, yo, let me go. He's already semi big, right, so then he do that. Oh since the early page snatched the moon out the sky and blow the sun away. Me and my nigga's playing hardcore, hardcore lyrics till up in it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, no.

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Speaker 3: Stop I had. I did the Jaden whoa stop.

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Speaker 1: No, I had the the Lexus four hundred, the big boy.

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Speaker 2: I opened that door like concierge. The man came up in there and sat down. The whole shit went down, and his crew they looked so sad because it was a group.

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Speaker 1: They looked so sad, like because he was the only one I put in the car. But I pointed at them and I said, your pun the word, We're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Put them on. You gotta worry about you right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bust you out. You're gonna blow up. And then you put your man's on. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: He was like, all right, we're we're and then we just cruise. He told me his whole life story, that's all. You know. What's crazy is puns on me is life story? Right?

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Speaker 1: So I come from selling drugs, dealing with the wildest animals you ever dealt with, the.

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Speaker 2: Complete treason.

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Speaker 1: Of treason, fuck what betrayal, robbers, just people you just can't trust. So I couldn't believe that he was telling me his real life story. The first second I ever met him, he got in the car. One deal he made with me, he said, Yo, man, he said, so Plum was like this real, live, real nigga. But that never really had a crew a pistoleros. He didn't have a crew. I had an army. Since I was in kindergarten. Bro I'm telling you, I got a story. He rec in peace Front there Julio Frontday, my barber for many years, he said, I was five years old. I walked to his barber shop with twenty kids, and he said, he was like, yo, I can't cut your head with these twenty kids. And he said that.

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Speaker 2: I told them all to go outside and wait for me, and they all went outside.

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Speaker 1: And that's when Mike Barber Julio Freint that toeld me. I knew you were the leader. I knew you were going to run this shit. You was five years old telling twenty guys wait outside, right. So the point I'm making this, Pun says, is those terror squad is that gonna be my crew?

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Speaker 3: I said, yes, I knew he was.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm such a fan kids eminem uh nas g rap.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 1: I've studied hip hop so much. I knew I found the illestig in the world. I was like, yes, he says, So they're gonna do what I say. I said, They're gonna They're gonna love you. They're gonna do whatever you say. Oh, I'm in, I'm in.

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Speaker 2: He's like he.

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Speaker 1: Always wanted that army with him, right, And sure enough to this day, they lowy you too.

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Speaker 2: So but we drive. I'll tell you an ill story, he said.

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Speaker 1: Pun tells me a story how he was homeless, nobody he wanted to show his family his bloodline is DNA, that he wasn't gonna be a piece of shit. They always told him he was gonna be a piece of shit. He's telling me this the first man that I met him. I never seen vulnerability like that. But then he tells me this one story. He says, man, I want it. I want to impress my uncle. So I'm saying your uncle. He was like, yeah, man, he said, I got an uncle. He's really rich, he said. And one day I went to him and told him I was hungry. And he went in my hand and he gave me a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Of rocks, rocks like rocks, and told him eat that. So Pun is like, yo, my uncle's rich. I told him I was hungry.

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Speaker 3: He put rocks in my hand.

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Speaker 2: He told me to eat that.

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Speaker 1: So long story short, successful, first Latino, double platinum, filthy rich.

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Speaker 2: Now let me explain Big Pun to you. Big Pun had ten benzes and beamis in front of it. He wouldn't leave out the hood. I was begging him. I was already in Jersey.

00:24:47
Speaker 1: I'm already hearing birds chirping, little kids playing hockey in front of the shit.

00:24:52
Speaker 2: I'm gone, like, hey, he's still in the soft boss.

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Speaker 1: He's still not the soft bron He sounds you everybody know ten benzes. He had a limousine on twenty four hour hole, three hundred and sixty five days. He had a guy a limousine with a driver just sitting in front of the crib twenty four hours a day. Right, little dogs, if he had a first, kids had first. They even got the first for the dogs. And the dogs was from like Europe and some He was the true pedestrian of.

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Speaker 2: Blowing the bag. Big Pun.

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Speaker 1: He like he he couldn't hold on the money. He was just going crazy y he wear He probably was the first rapper.

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Speaker 2: With three Rolex watches on him.

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Speaker 3: Like this guy was out of control with.

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Speaker 1: It, right, so Pun, Unfortunately he passes away. We do the funeral, right, so I rent this big ass funeral in the bronx. We get people to put his whole family's there, so you know how they do the You see the body before everybody. Long story short, his family's there, We all crying. Everybody's crying.

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Speaker 2: The door opens and a man walks in down. See the whole family jump up like like they saw a savior or some shit.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's Pun's bodies right here, right, I'm just saying, I'm looking at oh oh, they was acting like that.

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Speaker 2: You already know what that is. I come from where my uncle is rich, My uncle faure from all the number spots they seen the guy with the bag. They all jumped, all right. So he walks in. He says hi to the family. You know what he says to me, He says, yo, what is this guy doing here? Meanwhile, I pay for the whole fucking funeral my nigga, Like everybody knows it's Joe and Pun. That's like looking at styles of Jada, like what are they doing here? So I'm sitting there like this. He says, what is this guy doing it to his family? And his family say no, no, no, no no. For multiple reasons, Joe paid, and Joe will fucked me up, like you really, you're playing a terrible game right now. On one uncle there, you might get that you might go early downstairs. You don't want that ship right.

00:26:58
Speaker 1: So then the man turned around and do that to me, and I said, yo, I know who you is.

00:27:07
Speaker 2: He was like, oh, you know who I am? I said, yeah, I said you you're the uncle the rich.

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Speaker 3: OK.

00:27:12
Speaker 1: First five minutes I met pun He told me how much of a piece of shit you was, and how he told you he was hungry and you gave him rocks. I said, let me tell you something, man, welcome, I paid for all this at number two. Is your family's about to tell you we will beat the living shit out of you right here now, and they'll drag you out the back of the shit. He shut the fuck up the rest of the funeral, right, No, no, he shut the fuck up the rest of the funeral. And you know it is what it is. I'm you know, but anyway, that.

00:27:47
Speaker 2: Funeral, I'm sure you guys came through Puff came through little Kim mac tan flew in TLC. You know, it was so crazy because you know how you get the flowers in the funeral. I'm reading the flowers. So the flowers is like sent by Eminem. Eminem might have sent seven flowers for the big PONK funeral. Whitney Houston sent like seven flowers like these people we never met. This is like you got to go to the Grammy to meet all these people and all the stars from all over was sending.

00:28:25
Speaker 1: Flowers and I'm reading it and I couldn't believe it, likeoc T Bars walked up in there. Everybody they had so much respect for him. I remember the you know, the Biggie funeral, you know what I'm saying.

00:28:39
Speaker 2: I went to Brooklyn in front of his old crib, and I just was out there in the streets where you see the video of the streets of everybody wilet because I pulled up in front of the funeral and I just felt like I didn't want to see Big like that. But I was across the street from the Frankie Campbell. You went to the big funeral, Yeah, you had to be sad.

00:29:02
Speaker 3: Huh the hell? Yeah?

00:29:04
Speaker 4: I mean that was that shit was traumatizing for me, for us, you know, that was our first time in LA when that shit happened with him. So that wasn't And we made we always loved Big Pop. They played that, they actually played in the funeral. We played it for the mafia and his family, and that's what we only made it for that. We never made it to be released. We only made it to play for them, you know what I mean. Then both end up releasing it with Missing You and yeah, that shit was it?

00:29:39
Speaker 2: Hip hop? What made you get in the game?

00:29:42
Speaker 1: What let you know, this is the reason you're picking up a mic or you writing you know on your paper.

00:29:51
Speaker 4: For me, when I was little, I was always break dancing, doing shit. I was the no one on the block as the little I just was intrigued by it. Boom in my uncle's room, like I said, listening to the fairies five and they used to have park gyms and wio. I was sneaking and all of them joints. One time I went all the way across town to Black heroage day when I was loved on. My mother was gonna wi my.

00:30:20
Speaker 3: Ass, but she saw that I love hip hop so much. I ain't get in trouble. But I should have got how far I went and how young I was. I could have been dead right now. Help me. Saved my life for real. You could say she was gonna kill me.

00:30:37
Speaker 4: I was just sitting on them on the fucking hill, looking at the niggas performing.

00:30:43
Speaker 1: And what I say is that that's similar to me. I remember the first time heard ever being rock him with the don't done, don't boom, don't boo And we went to the we went to what's called now where a boogey and is from right, But at that time it was on University Avenue. We had to take like two three trains from the five and two to the four and then you get off at Burns Side and you got to walk up.

00:31:13
Speaker 3: That big ass hill.

00:31:15
Speaker 2: This is one thing.

00:31:16
Speaker 1: You drive that hill. You walk that motherfucker. Oh my god. Like it felt like the Warriors when you when you like. And so we on the other side. It's almost like being in California, you know, from where I'm from. At that time, we ain't no, no, call, ain't no. We taking trains for hours.

00:31:39
Speaker 2: And that's where we saw the Wop for the first time.

00:31:41
Speaker 1: And they was playing that shit boom but on them and back in the days, you know, and we studying them and we're trying to do the dance. We took that bitch back home. That next day we went to the park jam. They doing that Eric being rock camera. We started doing the wop. Everybody start studying the WAP. I mean, you know, back in that day, it was more word of mouth.

00:32:05
Speaker 3: Yes, the only way is word of mouth or the phone with it.

00:32:11
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

00:32:12
Speaker 1: That made me think of an l story, right, and so part of being a great storyteller is you tell your wins and you tell your losses.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

00:32:23
Speaker 1: You got to be able to if you know, you gotta have the people tune in where they feel like they there.

00:32:30
Speaker 2: Right. So, I come from a project called Godsville, right So also it was like the mecca of the five percentus. So everybody I was the God Crack Kim great God our law show. I'm telling you what it is, right Crack. You gotta yo, listens, you gotta think. You gotta think this. Listen, Yo, you gotta think. There's no other way to do it. You gotta think.

00:33:05
Speaker 1: Everybody, go check out this movie back in the day is called Fresh.

00:33:09
Speaker 2: You gotta think Chuck.

00:33:10
Speaker 4: Remember Fresh Bust, the funky dope move, but think Chucky from Fresh Dunst Ferry right now. We felt because because I ain't my man, my man that's in Fresh to Fresh. He used to work out with us, he moved, he moved to Cali. Now but when we got got to feed him, I gotta meet Chucky. We didn't meet and we just found him. He said, does Faery.

00:33:34
Speaker 2: So you ain't Chucky? If you watch this show, come on, I gotta meet Chucky. So Fajo is Chucky for French. There's no way in real life that's what he was. The fucking yo one OF's we bust the stupid that that was just dope. Where's the guy starting in trouble, always getting in trouble, always trying to do too much, always trying.

00:33:53
Speaker 1: To, you know, wile out, just every fucking time. Right, And so I grew up my projects. Ninety black, ten percent Puerto Rican.

00:34:07
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

00:34:07
Speaker 1: So the gods being there and I'm Chucky for fresh, they like, yo, get the fuck up out of here. They building trying to do decipher I'm saying hams, lemon and bacon, or I'm fucking with everybody. Right, So you got the gods from Section five Clark City, Patterson projects. All the gods know they come to My projects was the mecca Godsville, and he was the little I was the annoying fat Puerto Rican nigga that woul fuck with everybody.

00:34:34
Speaker 2: He said, Yo, you ain't godbody, but you know you.

00:34:36
Speaker 3: Being witnessed god.

00:34:38
Speaker 2: The god cried, Yeah, I'm the god crack camp great God Allah, y'all know what's right. So if you want the picture, this is what it is. Right. So now they had some shit in Manhattan, Right, they had some shit in Manhattan. I'm gonna tell y'all true story. Don't get mad at me. Bronx they had this shit called Marcha din Glory.

00:35:02
Speaker 1: Shouldn't even listen to this story because this is like this was like, you know, Marts of Dime was raising money.

00:35:08
Speaker 3: In this the thing with the change in.

00:35:12
Speaker 1: But at the end, just before you go to the ferry to Staten Island, whatever that is, battery whatever that shit is down there.

00:35:19
Speaker 2: So one day we said, because Brooklyn used to be there deep, So.

00:35:23
Speaker 1: One day we told the whole entire Bronx, the whole entire Bronx that.

00:35:32
Speaker 2: Were going down there. And I ain't gonna lie. And you say, they was twenty thirty forty thousand black dudes. They have one fat Spanish nigga read I was. You might as well say I was surfing on it on the trick. Yeah, it was something. The big nigga is South. I'm like.

00:35:52
Speaker 1: Chucky from Fresh Like, I'm like on ten thousand. Right, So we get out to every train. It was like the Warriors was just thousands, hundreds of guys from the Bronx, from co Op city, the valley all way down to Pattison.

00:36:11
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody got the.

00:36:14
Speaker 1: Memo we going down there, right, So we get out the train and Battery Park South Bros South, South bra South Bronx is I mean thousands of us South Bronx right next thing, you know, as we're getting closer to the park, I started hearing like South Bronx, South South Bronx, southron and I'm still like, yay, South Brown South, and man, we get to this park and what I don't think we relied on is people having cousins in Brooklyn, right, So they must have told Brooklyn the Bronx was coming out there. And geographically Brooklyn it's like seven times bigger than the Bronx. If we had twenty thousand, they had a hundred thousand Brooklyn in the house, Brooklyn, you know. And then I ain't gonna lie the base in the Bronx voice really talk.

00:37:15
Speaker 3: Man.

00:37:15
Speaker 1: We got it popping instantly. It was just the Bronx against Brooklyn. We fighting all over. I see all these guys who I thought was the toughest guys getting hit. They would hit you with the fucking frank for the man, the frank for the truck.

00:37:31
Speaker 2: They they pounding you out, they do, they throw the whole fucking truck on you. Like this ship was bad out there, like yo were taking a beat. I just see niggas, nigga everybody's getting pressed. We fight, of course, we got you know, Bronce got the realists. You know, we out there fighting thousand people.

00:37:54
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. I'm sure there was some other Puerto Ricans, but man, they was scarce. I mean, the Brooklyn definitely saw the fat Puerto Rican do going all out fighting everybody that. It was just we had to get the fuck up out.

00:38:08
Speaker 2: Of there bad.

00:38:09
Speaker 3: No.

00:38:10
Speaker 2: I mean you just see every the god, this one, that one, this, everybody was shoot shooting past motherfuckers. It was just they was just way too deep and we went over there super deep. But I guess that's like the Great Adventures of like being a kid without a car rolling with your projects somewhere catching the hell where do you go to with your projects? That it got a little bit too uh.

00:38:37
Speaker 4: I never lived in the projects, but my neighborhood was just as fucking fucked up as the project.

00:38:45
Speaker 3: But like Halloween.

00:38:46
Speaker 4: Knights oooh, they used to have ships where every one whole side of town and just.

00:38:54
Speaker 3: Mad projects in mad blocks. Just get together and go somewhere and do some crazy.

00:39:00
Speaker 2: You know.

00:39:01
Speaker 1: I did that. I used that one time. I was a young kid hustling selling drugs. I know that that's not popular to say, no, I'm not co signing. But they didn't use them. I remember, that's a fact. I remember right. It was one Halloween and they had these dudes. I had this little crackspot. It was clicking, and these dudes were fucking grown men, right they you know, I'm only fourteen, thirteen fourteen, and I got a spot and it's clicking. So these guys were grown men, and they came through and they just set up shop in the park and they was like, yo, shorty man, you dad, Like like I'm telling you the truth, Yo, you dead on this shit, Like like come on, man, this and I'm only like thirteen fourteen.

00:39:50
Speaker 2: But my projects used to get together for Halloween.

00:39:55
Speaker 1: It was hundreds of us and we go to everybody else's projects with socks with this yes, so it happened to be Halloween, right, and they was super deep and I told everybody, yo, I'm gonna give you the signal, y'all come around the corner.

00:40:14
Speaker 2: Dude, Yo, I'm thirteen.

00:40:20
Speaker 1: I walk up to these dudes, they grown men, and I'm like, yo, y'all can't plump out here.

00:40:24
Speaker 2: They're like what, like, Yo, didn't we tell you what this? I was like, hey, yo, they just came around the corner. The whole project looked like Halloween.

00:40:34
Speaker 1: The nigga with socks, with this this. Niggas like, yo, they were you. I said, yes, this is my crew.

00:40:41
Speaker 2: Like what y'all niggas want out here?

00:40:43
Speaker 3: Man?

00:40:43
Speaker 1: Them boys left that spot so fast, man that I think the project ain't No. I used them to run these guys out of here. These guys were grown men, thirty years old.

00:40:54
Speaker 2: Shit. When I say yo, hundreds of guys came with the face the ain't it the socks. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, we out. Don't worry about it. We won't come back over here no more. This this day.

00:41:05
Speaker 1: I use Halloween a couple of times. Nah, you know the city is all.

00:41:14
Speaker 4: One time I blocked. We was hustling because we startstle together. So I lived in the middle of the block. I came out like in the evening one time like no, I'm catching like the sundown shift. So I come out. I had a I probably had a hundred couple hundred pieces on me. Come out, dap, everybody up, go put my pack in the building, like to come out.

00:41:45
Speaker 2: What's up?

00:41:45
Speaker 3: Crack? Put my my man. And this is the crazy.

00:41:48
Speaker 4: He's Mary's cousin. He's the one who actually passed the demo. It's Jay Bop my man Jamaco. He actually passed the demo to Mary. That went the puff. That got a sign. So fast forward, I come, I come out the crib, shot it ready to knock my work off. Put it in the put it in the middle building up in the elevated thing. Come out two seconds. Somebody ol, somebody come, they want something. Custody I go back is gone now. I'm like my man, I said, buck you it's no way it was when I.

00:42:27
Speaker 3: Tell you was this fat.

00:42:29
Speaker 4: I came out that put the pack of the building and went outside them.

00:42:33
Speaker 3: Yo, let me get something.

00:42:34
Speaker 4: Went back nothing to me, Yeah you got my pack, And we almost had We got down to like nose to know.

00:42:41
Speaker 3: He like, I haven't got your ship, and I'm like, you got it? Has no ways nobody. Yeah, I'm not taking no for hints. So we all got like heated.

00:42:52
Speaker 4: They calmed it down, but I still I can't sleep cause.

00:42:56
Speaker 3: I'm like I went to the house and got some, but I'm like this, my whole night was fucked up. Oh yeah, so we chilling.

00:43:06
Speaker 4: A few hours later, always come a smoger come out.

00:43:11
Speaker 3: Did you have them green bags? They having a party in depths. I was with.

00:43:15
Speaker 2: I said, oh, he was like, who's pumping the dang bags?

00:43:19
Speaker 4: So now we got to the bottom of it. My man nut recipe alive, Peanut, Tobie's alive. We have killed peanuts, stole the ship.

00:43:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have killed them. Not you know, I was the bathroom on the solf. Webliterated them when we told something.

00:43:46
Speaker 1: I was way too young in the streets doing the ship I was doing. Of course when I got old, they was like, really not fair for people. But I was way too young, so they I get it. While Nick, he was trying me because it was like, yo, this guy's thirteen fourteen out here, really trying to show this one. I remember, Nah, we did some foul shit. It was like this crackhead I had a cellphone me but he was seven feet tall, still.

00:44:14
Speaker 2: Had size this this that, so he dead me, Oh, he dead it, yo, bro, I'm not lying to you. He deaded me.

00:44:22
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, I ain't got your money, this, this, that. So now I'm I'm like, with like three or four, my man's with me, right. We're still all little dudes though, But so I'm like, let me tell you, snitching never sat right with me, never ever, ever, ever ever sat right with me and letting somebody get one up on me. Never ever to this day, I don't think there's somebody who got one up on me right physically meaning right. So he's down there, he pumping me over here, and I'm telling him Yoda beat me for like one hundred dollars and he ain't coming next to us and nothing like this. So they was like, word, let's pound them out.

00:45:06
Speaker 2: God.

00:45:06
Speaker 1: I'm like yo, I'm like yo, let's pound them out right. So the dude was addicted to gambling. So we went and took like three rocks. We ain't even have dice. We down the block. We act like we gambling. We throwing the rocks against the shit. See though, y'all thing whatever, this niggle come over. We put the beats on this guy. So body slammed this dude we pounded them out. So legend and so you know where I put in this shit is reel. Was like one time I went I went to see my aunt stuck up my cousin. Yeah, come on, come on, come on, when I put on the shit is real primo. Addition, one time I went to see my aunt stuck up my cousin.

00:45:52
Speaker 2: Right.

00:45:54
Speaker 1: So, now it wasn't me. I don't want to say nobody's business, but one of my my uncle, he got beat right, So he gave somebody some work.

00:46:05
Speaker 2: They didn't pay him back. This, this, that. So he calls me, he says, you know it's my cousin. This is my uncle, and my cousin was a grown ass man. I'm fourteen fifteen, right, So my uncle calls me and says, yo, that work you gave me our cousin such and such.

00:46:22
Speaker 3: He beats you.

00:46:23
Speaker 2: He told HI about he ain't paying this nigga was way too big for us. Nuck a grown many my own cousin. Right, he did you know you fourteen? You trying to give thus work?

00:46:34
Speaker 3: You think you're cool.

00:46:35
Speaker 2: These guys are twenty eight thirty years old. They don't give a fuck about what you're saying.

00:46:39
Speaker 3: He was young enough to knock off your own work.

00:46:41
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what happened. So I walk in, This is a true story.

00:46:46
Speaker 1: I walk into my aunt's house and that dude is gambling in the hallway. He's getting he's my cousin. We put the beats on him, so legend, legend, in front.

00:46:57
Speaker 3: Of the whole hood.

00:47:00
Speaker 5: So legend, yo, so legends shooting dice.

00:47:05
Speaker 2: We pounded him out. To this day, I don't even feel right when I see him at funerals and all that, because he talks to me, but he knows what we get to him. So legend. No, I'm telling I'm telling you the truth. I see him. He's my he's my cousin. You know.

00:47:22
Speaker 1: He spoke at my father's funeral recently, Like yo, Ernesto was you know this?

00:47:27
Speaker 2: But he caught, he had to. I never let him. I never let him. There's this guy. Let me tell you something. By there's this guy. I wrote about it in my book, The Book of Jose.

00:47:37
Speaker 1: This guy and they know want talking about I gotta say it because I said this in the thing. But his name was monkey Face Carlos. Monkey Face Carlos was a killer.

00:47:50
Speaker 3: You hear me?

00:47:52
Speaker 2: Yes, he was an alleged.

00:47:54
Speaker 1: Killer, because I don't know where he's at, but he was there with Chicky for selling Boulevard and all these these guys is the most dangerous crew in the Bronx. Don't let nobody lie to you. These guys, they're underneath the jail.

00:48:06
Speaker 2: They told him that.

00:48:07
Speaker 1: The judge told him, please don't guys, yo, I want to snatch on another.

00:48:11
Speaker 2: Body for who Chicky? Please, We're not doing no.

00:48:14
Speaker 1: More chicky stories, like we don't want no more about it. Like they underneath the.

00:48:18
Speaker 2: Jail, right, the realist guys ever in the Bronx.

00:48:23
Speaker 1: That's just no other way to explain it to you. Right, he's one of them. So he's going out with a girl from my building. Right, So of course you know I'm young. I got the work, So I tell him, I said, yo, monkey, yo, I got some work. When he was like, yo, give me five hundred face. Carlos had the green eyes they know what I'm talking.

00:48:43
Speaker 3: About, and looked like a monkey. Though.

00:48:46
Speaker 1: No, he was actually a fairly handsome guy, but that was just what they called him. And he was way advanced for me. I'm only fourteen. He's he's like they putting the work legend out there, right. Well, he go with the girl in my building. So I've been calling him and he don't pick up the phone, right, So he walk out my building and I ain't gonna lie him. I'm still just a kid, right, So he walk up my building. I'm like, yo, yo, yo, your call or something.

00:49:18
Speaker 2: I've been calling you.

00:49:19
Speaker 1: He was like yeah for what. I was like, you know that shit I give you? He was like, oh you dead on that shit? Like you like that?

00:49:26
Speaker 3: Though?

00:49:26
Speaker 2: Man, I swear to God, man sayo, niggas is crazy, dude, they know what they fucking went here.

00:49:32
Speaker 3: Man.

00:49:33
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm looking at him. I'm just a kid, but I'm like he was like, oh you you want? Oh you dead on that shit? And he keeps walking and I'm watching him. It's turning like whatever they call that twilight, it's turning the dark, and I watched him. Why while he's walking down the block, I'm talking to myself, my conscience. I said, man, you pussy this nigga played you. You just suck a nigga like you let this guy beat you this.

00:50:01
Speaker 1: And so I'm talking to myself, right, So he gets like a blockdown almost by Diamond.

00:50:06
Speaker 2: D Building and I said, yo, monkey. He turned around. He was like, what say?

00:50:12
Speaker 3: No?

00:50:12
Speaker 2: One second? One second? So I'm jogging over there, damn monkey, Yo, check this out. I got some work. Whoa my deft? This dude right, he fall on the floor. Pound them out, legend, legend, he's on the floor, pound it out.

00:50:30
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. Thank god he ain killed me. He and come back with the mob. Thank god he ain't do none of that. But I was so impressed with my courage to stand up to this guy. I could not believe he was just what So I never you know, it never been the thing to me, you know what I mean? Like to get played like that, get beat and the snitching, It doesn't exist.

00:50:59
Speaker 3: Revenge is serve, however the fuck you want to serve? Its smoken you heard. Revenge is of what a dish serve? However you want to serve?

00:51:11
Speaker 1: However, you wouldn't year hear that's a good one. Revengers a dish serve? H oh man leftovers? You want to get your revenge on you? Oh yeah, I mean I could never live with that man. I couldn't live with you know, anybody trying to play with me.

00:51:34
Speaker 2: I said, one.

00:51:34
Speaker 1: Time I come out Jimmy's cafe, the guy. You know this guy too. I'm telling you the story about I come out of Jimmy's Cafe and I don't know why because I'm always there. But he come out of jail. I've seen him with y'all right. You know, I'm just saying he's not a member of your crew, but I've seen him. But he's a well respected guy from the Bronx. He's not pussy. But he looked at me and he was like, or they let you there? And I'm like, he just came on from jail, right, but all these oh my god. So he comes on from jail right, So I guess he's thinking, like, you know, he's tough now with something, and so he's like, oh, they let you in here. I said what you mean, and he said, nah, you could still be in the hood like you ain't supposed to be either.

00:52:22
Speaker 2: So I smack his cheek off in the bathroom.

00:52:25
Speaker 1: Dude, one second, no, I'm telling you I could. I gave him that fire cry boom. Then he tried to act up outside. I finished it off outside and really pounded him out.

00:52:39
Speaker 2: Legend. You know what I'm saying, I ain't gonna lie. Ain't seeing for years till I seen the locks with him somewhere. I said, he still think he talk? Who is this guy? They'll show you now if you say your name, I don't need to put you. I tell you in your ear. Nah, you started like the tenth grade. Trust me.

00:52:59
Speaker 3: He wasn't with me.

00:53:00
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't. We y'all. I'm just saying he's considered a real guy. He's just I'm just telling you truth. He caught the air.

00:53:10
Speaker 1: His sister had to jump in. Who was well respected you know what I'm talking about in the streets. She jumped in, like, Joe, that's my brother. Please know this. I'm just And it was that I just can't tolerate the disrespect, like you know, like.

00:53:22
Speaker 2: I never Let's just get off that subject. They come up with the the duos. I was thinking about the best groups of all time. Groups. You're not waiting to.

00:53:43
Speaker 5: Know.

00:53:43
Speaker 4: We did duos, duos, complex did duos.

00:53:50
Speaker 3: What have we done, ladies, ladies.

00:53:55
Speaker 1: We ain't do the biggest, the best groups of all time. But there's some groups this duos, and then there's some groups this groups.

00:54:06
Speaker 2: I don't think you called them by.

00:54:07
Speaker 4: The by they running out of ship to make up, so they broke down two men groups.

00:54:13
Speaker 3: Then next day it come with three men groups and then come with.

00:54:17
Speaker 1: How about them guys? We did the show with what's what the five twenty boys. They brought out the lebron h Jordan like that. There's some there's some ships that everybody keep playing into that. It's like that ship never gonna get old. You know you ain't fucking with the groups today. You don't feel like it. You got the past down.

00:54:37
Speaker 3: Ship did the duos. We don't need to do the trios the next month. Let's do something else.

00:54:45
Speaker 1: Top three posse cuts of all time, we can do five, but you know this guy don't want to do it.

00:54:52
Speaker 4: We can do five top five as long as didn't know.

00:54:59
Speaker 3: What's it all doing his participate this ship is him.

00:55:06
Speaker 2: Stand to let it be known that he's with me. This is my business partner. Don't let him. He gonna get me fucked up out of rock the bells, I'm gonna get pound out. He he's gonna paund me out at the right They're gonna be seen the next little fucking what they do when they do them little cartoons. What they call that ship sketches. They're gonna show Joe running from the rock the bells concert rock him ready to hit me with a stick of something. What what top five Possey cuts. You want to start or I start?

00:55:37
Speaker 3: I go first?

00:55:38
Speaker 2: Oh I knew you wanted to go first.

00:55:40
Speaker 3: You gotta go first.

00:55:41
Speaker 2: I knew you wanted to go first on this.

00:55:44
Speaker 3: Stop the violet number what stop the violets?

00:55:50
Speaker 4: Help the self destruction destruction, self destruction, I'm going with that.

00:55:54
Speaker 3: I'll get that out the way. First thing.

00:55:56
Speaker 1: I never knew why we never had a self destruction too need it. But the little kid got killed from Philly. He did it over.

00:56:05
Speaker 4: I mean destruction, the scenario remix. I could have took.

00:56:12
Speaker 2: What's that one heard that's what you say?

00:56:16
Speaker 4: Oh no, is when you heard you say, oh no, you.

00:56:23
Speaker 3: Alright?

00:56:23
Speaker 4: When I got self destruction scenario remix, I'm cooking with fucking breach right now, now.

00:56:28
Speaker 5: Right now, you had a control the symphony. That my god, I'm leaving you with nothing in there.

00:56:42
Speaker 3: That's three.

00:56:42
Speaker 2: I'm leaving the right lie you he took my that's my number one.

00:56:46
Speaker 3: Saying no, no, no, you started it. Okay, that's my number. It don't say no, I'm got two more lets.

00:56:54
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I would have went that. That would have that was the only.

00:56:56
Speaker 2: Time of my list.

00:56:58
Speaker 3: Scenario he fucked up, myself destructured.

00:57:02
Speaker 2: He sucked up.

00:57:05
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna hear you don't give up. I'm not I'm not even gonna use me.

00:57:12
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use you.

00:57:13
Speaker 4: I let you use me. Verbal intercourse right number fall Yeah, I'm smoking that head. No no, no, you're doing now coming back to symphony. I didn't think you was gonna do that. Skinning out a hand?

00:57:30
Speaker 3: What's my for right now?

00:57:31
Speaker 4: Self destruction scenario symphony verbal inter course.

00:57:38
Speaker 3: Just let me finishing off with a bro. I shot you.

00:57:48
Speaker 2: It put me in the game. I shot you, I shot you, put me.

00:57:54
Speaker 3: I shot you.

00:57:55
Speaker 4: Self destruction scenario be mixed just symphonies.

00:58:00
Speaker 3: Ship and what was this ship in Windo? I left ships out for you. Yeah, I left you ship.

00:58:07
Speaker 1: Now I'm going Benjamin's okay. Then I'm going live at the barbecue. Then I'm going band from TV.

00:58:21
Speaker 3: And did he gonna He's gonna pray freak?

00:58:24
Speaker 4: It's MOI shits though, I'm just looking I got hold on, don't give us this.

00:58:31
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It's John blaizefter that it's what. I don't say nothing. It is what it is.

00:58:40
Speaker 4: I know what it is.

00:58:41
Speaker 2: What's the least?

00:58:42
Speaker 3: I mean three of its five? I mean three. I love who to death.

00:58:48
Speaker 1: You are one of the greatest rappers and fucking ciphers ever.

00:58:53
Speaker 2: You fucking took my ship. Tell me now you got.

00:59:01
Speaker 5: Guy and he got John Blade all Shimer is John Blade sign man from TV in the Benjamins.

00:59:07
Speaker 3: He said, Oh, so you got four? You need one more?

00:59:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one. That's why I'm stuck in the reservoir. I mean, I'm stuck in muddy waters.

00:59:19
Speaker 3: Just said it. You just said it.

00:59:20
Speaker 2: Hold up, wait a minute.

00:59:22
Speaker 3: Up putting me in five with my fourth, make me four out of five? Man, let me get you one.

00:59:27
Speaker 4: Reservoir dogs niggas done started something.

00:59:32
Speaker 3: It's man, though, what you want?

00:59:34
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm thinking of. You want to keep flavoring raising your air remix. That's it.

00:59:39
Speaker 3: That's it, that's it.

00:59:40
Speaker 2: That's the file.

00:59:41
Speaker 3: That was his good five.

00:59:42
Speaker 2: What's my father again? Because this guy took aller.

00:59:45
Speaker 3: Yo put the ring on this post. When you put it flavoring.

00:59:48
Speaker 1: Air remix he's doing. I get more butt than that, says fucking fair one.

00:59:53
Speaker 2: Not the ski mask. Wait, damn the do you know? Do you know from Hans A.

00:59:58
Speaker 4: Little birdie told me that verse that Big is talking about Craig mac on his own soul.

01:00:04
Speaker 2: I heard about that, nah, I heard about.

01:00:07
Speaker 3: It and recipes style you bound to get dropped?

01:00:11
Speaker 2: Would you get? You bound to get dropped? Damn?

01:00:15
Speaker 1: I mean the same thing happened with Cannabis and loll when he put him on that other joint.

01:00:19
Speaker 2: That was that was a great song. But I don't think it makes the type.

01:00:24
Speaker 1: I don't think it makes the first five like when he said the first five scenario and then you know that was a good one. But that wasn't That wasn't our shots. It wasn't but that Cannabis l All battle. Who you thought was winning that at the prime of that battle right there?

01:00:42
Speaker 3: I didn't like.

01:00:43
Speaker 4: That was the start of our demise with this comparison ship because it's a young, a young aspiring rapidly being have a career, going that battle with the first person I ever signed to death?

01:00:58
Speaker 3: Jim? Is that right? We should have never let that happen. It was a flag. But we like negative and we like controversy so much. He went to the army. He went, he went military.

01:01:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, cannabis went to the military man to.

01:01:19
Speaker 3: The military man, and he done. He's super nice.

01:01:22
Speaker 1: If there was anybody the big pun wanted to smoke with, it was cannabis. You wanted to want to smoke with Cannon because you know, respected.

01:01:35
Speaker 3: Went left. Harlem went to his album release party and jolioed.

01:01:40
Speaker 2: Them on cannabis. Yeah, what for?

01:01:43
Speaker 3: He was his name? He said, it's something a bottom in the rhyme. You so much his album, partying with his album at least.

01:01:52
Speaker 2: I never liked the care rest through PM doing off the stage. I used to love PM dog bro. I didn't like that. There was certain ships that we didn't like.

01:02:01
Speaker 4: Were supposed to say nothing about Chris though man the teachers.

01:02:05
Speaker 2: Did he say something about Chris PM doing?

01:02:07
Speaker 3: He had to.

01:02:08
Speaker 4: He went on stages. The power would threw his ass off. He had to do some serious violation.

01:02:14
Speaker 3: For him to do that.

01:02:16
Speaker 1: Damn God, without you. I used to love that shit. Right this ship bro Yo, I fucked with BM doing.

01:02:28
Speaker 3: He passed away.

01:02:29
Speaker 2: He ain't passed away. Rest in peace, PM doing.

01:02:32
Speaker 1: I remember Finesse had to be for my man's the funky Man over there and.

01:02:39
Speaker 2: In Jersey, I lived for the Funk.

01:02:41
Speaker 3: I died for the mister Funk.

01:02:43
Speaker 2: Him and Finesse had to wrap battle. Yeah they're super cool, No, they mad cool.

01:02:50
Speaker 1: Sometimes. I was just with fifty cent. We got all that, had all that history with him. You know, you respect people when you go to war with them and you see like you like, you know, fifty Cent just told me this shit too many? You say, yo, you know, the beef was never with you. He said you just too loyal. He said, you too loyal, and you just took the side because you made music with him. But I swear to god, he just told me this one day ago. He was like, yo, to me, I never really had real beef with you. It was just you know, you jump. And then somebody told me think about it now.

01:03:24
Speaker 2: Somebody told me, like, I try to get two rappists to squash the.

01:03:30
Speaker 1: Beef, big time rappits. I have one ready to squash it, and this ain't fifty cent y'all. I had one ready to squash it. I went to see the other in this house, and you know what he told me, Yo, Joe, why would I squash this because every time I just say they name or this them, I go viral. There's no way I'm going to squash that.

01:03:52
Speaker 2: You believe that people.

01:03:56
Speaker 1: Keep problems because they know if they say your name, they're going viral or to matter. And so the guy told me, why would I squash the beef? Every time I want to go viral, I just say fuck these guys, yo. They the game is fucked up, man. The chemistry of the game is it's crazy. But I mean, think about it, right, you know what I'm saying. We started with Jimmy and then now he's on the world tour about you know what I'm saying him, And I don't think nas even responded.

01:04:28
Speaker 2: Right, responding with a casino.

01:04:32
Speaker 1: Responded with a that was bad, yo, casino. Do you know what one percent of a casino is? Twenty five? And I'm sure he got more than that. I'm just saying, Yeah, he responded with a casino.

01:04:49
Speaker 3: We're gonna wrap up with that.

01:04:51
Speaker 2: Yeah. Let me tell you something.

01:04:54
Speaker 3: We we are.

01:04:56
Speaker 2: We are rock Nation.

01:04:57
Speaker 1: Every time I throw that had something for jay Z, he'd be like out of Monaco with a great or five thousand to eight uh to this and like I'll be like, yo, this guy he says the wood that I step.

01:05:09
Speaker 2: On this a million dollars. I'm like, yo, we can't say ship about this guy.

01:05:14
Speaker 4: That was Wan's bill. It's the most average spent on dykman.

01:05:22
Speaker 3: One.

01:05:23
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Nas took a page out of his whose book with this one when he just said, okay, perfect time and you promoted the casino.

01:05:33
Speaker 2: Here you go.

01:05:34
Speaker 1: And on that note, we're the biggest in the motherfucking game. Shoe crack, hold on, what is it?

01:05:40
Speaker 2: It's cracked, it's kiss this ain't that, that ain't.

01:05:46
Speaker 1: And the motherfucking train is coming. Let me tell you something, man, y'all see what's going on out there. Man, y'all see subscribe, do whatever you want to do, like share subscribe that damn you see. So you do know what's going on out there. You don't know what you said.

01:06:02
Speaker 3: I don't know what on the rocky.

01:06:05
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, man, like share, subscribe, whatever the fucking shit is. Listen, it's the inevitable. If y'all want smoke, kid at us. If you don't, it is what it is.

01:06:15
Speaker 2: But the train keep coming, baby the train. Now see this shit. Everything we talk about superviral. It's no way to stop it. Brother,