Hour 2 – Ross Dellenger, Mike Tannenbaum

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I try not to get caught up in the minutia. I just want to know what are the real numbers here, because agents will give you numbers and then all of a sudden you go, well, you know, best case scenario that that might be the contract. We'll get to your phone calls eight seven seven three DP Show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp show. Good morning, if you're watching on Peacock or NBC Sports Network or listening on our radio affiliates around the country, including iHeartRadio and Fox Sports Radio. You know, the college football, college basketball, the whole conference that they had at the White House on Friday and the president there. You had fifty esteemed individuals who were there representing different different entities. You know, you have former coaches, you have TV executives. I wanted to know why not have a current coach and or current player or players because you are talking about them. Ross Dellinger, covering the event on Friday, Who's Sports senior college football reporter, What was your biggest takeaway from this on Friday?

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Speaker 4: Ross, Dan, I noticed that you let out an exhaustive sigh as you started to talk before you started talking about this event, and I would say that plenty of people in attendance probably had a similar sign after it wrapped up. You know, I think the goal of this event, Dan, was to bring attention to the issue by gathering all these important people, these dignitaries at the White House in front of the President. So I think there was a goal of number one, bringing attention to the issue, and number two, by way of bringing attention to it, maybe you put pressure on congressional lawmakers to push something through college sports bill through the Congress, which is what the president want has SETI once, and I think actually it accomplished goal one. It certainly got people talking and had attention brought to it. Whether we'll get a college sports bill from it, I'm not sure. There's a fight in the Senate over a bill and a fight in.

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Speaker 5: The House right now.

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Speaker 4: And there's a bill that probably could get to the floor of the House to govern college athletics as soon as next week, but I don't know that it'll pass. There's confidence it'll pass the House, there's not confidence, as we learned during the roundtable on Friday at the White House, that it will pass the Senate.

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Speaker 5: So still a lot of hurdles.

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Speaker 4: And of course, one of the things we've found out that was a little bit of a surprise Dan was the President saying he'll issue another executive order to govern college athletics. Not sure what will be in that, but he already issued one back in the summer and it hasn't changed much about anything.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not sure how this one will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if I'm wrong, tell me. But an executive order can't make a law, provide anti trust exemptions, or override state laws or policies. In the executive order, they can be challenged in court. So I don't know what's going to come out of this, if anything. But were are there any ideas any initiatives that were actually brought up in this roundtable?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Not anything novel or groundbreaking.

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Speaker 4: There was a good amount of time spent discussing the Score Act, the college sports bill that's in the House that has twice failed to get to the floor because they didn't have the votes. And again that I think next week or maybe for the following week, we will see that finally move. There was a lot of talk about the Score Act, and then there's a lot of talk from the President specifically about the judicial system, which you could tell he has sort of a vendetta against because of rulings that have come against him the last a few months or so. So he he sort of blamed college sports current situation on on judges and on their on their rulings. Uh So, No, they get back to your question, not a whole lot of novel concepts that that we learned. Uh, just college sports folks sitting around with the president, uh, plainning about judges and hoping for something to happen in Congress.

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Speaker 2: Why not a current coach or current players? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think a group of a small group of media.

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Speaker 4: We got a few questions and at the very end and someone did ask the president why there wasn't a current college athlete on the panel, And he turned to Randy Levine, who's the Yankees president, who actually put together sort of put together the roundtable and said that while there's no current athlete now around this specific roundtable, that in the future, as this group continues, there will be athlete voices sort of joining, and apparently the group will continue, maybe not as big. They're going to break off into sort of like a smaller subgroup I don't know, three, five, ten people to continue working with the legislature. That's the thing, Dan, that you you read all that's accurate about the president in an executive order, he can't do a whole lot There's not a whole lot of power there need. You need congressional actions. So this small subgroup of the roundtable will work with lawmakers to try to shape college sports legislation that you know, grants conferences in the NCAAA the power to enforce their rules, preempts these state in il laws and deems athletes is not employees.

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Speaker 5: That's sort of the three main things they want.

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Speaker 4: To happen now for the casual fan, Dan, part of what they want is an anti trust exemption to enforce their rules around transfers in the cap, the salary cap that we have now in college college athletics in the movement just the movement of people transferring in eligibility standards. So that's how the casual fan might eventually see a bill come to fruition. Is much pressure from all these eligibility cases that we've seen in the movement of transfers in college athletics.

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Speaker 2: What role does Nick Saban play?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think he's he's got a pretty big voice, number one, and for whatever reason, the President wants him to play a very big role. He was you know, there was this commission or this roundtable that was put together with something last springing almost a year ago, that kind of got out publicly, and the President wanted Nick Sabor to chare it, and Nick actually didn't really didn't want to be involved, and so somehow he got talked.

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Speaker 5: Into being involved.

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Speaker 4: Now at this at this roundtable, he certainly got a big voice, and the President wants to be once him involved. And you know, if you listen to Nick Saban, you know he's You've got a lot of good ideas.

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Speaker 5: I think he's he's got other ideas that.

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Speaker 4: Some athlete rights folks may disagree with as far as the restrictions imposed on athletes.

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Speaker 5: And that's the real argument here.

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Speaker 4: Dan and That's why Congress can't get a bill through is because you have most Republicans that are leaning toward the NCAA sort a side and more restrictions on athletes and more control for the NCAAA, and a democratic side wants more control and freedom for athletes. But right now that control and freedom is, as the college administrators might say, out of control, right and so they want some kind of rules of regulation. So you have this fight going on between Republican Democrats that I don't see getting resolved anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: College football in better shape now or ten years.

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Speaker 4: Ago, since since the athletes are getting some kind of conversation right now from the multi billion dollar business that is college.

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Speaker 5: Football, you have to say that's in a better situation.

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Speaker 4: But I think the unregulation in the intense movement that we're seeing among transfers and things like that, in the situation with the inconsistent eligibility standard, that it's not in a place, it's not in the greatest place right that it could be. So there's just a balance that has to be struck on how many how much rule and regulation, how much restriction do you put on athletes because they you know, ten years ago, Dan they had virtually none, right, they had no, hardly any freedoms, and now maybe the argument is they have too many freedoms and so we don't have any rule in regulation.

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Speaker 5: There's got to be sort of a balance there.

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Speaker 4: Usually you get to that balance by what the NFL and all the pro leagues have done dan, which is collect the bar. But it's out that evening college and it has been a big topic of discussion.

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Speaker 5: But it's not like you can push a button and get there.

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Speaker 4: But many administrators want to try to start taking steps down, down, down, toward a collective bargaining agreement of some sort with major college football and basketball players.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ross, yep, gonna be on Ross Dellinger, Yahoo Sports, senior college football reporter. You know, I know there's a lot of legalies in there, and you know, Ross trying to dumb it down a little bit for us just so we can kind of understand what this means. Now, what it means the upcoming season your school, if you're in the SEC Big ten or you're ACC or Big twelve. And there's a lot of moving parts here. Nothing's going to be solved anytime soon. You know, once you have uh, you know, both sides of the aisle not agreeing on this. It doesn't matter. You know, the president can say whatever he wants. It's not going to have an impact, at least not anytime soon, even if you have another executive order. It's just there's only so much you can do. It sounds grander than what it is. But is college football better now? Is the product better now? I know it's better for the players, but is the product better? Because I can look past the other stuff? If I say, Hey, what I'm watching is entertaining, it's I don't like that you can transfer multiple times. I think that there should be a cap on that. But if you want to try to, you know, make these players employees and have unions, and you know, there's a lot of work to be done. But I think they could have cut this off at the path, and they could have. They could have prevented a lot of this, a lot of this because I'll go back to when, well, you're getting a free education, yes, but if you look at the the schedules of these athletes, it's a work schedule and I wonder about school, or at least I did. Coach Saban said, we don't spend enough time talking about education. I don't know if these kids are going to school to get an education. They're going to school to play, you know, a sport and maybe play it after college. They're getting paid in college. I don't think it's the way it was. If you're over the age of fifty, where you go, you know, get an education. You should be happy you got a free education. This is big business. This is billions and billions of dollars. And they were labeled student athletes. And because of that, it's like, well, you got a free education. Yes you do, but it's so much more than that. And yes, education that's a rumor. It feels like. And as I've said many many times, I'm waiting for somebody to be ineligible, academically ineligible. I don't even know if we're enforcing that anytime soon. Yes, Paul, it's.

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Speaker 6: A really tough question to answer. Is college football the product better now or ten years ago? It felt like we missed the regulation of college football and more control. But if you look at what NIL has done, look at Indiana, one of the great stories in sports history, not just college football, and I think that directly happened because of the openness of college football now compared to seven eight years ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're bringing in schools that weren't in contention before, and I think that's a good thing. Instead of it being top heavy where it's the same five to seven schools, you get a school like Indiana to win the national championship. Never in my lifetime would I have thought that that was possible, and at times I still don't believe it. But you need to have those stories. All sports needs to have those stories where it's not predictable. That's the beauty. And you know, even this year's Super Bowl Seattle and New England, I don't think many people had either one of those teams going that far, but the possibility is there. You always want that with your leaks. Hey, the Spurs, they might be the team to beat in the West. It's a great story, not the Well, it's going to be the same teams, same schools, and I think that's something that is very promising in sports. All right, let me take a break. We'll talk about the NFL news here. Mike Tannenbaum from the Mothership will stop by. We'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 9: Great question. I think, Dan, they're resetting things. It's year one, Let's take the cap charges, Let's eat a lot of the money this year, some of it's going to go to next year and start fresh. I think it's sending a message about culture and more about the future than Hey, if we win six or seven games or eight games this year, that doesn't matter. So I understand why they were doing year one with a new head coach, year one with a new GM.

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Speaker 2: Are the Dolphins going to be tanking?

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Speaker 9: I don't know if they're gonna be tanking, But I think what's gonna be really interesting, Dan, if you and I are having this conversation October and November, there'll be a number of teams that are probably more interested in fishing closer to the top of the draft than to making the playoffs. And I don't know if they're going to have a tanking problem the way the NBA does. But without question, next year's draft is loaded with quarterbacks and there's gonna be a number of teams that maybe out of it in the middle of the season. It'll be interesting to see how they can port themselves when we get there.

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Speaker 2: But Tua, if he signs with the team, he still gets his money from Miami.

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Speaker 5: That's correct. There's three.

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Speaker 9: There's three quarterbacks right now, Kyler, Murray, Gino Smith and Tua that all have massive guarantees from their previous team. All three of those quarterbacks will sign for about one point three million dollars this year. So it's not necessarily comparing apples to apples when you talk about Daniel Jones or Kirk Cousins or Malik Willis with those other three, because a team is going to see one of those three players as tremendous value.

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Speaker 2: If you ran the Dolphins, what are you going to do at quarterback position?

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Speaker 9: I'm probably looking for a bridge quarterback and then looking at next year's draft because it could be historically great. Look, the season hasn't been played yet, We'll see how it goes, but you know there's a chance for it to be really good. So not not just necessarily Miami Dan, but if I felt like I was a year away or just trying to establish myself. There's, you know, over ten new head coaches. I'm sure a lot of teams are going to have a very similar mindset.

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby Raiders getting two first round picks from the Ravens. Let me start with the Ravens because I wondered about this last week. Why aren't more teams taking the approach the Rams take, like Buffalo getting Dj Moore. I mean, I got to be all in because we know that window of opportunity doesn't stay open very long. And the Rams, it feels like, for the last decade, have been all in. We don't need our draft picks. We're going to get people who can help us win or at least compete for another Super Bowl. The Ravens went all in with Max Crosby, Buffalo with Dj Moore, the Rams, you know, getting McDuffie. Why don't more teams follow that blueprint?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I think it's very sound, And in particular, you were asking about Osby. You know, there's a couple of really interesting things. First of all, he's only twenty nine, He's incredibly productive, and he's exactly what you want for your locker room. He's a force multiplier. He's going to make everybody in that program better. The interesting thing, Dan, that no one's really talked about is jesse Mentor went from this nice, young, ascending coach that will have, you know, a reasonable breaking period to like there is no honeymoon. Like the expectations for a rookie head coach have never been higher. If Lamar's healthy, he's a two time MVP. You have one of the two or three best pass rushers in the league. You have Derek Henry, rokwand Smith, Kyle Hamilton, amongst others. Like this guy's honeymoon's about ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: If you ran the Raiders, what do you do. You've got more cap space than anybody. You got two first round picks. We know what you're doing with one of them. What would you be leaning towards if you were running the team?

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Speaker 5: Three things?

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Speaker 9: Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. I am Dan, I am drafting men, but I am not playing him. I would have kept Gino Smith. And here's why. If you go back last year that they gave it more sacks than any team you could look at it from a few different metrics. Don't ruin it for Nando Mendoza before he's ready. I think he has a chance. On the upside, Dan to be Matt Ryan, a taller guy, a good arm, a good athlete, not a great athlete. He's going to need a firm pocket. That's something that the Raiders have really struggled with. So why are we going to rush to play him? I would go out and get somebody else to start at least half the year, and make sure that your offensive line is settled before you do anything with Mendoza, because you don't want to ruin his career before they have a chance to be good.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. I've been using the Andrew Luck analogy that you had this future Hall of Fame quarterback, you just didn't have a very good offensive line and it eventually caught up to both the cold Den Andrew Luck. Can you quietly shop the number one pick if you're the Raiders?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not so sure they have it. You know, like just from teams be at Arizona or the Jets could just say, hey, run into them at the combine and say, look, we're not negotiating. Tell me what the bill is, tell me what the prices? Is it three ones? Is a four ones? Chances are you know teams are going to do that because I'm sure they're looking at it at a multi year sort of view of what.

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Speaker 5: We had talked about.

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Speaker 9: When can think about Dante Moore next year, arch Manning, Leonora, Sellers like on and on and on, they'll probably be I think five or six first round quarterbacks if they play, you know, reasonably well this year. So I think part of what's going to hurt the Raiders from a leverage standpoint is teams are going to look at next year and say, we'll pay a premium, but we're not going to be unreasonable.

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Speaker 2: Who had a better week or ten days? Bills, Ravens Rams.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to go with the Rams. If you and I were running the Chiefs and we were just drafting the players on the Chiefs, Clearly Patrick Mahomes is the best player. I'm not so sure that Trent McDuffie is in two or three of their best players. He can blitz, he can tackle, he could play man, he could play zone, he could play slot, he could play outside. He's very competitive. There's nothing he doesn't do exceptionally well. And if we look at the rams and say, like what was outcome determinative, I would tell you like they're a lack of play at corner. You know, Darius Williams, Emmanuel Forbes. They didn't get the high level play. And we're gonna have to at some point cover Jackson Smith and Jigba Man to man. You know, we're gonna have to be able to get off the field on third down. They could do that today, they can do that a week ago, and I was surprised. Look, I know we've seen Kansas City trade the Jerry Sneed, We've seen him trade Tyreek Hill. I put McDuffie in a different category. I think he's a great young player, and I was surprised that they traded him.

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Speaker 2: He's Mike tan and baumb ESPN NFL Front office insider. What do you expect the rest of this week?

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Speaker 9: I think the quarterbacks are gonna be fascinating because I think you put that bucket of three in one group again, then that's Tua, Kyler, Murray and Gino Smifth. Those are are all one year deals at a million three, So like that's one bucket. I don't think anybody goes after Daniel Jones because of the Durabilly issue. But let's face it, Dan, like the Colts are a little bit exposed. They took a six million dollar risk. The transition tag was six million less than the franchise tag, understandably. But now let's see what happens with him, and then the other one's gonna be Malik Willis. Malik Willis was somebody that hasn't played a lot, but got a lot better with Green Bay, and it's gonna be fascinating to see where he signs.

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Speaker 2: What about the Colts going after Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 9: You know that's interesting, Dan. They like Wiley Leonard, they still have Anthony Richardson. Obviously they like Daniel Jones. That's why they transitioned him. Look, if you and I were running a team, I would say, for one point three million dollars, let's go hit Kyleer Murray. His ceiling is really high. He's only twenty nine years old. He's played good football, not consistently, but he's put it on tape. And I'm always four in a cap a constrained system, when you could take calculated risks and get a player that has a ability for incredibly on a three hundred million dollar cap, you're essentially paying him nothing at one point three million. There's very very little downside.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is only going to have the Steelers as a potential landing spot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think Minnesota if things do work out with Murray, I mean, that's the only other team. But you know, let's face it, Dan, he's going to be forty three in December. He's an all time great, one of the best I ever played. But it's close to the end and what you're worry about there, And I've been around Testa Verdi at the end, Farv at the end. I work with Dan Marino like talking to him. It's not their arm, Dan, it's their legs and their inability to protect themselves. And you know, he's going to be forty three father times undefeated. And if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I got to take a long, honest and sober view of do I really need to do this one more year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I just wonder about landing spots. Even Kirk Cousin does he look at TV and maybe commit to CBS, But with the caveat or the asterisk of if somebody calls I might be leaving, although I don't know if CBS would do that. I think he had a pretty good debut as an analyst here. But if you're going to replace Matt Ryan, you kind of want to know that that guy's going to be there on Sunday when you're doing your broadcast.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, if I'm Kirk Cousins, like, I got to be close to the end as well. Like, you know, he's a great dad by all accounts. You know, CBS seems like a pretty good opportunity. You know, we'll see you know, sometimes these guys are so competitive though, it's hard for them to leave. And by the way, a quarterback is going to look at Minnesota to say, I could be coach by Kevin O'Connell. I have Justin Jefferson ugly the best receiver in the game, Jordian Dass and TJ.

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Speaker 5: Hockinson. That's a pretty good place to be.

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Speaker 2: How did did Minnesota miss on JJ McCarthy? Like it feels like we haven't said the quiet out loud yet, but it certainly feels like they realized they made a mistake.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not ready to go there yet. He started ten games I think we gotta give him a grade have in complete. He's incredibly young. I saw him practice probably six times at Michigan. He has attributes. You can see he's a natural leader, he has poise about him, and I think there's too much upside to give up on him.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 9: With that said, if we could go get Kyler Murray or Kirk Cousins, I'm gonna have a competition. But you know, we've seen too many guys from Darnold, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield, you know, go to their third and fourth team until you know, quote unquote, the light went on and to me, we gotta remember this, like, worst case scenario is not JJ McCarthy not working out, it's him working out someplace else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. But it feels like you're either good, really good with your team or you know that you're gonna get You're gonna be a backup quarterback and then you're gonna get your chance again. It feels like there's two buckets and quarterbacks. That guy's going to bounce around and be Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield or Gino Smith, or you are going to get that quarterback who is going to be with your franchise from start to finish.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, how about this, Like I just tweeted this a couple of months ago. This is a remarkable statistic. Kyler Murray is the seventh consecutive quarterback drafted first overall that wasn't on the team that drafted him by the age of thirty. The last quarterback to be drafted first overall and still be honest team at thirty was Matt Stafford, and he was drafted going back to two thousand and nine. So it's really remarkable how hard it is to develop a quarterback now Andrew Luck retired, but yeah, seven quarterbacks in a row didn't make it to age of thirty.

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Speaker 2: You ever get in a shouting match with an agent?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, more times than I would care to admit.

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Speaker 2: Can you give me one. You don't have to give names, but no, what not loud? Did it get?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Gout loud? There was one that was so bad that I actually not only did I call him to apologize, I wound up hiring his son as an interns.

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Speaker 5: They felt so bad.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we'll be watching. Thank you, Mike. Great to talk to you again.

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Speaker 9: All right, appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, Mike, Tannenbaum. You can see him on various ESPN programs, Get Up Sports Center, NFL Live. And you feel bad you don't send chocolates, you go, We'll hire your son as an intern. A couple of phone calls in here, Mark and Saint Cloud. Welcome back, Mark, Hey Dan, how you doing good.

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Speaker 4: Sir good?

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Speaker 12: I got a couple of best and the worst worst. I feel bad for the kids at Navy, but I'm sure Fritzy that the Navy announcer was really excited when Boston you hit that shot to take him out of the tournament. I'm sure he illustrated that well. Best of the weekend. Your Johnny's University and your Benning's of the College of Saint Benedict both make it in to the Division III Hockey NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 1: And I have a rule.

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Speaker 12: Speaking of the Division one NCAA tournament, I'd like you to consider what should.

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Speaker 4: Think of this.

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Speaker 12: If you don't finish about five hundred in your conference, unless you win the conference tournament, you can't get an automatic birth or you know, and at large berth. I should say you can't get an at large berth if you don't finish over five hundred in your conference. So Auburn out stand of the day, Minneapolis the leader and money spent on only fans. Atlanta's number one nationally, but Minneapolis in the top five.

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Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, Minneapolis. It is cold there. You look at some of these teams that are bubble teams. You got Auburn, they're sixteen and fifteen, Indiana eighteen and thirteen, Stanford twenty and eleven, Boise State twenty and eleven, and they're probably there waiting for Miami of Ohio to get bounced.

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Speaker 13: Yes, Marvin, Auburn's a bubble at one game above five hundred. If you're like nineteen and twelve, all right, Well you can't be seventeen and sixteen, like, oh, they're a bubble team.

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Speaker 2: They did beat Florida at Florida. I don't know what their resume is. And you got Bruce Pearl talking about his son, who's the head coach at Auburn. No conflict. Yeah, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 13: But what about those sixteen games they lost. I'm sure there's a couple of teams that they shouldn't have lost to.

00:31:28
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, babe. But you know, if Miami of Ohio played in the SEC. They'd be lucky to be sixteen and fifteen. Get ready for these arguments here and now, Bruce Pearl, I think he's rooting for Akron to get in as well, maybe to beat Miami of Ohio to win that MAC Conference tournament. But Miami of Ohio would still get in with just one loss. If Miami of Ohio was in undefeated, people would watch their game or games they did. They would, they would they they would be I don't know who these guys are, but they're undefeated, and that you know, this is once again, it's a TV show. I bring it up every year, even when you get matchups and it's like, oh, Bob Knights at Texas Tech and if he wins his game, then he gets to play Indiana. Oh what are the odds of that? Yes, they manipulated, Yes, Mark.

00:32:30
Speaker 9: I remember vividly.

00:32:31
Speaker 13: Just had to be maybe two thousand and seven. It was Oj Mayo's USC team against Michael Beasley's Kansas State team. Oh, what are the odds that they're gonna put these two top five draft picks on the same same game?

00:32:41
Speaker 2: Hey, Todd, would a neutral fan.

00:32:43
Speaker 14: Be wanting to tune in to see Miama Ohio continues staying undefeated, or to see them finally.

00:32:48
Speaker 5: Lose a game.

00:32:50
Speaker 2: Well, you tell me.

00:32:52
Speaker 14: I don't want to skew negative, but I think more people would tune in to see them lose their first game than to stay undefeated.

00:32:56
Speaker 5: I hope I'm.

00:32:58
Speaker 2: Rooting. No, they would root for them. It's an underdog, It's Cinderella. Isn't that why we watch?

00:33:05
Speaker 9: Until eventually?

00:33:06
Speaker 15: You want those teams to lose so we could.

00:33:08
Speaker 2: See all Yes, yes, but Miami, Ohio would be a great story, you know.

00:33:14
Speaker 6: Paul, Yeah, I think Todd's and an Island on this one because you root for the story and the run to keep going. You don't want a story to end prematurely.

00:33:22
Speaker 2: I think it's a great story. Yeah, yes, morph.

00:33:25
Speaker 13: The one part that hurts Miami of Ohio is that they don't have a Steph Curry or Wally Zerbiek, a guy that's scoring twenty five at night. They have eight guys that score ten points a night.

00:33:35
Speaker 2: Yes, that damn team effort. We want stars. Boo sharing the ball, boo, balance basketball, boo, bounce past backdoor cuts.

00:33:45
Speaker 14: Yes, Tom, When is Indiada basketball going to make a comeback? The year Indiada was a national title. We're talking about the Indiada who'sas as a bubble team. Have to rub it in the whole football basketball at thatchadomy.

00:33:54
Speaker 2: Now, how about we take a break more phone calls, reg you will join us next hour we will give you out best and worst of the weekend after this.

00:34:02
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00:34:14
Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings may have quit on the season, but Russell Westbrook Junior, the third is not. He had twenty three, twelve and eleven as the Kings beat the Bulls. He now has two hundred and eight career triple doubles, an NBA record. He had kind of bit oh ok stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. He had kind of a tense back and forth with a reporter about you don't know this team, you don't know me, and kind of went back and forth there. So, still fighting the men's college basketball title. Odds DraftKings just sent those to me. It's duke with a slight edge over Michigan. Then my Arizona Wildcats, Florida, Houston, Illinois, best and worst of the weekend, Todd, I'm going to start with you best and worst.

00:35:13
Speaker 5: My best of the weekend.

00:35:14
Speaker 14: How about some love for Tennessee State. They win the Ohio Valley Conference, which gives them an automatic bid to the tournament. They haven't been there since nineteen ninety four. As far as March Madness dominating Morehead State ninety three to sixty seven.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: Worst, I'm giving it to Great Britain.

00:35:27
Speaker 14: Sorry, Great Britain in the World Baseball Class against USA after hitting a home run off Threek Schooble on the first pitch of the game, it happens, went two for twenty eight, seventeen strikeouts, no walks, not good. Good.

00:35:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, that pitch that Treek schoobled through, I mean it was meatball city. It was like, oh, I'm gonna get that first pitch over, you know, just getting started, and all of a sudden it is kind of belled high and he belt at it. Seaton Best and worst of the weekend. My best is the Raiders.

00:35:57
Speaker 3: Actually they got kind of a haul for Max Crosby. The people thought that their price they were asking was a little too steep, but they found somebody to step up for it, and it seems like they're doing the right things. A lot of pressure now to do the right thing with those draft picks, but that that was a good move by them. And my worst Joe Burrow now in division has to face Max Crosby, TJ.

00:36:17
Speaker 2: Watt, and Miles Garrett.

00:36:19
Speaker 3: If he was looking forward to next season, he should not be, Yes, Todd.

00:36:24
Speaker 14: But Joe Burrow was also seen recently with Jessica Alba at a casino table, which is something with noted.

00:36:29
Speaker 2: I know I did see that photo. I doubled down. He Marvin Bested worst.

00:36:40
Speaker 13: Best of the weekend Victor wibin Yama in the Spurs coming back against the LA Clippers in Wemby getting emotional. I mean he was. That dude is different and he saved the All Star Game. I mean, he took the Americans to the limit in the Olympics. I mean he's just on a tear right now. Worst of the weekend my Yukon Husky's losing to eleven and nineteen marks. Ok, they shot three for twenty four for three point range to end the regular season.

00:37:05
Speaker 2: And your coach gets fined twenty five thousand dollars bumping in a fish.

00:37:10
Speaker 5: He kept this school.

00:37:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if they suspend him. I know that they immediately came out and said twenty five thousand dollars fine, and then he's afterwards, he goes, I don't think I bumped in, but if I did, they said I did, Then I guess I did. No, you did, yes, Paul.

00:37:29
Speaker 6: It felt like more of a grazing than a bumping. I don't know if there's any difference in price. And I'm objective about this. I'm not a Yukon of fan. It felt like a grazing, but definitely contact. Okay, best and worst two best Nebraska Cornhuskers basketball. I watched them. That's been a good program for a while. Now they're they're twenty six and five. We talk about football schools becoming basketball schools. And then Missouri Valley Conference Northern Iowa four games or wins four days to get the ticket to the big Dance as.

00:38:02
Speaker 5: They call it.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get to punch their ticket. As they like to say, good program, you get to punch your ticket. Brian and Sacramento, Hi. Brian, best and worst of the weekend.

00:38:12
Speaker 8: A Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call first time, long time five eleven two o five, Thank you. Awesome. That's the weekend.

00:38:23
Speaker 11: My nephew, freshman pitcher for Sack State going on the road to LSU and recording not one but two saves Saturday and Sunday last night, so that was very very cool.

00:38:36
Speaker 10: Worst of the.

00:38:36
Speaker 8: Weekend learning that college baseball still has a ten run skunk rule Friday night, LSU smoking Sack State, not getting to see my nephew pitch.

00:38:48
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you. Brian Matt in Ohio.

00:38:50
Speaker 15: Hi Matt, morning guys.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: How are you spectacular?

00:38:57
Speaker 10: Watching the World Baseball Classic? What a despair any of the teams Brazil against the United States. Brazil has a construction worker on the team. And also one of the greatest things was Joseph Contreras, a seventeen year old from Brazil, actually gets Aaron Judge to ground out into a double play. So it's pretty cool to see that.

00:39:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm watching a picture for Panama and like it kind of startled me. I thought, like Bartolo Cologne had a brother very similar size. Oh no, yes, he didn't really cut a figure of a baseball player, but I think you can get away with that as a pitcher, And he was getting away with that for quite some time. I was texting Mario the eyes and the ears of the show, and he, of course rooting for Puerto Rico. He goes, I can't believe he's getting us out with that junk, and I know he was dealing. As they say, Alex in Michigan, Hi, Alex, what's on your mind?

00:40:05
Speaker 16: Yeah, a man, I'm looking at two him maybe maybe being a replacement for mag Jones if they trade him. I think he can go there and maybe get some help on having an offense that supports him, the system that supports him, and maybe he could have some value after.

00:40:26
Speaker 2: Well, anybody who's going to go to the Niners to kind of have a pit stop a reset will benefit. If you're there with Kyle Shanahan, you will benefit as a quarterback, Mac Jones, Sam Darnold just to name a few. But you know, Tua can end up in Atlanta. Yeah. I mean, if you have you build your offense for left handed quarterback, now you have two of them. Uh Andy and Buffalo. Hi Andy, what's on your mind?

00:40:57
Speaker 11: Hey?

00:40:57
Speaker 15: Dan, thanks for taking my call. Best of the I know it's the start of the NFL new year. But here in Buffalo, everyone's ecstatic about the Sabers their victory last night over the Lightning. They are now in full possession of first place in the Atlantic Division, looking a lot like they are going to end their fourteen year playoff drought. And last night's game had everything you want in a hockey game. Four fights in the first period, eight seven final score. And I do have to mention my five day old daughter, Reagan Mary. She has only seen the Sabers win seven and zero since the Olympic break, So thanks for taking my call. Go Sabers.

00:41:39
Speaker 2: All right, Andy, that was wild just seeing the highlights. But there should be an app that says, hey, tune into the Sabers Lightning game. It is chaos. Pauly tooid with that idea of coming up with an app where it kind of alerts you to here's where to find it. We're working on it or workshopping. Then Reggie Miller will join us, coming up in about twenty five minutes from now, final hour in this Monday, after this