Becca & Michelle Get Girlypop with Ally Yost

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. Of course, I got my girl Michelle with me once again, and I'm so excited to catch up with you. Yes, it's so great to be back this week for some girl chat with you. And speaking of girl chats, today we're gonna be joined by Ali Yost of TikTok Fame and Girly Pop podcast. I'm so excited. It'll be fun to have Ali on. She's just such a badass. She's all about female empowerment. She just launched a new podcast on her own, so it's gonna be fun to catch up with her. But before that, Michelle, I got to catch up with you because I haven't chatted with you in a week and I know. Okay, But first Becca, Yes, happy related birthday. Oh, thank you, thank you. We need to talk about your celebrations today. We're starting with you. Chicken nugget cake. That's all I'm gonna say. Chicken nugget cake. Tell us about it. I am well, okay, So that was the best surprise. I gave up sweets for lent and so I obviously can't have a real cake. And they like my tour team and the dancers and Thomas obviously know me far too well. So instead of an actual cake for the birthday, they came out with this spectacular chicken nugget bouquet cake that was just incredible. It had all of the chicken nuggets like on like skewers, and then just all of the sauces down below, and so I was living on chicken nuggets for like a good twenty four hours. It was delicious. I was the best surprised, though. I don't know how you gave up sweets, truly, because especially when I go on a road trip, a really long road trip, and you were on this bus for Bachelor Live on stage, like you've been on this bus for a minute, if I could not have candy or sweets, I think I would be so grumpy. Oh well, see, usually it's easy. I do it every year because I have such a bad sweet tooth, and like after the first couple days and I feel good, I'm like I got this. But because I'm on the tour bus and you know, there's like eight or nine of us living on this bus, everybody loves their sweets, so they're constantly with every city, they're constantly bringing cupcakes, cookies, brownies, like whatever it is that the city is known for we have on our bus, and so it's been extra extra difficult this year. Like I'm truly surprised that I've lasted this long. But Lent is over very very soon, and I'm so excited because the day that it ends will be in New Orleans, so I'm gonna stock up on vignets when we're there. I was gonna say, what is the first thing that you're eating? Oh, all the Vignet's even think I've ever had a bignet. Oh my gosh, it's Oh, you would love it. I mean, if you have a sweet tooth, you would love it. It's kind of like it tastes similar to a funnel cake, like the same texture and consistency, but with all the powdered sugar on it. But just whenever you try your first one, don't wear black because every time you breathe, the powdered sugar literally goes everywhere, and just like, we'll cake your shirt. So the first time I ever had when I wore black, and it was the worst idea. But they're mouse is literally watering over here. If you just see me start to drool. Theay no attention, attention I'm going to see you on Instagram later just buying pignets and just shoving your face full of them. So please tell me. If you do, let's do it. I will let you know for sure. So we saw on Instagram that your mom and Thomas this mom met they were at this show. Was this the first time that they have met in person? Yes, officially met in person? Was on my birthday? I mean they had been talking for so long since Thomas and I got together. They had been on the phone, like constantly texting each other, so I feel like when they actually physically met, they were best friends, like, and they love each other now every day. My mom's like, I love Mama Jacobs. I love Because his sister was there too, She's like, I love his sister. So it was so fun to finally have us all together other. It was just like it was long overdue and it was just the absolute blast to have all of our families there for my birthday was really really special. I'm gonna say that was probably so nice for you. Warmed your heart being up on stage now. Yeah, literally, like every one of your supporters in the audience. That's all I know. I know, But it's been such a blast with Bachel eleven stage. Okay, I don't know how you're keeping up with it? Are you tired? Because I'm over here teaching. I'm tired, so I don't absolutely you are not exhausted. Well, okay, I mean I have to give credit work. Credit is due teachers. You all do so so much, especially with twenty five thirty students each and every day, like you deserve to be exhausted, like you have earned that. I mean, I just go up on stage every night and sing a dance and facilitated show. But I mean I can. I feel like I'm in a constant state of exhaustion right now, like my feet are broken. But but I don't want to complain because I absolutely love it. I have such a blast. It's been truly like the most fun thing I've ever done. I feel like I just I found my thing and so it's been so wonderful. Are you gonna be so sad when it's like your last show? You think, oh yeah, definitely, definitely. It's it's gonna be weird. I mean, because we did this a couple of years ago, prior you know, to COVID, and even when that shutdown, because we only got I think like eighteen or nineteen shows under our belt. Like, even when that ended, I was like, what do I do now? You know, it was like this weird transition where I was fixated on one thing for so long and now luckily I still have my wine line and bordone and everything, but it's gonna be a very weird adjustment. You have so many things going on that after this show's over, maybe you'll like taking a deep breath. But also you just launched a new collapse. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Oh? Yes, of course. I partnered with a brand called Lulu Simon and they make just so many different varieties of pieces of clothes, a lot of loungewaur so I actually did a small little collab with them that launched last week. It's all comfy clothes, So tease a sweatshirt. I'm actually wearing it right now. So I noticed that first of all. Yeah, but it's all pieces that like basically are mey. So we have one for the dogs, we have one for the champagne, my sparkling wine line, and then just like a fun oversized sweatshirt because I'm always in my loungewur, So if anyone wants to get it, you can get it all online at Lulu Simon dot com. I've been taking it in my stories on Instagram, but it's just fun, comfy, cozy pieces. I like, I hate to get all dressed up, so whenever I can just wear my loungewur, that's all I live in these days. So yeah, it's it's been a fun project that I've been working on. But Michelle, I want to pivot to you and hear from you. Speaking of fun things, So I saw that you and Nate recently ran into both Matt and Rachel at the ncuble A Women's Final four. How was that unexpected? You know, when you like you run into you expect to run into one of your exes, right, I feel like it's inevitable, like you break up whatever down the line, like you're always going to run back into them, right, And so I always knew that there's like gonna come a time where you know, I crossed Matt's path again. And you know, Rachel and I still always catch up every once in a while, and so you know we're not like completely disconnected. But I was really surprised that that took place in Minnesota, because that is like the last place I thought I'd run into them. You know, Nate and are gonna be traveling to New York here, and we've been in La so much, so I thought that those were the places. So it just kind of caught me off guard, and definitely caught all the other fans who were at the arena off guard too, and the amount of cameras and phones that shot up as soon I was like, wait, I was laughing. Everyone else around his laughing, Matt and Rachel were laughing, and so it was fun. It was It was nice and you know, naked's along with everybody. Yeah right, It wasn't awkward or anything like that. Yeah. Well, and I always say, like people always think, isn't it weird running into your exes from the show, And it all is probably dependent on who your ex is, but everyone's paths crossed. There's always something going on that you just know, especially in this world, you're going to run into somebody. I have to say that I always forget you were on Matt season. I forget too, but I yeah, I actually forgot about that, and even when I posted it on my story there, I have so many responses that were like, I totally forgot that you were on Matt season, and I was like, honestly, I forgot too until I saw him coming up the escalator with Rachel, Like, yeah, it's something that you know, it's not necessarily a forfeit of my mind. And it was. It was this huge emotional roller coaster, right, but everything in this world changes over so quick. So as quick as that breakup happened, then you know, I was in this bachelorte role, and now now I'm here, it seems like so long ago. Yeah, I don't know how you did it. Honestly, if I would run into some of my exes, I would book it the other way. I'd be like, I don't have time for this. I could not chat with them. No, it was just a public setting. But no, I mean they seem you know, they seem like they're doing well. Nate and I are doing really well. So yeah, it was it was fun speaking of you and Nate and you just mentioned this, but you guys are headed to New York. What are you going there for? Is it just for fun? So Nate and I were supposed to go to New York after the finale. And it was something that we were both looking forward to so much, just because, like we always had in the background mind that we were going to live in New York for a period of time. That is not a hint or anything like that, but we just we really wanted to go there as a couple, and we're sad when we had to cancel that trip due to the pandemic. And so we got invited to Sherry Hill's fashion show, Bridal Version, and so we decided to make a trip out of it. And you know, we're going to meet up with Serena and Joe, We're going to meet up Potentia with Bree and her boyfriend that we've met before, and so it'll be like a nice little trip. And I'm sure you could, you know, see us walking around doing all the touristy things too. I mean, Nate's a huge museum person, so I wouldn't be surprised if we hit up a few museums. I'm so jealous. I love New York. I mean to give you one recommendation. If you make it over to Brooklyn, go to Ignazio's Pizza. It is my favorite spot, Thomas introduced me, and it's and it's beautiful. It's right under the bridge, like right on the water, beautiful setting. There's so many other of course, it's New York and Brooklyn, like so many other bars and restaurants around it, but it is worth the hike over there, walk the bridge, and just head on down. It's so good. Oh, I'm so jealous excited for that again. My mouth is over here watering. Okay, please take pictures of all of the food you eat. I will live vicariously through you. Well, Michelle, it's been so fun to catch up with you. You're gonna have an absolute blast in New York. Live it up for me. But we got to keep this fun rolling. I think it's time that we just bring out our amazing guest of the day. She is not only a professional makeup artist, but she has a huge following on TikTok, and she, like I mentioned, recently launched her own podcast called Girlypop. So everybody please welcome Ali Yost. Hello. How are you doing. I'm great, guy. Well, we were so excited to have you. Congratulations first on the launch of your Girlypop podcast. So exciting. I appreciate that, guy, So we know that you were all about women empowerment and just sending positive vibes and so Becca and I were just super excited. I know that I followed you on TikTok for a little bit, so I was really happy to be able to interview you and just kind of see how all of this came about. Yeah, you guys are so sweet. Thank you so much. Thanks for me first off, of course, but yeah, I don't know, it kind of like happened on accident, if you're asking, like how I even started my TikTok um. It was like right at the peak of the pandemic and before my social media really started to explode. I was a freelancing makeup artist, so obviously once COVID hit, I couldn't do makeup anymore. So, um, it was just one of those times where I was we were all there, right, we were just bored, like looking things to do from home, So um, I just started making videos. And I think also just as humans during that time, with all of us going through something so traumatic where we didn't really know how to navigate through it, I think, you know, just like hope and encouragement was like so needed more than any other time, you know, Like that was like the most that we probably could have really needed some type of like words of encouragement on the internet, you know. So, um, I guess that that's probably like that's probably why it exploded the way that it did, because I just think the timing was really great. Um. But yeah, I've always kind of I've always been like that. I've always it's been very like back in the day, I used to be on Vine, and so I had like, yes, I miss Vine so much. I talked about it. But that's the reason I love TikTok so much? Is it because I feel like it's very similar to Vine in that way, you know, just like a longer version. But um, yeah, I had a whole two thought one hundred thousand on Vine, and I kind of felt like that was like the peak of my social media presence, you know, like I didn't really get any type of traction or like I didn't get an audience bigger than when I had my Vine. So it was just it was really cool for me because the way that my TikTok exploded, I was like, Wow, I guess like people still like want to hear what I have to say, or like they still value the content that I make. You know so um, But yeah, I guess it kind of just happened on accident. But then I just kept going with it and now it's my full time and I love it. I still do makeup, I still freelance, but TikTok and social media is my full time now, which is such a dream come true because I've been doing it for years. But yeah, so that's my You have the whole creative mindset, which I love because I am truly not that way. And so every time I see people blowing up on TikTok or whatever it is, I'm like, yeah, that's incredible. Just it blows my mind. I have to ask you, though, and I do want to get into more of the podcast and everything, but before that, because Michelle and I are fans of you, we obviously love like Michelle said, you're you're just a badass female empowerment, good positive vibes. Just to spread all throughout social media because it can be a very scary place. Yeah. But were you a bouchhort or boucherette fan? Um? So I was there a little bit when I was younger, but I was like afraid that you guys were gonna ask is Oh no, no, No No, don't worry. I don't keep up with it. I really don't, obviously, like I'm familiar with y'all, Like I'm familiar with, you know, the people on the show, but I'm definitely not a person who like watches all the episodes and keeps up with it. Like every girlfriend of mine does. You know these two women coming up, Alie, this is your chance to maybe you know, get back on the Bachelorette chain. I know, I know for sure, I love it. I've been wanting somebody on the podcast where they're like, no, I'm not a fan. I don't watch the show. I'm like because like, realistically, there's so much more to everybody than just like the one thing than the show. So I'm glad that you're like that's not like y'all, that's not just like your only identity, right, yeah, Like yes, it's a major part of your life, but we identify in other ways than just the Bachelor, So like, yes, like I'm glad. Yeah, absolutely. It is so crazy though, like how just even being right like this is such a small snippet of your life, like even with Becca too, like when you were on the show, you have so much more life outside of the show, but like those few minutes or whatever airtime you have or whatever people know of you, like, that's who you are. That's who you are, right, that's your full identity, Like you were a person before that show and you're show. Yeah, you know exactly, And I like it's it's almost like you can understand that. The people who've gone through it can understand it, you know, but um, not necessarily like fans, I always understand that piece to be kind of crazy. Yeah, and it's reality TV, right, so it's like it only shows like little parts of who you are, not as the first full person you know. Yes, yes, it shows two months of our lives and that's it and that's it, and yes, there's so much more all of us. Not a Bachelorette fan, but that is okay, not yet. We might have you, we might have you next season. We'll see, we'll see. But um okay, one I saw the other day on TikTok you posted, um you did like a little video of where you started, like your first makeup that you did versus like where you are now. Yeah, which is so wild to look. I'm like, can you just come do my islander? Because of the wing islander. I can't. Like I thought about bringing my island a pencil here, like, oh my god, we should do a tutorial. I need it bad, cook grab new pencil. Now. That's one thing that I love about winged liners, like hasn't gone out, Like even then six years ago, I was wearing winged liner and I just hope it never goes away because that's like such a staple, as like a good eyeliner moment you feel like it. I mean, it's been a thing since what like the sixties, probably been forever. Yeah, No, honestly I need to. I need to. Yeah, I shall loves her bomber Jackets bomber Jackets. At a moment, I want to get into more of your TikTok presence, but first because I we're all about building up women and we're just so happy that we have a fellow podcast on here. So you recently launched girly Pop. Where did you get that name? Like? How what does it mean for all of our listeners? Yeah? So um I okay. So honestly, it just stems back from one day randomly one of my girlfriends was like hyping me up on my Instagram post. As we do as women, right, we hype each other off in the comments. So she called me girly pop. She was like, whatever, you look great, girly pop, and I literally fell to the ground. I was like, that is the cutest thing I've ever heard. And then I just it kind of like stuck to my own vocabulary. And then during one of the times I was giving like my little encouraging moments or like pep talk on TikTok, I threw in girly pop and everyone, like my audience was like ran with it. They loved it. So it just kind of stuck. So I feel like every kind of like outro to my videos, I'm like, you got this girly pop, or like even with my podcast, I'll be like, you know, you got this girly pop, love you girly pops. Whatever. So that's just kind of like that's like my audience now is they're they're my girly pops, and it's just become like such a part of my brand. Yeah. So um, Honestly, my audience was like a huge inspiration for me to start a podcast because I just feel like there was so much more conversation that we could have passed like three minutes Max on TikTok. You know, so I had never really considered having a podcast until they were like, no, you like, we would really really listen to it. So I was like, Okay, I mean I really love to talk. I was like born to freaking talk, so my mom can vouch for that for sure. Um, So I was like, I might as well give it a shot. And then one day I was brainstorming and I was like, shut up, Early popcast. That's like the cutest thing I've ever heard. So it's just yeah, it's just been like the center of my brand. But I love it. You know what, I keep like listening in my head. You know, we all know the old school and sync song dirty Pop. I feel like we gotta do a remix like girly Pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got before. Yeah that's so cute. You need to do a yes, totally, let's go. I love that. Well. One thing about you and I feel like so many probably of your followers have said this to you too and can relate as you just spread so many positive vibes sort of all of your content. But what I do love about you two is you're very willing, which actually could be perfect for the television show. Is you're so willing to be vulnerable and open and honest and even you know, get emotional and cry when the moment calls for it. Um So, whether it's through advice, after me motivational messages, how does it feel knowing that your content brings so much happiness to people? Oh my god, I love that. It's it's honestly what makes it all worthwhile for me. And at the end of the day, like my one mission in life is just that I make a difference in one way, shape or form while I'm here on planet Earth, you know what I mean. So if that means that I touch three people, twenty people, one point four million people, like that's all that I can ever ask for. So that is one hundred percent what keeps me going because obviously with being you know, a social media presence you have, it's a lot of opportunity for people to critique you. And it's just like it's just vulnerable to like put yourself out there for strangers every single day. Like there's so many people who know like every part of my life. You guys get this, So it's like sometimes it can get a little overwhelming or even discouraging, but I think at the end of my day, like I just thank God every single day that I can just be that person that can make a difference for people even though I've never met them. Like that's like the craziest thing to social media for me is that I can touch people that I haven't even really personally met, and that just like blows my mind. It's like the coolest thing ever. And how like heavily you can actually influence them, And I think, yeah, I mean that is such an amazing thing. You definitely are touching woman and young girls as well, so I con like across the world and then that's wild, you know. I think the coolest part for me is just you know, watching it when you're in a position, right, you're doing all these beautiful to makeup tutorials and all these different things, right, and it's so easy for girls to take a look at that and be like I want to be exactly like that, Like this girl, this woman is perfect, but you being so willing to show that vulnerable side shows them like it's okay to break down, and that's real life. And I think that's a piece that I just a lot of people connect with and right, Yeah, it's pretty I even think as like a consumer of do I say consumer, I don't know, like a person who scrolls on the internet. You know, there's so much of that already that I'm like, it's like that. It's like that saying where it's like, if you don't see enough of blank in the world, just be it. And so I'm like, I don't see enough realness. I don't see enough like mental breakdowns on the living room floor. So like I'm gonna be that. No other people are doing it. I know I'm not the only thing all doing it. We're all there there a few minutes ago, you know exactly. I actually love that you said that, And I want to ask you both this question because this is something that I've charted with some of my girlfriends, just like from back home back in Minnesota with is I and I recently went through I call I called it the purge on Instagram, where I followed a decent amount of people, but especially people who everything was so perfect, so curated. It had like this seamless aesthetic where it was like all just them with their selfies and their perfect clothes, hair done up, makeup done like beautiful, like showing off the bodies, and I'm like, this seems so fake to me, Like this is not real, And so I just had to stop following a lot of them, and like now even you know, because you can go on the search feed in Instagram and on TikTok, I don't even follow them anymore because I'm like, I don't want to just constantly be seeing this one side of things and like think that this is reality. I think it's so damaging, especially for young women. Do you both find yourselves kind of having that same mentality of like, you know, you only want the real now? Yeah? I think I think that just like the overfiltered, like perfect stuff on the Internet has gotten really old, and I think it's it's so important to be like self aware of what is going through your brain when you're looking at that stuff. So like sometimes I'll be following, you know, certain women or certain accounts or whatever on Instagram and I've been following them for years and I'm like, no, no, no, I really love this person. And then I'm like, but Ali, do you really love them? Or every time you look at a post of them, you're like about yourself, you know what I'm saying. So it's not even anything where you're like, she's such a fake whatever. It's like, you know, I can I think she's beautiful, she's amazing, her life looks awesome. But in reality, I every time I see their stuff, I don't talk well to myself. And if that's the type of response that I get by looking at their stuff, I can't follow them anymore, you know. So it's not it's like it's it's almost like you just have to be really self conscious of like how you're talking to yourself or what is going through your brain when you see certain posts like that. You know. I think that's the biggest part for me personally, is just being able to identify those types of thoughts right, not not allowing them to spiral out of control, because it's like your brain really does fire all these random things at times sometimes you don't even realize it. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard, and it's like even if you're aware of it, right, it still happens, and sometimes like it takes you a minute to catch yourself for sure. But yeah, I mean I just when I like sit and look at my students and I hear my students talk about all these different things on TikTok and Instagram and they're ten and eleven, and the fact that like they're already comparing there's so much that's really hard, you know, that's so hard to to see. And so it's like, you know, if I'm doing it, you know, they're definitely definitely and they don't even have you know, necessarily, like life is so confusing at that time as well. Yeah, well we at least as adults probably have more of the wherewithal to kind of know, like track our friend, and they can't. They truly can't. It's they really believe it. I'm not gonna let my kids have technology. They will not have phones, access to the internet, anything. Intel tell you to get your driver's license, go play, go play outside, go play kickball. I'll get iPads and stuff. Before they even hit double digits, they're like eight years old with like full access to the Internet. And I'm like, I literally had like random eight year olds duetting my TikTok and I'm like, why are you on the internet. You're eight, Go play soccer? Why I don't even know what I'm talking about. There's no way this is all going right over your little eight year old head. You totally like what stuff that they're inundated with in this saying age is such a scary thing. Oh my god. I was going to ask you both actually at the top of this episode when you mentioned Vine, did either of you have my Space or was that before your time? Yes? I had my Space? Did you have my Space? No? I didn't because my parents didn't let me. Okay I didn't, she said, No, I had my Space, which I'm actually surprised because not thinking about it, Like my parents were fairly strict growing up. But do you remember when you had to rate to your friends your top eight? You had to rate your top friends, Like that's how best friends? Like, do you know how unhealthy that is? Like, oh my god. What about the Facebook status is where it would be like, oh yeah, it'd be like rate me or something. What was it called? I know exactly what you're talking about. It. Yes, that social media is this freaking scary place. And to be honest was called to be honest, to be honest, like write it, to be honest about me, to be honest you like you're so beautiful, Like to be honest, like your breath is really smelly, Like it was just not nice stuff. Like, why are we setting each other up to like to sleep at like right? Oh man, oh my gosh, man, Well, I'm glad that Michelle had in my face. I was because I'm old, obviously older than both of you. I just turned thirty two, and I'm like, I'm really going to age myself right now asking this question. I never had it, I honestly, I when I had my first Facebook account, like all my other friends had Facebook. I did have a cell phone at this point, but my parents were like, no social media. They were smarter, honestly, they knew what they were doing it. At the time, I was like, you guys are such jerks, you know, like, just let me all my friends have Facebook? Why can't I? M And I made a fake, well not fake, but like I made a Facebook account behind my parents back, and they found out obviously how long did they go without finally, like how long did you get away with it? Like twelve hours? Oh a week? No, like what twelve hours night while I was sleeping. I wasn't even using it and then they they found out the next morning. How did they find out? Did they go like did you forget to delete the history or something on the computer got to log out like or something, you know, because that was like when we had like a family like computer. There was no rookie mistake. Ali I didn't even mind, Like well I and then what was it? We aol hey, you know like the whole like phone thing would run yeah yeah, yeah yeah wait do you do you both remember your handles? And it breaks my heart. I don't remember it. It was probably something so cheesy and I don't remember. I'm so bumped. I just had this conversation again with my girlfriend's back in Minnesota, and we were all reading our user names to each other and I was like, this shit's embarrassing. Well I had one, so my very first one because I loved taking back Sunday back in the day because I was emo. It was like Sunday's best and probably like my birthday or something. And then I had one that because my nickname was Booper, so like Boops or Booper or something. Um. But like my friend, I mean, of course, like when you're younger, you don't like fully understand what like certain things or numbers mean. So like all of my girlfriends had like, um like Blonde Chica sixty nine, and I'm like we were literally ten, Like we had no idea when sixty nine even meant at that point, but like we just thought it was cool. But Ali, I actually have this question for you because if your parents were so again against like my Space and Facebook, how do they feel now that basically social media is your full time career. I wait, I love that question so much. I thought about it helpful circle moment. I haven't even asked them that yet, but um, I mean they're extremely supportive of what I do, especially because they're just proud of this type of content I make, you know, um, so, so so yeah, they're very supportive now. But that's hilarious. I didn't even think of that. Like they like, we're trying everything to not have me on it, and you need to stop. Right by the time this airs, hopefully you'll have chatted with them so you're back to us. I will absolutely, I'll hold him tonight. I have Yes. I love it. Ellie, you talked a little bit about like making content right, because like it has become this like huge part of your life. Is there a point where like making content it's stressful for you now that it's like right because it's do you feel like your personal life is social media and your business life is social media, and then you're just you know, you're trying to make that daily content, you're trying to reach your viewers, you're trying to do all these different things. How do you figure out that balance? Yeah, it's it's crazy you just bring that up now, because I feel like I kind of had my first uh I don't want to say breakdown, but yeah, kind of I had my first moment of like really feeling like I hit like the most overwhelmedness that I've ever felt. Because again, I've never been full time social media, so like, leading up to now, it's it's been like, yes, I did social media, and I was uploading my tutorials and I was you know, I was on Instagram and YouTube and stuff, but it was really like I could only do it when I had my free time. So there was still something taking me away from social media, like freelancing or like you know, when I worked retail, it was like I still worked all day and then I kind of got a break from it. In that sense, now it's almost like I have all the freedom in the world, which is amazing, but it's like because I have all this freedom, I almost have to teach myself to set those boundaries and like really make sure that I'm still prioritizing time away from it otherwise. I literally like I had to step away from my social media for a week, like probably three weeks ago, and I was just like fully transparent with my audience, and I was like, I just like I'm just not I just don't feel like myself. I feel like I'm like in this weird fog. I just really need to like to take a moment to realize I'm alive and I'm like in real world, you know, because it's very consuming, especially with when you are a creator. But then also like you feel like you always have to be genuinely on social media to like know all the trends and like make sure that you're like still with it, you know what I mean. So um, yeah, it's definitely it has its moments, especially because I've only been living in North Carolina for six years, but I was born and raised in upstate New York, so I still have a lot of like my core besties that I grew up with, you know. So again, like social media like all that stuff is like also the only way that I can stay in touch with those people, So even just like simple text messages and stuff, I'm like, I'm overwhelmed by you know what I mean. So I do have to say that like my biggest advice, And honestly, the week that I took off was like the most I'd ever felt alive in like a year, because I finally was like breathing and like going for walks outside. It sounds so simple, but you know when you're just like so consumed. And I love what I do too, So that's the other thing is I just love to work. I love to be busy all the time, and I almost feel like if I'm not working, I get like that guilt where I'm like I could be working right now, like I could be productive, which is kind of a toxic mentality, you know. So yeah, I started journaling every morning and every evening and I've kept with it the past three weeks. And it's just crazy how like simple little things like that that you wouldn't think would be all that impactful was so impactful. Like I felt it within three days. I was like, Damn, this feels good, you know, like to just like sit and like write to myself or read a book or whatever. So yeah, it has its moments, but you know, you just have to learn how to do it all in moderation and you know, set those boundaries with yourself. Well, kudos to you for even being able to say, like, for my mental health, I need to step away. I feel like in this day and age, people say that and it's so much harder to do, especially when it's constantly at your fingertips, And it sounds like it was very needed. One thing I want to ask you because you because you even said you have to prioritize your time obviously, whether that's for your personal life or content creation or just being on social media to learn the trends and the ticks. So I I'm sure our listeners would love to know this too, But for me personally, I like just started kind of going on TikTok and like I'm still trying to figure out what the hell I'm doing. I do not go went on TikTok. I was so overwhelmed. It's just like getting a new app. Yeah, you're like, I don't know how to navigate this thing out. Yeah, you know, I don't get it. I truly don't understand it. And I'm so happy that I have you. But like, so, what does a day in the life look like for you when you're on social media, like trying to come up with content creation? Like what does that look like? How much time do you put into it? Like give me any tips please? Sure? So Honestly, I mean, this is just how I've always approached it. I've never been the type of TikTok or who like does all this crazy editing or vlogging, like you know, the TikToker is that like obviously put a lot of time and effort, like it's a production, like they use like a professional camera or whatever, or they do all these crazy transitions. I try with my transitions, but um, I just I don't I don't know. I just feel like people really love like just real moments, you know what I mean, So like almost like as if you were just picking up the phone and talking to a girlfriend. Or Honestly, it was crazy because I saw somebody talk about this on TikTok too, which I was like, damn, I guess that's like kind of what I do. And I think it's very effective. Is almost treating TikTok as you would like your Instagram stories. So when you're hopping on an Instagram story and you're just like talking about a random thing or whatever. That's kind of how I treat my TikTok and I just you know, and eventually I just think that that stuff like really catches up and people really enjoy it. I do have to say, the algorithm makes absolutely no sense. Your opinion on that, Yeah, because I saw another like all these random videos will come on my for you page though, people like trying to get tricks and tips to like make sure your stuff goes viral like this and one girl get video thing, yeah right, like nothing longer than seven secondance or like another one was U look back at your other videos that have gone viral and just look at like what time you posted or whatever, And all the ones that have gone viral from me are like three pm noon, two in the morning. Like it doesn't make sense, you know what I mean? So, like the algorithm I will never understand, and I just crossed my fingers every time. But yeah, and then I don't know, just using like any trending hashtags I guess worked too. But yeah, I think people just appreciate realness. You know, Becca was in my first TikTok video because I literally I had TikTok for a little bit. I mean I've always had TikTok, Like I downloaded it from the whole pandemic. It honestly kept me mentally sane. I feel like, yes, as it probably did a lot of other people. Um, but I didn't post anything until like a month ago, and Becca was on my first TikTok. We did a little dance. Oh my god, that was so embarrassing. I'm screaming. It was so embarrassed. It was a crazy Wait a minute, I don't even remember the lyrics, no freaking Cloe. I was with Michelle and then Serena, who's like who grew up dancing and I haven't danced in years, and I think you both kind of already knew the move. So I was thrown into it and could not, for the life of me, get it down. I was like, oh, it was Um, it was a moment, but yes, didn't. It entertained us for a really long time, and also entertained the guys who sat like many takes before we went on family Feud. So it's a workout too. I've tried doing dancing to talk maybe twice, and I'm not that never you guys, I will I've probably only tried to dance twice out of the like almost two years that I've been on TikTok Um. Yeah, it's a workout though, Like I've been sweating sometimes try to. Oh, I just trying to make one in general, because I have no idea what the hell is going on right right? You're like, it's just the anxiety, anxiety ranging right now and swamping deal. I'm fine, it's okay. That is so funny. Um, Okay, one more thing I want to ask you about TikTok and then we'll get into our game. But obviously we've seen Gracie, your dog, make appearances on TikTok Um. Is it just so much fun doing them with her? Yeah, she's just like she's like my child's kind of sick, Like she's literally like like I birthed her, Like I just love her that much. Like sometimes I um, I really think like I can only imagine the type of mom I really will be one day because if this is how I am with my dog, like, bless my child's heart, they're gonna get off of me. I get it. You love me like at Yeah, I'm gonna be a smother mother for sure like that, Yeah, it's I. Um, it's crazy because and I talked about this on an episode of my podcast where um, this was right around the time of my little breakdown where I was like, I need to take a break from social media. I was just kind of like one thing after another. But um, Gracie's health was very strange. There was something going on with her that I just didn't understand. So I got on the internet and I had another one of those vulnerable moments where I was like, you know, having a dog can be really stressful. Uma is that's the damn true, you know, that living thing that you have to take care of. Obviously there are there are bigger responsibilities like a human being, you know. And I never like discredited that, but um, that was probably the first time that I've ever gotten hate in a way as well, because I do like to consider myself pretty lucky that majority of my audience or the people who see my videos are very supportive and kind people. I don't really deal with a lot of hate, but I feel I felt like that TikTok like really got on the side of like angry single mom TikTok, and they were all in my comments like well, if you think a dog is overwhelming, like just imagine having a child of three, working twelve jobs and being a single mom. And I'm like, damn, I never ever discredited that. But also I just felt like that was and that like I had a whole topic about that on my podcast where I was like, just because other people have bigger struggles or bigger battles, doesn't mean that yours is any less of a struggle, you know what I mean, Like, doesn't mean that you should feel discredited in your feelings. So um, yeah, that was like a whole Gracie's fine now, but yeah, but yeah, I love her to piece it. So yeah, well I'm glad that you say that too. It's and again to never discredit anyone, but like you're living in your life like that was the moment that was the biggest burden for you, And it can be stressful. Dogs can't talk back, trust me, I get it. I'm a doc mom and I'm like, I have constant anxiety over minnow where I'm like, holy shit, how am I going to actually raise a human being if I'm like this right now? But I get it. But yeah, like, and that's that's actually The scary part of social media is when people, the trolls, will they'll try to diminish you and you're struggling, yeah, and but they always like want to one up, and it's like this is not a competition here, like this is just a place for me to share my story. Like Martha, this isn't a competition. God bless you and your children. But like, you know, okay, that was question. Do you respond? Like do you t say, like, let's say you see a message, do you I know that we all probably are like you want to respond right in our heads. Don't do it. You know. I've probably slipped up a couple times and responded, But I do have to say that a majority of the time, I really do try to hold myself back because I think that, well, when you're just stooping to their level, you're giving them exactly what they want, which is a reaction, right, They want to know that they got to you. So I simply turned the comments off on that video, which I've never done before. But I was like, I don't want this anymore, and I'm not going to give them the power to feel that they can. Everyone can say whatever they want. Obviously, we all have freedom of speech, but this is my page, and so if I don't want that energy, I'm turning the comments off. So and then also it keeps me from getting upset. It keeps me from reacting and maybe saying things in the heat of the moment that I would not be proud of. So um, yeah, try my best. I'm sure you can find something somewhere, or maybe I got a little sassy with a troll. But majority of the time I try not to respond because it's just not worth it. It's really and it's a stranger's opinion of me. That again, it's like kind of tying back to what we said before, where it's like that was only like thirty seconds of my life that they saw, and so their opinion is so so irrelevant because they have no idea the bigger picture of the rest of my life. Yeah, you know, I don't so much more reflection of that, you know what I mean, Like when someone's commenting on someone's page like that, it is more reflection of them than because honestly, like when I'm I've never left a hate comment in my life, and I'm proud to say it. So it's like, but also I've just been very content in the type of person that I am or just even just my life, And so I know that if anyone is going to leave any type of hate or just negativity on the internet, there's just no way that they are like sitting on a yacht somewhere, like really happy with their life, Like they're probably feeling a certain type of way about themselves or where they're at. Um. And I honestly, in moments like that, I just like I pray for them, and I'm like, I just hope that they get to be in a better place where they don't feel like they have to hate on strangers on the internet. Yeah you know, like right really yeah, where they don't have to leave a thirty second remark that isn't going to do anything for anyone. Now, I feel like truly burns more calories moving then you would have if you just just like a paragraph like you use grammarly on this to make sure that there are no errors, like come on, well sometimes sometimes sometimes they don't. Sometimes they don't want to be honest. Yeah this even English. Yeah, yeah, plus your heart, um, Ali, it has been so much fun getting to know you a bit more. But we do want to get to know you even more because we have a game that we want to play. It's very easy. It's basically a rapid fire question that we're going to ask you and you just give us the answer that comes to mind. So, okay, I'll start it off. It's very easy. Um, what is your guilty pleasure? Um? Pizza? Is that deep enough? That's not deep enough? Pizza? We love? Okay, I can't emplain what is your signature? Drink? Oh, is supposed to be rapid fire. I feel so under pressure, but I honestly, I'm so bad about drinks. I just get a vodka sotta with pranberry, which is so boring simple? Yeah, wait, I have to champagne or just champagne a girl. Oh, I will send you. I have a sparkling wineline, so I will send you some of mine after that. Ali, when are you most productive in the evenings? Okay? Like it's the weirdest thing, but I feel like, as soon as the sun is setting, I'm like, let's work what backwards? Opposite? I'm doing my makeup at one in the morning. Why? Like you? Okay, what is what is your zodiac sign? And if you know anything like about your sign? What is like the most or what is the biggest trait that relates to that you're smiling? Yeah, I'm do you guys? Somebody guesses at all? Oh? Um, are you a Leo? No? Are you a Gemini? No? Oh but I'm close. So I'm actually a Taurus. But I'm like the very last day of a Taurus bors. Yeah. Um, but I would say, uh, three major things that I would say definitely aligns with who I am is I'm very stubborn. Um, and I really love my food. I love food, and I love sleeping, so like naps and food are very important to us horses. So yeah, I feel like you are my twin. Okay, food and sleep. I'm like, yes, okay, Ali. What is one thing that you never can leave your house without? Oh? Probably my phone? Yeah, I can't leave the house without my phone. M What is your favorite your all time favorite dessert? Anything? Chocolate? Probably chocolate ice cream though, like chocolate ice cream holds my heart so deeply, or like if it's chocolate ice cream with a um or vanilla, I guess. But but if it has like a chocolate brownie or like a chocolate cookie with it done like a warm one, Yeah, that if you could have any superpower, what would it be? Um, maybe is time travel is superpower? Yeah you can time travel? Are there superheroes that can time travel? I think so, okay, it's a super power, it's anything. Yeah, yeah, right, I've invented it. Yeah, I mean, yes, definitely time travel. I don't know why, though, maybe back I'd go back. I'd probably go back, and like it'd these stupid little things like if you know, the waiter was like enjoy and I was like you too, Like I'd be like thank you. I couldn't get that so much. But like the other day, I went for a walk and I didn't take I didn't take my tag off of my new leggings. So I was walking all around the city like with a tagging out my butt and like this girl, no one told me either, Like I don't know. I feel like if I was in the elevator with a girlfriend or not even a girlfriend, like a stranger, like a chicken, I tell them. I would tell her. Yea, maybe maybe they thought you wanted to return it afterwards. No, yeah, maybe I was taking them for a test drive. And yeah, I just like these or whatever it's style boys leave like the stickers on their heads. Exactly. It's the same thing, right, yeah, same thing. The worst is I've actually worn a sweatshirt several times, washed it several times, and then on the fourth fifth time wearing it, realized it had the tag on it. Oh my god. Well you could write for that brand and say, hey, listen, the tags are durable. Yeah, that's a good tag. Good material can go through like a windstorm and they're fine a rainstorm. Okay, I'm super curious about this one. Who is your celebrity crush, zac Efron? You did not even hesitate? No high school? Did you watched high school musical? Then? Yeah? He was like well, I would say Jesse McCartney was probably like my first crush, but zac Efron ever since has been a huge I love him, love zach Efron. Okay, yeah, what is one beauty trend that you rocked but wished you hadn't? Besides the tag on the pants, I would say the bronze were all over the face phase that we did once upon a time where we didn't use bronze or just for the cheeks. It was like all over for the face as the setting powder, almost like I really wish I didn't do that. I'm super super thin eyebrowsed you guys. Oh yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. I'm still trying to back What is what thing on your bucket list? Um? Can it be careerly related? Yeah? Obviously yeah. Um, I would say it's like attending a red carpet or being on a red carpet. It's like such a major goal of mine, even within this year. I would love to make that happen. Okay, bucket listening, for sure, we will manifest that now. Yeah, I love it. Well, that's that's a good question to go out on because I want to leave it at that because I really want to make this happen. Um, but before we let you go, every week we share our rose and our thorn of the week, which is basically like our highlight, favorite moment and then low light. So Michelle, do you want to start this off? Yes? I will start this off. Um. My rose would be that Nate ended up surprising me early to Minnesota. So he was supposed to like drive up on Sunday, but he ended up driving up on Thursday, And so when I went to my family's house for dinner, I like walked in. Give it Mama, hug and then when I turned around, he was just that was a good surprise him and Percy and my thorn would probably have to be um, oh gosh, I think I'm trying to think right now too. I'm like, oh gosh, I don't know. Let's all talk about positivity and I'm like, what, Um, I almost ran out of gas on the freeway, busy busy for my car didn't beat at me, so you know, yeah, I got places to be Yes, all right, back, Well, the biggest thorn you have, I feel like exactly I'm having to complain about, you know, yeah for sure, Yeah, who wants do you want to go back? Oh yeah, I'll sort because I want to end with you, because we always want to end with our guests. Perfect, So I'm gonna start with the thorn because I want to end on a good one. But thorn is I feel like this is gonna be my thorn. Every week that I'm away from my dogs, but just being on the road, like being super homesick for my dogs, it's been very, very difficult. But um to kind of make up for that as my rose. This week when I celebrated my birthday, I was able to see my mom. I was able to see Thomas's mom and sister and just spend that day in Washington, DC with my family, which was so so so special. I was so happy that they came out there. That's awesome. I thought you're gonna say Thornie didn't get at old card for your birthday yet? Oh yeah, I mean obviously that's gonna be my thorn every day until Chipole sends me one. Okay, Chipole, all right, Alie, what about you hit us? Oh my gosh, I'll also start with a thorn so we can end on a happy note. Y'all told me this is a thing neat Nellie. Okay, No, not at all. Okay, Um, yeah, that's hard. I feel like I've been having a pretty good week. Um. I would say my thorn is maybe my anxiety. She's been she's been pretty active this week. Um yeah, but just it's just like random. It's like sometimes just for no reason, you know. But um, and my rose. Can I say doing this like be Ye made it? Okay, I I love it. This has been so fun, This is awesome. Appreciate y'all for having me, of course. Well, Ali, it has been such a pleasure having you and I think this is a really good episode for anyone listening, but especially women, young women. UM to go and find you and check out your TikTok, your instagram and your podcast. So before we let you go, can you just direct everyone of where they can find you. Yeah. I appreciate that so much. Um. Well, obviously my podcast is available. It's called Girly Podcast, so it's on Apple podcast, um, Spotify, all the things, and obviously TikTok. My user name is Ali underscoreost. Same with my Instagram and my YouTube channel. It's been my name pattywhere and I'll probably be there for you can't miss her. All right, Alie, thank you so much for joining us. You're welcome back anytime. You have been such a pleasure and just an absolute gem. So thank you. You guys have been the sweetest. Thank you so much, so nice time to take care all right, well, Michelle, I absolutely love you. Thank you for another fun week. Thank you to Ali for joining us, come back anytime. I feel like we're soul sisters after that. 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