BIG FACTS feat. Jermaine Dupri

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Speaker 1: This Big Bank, DJ Scream and Baby J with the number one podcast industry, Big.

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Speaker 2: Facts, Live from Revolt Studios. It's time for Big Facts, Big Bank. What up? Baby J? What Up? DJ Scream? I'm here. We are welcome in today finally Jermaine dupri big what's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you so long to pull up on this. Man, you've been heavily requested by.

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Speaker 4: I ain't never know y'all wanted to come on watching, man, I don't know what's up with you? Everything solid?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know?

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Speaker 4: Excited about this, uh this little Magic City documentary, I say little City documentary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Magic City document Magic City documentary, Big Magic City. Why was now at the time? Why was it so important to document the history and add a soundtrack to the legacy of Magic City? Why do you feel like now is the time?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's this is just the universe because it's the fortieth the anniversary of Magic you know, so I think it's just forty you know, he celebrated forty years. I ain't know that when we start trying to do the documentary and I ain't even know when it was gonna catch as far as getting a deal which stars. So I just think it's just the universe just making it feel like this the time.

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Speaker 2: Is supposed to go and not the speed to this too fast. But it's on my mind, so I might as well bring it up. Now you is that accurate? Did you say ten thousand a week at Magic City every week for ten years or was your Caviain love it?

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Speaker 5: I mean, Jay's seen me in there every week.

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Speaker 2: I'm there.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying like, oh still now yeah this now I'm now I'm there every week. What I'm saying, yeah, like so that's like this was I mean, you know, if you think like Gentleman, it was between Gentlemen's Club and Magic City because Magic say had burnt down right, so that everybody had went to the Jump's Club, then Gentlemen's Club, then Magicity came back, so it was between both of them clubs.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, every.

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Speaker 4: Monday was it was, you know, and probably went more. I mean, I'm just that's just a guaranteed day that you would see me. But I was in there at least three times a week, and I'm saying you don't even think about like I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Drink like that no more, but I used to drink like so.

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Speaker 4: You buy four five bottles of champagne, you probably in.

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Speaker 5: Two thousand right there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like.

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Speaker 4: That's just that's that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: If you got like five.

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Speaker 4: Sixty people with you, you at you at two thousand dollars worth alcohol off rip, right, you gotta spend five thousand in Magic City at least?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I do you do?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But it's just I mean, you gonna end up doing it anyway if you try to, If you try to slow roll it and go twenty five, you're still gonna be in there for like three four hours. You gonna you're gonna get tired of not having no money, seeing everybody else throw money. You're gonna get you another twenty five. Now you at five, You know what I mean, it'll go.

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Speaker 2: Bout for you.

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Speaker 1: You know you ain't number like three two three songs. If you're feeling good and it's lit.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. This just Atlanta, Real Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: A former strip club veteran.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying it's just real Atlanta coach.

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Speaker 2: It ain't not like if.

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Speaker 5: You really do it, it just it ain't even.

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Speaker 4: I have my homeboys called me like why they acting like that that ain't no money.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, you know what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying, Like when you add it up in some money, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, if you add them anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, if you add them anything that we donet did our heads some month.

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Speaker 1: Right forty years Man, that's a long air term, bro. Yeah, it's crazy how that line up you said. It wasn't even it wasn't even planned out to be to do the anniversary for the forty years and do it.

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Speaker 2: That's that's dope though, Yeah, because I mean we did. We did. We took the doc to.

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Speaker 4: South By Southwest two years ago, right, So so when I showed freaking it at south By Southwest last year a year before last.

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Speaker 2: Or it might be last year.

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Speaker 4: We also got a little placement to put to show like the first part of this Magic City.

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Speaker 2: But we ain't had no deal.

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Speaker 4: You just had an opportunity to show it at south By Southwest.

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Speaker 2: So then it was like my phone the man picture that you tell you everybody with the phone.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so we got opportunity to show it, and then from there I didn't know if we was gonna get a deal or not, because I was trying to figure out who was gonna show this. You know, it's cities and ass and this it ain't no you know what I mean, it ain't no faking. So to see, you know, to even go downstairs in the locker room, you gotta you gotta be you gotta be on something that will provide that that space.

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Speaker 2: So what.

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Speaker 1: Is it one part or two parts?

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Speaker 5: It's five five five parts? Yeah, it's a five part series.

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Speaker 4: It's out to be like a three part and then I guess when stars they wanted it, and they just kept trying to like squeeze as many different little pieces out of it to try to keep it going.

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Speaker 1: How long is the episode?

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Speaker 2: It was an hour.

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably thirty minutes now. It just was just as five you know, so I series, I mean five parts. I'm not really sure.

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Speaker 4: I saw it and I just saw like the first episode in Miami at the Black Film Festival.

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Speaker 5: Idea.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it feels like it was forty like thirty five to forty five minutes.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so let's take it like all the way, all the way, all the way, all the way back to the beginning when you first started as a kid, like garnering your love for music, and you saw your dad in the executive space and you know, doing his thing with the music. Is that one of the things that motivated you to want to like step up and be the boss as opposed to actually being an artist.

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Speaker 4: Nah, Like when my dad, when my dad day I was working in the music business here in Atlanta, is like moving around and doing like being like a roadie for like Cameo and Sosband and Brick when he was doing that. I don't I don't think I wasn't even old enough to even like understand for I want to do nothing, you know what I mean. I just wanted like I wasn't even paying no attention to what was going on. I just was like I know I was there, but I wasn't really paying no attention to it. I didn't really get the bug until, like I think, like rap, when hip hop started, like rap really started, so like the late eighties, yeah, like the late well let me see, well, no early eighties.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I'm saying I'm tripping.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the early eighties so like like I think like like eighty two and then like in eighty two, I started like seeing people breaking on TV and dancing and this type of stuff.

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Speaker 6: When did you start background dancing.

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Speaker 4: For yeah, like eighty three. But it wasn't like that wasn't even like a real job either. That was just like a coincidence that happened because the Fresh Fest, the first hip hop tour that ever went out, came from Atlanta, you know what I mean, Like people don't even be saying that, but the first hip hop tour that ever launched, it started.

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Speaker 5: Here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like one DMC, who didnny, the Fat Boys, the New York City Breakers, the Dynamic Crew, It was a whole tour. And the promoter he named Ricky Walker, he from College Park. He started the tour and the tours started here in Atlanta, and that just happened to be like away from me to like open up the show, Like they used to have these little places where you could open up show. You can always use on shows back in the day, where you could open up as long as you let the promoters meet their time. So it was like let JD open up and I opened up and I stayed perfect with the time, and it just happened with it was like, we'll let you do it the whole rest of the tour if you if you available.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I was.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't available. I was in school, you know what I mean. But it just happened to be an opportunity that couldn't pass up.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you started early, like the South movement, So how hard was it like the breakthrough being from the South?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Extremely hard, Like every every piece of it, you know what I mean, every every every inch of everything that I did was like always challenged, always questioned, always talked about, you name.

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Speaker 2: It was like it wasn't never.

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Speaker 4: What was the biggest hurdle though, The biggest hurdle was just trying to like I guess, actually break you know what I mean, actually finally get a record that actually made it out of Atlanta, out of you know, a couple of you know, in the other other bigger cities. Basically, I think that like the first rap group that I had was Silk Tom's Leather was these two female artists that I had met on the Fresh Vest and we had video, they had video, they had you know, what I mean, they got signed to one of brothers and all of that, but it didn't and break you know what I mean, It wasn't supported because I feel like the South I wasn't that good either, you know what I mean, So it won you know, the music wasn't that great.

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Speaker 5: So it's just a bunch of things.

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Speaker 4: I had to get better and we had to just like figure out a way for people to make people pay attention to us through right as far as yeah for me, yeah, So.

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Speaker 1: What type of respect that you gained when they broke through? Like did you see it immediately?

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of respect.

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Speaker 4: Not the respect that I would have got if it happened in this era, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I was nineteen.

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Speaker 1: So the.

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Speaker 4: Situation I had to go through at nineteen was that, you know, I'm a young boy trying to put out music and compete with all of these adults, and niggas weren't trying to hear that. They just won't like it wasn't a thing for a young person to actually be trying to compete with with adults and hip hop. So I was, you know, I got was getting dissed. I was, you know, it was every everything that could possibly happen to a younger I was. I was getting treated like a young boy. It was a young boying me to death, you know what I mean. So it was a bunch of like it was like even like the like I was like the first teenager to ever have a number one record on Billboard, you know what I mean, But that it ain't even get celebrated because when nobody else doing it.

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Speaker 1: So when you think you see me at your feet like I'm.

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Speaker 4: Here, it's a strange because you know what I mean, Like it's feel like it feels like it's been that fight for me for a long time, like and I just started not caring about it.

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Speaker 6: You don'd it for you?

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Speaker 1: Not? Hell?

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Speaker 4: No, Escape was definitely like a even more of a challenge because it was the first time I ever wrote and produced a female R and B group, So I didn't really know what I was doing. I just was going with what I wanted and what I felt. But yeah, it was tough with Escape. It was like really really tough because the same thing Escape was young, they were still in tra cities when when I signed them, do you feel like they.

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Speaker 7: My question is do you feel like their image was part of the reason.

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Speaker 4: That no, I was all a young it was because we were so young, like you know, like I said, I'll be telling people.

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Speaker 2: All the time.

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Speaker 7: You know, they were like they came in like they could sing like funk, but they were kind of like on the Tomboys ship. They weren't on the like the super sexy like you know vixen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They was kids. They won't and they weren't even trying to dress like.

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Speaker 2: That because they was kids.

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't even like I could be like, you know, man, let's put on some heels, and they weren't even with that type of shit they was on.

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Speaker 2: They was young, they was in school.

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Speaker 4: So it was just the fact that being young, Like in the music industry in the nineties, in ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, the whole music industry was the old person spoiled, right, you know what I mean, it one made for nobody young. So what I was trying to do and what I was doing, niggas wasn't trying to even they was trying to.

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Speaker 6: Look were like being met with resistance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every time, every time they was trying to look the other direction, like y'all trying to change us, you know what I mean, y'are trying to move y'all trying to move us out of the way, and you know, and like, like my biggest hurdle with Escape was that they were so young and they was making R and B music, and all of the radio stations even like if you want a three v won three.

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Speaker 5: Used to be an older sounding station, right, it won't.

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Speaker 2: They didn't.

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Speaker 4: They didn't represent hip hop and on RB the way they do now. Like it used to be just an R and B station that played a little bit of hip hop or a little bit of rap. And the records that they played was in vogue, you know what I mean. If you look at in Vogue and Escape, that shit looked like night and day, right, Yeah, because these is grown as women and he's just a little bit the girls.

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Speaker 5: So that's basically what it was.

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Speaker 2: Okay, two part question about this man. First Off, how much hate came with that billboard when you put it up in the city, that social death billboard, love and hate, and that that was the same billboard that was replaced at one point in the b am F billboard.

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Speaker 1: W Right, Nah, Yeah, he's university the whole time, right, yeah, yeah they were. They was up by the stadium of the airport.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha. So how much love or hate with that billboard?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I really didn't know. I heard it one time. I tell Ron Cameron. I tell the story the time I was in the car ride and Ron Cameron was like, man, when JD gonna change that uglass billboard color?

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Speaker 2: And I was listening to.

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Speaker 4: Him say this on the radio, and I'm like, damn, okay, all right, So I didn't really get a lot of hate, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But then nobody tell me they wanted it up either.

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Speaker 4: Niggas want saying what they say now, Like now, niggas be like, yo, you took this ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I put it back up.

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Speaker 4: But before I put it back up, that's all people go. Why you ain't why you take the sign down?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: That represented Atlanta? Like you ain't say that ship when that up? By the way, that billboard cost me ten thousands a month. Question it was up for ten years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, same city money. You know what I'm saying. That's the same thing. No different. It's in the airport too. You got some ship in the airport too, right, Nah?

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Speaker 4: I think they had like a little they had something that they had like a little.

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Speaker 2: Coming up the escalator.

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Speaker 4: Oh nah, I was the first person that they put on the things to welcome people to the city.

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Speaker 1: That's like, this means I keep what I'm saying, find them for you gotta put me in there one day. Hey, let me ask you some j D. So, oh what about Maria? Did Mariah stamp it?

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Speaker 2: Nah?

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Speaker 4: Still I'm not because you know what's crazy about the Mariah situation is that the first time I worked with her, I ain't get I got a third single. So back in them days, you get like, you know, first two singles, that's the songs that really is the hits. The next records that come out, they just be like gravy, especially for an artists like Maria because she already she's selling a lot of records. So at least I ain't paying no attention to it because it was the third single, so I didn't even see it being like oh this getting ready to do something for me, even though when number one it popped off at the time, I looked at it like, oh, well, I got the third single.

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Speaker 2: I I gotta do better.

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Speaker 7: So let me ask you this, Like speaking specifically on like Mariah, the Mariahs and the Ushers and you know all those types of people. How is it different working with an artist of that caliber as just a producer as opposed to actually being a real life friend to those people.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean Usher, Usher won Usher when he came to me the first time. It was like Usher won no Superstar. So I was actually bigger than Usher when he came to work with me, because I mean it was success. So that was a different relationship than Mariah. Mariah's situation was crazy because it's like I didn't really ever really feel like I could do anything for her. I felt like, you know, I felt like she liked me and she wanted to work with me, and then we became friends, and I think that was like, so I was more into that part of it. I never really felt like I'm already put my hands on her and make her bigger.

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Speaker 2: I never thought that I.

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Speaker 4: Could do anything like that for her because she was already Mariah Carey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I could. You know, I always I always view myself as messing somebody shu up, Like I don't want to be that person. I'm like, let's just be friends. I ain't gotta go in the studio with you. I ain't gonna fucking shit up. I don't want to be that person. I don't want to even be known for that person.

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Speaker 2: So right, one real big conversation though, like with breakthroughs, like the Brat kind of broke through because it was the first female rapper to be platinum or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Was that a big breakthrough? Did you kind of start to feel some of it? I mean the female rap you know what I mean? For her more or less than anything. I mean that for me, I guess it was like a Wusai moment because that project was tough for me. It was hard for me to figure out how to get my niggas to like a female artist because because up until that point in time, I never saw that in my neighborhood. I never saw none of my niggas riding around listened to something people. I never seen none of them listening to Queen Latifa. I never seen none of them that one. My and I grew up in car culture, Like with your cars, I rocked sidekicks, Suki samurais all this shit. That's what if you had that and you had a system. That's what niggas was saying. So all myamies, they was righted. That's how they was riding. They never had that ship playing in the car. So I was always like, all right, here I go try this. Garing'd be tough as fuck. So I tried, I play a song. I just put the song in a CD player whatever, not even like try to like tell them what's going on. And I used to see the reaction. They reaction were never there. So it took me like two years to get to functified.

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Speaker 1: How you deal with like coming into some thinking that is gonna win and it don't do nothing Like how you deal with that.

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Speaker 4: I don't come in think it's gonna win. That's probably why I said little Magic City thing. I don't be I don't be thinking. I already prepared myself.

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Speaker 6: Prepare for the worst.

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Speaker 5: But I mean I don't do that as a defense mechanism.

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Speaker 4: That's just how I had to defend myself because I was I was never treated like, oh yeah, this ship gonna blow. It would never like that. It was always like fuck you, what he can read to do with this ship? Like you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 5: Everything every time.

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Speaker 1: So so basically you just put the work in and let it prove to you what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I don't know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: If I like it, that's usually what I'm always satisfied with me liking it. If people don't like it, you know what I mean, I can't I can't please everybody.

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Speaker 1: Who who do you think the goat artists out of here today? Period of all time?

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Speaker 2: All time? I mean it's a munch.

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Speaker 5: We got a lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Future three thousand and you know it's a bunch of belly cush now, it's a bunch of it's a it's a bunch of artists we got.

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Speaker 1: Who you think was the most influent say the words?

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Speaker 4: I think Future was the most influential as far as people wanted to in other cities trying to steal the sound I mean outcasts as well, but outcast you gotta be more into rap to try to steal they sound. So I feel like Future sound was easier for knicks to like in other cities to copy iakdown.

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Speaker 7: I totally agree, and I am all the way with that. But I also think that we have to include Gez that almost.

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Speaker 4: I mean not copy though they couldn't copy Gez sound I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about people.

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Speaker 4: That verbatim sound just like like from New York that came out that just like like you know what I'm saying, like I ain't never heard nobody sound just like Jeez.

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Speaker 2: They copy his content, They copied his content.

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Speaker 4: They tried, but as far as like really sound, I feel like niggas really ripped that future ship went crazy.

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Speaker 2: What about producers? Same thing.

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Speaker 4: I feel like all the producers, I mean a mafia, you put all them together. I feel like people just stole They just stole that sound, you know what I mean, like just really really trying to like take it. And you know what I mean. I mean, I think Lex.

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Speaker 2: Luga was like the first I was just getting ready to say that.

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Speaker 4: I think Lex Luga was the first person seeing you know what I mean. And after Lex, I don't even know what the Lex that now, But after after Lex, it just said like yeah, you know what I mean, everybody just starts stealing that whole ship.

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Speaker 2: I remember that.

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Speaker 1: Man, I went to a concert at Wolf Creek and the head DJ, you know, you know how you could be sleep on niggas Bro.

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Speaker 2: Got bro really like you.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't you know how you didn't give you a DJ saiding you play your ship. Yeah, I'm like, damn about the versus ship. That's who you think you'll do.

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Speaker 2: A versus with?

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Speaker 5: It be a good one, nobody that listen.

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Speaker 2: If if it would have I don't know that behind the scenes politics, if you know.

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Speaker 4: What I mean, I would yeah, me and puff me and puff versus was gonna be exciting, right, That's that's that's probably the most exciting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like that would have been. That would have been something that like I might have even would have paid to come watch because it would have been balanced.

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Speaker 4: If all his artists were cooperated, it would have been really perfect.

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Speaker 5: But that you know, I don't know that would have happened.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, if all of his artists would have cooperated, Uh, it would have probably been the biggest show period in hip hop history.

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Speaker 2: The artists, though, you don't think y'all could just y'all without the artists right there tune for tune and still be entertaining. Nah, you think you need artists? I mean I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying I'm just trying to say, like I just don't know, you know what I mean, you can't. It's hard to go toe for.

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Speaker 2: Told with me and i't. I ain't even trying to cap.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, like I go into like that's what I'm saying, I go, I got so many different areas where compative compatibles it ain't.

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Speaker 2: It ain't the same.

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Speaker 4: Like if I get into the bow Wow era of life, I don't know what bad Boy put out when bow Wow was number one on one on six, apart some.

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Speaker 1: Of that Mason puff shit. Remember they were dropping around in it.

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Speaker 2: Now listen, it's nah, not that time, not that time. And then still that was right after Biggie pass.

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Speaker 4: Right, Nah, not not not the lineup I'm talking about it. I ain't come out to two thousand, oh yeah, yeah, two thousand and one. You know what I'm saying, Like just back, you're talking about nineties. Now, I'm telling you, as we get in the in the latter parts of life where we are right now, I don't know, you know what I mean, It ain't.

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Speaker 2: But it's only twenty records, so that when I think about that, I.

00:23:21
Speaker 5: Can't play ten Biggie records against me.

00:23:23
Speaker 2: He got he got bigger, he got, he.

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Speaker 4: Got no, he got he got, he got, he got, he got a bunch of records. But I'm saying that the core of it, at the core of it, you know, you ain't see that day with me and was on the line I was. He tried to tell me he was gonna play victory against me. You're not gonna play victory against me.

00:23:44
Speaker 1: He could, look, that's what. But I feel like that's why you ain't gonna play victory against me, because he just said that.

00:23:53
Speaker 2: Y'all know ten RAT records and y'all could both go ten R and B records. Yes, yeah, we're the only producers that I know that can Maybe maybe doctor Drake could maybe you know Drake records.

00:24:07
Speaker 6: Listen, don't before y'all start with that.

00:24:13
Speaker 7: I'm not you know what I'm saying in terms of like total like you said, the total scope of like rap, R and B, fucking kids, whatever, whatever, diversity. Not taking anything away from doctor drayd Off because he's one of the phenomenal goats of this ship whatever whatever before y'all start that ship. But it's like, I don't I don't place I wouldn't place him, like with with the JD or Diddy when it comes to like the R and B ship or the you know, the the formulation of like the younger you know what I'm saying.

00:24:51
Speaker 6: People, because he's so up there, like I don't, I don't.

00:24:55
Speaker 2: I just if it was a versus I would it would makes sense if it was J. D. Puff or j D. Doctor Drake. That's what I'm saying. That's my opinion. That's the only one know.

00:25:05
Speaker 4: Me and Puff was like gonna be the best, But that would I was gonna was gonna and.

00:25:10
Speaker 7: Him and would be more comfortable than him and him and doctors right and opinion.

00:25:14
Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, I was gonna have fun with the person, you know what I mean? Like even though we joked back and forth and both.

00:25:18
Speaker 7: Of y'all are like both of y'all, y'all aren't like it wasn't gonna be some ship where y'all like fake get into it or no ship like that. Both of y'all have that same camaraderie. So would have really been like a big ass party. It would have been.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: It was gonna be fun. It was gonna be fun.

00:25:33
Speaker 4: And we got artists that could go, Like I said, you know, one twelve against Jaggs, Escape against total exactly Anthony Hamilton against Carl.

00:25:42
Speaker 6: Thomas exactly exactly.

00:25:44
Speaker 2: You know it was gonna go down. It's gonna be something.

00:25:48
Speaker 1: Hey, what about should talking that ship about? What happened with that ship? What suld what it's about about? Bow wow bow wow? Like he had by while saying went to jail and then came out. You had them blew him up, acting like you're supposed to own some money. He's just dropped the interview about that.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: I saw pep.

00:26:10
Speaker 4: Somebody assumed me if it's the truth, I'll be telling people our time.

00:26:17
Speaker 2: Somebody, if somebody owe you some money, I won't man some type of way.

00:26:22
Speaker 5: Somebody owe you some money.

00:26:25
Speaker 4: You said nine times out of ten, if somebody, if somebody really owe you some real money, and they got somebody signed to you, right, Okay, they signed to you, and you got proof that the artist is signed to you, you're supposed to get your money, right.

00:26:39
Speaker 1: Oh he thought he was just gonna debo you out some money. That ain't going.

00:26:44
Speaker 2: I'm saying that.

00:26:45
Speaker 4: I'm saying I'm little so niggas always gonna try the little boy me my whole life. That's all I'm telling you. And the music shit just that I'm a little nigga. Niggas be trying to little boy me, that's cool, But I'm just saying I play by the real rules. Like if he's I do you I would have paid them? Yeah, you know what I mean.

00:27:04
Speaker 5: He ain't signed. I ain't see no contract. Yeah, you know what I mean.

00:27:07
Speaker 4: And shure he be talking in a world where niggas don't understand this. Niggas don't understand business. If they did it, it'll be more millionaires than it is that we got out here. Niggas don't understand business. So niggas just be going off of yeah yeah, yeah, it ain't no yeah yeah over here.

00:27:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't got that nah nah. Hey, so how did you know jay Z with jay Z early on? Because you brought him to the South first, right, Yeah, I ain't no, I ain't no. Like I said, I'm going off my taste.

00:27:36
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, I don't know if people gonna get into him, you know what I mean. What I did know was that me being on the fresh Fast, I got a chance to live in New York in state in Brooklyn, and I seen like what hip hop was to them and what hip hop was to us, Right, in Atlanta and new rappers that came out of New York people, they embraced them, really really, you know, they really embraced them. They also, if you could rap with these guys, they'll put you in the you know, they'll put you in the space where Okay, he lyrical, he got some minds. So here I am doing my album, and you know, I'm writing all these songs for everybody else, and people telling me I should do my album.

00:28:22
Speaker 2: I write my own raps.

00:28:24
Speaker 4: So I'm like, shit, I want to do a song with a nigga who niggas think could really rap. I'm still trying to prove myself to the world by doing that more or less than anything. I'm like, let me get on a song with jay Z, then y'all niggas will stop saying JD don't do nothing right, kiddy raps or whatever whatever like.

00:28:40
Speaker 5: So That's what I'm thinking in my mind.

00:28:42
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to put myself in the same blignement with niggas who people think really could rap.

00:28:49
Speaker 6: And what made you?

00:28:51
Speaker 7: What made you pick money and the thing to be that song to showcase your skills as well as his.

00:29:01
Speaker 2: It just happened. I was I was picked.

00:29:03
Speaker 4: I was going to pick him up at the airport, and I'm listening to Can't Knock the Hustle And in the song, that's what he says. In the song, he says, I'm deep in the South, kicking up top game, screaming through the some roof money and the thing. And when he said that, I'm like, why did he say the South?

00:29:21
Speaker 2: You know?

00:29:21
Speaker 4: He talking about me, Like you know what I mean. I started like visualizing this as like this is this a message from somebody telling me JD.

00:29:30
Speaker 5: This the part with this it right. So I'm and I'm driving like that.

00:29:33
Speaker 4: I'm I'm late to pick him up, so I'm driving fast and I'm I'm down that.

00:29:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm down Old National.

00:29:40
Speaker 4: So i ain't that far from the airport, but I'm saying, I'm I'm swerving and I'm getting there fast, and I'm listening to it and it's saying that like screaming through the some roof money and anything. And I'm telling y'all, I'm at Magic City every night spreending his money. That's what I'm thinking. It's like just me, this this is my life.

00:29:57
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that video that vision is crazy.

00:30:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:30:02
Speaker 1: Hey, what do you think the good and the bad is about Atlanta then?

00:30:05
Speaker 2: And Atlanta now?

00:30:08
Speaker 4: I don't feel like there's no hustlers in Atlanta no more, you know what I mean. Then it was hustling. Niggas was hustling. Everybody out here was trying to hustle first to get a deal. And I feel like the independent mindset hurt Atlanta because Atlanta was built on hustling to get a deal. It was wasn't built on you do it yourself. It wasn't built on niggas trying to put records out theyself. If they would have did that, then we would have blew up when Itchi Bud was here, right, you know what I'm saying. But want niggas didn't blow up when Itchi Bun was here. Niggas like Shade too and them niggas was that Itchi Bund. My generation of me, we came in. We went straight to Columbia, you know what I mean. I went to Sony, Rico Wade and went the end of scope.

00:30:54
Speaker 2: Ship. Polo went to end the scope.

00:30:57
Speaker 4: Every young nigga out here that was doing what they was doing, they was want to get bags from these companies. You don't see that no more, you know what I mean, everybody trying to act like they're doing it independent. I get it, I understand that, But that's still that's that ain't the nature of this city or how the city was built from the music standpoint.

00:31:15
Speaker 2: You think that when they talk talk about producers names such as yourself and and Rico Wade, like it's a little bit of a handicap because of the South thing, just because y'all from the South and representing Atlanta, like y'all should be mentioned more than adult talk.

00:31:30
Speaker 4: Of course, I mean, I mean, yeah, without it doubt like I it's it's you know, the fact that I got to spend time in New York and Atlanta back and forth. It gave me a different perspective of just like what needed to be happening with us as opposed to what's actually happening right, And a lot of times we be here in Atlanta and we be so caught up in this bubble in Atlanta, we don't be paying attention to what need to really be.

00:31:57
Speaker 5: Happening, right.

00:31:58
Speaker 4: So a lot of times we don't push ourselves, all of us pushing each other to get to them, to them conversations. You know what I'm saying, It be making it feel like, well, sometimes we don't even care, Like right now, it's all you know. I did a little dinner for the DJs about two months ago, and niggas went crazy on the in and everybody started beefing talking all this ship about who ain't playing records And then you know, out of space told me it won no hot males in the city. Then that started this whole conversation, right all the niggas.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the niggas starts.

00:32:32
Speaker 4: So so even with that, niggas want to argue about who hot in Atlanta.

00:32:36
Speaker 2: It ain't.

00:32:37
Speaker 4: It ain't but one rapper on the radio in New York that's from Atlanta. That's That's That's what I care about. Who is Playbo Cardi. You're the only person that's got a record on the radio in New York.

00:32:52
Speaker 2: City, not New It don't matter.

00:32:58
Speaker 4: The only nigga that got a song on the radio in Atlanta. That's why I've been pushing this Magic City ship. So I'm like, man, we we we fucking up about it.

00:33:08
Speaker 2: The wrong ship.

00:33:10
Speaker 1: We worried about the yes, right heard that, I'm telling you straight. So it's New York still the way they like. It's New York still the stamp for hip hop. As far as culture awareness, I think niggas don't give a funk about.

00:33:31
Speaker 2: Being you can make.

00:33:33
Speaker 7: But you know, it used to be like to where like if you could get a record on the radio in New York or l A, then that was like the Grammy.

00:33:42
Speaker 4: Sure, but now now you can make it without it. Nah, you can't know why you say that. It's still culture awareness. These cities are.

00:33:51
Speaker 5: Still this place is still it's still the mecca of culture.

00:33:55
Speaker 2: If you take someone you really popping into the world. Let's take someone with a long tim in you're a couple of some names like Boosy who just ran laps around the South and get good. He been relevant a long time. God, it's a lot of people. That's why I feel like you.

00:34:11
Speaker 4: But I'm saying you put butsy on what level of who like Let's let's talk about Atlanta, right, Let's talk about Gez Ludacris, outcast t I.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: Gucci made a long time record. He made a long time without a record in New York.

00:34:26
Speaker 4: Okay, what I'm saying if you take them five artists who who the biggest.

00:34:30
Speaker 2: On that list.

00:34:32
Speaker 4: Get a list again, t I jez outcast Gucci Manucci, who I said, Ludacris.

00:34:43
Speaker 7: But are you Are you speaking on just the biggest from a musical standpoint or just the biggest from an overall standpoints?

00:34:51
Speaker 4: Were talking about music, were talking about who got who really got ship going? When niggas say they popping, who really popping on this list?

00:34:58
Speaker 2: I'm talking about that they hight they hike, Yeah, they hike.

00:35:02
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

00:35:05
Speaker 2: Jesus to me Jesus.

00:35:08
Speaker 4: Okay, take that's good. Take Jezy right, Jezy was getting played in New York. Jesus was in New York doing parties at the strip clubs.

00:35:17
Speaker 2: In New York.

00:35:18
Speaker 6: Jesus, Yeah, we show in New York.

00:35:21
Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying. You cannot you can't be popping just then now, you can't just you can't be popping.

00:35:31
Speaker 1: Who going to New York doing something?

00:35:32
Speaker 4: Honey on your They don't. But and they not popping. That's what the problem is. We ain't Atlanta not popping right now? You're right, The ain't no artists out here. It's popping. That's what I'm trying to tell you. The only ain't playing in New York. Nah, that ain't even on already on New York. They popping around here. It's not on already on New York. It's still you gotta reach out man.

00:35:53
Speaker 1: You say New York is the first first place to cross you over to going overseasons. Nah, nah, it's just it's just the first place that that basically to me, that bridge is all hip hop hip hop levels. If you love hip hop in the South, right, and you love hip hop from the North, and you start getting played like, it's just it's just the bridge of all. I agree, I don't like it like that, but that's what everything really.

00:36:23
Speaker 7: But do y'all think that that goes back to the whole ship about there always being some sort of like slick New York nigga Atlanta nigga, Like.

00:36:36
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what it's like.

00:36:41
Speaker 7: It's all like not even like Atlanta nigga, but just from the South, Like you know, it's always been kind of like a thing like with Atlanta niggas and New York niggas, like South niggas and New York niggas, like.

00:36:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we always been cool enough to get to that to advance and space, right, and if and niggas. No, if you advance in that space, you basically have advanced. You have advanced, and it ain't gonna be no, it won't be no whole backs or nothing if that. If you start popping in New York, I'm gonna tell you, like I when I put out the franchise was the Young Bloods and Bone Crushing, niggas in New York hated me because I was staying in New York and I was running the label right.

00:37:29
Speaker 5: They hated me because all I was doing was centing my promo.

00:37:32
Speaker 4: Team out to their clubs promote Bone Crusher and young Blood, Bone Crushing, young Blood, Bone Crushing, young Blood.

00:37:40
Speaker 2: And Case Slay Rest in Peace.

00:37:42
Speaker 4: I remember one of the people came back and was like, Case Slay broke your record to night Man. When I gave it to him, he broke it and said, man, if you bring one of them, another one of them Southern records over here, you got them kill y'all niggas. Because the dominance, the dominance of what was happening is it's it's it's it's dangerous, you know what I mean. It's a dangerous space. And that's what happened. Once we started taking over like that, we started getting on the radio. Then New York started signing like Atlanta. Right then Atlanta started I mean, then New York started looking like Atlanta, you know what I mean. They got stripped clubs and this, that and the third and it just started being a thing.

00:38:22
Speaker 7: So do you feel like that the New York the New York crew felt like the Atlanta or Southern influence was a threat to their own personal culture.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: No.

00:38:33
Speaker 4: I don't think they knew it, but I think I think once they started paying attention to it, they started feeling it like oh shit, Okay. Then across the across the bridge, they got some you know, New Jersey. The niggas in nor they don't even really like really want to represent. They want to act like they like not really that connected. So was the nigga that had a patch overs I Freddie wat.

00:39:03
Speaker 5: Wop fed Wop went public and said, oh.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: He listened to his whole Yeah, you know what I mean.

00:39:12
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You got all these niggas saying all they listen to Wap. It's just like you could start seeing like, oh this ship. Oh you know what I mean, it's a different thing. But all of them are like what I'm saying, all of them artists that I named on that list, they was all respected and accepted.

00:39:32
Speaker 5: I think we make that list right now.

00:39:34
Speaker 2: But ain't none of them. But but but but on the flip side of New York one in validation from down South, they.

00:39:41
Speaker 5: Had to come always always got it.

00:39:44
Speaker 4: We gave it without even we gave it without even giving it.

00:39:48
Speaker 2: We gave it way he had to come get it. Guess what.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: See, that's what I think, that's what we fucked up at is when we got it, we take it all the way when they started because you gotta think New York ship went popping unless they came out on South beats at one time.

00:40:03
Speaker 2: Let's keep it real enough.

00:40:04
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, like I said, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I feel like New York always had a footprint in Atlanta.

00:40:13
Speaker 2: That ship was dead around the time got them in that.

00:40:17
Speaker 1: When all that future and that ship was dead.

00:40:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when future came out, like you know what I'm saying, you're talking about twenty ten, that ship right like we had it prior to that.

00:40:29
Speaker 2: That's a long time. Yeah, you're right, before up little Little John start doing them hot.

00:40:41
Speaker 6: From then the twenty.

00:40:43
Speaker 2: Stretch the hot ain't know boy, listen.

00:40:51
Speaker 6: To give me your hand man.

00:40:54
Speaker 5: It was now they had a long they had.

00:40:55
Speaker 2: A long run.

00:40:56
Speaker 4: But they also, like I said, they always had a footprint here. I feel like, you know, that's what I'm saying. I went through every piece of this. This what niggas don't be understanding about me. I went through every part of trying to get that right and get it wrong, you know what I mean. Like, so in the beginning, when I started throwing parties here in Atlanta, the DJ scene won cracking it won.

00:41:18
Speaker 2: No DJs in Atlanta. They even had no name. How old are you screamed, ye forty three?

00:41:26
Speaker 4: Okay, you probably want you won djaying You wasn't even DJing when I was throwing parties.

00:41:31
Speaker 2: I'm sure of it, right.

00:41:32
Speaker 4: So, so what I'm saying is it wasn't even know DJ cruise out here. That was really like they won on the radio. They definitely want to around.

00:41:41
Speaker 2: Oh, this is after a J team around.

00:41:45
Speaker 4: J Team been around, but J Team won. J tem was mixtapes. They they want things about going to the radio. You're talking about niggas who was on the radio. Let's started with well, not damns, it started with it started with It's started with Shabas and these these dudes that was on they had it was a state, we had five I'm talking about.

00:42:09
Speaker 5: So it started with them. That's what started being on the radio.

00:42:12
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is radio DJs using their mics don't know what I'm talking about.

00:42:18
Speaker 2: I ain't even a hip hop head.

00:42:20
Speaker 1: Bro, Like the first New York nigga, I'm gonna keep it real, the first New York nigga I ever listened to a fifty cent Wow. I know that's fucked up, but it is the truth. I couldn't understand all that fast.

00:42:31
Speaker 2: So no, so no, no, like no rough riders.

00:42:35
Speaker 5: They already mans were cool.

00:42:37
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I just couldn't understand that ship fitted seeing it seemed like, Okay, this is a nigga that could have been in the South with a New York accent.

00:42:44
Speaker 2: To me, yeah, I could just identify with.

00:42:46
Speaker 1: This story, like the fuck with this nigga?

00:42:49
Speaker 2: He going crazy?

00:42:49
Speaker 4: By the way, now listen, you see how you are, You see how exactly how you talking right? This is exactly the same way that they feel about Southern rap in New York. Right, So it's like, like, who gonna break through? That's the same thing, you saying the same ship. So they saying the same thing. Jay Z, I'm gonna do a record, U GK record, I'm gonna.

00:43:14
Speaker 2: Breakthrough, you know what I'm saying.

00:43:16
Speaker 1: That's always been the goal to try to figure out how to break through niggas that don't That's why I said, that's a hustle mentality though.

00:43:22
Speaker 5: You don't want to just be cool at home.

00:43:25
Speaker 2: You want to be cool you Yeah, and it's.

00:43:27
Speaker 7: Just like just like not to cut you off, but just like it's the same way, like in comparison, like when niggas are on some street ship, like when you trapping or whatever, like you're trying to expand your empire, so you're trying to take over another block. So for the New York niggas, or even for the South niggas, the other blocks were the North and the South.

00:43:46
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So it's like it's the same ship. Don't you get control of that, then you can take off of the world for real.

00:43:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what I'm saying.

00:43:51
Speaker 4: That's that's that's what I'm trying to say it hustle mentality, because you sit in and say if you want to say it don't matter no more than that's you ain't hustling to me as fuck concerned because I did that.

00:44:01
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying.

00:44:02
Speaker 1: You always want the next space, right, You want niggas fuck with you in this space.

00:44:07
Speaker 2: You don't want to go there and be like, oh, y'all don't know.

00:44:10
Speaker 4: Y'all really don't know who the fuck I am that need to be booing niggas in New York though, you had to go to the tunnel and make it.

00:44:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm more on West Coast music though.

00:44:24
Speaker 2: Listen from the West Coast.

00:44:25
Speaker 1: H I me listening Spice one Back then Snoop fordy Too Short, all that ship.

00:44:33
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

00:44:33
Speaker 1: That sounds more Southern than me. You know what I mean, I'm eight volum j g K Nigga man.

00:44:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's that's I mean. Nick.

00:44:42
Speaker 4: Can you the type of person that I had to use as my barameter in my neighborhood? I'm like, okay, just ain't here. Listen to this here, listen to this here, listen to this, you know what I mean. So I'm using that when I'm making my music, and I'm also using that when I'm trying to figure out my collaboration was and all that right when I when I did jay Z, all my own boys were saying the same thing as you, jay Z.

00:45:07
Speaker 1: It's just like when dropped to bring him out to me, that ship with trash New York.

00:45:14
Speaker 2: For game myself, and.

00:45:19
Speaker 5: I liked them on them too.

00:45:20
Speaker 1: Beats in there and to be easy, you know what I'm saying, slow sound and ship that bring him out.

00:45:24
Speaker 2: Even though that crossed them over, right, it ain't crossing them over. It just took to New York.

00:45:29
Speaker 7: Not yeah yeah, did you respect Memphis bleaks verse on around here?

00:45:35
Speaker 2: But that is down here round around here. Oh yeah, that was cool. Was good. Now, I feel what you're saying. I feel I got on jay Z, my bad. I got on jay Z. I heard him on on on on brush ship.

00:45:53
Speaker 1: You know they were cool here. He got New York nigga on the ship. But then when he got on the ship with cash money, then when he started coming into yeah, okay, what this ship was y'all? Yeah, it was like, okay, he started started to get on not not that my radar matter, but he started to get on my radar.

00:46:17
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Other than that, I couldn't.

00:46:19
Speaker 1: I can't go listen not and go back. After I got hip to Jay, I went back and listening to Ship like, oh, I was slipping.

00:46:24
Speaker 6: So you didn't like feeling it?

00:46:26
Speaker 2: What's that, Jake?

00:46:29
Speaker 1: I went back and listened to me ship and I'm like, oh nah, the niggas spin this ship.

00:46:33
Speaker 6: No, he like he overly was.

00:46:36
Speaker 5: First I had my road to the whole.

00:46:40
Speaker 2: Thing with the Black album. Hmm.

00:46:42
Speaker 1: Then I went back and started and been talking and ship slipping.

00:46:47
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, you had to like regurgitate his ship.

00:46:50
Speaker 2: I just went old. My mind went old enough.

00:46:52
Speaker 6: To even that nigga man, that nigga was, that nigga was.

00:46:57
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying. What y'all talking about right now is hip hop just what I grew up in where I come from. It's always been we gotta figure out how to get them niggas to like us, and them niggas gotta figure out how to get.

00:47:09
Speaker 2: Us to like them.

00:47:10
Speaker 1: Use Use Use advanced on the Hustle part of it because nigga thought, you want to be from New York back Manna, I wanted to be accepted.

00:47:19
Speaker 2: In New York be like JD.

00:47:21
Speaker 1: Don't fuck with the New York niggas. But you knowing br this is why I gotta be it if I want to be this.

00:47:26
Speaker 4: Is that's It's just hip hop, you know what I'm saying. And one nothing in Atlanta hip hop when I grow up fact, you know.

00:47:35
Speaker 2: What I mean?

00:47:35
Speaker 5: Like, we ain't had this, We ain't had we had V one O three had one they had.

00:47:41
Speaker 4: They played rap for a hour. Wasn't even Friday night. They played rap for one hour, right, one hour.

00:47:50
Speaker 2: You know.

00:47:53
Speaker 4: You can't play with four songs in one hour with them commercials they got on the radio, right, So the fresh part, the fresh part, damn Field, just what I had to do then what I'm living with. Yeah, but I go to New York, the whole city, w b LS kiss they got hours of hip hop on the radio. This is where hip hop is living. And I'm growing up in this and I'm like, just where I want.

00:48:18
Speaker 2: To be at?

00:48:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm doing hip I dance, I rap. I want to I want to be where hip hop at. You could folp me, but I'm celebrated, then nobody give me ship in Atlanta. I had to bring ship here. The matter like when the first time I did. I'm tell you when I did. I think the Brat. I think the first time I had the Brat was successful. She done went platum and all that. I called Billboard like, yo, y'all should come to Atlanta do a story on the Brat, dude, And I see y'all doing that ship with everybody else.

00:48:49
Speaker 5: There's like, well, we don't got no crew in Atlanta. You could fly us out there.

00:48:53
Speaker 4: I had to fly Billboard Magazine to Atlanta to get them to interview my artists for the first time ever, the first time coming to They weren't even fucking with the city. This is what I'm saying, Like, niggas don't understand the shit I had to go through me. I had to go through some shit to get niggas to pay attention me. I'm out here doing cotwheels and backflips.

00:49:12
Speaker 2: And all kind of shit. It was.

00:49:14
Speaker 4: It's just because that's just how it is. When you were the first you know what I mean, first person doing something.

00:49:19
Speaker 6: I remember you had to open the door.

00:49:21
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I wasn't even thinking about opening the door. I was just trying to get some shit done because I was watching everybody else. I'm seeing like niggas from the source magazines, they getting covers and this and and I'm like, damn, why they ain't fucking with us? And then they be like, well, we ain't got no crew to take no pictures in Atlanta. You wanta flies down there. I'm like, y'all want me to fly y'all so I can get on y'all magazine. I'm like this, that shit can't be right.

00:49:46
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm I'm young, I don't know.

00:49:48
Speaker 5: Ain't nobody telling me nothing. I'm just doing shit, you know what I'm saying.

00:49:51
Speaker 4: So, like I said, when I would go back to the DJ shit, I have parties out here, and I used to be thinking, like I want the parties to be the biggest parties in Atlanta, and ain't nobody. You know, the DJs in Atlanta they cool, but they ain't really they ain't really popping their name off. They ain't trying to be nobody. So I used to I used to bring I brought Kid Capri out here. A couple of times and I start, you know, I brought a couple of DJs from that had names, but Kick probably the biggest.

00:50:16
Speaker 2: That's probably the biggest. And then DJ Marsnham started this this this.

00:50:19
Speaker 4: Crew the super Friend and they was the first niggas to like be rebellious against me for doing ship with New York. And they was like, jad, you keep flying the New York DJ niggas down here, you know what I mean, let us do the parties and not aly I wanted them to give me that energy.

00:50:38
Speaker 2: I wanted that energy.

00:50:39
Speaker 5: I'm like, I ain't seeing this energy and never seeing this ship. Yeah, talk that ship.

00:50:44
Speaker 4: Tell me do the body, nigga, because right now I'm the person doing all the ship.

00:50:49
Speaker 5: I'm throwing the part of I'm fine do it talking.

00:50:52
Speaker 4: So it took a minute to get niggas, to get niggas wound up to even understand what my mindset was at. Niggas won't trying to play the game I've been playing.

00:51:00
Speaker 1: How important you think the DJ is in this day and time?

00:51:03
Speaker 4: Still important? The DJ just they they gotta be hustles though. The DJ A hustle though, what's the hustle for the DJ? D? I mean, if you got a radio show, you gotta hustle your show and let people know what time it is.

00:51:13
Speaker 2: It's just like this, you know what I mean.

00:51:15
Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta pop it off. You gotta show little content here and there. You gotta break niggas records.

00:51:20
Speaker 2: You got hustle.

00:51:21
Speaker 6: It is more digital right now.

00:51:22
Speaker 5: You got a job, You still got a job.

00:51:24
Speaker 2: But who's breaking records now? I don't know.

00:51:28
Speaker 4: I can't really say. I mean, because ain't no records breaking in the Limba fact, that's wrong. I mean, who got a bigger record than win Whammy? I think it's some records, but niggas just ain't breaking them. Wait wait, wait, wait, who got a bigger record than when Whammy in Atlanta?

00:51:45
Speaker 2: Is the record? Right now? There we go.

00:51:48
Speaker 4: That what I'm trying to tell you. And she signed just so everybody know she's not independent. But it broke here though it did break, it broke here. But I'm just I couldn't tell you.

00:51:57
Speaker 2: I don't want to. Now, somebody somebody is, some spot might have did still still be doing this thing.

00:52:07
Speaker 5: They gonna be breaking records.

00:52:08
Speaker 2: It be DJ know.

00:52:11
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that, but I mean overall like that's what did the trick and pushed it over the top in Atlanta.

00:52:17
Speaker 4: Though you think that, you think TikTok broke and yes, man, yes that's crazy. Yes, I think TikTok broke it globally. But I think in Atlanta, these little side, little hookah lounges and ship.

00:52:33
Speaker 7: What I'm saying, what made people want to request that ship to the DJs.

00:52:39
Speaker 4: I don't even think. I don't I don't think. I don't think it was being requested. I think the DJs was just playing off the top because it was it was.

00:52:45
Speaker 6: I was, I move around. It was definitely being requested.

00:52:49
Speaker 7: But it was being requested because these girls that smoked these hookahs in these lounges were on TikTok making videos to it, and they wanted to hear it in the club like loud.

00:52:59
Speaker 1: That record to breaking records. Though we can say, DJ who breaking records?

00:53:05
Speaker 2: I think we don't even will't we w don't even have it. We don't even have a venue big enough for that. In Atlanta.

00:53:10
Speaker 5: No more, they break, they still break, like I feel like, I mean.

00:53:14
Speaker 6: A lot of the club you gotta look at it.

00:53:15
Speaker 7: A lot of the clubs PA all the biggest are rested in peace, gonna like, ain't I still.

00:53:22
Speaker 4: Feel like it's still a little DJ's out here that that that's trying to break music, you know what I mean?

00:53:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, they little DJ because they ain't really they still ain't stepped into that light yet. But they get overlooked though, right.

00:53:33
Speaker 4: Nah, they're getting overlooked because they don't want to step into the light. You gotta step into You gotta step into the light. You gotta start making sure that people understand that you're the person, you know what I mean, Like, you can't be playing the back when niggas come. You gotta walk up to shake hands, say what's up. I'm just saying, it ain't that hard. By the way, it ain't that.

00:54:00
Speaker 2: Easy.

00:54:00
Speaker 1: Break the record. It is, bro, they gotta stand on it. Niggas ain't standing on them records if you if it's.

00:54:06
Speaker 2: A light like let me let me let me tell you somebody who made it a lifestyle that I learned from different DJs. So I salute them all. But like take for this is t rot at the Pool Palace. That's a record break. He's gonna break that record. You can hate that record.

00:54:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, his pole Palace, crucial days or legendary.

00:54:23
Speaker 2: You hate the record at eleven PM, you love it at eleven thirty, that's that's somebody stand Yes, he is that ship.

00:54:32
Speaker 7: But I feel like the another most important aspect of being a DJ and breaking the record and like doing all that shit is you have to understand the party and you have to understand for the flow, because in order for you to be able to effectively break a record, you have to get it in where it fits in so it'll make sense to your crowd. Because if you playing whim whammy right after fucking uh ship Uh, you're playing whimmy right after fucking Give me an example of some ship that don't make.

00:55:07
Speaker 2: Sense or some ship.

00:55:10
Speaker 5: Yeah you know what I'm saying.

00:55:11
Speaker 6: People be like, what the is this like?

00:55:13
Speaker 1: Especially Bro, you can stop the party silent and let these folks know I'm about to break this record. I don't give what came on before it will come on Ethic dish, the one I remember Nigga saying.

00:55:26
Speaker 2: Hold up, y'all, dish the record. It's different either when Jesus first came out, BRO was different. Then't funk with breaking the Nigga ship with another DJ talking that was a different but breaking.

00:55:40
Speaker 7: But they're doing this ship that they're doing the same ship now with Cardis ship with Swamp Swamp is talking all over the album and niggas are playing, yes they aren't.

00:55:57
Speaker 4: Whoever watching this that's not from this nigga is the pants in shoo. You see how he's talking.

00:56:06
Speaker 2: But you don't go out.

00:56:06
Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to explain.

00:56:08
Speaker 7: Like playing this ship in the club with Swamp Swamp is all like, you know, that's unheard of.

00:56:13
Speaker 2: DJ don't do that.

00:56:14
Speaker 1: It's just a little dick rhyme bro about like breaking the records. Bro, you know what breaking records? Yeah, I'm keeping the rill when women don't go out, But.

00:56:22
Speaker 2: I know that ship.

00:56:23
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's different. I don't go I know these JD.

00:56:29
Speaker 2: Remember when remember when records records riding? Bro, I'm telling you ship records.

00:56:36
Speaker 7: The hype is making another nigga play some ship.

00:56:40
Speaker 5: That he never would have played.

00:56:43
Speaker 2: Right. JD's right now because the Cardi dropping was already out of here. As soon as it dropped.

00:56:49
Speaker 3: Carty is so big as soon as lady, I don't, I don't listen.

00:56:55
Speaker 7: Listen what I'm trying to explain to you, I don't give a fuck if it was motherfucking Michael Jackson nigg certain DJs with another nigga's.

00:57:03
Speaker 5: Screaming his name the record.

00:57:07
Speaker 4: Car.

00:57:10
Speaker 2: I ain't saying they just dicked rhyme, but they just dick Ryan.

00:57:12
Speaker 1: What they doing is they playing the song because Cardi is big, That's what I'm saying.

00:57:18
Speaker 5: He already breaking no record, that's playing the song.

00:57:20
Speaker 2: He's already out of here, but he's.

00:57:24
Speaker 7: He's not typically an artist that you would necessarily hear in the club, So I don't consider that, Dicky.

00:57:30
Speaker 1: It's hyped he dropped the album, is hep It's supposed to be the biggest album of you. I'm an artist and he playing in New York, so it's hyped or not. You never heard before when women, we never heard of those girls. So when you're playing that for the first time down, a lot.

00:57:45
Speaker 6: Of people ain't ever playing Cardi in the club.

00:57:46
Speaker 5: What you've heard of him or not.

00:57:49
Speaker 2: But he's big.

00:57:51
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck, nigga. If the nigga was an elephant nigga, try.

00:57:56
Speaker 5: Oh my god, he already already rejected. It's already projected to.

00:58:04
Speaker 7: Be going up but up until now, these certain records and all this certain ship, you weren't hearing Cardi.

00:58:10
Speaker 5: In the club. But no, but you just heard card on that and fe that big as they peep.

00:58:16
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to tell him, he's already been accepted from the listen what I'm saying.

00:58:21
Speaker 2: Let me say this, he already just on Pluto ship.

00:58:25
Speaker 1: So all these niggas, who the niggas who say that niggas is it already having him on this ship before he dropped this boy ain't dropped it so long. But he made the right features. He was on Kanye, he was on goddamn Pluto, he was on Goddamn.

00:58:40
Speaker 2: All these niggas want this boy.

00:58:41
Speaker 5: He the only nigga on.

00:58:42
Speaker 2: YB new ship. So his hype is there. It shouts out to Cardi, I fuck with him. But what I'm saying is this hype and that he did it perfect.

00:58:50
Speaker 5: So when he dropped his alms like he already everybody who's somebody already had.

00:58:55
Speaker 2: Him on that ship. So when he dropped, hell yeah, we're gonna break this new Cardy.

00:59:00
Speaker 6: But what listen, listen, please tell you.

00:59:04
Speaker 5: Not been on none of that other ship.

00:59:06
Speaker 2: It will even still have been played over there.

00:59:09
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying to you is this is saying.

00:59:13
Speaker 7: What I'm saying to you is the records and ship that they're playing over and over again in the club aren't traditional hype records, like they're what would be technically considered like filler records off of his album, Like they're playing that kind of ship along with the hits like the Weekend Ship and the Fine Ships and the you know what I'm saying.

00:59:31
Speaker 1: The songs, and you know what I'm saying is, at the end of the day, if he didn't create the hype that he created through being on video with masks on them and god damn all that ship, they wouldn't have did that.

00:59:45
Speaker 7: The hype definitely helped. But to get you gotta understand, I'm speaking from a DJ standpoint. To get a DJ nigga to play a song with another DJ niggas screaming his name all through the records.

00:59:59
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a center shot.

01:00:02
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Esco started that, right, Le's go, let's go by putting his tags on the future records.

01:00:08
Speaker 5: You had to play, you had to play the future.

01:00:11
Speaker 7: You had all goes back to the artist enabling their DJ and allowing them.

01:00:16
Speaker 4: To because I think they had He had his tag on March Madness and you couldn't get it without the tag on it for the longest, right, and you con't play March Madness unless you had the tag on that.

01:00:27
Speaker 2: And I think on on they had the m l k H tag emil.

01:00:38
Speaker 5: K bitch on every every time.

01:00:40
Speaker 4: And I'm DJ DJ, so I'm telling you I'll be playing it and start off with the with they tag on it. I think they just started it, you know what I mean. I think they started that little. And I think I think these new DJs to what he's saying, you know, I think the new DJs don't even care about what you're talking about because.

01:00:59
Speaker 1: Theyk that swamp on this album as a feature, not as a DJ.

01:01:05
Speaker 5: They're not paying like like he he got a tag for his show on mix tape.

01:01:10
Speaker 3: Hes not goingad to be having JD screaming on the screen mixtape, you know what I mean.

01:01:14
Speaker 2: It ain't gready to be like that because it's his, it's his show.

01:01:18
Speaker 4: These young DJs, they don't have they're not they're not they don't have hip hop etiquette. It's a lot of motherfuckers ain't got no hip hop etiquette. I think they're in hip hop right now?

01:01:28
Speaker 5: You know so, I mean y'all both right, right, y'all about right? Because she she right?

01:01:34
Speaker 4: They in the club, they playing it. But like I said, the young DJs, they not tripping over the DJ. The DJ screaming over the thing back in the day that ship happened.

01:01:43
Speaker 2: That's still that.

01:01:43
Speaker 5: But that's hip hop etiquette.

01:01:44
Speaker 2: We don't have that no more.

01:01:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Swamp is featured on the album, like that's a joint album. They brought the man out.

01:01:51
Speaker 2: He on the show.

01:01:53
Speaker 1: It's a joint album, so it ain't he's a feature. It ain't like it's a DJ, like how Drama was nothing else, it was a sailor.

01:02:02
Speaker 2: It's sailor. If that record no dramma with him on turn. If that record get hot enough on you, you're gonna it don't matter ship if it gets hot enough.

01:02:18
Speaker 1: I just feel like me personally, you know what I'm saying, Most of most people are just following instead of Centrick. You know what I'm saying, Like you ain't finna hear a nigga listen to a record, and it could be hard nigga be like, Yeah, he's gonna want some money to play it, and he's gonna.

01:02:33
Speaker 2: Play it with altitude.

01:02:35
Speaker 6: But let me ask you this.

01:02:36
Speaker 2: He ain't finna break your ship.

01:02:38
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this. It's following the trend, really.

01:02:41
Speaker 1: Following, Yes, following the trend, because trend sellers like you back in the day you get trends are set to be followed. But I'm saying it, back in the day, we ain't got enough DJ to heal song be like just a hit or see a break and be like, I'm going to make my niggas play this.

01:02:58
Speaker 2: You ain't got enough of that no more. He niggas want what what? What can go?

01:03:02
Speaker 1: Instead of you know, even put some time in this little boy and make sure I turn any clothe back them, letting them jump around.

01:03:08
Speaker 2: They ain't doing that no more.

01:03:09
Speaker 1: Bro, niggas ain't doing Niggas waiting to see oh shit they fuck it on Instagram.

01:03:15
Speaker 2: They get it. Yeah, nah, I want to. I want to say that.

01:03:17
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying, I'm I'm I'm gonna talk about this when I say the hustling. The one thing about Magic City documentary that I feel like that I definitely don't see no more is you know, the rap niggas trying to get to the dancers, to get the dancers to get to rating and play their music.

01:03:36
Speaker 5: Like that's the that's the easiest.

01:03:38
Speaker 4: Hustle in promote music that you could ever do. But these niggas they too laying to talk to the dancers. They don't be trying to kick the dances a whole different way than what they suppose. So you can pull a dance to the side and talk to her. And you know what I mean, if you're gonna spend some money, spend your money with a dancer, she gonna play the song.

01:03:57
Speaker 5: She's gonna tell X rated when she going to stage. This is all I want to hear.

01:04:01
Speaker 4: X Rader ain't gonna even know nothing about what's going on. He gonna play the song because that's what his job is, right. That's a that's a hustle that's happening, that happened withinside these strip clubs that do None of these niggas be doing no more.

01:04:13
Speaker 7: But I feel like I feel like that's the formula for most Southern music that a lot of people from other places are kind of like not realizing it is the real cheat code for real because at the end of the day, you going in there, you spending your money, you're creating this look for content or you know, even if you just want to fucking spend your.

01:04:35
Speaker 6: Money on these ladies, girls or whatever. You know what I'm saying. And at the end of the day, they're not they're not understanding that.

01:04:44
Speaker 7: Like you said, it's the easiest way, like in order for you to like you go tell the girls in order for you to get this paper from me tonight or whenever. Every night, I need you to make sure that you tell this nigga in that booth that you want to hear this song when you go on stage and you.

01:04:58
Speaker 6: Turn up, I'm gonna turn up for you or whatever.

01:05:01
Speaker 7: They need their money, so they are gonna make sure that this nigga needs to understand that they need to hear that song every night.

01:05:09
Speaker 6: And that's how it goes.

01:05:10
Speaker 4: But you don't see that hustle happen. That ain't happening in Atlanta no more. Like niggas ain't doing that. I've been there every every week. I know they're not doing that.

01:05:20
Speaker 6: Nowadays.

01:05:20
Speaker 5: I got three of them spaces because they gonna figure it out.

01:05:23
Speaker 1: There's enough innovators. Man, it's my opinion, this is not enough leaders man, Like, motherfucker, you bring a Niggas song, they motherfucker be hard like it being hard like what's your ground? Oh damn sure, you gotta see it on the follow This ain't it no more?

01:05:41
Speaker 5: This shit could be a store, It could be whom women?

01:05:45
Speaker 2: Oh my god, but bro, who know you?

01:05:48
Speaker 5: Don't nobody know you yet?

01:05:50
Speaker 2: Nigga? You make them know me, y'all your own motion.

01:05:54
Speaker 1: It's the hustle, man, that That's what I'm saying. I think the hustle. We lost the hustle in the city. That's all fact.

01:05:59
Speaker 2: How we get it back? I don't know.

01:06:02
Speaker 1: I don't know.

01:06:02
Speaker 5: I mean people got to start paying attention to hustle.

01:06:05
Speaker 2: Huh.

01:06:05
Speaker 4: You gotta drop the next document, the all of the atl hustle. I mean, I hope you know what I mean. I mean, I hope niggas is paying attention to me. I'm running around kissing babies and shaking hands for this, you know what I mean? I'm doing what Trump did?

01:06:18
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

01:06:18
Speaker 4: You gotta that's what you gotta do. You can't just be sitting out here on the Internet. That shit don't work like that. That's what niggas be believing. That's another thing. That's another thing I'm telling you. Every nigga in New York got a podcast, y'all. The only niggas in Atlanta with the Atlanta Podcast.

01:06:35
Speaker 2: You realize the.

01:06:36
Speaker 1: Only way I ship, We're gonna have to go to New York.

01:06:38
Speaker 4: They got no y'all, ain't you ain't gotta do that. But I'm just saying, just think about that in the city of Atlanta, what was got? We got all these artists? How many big facts is in in this city?

01:06:51
Speaker 3: I feel podcast podcasts eighty five that's fucking with y'all.

01:06:56
Speaker 2: Eighty five sounds. We salute them. They do their thing.

01:06:58
Speaker 4: I mean, I ain't saying it from a distance. What I'm saying. Okay, eighty five South, that's true, I feel, but.

01:07:03
Speaker 7: I feel like eighty five South has a different direction with their content.

01:07:08
Speaker 2: I'm just saying podcasting.

01:07:10
Speaker 5: What I'm saying podcast so so okay, so that's true.

01:07:13
Speaker 2: What's up? No, it's not a lot of pods.

01:07:15
Speaker 4: I was in New York last week. Every nigga in New York got a podcast. Every time I turned nigga, you're gonna do my podcast. I'm like, God Damn, these niggas really is on this ship. They don't know they hustling. Every nigga they got they ain't ain't got this ship. They got a little goddamn little bo daggers they setting up inside and goddamn they don't give a fun They got a podcast.

01:07:36
Speaker 5: And I'm just saying, you just just see it like you.

01:07:41
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

01:07:42
Speaker 1: They just hustling. Yeah, they just they just move. They just get onto it faster. I think they gonna come South, gonna come and they by the time they come, it gonna look like they follow it.

01:07:51
Speaker 4: But know what I'm saying, y'all gonna be ten years, fifteen years in how long you say you've been doing it exactly what they gonna what they waiting on? This is what I'm saying. Yeah, y'all getting money up him. Y'all got a whole goddamn set. That's all nigga spposed to see you.

01:08:05
Speaker 3: Goddamn what y'all niggas need for encouragement, That's all I'm saying.

01:08:12
Speaker 4: That's all I Listen. I told my niggas listen, I sweat to god. I've seen all the niggas in New York. I said, I'm gonna give me a podcast in my spot. I got the space, I gotta face, I got the room. We can set this ship up just like this, all this ship, I got all this ship. If that's where, that's where it's going, that's where it's going. That's where you're gonna see one over that as so so that then you know what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

01:08:36
Speaker 1: You're right, niggas just waiting. What the fuck is niggas.

01:08:39
Speaker 2: Waiting on to see if it's safe. They want they want somebody else to go through the journey and make sure it's gonna do a certain thing.

01:08:46
Speaker 4: Nah nah man, listen, I'm telling okay, listen, Yes, what was it Saturday?

01:08:51
Speaker 5: What was Friday?

01:08:52
Speaker 2: Friday?

01:08:53
Speaker 4: I did million dollars worth of game A Magic City? Huh Saturday? Saddy, Me and I were the game magicit. Y'all got a whole y'all got way more cameras than them niggas had set up. They told me they gonna get They about to do a deal for one hundred and fifty million.

01:09:12
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.

01:09:13
Speaker 2: You watching me. You heard me say this.

01:09:15
Speaker 4: You don't go get no goddamn cameras and do what you got you don't want. You ain't got no hustle on your body.

01:09:20
Speaker 6: Shout out the while on agathering.

01:09:21
Speaker 2: Man, what I'm saying.

01:09:22
Speaker 1: The nigga got damn catching flights with the bag waller doing the whole ship right behind.

01:09:28
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

01:09:29
Speaker 4: That What I'm saying that them niggas hustling. That's all I was paying attention to as a little nigga. Niggas that was hustling. I ain't want to say a dope, but I was. I seen niggas hustling, like figuring out. I also knew I was too small to be trying to get into some gangster ship like you know what I mean, but just hustling. You can't stop me from hustling, Ain't it ain't gonna be. Ain't no way you could do it.

01:09:55
Speaker 1: What's niggs, man? What the next five years look like for Jad?

01:10:00
Speaker 4: I don't actually know, you know what I mean. I've just you know, I got a new deal with Hide and you know I'm gonna sign a whole bunch of artists and I'm trying to.

01:10:08
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna try.

01:10:09
Speaker 4: To just like do what I feel like, what I feel like I didn't do, or whatever I feel like I made minor mistakes. I'm just trying to fix them and just just roll out, you know what I mean, a lot, a lot louder, and just keep doing what I do.

01:10:26
Speaker 1: That's it.

01:10:28
Speaker 2: You do pretty on big facts. We appreciate you. Make sure you check out the documentary, the soundtrack, everything. Any final words for Hollywood. See.

01:10:35
Speaker 4: I seen him on here and I called him the next day like, nigg you gotta be, you gotta be on this album.

01:10:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go. Yeah, don't give it.

01:10:52
Speaker 1: Man, you got loot on that too. Yeah, that's the list one of his list down one time.

01:10:58
Speaker 2: Who all you got on?

01:10:59
Speaker 4: Let me pull up because I don't forget nobody. I got a bunch of mockers on this album, uh, same day. Yeah, supposedly if I can finish, if I get get close to finishing, Uh, let me see.

01:11:15
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of people I got.

01:11:17
Speaker 4: I got Travis Porter, I got bow Wow cause I got Tip to change, Young drou Quevo, Lula, Chris k Camp, Luci big Boy Killer, Mike, I got uh Tip Drow and I came what's his name? Yeah, I came, I League, Jay Monty, Sean, Paul Wannabe, bank Roll nine, Belly Gang Cushve c Low, Hollywood, I see Schooley, a little scrappy rock.

01:11:53
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I got you got yeah, you know what I mean?

01:11:58
Speaker 4: And I want it to be at first of just gonna be a soundtrack, and I was gonna get songs for people. Then I was like, you know a lot of these people I ain't did records with right, right, and Atlanta used to be a place where you could be on this side organized noise doing what they doing.

01:12:13
Speaker 2: They don't need JD JD doing he doing I don't need you know what I mean.

01:12:16
Speaker 4: We always making records separate, but so I ain't have an opportunity to make music with a lot of these, none of these artists. So for me, this album feel like a very like the first of you know what I mean, the first time going in the studio because I'm making records with people I ain't.

01:12:31
Speaker 2: Never made music with.

01:12:32
Speaker 1: You ain't putting no R and V records on it, not yet.

01:12:34
Speaker 4: I mean, what the K camp record I say, K Camp, Yeah, K Camp. The K Camp record is kind of R and B. But that's that's, you know, And that's why I say I'm trying to make this stretch because these last couple of records that I do, you know, Little John Usher, you know, the usual suspect, they gotta be there, so I gotta go get it. So hopefully I'll get it done in the next.

01:12:54
Speaker 2: Couple of days.

01:12:55
Speaker 6: Can we get Lovers and Friends Part two?

01:12:58
Speaker 4: Nah, not Lovers some Friends Part two, but something some Part one on some part on some part one the show.

01:13:06
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01:13:14
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01:13:22
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