PlayStation Veteran Shuhei Yoshida to Retire In January

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<v Speaker 1>Mornings Live with Me Jeff Grubb. Today we get some
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<v Speaker 1>company Katakawa is coming together, and one of the faces
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<v Speaker 3>Video games and sleep, Jeff, video games. I haven't had
<v Speaker 3>much time for either recently, so I'm gonna I'm gonna
<v Speaker 3>be laying in bed and doing one of those two
<v Speaker 3>things like all weekend when I'm not eating good food.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm looking forward to just taking some time off.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll be making a bunch of food tomorrow. Watch
<v Speaker 1>the lions play some play some games at some point.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe have you know sister in law over something something
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<v Speaker 1>more details about Sony's potential acquisition of Katakawa. This is
<v Speaker 1>from Takashi Matazuki at Bloomberg. Katakawa Korp, a publisher of
<v Speaker 1>everything from anime to meng tamoga to adult magazines, last
<v Speaker 1>week declarity it had received a formal expression of interest
<v Speaker 1>from Sony. It was the latest development in a long
<v Speaker 1>running back and forth between the two entertainment giants. They've
<v Speaker 1>been testing the waters for a potential combination for years,
<v Speaker 1>but never quite resolved differences over the degree of commitment.
<v Speaker 1>Tokyo based kata Kawa wants it's city neighbor to buy
<v Speaker 1>it entirely or not at all, while Sony has long
<v Speaker 1>sought to surgically extract assets related to anime and video games.
<v Speaker 1>The fact that two are now, the fact that the
<v Speaker 1>two are now at a formal stage of negotiations, is
<v Speaker 1>very encouraging for a deal to get done. Both sides
<v Speaker 1>might actually be ready to get serious and thresh.
<v Speaker 2>Out a deal.
<v Speaker 1>There's more here, we'll get into more of it, but basically,
<v Speaker 1>what this is saying is Sony and has made Maybe
<v Speaker 1>you had long term interest in kata Kawa for all
<v Speaker 1>the reasons that we talked about on the BombCast, where
<v Speaker 1>it's like they own so many pieces of content, so
<v Speaker 1>many IP rights. I think the number is north of
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand in terms of the various copyrights that
<v Speaker 1>they have in anime friendly, fantasy and sci fi novels
<v Speaker 1>and comics. As it says here, that's.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of that would be like one off
<v Speaker 3>manga and stuff, sure.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, but a big treasure trove of IP and Sony
<v Speaker 1>wants that. They definitely want that, and also they definitely
<v Speaker 1>want from Soft they would love to have that.
<v Speaker 2>So they want these things.
<v Speaker 1>But apparently kata Kawa, a company you know again I'm
<v Speaker 1>not super familiar with, owns a bunch of other stuff
<v Speaker 1>that is less enticing, And Sony's been like, we'll take
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, but we don't want that, and kata Kawa
<v Speaker 1>is like, you take it all or you don't take
<v Speaker 1>anything at all. It's going to go that way. So
<v Speaker 1>are you aware of some of the other businesses that
<v Speaker 1>Kata Kawa is in, because it's like it's always weird
<v Speaker 1>with Japanese companies like Sony is like a huge seller
<v Speaker 1>of insurance in Japan. It's like, like the kind of
<v Speaker 1>an example I can think.
<v Speaker 3>Of, Uh, Konami, I think you might be thinking of there.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Sony.
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Sony has an insurance business. Well,
<v Speaker 1>Konami also has like the health clubs and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I was thinking, Okay, gotcha, gotcha with
<v Speaker 3>kata Kawa. I'm not familiar with much outside of their
<v Speaker 3>anime business, but like we talked about on the BombCast,
<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of anime business, Jeff. And that's a
<v Speaker 3>lot of Sony as a company, not necessarily PlayStation, but
<v Speaker 3>Sony's m O right now. So it make a lot
<v Speaker 3>of sense to me if that's what they, as the
<v Speaker 3>parent company, were going after with all of this. And
<v Speaker 3>I do I do really think that from self being
<v Speaker 3>the big one boss of stuff like a choir and
<v Speaker 3>whoever else may be under them that kata Kawa either
<v Speaker 3>owns or has majority stake, however may shake out, I
<v Speaker 3>do think those are just nice to have in all
<v Speaker 3>of this. I the more we're seeing about the more
<v Speaker 3>it does seem to be that they are kind of
<v Speaker 3>just saying, hey, we want the anime IP we want
<v Speaker 3>the rights to all this, all these shows, all these books,
<v Speaker 3>everything like that. It's just another source of revenue. Uh,
<v Speaker 3>this is you know, within our interests right now as
<v Speaker 3>a greater company. So I think it's kind of just
<v Speaker 3>lining up like that. I've heard, I've heard random stuff
<v Speaker 3>here and there about apparently, you know, Kata Kaw was
<v Speaker 3>like at risk of being like a hostile takeover or
<v Speaker 3>something like that from some other companies, and so that's
<v Speaker 3>what that's what's going on here is maybe they want, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>someone down the road or however it may be, to
<v Speaker 3>be their new pairing company instead.
<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, I mean just speaking to the value
<v Speaker 1>of anime at kata Kawa. This is again from the
<v Speaker 1>story Kata Kawa is over the years, attracted the attention
<v Speaker 1>of Microsoft, Tencent and South Korea's CACAU Corp. Anime is
<v Speaker 1>one of the fastest growing segments of the entertainment industry,
<v Speaker 1>and an entire generation that's grown up with the biggest
<v Speaker 1>franchises is rising and purchasing power and ramping up spending.
<v Speaker 1>Japan's anime industry doubled in a decade to nineteen point
<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars by twenty twenty two. According to the
<v Speaker 1>Association of Japanese Animation. So like, yeah, it was already
<v Speaker 1>a growing business. It's it's been growing very fast. And
<v Speaker 1>the expectation here is, you know, look around, kids are
<v Speaker 1>crazy about anime, and they're all getting older and getting
<v Speaker 1>more money, and they're going to have more money in
<v Speaker 1>the future, and they're gonna want to spend it on
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. So the owner of this stuff is going
<v Speaker 1>to make out like a bandit. And that's Sony wants
<v Speaker 1>to be in that position. And they've been doing that
<v Speaker 1>for a while. They've been you know, obviously acquiring more
<v Speaker 1>and more anime properties and anime services over the years.
<v Speaker 1>And then when it comes to okay, well how would
<v Speaker 1>they benefit from that? Well, yeah, they can then turn
<v Speaker 1>those things into video games and into movies, and they
<v Speaker 1>can license the music, and they have all this stuff
<v Speaker 1>that they could take advantage of in a way that
<v Speaker 1>maybe kata Kawa could not exactly.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now, and by the way, if this was the BombCast,
<v Speaker 3>today's episode would be titled the Value of Anime. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>just you know.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, of course, as far as like kata Kawa
<v Speaker 1>being a target for a hostile takeover, you're right about that.
<v Speaker 1>As well, and the story kind of goes into that
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, basically saying that there's been several problems
<v Speaker 1>one after the other. The eighty one year old founder,
<v Speaker 1>mister kata Kawa uh was he left the company because
<v Speaker 1>he was caught up in a bribery scandal involving the
<v Speaker 1>Japanese Olympic Games that happened uh And then over the summer,
<v Speaker 1>apparently there was a huge data breach and it the
<v Speaker 1>company was hacked and lost a lot of people's information
<v Speaker 1>things like that, and so it's stock price, which this
<v Speaker 1>is a publicly traded company, which is apparently pretty rare
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to one of these massive anime conglomerates
<v Speaker 1>in Japan. The other ones, again according to the story,
<v Speaker 1>are privately owned and whenever those owners get approached about acquisition,
<v Speaker 1>they dismiss it out of hand. They don't even ask
<v Speaker 1>about it, which apparently was what kata Kaba was doing
<v Speaker 1>before the owner left or the CEO left. But now
<v Speaker 1>you know it is a publicly traded company, that makes
<v Speaker 1>it a target. And the stock price lowered because of
<v Speaker 1>all of these problems one after the other, and so
<v Speaker 1>Sony's in a position where it's like maybe all those
<v Speaker 1>problems we had we had with acquiring this massive kata
<v Speaker 1>Kawa and all of the stuff that we don't want
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit less painful now because the price
<v Speaker 1>will be a little bit better now. Of course, this
<v Speaker 1>news broke and the stock price is shot kind of
<v Speaker 1>right back up because everyone's like, oh, Sony might acquire it,
<v Speaker 1>let's get in on that. So that that has already
<v Speaker 1>maybe faded a little bit, but you know, again the
<v Speaker 1>story kind of gets into this, it begins to make
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense for Sony. Nothing like, if they're
<v Speaker 1>looking to grow, there's not a lot of other acquisition
<v Speaker 1>targets out there that make more sense than this, and
<v Speaker 1>it seems likely that Sony will try to make it
<v Speaker 1>make sense.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it just seems attracted to them in general,
<v Speaker 3>for everything that they could acquire in getting this, all
<v Speaker 3>the different branches of kata Kama. So I think I
<v Speaker 3>do think the acquisition makes a lot of sense for Sony.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, boy, as far as like the video game side
<v Speaker 1>of things, you know, the one investor joke that Miyazaki
<v Speaker 1>alone could be worth at least a third of Katakawa's
<v Speaker 1>market value, as he is capable of producing massive hits
<v Speaker 1>one after another.
<v Speaker 3>I know, yeah, it's I mean, look at what happened
<v Speaker 3>with Konami after a Kochama left, Like that company was
<v Speaker 3>already not doing great with their public image and then
<v Speaker 3>when you know, the guy who made their most popular
<v Speaker 3>series left, they really and truly became a joke in
<v Speaker 3>part because he wasn't making you know, wasn't directing games anymore.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, sometimes people do have that there. It's it's
<v Speaker 3>like with Miamoto and Nintendo's well, what does the media
<v Speaker 3>was Nintendo without Memo look like? And we know that
<v Speaker 3>they're training up the next generation. A lot of or
<v Speaker 3>at least a lot of these creators are trying to
<v Speaker 3>start doing that, but it's you know, just not gonna
<v Speaker 3>be the same without their influence, without the guiding hand there.
<v Speaker 3>So I see what they're saying there, even if there
<v Speaker 3>are maybe a little tongue in cheek with that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh, you know, Sony already has a pretty
<v Speaker 1>big investment in from Soft like they are.
<v Speaker 2>You know, while kata Kawa.
<v Speaker 1>Owns sixty six percent of Sony has a significant share
<v Speaker 1>as well, not you know, obviously not more than a majority.
<v Speaker 1>But if this deal to go through, they would own
<v Speaker 1>even more from Soft. Obviously, the question a lot of
<v Speaker 1>people have is what happens then if this does go through.
<v Speaker 1>This is the big developer that a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>care about. Do the games go exclusive?
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't think so. Just it doesn't. It
<v Speaker 3>doesn't feel like the right fit for this, okay, because
<v Speaker 3>we are in an era of people finally realizing that
<v Speaker 3>the first part exclusive doesn't always make the most sense.
<v Speaker 3>It's especially in a situation like this where it is
<v Speaker 3>a company you were bringing in and they are so
<v Speaker 3>used to making games multi platform, it doesn't necessarily make
<v Speaker 3>sense to artificially limit them if they already have the
<v Speaker 3>bandwidth to potentially put it out on other systems, because
<v Speaker 3>you're just taking a revenue stream away from yourself at
<v Speaker 3>that point. And in a world where these companies want
<v Speaker 3>all of the money, why would you not take all
<v Speaker 3>of the money. That's what I was saying with a
<v Speaker 3>call of duty, And everyone's like, no, no, no, you spend
<v Speaker 3>all this money. You know, this jackass podcast I listened
<v Speaker 3>to all the time kept saying oh no, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 3>you don't spend all this money and not make your
<v Speaker 3>stuff exclusive. But guess what they would rather have all
<v Speaker 3>of the money.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.
<v Speaker 3>We're just at that point where they are slowly just
<v Speaker 3>kind of ignoring the frankly toxic fanboy fan base and
<v Speaker 3>instead going for a thing that makes sense financially.
<v Speaker 1>And it clearly made sense for Call Duty after Black
<v Speaker 1>Ops six has been such a massive success. It's like
<v Speaker 1>everyone mess of both worlds.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they got the game pass audience and they got
<v Speaker 3>the people on PlayStation paying full price and it's a
<v Speaker 3>good game, so everyone's actually happy. So makes sense. And
<v Speaker 3>with this Tam sat on the BombCast yesterday, they'll run
<v Speaker 3>the numbers. If it makes sense, like if it would
<v Speaker 3>draw more people of PlayStation, they'll make it exclusive. And
<v Speaker 3>if they're like no, we're just gonna make so much
<v Speaker 3>more money just making sure it's everywhere if you only
<v Speaker 3>have nothing else, just to be able to say that
<v Speaker 3>everywhere and have it potentially on switching stuff too in
<v Speaker 3>addition Xbox, then they'll leave it multi platform because that's
<v Speaker 3>what makes sense. Now that being said, they could do anything.
<v Speaker 3>PlayStation's a little more willing to be stubborn with exclusivity
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that, because, like you said, that's kind
<v Speaker 3>of what the audience expects out of them, So I
<v Speaker 3>could see it going either way. I just think that
<v Speaker 3>we're slowly getting a little bit past a world where
<v Speaker 3>even if not our things come to Xbox, you do
<v Speaker 3>have stuff like Lego Horizon on Switch because that's that
<v Speaker 3>made sense for that game with that audience, right Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And it's it doesn't feel like in line with this deal,
<v Speaker 1>right if this deal the way that it's being described,
<v Speaker 1>the way that like, uh, the motivations behind it for
<v Speaker 1>Sony of like, let's gather all of this IP and
<v Speaker 1>all of this these important copyrights and then let's take
<v Speaker 1>them and expand it in every direction we can so
<v Speaker 1>we can capitalize on it. And then it's like except
<v Speaker 1>for from Soft that just goes on PlayStation, it's it
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really line up with their overall stated goal.
<v Speaker 3>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And it also just doesn't feel like it's in line
<v Speaker 1>with the way the winds are blowing even at Sony.
<v Speaker 3>So well, and think about yeah, think about the other companies,
<v Speaker 3>like what would they have a Choir's game be exclusive
<v Speaker 3>to PlayStation, like uh, you know Octopath Traveler three PS
<v Speaker 3>five exclusive? That just seems like such a weird fit.
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make any as well obviously. Yeah, yeah, it
<v Speaker 3>doesn't make sense.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, I mean, while the audience might expect it,
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't seem to factor in as much as it
<v Speaker 1>maybe once did. I think they've they've spent the last
<v Speaker 1>several decades catering to that audience, waiting for that audience
<v Speaker 1>to like, okay, where it's the next generation of people
<v Speaker 1>that are just like you, and it just hasn't like manifested.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, Okay, we got to go find them elsewhere,
<v Speaker 1>and that means putting the games elsewhere.
<v Speaker 3>Or by the way, possible or the video verse. Have
<v Speaker 3>the headlines hot and rife.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, let's do that, right there, we go, headlines.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move along. Then. PlayStation veterans shoe Ya
<v Speaker 1>Yoshida to retire in January. This is from Christopher Dring
<v Speaker 1>at GI dot Biz. Shue Ya Yoshida will retire from
<v Speaker 1>Sony Interactive Entertainment on January fifteenth of next year. Yo
<v Speaker 1>should have has held numerous leadership roles at PlayStations by
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation since he joined the team in nineteen ninety three.
<v Speaker 1>His initial role involved working with publishers and developers in
<v Speaker 1>Japan to help them create titles for the first PlayStation console.
<v Speaker 1>He's probably best known for his time as President of
<v Speaker 1>Worldwide Studios, leading PlayStation's first party development over a decade
<v Speaker 1>between two thousand and eight to twenty nineteen. Since twenty nineteen,
<v Speaker 1>he has led PlayStation's relationship with indie studios as the
<v Speaker 1>head of PlayStation Indies.
<v Speaker 2>Speaking to the.
<v Speaker 1>Official PlayStation Podcast, Yoshida recounted his early years as part
<v Speaker 1>of ken Kudaragi's initial PlayStation team, where he talked about
<v Speaker 1>how he joined that team in nineteen ninety three, which
<v Speaker 1>is more than thirty years ago. He has been there
<v Speaker 1>since the beginning, and that is essentially what he said
<v Speaker 1>when he was asked about like, Hey, what's going on here?
<v Speaker 1>It's like thirty years, PlayStation's in a great place.
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm old, dude, dam abridge.
<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's thirty years, PlayStation's in a great place.
<v Speaker 1>I feel good about moving on, and so it now
<v Speaker 1>feels like the right time to do.
<v Speaker 3>So.
<v Speaker 1>Now he does say moving on, he doesn't say retiring
<v Speaker 1>from the video game business. In fact, he explicitly said
<v Speaker 1>he wants to stay in video games, So yes that
<v Speaker 1>what does that look like? I don't know, he's probably
<v Speaker 1>not going to go work at Xbox, right.
<v Speaker 3>But I kind of doubt that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he probably could do whatever, Like he could
<v Speaker 1>start up his own company, just like consulting with indie
<v Speaker 1>studios that want to publish their games across a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of stuff like that's something he could easily do. So
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'd be interested to see what he
<v Speaker 1>does next. Either way, he's going to have a following
<v Speaker 1>because people just associate him so strongly and positively with PlayStation, right.
<v Speaker 3>I associate him as eating dinner at Greg Miller's kitchen.
<v Speaker 3>That's at associate you with. By the way, when I
<v Speaker 3>told Mike about this news last night, you know, I
<v Speaker 3>said she was leaving PlayStation. He's like, Dann, she was
<v Speaker 3>leaving PlayStation.
<v Speaker 2>I did that.
<v Speaker 3>Well. Oh but yeah, I do think a lot of
<v Speaker 3>the developers are starting to spin off in their own
<v Speaker 3>way because some see success, like you'll, speaking of Kojuma.
<v Speaker 3>You look at him, you know, doing a great job
<v Speaker 3>over there with that studio, working relatively independently and everything,
<v Speaker 3>and we also see people like who is it? It's
<v Speaker 3>you know, who left Capcom and now has his own
<v Speaker 3>thing going on, And these developers they want to go.
<v Speaker 3>Either's somewhere smaller where they can just have like an
<v Speaker 3>advisory role and sort of just you know, we kind
<v Speaker 3>of mentioned earlier, be the guiding hand a bit, or
<v Speaker 3>they want to do something that they have full control over.
<v Speaker 3>And so I could definitely see Shoe doing either of
<v Speaker 3>those things. I think they both make sense for him,
<v Speaker 3>and he seems to have been a good influence on Sody,
<v Speaker 3>So if nothing else, he's a good prospect if he
<v Speaker 3>does want to go to another existing company, right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, and you you could easily see where
<v Speaker 1>he could fit in into like the way things are
<v Speaker 1>going right now, where it's like a company like Tencent
<v Speaker 1>is saying, hey, we love to bring on these Japanese
<v Speaker 1>developers and have them start up their own studios underneath us,
<v Speaker 1>but maybe we could use someone that is has more
<v Speaker 1>contacts and more of a relationship with a lot of
<v Speaker 1>these people, and kind of who better to do that
<v Speaker 1>than shoe Ye Yoshida, Like it seems like he would
<v Speaker 1>be a perfect fit for that.
<v Speaker 3>You know something I don't, is it not? Shoe Hey?
<v Speaker 1>That's an age there, Shoe ha sh I just that's
<v Speaker 1>that's my garbled mouth I just eat a lot.
<v Speaker 3>Of I genuinely wondering if you knew something that I wonder.
<v Speaker 1>Shoe that's just come shoe shoe. Hey.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's just like hey, shoe shoe hay.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's shoe a It's kind of like the
<v Speaker 1>age just gets silent in my mouth.
<v Speaker 2>That's just how I speak.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wasn't trying to pick on you. It's morning.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I can feel myself doing it too. Him
<v Speaker 1>like that, That's just that's how I thought. That's just how
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be.
<v Speaker 3>I will I do think that. Yeah, chest count point
<v Speaker 3>out what you were megan at here of h He
<v Speaker 3>he likes working with indies. He always talks about that
<v Speaker 3>and start uplifting these smaller teams. The indie scene in
<v Speaker 3>Japan in particular is doing really well right now, so
<v Speaker 3>maybe he wants to do something with that and like
<v Speaker 3>get more of these smaller studios sort of kickstarted and
<v Speaker 3>gained their first projects or you know, first few projects
<v Speaker 3>out the door or something. I could see that happening too.
<v Speaker 3>I think he's got a lot of different passing and
<v Speaker 3>go and I think he's going to do well at
<v Speaker 3>whatever that may be.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I agreed. I think we'll find a place in
<v Speaker 1>the industry, probably already has. And that was quite an
<v Speaker 1>amazing run at Sony, so good for him.
<v Speaker 3>Definitely.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break, whill we
<v Speaker 1>come back. One more Sony story about them boost the
<v Speaker 1>numbers of the PS two right in time to beat
<v Speaker 1>out the switch and you maybe once to like Animal
<v Speaker 1>Crossing game. We'll talk about all of that right after this.
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're back, Let's get right back into it.
<v Speaker 1>Sony website chronicles thirty years of PlayStation and says the
<v Speaker 1>PS two has sold one hundred and sixty million units.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Tom Ivan at VGC. Sony has updated
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation's website with a timeline chronicling thirty years of the
<v Speaker 1>iconic gaming brand, featuring a host of images, videos, and stats.
<v Speaker 1>The update has launched a head of PlayStation's thirtieth anniversary
<v Speaker 1>on December third, twenty twenty four. Notably, it states that
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty million PS two consoles have been
<v Speaker 1>sold worldwide since it's launched in two thousand. This is
<v Speaker 1>the same sales figure mentioned in March by a former
<v Speaker 1>Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO Jim Ryan during an official PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>podcast released to a coincide with his retirement. However, it
<v Speaker 1>appears to be the first time the figure has been
<v Speaker 1>published on an official PlayStation website, So up until now
<v Speaker 1>it's been one hundred and fifty five million. That was
<v Speaker 1>the last number from the last public recording, but it
<v Speaker 1>was before they stopped selling PS twos, and a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people who are paying attention to this stuff at
<v Speaker 1>the time are like, no, they kept selling PS twos
<v Speaker 1>after this. There were some lots in the supply chain
<v Speaker 1>for many many months, and because they moved on to
<v Speaker 1>PS three, they weren't talking about it. But it's probably
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty million, and here we have. But
<v Speaker 1>it turns out, yes, it was indeed one hundred and
<v Speaker 1>sixty million, and that kind of does put it actually
<v Speaker 1>pretty significantly far ahead of like where the switch is
<v Speaker 1>at right now, and the switch is still behind the
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation two and the DS, I think.
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I'm trying ma exactly how it breaks down.
<v Speaker 3>Sixty million, it's too DS, then we and they are
<v Speaker 3>now ahead of we.
<v Speaker 2>They're ahead of we, yes, yes, And so I think
<v Speaker 2>the the DS was like.
<v Speaker 1>One hundred and fifty two million, one hundred and fifty
<v Speaker 1>ish million, So it was always.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was just high the PS two yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Right, d yeah, it's like one hundred fift millions. It's
<v Speaker 1>Michael ar ar lyric yes. And then the switch is
<v Speaker 1>at like one hundred and forty five million or something
<v Speaker 1>like that.
<v Speaker 3>So oh really, I yeah, I haven't really been keeping
<v Speaker 3>the track of the number. It was like, well like
<v Speaker 3>one twenty five last I remember.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like the last number was like one forty
<v Speaker 1>six I think, or something like that. Maybe maybe one
<v Speaker 1>forty two in the one forties. I'm pretty sure it's
<v Speaker 1>that last number.
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, okay, yeah, it's gonna be close.
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be close, especially because the things are slowing
<v Speaker 1>down and when the Switch two comes out, Uh, it's
<v Speaker 1>very likely that the Switch one sales actually will kind
<v Speaker 1>of fall off a cliff because a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>audience will just move on very quickly. It okay, it's
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty six million.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 3>They could they could fire sale the the lights like
<v Speaker 3>they did with the two DS, right, three DS era.
<v Speaker 1>So and that just and that, you know, the Pokemon
<v Speaker 1>games probably will be crossed Gin for a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>That is what that is what they traditionally do.
<v Speaker 3>So Pokemon is an interesting one. Za is slated for
<v Speaker 3>the Switch as we know it right now to Switch one,
<v Speaker 3>and game Freak does not put the next generation on
<v Speaker 3>new hardware. We are yeah, we're assuming that the next
<v Speaker 3>generation Pokemon has come out in twenty twenty six. Maybe
<v Speaker 3>that'll be like a year after the Switch two is
<v Speaker 3>out at that point, so that would make a little
<v Speaker 3>more sense.
<v Speaker 1>So if you have a cheap if you have a
<v Speaker 1>cheap switch that you could sell in the holidays with
<v Speaker 1>a new Pokemon game, you're getting to one hundred and
<v Speaker 1>fifty million, no, no problem, kind of no swe.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's that would be incentive for them to have
<v Speaker 3>it be cross gen in some way, especially if that
<v Speaker 3>could appease people who really were not happy with Scarlynvaz performs.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's how you sell more switches is with
<v Speaker 3>more Pokemon. That has been the time hunter tradition for Nintendo, right.
<v Speaker 1>So it could still happen. This thing probably kind of
<v Speaker 1>stalls out at one hundred and fifty five million probably
<v Speaker 1>around there, that's right. Yeah, So when you know either way,
<v Speaker 1>like just know of this matters this is all just
<v Speaker 1>kind of the kinds of things we talk about on
<v Speaker 1>video game podcasts and video game forums. But it was
<v Speaker 1>it was fun to be like, hey, is this actually
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. We never thought that would and here we are.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's gonna be a little bit harder. The
<v Speaker 1>PS two really just was a an anomaly of the
<v Speaker 1>right right place, right time, right device with you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a DVD.
<v Speaker 3>Player, d player first, right.
<v Speaker 1>It was a time when there were not a lot
<v Speaker 1>of alternatives to get cheap video games on smartphones and
<v Speaker 1>tablets and even on PC. Like you you're gonna play
<v Speaker 1>flash games if you're buy a whole PC for that, No,
<v Speaker 1>just go get a PS two for ninety nine dollars
<v Speaker 1>with the new FIFA, and you have this huge back
<v Speaker 1>library of games that people are selling the dirt cheap.
<v Speaker 1>It was like such a different push than what you
<v Speaker 1>have now.
<v Speaker 3>PS one games which were still being sold at discount prices,
<v Speaker 3>at game prices in general or more variable. So people
<v Speaker 3>were just picking up like fifteen twenty dollars games. Well
<v Speaker 3>like yeah, Ketamari Domasy was I think that was twenty
<v Speaker 3>bucks on release, wasn't it? Or was it thirty something
<v Speaker 3>like that. It wasn't like a notably discounted game, but
<v Speaker 3>you had, Yeah, you had stuff like that in that era.
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of DVD, did you see John Linneman's post about
<v Speaker 3>the rewriting history with this website at all?
<v Speaker 1>No? I didn't. What would they did? I actually like
<v Speaker 1>barely looked at this website.
<v Speaker 3>I went there to they had Oh my god, they
<v Speaker 3>had a minor blunder where they said, yeah, the PS
<v Speaker 3>two was one of the first things that PLAYEDS and
<v Speaker 3>like everyone's homes and they show a PSC with the
<v Speaker 3>blue disc in and the blue disc is a CD, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>which is very funny. And then if you scroll down
<v Speaker 3>to like some of the best PS two games and
<v Speaker 3>they have ECO but it's the original Japanese art org
<v Speaker 3>but with like the ESRB logo, it's like, well version
<v Speaker 3>of ECO never existed.
<v Speaker 1>Guys, how weird that they would even have that, Like
<v Speaker 1>why would you just there a picture of the disc
<v Speaker 1>on there?
<v Speaker 3>Because that probably also had that terrible CGI render on
<v Speaker 3>of the dude that we got over here. So it's
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a little funny how they stretched a couple
<v Speaker 3>things on that website.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is also part of their thirtieth anniversary thing though,
<v Speaker 1>so there's been rumors that they would have some things
<v Speaker 1>to announce. I'm trying to remember exactly what was it,
<v Speaker 1>like new controllers or something like that. Beyond like obviously
<v Speaker 1>the thirtieth anniversary PlayStation controllers. There was some roomers that
<v Speaker 1>there's some things still coming, which is one of the
<v Speaker 1>reasons people believe that we're going to get a State
<v Speaker 1>of play, which again I have not.
<v Speaker 3>Oh I heard that like some of the white peripherals
<v Speaker 3>are going to come in black now to match.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's small stuff like that I've heard. Have you
<v Speaker 3>Have you got any of the thirtieth anniversary stuff? I
<v Speaker 3>know obviously none of us got the pro here.
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to pro and when I couldn't get that,
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't I don't want any of this.
<v Speaker 1>And now it comes like the controller looks really nice.
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't need another controller.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm at the point where, since you know, I'm
<v Speaker 3>kind of looking buying a PSIS as that I would
<v Speaker 3>have one, I'm almost thinking, like they restock the slim
<v Speaker 3>maybe even I'll just pick up that. Yeah, because the
<v Speaker 3>Slim is nice. I like it looking? Yes, yeah, so
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe I'll grab that if it goes back in
<v Speaker 3>stock somewhere.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move along here. You be Soft apparently
<v Speaker 1>working on an Animal Crossing inspired game. Sure, this is
<v Speaker 1>from my Nintendo news. Insider Gaming is reporting that you
<v Speaker 1>besoft has an Animal Crossing inspired game in the works
<v Speaker 1>under the internal code name of Alterra. The social sim
<v Speaker 1>game within interactable NPCs named Matterlings has apparently been in
<v Speaker 1>the work now it works now for for approximately eighteen months.
<v Speaker 1>The team involved with the game is Ubisoft Montreal, as
<v Speaker 1>is headed by Patrick Redding, who was the creative director
<v Speaker 1>of Gotham Knights at Warner Brothers Games. Al Terra's described
<v Speaker 1>to me as an Animal Crossing inspired social sem that
<v Speaker 1>will see players inhabit a home island that will consist
<v Speaker 1>of interactable MPCs named Matterlings. Sources said that players will
<v Speaker 1>be able to leave their home island and go to
<v Speaker 1>other worlds, which consist of different biomes, different types of Matterlings, enemies, materials,
<v Speaker 1>and more, where they'll also be able to interact with
<v Speaker 1>other players. It was said that the game is somewhat
<v Speaker 1>similar to Minecraft's building mechanics allowing players to build what
<v Speaker 1>they want with gathered materials. For example, if a player
<v Speaker 1>would like to create something out of snow and ice,
<v Speaker 1>they'd have to travel by means unknown to an icing
<v Speaker 1>world inhabited by snow ice matterlings. Okay, yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 1>Ubisof's got a long history of Hey, that's working. We're
<v Speaker 1>going to have our own version of that. We're gonna
<v Speaker 1>call it Imagine Babies or whatever. And that's our take
<v Speaker 1>on kind of like the sim genre. Like they've done
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the stuff in the past. It's been
<v Speaker 1>less frequent recently for sure, but I'm not surprised that
<v Speaker 1>they're looking over it, like we need to try something different,
<v Speaker 1>find a different audience. We used to have a lot
<v Speaker 1>of games for a broader audience and not just for
<v Speaker 1>core male gamers between eighteen and thirty four.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we could have something different again.
<v Speaker 1>And this sounds like an attempt to like try to
<v Speaker 1>reach out to kids and women and you know, still
<v Speaker 1>hit that male gaming audience that would basically like this, yes,
<v Speaker 1>and yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you'd be soft.
<v Speaker 1>Always feels like they missed the mark with me for
<v Speaker 1>this stuff where they it's like, oh, the art just
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look right, and it just doesn't look enticing the
<v Speaker 1>way Animal Crossing does.
<v Speaker 2>I know, do you have a lot of faith in
<v Speaker 2>something like this from you be Soft?
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a lot of faith in you Besoft
<v Speaker 3>right now? What is going on at that company, Jeff?
<v Speaker 3>They seem to be kind of lost right now, not
<v Speaker 3>really knowing what they want to do. And you have, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>stuff like the new Assassin's Creed looks good and everything,
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, outside of that, I don't know, they seem
<v Speaker 3>to not really know what they want to be doing.
<v Speaker 3>They do weird stuff like all their NFT web three whatever,
<v Speaker 3>right they're trying to pedal now, like I don't know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>when if you say how much faith do I have
<v Speaker 3>in this project or whatever? Little I guess I don't know, yep.
<v Speaker 2>I mean speaking of ubisopp being launch lost.
<v Speaker 1>They've also apparently been lobbying valved A hide concurrent player
<v Speaker 1>numbers on Steam.
<v Speaker 2>They want to stop doing that, and.
<v Speaker 1>It's very specifically because that stuff gets reported on and
<v Speaker 1>investors see them, and that lowers the stock value for
<v Speaker 1>you be Soft. So instead of making games that more
<v Speaker 1>people play, they want to hide the information so they
<v Speaker 1>can skate by on less work and that's just I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I don't want that stuff to go away. I get
<v Speaker 1>why these companies don't like it, but come on, you
<v Speaker 1>need to just get over it and get back to
<v Speaker 1>work and make a real video game.
<v Speaker 2>Come on.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, God, that last bit there, Holy moly, Like, hey,
<v Speaker 3>please don't tell on us that nobody cares about our
<v Speaker 3>games right now? Wow?
<v Speaker 1>Yep, And again that's that's reported. We don't know if
<v Speaker 1>this is just a rumor that's out there, but exactly
<v Speaker 1>that's what's happened.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's just wild. Holy moly, Yeah, what is going
<v Speaker 3>on over there? Indeed, I don't know. It's they are
<v Speaker 3>such a big company with so many employees, as we know,
<v Speaker 3>because every time they have layoffs, it's like, oh, you know,
<v Speaker 3>whatever percentage is so many thousands of people or whatever, hundreds,
<v Speaker 3>whatever the case may be. That yeah, maybe they're just
<v Speaker 3>imploding a little bit. I don't wish like the worst
<v Speaker 3>of things for Ubisoft, because they can still come out
<v Speaker 3>with good games, and even if they don't always hit,
<v Speaker 3>it's it seems like they're they're putting the effort in.
<v Speaker 3>It's just that outside of that that core you know,
<v Speaker 3>hardcore demographic that we kind of mentioned and we kind
<v Speaker 3>of have been talking about for a little bit here
<v Speaker 3>on Giant Bomb. You do need to branch out a
<v Speaker 3>little bit more, but you can't. You can't just copy
<v Speaker 3>what our people are doing, because at best you get
<v Speaker 3>a flash in the pan situation like with Powell World,
<v Speaker 3>where you try to copy like they were copying survival
<v Speaker 3>games there, and you know, obviously put a little bit
<v Speaker 3>of Pokemon spin on it, but nobody's talking about that
<v Speaker 3>game anymore. I'm sure it's still doing all right for
<v Speaker 3>itself simply because of how big it grew. If you
<v Speaker 3>retain a small portion of that audience, it's all right.
<v Speaker 3>But that is not what Ubisoft needs to be chasing
<v Speaker 3>right now. And I don't have the answer of what
<v Speaker 3>they do need to be doing, but it just this
<v Speaker 3>doesn't feel like it's it, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you've seen to be at it's that's
<v Speaker 1>best when I had both a lot of different games
<v Speaker 1>that it could make for something like the DS, and
<v Speaker 1>then at the same time it was beginning to be
<v Speaker 1>at the forefront of pushing a big open world games
<v Speaker 1>and it was the best at that it was, or
<v Speaker 1>at least it was the best at like iterating on
<v Speaker 1>that more quickly than anyone else, and so it felt
<v Speaker 1>like it was at the forefront of something and that
<v Speaker 1>you know, made it appealing in a way that a
<v Speaker 1>lot of other companies weren't. And that stuff just became
<v Speaker 1>so routine because it felt like they had to build
<v Speaker 1>a formula to follow otherwise, you know, making a sequel
<v Speaker 1>ever year wouldn't make sense. And now here they are
<v Speaker 1>because they've not been able to sort of break out
<v Speaker 1>of that thinking and they are no longer at the
<v Speaker 1>forefront of any genre really. So yeah, I think they
<v Speaker 1>occasionally make some really good games. I think they more
<v Speaker 1>frequently make stuff that is very mediocre and easy to
<v Speaker 1>ignore and that kind of wa on sale. Yes, and
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff is easy to wait for it to
<v Speaker 1>go on sales, so it kind of doesn't matter at
<v Speaker 1>a certain points, like you make a great game, people
<v Speaker 1>are like, it's u be stuff, I'm just gonna wait still,
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it feels very very much like the subway
<v Speaker 1>of deo game companies, where it's like the thing a
<v Speaker 1>lot of five dollars.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but every once in a while, you know, they
<v Speaker 3>have a banging meatball sub exactly, supers or something. But yeah, sure,
<v Speaker 3>hopefully foot long cookie why not?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Uh all right, let's move along here there is we'll
<v Speaker 1>get the extra. Let me do this one first. Star
<v Speaker 1>wars Hunters is warping to Steam Early Access next year.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Jason Finellia Game Spot, a person I'm
<v Speaker 1>thankful for. After debuting on Nintendo Switch and mobile devices
<v Speaker 1>earlier this year, Star wars Hunters will soon be blasting
<v Speaker 1>its way to a new platform. Zinga has announced that
<v Speaker 1>the free to play Arena Shooter will be entering the
<v Speaker 1>PC arena as a free download on Steam Early Access
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five. PC port will feature graphical and
<v Speaker 1>performance upgrades including performed including improved textures, shadows, and rendering quality.
<v Speaker 1>The port will also include support for keyboard and mouse,
<v Speaker 1>along with wireless controller and key binding will be available
<v Speaker 1>on all controller schemes for custom layouts. I liked what
<v Speaker 1>I played in this game. Didn't play a ton of it.
<v Speaker 1>It was launched on mobile and Switch as a free
<v Speaker 1>to play a game. One of those, actually one of it.
<v Speaker 1>It's like kind of a weird one. We don't usually
<v Speaker 1>get something like that where it's like it's a mobile
<v Speaker 1>game put on the Switch at the same time that
<v Speaker 1>peaked my interest and I'm like, this is a pretty solid,
<v Speaker 1>you know, character hero shooter that is clearly it definitely
<v Speaker 1>feels like a mobile game in some ways, but in
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways that are important to me. It
<v Speaker 1>felt like just a console game that I could jump
<v Speaker 1>in and have a good time with. I think this
<v Speaker 1>thing is going to do pretty well on Steam. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. And the fact that they have like it's
<v Speaker 1>been out and they're not like sort of receding instead
<v Speaker 1>of they're like, hey, let's push forward and put this
<v Speaker 1>on another new platform, it says to me it's probably
<v Speaker 1>doing pretty all right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's good that didn't just get shut down after
<v Speaker 3>six months like some of these two, so that that's
<v Speaker 3>a sign that they're seeing at least some success. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Steam is kind of the place to be for free
<v Speaker 3>to play games, I would say where a specially obviously
<v Speaker 3>especially on PC platform. But I think people are so
<v Speaker 3>willing because so Steam was to just download something, try
<v Speaker 3>it out. If you know it doesn't click with you,
<v Speaker 3>was was the worst case scenario, you just delete it
<v Speaker 3>right away. It is a little mobile esque in that way,
<v Speaker 3>I suppose, So I think it's a good fit and
<v Speaker 3>it's good to see them expanding this, uh because let's
<v Speaker 3>see it's maybe I'm missing is it. Is it like
<v Speaker 3>full cross play between all the difference I think.
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean I think I think it was crossway
<v Speaker 1>between a switch and mobile. Uh yeah, I assume so, yes,
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's Zinga. I think they kind of understand that.
<v Speaker 1>So uh, and this was this was like a big
<v Speaker 1>initiative for them because zing It's not exactly been having
<v Speaker 1>a lot of right hits recently, so they're like, we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to do something that's a little bit more
<v Speaker 1>traditional and put it out on a console. So I
<v Speaker 1>think they like kind of did all the work to
<v Speaker 1>make sure it was a good experience from the jump. Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know it. It's honestly, it's like about as good.
<v Speaker 1>It's like a Call Duty mobile right where it's like
<v Speaker 1>this is a pretty good version of Call of Duty surprisingly,
<v Speaker 1>so uh, you know, and it's got some interesting Star
<v Speaker 1>Wars characters. It definitely doesn't take itself too seriously.
<v Speaker 3>There's is that thowk and horror.
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have thock and horror, but you know, it
<v Speaker 1>definitely feels like a game that could easily host a
<v Speaker 1>Thok and a horror So maybe maybe we'll get the movie.
<v Speaker 3>That's why it becomes a real video game exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Let's just keep waiting till that. Listen, Once it's on Steam,
<v Speaker 1>maybe we can get some mods to happen. All right,
<v Speaker 1>this is a rumor, Well let's get into it. All
<v Speaker 1>Future Mortal Kombat one expansions have apparently allegedly been canceled.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Jonas Mackie at Game Reactor. In the
<v Speaker 1>span of less than nine months, fighting fans had a
<v Speaker 1>really nice period from May twenty twenty three to January
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, when Street Fighter six, Mortal Kombat one,
<v Speaker 1>and Tech and eight were all released. All these were great,
<v Speaker 1>but it seemed that Mortal Kombat one was the one
<v Speaker 1>that had the hardest time keeping its audience. It introduced
<v Speaker 1>a major gameplay innovation called cameos, with sidekicks that could
<v Speaker 1>be called in during matches, which didn't entirely convince the
<v Speaker 1>fighting game community. Now, a well known Mortal Kombat leaker
<v Speaker 1>with a proven track record, Fate Unknown, reports that came
<v Speaker 1>that the Chaos Reigns expansion, which featured a new campaign
<v Speaker 1>classic characters and guest characters from the likes of ghost
<v Speaker 1>Face and T one thousand has been a commercial disappointment
<v Speaker 1>for another Realm Studios and Warner. Although it's not proof,
<v Speaker 1>it seems to be true. It seems to be true
<v Speaker 1>considering that it can already be bought for half price
<v Speaker 1>during the Black Friday sales and easily two months or
<v Speaker 1>after its release. As a consequence of fate, Unknown Now
<v Speaker 1>writes that a second planned story expansion to the game
<v Speaker 1>has been canceled along with the Combat Pack three. He does, however,
<v Speaker 1>write that any finished content may still be released, but
<v Speaker 1>he is not sure about that. See how does that
<v Speaker 1>sound to you as someone might be a little bit
<v Speaker 1>more tapped into this fighting game scene. I know that
<v Speaker 1>Mortal Kombat one was one that's like, oh, fans aren't
<v Speaker 1>super happy with this.
<v Speaker 3>One, right, And it's because because of a variety of things,
<v Speaker 3>people have not felt great about Mortal Kombat for you know,
<v Speaker 3>it feels like a long time, but really it's just
<v Speaker 3>the past two entries. People did not like eleven at all,
<v Speaker 3>and then one sort of kind of caught some strays
<v Speaker 3>because of that, even though it was doing somethings much better.
<v Speaker 1>One of those situations where like, the next game pays
<v Speaker 1>a little bit for the last game.
<v Speaker 3>Right exactly, And especially with how much people loved MK
<v Speaker 3>nine and MKX eleven, being such a disappointment in the
<v Speaker 3>eyes of a lot of people was kind of a
<v Speaker 3>tough pill to swallow, and so with one, Yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>think people are just like, well, another realm lost it.
<v Speaker 3>They don't have it anymore, even though when people actually
<v Speaker 3>picked up and played one, they were having a lot
<v Speaker 3>of fun with it. But I think there's been some
<v Speaker 3>issues with like balancing and gameplay decisions, and also some
<v Speaker 3>people just not liking the cameo system because it made
<v Speaker 3>it like vaguely tag based in a way. Well, as
<v Speaker 3>you know, you played it, you played something on the
<v Speaker 3>site here, and some people really liked it, some people
<v Speaker 3>really didn't. And having kind of a divisive game when
<v Speaker 3>you already weren't in great public opinion. Yeah, I think
<v Speaker 3>it didn't really do the game ay favors. Now that
<v Speaker 3>being said, let's see, when when did one come out?
<v Speaker 3>It was two falls ago. Now I think because it
<v Speaker 3>because they are rumor has it, maybe it came out
<v Speaker 3>a little earlier than it should have. Right, Yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>think yeah, twenty twenty three, so yeah, it was September
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three, So yeah, it's oh twenty twenty three.
<v Speaker 3>It was last year.
<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah it was because I feel like, not this
<v Speaker 1>last summer game fest, but the summer game of the
<v Speaker 1>fests before that.
<v Speaker 2>I remember playing it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, may it's because the lead upspin Bit, but yeah, uh,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I uh, it's a weird one, and
<v Speaker 3>I guess if the numbers are what people are looking at,
<v Speaker 3>maybe that lines up.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's hard to
<v Speaker 1>keep an audience's attention anyhow, and then it's even harder
<v Speaker 1>to get them to then spend more money that they
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of be in like a really good mood.
<v Speaker 2>With the game to want to do that.
<v Speaker 1>So maybe the best, you know, course of action in
<v Speaker 1>a situation like this is take those resources and get
<v Speaker 1>to work on the next one and hope to like
<v Speaker 1>reset the feelings towards the game. You know, Mortal Kombat
<v Speaker 1>one sold a ton of copies because it's Mortal Kombat.
<v Speaker 2>That's what it does. It's always so.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's a that's a big bang at the
<v Speaker 3>end of the day. Other realms games always sell, so
<v Speaker 3>it almost doesn't matter if they are choosing to move
<v Speaker 3>on to the next one, you know.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think eleven, like eleven like content and
<v Speaker 1>stuff like, you know, it's additional content did make a
<v Speaker 1>lot of money and maybe maybe ten maybe ten maybe
<v Speaker 1>or x maybe even more. But eleven also made a lot.
<v Speaker 1>So I think they're like looking at that and being like,
<v Speaker 1>we're not. We're making less from the DLC and the
<v Speaker 1>extra content on this than we did in the last game.
<v Speaker 1>So what's happening here? But it just feels like that
<v Speaker 1>audience has more options. They tuned out. The fighting game
<v Speaker 1>community always coalesces, and as much as Mortal Kombat is
<v Speaker 1>its own thing, I think people are feeling more comfortable,
<v Speaker 1>comfortable than ever from jumping from one fighting game to
<v Speaker 1>the other, especially when the community is all excited about,
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's happening in like Street Fighter or whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. That's what's great about games right now is we
<v Speaker 3>really do have rising tide where if the fighting game
<v Speaker 3>series that you like doesn't isn't really hitting with you
<v Speaker 3>right now, you can always go play something else, and
<v Speaker 3>you know, may you come back when that the next
<v Speaker 3>entry in your series comes out? Maybe like that one
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more. You know. It's like, I think
<v Speaker 3>Mortal Kombat has kind of what Guilty Gear is getting
<v Speaker 3>right now, because when I talk about people not really
<v Speaker 3>liking Mortal Kombat, I am talking about you know, the
<v Speaker 3>maybe even like the mid tier audience, the people who
<v Speaker 3>are enthusiastic about it, because the casuals really have like
<v Speaker 3>the past couple of games, because of a lot of
<v Speaker 3>the content in it, the story modes and whatnot, and
<v Speaker 3>then the pro audience has been mixed. I think no
<v Speaker 3>one's really loved the series since maybe even nine, Like
<v Speaker 3>a lot a lot of people liked X though, And
<v Speaker 3>with Guilty Gear, they're going through it where they changed
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things to pull in the casual audience,
<v Speaker 3>and that kind of backfire with the hardcore audience. But
<v Speaker 3>if you're selling a lot of copies, it kind of
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter, right. So it's interesting to see this situation
<v Speaker 3>right here where maybe if the DLC isn't doing particularly well,
<v Speaker 3>then that is why they would just move on to
<v Speaker 3>the next thing and figure something else out.
<v Speaker 2>YEA.
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, at a certain point it's like, yeah, you
<v Speaker 1>got to just cut your losses and uh and and
<v Speaker 1>like worry about sentiment first and worry about the next
<v Speaker 1>game maybe a little bit more quickly. And we see
<v Speaker 1>this with DLC and a lot of other genres too, right,
<v Speaker 1>whether that's the conversation happening with like, uh god, what
<v Speaker 1>was there's a game recently that came out that traditionally
<v Speaker 1>would have Dragon Age Dragon Age of the Veilguard. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>buy where always does DLC And they've done some of
<v Speaker 1>the best DLC that people remember super fondly, and the
<v Speaker 1>expectations is just they'll do that, but they're like, no,
<v Speaker 1>we're getting to work on mass effect. And then the
<v Speaker 1>like sort of subtext there was that's that kind of
<v Speaker 1>DLC just isn't worth it, the amount of effort we
<v Speaker 1>put in there, if the amount it sells, especially how
<v Speaker 1>much it would take these days to make something like that,
<v Speaker 1>it we're much better off just making the next game.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Mortal Kombat is going to be a
<v Speaker 1>different case because they are going to have they had
<v Speaker 1>like you know, gold packs or whatever you could buy.
<v Speaker 2>I don't I never really paid too much attention.
<v Speaker 3>Help. Yeah, there's a lot of micro transactions rights.
<v Speaker 1>Games, and those micro transactions definitely would justify continuing to
<v Speaker 1>work on that stuff if people were buying them. But
<v Speaker 1>if they're not, then it's like you switch right back
<v Speaker 1>into that mode of let's go make the next game.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I kind of just cut your losses right there.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Billatro is a game that does not need
<v Speaker 1>to cut its losses because it has reportedly made over
<v Speaker 1>four million dollars on mobile since its release. This is
<v Speaker 1>from Jordan Midler at VGC Just on Mobile, Just on
<v Speaker 1>Mobile since its release. Blatro has reportedly generated almost four
<v Speaker 1>point four million dollars in revenue on mobile since its
<v Speaker 1>release earlier this year, as reported by pocket Gamer. Information
<v Speaker 1>provided by app Magic claims that the game saw a
<v Speaker 1>sharp increase in revenue on November eighteenth. You know what
<v Speaker 1>happened that day. It got nominated for the Game Awards
<v Speaker 1>at the Game of the Year category. There's a chart
<v Speaker 1>where it shows like, you know, it's like making a
<v Speaker 1>lot of money, make a lot of money, but a
<v Speaker 1>little bit less every week or something like that. And
<v Speaker 1>then on November eighteenth, it just like quadruples, you know,
<v Speaker 1>quintuples or something like that. From the day before or
<v Speaker 1>the week before, I wasn't exactly shore with how the
<v Speaker 1>chart was laid out, but it was like November eighteenth
<v Speaker 1>that had a huge success. It's like, oh yeah, the
<v Speaker 1>Game Awards is that kind of thing these days where
<v Speaker 1>if you are people are gonna be like, what wait
<v Speaker 1>a card game?
<v Speaker 2>What do you talk about?
<v Speaker 1>And then they're gonna go see everyone talking about it,
<v Speaker 1>like I'll try it myself, And then of course that
<v Speaker 1>just sort of builds on it as a knock on
<v Speaker 1>effect where the next person that they talked to is like, wait,
<v Speaker 1>why are you playing this? And I definitely have played
<v Speaker 1>Bilatro in public on my phone and had people like
<v Speaker 1>sort of be like, wait, what is that? That looks
<v Speaker 1>very very enticing. It's just one of those games, right.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, very visually striking the whole Game Awars thing. Though.
<v Speaker 3>I was talking to some friends well while we were
<v Speaker 3>at David Bussers ther night, and you know, they're they're
<v Speaker 3>the normire friends that I talk about, so you know,
<v Speaker 3>they don't necessarily know are or are following a lot
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff, and so they did ask me like, so,
<v Speaker 3>what what does the Game Awards do for someone? Like
<v Speaker 3>why would you want to be a part of it?
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, recognition and awareness, I suppose and you know,
<v Speaker 3>they didn't quite grasp that, and I had explained a
<v Speaker 3>little bit, but something like this perfect example of why, hey,
<v Speaker 3>it's just nice to be nominated if nothing else, because
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna sell a lot because we got nominated. Well
<v Speaker 3>it's i mean, slap that box. You can slap it
<v Speaker 3>on that and soddenly people take more notice.
<v Speaker 1>Right, And it's like, you know, in my heart of hearts,
<v Speaker 1>I don't care too much about the Game Awards and
<v Speaker 1>who wins and all this stuff, but it's clearly been
<v Speaker 1>something that people have decided this does matter because if
<v Speaker 1>a game gets nominated, it's important and I'm gonna go
<v Speaker 1>buy it. And you know this is not the only
<v Speaker 1>example of that. I mean, it takes two went on
<v Speaker 1>to sell something like twenty million copies after winning the
<v Speaker 1>Game of the Year award at the Game Awards.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the.
<v Speaker 1>Benefit is clearly there, and a lot of people watch
<v Speaker 1>those and a lot of people are already paying attention
<v Speaker 1>before it happens. We say, like, it's is this something
<v Speaker 1>that only like hardcore gamers pay attention to? It's like
<v Speaker 1>turns out, you know, if it is, there's a lot
<v Speaker 1>more hardcore gamers out there than we realize.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and that's something that is sort of a
<v Speaker 3>running story of me and Mike talking about stuff like
<v Speaker 3>performance modes in video games and stuff like how many
<v Speaker 3>people are really paying attention to this and stuff like
<v Speaker 3>the way Sony has talked about the PS five pros
<v Speaker 3>indicating that maybe there's more quote hardcore gamers than ever before.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that audience is just expanding. Nothing else, Like kids
<v Speaker 3>are going from mobile gaming kind of like going to
<v Speaker 3>PC gaming nowadays because they want to do what their
<v Speaker 3>favored streamer or whatever is doing. And so I do
<v Speaker 3>think that audience is expanding, and that audience is going
<v Speaker 3>to take up or note of things like this, such
<v Speaker 3>as the game awards and whatnot.
<v Speaker 1>Last couple of quick stories Sega Genesis, Nintendo Switch Online,
<v Speaker 1>then Intend to Switch Online. Sega Genesis, you know, the
<v Speaker 1>thing where you can download the games and play them
<v Speaker 1>on your switch, has added three games Merks ToeJam and
<v Speaker 1>Earl and Panicon, Funko Tron and Vector Man.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I am sure.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just it's just nice to see new Genesis games
<v Speaker 1>added at a certain point, something that has not happened
<v Speaker 1>in I believe it was like seventeen.
<v Speaker 2>Months or something like that. Yeah, lord, yep this.
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about these services, Jeff, I, all
<v Speaker 3>these NSL stuff.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have a vague positivity towards them, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't use them as frequently as like my feelings
<v Speaker 1>toward them would suggest that I would. Let's say, I
<v Speaker 1>guess it's more like I'm glad they're there, and I'm
<v Speaker 1>glad they give me a reason to think about these
<v Speaker 1>games and talk about them on the shows and stuff
<v Speaker 1>like that, but then I don't I don't usually end
<v Speaker 1>up playing any of them.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's how I feel, because if nothing else, we
<v Speaker 3>have so many our ways to play these games that
<v Speaker 3>I kind of just see them as well. For the
<v Speaker 3>people who aren't going to go either way to play
<v Speaker 3>these games in whatever way, it is nice that they're there,
<v Speaker 3>that they're accessible to people, because you always want games
<v Speaker 3>to be accessible, right Exactly. We talked about preservation and
<v Speaker 3>whatnot in the many forms it takes. That's what we're
<v Speaker 3>looking at, And I suppose this is a weird way
<v Speaker 3>to look at, but this is a preservation of some sort,
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's better than.
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of thing where it's like, what we do.
<v Speaker 1>You know, we do the game Mess Game Club over
<v Speaker 1>in game Mess and it's uh yeah, games on Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>Switch Online.
<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, it's easy to get in there, easy
<v Speaker 3>to get in.
<v Speaker 1>There, and if we know everyone can at least access
<v Speaker 1>it in a way that they probably have Nintendo Switch Online,
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't they just.
<v Speaker 3>I just I just wish that the output would be
<v Speaker 3>more because of course it's just ROMs in an emulator.
<v Speaker 3>They could be pulling these out so much faster. I
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it is they don't want to put
<v Speaker 3>the legwork in to do the licensing or whatever, or yeah,
<v Speaker 3>whatever the case may be. They I just think they
<v Speaker 3>should really pick it up. They're probably not going to,
<v Speaker 3>but it would be nice that they did.
<v Speaker 1>Ye Uh. Finally, Dino Crisis and I believe Resident Evil
<v Speaker 1>Directors Cut, which were games that were included in PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>and Plus Classics in the Premium tier, like as something
<v Speaker 1>you could go and get on the service, but you
<v Speaker 1>could not buy them separately. You can now buy them separately,
<v Speaker 1>so a little bit of a psa. I think Eurogamer
<v Speaker 1>spotted that both games are available to buy for eight
<v Speaker 1>dollars eight eight pounds, so I don't know how much,
<v Speaker 1>the ten dollars probably or something like that.
<v Speaker 3>I'd assume ten dollars.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, hey, cool, good. A lot of the other games
<v Speaker 1>already had this, so these were weird exceptions and no
<v Speaker 1>one really knew what was going on. Must have just
<v Speaker 1>been some issue with like an agreement somewhere and Capcom's like,
<v Speaker 1>we'll sign that paperwork eventually and maybe now it's you know,
<v Speaker 1>all good.
<v Speaker 3>So probably is some small thing like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now you know. But now, hey, people that want
<v Speaker 1>to have their collection on their system and own these
<v Speaker 1>games and or you know, on them as much as
<v Speaker 1>you can own anything, you have that option now.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and if nothing else, because these are you know,
<v Speaker 3>modern PlayStation apps, they will carry forward to whoever the
<v Speaker 3>next PlayStation is, you do have to worry about them
<v Speaker 3>necessarily disappearing overnight, like say PS three to PS for
<v Speaker 3>a transition. So that's cool, that's.
<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, let's get to the poll question before
<v Speaker 1>we do that, though, something I am thankful for is
<v Speaker 1>Steve Kim sent me this Blake Club jacket and it
<v Speaker 1>is the Batman like sixty six sixty four whatever the
<v Speaker 1>ridge of the classic Batman logo. But it's a background
<v Speaker 1>and it's this Blake Club across the France. It's embroidered
<v Speaker 1>and it is awesome Steve. It's so awesome that I've
<v Speaker 1>barely been able to wear it because my wife took it.
<v Speaker 1>She's wearing it all the time now. She worked to
<v Speaker 1>the store. Yea, she wore to the store.
<v Speaker 3>She h.
<v Speaker 1>She says it's so cozy and she likes the logo
<v Speaker 1>a lot.
<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited about this. So thank you so much, Steve.
<v Speaker 3>Decent chat this morning, so shout down.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely shot Steve, Steve, thank you so much. This
<v Speaker 1>is this is very cool, and you know what, Thanks
<v Speaker 1>thanks to the wife for repping Blake Club out in public.
<v Speaker 3>Thanks.
<v Speaker 1>Tell you all right, pull question, let me get that
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Oh, all right. Does a new portable
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation need to be able to play all PS five games?
<v Speaker 1>Natively yes, No, but it needs needs to support most No.
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay.
<v Speaker 1>If it's completely separate library, I'm actually I think I'm
<v Speaker 1>in the middle here.
<v Speaker 2>No, but it needs to support most.
<v Speaker 1>If there's like a couple of exceptions, I think I
<v Speaker 1>would still be fine. But most people think it needs
<v Speaker 1>to support the entire PS five library. That's sixty four
<v Speaker 1>percent of respondence. Then twenty percent it's with me there
<v Speaker 1>in the middle says no, but it needs to support
<v Speaker 1>most and sixteen percent say no, I'm okay if it's
<v Speaker 1>completely separate library. I mean, chances are if they do
<v Speaker 1>something like this and they're taking all the time.
<v Speaker 2>That they're reportedly going to.
<v Speaker 1>Take, Sean it is so it can just be a
<v Speaker 1>portable PS five, although you and I both know how
<v Speaker 1>difficult that's going to be for them to pull off.
<v Speaker 3>Right, And we do get really into the weeds on
<v Speaker 3>that on the bomb past if you want more info.
<v Speaker 3>But I guess I'm curious when you asked this question,
<v Speaker 3>were you like assuming that, okay, they're putting out something
<v Speaker 3>that theoreically is a portable PS five. Are we like
<v Speaker 3>assuming that there's going to be cuts to it because
<v Speaker 3>it can't run certain games? Is that kind of what
<v Speaker 3>you were getting at there?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like you're right that there there could
<v Speaker 1>be a situation where it's like, yeah, no, this is
<v Speaker 1>like there's a possibility that, yeah, a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>PS five games will just work, but here's one for
<v Speaker 1>this reason that doesn't actually especially about a third party
<v Speaker 1>game or something like that, yeah, right, like last.
<v Speaker 3>Or even like something well yeah, like Dragon's Dogma two
<v Speaker 3>doesn't run because it's gonna make your hand Hill exploded
<v Speaker 3>right exactly.
<v Speaker 1>And the other you know, there's a handful like Alan
<v Speaker 1>Allen Wake two like uses that new rendering tech that's
<v Speaker 1>leaving my brain right now. It's like, oh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>that should just be in there, it should just work.
<v Speaker 1>But Messa, yeah, mess shaters, right, that's probably gonna work.
<v Speaker 1>But maybe something along those lines. But again, the most
<v Speaker 1>likely situation here is and this is because like this
<v Speaker 1>is a business thing as much as it is a
<v Speaker 1>presenting it to the public. Reason, they don't want to
<v Speaker 1>have to make separate games for this thing. That's the
<v Speaker 1>whole reason they stopped making the PSPs in the in
<v Speaker 1>the in the Psveta, because they didn't want to support
<v Speaker 1>a whole separate thing. And then they start doing that
<v Speaker 1>again with the PSVR, and then clearly they don't want
<v Speaker 1>to do that anymore either.
<v Speaker 3>So and that's why we have the trendsetter in Nintendo
<v Speaker 3>doing what they did because unifying all of their developers
<v Speaker 3>on a single system paid off huge for them. And
<v Speaker 3>then you have the other approach with valve, making the
<v Speaker 3>Steam deck be on to take advantage of the games
<v Speaker 3>that you've already put out there. Then you can already
<v Speaker 3>just have a device that runs all of it, and
<v Speaker 3>you incentivize people to buy more games in your ecosystem
<v Speaker 3>because they just buy one additional piece of hardware and
<v Speaker 3>they can continue making purchases and while having the alternative
<v Speaker 3>way to play. So that's right. Yeah, it makes sense.
<v Speaker 3>It makes sense if they started going this route, like
<v Speaker 3>you know, Xbox said that they would that the way
<v Speaker 3>Nintendo has and these various PC manufacturers are doing. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think it makes a lot of sense.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly, all right, We got a new poll question
<v Speaker 1>here in a second. Before we get to that, though, Sean,
<v Speaker 1>why don't you tell people where they can find you
<v Speaker 1>on the internet what you have going on all that
<v Speaker 1>good stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Sure you can find me over on Blue Sky. I'm
<v Speaker 3>Turbo Shan A H A W N, and you'd find
<v Speaker 3>me doing a whole bunch of stuff. You're a giant bomb.
<v Speaker 3>It's been a very busy November. So I'm gonna edit
<v Speaker 3>the voicemail dumb truck in a little bit and then
<v Speaker 3>go to sleep. Well, actually I'm going out with friends
<v Speaker 3>tonight again, but after that getting to law sleep and
<v Speaker 3>then sort of resting up for maybe a week or
<v Speaker 3>so before we begin to some exciting Game of the
<v Speaker 3>Year stuff.
<v Speaker 1>AJEF Yep, yep, it's all it's happening. We'll have a
<v Speaker 1>GB at night. Then we'll we'll be doing the pre
<v Speaker 1>show for the Game Awards. I don't know, is that
<v Speaker 1>the official way we have to talk about? How the
<v Speaker 1>pre show of the Game Awards. That sounds like what
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to.
<v Speaker 3>I believe that's what we said in the social video
<v Speaker 3>that was put out. Okay, yeah, I remember how much
<v Speaker 3>has Alma talked about I'm just going off of what
<v Speaker 3>she said.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is uh, you know again, we're helping out
<v Speaker 1>with that. That's a lot of other people putting that
<v Speaker 1>together and we're doing our best to help out with that.
<v Speaker 1>And then right after that we will get together maybe
<v Speaker 1>talk about some Games of the Year, and we'll have
<v Speaker 1>some news about it.
<v Speaker 3>Talk about some games.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll have some news about what that's gonna look
<v Speaker 1>like eventually for y'all, but maybe it'll be kind of
<v Speaker 1>more a traditional way of doing things.
<v Speaker 2>So look forward to that.
<v Speaker 1>All right, new poll question if Sony acquires the parent
<v Speaker 1>company of From Software. Will future from Soft games be
<v Speaker 1>exclusive to PlayStation?
<v Speaker 2>Yes or no? As always interpreted that how you want?
<v Speaker 2>If exclusive just means well, of course it's still coming
<v Speaker 2>to PC, but not Xbox.
<v Speaker 1>Yes or no.
<v Speaker 2>You answer that how you want, we'll get their answer.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like everything PlayStation does comes to PCs.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, so just build that, build that exclusive.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah maybe, yeah, exactly.
<v Speaker 1>We'll get the results of that and talk about it
<v Speaker 1>after this long holiday break for us here in America again, Thanksgivings. Tomorrow,
<v Speaker 1>we're going to go enjoy ourselves, get some rest, come
<v Speaker 1>back refreshed and ready to talk about everything. Any last
<v Speaker 1>thing you want to mention, Sean, one last thing you're
<v Speaker 1>thankful for?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll squeeze in here. I do want to say
<v Speaker 3>that I am I was thinking about this last night
<v Speaker 3>while doing some stuff, and I am really thankful for
<v Speaker 3>the Giant Bomb audience that is here today. Giant Bomb
<v Speaker 3>looks a lot different that did you know, fifteen, ten,
<v Speaker 3>even five years ago at this point, So the fact
<v Speaker 3>that there are a bunch of people still showing up
<v Speaker 3>in the live chats and the comments hitting us up
<v Speaker 3>in our mentions on social media and saying the nice
<v Speaker 3>things because let's not be around the bush, Jeff. There's
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people out there who have very negative
<v Speaker 3>thoughts about Giant Bomb and people who are like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>still live over there, huh. So it's really nice that
<v Speaker 3>there's still people around here hanging out, listening to the podcast,
<v Speaker 3>watching the shows, tune into ours, all of our silly
<v Speaker 3>live streams that we do. I really appreciate that, and
<v Speaker 3>it is wild to me, Jeff, as you know, a
<v Speaker 3>poor kid from a not great neighborhood, kind of a
<v Speaker 3>rough upbringing to now have my dream job talking about
<v Speaker 3>video games for a living, and I have the audience
<v Speaker 3>to think for that. Have you to thank for that
<v Speaker 3>take your chance on me a few years back and
<v Speaker 3>hopefully has paid off. And I'm just I'm in a
<v Speaker 3>good place right now. I just want to share that
<v Speaker 3>there are one.
<v Speaker 2>That is awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm thankful to have you here, Thankful to always
<v Speaker 1>talk about video games with you.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll echo what he said, thankful to all
<v Speaker 1>of you who listen and tune in it does you
<v Speaker 1>know in a real way, like of like nuts and
<v Speaker 1>bolts way enables us to leverage some things to make
<v Speaker 1>make some stuff happen, and it might not always look
<v Speaker 1>that way, but you know it does.
<v Speaker 2>It's real. So thank you all for watching listening.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm like reading about the history of
<v Speaker 1>computing right now, and it's like every single story end
<v Speaker 1>with like, maybe we should have been building a community
<v Speaker 1>instead of what we were doing instead, and it's like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>so every time that we do something here to like
<v Speaker 1>build this community, we're making the right choice. And you
<v Speaker 1>guys always pay that back. So thank you everybody. Thanks
<v Speaker 1>everybody who works so hard.
<v Speaker 2>On the teams.
<v Speaker 1>You know, thanks to you know, people like Emma Fife
<v Speaker 1>who just makes like kind of like is this scaffolding
<v Speaker 1>around that holds us up? And for things like that.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you to just everybody. Thanks Jeff Banklar for being
<v Speaker 1>in a million meetings and kind of not getting on
<v Speaker 1>my ass.
<v Speaker 3>Backlar doing Yeah, I know, you don't see a lot
<v Speaker 3>of backlard nowadays, people adds because he does the boring
<v Speaker 3>stuff that no one else wants to so we can
<v Speaker 3>do what we do, so shouts at him.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, just thanks to everybody.
<v Speaker 3>He hasn't been here for a little bit. Jan Jan
<v Speaker 3>deserves so much more appreciation that gets. Y'all don't know
<v Speaker 3>how hard that man works. So shouts to Jannis, and.
<v Speaker 1>I know he's similar to me, and that I think
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like to hear it because he's just like,
<v Speaker 1>but no, thank you, jan you deserve it.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, and thank you everybody.
<v Speaker 1>So all right, we're going to get out of here.
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the pull question. I said, thank you so
<v Speaker 1>much for talking to me about video games. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you're the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have
<v Speaker 1>a good one, take care of yourself and goodbye. Oh
<v Speaker 1>I'm grubw or grub dot WTF.
<v Speaker 3>Good handle, good handle,