Mary J. Blige on "My Life, My Story" residency, Dr. Dre & Jay-Z stories & her BIGGEST hip hop influences

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Speaker 1: And I can't please everybody. Oh, I don't want Mary to be sad again. You host that the best?

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Speaker 2: You want my old music, go buy my old album.

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Speaker 3: It's the Guard Crack Care.

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Speaker 5: Every show legendary, every show iconic, and we.

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Speaker 3: Crushing these niggas.

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Speaker 4: Now, when you think of today's guests, We're gonna have to cut it a little short because we could be here for hours.

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Speaker 3: When you're think of today's guests, you think of genuine. You think of the queen of hip hop show I'm talking bridge.

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Speaker 4: You think of coming from a household with some good ass fool You think of some of the best siblings. I know you know DMX brought us to Rough Riders, but you don't know she passed out actual demo tape which actually got us our first record.

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Speaker 3: There. You think of being able.

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Speaker 4: To withstand and persevere through all of the errors and just evolved and get better and get richer and get more everything. Ladies and gentlemen, no, no, we got you wanna keep going.

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Speaker 3: We gotta think of slow. Oh yes, you think of who that's right? You think of you? Yeah, motherfuck amergell you think of artist, you take a brown eyes.

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Speaker 4: That's right, de leons, that's right, think of wheels, ladies and gentlemen. Makes her noy for Mary James.

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Speaker 1: Thank y'all, Thank y'all, thank y'all. So what's that's up?

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Speaker 2: Y'all?

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Speaker 6: Yo, sister, you looking like you're looking like a bag of money out there.

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Speaker 7: Everybody turn their ringers off if you if you're back, Ald honey, because we got a live studio audience in cases too young.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about the shows that used to be taped with a live studio.

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Speaker 3: Today. Of you say anything too loud.

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Speaker 5: Or your ringer goes off, you're gonna get kicked out this house.

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Speaker 4: This is a very serious, important shoulder to me, biggest.

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Speaker 3: My wife today.

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Speaker 1: My bag is not in here right because my ring is on.

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Speaker 4: Your folking ring like you going like a slip vegas your fucking ring on the whole episode when you're good.

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Speaker 6: Littania, Listen that ship you got on. I see you already got your money from the Chimney fire us.

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Speaker 3: Yo. He's shooting at me.

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Speaker 6: That up at the fastest insurance money.

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Speaker 4: Motherfucker, I haven't seen I said my Chimney didn't catch on firing me.

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Speaker 3: Just had the opening day with our sister.

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Speaker 4: Is in the buildings of birthday, can we were?

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Speaker 7: We show love here, So ladies and jenlemen, happy birthday and the rest me. Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to.

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Speaker 3: You, Happy birthday day.

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Speaker 8: Many Happy birthday to you, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank God. Mary ain't my wife because she know how to convince me. She looked at you.

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Speaker 6: She was like, Joey, I like that change, Joey. I like that change, Joey. I like that cha oh fuck it. Let me go buy and marry this jake. She told me today you ain't get me no gift. I said, well, did you renally get your Since said, yeah, that's the same back just in the same fucking family. We don't miss on the gifts like you gotta stop since we love you so much. The whole thing is that the whole world loves you, so don't got like we can't over love the whole world the love like I cash it.

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Speaker 3: Over I ever much the world lover. I love him a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit over the world because I wouldn't really, big man, that's you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Credible.

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Speaker 4: I know you say, Chris Lady pulled up to your projects.

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Speaker 3: Know this and that and this, like this the way you like to go this that this. We had a lot of meetings. They curved us a lot. He was hammling a lot of shit.

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Speaker 4: We finally got the demo that we thought was strong enough. Shout out to my brother James Box jamark o'miller's yes, sir, make.

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Speaker 3: Some noise for my man father out of here. You know what I'm saying, Joe. It's also Latanya lt that on his birthday, Happy Birthday, the LTV we all stuff and I called it yesterday to single happy Birthday. I did. I'll shing you to it right now.

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Speaker 6: Sis, how you feeling? Uh, you don't just promote? Boy, do you promote like you'll stay quiet for a minute. But I don't seen you on Good Morning America. Sherrie is different level.

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Speaker 3: W was not fucking around talk about this residency. I have to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a huge deal. It's I mean, at this point in your career, this is where you're supposed to be. You know, touring is one thing, it's amazing, but you know, it's a lot of getting on buses, getting on planes, running up and down the road. But this is like you know, you go to Vegas, you sit there, you sit in a mansion hotel, and then you.

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Speaker 3: Go for you.

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Speaker 6: We ain't gonna buy. We're gonna rent the mansion just to go to our show every night.

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Speaker 3: Okay, coming, I know, I don't know. Hell yeah coming. We gonna beat it. Think we're not gonna beat it, everybody. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: When they first announced it the world, it was like, COVID tell you know about it, Harry's cut.

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Speaker 3: My mommy called me jasus I her Mary. I said, my got you.

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Speaker 9: Don't worry man got you? So that let me tell you it's too right. It's too that crazy Lorna's brother from Colombia, Lucito, my brother. He don't speak much English, but he know Mary.

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Speaker 6: But he don't really know Mary because he's into Reggaetna and all that shit. So when he asked me, I said, well, she's the English Marc Anthony, that's the best way to describe it. To Mark Anthony, legend he tell our Madison Square Garden right now, He'll be like Tonight's show, So doubt that's how Mary is. So I'm trying to explain them. You know Mark Anthony only years number one hits. That's what she is in English. But Mark Anthony got a resident and see out there too, so we all just.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice difficult or the winds win.

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Speaker 3: I don't know he has. I don't know. I don't know ship.

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Speaker 6: How about that? I just pull up my new ship is I'm sneaking into everything.

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Speaker 3: I just pull up. Hold on to Monica LT. You don't like to get on camera, but this for Marianne LT bringing it. You're the scar face like this. Excuse me another one? Two three? I be birthday? Be birthday? You have bad day? Ltday You.

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Speaker 4: That's a nice yoall. That's a beautiful, beautiful cake. Thank you be Birthday. We love y'all.

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Speaker 1: Joe show, we love so much.

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Speaker 3: Tell him? How big is this show? Right here? Marython, don't front you be watching? This ship is massive?

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Speaker 6: Oh I gotta hold it, blow it up two times a fella, tru time of fella.

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Speaker 1: The show is massive. Man, this is legend. How you saying legend?

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Speaker 3: This is huge?

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Speaker 6: Nah? We love you man, We got you. You are actually first show on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Reallyss on the Netflix because ress On gett into the bag back back.

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Speaker 3: You know, I delivered on my promise.

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Speaker 6: You know, my business partner was looking at me like he was like, yo, Joe, So with the bag, I said, Yo, don't worry y'all. We're gonna get that bag. We're gonna get the legend that we're gonna smoke him out. He said, Yo Joe, But what's up? He started getting antsy, and God came with it. You know this type of ship, you know what I'm saying. So we are, Oh Mary, we like this disrespectful up to the knees. I want these guys to hurry up and quick up to the knees. I want these guys to quit already, like everybody in podcast, may give it up thro the fucking I wain and go go retire this ship different right here, it's that real ship right here. You see the Louis. You see the Louis, You see the Fendi.

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Speaker 3: First we shipping on it and we ain't even cast one bagging yet. This is rap money a fact. Joe, Sis you luddy ship man. And let me tell you something.

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Speaker 6: I remember Patty LaBelle told me because you know my favorite single ball time is Luthor.

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Speaker 3: You knew Luther all that.

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Speaker 1: No, not really. I met him once brief, but I didn't know him.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, that's crazy. No, he's from five blocks away from me. Here we go. Today's Wyo, my brother, Today's who.

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Speaker 6: Who's the old school lady from Wayo? The first one that popped off?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Under thunder raid Man under Raid.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to him about all one day.

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Speaker 6: He was like, yeah, I see at the supermarket all the time, Like she really from Yarkice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she living seven pounds.

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Speaker 6: And now you sung recipes a j Herwell, right, you sung to him, Anita Baker, So go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead, let me tell you the story.

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Speaker 3: So it's okay.

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Speaker 1: You remember the gallery in White Plains, right, remember the day it was a big thing about them getting the karaoke machine. So we went to the mall and I recorded, which was my favorite song at the moment, was Caught Up in the Rapture. And I recorded Caught Up in the Rapture, And I bought the tape on my my mother's boyfriend, who was my stepfather. We called my stepfather. He worked at General Motors with Jeff Redd and my Vernon, and Jeff Red was already on he had you called and told me Jeffred gave the tape to Andre Herrol. Andre came to Slovamb and came up to my house. I sang the whole Anita Baker Rapture album because that was my album at the time. Rest is history. He's here.

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Speaker 3: You know what's crazy? Man, shout out.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to disrespectful, shout out my best friend ever in life. He dead, long time tor one Tana, but he was one of them fly ll cool j type. He had every girl you wanted from Harlem and the Bronx, but he had this this chubby girl and that used to be like your tone because he had no no I'm fat, I'm fat Joe, but he had this girl that didn't fit his normal profile. So we over there sitting in the house and all that Washington projects. I'm like, yo, my man, what's up? He was like, she singing them. She used to sing Anita Baker to toll Boy. He was sitting in his lips. She was like, God, that look.

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Speaker 3: Out she sings to me.

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Speaker 1: That's what I sing. Cord and the Rapture was every hood girls. You know, we were all wanting to be in love when somebody love us, and that song just made us knowl it made us think about you know, the man. We wanted not to give a mushie, but you know, I'm a chick and.

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Speaker 6: Said Anita Baker, I know if you performing with it, but you actually told the you know, like he said the demo, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You don't sing Anita Baker. We don't hear Mary J. Blige as we know that's right right.

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Speaker 1: Well it was It wasn't caught up in the rapture that put me onto Anita Baker. It was angel, You're my angel. That's what maybe like, that's what.

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Speaker 3: Angels that ship. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then I fell in love with Anita Bacon saying her songs, you know, and then.

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Speaker 4: I eventually let the Baker doing all the stuff she did that led up to do You Remind Me?

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Speaker 5: When You Remind Me came out, it was like everybody got hit the honor roll. In a while, it was like we can't hear enoughing. We were still there, so we were still like.

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Speaker 7: Parties and slow by my Shirley's Runner, it was like a hundred times in the row.

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Speaker 3: The baseman of the thing.

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Speaker 7: They're playing back for hour. It was Doge Buff Daddy with the drums. So first with the drums. The drums who put the drums, that was Dave Wall the business he did the biz office mark.

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Speaker 1: That's what it remind me. Yeah, that's the that I sang over. And he did this cheese over the drums and it was a strictly business sounds, business business sound that's the movie. So so Andre didn't know what to do with me because he was looking at me like, Okay, she's no Whitney Houston. She's not gonna wear a gown. She looks like a little tomboy, right, So I was shelved kind of, but it was strictly business the strictly business soundtrack where you remind me read Alert, pulled the song off, put it in the mixed show on DJ's ram with it, and then they introduced me to Huff who was like, oh, I know exactly what to do with her. And Joasy was already out and he was like, she's gonna be a female Jodasy And for the hat turn back was give us some tough ones.

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Speaker 3: And you know, because I ain't gonna a lot of men.

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Speaker 6: I hear them grums anywhere I go out to see that the Puff Daddy Dance. I knew that diddy Bop was with them drums, Like when I you know, music is music is like a fucking you know, it takes.

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Speaker 3: The right to He had not I know about him. He just here. I say, he didn't have one thing to do with the drums. But oh what but he they've oth us what she saying? Man them drums?

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Speaker 6: Your mind me of that diddy Bop, that that you know, that ship right there, like you know me and how we battle a wop in the crib.

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Speaker 4: I'm not lying, mother, fake could challenge her, But I don't even know why you got the gumption, dh.

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Speaker 3: That's one thing. We ain't got to convince you much of the right music.

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Speaker 6: Come on, you fucking dancing your ass off in the door of the kitchen, cause we gotta convince you for everything. But that shit like that, that shit, it's a whole thing where we went, where we went.

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Speaker 3: To see Chris Brown.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we walking through the concert and all that shit.

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Speaker 3: She I knew that Mary J.

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Speaker 6: Blize don't do shit like that, So she's walking. We gotta walk through the ship. She I become her security. When I'm with her, I'm security. So she I am not the number one object it's like all, I like, I will fuck twenty niggas up for her, like I gotta like, I gotta turn it to Joey from the Bronx when I'm with us.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we had a beautiful time.

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Speaker 6: But I kept fighting with Ralph McDaniels because he had footage of you when you was like eighteen or nineteen, and I think it was in Mount Vernon's. It was one of your first shows. And I asked Ralph, I asked, Uncle Ralph, see your Ralph Man?

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Speaker 3: Like, did you?

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Speaker 6: He said, bro, I knew the second I saw her rocks. He was like that ship turned upside down and he was like, she going, you know, all many are You know the women.

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Speaker 3: At your show they hate man. They hate man. That's a flat Charlie.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think they hate man. I think they just tied of being hurt. They don't know how to process, like none of us knew how to process what we were going through with men back in the days. So I don't think they hate them. They just don't know how to, you know, process the hurt that they're going through with men, or how to even love themselves out of it. You know, I don't think it's hate for you. I think it's hate for the fact that they don't know what to do with this feeling. You get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: We're talking. I go to your shoulder. I said, like, I'm getting sad. Why don't you flaming? And when the human with the same feeling.

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Speaker 6: I've been going to her concerts with my wife for thirty years and she goes, I don't know if you know. She be sniped Yoe, my brother Joe here and my sister Joe.

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Speaker 3: Do the right thing.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, so fuck chicks from upper depth of Stone grinsies out me and shit.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I come over here to get cursed the fuck out every yo.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, they like you gotta be a strong man to take your girl there and stand there.

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Speaker 3: I'm going down. You feel like they I'm going down.

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Speaker 6: It's a decent way of cursing every guy out in the universe. And you sitting in there like, yo, Mary, I love your ship, but why they gotta curse me out?

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Speaker 3: Like what I'm doing wrong?

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Speaker 6: But that empowerment, you know, And it's sad because so many years me watching you is fucked up. But they say, Yo, Mary, you know she gotta be going through some shit so we can get the best work from her, like you know, them painful records. And it's fucked up because your biggest songs come from your personal experiences and heartbreaks, and tell us about that. When you fucking crush, that's when you do your best shit.

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Speaker 1: I used to think that was the situation, but I think that just like the fans, they can only relate to you from where they are. So I was where I was, So I was sad, I was suicidal. I was trying over some nigga all the time, and.

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Speaker 3: That was very relatable to a lot of.

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Speaker 1: The exactly and so I was, honestly just given where I was at. So when I was, when I say just fine, I wasn't, you know, just fine. I wanted to be just fine. I wanted to be happy. If you look at my life, I want you to see what I'm living, what I'm going. Look at my life. So it's just about being relatable and just letting people see where I was, you know, honestly through my music. And I still do the same thing, and I can't please everybody. Oh Mary, to be sad again, You hostet the best. You want my old music, go by my old album, you know, because I can't stay for you guys. But I understand, I totally get it. So where I am right now, you'll get where where I'm at right now. But I'm not. I'm not saying, oh, you know the hell with the girls, that's broken hearted? Absolutely not. But I can't get with you in certain places anymore. You understand I'm saying without came out of Doctor Rock yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I give no, my knee fucked up, so I get the therapy. Iccord you with doctor Rob Trump for the name after Doctor Rock. By the way, the fucking building says doctor, I'm taking you to the doctor.

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Speaker 3: Dre a fucking knee and foot doctors.

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Speaker 6: Like I'm right, but I'm Then I come outside and there's this Cuban dude and he's always so happy, right dog skinning Cuban dude, all fat you know I'm after Cuban yesterday was crying.

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Speaker 3: He said, my wife leave me for guy in Atlanta, take my two daughters.

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Speaker 6: No, this real shit, and he wants Fat Joe to really therapy him. Like you know, I'm trying to my wife waiting in the car I'm trying to get up out of there.

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Speaker 3: He's like, fun.

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Speaker 6: So I gotta sit down with this man and he thank god he got the other security and work with him. He was like, yo, Joe, I said, by the way, this guy's fly too. No pause, whatever you want to say. He ain't no ugly dude. He's flying and he worked hard's I worked fourteen hours a day.

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Speaker 3: The point is I'm trying to make I'm telling him I had a friend. I don't know. I gotta talk him off the ledge.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: It was a quick quitch.

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Speaker 6: I have a friend that they called me one day and said he's killing himself. His wife cheated on him and said, Joe, please come over here, right. So I go over there. Yo, my man, you the man, and you know I'm doing whatever I can. You the man, this and that, long story short, he was crying. He's a you know, tough guy. This and this and that. I've seen him a year later and the man run up to me, Yo Joe, you.

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Speaker 3: Won't believe it.

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Speaker 6: I have a new wife, beautiful Dominican. She's a pastor. She doesn't want to go out. He shows me pictures beautiful. This guy was gonna kill himself the year before. So I'm telling him, I know, heartbreak, no matter male or female, is fucking devastate. Yeah, you could be a man and be crying like that man was crying in the middle of his job yesterday. I had to take some time out to talk to him and try to talk him off the ledge.

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Speaker 3: But that's what your music does for women, men, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was I was talking. This was a long time ago. I was talking to a guy and he was like, do you know what's one of my favorite song I'm talking about like a drug dealer? Like, no, like.

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Speaker 3: You know one of those one of those.

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Speaker 1: He was like, you know what one of my favorite Mary J. Black song is. I thought he was gonna like every day it range and something like that. He was like, I'm going down. I was like, why him? Yes? And so in these concerts there's men singing the song, like I'm talking about men, men, men I sing singing the songs drug dealers, I mean construction workers and yeah, and they said it helped him through I'm going down, help them to sell it, to stay on the corn and sell the drugs that they were selling. And that's I was like, what I didn't understand it, but after you've give them that story. Just now, everybody, everybody.

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Speaker 3: You know I did dirty. Everybody got dig dirty.

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Speaker 6: I don't know about anybody else, but I got done filthy.

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Speaker 3: I had a girlfriend that I used to tell.

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Speaker 6: I hate that dude, Black Dave, I hate Juanito, I hate Chico, I hate this.

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Speaker 3: She fucked all of them when I broke up with her, every last one of them. Everybody Yo. They was like yo yoe, three in the morning calling me. I'm like, yo, what's up there? She's walking out with white daddy.

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Speaker 6: Everybody I ever told her I didn't like. She fucked them all. It's horrible, it's horrible looking for me. It was strong, No, no, not strong. I ain't want to be with her. You ever been in a relationship with the guys talking like I was in a relationship with a girl.

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Speaker 3: Does she talking all that hot shit?

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Speaker 6: And the whole time I'm looking at it, I'm like, bitch, I don't even want to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm sitting there like, huh, what this one thing?

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Speaker 2: With you?

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Speaker 6: Madly in love? You go through the motions. It's another thing when you checked out already. Usually about that time. Women they making their exit plans. They got their money, they cash they had saved, dup.

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Speaker 3: They're getting the.

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Speaker 6: Fuck up at they get jokes on you guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you ever been with it?

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Speaker 2: With it.

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Speaker 3: Nigga's crazy.

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Speaker 6: You ever been in a situation where the god's talking all that shit and you're looking at him like yo, I've been done, Like yup that shit crazy.

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Speaker 1: When it's done is done. When a person is not giving you peace, it's poisoned. So you already almost you know. Now they whack. They ugly. They're not bringing you the things you need. So now they ain't cute no more. They nose who's bigger than what it normally is. Their stomach is fatter than what it So you're like, no, you whacking ugly anyway, this is what you're saying in your mind. I'm out of here. But he's still thinking, he hot. I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: He's still thinking, yeah, my nigga.

00:27:05
Speaker 6: You like hello, like you sitting there like hello, like bitch, you on the chopping block right now, like you asked out it. You better hold on to whatever you got, and you know, salute the guys that had girls bought them a couple of things. To let them leave with their things, because this will be some rich niggas that want to keep the bat. We gott my man in the fucking boxing. He sued the girl. He went to federal court. He wanted the Burkings back. The boxer what's his name.

00:27:34
Speaker 3: Devin Ain't.

00:27:34
Speaker 6: He actually went to court broke up with his baby Mossles like, yo, I need the Burken bags back, the earrings.

00:27:41
Speaker 3: Like come on, you know what, that's right? We go charged that like that's him guilty. They had no back seats. Let me tell you keep the fucking bag.

00:27:51
Speaker 6: I fought with my wife one time and I started looking at the diamonds and all the watches. I said, man, she got more money than me. I'm making stick a round boy.

00:28:00
Speaker 3: Fuck that. She got the bag right here.

00:28:02
Speaker 6: Like so, Mary, we're a hip hop show, Yeah, run down back in the day.

00:28:11
Speaker 3: Who's some of the favorite records? And I know some of your favorite but like our star w with Raps New Generation one day we was talking about hip hop and no no sens and signing for Brooklyn Raps New Generation from the super level.

00:28:26
Speaker 6: Seeing all them guys that generation. I've seen you sing the Heart of Heart, how you fall in love with hip hop? And you know what was the first songs that you was parting too in the gyms they at the jams and yonkits too, right, That's.

00:28:39
Speaker 1: How we had a lot of block parties, School twelve and the School twelve parties came the school parties like y'all came up behind us, but y'all caught up to you know, School twelve parties and the DJs, you know, mixing all of the hip hop records. That's how like they was playing all the samples like u FO, Member UFO.

00:28:59
Speaker 3: And nought Less.

00:29:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was I fell in love just with the samples, you know. And then it was back then it was like Terrorists one was a big deal. Big Daddy Kane was a big deal. Caras one and Big Daddy Kane was youngers. What everybody had. Everybody had a shoes, everybody was went around playing like everybody had all the drug dealers had fact right cottage both everybody had some. So it was all about the School twelve parties and in the summer, the block parties. So the DJs they put us on and they put us on to the stuff that they did they didn't play on the radio. They put us on to the ship. That people be like, how you know that, like.

00:29:46
Speaker 6: If you DJ from you because I'm talking about he ain't got to be big timing number somebody who was rocking them jams.

00:29:53
Speaker 3: It wasn't shut out Supreme At.

00:29:55
Speaker 1: People was coming them out of town to play in DJ shows in it. I mean it used to be like you have like B Master, g Masters, you had breaking them those guys. It was from Warburton, froms and er.

00:30:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got us.

00:30:12
Speaker 6: We got it right now. They caught that shout out so legend wherever they at. That's like I'm telling you, you gotta remember, you know to me, Supreme.

00:30:22
Speaker 3: Huts put me on.

00:30:23
Speaker 6: We get We had the best block parties in Supreme Hush. They mother was called mother Earth and mother Earth would sitting behind the ropes and they be like, back up from the ropes.

00:30:33
Speaker 3: Mother Earth.

00:30:34
Speaker 6: They'll stop the fucking music for an hour talking about back up mother Earth. Got no they was you know, they was in power and they was rocking. And that's how we learned all that hip hop. Ship to carry us one and Harris One.

00:30:47
Speaker 1: Big Daddy came. Houdini was it was Bigos Wills from Will five minutes of funk like skating rings gave us a lot of you know, good hip.

00:30:59
Speaker 3: Hops, skating ringing wild called Wills. Yep.

00:31:03
Speaker 1: Wills was on a big deal. And then when we all got old enough to run the Harlem and all these other places we was running to. There was the Red Zone, there was the Octagon, the Tunnel, the Red Power. I was I was too young for the Red Power, but I heard but I was in the Red Zone. I was in the Tunnel. I was in the Octagon. And somewhere else Number Spot just the Spy Club. The Spike was called the Spy Club, but.

00:31:29
Speaker 6: Anybody got one. I remember the one? What was that club? USA? They built the club. They spent so many millions. That's the night I seen Biggie came up to me. He pulled out the gun in the sheet. He said, you've seen DJ Clue. I said, I ain't see. He just kept going. I just saw a clue. I just saw a clue. He had the hammer and his ship, he had a vest. He was like, yo, just crack steak.

00:31:52
Speaker 3: Clue. I said, clue just walked by. He saved his life. What legend it was mixtape.

00:32:00
Speaker 1: So so I got put on to the Jungle Brothers through a misage. Ship straight off the Jungle, That's one of my favorite, Like I know every word.

00:32:13
Speaker 3: For work t Blue Brother. I was selling drugs to the Jungle Brothers.

00:32:19
Speaker 6: Like I'm in the corner watching ship move with the box playing Jungle Brother's Jungle.

00:32:26
Speaker 3: I remember that ship. That was that ship, I know the whole like ship.

00:32:33
Speaker 1: Wow.

00:32:34
Speaker 6: They was legendary, the Jungle brother and they had that.

00:32:40
Speaker 1: That was the that was the youngest anthem right there. And Jungle Brother JB for sure a bit a bit moram and.

00:32:49
Speaker 10: Almost so I let him go. I let him run along, run along, wild Ship. You know, I'm listening to the radio. It's your birthday.

00:32:59
Speaker 6: So I don't know if you know because you was out here moving, working and promoting the residency. But I heard Smith and Wesson on the radio and they told last story how that eyes shine you Shine came about and they said they was in the club. I guess you puff. They invited them back to the studio and they said they jumped on the joint and that's what they said on the radio.

00:33:23
Speaker 3: You remember that, well.

00:33:26
Speaker 1: I don't remember being in the studio with Smith and Wesson. I don't remember that, but I do remember Puff bringing it back to me with them on it, and they was one of my favorites at the time. When I heard them on, I just I went crazy. I was like, we gone meet you know? That was it right here? And now I know everybody's gonna be watching. I said it earlier to myself. Buck Shall Shorty goat, He'll go buck Shall Shorty duck down, buck shot Shorty a goat by fall.

00:33:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I'm like, I'm ready to put them as a goat, like one of the greatest of all time.

00:34:01
Speaker 3: And I don't think we ever talk about him like that, but.

00:34:04
Speaker 6: The ship man listen to that, and it still goes in my fucking blood.

00:34:10
Speaker 3: When the when the just and and and and then and the.

00:34:15
Speaker 1: Flows and the other one comes something something come follow me? Something is crazy? What's the four one one album is narrated by that.

00:34:32
Speaker 6: We gotta pull that Fendi fur down, see them all of them down. Oh that's for their eyes. Mary threatened me, right, that's crazy. We had our birthday party and I pull up and she's like, you better come with that ship on when I come, because I'm coming and I said, damn, I rethought the whole ship still when in the clients it really calculated this, I said, man, I gotta come with some fendy first, some other because she come through.

00:35:01
Speaker 3: You never dressed whack.

00:35:03
Speaker 6: If you come to my house from the supermarket, from anywhere, you freshed down, even in the like on a regular day. If you come on a regular regular of all days, you got that ship on what is fastened to you? And I know why I brought up Luther Venger before you answered that. I'm gonna tell you why. Patti LaBelle told me Luther Vanjels had a closet with couches and TV in there, and if you go visit him in his house, he puts you in the closet and starts showing yo, this that scapperbelly.

00:35:40
Speaker 3: Yo, this is that one of one bou Maine.

00:35:44
Speaker 6: This I think for all my years of following Mary Ja, like, your closet gotta be fucking ridiculous.

00:35:54
Speaker 1: It's insane. And I can't even find half of the stuff that I wore through the years, like it's just and it's still crazy. I wish I could find all of that stuff that I was wearing.

00:36:03
Speaker 6: What do you mean like the stolen missing nor no nigga stole my Oh yeah you do? You still got the army coat? Will flowed your Nah, but I got an army coat. I almost wore that ship just on the regular, just outside the day. Now I got motherfucking Lord Piana army coach nine thousand.

00:36:21
Speaker 3: To the jack. But GoAhead, but when you moving, they stole your ship?

00:36:27
Speaker 1: No?

00:36:27
Speaker 3: When was it burned down in the chimney fire?

00:36:31
Speaker 1: Nah, it's just it's a lot of it probably is stolen because like I don't know where it was at. But when you're moving, you just things just get lost and everywhere, and then you know, you get I gave a lot of stuff away like he'll just take it, and you know, I wish I didn't.

00:36:48
Speaker 6: But that's not crazy because the Renner gave manship away. That now is the style. Now we bind it again because as he liked the ship. This is the vintage like I had that in every color. I gave it out this, this, that, everything coming back everything, the residency. You doing it different.

00:37:06
Speaker 5: You will have actors and yeah.

00:37:12
Speaker 1: It's called my life, my life story, So I'm definitely gonna use some actors. And actresses to tell the story. You know, ain't gonna be like a bunch of acting like it's going to be a Mary J. Blige show with little bits of like things involved to pull on your memory from interviews that I've done. You'd be like, oh, why she said that? And you know she said this was that? So it'll be B sides like songs that like, there's a lot of songs I never perform, So the B sides that we're picking, Oh my.

00:37:41
Speaker 3: God, no, we want that, Like that was the number one question.

00:37:44
Speaker 6: I went around and hustle hustle a couple of women, and I was like, what should I ask Mary, because you know we would well, thank God, I'm blessed to be with Mary J. Blige all the time. And let me tell you something, I don't take you for granted. I know you the queen you run and ship. I asked a couple of people, and they always like, is she gonna do the songs we never see her perform at the residency?

00:38:08
Speaker 1: Wait to say hear what I'm by you and you you know, but you're not gonna be coming for the normal things we got, So do you want to tell a story out that can't get you off my mind. How we had that message first, You and Style y'all was on the record that Brodne did jick shoot. We had the do Doom Doom Doom. We had that first.

00:38:33
Speaker 3: That's a fact.

00:38:33
Speaker 1: We had that first.

00:38:34
Speaker 3: That's a fact.

00:38:35
Speaker 1: And Ronnie just told the story. So I'm gonna tell it again. The record was a monster before we even got it out smashed, they killed it. Everybody was excited and it was the Doom Doom, the message Ronnie's mixing the record or something like that. Before Ronnie he said when he said he was going to mix the record at he said that some people was coming. I don't want to say who it is. I said, don't play it for him. He played it for him. Two weeks later, Jack the whole sample.

00:39:05
Speaker 3: Gn I just told you about the ship off the air.

00:39:09
Speaker 1: That's the game. That's why I don't tell nobody nothing.

00:39:13
Speaker 6: I keep everything to my soulf. So I just told him, one of our best friends on Earth. I never told the ship publicly. I played him a record. Two weeks later, we had an identical twin floating in the air, and I was like Jesus Christ, I couldn't be to this day, it's one of my best friends. I never even had the courage to tell him, Yo, you know you jack my y'allo.

00:39:38
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I play him record. You know this, the game got something hot in a store? A game.

00:39:44
Speaker 1: If you got something hot, don't tell nobody what it is.

00:39:47
Speaker 3: Don't tell him nothing.

00:39:48
Speaker 2: Man.

00:39:49
Speaker 6: That's slightly now. I think cal It taught me that. Like, I'll be next to Calid and he don't tell me nothing. Next day, I looked at TV as a Codgate commercial. I'm like, damn, this motherfucker, don't even let me know where the bag hat or nothing. I'm like, but you gotta protect your blessings. You gotta protect you know where you going, because the people will move on your shit. It was a lot of people got upset that we got the Netflix deal and we didn't tell nobody what we was doing, and so when they saw it, they was like, oh shit, Like yo, y'all could have gave us a heads up. How about nobody feeds us, nobody pay our bills, So we gotta do what we gotta do. We gotta protect our blessings. I understand what you say. You can't play shit and nobody, not even the best. I'm talking about our best friend, almost the most loyalist dude I know in the world.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: He heard my shit. He went back, Yo, look what I did.

00:40:43
Speaker 4: I was like, foul play foul out of all the success you got, all the accolades, this that, this, as he said, I stole this, this, that, this.

00:40:54
Speaker 3: You gotta have the.

00:40:56
Speaker 4: Most in history of your music. Play then the house while the house is getting clean. I'll put you against any other artists.

00:41:07
Speaker 3: On the planet.

00:41:11
Speaker 4: You want to get a good house clean, they play you more than a door will surprise.

00:41:17
Speaker 6: Oh yo, My aunt and moms would play that ship to the ship. The ship was like the ship was melting again. Bro, we live on the fifth lap. We're in front of the building playing. We hit them for ten hours straits. I will survive. Oh no, no, no, I don't even know what the ship mean. I'm a little kid. I don't even know what the fuck they singing about.

00:41:45
Speaker 1: And that candy stating, oh I'm a My mother played the hell out of record, and I didn't know why until I got older. I mean, the lyrics is well for women, so I guess that would be the equivalent to I will survive and now my music is I Will Survive. It's the same thing, you know, same women empowerment.

00:42:07
Speaker 6: So I want you to tell me about getting on jay Z's first album. Did you know he was going to be the guy or did you know? How did that come about it? And I heard you say it before, but I wanted for the audience because there's a hip hop Yeah.

00:42:21
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was going to be what he was, but but I knew my girl. So my girlfriend Michelle, who's still my girl to this day, we bought for Friends with Dame Dash. I knew Dame since Slovan and Michelle was like, oh you know Dame. That was like yeah, this was like on the start and jay Z's about to do a record and they want you on. I was onto my Life album and I was like bet So I showed up to the studio. They gave me the money in the brown bag, like a brown faith for bag.

00:42:55
Speaker 6: I still have some Yalla residue on a.

00:43:00
Speaker 3: Not y'all on there.

00:43:01
Speaker 1: We didn't mind going. I didn't mind doing business like that. Back then. I was like whatever it was. I was still actually mentally in slow Bomb, you know. So I took the money when in the studio was there, did the verse and that was it. It wasn't no big deal. It was just.

00:43:19
Speaker 3: Year with hip hop history.

00:43:22
Speaker 1: You see how it happened. You know it was on some street ships.

00:43:26
Speaker 11: But here was a drug deal with no drugs, legal, drug money legal judge.

00:43:38
Speaker 6: You know it's impossible, right to figure it out. But with all the records, I think your biggest is family.

00:43:45
Speaker 3: Affair with doctor Drake. That was who with whoever? That like? Who else is on it?

00:43:56
Speaker 6: Hold up as mayors and Dommy would say, Chasen Sevester Stallone, the.

00:44:05
Speaker 3: Motherfucker gave you a boy sixty two names. He's been picking up my call with a call for him.

00:44:12
Speaker 6: That family affair, you hear the beat. I mean y'all had a ball. I see that, Yola, Tanya, you all in that fucking video.

00:44:20
Speaker 10: Hut.

00:44:20
Speaker 3: He was a film.

00:44:22
Speaker 6: He was a family affair, family affair, I get it. What was that like when they played you that doctor j is still the guy. I'm I never worked with it. I'm trying to get something to crumber, save a little piece for later.

00:44:35
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you the story. And Don Pool had a lot to do with this because Don Poul was my an R at.

00:44:40
Speaker 3: The time, shut out.

00:44:44
Speaker 1: One of those in Miami, and so Don Poole Dom poo bought me the actual track. Now I'm a hardcore hip hop head. All I'm doing is singing over hip hop loops and he brings me didn't understand it. So Don Pruh was like, oh man, and then he goes and he gets to the studio with my brother and then he's like, you're married. I think you needed to come down to the studio and you know, rethink this. So I had to snap out of you know, records crackling and singing over hip hop moves for a second to try something new. I said, let me go and see what this is about. So we get in the studio, we started writing the song. My brother had already wrote some of the song and so I recorded it. Once I recorded this song, I was like, oh, okay, we might have something. So I sent it to Dre. Once we finished it, right, I said it to Dre. Dre was like, no, I need something. I need something. He was like it needs a bridge, and I was like, it don't need a fucking bridge. And I was going crazy, acting like the savage that I was, and he was like, if you don't do a bridge, I'm take my name off it. I said, okay, I went in. So I Wan wrote the bridge killed the bridge sent it.

00:46:06
Speaker 3: He was a bridge Againe.

00:46:08
Speaker 1: We don't need no hater us. We're just trying to love one another. Yeah, all of that that was me.

00:46:21
Speaker 3: I got the words.

00:46:23
Speaker 4: Like like it very much, start on the plate and the rest is history.

00:46:29
Speaker 1: The song was so big. I was on tour and we had this bus drop. It was this big white and you know, like bluegrass country music listening and he would keep the station on the blue grass station. And I came up and I came up there to talk to him one day and Family Affair was on. I was like, Yo, what station is that. He was like, that's my station, he's my song. I said, what my song?

00:46:51
Speaker 3: You like that's me.

00:46:52
Speaker 1: That's when I realized. I said, oh my god, I'm I'm I'm a huge star. That's when I remember and.

00:46:58
Speaker 4: The bad part of me being on the show, me being on is a blessing and beautiful.

00:47:02
Speaker 5: Now when they come to going on, they do a show, when.

00:47:05
Speaker 3: They called me, it's the last song.

00:47:10
Speaker 4: You know that.

00:47:12
Speaker 3: Shanty do that ship to me all the time. A shanty do that ship to me all the time? Be like song eighteen, yuests bro song eighteen. This is the last. She got three phases of souls. I got the last fame, last one at the last, the fine prick.

00:47:31
Speaker 1: Everybody's wasted at that point.

00:47:33
Speaker 6: That I throw a fly for that one because you've been doing Jadekins thirty with the last song.

00:47:40
Speaker 1: Ain't flying now? Fab fabins on it too?

00:47:45
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:47:46
Speaker 1: On the rabbits on Family, if on the remake on it?

00:47:49
Speaker 6: Wow?

00:47:51
Speaker 3: You like working a lot with fab Like what's that?

00:47:54
Speaker 6: We already noticed Yanks top five didd or a lot, but you you know what it is, chemist street.

00:47:59
Speaker 1: Babist, great chemistry, but he's also a good person and a really good friendly. I deal with people I go where I'm celebrating. You know, I have Fabiney stay less queen. You know, just pay for the ground. Gotta give me nothing else. You know I'm coming cheers, I'm doing founding nothing. This is my family, and I only really deal with Jada Kiss and Fabulous when it comes because they really support me. I hate to go begging biggest for your can I get it.

00:48:27
Speaker 5: I'm not begging from the verse on my phone, turn red, that's maybe gotta come.

00:48:33
Speaker 6: You ever heard her talk like a guy? You ever called her from a number she don't know, she'd be like, yo's un, she's the greatest ever made.

00:48:41
Speaker 3: I'm telling you the truth. Don't fly? What the why would I call her from a number that she don't know?

00:48:47
Speaker 2: So?

00:48:47
Speaker 1: What for? Two?

00:48:48
Speaker 3: What color Franks?

00:48:49
Speaker 5: You're doing?

00:48:50
Speaker 4: Over?

00:48:50
Speaker 1: Man?

00:48:50
Speaker 3: On your Mary J Blige? And I'm like, Yo, what's up? Sis here? What's up? What's going on?

00:48:55
Speaker 1: Now?

00:48:55
Speaker 3: Who you're talking to this shu? And be like, yo, it's Joe Crank? Oh y'all's you was up? Best? All right?

00:49:03
Speaker 6: Let's just say I call you right now? Number right now? Block number yourself?

00:49:08
Speaker 3: Sins? What's going on? Yo? What's going on? Before I say my name? How would you answer the phone? What's up? Jump that ship? Crazy? You got me thinking you changed the number? Like yeah, Joe Crack? What yo? Yo? What's up?

00:49:30
Speaker 1: I had to find him? Look after I got that what, I had to find another voice because people was calling me from all different cottage and wasn't who they was, So I had to find another.

00:49:41
Speaker 3: Screen.

00:49:45
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something, man, You know we over at divorce and all that because your new man is well not man.

00:49:53
Speaker 3: Is he a mystery man? Still?

00:49:57
Speaker 1: Is he a mystery man to you?

00:49:59
Speaker 3: Not to no?

00:50:00
Speaker 1: No, yes, yes, And I.

00:50:03
Speaker 6: Was dancing by shot up so the motherfucker looked like Joe.

00:50:08
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm saying. I said, yo, Joe, let me explain something to you. To the world, he's a mystery man. But to my family and for instance, not so we're not doing that.

00:50:20
Speaker 3: Because makes some noise for that. Protect your feet, protect your feet.

00:50:28
Speaker 2: You know.

00:50:28
Speaker 6: With me, they try to give me so many bags to be on TV with my family, and I always said no because I know I wouldn't have a relationship after a TV show because everybody be in your business. They got something to say, ship that's probably normal that to you or to my wife would be They be like, oh, he ain't ship because suit you know, I don't know about you. But as soon as I locked that door, close that door, I say some slick ship on the way out, like you know words, All right, man, you're no pro closed the door. They cut that ship on camera. My head'll be on a fucking pike on one of them. Game of Joe checked us out today, true King in the North, Joey Snow, what ship on?

00:51:16
Speaker 3: I'm the true King of Joey, King of the Off Snow came in that cocaine ship. You ain't doing that. That ain't that.

00:51:27
Speaker 1: This ain't this you Ni Joey asked you a question, Yes, where did you meet me for the first time?

00:51:35
Speaker 3: I don't know, I know, I can I tell you?

00:51:38
Speaker 6: Well, I know I was stabbing somebody. The last person who asked me did she was like, yeah, you saw you stabbing the guy when I was like, oh my.

00:51:46
Speaker 1: God, want me to tell you.

00:51:48
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:51:49
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was your first movie, but it was Prison Songs my first movie, and you came to me. You like, Joe, fuck somebody up over you. You was going off and I was like, yeah, fat Joe loves me. He's gonna protect me. And that was the first time I ever met you.

00:52:04
Speaker 3: And you was still so they ain't beat me, beautiful person. I was supposed to be the kid you had a fight with a Q tip or what I was supposed to be in prison? Yeah, we had a ball. If he was in the Bronx too, we shun that. Somebody always makes it back to the problem.

00:52:26
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to say it was just the Bronx, But it was the Bronx, you know what I'm saying. But that was a fun time for me. I finally got my cheekbone in the movie like I had been on like t three movies before that. I don't I don't know what it was that like, And they got no pause. You know, I never had a real role. That was the first time I had like a real roll.

00:52:49
Speaker 3: It's fine. I see that ship to this day. I spoke to Q Tip yesterday, so with the god shout out, Q Tip, you.

00:52:56
Speaker 5: Need you all here.

00:52:57
Speaker 3: Oh no, he's gonna come.

00:52:59
Speaker 1: He's in the friend specially yeah U TIFF's family. And the movie was I carried the whole movie. I played the mother and that was this shit was horrible, Like when I look back.

00:53:14
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I don't never want to see this again. No, that's that was some real ghetto ship.

00:53:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, no budget, Yo, sist this residency. We're flying out the Vegas.

00:53:28
Speaker 3: I love you.

00:53:28
Speaker 6: It was on Sherry you said, she said any guests, You said, the whole New York coming with facts.

00:53:35
Speaker 1: But the whole New York is coming.

00:53:37
Speaker 6: It seems like, listen, they gotta bottom tickets if you gotta stay seventeen in the hotel room seventeen, people, go do it.

00:53:44
Speaker 3: Whatever you gotta do. Y'all gotta go out there, get your tickets. You gotta gotta go out there, get your tickets. Twenty fifth anniversary.

00:53:53
Speaker 6: Correct, that's no more drama, No more drama, no more drama, fifth anniversary.

00:54:00
Speaker 3: Just listen.

00:54:02
Speaker 6: Yet, we happy for everybody. But sometimes I see some rappers I started with, they missing teeth.

00:54:09
Speaker 3: You know. One day they snuck me in in the old school at noon? Yeah, yo, what hap go through that tea colleagues?

00:54:17
Speaker 6: Man? One day they paid me the bag and I don't know how they afforded me at an old school at noon, and they threw the real bag, right, So I full up in there and I'm looking at other legends. They dancing around Hennessy bottles, no teeth. This, I'm like, I closed the door, Like, what the fuck? They caught me in one of these old school at noon.

00:54:37
Speaker 3: I'm opening the door. These are legends too, like this about them? What year you started?

00:54:45
Speaker 1: No?

00:54:45
Speaker 6: No, they legends, Well, what year you started? Your first record came out?

00:54:50
Speaker 1: When my first first record came out, I was still in slow Mom and I was the FATHERM see, I'll do for you. Fact I wasn't signing.

00:54:58
Speaker 3: We felt we felt like we made it off that.

00:55:04
Speaker 1: I'll still run around at both it and cottage and slow in school.

00:55:08
Speaker 3: Yeall was still deep still, man.

00:55:11
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something in them Uptown records, right because today, you know, I was getting the massage shout out some more my therapists, and you know I play that on b shit in the back and they play some I'll be sure shit.

00:55:22
Speaker 3: That I never heard.

00:55:24
Speaker 6: It was on YouTube and the shit came on and I was like, yo, that's I'll be sure and I look up, sure enough it was him. Like at that time, the d Uptown Records is shoot Father MC heavy D and the boys, Chod C, Christopher Williams. It just us, how crazy was that? Because we look at the Jungle Brothers and we think about Daylight, Soul, Latti Faremony Left.

00:55:54
Speaker 3: Like that right there.

00:55:55
Speaker 6: If y'all did a show together like on TV, that would be like the Motown twenty. I don't think nobody's fucking with that.

00:56:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about Daylight, so sorry. I forgot to mention them too. Like back in the days that at least grew upon them. So yeah, the fuddy buddy was a big deal. But yeah, I gotta be crazy.

00:56:17
Speaker 11: Listen, just we want to keep you for fifty hours. But they say, I know you gotta promote residency, my license. See I have said the other part of my life, my life story, my life, my life.

00:56:28
Speaker 3: Story worked first person. Get your tickets. Don't call me, definitely, don't call LT.

00:56:35
Speaker 1: Don't call it.

00:56:36
Speaker 3: Get your tickets. This ain't that. That ain't this racking kiss. She makes some noise to MJ.

00:56:45
Speaker 1: Thank y'all than having me. Thank you, I love you, love you, love oth y'all.