Becca & Tayshia Break Down Night One with Comedian Heather McDonald

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, and I'm so freaking pumped for this episode because we are not only talking about the premiere that we just saw of Katie and all that she is of the incredible Bachelorette last night, but we obviously have to give you guys the most exclusive inside scoop. And as I mentioned last week, Catherine is no longer co hosting with me, but have no fear because we have none other than one of the eyes the ears. We have my dear friend Tasha back with Bachelor Happy Hour, and she is actually not just going to be here for one week. I needed her throughout the entire season to recap because again, who better than somebody that was there at where were you guys? We were in New Mexico, That was in New Mexico herself. So if all these clues didn't give it away, we have Taisha joining us for this full season and I cannot because Stasha, I love you and I know you are going to give us such good behind the scene, So welcome back. I am so freaking excited for this, Like I'm ready to just like go balls the walls with inside scoop information, whatever I can do to you, like, give you, guys, I don't know, a little peak behind the curtain if you will. I mean, obviously everyone knows you because you were just the most recent bachelor prior to Katie. But we I just like, this is going to be so fun because we've never been able to have somebody who has been there for an entire season co hosting a podcast, right, And I can't wait because like, you were there, you were her mentor, you were her confident on, her friend, a shoulder to cry on, all the things, and you probably saw so much go down. But for any season, there are also things that you don't always see that as you watch it back with us viewers, you're starting to pick up on and hear and see, which I think is really exciting. So I can't wait because, yeah, this episode, I even learn things about that what happened behind the scenes that I didn't even know, you know what I mean, because I couldn't hear some of the things that the guys were saying. I was really focused on Katie. But I will say, it's kind of hard giving you guys an inside scoop for the first night, just because I kind of want to, you know, I can't give away too much of the matter. You want to give it a little taste test, but not like okay, but I'm talking like each episode I'll be able to give you guys a little bit more. Yeah, well I can't. I can't wait because I mean it has to be because, like I said, you were the most recent bachelotte prior to Katie, and so it has to be like kind of this weird feeling for you where you probably feel so much of the emotion and the feeling that she was going through, but also like with so much less stressed because you're like, I'm good, I found love. I feel for her, but like I'm not. I'm now not the lead. So the pressure's off a little bit. And so yeah, how to go home after? Which was nice? Kay, babe, Go take off your makeup, go take under shoes. You're doing it again in like three hours. Yeah, I'm gonna get that a little bit o for us. But I was heavily invested. And when she was crying, I started crying, Like when she was her I was pissed off for her, you know what I mean, Like there's you just get really invested. Yeah, because I'm hoping here I'm holding your hand to this whole thing. Yeah, and who better because you and Caitlin both understand exactly what she's going through and you become friends. So it's probably like you have this not a MoMA bear mentality but like that like don't mess with my friend's mentality and like nothing but the best for my baby yet a true sister. It's kind of crazy, like, you know, we want to be those girls that you basically pick up the phone call and you say every tidbit of information that happened from the day or at the moment he picked you up to the second he dropped you back off at the house. You know what I mean. We just want to be those girls for her, and we were and honey, I'm telling you it is a windy road, but it's gonna get good. Well, it looked like you guys have a windy road driving in you and Caitlyn. I love the old convertible throwback with the bandanas in the kerchiefs in the hair. You pick them up, you drop them off like that was such a TV moment. I was like, fucky, guess, oh my god, well you did, you did? And one thing overall that I want to say is I love Premier Nights, but there was just something so different and I think no one knew what to expect without Chris Harrison. This is something we've never ever seen before, and so I absolutely loved having you and Caitlin there. Like for me as a viewer, as a past batchelor that kind of knows what's about to transpire and what Katie's feeling. I absolutely loved having this girl gang. I thought it was incredible. I think it's just what she needs. I cannot wait to see you two with her this entire season. Like I know people always sometimes it's difficult to handle Chaine to embrace it and accept it, but like I freaking love it. And I'm not just saying this because this is a Bachelor podcast. Like I read what people say. They think that we have to be like all buttoned up and get you know, form our own thoughts and opinions, but like this is me being me as like a woman who loves women empowerment. I think this was such a good idea for the show this season, and so I cannot wait. I'm gonna say that like seventeen more times, but I cannot wait. Thank you. It was It's been such an amazing opportunity, and I still pinched myself that I was even a part of it. Again, Clay wish I had a mentor when I was a bachelorette. I mean, I think we all do you know yea, So it was I will say, though we also had no idea what we were doing, Caitlin and I, so it just kind of like go easy on us because we're trying to figure it out too. But I think it's the moments where you're kind of all like, ah, what are we doing. We're just here for you, We're gonna see like you know, oh, we don't know, but you at least had each other to Lena, which I think is so special and so important for most viewers, but especially women to see in this day and age. And speaking of incredible women, I can't wait for this episode because there's so much that we have to talk about and we need to just get right into it. And this is a special treat for not only you guys, but for us as well. But we have the incredible comedian podcast host, she's a writer. We have HEATHERN McDonald here with us today to give all of her thoughts and opinions on the first night because she has been a Bachelor Boucherette fans since the beginning, So we're going to talk it all through with her today and she also has a special message for us, so everyone please welcome Heather McDonald. Heather, how long have you been a fan of the show since the first season? Now? I watched it. It was my first house. I was just recently married, and I was just like right off the bat, just so tragued by the whole concept. And what was his name, Alex Fischelle, so you know, uh, and then how the two girls and how he picked the really young one. You guys are all too young to probably even know the first season, but it is. And then just recently they put like an old season on the season with the young the single dad and the girl that he picked. The second time when they just put like an old season on like Hulu, and it was so weird to see like skinny brows and no one wearing fake eyelashes and thin lips and uh, you know, sky tops and unflattering jeans like that is high death and like everyone's just better looking now all around. But the guys were still hot, but the girls have improved. Yeah, but it's kind of fun to look back and watch it, you know, and and be like, oh my god, you know, and there was this one girl. Then there was also a single mom. I like went and looked up to see like did she ever get married? Because she's really a Jason and she had like a really strong accent, and uh so, yeah, I think that they what's fun about the Bachelors. They are really fun. They you know, to hold up like it's I wish they'd put them all out, you know, to kind of see what it was like like ten years ago, you know, because it's been on for so long. But yeah, I've always enjoyed it, and even years where I'm like I'm John, Like Monday comes around and I'm like, okay, right one, all friends over what was through? I mean, there's been obviously so many seasons. We've had what twenty i think six Bachelor seasons and now what is the seventeen? Is Katie the seventeenth Bachelor? Well she's seventeenth, but like I'm really the seventeenth, but you know what, Okay, yeah, you know how it's the most fun to watch with our by teenage sons now because really and you're getting oh my god, Like watch it with guys because they're like what, like what he's so creepy? What's he doing? What? She just met it? Why is he saying it? Like? It's really fun to like see their reaction. And because they aren't expert watchers of it, so it's like a new show for them, it's very fun. So I say, get your boyfriends and stuff involved because they love especially the Bachelorette. They guys will much more enjoy watching the Bachelorette in my opinion, because they're like ripping on the guys and they're also kind of learning, right yeah, versus all the interesting god yeah. And then I yeah, it's so funny meeting men now because not like met for myself, but just like men in general who are fans of the show because they always blame it on their girlfriends or why wis but then they get hooked. It's like they and they'll watch it without their wives or their sisters or their girlfriends whatever. It is like they actually I I met so many diehard fans that try to play it off like you know, I only watch it because of the girl in my life. It's like, hmm, now you hooked and then you start to you start to like love certain people and you want to see them in the future and see how they are on Paradise or Winter Games, like whatever it might be. It's just like this ongoing circle that you're like, but what about them and are they going to come back or are they going to find love? We want to root for someone, So it just it's I always say this, it's I mean, it's the longest, one of the longest running shows for a reason, because like, people love drama, people love love. But it's just like everyone just like cycles through and you find the people that you love and that you hate and that you want to attached to them. It brings people together. Yeah, all right, Heather, we are so excited to have you on. I need a first start by saying that I have been a fan for a while now, so thank you for joining us. I'm Bachelor Happy Hour today. How are you. I'm good, it's great to be here. Thanks for having me. We can't wait to get all of your thoughts on what we saw during the premiere and the upcoming episode. But in the meantime, there's so much to recap and I feel like week one premiere night is always one of my personal favorites because you're not only meeting so many people and there's so much to take in, but it's just like lively and exciting. So that's why we wanted to bring you on at the top to recap all of this, because you know, I'm sure all of us girls have many thoughts on these men, and Tasha, you were obviously there, so I want you to actually take this at the top, give us your like overall feels of Night one with Katie. Absolutely, but also it's gonna be really exciting to hear your guys's take as you just watched the episode, because I was there and I saw a lot more, so it's gonna be really funny get your guys input. Also how that makes the funniest comments about all these dudes, And like, I just cannot wait to get started. This is gonna be good. Yes, One thing I wanted to start off by saying is I loved you and Caitlin being there. I loved that you guys were peeking through the window the entire time, like you could go out and check on her and get your own take on the men. But it's just such a different vibe when you have just like this badass girl game that I loved. So yeah, obviously it starts off by you and Caitlin rolling up in a convertible riding through the desert, and I love the fact that you guys get out of the car and it's like you weren't even wind blown, like you were just ready to go in your dresses. You looked stunning. What was that like then, you know, knowing that you were going to surprise Katie and be able to be her confident and mentor because she had no idea you were coming. Yeah. Well, first of all, I wish there were boopers for that, because Caitlin and I actually got stuck in the middle of the desert. We hit like a pothole and like the car wouldn't turned back on because it was stick shift and it was driving. Who was driving a Caitlin if we if I was driving, we wouldn't have made it. Okay, she was definitely driving, and it was just so fun. I mean, her and I were both pretty nervous, just because it's his new territory for us too, but like we've been in her shoes, but we haven't been in the position that we were in, but we could not wait to get there and just help her out. We were freaking out. In fact, that almost think we both paid our pants like walking up to her because we were trying to be so quiet because she had no idea that we were there, and it was just so fun surprising her and being able to just like really hold her hand to this entire journey. Well, we could actually relate like firsthand that we've been literally standing there waiting for limos to drive up, talking to these guys, experiencing those first impressions, and it's a lot for one person to handle, let alone not really have like a sounding board to kind of like just bounce off any in every thought that you have. So it was really freaking fun. And I'm not gonna lie, some of those guys were crazy coming out of the limo. You didn't see half of it, but it was amazing. Let's talk about the limo arrivals because there wasn't anything like super super wild. There was some you know, costume, some gimmicks, but for the most part, it was like fairly straightforward and tame. Um. So let's go through because I don't want to cover all thirty men because as you said, like it was so fast, we didn't see a lot of them. So for both Heather and Tisha, what was your favorite limo arrival? Would you say, Heather, I have to hear yours because I know it's gonna be good. Um, well, I think and I forgot his name? Is it Thomas? It's the tall guy because I'm tall, so I'm attracted to tall people. He's tall, he's got dark care do you know what I'm talking about? The bow type, the first guy out of the first Yeah, I thought he was just like good looking, but not crazy good looking, like not model too much of a model like. He was still a relatable looking right, and he has really good eye contact. Edie's pretty charming. So for me, that was probably the one that I would have given my roast. Do you usually like it to be short and simple and sweet like how his was, like he didn't have any gimmicks coming out? Or do you like the craziness like the guy at the RV or the guy with the truck. I'm not into that, but I do think it adds to the show that you know, hey, guys willing to go do some different first impression thing. Fine, but I think just like a good looking guy in a cute suit and kind of see if that moment there. You sometimes really can see if there's initial chemistry as a viewer, like you can see it through the TV. So I kind of just like the straight forwardness of just but like the guy that brought the watch that started to say this was right, I was immediately thinking like, oh my god, like seriously the first night, like if this really means anything, that's gonna be so awkward when you ask for it back. And then he was like, no, I'm not a creep bug out at the airport. So I thought that was pretty It was really good. That was like actually funny. Yeah, be good. Yeah, okaysha, what was your favorite? Obviously you were there, so you saw it in real life. So looking back and now seeing how the night went, did you get it? Like was it different when you were actually there versus watching it back on TV? Well? Yeah, because we couldn't hear what any of the guys were saying. We were just watching the reactions and like she would look back and give us like a thumbs up or down or like make these movements and gestures. Oh, I saw the air hump for one of the men. We were freaking out because it's so funny because there was other guys in the limo and they were watching her do that. She didn't even realize. I love her though. She's just like Bolts of the Walls. She is who she hasn't owned it, and I love it. Yeah. So it was very different watching it back because we finally got to hear what the guys were saying, and we're like, oh, okay, that makes sense because she was sitting by some of them. But I mean, I think she loved the gimmicks, like she loved the guy with the truck, and the guy with the cat suit was someone obviously she was so into the catman. Mit, you guys, I she was smitten. She was she was just making she's so excited about it. I mean, would you guys fall for a guy with the katsu. I don't know, personally I would. I'm such a costume person though, I'm like, I feel like I'm kind of like weird in that way like Katie though, like I like something kind of awkward because like, yeah, um, that would have turned me off so much. Same. But I mean, I'm glad she kept him and liked him. But like for me, I would have been like yeah with him and and the full whiskers on the face, I would have been like, come on, dude, it was a lot. I asked, charming, and his personality does come through, you know, and I thought it was interesting. No, wait, I have a question, So you asked? You know why? She truly surprised. So she really did not know that you guys were the host, because I feel like, no, she had no idea, Like, so what we think was going to be the host? She thought she was just gonna do it on her own. She didn't think she's going to have a host. No. I think she just thought they had just told her that they like she was just gonna they were to help her navigate through it, like all, so she had no idea. I don't know how she would have Like if I was her and said yes to being in this role without a host or like a confidante somebody to mentor and guide me, I'd be like, I don't think I can do. I gotta sit this one out, guys, And I just love the fact that you guys stuck up behind. And she was so genuinely shocked that I thought it was just so relatable but like so endearing with her reaction and you guys being like, no, we got this, Like let's go actually sit down and have this like chat that we always see it at the beginning. Yeah, I thought it was great that she asked you what do you wish? What's your biggest champer? And when goes don't just miss anybody the first night, I was like, well, you're gonna have to do because you only have a certain number of retroposes. Yeah, you have to dismiss five of them, right, But I knew I understood what she meant, being like, you know, your first impression are the one that you think is going to be the one that's really going to be your dude, don't necessarily, you know, be so fixated on one person. Yeah, Like maybe Claire was maybe don't do that, like like realize that you like, someone really may pop up later on and so and you could attest to that. So I thought that was kind of that. I was like, that's cool. It's true though, like it I mean, or creatures of habit at times, you know what what I mean, especially like when we see a guy like, oh, he's definitely hot and he probably looks like the five other guys that we have dated in the past, So I think what she was just saying also too, it's like there were some people that she kind of had her eyes on immediately, and we're just like, just wait, there's some other guys like you. There's even a guy in a damn box. You haven't even seen him yet, so just wait for a second. Which I love the box by the way, Oh my gosh, yes you have some production inside, and like the plan of how long to sit in the box? And why had hot? Did he have a bottle of water? They were feeding him drinks through like a little like a little hole, and they freed him like little or derbs and stuff like that, and he was in it all night like we even we were confused, like is he gonna come out? Like what's happening here? How is she going to give him a row? Like he's sad in that thing all night long. I will say he was dedicated to the box. And I loved the commitment, not only you know, like having him being rolled out and introducing himself in a way to her, but I loved how they would do like his interviews where he's still just sitting in the box, like, I'll throughout the night, I'm like this guy, like, I actually really really enjoyed the box. And I will say I think that's a good way because so often people solely go off of looks, and so I kind of liked that she had to talk to him and get to know him a little bit better before he's like, oh, I'm surprised it's James in the giant box. I like the box Esthetically, he is probably one of the top three or four best looking guys of like, you know, traditional great looks. He's tall, he's super muscular, right, the eyebrows are you know, but but you know, so I think that, yeah, like if you're going to unbox something like everyone does on Instagram, you onn box the best looking thing, right. It was. Yeah, it was worth it. And the guys when he walked out, they're like, oh shit, this is the guy's box. They're like, oh, we're screwed. They knew he was handsome, which which I kind of liked because you know, you can't get too comfortable in this. Did anyone make the joke of dick in a box? Like I just thought of that, I'm sure. Okay, So we talked about your favorite arrivals, who's arrival if they were to do what they did in front of both of you, who would you send home right away? Who would not get that first impression? Rose? I mean definitely the RV. And I don't know if oh, they set it up that it was really his RV, but I'm like really not into RV's at all, especially old ones, and you know, and then the fact that he was like eating and stuffy. I don't know that would have done it for me. Lim entrances, you know, kind of baseline nothing like two Wild Crazy obviously. I think this entire premiere actually has been one of the most team I've ever watched, Like there really wasn't any drama whatsoever except for except that weird a conversation with Cody and Aaron. Yeah, I was. I was that. It was like Aaron was saying that he had an issue with Cody, and Cody's like okay. He's like, yeah, I'm just I'd never liked you. I'm not gonna ever like you, and then he's like okay, and then they just walked back into the cocktail party and everyone's like, why attention so high, Like why you're so pissed? Do they so they maybe know each other from before they had to up, Because there's unless something happened at the cocktail party that we didn't get to see, which I don't, but there's something there which is very interesting to me because I didn't even get to see that. I was just like, is this guy just trying to make a name for himself? Is this aeron guy just like, you know, trying to be outspoken and like have the cameras follow him? Nay? One, I don't know it was. I think overall though she had it seems from my end as a viewer, like she had some really great connections, like very very strong connections night one, like she had some good seemy makeout sessions. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Like it wasn't that was in tame her makeout sessions with some of those guys, made out with the cat, and she made out with the guy she gave the rose too, who you know, I did think was cute. She did say that guy reminded her of her X and who were the other makeouts justin the guy that that painted the rose justin? Yeah, yeah, he's really a great package in my opinion, I agree. I mean honestly though, his artwork was insane, Like he's an insane artist, but doesn't he also have like some other normal job. So it's like the best both worlds. And he's cute. And then the other the other guy who's training to be the firefighter from Canada, he's pretty hot. His hair is so tall. How did these men get so much volume on their hair? Because I saw I think Brendan is it. He's the he's the firefighter. He's hot. But I was like his hair, you guys are Jimmie Neutron hair, and yeah, so who else? Was like really, yeah, it's okay, it's pretty good so far. Wait, I'm trying to think. She was like pretty smitten by a couple of them. What's the cat's name again, Connor Connor Connor. I just loved the fact that she had his black smeard whiskers all over her face. I was like, okay, wait, are you guys into that kiss? Were you not into that kiss? Please tell me? Yeah? I thought all the kisses were hot, well that one the cat went at first. I was like, oh, this is cute. And then they went in for a second time, and I was like, oh, this is this is steamy, this is see me like there was one though, I mean it actually might have been justin where at first I was like, this is a little bit awkward because she kind of like pulled away and then turned around, and I'm like, is she into it or is she not? Or not? Yeah, Like I don't maybe it was the first Maybe that was her first kiss and she just like had to, you know, warm up a little bit. I don't know how many guys did she kiss that night, do you know? Was it just so true? I actually don't remember the exact number. But she went in for it, which is good, and I encouraged that. Heather, how do you feel if you were about shurette? Are you about kissing on the first date or not or on the first night? Yeah? I think why not? Because I definitely think if it's not a good kiss, it's very hard to get back on track, or someone doesn't taste right, or if it's just awkward, I still would give them a second chance, because you can. But if you do have a first really great kiss with someone, that's pretty awesome, the best bachelor, hottest kiss, and I can see it in my head and they are still together. As to this day in the history of the Bachelor is Joe, Joe and George Jordan. Yes, when he came around the corner and that he was coming around the corner and he shoved her up against the wall, I was like, there's nothing honest, Oh yeah, there's nothing really good A good bachelor, bachelorette wall kiss. They're always they're always good always. Yeah, it was really good. Um, okay, So I want to talk about Greg, right, he was the first impression Rose Greg quickly because obviously we saw them chat a little bit. I found him so sweet, he was so nervous, so nervous well when but I loved how he brought something from home and like made a joke about, you know, my niece makes this jewelry and it might be too soon to be giving someone jewelry and a first standing he pulls out this rainbow possa necklace he should Did you see her be that into him? Now? One? Like, did you kind of expect who she was going to be giving that first impression? Rose too, She was definitely like there was something about him that she was intrigued by. And I think it's just like he was really genuine, Like you didn't seem like he was trying to like put up this like crazy front and she appreciated that. And you know, I saw no I was saying, I saw sparks like night one, so but you never know, you know, I just thought of that was like, I don't think i've ever seen in a bachelorette who is when she is talking to the guy who's a single dad and she's like, yeah, I would be open to being a mom, you know, to someone who wear a childhood already here, or if the guy I meet never wants to have kids, I'm fine with that too. And I kind of think that's probably being really honest. But I think it's something we've never seen because it seems like every bachelor bachelorette have talked about how they want to have a family. I see someone that's like, I don't know if I even want one. I don't know, and I wouldn't hold it against my partner if you didn't, But to be honest, that is something you pretty much better be on the same page about. Yeah, that's a really interesting comment. Yeah, I haven't noticed that because, yeah, I think the you know, to add on to that, most people go on to the show obviously the premise of it is to find a partner and get engaged, like so new, Like that shouldn't be new to anyone, but yeah, most people, it's always kind of the same like I want to get engaged, I want to get married, I want to have babies, like very you know, it's kind of always the same same storyline. But that's why I like about Katie. Katie, and even we saw it in her opening toast, she just kind of did what she did and said what she wanted and she's like, I'm not perfect. I don't want you to be perfect. I'm awkward, but I'm never gonna like change who I am or what I feel or what I'm expecting in ajourney, and I don't want you to either, So just like be open about that, right, Yeah. I just I also love that she said, you know, it kind of felt almost like what I get when i'm you know, back in days of like auditioning for things where you auditioned in a big group and they'd be like if your name isn't called, like don't be Heartbrook, like you know, like this isn't the play for you to be in or whatever, but like this isn't the course line, you're supposed to be be part of it. She did kind of say, you know, this is really about marriage and stuff, so like, don't take it to heart. And I notice even when she posted one of her first tweets about the upcoming season, she was like, all of these guys made a lot to me. The first time I've ever seen someone see this because when you go on these reality shows, especially now versus ten years ago. Yeah, power of social media. You can be the most confident person in the world. You can be basically perfect looking, and someone is going to be like, and did you ever notice that one ear is higher than the other? No? I actually never noticed that. Thanks a lot like I didn't, And so it's like she's you know, it was kind of like, hey, if she can keep one super fan from maybe holding back the most cruel thing to write to somebody that doesn't deserve it, I thought that showed her character too. Yeah. I appreciated what she brought to the table. It kind of reminded me overall a little bit of Matt's season, because obviously, when Matt was Bauchor, he had never done the show before, he really had no idea what he was signing. Up for and Katie in a way. I mean, obviously she was on his season, but she didn't make it that far. You know, most people make it to hometowns or beyond, and so you like they go through the journey and they kind of know what to expect more and Katie didn't. So I appreciate that she knew a little bit enough of how to handle this, but was still like, you know, I haven't done this all before, and so I'm just gonna make it my own. And that's really what she's doing. One thing though, that I feel like they really drove home with her that I feel like she said a lot was um because most people are like, yeah, I'm here to find my husband, I'm here to fall in love, but she's like, I'm here to get engaged. I know, like, I know this is going to happen for me. I just don't know who it is yet. Like I felt like they were really driving that home. So now I'm like, is there like is that the case or is there going to be a twist I'm all about like the twists at the edge. Oh my god. Now I'm very intrigued. You guys are so many It's it's interesting how you dissect like the wording because for me, I guess being there, it's just in watching it actually play out, each twist and turn and every single opposite like there was, I'm like, is this really happening right now? So it's really fun like being able to like hear what you guys like, kind of like latch onto what you guys noticed. The last time Katie was on the show was she was on a one on one day, but it was actually a two on one day because right boyfriend Tyler showed up and they had to do the massage and she was so excited to massage Tyler and four Katie's standing there hugging him and like he just hadn't come back from my rock as a prisoner power and seen him so long, and I'm like, what is going on here? And then he's like, hey, Katie, I like it's gonna work out for us. And it's like She's like, obviously, like what my competition was. You couldn't focus on me when you knew you're right, your life was in the other room being touched by I totally forgot that was her last date too. That was last time we saw her when she was so funny four Katie, she should have just been given a boom that day, like, you know, like truly. Uh yeah, that's why I'm glad that we're seeing more of her and actually getting to know her a bit. She was a trooper. Um okay, So overall, yeah, Heather, if you had to pick one of these men to give your first impression rows to, who would it be? Um? I think I'd probably either give it to the Painter guy or the other guy, the Thomas guy for me? Really okay? Yeah, Taia? What about you? If you were Katie and not happily engaged, who would you give that first pressure? Rose? Too? Um? You know, I really found I think Michael A and her had a really good connection. The guy that gave it the watch, Oh that Michael, the one with the sun, Yes, the one that came out. Yes. I loved his engines out of the limo. I thought it was super cute. It made me laugh. I wasn't expecting that. And then their conversation went really well, and I don't know, I just liked them. So can we? I want to talk about two men really quick that we haven't really touched on, because I thought that they were incredible and both of their energy and their vibe was great. First of all, who was who was the ball guy? Was it Trey the bald guy? No ball? The balls in the back of the trus try Okay, his energy was off the wall, Like he's just some buddy that I feel like can kick it get along with anyone. But like, yes, he would have been so fun to have night one on any season just to kind of like kick back relax. But I feel like he just like is lively. I really really liked Trey Um Also Andrew with the fake accent. Okay, wait, did you guys like the accent or not? I like the act, loved it. I thought I loved it. I liked it, But at first I was like, wait if I was like, is he like was I just like drinking too much it and tonic when he first introduced himself, like at the beginning, because then he came in with an accent, Like what did I miss? But yeah vibes, Yeah for sure. But I thought it kind of made sense because I'm like, oh, he's playing in Austria, so maybe he was born in England and then was playing on the Austric you know, Austrian team in Austria team here right, Um, oh my gosh, I feel like I could just talk about all of these men first. It was just such a fun premiere. You didn't who would you give your first impression? Rose? Too? I, Man, that's a great question. I would say I really did like Greg. I will say that I liked that he still seemed humble and down to earth, and I loved that rainbow necklace. But also, uh, the box guy, Yeah, because only because he was committed to that also, like the dude had to sit in a box for probably twelve hours. Like that's dedication, that is commitment. Um, would I think he'd be the one for me? Probably not? But you know, I think there was so much pressure Like when I was Bachelorrette, which was eons ago, I felt like because I came after Caitlin, Jojo and Rachel, who all had given their first impression rows to the men that they were engaged with, So there was such, uh like this pressure like Okay, I have to pick the one, and you know, I ended up doing that with the guy got engaged to. But I think since then that's kind of gone out the window, and I think it's more just you know, whoever you just are attracted to night one or like hit it off with her, think, you know, I could. I think it was the first batchlort that didn't do that? Did Hannah who did? No, she didn't either because she gave it to Luke? Was it Luke? She gave it to? And then she she she have a two first impression rows, though Matt gave his first impression rose to oh a Gael, Yeah, and that's whys usually don't Yeah and I but I actually think it should be who really gave the best first impression, whether that's going to be the first be your life partner, or like really made the best first impression that was a gimmick or a really interesting story that they shared, or right, I mean they were the ones that like you were walking and you almost fell and he the first rows you know? Yeah? I agree. Okay, Wait, so since we're picking our picks right now, like we have all of our first impression roses given out now, I want us to pick the top four, like, who do you think can make it to hometowns? Like I want to see who you guys see going far at this point. So Heather and Becca, I need your top four because I know a little bit too much, so I'm not really gonna say I know your guys is okay, the guy got the first impression Rose okay, yeah, cat the guy dresses a cat yep, okay. Um. There is this other guy that wasn't featured that much in the beginning, but I think he'll go far. He's our first, uh, one of our first carrot tops. He's a little h Garrett, He's a little prince harsh Garrett were going out. And then I think the painter, yeah, Justin, Justin right um wasn't a good pick. Okay, I agree with some of those, So I will first sure say Greg the first impression Rosman okay, Connor the catman Um. Then I would say, oh man, I'm to you. I'm gonna say Andrew with the accent, okay, the mister Austrian football player. And then I would also agree on Justin the painter wow, okay. Yeah. And three three of those men she had very seemi makeout sessions with night ones. Yeah. I mean, I think those are some good choices. I can't really give any more comments about that to those are some good ones. Wait, one thing we have to touch on because it is Katie and on Matt season and this season so far, I mean from night one, she's just always been so sex positive and that's just like that's something that the men have talked about, Like she's very upfront about her sexuality and intimacy, and she has said how important it is in a relationship. So how do we feel about the man that's a virgin because it's because he hasn't told her yet, so obviously she's unaware. But I'm very interested to see how that's going to play out. I don't think she would. I don't think she would let that be a deal breaker as long as they can kind of have conversations around it. I wonder if when someone's that sex positive and that comfortable with sexuality, she might be like, yeah, let me show you my way for it, Like I'm always going to be the best sex you ever had. Two Yeah, like let me. But the one thing that she said that I thought was kind of funny. It's another one of those things that caught up is when she was talking to you guys, yes, and she's like, she goes, I'm very you know, sex, I need to be able to talk about sex, and if someone isn't, that's just not going to work for myself or my family. My family really talks about sex. That's what I thought. I was like, wait, what kind of family are we getting into here? No, she made that very well known on Night One, like their family is very open about talking about anything and everything, and so I was like, well, yeah, if they're gonna be awkward, then it's not just gonna be awkward with you. It's gonna be they can't go to family party y'all. So she needs a strong one coming out of the gates. OK. I think with the guy who's a virgin, I think there's one thing to be a virgin, and then there's one to be like, you know, reading the Bible on your off time, which I think is a beautiful thing. But I think that is something that's very hard to make a relationship work unless you're both really in the same thing today. Yeah. Yeah, And I don't know her religion. We haven't heard about that yet, But that would be something when you have all these other choices. I don't I would doubt that. My prediction is that relationship doesn't go very far. I mean it's about compatibility too, Like you do want you know, the marriages that actually do work are when you have you know, some similar not necessary are like similar backgrounds, like you know, ethnically or whatever, but just like how you see your future, how you right, how you are morally, how you know values, how your point of view on the world is, you know, preach how they preach, So you don't want to be like figuring that out down the red but also like fighting about those like main core values. It's not you don't want to be me basically, is what we're saying. No, no, I will own it. I get it, but I understand. I so agree because I was in a relationship like that. So yeah, it's like you have to like fundamentally with your morals, your values, how you want to potentially raise children, like all those things. Unfortunately in this world you should sort of have those conversations and be on the same page, you know about some of these tough or big subjects that really do divide. Yes, yes, yeah, because it's it's big to you, and to be honest with you, it might seem seemed it might seem really silly to a lot of people, but it's something that you want to like stand by it, and it's not silly to talk about I'm sorry, but it's just not But honestly, how you are more than the average viewer this time around, Okay, and that's because you're actually there on the show and you're gonna be hosting a date this week. I was so excited when this opportunity came up. I was just thrilled. But yes, I facilitated date and I can't say too much, but the guys have to give like a presentation to Katie, and you guys are there and it was really so fun and that's where I got to so I got to personally meet I think maybe ten of the guys and and it was amazing, like how they kind of like charmed me even once you got to talk to them and sit next to them in that eye contact and see what they were trying to do. I some really shine, some already showed some red flag creepyness. Ye. So um yeah, I was. I'm I'm really excited to see it, and I'm really excited to see where the season goes. Having actually talked to some of these guys and he's talk about it later, you know what struck me as a really appealing about them and like they're some of them being so earnest, and some of them just being like naturally talented, and some of them that I really had to help come up with something. Um and then some of that were like trying to be like overly flirty with me. I'm like, relax, like I'm not the one, okay. I love about the two of you guys being the host is one thing I absolutely love about the Bachelorette is the incredible fashions that they wear, Like, especially with your season, I was like writing that guy, what's his name, Arrie, I'm like, what's that dress? And he's like a woman. I'm like, oh fuck, what's it? You had like some meal and say, oh my god, you heard so many good dresses. Thank you. I mean I was like, that was good on me. That was good. Caitlin has such great styles, so like, I love that we're going to see three killer outfits or more more than that, because you guys have you know, several outfits per season. But I love that we're going to see all your great fashions. Well, thank you fun too. Yeah, it's the I mean, it's one of the best parts about the gig. I mean, for me personally, I love shoes. I love clothes and like getting ready every single day. It's like my favorite thing to do. But also it wasn't my time. It was a Katie's time to shine. So I wore a lot of waters this season. But that being said, I will say, Hatta, would you agree with me that this episode next week's episode is very different than anything that we've seen on The Bachelor. I mean I would hope to say that. I mean I was like, you know, this is this was pretty fun and it was risque, but it was also I had all the humor and it was different. Yeah, it had Yes, So I'm excited. I mean, I know what I feel. Of course, I don't know how I'm saying we're gonna share of me, but um, it was just it was so it was so beyond my expectations of like how fun it was. And I will say what I realized is I was like, wow, this is when you see the Bachelor and the bachelorette stress out and freak out, it is because they're dating and falling in love. Now when I see how it's done, I'm like, yeah, it's it's hard. Yeah, it's not as rehearsed as everybody thinks it might be. But it's hard. I always love when we have guests on that you know, become part of this world and and you know winness it firsthand and can share that because it's so easy for us as viewers to be like, oh, that person's more of like a character and to you know, give our opinions and our comments and our judgments. Um. So I can't wait to see more of you and to see what this state hasn't so I truly have no idea yet. So good you think it's Yeah, it's a very funny one. And again like even with these guys, you know, I'm like, hey, I'm a mother of sons. Like I you know, I can book fun at them, but like I did really like love them kind of like you know, an answer something because I was like, you could do it, you know, but some of that would just like you'll see, I don't know what they're gonna show. But some of them did not do as well as others. But I still think he was handled with respect, even though even though you and Kaitly were like in the corner crying laughing. Right. Um, well, Heather, we are so happy that you joined us today and I can't wait as I said to watch you next week. Um, but we have to hype you up because you were just such a powerful badass woman that we all love and support. And so besides being you know, a guest host on a Bachelorette season Badchelrette Date, you're also a writer. You are a podcast host, a comedian. So please let all of our followers know where they can go to find you and check out all that you're doing well. My podcast, Juicy Scoop will is and it's just begetting a six year I've been doing it. It's every Tuesday and Thursday, of course, and the podcast I love it. I'll be covering or The Bachelor as well, of course, along with reality shows and pop culture and juicy interviews. And then I'm going back on tour. It's all at Heatherbeg Donald Dot Yay. I'm going to all the city wineries. I've got the rum prom as well, and it's brand new stand up material different than you've seen on my special, which is available at Amazon Prime. But I also save like exclusive Juicy Scoop stories just for the live shows because they can't be reported. It's not on the podcast. It's not a patron you a live show to get the juicy scoop about it, and so I'm excited. The dates are all there. I've got my fall, summer and fall set so m yeah. And then on Mondays I'll just be watching The Bachelor. Yeay. God. Well, and I want to come to one of your shows. I know when are you at the Urbane Improv October one, two, and three? So you're absolutely well girl, Oh well, for sure, we'll love it. Well, thank you so much for joining us. You are always welcome back on Bachelor Happy Hour anytime. Thank you. I've been such a Heather McDonald fan for a while now, and I fan girl it a little bit. I didn't want to I say that, I truly when I found out she was hosting a date, I was like, you're freaking kidding, mate. And she does not disappoint in person. She's so funny. I could not stop laughing the whole time. I can't wait to see when next three has in store. Oh my god, she she's everything. She's so fun. She was great. And I know you can't give us too much of what to expect in throughout the entire season. You have to save some of that for the show. I get it, but we did see a little teaser of what's to come, So can you, since you were there in the flesh, give us a little teaser of what we can expect anything you want? Wow? Well, I mean I know, honestly, I was even shook by the teaser, just because there's so much drama that goes down, and there's just so many twists and turns. Twists and turns, that's right. But what can I tell you? I mean, yeah, there might be some familiar faces. I don't know if they stick around. You might just have to watch and see. But you guys, these guys really give it their all and emotions run really high, and Katie is in for aut roller coaster. But it's good. So I can't wait to continue to watch and to continue to recap with you because this has been so incredibly Fontatia and to all of our Bachelor Happy our listeners, thank you guys for hanging out with us once again. We're so pumped to have a brand new season and we're and we're so happy to be able to share all of these fabulous men with you. Next week, we'll be sitting down with the Bachelor at herself. That is right, We're gonna have Katie on to pick her brain and maybe she'll give us a little more behind the scenes and juice and dirt and excitement that you know we all love. We all love to hear that. So if you guys do have any questions for Katie, please make sure to hit us up on social. We are at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and app, Batch Happy Hour on both Facebook and Twitter, and this always. 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