Medium King, Large Heart with Jonathon! | Golden Hour

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Speaker 2: I am going to quiz.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get blind because I got him first. Today we have fan favorite from gen season of the Bachelor and Future Bachelor and Paradise Star. Who's going to be dating me in Paradise? Jonathan Johnson is here? Yay, Jonathan, thanks for joining us. We are so you are too cute for words. You really are. You are absolutely adorable. I mean there's I have so many questions, but can I just jump in with the first one? You are twenty eight correct?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And you're a I want to talk about lacrosse. You're a lacrosse player, is that correct? What position did you play or do you play? Say, say again, close defense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so my son played long stick d same.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's a close long stick y same.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say I had I had a feeling there with the same and he now refs. He's like a state ref in Texas. Do you still play? Do you ref? What do you do?

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Speaker 4: No? I mean I have a whole lacrosse set up in my backyard and me and my roommates we all played in college and we'll just go back out there throughout the day.

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Speaker 1: And where did you play?

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Speaker 4: I played at a school called tier Nevada University in Lake.

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Speaker 1: Is it in the Sierra Nevadas in Lake?

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Speaker 4: It was a small club school, like nothing crazy. But I just went because I love the game and wanted to have fun and it was where I could snowboard still and just having your time.

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Speaker 1: It's a great game, is it not?

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Speaker 4: You know it's the best.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you, Jonathan, and see if you know the answer to this question. What is the NAT the national sport of Canada? Do you know?

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Speaker 4: Probably hockey?

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Speaker 1: I would guess, Jonathan, what what sport are we talking about?

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Speaker 4: I figured it is a question because you brought it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you made it obviously.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to throw you an easy pitch.

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Speaker 3: They're just trying to you know.

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Speaker 4: I know you guys are going to mess with me a little bit. I don't want to jump.

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Speaker 1: We are not going to mess with you one little bit. We're gonna be with you in paradise. Why would we mess with you on this?

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Speaker 2: Don't you think we should come?

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Speaker 4: I hope so we would have a ball, we.

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Speaker 2: Would have a bull.

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Speaker 3: But wait, before we get into all of it, I am so curious. You know, the internet is the Internet is the Internet. And everybody thought she ran to you and used we're dating the whole nine.

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Speaker 2: You have your opportunity. Now tell us like it is.

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Speaker 4: Or not.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear you speak up, young man?

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Speaker 4: What do you want to know?

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Speaker 1: Everything? Do you date?

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Speaker 2: Are you dating Jen?

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Speaker 4: No? But we do spend a lot of time together. We get along great. She did not come running back.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm I were your age, I would have done it. You know, I don't have gents hair, I don't have her body. But those are just details.

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Speaker 4: I'm more of a personality guy. Anyways, you are, oh big time?

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Speaker 1: Oh, Susan, maybe it's not too late. Where's your father?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm my that's very quiet guy. He lives in Kansas City, but he's more soft spoken, handsome guy.

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Speaker 2: Is he single?

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Speaker 1: Kathy, it's a shot for us us.

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Speaker 3: All right, so we're gon we're gonna get serious now, okay, and then we'll come back to this too.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right the other day, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's ever okay to keep secrets from your partner? And if so, when is the time you think it's okay to keep those secrets?

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Speaker 4: Only? Were very minimal things, I think. Okay, let's be very specific here.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: She gets a new dress that she is fired up on. You don't like it, but she feels incredible. How do I look in this? You look smashing? It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter how.

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Speaker 2: You your father trained you.

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Speaker 1: Well, you are well trained, Jonathan.

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Speaker 4: Wait their emotion of their state of mind.

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Speaker 3: Then all right, I'm going to give you some examples, like if you're leading a crush and mean things you might want to say during a fight, if a friend or family member doesn't like them, would you keep those things from them?

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Speaker 4: So what are you saying you get into a sibling fight? No?

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Speaker 3: No, No, Let's say your brother don't like the girl that you're with. Are you going to tell the girl? Look, my brother's not digging you.

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Speaker 4: So no, because my brother exactly to exactly like it doesn't Oh, my family doesn't like you? What is that? Together?

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Speaker 1: Are? What about if you what about if you like, had a crush on a girl, like just a fleeting crush, you know nothing, Are you going to tell her that you've like, I gotta tell you, I have had this little crush, but I'm kind of over it now you're going to tell her?

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Speaker 4: I am very direct. Anytime I approach women or if I have a crush on somebody, I let them know almost immediately. I don't. There's no real back in life.

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Speaker 3: I wait, you tell the person you have a crush on them?

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Speaker 2: Why don't I do that?

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Speaker 1: Because there's not enough time in the day for you to tell the people that.

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Speaker 4: Behind the confidence of When a woman comes up to a man and says I have a crush on you, that it gets me every day, like I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Wait, if a woman comes up to you and says I have a crush on you, you fall for her.

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Speaker 4: I don't fall for her, but I fall for the confidence. And I'm like, well, let's let's talk. Let's see if there's something here.

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Speaker 1: Then Hey, Jonathan, I like it. I have a crush on you.

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Speaker 4: Well, we still have another hour to talk, so let's figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are fabulous.

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Speaker 2: All right, Kathy, what would you do.

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Speaker 1: About a fleet of the brush?

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Speaker 2: No? No, do you think it's okay to keep secrets?

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Speaker 1: I'm with Jonathan. I think you know, it depends on what it is.

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Speaker 2: I would never want to hurt someone say.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean my Honestly, my my in laws did not like me very much because they you know who knows why. And I really always hated that my that I knew that. I wish you know, I hadn't known, although so I think it just depends on the circumstance. I do. I think it depends. I'm also Jonathan extremely honest, but it gets me into trouble sometimes.

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Speaker 4: Same but situation, I sugar. You need to hear the hard truth sometimes too, and whether you like it or not, like sometimes people need it, not like if a friend of yours is messing up and they can't see it. Sometimes you got to be the one to be the bearer of bad news and be like, you're really effing things up right now and it's not okay.

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Speaker 1: Susan did that to me today.

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Speaker 3: I do, but I sugarcoated and I'm very sweet about it. But I do make my point. I mean, because you love somebody, you don't want to have resentment or something, so you need to get it out. You have to say it like it is.

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Speaker 4: I'm a firm believer to it. You have an issue with somebody, doesn't matter who it is, it's not fair to that person to just have animosities towards them and then not at all.

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Speaker 2: And to build resentment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but wait a minute, as Susan, I've spoken about this. Don't you think delivery matters how you say it?

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Speaker 4: Can't yell at somebody who doesn't speak English and never going to understand why you're angry. So communication is huge. If they can't understand where you're coming from and how are you saying it, it's not going to be received. How you say it is just as important as how it's received.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that. All right, You're good in my book so far.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna we are gonna go ask you some questions because you know, inquiring minds do want to know. As like we said before, we cannot wait to see you in Paradise because you'll be carrying our luggage for us. But we wait.

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Speaker 3: Are you hoping that they do a Younger Ants and Golden Paradise together?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever hear that rumor?

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Speaker 4: We just heard that as soon as I got the first invite after mental Hall like the Golden Ladies came up, I was like, I don't discriminate. I'll have fun to hang out with whoever. I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I love him. You're fa and you know if if you're if, get your heart broken, Susan and I'll be there to console you.

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Speaker 3: Well, besides hoping that world'll be there, who else would you hope to be there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I keep.

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Speaker 4: Getting asked this question. Part of my answer is new blood. I don't have anybody, but it's partially because I haven't seen everybody. And like I said, I'm a big personality. Like I can see somebody be like, Wow, she's dropped dead, gorgeous, like love her look, love the aesthetic of who she is. But I'm not going to get conversation somebody if I don't know who they are yet, right and that and that kind of carries over into the thing, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Do you mean their personality? Jonathan? I lost you there. You're saying she could be beautiful, but you have to see what her personality is before you decide whether to go in. Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she could be a ten out of ten. But if I can't carry a conversation, I have the answer, it's just not going to work out.

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Speaker 3: So can I just tell you I loved your butt with the bandages and the whole gun.

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Speaker 1: I just want to ask you, like your butt hanging out with that's just so good, It was so good. I want to know other than it being a dick, like did you stay up late at night? Like how can I impress her? Like what went through your mind?

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Speaker 4: Honestly? I mean I think I'm just like a creative guy in general. And immediately when I was going over ideas, that was probably one of the top three or four that came to me almost immediately, And then me and my producer kind of built on it, and I was like, can we make this happen? Is this possible? And we landed on where if I.

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Speaker 1: Came out, So, you know, I'm going to ask you, what are you going to wear? If on Paradise? How are you going to stroll into the beach? What are you going to to do something new? Do you say nude new? What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Actually that's a really really good point because that one was focused on the fact that Jen is a pa.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, So why don't you just come in with like myself, a beautiful Italian suit with skinny leg pants and great.

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Speaker 1: Shoes, Susan stopping.

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Speaker 4: On a beach wear very short shorts. People seem to love so.

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Speaker 1: Can when I came in on our Golden Bachelor season and the producers, you know, they're asking, Uh, what did you think about all the people that came in creatively, because you know, somebody came in on a walk, or somebody came in a birthday suit, somebody came in in a wig and whatever. And I looked at him, I said, I'd see it creatively. I walked, Yeah, that's that was like, you know, we had a few on our season, but not not like that.

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Speaker 2: The guys were kind of tame on Jones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they were.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan covered his face too.

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Speaker 1: He's so cute, he's so he's adorable. But yeah, I think he stole from you, Jonathan number one. I think Jonathan number two.

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Speaker 3: Both like yeah, but there's no woman that you wish from any of the seasons that would be there, Nobody in particular, like some fresh new meat.

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Speaker 4: Yes, nobody in particular.

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Speaker 1: Yet Okay, I like it always way.

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Speaker 4: I want to go in with an open mind. I don't want to come in there and be set on one person.

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Speaker 2: Have something in your head, hell, lose sight.

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Speaker 4: And I don't see somebody who's amazing, like right there, and I don't give that is.

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Speaker 1: That is smart? Jonathan? Okay, So I have a question you I don't know where I read this, or maybe you said it on the show. I You've obviously received an incredible out point of love, you know from from the show You and everyone loves you. But what I loved is you said I treat every girl the way I would want to see my mother and sister treated.

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Speaker 2: That's when we fell in That's.

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Speaker 1: When I fell in love right there, because that the fact that you know that and want to treat a woman that way says that you understand how a woman wants to be treated. And it also says you treat your mother sister.

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Speaker 4: Well, I try my best to. I've gotten a little bit away from having the time to give to them with all the attention and things that I have going on. Yeah, but outside of that, when when I'm with them, you know, I like to like to put my phone away, I like to sit down and just listen. I like to be attentive. I like to give them confidence, make sure they feel comfortable, and a lot of that I treat women kind of have come forward to, like even if it's a girl friend, I don't care who it is. Every time a woman gets into my car, the door is open. Doors also open when she gets out, Like little, very little things if they're cold my jacket.

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Speaker 1: Like Jonathan, I have a what do you do for a living? Right now? I guess you're busy with all this, right.

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Speaker 4: I'm a creative director, but like I make ads for companies.

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Speaker 1: For social Okay, I've got a new career for you. I'm serious. I'm not even joking. You need to open up a business where you teach men civility and good manners and how not to take if they're going on websites dating websites, please do not take pictures of yourself, you know, naked from the bathroom, holding a beer in the bathroom in a towel and holding up a dead fish. Like you could really educate men if they want to find women.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to do that job, educate men on how to get on dating sites.

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Speaker 4: A hard part for the longest time for me is I think I am like like the stereotypical nice hair people like nice guys finished last. And I believed that for the longest time until I became very confident in myself and I realized I could still win and treat women with respect, whether it's even in the circumstances of just hooking up somebody, you meet them for one night and you hook up whatever.

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Speaker 2: Susan, do you know I just learned what hooking up.

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Speaker 4: I had to get hooking.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was all the way. Is that what you're saying sleep with somebody?

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Speaker 4: This is multiple definitions of it, but that's what I'm saying. But I think over time, I just learned that, Like you don't have to act like a quote unquote dick or like a guy that's just like so confident. So it's like I'm not suave, I'm not smooth, and I make people feel comfortable, okay, like they no matter the circumstance.

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Speaker 1: And are you taking a woman home to meet mama when you hook up with her one night? Is that the woman you're taking home to meet your mother?

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Speaker 4: No? I also have like a very friendly relationship with my mom too, where I would introduce anybody to my mom.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm asking.

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Speaker 4: I do know what you're asking. But also I don't judge based on that. Some people just to them it's it's fun and you have a connection with somebody and it happens to be more than just emotional. Maybe it's just physical that night too, Like you could connect emotionally to the depth that you do physically too, And I think that if that's where it leads, that's where it leads. There's no right or wrong that situation. To me, I don't think. I think everybody.

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Speaker 1: Susan looks like she said, Truck.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm hoping for, not only physically, but emotionally as well.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And that's the thing too, is like it won't happen, Like you can't just hook up with somebody, I guess for me unless that emotional connection is also there.

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Speaker 1: Have you hooked up with a woman for one night that you were like, this is you know, she's attractive, let's just go to bed together and have fun, And the next day she thinks you're about to ask her to get married. Has that ever happened? Jumps right in, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I'm just honestly like, I'm not one to just like hook up a bunch. It's just not my energy anymore. But it does happen, Like when you do treat people with respect and kindness like I like to. I think in today's modern world, people and people men aren't as respectful as they should be. They think that as this guy wants to be with me, and it could get you in trouble if you don't handle it in the right right way, with being honest and upfront with that person almost you.

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Speaker 3: And with respect. Yes, I have a big question. So you're like, this king of medium Kings, can you tell me what that is?

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Susan research, What the hell does that mean?

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Speaker 4: King?

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Speaker 1: I know what I kept coming up on the internet.

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Speaker 3: A mattresses and what how do we make medium kings?

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Speaker 1: Is a medium king?

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Speaker 2: What is it? Talk to us?

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Speaker 4: Before I went on the show was an ongoing joke with a friend of mine that I was not a short king. I wasn't a tall king or a tall guy. I was. I was medium. I was perfectly average.

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Speaker 2: How tall are you?

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Speaker 4: Five eleven?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a average.

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Speaker 4: I think five nine is actually the average. But medium kings are the average five nine and five eleven somewhere in that. And it became an ongoing joke and I just became like a self proclaimed medium king. So by the time I got on the show, I see all monstrosities that they bring on to the back and I'm like, what the hell am I doing here?

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Speaker 2: You can hold five out of it.

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Speaker 4: Because we had a comedy show in Australia. I did a whole bit about being a medium king, and I think people kind of ate it up. So that went on Jen and all the guys knew me as a medium king. The medium kid just told me that throughout the season and we just had with it. Yeah, there was the Bluepirt where Jen called me a medium king, and then now the public knew about it, and we just kind of ran that's.

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Speaker 2: What it's about. I didn't get it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't i'd either, I swear I tried to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: So are we medium queens?

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you five six eight? I mean technically yes, But it's it's hard with women because I feel like you're either just when you look at women, you're like, she's either just tall or I mean, like for me, I think a woman when she's like any from five foot to five nine, it's just like average. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think strong.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I was. I was tall.

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Speaker 2: You get to my age and you start losing inches.

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Speaker 1: It sucks.

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Speaker 4: I don't put women in baskets even based on height. That's just a disaster for me, and I will not.

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Speaker 3: What do you attract it to, like, what's your do you have a certain like ooh, I'm legs, okay.

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Speaker 4: I'm very much like into fitness and taking care of yourself.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: I have a question. Do you love being single and what's the best part of it right now? Or is there a least favorite thing about being single? I mean, you're going on these shows to find love, correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I love the freedom of being single, but I would also love more than anything to find somebody that is so independent but also put it in us that I still get to almost live that free lifestyle as far as like making like almost free decisions that she supports what I mean, so that that mindset of being able to live my life the way I want to live it still exists. But I have somebody who's in it, in it but like doing the same things themselves. So we have this confidence on one another where we get to bounce off each other and be like, oh my god, you gotta go do that. Have so much fun doing that. I'm gonna go do this too, And when we have time, we're gonna come together and we're going to share this amazing love and life together. So I think it's a it's a bounce where I want somebody who wants to do the same things I do and continue to take advantage of life.

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Speaker 3: And some women are more needy of your time, I think, and they don't have enough on their yeah, enough on their own, and that's why it would become a problem then for you to do your thing without Yeah, I get.

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Speaker 1: It all right, so quickly just before we move into our next thing, because we're going to answer some fan questions and you're going to help give advice. What do you have advice for people? Because you seem like a really positive, upbeat guy, but how do you what advice do you give for staying positive when others around you, you know, have found love and you're still dating. I realized you like the freedom, but what advice? How do you stay positive?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's delusion.

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Speaker 2: I'm a positive person.

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Speaker 1: I'm not eve gonna say I'm a delusionary too soon, I know.

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Speaker 4: I think if you truly believe in success and manifestation of any kind, that your time will come. Like I know my success financially and career driven, like I just know it's going to work out, and I'm like, ime will come I'm just staying on this path. And I feel that same way about I have friends that are married, multiple friends that are married, and friends that have kids, and I'm going to baby shower next Sunday and these are best friends from childhood, and not a single part of me has envy and way. It's like, God, I wish I was there right now. I wish I was here for this or that I know my time has come because I wouldn't have had the growth that I've had right been part of this amazing opportunity if I was already in a relationship. So now I get to enjoy this and appreciate that it came out way.

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Speaker 1: Everything in its time, right, everything.

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Speaker 4: In this time exactly.

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Speaker 1: Wait, all right, well that's a great answer, because I think everything will come. I think you're right. Believe, believe and believe.

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Speaker 4: I believe it.

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Speaker 3: I am worthy dreamer, and I believe it's coming.

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Speaker 1: All right, YouTube Dreamers, We're moving on here. We're going to go through some questions and Johnathan, you're going to give advice. The first one is from Stephan or Steven, but I'm going with Stephan because that's how it's spelled. He's thirty eight from Durham, North Carolina. Go Blue Devils, Duke Greeting's Susan and Cathy. I am writing in because my mom loves you too, and I am seeing her struggling with something. I'm a mama's boy and I need to try to help. So I thought that maybe she will listen to you guys if I play this back for her. She's been dating someone for the past six months who I just don't think treats her well at all. For context, my dad passed away eight years ago and he was a wonderful guy and treated her like the queen she is, so now I have very high standards for the kind of guy who should date her, and she thinks it's just because I don't want her to move on for my dad. That's not the case. I really do want her to be happy. But this guy is just a jerk. He expects her to pay for dates, leaves are hanging about plans for days on end, and always cancels on her last minute, like when she's already ready for a date. It's not crossed a dangerous line or anything like that, thankfully, It's just that he's not a good guy and I hate to see my mom sat all the time when she should be putting herself out there to meet someone better. What do you think this mama's boy should do? Feel free to share advice, both for me and for her. I'm going to make her listen to this. Thank you, ladies, and Jonathan, what do you.

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Speaker 2: I love this guy for writing this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think this is?

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Speaker 4: Because this is the situation I sit in. Actually, So I have seen a mom. She's fifty five, and I've never seen her married since I've been born.

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Speaker 3: So does she date Jonathan?

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Speaker 4: She yes, and no. I don't really, I don't know. I haven't said that. I haven't lived at home in a while, like ten years, so I haven't really gotten a chance to like sit down and really get into this topic with her. But for me, when I do see her date, I focus on her happiness in the situation. So, whether I love the guy or not, I ask her how she feels about it. Is she happy? Is she comfortable? Does she feel safe and secure? If all those answers are.

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Speaker 2: Yes, then then your mind your business.

00:26:12
Speaker 4: Not up to me. I'm not dating him. I don't have the end all be all decision in that. But if one of those main points doesn't check out, she's not happy, she doesn't feel safe, and she doesn't feel secure in it. I'm like the main advocate for being like, hey, we need you to really think about it because I can't tell. I've learned this every time you can't tell somebody, especially a woman's ways at this point, like that she's doing things wrong, you know, So trying to make sure they take a chance to reflect on the relationship and hopefully know better than what they deserve. And that's all I can do and be her support.

00:26:47
Speaker 1: You hit on it, Jonathan Stefan. Your mom. She may be perfectly happy with this, and it's up to you to respect your mom, lover. But at the end of the day, day if if I don't hear her complaining, I don't I hear her him saying that he's not good enough her. I don't hear him saying that his mother is miserable.

00:27:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know what if he's witnessing his mother being sad and he's canceling dates after she already got ready, why wouldn't you say something?

00:27:24
Speaker 1: Oh, I would say something. But he's not worth it, mom, But he's but she's he says, I hate to see my mom sad all the time. But I don't hear that the mom is communicating with him. You know, I can't do any better than this or you know anything that she's not verbalizing anything in this letter. So Stefan, I think you need to look carefully. Clearly, the guy's not up to your standards. But unfortunately he may be what she's happy with it. He may be good enough. She may be happy to settle.

00:27:58
Speaker 2: That's a terrible word.

00:27:59
Speaker 3: She should not settle, ever, agree. But if somebody cancels that many times, it makes me sad and expects her to pay for the dates.

00:28:09
Speaker 2: And you're saying for days on end.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: And then your son you excuse me what, you wouldn't wait for your son to say these things? You will not wait for I'm saying she should, but she's not well, then he should bring it to her attention.

00:28:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can only do so much for somebody. There's only a certain extent in which you can make things happen. People have themselves in order to make a change exactly, and that's really tough. So you have to help guide them and support them in that correct decision.

00:28:42
Speaker 2: That's sad.

00:28:43
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to stand by and watch it, but step on. Thank you and I'm glad you love your mom so much. Talk some sense into her.

00:28:54
Speaker 1: Okay.

00:28:54
Speaker 3: This next one's from Chloe and she is forty three from Waterloo, Ontario. Hey, ladies, I love the pod and I'm hoping for some words of encouragement. Right now, all of my best friends are either having or have had baby slash families, and I'm feeling so much jealousy and sadness. Being in my early forties. This has been the norm for a while, but now it's all my closest friends, and I feel like I'm getting to a point where it may be too late for me by the time I meet someone. I literally had a best friend and my cousin tells me this week that they're pregnant. I am truly beyond happy for my friend and don't want to bring them down, but I'm struggling emotionally. When my best friend told me, I actually cried about it for the rest of the night, which made me feel like a horrible person. Any advice on how to try to be happy for them while also feeling sad for myself, and how to set boundaries with them without sounding like I am not wanting to be a part of their pregnancy or their kids' lives. Appreciate you guys so much. Oh that breaks my heart. It's not too late, first of all. Second of all, of course you're going to feel sad because that's something that you want it. You are absolutely normal. I don't think there's anything at all wrong with you. And you will be a part of your friend's babies' lives. You just want it for yourself. I don't know what do you think, guys.

00:30:33
Speaker 1: Well, I will just quickly add that my daughter had her first baby, and several of her friends are in their late thirties and early forties, and they verbalize exactly this. You know, they're happy, but they feel like the window is closing for them, and you know, realistically it may be closing for them, not necessarily marriage, but having children. I think sometimes it's like Jonathan, you said, you just have to sort of live your life and celebrate the time that you are in in your life. And and if you celebrate that, then other opportunities come your way. And you you know, I think that she can be friends and should support them and love them, but it's okay to feel sad, but also realize that other incredible opportunities may be come in your way.

00:31:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me, this is a really hard one to answer, you know, especially as a man. You know, it's it's really hard to look at that and not be like, well, you shouldn't let other people's successes bring you down. That right feels like a source of like envy, where it's like you people like you shouldn't be matter. But it's not that easy, you know. I think there's a lot of societal pressure and physical pressure even to have kids at a certain age, and you have a biological clock that you're abiding by. So for me, it's just like I guess from from a guy's perspective, it's more just keep your head up and if that's something you really really want, and if it's you want it so bad that you don't care that you have a partner, you can there's other forms of making that happen right for yourself. So it's it's it's a tough one. I I wish her the absolute best, and I hope she kind of comes to conclusion on what she wants, because if she wants a family with a person, maybe she waits to find the person and then adopts.

00:32:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, or you could just go get That's what I mean.

00:32:41
Speaker 1: That's what I meant when I said being open to other opportunities adoption or seracy to be a mother.

00:32:47
Speaker 4: She could go to a fertility clinic and speak to a mother and find somebody later and the right person will be perfectly okay with that.

00:32:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do feel for and like I said, it's okay to feel a little bad for yourself because you are a little envious of that. You know, it's normal normally. I got a little sad on that one. Well, but you know what, Jonathan, you were awesome. I love your words of wisdom here. You seem much more mature.

00:33:19
Speaker 2: Than you actually your age. You got a good head on your shoulders.

00:33:23
Speaker 1: I have to say, though, Susan, I think a lot of the people that we have interviewed from Bachlorination.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: I think they are chronologically.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: You guys are obviously from where we sit. You know you're really young. But you guys, you know, we've done so many interviews at this point of Bachlorination people, and you all have such wonderful perspective and joyful lives, and even you've had some hard things you really have this upbeat attitude of life is good and I'm I'm so excited about where it's taking me in I for one, thank you for you know, sharing that happiness with us.

00:34:02
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, And hopefully we'll be with you on paradise.

00:34:05
Speaker 4: I would hope so.

00:34:06
Speaker 2: And to like.

00:34:11
Speaker 4: With the platform that I've been given in people give it apparently yeah, gifted and the fact that people are giving me so much love, all I want to do is return that in spades, and I hope that people take a little positivity and peace of mind from knowing like it.

00:34:27
Speaker 1: And that's to say Susan and I the thing that we try to do is give people that positivity. But also at our age, realize you're not invisible. Life is not for get up, move enjoy life because this is the last and best chapter of our lives. So it's the same kind of thing, just at our age it looks a little different. Well, listen, we can't wait to see you again, Jonathan. Hopefully it's Bachelor in Paradise, but now who knows. Be sure to follow us though on Bachelor Happy Hour because we do have new episodes coming out every week. And if you liked what we did today with Jonathan and our chats with him. You're gonna love what's coming up next.

00:35:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, please just keep sending us these questions because we'll do as much as we can to give you some advice, whether it's good advice or not. And you just have to go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour.

00:35:23
Speaker 1: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks so much, Jonathan. Everyone have a great week.