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Got you. I know, I got you. I was seeing if
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So this is I'm not gonna pay attention to you this whole episode. I
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We should. I'm telling you that you are. I'm trying to hype him
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I'm back. I'm still sick. Thank you for everyone that's sent you sick
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I had here. Listen if you can hear this, Tony, I got
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All right? That's that's the hailers say, all right, sweet, let's
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So keep that between us everybody. Yeah, don't tell anybody or we'll
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Deadlock updates. Tony. Wait, wait, what come on? You have
to tell the people what we're talking about today on the Deadlock twenty nine that
what are we watching, Tony is we already watched it and everybody that's listening
probably already watch. On the Patriot, we are watching ww E CW twenty
ten, the final episode of E c W as Everybody Comes a Free Agent
and NXT is about to start. So I in my in my brain,
I didn't realize that they were so like this is the end, Like I
thought it just ended and then they just moved on NXT. But this is
like the from start to finish, like this is easy to be is dead
after this? Yeah, we talked about it before, but I think they
came out two weeks earlier. Vince just came out and said, yeah,
he's going off air. In two weeks. I have some observers about that.
Actually, yeah, Vince literally just said that, and then they go
up the end and then they're like, this is the final ECW anything ever
of history, of all time, never ec W ever again, and they
make like they even will get into it, but like it's it's definitely like
a death of ECW. But there's nothing that like there's no like flashbacks or
anything. But as I said, we'll get into that one. What we
what we will get into now Tony or the Dead Lucky Days, the best
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Shenanigan. Also probably people that have never heard seen either of those guys wrestle,
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They definitely probably never saw an elge Erica matche Tony. That's fu Yeah,
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Raleigh, North Carolina at the NC State Fairgrounds, Curs Scott Building. Two
big shows we have DPW Live as well as DEPW you already know. Two
huge shows January twentieth, we have Andrew re Everett and Calvin Tankman for the
World champions Guy, that's gonna be crazy. Those Uh that's like a DPW
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Live and you can watch it live at DPW dot Live also, so you
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Stuve Grayson is crazy. DPW debuts. Chris Danger will be in attendance making
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well, anytime he has a live microphone, there's he's always going to break
the fourth wall or something. I don't know what he's doing, but we'll
see see you fourth wall. Mx M will also be making their n Ring
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January twenty first DEPW you already know Jake Something and Speedball. Mike Bailey will
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mother schmocker. Sh Do you have a joke from the podcast that you guys
have gotten tired of doing slash saying? And I actually I was trying to
think of it, and I don't know if I do. We haven't really
got tired. We just kind of retire the jokes. Yeah, we usually
don't. Just like if we if we get tired of doing one, we
just won't do it anymore. But usually, like, like, I find
it flattering when I see like you guys posting references to the Potter jokes like
like the like I thought that I would get sick of or maybe not dude,
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it's funny. So like maybe there's nothing that we have done, and like
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We have a question here from your boy Straw asks who is the worst
wrestler you have seen on your retro you so far? Maybe someone who appears
more than others, who can't just stop sucking. I think there's obvious ones
here, Tony, but I'll let you take it first time. Dallas Page
lost it last week controversy. Dude, you saw the promo with the James
said he liked the promo. He did like the promo, but I also
I was on your side, told him, I told you, I was
on your side. I told you, he said, said the pro is
good. I was on your side. But I don't think it was a
strike promo. No, that was one of the worst. I get what
they were going for. Wow, didn't just didn't hit it for me.
But uh, I also might think DDP sucks at promos now that I think
about it. But DDP is shockingly bad promo guy at least, I mean
maybe you know, obviously we haven't watched a lot of you know, we
need to watch more w CW from that time, but like we've we've watched
a good stretch of it, and every time he does a promo it's fucking
bad. We also talked about it at least the worst I think, though,
Yeah, we haven't watched a lot of like ninety or ninety eight Night
Trill where it's like his a lot of really good stuff. You know,
LIKEDP and all, you know, when he was going to get Hogan Er
came alone that stuff. You know, all those promos are good, but
you considered DDP one of the worst. At least he's good. I'm just
kidding about. I was just I just wanted to let you know about the
Third Strike that we saw last year. Yes, okay, I appreciate that.
I would say, like for James maybe Valvenus, well okay, Valvinus
came to mind first. Honky tonk Man came mine the first. Yeah,
Undertaker. Yeah. As far as like match yeah maybe, yeah, but
like valven is hockey talking, Undertaker, I feel like get the most heat
on these shows out of out of anybody, you know what I mean.
Yeah, Yeah, we talked about gotta be somebody else horse Hogan to Yeah,
but like I feel like we've seen a combined like four minutes of matches
yea of horse Hogan. Yeah, you're right. I'm trying to you know,
the oh the fucking uh dude, I don't even know the Highlanders fucking
yet. That's not yet. That's not yet. People have not seen that
yet. Maybe we'll talk about this question. That might be like oh wow,
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So that's coming up for the people on the Patriot. Highlanders could be there's
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yeah, that's a good teaser, Highlanders, that's a good one.
We have a question here from Giant Gonzales Missing Cock and Balls, asked this
is for you, Tony specifically, would you rather take a stinky pussy Bronco
buzzer from a young or a sweaties ball socco from mcfoley sweaty ball socco or
stinky pussy probably sweaty ball socco thing for really? Yeah? Why? Because
like that it's not I mean, like, yeah, it's in his pants,
but like I don't want that stinky pussy in my face, you know
what I mean? But like I didn't say what she was wearing. She
could be having, like you know, she could have like regular No,
dude, there's no covering that up there pussy. That's stinky. Whatever you
put on top of that, you'll still smell. It's like, wow,
yeah it's bad then, you know, mcfoley whatever, So you'd rather take
the sweaty ball soco for mc foley, Yeah, man, it's all right.
You know that socks been in a lot of people's mouth. It can't
be that mcfoley on your list for worst wrestler on RETROSNA post book. Mcfoley
maybe, but sure he's at all time matches, you know, like man.
So okay, So no pussy for you, Tony, No, I
would say no pussy. Okay, what about you? This was a Tony
question. You know what I mean? I might have to go for the
Bronco buster. I might fucking have to, man, Yeah, because like
I think that's funnier to tell you that, Like if that happened, Like,
I think that's a better story for me to tell you that that happened
than having mcfoley's balls in my mouth. Oh sure, you know what I
mean? Like May Young, I probably wasn't a situation that I Neither are
situations I want to be in. So like May Young and a pussy,
like that's funnier than mcfoley fucking sticking his balls in my mouth. Yeah,
you're right, you're that's my listen. That's just how I'm looking at it.
But you know, I could be wrong. I could be wrong.
Surfing towerk asked the woe that's not the question. Any chance we can get
more than one UFC episode of onnth if it's voted for SGH. I'm putting
this on here Tony because I wanted to ask the viewers or listeners excuse me.
So UFC has become very fucking popular in our page. Yeah exactly.
Yeah, but obviously there is a section. I don't know if it's a
majority or a minority of people that prefer wrestling because we're a wrestling show.
Sure, if we have discussed doing a monthly UFC watch along for the fifteen
dollars tier, so we would still do SGH and that'd be wrestling, and
then we would also do a fifteen dollars tier UFC. Is that something you
all would be interested in? Because if so, maybe that's something we can
do. Yeah, that is interesting. That's a good thought because people love
the UFC. I know, I see I do. I see comments on
Twitter and stuff, people like send us clips of like yeah, the clips
they get from that. But I think there's a lot of UFC. So
that's going, like we're chronologically going in order right now, So that's getting
you know, seeing the evolution of it would be pretty good. I mean,
if we were to do it that way, If we were to do
it that way, that's probably how we would do it. So if you
guys are okay with that comment, Yeah, like the wrestling sas that people
like and all that. No, it's like a balancing act. So we
got to figure something out. So if you guys want to see that lesson,
no, let us know. Use the name part nearly asks what would
you like to see in w W two K twenty four. It's about that
time, huh yeah, I think so what WrestleMania is that when the game
comes out. March is usually when these come out now, so I think
that's about right now. So I didn't mind two K twenty three. I'll
say that. Yeah, it's not my favorite game, but I think it
was better than two K twenty two. Yeah, and I think there was
some fun stuff with it. Me. I remember playing it at the event
with Tony. We did that fucking Cody match, which was did free for
me, by the way, thank you. That was awesome, man.
I loved it good. It was fun times. It's easier for me to
tell them what I would want them to improve on than what i'd like to
see, So like, obviously you know, a better universe mode, take
it back to you know how it used to be. I think it got
too busted. I don't. I don't know if they like just decided to
take like to give you less or whatever. But it doesn't seem like an
interesting mode to me, which I feel like it should be something. A
mode that gives me feuds and and and cut scenes is is when I want
cut scenes in wrestling games I love. I love the cut scenes were awesome.
Bring those back with that, you know, story creator, I'd love
to see come back anytime. Great A story is easy one, yeah,
but if you can't give us that more, cut scenes in all the fucking
things are great, you know what I mean. Like that's why I don't
like Showcase now because like when it cuts to fucking you know, half of
half of the time I'm playing, and I'm watching just a fucking w b
PC video. Yeah, and then like if you're like a creator, like
can you even put that on YouTube or not? No? But like I
guess, but that's you know, a very you know, yeah, I
get, but it's like that, But it's also like, uh, I
don't know, maybe that mode's not for us, you know what I mean?
Because no, But I also wonder, like, is do people like
that? Like I don't even I don't know. Do people enjoy like that
are like let's say they're just like w FA, oh that just like the
footage. I'm sure there's got to be right if if you're if you're somebody
that likes the footage style of Showcase, let us know, because I'm to
this and they probably like only watched w W like they're only a w B
fan, sure or something like that, like their kids like w B and
then they you know what I mean, It's like, yeah, it's probably
just like the super casual that don't tweet, But I would love I would
love more of a Rudd Wrestmenia kind of thing. Yeah, I think.
Uh, the cut scenes really took me out of that mode, which is
like oh I got to sit here and wait for this to end. Like
I was kind of just like looking at my watch like is this over you?
Like I already saw this match live. I just want to play it
kind of skip it. Yeah, that's what what was it back in the
old Showcase? Was it the ad one? Right? It was like all
cut scenes. It was awesome, even the the was it thirty years of
wrestlingia? Was that thirty years of use? They did? That was all
cut scenes too, right, Yeah, it was, Uh, it wasn't
that like recently, like a couple of years ago, they went they changed
it. Yeah, but I'm sure it's like this is a lot easier to
make. We could do it this. Yeah. Fuck yeah, I'm sure
it absolutely isn't like but like I don't want to hear that as a guy
buying it. You know, I don't care. Just do it, do
it good? Yeah, unlimited we got unlimited space on this disc. We
can put four K footage in there. And did you play My Career two
K twenty three? The lock? Yeah, the lock says, yeah I
did. No, I didn't play it. Actually no, I didn't either,
okay, because I was gonna ask him what you thought of it.
I'm gonna play it before the new one comes out. That's always. I
haven't touched it yet, but I guess I don't know. My my career
always seems like a daunting thing to me, like it's something I feel like
I just have to do, but I don't really want to see You were
we were talking about uh road WrestleMania and they had the created Wrestler Road Resmen.
You remember that one? Yeah, yeah, I do remember. I
think that would be a better fitting thing for my career would be like a
road Road to WrestleMania is. Honestly, I don't think I appreciated Road to
WrestleMania as much as I should have growing up. It was like something I
because I think in when that came out, I was more just playing online
with the boys, so like I kind of avoided all the fucking single player
stuff. But now that I go back and like I'm seeing like Chris and
and fucking Macho or whatever play those modes, I'm like, oh, wow,
these are actually kind of fun. Yeah, they were really good.
There was like four or five stories per Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
and then like you could go through all of them and it was really sweet
and it was fun, and you would you know, you just go a
few months and then it's over, and then you're there and there's like,
yeah, zombies in one of them, I think, and then there's like
a bunch of other crazy ship and it was cool. It was awesome,
and uh, I feel like they we explored, like we explored the option
of like Okay, we're going through developmental, now we're going to NXT,
then we're going after dish and we're going how many then and then try they
tried a different this year with like the lock and like oh, here's your
news story, and then the women they did as well. But it's like,
oh, so they did do it different. It was like the lock
you have like the gimmick of the lock or whatever. But it's like,
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what they could like
road russ Media probably would be the best option for that. Yeah, I
think so too, But they want to make it like uh NBA in my
career, right and what they were they do, Yeah, that's exactly.
I don't know. I don't know, I will say, and I don't
obviously, I don't. I don't. I don't know what the percentage of
people that buy these games play online, So obviously I don't know if this
matters at all. But I will say and shout out to small Afro for
making me fucking hate online. I love watching him play it. I will
watch his videos, I'll watch his streams, and he will sit there and
he will play a one v one match for thirty minutes and they're still kicking
out at one thirty minutes into the matches. This is fucking absurd. These
aren't these these It should not be this way. Whatever you have to do
to fucking fix whatever the problem is with that, You gotta fucking fix that.
That is insane. It makes it like I would love to play like
that. I also, by the way, they need to make it so
you can defend championships online. That's something they should have had a million years
ago. They took it away and it pisses me off, and they should
bring that too. I should bring them back, and they should make it
fucking more fun to play online. Your championship to your friend and then it's
gone off your he's gone from your car. So that's fucking amazing. That's
fucking great. So sick and that was awesome. Yeah, yeah, just
tighten that up. Also, like yeah, yeah, online should be fun.
You should want to go online and play and have fun. Yeah,
even like a w with their rank stuff was kind of it was alright.
I Mean the thing about the aw game was the matches were a lot faster,
so playing online didn't last you know what I mean? Good? Yeah,
and I'm not expected like obviously it's a different kind of game. It's
it's way more simulated, but like there's no there. It is unbelievable that
you can fucking get hit with ten finishers and a half hour in a matress
still kicking out at one. I mean that is it's fucking truly unbelievable.
I don't want to fucking do that. Yeah, yeah, So I just
gonna talk about the manefaction stuff for a minute. I just think my faction,
you know, the simplest thing for my faction is just whatever you're unlocked,
just be able to play offline, you know, Like, yes,
I don't say they fight so much against that that I don't know if that'll
ever happen. I don't know why. There's got to be a reason they
don't want to put more work into it or something, but like, yeah,
it doesn't feel like that's ever good. I guess what's going on is
like they don't make entrances because you don't use entrances in my FACTI sure,
so they just can't. They just don't. And then because I could guess
it saves time, and like, you know, there's like licensing with music,
and I think that mode sucks. By the way, I'm sure there's
people that like it. I think that mould fucking sucks. Yeah, it's
quick to your point, I would play it. I would play it if
it meant that I unlock stuff to use in other modes, right, Like
the action figure John scene that you could play as that is awesome, And
I got a lot of those codes for the boys. I got it,
and then I just thought, oh I could play it. Be sweet if
I could play with them and off fline. Yeah, that would be awesome.
But they don't. So yeah, that's a big thing, you know,
Like I love the championship thing, you know, defending online like you
were talking about, ye bring back story Creator and then online stories just do
that those that's all I want. I mean, they have a lot of
cutscenes now with my career, yeah, sure. The last thing I'll say,
I'm a big my GM player. There's definitely some stuff in my GM
that I would like for them to change. The big one though, the
big one that would add so much is trades. Trades would be fucking awesome
being able to trade in between brands. It's the one thing that, like
I is super glaring to me that you can't do because I'd be a fun
addition, especially because I do the multiplayer one. Yeah, that'd be tremendous.
I would love that, So I'm but I imagine, I imagine there's
some kind of my GM update in the next one, So god, I
hope it's that. That'd be trazy. When you could trade for superstars or
for money or something, that'd be cool. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
exactly. Yeah, monopolies, I don't give a fuck. Yeah,
that'd be sweet. That'd be awesome. That'd be cool. Last question here
from John Nickel. Uh, having to report a podcast weekly, how do
you make sure you get ready? And how does it go so smoothly if
it does? That's a fucking pretty interesting question. I've done many different techniques
on recording this show. I've I've done my notes many different ways. That's
what times I have done my notes many different ways. How do you do
them now compared to wait, would you change? Do I know this?
No? Just sometimes I would watch on my TV upstairs and like now my
computer and then do it on my phone. And that's kind of I do
remember you did it on your phone, which sounds insane to me. By
the way, it was all right. There was times when I would do
One time I tried to do voiceover, so like I I told you this
before I did Texas speech or whatever because Google. Yeah, because like there
was I was like tired. I was tired of typeing, you know,
because I type like yeah, it hurts my wrists sometimes, and I was
like talking like promos. I would like talking in there and be like why
it be like it come up. It was like it was all right,
I forgot about that. Yeah. So sometimes and then like other times,
I was like, it's hard to do it. But like now I have
like one monitor with split screen on it, so I'd have a show on
one side of my notes on the left side show full screen the show.
Uh. I don't know, it's just there's many different ways to do it.
Like right now I do is I have like my notes on one side
of my show on like split screen kind of stuff. Yeah, And like
the TNA one sometimes if there's like uh, because they have like a speed
thing on THEIRS. I don't know if they have it on w W one
Peacock maybe they do. But there was a couple of episodes where you could
like two X that not two X but like one point one point like Rember
almost like if it's a long episode or like a not so great episode,
you like almost double speed it, and not not double, but like a
little faster. Sure, but then when the promost come you obviously have to
stop it. But I don't know if I've ever done that. I think,
oh, you know what, Okay, I did that one time where
I watched the show at a higher speed and it was was it the first
XWF show that I watched and then lost my notes on and watch it again?
Fucking horrible? That was fucking horrible, man. Yeah, I mean
I I write, I read a lot. I write too much. Actually,
Like the boys, I show them my notes and they're like, you
are fucked in your head. You should not write this much. But I
have a bad memory, so like, I try to write as much as
I can, especially when it comes to promos. Then I'll do the observer
notes. I'll usually try to go through three different newsletters in its entirety to
try to find stuff. Sure, and then and then yeah, usually them
runny for the show, and we usually meet up at the same time every
week. Sometimes there's weeks where like we have to do something else so we
have to move a day, or like fucking there's internet problems. So yeah,
and of course the fact that we've been able to do it two hundred
and twenty nine weeks in a row, a new episode every week knock on
wood, uh, is is insane to me. I don't know if people
realize that that we've never missed, like obviously we've you know, it hasn't
been all of us every time, but for the most part, I mean
it is and it's Yeah, in two hundred and twenty nine new episodes,
Yeah, one every week, which is fucking you know, I don't pat
us on the back very much, but you know, I'll pat myself on
us on the back for that one. I think that's pretty fucking impressive.
Yeah. Yeah, there was a there was a crazy time what we used
to do. Uh, there was a time we were doing Dynamite and we're
doing retro and I think we even did like you and what I'm saying a
bunch of others, like we even did a dark Side of the Ring at
one point we did dark Side. Yeah, that retro retro. And the
ability for us to watch the retro watch the Dynamite because I think we watched
Dynamite and they recorded after Dynamite mm hmm. And the ability to do that
is just insane. I don't even know how we were able to do that
because that's so much wrestling and being able to like not only just comprehend what
all of that we watch and remember everything that we watch and even just like
have an entertaining and have an entertaining show on top of that, you know
what I mean to like, Yeah, it was fucked up. Make it
work is crazy, But uh, I think of the show. You know,
I love the show. I I uh, you know, there's there's
definitely like, like I can I can see how people would not like I
can see why podcasts die, like I can see why they don't last this
long. But I feel like I'm lucky because I love doing this. I
Like, I think this is fun as fuck. Like yeah, like if
I had the choice, like what, I just not fucking watch all this
shit? Yeah, but like I love doing this. I love watching some
bullshit and coming on here every week and fucking laughing what you dudes Like that
is awesome to me, Like I get to do this every week. It's
crazy. And the fact that we still have like some all time or episodes
that we've never done before. Like there's so much I don't want to off,
but because we'll eventually get to them. But like, sure, we've
been doing this for this long and there's still really good episodes to wrestling that
we haven't talked about. It is crazy, and like the longer we go,
the more stuff there is to review, which is people find new stuff
or even just like like eventually one day we could go back to like Aw's
first episode. We always choked about that, like imagine like years, you
know, we got endless amounts of content, and I think the best thing
about it that keeps us like going is that we just randomly pick an episode
and watch it, versus like try to have an arc of like stories or
like an arc of episodes that we couldn't do that because there's we've talked about
it one time. I won't say what it was, but we talked about
doing like a a series, but it just it didn't come to be,
at least not yet. Yeah, the best of the Undertaker. We just
couldn't find it. Yeah, which it was possible, it wasn't, it
didn't exist, but yeah, no, you're right, Like being able to
jump from eras is pretty fucking cool. So really that's that's why it That's
why it goes so smoothly is because we can. We kind of just get
to do whatever we want. Yeah, and promotions too, like we're not
we're not just like a W podcast or whatever. We're like, we're gonna
do ECW today, Oh, next week, we'll do WTN ah. Then
we're gonna go yeah, and it's like, oh shit, this company was
way differ than this company's crazy. Ye yeah. So and and really the
the biggest, biggest, biggest thing is when we do a show, it
comes out and then like we get messages saying, hey, this was good.
Hey, like this got me through work like that. Stuff's pretty fucking
Yeah, that's awesome, that's great, we love that. Keep bringing it.
But yeah, that is it for the Q and A this week.
Thank you all for your lovely questions. And now it is time to get
into the last episode of E E c W. Stephanie, what are you
doing here? Go the hell? All right? Now it's time to get
into the final WWE c W show. Wary sixteenth, twenty ten, A
Sad Time, Tony, the final WWE E c W show. Were you
at WWECW fan Tony? Early on I talked about the big shows, Tottle
rain being on rated people need to appreciate that title reign was sick and uh,
I don't know where the company would be if RVD was still Champion.
I don't know were you were you into when they changed like the HD set
and they had like Tiffany as the GM where you went like DJ Gabriel era.
Do you remember DJ Gabriel? I don't, at least a fox at
DJ Gabriel, don't remember DJ Gabriel, But uh, fuck you if I
saw a picture New Superstar an issue if you don't remember that Jack Swagger.
I did like that part of it where they had the uh the new people
coming up to the brand that you've never seen, and I thought that was
all. That was a fun time because that's you know, Zach Ryder and
fucking all that ship. Like we'll talk about it on the show, But
big Vance Archer fan back in the day because Lance dude, when he was
fucking walking out, I couldn't believe. But I was fucking seeing I was
so blown away. That whole segment was a fucking mind fuck. Before we
get into the episode, Tony, let's take a look at what was happening
in the world of wrestling around the time with the Wrestling Observer newsletter and the
Figure four Weekly. We got a little bit of a double dip here from
the Figure four Weekly. February eighth, twenty ten, ECW Makeovercoming. Vince
McMann announced on Easy to Be last week that as of Tuesday, February twenty
third, the show would be no more, but in its timeslot on Sci
Fi would be a new revolutionary quote unquote program, which, according to graphics
on SmackDown Superstars, will be called NXT. The decision to overhaul easyw in
a major way had been months in the making. Most likely the string of
load numbers in the zero point nine to one point zero range convinced the company
to accelerate the process. When Easy to Be first began, it was one
of the highest rated programs on the then Sci Fi network, but now it
has fallen to a level around the station average, and since it's wrestling,
it won't attract anywhere close to the advertising dollars of other program i'ming in that
range. What the new show will be is Anyone's guests and will likely change
a number of times. Before the launch on February twenty third, we've heard
a number of different ideas, and literally, in the last two weeks,
every idea I've heard within w has been different than the one I heard it
prior. So here are the ideas or the ideas that we're floating around for
NXT at the time. Okay. Number one, a show with a heavy
sci fi feel to it, similar to a wrestling version of Lost. How
the funck is that gonna What would that even be? Island? Yeah?
I don't know what how do you do that ship? Is that gonna be
like cinematic wrestling? You think? Uh? Yeah, I get yeah.
I think they should have fucking put zach ryder and you know she talks to
on a goddamn island together and so you killed each other first, the survivor.
The next idea was a show with an American idol twist to it,
which is kind of what it is. Yeah, that's exactly what voting to
it, right, That's exactly what it is. Yeah. A show with
a tough enough feel to it, though not the same as the original tough
Enough, which is also kind of what it became. It's just morphs into
both of those, I think anyway, an interactive show of some sort,
perhaps similar to Cyber Sunday, which I guess would have been more people voting
like match types and stuff. It'd have been interesting to have like a live
like a twitch chet kind of thing for a wrestling show. Surprise nobody's on
that. Huh yeah, it's crazy, that's interesting. And the last one
a traveling indie promotion quote unquote where wrestlers would face locals in whatever town they
worked every week, so they would just squash me ring of honor right now
exactly today. Uh god, I would love to know what the fuck Pro
Wrestling lost would have looked like, though, crazy or like, uh this
on Tuesdays? Right? I think it called his taboo Tuesday the show.
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, dude,
fucking Daniel Bryan fighting with goddamn scorpions on a fucking island and that's insane.
I'd love to see the local talents get squashed by big w superstar.
Uh. In TNA News, Brett Hart and Jeremy Borash hung out after raw
on Nashville last week. Borash put photos up on his Twitter. Brett said
they didn't talk about wrestling at all and made fun of some quote unquote feeble
minded idiot who saw it and started a rumor that he was going to TNA.
Brett says, why would anyone ever think I'd let Hogan and Bischoff anywhere
near my hitman persona? Again, is truly beyond me all right. From
the Observe of February fifteenth, twenty ten, Christian explained the situation regarding ECB
talent. Apparently all the talent that was on the show is being pulled from
the show and all our free agents available to sign with Rossmackdown. Meltzer says,
I think some guys are popping some major xanax this week. After hearing
that, Meltzer says, I'd like to think people at Christian, Ryder,
Mendez, Regal, Jackson and Tatsu would be safe. It's gonna be tough
for all of them to get a good position, as even Christian may end
up as a mid card, even though he's a great worker and talker,
just because Vince doesn't like his look. Abraham Washington is a super talker,
even though if you watch ECW you think the opposite. So he'll probably hook
up somewhere, but he's super green in the ring and they don't really go
for managers. Gold Dust didn't even get pushed in ECW. Hurricane would have
been on the edge even before last week. I just don't see anything in
Archer and his only strong point is being tall, which is no big deal.
Bretta and Croft may end up as the next Jesse Infestus on SmackDown since
Kasloff is supposed to be in the Morella sitcom. Maybe saved, but I
see him as a failed experiment. Since Tyler Rex has been hasn't been on
ECW in a long time, I see him as a guy who they'll use
on NXT. Interesting, that's what Meltzer's thinking right now. So there's there's
hope for the Dudebusters. I know you like the dude Buster. We do
like the dude Busters. I'm a fan of Dudebusters. I was. Kalen
Croff went on to be a teacher. Yeah, it's crazy. He just
quit wrestling all together, right, and that's so yeah you original best friends
really right? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, that's right. Yeah, that's
crazy. Also Christian that it didn't go anywhere. He won the World every
Day title. Actually, so he goes to SmackDown, all right, he
did? Okay from me? Okay, what is this morellas is? Was
it just like a segment on raw or was since he have a fucking it
was like like a talk show, Marella talk show? I think, right,
can't you have a talk show with ks? Were like a bowling hand.
Yeah, I do remember that, and I remember one of them was
very fucking funny. I just can't remember. Was he know Marella for an
exchange show? Okay, maybe it was a YouTube show. Okay, you
gotta check this out. This is the first I'm remembering this. I think
I remember this. Oh yeah's a w W dot com sitcom that was supposed
to be a sitcom. So at the time, like, uh, they
were really into making their own dot com So if I think even like because
at the end of the show it's just ECW you can watch on w dot
com. So I think they were making a lot of dot com shows stuff,
and like, yeah, they love Santino back then. You know,
he was super old. He was fucking over like Rover. Yeah, oh
yeah they yeah, haven't cause where the bowling hat or whatever? Remember that.
I do remember this. Yeah, yeah, so his job was saved.
This is one that I've we've read before on the show, but it's
so outrageous that I wanted to bring it back because this was like maybe one
hundred episodes ago. Yeah, in tena news haul, Cogan was trying to
recruit RVD and already actually put the tape conversation on his website, which if
anyone can find this, please send it to us, because I would love
to listen to this thing. Hogan brought up impact moving to Mondays, said
that he's been in talks with Jeff Hardy and how he and Hardy were discussing
quote unquote whacked out storyline ideas. Hardy hasn't signed yet but has and seemed
to show any interest in one a one shot office from other groups. Regarding
Hardy's future, as of press time, anything was possible and nothing was certain.
Harbady said he was interested in discussing it further, and the rest of
the conversation wasn't taped. Then, Hogan was on the Monday Night Mayhem radio
show. He strongly hinted about Monday but couldn't go out and say it,
just said there are things like budgeting and stuff and how quote unquote smart Marks
want them to go live on Mondays, but noted all sorts of issues,
hinting that there wasn't the case because of how much it'd cost. As noted
the last Word was going live every other week first and seeing how that affected
ratings. He said he's learned a lot in the short period he's been in
charge, and that if he's learned anything from the Australian Tour, it's that
he doesn't belong in the ring anymore. He brought up Jeff Haardy and Arvidy
like he thought he was getting them and claimed all kinds of WB people are
in contact. Hogan then claimed don Bubba Love's punge that he will be turning
heel soon. If he was, you think he wouldn't say it, But
then again, who knows. That's insane, bro, He is the most
fucking insane human being. I think that says like you could look up like
a million Bubba Love Sponge things with Hogan and it's all of it's a lie.
Everything he says is a lie all the time. Maybe I've seen someone
suggest that before, or maybe a couple of people actually that we like listen
to Hogan Bubba Love Sponge interviy for like the Different where like he was talking
about the screw job and he said, teen weeny little Sean Michael's help Brett
Heard's shoulders to the matt and wouldn't let him kick out at WrestleMania. Yeah,
yeah, that's a scow job. That's the screw job. Teeny weeny
little shot of Michaels held Brett Heard's shoulders down to the beat. The ref
got ad three. That was like Bubba lips Budge. So this is crazy.
The craziest ones I've seen are like uh after, because there's one like
right after the uh bash of the beach incident. I think he goes on
there and there's like a lot of shit on there. I think we talked
about the show before, but there's a thing we have talked about it.
There's a lot of shit on that. We maybe find that one and talk
about that sometimes, but okay, there's a lot of crazy shit going,
like, yeah, there's a million lines on that Bubba Love Sponge show.
I love it. And last thing here from the Observed February twenty second,
twenty ten. Another one we've read before, but it's in line with what
we're watching tonight in WW News, WW will introduce its first reality show since
Tough Enough on February twenty third from Milwaukee WNXT on Sci Fi as a new
way of getting the audience familiar with new talent. The show, said to
be based on the Ultimate Fighter and Tough Enough, will introduce eight new wrestlers
from FCW Florida Championship Wrestling and use the reality format to try to make them
stars. These these kids crash and burn a lot, said Vincent Man an
article. By putting them into this environment, we'll find out if they can
make it. There's no better ways to develop skills than being in front of
an audience, and that makes for good television. ECW it feels old,
it feels tired. Sometimes our brands need freshening up, and you have to
continue to invent yourself. That's what Vince said about EACW. It's old and
tired. Yeah, you're right, you're twenty ten. It's old and tired.
I've never never want to hear those words again. ECW's dead. Well,
ECW is fucking dead now. Not only is it dead now, Tony,
but we are reviewing the show what is it? Almost fourteen years later
and ECW still has not come back in any form, No, which is
surprise thing. Actually, very surprising. So let us get into the final
episode of w W E E C A C. All right, now it's
time to talk about w WE E c W February sixteenth, twenty ten c
W the final w c W Andre the Giant, the Baker. No,
they don't chee. Yeah, it's not over. The world is watching.
Yeah, what's the it's not over one from it's one. I don't it's
not over. The world is watching? Is that like they're still watching the
show. I promise it's not over the world. I don't know. Maybe
overrun. I don't know what's going on. Well, Tony, after twenty
years, it's all coming to an end. They are so in your face
about this week, the final episode of ECW. I couldn't believe it.
Voiceover Guy is cool? Nough I like the voiceover. Yeah, no,
it's cool. Years it's all coming to Yeah. Like I said at the
top, I didn't remember that. This was so like a definitive this is
the final e W thing what you will ever see on WW. Yeah,
they like you said, Vince came out and said two weeks were done,
and then this was the week, and then they legit this whole intro.
They show old clips of ECW like Sandman doing it and you know, Saboo
jumping around, But like there is that That is the only piece of old
ECW you get on this show. Like there's no like interviews from old guys
or like any more like the best of ECW. Thinks there what there is?
Oh, I'm so mad about one of these. We'll talk about a
fucking later. Dude. I think they just wiped this slight clean. You
know, Vince came out obviously just like he was just pissed. This sucks,
Like what is he like that? Shiit sucks? We're done in two
weeks? That like what they just had They had TV contract and then they
had to keep providing content for the TVA and they had to do a show
on on Sci Fi. Still, yeah, I'm pretty sure. So then
they're just like, well, we'll just figure it out in two weeks.
We got two weeks, we can figure it out. And so then they
did that next Lost. So then like Zach Rider on an Island and said
fuck EA c W and fuck Paul Hayman fu Rd and Sammon and Jack and
Tommy Dreaming and Raven and all them. Maybe Tommy Dreamer can stay around.
Wait he's gone, he retired already. I mean I think even listen,
it's be it'd be fucking outrageous. But there's they absolutely could have had fucking
all those dudes you just lest to come out and get beat up by Ezekiel
Jackson. No, they were just on tn A. No, they were
just they were like e c W is done, We're looking to the future.
Like I thought the same thing, and then I actually thought it was
better this way because I disagreed to it. I think Sabo should have come
out and taken the rough rider. They should have crucified Saboo Zach Ryder style
Chris Ryan and Giant W well yoh songways do yeah, hell yeah. Man,
if you're gonna kill e c W, let's just kill it. Man.
No, fuck, this is the best, like honestly, like like
as a corporate entity, that stuff Sandman into couch cushions should have been like
a time capsulor so you're like buried should you don't like that that trope of
like when a guy leaves the Independent or leaves W he's like buries his old
gimmick jail yeah yeah, or like burying the gravesite you know and they CW.
That'd been crazy. But this was the right move because they said,
we're done with this, We're moving to the future. We're gonna we're gonna
promote the new show that we got coming on, which is you know,
and they and promoted they do. This is a corporate entity W, so
they got to provide you with the next evolution of professional wrestling, which is
NXT. So you don't like the idea of Zach Ryder she taught to Zeke
and go off beating up the bad ship crazy W gold Dust is there too.
You don't want the modern day eliminators, the dude busters to take out
if you did the twenty ten Slammy Award winning or not. I don't think
that's true yet. I'm pretty sure, but yeah, so I think,
uh yeah, it would have been crazy if like Salmon and all of them
came back for one last thing. I mean, you got you got the
spirit of ECW living on through Christian here tonight, So we'll talk about it,
Ezekiel Jackson, Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, so W
is over tonight. On the final episode, e c W will go to
the extreme one last time as Christian will defend the CD title against Ezekiel Jackson
under extreme rules. I heard still standing here. Question, dude, this
song actually it slaps. That's insane to say, Tony, this slam of
a song, flap the intro not so much. I'm not a huge fan
of E C W HD, which is fans don't slap new Jack off a
balcony. I think this is a dude. Imagine if Zach Ryder just turned
like gold dust with like Vance Archer like beats them up here, we out
here, if Zach turned into gold dust here me out here listening. This
is this is how you preak this out. You see, HD lives on
in twenty twenty four. Okay, listening, So they do like the the
not electrocuted, because they already do that with gold dust. You know that.
Yeah, how could I forget? But they do like Dvance Archer slaps
Zach Ryder or whatever kind of thing. No back then, back then,
okay in this era. And then Zach Ryder has a fucking like a like
a like a like a stutter thing or whatever. That turns out okay without
needing the stock. But he's instead of he said woo, and he just
can't stop saying it. This is why you see me? That's at idea,
Toddy. I think I want to kill this whole company. No,
this alo, this is I'm standing here. Don't question my heart, don't
question my heart, and don't question the fire that burns. I remember the
most from this intro is the one very distinct shot of Ezekiel Jackson doing an
orgasm face. That's the only shot of the Easton to be intro. I
remember, dude, By the way, Saliva, this is Saliva. Isn't
that crazy? This song is not Saliva, dude, It says featuring Saliva
and Brent Smith of Shinedown. What I'm just telling you what I heard.
Jim Johnson, of course is credited because he always sicks the credit in the
spot. He's Nova and Brent Smith of Shineedown. Why maybe Saliva because you
know the background. You know, like, if you listen to the song,
it sounds like a Saliva song kind of. Now they hear it.
Okay, okay, Tony, So here we go. The original. There's
fucking four versions of this song. So Don't Question My Heart by Jim Johnson
featuring Kyle Morrison was the first version of the song, and then they went
into the version with Saliva and Brent Smith of Shine Shinedown Saliva and Shinedown Co
lab for e c W. What the fuck are they cooking over here?
This brad could have gone forever now. That shit sucks. You know what
we talked about originally c W. Though, I I will say, watching
this intro the don't question my Heart one, I kind of like the new
breed versus the originals. Few kind of idea. Not that it was a
great but I love the idea of like you were talking about, like Zach
Ryder beating up Sandman or whatever. You say, Well, that's that's inspired.
That's all different. But I think Striker and goddamn Pinstripe Underwears fighting Balls
Mahony fucking made me want to fucking end my life, Tony. So I
don't know how bad Striker get out this podcast. Sorry, I apologize,
be the worst Underwears. That might be the guy you talked about earlier in
the Q and A. Who do we hate bad Matt Striker just all over
a bad commentary, bad wrestling, bad give a lot of pyro here resting
PC sign and on commentary we have Byron Saxon and Josh Matthews a legendary team
who doesn't get any better than that. I said it before, but e
c W H D is still cursed to me. When I saw that at
the intro and it said ec W with the low D, Yeah is ECW
and then like HD underneath it, I'm like, this is fucked up,
bro, this is a weird time, is not e c W HD E
CWS just fucked up. But but at the time, see I had and
as a fucking you know ECW loyalist that I was Philadelphia boy. When it
got to the Superstar Initiative stuff, I was like, okay, you know
what, I actually kind of liked the show because I was at the time
also watching FCW, So I was just like watching FCW on TV. Yeah,
so I thought that was cool. And that's, you know, kind
of what NXT ended up fucking becoming just a televised developmental. Yeah, that's
kind of where they were going. I was like, oh, this is
kind of cool, and then that shit sucks. Yeah. When they were
doing the the East, when they were doing the small arenas and the ECW,
know like as a brand, yeah, yeah, like it was all
right. It wasn't bad. It was something they had an identity at least,
but this was I don't know. Listen, anyone knows the whereabouts of
DJ Gabriel. Let me know. He used to do all of fucking Claudio's
moves. What the do not talk about Justic Gabriel? Are you no?
DJ Gabriel. He was a fucking dancer guy, and he had Alicia Fox
with him and he would do the pop up upper cut and he would do
the giant swing. This guy, guy, dude, I see a picture.
I have no idea about DJ Johnny top fifteen moves of Justin Gabriel.
Let's go over them together, DJ Gabriel. That Justic Gabriel, Different guy,
DJ Gabriel, he said, Justin Oh sorry, DJ Gabriel. Base.
Look at that fucking guy. Who the fuck is DJ? He looks
like the miz. Let's go over his top fifteen movest ony number one,
hand sweep number or number fifteen sorry, number fourteen, arm drag, thirteen,
hip toss. He just normal welf diving double X had fuck you ten
backsuplex. Let's see initiative guy DJ garl Yeah, okay, he was on
Superstars and Ship running forarm Smash with his finished look see number six, Giant
Swing, the kneeling gut buster, Number one. Let's he was got number
one told you this Wow Wow, that's crazy. DJ Gabriel. But continuing
on here with this final ECW Josh Matthews Byron Sacks, and they're talking about
n XT in this new evolution of professional wrestling coming. Even on commentary they
say everyone's talking about next week the premiere of an XT wow. And tonight
we meet the cast of NXT and that is the crux of this episode.
Nothing fucking matters on the show but learning who is on NXT next week.
But opening our show here, we have a WWE Unified Tag Team Championship match.
The current Unified Tag Team champions are The Big Show and the Mizz And
this has to be one of the most insane mashup songs of all fucking time.
Jared, Show already happened, right, it was show happened correct,
after they thought we could come up with the Awesome Show or the show Men.
They don't have an they didn't have a name yet though I think shows
right, it was show is. But they just formed a meeting, you
know, like yeah, so they had jar Show and they had the Jo
Show theme and then they had let's do the awesome the Show mis theme and
uh, explain this all right? So here is how you hear the Big
Show and Missus theme song. This is what you hear. We are some
Big Show. I came to play that's it goes big? Why is it?
Why does it say like that? Does it say like the real song
Big Show? What they're like it'll play like is it the Missiness theme?
I don't even remember, and it just says like random quotes from Big Show
in the middle of it, he Show Show, Yeah, dude, yeah,
get ready for trouble so big the fuck's going on here? This sucks
so bad it's unfucking I had to stop watching because I was fucking laughing so
hard because I in my head like I remember that being like a mashup that
like my buddy Blake made just to like as a joke, Big big,
Big, big big Big, But like, this is a real fucking mashup
that they used Big Show. I was like, what the fuck for all
the ship that I give them? By the way, I did think he
looked cool with the double belts in the US title did look pretty good.
Yeah, Big Show look cool belts also a pretty sweet. Big Show kind
of looked like a smack dass, but I'll give it up a Big Show
school. He's always cool. And then you know what, they got to
bring these dudes back because remember the e c W brand stays true to what
it was because Big Show was a former champion and the middle run with the
hat and the bird tot and the ship that's ECW threw too. So eight
days ago, Tony on Raw missing Big Show won the tech titles from d
X. Shawn's like distraught here, which I think I'm assuming this is the
lead up to Sean Taker. I don't remember what many of it is.
Is that this one? Yeah? I think so. I think, uh,
it's like he does a match, right, is this is this is
not the first match that's what he tries. Isn't this the one where he
tries to win the rumble and then like he does the hands Does that make
sense? And then he super kicks the raft. I think that's this one,
Okay, okay, yeah that makes sense Taker Sean and then I think
he's gone right yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah that makes sense.
Yeah, So Shawn's de shaught. He's you know, thinking about Taker,
Shawn tags it when she replaces a house of fire on Raw, mis
rolls up Sean and gets to win, and they win the tag titles there.
Wow, what crazy? What crazy happens here is and now they're coming
to be Tag champions here on e c W to relive the glory of ECW
because we love ECW here now, Tony, if you if you put a
litany of large guns to my head and said I had to fucking tell you
who this tag team was that was coming out to face Big Show and Viz,
you would have put an unbelievable amount of holes into my head. I
could have never fucking guessed this. The only team like I could have thought
would have been like the dude Buster, right, I don't need any other
teams. I would have just legit. I was thinking it was gonna be
Carlito in Primo. I don't know why. That's who I fucking thought.
That's the team that I expected. I am the tag team representing ECW here
to get a shot at the Unified Tag Team Championships. Is gold Dust and
Yoshi taught to you in an ECW short. What dude, this is fucking
insane and even on commentary Byron sections like oh, I'm fucking surprised that the
great chemistry between Goldist and Yoshi because Yoshi doesn't speak English, What the fuck
are you talking about? Do they speak the international language of wrestling? Of
course? Brother, of course? And Yoshi and gold Dust in this matter
are doing some combo moves here. They do a thing where I think,
I think gold Dust catapults amazing into like a forum from Yoshi Tatsu, and
Yoshi Tatsu does a running flipping sent on. Yeah, good moves, and
then Yoshi drops down and miz runs into a big ass of gold Dust in
the air. I love the big as which is a big ass commentary.
Very confusing here for me. Tony Josh Matthews calls Yoshi Tatsu the cardiac kid.
Yeah the fuck does that mean? Because he puts you in a cardiac
arrest? That's fucking Is that right? Is that what he did? Why
didn't they do that to the Sandman? I have no idea what he's talking
about. He's just saying ship they're just talking about. Like the whole commentary
is just like, oh, look how good they're together. Oh they're like
strange, uh, strange friends, but they work out bad fellows. Yeah,
this match went less than ten. By the way, it did not
feel like Yeah, it was a very very long match. It felt like
Yoshi tries to fight back on the Midge eventually hits them with what Josh Matthews
calls a roaring elbow, which is not true. That is just Joey Styles
misinterpreting Misato tanaka rolling goddamn elbow Tody, and then gold dust tags, in
which Josh Matthews then goes on to call gold dust the following two things,
the maverick and the non conformist. Nonconformist I get, but the Maverick logan
gold dust the Maverick. Okay, the fuck. They're just like legit,
just saying stuff. I don't know if they were trying to like come up
with stuff and hopefully something sticks to one of these guys doesn't get fired.
It's like they're just the cardiac kid. Yeah, he's coming to SmackDown.
It's because like, uh, Byron Saxton and Josh Matthews don't really have like
a personality, you know, like whatever, they're trying to figure it out.
Still, I think right, they were fucking shitty. Yeah, they're
trying to get it, so they're like, oh, well, you know,
like Jim Ross says, the cardiac kid, it's the non conformist Bob.
Actually. Eventually, Big Show goozles Yoshi by his throat and flips them
backwards over the top rope, then walks along the apron where gold Dust is
doing ten punches in the corner to Miz. The ref is distracted because Yoshi
tats he went to the floor, so Big Soil walks over and punches gold
Dust in the balls and then the mis hits the skull crushing finale on gold
Dust to get the win and retain unified tag team titles, still unified champions,
and uh yeah, no, did you like show? Miss? Uh?
It was all right. I don't know. There's a lot of the
Miz stuff that kind of runs together for me to this day. To this
day, it wasn't bad. It just was a team. It was like,
yeah, okay, yeah. As they're up the ramp, Big Show,
who is of course the big heel here, he looks out of the
crowd and goes, look, we can't be stopped, dude, He's a
big, big ship. Due it was straight out of the water. Dude.
Yeah. They said, like, be the fucking most just the most
bad guy you could be. And then we this is the part of the
show where we start to look at some of these n x T rookies.
Tony not really look at them. I thought were gonna get video packages or
something. We don't get nothing, We just get names. No, they
say that ship for next week the pro is Chris Jericho and his mentee will
be Wade Bauer w former a former bare knuckle fighter from England. And this
is this part of the story that I don't remember. I don't know if
they dropped this or what. A former bare knuckle fighter from England that is
distinctively obsessed with the money. What's very knuckle fighting, distinctly upsetsed with money
and he'll do anything to get it, like get a job. No,
dude, he's very knuckle fighting for money. What else do you what?
He's in w W E and I love to fight for money. This next
one blew my fucking mind. Sounds like a get away for Johnny to hear
this, dude, I thought I was hearing things. I legit. Had
to look it up because I was like, there's no way this is what
I'm thinking the pro is Matt Hardy. Yeah, pop Actually for Matt.
Matt Hardy's over here and he will be mentoring Justin Gabriel. This I swear
to you dead luck listeners. This is what they fucking said Justin Gabriel.
He is a cross between Johnny Damon and American idols out of Lambert. There's
no fucking way We're just talking about Johnny dam the baseball player general manager.
Like I was like, there's the guest hosted all Johnny demon How do we
keep doing that? Where like, like I feel like that happened with Jesse
Ventora, he like kept getting brought up after we mentioned him once. I
never thought about Johnny Damon in my entire life and day you ever ever ever
and he comes up twice. Well, backstage are easy to be general manager
Tiffany. For the last time, we'll address Siffla Tiffany of course, tarn
Terrellton, Oh yes, great DNA legend, t legend. We watched her
versus Gail Kim for Patreon All Timer matches in TNA. Tremendous fucking match.
Her run in TNA is awesome. If you only know if Tiffany from w
w E. You are insane? How is that possible that that's all you
know from? Yeah, go watch her TNA stuff very good. So yeah,
Tiffany says e w B superstars will mentor eight aggressive and opinionated. They
sure wanted to get that over needs money. I like, I need all
those guys needed money. Is where all the dudes are broke? Uh?
Then Zach Ryder uh and Rosa Mendez get beat up. Zach Ryder says,
I just don't get it. How can Christian and Zekiol Jackson have the honor
of competing in the final Easy to B title match? Wouldn't it be better
and more appropriate to have the heart and soul superhero of e c W compete
in the final match? Those that are no, he was the heart and
soul SUPERHEROVCW because he won a feud against Tommy Dreamer, who was the heart
and soul of VCW, and he won a feud with Hurricane, who was
of course a superhero. I like it. That's actually awesome, that's really
good. Yeah, he says, want to be better if I was gonna
match and Timany says no, And sex's why. Tidy says, you lost
a Christian last week and Zex says that was on Superstars that well. Rosa
Mendez starts yelling at Tiffany and Spanish, and Tiffany says, listen, I
don't care what language you're asking. The answer is no. Well, Zex
says, this is in a fucking extreme rules match. So if I want
my presence felt, I'm gonna kill Sabu. I want to kill sab tonight.
I killed Sabu might He's gonna get in this match. His presence will
be felt tonight. Not even Tiffany could stop him. Woo you know it
more. NXT reveals here uh MVP will be mentoring Skip Sheffield, who they
describe as an old fashioned Texas boy who has been called an awesome inside the
ring? Is that what they said? Yeah? He is also known as
the right back see a Buke Wake Up Time. I thought they were calling
him a hoss, but I feel like Josh Matthews fucked it up and called
him an awesome inside the ring. Yeah, he's an awesome and he likes
to He likes to entertain outside the ring as well, Tony. They didn't
say how or what he does, but he just does his song Awesome.
I can't, So they're they're really not doing a great job of they lie
on all of the Dude, why there s pre tags? Why you just
play video packages come on that they end up dating on the we reviewed the
first the next tam right, Uh we yeah, I think so. I
think yes. They show a lot of those on there. So they were
just done better than having Josh Matthews and ship. They had the fucking time
Tony, because there's something that they show later that took five whole minutes that
I was fucking so annoyed at. Yeah, and we go back to the
ring and my mad Tony Atlas is standing in the ring. There's couches in
the ring. It's the Abraham Washington Show, star in Abraham Washington. He
abe Abraham Washington. I'm I'm actually curious how many people even know who the
fuck this is that's listening to the show. I know he managed the Primetime
players for a minute, okay, and then he got fired for like a
Kobe Bryant joke, which was fucking insane. Okay, he would be he
would manage at ringside and but they'd have a live mic on him, holy
shit, and he would just riff at ringside. Wow, and like yeah,
he made like a crazy, fucked up joke about Kobe Bryant like this,
and then like yeah they had to like apologize for it and like TMZ
and shit, this is insane. Yeah. Think about Abraham Washington, like
we I think I mentioned him, like a couple of weeks ago. We
were talking about like the worst talk show on the Q and A or something.
Oh yeah, this is like, uh, I get what they were
going for here. So the idea was like, uh, like Conan O'Brien
or Jimmy King. Yeah, he was a late night comedy guy with Tony
Alice in the back, laughing like the you know, who's the guy,
the bald guy with glasses though always I'm bad at this. I know what
you're talking about. The David Letterman. Yeah, I know what you're talking
about, the guy in the back of the David Letterman Show. That was
what they were going for, The David Letterman Show. Uh. Fans,
the kids, they don't get it. They don't like it. Nobody crickets,
nobody even to have their goddamn in ring talk segment. Goddamn it,
They's okay to have this, but the fans just did not care. They
did not like it. Abraham Washington says, thank you, thank you.
I said thank you. I'm trying to be a nice son. He said,
I'm the most entertaining man in all sports entertainment. Abraham Washington and Tony
Atlas. No, even if he's not making a joke, even if Abraham
Washington is just in the middle of talking, he legit is just standing behind
him going, oh, there's applause signs showing up on the tron. Abraham
Washington says, thank you, Saint Louis. Tony, they're not in st
say sorry, I only remember important cities. Yeah. So, like,
I guarantee they told uh Tony Alice to do more than laugh, like because
later he does he like say oh shit or so I don't remember what he
said. Yeah, he like they want him to probably like be like a
sidekick more. Yeah, I guarantee Vince thought this was hilario. Vince probably
thought this was the funniest he's ever seen. I thought this was a fucking
I love this shit. It was like, this is great, let's go.
So, Abraham Washington says, this happens to be the final episode of
ECW and I know it's sad, but there is a silver lining because after
the night, Abraham Washington will be an official free agent and wwe and Abe
says, you know what that means. It means I'm rich, and you
know the rest time that's right, I said. Wade Barrett comes out and
says, I want your money I need. Yeah. Abraham Washington tries to
do that I'm rich, bitch thing I think, but he says, I'm
rich. You know the rest hurt. That's right, I said it,
he did. Abe says that Ron's I'm gonna have to open up their banks
to get me and Lebron James and Kobe Bryant, all right, nothing compared
to me as a free agent. And everybody's talking about the new action packed
innovative show w NXT. You have seen this? Have you heard about this?
Which will be premiering right here next week? On to my final guests
for the evening. Since this is such a big show, I went to
vincheck Man himself and told him the final Abraham Washington Show needed the biggest star
in the company. And Abraham Washington says, I'm gonna do this right and
he got it. On the couch. He pointed at the stage and says,
join me and welcome it my final guest here in ECW. The biggest
name in sports and entertainment. Abraham Washington got it, so he said,
let's get an interview. He sits down, start talking to himself. He
says, look, you're you're looking mighty jacked, and then showing Benjamin's theme
hits Tony, Hey, no to different. Yeah, it's the gold standard
version of the song. You can't stop going to give it to you.
It's just a little bit different. He a w version. I like your
version. You like a gold standard gold hair, you know, dude,
I fucking I thought gold standard Shelton was awesome. Anytime I played E W
R of this era, I always gave Shelton the c B title. Oh
really okay, yeah, because I thought I was like, this is why
not? Yeah? He does? You know? He was a great wrestler.
He should have got more. He's still awesome today, which is crazy.
And it's not like EW was like promo heavy or anything like. I
understand it's a w W show, but I don't see why Shelton was good.
I don't see why he could. You know, he fucking fucking put
Abraham Washington on him whatever, if he needs a manager, don't put match
striker in the pin stripe underwear with him, but put you know, put
a manager with him if he needs to. And then fucking give the gimmick,
dude, easy enough, just like make him a workhorse champ, you
know. Just have good matches, Yeah, people like them all they could
have done in Just have really good matches that would have been different than anything
they're doing. On Christian was doing right exactly well. Shelton comes out,
interrupts him, and Tony Alas is dancing to Shell's theme. Of course.
Abraham Washington says, you might not be wearing her hearing aid, but I'm
my final guest on this show, not you Goldie locks and Sheldon says,
first, you better check your tone. It talks like Undertaker for some reason
does. Second, this show is basically unwatchable when you have a guest,
So what makes you think that anyone wants to watch it when the guest is
you? Never mind, don't give a shout on the fucking belt. I
disagree. There's one guy. That guy is like this show is. Yeah,
Sheelon says, when you think about that, think about this since this
is the last time of ECW, that means everybody's a free agent. Everybody.
So with that in mind, I plan on taking the knowledge that I've
gained here in ECW and and shut in. Benjamin is then interrupted by a
mysterious theme song. And who is it? Tony vance Archer? Not mysterious
because I used to play as him in the game. She used to awesome
bro. I'm assuming everyone knows, but Vance Archer is of course Lance Archer.
Will say that Lance Archer, who you know was Lance Archer, now
he was Lance Hoyt and dna uh and now he was Vance Archer in WW.
Yes, it's crazy. What the fuck did they do to his hair
here? They made him, they took him, told him to cut his
hair. I think there was like a story about it. Is that right?
Yeah, at least I find it because I had it here before.
Well, I have a Lance Archer recalls w Be telling him he was not
big enough and that he should cut his hair. When I debuted on ECW
product, I had short hair, no facial hair, no jacket, nothing
that was decided. Five minutes before the doors opened. I had hair down
to the mill of my back of go tea and had this big, badass
biker jacket I wore. I had this image in his personality and this mentality
and FCW that was, from my understanding, was the reason why I got
brought up. But literally, five minutes before doors open, I'm standing in
the ring and Vince and Johnny Johnny as were talking to each other. Then
Johnny said, hey, come here, and I said, what's up?
He said, cut your hair. I asked if I was on TV to
night. He said yes. I said, okay, whatever. I chopped
my hair off and shaved my face and they had me lose the jacket.
That is fucking crazy. Isn't that insane? That's so crazy? Five minutes
five five minutes before the fucking doors open, they had him his debut to
his debut on Yeah. Wow, I had a good call, Tony.
I had no fucking idea. I remember him telling this, sir, because
I was like, holy shit, that is in yea. So, yeah,
he looks fucking crazy here. Vance Archer. What a crazy name.
By the way, Vance Archer. Vance Archer has been feuding with Shelton at
the time, I believe and Vance Archer says, I'm here to tell Shelton
at his future. Better not have him on the same show as me,
otherwise you won't have a future, and he says, come on, now,
take it easy. But then Tony's boys come out, the Dude Busters,
Kayln Craft and Tramperena, the Best Friends V One come out, and
I think these guys, dude, I do like him. They don't have
their original theme song. That's awesome. Didn't didn't It was the repuff of
Bittersweet Symphony, right, Yeah, that song was awesome, the great they
nixed that right away. But but yeah, those guys are awesome. They
were cool. They said they won the twenty ten Slammy Awards, which didn't
even happen the year. It didn't even happen yet. No, it didn't
happen yet. And that's all they get to say because Koslov comes out,
Yeah, pretty good in a bowl. Kauzlov comes out, cuts a promo
on Russian gets the what treatment. Everyone in the ring is laughing at him.
By the way, this so this isn't debut Koslov. By the way,
this is Kazloff already has feuded with Undertaker Kaslov. Holy yeah, so
this isn't like he's he's ready to like move up. He's already moved down.
That's great, that's insane. Vans Artis says, nobody can understand you
Kasloff and pushes him, which leads to Kasof hitting him with the Smacked versus
Raw twenty ten boot to the chest and fox everyone up. He throws kaylen
Croft over the couch, then does a running shove to Shelton Ben or to
Trent excuse me that shouting threw him into and then shouting Kasloff to a very
long stare down, which leads to them just shaking hands and hugging. Right.
I don't know why, I guess cause just to make sure Kaslof is
his face. Are they going to be a team here? And the raw?
I'm pretty sure, okay, all right, whatever kaes raw, Shelton
might go to smack up, yeah, cause goes right into the Santino stuff.
I'm pretty sure. Oh yeah, you're right. Dude, Busters hang
around for a minute, right, and then they leave or whatever I think
dude Busters go to Superstars, oh wow, and then uh yeah, they're
fucking gone. Dude, Vance Archer. I was looking this up because I
was like, what the hell happened Advanced Archer Crashers bro He yeah, he
teamed up with Kurt Hawkins and they became the gate Crashers, which I fucking
have no memory of. The gate Crashers. By the way, Ay Crashers
was a name. I don't know if Matt Striker came up with it,
but I remember like he was the only one that ever said that, Like,
I don't know if that ever made it anywhere, but Matt Striker's voice.
So we go from Shelton kusof shaking hands and hugging to more NXT intros.
The pro will be Raw superstar Carlito and his rookie will be the man
known as Michael Tarvor. Tarvor claims to be a knockout specialist, they say,
and he can knock out any man in one point nine seconds or last.
And his father was a sparring partner for Mike Dyason. I do remember
this. I do remember this, Okay, I remember this to Tony,
but I don't know if they ever ever ever had him win a match in
that amount of time. And then also I remember we read this an observer
from a while ago, that they had him drop the gimmick because Big Show
was doing the knockout punch. That's awesome. The whole fucking reason part of
me like, you couldn't do anymore because big show that she just made him
hard. Kimberson, you go one glove about it and said, oh my
god, one glove and one fucking mm a glove. One. Yeah,
that would have been so good, bro, that would be awesome. Mike,
what do you think? There's two things I think of when I think
of Michael Tarver. You'll never get the tea. The tea Michael Tarver him
punching Sena in the next I remember was this, Uh, dude, I
don't know what it was or where it was. It's one of the n
L boys. I swear it went crazy when Jericho Michael Tarvor showed up with
like New Japan or something. Dude, Tony, I was like, I
swear before you start talking, I was about to tell you that story.
So Jericho is Jericho and New Legacy became a new Japan fan because Michael Tarbor
started working there. True fucking story. He fucking that's the only reason he
became a new He's still a New Japan fan to this day. When was
there Bullet Club and Ship right, wasn't it. It was early Bullet Club.
It was Bruce Tharpdez sup nw A with Michael Tarvor and Big Daddy Yum
Yum taking machine gun chops from Goojima. I don't know how I remember that.
That is insane that you know that that's a random ass thing of life.
True though, it's so random because Michael Tarver's grew up in Nujepan and
there's one person who liked him. That's his biggest claim, the fame for
me getting Jericho into New Japan. Those are the only things I remember Michael
Tarv are the t and then the New Japan story. Uh So, there's
more NXT intros here. Our next pro is one half of the Unified Tag
Champions the Miz and his rookie has competed all over the world and claims that
more experience than every other competitor. This is Daniel O'Brien Brian Danielson, Oh
hell yeah, and you're fucking Brian Man and Daniel Bryan uh Mad his New
Japan debut after Michael Tarver. So that really shows what kind of athlete he
is. I think you did, Brian. They purposely dumbed him down on
an XT. You probably already know that. But they they said they made
him look like a dork on purpose, like he oh, I figured that
was the hated him, like that was like the whole gaming. He was
like, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah,
that's well. He fucking I remember they fucking did the thing where they made
fun of him for not eating meat and not drinking soda and not watching TV.
They called him a nerd. Yeah, you're right, you're right.
So this next part Tony annoyed me unbelievable. And this again a nothing fucking
show. It doesn't fucking matter. But the final ECW thing, it could
have did some kind of ECW goodbye thing or like a retrospective of ECW.
No we get legit and I looked at it, it might have been more
five minutes of what started out as seemingly a memorial video for the fucking Elimination
Chamber. There's like sad music playing at the beginning. It's not like Ominous
are haunting. No, you're sad music for the Elimination Chamber. That made
me think it like died, it died. The fucking Elimination Chamber is five
nights away and they're doing a memorial video. He's dead here. Hello,
they have to show the chamber, you know, the c W chambers talking
minutes of anam. We know what the goddamn elimination chamber. If he's on
Sunday and this is the road Russemanias, philos obstacles, no more. No
one's watching this show. First of all, this is the last opportunity for
W superstars to the main event WrestleMania, so it's a big God damn it,
dude. These are the two most cursed chambers of all time. I
don't remember any of this. Weird. I don't think I ever saw this.
It never existed in my timeline, so it must be like an alternate
universe because I never saw Seamus is the W champion here. Yes, he
knocked Johnsen at through the table. I think if I recall and just pushed
him, they're supposed to double fall through tables, but his table didn't break,
so now he's enough. And then we got Johnson of course, Triple
H, Kofi Kingston, yes, Randy Orton and Ted DIBIASI Junior. The
other one's even like a little bit more crazier. What do you you got
to take the world one. Yeah, it's crazy going on. Yeah,
takers World Champion CM punk which I have no recollection of that. John Morrison
crazy our truth. Yes, Chris Jericho and raymus Stereo. So punk is
straight into society punk there, Okay, Jericho wins that chamber, Sina wins
the other one, by the way. Also on that elimination chamber card the
dark match, Christian beat Ezy Jackson for the ECW Do no, just beat
him for some reason. I don't know why, but yeah, dude,
five minute hype video for the goddamn Chamber. I was cut out a match,
a match or an ECW retrospective? Hello anything? No, they they
don't need anything but the chamber to sell this paper. Old us throwing Newjack
off a balcony. No, No, not at all. DJ Gabriel giants
swing to Saboo. We're back at commentary Josh Matthews and Byron Saxton talking about
NXC again. In the latest edition of The Cast, Christian will mentor Heath
Slater now Heath Slater is described as a walking rock band without the instruments.
Tony, He's just one man for a long time in his career. Yeah,
he dude, that's his whole career and uh, back to back attire.
That's crazy, that's insane. Three m B. He should I mean
listen, all three and Big got the world title except he Slater, So
I think it's time to bring that around. Bring it back around, baby
dude. That's crazy. Holy shit. And now we go to the ring
for the Christian town hall before his Easy B Championship match. Christian comes out
here with a big shopping car full of weapons. Uh, wearing the big
silver Easy to Be title. What do you think of the belt? Uh?
It was kind of cool. I think it was different. I don't.
I don't. I don't think I liked it, and I wanted to
like it just because I like everything E CW. But like I underst and
not keeping the original. I just think a gigantic only silver, like maybe
if the East To logo on it was a different color, it would have
looked better, like if they colored in the logo and maybe like colored in
like some of the other texts or something. But just gigantic silver on a
black strap. I did not like. Do you know it's all so weird
about it. I don't know if it's like this on other belts, but
it says world Wrestling Entertainment at the top. I think some of them did
at the time, Okay, And then I think the only reason I might
like it is because the graphic they have for it is like a giant flaming
bird and then it like morphs into the title. It rose from the ashes
Tony tribe of extreme Hasten from to now and yeah, yes, do you
remember that the Night of Champions that had the EW title on it? It
might have been the first Night of Champions that they had it with. Remember
the flags with the titles, Okaychampions like on the entrance way straight down.
They had to represent ec W one because e CW was on the show,
but either they didn't have the rights to the e CW title or something,
so they just put the Cruiser Right title and put the east W logo on
it. I see that, Yeah, dide Eastern Cruiser Right title. Yeah,
it's it's insane. It's the Cruise Right title with East Word Heavyweight che
from the OG belt. Yeah, that's crazy. What what is that?
Not the Champions two thousand and eight is what that one is? Yeah?
Nuts? Yeah, yeah, but like, yeah, I don't know.
I wasn't crazy about the big silver. I appreciate it just because it's you
know, it was a round and I liked I actually really liked Christians run
as the ECB champion. Yeah, I thought that was fun. The East
even if they went back to the O G. E c B title before,
like the Eastern one. Here I sent to you this one something like
this where like just the just give me the logo in some color, you
know what I mean? Wait, that was cool, that's yeah. They
were just trying to be different here, and that's all it was. Well,
they fucked it up Tony and other companies. The fucking whole brand's fucking
dead. He's coming through here with Christian. Let me tell you so.
Christian comes out very faint, easy to be chanting. Christian cuts a nice
promo, Harry. He says, it was a year ago that this week
that I debut on E CW. And I'm sure everybody knows that because I've
referenced it a million times in my life. The Todd Grisham it's it's Christian
debut. Uh. Which has Christian ever talked about that? I don't know.
Probably I would love to know what he thought used to well, Todd
Grisham commentates fucking dezone fights and ship so he's doing pretty okay. Christian said,
you know, when I came back to WWE, people thought maybe I
should have made a bigger impact somehow being on ECW was like a demotion.
They thought I never looked at it like that was a fucking demotion for sure.
Well, he never looked at it like that, or at least he
says so. Tony says, I've been in the business a long time,
and he said, to be to me feels like home. And he said,
to be giving me a chance and give me the ball. And I
ran with it and let me reconnect and compete against one of my oldest best
friends, Tommy Dreamer. And he also says, easy to be. Let
me mentor young and upcoming superstars like Yoshi Tatsu. He has a huge future,
all right. Yoshi Tatsu goes on to be very fucking hated. I'm
pretty sure like he goes to people fucking hate him there, So it doesn't
work out great for OL. Yeah, she taughts you and I got to
do most of it. Is easy to be champion. I stand before you,
my peeps the longest reigning current champion in w W E and tonight I
fight forever East to the originals. See this is where they should add fucking
all the boys line up in the front row, Raven and fucking Salmon and
Saboo and Jack and yeah they're chanting easy Dub and they're all high one last
time, getting to get the crack out for the boys. Let fucking Sabo
do a line off the barricade they should have done like a rocky Philly thing.
And he's running on the street with the easy W Originals. He goes
up the stairs, he smokes, and he's dancing. Don't want to lay
his dancing on top of the building, that'd be awesome. And he also
says tonight I fight for every young East to be superstar in the bag that's
trying to find their way. And then there's a real e CW chant which
I thought was cool, which might be the last ECB chant ever, uh
for I guess not because they chang ECW later in that, but I guess,
you know, for this show and the last official East W chant because
goes away after this, and Dreman says, tonight goes away forever, but
I will always be proud. I was a part of something great, and
I'll always be proud to say I was the very last e CW champion.
And his music hits again, and we go to commercial before our main event.
But just before our main event, Tony, we have to look at
another goddamn nxtve rookie. Of course we do. Of course we do.
Our next pro is see them Punk and he will be mentoring Darren Young.
Now all of the things you can think about Darren Young's career. Obviously,
he does a whole different gamemick after this, you know, the primetime players
and all that is way different. He's fucking he's a beast. Now,
he's fucking looking huge. Darren Young shouts out, no days off, no
days off with the arms or like that. But he's that was this whole
fucking thing, dude. But he's looking he looks fucking good. Still,
man, he's still running too. Yeah. But they and maybe maybe you
can remember mind me of this. Maybe somebody listening to this has a better
idea of whenever they displayed this. But they say Darren Young possesses an immeasurable
strength, When the fuck was Darren Young's gimmick ever anything to do with him
being strong. Wasn't he just a party boy? He was a party boy?
Yeah, and Punk hated him for it. That was the gimmick.
Yeah, exactly, Like where's this he was strong? Yeah, I don't
know, he's on U Japan's strong brother, Ain't that right? Shouts out
to Fred Ratzer shouts out. So now it's time for the final e c
W main events, the final e c W Championship match. Christian defends the
Big Silver against Ezekiel Jackson. Was Christian defends the East to Beach Championship against
Exzekiel Jackson, who is accompanied by William Regal in an extreme rules match.
This right here we call domination a combination skill and concentration for those occasion and
do something amazing because anything I do, I dominated, I dominated, I'm
stronger, go harder, I'm a monster. Great song until like three more
bars and then they just loop it forever. No fucking we call domination for
those that don't know. Ezekiel Jackson's theme is a guy wrapping over the bra
roll theme. It is that damn and you can watch us watching the entirety
of the braw Roll on Patreon. By the way, we did the cheap
plug tremendous Patreon not compilased. I like p check it out. It's the
best. But yeah, so on commentary Byron Saxon says that twenty six men
of held the East to be championship. He was lying, I'm not sure
what is going on here, So okay, there's two things here that I'm
confused about. Spoilers. Ezekiel Jackson wins the championship. Yere Okay, so
he would be the twenty eighth guy according to WWE because four people WB doesn't
recognize as easy tow champion, So there's actually thirty two EAC to B champions
in history, but they don't count Don Morocco, Johnny Hotbody, Tito Santana
or Jimmy Snook what Okay, But even then, even if you don't count
those, it's still twenty seven. So I'm not sure what happened there.
Yeah, yes, yeah, it says uh well, WA does not include
the Sandman's reign in history, and implication includes their description Salman as a five
time former champion, so they still listed as a five time former Saman.
If you go, if you're on Wikipedia, if you go all the way
down to combined rains that shows like the individual people that held it and like
for some there's just four that WB don't recognize, but I don't know why.
Crazy wow. Okay, so yeah, Final East to B title match.
They have a ton of notorious weapon pins here, as in trash cans
and Kendow sticks. That's all they have, but they have a lot of
them all over the place, like a million. They're shopping carts around the
ring with a trash can in it, a trash can lid, and multiple
Kendow sticks. Why we're like nothing else. So the match starts. Christian
bates Ezekiel Jackson throws him outside. Zach Ryder immedia. I thought he was
going to be involved in the finish. Now he's immediately out here jumping Christian
from behind. Goes ahead him with a trash can, but Christian cuts him
off. Christian flapjacks him onto the trash can and throws him outside, talking
about Chinoku style on his fucking face as Christian throws him out on this ring,
it was insane looking. Eventually, Rosa Mendez gets into the ring.
She's out here with zach Ryder and she slaps Christian in the face, which
leads to E CW general manager Tiffany feet out running Charles Robinson. Dude,
Charles Robin in WrestleMania style Tiffty running down to the ring. Here spears Rosa
Mendez Cay fight Fight Tivity throws Rosa Mendez face first into the canvas. She
takes a fucking crazy spike pump on her face. East w Chan for that.
By the way, I misber it, it was easy w J for
that. That was insane. I was like, what are you doing?
Zeke tries to run a shopping cart into Christian on the outside. Christian moves.
Christian then goes to spears Zeke. Zeke moves, and Christian goes head
first through the front of the shopping cart, which is a tremendous what the
fuck? I was the I've never seen that, and I don't think I've
seen that since then. That was crazy. Okay, So I remember it
one time, which was the raven Rhino bat Rhino yepes head first into it.
That's what they should have did here, and then fucking smokes cracked rocky
style rock styles it I did it. Ye uh. So we're back into
the ring here, fucking round with the trash can lead. Christian does that
spot where he teeter totters on the rope and kicks the trash can lid in
the Zeke's face. I thought that was cool. Zeke and Regal pull a
table off from under the ring, pop from the crowd. Christian baseball slides
it into them. I don't know if you saw real took all of that
fucking table and on his face. Yeah, and then fucking uh Zeke.
I think what Zeke did was like when the table hit me, like pushed
it forward, so then the other side swung over. He just got from
it. Was awesome. Yeah, that makes sense. Sure he did sell
kind of crazy, so that makes sense. Zeke looads Christian onto the top
rope, and then Christian and Zeke then start both very loudly calling spots.
I think Christian told him he set up that fucking table, dude, because
he goes to the top rope and then Zeke doesn't go the table's not set
on the tables do set up, and Chris like, go fucking set the
table just okay. Christian was fucking calling this entire match, alright, just
do it. And then Christian says, fucking set up the table broh the
table. Christian goes for a tornado DDT through the table. Zeke throws him
over the table and Christian lands on his feet. That was good. Christian
then starts attacking Zeke with a Singapore cane, and then he goes out of
the ring and chases after Regal. Did Christian hurt himself doing this because he's
limping? No, Christian hurt himself from over the table. Oh? Okay,
you hear? Oh that makes sense because, like you know, Christian's
he's smart, smart, Well, he's limping trying to chase Regal out of
the ringside area. He chases Regal up the ramp, goes back into the
ring. Zeke tries to cut him off with his own Singapore cane, but
Christian attacks his feet hit someone of the upper cut. Regal is back immediately,
by the way, he's too far. He fucking comes right back in
the ring, glombs Christian from behind, goes for the running Regal knee.
Christian counters with the kill switch and then gets up and then turns right into
Zeke, who hits him with the Book of the Zekiel to Christian to the
table. Do you remember him having a physical book? No? I do
not. I think he had a physical book when he was with Kendrick because
he managed gender dude. Yeah, that makes sense. He managed Kendrick and
he had a white shirt. I remember that vividly. So he hits the
Book of Ezekiel, which is a year and Aggie through the Table covers them
and Ezekiel Jackson is the final e c W champion. Yes, okay,
so I actually thought Ezekiel Jackson was sweet. I was a fan of Ezekiel
Jackson though. There was a time where I think him and Seamus faced each
other for the King of the Ring on Raw and I was at the show
and I was very excited because I was a big fan of both of those
guys. I don't know, I remember that so Zeke is ec to be
champion. I was cool with what I don't understand and have done it since
maybe they just didn't care. They didn't care about the brand or care about
combining with something. But I am kind of surprised they didn't just merge this
with another belt like Zeke doesn't bring it out ever. Again, I don't
think it's not like he defends it anywhere else. It's just he wins it
and then I think that's the end of the ec B title. But like
you know, they they love to do the combining it with like the Icy
title or something or yeah, but it turned in to the NXT title.
Oh, that would have been interesting. Or he could have just carried it
around and just like he just had it like Champions. You should have been
like mister e CW or some shit, and yeah, yeah, everyone's like
the brand is dead and he's like, no, I'm ECW. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, I guess, but I guess that just goes to
show how much they wanted to distance himself from the ECW shit, Like he
Vince wants to have saw that as like a legit, like if you're if
you're tied to ECW, like you're dead to me. Yeah, I think
so he was like, I'm fucking over it. I'm done with this brand.
We're moving on, we're going forward. And having Ezekiel win the belt
and posing with it now that means zero nothing. Yeah. I feel like
they should have at least given him like a title shot, like another brand
title shot or you know, he's signed to a brand or whatever, you
know, something something. So he in February on February nineteenth, they start
promoting that he's going to SmackDown. Then he makes his return on the March
fifth episode of SmackDown without Regal because Regal goes the Raw. And then in
April he tears his right quadrucep and he's out for six months, and then
he gets drafted to Raw. Okay. Then he's traded back to SmackDown in
December of the same year, and then he joins the Core who attacked the
Big Show all right, yeah, and then he eventually he wins the interconal
title. He gets hurt in mid twenty twelve, comes back in twenty thirteen,
and twenty fourteen, he's injured again. Then he gets released in April,
and then he fucking went to TNA. He's in Dixieland bro Holy Land,
clawd Holy fuck dude with goddamn right, Wow dixeland Wow Dude. I
forgot that entirely because I thought he goes right to Lucha Underground because he's Big
Rick and Lucha Underground with the goddamn Iye patch in the cigar. What'sna rock
Klan. I think that's his middle name for something. Wow Dixie Land sh
me for a Loopier. I did not I that's crazy. Oh dude,
Okay, So he June twenty fifth, he goes to TNA as Ryklon attacks
Tommy Dreamer bully rating devon a line stuff with Dixie Carter. It marked the
very first time that the final champion of the original e c W and the
new e c W were in the ring at the same time Rhino and Rai
clan and then he gets fired by Dixie a month later. They should unified
those bells. Dude, dude, they should Rhyino versus ray Klon for the
fucking the rights to the e c W title. Oh my god, dude,
they could have had the old NBA belt girl with whatever. I don't
know, fuck bro. That was crazy. Oh I can't wow. Due,
they did a missed opportunity. That's grossy what a missed opportunity? Man?
That's clucked up right? Uh? That is? It? Just blew
my mind? Will Zeke and Regal celebrate together and hold up the e c
W title And that's where I thought the show ended. But no, the
last well, the last okay, So the last thing you do see on
EW is Zeke and Regal posing on the ramp with the title. Yeah,
but the big thing to end the show is them announcing that our truth is
the pro for David o'tonka oha. Oh god damn it. Who's David o'tuga.
By the way, well, David o'tanga. His face may seem familiar
to you, Tony, because his fiance is Grammy an Academy Award winning actress
Jennifer Rodson. I knew David Otunga from I Love New York. I didn't
know him from Jennifer Rodson. How do you know I Love New York?
You didn't watch that show because I love I fucking watched the Flavor flav one
and then New York was fucking over a hell, so I had to watch
I Love New York. Then they said watch ECWW dot com. Also,
well, that doesn't fucking happen because he CW's dead. And the last thing
you see on EASTW programming is is Ezekiel Jackson and William Regal posing with the
ECB title to end the show. That is it. There is no more
EASTW ever ever again, which is surprising you. You know, usually you
know the title or something or anything, but no, there's no uh,
there's it's it's just gone the very dead and it still has been dead for
almost fourteen years now. They squeezed all the money they could out of that
and that's it for them. Moving on. Yeah, yeah, they moving
on. They did, Tony. This was I mean two matches on the
show, Uh, two matches in an hour, two matches in the Abraham
Washington Show. Yeah, I mean like kind of crazy that they couldn't do
a Battle Royal with Sabu No no, no, sorry, no time,
no Rhino no right no, uh not even Blue Meani. Blue Meani was
busy, Stevie, Steve Richard's busy. He was busy. I'm not saying
these guys are busy. Okay. Actually, well everybody's for year. They're
all free agents now because he's all free agents. Tony, Well, that
is it for the final episode of e c W R I P e c
W and the only thing we have left I get I want How okay,
how long after this is uh the TNA Show? Then Hardcore Justice is in
August of the same year. Wow, Okay, so six months after East
w dies, TNA does the W show. They resurrected and then they bring
it back and ev two. So it's but it is crazy to think of
how many reincarnations of ECW within WWE and outside of w W there have been.
I mean, like, and how few of WW there have been.
Dude, you're right, there's never going to be a W like all never,
You're not gonna have it. I feel like, you know what I
think. I feel like the reunions of ECW have been longer than the east
W actually lasted, which is great. There's more and redos of remembering ECW
than actually and there was actual W shows. Yeah. Crazy, that's insane.
But as a boy that grew up an e CW fan, this is
this show meant nothing to me, but it's still, you know, interesting
to see the final ECW show. Legally, I guess fond memories of w
ECW never forget big show. Don't question my heart. I'm not questioning it.
Well, that was it for WWE ECW February sixteen, twenty ten,
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