Karl-Anthony Towns on Knicks offseason, Wolves & NBA journey, Dominican pride

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Speaker 1: When I was younger, it was always the chase of like every young artist who bring up the bag the money balling out, like I'm not fulfilled by that. In New York, I always talk about it. It's the greatest currency you can get in New York.

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Speaker 2: Dis Respect.

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Speaker 3: It's so San Antonio, Dianah, ship boy, Jada man. You know what it is that Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. You never know who's gonna come sit on the blue couch. You know, I'm I'm basketball to the death, so is my brother.

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for New York Knicks, Oh New Jersey's, Oh call it any towns.

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Speaker 5: Show me he got on special breeding. It's a special breeding.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: My godfather was Dominican. No, sir, what do you want me to do? I gotta get a porter potty back. I can't even make it to the bathroom now.

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Speaker 2: Saw. My godfather is a great man. My father was a great man.

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Speaker 6: Recipes, but my godfather he filled in wherever my mom. My father didn't took me places and the Yankee games, and and this ship took me to museums, and he lived indictment, and that's how it became real tight with the Dominican culture. The only thing I hated. They used to make me eat the red on the beats. Oh what they call that in Spanish? That it's even funniest Spanish, the beat salad. Dominicans eat the beat salad the red.

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Speaker 2: I ain't never had that ship for you.

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Speaker 4: Beach is good ship like poison. Man, that's pets talk to him and beat is good beats.

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Speaker 2: It's spented. My they have some shit, man, yo. That man used to force me just to damn near karate eat that ship. He's a great man. So I always love Dominicans. Man outside.

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Speaker 4: Oh call Anthony town Shirtski. We had your brother on recently. We this interviewed your big Blue Nation brother, John Wall. It was a great interview. Checked that out. No, I love ball, so I gotta love basketball. No flags, I love him from basketball to the heart. I'm gonna ask you. You can tell me to stop anytime. I'm just gonna act you man ship nah No uh thirty eight and one with a Final four appearance one season Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: How was your experience? How was coach cal how was the royalty? What was going on on campus. Let me know some of these things.

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Speaker 1: That's special. That place is special. It's it's crazy. I haven't had that kind of experience with the fans appreciating game of basketball that way until really I got here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Was great. But just the energy the city has for the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, I grew up here and just noticing on all that stuff, and I said it before, you know, playing and you work with the Gauchos gym and everything and always being around playing a rocket Park two and everything. It's it was crazy to be able to kind of relive that kind of energy basketball again. And I haven't had that kind of experiences until I got here.

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Speaker 4: John Woolso said he brought to our attention to college basketball when dormant a little, it lost its fluidity a little.

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Speaker 2: To Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: Cal started rolling y'all out like y'all was celevities, like y'all was real. People was running home, catch the games. You don't want to miss, no games, no tournamented. He made y'all it's like he everlutionized what was going on with the Fab.

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Speaker 2: Five, and they they kind of paved the way.

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Speaker 4: But when y'all got there, y'all was y'all was like an NBA team now in college, what is that like?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we fell out rock stars there.

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Speaker 1: You know, everywhere we went, you know, people noticed who we were and then if he was the number one guy on the team or he was at the end of the bench, everyone was was rock stars and you know the crazy stories being there. I'm just seeing how the fans and interactions went, you know, March Midnight nine, this was was something like a movie.

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Speaker 2: So it was it was.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy to have those kind of moments, and especially with a team like that, you know, such a historical team. Cole always told us, make sure we enjoy these moments because you'll never have that much talent in one room for basketball ever.

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Speaker 6: Again, that's crazy because you made John Watson said, the cow told him, you know, make sure you take God.

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Speaker 2: It was different for us. I mean, we had nine draft picks, you know, I think.

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Speaker 4: We had they had five five five first none.

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Speaker 2: He was like, yo, make sure you take some guys with you.

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Speaker 1: And the people who didn't even go to the NBA on our team that year ended up going to the NBA the.

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Speaker 2: Next next year.

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Speaker 6: So he's really I mean that's real, dang man' that's a dream come true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean special, I mean like he said, it's true.

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Speaker 1: That was that that that was a key lesson for me, like in life and even for last year too with our team. Just stay in the president, enjoy this moment, you know, don't worry about the future, don't worry about what everything that could come with the situation. Just enjoy being in the present because you're never going to get these moments back. You may never be in the same room again with you guys.

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Speaker 2: He was young. Did you understand exactly what he did? Because I did. I was young. I didn't understand that, you know what. I was fortunate.

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Speaker 1: I had experiences that had already told me to experience to enjoy life from the president all with you know, my uncle passing away and little things in life that you know, they just teach you. You know, it humbles you, it gives you experience, It makes you understand certain things. When you were younger, you think you know everything, and you obviously you get older and you're like, that was I think, you know, so I had those moments already in life where appreciating the present was a big key for me.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's even like that now, right, Like I got a friend of mine who doesn't need my advice. It's got more money than me, more success than everything. But I felt like I had to tell him some yeah, and that that's really really hard. Even with the young kids. Right with the young rappers. People be like, yo, why don't you pull a young I'm like, he got a young kid. There was the odds was one out of every twenty million.

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Speaker 2: He's rich.

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Speaker 6: Now he made it happen. How the hell I'm gonna tell him any what to do, let alone another legend. Yeah, but I felt like I wasn't keeping it real if I didn't say it down and tell them, Yo, look, tell you something.

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Speaker 2: I want you to get mad at me. I want just to mess up our relationship.

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Speaker 6: But if you don't see what I'm telling you now, in five years you'll understand.

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Speaker 2: Because it happened to me. People try to tell me stuff. I'm like, Yo, what what they talking about?

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Speaker 3: That?

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Speaker 6: Five years later, I'm sitting on a couch somewhere and I said, damn, they try to put me on and I was in the way of myself.

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Speaker 2: So it's just so.

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Speaker 6: Hard to be in the moment and be present because sometimes when you overcome so many odds, like you know, you fucking you know, you can't like who's going to be able to.

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Speaker 2: Tell you something?

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Speaker 1: Nah, you know, you got to listen to the legends, man, yea, y'all, y'all hip hop and culture y'all, y'all paved the way for these, you know, the new guys to be able to wrap that way, to be able to move that way, to be able to wear the clothes they wear and stuff. So it's like you got to always listen to the legends. And for me in basketball, you know, you know, KG was my vet.

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Speaker 2: You get into that, you know, you do with my vet.

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Speaker 1: So I came into the NBA with already have playing with alhor front, Dominican team, the Dominican national team and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But then now you're going with you had that bombed ahead of time.

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Speaker 1: I have more of the old school mentality of approaching work. You know, like you'd be the first one in the gym, last one to lead. But in that time, it's about the quality. It's not not about just being able to say that you know people, you know you would be the first ones in the gym to do nothing until practice and then after price leave, so you know, like actually utilizing that time, enjoy weightlifting, enjoying you know, understanding diet, understanding like how to move as a professional, how to communicate with people you know. Never one of the things with KG was like calling everyone by their name, understanding the ref's names, you know, like, you know, treating men like men. You know, now I feel like you better than anybody, and stuff like that. And he taught me a lot.

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Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen drafted number one. Overall, we're gonna take it back a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit to the Miami will now, man, that sounds crazy.

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Speaker 2: Years blessed decade. I'm yeah, I'm blessed. He told me too.

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Speaker 1: He's like, you're gonna blink five years, gonna go why You're gonna blink again. You're gonna be ten years, blink again. You gonna be like, why the hell am I.

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Speaker 2: Still doing that? So that's what they said, That's.

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Speaker 4: What That's what he told you. How did they feel you got drafted? Yeah, they go, this was always wanted to know you gotta go. Next morning, you gotta go. Yeah, yeah, next morning drafted. You drafted number one.

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Speaker 1: Whatever I had had the after party for the draft at the Knickerbocker. And then next morning I was out about from uh was it Farmingdale? Left from Farmingdale straight to Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is going to see the Minnesota. You will know.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, there's no fluidity in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Boy, it's cold. Its fuck on minus twenty seven some days.

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Speaker 6: This guy, Stephan Maulbury used to cry out there. He wanted to get you. Yeah, probably could have won chips out there. He just got out of it. He couldn't hen was gonna quit the lead or you know, he didn't want to be in Minnesota, and Minnesota got great people and great man.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't used to it. Sometimes they drive underground sometimes it's so fucking cold or something.

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Speaker 1: Oh like in Minnesota, like for instance, downtown they got like skyways you don't actually have to walk outside, or like for Downtown, the streets under it is under the concrete. It's hot water circulated to help with the icey bitch, What do you have to do when you first get this is it? Basically the meet see the facility right when you when you land When I landed there, guy in the car went straight down to.

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Speaker 2: Target Center.

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Speaker 1: But it was Lows and had your press conference introducing yourself to the fans, so it was it's immediate right away.

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Speaker 2: I had a bad running with that.

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Speaker 6: They have me introduced Kember and the other guy he's called two points and ship the nicksas like, we want you to introduce welcome them up to the Knicks and welcome up motherfucker they sh.

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Speaker 2: We want you to introduce some Yo.

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Speaker 6: We got Kimba Walker, we got who was it forty eight something to both of them, may do ship.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there.

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Speaker 6: There like, yo, we're so happy that kim Many Kimber, you don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that. We just have a round Kimball I did though both of them quarter the ball too though. Really he was chass state. Whoa, there was a little he was banged.

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Speaker 4: Up, kimble Walker poor injury, yes, yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we gotta make some shirts, you joke, yo, We're Kimber was hurt there.

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Speaker 1: He got some injuries, yeah, some veament. That's not that's not better than there's nothing better in watching him and you call the east Man kill he killed. I remember remember that I was back, Oh my god, against Pittsburgh too.

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Speaker 2: Was that old run though.

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Speaker 6: Last year that three point you said, whoa Whoa said, I got a classic pick. I put up with you and Spike right after that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, I'm trying to to your tom.

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Speaker 2: It's at my house. Load your tom. It was, it's in my house right now. Spikes, you could tweet you got that I do. That was a legendary pick. Yeah, I definitely.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny because I feel like rewatching that and you see me like in that mold just aggression and just I was talking.

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Speaker 6: I was like, you had to spurring off off you you burn that ship back, you do that ship you dish you ran to the fucking bitch.

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Speaker 2: You was like yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, like I was losing my my mam da learning.

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Speaker 2: I laughed.

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Speaker 1: I laughed because I thought when his basketball I laughed because I was talking about it. Actually before I just came to the podcast, I was saying, how what he was I thinking? Because before that was the turnaround fade away going out of bounds, and I said, you take one bad shot to go come bound it with the worst shot, and for me in that moment, those felt like I was wide open.

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Speaker 2: So basket was this big. Yeah, I was. I felt that I had a good good look. You guys have to do that. That was that kind of man.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to win, Man, we need to do win. I was, I was planning. I was never playing to lose that game. That was so I was not going to allow that to happen.

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Speaker 4: He played all eighty two games the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen season, averaging eighteen point three points tenth and a half reband not a bad record year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, that's just that's damn Greek numbers. Is a rookie. Yeah, what was it? What was it like? And when was KD What kind of crazy shit? Waskg? KG was going crazy? Man, he's that was.

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Speaker 1: I was with him on the team when he did the when you call the Eric Gordon trash, I was if I was with it, I was on the on that one.

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Speaker 2: KG don't give a fuck. I love that. You don't bring him up enough.

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Speaker 6: As one of the tough guys in the NBA. KG was tough. I mean like he didn't give a fuck.

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Speaker 2: Nah, Like you know what's cool about him too? Punch your wrap in the face. No, I'm telling you who who he went out of way.

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Speaker 6: I think I think they almost thought he was told them some crazy ship.

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Speaker 2: KG to k k K. He's yeah, a lot of put your right, you motherfuck, he said. He didn't even he know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: He said, before you even remember, he just don't bottom with yourn't don't even go down that for don't let your mind remind you that.

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Speaker 2: Was ugly one.

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Speaker 6: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Kg's different, man, He's different.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, well, I was appreciating us like his energy, you know it. It went through the whole locker room, just like the way he approached the game, the way he you know, he played with so much passion, and it was cool to have something like that.

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Speaker 2: Who's that now? Who's that on the Knicks? Now? That got that?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 2: Last year?

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Speaker 6: I don't think y'all got him this year. Last year I seen, you know, our coach at the brucker. You know what, it takes a special qualification. Hey, I want everyone on camera understand. Everyone behind the camera said, Yo, listen, it's hard to win them chips at the rucker butt. It takes a special it's almost a spiritual to wake everybody up and get everybody to.

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Speaker 2: Win a championship. It takes it. I seen PJ.

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Speaker 6: Tucker trying that last year on the bench, like let's go.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was who's the guy on on the Knicks now currently that uh like let's go.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like DJ was great for us last year and like you said, you saw him contribute to us. You know, I think he's like a twenty years in NBA. You know, I'm hoping that we get to see him in the NBA this year as well. You know, you know I says a team haven't got a chance to get together. Yeah, so I'm yeah, you know what I'm trying to say to see where the vibes are at. So I think that right now, you know, everyone's working on their game to bring their best version to the table so that we I like getting Africa CHAMPI that just got African.

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Speaker 2: He's not he is Africa.

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Speaker 6: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I'll let me tell you even pick a flag. He's from Africa. We gotta get you a list. Can you google where he really from? Is he from?

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Speaker 4: Not?

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Speaker 2: Jerry Man? I just told you I love the guy. I'm a fucking huge fan. You love him? No where he's from he's not all right?

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Speaker 6: Can you can you cook? He's Dominican. No, not the big African flax for that from the France. He's Dominican. You got another Dominican on the team. Did you know that ship? You got the wrong guy? No, you Kersehawn. He's Dominican. We gotta get him a list.

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Speaker 2: Play that shit again. Keeps describing people by.

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Speaker 6: Y'all my mail or my mail and my man. You know what I expected, man from you. I got to tell you right now what you need to do. I think I think you. I'm not telling you what to do with your money, right, but you should have like a foundation to sum a bunch of Dominicans every game, and they playing the fucking music up on the stairs, don't my male, my man man, and he's just going crazy.

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Speaker 2: It should be to.

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Speaker 6: Call as the next I expected that swear to God, like just me being a fan.

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Speaker 2: You know, I grew up Washington night, so I know how you get down.

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Speaker 6: So I thought you was gonna have like they was gonna have a section up there like yo.

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Speaker 4: He yah, all the fucking family's immigrated from the car He's from the Congo.

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Speaker 2: Always Dominican played sot.

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Speaker 6: He's saying, there, I know the guys from Africa.

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Speaker 2: Bro, Why are you trying to fake me out like that? Man? Everybody from Mafic. Yes, I fucking kiss you think it's crazy with this ship? Well? I love this. This this is a great podcast. How does clocks and oh you actually ship? He just told you they didn't they working?

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Speaker 6: What are you thinking in your mind? But like, because he's just gonna pure score.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for Shure, some of the bitch we need.

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Speaker 1: You always need firepower and to expect I think as as fans it's going to be. It's as players just you have to understand you need firepower because you never know what's gonna in the air. You know, you never know who's going to be healthy, you never know what's going to happen. But if always you got a backup plan and you got people who are just as willing to start as anybody. I think that's what's going to make a special You know, you got to you gotta be able to have those people. Like if you look at championship teams, you know it's most of some of the times it's the ones that win you the championship are not the starting five it's that guy on the bench of Sean Livingston's Swaine.

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Speaker 6: You got a hell of a team over there, Andre, you got a hell of a team in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this room is whole. Let me get because you Yo then tweak out. You take the damn listen to this. Let's cut the foot.

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Speaker 4: You've got long history with tips for Minnesota all the way over here.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Hey, something that I love? When people asked me that and I said, boy, I've only been here six months. What you want me to say? But I just talked to Tim. He's good. We just we had dinner and everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's politics, and ain't always see anything to play, no, because in the in the music industry, if something happens with the executive, I don't have no fucking I did.

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Speaker 1: I've been here, I was here six months. I have no I was with my mans and Tims is my man's too. Each his own body.

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Speaker 2: Patrol, that's patrol with It's like Pete and we knew your off Listen. We just want to know. We very concerned. You see your na.

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Speaker 1: But shout out to him though, you know, like obviously I was in Minnesota before I got here, But like watching him.

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Speaker 2: Just mean I met him before. What are we doing?

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Speaker 6: I definitely bring him up here. Hello, Yeah, I know that's a good one. Tims was in my house before I was in my house. You see, I'm building what's your fean by that before you was in your house with the both the geist is going on world wide. West lives across the street from my house. As I was building my house, I wasn't. I didn't even live there yet. Fucking West gave Tims a twelve my house. Yo, Joe's gonna put the marble bar here. He's couldna just Tim said, Yo, you better watch your neighbors. This man that took me in your house building the blue showed them the blueprints.

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Speaker 2: Yo.

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Speaker 6: This this is where we're gonna have fool parties and just not man.

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Speaker 2: Let me say, coach Timms, amazing job, amazing job with the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Tims came to New York, change the culture, the whole broad New York back to winning culture.

00:21:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got to the Eastern Comms Finals last year.

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Speaker 1: And that's not just the players, that's that's that's a testament to the coaching staff, Dorothy put In, and you got to give credit all around to that. Those guys, you know, they put the work in and they got us in a position and gave us a chance to succeed. So Tims, Tims are special. I think anyone who knows basketball knows he's special. I got nothing with that For sim sims Man, I'm definitely.

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Speaker 2: You don't smile with nobody, and I fits to smiling with him. He with the coach, No, I'm I used to love sitting and watching them sit there and flip.

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Speaker 6: Talking fuck's people walking back and forth, cursing himself out in.

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Speaker 1: The side, Yo, crazy, I love I love tips Man, And you know it's like you have any experience for coach Brown or not.

00:22:21
Speaker 2: We ain't starting, you haven't, not yet, not yet. So but I'm excited to get to work.

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Speaker 1: You know, basketball is fun, you know, it's I know I say work and I say job, but it really it's when you having fun and you're passionate. I think both of y'all know his legendsy I haven't fun and passionate writing and making music and touring and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like work. It feels like a blessing. You know.

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Speaker 6: He's almost like a fucking Cinderella season for y'all now you know, and no, and with no disrespect, A lot of major guys got injured.

00:22:52
Speaker 2: So you got Halliburton injured, the Star of Indiana Tatum, you got Tatum injured, the Stars injured and traded Alston turned up. I've never seen no ship like this. They don't want to trade it. The whole team.

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Speaker 1: Bazilien is in Atlanta, Alfred is out, Drew Horford out nor No, Horford's there, he's still there.

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Speaker 2: They kept him. Yeah, Horford's still there. Drew Holliday, uh, and he got rid of the big guy Brazilians in Atlanta. No.

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Speaker 1: The other thing Cornett, Yeah it's Cornet, but he's in Cordnet to the Spars or somewhere. So I would when that happened, I know, I know, but I don't know if they signed him back. You're already all four days ago. You call the African guy, Dominican New y right now, he's going to this, He's going to the Golden State.

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Speaker 2: You want to go to say it.

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Speaker 8: That's a major pictation Dominican man during the NBA is and heid.

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Speaker 1: You know, I.

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Speaker 6: Understood why like playing young players don't abuse the older guys, like like like what.

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Speaker 2: Again, yo? Know? I mean like to me, I can't move like I moved and I was twenty years old.

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Speaker 6: I don't care how talented and older player is your Oh step, you gotta stop me. I can't move like I moved twenty years ago. So like a guy like you with no disrespect, like I would think you should just go to the rack on our housit or they they're just in possible. I gotta genetically, huh. I gotta step in because I can't get fined and none of that. They was you the playoffs. They was felling the hell out of you.

00:24:51
Speaker 2: Dog. This is last whole season.

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Speaker 4: I don't know it was they was it was there was man because he came to the city and you had the O but you got they missed a lot of he was getting pushed off you.

00:25:08
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah, a large human beings, so you could take a regular. He's extraordinary. He's an NBA peck.

00:25:21
Speaker 3: The serial Glissard days like yo.

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00:28:32
Speaker 6: I was gonna ask you a question right then he cut me off because he was sticking to the script.

00:28:37
Speaker 2: Then he lost his mind too. The question is you in Minnesota?

00:28:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was already hearing rumors that you coming to the next So is back when Donovan Mitchell was coming to the Knicks, I already heard called Anthony Tael right, yeah, and so you in Minnesota and this is home?

00:28:57
Speaker 2: Right, At any point you say yourself, holy.

00:29:00
Speaker 6: Ship, I might be coming to the next and you're seeing what they're doing, and you are you saying like, yo, I'll fit in.

00:29:07
Speaker 2: I did? Did this be crazy? I would?

00:29:14
Speaker 1: I would be lying if I said I didn't see the rumors and and know that there could be truth to them. So the the idea of coming back home playing for It's well documented my favorite team growing up to watch. My dad had a quick and early stint with the with the organization back in the Patrick Hewing days, so it was kind of like.

00:29:39
Speaker 2: The dad's the coolest. He shish man. He loves he loves you all the time.

00:29:45
Speaker 1: Oh, he'd be there like yo, yeah, I already know he's gonna be so happy with this podcasting.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: That's what you should have brought me.

00:29:53
Speaker 1: His dad was his birthday was yesterday, so it's gonna be your dad's birthday was good birthday?

00:29:59
Speaker 6: Rich player's birthday was yesterday? To your girlfriend? Yeah, very classy, young lady. Uh it's fashion week and she posted that she got a clothing line. Yeah yeah yeah on the bill. Yeah yeah yeah.

00:30:14
Speaker 2: Ship is great.

00:30:15
Speaker 6: I can't do like Snoop, like like Snoop crushing the buildings. But that's what that's what I came home to.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: That's what my daughter. You know, they doing this fashion.

00:30:25
Speaker 4: Week ship bigger than fashion he'd be having. He told that ship on too. He is the most fashionable NBA player ever, Honey? Could he say that she ain't get fresh?

00:30:39
Speaker 2: But you made him ever? He made him of all times? Do you think the most fashionable like doctor j Doctor j come through with that ship on cash Man with.

00:30:50
Speaker 1: The most iconic pictures. Lord, where was that Joe naming with that first? I think for me basketball wise or fashionable? I think one of the most iconic photos of seeing Alan Irison's mom doing his corn rolls on the bench spot that we.

00:31:08
Speaker 4: Was there for all that magic? Did it before Broadway? Joe Withe with Michael Jackson and all women? What about that flick magic crazy? That flick with your name is Baldi?

00:31:18
Speaker 2: Ship for mex might have? Might have? He definitely did flag in the back, passed me the flag man. What you think man? Ship? We did four podcasts in three days and ship we've been there.

00:31:35
Speaker 6: You go, the biggest ship, your wife, we've been Because you know, I'm very competitive.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if I get it and I got into the podcast world and be number one, we want to be number one. You want to be the best past I mean, but that's what That's how y'all became legends. Ask what y'all do. Yeah, I didn't stop at being good. It was like, I want to be great. I want to be all time.

00:31:56
Speaker 6: That's and we got a new job it's called podcast and boy were giving them. Hell, we've been having a good time up here, bro. And uh now y'all y'all taking over the podcast world. So shout out to y'all. But y'all, I expect nothing less from y'all. Let's keeping on the court. You you consider yourself the best big man three point shooter? You won that won You actually won the three points?

00:32:20
Speaker 2: Do you have yes? No, for sure, without a doubt.

00:32:24
Speaker 6: You know, I went on Mellow Show Yeah and said, you're the greatest offensive big man in the in the league of this time, and I caught a lot of like I was like arguing with the whole set. And you know, the Joker's dad nights. What do you think about the Joker like when you look at his style of play with what makes them great and different Hall of Fame touch.

00:32:48
Speaker 1: Around the basket, being able to right right hand hook, left hand hook off the backboard, slows.

00:32:54
Speaker 2: The game, closed the game down. You know he played. You know, I feel like I know old basketball, so like you know him his ability to control pace. He controls the team's pace.

00:33:05
Speaker 1: You know, John Wall what made him great when he became an All Star was with his ability to change pace. When he stopped going one hundred and fifty miles per hour, and he wanted to go one fifty, to go to twenty miles, to go to one twenty, to go to eight. You know, I'm trying so changing a pace. Joker just he got a Hall of Fame touchy, He's extremely smart. His IQ's through the roof. He's able to pass, he's able to control the pace. The offensive scheme works with his greatest strengths. And he has teammates that believe in him. He has a coaching staff that believes in the organization that believes in him. They put him in a position to succeed. And and he deserves that kind of respect because he put the work and he's shown the world.

00:33:45
Speaker 2: That he could do this on a nightly basis. Man shot out to Joker. Man. I mean he's he's rightfully got those MVPs. He deserves them.

00:33:52
Speaker 6: Fact, you know what you I went to one game and I watched you at least at least I don't want to exaggerate, but I think the numbers I counted was like ten different moves this, yeah, three fad this that, this.

00:34:13
Speaker 2: You got somebody like, what's my man? Dontavincould do the same? He great at it.

00:34:18
Speaker 6: Yeah, he got that one move right, Mellow had that one fade away, that step had a triple threa. I was one of the best ever. No, no, no, no, but he really had that Yeah that Stephan. No, it's lethal, That's what I'm saying. But I watched this man. The reason why I made that statement on Mellow is I've been watching basketball a long time. I've never seen nobody have that variety of offense as a big man as you.

00:34:49
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. So I'm sitting on the sideline with Tracy Morgan. You know, he's a bug out.

00:34:54
Speaker 7: He's a Tracy been talking to me about the next for how long? No, that boy's a tweaker, SI whatever. We need Tracy Morgan on here. Because the man said what I said. He looked like a oh yeah yeah yo yo yo yo, he just.

00:35:09
Speaker 2: Yo, he says, so.

00:35:11
Speaker 6: But I've seen you bought so many moves that I was just like, yo, this guy's like really is unstoppable.

00:35:17
Speaker 2: Because people always got one move, maybe two moves. You got so many different man, you got a bag. I'm a reactive player.

00:35:25
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in Jersey playing in the parks, like I said, coming to New York, playing in a Rucker part Gaucho's. You play with older kids, You're you're always like you're fifteen. You're playing you're seventeen.

00:35:35
Speaker 2: You know you're playing. I was even younger than that, I was playing you sixteen, you're seventeen. You know.

00:35:40
Speaker 1: My dad and I always believed, you know, if you want to be the best, you got to go against the best. And when I was younger, never accept being good like y'all, always want to chase greatness. So uh, you know, I wanted the best competition I could find in try state, and I wanted to test my skills every single week.

00:35:55
Speaker 6: And that who you saw a plate? You ever watched like a Kobe game or something like that, Like me, we to watch wrestles, wrestlingnes no attitude and all. Yeah with you doing that like going out in the snow, Kobe fade away, like like who is a who was a player that you was?

00:36:15
Speaker 2: You know? I say, you know people.

00:36:17
Speaker 1: I was having this conversation the other day too. I love that I get to talk about my life a little bit. But I was having this conversation funny enough with my girl, and I was saying, you know, sometimes in life you get lucky. Sometimes does God given, and sometimes you just work so hard that you just garner that skill. And some for some fortunate people, they get all three and they be able to have that mindset, God and luck on their side. And I was telling her, I said, for me, I think I really had in a way all three coincided with my career. But I really believe that it was really two things. The two that I got, really that I had in my possession was luck. And I worked so hard to be this good and to find a way to be great at my craft that I just had no option other than the plan as plan a go for NBA player. But my luck came from my father because my father was a high school coach, and one of the hardest things to do when you're young and you're broke is to have a gym, and my dad being a high school coach, I had keys to a hardwood floor that was great, not like a like a hardwood floor that was like, okay, I'm talking about a really good hardwood floor playing basketball. So I had somewhere to work on my craft.

00:37:39
Speaker 9: And I had a father that also was athletic and agile enough and talented enough, like I said, where he was able to rebound for me and also understand what I truly needed to do and.

00:37:52
Speaker 1: For me with the work aspect, you know, I had to show up, you know, as a young kid too. I had to dedicate my childhood, my whole childhood, like all the things the kids got to do and stuff and experience. I ain't get that chance because I was in the gym and I was working sacrifice, you know, and I was.

00:38:07
Speaker 2: Willing to do that.

00:38:08
Speaker 1: And at an early age, I remember even thinking about that, like, you know, maybe I want to go to that you know that party obviously younger like party at whatever, maybe trying to you don't want to go to the park more hang out with my friends. I was, you know, I was in the generation and still you know, someone was home unless the bike was in front, you know.

00:38:26
Speaker 2: So I was still in that generation.

00:38:28
Speaker 1: So I dedicated my childhood to being great at sports and basketball and baseball was my love the basketball, and.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: To have a more little core.

00:38:38
Speaker 1: I feel that that gave me a huge advantage on the competition, and it allowed me to work on all these moves. And I was riding back to the library looking at getting the VHS is, putting it the VHS in and watching you know, the great uh play chem Olaji.

00:38:51
Speaker 2: Want to getting to see you know, KG, getting to see Sam Perkins.

00:38:56
Speaker 1: For me, you know, I was looking back into day Eddie Jones and Gary Payton and Pistol p and like just Magic Johnson of course. So it was like one of those things where I dedicate my childhood to studying the game, you know, being part of the culture.

00:39:12
Speaker 2: I'm very similar.

00:39:13
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to put myself on your level, but like this guy was boring a rapper.

00:39:18
Speaker 2: Look, I don't think if you ain't rap, what you was gonna do? I mean, one of the best layers. What are you gonna do? Say him?

00:39:25
Speaker 1: Eminem jay z Pun. These guys was born with this ship, right, I had to shout out a pun too.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: I would have been.

00:39:35
Speaker 6: Best, but I had to practice. And then it was a time where we was the hottest dudes in the world. I mean the hottest dude.

00:39:43
Speaker 2: I mean I was here. I was the one my mom would tell me, go get the radio, put the radio on, and you see what I'm saying. And we and Pun, who I signed. He was my student. I brought him in the game. He taught me how to rap better.

00:39:55
Speaker 6: And it's summertime and they pulling up in the benzes in the trucks and they're like Yo, it's popping be yo over here. This is that point, be like fuck that, we gotta write. Yeah, you gotta work on your shit. And it's summertime, ninety something degrees and they pulling up yo's.

00:40:11
Speaker 2: We're gonna pull up on your beach.

00:40:13
Speaker 6: Yo is out there this and not ship ringing number one on the radio, and pombers like, nah, fuck that, we're gonna stay here. You gotta you gotta get better, bro, you gotta get nice. You gotta get this and this and that and that was a big yo. So many summers I sacrificed, you know, instead of going outside and join Like when you get a hit, like this is the difference between maybe basketball and rap. Like when you get a hit, everybody's fraying for hit. You get a hit, you go get the bag. You're even promoting that hit till it becomes a hit, and then once it's a hit, you go get the bag. You can't stand in your neighbor. You can't go to dyping and be like meaning back and watch the crowd.

00:40:54
Speaker 2: It work like that.

00:40:56
Speaker 6: You're busy going to get the check performing all over. We don't get same with you. You don't get that rush. You don't get to stand there. You can't go to York because it be like, yeah, you're too busy running around the world.

00:41:10
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

00:41:11
Speaker 1: I was, I was talking to my girl yesterday about this, because you know, shout out to her again. She had her She had her New York Fashion Week event here in New York at the Knickerbocker. The photo shoot was fly Yeah. Nah she I'm super proud of her all the time. And I was telling her, I'm proud of her, and I told her she had her event. Early in the day, I went to work, I do you know, took care of business, went to the event and I told her, I said, I want you to enjoy today. Enjoy the winds because the winds are short lived and the losses they last for a long time.

00:41:39
Speaker 2: And I was telling her. She was like, what you mean.

00:41:40
Speaker 1: I was like, let's put her just an example for me in my life. We beat Boston. New York's going crazy. The excitement that has never been through the roof, never been like that in twenty five years.

00:41:52
Speaker 10: And police was letting them climb. The police man. Police was trying to do their job. They said, he don't let jump out. Fans celebrate, and they're not wrong. New York's not wrong. Twenty five years you're supposed to have these celebrations. You're supposed to, you know, learn for these.

00:42:08
Speaker 2: Moments, though, no, no, go go have fun. This is the moment.

00:42:12
Speaker 4: This is what we work for. We worked so the fans to have moments. That ship was like a dream coming. But literally, anybody, it's the world against New York. So they was so let New York have a moment of celebration. They deserve it, man. And I was what I'm going back to the point was saying that when we won. You know, of course it was late night when we won, obviously, so you have that night. You know, the team got together documenting we want. We went and celebrated as a team with each other. But you know, you got four hours we celebrate. Great job, but tomorrow it's back to work. But the win is four hours lived.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's that's the worst part of the playoff, you know what I'm trying to say, So it's not hours.

00:42:53
Speaker 2: I was. I was in Dubaib when you're lost. That ship was dating.

00:42:57
Speaker 1: So here we go get to that point. Four hours to celebrate that win. We right back to work tomorrow. Indiana playbook book. You know Tivs is a is a you know, he studies.

00:43:08
Speaker 2: You know, it's like that.

00:43:09
Speaker 1: So we get these books. These they write this, this tall they talk about yo. You know this play that play, this play that play. We're getting quiz and stuff. So it's full hours. You right back to the next, to the next, to the next job. I said, but when we lost in Indiana, drag six months. Now we wait until September twenty second to go get back together to try to remedy the mistake.

00:43:31
Speaker 2: You know.

00:43:31
Speaker 1: So I was telling her, enjoy these moments and these wins, because the winds are short lived and the losses last a long time.

00:43:39
Speaker 2: I mean, we're the New York next.

00:43:40
Speaker 6: Everyone every game is the championship, especially if you're playing at the Garden, because everybody, we just John wore everybody.

00:43:48
Speaker 2: You know how many you know how many NBA players.

00:43:51
Speaker 6: I went to they house and they got the post up when they dropped forty six against the Knicks for them, I'm like, yo.

00:43:56
Speaker 2: You couldn't show the ship against Kobe. Yeah, bron why guy be the next that you scored fifty on and this and this and next. The Garden brings a different energy, Sam Serena.

00:44:05
Speaker 6: Literally and you walking in there, even if it's a bullshit gig, you walking in Madison squad Gune, what that feel like?

00:44:13
Speaker 2: Walking?

00:44:13
Speaker 6: Man?

00:44:14
Speaker 1: You there ain't no, there ain't no bullshit games in the NBA. Everyone you need every win, you know, game No, I.

00:44:20
Speaker 6: Agree, but I'm just saying what it feels like to you. Do you ever go there extra early and just look all the time and be like you all the time.

00:44:27
Speaker 1: I'm there earlier every game. I'm there games at seven thirty, I'm their foul clock, I'm lifting, I'm on the court.

00:44:36
Speaker 2: I remember I was there so early in the playoffs. You was doing sound check. You remember I came out. I was listening. I decided to just to see the performance that I was like in the game.

00:44:45
Speaker 1: I'm too locked in. I'm not even gonna be one to hear nothing else but basketball. So like every day I show up at the garden, I know they're probably is gonna be one kid, at least one kid, one family, one adult that spent their last money they got for themselves to go to a next game, and they want to see their favorite players play. I want to show up every night and play right, you know, because I know that there's someone there that for extra hours at their job in to spend their heart or work money to go and watch us play, watch me play, and they could be.

00:45:20
Speaker 2: Nothing more disappointed. I mean not playing. I see you doing a lot in the community, a lot of business. Bench is how important is it to give back? It's very important.

00:45:29
Speaker 1: I mean this is like you said, it's God gave me the gift, and as soon as I this credit the gift, that will take it away.

00:45:36
Speaker 2: So I gotta pay forward.

00:45:38
Speaker 1: And the Dominican Republic doing a bunch of great work over there for the kids and everyone, and.

00:45:44
Speaker 2: Getting down with the a rod. You've been to that joint? No I have no, I have not.

00:45:53
Speaker 6: What yo, I don't want to blow it up? Hey yeah, yeah, it's a vacasious spot, Santo do mingo. That ship looked like Fiji Island. I went there and chriss for my fan. It is beyond beautiful, Like it's like it's no way you thought on this side of the earth.

00:46:13
Speaker 2: There's something that beautiful. Man, I'm talking about Turks. This that what what you name them? There's nothing that looks like that everybody goes to something to Mingo.

00:46:21
Speaker 6: On the other side, for your man a Rod, I think he invested like ten billion or something to make some cribs over there something that what happened?

00:46:32
Speaker 2: No, no, missus, that Joe? How much the Google? Google? Two times? Damn?

00:46:40
Speaker 6: The guy taking notes is fucking tution. Felon, Yo, good good, hey Rod? How much money invested in Santo do Mingo to new resort? A billion dollars? Not fad Joe fad Joe?

00:46:54
Speaker 2: Right? Ten billion? One billion? What's the difference that failure? Want failure? What you want me to do?

00:47:03
Speaker 1: Right?

00:47:03
Speaker 6: But I'm painting the picture you need to get with that. I promise you that's gonna be a success out there.

00:47:09
Speaker 1: I need.

00:47:09
Speaker 2: I mean, I got you. Are telling you what we're saying that he's investing. I'm telling you what's gonna win.

00:47:21
Speaker 6: That is gonna win. Yeah, that is gonna win. The place is it's unbelievable. I believe it's phenomenal. Yeah, three hours away. When you go there, you're gonna be like, Yo, this.

00:47:32
Speaker 2: Ship is great. But they money to go in there.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: What I will say though, is for me, I'm not looking to make money in dr I'm looking to give money to dr Okay, I'm trying to nurture the soil that's there. I don't want to take anything from the I don't want to take anything from our people.

00:47:49
Speaker 2: I want to give to our people. I want to give him the chance people in the world. There's nothing like Dominicans, the most fun, amazing, most given. Can we get the best food? My male and my male and my name and man man yo, man man man. You know.

00:48:04
Speaker 6: I got to Italian friend Stevie Modarana, one of the best chefs in the world. He always goes yo, cuz who don't want to be Italian? I'm ready to say, yo yo, who don't.

00:48:14
Speaker 2: Want to be? I just I just for me. God has given me the chance.

00:48:19
Speaker 1: And I always say like, I appreciate the gift of this game and game of basketball and the life and luck I talked about earlier that I had, but money is not fulfilling to me anymore. When I was younger, it was always the chase of like every young artist who bring up the bag the money balling out like I'm not.

00:48:36
Speaker 2: Fulfilled by that. You know, I don't need that anymore. I'm fulfilled by.

00:48:43
Speaker 1: In New York. I always talk about it. It's the greatest currency you can get in New York.

00:48:47
Speaker 2: It's respect. That's all I look for these days is just respect. That's all I need.

00:48:53
Speaker 6: That's that's that, you know, when that plane come back to New York. Because you know, I live in Miami, and yeah, when I go to Miami, I'm like, come on, everybody want you do that? Come cause that's why. That's what I'm thinking when that plane going down. When I come in here and the ship coming down, I'm here, an there's a wall going down outside, nobody's from you're looking at it just feels like the.

00:49:15
Speaker 2: Whole New York's a project building.

00:49:17
Speaker 6: You're looking at the plane, that shit going down, You're like, it's a different type of teflon you gotta have. But when you big, when the kids got your posting Coney Island and Bay Ridge, that's what Youngest come on in the Bronx in the hall of them in the Lower East Side, his statnlange and they all screaming your name.

00:49:38
Speaker 7: This is.

00:49:40
Speaker 1: If you want to get popping. This is where you want to malop. Come on, cheat, Like you said, family making ends meet. You know, people in a two hundred square foot apartment by hundred square foot apartment, and they willing to dedicate some of their wall space to have you.

00:49:57
Speaker 2: On the wall.

00:49:58
Speaker 6: The love respect love is unreal. And I argue with everybody, shout out to my man.

00:50:02
Speaker 2: We got first. I argue with all the barbers, everybody Christmas. I was arguing for you, Rich, Where's Rich playing his baba with dunk type.

00:50:12
Speaker 6: They traded randofs like yo, call Anthony and I love Randall tough, God love him and family salute them. But I was super excited and I started arguing with the whole barber shopping and I'm like, yo, bro. And then when it was where we went to the final, it was our face.

00:50:28
Speaker 2: I was like, what's up? Yo? You kind of was right just this SUFF told you. I was right. What did we gotta do? Are we gonna see a championship in New York City cars? That's the plan plan. I ain't come here.

00:50:44
Speaker 1: That's the good great all time. You gotta you gotta be, you know, striving for greatness every day. There's a lot of guys try to get to close with no cigar. A lot of guys is cool with being number two. A lot of guys, you telling me that the DNA and the mindset of the New York Knicks when they behind the scenes and y'all together to say, Yo, we're gonna win this champions I mean, did not last year and not proved that. No, No, you know, I'm trying to say down twenty both times game one and Game two in Bostontal, you know what I'm trying to say. We never thought the game was over.

00:51:17
Speaker 2: I know everyone was ready at the house, turning a TV the other channels, watching other games. I don't know what they was watching by the game was going, so, you know, and trying to say.

00:51:27
Speaker 6: We are Cane is coming, babe to trade the first podcast I came in playing that shit for what was that that movie money Trade?

00:51:35
Speaker 2: To Train is coming baby. She was like, Yo, what's that? I was like, Yo, the Train's coming. Yeah. I just you just you can't let any thing cloud your mind of the vision you got.

00:51:46
Speaker 1: And there ain't been a time we hadn't walking there with have a championship standards, you know, and obviously last year we came up short. He comes back twenty five years in the making just to get to that point, and now you know, the man, you gotta work that, Steve. It's harder to get to the next step. What days the Cleveland what is September? Twenty second said no, no, no no, I told her. Twenty's told but twenty second. With that being said, ladies and journal just ain't that and that ain't this. It's tracking. Kiss makes some noise for guess anything.

00:52:20
Speaker 2: Call Anthony tex appreciate it, Thank you, thank you.

00:52:24
Speaker 4: On another legendary episode of Joe and Change, whoa no