2025-05-27- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 2: Welcome to hour or two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, I renumber two Kentucky Sports Radio. We'll go to the phone here in just second eight five nine, two eighty seven. Shannon says, it sounds funny when I was wailing there in the first hour for.

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Speaker 4: The hell saw he all saw no music.

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Speaker 3: That's all right, you know what podcast people, I hope you enjoyed it. Shannon's a little freaked out, right.

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Speaker 1: Why's that?

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Speaker 3: They've posted a picture around the Louisville I Heart with a picture of a person saying watch out for this person. This person has made threats And Shannon just sent me the picture. And I gotta tell you, Shannon, I wouldn't have needed no warning. I wouldn't have needed a warning if I saw that dude. Oh if I saw this dude right here, oh boy, I think I'd be a little bit worried too. Yes, So, so do we know what happened? They said he's made threats to the building. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say on the air, but you know what he's said. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he could be listening right now and get me when I walk out the door.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you gotta be careful.

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Speaker 4: Shaneon happen to you, right, can't kidnap me.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that game you see that guy run.

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Speaker 4: It's weird when you walk in.

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Speaker 2: His face is like plastered on the walls and on the cabinets in the kitchen, Like, have you seen this man?

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Speaker 4: If you have a void him?

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Speaker 3: So what do we think he's upset about? You think it's like, I'm going to be completely I think I have to have a stereotypical This has got to be political, right, that's that's a Trumper guy. Yeah, you think he's like liberal media.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know which side of the alley's on, but you can make that assumption if you want. Probably it probably is political, though I would say, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean no, But that's the only reason you would get mad at radio station, right would.

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Speaker 1: Be I think he's a big fan of indianapos five hundred. Not happy with what you said about it?

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Speaker 3: Well, luckily I'm in a different city right now, so.

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Speaker 4: Take it out on me.

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Speaker 3: What person rights, Matt? How could you not know about Pete Rose? You're a Reds fan because I wasn't a Reds fan back then. I didn't not. I mean, I've never like the Pete Rose even the Joey Vado thing like the It's never affected me because I wasn't a fan then. But when I was reading I'm telling you this book Charlie Hustle, if even if you're not a book reader and you just like sports like you will like it. It goes through his life. I didn't realize how much Pete Rose was gambling like his whole life, Like, I didn't realize that. I guess what's the Northern Kentucky track is that Turfla? Apparently he went to Turfa like every day, wow, every day, like back then the baseball games would often be like four in the afternoon, and then at night he would go to turfay and it just talked about how and he also like didn't pay his debts. Part of the problem was part of the reason he got caught is he owed bookies money all over the East Coast, and so eventually when these bookies got brought down, they would turn on Rose because he owed them all money. I didn't know any of that, Like, I didn't know how the whole investigation even started. It was because bookies got caught and they all flipped on Rose because he owed them like and he would. I mean, he was a degenerate. He like ran from one bookie to the other because like there'd be a book like, I'm not taking your bets anymore because you owe me so much money.

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Speaker 1: And if I remember correctly, these bookies saved the tickets to show Pete Rose's name betting on the Reds.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't realize that. For a lot of their career he and Johnny Bench were kind of like they butted hit. Yeah, because like they did, Pete Rose thought Johnny was considered better than him, and by the end of their career they got along. But during the early career they apparently butted heads. And the things he Pete Rose would say in the media, including some awful things. I mean he said, I didn't know the history of kind of sexist, racist stuff he had said. I didn't realize that. But even also he was just like he'd just be about to play somebody and go, he's not good. I'bout a picture he was going to go against the next day, and he'd be like, yeah, dude's not any good. You know, when we now see such outrage about what athletes say, go look at what Pete Rose used to say. Pete Rose would be about to play a picture and go to the media and go, yeah, he can't, he can't strike me out.

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Speaker 4: I like that, would you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean way more of that. I don't disagree with you, but it's funny how outrage people get it modern athletes. If we then go look at the stuff the guys said back then, it was like, so it's I think it's a it's a great book. I have not even finished it yet, but I read it literally all weekend.

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Speaker 6: Well to my reading list. I've heard stories. I feel like some people locally in the media have told stories about him being at the track all the time, all the time, game days fur coats. Can you imagine going to turf wa and seeing Pete Rose walk in with a fur coat?

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Speaker 3: He doesn't again like the things I thought I knew. I just think about him with that bowl cut haircut. But then I realized that when he got the hit that broke the record, that's one of the first sporting moments I can remember. Really, it's one of the first. I'm not sure like eighty four eighty five is when sports start to come into focus for me. I can remember the eighty five final four. I remember the eighty five Bear season, the whole thing. And then I do remember watching with my grandfather when he got that hit against Eric Shao and the Padres, and against that he was about to hit. He had gone like two games where he didn't get a hit, Like everybody was in Cincinnati to wait and see what happened. The next night, he told that he was also the manager. Think about that, like, can you imagine each your row or not each your row? Oh Tani also being the manager. He was the manager, and he said the night before the game, I'll get it tomorrow. Shall's not good. He's right called.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of badass really.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I remember after I got the hit, member little Pete, his son, ran out to him.

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Speaker 3: And greet him a face, said that in the book you you would love it. This this book was written for r I'm telling you you would. You would really love it. Took you know, I kind of stayed offline all day Sunday, got home Sunday night, got on my phone, looked and uh they someone had taken a clip of like ten or eleven seconds of me talking to Pope and interrupted him at one point. And so me being the interrupter became a big thing. I feel like you tell me I'm I'm open to criticism. While it is correct that I interrupt all the time, I did feel like with Pope, I didn't interrupt him a lot. Am I wrong?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: I sat right there during the whole interview. I thought you did a good job. I mean you you interrupted him as a part of a conversation, but not interrupted him to keep the keep it moving, him talk and had an expand on a lot of topics.

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Speaker 4: He's pretty too, so you let him get his let him get his thoughts out.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see the clip they used against you. I remember, like when you said about Loville, you chimmed in when he's like that was yeah, I mean I remember, I remember you like adding to what he's saying. I don't remember just a full stopping that was.

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Speaker 3: That was the clip. It was something about No, no, no, it wasn't about Louis. Was about Cal, he said when Cal told him, don't ruin my program. I guess, but you know, I've decided by the way to call the podcast interrupted. Yes, I think that's the play.

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Speaker 6: I've had people recommend interrupted by Matt Jones because it's kind of like a double play, like the podcast is by Matt Jones and you're also the active interrupting.

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Speaker 3: That's whoever gave you that ide that's my.

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Speaker 6: Mother actually shout out to Nancy.

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Speaker 3: Nancy, great idea. But I did, I did. I mean, I am bad about interrupting, but I didn't feel like I intentionally tried to be calm cornbread himpy. You know, I tried to do that Ryan because I thought, you know, he's a coach. I want him to come back.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the next day how it's a different interview format when you're interviewing somebody like that for a podcast and then you are on the radio. On the radio, you want to keep it moving and try to you know, keep the guy on topic. You let Mark, I think, expand on topics. Now, if you interrupted him once or twice, I think it was because like you would do us in conversation if we were having lunch somewhere, not like you're trying to keep up to keep the podcast moving.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was the That was the Twitter Sunday night conversation. Is Matt interrupts too much? So I just started chiming in, saying Shannon I agree that he's the worst and we need to we need to get him out. He talks about politics too much. Andrew, what's up? Andrew, What's up?

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Speaker 8: This is a question for you, Matt. Who's your favorite current Red on the team?

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Speaker 7: Who's your all time favorite Red?

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Speaker 8: And what is your favorite piece of Red memorabilia that.

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Speaker 3: You own Ellie Ellie and Ellie's bobblehead. Those are the answers, because again, I've only really rooted for him for like six years, and I love Elle even though you know, guess he's up and down. There is nothing I've seen in baseball. When I was a kid, when Dale Murphy would come up to bat, that was the most exciting thing Shannon to me in the world was Dale Murphy was up to bat. Now, when Ellie gets a hit, watching him run is the best thing in baseball in my opinion, because you don't know what's going to happen. He's so exciting so fast. So that's that's myne easy. And then my Ellie bobblehead that I made Billy get for me that he had to fight someone to get uh for that one game, that's my favorite Memorabill Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because you didn't go to the Pete Rose Jersey Night the other I want to.

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Speaker 3: Ticket its got a lot of money for him. Yeah that was that was good. But but that but it's easy most of the Reds I've hated. I also liked uh Lewis Castillo the pitcher because he could He's the first time because I had seats behind home plate, Shannon and I could watch the ball curve.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like his curve was so.

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Speaker 4: Like so curvy, so curvy.

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Speaker 3: Sitting behind it's It's really the first time I could watch a ball in person, like do magic when he was rolling, and I really liked that. I would never miss when he like I try not to miss one hundred green pitches at home. He throws it even though it's only like four miles an hour faster. You can feel it, which is crazy, but the difference between like one oh one and ninety seven, you can feel it when he throws.

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Speaker 1: That's another thing about Friday who made his return hunter green back, and he was throwing one hundred miles an hour when he came back, and then they lost the lead and lost the game.

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Speaker 3: That's so weird to me as a guy who didn't play baseball, you would think ninety seven one hundred and one. It's not that big a difference. But when you watch it in person, yeah you can it's you guys played it. Yeah, you can feel the differen It's a big difference. When you're sixty feet away from that it it feels like whoa coming off his hand. There's a guy they got right now, Lewis May. He throws one hundred and two and he has no control. And when he throws, I'm like, I'm scared. I'm sure the batters have to be Dalton, go ahead, dn't.

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Speaker 9: Hey, man, I'm not sure if you've seen this, but I think you would really like the movie A Real Pain with Jesse Eisenberg and Kieran Colcine.

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Speaker 3: I have seen it and I thought it was great. I thought it was great. Yeah, I've seen it, the one where they go to Auschwitz or whatever. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I just thought it was like a just a good commentary on the Holocaust. And I know you have mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, because that's what you did.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great. It's a great movie. And it's also like there are a lot of idiots right now that for whatever reason on podcasting stuff or trying to like sort of downplay the Holocaust or even trying to act like it. Some people dict like it didn't even happen. That's nonsense and very dangerous. But also that movie I thought was really really good. You know, it's called it What's a Real Pain? Is that right? It's the dude from Facebook and the dude from Succession in a movie together. Yeah, it's really good.

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Speaker 9: I really thought it was a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I appreciate it if I'm nine to two eight to Zho twenty two eighty seven. Back to the Pope thing for a minute. In his interview, he talked about wanting to get more athletic, et cetera. He also said during that interview, though, that he still wanted the team to take a ton of threes this year. Do you think they're gonna be shooting well enough to do that?

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Speaker 1: I guess you got to show me. Yet, I'm not so sure how many good shooters we're a great shooters we've got on this roster. Maybe they're gonna surprise me, maybe everybody takes a step up. But I guess if you're asking me to predict. I don't know if they'll predict many more threes than they took last year.

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Speaker 6: They won't have a Kobe Brea. Not many teams do have a Kobe Brea. But I think a lot of the guys are going to do better than some of us would give him credit for Aberdeen. You know, he played behind the best backcourt in the country. But in the games where he started, I think there's five or six games he shot forty something from three. I think Jasper Johnson's gonna be able to knock it down. I feel like no one mentions Cam Williams name just whatsoever. So even though they don't have just the sharpshooter, you know that's what they're in for. I still think they have a lot of guys that'll be able to shoot it.

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Speaker 3: That little section where he was talking about Jalen Low and he was talking about how he took the highest percentage of the worst percentage of shots, and if you're a basketball nerd, that's probably the best part. He was like, Jalen Low took the worst twenty percent of shots, the top ten percent of times, and if we could just move him to block. I thought that was really interesting.

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Speaker 1: It was really interesting. I'm glad you brought that up because he confused me on a little bit. Was he trying to say that Jalen Low was forced to take these shots because he had nobody else on the.

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Speaker 3: Bront I'll tell you what. Here's what i'd like to do. Let's take a break. I want to hear you to try to explain, okay, what he said, okay, and then I'll tell you what I think he's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'll try, all right, it was confusing.

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Speaker 6: That's one we wanted to see him go to the draft because Kentucky really wanted him early in the process, and when he went to Michigan, I think we were all rooting that he'd go to the NBA and leave them hanging. That was one of the that's when the whiffs originated online for Pope when you wanna get it.

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Speaker 3: At mean, if we had lost him, we lost him, and that frustrated a lot of people. But I was very early, important, very early, and I think Pope was worried. You know, big men are harder to get, even than guards, and I think he was worried if you go all in on that guy and then he does he ends up staying in the draft, then you are left without a big man. And so I, you know, I do think they wanted him. I also was not as worried as everyone else when he decided not to come.

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Speaker 1: It was so interesting to hear Pope talk about that, you know, not necessarily that the dude maybe he didn't want to come to Kentucky. Maybe Kentucky after meeting with the dude didn't want him, you know, maybe he felt like he wasn't right.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's true with him, though, Okay, I think it was true with that dude from Georgia. I don't think that was true with the dude from Michigan. I think they would they would like to have had the y Axel guy. I think at one point they thought they did have him, and then he changed his mind. I think the Georgia kid is the one. I mean, there may have been others, but the Georgia kid is the one that I think when they met him, they, for whatever reason, I don't know what the reason was, decided that they they didn't want.

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Speaker 1: There were a couple of dudes, like the guard from sam Houston State where I thought Kentucky they wanted. You thought that Shanon.

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Speaker 3: Of course, he thought we were getting that one because he guaranteed it on the radio and you said it was going to happen later in the day, and you interrupted my serene vacation in the Netherlands with everyone mad at me because you guaranteed a player that didn't come.

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Speaker 6: I think Yaxle was his other one.

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Speaker 1: Yaxel was the other one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So notice what he just did right there, Shannon, Do you notice what he just did. He just turned his two guarantees that didn't happen into a Kentucky didn't want them anyway.

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Speaker 1: I think that was it.

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Speaker 3: So Kentucky didn't want them? Then, why did you guarantee they were going to come here?

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Speaker 1: Well that was before they met maybe met him on FaceTime.

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Speaker 3: You guaranteed Sam Wilkerson the day he was decided he.

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Speaker 1: Was supposed to. Then what Indiana made a eleventh hour visit?

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Speaker 3: Well, then how could Kentucky have not wanted him?

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Speaker 1: They did?

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Speaker 4: I'm so confused.

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Speaker 6: So it's the concussion from the Herbie two and nose?

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Speaker 3: So is he eighty seven? Okay? So tell me what Pope said about Jalen Lowe's shot quality in your mind?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm this is what I heard sitting in the room, is that Jalen Lowe is the point guard for Pitt. Correct, Pitt was so awful.

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Speaker 3: He didn't say awful, but I think that was the insinuation.

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Speaker 1: Insinuation that they ran the shot clock down to the final seconds because nobody could get a shot, and he was forced to jack up a bad shot just because the shot clock was about to wind down. So really, his shooting percentage is not as bad as it perceives because he was forced to take bad shots because he was on a bad team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't say that. Now, what he said was that, I mean he that might have been part of it. But what he basically said was, there's a stat that ranks how many high quality and low quality shots you take. Yeah, and low quality shots are shots that are like from the eightieth per or from the twentieth percentile of the worst to zero. He said Jalen Lowe took more of those shots than almost any player in college basketball, and his shooting percentage on those shots was awful. But when he took shots that were of a higher quality, his shooting percentage was very, very good. And his point was, if we can just get him to take fewer of the I think pope U's the word hard shots and more of the others, it'll work. And he said Lamont Butler had similar stats before he came here, and they got Lamont Butler to get away from the bad shots and his shooting percentage went way up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think lows is confusing to say, but Lowe was in the ninetieth percentile of taking the most shots under twenty percent of quality.

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Speaker 3: Which is it is confusing, but he was at the top of the worst scale you can be on and.

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Speaker 6: Those are contested long two.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting. Pope said one that they are basically like looking for inefficiencies in analytics. Where is the guy that if you just take that trade away, the other trades will get better. And he said Lamont Butler was like that two years ago and Jalen Lowe, he hopes is like that this year. But when it was over, I will say this kind of in a private moment, well should we say, we can say I think we said in versions. He was like, Jaylen knows the dudes, it's gotta be good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: He kind of was like, he said, that's the one, like he's gotta be good for this to all work.

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Speaker 6: That's the only spot where they're not really too deep. I mean, they have guys that can back them up, but if he were to go down or not pan out, you don't really have a true point guard that could step in and by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, that was true last year too. Lamont Butler was the one guy you kind of couldn't really replace if he went out, and I think we're gonna be like that again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pope still spoke very highly of Jalen Lowe and him as a player and what he could potentially could be this year. I think for the team.

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Speaker 3: Jerry, go ahead, Jerry.

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Speaker 8: Oh, yes, I think you should own interrupting people. If you see the movie The Darkest Hour, there's a scene where Winston Churchill is arguing with one of his war cabinet members who was winning him to sue for peace with the Nazis, and as they were talking over each other, Winston Churchill said to him, stop interrupting me while I'm interrupting you.

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Speaker 3: I've done that before.

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Speaker 8: If you could grab that that take and have Shannon play that anytime someone tries to over you.

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Speaker 3: No, that's your exactly right. I'd appreciate I do that with callers. Don't interrupt me and I'll go let me finish. Yeah, after I didn't let them finish. And it's a fair criticism. Everybody has a weakness. I told one of the guys that was giving me a hard time on on Twitter about it. I'm like, everybody has a weakness. That's just one of mine, and that's okay.

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Speaker 4: At least you recognize it. Though.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm pretty self aware about my weaknesses. Now that doesn't mean I will stop them, but you know, like, like, that's one of my biggest weakness. What do you think is one of your biggest weakness? Is Ryan math?

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Speaker 6: Well, he said that so quickly and leaned in.

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Speaker 3: It's not really that's not really a personality weakness. That's something you're not good at. What's like a personality?

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time telling people know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's true. I think that's good. What about you?

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Speaker 6: I think I can be too carefree to a fault. I'm just always and sometimes I need a little more urgency, a little more aggression. I'm just constantly whatever. That can be good in some situations, but sometimes you're easy you need to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. What about you, Shannon?

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Speaker 4: Oh, everybody knows I'm perfect. I don't have any flow.

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Speaker 3: I knew he was gonna say, but he doesn't. I knew you were gonna say that. Like Shannon doesn't accept Shannon is like exactly well, I love Shannon.

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Speaker 4: I'm exactly like what.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to articulate it in a way that's as nice as I want to be because I love you and I know so we'll just we'll just take a break. Very back, it's KSR. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Nicks Pacers Tonight, Pacers two and a half point favorite. All three of these games in the series have been close. All three have been exciting so far. The road teams won every game. Who wins tonight?

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Speaker 6: I still think the Knicks win the series. I'll say they win tonight.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: This is by far been the most fun really all the Knicks and Pacers games, all playoffs. It just got to the point there's just no point in watching the first three quarters of these playoff games if the Knicks and Pacers involved, because it doesn't matter if it's a twenty point lead, eighteen point lead, it's coming down to the wire. And I hope that's the case again tonight.

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Speaker 3: Foul. Sorry, I've been watching Carl Town's videos.

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Speaker 6: Zesty Carltown is popular Town.

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Speaker 3: Like if you get on TikTok, it is all shit, Zesty Carl. It's all just him going sec and like it's just it's.

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Speaker 6: In that past that that's going about.

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Speaker 3: Last that he did it. I actually think it's made Carl even more lovable to the fans, is that they are literally standing outside the arena and doing Carl Town's impressions.

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Speaker 6: And I love Carl, but he is definitely changing his voice in inter some more in New York and he is.

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Speaker 3: He does all of it and I love him for it. But they have shown him when he gets fouled in screams oh, like he does that all the time in the videos. They have like tons of video shited. I can't stop watching them. They make me laugh so much.

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Speaker 2: Once you get on the algorithm on TikTok, that ever can't get away get out of it.

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Speaker 3: If you get in the Carl Town's screaming videos. You cannot get out of him.

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Speaker 4: Stuck in the list.

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Speaker 6: I sent you and Mario a link to there's a Zesty Town shirting it.

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Speaker 3: I think he's kinda He's kind of zesty, and he was good the other night. He had twenty points in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: And I was really mad at him that night. You know, I'm a PACER's guy, but Carl was unstoppable in.

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Speaker 3: The fact when he dunked on the dude, Yeah, even I got up and was flex.

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Speaker 6: Imagine being in the city of Indianapolis in a postseason game and giving the ball to Carl late in the game for win. I mean, what a novel concept. If only we had done that about ten years ago.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, when I see him get hot from three, and I think Cal was like, Nope, nope, can't shoot him, can't shoot him.

00:26:07
Speaker 6: He was seven for eleven from the field and didn't take a shot after the seven minute mark. Just a reminder in Indianapolis.

00:26:15
Speaker 3: So you said the College Football twenty six video game came out, No, Kentucky they have They have all these teams on the cover, probably forty teams, and they don't have Kentucky.

00:26:26
Speaker 6: They released the deluxe cover. I mean it's just a big collaboration of all kinds of teams. There's probably fifty teams, you know, players, coaches, fans. Kentucky did not make the cut, but there is a fan pretty prominent spot wearing a Toledo sweatshirt. So our first opponent made the cover of the new video game and not the Cats.

00:26:44
Speaker 3: Do you know that we have Ryan the fifth lowest win total on DraftKings of any Power Fight Power for school only Stamford. There's like Stamford, Purdue. We're fifth lower what is it four and a half? That's tough, lowest. We have the lowest in the SEC.

00:27:08
Speaker 6: I didn't like. I forgot the website, but someone over the weekend did like one of those anonymous coaches things. One of the coaches said they can't keep up with Vandy. Like that's the biggest sense.

00:27:19
Speaker 3: Over the years, that anonymous coaches thing that Athlon does has been pretty dead ones And normally it's been very very complimentary to Kentucky. Not this year.

00:27:30
Speaker 1: No, last year they were complimentary, did Kentucky.

00:27:33
Speaker 3: Not this year?

00:27:34
Speaker 6: It usually says we hate playing Kentucky. We know we felt, we feel it. The next day.

00:27:37
Speaker 3: The whole thing is Mark has let it slip. We have no idea what this team is going to do. They might be off like it's not good.

00:27:46
Speaker 6: The one that said they can't keep pace with South Carolina and Vandy. If you can't keep pace with Vandy and other coaches are saying that out loud, that's that one's stung.

00:27:53
Speaker 3: That one was worried me, and it basically said, there's a lot of players that aren't that great. It's all going to come down to seventh year Nick calzonk so as I accidentally called him Eric Impanada, and we really need Nick Calzada to be good. Darryl, go ahead, Darryl.

00:28:13
Speaker 5: Morning, gentlemen. I just have a couple of comments and then I'll hang up and get out. Uh first, if you want to or if you're worried about interrupting people, listen to Sean Hannity's radio show. Not only does the interrupted his guests, he asked questions that go for paragraphs. Second, Yeah, West Virginia is the place where greatness is learned and couches were first burned. Go mountaineers. I'm out.

00:28:42
Speaker 3: Oh, well, there you go, West Virginia. Greatness is learned, and cat well it is learned, and then it comes to Kentucky, right, you learn it there and then you come crafted uh here. We like that.

00:28:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna uh, with all respect to the caller there, We're gonna show West Virginia what's up at noon on Friday too.

00:29:03
Speaker 3: They're almost like our minor league feeder system. Sure, and we think you once you cross over I sixty four from Huntington to Ashland, you get in the big leagues. And we thank you for that.

00:29:12
Speaker 1: Wes for John Oscar she Way got kerk Crees and we got the football player that's coming over now this year.

00:29:17
Speaker 3: So keep keep sending them, to keep sending them, We'll take them my Marc Anthony, what's up, Mark Anthony?

00:29:23
Speaker 7: Hey, Matthew Andrews, Shannon Fellows. If there is but one statistic I want to see improved this year from the basketball team, it would be shot percentage from three feet and in. I know it was every game last year they would leave ten twelve points on the floor from three feet and in. And they had an awful time with the lab just could not get that lob to work. So just one thing I want to see improved it would make a big difference this year.

00:29:54
Speaker 3: There would be yes, I appreciate the call, There would be multiple games that would have gone a different way if we'd been better with layups. We were, I mean, and really it was all the guys. I mean, Away missed a lot, Robinson missed a lot, Butler missed a lot.

00:30:12
Speaker 6: Just dunking Amary dunk.

00:30:14
Speaker 3: I mean, there were just so many layups that just again, I think it was an athleticism thing. I think the athleticism when you are going up against a great athlete and you're not quite as good an athlete, you tend to try to avoid being blocked, and it causes you to miss it. That might get better, but man, there were a lot of layups missed.

00:30:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Carr, he's a below the rim player and then when his bag got hurt, he definitely wouldn't getting up there.

00:30:40
Speaker 3: But amar He oddly was one of the more crassy ones.

00:30:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, draw some good fouls, but amar He turned it on in the tournament, had some flashy dunks against Illinois, but there were so many games where you're just yelling, go rip the rim off, big guy, and he would just miss some two footers. It got frustrating. He was so good at just about everything, but around the rim he would have some problems.

00:31:00
Speaker 3: Free bird. What's up, hey, glad y'all.

00:31:04
Speaker 10: Hope y'all had a great Memorial Day, Matt. If you want a really good funny, I've sent you on the text line of Grand Paul Jones outtake that he missed a freight and I think Ryan hit it on the head. Nick min Jones have said, a fabulous job with what he recruited, with what he got in the transfer portal, and I think we're gonna do some damage.

00:31:29
Speaker 3: Man.

00:31:29
Speaker 10: I hope y'all feel the same way.

00:31:30
Speaker 3: Well, they got in. They got in a little bracket, and I appreciate the call that they have a shot at. You know, sometimes you can get stuck with a team that, even if you play great, like they're just a lot better than and they're in a bracket. Where As Drew said, those teams have struggled down the stretch, you've got a chance. And so yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and act like I know the excuse me the pitching matchups and all this, because I do not. But I do know that when I look at the base ball tournament. I look in your little four team pod, do you have a chance and they have a chance.

00:32:06
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:32:06
Speaker 1: You may look at just the overall records think well, Kentucky doesn't have that good of a record, But then you look at who their wins were against in the SEC, some of the top level teams in the country. Then you realize, this guy, this team is really good better than a record indicates.

00:32:18
Speaker 3: One of the good things about playing in the SEC in baseball. But this is true in every sport, but certainly in baseball is we're so much better than every other conference, and they try to keep you from playing another SEC team in your little pod. Yeah. So it makes it to where you get teams that might not be as good as the teams you've been playing all season long.

00:32:35
Speaker 6: Yeah. Even though Clemson's hosting had a good year, West Virginia obviously two seed, had a decent year. You get a little bit of relief not having to see an SEC team. It felt like when they were reading the sixteen regional sites, it was just one SEC school after another. They had about all of them to at least get a little break from that.

00:32:52
Speaker 3: By the way, the Canes won the game. I saw the back. They needed to win. They did. I watched most of it. They came back. They've got you know, they have a Russian dude, Shannon, who just got to America. He's only he came here, and he came here and he's had to play for the playoffs and he speaks no English. Okay, so I want you to think about that. He speaks no English none, And they said that he for last night's game, spent the day trying to learn enough English to give a pregame motivational speak. Really, now, I want you to think about this. He's only been on the team for two weeks, he's from Russia. This is his first time even in America. He decides to try to motivate his new teammates. He's going to learn just enough English for a speech. And after the game was over, the players were like, it wasn't good, and it wasn't even close to but there was something that motivated us about the fact that he would try. Yes, you know that he tried to do it and it actually got him excited, even though they said like he was using the wrong words and all that. But I think that's kind of cool, right.

00:34:07
Speaker 2: Imagine, you know, you had to go over to Russia and do a motivational speech in Russian.

00:34:13
Speaker 3: And had to exactly, I'd be terrible.

00:34:14
Speaker 4: You wouldn't know what to say.

00:34:16
Speaker 3: But I wonder if the Russians would be like, well, at least he's trying, you know. So I think that I would love to have heard the speech. They said. It was like twenty seconds. He gets up and the guys try not to laugh because he's so serious, and even though it sounded ridiculous, they all will. I think that's kind of a cool story like that.

00:34:36
Speaker 6: I mean, he's obviously wanted to be part of the team, wants the show. He can lead just head and got through the Rosetta stone. Yet it's a big, big process to learn our language gave.

00:34:44
Speaker 3: I'd love to hear what he said. That was like not even close to right, but still got people go.

00:34:50
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome. I think it's shows he's a good wants to be a good locker room guy, wants.

00:34:54
Speaker 3: To be a good teammate.

00:34:56
Speaker 1: So even though I may mess up the words, sometimes people mess up the word when they're in a radio. Sometimes it doesn't matter it does You're here for the good of the better men.

00:35:04
Speaker 3: Of the people. I thought we're about the good of the betterment of the people.

00:35:08
Speaker 6: Yes, all right, you're trying to do it in the same languages it is.

00:35:12
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm eighty seven. We will take a break. Come back. Final segments, Chazer, welcome back. Final segment, take you sports radio. Hey, if you haven't heard by now, corn bread hemps and few seltzers are flying off the shelves, and for good reason, you can kick them back at a cookout. Only thirty calories per can alcohol free. My friends just take them from my house. Here's me, I'm the friend you you took them, by the way, it was nice. Drew took the corn bread seltzers left his coffee. It was very It was very. But I can't complain because I leave skittle rappers in my friend's couches. But nevertheless, corn bread hemp uh. They have peach iced tea raspberry leminated more to go to cornbreadhimp dot com. It's cornbreadthimp dot com. I've given Billy a homework assignment, Shannon, I've heard for today's Matt Jones show, I'm having Drew on. We're gonna kind of do the whole, the whole fade this thing. But I'm gonna have Billy pick ten news items, news, sports, or entertainment items for us to discuss. Oh, and I thought we were gonna tape it on Wednesday, but now we have to tape it on Tuesday. So I didn't tell him til last night. And I don't know what he's gonna pick, Shannon, do you think he's gonna pick good things?

00:36:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got plenty of time. You know, he does the one hour pre show with me and then he's got twenty three hours to come up with topics. So I think if he can't come up with ten topics in that amount of time, then I don't know.

00:36:41
Speaker 3: And he's gonna show. I'm gonna he will just give them on the air and then Drew and I will we'll discuss them, and that will be one of the two episodes this week for the Matt Jones Show. People people wanted that fade this dynamic, so we're gonna have a little bit of it, and thank you all. The amount of downloads of the SHO Show has been through the roof people. I would suggest, hey, if you see a guest on there and you're like, I don't know this person, give it a shot, you will create new fans. I had people say that to me about both Ryan McGee and in Crystal Ball this weekend.

00:37:17
Speaker 6: Well, I'm excited for the show I'm gonna be on because it's almost like a game show. There's no show prep. We don't know what Billy is gonna put in front of us. It's just going to be our natural off the cuff reactions to whatever.

00:37:28
Speaker 3: Billy doesn't pick good stuff, Shannon, I might mention that during the show as well.

00:37:33
Speaker 4: Blame it on him if you don't have a good topics.

00:37:36
Speaker 3: Khalil Whitney, I thought about you, Drew when I saw this, because that was your guy, the dragon. He put up a was it Instagram? I think it was on TikTok where Rut up a picture of himself when he was at UK with the caption all he needed at the time was a hug. So it was like a picture of him looking sad on the on the bench with him saying all he needed at the time was a hug, and then a lot of Kentucky this is this is the best of Big Blue days. Kentucky fans lit up the comments, saying great things about him and You could tell it affected him positively because he then put up a different one that said BBN, I love you all blah blah blah blah blah. But I will say when I saw the first picture of him being sad with that caption, it made me sad. Like even though things didn't work out with that kid, you always have to remember, like these are he was a kid when he was here. What you were a huge fan of his?

00:38:46
Speaker 6: I was ready to lead the Khalil Whitney Dragon fan club. Well I did it? Did it just lasted a few months? Yeah, that one, That one hurt. You know, we don't know the real story of what happened there. Just looking at that post he made, it shows he obviously wanted to go a different direction and felt probably a UK let him down a little bit. If he's saying all I needed was a hug. I do remember at the time kind of people in the Khalil Whitney camp weren't helping his situation. He seemed like he wanted to be at UK and I don't remember what ultimately led to him leaving, but I think the people around him felt him pretty bad in that process too, because he had a world of potential, and I looked it up last night, and he's playing at like he just played in somewhere in Mexico. Now he's at like the third or fourth level of Australia, and he had way too much talent to not get a better shot at a better pro career. But I just needed a hug. It makes you wonder what he's really implying there.

00:39:36
Speaker 3: As much as I love, and I do love when guys come here. And I saw DeMarcus Cousins do an interview with Kevin Garnett where he said Kentucky was the first and only place he felt totally loved and accepted by a fan base. I thought that was really cool. It does hurt like it hurts me when guys feel the opposite. I mean, some of it's inevitable, some of it might even be their fault sometimes. I'm not saying that the case with Khalil, but I saw that, and it really I did buy me out like that, Because you want this to be a positive experience for everybody. That's that's a part of it.

00:40:10
Speaker 1: I've always felt bad for that kid, like you said, he was eighteen, nineteen years old, and for him to leave the team in January tells me that was more than just playing time. He was Maybe he was broken, he felt broken, maybe he didn't feel wanted. It is hard to remember that these are just kids. A lot of times. We just saw this a couple years ago, and now I'm drawing a blank on his name. Played, got drafted by the seventy six ers. Justin Edward, Justin Edwards. You know, he ended up having some struggles throughout the season. We saw him crying on the bench that one game.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I mean Cal's thing is like the tough love, and I do think there is a lot of love with that. I mean, I do think he cares about his guys. I think he is. I think he cares about his players, you know, a lot more than he even gets credit for. But he can't be a lot. And I think some of the guys that's just hard for and maybe sometimes it breaks before he has a chance to really get through to them that he does care a lot, you know what I mean.

00:41:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems he's insinuating he needed more love. Maybe not. I don't remember the fans being too bad. I really don't remember the reaction how he's playing, but probably internally behind the scenes. Cal does a great job taking caver of his players. They all ador him, but he's probably not batting a thousand on every single player, and Whitney's I'd say one of the ones that you know, Cal probably could have done a little better in making sure he was Uh.

00:41:32
Speaker 3: I don't know what was Kenny Payne here when Khalil was here, because Kenny Payne was a big part of like stopping Col's worst instincts from hurting the play. Yeah, and when he was gone, I'm not sure there was somebody that played that role. That was Kenny's greatest strength is cow would go nuts and then Kenny would come back around and build it back up.

00:41:53
Speaker 6: I think Kenny was Yeah, this should have been he went to the Knicks round Covid Kloe.

00:41:58
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well either way, I will say that, and I think but a shout out to our fans who then used that as an opportunity to say really good things, because I do it's clear that made him feel better for whatever was happening Ryan at that moment.

00:42:14
Speaker 1: Another example why Big Lue Nation is the absolute best. This guy left in January, but it's still and he needed a helping hand. Big lu Nation's gonna reach out and try to help the guy.

00:42:21
Speaker 3: By the way, the girl who came up during our show at the Mount Laurel Festival, the queen candidate. Yes, she ended up being named She won. She was named queen.

00:42:31
Speaker 4: Who got thrown into the lake. That's what I want to know.

00:42:34
Speaker 3: The guy with the mustache that was with her, Remember the guy with the mustache. They walked up and I said, are you gonna throw the people in the lake? Are you gonna get thrown turns out he was the one got thrown in the lake. So no KSR Curse show ends up becoming queen. Thank you all very much. We'll be at the bar tomorrow and Thursday.