The Real Report - Tim Thomas on Melo vs Brunson, the effects of NIL money, & playing at Rucker Park w/ Fat Joe

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you where right quick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go on these guys instagrams and watch them when they travel.

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Speaker 3: It's all they do.

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Speaker 4: I don't like this guy like this talk. We only talk. We only friends on talk. We're not friends. Got we ain't We're going to it with friends. Something I would have asked you something.

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Speaker 1: No, he didn't get happened. You're out.

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Speaker 4: We're glad to have you, hear New York legendary Nick from Patterson, New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: No noise, serious serve. So how did uh growing up in Jersey?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: How did it take you on your basketball journey?

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Speaker 2: I mean it was just it was just, you know, like any other in the city. You go, you know, you got your suburbs, you got your hood. For me, growing up in Patterson, I lived all over, you know, so I was able to connect with, you know, a little bit of everybody. And we had at that time, we had a lot of guys that was actually playing ball, you know, so they was a little older than me and all of that. So I was just following suit, you know what I'm saying. It's like like anything else. You know, you see the hustlers and they got nice calls by the bla. You fall in love with something and you just follow suit. So I was chasing those guys around, you know, just trying to make my mark on things.

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Speaker 1: And you know, once I got.

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Speaker 2: Into like the fifth grade, started traveling, going to camps and ship like that, went out to this camp called five Star, destroyed out there, and the next thing, you know, I was the best sixth grade in the country.

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Speaker 1: So that yeah, you know, just moving, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you got you got more of a versatile game, like you was a big.

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Speaker 1: Man shooting at three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how you build again, that's the part like one of you was doing that early, like yeah, yeah, but that's now it's like every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's the parks man. You know, you're on the playground and ship and you out there and you know you might play one game at one o'clock, next game before o'clock if you lose, you know what I mean. So you had to go out there and be able to do multiple things to you know, sustain.

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Speaker 1: So that that's that's from the.

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Speaker 2: Park man, just you know, having that and actually God blessing me with the talent, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So just you know, putting it through. I've seen something a few weeks ago online I think it was. It was Swaggy pe beefing with Kenya mart and it made me think about you and yeah, I talk about that a little bit like that about.

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Speaker 2: So I was actually with the Knicks and he was with the next they beat us, and when his teammates came across and like kind of clothes line. So when the clothes line, I was like, I was number on one side of my body.

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Speaker 1: So I had to go to the hospital I V So I was out of the series. So you know, it's like anything else that's remember went that deep, Like okay, yeah, so that's my livelihood.

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Speaker 2: That's sound feed on my phones, you know what I'm saying. So me and Jason Collins, we actually had the same agent, so he called to check in on me, Bly, So I was more pissed off at my teammates for not retaliate, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's like anything else, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So right out, so like murder down when they run him a wrapper?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: So, so you know, it went back and forth in the media, and then he said something that caught my attention, like, put us in the room and see who walk out. So now that's like some exactly. Yeah, so now it's now it's different. So you know, the rest of that summer is going on. So I actually caught him in the club in New York. He had his cool shoes on and he had the church shoes on, the cool shoes, so I caught him in. They put us back up against the wall. So I'm like, we already know what that's you know what I'm saying. So you don't want no no, no smoke, no nothing whatever.

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Speaker 1: So I just completely let it be.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, in the summertime, we do a lot of charity events and different events.

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Speaker 1: So I had to.

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Speaker 2: Go to Dallas like a week later, which where he lives, you know what I mean. So I've been flying private We've been playing with those things before they started, you know, cool going and trying to figure out what you got in your bag. So we get out there and you know, I kind of embarrassed him in his own town, you know. So that's why he constantly keep you know, talking, saying and then you know, the rest of my career, every time I would get a chance, I would just you know, poke at him.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was an incident in Phoenix for years. Yeah yeah, yeah, but once once I once once I flipped.

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Speaker 2: So so to go back to go back to what you're saying, like I completely left it alone.

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Speaker 1: Like me and this dude with damn their neighbors in California. Okay, look at.

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Speaker 2: That same same dentist, same grocery store, same gas station, same mall. Our wives had kids around the same time, same doctor. Like this could have you know what I'm saying, Like we could have been got it on you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying exactly.

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Speaker 2: So what he's mad about is one of his teammates, good brother from from the city, Julius Hodge. Julius Hodge was in the in the weight room one time. I caught him right before the game, is about to rough him up a little bit. Julius stopped the action, and uh, being at Julius stopped the action.

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Speaker 1: That's when we had to wear suits in the league.

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Speaker 2: So Kmart went and bought them five suits in the TV. You know what I'm saying, To try to keep everybody from knowing what's going on with the situation, but you know, for me, it ain't about nothing. And you know for him he understands and know exactly what it is. And you know, if you got a problem, do something when you see me.

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Speaker 1: Sucker. You heard that.

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Speaker 4: Like that, Like we talk about that suit because I remember that. That was like the Allen I was in time, your time like you had Like yeah, yeah, so they was It wasn't a generation, don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So so you know, shout out to my brother, A.

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Speaker 2: I just did this All American game down and so A, I took a lot of bullets for a lot of cats to be able to do what they doing now, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So the tattoos, the corn rolls and all.

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Speaker 2: Of that, and it was getting out of control because everybody was dressing like a you know what I'm saying. So the league was like, yo, we can't have the five x T shirts, the jewels, you know what I'm saying, cats like that coming in and everybody's making millions, you know, millions of dollars. So they wanted to tone it down, so they put us in suits. Man, So you know it was cool. I mean a lot of us, you know, we all grew up going to church like that. So it was cool, you know what I mean. But you know it was more of a corporate thing to get to where the league is at.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: I feel like league need to put a dress code now, the way some of these ball players dressing times.

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Speaker 1: Nah, man, it's it's cool.

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Speaker 3: These it's cool some of them. It's just a style change.

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Speaker 1: But but this, but this generation is more about their brand.

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Speaker 2: See, we was running around wow, you know what I'm saying, Like if we was connected to a certain rap group or whatever, you had a little stigma on you and ship like that. But now these guys they're all about their brand. Like I just came in and said, you know, I ain't getting paid for this.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what they on.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's different times. It's different small water high at us. Yeah, definitely, holler at us.

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Speaker 3: Now, look hold up, hold on, hold on, hold.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell the world.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell the world right quick, y'all gotta go on these guys instagrams and watch them when they travel.

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Speaker 3: It's all they do. I don't like this guy talk. We only talk.

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Speaker 4: We only friends on tour. We're not friends. We ain't going to it with friends talk that.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask something? I want to ask you something?

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Speaker 4: No, No, I want to ask him because you know he's a fucking Lebron fit.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, That's what I was. We're gonna get back like that.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't know because that is my favorite play. I'm not gonna like you was with Lebron early? Right, did you see certain things in it? Like did you see all of this in Lebron early?

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Speaker 2: But you was with him? Like what did you see it? When he first came in the league. You gotta remember the league was physical. It was still physical. It was fading out to this new era. So I mean you could go back and look at it. He had some struggles, right. I think he ran up against that Detroit Piston's team. I'm not really sure. Orlando gave him a little yeah yeah, and I remember that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he had to go through you know, his his grown spurs to get to you know, where he's at.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So definitely, man, But I mean everybody knew that he was talented. He benefited off of all the things that you know, myself, Kobe Jermaine o'nail guys like that, you know, started before him from the high school side of things going coming up. So but we all knew he was talented. I mean obviously you got to get in and and you know, put your plant down and make your mark.

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Speaker 1: And he definitely did that, definitely definitely.

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Speaker 3: So how how was he playing on the Calves?

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I never played with the Calves. I played against him. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, when he first came in, it was so much hype. He was on the cover Sports Illustrated all that stuff, and I like to get all that stuff for the kids.

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Speaker 1: So you know, teammates were shitting on them too. Well, you know, that's that's just part of it. You know what I'm saying. I don't think this high school kid could come in here and really do nothing. Yeah yeah, because you know at that time, man like we only had KG as our guidance guy who came out and had some success.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, definitely, you know what I'm saying. And then you know when Cole did it. Cole, people forget Cole struggled his.

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Speaker 1: First year start right away to it was struggle at first start right away, you know what I mean. Jermaine O'Neill.

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Speaker 2: He struggled his first two years not starting this ship that so you know, KG was the only one that got in, went right to work.

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Speaker 1: Guy it like that.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the Lebron thing, I think it was perfect for him because he went to an organization that was trying to build and obviously they had a bunch of young guys there. He came in and he just fit right in with the young guys and they was able to do what they needed to do.

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Speaker 3: All right, now I could talk.

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Speaker 4: Let's I wasn't playing on the Okay, I don't know what I was thinking exactly. Blame your man Marcus with that. I don't know, because I never knew him playing for the Cavs. Put that in the you know, and he's fucking cue cards.

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Speaker 3: He blame him. What I wanted to ask you.

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Speaker 4: Is because he's gonna go with Lebron, and you know, him and my man, like they always argue, he always goes with Kobe, right, So I love when they argue. It's like every daylight, I'm gonna go with Jordan, you know what I'm saying. That's why I'm gonna go with Jordan. That's always been my favorite player did how was it playing AAU you know games early with like Vince Carter and Kobe Bryant, those two grades.

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Speaker 2: So so the the way that shit happened was crazy because people forget Kobe was overseas, so when he when he came to the States, he was trying to catch up with the game like most cats would do coming from overseas. So he got with sham God get his handles together, and then he played with us to just get a foundation of how the speed and the strength of the game was. And you could just see the the termination in them, Like he would pull up from deep shoot the air ball and then we'll be like yo, man, like get closer to that, He'll go right back to the same spot, shoot that bitch again and it be all money, you know what I mean. So, but you could just see it early, you know, in them, and then we was rock stars, man, like you know the ship that the kids is doing now playing you know AAU at college universities and you know, high school games on ESPN, like Lebron got that on ESPN. That was some of the things that was you know put in for us. But we was never able to capitalize, you know, on those situations. Like one example, like me and Cole was an hour and a half away from each other. So in our in our class in ninety six, towards the end, it was it was basically who you like, if you like you know, if you like McDonald's and you like Burger King, you know what I'm saying. So it was one and two in so many people eyes. And we could have played a game, a high school game at the Garden or at the Spectrum in Philly or at any college against each other at that but we never we never was able to make that game, you know what I'm saying. But that au stuff with the players, you know, shout out to the players, shout out to everybody who came through the program. But that that for us, man, we was like rock stars. We were seeing the stuff that everybody caught on later. With Vince Carter, we were seeing that early early, got early, Like damn, what the fuck he just do?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Did he really do that? We're seeing that ship early, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, obviously Cold, you know, transitioning over and becoming a player that you know, he became rest definitely man.

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Speaker 1: You know, cold cole passed away.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: My West Coast crib was in Hit the Hills in Calabasas. Cole passed away, maybe about five minutes away from me, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, d how do you think today's NBA is different from like around your ever you can't touch us. You had kind of a stat out that's similar to today's game. Like I feel like you was a little ahead of your time a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So it was it was cats like deathlift, Shrimp, Derek Coleman, Billy Owens, uh, Steve Smith you know, six' nine. Him, yeah guys like that that came before. Me but the the difference now is basically all of the rules Of european. Rules so you're seeing all threes and you're seeing guys being able to move and go wherever they want on the. Court in my, era, Motherfucker, chucky you got through the lane and you're not. Looking, bang they're, gonna you, know give you a quick, one you know WHAT i. Mean so then you had the hand check in and stuff like. That so they took that style of play out and now that's why you see scores one thirty five or one, ten you, know, one so you can't even you can't even, determine, like, yo this is gonna, be you, know a low scoring.

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Speaker 1: Game so speaking Of, nick, right who you think not not the better player, overall but the Better nick career so? Far Between brunton And. Mellow that was my.

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Speaker 3: Fucking question always was you know what you?

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Speaker 1: Know because you.

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Speaker 3: Got let me was gonna say who you think is?

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Speaker 4: Better or what you Say mellow because that was really that was not better Better nick.

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Speaker 1: CAREER i feel what you're.

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Speaker 4: Saying but all around that was with the Comparison mellow so And, Brunting.

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Speaker 3: Mellow to make sure you get That mellow good good.

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Speaker 2: Stuff So mellow actually is A hall Of famer right so as far as career he's, reached The brunting is still. CLIMB i would Put Mellow, nick But, rick But nick right, now it's you gotta, say you gotta SAY jb because he's winning and that's the bottom. Line that's what it comes down, to you know What i'm. Saying so LIKE i don't Know mellow's Full nick. CAREER i know he's you, know he added certain points and did his thing of whatever, whatever but winning that takes it.

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Speaker 1: Off like you got, yeah, definitely you know WHAT i. Mean so you, know.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you another.

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Speaker 4: Question how do you feel about like kids making money in college? Now BECAUSE i know back in the days it wasn't like. That you think a kid should rush to go to THE. Nba they, not the, draft they. Not but that's that's part of the, problem like a coop of, flag LIKE i, know his first round. Pick so, YEAH i, mean you, know the kids that have the desire and the heart to want to pursue that ship and go after. It the those are the kids that that's going.

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Speaker 1: After.

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Speaker 2: Now you got kids that's just going to college where they're. Going they're going from high school trying to get into college just for the nil, deal and they're trying to stay in school six, years five six years they can still get.

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Speaker 1: So think about, It so think about how about to break it? Down so think about.

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Speaker 2: It if you Play division one basketball and your starter you can make anywhere between two the five million, dollars and that's just off of a nil. Deal the, school the university can actually pay you as. Well so in, reality in one, year you can make eight million, dollars you see What i'm, saying.

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Speaker 1: Or ten stay in, school.

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Speaker 4: Because if you make second, round you ain't you might not even be making that kind of.

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Speaker 1: Money, Yeah so that's What i'm.

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Speaker 2: Saying so the other the other part of about it too is basketball players know now THAT G league is like. Prison you get into THE G, league ain't no telling if you're coming. OUT a lot of cats. Don't they. Don't they signed to two way, deals, everybody, right but not even that like they. Signed they, signed you, know two way. Deals but they're only gonna play in the, one the one. League so they might bring them up if a guy get, hurt they'll bring them up for a, week two, weeks or they might even put you on a playoff. Roster but you're not gonna go in and, play you know What i'm, saying.

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Speaker 1: Unless a lot of people get. Hurt, yeah you know What i'm.

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Speaker 2: Saying so cats now in high, SCHOOL i mean in, college they're, like, yo we might as well just stay in school and make as much bread as we can and then if the opportunity is there, later we're gonna go, later.

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Speaker 1: Cool and take them unless to secure his bag.

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Speaker 2: First but the other the other thing, too that's killing the game is that the kids that are that are actually league in college, playing they're older, now so they're twenty, six twenty, seven twenty, eight you know What i'm, saying junior. Seniors so now.

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Speaker 1: When you do go, pro you're ready kind of. Old.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs and so now you got another nine ten years to, play you know What i'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying so that's you, know.

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Speaker 3: You learned something new every. Day man with the. Legend what's your Illist rutgers?

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Speaker 1: Experience you See Rucker? Park?

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Speaker 2: Yeah well, shit you KNOW i played WITH i played With Terror. SQUAD i played With Fat Jones Tterror.

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Speaker 3: Squad oh, man you hear About we're cool? Now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah we about at that. Drama SO i remember a little. Bit it was BEFORE i Was, virginia BUT i remember R jinia and In Tervis squad. Drama how did that affect your relationship With stephan was?

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Speaker 2: Crazy stuph don't remember it because we both was. Kids we first of, all we grew up.

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Speaker 1: TOGETHER i, KNOW i knew his dad and it was, mom's his, brothers, everybody you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean SO i played with The. Galachos we was always going to camps and shit. Together but when we got here to, ge, yeah both of our heads were so fucking big because we was both excited to be home, playing you, know in The. Mecca my very first GAME i never forget was ON. ABC i played against a team that traded, Me Milwaukee, bucks and we was.

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Speaker 1: Down we was down like fourteen fifteen and a.

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Speaker 2: Half we came back with, one and that was like one of the best feelings because the first HALF i stunk it. Up second HALF i got. Going he just kept giving me the, ball you know What i'm. Saying SO i thought right then and Then i'm, Like, yo this shit gonna be crazy because he KNOW i could score the, ball and he got the ball all the, time he could go do his thing when he went to you know WHAT i. Mean but when that shit, happened it was like it took us back so far because me and him both stopped hanging, Out we stopped talking to each, other and then you could see that chemistry also on the, court you know What i'm. Saying so it'll be times and he don't remember this. Shit it'll be times where like he'll be trying to create and make a play and he'll pass me the.

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Speaker 1: Ball it'll probably.

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Speaker 2: Be like seven seconds on the, clock but he'll pass it to Where i'm not arranged to catch and shoot or catch and do.

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Speaker 1: Something it might be at my. Ankles i'm, sixteen SO i gotta go get. It you feel like he was doing it on? Purpose what do you mean he was right, exactly SO i would have to go get the. BALL i would have been down to get it by the TIME i square myself. Up NOW i see him running right behind the ball to get the. Ball you know What i'm. Saying so it'll be stuff like. That but, yeah it, definitely it definitely definitely affected. Us look at that whole Lot man. Squad he wasn't. Around he wasn't, Around So i'm gonna tell.

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Speaker 3: You i'm gonna tell you another. Story he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Studio back, then you know. Exactly this was.

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Speaker 3: Ning my, god a lot of PEOPLE i don't.

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Speaker 4: Know i'm, HAPPY i, Said i'm.

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Speaker 3: Happy, yeah i't.

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Speaker 4: Know let me tell. You let me tell you you have a you have a rep. Study, YEAH i talk about that funny with this, guy because Like i'll be meeting people like for the first, time Like John Wading machine and certain. Dudes but you And murder be, like, yeah remember you first? Mixtape he got? It he always had his, feet you.

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Speaker 2: Know so back in the, day, man we we used to we was doing the podcast stuff before it even.

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Speaker 1: Started oh. Wow. Yeah so it was called off top radio in the.

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Speaker 2: Studio so we had my man was A, dj so he had all the new music and bringing artists in and ship like. That then he had models doing the interviews and. Ship so it was it was like one of the first podcasts before podcasts just started on way back. Then but let me let me tell you a funny story about THE G Unit Terror squad. Ship so Fifth hat just brought. Me it wasn't The spinner, chain but it.

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Speaker 1: Was it was.

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Speaker 2: Similar it was A G unit chain And i'm in. Season so we fly To miami getting ready to play the heat and. Ship so we go to the club AND i see everybody FROM ts, right.

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Speaker 3: So you, know it's me and my.

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Speaker 1: Man So i'm jeweled. Up i'm feeling. Good i'm In, miami you. KNOW i walk in the, club everything. SHIFT i see these. Niggas i'm, like oh, yo ain't no, Way i'm getting out of here, RIGHT a.

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Speaker 4: Whole bunch Of spanish niggas so sous.

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Speaker 2: Pieces SO i TELL i tell the, Host i'm, like, yo you gotta put us away, different you, know put us somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so so they must have seen WHAT i was trying to do whatever. Whatever SO i get to my, section way away from these, motherfuckers and and next THING i, know BEFORE i call order, bottles they had already sent bottles. Up SO i was, like, Okay SO i was, like you know what what they? Drinking SO i send some bottles back down and ship like, that because that's basically if they did.

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Speaker 4: That joe Rich, shelter pistol p everything. Exactly the problem with shoot you know, here we're gonna send you these. Battles we actually would have cheered with.

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Speaker 1: You, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure it was over THAT.

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Speaker 3: I didn't walk into a.

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Speaker 2: Track and then on the flip side right to talk about the step. Ship we was in L. A we was in L a shooting banks, video hands, up And steph came through in the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Limo you, know niggas was stretch.

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Speaker 2: Limo he comes through in the stretch limo a bunch of, people, models whatever, whatever and he dripped out and god rest is soul p From Mob deep was, Like, yo he ain't leaving here without that. Ship Sung i'm on. That i'm, like, no.

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Speaker 3: Like he ain't leaving here with.

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Speaker 1: That So i'm, like, nah we we're. Good we. Teammates Think Paul.

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Speaker 4: Barry got you think he got Called jack back in the, days remember, when because remember? When remember when what you said.

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Speaker 1: You won't be slipping like, yeah, YEAH i don't, KNOW i you were no. MURDER i think something happened like, that something something like.

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Speaker 4: That, yeah, No i'm just saying you AND i just remember that when j put him in the H i know he was hot over that.

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Speaker 2: SHIP i know he was hot Over so you know it might have. Happened but but now step for one of. Us, man you gotta look out for the.

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Speaker 3: Fact definitely definitely.

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Speaker 1: Legend we're trying to get him on head next to as well many make it, Happen, yeah make it. Happen so we do something we call a quick fire, around, right and that's so we had questions right Quick So pattison on n Y.

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Speaker 3: C you know he's gonna Say, Jersey that's WHAT i. SAID i don't, Know, yeah you don't. Know it might be a hard.

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Speaker 1: Ques let the man answer the. Question he gonna Go. JERSEY i, Mean patterson is. Home, man you.

00:25:41
Speaker 2: Can't you can't get what you can get out Of New York. City like there's so many, borrows so many different spots like. SHIP i, Mean brooklyn is looking totally, Different queens is looking, different you know WHAT i.

00:25:53
Speaker 1: Mean so my city don't look. Different still.

00:25:58
Speaker 2: Shelter, pattison BUT i, mean you, know homeless. Home But New york it provides so many different.

00:26:03
Speaker 1: Things, definitely ah.

00:26:07
Speaker 2: MAN i mean obviously the hometown right. Here you, Know, nordy those those my. Guys they took care of me in.

00:26:13
Speaker 1: College yeah, yeah.

00:26:17
Speaker 3: He was, yeah, yeah.

00:26:19
Speaker 2: Yeah so SO i went To nova And nova had A nike deal AND kg From. Nordy he you, know he loves basketball and, ship so they will always get you, know the newest, ship you, know The pennies and The jordan's or. Whatever so he will send me the kicks like, yo y'all Played kentucky on you, KNOW, cbs your, Waddies i'm gonna send. These so at that, Time i'm the number one player in the. Country there's no number.

00:26:49
Speaker 1: One playing the country type ship we just Put that's.

00:26:59
Speaker 2: So it's no N i l, Deals we're not getting no, money no. Nothing SO i went to Lap. AS i was, like, look It's. Nike i'm still in the same. Brand i'm wearing different. Shoes so they just started flooding me with different shoes and ship like. That so you, know they kept me. Freshman but you, know as far as far as rappers In, jersey, like you, KNOW i rock with a little bit of everybody.

00:27:20
Speaker 3: Man Like murder put me on THE.

00:27:23
Speaker 1: Lbl so you, KNOW i called Myself. JERSEY i don't just, say you, Know i'm From. PATTERSON i move around And Jersey jersey all.

00:27:32
Speaker 4: Over and for, sure what was it like growing up In patterson back? Then, well you, know moving not Just, patterson just moving.

00:27:37
Speaker 2: SHY i seen the Movie Lean On, me, Right, Yeah SO i grew up like WHEN i was in in PRE. K WHEN i pre, k let's say third, grade my my school was on one corner my part my house was on the same, block And East Side High school was right behind.

00:27:54
Speaker 1: Me so when that crack ever Hit, nigga it was. On it was. Crazy it was.

00:28:00
Speaker 2: Crazy you start, seeing you, know guys that was going to school now high on the. Drug then you started seeing the cats that didn't have no money with. Money it was, like, yo what the then you, start you, know as a, kid you start seeing all the blue, tops the red, tops yellow tops all. Around it was, like, yo this ship is this ship is. Unreal you know What i'm. Saying but But patterson is like any other city, man any other, borough.

00:28:26
Speaker 1: You know What i'm.

00:28:27
Speaker 2: Saying but you, know for us, man LIKE i always tell the, youngsters like with the gang banging, ship, right the city is too Small New, York.

00:28:36
Speaker 1: La you got laying you can move around a little, bit and even In New york it's still, small you know What i'm.

00:28:42
Speaker 2: Saying, Big but you, know In, patterson like you can have an incident with your paulse you, know In patterson, like you can have an incident downtown and you could live on one side of the town and before you get, home that person could even catch up to.

00:28:58
Speaker 1: You you know What i'm. Saying so you, know but But patterson is like any other hood.

00:29:02
Speaker 4: Man yeah, no but you but you made, It we all made, it and you know that all is. Good and you, know sometimes you look back and you'd be, like, damn look look at What i've been. Through like right, now you could be you could stay in calubasas In, Cali california and Be, hollywood but you come back talk about your mentorship and how you work with the kids In jersey because you don't have to do.

00:29:21
Speaker 1: That.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: Yeah SO i started my Program Tim Thomas players my rookie year in ninety. Seven so this summer makes twenty nine. Summers, yeah twenty nine summers.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: For the, kids for the. Kids.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: Yeah so the program, itself we produced twenty eight, pros twenty McDonald's All, americans AND i sent over fifteen k kids off the.

00:29:44
Speaker 1: College so that's just the start in, life you know WHAT i.

00:29:47
Speaker 2: Mean that's, good and you, know now being back and coaching high school ball and just trying to share my experiences with the, kids you know WHAT i, mean because you know a lot of, them you, know they don't don't really have that desire like we had like to try to make it. Out they're there in better situations financially and stuff like, that so you, know the hunger is not.

00:30:10
Speaker 1: There SO i just my social. Media, yeah, yes it's.

00:30:13
Speaker 2: So it's so many different things, this you, know that's that's out. There and we ain't even get into the, girls you know WHAT i, Mean you know WHAT i. Mean so but with all with all of that that's going. On i'm, like you guys got it made because now if you put into work for four years in high school and your parents is paying for trainers and au and this is that you can reap the benefits of it with the N I l you know What i'm. Saying so all you gotta do is put in the work for four, years you know What i'm. Saying so you know it's kind of, hard but you, know at the same, TIME i enjoy.

00:30:42
Speaker 1: It.

00:30:43
Speaker 4: Man you, know eight million in college, YEAR i might stay for a couple of years instead of rolling my dice with THE, nba, Right, MURK i ain't know all. That both The jersey eight million.

00:30:57
Speaker 3: Kids i'm. STAYING i, like let me stay one more.

00:30:59
Speaker 1: Year.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: Yo it's a kid that actually came through my. Program he was he was At tennessee young young boy Is. AKI i don't really know a, situation but if you go on on social, media you'll see he's trying now to fight the N c DOUBLE.

00:31:18
Speaker 1: A to get back into college. Basketball.

00:31:20
Speaker 2: Wow so therefore he probably doesn't have a real situation pro, wize or he's probably not on on the on the draft board as a high draft picks and now he's trying to get they want to get back into.

00:31:32
Speaker 3: College, yeah, man making that over, here you know What i'm.

00:31:38
Speaker 1: Saying, so so you know how rappers always ask each, other who's your top? Three and, this that and the? THIRD i want to know who's? That your your dream?

00:31:48
Speaker 3: Squad, yeah your dream, team your top? FIVE i can't put you gotta know you gotta put. IT i.

00:31:56
Speaker 4: Can't you gotta be able to put himself in. It come on his topic that you want to play, with put himself in. It you put yourself.

00:32:02
Speaker 2: In So i'm gonna. Go i'm gonna. Go i'm gonna. Go i'm gonna Go shock at the. Center i'm gonna Go Tim duncan at the. Four i'm gonna, Go scottie at the at the, Three Scottie pippen at the.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: Three Scotty, Okay scotty because he played both, Fans scotty bugging out a little bit. Lately but, yeah that's my. Guy that's that's my O. G that's that's my. G you, know Round harper's my OL. G, well you, know sometimes sometimes you gotta leader the big guy, along you, know M. J but but, again they both won the same amount of.

00:32:44
Speaker 2: Range yeah you can't knock all. That but, Yes, scotty yeah yeah too, much too? Much yeah, YEAH i got. You whatever you're, drinking.

00:32:55
Speaker 3: How do you how do you balance?

00:32:56
Speaker 4: That because like a lot of ball players like between the, finances like you have, kids you, know you're.

00:33:01
Speaker 1: MARRIED i need to get. THIS i need to get.

00:33:06
Speaker 2: SO i ended Up scottie at the. Two at the, two you gotta, go M j the two and at the one man you gotta go.

00:33:16
Speaker 1: Magic magic magic over step BECAUSE i had people all give they, go they debate over that to steph magic. Step.

00:33:23
Speaker 2: Yeah BUT i mean, again it's it all depends on what you. LIKE i got so, Me i'm gonna, Gold i'm gonna go more TO i could have went further deeper and say guys like Elgem bella.

00:33:35
Speaker 1: Got you know What i'm saying. Back, yeah but IF i said, that these young kids like who WHAT i like?

00:33:42
Speaker 3: THAT i like that.

00:33:42
Speaker 2: Stuff that's a big, five you know WHAT i. Mean so and Then i'll be coming off the.

00:33:47
Speaker 1: Bench i'll come off the bench and, yeah you know he's.

00:33:54
Speaker 3: Hype he knew you, THAT i, KNOW i know he didn't.

00:33:58
Speaker 4: Know my, God I'm i'm you know What i'm, saying he being in those.

00:34:04
Speaker 3: Bleeds you, know how do you how do you balance the?

00:34:08
Speaker 4: Lifestyle BECAUSE i, look when you look at, basketball, right a lot of the cocky players that you, know you know out, there got all the chicks and cause you, know he not GOING i feel, like do you feel like those guys are gonna win? Chips or the guys that settle, down have their wife lay back like a. Shay you look at the. Shade he don't look like he club a. Lot he don't like he's. Outside he might have a little, jewelry, like but how do you feel about? That, LIKE i, mean it's how you balance the lifestyle and trying to win a chip at the same.

00:34:39
Speaker 2: Time but the season is so, long, Man like you you with your, brother it's like, y'all y'all always on the, road, right so you y'all probably together out of the, year maybe eight months out of the year with. Traveling so it's the same thing with, basketball. Right so guy's got to have different outlets to kind of get their minds off of.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: The day to day, work because it is, work you.

00:35:00
Speaker 2: Know What i'm, Saying it's. Fun it's the best job in the. World one of the best jobs in the. World but you got to, have you, know different things to kind of balance yourself. Out some guys like the, gamble some guys like the, club some guys like the, fish some guys like the you, know fly planes and do different, shit you know WHAT i. Mean but at the end of the, day man, like every man is for, themselves you know What i'm. Saying so you know it's, there it's going to be. Presented it's no. Secret but it's how you indulge in, it you know What i'm. Saying and some guys dive in and they can't, swim you know What i'm. Saying some, guys you, know figure it out shit like. That so but for, me man, LIKE i just knew my upbringing and THAT i was the only guy in my family to break the generational. Curse SO i just knew at that POINT i got nieces and nephews behind. Me there's no WAY i could just you, know be out here just going going.

00:35:56
Speaker 1: Wow you know What i'm. Saying, NOW i have my, moments.

00:35:59
Speaker 3: You know What i'm.

00:35:59
Speaker 1: Saying not your, jewelry you got all of. That you, KNOW i have, planes all that, ship do all that you know WHAT i. Mean but he was touched. Up he was on the street LIKE i. WAS i was Was, JACKY i was Looking Jack daves back. Then that's WHY i came out and want no.

00:36:17
Speaker 4: Ship it's the only guy that. Could you, know when you go to THE V I p, section you know the section you never in THE V I p section connection CONNECTION b ON b sections never, right you, know shout out To, branton but you know he's the man Got Joe.

00:36:40
Speaker 3: Joe look shout the. Trade.

00:36:43
Speaker 4: Now look he let those these sources out because then people start calling R So, look he's the only guy that can.

00:36:53
Speaker 3: Have like when you go to the bar that.

00:36:54
Speaker 4: Has never Been hennessy and nothing back. There, yo give me And Tim thomas The. Hennessy, yeah it's me, me you.

00:37:06
Speaker 2: Uh, me You jada kiss AND i want to say. Spree it's somebody else that Drink. Henny only few that that drink that honey back.

00:37:15
Speaker 3: Next, year listen that. Year next. Year don't. Worry i'm going to have, Legit LENNY V I.

00:37:21
Speaker 1: P this.

00:37:22
Speaker 3: Game you gotta Get, Turbulus. Tony get to the. Game got to come to the. Game everybody's.

00:37:28
Speaker 4: There that the last game when one GAME i went To, Uh Dana white was, There Gil?

00:37:34
Speaker 3: King it was so.

00:37:36
Speaker 1: Many it was one. GAME i THINK i was kind of. Massive THEN i, SAID i Think i've seen. You Then Patrick ewing it was.

00:37:41
Speaker 4: Stopped oh, yeah oh, yeah like a Whole. Nick oh, yeah yeah yeah. Maybe oh, Yeah TIM i. WAS i was there To John starks found that he was the shoutout To guard and The, Dream James, Charity James, dolan you know On New York, knicks the N Y. Rangers I'm New york EVERYWHERE i go BECAUSE i always look At New york or is we the most hated everywhere where we?

00:38:10
Speaker 1: Go?

00:38:11
Speaker 4: Man that's how it was back in the. Day out of, town you, Know New York nigga come out of. Town we mash up the.

00:38:16
Speaker 3: Town you know What i'm. Saying, so but talk about the water man because we should have broke them up.

00:38:21
Speaker 1: Here yeah, Yeah i'm gonna get my water up. Here.

00:38:23
Speaker 2: Man it's CALLED rx. Water you know it's. Good take some water got electrolytes in. It so if you're having a night, out you're drinking That branson and whatever you need to. Recover you don't need no red, ball, no none of. That got drink drink before you go to. Sleep soon as you wake up in the, morning bounce right. Back so we're gonna get that up.

00:38:40
Speaker 1: There, yes we're gonna get this up out of. There let's turn it.

00:38:46
Speaker 4: Around SO i heard the murder talking, earlier, right AND i know he was his, kids a young seven, right and you was talking about. Them he wants, to you, know get trained by, you and you told him don't put too much pressure on.

00:38:58
Speaker 3: Him now what do you mean by?

00:38:59
Speaker 1: That? Well seven? Right? Seven? EIGHT i got eight year, old a five year old THAT i want to get the.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: Best so my son is, seven, Right so at this, age, man you don't want to take away from their livelihood because when they love it's like. Rap, Right when you guys love, it you're gonna dive all the way, in you know WHAT i. Mean so when the kids fall in love with whatever sport it, is they're gonna fall in love with it and dive all the way. In and that's when they're gonna come to, you acting you for. Help right, now if you force it on, them you might be taking the love away from, them you know What i'm. Saying and that's what's going on with a lot of the. Kids in youth, sports the parents is trying to live through the kids because they seeing what we. See they Seeing lebron Or steph signing.

00:39:46
Speaker 1: For Three.

00:39:49
Speaker 2: Hold, up, yeah so they see. That now now it's at the lower level with, college so they seeing. It so now that everybody's trying to speed up the, process you know WHAT i. Saying everybody has, talent but if you don't love, it you're never gonna be able.

00:40:05
Speaker 1: To do that shit every day, consistently you know What i'm. Saying so it's, like, yeah so like, y'all y'all been performing the last year and a, Half, right the songs ain't. Changed you're doing the same, songs different, spot, right but you got to get up for that, Ship, Like, yo we're doing this on that's on this. Song you gotta get up to go perform that.

00:40:24
Speaker 2: Ship and it's it's just like that with, Sports, right you gotta go travel or, Whatever Saint louis Or, california, whatever.

00:40:33
Speaker 1: But you're going to just play that same, game you know WHAT i. Mean so if you if you force them.

00:40:38
Speaker 2: Now you might just drain them from, it you know WHAT i, mean from the, experience or you might just pull all the blood away from them and they won't even love it no, more.

00:40:48
Speaker 1: You know WHAT i.

00:40:49
Speaker 3: Mean so like you hear that, parents you hear that out.

00:40:52
Speaker 1: There don't put too much pressure on THE i got them playing, basketball baseball and, soccer so you, SAID i whatever one they actually fall in, love like sa we worked.

00:41:03
Speaker 2: With like my, son he's playing, soccer he's playing. Basketball he just started hitting the. Baseball so you.

00:41:09
Speaker 3: Don't know What that's, dope, man that's. Dope. Man i'm glad to have you.

00:41:20
Speaker 4: Here. Man we Got Tim thomas, here took out his time out of million dollar schedule to be on the podcast we loved from the Hard Rock.

00:41:28
Speaker 3: You know What i'm, Saying, MURDER i, mean what's.

00:41:30
Speaker 1: GOOD i was glad to have you on my, show AND i would like to have you.

00:41:35
Speaker 3: My guy who started this.

00:41:36
Speaker 5: Mess good luck surviving the off season football.

00:41:55
Speaker 3: Fans at, first that was. AFRAID i was Petrified football's. O it's like a part of.

00:42:02
Speaker 4: Me just died inside two hundred ds two footballs. Back but TONIGHT i won't just cry Because i've.

00:42:08
Speaker 3: Got always to play and that's the place with hard rock BED i we.

00:42:13
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00:42:15
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