Ep:138 Sasquatch Of The Dungeness River

<v Speaker 1>I saw a hand on the ground. They're not binoculars.
<v Speaker 1>I see a hand, A huge hand, huge hand.
<v Speaker 2>Where I took my binoclars away, I could see nothing
<v Speaker 2>else there.
<v Speaker 1>There's no hand, there's nothing there, so I put them
<v Speaker 1>back up. I can see the hand, that's all I
<v Speaker 1>could see.
<v Speaker 2>It looks like it's sitting behind a plant or a bush,
<v Speaker 2>big bush in the hand.
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of just sticking out on the ground, like
<v Speaker 1>propping them up, you know. Like now I'm onto the hand.
<v Speaker 1>I see the hand. I'm like, okay, I got you
<v Speaker 1>know something here.
<v Speaker 2>When I don't look through the binoculars, when I look
<v Speaker 2>through my regular eyes, it's glistening like it's morning dew
<v Speaker 2>and the sunshine through it.
<v Speaker 1>But there's nothing there.
<v Speaker 2>I could put my binoculars up, look at it and
<v Speaker 2>it's fine. Take them away and it listens. But you
<v Speaker 2>only saw it when you were when you were looking
<v Speaker 2>through the binoculars.
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, like, once you get to.
<v Speaker 2>The point like where you see the eyes that are
<v Speaker 2>glowing red, I don't know, you started to wonder what
<v Speaker 2>else is possible.
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to welcome Zach to the show. Zach emailed
<v Speaker 3>me a while back with some really interesting experiences he's
<v Speaker 3>had and I can't wait to hear about him. Start
<v Speaker 3>us off where it all began. Man, you're in Washington,
<v Speaker 3>I believe you said. Is this where your experiences took place?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everything is happening within like a really pretty close area.
<v Speaker 1>My very first experience.
<v Speaker 2>I live in Squam, which is on like the north
<v Speaker 2>side of the Olympic Peninsula in Washington. Uh So my
<v Speaker 2>first experience was it starts out like a lot of
<v Speaker 2>these stories do, which is like pretty ironic. I mean
<v Speaker 2>every time I hear these stories and someone says starts
<v Speaker 2>talking like this, I'm like, yep, that really happened. But
<v Speaker 2>we went down and fished in this. We walked down
<v Speaker 2>to this spot up on the upper done this whatever.
<v Speaker 2>So we walked way down to this. The world was
<v Speaker 2>washed out for about I don't know, two years maybe,
<v Speaker 2>so they're like, I don't think there's been bringing many
<v Speaker 2>people down in this area, but me and my buddy
<v Speaker 2>walk down there. We walked down there.
<v Speaker 1>And fish for a couple hours. All the way down.
<v Speaker 2>Nothing weird happens where, you know, nothing that sets off
<v Speaker 2>our our alarm bells or I mean, everything is totally
<v Speaker 2>normal on our way back up, we started hearing something
<v Speaker 2>with stuff like it sounds like someone's walking next to us,
<v Speaker 2>parallel us out. Yeah, yeah, like it's kind of this
<v Speaker 2>is what you know. You hear this all the time
<v Speaker 2>in these stories.
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why they're always parallel on you. But
<v Speaker 2>that exact thing happened to us. We were kind of
<v Speaker 2>on guard a little bit already because when we were
<v Speaker 2>walking out, we saw what we thought was a fresh
<v Speaker 2>cougar track that was kind of falling our tracks going in.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we didn't know it's anything on the way
<v Speaker 1>when we're walking down and I'm guessing you eat from
<v Speaker 1>the top where my truck was parked.
<v Speaker 2>Wherever we walked down to the river was probably about
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, half a mile, but you walk down
<v Speaker 2>this washed out, old logging road and there's you can
<v Speaker 2>just tell no one's been on the strood or forever.
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, you know, we're done fishing, we're walking back up.
<v Speaker 2>We hear some some branches popping. You know, it sounded
<v Speaker 2>like someone's just walking right by you. Whatever it was,
<v Speaker 2>it felt like we should be able to see it.
<v Speaker 1>We never did.
<v Speaker 2>We end up fighting out. You almost up towards my truck.
<v Speaker 2>We signed a footprint and I think, I say a
<v Speaker 2>picture of that. So we found this footprint up there
<v Speaker 2>and like and so the picture there's a beside the
<v Speaker 2>eleven boot.
<v Speaker 1>That's my buddy's boot right next to it. So I
<v Speaker 1>mean it shows you how maybe that footprint was.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty big.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's on a logging road.
<v Speaker 2>So that footprint was actually almost a full inch into
<v Speaker 2>the ground.
<v Speaker 1>So whatever it was was super heavy. But anyway, so
<v Speaker 1>we just me and my buddy, we kind of got.
<v Speaker 2>Into this routine, like wherever we heard the stick pop,
<v Speaker 2>we would just stop and one of us would pointed,
<v Speaker 2>like to exactly where we heard it.
<v Speaker 1>And at one.
<v Speaker 2>Point, whatever it was took off running and I would
<v Speaker 2>guess it was about like fifteen steps. It went from
<v Speaker 2>from one side of us and fifteen steps and went
<v Speaker 2>all the way to the other side of us, and
<v Speaker 2>it was gone. And that was the last we heard
<v Speaker 2>of it.
<v Speaker 3>Behind you or in front of you, did it cross
<v Speaker 3>the road.
<v Speaker 2>It went behind us, but it was like so we
<v Speaker 2>were kind of like in this routine where after walking
<v Speaker 2>up this hill, you know, we got out when we
<v Speaker 2>started hearing these you know.
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was.
<v Speaker 2>We'd hear like a pop, yes, whatever it was, it
<v Speaker 2>sounded like it was bipedal, and then all of a
<v Speaker 2>sudden it just went like at one point we were
<v Speaker 2>pointing at it and it just went pop up, and
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden it was just gone up the
<v Speaker 2>hill behind us and to their side.
<v Speaker 3>You never saw any like brush movie or anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>No, No, we did it. I mean it happened in
<v Speaker 2>a wind too. It just was like it was super quick.
<v Speaker 2>You could feel the ground and vibrate with the steps. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it just was all that just happened quick. And at
<v Speaker 2>that point I've never had any kind of big foot
<v Speaker 2>stuff in my life ever. I mean I was like,
<v Speaker 2>that was the first thing from my mind. We had
<v Speaker 2>no idea what it was, just kind of like maybe
<v Speaker 2>we found the footprint. Maybe about like a half hour
<v Speaker 2>after that, almost were at the top of the trail
<v Speaker 2>and that kind of like down stone on it. At
<v Speaker 2>that point, I did like a thing on Facebook when
<v Speaker 2>I posted a picture.
<v Speaker 1>Of the of the footprint.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just turned into this big thing, like I
<v Speaker 2>got a bunch of people reaching back to me. That
<v Speaker 2>kind of set me on like, well, maybe there's something
<v Speaker 2>really going on up there, and a couple of people
<v Speaker 2>reached back.
<v Speaker 1>To me and told me that they've had encounters up there.
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was kind of like, okay, so maybe I'm
<v Speaker 1>not going crazy here.
<v Speaker 3>What did your buddy think that was?
<v Speaker 1>With you?
<v Speaker 2>He'sought the same thing. You know, we were both coming
<v Speaker 2>in the same boat. We were both on the cougar
<v Speaker 2>track at first. Between the footprint and the sounds of
<v Speaker 2>the you could tell whatever it was was walking by
<v Speaker 2>us was like was not a cougar, was not something
<v Speaker 2>it was walking with Like boom boom boom.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're not really going to hear a cougar if
<v Speaker 3>it's like paralleling you.
<v Speaker 1>You know, right exactly.
<v Speaker 3>I assume you're like from the area. Had you heard
<v Speaker 3>any bigfoot stuff prior to this?
<v Speaker 1>No? I had it.
<v Speaker 2>That's the weird part, Like you would have after I
<v Speaker 2>already having these, you know, like after I started having
<v Speaker 2>the other.
<v Speaker 1>Encounters and.
<v Speaker 2>I got into touch with people around here, then I
<v Speaker 2>started hearing a bunch of stuff. But at that point
<v Speaker 2>I had never heard one one story or anything. Huh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>super crazy.
<v Speaker 3>I just know, like, you know, there's like an entire
<v Speaker 3>research group or whatever that's kind of based out of
<v Speaker 3>the Olympic Peninsula called the Olympic Project, And I've got
<v Speaker 3>a lot of friends out in Washington that do this,
<v Speaker 3>so I was just curious, you know, like how it
<v Speaker 3>is out there bigfoot is just something you grow up
<v Speaker 3>with hearing about, or if it's still kind of like
<v Speaker 3>contained within the bigfoot community like it is here.
<v Speaker 2>No, I think in more I think, especially around here,
<v Speaker 2>it's a little more than than the normal community. But
<v Speaker 2>I also think that I don't like I talked to
<v Speaker 2>a couple of those guys from the big are from
<v Speaker 2>the Olympic Research Project same course, and I think me
<v Speaker 2>and him were talking for them minute, and then Ron
<v Speaker 2>Morehead too, I like, I had lunch with Ron Morehead
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times. He actually lived right pretty close
<v Speaker 2>to me here and squimmed for a little bit and
<v Speaker 2>I said, my friend request and we end.
<v Speaker 1>Up talking and then we ended up going out to
<v Speaker 1>lunch a couple of times.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, just like a great guy, super super great guy.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Ron Moorehead is like one of the legends
<v Speaker 3>of the bigfoot world. That's cool, man, all right, So
<v Speaker 3>what is the next thing that happened? Because like you
<v Speaker 3>mentioned some stuff in your email, man that I've been
<v Speaker 3>waiting to hear it.
<v Speaker 1>It's weird, that's the thing.
<v Speaker 2>Like the first story is so I don't said basic,
<v Speaker 2>it's not basic, it's calming.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where everybody you know that the parallel story like
<v Speaker 1>that's super common, right.
<v Speaker 2>Basically what happens after this is like it just sends
<v Speaker 2>me on this on this whirlwind like where I'm like
<v Speaker 2>just going up there as much as I can and
<v Speaker 2>just spend a lot of time up there.
<v Speaker 1>The same area.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all this stuff happens like within I would say
<v Speaker 2>maybe like a three mile square area. Yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty close. It's all up at the top of
<v Speaker 2>the Dungeoness River area.
<v Speaker 1>Here's here's a really really crazy one.
<v Speaker 2>And we were up there and we're sitting up there
<v Speaker 2>and there was like this little cave area and we
<v Speaker 2>see these two.
<v Speaker 3>Glowing red eyes inside the cave, like inside the.
<v Speaker 2>Cave like so I never I never saw what the
<v Speaker 2>glowing red eyes represented, but they were they were definitely.
<v Speaker 2>This one was probably I don't know, it was midday,
<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't like it was you know, it was
<v Speaker 2>some kind of reflection.
<v Speaker 1>It was midday, but you could totally see that.
<v Speaker 2>They look like a like a tail light, you know,
<v Speaker 2>like how red a tail light is.
<v Speaker 1>It was like that redo.
<v Speaker 2>Then there was like these little white they looked like
<v Speaker 2>big hot So there's like a bunch of his white
<v Speaker 2>copon balls spread out around kind of like the entrance
<v Speaker 2>of the caves. Okay, Like as you like we're looking
<v Speaker 2>at this, you're kind of you're kind of piecing this together.
<v Speaker 1>As as like you're you're looking at it, you see like.
<v Speaker 2>White comba bom bomb, glowing red eyeys, what the heck?
<v Speaker 1>And then you see like a head of a sheep
<v Speaker 1>and it looked like it came out to me looked
<v Speaker 1>like a describe this right. It looked like a like
<v Speaker 1>a set up like a scarecrow. I don't know what
<v Speaker 1>it was said on, but there was like part of.
<v Speaker 2>The the sheep was set up with the head sticking
<v Speaker 2>up pointed out kind of by the entrance of the caves.
<v Speaker 1>And then it had a bunch of those little white copballs.
<v Speaker 1>Then you started looking at the copballs, they looked like
<v Speaker 1>they were trunks of the sheep that were tore apart into.
<v Speaker 2>Pieces, because you can see like pieces of the they
<v Speaker 2>were like red on the backside, like blood was tied
<v Speaker 2>to them.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is like just a typical like sheep
<v Speaker 3>that you'ld see on somebody's farm.
<v Speaker 2>So here's the other crazy part of that was, like
<v Speaker 2>if you're driving up to this road to the spot,
<v Speaker 2>like if if you were just a drive up and
<v Speaker 2>then we're going up there, you.
<v Speaker 1>Passed like one of the last houses going.
<v Speaker 2>Up once you hit the logging roads, one of the
<v Speaker 2>last homesteads used to have these sheep up there. Now
<v Speaker 2>in the spot where the sheep were, there was a
<v Speaker 2>tree that was upside down jammed in the ground.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, so the roots were sticking up upside that.
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that big of a tree, Like I'm not
<v Speaker 1>saying it was like a you know.
<v Speaker 2>Like a huge tree, it was. I mean a couple
<v Speaker 2>of kids might have been able to do that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but still that's that's like something that you hear
<v Speaker 3>about sometimes in bigfoot areas.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, and that's what I've seen.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've seen that before on on like our shows
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. So you know, at the time, like when
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff has happened, I have no idea, like
<v Speaker 2>I'm all piece of this stuff together, like years later,
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that was like something that was like super wild.
<v Speaker 1>I actually had a really cool.
<v Speaker 2>Video of that for a long time, but I ended
<v Speaker 2>up losing. And I'm like super bummed about that.
<v Speaker 3>Did the eyes like move or anything?
<v Speaker 1>Uh, they were Yeah, they didn't move.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was maybe in the eyes, you know they were.
<v Speaker 2>The cave itself wasn't that big, and the cave is
<v Speaker 2>still there. Like if you were here at me, I
<v Speaker 2>could take you up to the rite where it happened.
<v Speaker 1>But this was like so that was the second thing
<v Speaker 1>that happened after seeing the footprint.
<v Speaker 2>The third one that was when we had the first
<v Speaker 2>sighting had girlfriend and her friend was super interesting and
<v Speaker 2>it's like you have to imagine that. Like at this time,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like obsessed with it, like I'm trying to get anybody,
<v Speaker 2>everybody to go up there, like I want to show
<v Speaker 2>everybody this, like this is how it was about. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not like that anymore, but at that time, I was
<v Speaker 2>like anybody, I'll take anybody up there. I just wanted
<v Speaker 2>to show them what like what I've been seeing, right,
<v Speaker 2>And so my girlfriend's best friend at the time, she
<v Speaker 2>was willing to go up there. So we go up there,
<v Speaker 2>one morning, we're driving up and I just got.
<v Speaker 1>This new Toyota Tacoma. I think it was a O two.
<v Speaker 2>Had the extended it was an extended cab, but it
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the four door.
<v Speaker 1>So like, you're pretty whoever's in the back seat is
<v Speaker 1>sitting pretty close to you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so we're driving up, and so we passed
<v Speaker 2>the house where the sheep was gone with the upside
<v Speaker 2>down tree, and then there's one more. There's a couple, actually,
<v Speaker 2>there's a couple more house homesteads up there past that.
<v Speaker 2>We're almost to the very last homestead, and she's sitting
<v Speaker 2>like kind of behind me, and she just starts freaking out.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, stop, stop stop. She's just whacking me
<v Speaker 1>on the back of the head. I hit the.
<v Speaker 2>Brakes, and she says that she sees the one walking
<v Speaker 2>through this field, and it cased me, kased me in
<v Speaker 2>a while to see it, maybe fifteen to twenty seconds,
<v Speaker 2>but I finally do see it, and she's right.
<v Speaker 1>There's like a nine.
<v Speaker 2>Foot tall big foot walking along this tree line, going
<v Speaker 2>the opposite way that we were probably seventy yards away.
<v Speaker 2>It's going after these two deer up there, and these
<v Speaker 2>two deer were grazing in this field, and so it's
<v Speaker 2>like it's just walking towards these two deer.
<v Speaker 1>I stop, I get out, We jump out, and.
<v Speaker 2>It sees us like I all the commotion. When I
<v Speaker 2>stopped my truck, it realized that we had seen it.
<v Speaker 2>Probably it dropped down to all fours just paw from
<v Speaker 2>this position of all fours looking at us for like
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like maybe three seconds, two seconds. It's
<v Speaker 2>really hard to tell them that moment because you know,
<v Speaker 2>like on one hand, it feels like it's like three
<v Speaker 2>hours long, but on the other hand, it's like you're
<v Speaker 2>probably like it might've been half a second. I don't
<v Speaker 2>even know, it just was. It was pure chaos in
<v Speaker 2>this moment. But it looked down and my personal thought
<v Speaker 2>was it was trying to make this think it was
<v Speaker 2>a bear, and once it realized like we weren't buying it,
<v Speaker 2>it just stood.
<v Speaker 1>It went right back up, stood back up, walk.
<v Speaker 2>Right between the two deer. Now, this is crazy. I've
<v Speaker 2>never seen a deer do this in my life, and
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a ton of deer in my life. The
<v Speaker 2>deer like arc their backs like when cats get scared. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like how when cats get scared, they arc
<v Speaker 2>their back and all their hair stands up. Yeah, these
<v Speaker 2>deer did that, the arc your back. It could have
<v Speaker 2>grabbed either the deer walk within like a foot or
<v Speaker 2>two of them walk right between the two of them
<v Speaker 2>hit the tree line and just dropped to all fours
<v Speaker 2>and was gone. And I never saw it again.
<v Speaker 3>Wow, Like the deer were just like frozen in their place.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're frozen in fear. They're like, holy shit, don't
<v Speaker 2>see it, don't look at me.
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I never and I'm still I've never seen a deer
<v Speaker 2>do that to this day, where their their back was
<v Speaker 2>like fully arc like that with.
<v Speaker 1>The hair standing.
<v Speaker 3>What color was the bigfoot?
<v Speaker 1>It was light brown, super light brown.
<v Speaker 3>Light brown, yeah, super light brown.
<v Speaker 1>And it was super skinny too.
<v Speaker 2>It looked like like a basketball player.
<v Speaker 1>Then it did like the Patty one. Yeah, it was
<v Speaker 1>super skinny like but it was super muscular too.
<v Speaker 2>And and I at my best guess, and I don't
<v Speaker 2>know how good I am at measurements, but I think
<v Speaker 2>it was about nine feet tall.
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't short, it was like the hair on it
<v Speaker 3>long or shorter or what did the hair look like?
<v Speaker 2>You know what the like the weird part is and
<v Speaker 2>I hate even saying this. I feel like most people
<v Speaker 2>are just roll their eyes. But it actually looked a
<v Speaker 2>lot like the the Harriet Henderson's one.
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, okay, and then.
<v Speaker 2>Stupid Like I hate I hate even saying this. I
<v Speaker 2>feel like a lot of people right now are just like,
<v Speaker 2>oh god, whatever, But yeah, that's I mean, that's that's
<v Speaker 2>how it looked like.
<v Speaker 3>When you're trying to explain what these things look like,
<v Speaker 3>it's difficult, man, because I mean, there's nothing really to
<v Speaker 3>compare it to, so you have to like draw comparisons
<v Speaker 3>to like things that you've seen, and right, right, right,
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people are familiar with Harry and the Hendersons,
<v Speaker 3>and you know, and.
<v Speaker 1>It was seventy yards away too, so it wasn't like
<v Speaker 1>it was right there. But I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>So the same day, about twenty minutes later, I had
<v Speaker 2>my next encounter, which is like super weird, right.
<v Speaker 3>I mean it can happen.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it did happen.
<v Speaker 2>This is the one that so if you look at it,
<v Speaker 2>like if you're looking at a map as like a
<v Speaker 2>crow flies or I guess has a big foot walks,
<v Speaker 2>it would be like where these two sidings happened really
<v Speaker 2>close together. But the road took like a long way
<v Speaker 2>to get back to that other spot. And so when
<v Speaker 2>I saw the next one, like mind you, this is
<v Speaker 2>probably I don't know, twenty twenty five minutes later. It
<v Speaker 2>wasn't very long. There was a little one eat a
<v Speaker 2>deer on the side of the road.
<v Speaker 3>Like roadkill.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know, but like that, So
<v Speaker 1>here's the weird part two. And this is another part
<v Speaker 1>of this, Like I lose a lot of people up there,
<v Speaker 1>because like you're gonna think, why didn't this asquatch us
<v Speaker 1>walk off?
<v Speaker 2>And like you had to hear my truck coming, because
<v Speaker 2>you know, on a logging road you can hear a
<v Speaker 2>vehicle coming like forever. You know, you feel like you
<v Speaker 2>hear them like ten minutes before they actually get there.
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can sometimes, you know, the way the
<v Speaker 2>valleys shift. And so this one, you go around this road,
<v Speaker 2>you drop down to the river across the bridge, and
<v Speaker 2>you're kind of coming back up and like so I'm
<v Speaker 2>right across from where about this time, I'm right across
<v Speaker 2>from where I saw the other one, and I see
<v Speaker 2>a deer on the side of the road on a
<v Speaker 2>dead deer on the side of the road with his
<v Speaker 2>front legs in the air and its back like it's
<v Speaker 2>almost on his.
<v Speaker 1>Back completely with legs in the air, and it looked
<v Speaker 1>like something was stuck to his stomach.
<v Speaker 2>So all right, so the legs in there right, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's laying So the head of this thing
<v Speaker 2>was laying right by the stomach of the deer, with
<v Speaker 2>the body going down in the same direction as the
<v Speaker 2>deer's body.
<v Speaker 1>So I I see this as that's going on.
<v Speaker 2>It takes a minute for the process in my head
<v Speaker 2>and says, I'm driving up in my truck.
<v Speaker 1>I see it. I see the deer in my oh
<v Speaker 1>you know that gear, and there's something going on with
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of it. For for a second.
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a raccoon eating it, and then
<v Speaker 2>I realized it was way too big to be.
<v Speaker 1>A raccoon, And so I jammed it in the park.
<v Speaker 1>And so this is how quick this all happens. I
<v Speaker 1>jammed in the park.
<v Speaker 2>Now, mind you, I just had that last sighting like
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes ago. So I'm already like, I'm like I'm ready,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like guns blaze, and I'm ready to see. I
<v Speaker 2>want to see this thing, so I jump put it
<v Speaker 2>in part. I jump out of my truck. My truck
<v Speaker 2>was still moving when I jumped.
<v Speaker 1>Out, and I did it so fast.
<v Speaker 2>I ran to the back of my truck and came
<v Speaker 2>around the back of it, and all I saw was
<v Speaker 2>the four hood the deer going over the hillside of
<v Speaker 2>this log and it went drop straight down to this hillside.
<v Speaker 3>And was gone like it carried the deer off.
<v Speaker 1>It took the deer off, but it did it.
<v Speaker 2>And like I mean, I jumped out of that truck
<v Speaker 2>and I was around the back of my truck before
<v Speaker 2>my truck while my truck was still moving almost I
<v Speaker 2>booked it around the eggs. I wanted to see what
<v Speaker 2>was that? What was what was on that deer because
<v Speaker 2>when I came around, when I pulled up to it
<v Speaker 2>was on the passenger side, so my truck kind of
<v Speaker 2>blocked it.
<v Speaker 1>When I first processed it, it was like on the
<v Speaker 1>passioner's side. Was like, oh shit, I pop it in the.
<v Speaker 2>Park and I jumped around, you know, I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>did it as fast as I as I humanly could
<v Speaker 2>possibly do.
<v Speaker 1>And that thing to have that deer to ground, that
<v Speaker 1>deer and that time span take it.
<v Speaker 2>Over that log and down the hillside, and that period
<v Speaker 2>of time was like impossible.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it.
<v Speaker 3>And the thing was like laying on top of the
<v Speaker 3>deer eating it or whatever. Yes, and it was like
<v Speaker 3>the same size as the deer body. Yeah, yeah, so
<v Speaker 3>it must have been like super strong.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, super fast too, like I don't know, but whatever
<v Speaker 2>it was was like I figured it.
<v Speaker 1>Was probably about three or four feet tall. Whenever it
<v Speaker 1>was like compare it to the deer.
<v Speaker 2>Now here's the crazy part I had at this point.
<v Speaker 2>I was a bartender at the casino here and Squilm
<v Speaker 2>at the time, and there was somebody I worked with
<v Speaker 2>that she knew somebody that was up here researching that
<v Speaker 2>was I don't know if they were part of the
<v Speaker 2>Olympic project or they were part of some group up
<v Speaker 2>here that was researching them.
<v Speaker 1>And so if the guy came and met me, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I took him up to show him the spot where
<v Speaker 1>this happened.
<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, Now, now when it happened when the deer
<v Speaker 2>took the or when the big took the deer over
<v Speaker 2>the hillside.
<v Speaker 1>And I always regret this. I was like too scared
<v Speaker 1>to peek over that edge.
<v Speaker 2>I wish I would have just looked over that head
<v Speaker 2>and seen what I seen, but I was just a
<v Speaker 2>little bit too scared. So I took these I took
<v Speaker 2>these two guys up there, and they found that they
<v Speaker 2>found the bones from the deer right on the right
<v Speaker 2>where that happened at on the bottom side there.
<v Speaker 1>And whatever it was, you know, kick the kick.
<v Speaker 2>The deer bones and broke all the bones open and
<v Speaker 2>ate the bowel marrow out of the bones.
<v Speaker 1>Now, I think how strong you got to be to
<v Speaker 1>do that. And you see a deer's red cage's red bones, all, oh,
<v Speaker 1>they're huge. Yeah. So I don't know like they were
<v Speaker 1>like these guys were.
<v Speaker 2>I think they were kind of at first or like
<v Speaker 2>this guy bullshitting us or not, and you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, and then they found these bones and these guys.
<v Speaker 2>Were like high five clapping and they're like, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>all right, you believe you tickets to show us the footprint.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, whatever, I told you, I told you guys.
<v Speaker 1>That was my that was my moment the sun there,
<v Speaker 1>you know say, like I told you.
<v Speaker 3>Guys, Yeah, a little bit of a vindication there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that was pretty cool.
<v Speaker 3>What color was the smaller one?
<v Speaker 1>Uh?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the smaller one, This one's kind of weird.
<v Speaker 2>The smaller one was way browner. It reminded me of
<v Speaker 2>I thought it looked a lot like like a buffalo's
<v Speaker 2>hide or a buffalo's.
<v Speaker 3>Fur, right, Yeah, yeah, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>Know, it was different. It was way different than the
<v Speaker 2>other one. But of course I was a lot closer
<v Speaker 2>to this one than I was the other one. So,
<v Speaker 2>and it was really fast too.
<v Speaker 1>So, but it reminded me of you know, like the
<v Speaker 1>movie Dancer with wolves and in the.
<v Speaker 2>In the natives give them that that blanket, that.
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo blanket, right, Yeah, it reminded me of that the
<v Speaker 1>way that buffalo blanket fur looked. That's how his fur
<v Speaker 1>looked to me. Okay, So I don't know, that's just
<v Speaker 1>something that's just what it popped in my mind.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm just thinking about like how fast it was
<v Speaker 3>moving and like the size of it compared to like
<v Speaker 3>the deer carcass, like that would I mean, that's like
<v Speaker 3>super strong, right, that's crazy, Like, I mean a human
<v Speaker 3>you know, couldn't do that.
<v Speaker 2>The thing is, if we didn't find those deer bones
<v Speaker 2>down there, I would have said, like I would have
<v Speaker 2>questioned if that really happened, that's how fast he got
<v Speaker 2>that deer over that thing.
<v Speaker 1>So I've never moved quicker in my life. When I
<v Speaker 1>got on that truck and moved around.
<v Speaker 2>There, like I was like I was, I was almost worried.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't put my truck all the way apart. That's
<v Speaker 2>as fast as I can move, and move was gone.
<v Speaker 3>So so did you like keep on going out to
<v Speaker 3>that place?
<v Speaker 2>Oh?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I spent a lot of time out there, a
<v Speaker 1>lot of time. I never had a nerve siding like
<v Speaker 1>those two. Like that day I had, I had kind of.
<v Speaker 2>A weird cloaking experience that I've never I think it
<v Speaker 2>was a cloaking thing, but I don't know. You know,
<v Speaker 2>like once I saw the glowing red eyes, then I
<v Speaker 2>know that I know there's some weird stuff going on.
<v Speaker 2>So it's like kind of opens your mind to think
<v Speaker 2>and like what else is possible? Right?
<v Speaker 3>Are you okay to talk about it?
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. So I got to
<v Speaker 1>this routine where I would go out there and.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I would just sit. I would just sit.
<v Speaker 2>I would just go somewhere and you know, if even
<v Speaker 2>if I just sat in my truck. You know, I
<v Speaker 2>had like a couple pair of binoculars that were like
<v Speaker 2>some that were like not that you know that, we're
<v Speaker 2>just more like for closer range.
<v Speaker 1>I had this deal where I was looking to these binocas.
<v Speaker 2>One day, I was just sitting there in this little
<v Speaker 2>in this little spot where I sat all the time,
<v Speaker 2>and I could just scan this whole hillside and I
<v Speaker 2>was just scanning it and I saw a hand on
<v Speaker 2>the ground.
<v Speaker 1>You're on binoculars, look at your on a knocker. I
<v Speaker 1>see a hand, a huge hand, huge hand. And I
<v Speaker 1>was like, holy shit, what's that.
<v Speaker 2>But when I when I took my binocars away, I
<v Speaker 2>can see nothing else there.
<v Speaker 1>There's no hand, There was nothing there. So I put
<v Speaker 1>him back up. I can see the hand. That's all
<v Speaker 1>I can see.
<v Speaker 2>It looks like the hand is like it looks like
<v Speaker 2>it's sitting behind a plant or a bush, a big
<v Speaker 2>bush in the hand. It's kind of just sticking out
<v Speaker 2>on the ground like propping them up like you sitting
<v Speaker 2>on his butt, just kind of leaning back with his
<v Speaker 2>arms back and his hands propping them up.
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, I'm like okay.
<v Speaker 2>So you know, like now I'm on the hand, I
<v Speaker 2>see the hand, I'm like, okay, I got you know,
<v Speaker 2>there's something here, and I'm trying to like just get
<v Speaker 2>a better picture.
<v Speaker 1>And then I realized when I look through the when I.
<v Speaker 2>Don't look through the binoculars, when I looked at my
<v Speaker 2>race their eyes, it's like it's glistening, like it's morning
<v Speaker 2>dew and.
<v Speaker 1>The sun shine through it, but there's nothing there.
<v Speaker 2>And so I never, I mean, that's you know, I
<v Speaker 2>never I could put my binoclars up, look at it
<v Speaker 2>and it looks fine, take them away and it glistens,
<v Speaker 2>And that was that.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, So it was like you're only really
<v Speaker 3>able to see it through the binoculars.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, if yeah, if even man.
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if that had something to do with like
<v Speaker 3>the light or something. The way that the light traveled
<v Speaker 3>through the binoculars.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it reminded me of like when the sun shines through,
<v Speaker 2>like if you saw like it just rained and then
<v Speaker 2>the sun pops out and the tree has a lot
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of dew on it, and the way
<v Speaker 2>it kind of glistens through the tree.
<v Speaker 1>That's the way it reminded me.
<v Speaker 2>Of but you only saw it when you were when
<v Speaker 2>you were looking through the binoculars.
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy, man, I've never seen anything like that that
<v Speaker 3>that'd probably freak me out pretty good.
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, like, once you get to the point
<v Speaker 2>like where you see the eyes that are glowing red,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you started to wonder what else is possible.
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned, Timmy that you also had like a UFO siding.
<v Speaker 3>Is that also in this area?
<v Speaker 1>This one was closer. This was down. It's pretty it's
<v Speaker 1>in the same area.
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely in the same area, but it's down, I
<v Speaker 2>mean it's not I would say it's maybe five miles away.
<v Speaker 3>That would be the same area for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And there's a lot of stuff that comes of
<v Speaker 2>that goes on around here.
<v Speaker 1>There was an article in the in the paper here
<v Speaker 1>maybe about four years before.
<v Speaker 2>This happened, where there was an event where they saw
<v Speaker 2>something rise out of the river that was about the
<v Speaker 2>size of a Volkswagen Beetle and they had like eleven witnesses.
<v Speaker 1>Saw pretty crazy.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what I saw was was absolutely out of
<v Speaker 2>everything that I'd seen.
<v Speaker 1>This one was the most craziest to me. I saw what.
<v Speaker 2>Was like perfect triangle shape. I would say it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>that It wasn't that big.
<v Speaker 1>I would say it's probably I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I'd say ten feet, you know, like as a triangle is,
<v Speaker 2>so east side's ten feet.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And it was white, and it was shining a light
<v Speaker 2>down straight down on the ground like a like a beam.
<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to call it a beam. It
<v Speaker 1>was just like a light that was shining down on
<v Speaker 1>the ground. That was it.
<v Speaker 2>It was shining down the ground. So I'm driving my
<v Speaker 2>truck home. I was staying at my girlfriend's house at
<v Speaker 2>that time. I worked at a golf course, so I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I had to work at when we
<v Speaker 2>started there. We started like three in the morning, so
<v Speaker 2>I had, you know. I was like, I was on
<v Speaker 2>the road early in the morning.
<v Speaker 1>I'm driving to work.
<v Speaker 2>Then I see this thing and I see it, so
<v Speaker 2>I just decided to start chasing it.
<v Speaker 1>So I see this light and I found I tracked
<v Speaker 1>it down finally, and it's shining when I pull up
<v Speaker 1>to it. I was like, I was on this main road.
<v Speaker 2>I turn off the main road and it's just sitting
<v Speaker 2>there and it's shining the bean down on this driveway
<v Speaker 2>like this gravel driveway and I turned onto the driveway and.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going towards the being like the beams right in
<v Speaker 1>front of you. I'm like, oh my god, what do
<v Speaker 1>I do. It's not moving, nothing's happened.
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is still sitting there. I'm looking at
<v Speaker 2>this thing and I dropped the craft itself.
<v Speaker 1>Like the triangle thing is white.
<v Speaker 2>It looks about I don't know, it wasn't that thick,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like as a triangle.
<v Speaker 1>It looked maybe like it was like six feet thick.
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see what was.
<v Speaker 2>On top of it, obviously, but it's just sitting there, right,
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm like maybe three hundred feet I'm less
<v Speaker 2>than a football field from from the beam that's shining
<v Speaker 2>down or the.
<v Speaker 3>Light that's just like hitting the driveway.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just this is a This is like a
<v Speaker 2>gravel driveway and at the end of it, there's a
<v Speaker 2>big house at the end of it that had like
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of trees around it, so you couldn't really
<v Speaker 2>see the house. But it's just sitting there shining down.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a beam, I don't want to say a beam.
<v Speaker 2>It was like a light like a search light. Like
<v Speaker 2>a spotlight, you know. It was just it was just
<v Speaker 2>illuminating the ground, and I'm like, God, what do I
<v Speaker 2>do here?
<v Speaker 1>So do I keep going? And like like I don't
<v Speaker 1>want to get out of my truck. I just kind
<v Speaker 1>of itch forward a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>And then at one point it started vibrating. It starts shaking,
<v Speaker 2>and so it as the vibrating gets more intense, like
<v Speaker 2>it picks up.
<v Speaker 4>Just then just jumped like That's what I would call
<v Speaker 4>it a jump, like it ramped up, like the vibrations
<v Speaker 4>ramped up, and then it jumped about.
<v Speaker 1>I would say I did a mile a mile and
<v Speaker 1>a half away, which at.
<v Speaker 2>The points where I saw where it stopped, and I
<v Speaker 2>backed up and I was going it actually went back
<v Speaker 2>towards my work. So I was like, sweet, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>go back towards my work. I'm still gonna fall this
<v Speaker 2>thing again. And then it never let me get that.
<v Speaker 2>I never got much closer to it again. Once I
<v Speaker 2>got with it, and I said half a mile of it,
<v Speaker 2>it ramped up again and then it jumped.
<v Speaker 1>Like two or three miles and then it went the
<v Speaker 1>opposite direction of my work and I had to go.
<v Speaker 3>So whenever you say jump like it just like basically
<v Speaker 3>was like instantly like a mile away, but you like
<v Speaker 3>saw it move to that location.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I saw it. You know, it ramped up.
<v Speaker 2>It looked like you know, if you're like pulling your
<v Speaker 2>like a rubber band back and you're.
<v Speaker 1>Gonna shoot something. You know. It was like that's what
<v Speaker 1>it was, like, Like me, can it just shot over there?
<v Speaker 3>What color was the light coming out of it? Just
<v Speaker 3>like a regular white light?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just a white light.
<v Speaker 2>Now the light underneath of it that was shining the
<v Speaker 2>light kind of had more of an orange hit to.
<v Speaker 1>It, but the light that was coming down was clear.
<v Speaker 2>You would have thought it was just like a flashlight
<v Speaker 2>shining down, huh. Like I wouldn't be surprised that if
<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, if it wasn't like one of ours.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was definitely uh you know,
<v Speaker 2>from something from outer space.
<v Speaker 1>But right, But then.
<v Speaker 2>The size of it though, the way how small it was,
<v Speaker 2>like the thinking that if there's somebody inside that thing
<v Speaker 2>they had, they couldn't have been that big of a person.
<v Speaker 1>So that was the other weird part about it. So
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, definitely rocked my world.
<v Speaker 3>Did this happen like after the Bigfoot stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, it did happen after that.
<v Speaker 3>And and that was the only like UFO incident that
<v Speaker 3>you've had, Like you haven't seen anything after that.
<v Speaker 2>No, No, that was the only one. There's been a
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff that happened around here. There's a sudden
<v Speaker 2>that's like it's gotten some stuff in the papers. The
<v Speaker 2>squim rumbles, there's like a rumbling underneath the ground here.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people think that there's like an
<v Speaker 2>underground something going on, But I don't know. I never
<v Speaker 2>seen nothing like that. I just, like I said, that's
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I've ever encountered.
<v Speaker 1>It was ads though.
<v Speaker 3>I just know that sometimes like whenever people have like
<v Speaker 3>UFO encounters like that, sometimes like they start seeing them
<v Speaker 3>on a pretty regular basis, or weird stuff starts happening
<v Speaker 3>like almost like these things, you know, tag the person
<v Speaker 3>or something and you know, keep track of them or
<v Speaker 3>something like that.
<v Speaker 2>I definitely think that, I mean for me personally, else
<v Speaker 2>speak for me. I you know, it caused me to
<v Speaker 2>look up in the sky a lot more, and so
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of weird stuff. I actually had
<v Speaker 2>a really crazy video I'll send it to you if
<v Speaker 2>you want it. Where I saw something in the sky.
<v Speaker 2>It was like, I mean, it looks huge.
<v Speaker 1>You would think that there was He was where there
<v Speaker 1>was a mountain right there, and it was.
<v Speaker 2>Like a like a you know, like a skier resort
<v Speaker 2>on the top of a mountain. But there's there is
<v Speaker 2>no mountain there. I'm sure of it. Uh, it just
<v Speaker 2>it looks huge.
<v Speaker 1>It's like a fortress in the sky.
<v Speaker 3>Weird. Yeah. I've got a friend who used to be
<v Speaker 3>a police officer in Washington and actually had a UFO sighting.
<v Speaker 3>Uh it was a call that he was on, if
<v Speaker 3>I remember correctly, and he saw it go into a
<v Speaker 3>lake or something and then come back out.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Washington is well known for like weird UFO stuff, not
<v Speaker 3>just bigfoot stuff. Obviously it's known for Bigfoot stuff, but
<v Speaker 3>lots of UFO stuff happens in Washington. So that's that's
<v Speaker 3>really interesting man.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it has. I went, well, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it has something to do with like Norad,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and all that, because like the there's a
<v Speaker 2>lot of that the our country's top airspace spots, or
<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of them here in one of that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a there's a big basically like a giant
<v Speaker 3>radar station that sends and receives signals out through the
<v Speaker 3>ocean to like submarines and stuff and listens for submarines.
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I've wondered if that maybe attracts some stuff
<v Speaker 3>in the area.
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a lot of there's a lot of
<v Speaker 1>crazy stuff around here.
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of them, or not a lot
<v Speaker 2>of but I as see there's a bunch of them
<v Speaker 2>become orbs, like the orange orbs.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those are super common around here, really super super common.
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen any of those out in that
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot area.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have. I've seen two of them that were
<v Speaker 1>walking down them. They look like they were walking. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's weird. They were like coming down the hillside.
<v Speaker 2>They were side by side, like they were just kind
<v Speaker 2>of trucking down this robe. All you saw was like
<v Speaker 2>the orange orbs stuff, and there's no body to them,
<v Speaker 2>but you was swear they were walking, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>way there. They were kind of bouncing like their way.
<v Speaker 2>Their heads were kind of super weird.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know some people that have seen like orange
<v Speaker 3>orbs in Washington. Yeah, that's crazy, man. I don't know
<v Speaker 3>what to think about the orb things. I don't know
<v Speaker 3>what those things are, but so many people see them,
<v Speaker 3>and they see them pretty often, especially in like bigfoot areas.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if there's a connection there or not.
<v Speaker 1>I know it's weird, huh.
<v Speaker 2>I think there is, But I kind of dive into
<v Speaker 2>the dot to the weird out side of the bigfoot stuff.
<v Speaker 1>But like, I don't know how how to not to
<v Speaker 1>do that.
<v Speaker 2>If you've seen glowing red eyes, I've seen a enough, well,
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a.
<v Speaker 1>Seen all this weird stuff. Like, like, I don't know
<v Speaker 1>how to not follow that side.
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing wrong with it, man, there's no rules to this,
<v Speaker 3>you know. There's just a bunch of opinions and theories,
<v Speaker 3>but nobody really knows for sure. You're right, You're right,
<v Speaker 3>all right, man. Well, I appreciate you coming on here
<v Speaker 3>and sharing your stories. I've enjoyed hearing them for sure.
<v Speaker 3>You've got some interesting stuff, man, So thank.
<v Speaker 1>You, Thank you, Matt. I appreciate you, buddy. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. If you've had your own encounter with bigfoot or
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