Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff First Round Games W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Boys and girls, the time has finally come. We are in the first round of a college football playoffs. Got a slate of games for you. Before we get into the games, we're gonna talk about the Heidsman. I don't know how much we're gonna talk about the Heisman. Really, I want to know about Michigan football and the state it's in between me and Josh Bay.

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Speaker 2: And Will Compton.

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Speaker 1: We had a rematch Alabama at Oklahoma. The boys will be at that game this weekend. After that, Miami at Texas A and m The boys will be at that game this weekend. Muffin Tulane versus All miss we got to rematch on our hands.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how that went last time.

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Speaker 1: And then we got number twelve James Madison, another Muffin headed up to the Northwest against Oregon. Two rematches this game, let's look over it. Last week a lot of conversations took place. We had Army and Navy salute our military, fifty stars, thir teen bars, these colosed you do not running, Josh.

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Speaker 2: Payton, want to oh incredible myself? Oh to one? Not great?

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Speaker 1: Will Compton one, and oh all together we're right here. This is we're talking about separation Friday Saturday this week.

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Speaker 2: Boys, he goes.

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Speaker 2: Where do we even start?

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Speaker 5: It's a great question. I know you seem conflicted mentally. You're in a lot of different places right now. That ad Rey was not one of them. It was not one of them. But a pro does what a pro does. Pro does you ask where we are? I'd love to know where you are.

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Speaker 3: It's more of like I'm thinking of all the headlines that have been going on with this is like you come in at the shop and we just get on the show. So we haven't had time to sit here and talk about all of our little the internal dialogue that's happening, whether it be Michigan, whether it be you know, the portal movement, whether it be uh Nebraska hoops, Nebraska basketball eleven right now, Yeah, Hey, the Nebraska Michigan sitting at the top of the big tame.

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Speaker 1: It might be a fun market.

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Speaker 2: So that's where my that's where I am currently.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm like, what are some things to ask Josh about that I want to learn more that I want to learn more of.

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Speaker 2: Here's before we dive into these games.

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Speaker 1: Here's the best part about that question you asked yourself is you don't really need to know what you need to ask Josh. I called Josh seven times this weekend at least, and one of those times he answers the phone and we start talking. He goes, Hey, let me just take over this conversation for us. You're gonna ask me this, and I'll answer it like that, and then you're gonna ask you this because you're a smart guy and we think the same way. So I answered the question like this, and truly I'm like, he really is checking all the boxes I need for this conversation so bad.

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Speaker 5: You called me, and let's say you called me at nine thirty one and I had a nine to thirty five meeting. And you ever be in a conversation with someone where you know what they're calling for, you know where it's gonna go. Let's just let's just cut the time in half and quay longer than the four minutes you have yeah, yeah, I'll ask the questions for them, then I'll answer him. So he just sat there and I just walked him through his conversation, and at the end he said, that's pretty much. I have a good day, man.

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Speaker 2: And you know what he made that meeting.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the the fodder I was building on lesson On Twitter? Somebody somebody tweeted, Josh paid is the king of knowing stuff five minutes after it gets you born.

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Speaker 1: It was after that Jurassic Park water gift.

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Speaker 5: That's been circulating this week and really this season. You know, both of you can help me on this because I do in the group text, which is encrypted so no one can get into it. I do occasionally tell you guys what the water gift means. Have I or have I not bat at a thousand on that this year?

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Speaker 2: I think you have.

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Speaker 5: I've let you know so like you can vouch for me. You can be my alibi because I can't let the public know what the water gift means. Like last week, I found out Debor was going to put out a statement. I thought it was gonna be on Friday, so I put out the water gift on Friday. That turns out they didn't release it until Sunday.

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Speaker 2: The team rec wasn't as close as you thought, was there.

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Speaker 5: It was big tea right here.

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Speaker 2: That's why the water was Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, people people have been claiming that I'm engagement baiting. I don't even know how to turn monetization on on Twitter, so I still haven't made any money off of it, but I am. I am engagement baiting and clickbaiting.

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Speaker 1: What is your statement to people saying that you're engagement baiting?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it farming?

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Speaker 5: Farming? Whatever? It's been a good crop yield this year, it's been a really good.

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Speaker 2: Are you engagement for me or not?

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Speaker 5: I prefer engagement farming because if you go clickbaiting, then they start calling you clickbait, pait and then Alex then Alex hit you up, says can we make a T shirt out of that? And I say, that's not what we're trying to do here, Alex, really.

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Speaker 2: We might have to make that, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: I can't conscious profit off of that.

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Speaker 2: Just a glass of water. It's right there.

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Speaker 3: Because anytime my hater comes out, like a hater comes out and tries to go up to Joshua, just thread it underneath by clickbait plate c bab and you know what makes him such a pro to?

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Speaker 1: As I asked him straight up, what is your statement about it? And his statement really wasn't even a statement to claim whether or not he was clickbaiting.

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Speaker 2: He just likes the phrasing of the names better.

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Speaker 1: Which brings us into the Michigan thing, but which brings us into Michigan because Kenny Dillingham and Kaiala de bor Keayn de Bor comes out of a statement Alabama fans, geez, like he put out a statement, he said he had a press conference, and then as a Michigan fan, we will look at it and go He didn't really, he did kind of like laugh and say yes about twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six is January first? Yeah, what is January second?

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Speaker 1: And Dillingham's like, I'm all about people in my camp, like well, I don't know, Like I'm here for my people who are in the trenches of me. All these things meant to warfare, but doesn't really say I'm for sure going to be at ASU. So Michigan fans are sitting there everywhere, sit in the house on fire, being speculation saving this is gonna be one of these guys are gonna be our guys.

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Speaker 3: They're witnessing games being played like we know as players, like anytime, like when agents got hold of us, Like there's a there's a way to go about the game with your messaging, with your words and everything else. And it's like even though uh dubor put out this statement then had the presser and was answering questions in the presser the way he was like, I wasn't completely sold that he's sitting here.

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Speaker 2: He's like, he's not shutting it all the way down, right.

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Speaker 1: Which is smart even if your goal is to stay exactly where you're at, Like, don't just shut it down now you lost our leverage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he talks about the way the team is handling the distractions. He's not, Yeah, where is everybody?

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Speaker 5: All right? So I used to when I would watch coaching searches happen and I had nobody to talk to, no source, know nothing, I would just watch it purely as a fan. I would think that there was this huge game being played behind the curtain, which to a certain extent, there is. But the game doesn't work the way you think it works, all right, So we fast forward to modern day. I've observed it this week. Just as an example, I'll go over on the Michigan on three site and I'll look at the message board because I love to see what fans are saying about it, and I love to try and match it to what I may know to be true and see what's real and what's fake. All Right, So there's been this working narrative this week. You guys have probably dealt with this too. You go on your show, go on whatever platform you have. People know that you know Kenny Dillingham. People know that I know Kenny Dillingham. Anytime you advocate for a guy, you know that's misconstrued as ah Man. He's in on whatever the mechanations of this search are, and he's lobbying for his guy to get a raise, and he's using Michigan as leverage, and like, I know the truth the whole time. And the truth is I've talked to Kenny like five times in the past week. At no point did anything even remotely coming close to that ever come up. Same thing would like debor same thing with Alabama. It's just if I'm talking about Kenny Dillingham publicly, it's cause I think he's a pretty good coach. I think it would be fun to watch him go to Michigan. If I were Michigan, I would pursue him. That's kind of it. We're sitting here, we're recording Wednesday morning, December seventeenth. I have no idea how the Michigan search is going to turn out. I don't know if Kenny would take the job if they offered it to him. I do know he would listen to it, because anyone would listen because it's the Michigan job. But if anyone is sitting there thinking, oh, this is as simple as Michigan offers debor, Debor says no, and then it's just Kenny's job, it may turn out like that. But it's not Kenny sitting there frothing at the mouth waiting for the job offer and just anxious to throw the deuces up to Arizona State. He's got a really, really firm root system in Arizona State for many different reasons that are unique to him in Arizona State. So he may take it if he gets offered. He may not get offered. It's just assumed that we understand the pecking order at Michigan is it's de Boor and then probably Kenny Dillingham for the record, I think that's what it is. I don't know that though. You could probably shed some light on that, because you can see under the Michigan hood a little bit more than the rest of us. We're just looking at the car from across the street.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the problem that Michigan has right now is there are essentially three or four different camps trying to make the decision of what's taking place. So we had a complation on busting with the boys on money about it. If I was essentially if I could just do whatever I wanted, who would I go after? Who might number one be? And my answer would be Kenny Dilliham. Now I've talked to you guys that he's coached with. I've known him for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: Guy.

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Speaker 1: He is from an integrity standpoint, character standpoint, and so he would be a perfect fit to go up give some new blood to Michigan, a new energetic mindset, can fix any offensive problem, and then put a great defensive staff around him. I don't know what that noise is, but oh, that dude's detailing outside.

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Speaker 2: It's okay.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's that's what Christmas present you gotta love. That's part of the show. This moves me back to the train when we're on the bus, when we first started the show.

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Speaker 5: I got a good story about that after you get it.

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Speaker 1: If I was if I was just say, hey, I have to pay a coach. My coach is going to be Kane Dalliam. If I could just choose whoever, it's going to be, even over Kaylen, I think Klein him leaving, Yes, okay, I think his guy one. I don't think Kalen's gonna leave. I don't think that's an option in the perfect world. Like if he goes, then the thought process of how many of those aliens you bring from Tuscaloucid and Arbor. Now, all of a sudden, does Michigan go from like what's gonna happen twenty six two? We're looking at a collegeball playoff team, Like, yeah, that's exciting. But if I'm talking about the next twenty years, who's going to be our guy? Think Kenny Dillion fits that profile for Michigan perfectly. But then I start to think about it more and what Michigan has is a much bigger issue than who the next head coach is going to be at this at the school, they have no president, they have interim president. The AD is kind of sitting there and internally they don't know how long he's going to be there. The border regions have a meeting, they decide like, hey, he's going to be there for now, but there's no like long term. So if you're a head coach and you're walking into a place that foundationally is cracked everywhere, my now thought is stick with Biff Pog for twenty twenty six. Gary Moehler was a head coach at Michigan in nineteen ninety five. He had a situation go down where he got fired from that job and an interim head coach was named in there. His name was Lloyd Carr and he was there for over a decade.

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Speaker 5: YEP.

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Speaker 1: So I've been told by players and by other people that the kids have all said, if Biff Pog's the guy, we will stay. And so if you are are taking from a pr standpoint, we got to get this whole. Like I've had people in the school be like this whole Michigan man thing is dead, Like this isn't just outside noise, like that whole phrase of Michigan man thing it is dead and we want we need to bring it back. What better way to bring it back than if you sit there and go, hey, we clearly have more issues than just who the next head coach is going to be. We need a top down foundation. Who's going to be the leader of this ship. We're gonna name Biff for twenty twenty six. By the way, you play Oklahoma, you play Indiana, you play Ohio State, you play Penn State, and you play Oregon. That's who you play next year. So that's a an absolute gauntlet for a guy to come into losing thirty guys if he were to come in, If if I'm hearing is true, make Biff the internead coach use twenty twenty six to find true leadership from a presidents standpoint, to figure out what we're gonna do with your ad And if it's still the same thought process, Let's say Alabama has the same season they do next year, It's like, probably easier to get Kaitlyn to born now, isn't it. If you're looking at Arizona State and it's like, oh, okay, we want we want Kenny. But Ken he still has this belief that ASU can be this perennial blue chip program next year if he goes eight and four again, the reality sets in and it's like ASU is unfortunately like it's a state school. It's not like it's not a Michigan, it's not an Ohio State, it's not an Oregon House State Nebraska. It's not a school that like the world is talking about. It's really the reason that you're sitting in. And it takes longer for guys to figure that out because a lot of coaches go into ASU, they fix the problems that take place, they have some a level of success, they think, oh, this is the new norm, and then a bunch of shit bags want to come into Tempe Arizona because the weather's awesome, the girls are beautiful, and you can party hard, and so it takes people long and we get there, so maybe you can get the same guys in the next couple of years or next year without the price tag being as high. That's kind of where I've sat since Monday, when I was like, we need to go after Kenny Dillingham. I've kind of looked at it from like more of a thirty thousand foot view, and it's like well, Michigan's got way more problems. Why not fix those problems. It's a better look for the school. And Biff Pog every person I've ran across is like, these kids absolutely love him. And then just back in with resources. You still want to be competitive, Biff, bringing your guys, NFL caliber quarterback, coach, a good oc give these kids what they need from a development standpoint, and play twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: And it fuck you.

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Speaker 1: That's a gauntlet, dude, Like it is a gauntlet. So then if you go seven and five next year, it's very easy to go. Hey, we figured out all the pieces. Now let's go find our guy. What is your thought to that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I think it's viable. I think there's a line on the piece of paper. So you have one candidate, three candidates, five candidates, and then there's a line. Wherever the line is, that's the point past which you're not willing to go because anyone below that line is too big a risk relative to just keep him. Biff, Yeah, I don't know how deep that line is on the piece of paper. My guess is probably four candidates deep. Let's just guess. All right, here's the problem and it's little apples to orange. Is when you look at an interim situation in the past versus now, kids can say they'll stay if the interim is maintained, there's no way to hold them to it.

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Speaker 2: True, there's no way. I agree.

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Speaker 5: And you say, kids, let's say there are fifty kids in the locker room, sixty kids in the locker room. All right, Let's say thirty two of them come to you and say, hey, we're all staying, right. That means you the consensus based on what you've heard is every kid we've heard from says they're going to stay. Well, the ones who aren't gonna stay probably don't have a lot of motivation to articulate that to you. So there's a reason why. It's like people who only tell you look good, man, you look good, you look really good. Well, no one really wants to look you in the face and say you look kind of hideous, man. But there may be a lot of people in the room that think you're ugly. They just are not telling you. So it could be similar to that. And also it could just be that a kid says one thing and does the other. Because once there's there's a difference between a hypothetical and Michigan having a press conference saying Biff Pogey is our interim this year, and then thirteen schools come in your way, offering you as much, if not more than Michigan's going to pay you, and saying we're set up to win championship next year. You guys have to play that schedule with an interim head coach that pretty much the whole world knows is only going to be there one year. That would be the pitch that would work on some kids. And so I just don't know if you can afford to go that route in the portal era, but it still may make sense to go that route if that If that makes sense, That's why I think you really, if you put your crosshairs on Kenny, you just got to offer truly, you can't say no. And there is a school of thought, by the way I've talked to people about this, there's a school of thought that if you're going to go hire a guy who's like top of the mountain, if you were trying to get Marcus Freeman or Kaylyndibore or someone like that to come to ann Arbor, they're probably not coming there unless they have the full understanding of the eighty situation, the president situation, they're going to require full alignment. There is a school of thought that a Kenny Dillingham maybe and Eli Drinkwitz like a someone like that would almost look at that situation as a little more advantageous for them because they walk in and they get to be a little bit more the center of the world instead of the world already existing and them just being dropped into it. Now. I don't know if they think that way, but that's a school of thought that's out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think if you're a decision maker looking at wherever the line is, like you have your top four or five candidates and you're being kind of in prison to the thought of I'm leaning to stay Biff Pogi because the kids want him to stay.

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Speaker 2: Like to me, that.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a that's a recipe for disaster, unless unless the decision makers truly believe that Biff Pogi is a head coach. He's head coach calber like, it's a guy that they want, not at all, Like you take into account a little bit that the kids want them. If you're leaning like we want Biff Pogi to be the guy, then you have the sign offs by the players like that to me is like secondary. That would be like a secondary part of the decision. If I'm looking at who I'm going to bring in as the next head coach.

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Speaker 5: What did you just get done saying about Sharon? Not you like a lot of people got done saying it's about Sharon. They were saying after the USC laws, after the Ohio State loss. They were just looking at the situations saying, if Sharon were if our job was open right now and Sharon was on the open market, would we hire him? And the answer was pretty much known from everyone. I'd ask the same thing about Biff. If if the job were open and you're just you're free to go anywhere you want to and you're just working with an open pool of hiring candidates, would Biff be the guy? If the answer is no, you shouldn't be your interim Unless it's a really drastic situation.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's becoming. It does not feel like for Michigan it's a very drastic situation. There's a tweet that went out like this is this Michigan scandal is the biggest scandal in culturalble since the last Michigan scandal. Like at this point, I just think like it seems like there's a lot going on, and I'm sure there's there's a frame of thought from Michigan. It's like everybody is just associated with the last five years. Let's get him out of the building and just start fresh, which I understand. I'm just trying to think of what is the best long term move form Michian because let's sake, Canny, don't sak the job. I'll be already from we're all we all know Kenny, like we want him to be successful. He is he going to have Is he gonna be able to walk into the mission that we have right now and truly.

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Speaker 2: Be successful right away?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that answer, as opposed to if you give a guy a year, Biff, and it's like, hey, you get to listen to the year. You understand, we understand, you got to take this and we're going to all limit our expectations on everything as you've got lit up a schedule and we're gonna go find the right coach and it could be Kenny and going into twenty seven, well, now you have your present, you have your ad He's been the choice all the boosters are behind it. In the world that we live in now with an Il now he's coming into a much more foundationally put together school as opposed to this kind of mess that's taking place. But it goes back to your thing of do you want to be a center of universe or do you want the universe to exist and be dropped into it? And that's just basically their mindset because whoever is the next guy, I just want them to be successful, And it seems like this is I've gone from. This decision has to be made before Christmas if you're going to hire a coach, like whether it's to Board or dilling Ham or whoever, it does need to be before Christmas. But if it goes on past that, we just got a punt because no one's going to.

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Speaker 2: Transfer none of that.

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Speaker 1: It's like, just keep these kids together for a year or as many as that'll stay. Let's say they're going to stay and keep it moving.

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking in biff shoes, people want me to have the job, but it sounds like I'll only have the job for a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, think about who Biff is though.

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Speaker 1: Coach It like a rental car, right, like thinking like Biff is a self made multi tens of millions of dollars guys, started his own Headshount got into coaching coach high school football because he just loves high school football. Met Harball started doing offensive line drills in a hotel room with him on a dresser, and he's like, you're you should come and work with us. He's been a part of it, goes, takes a job at Charlotte, doesn't work out for him, comes back as like this analyst type of guy, Like, dude's not doing it because he needs money or legacy. He wants to eat coffee, hoggin'dass ice cream and hang out with his wife. Kind of need that at Michigan right now. Kind of need a guy who just gonna eat too much ice cream hanging out his wife right It kind of might be perfect for Michigan right now. So but I don't disagree, Like, is Biff gonna walk away from this and he's gonna have a bunch of calls for the head coach?

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Speaker 2: No, yeah he's not.

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Speaker 1: But if kids are saying they're gonna stay, which you're absolutely right, there are you guys that are gonna leave?

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Speaker 2: Why not just keep this? Dude? In here for a year and a kid might feel some type of way.

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you the way these agents and everything operate behind those doors, they make that pitch to them like that, he can't you can't trust what's coming out of these college.

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Speaker 2: Players mouse, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: I would love to see the domino fall of the Boar, because then we have a whole we have a well, yeah, I guess potentially lame, but then you have a whole nother drama series opening up with the University of Alabama.

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Speaker 1: And poor Alabama. Who's really had Nick Saban forever? Those who gets a guy who was at Washington played in the National Championship and like, all right, we're a SEP for the next two decades, and then all this ship goes down up north and they just get uprooted.

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Speaker 2: Poor Alabama. Alabama. No, there ain't no poor Alabama.

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Speaker 3: They gottled into this college football playoff that we're about to talk about.

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Speaker 5: I will remind you, guys, if you were to check the out cradle, I would remind everyone you know, the New York Giants job is still open, right, Yeah, Mike Tomlin, Marcus Freeman exists too.

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Speaker 2: Dude, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm a big fan of This is a painism that doesn't just it doesn't just casually Yeah, it doesn't just get casually thrown in here. This man doesn't give a ship about the NFL. He just brought up the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: Out of nowhere. He had a Google where that was the New York Giants. Job is opened.

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Speaker 5: You guys know they built met Life Stadius.

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Speaker 1: We're driving from New York for all people watching, and we're gonna get back to that just again another way. We're driving by and would you say. You're like, man, how long has Met Life Stadium here? And we're like, I think it's been here for a while, like over He's like, no, it's been here longer than take You're like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.

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Speaker 1: That just shows how much you just you see their letters NFL.

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Speaker 5: Man, I know my venues, but I just I lost track of time. Met Life is the kid who you saw when he was a baby, and then he shows up at fan reunion and he's thirteen years old. He's got a mustache, and you're like, where did the time go? Yeah, I look at MetLife and he's my thirteen year old cousin with a mustache, and I wonder where did the time go?

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, where you have a pulse on everything is the college football world. Now again, you just went you just went out there. Hey, the New York Giants job is still upen you never cared about the New York Giants job. Now it seems like you know a little something about the New York Giants if you go about your cousin.

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Speaker 5: I just think Marcus Freeman is going to be in play for the Giants job. I think a lot of people in the college football administrative world know that Slash expect that. The agency world know that Slash expect that not a done deal. You know, I'm not going schefter. We can press him and can kind of corner him when we get up there, and we can ask him what he knows about this. But my whole point is if it's even a remote possibility, and it certainly is, then that means the Notre Dame job may be open as well. So the coaching cycle is not close to done.

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Speaker 3: Yet because you don't just bring up Marcus Freeman at something you saw surface level.

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Speaker 5: I think I think the world just ended.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that.

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Speaker 5: I think that was it word day.

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Speaker 2: We're just living on our own.

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Speaker 5: Wow, So this is what it's like. Huh Yeah, so you know a little bit more, not a whole lot more.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm saying you know enough to know, like this will be as serious that Freeman New York.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna get a serious is serious. Absolutely he's gonna get he is getting a serious. Look. Yeah, Now what I don't so I when it comes to NFL job openings from the college perspective, I have racehorse blinders on. I have like one angle I can see it from. Yeah, so I have like one sliver of the pie. The rest of the pie. Got no clue about Got no clue?

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Speaker 3: Are you a portal guy? You know any direction Nebraska might be going on?

00:24:44
Speaker 5: I got Pete Nakos's number. What do you want to know?

00:24:46
Speaker 3: I just want to know who could be on the target list. I'm sure all the top quarterbacks are. Yeah, if you leave Nakos can give me a sowreds BEA's number.

00:24:54
Speaker 5: Gotcha.

00:24:55
Speaker 1: If you heard the name DJ liveway, would you feel excited about that or nervous about that?

00:25:00
Speaker 2: Uh? Excited? Yeah? Yeah? He was on Josh Fate's top ten sec quarterbacks.

00:25:05
Speaker 5: Listen, number one.

00:25:06
Speaker 1: Did you did you see uh Josh paid do his Hey, look, we're gonna look back at our predictions for the year.

00:25:12
Speaker 2: Talk about over. Yeah, now I'd be excited.

00:25:15
Speaker 3: I think any quarterback that has the ability to be like a dual threat possibility and can sling the rock around.

00:25:22
Speaker 1: It would be wild to see Djagway.

00:25:23
Speaker 5: Hey, let me just warn in a Husker Jersey. Let me just warn you about potential. Potential is like hope, it's a really really dangerous thing. Don't fall, don't fall for it.

00:25:32
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something? You said those words? He didn't hear one of them, because this is just a will.

00:25:39
Speaker 2: In a nutshell.

00:25:39
Speaker 5: You got to show you.

00:25:41
Speaker 2: You said.

00:25:43
Speaker 1: Three weeks from now, we're gonna pull literally the start of the new year. We're gonna pull up in nebrassic Cornhusker schedule. Hey you go, boy, it's my craziest eight ten to eleven one.

00:25:54
Speaker 5: This is not a floor we're standing on. That's ten wins. Okay, that's the floor.

00:25:59
Speaker 2: I do nothing. I do nothing but consumer be careful. We went seven to five this year. You know, the potential and hope I was buying into before the year started. Yes, you do.

00:26:10
Speaker 1: You know what the exciting thing is eight and four floor floor floor.

00:26:16
Speaker 2: Four with the schedule next year, Yeah, we play them all. That would have been catastrophic. We play them all as well. Oregon.

00:26:28
Speaker 1: We gotta go to war together next year, arm in arm, red and blue like the handkerchief thing.

00:26:37
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00:27:04
Speaker 2: So hey, we're starting True Classic Game of the week. That's I'm here right now.

00:27:06
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff, College Football Playoff, True Classic Game of the League. Every Saturday's got games, but only one fits just right.

00:27:13
Speaker 2: This is the true Classic game.

00:27:13
Speaker 1: But we go at number nine Alabama versus Number in Oklahoma, killing bor versus brent A Venables Oklahoma Ie their last matchup of twenty three to twenty one. Right now, Alabama's favored in Norman and the total points in the game is forty and a half. William, oh me, you can.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: Be going up. I'm going Oklahoma. I'm going Oklahoma.

00:27:40
Speaker 3: And people are probably out there saying, like, why is will Will's anti Alabama? Now I'm not anti album. My fight is never has never been against Alabama. My fight has been against the system because it's broken and it's nothing but corruption.

00:27:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, crimson corruption, crimson corruption.

00:27:56
Speaker 3: They're just happened to be part of it because they did like the way that they ended the year they got you know, they had their big bad.

00:28:02
Speaker 2: You know father big conference. In this situation, come in deep.

00:28:06
Speaker 3: State college football swaddle and put it passing in their mouth.

00:28:09
Speaker 2: Tell them it's gonna be okay.

00:28:10
Speaker 3: You're not gonna fall a lick in these college We're gonna protect you as much as we can protect you because we have another mission and that's the ACC and that's squeezed out Notre Dame football. So my fight's always been against the system, not as much Alabama.

00:28:21
Speaker 2: They just happened to be. They just happened to be. You know that target that I'm looking at.

00:28:27
Speaker 3: But I got go ahead, you know question fish, I have Oklahoma here because Oklahoma's at home. I'm kind of favoring these teams that are getting to play at home, getting that juice, the energy that they'll have. And in Norman, Oklahoma, I'm envisioning a healthier Materier because we saw the way Materia was going your favorite before the season started. For the Heisman, I just I think a healthy Marterier. And then I also just think something is up with Ty Simpson. You look at his the first part of the first the majority of the season, he was thrown for about seventy percent completion rate, two yards, twenty two touchdowns, two interceptions. Heisman A dude who is in the Heisman conversations, love me some. Ty Simpson keeps the ball high and tight. Don't forget Alabama keep the ball high and tight. I've been at an Alabama guy throughout the year when I picked when I picked you. But over the last three Ty Simpsons throw for fifty four percent, averaging one hundred and sixty yards of the year, four touchdowns, three interceptions, and we.

00:29:22
Speaker 2: Got to watch.

00:29:23
Speaker 3: We watched the SEC championship game and something just looks off, could be injured. And so my mentality is Alabama going out to Norman Oklahoma. I like Norman, I like a healthier materier that they're going to continue to stop Alabama's run game. I know Oklahoma doesn't have much of a run game either, but I'm rolling with the Sooners.

00:29:42
Speaker 1: They don't small line, they don't they don't want to run.

00:29:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:29:46
Speaker 3: And then again, if you're leaning on ty Simpson and I'm of the belief that something's up with ty Simpson, I'm just not.

00:29:52
Speaker 2: I'm not getting in that foxhole with Alabama.

00:29:55
Speaker 5: Okay.

00:29:55
Speaker 3: And if I've had this stance of Alabama shouldn't be in the college wall will playoff, I'm kind of I'm sitting there seeing if they're going to drop this game. I almost need them to lose so then I can continue to beat that drum that they made the wrong decision.

00:30:07
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with the choice you're making of which team, But if Oklahoma does beat Alabama, definitely adds to a spicy storyline.

00:30:16
Speaker 2: Definitely adds to a spicy storyline.

00:30:18
Speaker 5: I've never been a believer that the playoff results have anything to do with the selection process. Ie, last year, a lot of people thought SMU shouldn't get in. I thought they should have gotten in. They got their doors blown off in round one. I still thought they should have been in. It's just they played a much better team on the road and they lost. But you get judged on your body of work in the season, not retroactively what you did in the playoff. So having said that, I slightly lean Oklahoma, but I think I've got a better side on this. I think I got a better angle on this, and I think it's the under at forty and a half. I feel the best about that because I do agree with you about Ty Simpson. So last game, when these two teams plays about a month ago, they got their offensive production. Bama out gamed them four h six to two twelve. They had a twenty three to twelve first down edge, But it was the turnovers, and they weren't freak turnovers, they were forced turnovers. Oklahoma did a great job punching the ball, loose taking the ball, and I wonder if Alabama is taking a top thirty caliber passing attack into Norman. On paper, it says they're number twenty three in the country. But we watched them the last month of the season.

00:31:23
Speaker 3: I was gonna say on paper, it's kind of helped fluff them. Yeah, as well as they performed in the first what eight weeks.

00:31:29
Speaker 5: So you've had two weeks off. They are getting Josh quavisback, Parker brails for it at center a lot healthier. You're hoping you get healthier if they are like that, If that switch clicks again for them, they could throw for three hundred on Oklahoma because they already did, so did Ole, Miss, so did Tennessee. So that's been done a few times this year. My concern is twofold number one. Maybe it's still not there, in which case you're talking about winning with seventeen points on the board and hoping you hold them to thirteen. And then secondly is BAM has been dominated in field position against Oklahoma and also against Georgia. Against Oklahoma, I think OU had four drives start in Bama territory and Bama didn't started drive past their own twenty five yard line. So Oklahoma just tilted the field as hard as I've seen in any big game all year. Georgia did something similar to Bama. If they could correct the field position stuff, and if their offense is just a touch better, you don't need a ton of points to beat Oklahoma. Here, everyone knows that Bama's defense has been playing really, really good ball. It's just that their backs have been put against the wall by the other two thirds of the team. So if they can play a standardized game, I would probably like Bama to win the game. There's no guarantee I get that. What I do think I'll get to a low scoring game, So I'll take the under at forty and a half.

00:32:43
Speaker 1: Do you think that John Matier him getting healthy and having these three weeks arrest his hand when he heard it and we knew what the injury was. This is an injury that the only thing that fixes this injury after surgery is rest in time. Because before he got that injury, he was sitting there at a Heisman front runner.

00:32:57
Speaker 2: He's your a.

00:32:58
Speaker 1: Heisman guy, correct. He was the front runner when he got her, right, he was a front runner when he got hurt. And he was a guy that was dynamic with his legs. He put the ball anywhere all over the field. He could throw it deep to the sidelines on a missile, a little arc on it, like he was doing things. It's like, oh, this guy's a first overall pick, top ten type of guy. Now we've gotten these twenty one days for him to sit rest and do some rehab on the thumb. When he comes back, you're kind of rooting for him. He's like, Oh, what a guy's got. Like he's over in Chipotle talking shit, being like I'm playing this week, I'm doing all these things. And so we've kind of seen them. They lose to Texas and then we kind of all just forget about Oklahoma and they just you know, continue to win and do their thing and then make it in the playoffs. The thing that's the biggest thing for me is one they're at home. They're a great team at home Alabama watching their skid the back half of the season, like just kind of not put it together, their top twenty three offense. But then we watched them against the SEC Championship, we watched them against South Carolina, like we see all these things kind of take place, and it's like, all right, they're getting healthier, but they're not as healthy they can be. The questions with Ty Simpson, like we love them high and Ti he'sdapping the boys off as the game's about to start. But I just think a healthy jo Mateer Bretta Bennable's defense is the thing is the thing that gets this done. So I'm half with you the first half about caddling, swaddling and loving on a baby and having them be Alabama.

00:34:17
Speaker 5: I'm out on that, yea.

00:34:19
Speaker 1: And I support you in good luck with the Crimson the Crimson cult not my again.

00:34:24
Speaker 3: The fight is and against Bama. The fight is against the system. Okay, fair enough. So you believe the systems, right, you believe the system.

00:34:31
Speaker 5: You're a system guy.

00:34:32
Speaker 2: System.

00:34:33
Speaker 1: I think I think the way we talked about the system, I think Alabama is in that the way I believe the.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: System should still should be made. We agree, So I don't think Alabama. He says process is broken, process.

00:34:43
Speaker 1: Pruss is broken. Process is broken. Alabama fixed the process. And I'm assuming our brains because you know, we think very much alike. Based on the conversation I have whe Josh pay took it over and asked all the right questions. I think Alabama is still in there, but basically finish the season. The job a tier getting healthy. I like John Mattier.

00:35:02
Speaker 5: I like Oklahoma if Alabama wins this game. Remember when we were doing the alt cast, I said like thirty seven different times, cause there were thirty seven different instances where it was warranted how bad Bama was missing their tailbacks, not because they were going to run the ball for four at four point eight yards per carrier, because they couldn't they couldn't incorporate tailbacks in the passing game. All right, So jam Miller's back in this game, So that's a really really important thing to watch, along with Quavis being back and along with their center Parker Brerelsford not dragging a peg leg around trying to start. So if Bama does win, that's why it probably happened. But I just feel so good that at least one team is going to have their offense really throttled, maybe both of them down to the point where I think the under is the safer play for me.

00:35:45
Speaker 3: And then also Oklahoma's just gotten due like keep to themselves these last couple of weeks. Yeah, it's been about just jo Mateer getting healthy because we understand the hand and the rehab A lot of is just some rests and everything else. But they've just been able to work in the lab being the way nobody's talking about, nobody's bothering them. Alabama, you need all of these things that kind of you're hoping this gets back on track because of what we saw in the first eight weeks.

00:36:07
Speaker 2: Is something going on with ty Simpson, not to.

00:36:09
Speaker 3: Mention too, the bar just being in all of these in all this conversation with coaching, like, there are distractions going around, and I have no doubt that the Alabama team's handled it well, but we all know that that can play a factor. And then you got to pack up and go on the road to Norman, which again I think is a will be a big X factor for Oklahoma on Friday.

00:36:27
Speaker 1: Josh, is there a possibility that Alabama goes on a scores Earth type of thing like oh I State did last year?

00:36:34
Speaker 5: I don't. There's an outside chance if they were to get the guys healthy at the right time, then they could look like the passing attack that they looked like earlier in the year. But remember even when they were humming like there it's such a fine needle to thread, they were still winning close games. The Vandy game, I know it was a double digit game, the Tennessee game was a double digit game. Those like turned on one play. There was a pick six downder the goal line in the Tennessee game right before the half. So they still have to like thread the needle. But the answer to your questions, yes, I'd have to see it to believe it. Is it the answer to the question.

00:37:07
Speaker 3: You believe Bama could go on a run and win the National here's my question. He was the original pick.

00:37:12
Speaker 2: I know, but I also want to pretend.

00:37:13
Speaker 3: I also want to pretend, like part of me thinks, like I don't think does he think that they can really win the national title? Or does he know his dad Savannah watches the show they have They they like themselves some Bama. He knows the truth, but he's like, I gotta go on, you know, I gotta I gotta let him know if there is an outside an outside.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: Wow, what's up?

00:37:35
Speaker 5: Wow?

00:37:36
Speaker 3: That's heavy with what in regards to what Josh got it?

00:37:41
Speaker 5: Let him answer the question. You're asking a lot of deep questions about Alabama. Here to be an anti system guy. There was a question from the audience that is kind of leading me to believe that maybe it is a little more personal between you and Alabama than you've let on.

00:37:53
Speaker 3: There, there there's some There is absolutely some personal ties in it because everybody sits up here and they're also pro sec about everything else.

00:38:00
Speaker 5: Like everybody.

00:38:01
Speaker 2: I'm the guy.

00:38:02
Speaker 3: It's the system protected Alabama to be in this college football playoff the way that they ended the year. They are not a team in my opinion, that should have been in the college football Playoff. So knowing that, knowing that that's my feeling on perspective of watching the game, understanding the system and everything else, do I think that they can go on a run and win the national title. I don't think that they're a football team that can win the national title this year.

00:38:25
Speaker 5: Josh Clump just handed me a trivia question. Name the first team left out of last year's college football playoff Taylor Alabama. That would be correct.

00:38:39
Speaker 1: This man talked about I'm against the system. I'm not against the Crimson Guide. And all it took was one question to pull the thread. You'd be like, I'll be honest as you see bias.

00:38:53
Speaker 5: Everybody sits up here.

00:38:57
Speaker 2: To be in the season.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: Going SEC is the most death and my mouth, my jaw hits the ground.

00:39:01
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro what happened.

00:39:02
Speaker 1: We've been a pro like, we've been very clear, we've been biased Big ten guys this whole time.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: You're like, bro, what's the truth?

00:39:09
Speaker 1: And now it all comes back. You just mad the elephants back in.

00:39:15
Speaker 2: H This is blowing my mind.

00:39:19
Speaker 1: Buddy, your words produced mine.

00:39:22
Speaker 2: Yeah. The system, this system.

00:39:30
Speaker 3: I can't be more clear here here you're talking to me, brother, I know I got you. This system protected Alabama to staying in the college football.

00:39:39
Speaker 5: Player except for last year when the system boxed Alabama out.

00:39:44
Speaker 1: Hey, come on, I'll tell you this right now. The system did not protect Alabama. Alabama earned the right to play the SEC Championships when you have multiple other teams.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: No, no, I gave you.

00:39:56
Speaker 1: I gave you, I gave you your chance. I let you speak. I'll let you speak. I can do the back and forth, and if you want for a little bit, I.

00:40:02
Speaker 2: Can't be interrupted that a conversation.

00:40:04
Speaker 1: Talk to me about how you agree with the system of college football. I don't agree with how the totality of the system works. But if we're talking strictly about Alabama, Alabama was given the right to play in an extra game and for you to hurt them so bad that they can't play in the playoffs now would take away from all championship games. So if you're saying, hey, we should rid of championship games, then we can have a whole new conversation. But as it sits right now, you can't let Alabama be out of the playoffs after Ole Miss and Oklahoma and A and M are also in and they weren't good enough to play in the SEC Championship.

00:40:38
Speaker 3: This is a much larger conversation because it involves several different teams to where if you can't sit there and see that deep state college football there was zero, zero punishment.

00:40:52
Speaker 2: For that ass whooping in the SEC Championship, and then you saw punishment going on with other conferences.

00:40:57
Speaker 3: Big twelve B. Why you at large rankings. I'm not talking about the collegewabill playoff. I'm talking about at large rankings. If you can't see the puppeteering that was happening to manipulate the system squeeze out another football team that I won't name because everybody's like, oh, you want Notre Dame in the collegewall playoffs.

00:41:13
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.

00:41:14
Speaker 3: They you can sit there and look at it and be like they got squeezed out and if you look at everything that happened, all the insurance policies that were put in place to make sure that happens because Virginia couldn't win the ACC title game. I don't know how else to explain it. I know it's getting directed to me. It's just Alabama sec bias everything else. But this is a much larger conversation because the system failed this year.

00:41:39
Speaker 2: The system was broken this year. Can't tell you something.

00:41:42
Speaker 1: You just talked about the system and how much it's failed, but not one time brought up why Alabama should be out BYU was never in it because on BYU was never in it. Notre Dame. I understand your argument. Unfortunately your argument is incorrect Notre Dame. Notre Dame lost to Miami, and they had a head to head against another team and Miami beat them by more later in the season.

00:42:07
Speaker 2: Okay, so talking.

00:42:08
Speaker 3: About time, what was that Miami that last part Miami beat them by That played no factor in Miami getting in the playoff. Miami is in the playoff not because of their head to head win. Miami's in the playoff because Virginia lost the ACC title.

00:42:22
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that's what ended up happening. However, if I sat there, I said, look at it, Taylor, who should be in Miami in her dame. It's clear Miami should be an over dinner dame. Yeah, yeah, he's best, best, it's most deserving. Alabama did did nothing, all right. They had the right to go play in a game. Now, they had the right to go play se championship. They earned it over everybody else in that conference, and they get their ass swept, no doubt. There's the day if you take them out of the playoffs, it's dead, and that's crazy.

00:42:51
Speaker 2: Alabama did nothing wrong here. B Yu was never in it.

00:42:55
Speaker 1: They were a placeholder for these G five teams, and you and I are very aligned on how G five should not be in it. So BYU, you can just crumple that throughout the window. Miami notre dame. I understand your argument, but the reality is you're talking about best, I'm talking about most deserving.

00:43:11
Speaker 2: Both of our arguments play. If we live in those worlds and Alabama did nothing to.

00:43:15
Speaker 3: You, I see where I was wrong, and I see where my anger has been zeroed in on Alabama being in and me going as far as to say they should be in the college football second, and that is where I spoke out of both sides of my mouth there, because when I'm making the argument about the system at large, it came down to, hey, there's also a world where I can see Alabama as long as they fall back a slot. But there was zero There was zero repercussion from what happened. Oh what we saw in championship, we can't hear that. So I agree that my anger got very much directed toward Alabama. My anger got very much directed toward Alabama. But the system at large broke.

00:43:50
Speaker 5: I think we're okay. I think we're okay. No, he was doing the deep state color.

00:43:53
Speaker 1: We can't shake hands. No you apologized. I'm like, oh great, that's growth. Let me shake his hands. We can come back together. And you're still mad. No, okay, all good? Yeah, all good.

00:44:08
Speaker 5: He was doing the thing he was doing.

00:44:10
Speaker 1: So you're on Oklahoma for a multitude of reasons because I think they're gonna win and you're on the under.

00:44:19
Speaker 5: I have no idea what just happened. No, it was a it was a two of five area. Coulde number they they heard some stuff was happening on the.

00:44:25
Speaker 2: Show, and you're directed at the Crimson Tide chicken.

00:44:31
Speaker 1: So it's it's don't don't don't like that, Like that's the problem, Like because you said no, you said I you by you saying I understand Will's brain just heard it's okay for me to do what I just did, and we can't have it when someone's when someone's wrong, it's okay for them to sit in it.

00:44:49
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I you did this. Yeah yeah, yeah, back, you did this. I got too zoomed in.

00:44:54
Speaker 3: I got too zoomed in because my zoom out it wasn't when I'm talking about it all at large again, really, the at large ranking protection that happened in the acc stuff is where my anger is about.

00:45:08
Speaker 1: This is I take a wild guess at what game you're taking who you're taking in Miami Texas A and m.

00:45:13
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Notre Dame being not it ain't being both of them teams right now. Yeah, I know.

00:45:22
Speaker 1: It's It was kind of sad to watch Marcus Freeman tap him on the leg at the Heisman ceremony and be like, we love verb the State of the Year, and.

00:45:27
Speaker 2: He just smiled and nod.

00:45:31
Speaker 5: He gowned the best.

00:45:33
Speaker 2: Yeah wash, she the best.

00:45:35
Speaker 1: But Freeman sounds like he's gone to going to that brand new stadium at Life in New York, brand spanking new next game.

00:45:43
Speaker 2: Where's going man?

00:45:45
Speaker 3: Nicole Bultrom Superior bragging rights for Superior Life here?

00:45:51
Speaker 2: Now?

00:45:51
Speaker 1: What is the record right now? Eight and seven? I'm eight and seven. I believe I'm mating seven. I think the tide. Do you think we're taught? Let's just go.

00:46:04
Speaker 2: Rock shoot Superiors with.

00:46:15
Speaker 1: Superior number ten Miami at Texas A and M A and M is favorite minus three and a half total ports of the game is forty nine and a half points.

00:46:26
Speaker 5: Imagine being in both of these games, which we will be, Yes, we will.

00:46:30
Speaker 2: Can't you guys have fun? Man? I keep forgetting that you're not. Yeah Will?

00:46:36
Speaker 3: I love my family, I know I have a couple of masters.

00:46:41
Speaker 1: Yeah Will.

00:46:42
Speaker 2: This is a great opportunity for you to be like, I'm not going with these.

00:46:44
Speaker 5: Games in South Indiana. To be in this game is in South.

00:46:47
Speaker 2: Bend in Miami, the A and M.

00:46:48
Speaker 3: Neither of these teams deserve to be in Notre Dame should be playing in this football game.

00:46:51
Speaker 2: An m lost one one game.

00:46:54
Speaker 5: To Texas at the end of the year for aud alert forra aud alert, clump. I'm pushed my heart out. I'm gonna text you.

00:47:05
Speaker 1: Do you have you do have a heart out?

00:47:06
Speaker 2: Do you need to go?

00:47:07
Speaker 5: The heart out is not hard enough to where I can't change it, gotcha, So let's just continue. I just once we talked Deep State College, I had to move my heart out back.

00:47:16
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't have a big feel.

00:47:21
Speaker 3: I leaned the again in this first round, especially between the games with Oklahoma Alabama.

00:47:27
Speaker 2: I lean in favor of the team that's playing at home. Uh So I'm rolling.

00:47:32
Speaker 3: Texas A and M in this situation, but I'll be I mean, Miami has weapons, they have the defensive line, they can get after the quarterback. Y so does A and M so.

00:47:44
Speaker 1: Does an M to run the ball, Miami does a great job against the run. Which quarterback is going to show up? Which version of which quarterback is gonna show up? Marcehall Reid?

00:47:51
Speaker 2: Who do you have?

00:47:53
Speaker 1: Honestly, I go back and forth. I literally did not make a decisions till I sat in this chair, And as I'm even speaking right now, I don't really have vision A piece of me wants to go I mean, now, the bias in me of not having a whole lot of respect for the ACC right now is really infiltrating my brain because I'm sitting here with the SEC. It's like, yeah, people want to hand out text C and M because their schedule is really shitty. But it's still the SEC, and it's a lot faster paced. It's Kyle Field, It's I mean, it's the cult.

00:48:19
Speaker 2: Wait what.

00:48:21
Speaker 5: He doesn't think that you said that. He thinks that that was planted in you by the deep state. It's still the.

00:48:28
Speaker 2: Because he just looks over a gear like because it's s It.

00:48:31
Speaker 1: Is the SEC, and it's like there's a piece in me living in Nashville for a long enough time. It's like, yeah, that ship is pretty fast. They do operate a little differently. Those defensive ends can really get after that defense flies around. Marshall Reed can use his leg what.

00:48:45
Speaker 5: We we we play some good ball down I'm just waiting for we to come out of your mouth. That's when it's done.

00:48:49
Speaker 2: It is not we.

00:48:50
Speaker 5: It's not we. It is not Still.

00:48:52
Speaker 1: They do a great job playing football down here, south down south, right, They do a great job but I mean, Miami's done a really good job against mobile quarterbacks all year long.

00:49:03
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, tell me about it.

00:49:05
Speaker 1: I know I've literally watched that. I got that information from your prediction show on YouTube. So that's your information. I'm just laying it out here right now.

00:49:12
Speaker 2: You mean tell me that. You fucking said it.

00:49:17
Speaker 3: Just there as you, right in the face, like he's telling you something.

00:49:19
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, you have the idea. You don't ever doubt how much I love you because you have no idea. How many times this year I've sat here and watched you have the audacity to look me in my eyes and cite direct statistics.

00:49:31
Speaker 1: Off from my show how almletna sits you with forty forty eight total yard It's some dual threat quarterbacks.

00:49:37
Speaker 5: And I don't even break a smile. I just nod. That's great information. Yeah, that's awesome, that's beautiful.

00:49:43
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, you have to say it once. Let me get to say it.

00:49:45
Speaker 5: Who were they? They were Byron Brown in us F It was the Kid at Virginia Tech. It was Kid Florida, a DJ Lagway. They played him. They play Karen Jroones with at Virginia Tech. They played two more Kevin Jennings at SMU, so they play five mobile quarterbacks. This year, the mobile qbs had seventy four combined rushing yards against them. So I don't necessarily know. This is just kind of segue to my pick. I just don't know if Marcel Read's getting it done with his legs, which means if they shut down A and M's ground game, it's Marcel Reid throwing the ball three multi itt games in his final five, so he kind of tailed off. He kind of tailed off a little bit. That's what makes you nervous. But on the flip side, okay, well, Miami didn't really run the ball to the degree I thought they would this year. To begin with, they're in the seventies and rushing numbers, and A and M will shut you down running the ball too. But the difference is A and M has the number one sack rate in the country with home field at their back on third down, and so I ultimately think it's a Carson Bet game, it's a Marcel Reid game, and whoever can get the job done on third down without turning the ball over three times is the winner. And if that's your prediction, that's where I'm going you're not in your head. I assume you kind of sort of agree with that. It's a really high variance crapshoot of a game. So I just took the home field team that I think may be able to run the ball more consistently. But I have no strong field, So I'm taking A and M minus the points. I have no strong feel in this game. Yeah, I'll take Miami. I'll take Miami.

00:51:16
Speaker 2: Miami plus three and a half. Acc bias.

00:51:21
Speaker 1: Show me something. This is the last time I'm gonna believe in them.

00:51:23
Speaker 5: This is it.

00:51:24
Speaker 2: This is it. This is the last time I'm gonna believe in Miami. This is it.

00:51:28
Speaker 5: You don't want a playoff game on the road? Is three and a half point?

00:51:30
Speaker 2: Dog?

00:51:30
Speaker 5: You're dead to me?

00:51:31
Speaker 2: Nope, yep, Yes, that's tough.

00:51:35
Speaker 5: That's where I improved every year down there.

00:51:37
Speaker 2: Don't let Miami get blown out.

00:51:39
Speaker 5: Don't let him lose.

00:51:40
Speaker 2: Don't let Miami get blown out.

00:51:41
Speaker 1: That would be a lot of what you would think is a lot of armor or amo. Yeah, but it still wouldn't matter. They could lose the game by twenty one points, dude, they still deserve it being over over.

00:51:54
Speaker 2: Notre dame, that's your opinion. What's your is your is?

00:52:00
Speaker 5: I told you my opinion is. We're about to talk about some games that are even more extreme, like Jmu Kulane. My opinion wouldn't even change on who should or shouldn't have made the playoff if one of those teams wins. Outright, I don't base my opinion whatsoever on what the outcomes of the games are. I look at your body of work and I decide should you or should you not be in the playoff. But like so, we disagree. In Alabama, I think they should have been in. You don't think they should have been in. But either way, you think, to me, you should etch your opinion in stone before the playoff game start, cause if it's not that's like if you call a play on fourth and goal on the five yard line, if you're a coordinator, Once you call the play and it's in and the play starts, there's nothing you can change. So it's ludicrous for a fan to get to watch the play to see if it works out before they decide if it was a good call or not. And I think selecting the playoff field is the same thing. You think what you want about the committee. Put yourself on the committee. Make yourself the committee. How are you choosing the play off field? You're not choosing it based on how you think the playoffs should go, or that's not how you should be choosing. You're choosing it on comparable body of work or comparative body of work, and you're trying to get the proper twelve teams in. I don't say the best twelve because that's not how we currently decide the playoff, or else two G five teams wouldn't be in. So I think Miami should be in no matter what they do. They could win or lose by thirty. Same thing with Bama. But I don't think, or let me rephrase, I don't like that the structure allows two G five teams to get in. But even if they lose by fifty or pull an upset out right, I would still feel the same way. So I don't care about the results as it relates to who should or shouldn't have made it.

00:53:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more of the chaos that gets to ensue on Twitter, which is what I'm excited about.

00:53:41
Speaker 5: If you want to see chaos, let that two lane Ole miss game be close in the fourth quarter. That's when the chaos would ensue. You. You would see more bad faith arguments than you've ever seen in your life. You would see more people pulling old takes up of you. You me talking about the G five, and they would say, what now, that's why I'm already fuck you.

00:53:59
Speaker 1: That's what's Yes, you just gotta have any drafts, You just gotta have it ready to go.

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00:54:27
Speaker 3: S says sure, sure, spread on that game is a ole Miss favored by seventeen and a half, not a big shot over under fifty six and a half.

00:54:38
Speaker 5: This game happened already blowout earlier in the year, what was it, forty five to ten? It already happened in Oxford that was a Lane kiff and led ole Miss tea all right, So when I break these games, it doesn't make much sense for us to just like make the case for who's going to win the game. Ole Miss is a huge favorite. The way I like to look at these games, is there a shot the upset could happen. I think there's a small shot here. I don't think JMU has any shot. I think Tu Lane's got a small shot. They got better athletes than JMU does, so at least you know you got the regionality aspect, you got coaching churn at ole Miss. When this game happened earlier in the year, ole Miss got up quick twenty three to three at the half and two Lane had to throw their game script in the garbage and they just had to try and throw to keep up. So if they could have something better than four of eighteen on third and fourth downs, if they're able to force a turnover, Trinidad Chamdlis has not had a multi in game this year. If that were to happen, I don't know, like turnover special team stuff. If you were to be able to pop them early and make it a four quarter game, yeah, I guess anything could happen outside of that, though, No, I think Ole Miss is favorite favorite big for a reason. I'm taking them to win and cover. Actually because this is if you think about the point spread here. Sometimes in college football in the season, when you have these big points spreads, it means you don't have the favorites full attention. Sometimes it's a letdown spot, sometimes it's a look ahead spot. This is one of the only spots in college football where you have these big spreads, but you also know the favorite has one hundred percent of their attention on the opposition, so you get the full weight of that team, whatever it is, whether it's Oregon or whether it's Old Miss, and that means they don't stop, they don't let up. What they try and do is get out of the gate extremely fast and be up thirty five to ten so that they can coast in the second half. That's what their goal would be. I'm going to take them to win a cover because I think all the motivations there, and you got a coaching staff trying to prove themselves, like people are asking, oh, what are they going to be without Lane Kiffin. They didn't name an interim at Old Miss. This is Pete Golding's team like he's he is getting his staff in place. They're trying to prove that they're of the caliber that you need to be to be an sec staff.

00:56:44
Speaker 2: And it seems like the roster's behind it too. That's what I'm excited about.

00:56:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I like him to win and cover.

00:56:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm taking Old Miss like I've been. I've been having this stance against the G five. This is like a it's a predator. It's a predator, just throw out the bait type of situation. I'm looking at these the power forward games we have with Oregon and James Madison and also Ole Miss and Tulane like I'm taking Old Miss.

00:57:06
Speaker 2: They're at home. They've already beat him before Golding, right, Yeah, Golding.

00:57:12
Speaker 3: Him seeing him having this team and going out to prove something with Lane gone and all the little things that you see from the players, uh sitting on the outside of it. After all this Lane kif itself unfolded and seeing the excitement they have to rally around the staff.

00:57:24
Speaker 2: I'm fired up to see Ole Miss.

00:57:25
Speaker 3: I think they could make some noise depending on how how big they win in this game. But I think you could sit there and look at Old Miss facing Georgia in a rematch, and I'm hoping to come out of watching this game against Ulane is like excitement on me. Yeah, what is gonna happen when they play Georgia again? Because right now it's like, Okay, whoever wins this game Ole Miss is gonna be Tulane. You're just assuming that George is gonna win that game out right, Uh, but if they come out with some fireworks, I would be I'll be I'll be fired up for for that game against Georgia.

00:57:51
Speaker 1: It was one of the most That game was one of the most fun games to watch all season. Was that Old Miss Georgia.

00:57:55
Speaker 5: Ole Miss up two possessions in Athens and still lost, still lost in the fourth quarter.

00:58:00
Speaker 1: I don't have a say about this game. Ole Miss win and cover ye, Oregon win and cover two for here two for this is two for one.

00:58:10
Speaker 2: Spech Wow you.

00:58:11
Speaker 1: Lanner James Madison wins this game. Somehow, I will donate money to their nil fund.

00:58:17
Speaker 5: How much I don't know, name a number, A million dollars?

00:58:21
Speaker 3: No, sure, you'll donate one hundred thousand dollars fifty cut and half call fifty.

00:58:26
Speaker 2: I'm just saying whatever it is and be like, hey.

00:58:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll donate fifty thousand dollars to either to laner James Madison if they can be either, they team straight up, and I will go and I'll dress up in the entire mascot outfit and sit in their diag and I will apologize to every student that walks by me for the greater part of a day. Will you shave your head to sure, I'll shave my head.

00:58:45
Speaker 2: What else?

00:58:46
Speaker 5: I don't know what you're promising.

00:58:47
Speaker 1: You get a nose piercing like.

00:58:49
Speaker 2: What do you? What do we? What are the things? Oh? I don't know.

00:58:53
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just miss some of the thoughts.

00:58:59
Speaker 1: I've still this G five thing for a minute. Now it's like, okay, now is judgment Day. I feel more confident than ever that these seems will not win. So it's like, yeah, you can put anything you want up there. It's it's that's what's gonna happen.

00:59:10
Speaker 5: So I got both those, So you're gonna addresses these mascots. One of them is just a wave yeah. The other one's a duke. Yeah, I don't know what what The other one is I guess you could throw on the little Green Wave outfit, but fifty K and then if they both win, you're stroking one hundred thousand dollars combined.

00:59:28
Speaker 2: Check. Oh yeah, yeah, that's good point. Yeah, somewhere all's doing that.

00:59:34
Speaker 3: By the way, and he donating one hundred thousand and two Lane, which is.

00:59:39
Speaker 1: You don't like that, bro, I just he said, My wife and I we already talked about it.

00:59:45
Speaker 3: He he's like leaving anywhere.

00:59:48
Speaker 5: The Lane don school in his way out, you know, Lane is so he operates on his own.

00:59:54
Speaker 3: No coach sitting there like, yeah, I kind of feel bad that I'm leaving him.

00:59:57
Speaker 2: That's the type of team that's going to ole miss this weekend.

01:00:00
Speaker 1: Yeah broken, They're they're going to be so jacked up for the first three minutes of that game and then it's going to be over. And I'll said there and me like, yeah, I told you guys didn't deserve to be here.

01:00:10
Speaker 2: You did deserve it.

01:00:11
Speaker 5: But your problem is with the system, not with the teams.

01:00:14
Speaker 1: My problem is no, yes, yes, my problem is with the system. Like if a G five team, like we talked about twelve to zero blowing teams out, Yeah, throw their asses in there. That'd be awesome to see. These guys don't deserve to be in sad onward.

01:00:32
Speaker 5: You know, you know when in Jurassic Park the water starts to ripple yep, and that's when the t Rex is approaching. But you know, if you fast forward, we spoke about this earlier this week. When you fast forward a little bit, there's another scene in Jurassic Park where all of a sudden you look up through the Ford Explorer sun roof and it's raining and it's dark, but all of a sudden, that t Rex's head first rises up above the canopy of trees and it throws that little go in the back of its mouth and he just crunches down. That brings us to the JMU Oregon preview. I think this is gonna be bad. I think it's gonna be really bad. I hope so like paint the walls with their blood splattering Sarah McLaughlin's special Scorched Earth, Dan Lanning is using you as a tune up for Texas Tech Bad. So I think I'm gonna take Oregon to win and.

01:01:26
Speaker 3: Cover I'm with you just another movie analogies is like when in Gladiator or they just throw unarmed prisoners out in the coliseum where the outcome is already decided before the gates even open. This is just for entertainment more than it is about competition.

01:01:47
Speaker 5: And you're standing there on the field in Autsin and that crowd is chanting kill, kill, kill.

01:01:54
Speaker 3: Dan Lanning says there and goes and they kill, and they kill, and then they got and then we all just sweet. Are we happy with all that? Are we happy with what we just saw? Do we feel good?

01:02:08
Speaker 2: Yeah? And this close to Christmas too? Yeah, it's unfair.

01:02:12
Speaker 5: Oh and then your coach leaves.

01:02:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was pretty brough. You guys played terrible. I'm out of here, none.

01:02:18
Speaker 2: Of you coming with me.

01:02:19
Speaker 5: Good luck to you guys.

01:02:20
Speaker 3: So this will be an ass beating that we just we feel uncomfortable watching.

01:02:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, turn off at half times.

01:02:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes you move around in your seat a little bit.

01:02:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I went a little too far with this one, is what you start to think.

01:02:34
Speaker 2: So we feel good. So you're also on organ that win and cover? Oh?

01:02:38
Speaker 5: Absolutely all right, which gets us one step closer to Oregon Indiana rematch. We would just be one round away from Oregon Indiana rematch, at which point there's no way Landing can afford to watch that show. There's no way that he can afford to watch you reveal the text that I know you'll get that week.

01:02:58
Speaker 2: Who's to say he hasn't got it already. He's not me saying I haven't been talking to Big Netty this whole time.

01:03:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, you may not be the only one's been talking to him, knowing him like I think I do, dirty guy dirty. My dad spots dirty players, I spot dirty coaches.

01:03:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're already calling you're You're already saying it doesn't matter who get a Who's saying it doesn't matter who gets to the next round? Texas Tech's going to be out. One of the SEC teams was saying, Oklahoma and Alabama.

01:03:29
Speaker 5: Do you think that Oklahoma or Alabama would have a better shot against Indiana? Which is just a mind boggling sentence, But which one do you think would have a better shot? I got a theory on that.

01:03:40
Speaker 2: I would say Oklahoma Oklahoma.

01:03:42
Speaker 5: I think Alabama would have a better shot because Oklahoma is so offensively limited. If Alabama is playing Indiana, it's because Alabama's offense was good enough to go in to Norman and win, which means obviously the offense sort of bottomed out and bounced back a little bit. And if you then you get them on a neutral field, you give them nine more days to heal up. Maybe you get an lt Overton back in conjunction with these offensive players. I just think Alabama's offense at its best is way more dynamic and can test your corners. Also a little bit that's being glossed over. We're not breaking down Indiana, but they lost one of their best defensive players for the year in the big tension, and you know that that's not really being talked about a lot.

01:04:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, five of those guys that was just a freak acts. Yeah, just celebrating with the then got the shirt on.

01:04:30
Speaker 2: And they like, get the cart. What happened?

01:04:32
Speaker 1: He just jumped in the air and high five to the kid and then buckled.

01:04:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's brutal man.

01:04:38
Speaker 3: I'm more thinking of like a grittier game, Like let's say John myttears healthier, and that does make a difference because we all again got to see him before he had that injury. Then I just look at more of like the two other phases of the game, being defensive special teams, and I think if you're going to compete against obviously Indiana's gonna not have their best defensive player. But the way you kind of watch that Ohio State of Indiana game unfold, if I'm picturing that for the game again, it's whoever be Alabama or Oklahoma. I feel like Oklahoma would just be better suited because they have defense to match their defense, they have special teams where you can play the field position game. And then again you're just you're more hopeful that a healthier job materier like just somebody's gonna make a playoffensively if it's not, you know, a defensive turnover and score.

01:05:20
Speaker 5: Playoffs are here.

01:05:21
Speaker 2: Playoffs are here. Boys. Hey, thanks for tuning in.

01:05:24
Speaker 3: Great show, great show, big ug Shinney kisses. Don't forget to leave comments, don't forget to make sure you are subscribed. We will see you you boys. Will see everybody this weekend at the two games, will and on this show. We will see you next week.

01:05:36
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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