Hour 1 – Belichick Gets the Shaft, Mike McCarthy Introduced in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, we made it to a Wednesday. I thought it was going to be a quiet Tuesday, and then all of a sudden it wasn't talk about that With Bill Belichick and Mike McCarthy sworn in as the Steelers head coach, Joe Brady gets elevated to the Buffalo Bills head coach. We'll talk about those coaching hires as well. Eight seven seven to three DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. Good morning if you're watching on Peacock or the NBC Sports Network, and we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country, including iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio as well. South Pallantonio Hall of Fame voter will join us a little bit later on former NFL defensive back Dominic Foxworth from the Mothership. We'll stop by as well. Got a play of the Day poll question, a stat of the day or two stat of the day. Brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Wist how we are brought to you by Liberty Mutual Insurance. Well, I pay full price when you can customize and save. Switch to Liberty Mutual. They'll customize your auto and home insurance so you only pay for what you need. All right, Bill Belichick not a Hall of Famer at least this year. And got a call yesterday afternoon. Somebody gave me a heads up and he said, Hey, I don't know if it's official yet, but Bill's not going to get in, and I you know, it's one of those where you go, oh, that's right for the Hall of Fame. Coaches don't have to wait five years, it's one year. Mike Tomlin's eligible next year for the Hall of Fame. Didn't even think anything of it, and then all of a sudden it came out that it was true. Bill Belichick didn't get eighty percent of the votes. Now there's fifty voters have to have at least forty who say yay or nay, And apparently you had at least eleven voters who decided that Bill Belichick was going to have to wait.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: They factored in spygate, They factored into flate Gate, even though Bill wasn't involved into flate Gate except for defending Tom Brady. Spygate. We've talked about that ad nauseum about what they did. You know, Belichick and the Patriots have been on the receiving end of two of the highest punishments in NFL history as far as draft picks and fines. But for Bill Belichick six super Bowls as a coach, two as a defensive coordinator, eight and he's on the outside looking in. Now we can talk about how egregious this is in voters and what they factor in. And you are supposed to factor in football stuff, not ancillary stuff like off the field. They probably did that with Michael Irvin, They probably did that with Terrell Owens to a certain degree. I don't know if they factored in that with Lawrence Taylor. But this also pushes back the other coaches who were up for Hall of Fame consideration. Does Belichick get in next year? These are the other coaches who were semi finalists, Tom Kaflin, Mike Holmgren, Chuck Knox, Buddy Parker, Dan Reeves, Marty Schottenheimer, George Seffert, Mike Shanahan, Which means they go into the pool next year because Belichick did not get in. Talking to a voter yesterday who did talk about the whole process, a ten am until six pm, zoom call. You kind of speak up for somebody. There were a couple people who spoke up against people. I've been lobbying for transparency. I make this c span make it, you know, PBS. Let us see what goes on like one day. Let us understand the importance of this. It's the Hall of Fame, the importance for these other players. But if you get five finalists and you have to vote for three of the five to get into the Hall of Fame, and it's got to be eighty percent, well, as I was told by one of the voters, you end up splitting your votes and then nobody gets in. So Ken Anderson doesn't get in, or Roger Craig or Else Greenwood. These are all Hall of famers, but it should just be five. If you get it to five, celebrate five instead of not celebrating anybody. And there's such a backlog. This is a big problem for the Hall of Fame moving forward, because like Luke Keikley's a Hall of Famer, he should be in the Hall of Fame. Adam Vinnittterry should be in the Hall of Fame. You get this backlog and then you get more players who are going to come in. Larry Fitzgerald will probably get in this year, Drew Brees getting in this year. But this is separate from this. You know, the Senior Committee voting on these players. You know it's their last go round. Many of you didn't see L. C. Greenwood or Kenny Anderson. I have no problem with them being Hall of famers. Roger Craig was that first back that could run and catch. I have no probably played for great teams Hall of Famer, but we get nothing out of it except for, Hey, we showed Bill Belichick, because that's what it felt like. You use this referendum, this platform to say, hey, Bill, you're not bigger than the game. Bill Pollian in the Hall of Fame said he's not even sure if he voted for Bill Belichick. He thought he did. Wait a minute, former Colts GM, and you don't remember if you voted for Bill Belichick. I mean, it wasn't that long ago, Bill. And then there are reports that maybe you had some subterfuge, something was orchestrated behind the scenes, people trying to gather enough votes. We need eleven votes. Bill won't get in. We'll teach him now whether that happen or not. There's certainly been speculation reporting on that. But when Bill Pullian said that Belichick should be in, but he's not sure, if he's not one hundred percent sure if he voted for Bill Belichick, there weren't that many candidates to remember if you voted yay or nay. So that's part of it as well. You're going to get you know, people probably have a grudge against Bill, people who lost to Bill, people who thought Bill cheated. I mean, Robert Kraft should be in the Hall of Fame when you think about what he's done. He's not in. Now he might get in this year. We don't know what the results are. All we're hearing is that Bill Belichick's not getting in. But it just makes the Hall of Fame look bad, that's all because this is it's obvious, even you know, with his foibles, even with every you know, all the blemishes here, he's still first ballot Hall of Famer. And if you don't think he's the greatest coach in NFL history, it doesn't take long to take role to find out where he is on that list. He did it, he did it at a very high level. Now does first thing I thought of when I was told this and even said this back to the voter, I go, well, what's this mean for Tom Brady? And he goes, I didn't even think of that. I said, well, be consistent. If this is what you're going to do, now, are you going to vote for Belichick next year? If you didn't vote for him this year? So you're going to say, yes, I did this, Yes I'm holding him accountable. Don't vote for him ever again if that's how you feel. Did he cheat? He kind of cheated, so you're not going to vote for him. Tom Brady he was part of I mean, he benefited from spygate. Deflategate was silly to begin with, but still you lie to the commissioner, you get spended, your team, you know, gets punished. Then don't put Tom Brady in next year, you know, or when he's eligible if you're not. If you're going to hold Belichick to a higher standard, then hold Brady to a higher standard as well. Brady, though I know, had a letter that was read that he spoke up on Bill Belichick's behalf, but he wasn't involved in the zoom call from what I'm told, But it just felt like there was an agenda here with Bill Belichick. I just hate the fact that these other players, former players, aren't going to get their day because it's going to be all about Bill Belichick. And that's unfortunate because the Hall of Fame, it's a museum. Do you qualify, Yes, you qualify. Did you do something incredible? Yes, then we should celebrate that. Did Belichick cheat? Yes, in accordance to you know, the commissioner, he cheated. Okay, he paid a price. Julius Peppers got popped, I think his rookie year, second year in the league for Peds. Now, granted it might have been a fedrin. He's the first ballot Hall of Famer. Do you hold him accountable? He gets a whole passed. I just hate when we pick and choose justice here when it comes to sports now, did the Astros cheat? They did cheat? Or Barry Bonds? Did he cheat? Yes, he cheated? Okay? Should you have put an asterisk by Bill Belichick's name like they did Pete Rose? If he did something and you're going to hold him acountable, then just let us know. We're not going to let you win. We're not going to let you, you know, first year whatever it is, but to come out and be the morality police here. And it feels like those who might have been on the receiving end of a Patriot win had a problem with Bill Belichick, including those with the Colts. Yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 4: The initial report by Doc Van Natt and ESPN accused Bill Polling of telling his Spellow voters that Belichick should serve a one year penance for Spygate. I really agree with what you said earlier. If you're not going to vote him in this year, be consistent, don't vote him in next year if you're one of the eleven voters who didn't stick with whatever you thought.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know Robert Kraft is going to be held accountable as the owner of the Patriots. Robert Craft's eighty four years of age, and he was a Hall of Fame finalist after fourteen years, and it's unknown if he or any other finalist received the necessary votes for induction. So you're punishing Robert Craft. You put Jerry Jones in, but you're going to punish Robert Kraft. Okay, it's just picking and choosing, and it kind of puts yourself in a really delicate predicament here when it comes to who cheated, didn't cheat, kind of cheated? You know, all of this year, your voters celebrate the game. If you want to say, hey, you know, I voted for Bill. I have a problem with what happened with Spygate, but I voted for Bill. His resume is too good, you know, incredible coach, greatest coach ever, one of the greatest coaches ever. It's just it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. But oh, by the way, a couple of coaching hires yesterday, and should Or Sanders is going to be a Pro Bowl quarterback. That's what I thought the day was going to be. And then all of a sudden, it's like, wait a minute, wow. And then even hearing from a source this morning who followed up with me and gave me a little bit more background information on it. And also you know, they they're going to change they're going to change the format next year from what I'm told, And maybe you have five. I mean, you're narrowing it down to five. Doesn't that be good enough? Because I don't want this backlog, and I don't want this to affect other players coaches who may not be alive when they get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, celebrate Elsie Greenwood passed away, his widow still alive, not going to get that moment to celebrate, or Kenny Anderson, the former Bengal quarterback, or Roger Craig. You can't say, well next year. Next year it's like Larry Fitzgerald will get in probably first battle of the Hall of Famer, which means Reggie Wayne and Tory Holt they won't get in or they're going to get pushed back because every year it's somebody where you go, well, Hall of Famer, and that's the way it's going to be. But this backlog here, they got to change that because you've got so many people. Then they're waiting for that knock on the door, they're waiting for that phone call, and they deserve that. But the way it is now, if you pare it down to five and then you have to vote for three, and not everybody is gonna be voting eighty percent for somebody, and that's a shame. If you get to the final five, you should get in. You shure, all right, well, come up with a pole question. We will play the Mike McCarthy cliche game. What was going to be the first cliche that he would say at his press conference? Man, he looked like me when he got up in front of the media crying. I'm like, Mike, keep it together. Maybe immediately I thought I'm gonna be like at my daughter's wedding later this summer, just gonna get up there and be like Mike McCarthy. Joe Brady got promoted. He was the offensive coordinator in Buffalo. So the Browns might be zeroing in on a head coach, might be Arizona and Vegas. I still think Vegas is holding out for somebody who is coaching in Super Bowl. At least that's my gut feeling. I don't know what Arizona's doing. And Cleveland might just hire Jim Schwartzer, promote Jim Schwartz. Somebody's got to want to take that job, all right, someone? All right, Well, take a break, just getting started on this Wednesday. Gangs all here, Fritzy Seat and Marv Paula, yours truly the back room, guys, and we'll get to your phone calls as well. Right after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: We'll settle on a poll question your phone calls always welcome. Peter King, frequent guest on the show and a Hall of Fame voter for over thirty years, said, whoever it was that couldn't set aside Belichick being a jerk to them, or who have sneered at how he's conducted himself over the past year or got their way proving yet again that no amount of power gets abused, like hardly any at all. So congratulations to those who didn't want him in. You got your pound of flesh at the expense of the integrity of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Paula, you have some questions that you believe the audience would like answers to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen these out there, and this one goes right to what Peter King just said. Do you think that the eleven voters who didn't vote for Belichick you spygate as the rationale. Well, it's really about how Bill treated their media brethren in the past two decades.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to get that Bill Pollion didn't vote for Bill Belichick. That's just my thought of reading everything that I've read and the reporting attached to this, So it's not just members of the media. But I hope that that's not the case. I from what I was told last night and reiterated this morning, spygate was brought up. Bill was involved into Fleetgate, but spygate, Spygate one, Spygate two brought up. I'm hoping if that's what they held this against Bill, they did that instead of hey, you were a jerk if you got in. If you're a jerk or not a jerk, well, there's a lot of people wouldn't get into holes of fame. All right, what else bullying?

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Speaker 4: Should Bill Belichick respond today?

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Speaker 2: No, in any way, No, No, Let everybody carry his water for him. Let everybody fight the battle for him. You know, if Bill wants to come out and say disappointed, I want to congratulate those who are going to go into the Hall of Fame, that's fine. And if he announces it just like that, then I'll be fine with that. Okay.

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Speaker 4: A follow up question, this is mine. Okay, weirdly, did Bill Belichick have a good day yesterday? Because the past two years, his reputation as legacy has taken a beating, And after this came down yesterday, everybody, football people, non football people all reminded the world of that he's the greatest football coach ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's that. And I don't know if he's embarrassed or humiliated or whatever that is, because it shouldn't be on Bill. It's really the Hall of Fame voters, And anytime I voted for an award, I let people know who I voted for or if I didn't vote for somebody. I believe in transparency because the importance of this this is I mean it's the culmination, and we should know why you don't like somebody or why you do what was the you know, hold up, why didn't this guy get in? But this guy got in, and like we want to understand this, We want to understand numbers when it comes to stats, a wide receiver quarterback in the sixties as opposed to one. You know, now you're all going into the Hall of Fame and trying to come up with context of this is why you got in or this is why you didn't. I guess Tom Kauflin a Hall of Famer. Well, now it's going to be the Well Belichick isn't is Mike Holmgren a Hall of Famer? Mike Shanahan? I mean Don Coriel was in the Hall of Fame. Now he's in because he's an innovator. He wasn't a you know, they won three playoff games. I think he won just over one hundred games. But he changed the passing attack, Eric Coriel. Tom Flores won a couple of Super Bowls, but I don't know if people considered him one of the great coaches of all time. And this is what you hate to do because now you go, well, wait a minute, that guy got in or that guy got in, or that guy didn't get in, and that's unfortunate. That shouldn't be the case here with Bill Belichick. If he didn't get in unanimously, Okay, I mean that happens, but then you would I'd be curious why you didn't vote for him. And if five voters said I couldn't get past spygate, yeah, he cheated the game. I can't get past that, and I can't give him the distinction of going in on the first ballot, my ballot. Okay, all right, you build up the cachet to be able to vote on the Pro Football Hall of Fame. You've been around the league. Have you done this for other players or coaches, things that you hold them accountable for?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, this is another one. You went over the rules to get in. And you know it had to be eleven, ten or more people to not vote for Belichick for him not to get in. Correct, If it was eight, he's in.

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Speaker 2: They had get eleven.

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Speaker 4: Okay, based off that, it's a coincidence. It's not a coincidence that's at eleven. My theory is this, whomever stirred the pot for this stirred the pot before they walked into the room and made sure they had the eleven votes to not get him in.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if you went in and you could be convinced once you went in, and how much you know time you were spending on spygag. It feels like this is probably premeditated that people knew or discussed that Bill shouldn't go in on the first ballot. Yeah, pulling last one.

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Speaker 4: If you were a Hall of Fame voter that didn't vote for Belichick, would you admit it today and be open to talking about it today?

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Speaker 2: I would, But I can only speak if I was voting. I mean, now, this is apples to bananas, not even apples to apples or oranges. But when I voted on the MVP and I didn't vote for Karl malone one year, and I didn't vote for Charles Barkley one year, and I said, because Michael Jordan is the most valuable player and he'll win the championship. But I had to answer to a newspaper in Salt Lake City and a newspaper in Phoenix, Arizona. But I okay, Charles was wonderful that year. Karl Malone was wonderful that year. But I'm not ashamed that I didn't vote for them. I voted for Jordan. Not a big stretch there, but still you I put my name in front of that. I think I got the Heisman Trophy. I tell you who I voted for. So but the Hall of Fame, you know, there's I mean that's forever, you know, that's the culmination of a career, and there's so much attached to that. Imagine these these candidates and you're just waiting. Imagine being a finalist for nine years. I think Reggie Wayne has been a final Tory Holt. They're just waiting, waiting, and you can't add to your stats, you can't go out and play, and you just wait and those who get you know, you get. You're in a hotel room in Canton, Ohio, and they're gonna be Are they gonna knock on my door? Just if they do, I'm getting in. Just imagine you're waiting, waiting. I talked to a candidate this is years ago, and he was told he was getting in, told he was getting it. He just waited and waited, and then you realize that knock is not coming for that year, that build up, that letdown. He eventually got in. Oh, he eventually got in. And he even jokes he said, knock down the door. Don't knock on it, knock it down.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Todd, is there an exact cutoff time so you could be put out of your misery. It's like, I don't get to knock by two thirties in time, it's not happening, as opposed to waiting long hours of the afternoon into the evening still hoping they're gonna come.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, there's a time element.

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Speaker 6: And they know exactly once that time hits you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 7: Imagine if you're somebody like Chris Carter, who for I thought was a for sure first Battle Hall of Famer, you wait six years, Yeah, like or t O t O waited wait two or three years.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know it's it. There's so much attached to it, so much emotion, Like I hope Kenny Anderson gets into the Hall of Fame. I hope Roger Craig gets in, or el C. Greenwood. But you know there's this backlog that's part of the problem. If you have five but then with your voting nobody gets in. Did you do your job. I think that's that's where it's flawed. I think it'll change next year. Yeah. Point.

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Speaker 4: What I found interesting about the reaction on social media, people who don't like Bilbi or teams fans of teams that he beat, were like, well, you know, I can't stand the guy. He was not nice in the media, but him not being first ballad is inexcusable.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know Bill Belichick. I had very very little interaction with him. But it's not like there were guys that I didn't like. But I have to be honest and say they were Hall of Fame players or I might have had a run in with somebody. It doesn't matter, you know. And I think that's the unfortunate part is you sometimes look at those voters and you go, we're the gatekeepers here. Yeah, set.

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Speaker 9: Bill Belichick has won like ten percent of all Super Bowls.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's been a part of eight out of fifty nine if you look at him as a coordinator with.

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Speaker 9: All the ones that were ever played, of all the that there have ever been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he's won six as a head coach out of the fifty nine. So a little better than ten percent.

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Speaker 9: Not that great sorry, I'm sorry, it's my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Yeah, Pully, I know this is before your time, but I've read stories about Ted Williams, the great Hall of Fame baseball player, that he was not very cooperative or friendly with the media and was disliked by some of the media. I looked it up.

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Speaker 3: He was not.

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Speaker 4: He got ninety three percent of the vote. That means that twenty people didn't vote for Ted Williams on the first ballot. A war hero WHI shouldn't even count, but should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Ted wasn't nice to anybody, right, And the writers in Boston, I think the year he batted four oh six, they voted Joe DiMaggio now Demagio the fifty six game hitting streak. But even the local writers and normally the local writers, you know, it's a home field advantage, you know, But Teddy ballgame was. He didn't care. He didn't care. He is playing and if you liked him, great, if you didn't. He was not trying to curry favor. And there are players who are in you know, modern day, who are very media friendly and it's helped them get into the Hall of Fame. I really believe that. Let's see a couple of phone calls here. Once again, Joe Brady elevated as the head coach of the Bills. I don't like this, But I don't like it because if you're going to change something and get rid of Sean McDermott, you're going to promote your offensive coordinator and you're going to keep your GM. So have you changed anything here? And Josh Allen reportedly was involved in this, and Joe Brady, you know, he's number one fan the Josh Allen fan Club. But I don't know what changes here because you were running Joe Brady's offense correct and the players you were brought in were brought in by Brandon Bean. What's changing except for your moving into a new stadium. So I didn't I thought the hiring was like okay. And then Mike McCarthy going to Pittsburgh. It was emotional for him because he was coming back home and he talked about well being the Steelers head coach and he got very emotional.

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Speaker 10: You know, oftentimes coaches and players, you know, you put on new team colors and it takes a minute to feel comfortable in those new colors. But to be blessed beyond any measure one day to put on the colors you wore since he brought home. I'll Paul Juts when you come home from Mercy Hospital. I do want to think. I want to thank art Or Roney, Homwork Hahn, Dan Rooney, and the entire Steelers organization for the trust they placed in me to represent one of the most stored franchise in all sports. I understand and embrace the responsibility, the privilege in the way that comes with the stewardship the city, this franchise, this fan base made the world to me because Pittsburgh's my world and it's just awesome to be back here.

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Speaker 2: And then he talked about his goal as the Steeler head coach.

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Speaker 10: I do want to thank two men I'm very fortunate to call friends, Mike Tomlin and Bill Cower. They've represented this organization with such class and I'm honored, honored to follow in their footsteps. They left the preferable.

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Speaker 2: Cupboard full.

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Speaker 10: For sure, my focus as singler and it's time to bring another championship back to this great city. With that, I just want to make sure that when we do get that trophy at you know, the seventh trophy in the case, we'll start that victory. Pray it'll live us a thirty seventh Green Foot Avenue.

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Speaker 2: All right, we did the Mike McCarthy cliche game. Prior to the press conference, Seaton gave us a rich tradition of football history in Pittsburgh. I feel like I was close on that. Marvin upholding the standard. Todd talked about chasing Super Bowl seven. Paul talked about building a football culture. I gave you two of them. This is hard working city and we're just going to be playing football. We're hardworking football team, and that's what we're going to be doing. And then I brought up that he would. I modified mine by saying he's going to say that I'm back home now. All right, I'm coming back home now. Here is your winner in the Mike McCarthy cliche game yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I'm well aware that anything short of bringing the Super Bowl title back to this great city and its fans is unacceptable, and I can assure you that I will do everything in my power to do just that. If my math is correct, the Steels organization has won six championships. That being said, my new favorite number is lucky seven. Hold on tight to your terrible towels, because I assure you we're about to go on a wild, exciting ride.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's his speech. I was looking for a cliche.

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Speaker 6: Lucky seven. Okay, it's all about lucky number seven, seventh title.

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Speaker 4: All right, so Todd one, there's a debate in the back room. Todd's thing was not a cliche, but he nailed what Mike McCarthy eventually said.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I mean I'll give it to you on a technicality. I think he got it.

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Speaker 9: Okay, all right, I think he got I mean it's pretty cliche to go up there. So well, well, we're trying to win. I mean, I came here to win day one. How long will it take the turn this roung. I came to win day one. Nobody can win the Super Bowl on day one, but cold football coaches want to win this one.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I thought, we're a hard work in city, and we're gonna just gonna be a hard work and football team is what we're gonna do. I'm back home, y asked Marvin Stewardship. Was on my that's my next guess. Yes, I am so mad. I didn't go with the old faithful of privilege in stewardship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was so obvious.

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Speaker 2: Miss Chris and Syracuse. Hi Chris, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 11: Thanks as always, Dan. Yeah, for a possible pole question of yesterday's presser in Pittsburgh, the possibility of Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy being reunited next season. Viking coach Kevin McConnell has stated Kevin O'Connell has stated not that he's looking for a capable backup for JJ McCarthy, but competition for him And Dan, you mentioned last week tying maybe Aaron Rodgers to the Vikes, and it makes sense. Rodgers wanted to play in Minnesota last year. And I'll have a ton of weapons, good offensive line, very good defense, So unlike his last few years in Green Bay and with the Jets and the Steelers, he won't be expected to carry the team. Plus they'll play a majority of his games indoors, which has never had that luxury. So yeah, if he has anything left in the tank, he could put the Vikes over the top. And the Pro Football Hall of Fame has always said, unlike baseball, they never take anything off the field into account, So you wonder if Bill Pollion's influence is behind the snub. And I think Tony Dungee's a voter and has a relationship with Bill Polly, and I wonder what his thoughts are.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but this was on the field. Spygate was on the field. That's a football crime. The flate gate. Bill wasn't involved in that other than trying to defend Tom Brady. But spy gate, Spygate one, Spygate two, that's a football crime. Mark and Vermont, I Mark, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: Hi, Dann, longtime caller. Well, I've actually been listening since Gate. That's when I started listening to talk radio, Sports Talk radio and anyway five eleven, I have a comment and a couple and a question. My question was, was Bill in the hotel in Canton waiting for his knock?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, those those are the players uh in Canton who wait for the knock that this is the Senior Committee. So no, that that he's not in Canton now or wasn't good.

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Speaker 12: I'm glad for that because he doesn't deserve that. And I also I had heard that Bill Parcells also didn't get in on the first ballot because the thinking was he might come back and coach, and I would love to see Jill come back and get Shula's record. And then my other comment, Dan was that one thing that I've loved and missed in recent years is your Bill impersonations. And I hope that out of this we start to hear a little bit more of you impersonating.

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Speaker 8: Bill Belichick at his pressers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark. I remember talking to Bill Parcells We're in Tampa and he announced that he was coming back to coach, and I remember asking him about putting aside going into the Hall of Fame or being Hall of Fame eligible, and he couldn't care less Like we thought, boy, you're going to reset the clock there. But coaches only have to wait a year. Mike Tomlin is eligible next year for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I don't know why they do that, but Tomlin will be up for the Hall of Fame next year. All Right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up, and uh, we're gonna We're gonna bring back something Reggie Miller said yesterday that apparently set the Internet on fire at over a million views of what Reggie Miller had to say about Derreck Rose and Lebron James. We'll have that for you coming up as well. But next our Play of the Day.

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Speaker 2: Courtesy of the Sixers Radio Network. Joel eenbiid at eighteen in the first quarter, ended up with twenty nine. Paul George had thirty two. Bucks have lost three in a row, six of their last seven. That is your Play of the day. Play of the Day brought to you by the great folks at Penske Truck Rental. We're using Penske to take some of our gear across country for the Big Game. Quick pick up and drop off at thousands of locations across North America, flexible reservations, personalized support, gain ground with Penski right. Reggie Miller was on yesterday and we were talking about Derrick Rose got his jersey retired by the Chicago Bulls, and then Reggie had this to say, Derrick Rose got his jersey retired. He going to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 13: I would be surprised if he doesn't, he would be the only MVP not to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Man, if he didn't get give me a first ballot.

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Speaker 13: I doubt he'll be first ballot, but he'll get in at some point. But for a six to eight year stretch he was him and Lebron were battling for who was the best player in the game and the youngest MVP. I would be surprised. At some point he's going to get in.

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Speaker 1: All MVPs get in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, was Reggie wrong with the time element there? Yeah, six to eight years because Derek Rose wasn't healthy. But I think off the top of his head, he didn't know that was going to be something I brought up. But there was a three year window where you could say that Derek Rose was equal with Lebron James. He was an MVP, the youngest MVP, and then he got hurt. But six to eight years he wasn't battling Lebron James. So Reg misspoke there, Reg is my guy. But I think if you look at Derek Rose's career, he was a comet. He was, you know, burst onto the scene, and you know, those first three years he elevated himself to one of the best players in the game. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: See, it definitely felt like there was a moment there where it was like, man, this might be his league now or this is certainly the next guy for sure, you know.

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Speaker 2: But there were over a million views of that yesterday, probably more than that. You you know, you put Bron into the equation with Derek Rose. But if I had Reggie on now he's traveling, you know, I would say, you don't mean six to eight years, because that's not true. But there was a three year window there where Dereck Rose was a force to be reckoned with and one of the best players in the game. Yeah point.

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Speaker 4: And to back that argument, Derek Rose won the MVP in his third season. Lebron won in his sixth. When Lebron went on his run from eight to twenty thirteen, he won four of five MVPs. The only year he didn't win it was the year Derek Rose did. Derek Rose was given one hundred million dollar deal by Adidas. Like Seten said, he was the next guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, then he got hurt. But no, he didn't have longevity there. But I know people are roughing up Reggie because Reggie has him doing something great six to eight years and that wasn't the case. But Reggie's my guy. He made a mistake here. I would say it to him if he joined us. Let's see Greg and Tampa. Good morning Greg, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Hey, good morning Geep. I wanted to get your thoughts on what you think about what Ryan Lee said. I don't know if you heard or not. Apparently he's one of the Hall of Fame voters and on his Twitter he said he didn't vote for Belichick.

00:38:59
Speaker 3: It comes time.

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Speaker 8: I'm if you're able to penetrate the wall of the voting here or anyone's resentments can be fueled with revenge. Mom ain't getting in either, lost the fowls, no.

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Speaker 2: Way, no, how Okay. Ryan Leaf is not a Hall of Fame voter. He was he was kidding, but he's not a Hall of Fame voter. But thank you for the phone call, Greg Jamie and Virginia Beach. Hi Jamie, Hey, good morning, Dan.

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Speaker 3: I just got a predition to make up Bill Belichick snub of all time. I really think it's prideful of a person as he is. You're probably gonna see one of his better coaching performances this year in college football. I mean, I just think he's gonna be waiting and waiting for this college football season to start, and it's just gonna be an impressive thing to watch this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that this is going to be motivation for him. I don't know if he's now going to try harder than he did when he first got there to North Carolin. I know, yeah, I don't see that at all. Yes, Marv, do you also see this omission being a distraction. Maybe the Patriot's going to get way too many questions about this during superlel Week, like Vrabel might get a bunch of like he's not in the Hall, Like yeah, you know, people are going to ask Robert Kraft if he makes himself available, or going to ask you Robert Craft should be in the Hall of Fame. I mean, I know that we're looking at Bill Belichick. Robert Kraft has been eligible for quite some time, and now he is back in the Super Bowl again. Hopefully he gets in. You know, I always look at this and I know it's morbid, but you start to look at this posthumously and having watched these players, you know they get up there in age. Steve McMichael of the Bears. Health wise, you know you have CTE, you have you know you have all of this certainly with football is to be able to celebrate and actually truly be able to celebrate with your family, teammates. But Robert Kraft deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Belichick will get into the Hall of Fame. We'll talk to a Hall of Fame voter. He'll join us, coming up here in ten minutes from now. Also South Palantonio, another Hall of Fame voter, will get their thoughts. And should we know who didn't vote for or who did vote for a candidate. We'll talk about that as well. One hour in the books, two more to go in this Wednesday. Fritzie Seat and Marv Paully yours truly, Dan Patrick's show