Getting Clarity with Charity

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Speaker 1: What's up at your nation? Welcome back to Batchel Happy Hour. We have a good one for you this week. The Bachelorette is finally hair Charity. Welcome, Welcome to the Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. I'm excited to be here. Ready to chat it up. See what we're dub into today.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Serena is I am as well. Serena is very excited to meet you.

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Speaker 3: I am. I'm so excited. I don't believe it's halfway through your season. We haven't had you on yet, so it's about to cover. It's going back to so fast. Wow, it must feel even faster for you.

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Speaker 2: For sure it does because I'm like we just started this, but like I'm lucky ready to be like trying to get it in. Yeah, was the was.

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Speaker 1: The lead up? How long did it feel for the lead up to the show, like you know, after you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like forever? Truly. I was like, because we wrapped like sometime in May, like the first week in May, and then obviously like my premiere wasn't until like Jane twenty six, I was like this that window in between and then obviously doing so much. It was a lot but like I was like, come on, let's let's get this going. And now it's like it's a breazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, the sooner it starts, the sooner it ends, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Were there ever? Were there ever days where you were like totally forgot that you had just filmed a show?

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Speaker 3: No, no, okay, Joe Joe saying that because he filmed a show a few months ago and it doesn't air for like a year. So there's days where you're like, wow, man, I literally forgot it was on that show. It hasn't even aired yet. But I feel like for you the two month window, it's like all you're probably thinking about is like, okay, six weeks, five weeks, four weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean my whole life is honestly this right now. So yeah, And it's different.

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Speaker 1: When you're I mean, you're the lead of the shu. The show is literally all it's about you. Yeah. Do you ever think you're gonna have a show about you?

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Speaker 3: Where?

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Speaker 1: Where are you now? Where are you in the world?

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Speaker 2: So I am in Charlotte, North Carolina right now, and so just kind of going back and forth between here in La but.

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Speaker 1: Okay that that's where you live. Oh you like North Carolina, I do.

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Speaker 2: I do very sharp, like a good like combination of like city but also like I mean, I'm obviously from the South, so I'm used to like the small town feel. It kind of has like a good blend of those two. Okay, nice.

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Speaker 3: We're getting married in South Carolina and South Carolina, so okay, my American geography isn't that good. But we're getting married in South Carolina in Charleston, which is different.

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Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. Oh my goodness, Charleston is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be fine. And then we hear you've got an exciting trip starting today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll headed out to Miami coming up this weekend and be a little girls trip with a couple of Batchelor the girls meet kat Kylie, Jesse Meorsades.

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Speaker 3: I feel like your season more than most you guys have done so many girls trips, Like you've stayed really close, which is nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is actually really refreshing, obviously, Like it's a blessing to come into like this whole experience and like to have like or to find friends, and these girls truly are everything to me, so it's it's really good to have them still obviously in my corner as I'm navigating this too on my AM.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, where are you guys staying in Miami?

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Speaker 2: Were at the Good Time Hotel?

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Speaker 1: You didn't have to give me the hotel. It is more like a feature. We here is the address.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, but I was like, here you get you want the room number?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Good Time Hotel. It is eight twenty six South Beach Avenue. Nice. Don't worry. This podcast is going to come out when you're you're only going for the weekend. I'm assuming, Yeah, yeah, you're good, you'll be back. You guys gonna go to Bodega. Go to Bodega. That's a cool old bar.

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Speaker 2: And okay, I'll put it on the list. I'll put it on this for us.

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Speaker 1: That's a fun one.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: We should probably we should probably get into some kind of an interview. Let's do it, Okay, So Charity Bachelorette. I guess my first question is when did it? When did it finally hit you that you wore the Bachelorette, Like after after Zach season wrap, they ask you, but like when does it really like, oh, this shit's real.

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Speaker 2: It honestly didn't hit me until I want to say a little bit leading up tonight one, which is like so much further down the line, not even while I was doing like the big like press shoot for ABC like that, Like it was so surreal. Still in that moment, I was like, Okay, I'm just kind of go through the motions but obviously having a blast doing it, but leading up tonight one and like kind of getting those feelings of like nervous energy again. That was kind of that moment for me where I was like, oh, like this is this is real, Like I'm actually about to be the one that is in control leading this show. In night one, obviously I just was almost blacked out.

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Speaker 1: So okay, what guys, what guys? Night one left the biggest impression.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, after Night one, I would have to.

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Speaker 2: Say Warwick and then Joey, even though we lacked eye contact, well that whole conversation, it was the one good conversation. I would have to say Dott and Blema. Entrance was so like just I felt like comfortable with him and it was like we had like this contagious like energy together. Aaron b he was great and Xavior.

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Speaker 3: So it's so interesting because I feel like the guys you listed four of them. Yes, we really saw the connection. One of them, specifically Warwick. We saw that connection did not develop as I'm assuming you expected it too.

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Speaker 2: I definitely I think I put I don't want to say I put expectations on him, but like it's obviously like, oh I I had a good person impression of him, and it's like, oh, I'm eager to learn more. And so that's truly why I felt like I gave him that one on one. I was like, I'm I'm wanting to get more individualized time with you and I it just was a date that just we were on two separate things, just truly like totally different people but just fine. But it was awkward.

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Speaker 1: You see, I thought for me, I don't know, maybe I probably overthink it, but I thought you asked Warwick on that date kind of like, yeah, I'm not sure about this guy, so let me check him. Let's let me take him on a date. But I'm probably going to send them home.

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Speaker 2: Well you're not, I guess, yeah, like a little bit of both. It's like I definitely wanted to get to No more. But like it's always like that what if of like if we don't like get along or if things don't like mesh up together. So I kind of did, but like I definitely was not expecting it to go as south as it did. I did not. I was like, Okay, he's going to give me something. When I got nothing, that's when I was like, all right, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: Not It seemed like, yeah, there was just no connection on both sides, Like it seemed like you both want your separate ways. You were like bye Warwick.

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Speaker 2: He was like bye, Charity, that's right, taking map in the cars Like I wish I could do that. But yeah, now we were we were real good term so it's good. All right.

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Speaker 1: So Charity, we got you lying already on the podcast cause you didn't mention Braiden and you gave him the first impression. Rose.

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Speaker 2: That's so sad that telling lie number one.

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Speaker 1: So you but we do see. I want to talk about the conversation with you and your brother where he's like I don't trust this Braiden guy, and I'm not ready yeah to him, and you kind of just went opposite, which I thought was a power move, and I was like, good for you, like, like I believe you're taking in his information. But you're going to make your own decisions. But yeah, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's like I feel like I get this question a lot, but it's just like obviously, like I think what we see is honestly as real as it was in the moment too, for like me and Braiden's relationship, and especially after night one, like the conversation, like I think out the limmail, like obviously we took shots, so I was like, he knows me, like grey already all to a good start, but that conversation we just had like a lot I felt in common. And then him just like bringing up like, you know, the qualities that he saw as to why he even like wanted to come on the show really stood out to me. So it's like I felt really comfortable around him. And that night is extremely chaotic. There's a lot going on, as we know, and so to have a conversation where you're just like, oh, like you can just like let out a side of relief and just be yourself, Like that's honestly what I felt around braid And he's very charismatic, So I was really caught off guard obviously, like watching it back and kind of seeing like the interviews and seeing like kind of what was happening behind the scenes with the guides, and then obviously what he likes shared with my brother. So when my brother got a chance to talk to me that night, he did share a lot more about like a few other guys, but like in specifics, like Branden was kind of one that kind of came up a lot of just crossing that line between confident and caught, which he knows, like confidence is something that I'm really looking for in a guy. And so when I had that conversation, I was like, I don't know, it's like almost part of me was a little defensive because I was like, that's not what I got from him, Like I didn't get like cocky, but obviously you're seeing something that I'm not, So I didn't want to add too prematurely on it. So I was like, I'm going to take your information, but we'll see, Like obviously, we'll keep him around and see if that obviously plays out to be what it is, and if not, then I'll be right in this situation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, No, I like that. I like that you were like, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt right now, because you know your brother. Obviously you trust his advice. He's your brother, but you've also been in branden choose where it's like it's night wine, it's so hectic, like it's a whole new experience, So like maybe he just needs to kind of like settle into that. Obviously it didn't work out, but not but that's okay. You know you're only gonna end with one.

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Speaker 1: Guy, right, And I promise you this whole interview is not going to be about Branden. But since you woke since you woke up and you were ready to go this morning, is what you told us. There was a comment, can she just not be the bachelorette herself?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What's up, Charity?

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Speaker 2: What do you say that that that comment? Honestly, it's not the first time I heard it, but I just didn't know. Again, this is the whole problem with me and Braiden. It's like what is told with me also gets sheered again as a topic of discussion for the guys in the house, and that was like a problem for me. The excuse me. But when it comes to that comment, Branden actually did share that with me on our one on one date. He just was like, not really I guess easing into the comfortability of just like what this whole thing was, like, what the premise of it. And so I was trying to be like very comforting and like telling him, like I'm exactly what you're seeing is like this is cheerity, Like you're gonna get this here, You're gonna get this when this show is over with, Like there's no like non authentic version of myself. And so that's kind of what I took it when he kept bringing that up, is like I just want you to be off for a second. I'm like, well, I don't get to be off, Like I don't know what you mean by that. It's like I'm the bachelorette, but like I'm also not just a bachelorette. I'm cheerity, Like this is what I am, and it's like I'm having conversations with you. I'm trying to get to know you. I don't know what you mean by this. But I think for him, like that was like a tactic for him to just kind of u see his advantage in instance of like I guess I don't I really don't know what his intentions were with all of that, but it came across to me as like he was trying to label me as like not this authentic person. But I could be wrong, but there's no turning off the bachelorette. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're like you might not be seeing every single side of me right now because I'm the bacherette. But besides, you are seeing are one hundred percent me and you can't like fault me for the position I'm in because you're here because I'm the bachelorette, right So it's kind of like, yeah, it's it's hard. What was the moment that really was like, because you gave him a lot of patience and like, you guys had a lot of conversations and it really looked like you were both, especially you, trying to kind of make it work and get past his concerns. What was the moment where you were like, Okay, like my patience is up, this isn't gonna work out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, it was. I probably I don't want to say I have any regrets from the show, but like, you know, the moment where I'm like threatening to like take back his rods. I really should have acted then, but I was like in my head, I always like kind of overanalyzed things a little bit too much and it's like, well, what if I do it too soon and like something changes. So that's kind of where my head was at in that moment. But like when the whole skamania, like on that group day, Braden was really just, as Tanner said, do less like Brada was doing so much that day it was like starting to just like in a way like irritate me because I was like, I don't know, no, I was like, why are you acting like this? Like it was such erratic behavior and it was just like again like Tanner said, over compensating for something, and I saw like he was just being way more like voiceful and doing a lot more. So I was like, okay, this, like we're gonna have to have a conversation tonight. Little did I know like things were going to escalate to that manner. But like in that moment, whether or not he if he had no saying like I can't do this anymore, like I would have still probably sent him home because I just was at like the peak with him and I couldn't. I couldn't take it anymore.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a nice guy. I just think he wasn't ready, you know, Like I agree, it's just just as simple as that, Like he just really wasn't ready for the show. Okay, what about let's talk a little bit about Aaron B. Because he brought up a lot of the Brandon issues. Is that something that that you wanted as a lead or.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think I made it well. I don't know if I necessarily made it clear to the guys like just to kind of like focus on our relationship, but like I felt like I reiterated like not to bring anything up to me unless it was like a severe issue, and so like with this Braden thing and kind of like this view between and be, I didn't really understand it, and so I was like, Okay, like what's the point I'm bringing this up right now? But obviously it was like irritating Aaron B enough and then I can kind of see I was starting to like pick up on the energy from like the other guys in the house, and then that's when I kind of like started to focus on it. But initially, it's like I didn't want that to be the case because I know how it can go. It like it takes up too much time in the conversations and we don't have all the time in the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean there were a plethora of guys I feel like, specifically two in the beginning who were bringing a lot of the brain and drama to you, like right out of the gate, and those guys we obviously saw it go home. I feel like there just really wasn't a connection there either. But with Aaron b you know, we focus on him because he's the one that kind of brought the drama to your attention and is still here. How did that affect your connection because obviously he's a strong enough connection, he's going to hometown's, But how did him bring the brain and drama to you? Do you feel like it brought you closer? Do you feel like it you know, maybe kind of had you guys feel a little bit further apart.

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Speaker 2: I think not necessarily, like I guess it focusing like primarily on the Braiden drama. But I think just again, like the time, like we don't have a lot of time, and so like our conversation then sorry to shift from just like us growing our connection to now focusing on the braid and stuff. So then that's when I was like, Okay, we're not getting a whole lot of time, so I kind of felt like our connection had kind of or was starting to get to like a pause. And then that was like where it was concerning for me because like obviously we see like Aaron be got the first one on one of the seasons, So I was in a position of where I like saw like a like the trajectory of him going like truly all the way, and it's like I don't know where this is taking us, and it was kind of confusing for me in that moment. So yeah, I just didn't really I don't. I would say, I don't really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: What's more exhausting being being contestine or being the lead?

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Speaker 2: The lead? Hands down? Yeah down, there's no way and he could prepare for this.

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Speaker 1: Hey, has there ever been Was there ever a moment in the show like that you're like I'm in over my head, like I'm this is too much?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It definitely picked up around Fantasy Suites, like after in that transition from hometown into Fantasy Suites, that's when I was like my head started to become really clouded. It's like I felt like I was clear minded before then, and then a lot of like I think my emotions just really took like started to take over because I knew what was like coming at the end, and so as much as like the contestants and the guys were like probably navigating their own like feelings of like, oh am I ready to propose, like what does this look like? I was also kind of going through that. And I think it's like I came in with the my head set on like oh yes, absolutely engagement. But then I saw myself kind of like started a second guests at myself, and like that was like really scary because I was like, what's happening?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And I feel like even this past week, we saw you starting to show a lot of emotion for the guys you're sending home. And we definitely want to touch on like your connection with Sean and Tanner because Hot Sean, I'm so sorry. Have you heard about Hot Sean missing Sean Sean To fill you in, we were on Chicks in the Office this week, which I believe you've met Rhan and Fran as well, and they let us know that Sean used to work at Barstool's inter and his nickname was hot Sean. So we've taken on that nickname as well for him. But we personally didn't really see a super strong connection with you and Sean? Are you and Tanner? And feel free to like correct us if we're totally off on that, but you definitely got super emotional sending both of them home. So yeah, is there like a disconnect where you just maybe a little overtired slash felt bad for hurting them feelings like where do those?

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about yeah, yeah, But with Sean, I definitely will say, like I don't want to say he was one of like the lesser connections, Like most of my connections at that point were all strong, but obviously Tanner and Sean both had had less time and they were the ones that obviously did not have a one on one. So with Sean, our connection really kind of took a turn in ocean Side. Obviously he won the Barbie group day and so we had a really heartfelt conversation in Oceanside that obviously did not make aaron that wasn't shown, So I think that that obviously leaves viewers a little confused, But that conversation for me was really touching in a sense that we connected on a lot, and he also like recognized a lot and saw a lot, so I kind of do wish that was shown, but it wasn't, So I think that does leave viewers like a little confused. So that's kind of where our connection really did pick up. And the same with Tanner. I feel like, obviously a lot of these conversations aren't being shown and it's fine, but yeah, the same thing with Tanner's. Like Tanner was someone WHOID did obviously start off really slow, and we didn't have one on ones. We did have a lot of time, but the time that we did have, it was really like Tanner made sure to like truly connect and like he didn't waste time like talking about for liss things like he was really trying to get to know me, and I saw like or I felt his intention in that, and so that that was very different than what I felt like a lot of the other guys who I did had sent home or maybe like in this past week with you know, John b going home. It was one of those connections where I was like I probably already envisioned like him probably not being the one at the end I couldn't bath them like probably bringing him on a long even more to like hurt, so kind a little bit of that of just like the emotional goodbyes with Sean and Tanner two was just I didn't I felt bad about like hurting them because I knew, like this was not an ideal situation. Being on a too on one is not ideal in any circumstance, and so yeah, I did feel awful about that. But also yeah, at some point, to some degree, we did have a connection. It just wasn't It was nowhere nearly as strong as the ones that were gotch.

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Speaker 3: No, that's great insight. And it's funny because Joey when we had him on the podcast, I remember him saying that Tanner is like not one for small talk. He really is big on, like in depth conversations, and I was kind of waiting to see that with him. We just never really got a chance. So getting to hear like that there were these meaningful conversations had that we just weren't privy to see does kind of give a little bit of context to these really heartfelt goodbyes.

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Speaker 2: Right, And everyone's probably gonna be confused, but it's okay.

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Speaker 1: True He's he's a likable guy too. Something I want to ask because I felt this one when I was in Paradise and you're just curious when you were on the Barbie day Jojo and Jordan were there, seeing them like seeing them for I don't know if you met her before, but like seeing them together in that moment and then being part of the show, does it give you hope like this this could work.

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Speaker 2: It definitely did, And I think I've said that on the day. It's just like they are such an inspiration. Obviously I watched Jodo's season, so like that was my first time like actually meeting her like in person, and so like obviously to have her there and then to see Jordan with her, like their interactions, like they're just such a loving couple, and I realized, like obviously they're still together. So it does work. And I think for the guys like me, explaining that and talking about their relationship really did give me hope that you know, at the end of all of this, no matter how hard it is, it's gonna all be worth it.

00:21:25
Speaker 1: So yeah, nice because I felt that, like when we were in Paradise and Dean and Kaylen came down and I was, yeah, yeah.

00:21:33
Speaker 3: Well that's good because that was the exactly you proposed to me. So I'm glad they gave you some help on our proposal day.

00:21:39
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they came down. They came down, and then I proposed a few days later. But they were there for the people.

00:21:45
Speaker 3: You're right, Sorry, you're right, you're right. Little did I know Dean Calen pushed it.

00:21:52
Speaker 2: Over the edge proposal.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be like Dan Caylen. Okay, So let's talk a little bit about we've kind of I've Dotton's been my favorite from the beginning as far as like your connection with him, You've been You've been giving him some like extra time, it seems like or.

00:22:15
Speaker 3: At least like intentional private time.

00:22:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about that.

00:22:20
Speaker 3: And then he's got to back to back one on one dates. So what was kind of the motivation to give that second one and one to Dotton versus maybe someone like Aaron b who hasn't had a one on one in a while.

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Speaker 2: So with Dawton, obviously, I think we see him as someone who is extremely like, he has this emotional depth to him, and so our conversations, like, I mean, we saw it on our first one on one date. When I'm with him, there's a lot of like things that like we talk about and that I haven't necessarily shared with a lot of other people. So I think for me that like it's almost stimulating in a sense that it's like it leaves me like wanting or craving from war. And so following the bungee jumping date and then heading into New Orleans, that was a date that was like super early we did the Christient Classic City Run and so I that was early morning, and I was like, okay, like when I knew I was doing that date and I had to figure out, like who did I want to take on that date. I obviously did like go down the line of like who possibly I could take and what that would be like. But with Dawton, it was like, yeah, like why not, like let's continue our connection. Obviously it did rub a lot of the guys wrong, especially Aaron b because like that was a city that was like super relevant to him. But at that time, I obviously there's a lot going on and I just didn't like honestly even think of that. But yeah, with Dawton, it's just like there's there's something special and it was a special time that we had and we got to spend in New Orleans together. So yeah, I'm not regretful for giving him one on ones back to back.

00:24:02
Speaker 1: I yeah, I thank you as a viewer. Like, and why I like your connection with Dotton the most is you just seem the most comfortable. It just it just seems like you guys are, like we said it, like you were like watching you in your living room, Like you guys are just kind of chilling, and that makes sense. Yeah, I think you. I think you made the right choice. Then Okay, who else? Who else do we got here? Let's we have Joey. We'll touch on Joey. Okay, I want to talk about Xavier because Xab when you went on the one on one date with Xavier, and I felt the same way. This is kind of how I felt about the Warwick date. I felt like you were sending an Xavier home until he opened up at the conference. Is that is that right?

00:24:47
Speaker 2: That is correct?

00:24:50
Speaker 1: Job?

00:24:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in my head all day about that date in Washington. It's just like Xavier does have like he's such a contagious person, but like at times he has these like tactics that I don't know if he just has done in his past dating experience, but it's like for me, I'm also craving for a guy that can just give emotional depth to and have this emotional intelligence, and I like asking questions that are going to challenge you. And I feel like sometimes and we don't really always see it, but we see it a little bit. On you know, the day in Washington, he kind of deflects a little bit and he uses like flirtation.

00:25:27
Speaker 1: Like we're hitting on you. Like I was like quite hitting on you.

00:25:33
Speaker 2: As like like kind of avoid the conversation. And I picked up on that. So then that's kind of like where I'm referring to is like he reminds me of my ex because it's like I could never get past a certain point. So like that whole like narrative of like, oh can he be a boyfriend? Sure, but is he husband? Like I don't know if he can get there. But then obviously like he got extremely vulnerable at that dinner and so like hearing about his mom, hearing about like, you know, his pursuit in his career as to why like he feels like that's his purpose is Like that really did resonate a lot with me, and we talked a lot more about family and also like just what his goals are in life, and so yeah, that was honestly the saving grace for him, because otherwise I think he would have probably would have been.

00:26:13
Speaker 1: Out of the Yeah, it makes sense.

00:26:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've liked seeing your guys' connection grow because one hundred percent that first one and one is really when we first got to see you guys together, and Joe was like, this guy is on the date actually, like he's trying to pick her up to go on a date, Like you already have the date yet She's like, you're on the date, buddy, like you are currently on the date with the girls. Stop hitting on her. It was fun and flirty and cute. I think we as yours were also waiting for him to kind of get deep and open up, and obviously we saw his story in his intro package for the show, but we weren't able to have that conversation for the two of you yet. And then the night portion, I feel like we as viewers saw you kind of relax and be like okay, like there's a deeper connection here Toyork.

00:26:57
Speaker 2: With for sure, for sure.

00:27:05
Speaker 1: And then this week we see exac I like exager, we see him drop another bomb where he's just like, yeah, you know, I just I don't know if I'm ready for just.

00:27:12
Speaker 2: That's the thing again, that was the struggle. It's just like it's this constant like one week we're here and then one week, you know, we're feeling different, and so it's like this constant like just shift And that was a lot for me. So yeah, we'll see how things like obviously play out, but it was a lot.

00:27:31
Speaker 3: Not not to be like ageist right now, but how old is he.

00:27:35
Speaker 2: He is twenty seven, he's the same ages.

00:27:38
Speaker 1: Okay, well, what was his saving grace though in this week's episode, because after he did say that, I was like, you were you you were like, oh, that's that's not good.

00:27:50
Speaker 2: I think the saving grace again was just like the fat and and this is like maybe like sad to say, but I think it's like the fact that he was willing to like continue to try and willing to see. I can't fault him for like not knowing right now that oh on one hundred percent set on an engagement. I know I can because truly that's probably a little bit unrealistic. But the fact that I think he was just like still open to it and he didn't completely close off. That's why I was like, Okay, let's you know, let's give this thing a shot. And obviously where I was at and where my numbers fell with who I had left, like Sewan and Tanner, our connection, like I just did not feel comfortable going to meet their families and not having that that time or that connection where it should be. So Xavier was further, much further along. I obviously still could have sent him home, but I wanted to kind of just see if we could get there.

00:28:39
Speaker 3: I don't think that's sad to say at all. I think that totally makes sense. Like we felt that his fear was kind of relatable in a way of like, oh my god, like one person for the rest of my life can be scary for people. But he definitely saved himself from that comment of like, but I'm still I still want that in my life, right, Like, it wasn't like he was like I'm scared and like I don't know if I'm ready for that or if I even want that, but let's.

00:29:02
Speaker 2: Keep dating, right, were right? Yeah, No, he definitely he saved himself so good.

00:29:08
Speaker 3: He also just looked really tired.

00:29:09
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe he's just always looks tired, like I'm watching his it back and I'm like, Xavier, open your eyes.

00:29:16
Speaker 3: I was trailing off after time he doesn't interview, Like it must be like two in the morning.

00:29:22
Speaker 2: He looks so tired, and I'm on a day with a beautiful girl, but we chan't see your eyes.

00:29:26
Speaker 3: That's okay. So last person in your top four that chat about is Joey.

00:29:36
Speaker 1: And I would say, besides the no eye contact night one, like, it seems like it's very smooth and is that how it is?

00:29:46
Speaker 2: Yes, me and Joey's connection continuously grows at a just very like consistent and good rate. It's not too quickly and it's not like we're trailing behind. And I feel like for me and him, like obviously this was like another turning point in our relationship this week in New Orleans where we have a very important conversation surrounding like interracial dating and just like meeting his family. I think me not realizing maybe ahead of time as open as Joey was, I think for me like that was like something that I really like, like it just continued to captivate me. And so, yeah, Joey is someone who's just super special. He has just a pure heart and I feel like I'm I get the full Joey every time I'm with him. But he's also just had a calming presence, so like for me, like that's really what I need as a lead in the show, but like in real life, like he's just a rock.

00:30:46
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:30:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting you say you feel like you got the full Joey the entire time, because then we see in the promo for next week for Hometowns, I believe it's his dad that is saying, are you getting the full Joey? Can you kind of tease going to next week what we're to get from Joey's family and all the other guys' families.

00:31:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, for the most part, hometowns do you go pretty smoothly, but you know, it's not truly a hometown episode without some some families asking hard hitting questions, and so we do see in the preview with Joey's family, his uncle Uncle Joe mentioned that he questions to me, do I feel like I'm getting the fool Joey or do I feel like I'm seeing the full Joey? And for me, that was extremely scary to hear or to have that like brought up to me, because like I just said, I feel like I get the whole Joey every time that I'm in and so yeah, that that definitely left me feeling a little uneasy. I'm not gonna lie, and so that potentially could be a problem for us later down the road. But yeah, and I think even with like Xavier's family, like we have a lot of conversations revolving the readiness of the guys and just kind of seeing what their families have to say about that, which might be a different take on what some of the guys have expressed to me. So it's very interesting. So we'll see how how next week plays out, but it'll be a good one.

00:32:14
Speaker 3: That is such a scary question to me, joey'sdad asking do you feel like you're getting the whole Joey, because that was my deepest fear on the show the whole time. Yeah, you can't know. You just have to trust that they're showing you everything, but you don't know what you don't know, so you can't be like, no i am or I'm not. Like it's that's your best guess.

00:32:33
Speaker 1: And that's yeah, what I said I'm Joey. I'm like, hey, uncle, go fuck yourself. Why do you ask that kind of question right now?

00:32:40
Speaker 3: Right?

00:32:40
Speaker 2: And I'm sure it left him like probably feeling, you know, a certain type of way, and he probably was like, that's not a question that should be brought up. But you know, I'm not mad at it. Obviously. I appreciate the challenging questions because it allows me to kind of now, like get not now I'm always in la la land, but it kind of allows me like, ship here's a little bit and be like, all right, let's be like realistic as much possible here.

00:33:01
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:33:01
Speaker 1: Also, no offense to Joey's uncle, I'm just joking.

00:33:04
Speaker 3: Wait, speaking of families, how has your family and friends been watching the season back? How did they feel when you became the bachelorrette all the way up until now? Has it been like nothing but love, support, hesitation.

00:33:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has been nothing but love and support. You know, as we've seen, my family's just tremendous and they're just the greatest. So obviously my brother is having the best time. He is like I'm ready to see really like how all this really turns out? But yeah, my mom and dad are doing gray my other stiling they're just everyone's just back home watching it and tuning in every week. But my friends, I think they're also like just now becoming super Bachelor fans, which is so funny because a lot of them didn't really watch the show before, so now they're just like all really into it and just being being good friends.

00:33:51
Speaker 3: That's so fun. As my friends have said many times, the show will never be more exciting than when you know someone someone on it.

00:33:58
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, what two questions real quick? What was the best thing you ate in New Orleans?

00:34:05
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so me? And yes, oh my god, those oysters are like so good I would eat like two does. It's like I'm in saying so.

00:34:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's They're They're incredible. And then quick question before because I know you have something too. Out of the last four guys, the four hometown guys, were there any of those guys that were up for potentially not getting a rose night one?

00:34:30
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good question, Like, was there anyone that she was about to send home? Like wide based off first impression that now is here?

00:34:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting, not really, but if anything, I'd have to say it would be maybe not just because we didn't get time, but like again, like I was like his limo entrance still captivated me and down to where I was like, we clearly have something here even if we didn't have a full conversation to sit down. So like, I mean that was that's the best way. I can't answer that, but like I feel like the top four I definitely like hit it out the part from the question from night one to where we're at now, Yeah.

00:35:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well we had him on the podcast. He was like, I didn't get to talk to her night once. So he's like, and I was one of the last roses, so I really didn't know what was going to happen. I was like, don you're pretty good looking and quite tall, Like I feel like you're gonna be okay. I do want to ask you on the topic of you know, your friends and family. You've seen a lot of love and support. I feel like people are loving you as bachelor at but you did wake up this morning and choose violence and we cannot not chat about it. So you put on threads I did, which I can't believe we're talking threads now, Like, oh my god, rip Twitter and on your Instagram store. I'm going to read it for people. Charity said, maybe it's time we stop getting dating advice from unqualified TV personalities who like bashing women for the sake of us. And then the little hands up emoji, which is my favorite emojidus personally, do you want to comment on that at all or expand or tell us where that's.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: And I will say start off with the disclaimer. I have only listened to like two, not even fully all the way through. I don't even want to give him that much credit, but two of Nick Vile's podcasts and just some of his takes on my season. It's just very interesting because I feel like it is extremely harsh at times, and not that like opinions really matter, but it's like to the point where it's like it's so vastly different than clearly what the rest of America is seeing, and it's like you, I don't know if you have something against me, I don't know, you've never met you. But like just some of the like burbige that he uses, like I have extremely like ridiculous pick me energy. I'm a recovering pick me saying I like pretty guys. That's why I would never end up with like certain casts like some of the contestants. I was like, this is like also just respectful to them. It's just it's a reach. It's a reach, and we know why he's doing it because obviously it's click bait and it gets people like listening. But he can find someone else to do that one because it's not welcome over here. So so sorry, Nick, Well, we.

00:37:08
Speaker 3: Love some clap back energy from our botch Wrette. Will we be seeing this at the Mental Hell coming up because we are going to be visiting with all the men again, which Jo and I are very excited to watch.

00:37:18
Speaker 2: Absolutely we will. So everyone on the stage.

00:37:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually I'm looking forward to seeing, uh, seeing you on the Mental Hall. Who are you nervous to see? Is there anyone you're nervous to see? And you can't obviously can't spoil anything either.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: By 're right, I'm not nervous to see anyone. What type of energy will they come in with? Obviously we know, like I feel like the obvious Braidon's going to come in, and whether or not he will come in with this erratic energy or not, I don't know. But I will always meet people with grace. But I think it's important that you know, I hope he takes accountability for like some of like his behaviors and you know, some of the things that we were seeing in comparison with how he taught to me and then what he shared with the guys, not bashing him in any sense of like the stuff he talked about was being realistic, but just some of those behaviors that were at times I think manipulative, especially when he came back to apologize, like that apology was not even for me, it was for himself. So we'll see how everything plays out, but if anything, I feel like he's going to be just a topic of discussion. So yeah, yeah, well he definitely will.

00:38:26
Speaker 3: I feel like that if he had just left when you guys want your separate ways, it might have been a little different. I think him coming back to basically accept your apology that you weren't giving to him, yeah, kind of shot him in the foot, and I feel like that is going to make it such a hot topic, and that is probably the conversation I'm most excited to hear, just because I feel like there's a lot to be said between the two of you, especially after being able to watch it back.

00:38:54
Speaker 2: And absolutely as Ims, absolutely there will be a lot that will be shared, so yeah, can't right?

00:39:01
Speaker 1: Do you want to you want to play a game with us?

00:39:03
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I love games.

00:39:04
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Rabid Fire, you want to read them off? Sure, rabbit Fire, Charity. First thing that comes your head boom?

00:39:10
Speaker 2: All right?

00:39:11
Speaker 3: Are you ready?

00:39:12
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, okay.

00:39:14
Speaker 3: What is the first thing you do when you wake up in the morning.

00:39:17
Speaker 2: I do three gratitude. Well, I hit snooze first, but then I do my three gratitude so I find the things I'm thankful for.

00:39:24
Speaker 3: The people on your season are so healthy. I wake up, I see file or three times and that I scroll on my phone for about twenty minutes. Honestly, I need to.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: I need to treat it. I do not afterwards, but like I have to, Like I programmed my I was like, let's get out, let's say my gratitude. Then then we'll get out of bed.

00:39:41
Speaker 3: So that's amazing. I need some new habits. How how do you like your pizza?

00:39:47
Speaker 2: I'm pretty classic, so cheese and pepperoni like nice? Yeah, nice.

00:39:52
Speaker 1: Every majority of guys in your season all said pineapple.

00:39:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh god, yeah. Everyone we've had except I think Dowton has said pineapple plus like mushrooms or pineapple and ham.

00:40:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes me scared. You should be scared.

00:40:07
Speaker 3: You got okay it is Yeah, it's a West Coast thing.

00:40:14
Speaker 2: They're gone.

00:40:17
Speaker 3: The best dating advice you ever received, best.

00:40:20
Speaker 2: Dating advice to love yourself first before you can love anyone else. Become secure, know yourself in and out, so that that way when you're getting to know someone else as well, like it's just easier.

00:40:32
Speaker 3: What is your go to cocktail?

00:40:36
Speaker 2: I'm a friend Sony fab really like champagne is like my go to, but I love let's add a little shot of tequila or vokan there origin I like switch it up so dom so yeah, I love that.

00:40:47
Speaker 1: That's I hate champagne. Is that weird?

00:40:51
Speaker 2: What do you guys gonna do on your wedding day?

00:40:52
Speaker 3: I like champagne. I think we're just gonna do Joe's gonna have an old fashion everyone else will champagne.

00:40:58
Speaker 1: Toast I mean out, you know, like I'll toast and I'll have a sip. I hates a strong word.

00:41:04
Speaker 3: I just like, I like given to. You'll drink it, but you will never.

00:41:08
Speaker 1: Ever order you know what. I think it's because it gives me a headache. Yeah that's fair. This is also not a not about me. So I literally yelled and said rapid fire and I haven't shut up.

00:41:20
Speaker 3: So okay, who is one person living or not that you would like to have dinner with?

00:41:30
Speaker 2: Does my celebrity crush count?

00:41:32
Speaker 1: Of course?

00:41:33
Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan. That's a good one.

00:41:37
Speaker 3: What is one word or phrase that your friends used to describe you?

00:41:41
Speaker 2: M compassionate?

00:41:46
Speaker 3: Do you have any bad habits?

00:41:50
Speaker 2: Bad habit? I don't know if this is a habit, but I don't drink enough water so that I yeah, I gotta get I gotta get right.

00:41:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there you go. So first three gratitudes in the morning. Second chucks, What is your go to karaoke song?

00:42:11
Speaker 2: Anything by Whitney Houston? So like dance with somebody, I Will always love you. That's like really when the vocals come out.

00:42:20
Speaker 1: So you're getting up there singing I will.

00:42:24
Speaker 2: That's after a few glass I gotta really be bored and then I'll just let it loose.

00:42:29
Speaker 3: But yeah, what is the current screensaver photo on your phone?

00:42:35
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, all right, shout out to Crawford. This one is like my little canvas bag with my face on it, so like he let me obviously take a picture with him, which I don't know if he's ever done with anyone, So no, I don't think he has.

00:42:54
Speaker 3: That's so cute icon for people listening. Bradford is one of the producers on the show, and every season he takes photos holding these two plastic bags like they're so like old. He's been using them for forever and Charity got a bag photo with Bradford, which is iconic. If you could visit anywhere in the world, where would you go?

00:43:18
Speaker 2: I feel like my answer hasn't changed because I still haven't been yet, but Greece. I really want to go to Santorini, and I need to go quickly seately next summer. We'll try and get that on my list.

00:43:28
Speaker 1: That would be amazing, No, I think, I think, well, I mean, we don't know if you're engaged, but if I have.

00:43:33
Speaker 3: A pretty romantic maybe maybe a Sancherini wedding, who knows.

00:43:37
Speaker 2: Maybe listen, that would be amazing.

00:43:40
Speaker 3: And then the last question is what is your favorite outfit of the season. You have had such amazing fashion. You're also so petite, so I can imagine like they're doing a lot of alterations on your clothes as like another petique girl, but like love it. You and Carrie probably had so much fun.

00:43:56
Speaker 2: Me and Carrier are like the dream team truly. I will have to say, I'll do you like favorite output in the favorite Rose ceremony. So my favorite Rose ceremony dress is the Hometown one. So we see it in the previews at the black one with the little like kind of bow on the side and like the high split, best look ever. And then obviously the red pants. I think that was just like something we haven't really seen a lot. And the hair, the makeup, it was, the whole look was a ten out of ten. And you're my two favorite, so good do you get to keep those? Some of them? I told you I specifically wanted that black dress of me.

00:44:35
Speaker 3: I guess, like, where are you gonna wear twelve?

00:44:38
Speaker 2: I don't know exact I don't think I need and I definitely don't have the space for twelve gowns in my closet, but yeah, the ones that I really fell in love with, obviously, I was like, can I please have?

00:44:47
Speaker 3: So? Yeah?

00:44:48
Speaker 1: Nice? Okay, Well one last question? All right, keep going, I mean keep going. Sorry, she's got to catch a flight. She's got to go to Miami.

00:44:56
Speaker 3: Last question, so we just annailed the Golden Baucher. We it wasn't nuts. The franchise now is the Golden Bachelor Gary. Do you have you met Gary? What are your thoughts on it? Do you have any advice for him?

00:45:10
Speaker 2: I have not met Geary, but I could imagine that I will be meeting Gary very soon. I hope at least. Gary is truly the most precious thing I've ever seen. And so I saw his good Morning Leerica interview. I mean, his backstory is incredible. I just love, like the whole idea of this show and the spin off. It's like, obviously we don't really see this in reality TV. Just like this population of people getting a shot at love again, and so I'm really excited for it. I'm excited for Geary. I hope he finds his person. I don't really know the format. I'm assuming it's the same way, but I don't know what the format is going to be. But any advice for Geary. I'm sure he doesn't need any. He's lived a lot and he has probably so much experience. But for me, what helped me the most was just being present and try to be present in every day and not look too far ahead. I think that can sometimes consume you, gets you like, you know, caught up in it makes you anxious. So just like taking it day by day and really just going with what you feel is best. No one else knows, only you do. So yeah, that's what I can get to Geary.

00:46:16
Speaker 1: Great advice, great advice. Enjoy, enjoy, have fun in Miami. Stop giving people your address. Thank you so much for being here, and thank you to our listeners for always tuning in.

00:46:27
Speaker 3: And don't forget New episodes of The Bocht air every Monday at eight seven Central on ABC and then stream the next day on Hulu.

00:46:34
Speaker 1: Yes, and make sure to tune in to new episode to Badger Happy Hour every week. We're going to have some great guests on. We've got all kinds of exclusive interviews coming up, so don't forget to hit that subscribe button.

00:46:45
Speaker 3: Thanks again, everyone, Charity, thanks for being here and we will see you next time.

00:46:50
Speaker 2: Bye bye, y'all. Thank you,