Revisiting WCW Nitro 1997, Real Backstage Fight Off Air, Great American Bash Go Home, Lex Luger vs Hogan

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On the road the WCW Great American Bash! The main event features Scott Hall and Kevin Nash vs Rowdy Roddy Piper and Ric Flair! Before going into this match there was supposed confusion on what was going to happen! This led to a huge fight backstage after the show was off air. Both Kevin Nash and Roddy Piper were allegedly upset which led to a big brawl. Depending on who tells the story, the outcome was different. Also, WCW was winning the Monday Night War and this show tells us why. Tons of great matches including, a lucha libre rules tag match, Hollywood Hogan vs Lex Luger, and even Akira Hokuto wrestlers. They were on fire. Plus, in the main event The Outsiders vs Piper and Flair that leads to a huge brawl with the entire locker room fighting it out. It’s anarchy….and that it’s we’re all out of time!

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Damn boys are bad. Welcome to the Deadlock Podcast today. You can't cut
me off right now? All right? John cut up? Sorry at anyway,
So I'm saying, come on, all right, deadlinp Podcast, Episode
two hundred and thirty one. We're back again the first time. Dentist everybody
and the fuck up cut him off your foot. So you're finally back,
all three of us after a few weeks. I'm happy to be here.
Pause for us. Yeah, for real, man do it again. The
boys win always. And we were talking about an actual fucking good episode of
Nitro today, which is exciting. W c W Nitro June nine, nineteen
ninety seven. Wow, Tony, he hasn't been here for a couple of
weeks, so he missed the part where we say our names now at the
top. So this Isay Douglas over here. Hi, May Douglas. I'm
one of the hosts of the show. Johnny is all Blood hosts. I'm
John Blood. I'm also one of the hosts, and this is James of
the show. I'm very I'm very happy to be here, and I'm very
happy they were all together once again to talk about this, that and everything
in between. So like I mentioned we are watching Nitro from ninety seven.
Ninety seven still historically good year for w C W Verry. Good good episode,
very good episode. Yeah man, and they were they were kicking and
rocking and like, this is pretty much everything you would expect from Nitro,
especially when they were at their their biggest and best. You get your loot
of stuff, you get a nice title mid card match, you have the
main event with all the stars, and you get a big talk and brawl
all the stars. But before we get into that, we have deadlock updates
of course we have on our Patreon. We have watched this, A new
one has gone up. It is a none other the Super Crazy and Jim
Duggan versus the Highlanders, whoa no dope? Don't Gary always here? Yeah?
The Highlanders are on the run of a lifetime. I really I wanted
to watch the match because I don't think James especially puts enough respect on the
Highlanders and I wanted to show him that he was wrong. And uh,
and you can go watch it on the Patreon right now five dollars to find
out if who James is right? The whole time, I think really nice
guy people. Everyone really likes t and a and I respect that. We
also like to but yeah, you can go over to the Patreon and watch
that and watch this. I'm pretty sure no one's seen it ever, so
I was sure a lot of people will enjoy it, enjoy their time on
that. That was on a heat. So we also have SGH over on
our Patreon, which this month was the Royal Rumble two thousand. I'm going
to have and uh, it is up on the Patreon right now. I
believe it is. If it's not I fucked up somewhere. Yeah, it's
up right now. And we were joined by special guests. Chris Denker joined
us for that one for he was a surprise Rumble entrant for SGH this month.
And yeah, crazy, crazy show, crazier than I remember with uh,
just a wow, what a doug shit that was. There was a
really cool Taka mission Oki spot you. If you blink, you'll miss it.
Have you ever seen it? You'll see it. If it is exciting,
I'm speaking of exciting. Deadlock Pro Wrestling is going to Pasadena, Texas
on February eighteenth. Tickets are flying, front row is sold out. I
would definitely go get those tickets. We have two matches and out so far.
One of them national title match signed months in the making. Brian Keith
defends against Jake Something. Jake Something's been on one hell of a run,
so as Brian Keith, and they will meet head to head in Passing,
Texas, of course Texas. Brian Keith homefield advanage for the champ And then
we announced a new match here recently, a tag team match, one that
was requested by one Chris Danger because he has a death wish. He wants
to die, he really wants to go. It is Chris Danger and his
partner for the evening. It's gonna be I can't say the first name,
Breeze. It's pretty. You can say that, yeah, Prince Pretty Breeze.
And they're facing off against the workhorsemen who dropped the titles here about a
month back, two months once the show happened. Second anniversary, and uh,
they're probably not too happy, and they're probably not too happy that they
were called out on a show they weren't at by a guy that they have
quite a bit of history with. The guy, Chris, the guy you
can probably blame for why they weren't the first w tag team champions. Yeah,
you're right, yeah, yeah, and they kidnapped him once. Yeah,
they they did. They took his pants. It was crazy and uh,
Chris is yeah, I mean they never really ended up getting their hands
on him though. It was you know, Violence is forever was the one
that dumped Chris on his head in the end. But Chris hit them a
bunch of times, and so this will be their first time getting getting to
throw some shots at Chris Danger. And I'm very excited. Texas. You
better come on out here, because that's all it's our only time coming to
Texas this year. All right, let's be honest about it. It's only
time coming to Texas this year. If you're anywhere in the area driving distance,
or if you want to just fly out there, you want to come
see DEPW in Texas because it is gonna be Hanger Anders. He knows bankers.
So head on over to DPW t i X dot com get your tickets
today. Of course, we had two shows go out from January from the
Double Shot weekend DPW Live four, which saw the main event of Calvin Tegman
and Andrew Everett, and then of course we had a steel cage match on
DPW. You already are now available in four K on DPW on demand dot
com watch DPW dot com super in d dot TV. Either way, you
always spell it. We got it all. You want it, you need
to see it, get in on it. And Johnny is an idiot and
the Deaddies are next. I've miscalculated the uh the process and I I forgot.
You're wrong. You don't to get math. I forgot. There's another
part in between this where they actually have to vote on the things, and
that could have just made up results, but we want your opinion on so
you got to get your votes in, so hopefully by now, if not
today, the voting has begun for the Deddies, So get your votes in
so then we can talk about it on the next episode. Please thank you.
All Right now it's time for the Patreon shoutouts segment. These by the
way, just thinking out no robo JR. While I was gone, tried
it now it was Tony two weeks in a row. Oh wow, how'd
you feel everything go? Okay? Tony, dude, I had like three
hundred names one week. I made it all right? Well. Starting in
the one dogs, here we have Miguel Carroliger two five four is Pam don't
worry about what that means. Ryan three, Walter Arthurne Crosby, Saya Nara
LG. My favorite Steiner is either Rick or Franken or maybe Scott Brother Philip
egg Rick Flair, you old bastard p Maybe maybe not brother maybe or maybe
not dude, Tony akue fin to here. Let me get an Italian b
M t on hearty Italian with lettuce, tomato onions. Where are in Chipotle?
Southwest? Semitch the long w E M T Let me get one of
those sandwiches tomato, any sandwich on the screen, any sandwiches you want from
here? Sir, this is a podcast. Jake j Lord Lemons, James
Thompson, Kenno, Andy Woods, Nathan Walshott's val Venus gooning in the smack
Down locker room, Tacos every Day, best four inches of her life or
maybe not, dude, definitely not. From Jordan Penton, Daniel Rayes,
Obed Rodriguez, Epic fifty fifty seven based ten Dog Tier, Sean Williams,
Cameron Ray Micah Abola The Core themed Version seventy four, Andrea Mister Jelly Dog,
I smoke some fittingag. James sold me now I think I'm Blacks.
Please tell me I'm Riley Hagen, Zachary Strickland, Panther's Rule ninety five,
the records otherwise, Devin hes vand o' Keith ken Bandita hit by our Bronco
buster from Dick, Oh Wow, I felt good, Nick Wadick, That
damn Panda, Liam Reynolds, the heart Throbs should have been in Hate Club,
True King, British Guy, Eel Rayes, Gooboo, David Hendricks,
User Kids, Saturn, Ernest Moran, Aaron Connor, Macmillan, Catch the
Badger, Frank Segura, Steve Sniffs versus Dick Marcinko and a contenental classic schmiet
On, Johnny's pol Match. Okay, it's Dick the Cock, Jackson's German
cousin, Bett der Swan's Johann fucking crazy Brett Ever. Hey, Dan,
it's me your best friend, Mike Christopher, James McBriar, Chase Richardson,
Macduck, Michael Chase, Sick, Nasty PhD, I got Beanie Houdini,
frand Oh Way standing next to me. It's all about the power. That's
class again. It would be twelve, you know that twelve or thirty Someone
Music, twelve Doctor Dickonomics with the cream build Glizzie wearing the purple scot Steamer
suit with the hat cock to the side, spat all over my fucking scream
zen at the peep dipping Kana, and I won't be denied. All I
got left is my pride and I will rise sorry than you that got giving.
I met Johnson, a big ol' smooch on the lips. Ah take
the dog the hell reverse Bronco Busters style. It's crazy the awesome in my
backyard. That winked at me. Okay, I don't know my flowers,
but I know a bitch when I see one. Jake Coleman, Blaine Moseley,
Limp biscuits and gravy Nice, George Cunningham, Uh, Miss Mackenzie,
James Farmsworth, Black Saber Junior Pep Logan Birch Titties. Next time on DPW
Loser Lives with fifteen dollars. Dear Andrew McKay, Steven Andrew gibbson Heavyweight Hustle
on Top is Base. Need that BoJack rematch in twenty twenty four. M
Interesting Brennan rock Costcott. Yeah, can I get a dude's in a little
bit of that cock of Judson through twelve dollars annual, Christopher mend Old annual,
one hundred and twenty dollars annual, Robert Scott, Colt Daniel, and
still the Patreon shamby of the world at fifty dollars. No, uh,
it's my birthday. So here I am Steve face position and chapstick on.
Y'all know what to do? Wama. We ran a stink face train on
him last week. James, So you're the missing part here. You're the
last guy. What you want me to do about that? I want you
to fucking fray. Thank you, thank you. I appreciate all you guys.
Thank you guys. Forty fucking two hundred patres. Forty patriots. It
is forty four two hundred plus patrons right now, the best Patreon in the
game. Oh yeah, and by the way, shout up to Tanner for
sending us a care package from the Texas Chainsaw Master game. In the box,
we got a bunch of different stuff, including this chicken that you press
it it makes noises. Please do one more time? Yes, dude,
Yeah, that was fucking insane to fucking James we get to James house and
he's like, oh, yeah, this is for us. I said,
I think I legit walked in. I said it's a box. I look
at this box and I said chicken, And you said yes, And that
was not the answer I was expecting. Yeah, No, it's a it's
a chickens from the game that make the noises when you walk by them.
Yeah. If you guys have played the textas Chainsaw Masacre game, which is
pretty cool. And then there's uh, we also got like dry rub from
cook if you guys have seen the movie, they make chili at the gas
stations, which is yeah, which is fucking pins. There's uh, there's
a poster that like the whole team signed and somebody wrote d p W for
life on it. It might have been Tanner. That's awesome. That's to
Tony. Tony's wearing the shirt that they signed with it sure right now,
it's got the logo on the on the sleeve and on the back. I
think he's got He shouts out, yeah, man, for real, we
played that game a lot. We did. We probably are gonna jump back
in here soon now because that was so nice. All right, now it's
time for the Deadlock Q and a segment. Of course. People submit these
questions on our Patreon. Yes, and we have a few here that we
will answer here on this street that is correct on the stream. Wow,
that's awesome, we're live. Sorry about that. I forgot where I'm at.
Yes, here and above you can ask us any question you want,
like this question right here from take Soup. This is a very serious question
here. Actually, you guys have joked about all this from He's wanting to
know. He used to shout to ask him first, and he said,
you guys have jokes about a lot, but have there been any serious discussions
about retiring Deathlock. I love you boys. Want to wrapping this up?
Fine? Or the show over. I couldn't legit. I don't know what
I would do with my time and I didn't have this Yeah me need I
uh, I look at it less so like like, especially when it comes
to the podcast and things to do in that nature, especially as we get
older and we all have shit going on and things to do. Yeah,
I just look at this time with my buddies and that's why I like it
a lot, you know, like it's dedicated time I get to hang out
with my two best friends. Absolutely, dude, So we were talking about
that. Actually, I don't know if it was last week or the week
before, Tony, but like, yeah, this this does not feel like
like I I can see why. I can I totally understand why podcasts do
end, because yeah, of course it's not always easy, but the easy
part is like I'm watching fucking wrestling, which I love wrestling, and I'm
hanging out with my fucking boys and we get to laugh for a couple hours
and then I tell the other people listen and then they say, well that
was cool hopefully yeah. Well yeah, yeah, no no, there's uh
no discussions of retiring. That's off the record, No on the record.
Episode three hundreds the last one. So we're wrapping it up. Yeah,
it's gotta go, it's gotta go, So we gotta so to catch this.
Sorry, three hundred is is done. There you go come back to
DPW man, Well, speaking of that James user name, tell Johnny to
oil up. I've been I'll be there in ten minutes. I don't know
why I've read the name. Do you and AW have a secret deal going
on? Because I see some of your DPW guys on a w n R
o h do we Yes, we do. Yes, the deal is record
we run, we run shows, and then Tony Connor. That's the deal.
The deal is that everybody on our show has to go to that shows.
We also have a secret deal with w w E where we build guys
up to be like top ind guys and then they take them forever. Yeah.
Click. We also the deal with TNA where they run the same day.
You know another I think about it, These deals aren't really that great
for us. Why do we make these deals. We're not a great deal
makers. We're just good. We're just good bookers. Yeah. So the
answer is yes, we have many secret deals going on that you'll never know
about. Yeah, off the record, of course. Hitting it from the
back or a Gami style. Asks. When you first started DPW you said
you want to be a super indie. After a few years, how does
it feel to be a super indy? Oh, it feels good, it
feels awesome. Actually, yeah, Man's it's funny because it's a super indie
by sheer force of will. It's uh a super indie because everyone on our
show is really really good. Yes, it's you consider super inty. Everybody
is a talented on her show. Yeah, Like I don't know, I
guess I feel like the definition of super India has changed a lot because it
used to me and you just book all the top names. But we're like
doing it out here, you know what I mean, Like yeah, yeah,
yeah, if we're a super Indie, we're the best super Indie.
That's just solid is. I would go to super Indie dot TV anyway you
want to spell it. I watch that. I'm not I don't know what's
over there, but whatever it is, I bet it's awesome. I want
a super Indye deepw shirt. We can do that. We got that,
so it feels it feels great. Uh, and we're very happy with it,
and we're happy with the success of Yeah, it couldn't be any happier
in that sense. Every show gets better. I think our booking gets better
every show. The fucking guys that were keeping on our core roster fucking want
to be there, the guys and girls, and they fucking want to kill.
We put a lot of trust with a lot of people, you know,
and like that's really important, Like you can run like whatever you want.
You can have guys girls who whatever case may be, whoever you want
on the show, but until you were able to build a trust and like
that they know that, like the things that they're doing isn't like bullshit or
but I felt we built off a pretty good resume with a lot of people,
a lot of really good talent, and like I think that right now
is probably it's crazy because we say it every show and obviously we're the pro
Motors and I'm always gonna say it, but it's true that every show is
our best show. Yeah, man, it's it's it's only getting better.
So you should come out in fucking February and in March and April and all
those shows and never for the fucking forever guy, damn it. And uh,
you should force the twenty three hundred arena to take our booking. Thank
you use your name. King of Frostbite asked, Hey, how's going.
I was wondering, that's it's a two part question, How's going? And
I was wondering the origin of a running joke you guys used to do years
ago. You would moan and then start singing, why why is he by
Russian? Why? What is the origin of that? Chang rest per dude
res This came up recently, like not on pod, like we were gonna
do this again, but I forget why. Oh it was mister fuck You's
entrance. Oh yeah, mister if you around, If you gotta see mister
you around, by the way, you should cherish those moments. He's he's
it's very rare for mister Yea. A lot of people don't see him like
that. Mister you and Skeletor are like two of the biggest and baddest motherfuckers
in the world. Some people say that's like the new genera sure of them
leaked recently. I don't know who leaked it, Joe, what you know,
mister icy is hard to change. That's ship. Yeah, to follow
Ralph large jagular this, Yeah, I mean it was, it was.
It was fucking gnarly man, yea. So please, mister and Skeletory,
you gotta enjoy those moments while you can the few and far between. The
origin of the joke was I think we just I think it was just us
saying ship and we thought it was funny, and that was it. It
was like, no, no, there was on all right, because I
mean I know the option wasn't the button three from the Meat Up options Option
three at the meat up. But what I bet people want to know what
that is nowadays? This is so far removed from that. Explain explain that,
and then I'll kind of explain the song thing. Yeah okay, so
yeah, Tony, you can explain it. Well, we just uh,
actually not my idea. By the way, I said, don't do that.
I remember saying that to James, do not do that. We had
so the deadlock meet up, we were doing a Serpentico light detector tap.
We're gonna do the light detect testing. James wanted an option, see,
which wasn't a yes and uh no option. It was no, I think,
and then the options see what how did that one go? So it
was either going to be or for an uncomfortable amount of time. This is
super long one. By the way, first meet up we're ever gonna do
with people in Chicago, and we were all sitting there and it was going
real smooth, and I think James on has just looked at you. I
said, I can't do that, or something like that. Want people to
know that the button was there, There was created, We created the button.
It was there, but I don't know what happened James, Just like
I can't do that I ly remember sitting there at one and I think it
was the It might have been the last question or the second to last question,
because we had it playing. I asked me to go something and I
look over and I make eye contact with James, and I knew it was
coming. And then like I think, we both just like gave each other
a little look and it was over. It was. It didn't happen,
but there was definitely dude that would have bombed so hard. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's funny. It's funnier because it didn't happen. Yeah, it
would have been. It would have been like I don't know, I people
would have laughed or they thought it was weird. I don't know. It
would have thought it was fucking insane because it would have happened, and then
the only people laughing would have been awesome fucking died laughing would have busted out
laughing, and nobody else in the let if it makes it really better.
We went back to the Airbnb and we played that button like a thousands laughed
the whole way through. That's that's with the It was gonna be an entry,
somebody's entrance or something. It was gonna be someone's entering, because the
idea of Y y Z being like a song that has such a long beginning
waiting for them to come out, and and this happens during a running so
like someone did be someone's got to beat down and why wise he's playing.
But the guy doesn't want to run out because his hold on a second,
got hold one second, give me, give me libs that would have been
so fucking legendary, would have killed deadlock altogether. I don't know what happened.
Yeah, really, Uh. We have a question here from Joshua Wilson.
But but this week I'm dressed as the Purple Warrior asks for Tony,
how did you get your schlong so long? Any tips for beginners? No?
Just born that way, dude, Okay, James, because I was
gonna ask, I thought he had choking tips and I was about together.
Oh yes that is James did it, but not me. And it's so
small as that. Just quit all of it. I'm joking in reverse.
I've been junking my boss. They're huge, They're like super funned up.
Now doubts on them. I just started working on him. I didn't do
anything else balls maxing. Hell, do you have MAXI amount of protein.
I think that might be what's missing neat a pound hamburger when I would up
that was you try mixing it a couple of things. I think you could
add some hamburger. It works. I was joking, my balls, it's
still as funny as it was. Hold up it up pretty well? Yeah?
Wow. Last question here from fat ride B asks if you could get
a deep too be game made, which wrestling engine would you choose? Which
is a tough one? Did we say here comes the pain? Isn't that
what we see? I? I would go with the day I reckoning?
Okay, So I don't know if we have talked about this, because the
easiest would be no mercy stopping the cat. Would impact say that I thought
you were making fun of it? No? Man, Look, okay,
if every time about we have to pick an engine and it never gets any
better, ever, it is exactly how it was and there's no improving on
it. Whats if we just like if we stole it? This is what
the questions? Yeah, great question. Yeah, I'd probably go with Adobe
two K seventeen, not even eighteen. Bro, we can't talk about that.
Goddamn seth on it, right, I don't know. Sorry, I
don't know what talked about two K fourteen. There you go, there is
what goddamn engine? Would you want? No Chicken? I think if we
legit realistic logistically, if we actually could get one school, would you like,
what would you pick if you if you had all the options? Like
dair Reckoning is good. I think the mind's making a lot better if you
take the if you take the indus straight from the game, I feel like
there's not as much in that regard as like an ability to play something on
here comes of paint. I was just thinking just straight up, like if
I'm playing a match, oh okay, like you're playing like weird Buddies.
Yeah, just the actual, like fucking like gameplay, I guess. Yeah.
I like Dare Reckon a lot, like. I think it's super fun.
I thought directing too was cool too. I enjoyed that game. I
think playability the stamina ship. Sorry, oh no, you're good. Which
which game was the one where you go in the shower and you Tory Wells,
that's that's that SVR. That's not actually it might be that's but that's
same engine. Right. Yeah. Tech seven was fun. I like to
say seven might be like a complete version of that engine. I think I
think, uh, I think it took away some of the fun stuff.
But yeah, I think it took away some of the fun ship. But
like with the GM mode and everything, I think the GMO was better the
year before, but it was still good. I feel like the game still
had all its animations and ship. Still don't know why they took all that
shit out. I don't understand. I'll never understand, you know, I'll
be I'll be forty five years old asking why the hell they take out a
thousand animations. Brian Williams is back. We could ask now, Brian Williams.
Brian Williams has to answer for it. At some point. We got
questions, Brian, and we'll see you this week. I don't know why
we were why that fucking Tory came into this, because this is about us
making a DPW game. I mean, yeah, we could work that out.
Andrew ever be in their button naked, probably yeah he would. He'd
be the guy that walks in with the broad It's my bro right here is
mister fuck You's mask. You see this He's talking to Skeletor. Yeah,
mister fuck you walked in but as naked takes a mask. Dude, that's
it something lot like you. That's weird. Yeah, I mean it is
weird. It should be stunned. No, it should be. We should
not you should have looked into it. We don't want to answer for your
I know what we were talking about. But thank you all question all the
questions. It was a good questions good and that is it for the Q
and A this week. Thank you for all the questions and uh, you'll
get another one in a couple of weeks. All right, Time to get
into w c W Nitro June ninth, nineteen ninety seven. It's the Summer
of No Regrets, holy shit, not the Summer of the Giant Tony,
because he's not here, not here, not here tonight. He's in Germany
doing He's in Germany because there. I don't know why. He was supposed
to call in one a hundred collect and just couldn't find a payphone over there.
He couldn't fit into one too damned. Before we get into the show,
let's take a look at what was going on in the world of wrestling
with the Wrestling Observer newsletter from June ninth, nineteen ninety seven, another of
the most accomplished light heavyweight wrestlers in modern times, Great Saske, signed a
six month contract with the w WF, where it is believed he'll become the
focal point of the promotion's new division. Saske will finish up the next Mitchinoku
Tour, which ends on June twenty second, and debuts with the WBF on
June thirtieth Rowsworth Show facing independent junior champion Taka Michinoku, which will probably be
something of the kickoff to the new division. The WBF is making a new
set of championship belts, and a lighter weight belt is among them, and
is believed the division in its inception will be built around Saske, who will
likely defend his ground against other wrestlers from the Mitchenoku and possibly FMW promotions.
Well, none of that fucking happens. I mean, they make a light
heavyweight title, but Saske doesn't breathe on that fucking thing, does it.
He never wins that, right, I don't think. Yeah, I don't
think so. Yeah, I think I forget about that. In East w
News, Raven's final match will be June seventh at the Arena East of Arena,
please answer emails, and the plan right now is for him to debut
on Nitro on June ninth and not return for the pay per view. Raven
was being heavily criticized for sand banging it through his matches the past few weeks
on his way out of e c W, surprising, I guess I'm glad
he went to w c W. Like, you know, I think that
was cool. He was it was non canon, but it was. No.
I think it was cool because we finally got to understand his character a
little more. E c W. They just never there's no storytelling. You
understand the character and get to understand his character, and it was not cated.
You fucking I don't know. That was his mom and his dad was,
and that was the sandman that was, and that was his brother.
Always knew he's a spoiled rich kid for real. No, No, it
made a lot of sense to me. It really, like if you think
about it, not just think about it. And his best friend mortis from
summer camps from next door. I like that man, summer camp friends and
fuck your buddy, and you know, actually, Nessary, I think ECW
is non canon this is a really it sounds like a bunch of headcan and
bullshit, and me they were just matches w CW News. The company interview
rule is that Flair, Piper, and Hogan can't be referred to as old.
Although Flare and Piper can be called fossils and Jurassic slap asses, they
can't be called old. Vince Russa came in and said, all right,
we're taking that rule out. Yeah, immediately, no way was old old
guard walk through the back, old old old w F News. The original
idea of the Paul Barrow surprise, by the way, and this was I
think they did an angle on raw where like baraget a promo in front of
three like burial plots, and I think the idea was somebody was resurrecting the
Undertaker, and it was supposed to be Papa Shanko. Yes exactly, But
but Papa Shanko ends up obviously not being a part of the angle. I
guess they thought because he just signed for another four years, they were going
to have him do Papa Shanko again instead of out of being Comma Mustafa.
But that does not happen. Yeah, he gets a better Gammick. I
think, yeah, I think that that would have been insane and they should
have went for it. I was lightning bolt strikes the Undertaker in his g
fucking dig this grave up, and like everything would have been fine, you
know what I mean, gonna kill me? What the fun? That's awesome.
The photo of Sean Michael's wearing an Outsider's T shirt appears in the July
issue of one of the Napolitano magazines, which should further endear Michael's, does
the definite If you have one more note regarding Michael's in his contract, if
he did have a written clausing he was guaranteed to be the highest paid guy
in the company, and McMahon didn't renegotiate his contract when Brett got the better
deal, then that's a contract breach. And he could leave any time he
wants. Oh, he leaves any time he wants. Already he leaves constant.
He's never fucking there. From The Observer, June sixteenth, nineteen ninety
seven. The World Wrestling Federation's fifth annual King of the Ring show had an
interesting plot. Irony Hunter Hurst Helmsley was scheduled to win King of the Ring
last year. Ah, but largely due to the punishment from an incident in
Madison Square Garden. Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?
He was not on the card. I don't know, dude. He just
had some friends, had friends in the ring and they were wrestling business.
No, they were hugging in the ring man, and it caused a big
catastrophe that four people were involved with in and one guy got punished and ended
up getting the biggest push of his life whenever his pudgement was done. And
now he owns and runs the company practically, so he kind of even worked
out for everybody. Uh, he wasn't even on the card, having been
eliminated in a television preliminary tournament match. Fast forward to this year and Helmsley
was eliminated in a television preliminary match again, but due to an injury to
Vader and several changes and plans, Helmsley was not only put back in the
tournament, but given the crown on June ninth at the Providence siventh Center.
So I didn't realize he wasn't even supposed to win again. In my mind,
it was always Okay, we're gonna push him this year, and then
give him to a Magic No, that's the story they always tell in the
documentaries. Yeah, I got w B pilled. Yeah exactly, Fuck dude,
I would have had him lose in the gold Dust until two thousand and
three or four years in after this Masses Square Garden things all right, it
looks like Gero Money have another hunter hurt Elsey gold as match. He finally
beats him after seven years. Nah nah, he just yeah swins. Their
record show was one hundred and ninety four zero. The initial plans were for
Helmsley to lose first round to Ahmed Johnson, which he does, but then
after a convoluted explanation necessitated by the injury de Vader making him unable to wrestle
Crush, Helmsley was put back in the tournament and beat Crush to advance.
Based on television commercials taped the final four or originally meant to be A'med Johnson
Vader gold Dust in Salvio Vega, So gold Dust could have been kicking the
Ringmed for sure, dude. Based Ahmed, we were talking about what if
i'm a Johnson had gone to E c W like Sid did, and I
think he would have had the craziest fucking career. He would have been head
dropping dudes on concrete. Thank you, Oh my god, that's that's what
we said. We say he's got one of the jeans and all the pads
and all that under the gen Yeah. Probably he's gotta have the judge too,
right, the judge from me Jones, Yeah, he's got him too.
And the stretcher. I don't think so. In all of Japan news,
uh Saboo quit the promotion because he was mad about how he was positioned
as an undercard wrestler who put over the top names when he was in the
ring with them. Straw that broke the camel's back was him having to put
over giant Kamala two Kamala. There's no way, Terry, we gotta were
we gonna watch that? Or was that a different fucking match. We're gonna
watch Sabu versus or No? Was it r v V versus Uganda? Was
it? Though? Right? Isn't it? The Uganda was like Jacob?
It was on hardcore TV? I think yeah, it was like rmy or
Saboo against Uganda, which is also another guy that's not the original Kamala,
right, not Kamala but it totally is is giant Kamala two? Also Uganda,
Yeah, Uganda is ja Kabala two. Dude, Saboo is sick of
that is unbelievable. I gotta put that down. That's all the watch list
of this now. In ww news, the word came down from the top
that Turner wants no more words like ass or damn us on the wrestling show.
They're really trying to censor free speech. Isn't free anymore here in w
w The fuck is going on here. We'll take ours over to us a
network. I'll take my old damn ass bag uh and w F news.
W officials claimed Grayske was never offered a deal. He promised a yeah,
that's fantastic. Yeah, the future of this whole division, the whole division.
Yeah, we never talked to him. This one. We are going
to get into a little later after the show, because it's a lot of
craziness that happens after the episode we watch and it feels like it makes more
sense to talk about it after the main event. Somehow. The same week,
the same day, two major fights backstage in both w w F and
w cw UH. The w F fight was a Breton Seawan. I'm sure
you're surprised. Uh. And the w CW fight was Roddy Piper and Kevin
Nash. Wow, not as surprising in my opinion. But there's a lot
to talk about it about that, so we'll uh, we'll save those for
the for the end. So that is it for the observer until we talk
about it some more later when we talk about all the fighting. So let's
talk about w c B Nitro U ninth, nineteen nine. All right,
so we get into Nitro, a bunch of fucking buildings and channel. We're
in nineteen ninety seven. Here we got Iron Mike Today, Tony Shavanni and
Larry's Abisco for the hour one commentary based Yeah, twenty two thousand fans here
in Boston. Yeah, man, they packed this bitch out. Huh dude,
they say, they say, at one point, there's the largest attendance
ever for Monday night wrestling ever in the history of ever, which is correct.
Fucked until they do Chicago, right, and then they do bigger than
that after that, right, Orgia. Yeah, but they're rocking there eighty
three weeks, right, this is deep into eighty three weeks where waited all
the all the ratings right there, can Raw's ass, I think is Or
is not coming and they looked at I said, our ratings are not going
to go up. Will Or will not change the game. Uh, Tony
Seovanni says Dennis Rodman the Worm and hul Cogan will Hollywood Hogan. Excuse me.
We'll team at Bash at the Beach on Sunday and their opponents yet to
be named. So Bash at the Beach is in July and not this Sunday.
Great American Bash is this Sunday. So Great American Bash does not have
the Worm. It's the one next month. Correct, but both building they're
building there, yes, correct, Well, Limo has arrived to w c
W Monday, Nitro, as it always does. A Limo is always at
this fucking building every single week, eighty three weeks in a row, he
said. Craig Leathers. Shravannie said, Craig Leathers, tells me the NWB
of arrive do they always say Craig, He's always in the back on the
head, said Craig Leathers. It's like Joe Alimo has arrived and Miss Elizabeth
gets out of it. Uh. And as she gets out d d P
trench coat runs okay, thank you. I'm glad I was the only one.
It was cool. I thought he was staying. He was well,
they needed it for later. They needed it for later the night. But
I do like this look for him. I thought it was he looked like
a guy that was gonna get beat by the Undertaker. Sas no, I
actually give a DDP a pass here. You know the last time I watched
Mad, but this this was good. I thought this is good. He
runs up to the fucking limousine and Miss Living is like, oh my fucking
god, is a stalker or something up on? The Undertaker now shrikes This
guy got said loud d here guys, sorry woman, whatever trinch fucking coat
on you think? Kicks the ship out of this window? Man in this
limits crashes through it. I swear he was gonna fall his ask. He's
got cowboy boots on and he kicks it like what it It doesn't breakout like
it's also another point tony trench coat and fucking cowboy boots. Trench. He
doesn't kick through the window on the first try. It takes like three and
I three, and I swore he was gonna like go right through it and
get stuck. Yeah, I'm glad you didn't get hurt or anything. That's
pretty cool. So okay. So Elizabeth then slams the door on DDP.
She's out of the limousine. Ah, he falls over and then it's supposed
to be Macho Man in the lima. By the way, just to make
sure he understands why DPS he's not attacking miss Elizabeth. We should have said
that trying to get to Macho Man, Elizabeth slammed the door. She slams
it on dB falls over, and then Macho Man and Olympic driver leave and
Miss Olimbit is still there. She just runs away. She is running away
from the limo. They didn't let her get back in and just speed off.
It's insane. I like the way we've talked about this before on Nitrop,
but you know, I just thought I would rerun it back. Sure.
I enjoy the way that this is set up like we are watching a
pro wrestling event in action. Like I like the way that around it,
right, Yeah, where like these are our matches for this evening. If
something happens or like something like someone can't compete or something, we have matches
that are are booked to take the spot of those matches. Yeah. Yeah,
I like it, like we're tuned into our number one and then we'll
see what our number two has to offer for us, and like it's a
living, breathing show. Yeah, And I think that's really cool. And
I like the way that, like, you know, like me and Gene
will come out between the matches and talk to the guys. And he's such
a natural he can pull anything out of anybody just because means you like on
the show. Yeah, he's a natural. He's just just very natural with
everything. I actually like his I think I like his WCW stuff more than
like his WWF stuff, just because like he's able to absolutely, I don't
know, he just seems more integral to the show. I think he like
keeps the show going, you know, like the story he like he's dial
in on like all the storylines and everything. So like he'll he'll like let
it go, you know, and he'll keep it going. You've got He'll
he'll walk you into the right direction. Yeah, exactly exactly, I think
because I just grew up, you know, not during that time. But
I don't I in my mind, mean Gene is a w CW guy.
Yeah, I consider mean Ginga a w CW guy. I think it's very
funny the wrestle may and I with him doing a little lip thing. Nothing
that's very funny. But I liked that the show. Like on Raw in
contrast, they don't really talk about the matches in this way that WCW does
usually the way that they booked on Raw, and that was like a russo
thing in the way that they like to do. It was like it was
really reactive, so like nothing was booked for the night and stuff for one
match and then like they just kind of, you know, would do something,
but they're like, okay, but this is our fucking opening contest.
It's a six man tag, it's you know, it's common in Mexico.
Yeah, the last week the show. Yeah, and like this is why
we're doing it. We have a United States Championship defense later on in the
evening, and like all the matches, I don't know, like it just
seems like a wrestling show, and I really respect. I think that's cool.
I like it a lot. And this show for a go home show,
especially the ending is tremendous. Yeah it is. Yeah. So the
first match of the evening is Ultimate Dragon Hoovey and Superclo versus Silver King,
Psychosis and Laparca. This is fucking insane. It's fucking in saying. I
was like, well, they kept coming out of God, damn, what
is this? Did I sound super close? I was like super close,
and mister you would be a legendary team six man champions, super Clow,
mister Skeleton take it Over is not ready for that? No, they're not.
Dude, Laparca in the sweet ass robe. Yeah, he looks awesome
and he always looked cool. He does look awesome. This match is Lucha
rules, by the way, so you can roll out and get a tag
and that confused everyone button like today, like Mike Today, how he's like
he just explains everything like this is what's going on, this is why it
is and today the rest a little lenient as well with these kind of matches
is what's exactly what he says? Yeah, I think it's I think it's
well done in that regard, because if if there wasn't so body to like
say, like what the fuck is going on, then like Mike Today's ship
wouldn't mean half as much like Larry's abisco selling it being like, what the
fuck is the ref even here? For He's like, well, because this
is how they're this is done all over the world, and like this is
you can steal the show, and like I think you have sometimes you have
to have a guy there that, uh, that like offers, yeah,
he offers like a different like he's like a dick, you know what I
mean. And then Mike Today's like, no, this is exactly this is
why it's happening. Because then your brain goes, oh shit, this is
why it's happening type ship. Yeah right, I think that's kind of cool.
Yeah, it makes it matter. Uh. And I don't know how
many times they did Luca text, but I was. I was actually I
don't know if I've seen one in WW. They were going off the rails
in this bitch too, dude, this is awesome. Larry's Obisco says,
uh, well, Rick Flair and Piper Tonight are against two cowardly rats of
the New World Owner. There's the line in the odor and he says,
I finally figured out Lucha liber rules. There ain't none, and then Today
says, well, come on, now, that's not that's not all true.
Goddamn. The match starts all six guys getting the ring and stand off.
They get out and then get in and stand off, and then there's
a U s a chance shadow, which you know they were chanting boring during
the match too. They were chanting boring every match. Yeah, I was
surprised. Really, it wasn't even a boring match. I don't know either
were channing boring. It was a just fucking crazy. I think they just
wanted to see like Piper and Flair and like, you know what, but
I wanted him to do a double down and go yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, man, I hate that. I hate I'll be honest.
Yeah that anyway, and uh, Ultimate Dragon immediately falls off the top rope
and uh he tweaked his legger whatever, Tony, he could have got hurt
there, for real, Yeah he could have. I was looking, I
was like, oh, man, I used to like Ultimate Dragon. What
happened here? He got wrest front so onto a Dragon falls off the top
rope, this side coaches, hits the corner and goes to the floor,
And that was insane in the way he could possibly done. I've never see
some ship like this. He was trying to make up for it by dying
Super colored then just fucking tosses Laparker to the oside of his feet and the
Parker hits the ropes like a right doll backwards monkey flip to Laparka where Laparca
legit rag doll casual for wrestling style into the ropes. Oh by the way,
uh, Laparka is not the chairman yet, he's just doing cool skeleton
dude. She also uses a chair though red yes, but he's not doing
the chairman dancing he uses. He brought his own wooden chair from Mexico.
Wooden chair is out of control. So immediately after super Colo tosses Laparker to
the outside of his feet, super clod that does his very awesome spot where
he does a flipping sins onto the fucking floor from the rain on top of
la Parker who is laying down. It was legit dude a dive to the
floor. Swanton the long supercolor is the best ever. You guys know he
has glasses sewed onto his glass that's on the market and he said you are
way cooler to be gone. You can cool. Uh so yeah, flipping
send on the fucking floor from the ring and then hoovey eat ship in the
corner. This is such a card, It's awesome. I love this market
is crazy, Like I thought he was going for an arm drag because he
keeps just ringing fucking uh CALO's arms and he just bell yeah, so hoofy,
like lavistices himself to his own feet around the parka and teenage kicks and
ship. It was crazy. It looked great matches like going off the rails
completely like they're chatting boring and this match is like, this is the craziest
match I've ever seen, the stirring, the craziest parts to their chatting,
boy like what do you you probably want to piper whatever. Tony the parker
goes for a drop and the Ropes give him apolo driver because one yeah,
please stop doing that. Oh they say on commentary that Silver King is the
son of legendary Luca Libre doctor Wegner. Oh, I thought it was Martin
Luther King's son. That makes anyways, matches off the fucker rails at this
point, Ultimate Drade, It's like, goes do this fucking just awesome like
Herkin Rana pin reversal spot for close to fucking boring. Crowd is like this
sucks, like we're not watching the same ship. Where's the w O.
So Laparca then flips Silver King over the top rope and then moon saws to
the floor. Ultimate Monkey flips them and the Laparka Rana's Ultimate over the top
to the floor. What the fuck? Super Colored that hits a summersault flip
splash on Mike Today's Special. He broke his back to because Silver King like,
he lands on Silver kings shoulder and like Silver kick bombs but gallowed like
goes over. Dude. La Parker then sets somehow finds a wooden fucking chair.
I have no idea what he got from he brought it on the plane
over and does a sadie I would just route the same thing. Sad boo
dive off the wooden chair, then hoove and tude Baseball slides the wooden chair
into La Parker's face and hits a double jump splash onto onto a dragon.
Think gets a Frankenstein in the ring, and it gets a dragon sleeper on
psychosis uh and he ends up winning the match for his team. That was
a sweet finish. I like the every move you can possibly do. Boring
dude in that Dude onto my dragon. You know, for whatever it's worth,
they fucking pushed the ship out of this guy man like they did.
I remember him being a big part of w CW, especially early on.
I have to take some issue with Ultimore Dragon, the boys. I have
to because of independent wrestling. Listen, guys, Ultimore Dragon, why why
did you have to take the picture with all the titles? Why did you
have to do it? Because I think it too? Was he first?
I don't know if he was first, but Ultimo Dragon picture that everybody references
though, Yeah, well if it was great Saske, then I'm glad that
WF City lie. Everyone wants that fucking picture, man, Everyone wants the
picture with all the belts, and they have it with every goddamn title,
Goddamn South fucking Soup Lex Pro and goddamn shitty butt ass bro fucking Double Whopper
Pro. Take this out. I can't fucking take it anymore. I can't
take it. Fucking So Ultimate Dragon ends up getting the w I love when
they just got Ultimate Dragon. They did for a minute. The Ultimate Dragon
always talks about that. La Parka then comes in with the goddamn wooden chair
used earlier. It just throws it as supercl La Park is taking up for
his boy that just quit all Japan. If you guys like that, you'll
love this guy. Terry bro Terry dude, imagine if he can Like,
they couldn't use the name Sam Boos, so he had to go by his
shoot name Terry just going for so uh. La Park the person that's the
fucking oh my god, got so uh. Anyways, we got Ultimate Dragon
who view super Colo picking up the wind here the wooden chair repeatedly. Yeah,
he's pissed because of the hat glass stops him out. Coolest. Has
he even made him a two Canada glasses his shirt all his ship absolutely him.
We had to get him, mister you and Skeletor And is he working
still super Colow Yeah, dude, he just wrestled this month. Oh ship
you think he's still rocking shirt? He wearing like you never know? You
know what I'm saying, like you never know? I got ship. He
can come in. We're gonna immediately book him in hat glasses shirt. Mister
first matches a hag glasses shirt. I think he's wrestling Cristage. He hes
a ship out. Frank is the dude. Frank definitely, definitely has the
iggy from super Colo. Give us the because I dedicated Superclow. We all
l Frank is the fucking Reverport. That's the guy, dude, She's not
even guess the show. Super Colo just walks. Frank has a like all
on his eyes. Dude, check this out. There is there's a Supercilow.
I found a video, but he's still going. He's still brock in
the same look, the same dude glasses. Fucking dude, Please tell me
does onto the floor still? Someone give us super Colos booking info and now,
and also make sure Frank's all this show all right? So we have
Lex Luger town hall me and Jean calls Luger out here to talk about the
bullshit that has been going on with Holk, Cogan, Dennis Rodman, the
nWo, et cetera, et cetera. It mean, Jan says, from
Hogan Rodman they both signed on for Bash at the Beach. Have you heard
anything from them in the past seven days? And Luger says, no word
from Hogan, but no surprise. And before I forget, there's one last
little detail. Hogan, you have a lot of problems with your scheduling.
You know your movie parts and lining up your limousines. Well, JJ Dillon
has decided that you, you know, you haven't defended your title since February,
which is fucking crazy. By the way, is that is that true?
It's probably true. Yeah, it's probably true. June. Yeah,
well, I mean he's like holding a hostage is kind of the idea,
but like from no pay per views from February till now, the house is
down, brother sports season, I'm not working on a superlow card, dude.
Well, lu, I'm not losing my hat and glasses, Brother Lucer,
says Ty in the Fleet Center. They've decided you're gonna wrestle, and
you're wrestling the huge fucking bob from the crowd. Lune is super over in
w CW man, He's the rack is super over. It's unbelievably over.
It is not only not only is the Rack super over, but they did
such a good job of like they didn't even try to make him anything.
He wasn't or anything. They just said, this guy hates Hogan in the
n w O he's a big bastard and he fucking hates all Gogana. I
like the total package heel turned to. Actually I did too like that DP.
Yeah, it's cool. I will say this much. I love JJ
Dillon in the committee. I think having that is a is a big bonus
and like it wasn't even over the top. J J. Dillon would come
out and talking. He like, yeah, hoaking it is a piece of
ship. I'll be honest with you and find that we're signing this for this
card. Yeah, I think that's really cool. Yeah, very to the
point. So we go to a pre tape. Mike today is smiling in
the parking lot. Uh, he meet squids, Roddy Piper, and Rick
Flair who bull up in a Lemma. Just before that, they showed a
shot of three shirtless guys with w c W painting all him and that is
dead luck. Yeah, that's awesome. Most people still did that, I
know. Yeah, I lost art the naked body Payton lost art fans who
want to be there at the show. So yeah, I don't know if
you. I don't know if this was on purpose or not, but I
think that the n W Alemo was black and then the good guy Limo was
white. Oh is that right? Yeah, it probably wasn't on purpose,
but I like that. Yeah. Well, Piper says me and Flair have
haven't been more solid in our entire life. And we don't have to wait
for a pay review. There's fighting to do. I don't. I just
know it tonight and he was fired the funk up? And did you think
yourself? Piper makes no fucking sense or he's talking, But I could listen
to this guy just say whatever the fuck he's talking about forever. He's so
like just he's just charismatic. Ma, He's just a fucking fun gotta listen
to. Well, you're right, he makes no fucking sense here because he
says, you think you're so hot? Outsiders Congress A couple of dinosaurs.
Jurassic Park. We're a couple of hip dinosaurs. The only thing we have
in common with Jurassic Park is the Lost World, and that's what you're gonna
happen to you when you're in the ring. What amore? So we can
alway say Jurassic Park bones legendary Claire says the heart rod has been absent.
But tonight we walk out that door and your thing, Bobby Orr and Larry
Bird are walking down that all to night in Boston. Larry Bird, you
know my parrot. Hey, you're right, Wow, what the fuck?
Alive a long time? So he's been a live longer than me. Ship
he's seen this. Next match Alex Wright versus Chris Jericho. Wish he hadn't
come on. Chris Jericho is coming off the best of the Super Genis tournament
in Japan? Did you win all the days off? But it's dude,
I'll tell you that much. Alex Right is at his all time prime athleticism
here, Like he is absolutely insane. Dude. I agree. By the
way, when his music hit, I was like, oh, we're getting
the Nitro girls segment. It's even better. Yeah, Alex Wright does his
dance in the ring. There's some dudes in the front row laughing, but
there was a couple of girls in the front row admired and mirror my boy
here. Yeah, that's a dude. I give you this much. On
Alex Tright, he was in the Deadlock Orange. He fucking came to the
ring, moon salt off the top road, lands on his fucking feet,
hits the day out. That's true. I mean this guy was rocking.
Man. Chris Jericho, are you bere fucking figured it out? Buddy?
Dude? He beats the fuck out of Chris Jericho this whole matter straight minutes.
That's only like eight like yes, Like I said, Mike Today mentions
that Jericho was in the best of the Super Junior Tournament Japan. I liked
that they would reference this ship, especially because they were working together with so
many like historical companies at the time. Yeah, they put it over.
They put it. Not only that that they said it might have actually been
Zubisco that said, oh, he's you know over there in Japan going for
titles. I was like, oh shit, okay, So we start the
match off. Here, Jericho hit the triangle drop kick, knocks Alex right
off the apron. Here gets cut off right hits a crazy I don't know
if I've ever seen this move springboard double axe on the apron. That was
fucking crazy. It's probably a TK move, I'll tell you this much.
Man. On this match, I thought that they had they were cooking for
about four or five minutes. Sure. I thought this was like I was
like, Wow, they're really like lighting this up. This is like,
this is a really good like match for both these guys. Anyway, boring
bor Jericho, uh Sadly this match like about the second half of the match,
Jericho runs out of shit and fucking Alex Wright doesn't have any ship to
do at the end, it's just fucking slow it down and get ten lucks.
Of course, yeah, he does get a lot of heat. Jericho
does his uh the jumping back heel kick that he doesn't that he's gonna be
revenge. That's about that's about all. Yeah, yeah, it's it.
And then he gets camel clutched. And I was surprised when they put how
they put this together, especially like I know, Jericho I think ends up
beating them in a couple of weeks anyway. But sure, I wonder if
the it was, hey, go out there and get Alex right over,
just let him do all the ship. I yeah, but I yeah,
you're right, and I and like especially with the finish with the roll up,
like right, I definitely think that people wanted more from Jericho. I
fucking did, God damn it. I don't want to see Jeriko did some
ship. Yeah, I'm sure Jericho also wanted more from Jericho. Yeah,
biggest The biggest part of the match for the crowd was when the security guard
grabbed the beach ball. They were bouncing around the fucking whole building and the
crowd booed heavy and then they gave up that Yeah, yeah you're right,
and you can see the camera he's walking by with the beach ball boot and
then stay like that's the shot. They stay on too. So Alex Wright
likes Jericho ups with some Europeans here and like early on, like they're really
like Alex Wrt's really showing off, like what he can do. Yeah,
the snug as fuck, he's getting his heat, hits his dance. Get
Jericho's some time to get back up. He just opened. Jericho's hopes were
never in this match. They were never believable, and they never gave the
crowd what they wanted. And by the time he did come back and flip
the match, they didn't care because Right had gotten so much bullshit and they're
like, wow, I don't give him tun of bullshit. Yeah, a
ton of bullshit that went on forever. They're pissed about the beach ball.
Jericho does a fucking Gibson driver and they don't give a fuck. I said,
Okay, come on, he fucking fucks it up. He like he
he tries to be way too nice on us. He wants to ye right
to go for a King Kong knee drop though. I thought that was cool.
Dude, Alex Right misses the King Kong and you drop off the top.
Yeah, dude just fucking slams his knee right in the mat from fucking
crazy he does hit the world strongest slam uh and then dude Alex Right up
and OsO splash. That was cool. I did like that, dude,
that was very cool. Floss move alert Yo, Hello, anybody want to
take this ship up and over splashes crazy? A big guy could do this,
like like a huge guy like this is like from the Apron Yeah yeah,
and Jerco sounds set for two. They're fucking chanting boring here. This
is where Jericho does the w to be a new revenge jumping heel kick,
which Alex Right sells and then loads up a lariat and fucking Jared Zone.
But then he goes into a chemical clod hs and up come on. They're
like they're there, and then they slowed down again. I said, no,
fuck man, I get like, you know, cutting them off,
but don't cut him off and then do nothing for I was totally yeah.
I was totally cool with the chin loock because I thought it was leading to
the comeback. Jericho hits the Siedo out of it, but then he just
goes right back to another chin lock and then he tries to roll him up
and then he goes into a cameo clutch. I'm like, okay, god
damn man. I was like, Jerco better have like a super mega finisher
for this fucking dude at the end of this, and they and they had,
and like I said, I think like when they put the match together,
everything was fucking perfect, Like especially if you take the first half of
the match and then him like you know, finally Jericho gets back up,
and Jericho's up for a minute, like you're right, he hits the Tiger
Driver fucking drop kick from the corner cross body out body, right yeah,
and like he's like he's like it's his match now, and right it's like
oh fuck, Like I can't I let him get too much and then like
he's able to use the ropes and sheet and beat him, but like,
yeah, then it's just overt well, like the finish is perfect, but
if they did, they spent way way too much time so that when Jerko
was finally up, he fucking blew the Tiger Driver fucking drop kicking the crowd
and said, what the fuck ever? You know what I mean? Yeah,
like it sucks that you watch him match like that because it's so good
and everything's putting together so tightly. But yeah, it was just like,
you know, a little mist It's not like it's in the world, but
it's just like a little well, something that I'd noticed while watching it,
you know. No, yeah, no, I completely agree. And if
they there was there was makings of a and I imagine there was makings of
a real good match, and I imagine they run it back and it's probably
better. Uh yeah, I imagine so, especially because Wright's like are just
a super good hand, right, never even did very much in wrestling,
Like he was just harun Yeah it was Berlin. Come on, now he's
Berlin. That's what I said. He has w w run and come on.
But Berlin was very important. Come on, he had the hair and
the glasses and if you would have got a shirt and maybe we would have
some dide I'll tell you this much. He went on Sunday Night Heat with
the goddamn dance. He would have been super over. He would have been
dude, especially we were coming up in the era like two thousand and three
ish, like once we started getting rude the aggression where like a Lance and
Coe were like super into haha and foreign heels. Yeah he was, and
he was both. Yeah, he could have done both. Its weird.
Spent all that time not signing Rene dupri and just had Alex. I'm surprised
that he just put him in the group. Yeah whatever, he's fucking French
or whatever. Who cares prove me wrong? And me as a kid,
I'm like, all right, this guy's French. Now, I guess I
would he was a French simpervisor. Yes, so there you go. But
yeah, Jericho won with this. Well, sorry, Jericho went for a
spring back cross body. As we said, Alex right rolled through but got
his feet on the ropes and got the wind. Yeah. They worked hard
here, just a few little things they probably could have changed, and they
went that they weren't even changing boring in the chin lock and were chained boring
and like the hot Yeah, I don't know what the fuck is going on
there. So we move on to the next match. Here, it's Malia
Osaka versus a Cure Hotel. Hotel was the women's champion. They only have
this like a year or something, or like a year and a half.
The music plays sounds like evil Goldberg music, and I said, who the
fuck is? Then it's the nicest baby face ever of course, of course,
Yeah, she has the most evil, fucking crazy Hill theme ever and
she's come out smiling. There's a loud ass pirate to Yeah, dude,
Kia Hook though, comes out with a fucking respirator on what the is?
Yeah, he said ship Sonny owned pumping the gas with honor give her.
They said, you just making sure that you can breathe for this one.
This is a storyline. There's like you go to the guy, you know,
a Green Bay Packers gave or whatever, you go to get the dogs
and it's just like that. Only that's one thing about America is that when
you go to the Green Bay Packers Stadium, you have to get this holy
ship. So character though, Yeah, but yeah, I mean, like
you they try, Okay, they did try. But yes, I was
gonna say in regard to that that she could have been everything that they ever
needed her to be for this division to work the last fucking like the end
of this match, and then what happens after I don't know how you see
that and don't go holy fuck, holy fuck. Every week we need this.
This is the same same thing that happened in WWF where Aja Kang had
that match, you know with yeah, you're right, Chaparita, I think
no one could ever live up to it ever. Again, well, they
said, you guys are too You're like you're you're being too mean, like
you're being too stiff, and like they're like, fuck that shit, and
like in regards to this, like they only ever wanted Medusa over. That's
true, right, which is so fucking crazy because like a Kira Hotel is
like historically one of the best wrestlers ever period, you know what I mean.
And like she's I mean, she's definitely the bumper starting to catch up
on her in that regard, and like she I believe she only she goes
into like two thousand and one or two or something like that, Okay,
but she's still I mean, like in regards to the American style, god
damn, you know what I mean, she could have gave me you everything,
and she does. She she was working at twenty percent power, you
know what I mean, really maybe thirty percent. She got the oxygen pumped
into the mask. But it's just it's crazy because like if they had a
little more foresight or a little more just knowledge, they could have done like
WWF they would never be able to compete in that regard or they would have
legit. It would have changed the whole industry, like how they look at
women's wrestling forever. Yeah, one hundred percent. I think that, like,
like it's we definitely would have to still go through the era of like
tits and ass right, Like we definitely still because that's just the that's just
pop culture and how it was at time. But like that's sable and like
you know, and I definitely it's not fucking working with russo fucking book of
this card, you know what I mean. Sure, So, like it
was always an uphill battle anyways. But like if we got to it's a
w CW lasted past two thousand and one, and we got to two thousand
and one, two three, and Akira Hooto is still there and she's still
on top or like she's putting over the next people that are coming over,
et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, dude, that would have like,
oh my god, it would have forced them to change. It would have
forced a change that would have changed everything in wrestling forever, like it definitely
would have. It would have the scale would have just gone insane, like
everyone just had to get better and better and better. But Sally didn't happen,
and she she had the belt and it was just it was a Medusa
belt pretty much. How long does this belt last for? It was like
a year, year and a half ninety six, ninety seven. Yeah,
I was gonna say, yeah, it's gone pretty soon, hoto. Actually
she I think she holds it pretty much the entire time. Okay, yeah,
she would have, and then she leaves or what they retire the belt
they were tied. Yeah, they retire the belt and then they make the
cruiserweight title the women's Cruiserweight title. They had the tournament for it. I
think we watched one of it on Patriot. Can't remember. I think so.
Yeah. Yeah, dude, Karooto didn't even drop it to Medusa,
so like, yeah, she was the champion, she held it, she
vacated it because she had to leave the country on June fifteenth, it's the
next week, oh the pay per view. Yeah, she drops it after
she leaves the country. And then Devil Masami ends up winning it at All
Japan Women's Show and it's and then it's deactivated in ninety eight. S Yeah,
the last defense of the title occurred at the Great American Bass June fifteen,
ninety seven. Like you said, Hakto defeated Medusa in a title versus
career match. Medusa retired and Akira Hokuto went back to Japan and the title
was apparently vacated, and then in September Devil Masami won the vacated title.
However, it was abandoned shortly thereafter, and then WB can continue to feature
women's wrestling occasionally on its minor TV shows during ninety eight, and then in
ninety December of ninety eight, Mike Today acknowledge at Kiara Hookoto as the reigning
ww Women's Champion on TV even though she had lost it and then someone else
had won it. So Akira Hoto versus Malio Osaka in this match, Mike
Toenay mentions that ak Hoto is married to Kin's Kisasaki that used to wrestle here,
which is historically a crazy relationship. And uh, we just talked about
Kasuzaki on World When we talk about World Japan a few weeks ago. Yes,
he thumb money into the fucking so Aka Hoto offers the code of honor
to start the match. Malik Osaka takes it, but then Hookedo just attacks
her. Ha hair bules her as hard as you can across so she supplex
everyone was crazy by the way, the second one, like the first one
was rough, but then she fucking hair whips her the second time and like
she almost is a three sixty in the air. Dude, I liked it.
They keep like the pace here is very much like the pace would have
been in Japan in that regard, where like supplex, fuck you pick your
hair back up, We're going to the next spot, you know what I
mean? Like I know the sup plex is gonna beat you. Someone,
pick your ass back up. We're going to the fucking next thing, you
know. Sure, I think that's very cool, Like when you watch those
fucking old matches, especially from that era, man, Like the style is
just fucking break neck, like you know what I mean, picking you up,
fucking double stomp, picking you back up, fucking suplex picking you back
up, fucking back off drivers. Yeah, yeah, like this it means
something to me, man, they give this match no fucking time either,
so maybe that's a part of why they were rushing. Yeah, no,
I mean a Cure Hoto is gonna get her ship in regardless. Yeah,
she suplexes her, puts her face on the road, puts a boot on
her head, and starts flaking her hand in an arm bar. Though it
was awesome, pretty much the perfect match for the time they were given.
So does a distraction spot. She gets somebody every with his fucking shirt on,
dude, little sports, and then a Cure Hooto hits the motherfucking Northern
Lights bomb and me on the throat pin. This is that real ship.
This ship means something to me, man, this is real. Dude dumpster
her on her fucking head and then picks her up again and doesn't even fucking
gnarly your Northern Lights bombs like h just crunches her with it like nearly does
a brain bust. If you are doing this fucking move and I don't like
this, fuck you and stop using it. Boots really shipped me in the
business, Like, don't be using just frightened the game. Come on,
man, it's not you can't do this ship. So anyways, she hits
the move twice. Medusa hits the fucking ring, huge pop, crowds going
crazy. You got a hell of a fucking match here. I mean like
they said, yeah, this looks good. Was deactivated that ship, Now
get this shit out of here. That is how the fun do you see
Northern Light's bomb double style death bomb? And then Medusa comes out and does
a barrage of bridging. That was That was like the loudest pop ever,
like one of the lot pops of the night was Medusa coming out in the
Germans. What's crazy, dude? Yeah, Medusa coming out hitting, getting
fucking a Caro hoked, fucking bridging German. I was like, oh that
was cool. Then she does do more, going crazy, fired up for
this this year was good. She took him sweet too, Yeah do this
and like yeah, like I don't know how Like I said, how do
you see this last two minutes of this match? And I think I think
that we got three three months here? The bell East the belt was like
legit just for Medusa, Like it was legit and like the reason like these
people were even here in their relationship is here because Medusa said, hey,
just to get Like Medusa was like Hey, you know, I work Japan,
Like these people are really good and like we could probably do Yeah,
They're like, okay, you do this, And then fucking Medusa took it.
She didn't come back on April ninety nine, and uh yeah, dude,
she comes right back into the Oklahoma and ever courageous. God that's about
for her. God damn man. Yeah, the company is like completely different
when she comes back to did you augment her pussy legendary? You guys have
Spotify recommends one of the ten Augmented Pussy episode ten, So yeah, German
soup flex this ship out for three fucking times. This is a real shabby
l man. Someone of the crowds holding up an EACW signed because they know
I'm a Johnson's coming. Dude. Imagine if anyone at w c W liked
wrestling, dude, it'd be like even one get your head out of your
ass man would have the cooking DUTs. Uh. So we got the Steiner
Brothers town haul up next. This is crazy. Yeah, mean, Jean's
out here, Scott still in the single He's but a burst off. That
fucking seems dude, Scott looks insane to you. What the fuck, is
this dude, Scott single it close, shaved, long black hair, he
looks absurd. Bo you get squished, dude. Steiner so mean. Jane
is talking as they come out, and he's talking about the tag division,
and Jane at first he's a Scott Steiner uh, talking about everything that's happened
here, and Steiner like, fucking shoot him off to talk to reg first.
So me, Jene goes to fucking Rick Steiner, he says, and
Rick says, what's that, Gene? These are the craziest. This is
the craziest three people. This is deadlock. Gene says, what you know
what about the tag team situation here? W c W and Rick Steinder said,
it's crazy how I feel like Rick Steiner is more big Papa Pump promo
here than Scott is. Yeah, because fucking Rick starters talking Cadence is insane.
It why we gotta keep going there all w O B. We beat
him, Gene, Now we gotta go back there and proved everybody that my
brother and I the best. God says, what fucking find anybody? Bitch?
Well, Harlem Heat comes out with Sherry uh and they interrupted the book
and says, me and my brother got beef because we are seven time tag
champions and we deserve the shot at Hall and Nash and Stevie Ray says,
you know, these two suckers know we are never one to contenders beat and
Rick says, hey, that's seven stuff, don't me nothing. That's seven
times nothing to man, we can do it several several Rick sn eighth he
said, yeah, dude, he says, we can do it tonight,
and they immediately start fighting the crowd. Fucking pops. He huge, They're
fight on two totally different sides of the stage. Is awesome. I love
this. Yeah, this was fucking fantastic. I think I think they say
that this Sunday they'll fight for number one contender at the Great American Match.
Is that right? That's what they say. They said the winner gets a
title shot or whatever. Okay, yeah, that that is right. Yeah,
just a sweet way to set of an angle. Hey we want to
shot, Well, actually we're seven times, so we get the shot.
Well, let's have a match whatever. My brother hears ballsb squished, so
we get to conan versus Mango Micmichaels with Dero. I don't know if I've
ever looked at a match before and thought, this is the gonna be the
worst thing I've ever seen. They would they would have left the fight.
It would have been like legendary. I wish we would have seen it.
Yeah, I was. I was like excited. I was like, Wow,
this is gonna be horrible. Somehow, two even crazier things happened in
Sanity. I mean, no, I don't even I don't even know what.
But I don't know how to explain this. Cody comes out with the
GTA loading music, or so he looks. He looks like I do that.
The loading screen too. That's crazy. The balls, Mango, Big
Michael, of course, the Four Horsemen, of course with Deborah, with
Deborah, Jeff Jarret's also with Debby. Mango walks down with a briefcase,
and dude Kevin green of the Green Bay Packers, Kevin Greeny, Kevin Greeny,
fucking fool, sends it and just jumps. I thought he jumped off
of something. He jumped straight into the air, tight ten feet he was
gonna jump over him a safe leap, ever out of nowhere to just feel
I don't know, It's like he running jumping knees. Mango in the back
of it. I've never seen some ship like that man. And then Mango
to fight back against Kevin Greeney, who was a viciously gets up and Iras
can agree and then hot shots apon the barricade with an asshole. Well the
fight's over now, James. So Mango turns back to the ring and he's
gonna have his match with Conan. But they can't agree. Joseph yet thangs
from behind what they're fighting? Crazy security and reps are all trying to break
it up. I'm like, wow, damn, We're not gonna get this
match. Not only are we not going to get this match, we go
back to the ring and Conan is dead. What the wicked witch to drive
my alba? You know, broom is broken in the ring, Conan is
laid out. You're telling me no one saw this happen. Commentary They say
that commentary that he Codin attacked h Mores with a broomstick, so we can
only assume that it was humorris that. Uh yes, So Conan is out.
Mango looks at the crowd and I'm gonna do my best to tell you
what he said here I got Boggo, looks at the crown yells I'm a
shot with it him a four horseman. Nah, Hey that right? Yeah?
Amen, bro got this? Hey that right. We go back to
the ring and we get a shot of Nick Patrick with a big ass mustache
and he's staring at the camera and he says this never got started, so
it's a no contest, and then he also says, Okay, I'm gonna
go check on Conan. Now, yeah he does, got to first,
has been unconscious for at least bostick up as I gotta first. So Nick
Patrick goes over and checks on him, and Shavanni is already over at Conan's
death. He's advertising the upcoming matches and Larry's Bbisco says, Hollywood turns into
ed Wood New World stowing up, buddy, get the fuck out of Oh
yeah, Conan faces humorous at the pay per view. Yeah, okay,
wow, he's gonna sticks match. Loser gets live with Tony. That's crazy,
SOS. The crowd is the go to commercial. Just got the fucking
King of the Ring shirt on. Somebody getting this guy the funk out of
here, out of here commercial w commercial boks are so like abrupt and weird
that it feels like really real, you know, what I mean, like
it's like a spot but w WS were like played, you know, we
gotta take a break, but like yeah, ws WS like broos ass,
let's go to break whatever out of here for a minute. Larry's biscosissed.
Every time there's a commercial, O, what the for? Would fuck the
luger and Hogan mats is crazy? What the commercial is? So we have
a whole Cogan town hall up next. Hul Cogan comes out here with a
white six pock shirt on. That was jarring. It's because Ronnie Piper was
gonna kike his fucking ass and he said not on my watch. Brother.
I like to wow, dude, this is so crazy. I didn't even
plan for it this way. I literally wrote down the n w O quotes
are awesome dash option C because I wanted to bring up the I forgot even
I got the q A questions after. My favorite is the Eric is that
Bischoff laughing? I assume so, but I could be wrong. The deadlock
version will be awesome, ski woe, it'd be awful. Yeah, I
want to do do it. No, I can't you win, yo,
Marcus is just no reason. Hell yeah. So the first thing that Hogus
says, is I like to say hello to all my w He still that
from us? Deadlock's yeah, you're right, it sounds so much cooler it
is. Hogan says, Uh, if you want a piece of Hollywood,
mister Luger, the first thing you gotta do is start working out. Bro.
Number one, you're not in shape to get in the ring with You're
not shaped to get in the ring with me. Dude. Number two,
you couldn't beat me in this lifetime or your next lifetime. In number three,
Dude, you're messing with the main man in the nWo and Isley wrestle
or put up the nWo title when I want to no matter, then,
mister Bischoff, I'm gonna give him a piece of Hollywood. So Hogan's he
calls for the music and then he turns his back to the camera to start
posing, and he starts shaking his ass crazy Doorton pose with his hands and
then shakes his just fucking fucking rifling off his ass cheeks is and saying looking
man, and he rips his shirt. Luger comes down in the middle of
all this, gets in the ring, and neither Bischof or Hogan notice him
because Hogan's he's fucking slamming down. Hogan turns around, he points at Luger.
You Beichop says, wait a minute, Luger, you heard what the
man said. Who do you think you are? And Huggin said, well,
maybe you didn't hear me back there, dude, or maybe you just
want to I didn't realize he didn't, or maybe here, or maybe you
just wanted to come out to see what a real body you look like.
Dude. But look in my eyes, brother, he takes off his glasses.
Look in my eyes, brother, There's no way in this lifetime that
you could ever beat me in this court circle or Hollywood rules. So pack
your bags, dude, pack your want to be Hollywood body, back out
of here and get on my face before I destroy you. Pack your bags,
but pack your bag. I did write it that way, too,
fucking pay pack want to be the body. Which is funny when he's talking
about this because Luger is definitely bigger than Hugan here, which is yes,
but it's just him movie in a fucking ship. Yeah of course, Bischof
says, listen, man, I know what you instinct having Colin. You're
both Hollywood want to bees and you're not the man, and then Luger Pie
faces him. They fucking start brawng the ref is there, we ring the
bell, the matches on crowd is fired up. Luger hits the bionic forearm
because he's got title this time, dude, it is not why because he
said I'm not defending. Literally, he said, I put up the title
what I want. Why does he get to decide that. JJ Dillon knows
he has a defended and I don't know what title, dude, why don't
you pay back my So Yeah, we get Lex, Luger and Hokokin straight
to the fucking point here, well for a little bit, and then the
NBO run out. Yeah, the outsiders come down here and they say they're
gonna go to commercial break, but they definitely fu it do not for like
two straight minutes because Larry's Sibisco fucking scolds them. I think it made them
like feel like they're gonna look stupid if they want the commercial because like Larry's
like, no, stay here, He's getting back in the ring, and
then legit stay there, and then thirty sconds later show on, he says,
all right, we gotta we gotta take a break here, buddy.
So if the match gen's well were away, we'll we'll show you an instant
replay, which I always thought was cool. Yeah, I knew, I
guess I knew it wasn't gonna end in commercial, but the fact that they
made me feel like it was important and it could end and I wanted to
see it. I wasn't gonna flip over if you flip if you if you
flipped over and you missed the Fishes match, I'd be like, God,
damn it, you flip over. Goddamn is gold dust versus fucking yeah,
lose my fucking mind. Man, I go to score it. Wh he's
making fun of me. It's all redhead, all glasses. I'll look at
you or VD faces flash funk on that raw, which is weird our RVD,
uh shitty singlet RVD. I think too, like that Jerry Lawler,
it was awful, man. I will say in this regard that they do
this match again in like two or three months. Is that the August I
think that's what he was a. Yeah, that's a three hour joint and
that's like one of the best Nitro moments ever. Yeah. Oh, it's
uh It's like that is like wrestling, Like that's pure what wrestling is to
me that moment. Yeah, yeah, that energy, if you could bile
it up forever, man, that would just be Yeah, that's fucking insane.
Yeah. So yeah, Luger fucking Outsiders come into the ring here after
the commercial, Luger stops and there's really nothing to this match here. What
really really mattered here was the finish and Luger immediately fucking gets the rack on
Hogan and the crowd is going nuts. Yeah, he gets the rack on
him and like he makes him tap out, and the pop is just unfucking
believable. I was, I was, I was marking. I was like,
ohh he's down, they were gonna jump. I thought they was just
gonna jump him. I love the way because it's I I think it was
Randy Anderson that was the rep here, and like I love the way that
Randy Anderson would always call for the bell double arm, fucking like looking right,
he actually did that. Yeah that's awesome. I think that's really cool.
Yeah man, Then the Outsiders just beat the ship out of Luger.
Forever, dude, they beat the ship out of Luger and Hogan hit Okay,
So Hogan hits a leg drop on Luger. At the same time,
Piro starts going off for the second hour of the show, which it was
a crazy vision in the middle of the beat down, get a fuck off
commentary now. Then Hogan starts spamming leg drops. He hits so many leg
drops. This had to be a wrong record. It has It has to
be. Dude, like Luker stops selling him at some point, like he's
just dead selling because Hogan is he has to hit like ten of them,
right this guy. Yeah, They're like, was it seven, eight nine?
How he is this? Yeah? It was so many. And then
he'll like he'll crawl to the camera and say, Hollywood, don't take no
sticking prisoners, and then he'll fucking do another one, turn back around,
leg dropping again. Yeah, Xbox is just cross dropping crazy and Hollywood drop.
Then Hogan said, when you missed with the end of you, you're
messing with a whole bunch of us ha ha. And then I think Shavanni
said, well, yeah we want stings. It's fucking four more legs,
drop foots. Legit world a record of leg drops. No one's ever done
more than this. In that amount of time. No, in one match.
I don't think there's ever been more leg drops. There can't be.
Yeah, I mean, like that had to that had to be like nine
or ten. Yeah, it was a lot. It was so egregious that
Randy Anderson is like trying to drag Lugra out of the ring by his feet
because he wants them to hell take me the fuck out of here. Man
and Bichoff lay on the canvas as fans are throwing trash into the ring,
and Bischoff says, you know what, Hollywood, that piece of garbage thinks
he wants to get in the ring with you a bash at the beach,
and Hogan says, well, you know what, the brother, dirty dog
blood brother Dennis rod the bottle fucking signal right there. It unlocked four more
leg drops. It's gotta be one of the most egregious segments I've ever seen.
I've ever seen somebody just get completely assd blasted like that, like so
hard. And the Pyro leg drop is like legendary. You have to you
have to check that out. If you never seen the cameras dropping the leg
drop and the pyro, the cameras all out great Susan, I don't even
see. It's just like dropping the cameras crazy. Also, like the idea
that the you know, the show is just going on, like yeah,
of course the second hour, the second hour, this is where the second
hour begins. That's yeah, because it wasn't that wasn't supposed to happens.
Not only they planned on Hogan dropping twenty five leg drops on Bishop sitting cross
legged, seem punk promo style name what about the dirty dog blood Brother Dennis
Rod the bod dude told and the Giant. Well, I'm sorry, but
I'll make it up to get out of them more leg drops. Z Older,
I'm out of here. I'm going. Well, Bischoff says Luger.
Giant. You want a piece of that? You want a piece of the
Giant? What that right? Well, hot Rod, I can't wait,
hot Rod, who are you talking about? Don't you understand what he's talking
about? Here? We want Sting, dude. Sting is busy. I
don't know what he's busy doing, but he's not here, all right,
Yeah, he's in Germany. He's chilling. And then they cut to a
milfin and n w O crop top and booty shorts and that was tremendous,
could not get enough doing no way. So yeah, we we get our
two heenans on commentary now and we start off with the JJ dillontown hall.
Yeah, I mean tell you twenty five. He came to expect it tonight.
What do we do? Lexlar's neck is fucking I don't know explain how
he's not dead, but anyway, Meijan asked JJ to address some of the
issues that face him and himself and our entire organization. So I guess last
week macho man fucking glomb JJ Dillon and took him out because he said he
had his bell rung pretty good last week and it wasn't the first time,
but he hopes it's his last. And he's in a position of authority and
he's glad he is, and there's no way he could let one more week
go without holding Randy Savage accountable. And he says there's a couple of ways
they could have looked at this. A fine I think was in order.
And if MLB can find Albert Bell five thousand dollars for an obscene gesture,
which means mean Jene tries to goes to Panamim and then stops himself. Then
I feel my recommendation of a fine to match a man of fifty thousand dollars
was appropriate in today's money. That's like two point five million dollars. Dude,
the five thousand would ruined lives in fucking today's fucking time, let alone
fifty thousand. And mean, Gene is very excited. He says, oh,
I agree with that. He'll never pick up a dinner check. Thank
you. Imagine he just says, I'm glad the committe approved my recommendation.
Why are you gonna have din it with him? And Gene? Would I
like dropping fourteen times? Why didn't Hogan's fam leg drop some more? It's
not like overrides executive committee of w c W. This is my time every
time. He could just well, because he's the hollywooded dude. Well,
JJ says he's glad the committe approved his recommendation, and uh, they were
looking at a possible suspension, but they said, ah, that feels like
maybe Macha Man wants that he would play run into his hand so he doesn't
have to wrestle at the Great American Bash. So it's not going to take
place. But this weekend at the Great American Bash. There will be a
few added sipulations, and it'll be a light's out match, no DQ,
no count out, false count anywhere in the building. And then from the
most fucked up mike ever you hear from. It sounds like a million miles
away. Where where people's tramp macho man is in the crowd And he says,
oh yeah, and me, she says, where, I'm still trying
to find it. So yeah, I've got one hundred thousand dollars. That
says, fifty thousand dollars, speak on it, speak on it, fifty
thousand dollars for this week when I come down there and do it again.
So he's increasing his own fine because he's got to beat up J. J.
Dellen Well. A fucking guy in a trench coat rights the ring.
I'm not sure he's here. All I know is I say, dd says,
kill that music. Hey, big mouth, you're a real tough guy,
aren't you smacking around an old man like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
fifty thousand dollars one another's so funny together a home guggin fucking leg josuet
over here? Where where where is he? Where are DDP calls fucking JJ
dollon an old man and I cannot do that. You mist mentioned. You
can see Jurassic slap ass. You can see mean Jean look at JJ and
laugh what he says that. Uh ddps, I see you got the time
right now. I say, here's the place. Let's do it right now,
Come on, Savage snap into it. And Macho Man is not happy.
He said, there was the dumbest move you've ever made. Your time
is has to fight through an unbelievable ground of people where he ends up at
the guard rail with a ribbed shirt like. The crowd kicks his ass all
the way to the fucking ring and Macho Man jumps the rail and then DDP
jumps off the apron as Macho Man is diving at him. So it's a
crazy just smashed together. They're fighting and security tries to break them up.
A lot of brawls on this show. But I like it. I like
it too, especially coming into the next show, like they all felt different.
They were all different enough to I was like, oh cool, okay,
they should be fighting each other. I mean they're about to go into
the paper view, why not yeah exactly. But it wasn't like the same.
It wasn't like the same is fifty thousand, fifty more thousand one?
I want fifty thousand quick and fifty more thousand ready? Estavage. Man,
he is, he is, he is. He has to be a wrestler,
like you can't. He can't do anything else is he going to do?
Think about Macha man in the game with the hair. The hair in
the game is like crazy. The hit they did him, real dirty crazy
man. That was a whole different fucking guy. Unbelievable. Uh so we
get the hundred collect Lee Marshall moment of the night here he calls in awesome.
Yeah, he calls it for Chicago, Illinois, And how are you
doing in Chicago? It's very cold? Yeah, putnad of these shows out
here, man, get yours out here? What the fuck? I love
the idea of him going to the next town before they get there, so
he could tell everybody the cool places to go to when they come to this
show. Always gotta scout it out, make sure it's good for the fans,
of course, and it always is. For some reason. It's perfect.
He's never called in and said, I'm in Philadelphia. Wow, this
fucking sh don't come here. I looked at his card. Who yeah,
wow, Terry bronks on this one. Now he's not we just took him
off. Oh that's good, he's all. He also goes on a tangent
about TV journalists here. That's which I didn't I don't know if it was
that a reference to somebody or is that a w F thing. I actually
have no idea. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe if somebody knows.
Yeah, he said, Chicago is the home of t journalists with integrity and
backbone, and they'd rather quit their jobs than have their product compromised by some
self serving tabloid hack. You hear that, Alan Gore. Yeah, when
local TV journalists heard that Bobby Heman was coming to town, sixteen of them,
including Jerry's springer, resigned. Oh something weird happened where Like I don't
know if they cut the middle of his sentence or what happened here, But
he says, now Chicago, they called the wind cock they call the wind
caught him real hard in the back of the head. He's just on a
payphon. That's the idea, is that he's not a payphon calling in using
she had a different town. Yeah, that's insane, like he goes to
the town like a weekend, a week This is a pay per view between
this, Yeah that's awesome. So yeah we get Jeff Jarrett versus Dean Malinko
US title match here Jeff Jarrett. Debra comes out here eventually, by the
way, with a bouquet of roses, and she said, I know you'
all been looking for me. I finally made it all right earlier I've been
looking. Yeah, you know, Kevin greened you and all that. I
remember that I was much when when when Jared came out here is ship zooms
in on this fucking kid's face like real crazy. Yeah, yeah, eight
year old. I wasn't crazy about this match, but the second half I
enjoyed. Yeah. I thought it was a well told match and everything.
I think that the switch made sense and everything, especially with Eddie coming back
got there. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that there wasn't
a lot of heat going into it, but by the back end there was.
I wasn't expecting the title change. Yeah, you know, Eddie going
into the feud with Malinko to win the title, but I don't really know
what they had planned or what is the title on the line. Switch involved
the titles not involved in the pay per view, So yeah, I think
most of the US title was like a TV thing anyway, it was like
the TV title shore. I mean they also had a TV title too,
so that's so true. That is true, But I uh yeah, I
didn't like the first half of the match was just you know, yeah,
so, I mean, well, it was like it's like one of those
matches, and this was a match that they had a lot back in the
day where like every single thing they did this match made absolute sense. It
just made sense. Everything was a natural progression to get there. But it's
not like it was like super exciting in any regard and like his mid card,
so it's not like Malinko and Jared are like super super over. Like
Milinko was probably more over when he was like opening the shows as US Champion
than he was in the middle of the card Jared match, especially because Milinko
has some fucking crazy moves off the top, gutbuster on the fucking like fucking
crazy and well, speaking of crazy moves, halfway through this match, Jared
just randomly tombstone. That was awesome. Well I thought it was gonna because
like Malko loves to do the tombstone reversal spot he used to do a lot.
Yeah, he's gonna reverse it, no, Jared, I was like,
wow, ship, that was awesome. H Malinko gets loaded up onto
the top rope by Jarrett and the crowds looking. Everyone's like starting to stand
and look away. I said, over there, Eddie Guerrero in a sling
climbs over the guard d I feel like I've seen Eddie Garrero in a sling
a lot. Okay, yeah, he wf He immediately gets a sling,
he spends. Yeah, yeah, well he got He climbs the guardrail.
Deborah distracts the ref standing on the apron. Eddie was injured by Dean Malinko.
I'm not sure what it was, but obviously gives a fucking arm injury.
Well, Eddie gets on the top rope, takes off the sling,
frog splashes Dean Malenko and gets out of there. So I guess Eddie is
is back and that is all right now. Yeah, they're pretty excited he
had the frog splashing. Goddamn work, boots. It was fucking awesome.
It was fucking awesome. Deborahads Jared a cup of water and Jared launches it
at the crowd for some reason to splash it in his face or something like
wake him up, and then Jared just grabs it from her and then just
blash his fucking face when she grasdamn all right, throw it. She was
gonna wake him up, but he just like, wy, you give you
water, No water, no water. Jared gets up, he realized Malinko's
down and puts Malanco in the figure four Blanko starts like I thought Milco was
actually gonna get out of it because he started a fire back up. But
then he taps out right. He taps out right after Bobby he Need on
a commentary says he's not gonna tap out. He never taps out. The
taps out. Ship. Yeah, I don't know what they meant to do
that in that regards, it was awesome. I thought that was good.
Yeah, good finish. Here, Jarwin's the US Heavyweight Championship's in a silly
ass fucking JJ outfit, and Ship dudea smacked as oh my god, unbelievable.
Bro. So next up we get the Jimmy Hart town Hall and he's
here to talk about Crispin Wah, which is great. Yeah, it's a
ming and the Barbarian come down here too. They are the faces of fear.
Yes, that's yeah, that's right, and mean Jeans says, you
promise a surprise? What about it? And Jimmy Hart says, what you
wish for because might just become true. Let me introduce you your third and
final step and the music hits. Jimmy points to the stage and outcomes Kevin
Sullivan and Jacqueline Strange very round. Well you know me, and Jean says,
where have you been Sullivan? And Kevin Sullivan says, well, I
haven't been in the Fleet Center and I haven't been in Boston. Dude,
Okay, that's what's been why heel he's in the four horse Work, So
like did he just he's I can't be a heel in Boston because it's my
hometown. He definitely took liberties with that. Do you think anyone, like
anyone even fucking knew he was from Boston until he said this is my home?
Last? What the fuck? Yeah? Beat this. Dude's out forever.
He said, I'm still alive because it's been a long time since I
crossed that river and I made it to the wrestling business, and I want
to thank my people that are home home with me, says Listen, Man,
what the fuck you should have just falled him out of that. Why
are you baby facing the crowd right now? Yeah? I thought you're an
asshole this story well, he said me. Jesus, what does that mean
for Crispin Wand Kevin says Jimmy Hard. I never ask any man to do
my fighting for me, but I see the paper he've ben Wa. Yeah,
what is taking on the baddest man in the planet in the planet meng
and Jimmy Hart. You gotta stand back. Please please stan the medium size,
he says Ben wh I know you're in the building. Let's not drag
this out any further. What else are you gonna take from my soul?
Well, you ain't gonna take from me in my hometown, take my home
home. Fuck this guy, shut the funk up. Well, Ben wa
is not Bobby Shout the really saw his erry. They boot him. That's
crazy. Runs out here. They start brawing big style, just Sullivan and
Ben wah for a minute. Then Jacqueline Jackie back up, please back up
jack Well they do interfere. Men pulls Jacqueline off, but then puts their
tongue in death grip on ben Wa and then they just all start stomping like
no one else in the Horsemen are gonna help this dude. You just know
him like that, not in Boston at all. Yeah, dude, I
loved I love seeing them stop this dude down the left to Jimmy Hart stopping
him. Crazy for all of us. So we go to the main event
of the evening. Of course, it's Kevin Nash and Scott Hall versus Rick
Flair and Roddy Piper. Come on down, come on down here. Well,
this is the match we watched the show for, because this match is
what leads to all the trouble that happens. After the show, Nash comes
out with Hall and looks at the camera and says, I haven't watched my
hair in two weeks. Fucking New World. Someone home, dude. Someone
throws a full fucking drink at Flair and he just whips his head back and
goes, whoo. I'm sure that happened every fucking week for three weeks.
Well, it seemed to happen a ton, which I I don't Why is
that a lost art throwing drinks at wrestlers? Sh Yeah, throwing trash I
guess was a very w CW thing. Was there ever a trash throwing ship
and w w F I'm sure back like in n water Bottles with Jeff Ja.
Oh my god, Yeah, I do remember that. That's what I
remember. There was a lot of our Venus matches where I was throwing ship
the screen TV. I don't know if it made it to the arena or
not, but I was hoping people would do it for me. I was
rubbing Texas chainsaw dry rubble over my screen when he came on to the TV,
so would have to see them deadlock chickens. So yeah, all right,
So the fight backstage is the big takeaway from all of this ship Roddie
did not want to work with Nascott Hall six O Pock whatever the case.
Yes, but he did, and that's what it is. So I will
say this, Uh, seeing these guys in the ring together, you know,
sometimes it's easy to forget how huge Kevin Nashes got to stay next to
normal people big fuckers dud. Yeah, when you see him in then to
be like Hulgan and stuff, it's like they're the same height thumble so but
they're huge. Yeah. Man, the match does they do nothing, which
is classical because you know, I'm not gonna give you another free TV.
These guys are not going to give you a free TV, you know.
So the match gets thrown out after Flare and six Pack are fighting on the
outside, they get into the ring and fucking Devalves do beat down. Uh,
and the beatdown actually turns into a fucking full roster explosion, which is
christ insane. Dude. It stops being even about like picking a side of
n W against horsemen, like dudes are just coming out here to fight.
Yeah, yeah, it was awesome. So Devals beat down, the horsemen
come in, Mango, Ben Wad, Jarrett fucking that's right, jaredon the
Wars. Uh, they had got damn Scott Norton, buff Bagwell come out
here, Kevin Kevin Kenny, Kevin Greeney runs out and Nash immediately fucking stops
what he's doing and goes right for off. You know, get these pictures
full W's style. They're ringing the bell crazy this whole time, straight minutes,
They're ringing that bell. Yeah that was crazy. It's unbelievable, but
it was because it was real. So yeah, Harlem Heat come out Booker
fucking gets wrecked by Scott Steiner, just fucking delroyed shit, dude, Harlem.
He just walked to the ring like they really they were just kind of
out there when they came out to you though. They did, but they
didn't seem like they were real gonn get involved. They were just kind of
walking on the ring to figure out something. And then yeah, the Steiners
annihilate them from behind and kill them. JJ Dillon comes out with the cops,
which I don't think ever get involved. Then I see it lit Glacier.
Yeah, they look at the Glacier. I see in the background.
I said, what the fuck, dude, Glacier and mortis kicking the ship
out each other going on over here, dude, dude and raf and they
never make it to the ring. It's just Mortison Wrath beating up the Glacier
and eye. The competators don't even see what's going on because I think Booker
t and them are fighting over there. The competators have no idea that Glacier
and Mortison rather are here fighting. It's like I like that he's like scared
for his life. He's like, I can't find my I can't find my
broadcast partners. But yeah, I don't know where supposed to do, Like
do we do? We just get out of Here's like they're coming over here,
They're coming over here. I was like, wow, this is awesome.
He didn't see that. He's got out of here. That's it.
Just get out of here. Yeah. So Macho Man comes down to the
ring. At the end of course, this leads to d d P and
the trench Coat chasing him in and then they get into a fight here.
Johanne says, many of the stars of Mexico are out here. I never
saw any of them. Mortis Glacier, Kevin Kevin Sullivan, and Mangan Barbarian
hit the ring. They start fighting with Ben Wall of Yeah, Macho Man
hits the ring, helps six stomp out Flair. D DP gets and jumps
Macho Man for a big pop. D DP hits a styles clash on Macho
Man. Yeah, d d P. D DP gets in the ring to
n WO see him being a Macha Man's man over here. We can do
I don't know, is it not working? Hogan is out here now hey,
he starts hitting people with the n w A title now like drum sadly
ran out of those and dude, the coolest ship. This is cool every
time. I don't care, it's cool. Awesome time Sting comes down from
the ceiling, dude and the crowd goes absolutely batshit and he he descends down
and lands right on top of DV. It was laying on the floor outside
now, but he at first I thought it was Bischoff. I at first
too, I thought he was kidnapping Bishoff, which would have been awesome.
Or maybe he does do that. That was DDP. No, I'm saying
eventually, like, does he do that? I'm sure, Yeah, I'm
sure he does do that at some point, which is awesome. Yeah,
he lands on top of DDP. He points to the back at the end
of you in the ring and tries to keep him like inside the ring.
Macho man keeps fucking cheesing the top rope like he's gonna jump to the outside,
which is tremendous. Nash goes outside. Eventually as the Scott Norton.
They all get beat up with that. Sting beats the ship out of them
with the bat. He's like lighting them up. Sting eventually hooks himself back
up to the harness, then hooks DDP by his pants on the harness and
they send it into the rafters together. This is crazy, man. Yeah,
I was like, this is awesome. The crowd's losing it, the
nWo is pissed. I said, this is the coolest way to end the
show ever. And the last thing you see is Hogan looking at the fucking
ceiling. Wow, what a great way to in the show. Yeah,
I loved that. I thought that was fantastic. Yeah, man, very
cool. Sting is awesome. What a nice guy ever right now. But
if you would only get a tan, then maybe you could have a one
body a little brother. Yeah man, what a what a fun show though,
dude, Yeah, I thought this was awesome. That very good show.
That was a really good like go home pay per view show because like
everyone fighting, the end was just they overdo this in WW, like the
post brawl, you know at the end of the show, we got we're
out of time. They they've done that a million times, but this is
probably one of the better ones they've ever done. Just everyone that has preview
matches going after each other. Absolutely. So now let's talk about some backstage
drama. Oh yeah, so on the W side, it was actually a
worked match in the ring that precipitated the real problems. Flare and Piper were
wrestling Hall and Nash in a non title match. The early part of the
match consisted of Flare and Hall brawling in one corner and Piper and Nash in
the other. Nash claimed that Piper wasn't doing what they agreed upon doing,
although Nash also didn't appear to want to sell much for Piper. Match storyline
was that Piper would work and sell the match, leading the Flair's hot tag.
However, Piper looked horrible and even with the star power, the match
was killed and was well into the negative stars. Piper also called for the
finish early, about six minutes into the match scheduled for twelve minutes, by
the way, which meant the post match brawl to end the show literally lasted
forever, so that's why that went on somewhat. They probably like, get
the fuck out, just walked out to attack. After the show went off
the air, it was Hogan and Savage and not Hall and Nash who remained
in the ring to brawl with Flare and Piper and for Flare and Piper to
clean house on and Piper ended up in the ring holding the WW Heavyweight tag
team and Cruisery belts in the air while Flair finished the fight holy. After
the show, Nash went to Piper's private dressing room and knocked on the door
very hard. Apparently there was heat between Creig Malley, Piper's bodyguard, who
was the guy who did the boxer gimmick in the famous Piper Team skit opened
the door. Nash basically pie faced Piper, which is throwing something of a
palm blow and shoving him to the wall just so you know, I don't
know it hit Dogs. Team Piper tried to kick the Nash's bad knee before
Mallie and Rick Flair, who were there with Piper, acted as peacemakers and
quickly broke it up before anything serious took place, but also leaving the heat
between the two unresolved. According to the two versions of the story, Nash
and Malley did nearly go at it as well, but Mally, who obviously
who was obviously much smaller, back down. Most of the internal heat with
WW was on Piper for not doing what they had agreed to do in the
ring and then calling for the finish early in making the show ending Brad go
so long it totally lost focus as well, which by the way, was
awesome, so it worked. Yeah. There have been problems with the Wolfpack
and Flair and Piper stemming from the beginning of the hype of the six man
tag in Charlotte, where Flare and Piper didn't want Six in the match,
feeling he wasn't a big enough star, and where Kevin Greeney didn't want to
turn on Flair as the company wanted, so Kevin Greeney was supposed to join
the Nwoo. Wow, what the fuck? At one point the entire match
was in jeopardy because Piper didn't want his team to lose, which was the
original plan, and since he has creative control of his programs, I didn't
know Piper had Greham control well. Asked to do a singles match with Six,
who he liked personally and thought he could prove he could still work,
and felt he needed to prove it to some of the wrestlers who saw him
as some one existing totally off his past made name by having a good match
with him. The compromise was reached where the NWA team agreed to not only
do the job, but not have Six to it because that would be the
predictable finish, but instead of all three basically do the job at the same
time to show that they were more professional of the two teams. Company feeling
in WW seems to be that hopefully everyone will be professional and the match at
the pay per view won't be ruined. After that point, they all be
programmed in different direction and Piper will be feuding with Flair to him away from
Hall and Nash, so those problems in the ring recording selling like that won't
be an issue. And then I have another thing here from June twenty third,
ninety seven Observer that says, as far as the Nash Piper situation on
June ninth, a few clarifications. Apparently, Nash kicked the door down of
Piper's dressing room and started screaming and swearing at him about the match before they
did the shoven kick deal. So yeah, crazy, uh crazy a Piper
and Nash, Like you said, how fucking tall Nash is in big compared
to Piper. It's just crazy thing. But Piper's a scrappy dude. He
was taking out his fucking sh dude. Yeah Flair, I mean Flair also,
Yeah, Flair hated Walman or you didn't. He didn't hate him,
He just thought he was he was shitty like all the other guys were to
him. He just didn't think he was a big enough start to be in
the ring with them. That's pretty much it. Like, yeah, that's
crazy, it's called the Piper wanted to work with him though, Yeah,
because I you know, I mean, the truth is Walman was just the
bump dummy for the team. So like he was Winny guy, take some
crazy ass bumps and he'll do it too. Yeah man. But yeah,
like fucking I I wish I wish some of the stuff was filmed. Yeah,
me too. It would have been awesome. So yeah, Piper had
had a pipe podcast. It was called Piper's Pit back in the day.
Oh yeah, that's right. He said that he, you know, him
and Kevin Aske got into a fight. He said it was backstage politics because
the nw O guys were trying to run rough shot over the business brother.
Piper said that they had a horrible match, and Kevin Nash doesn't know how
to work. He said, maybe he's a good basketball player. I don't
know. He didn't make it there either, Oh my god. Piper said
that before the match took place, both groups got together to plan how things
would play out. Uh, the idea was they get heat on Piper,
leading to a hot tag, and Flair would clean house on him and they'd
do a post match brawl afterwards. And they say he sat in the back
of Piper and Rick, and Rick said, no matter what we do tonight,
we can't start this angle, we can't start the match hot as we'll
have nowhere to go for the pay per view. So he said, we
all agreed, and we kind of got an idea what we were going to
do. And when we out there, when we went out for there for
the match, Piper attacked and it was like the exact opposite of what they
did discussed. So like Nash is like on what Nash thought they said and
what Piper thought they said was like two different things completely right. So like
Kevin Nash thought that they were gonna like not do this Piper like hot start,
and then like they did and it was just like the opposite damn Yeah.
And then he said, came to my I came to my dressing room
after the match. Piper says that he came in his dressing room and he
said, fifteen feet from the door, and Fishoff is in there and he's
getting on his feet and taking his laces out, and then the door gets
kicked in and Kevin Nash is standing in the doorway and he says, well,
you did you're running things around here? I felt yeah, he said,
he's the paper said I stopped because they had an answer for him.
So I just got up and I charged him and leg died him and throw
about the Jesser room. He said, he double like them out of the
room, the jetser room, and Piper said that several people broke it up
and they carried Dash away from the locker room. And he said that Nash
was being taken away and he was pointing to me because he was set to
fight him at the Great American Bash. And he says, uh, I'll
see you at the bash. I'll see you at the bash. Kevins carried
away by the way, I see they carry a seven foot dude away from
him after a double leg again. So so Kevin Dash tells like a completely
different story. Apparently he said I did not get a leg dived and I
did not get thrown out of the dressing room. So, according to Kevin
Nash he attacked Piper after Roddy jumped out of his seat in the locker room,
and that said that he anticipated that Piper would go in for the attack.
So yeah, Pie faced it with that open hand, pomp. Piper
did nothing because he didn't want any part of Kevin Nash. And I said
it turned into a clusterfuck. And when I when we got to the back,
I was in the locker room and Hogan stirred me, and I went
in there just to confront Roddy, like, what the fuck you think it
out there? Up? Yeah, dude, you can't take it for that
dude, nobody, brother, rip his kilt off and kill him with it.
Dude, run this thing, dude, w w W for everybody beat
upper about it, and I will, brother, maybe you should, so
Nash said he could. NA said, Roddy jumped up like he was gonna
come at me, so op and smacked him and I smacked them and that
was it. I knocked him down. And as you can believe it,
Roddy Viper said NASA's story is fake, and NA said Piper's story is fake.
And then the Great American Batge's paper you took place in lashing Hall defeated
Flair and Piper and everyone was professional the match and there are no further altercations.
So now I have to ask you who started? Do you believe?
I don't know? Man like right, I mean, yeah, I mean
like Kevin Nashes probably makes a little more sense. I stirred him up about
it. Yeah, like that seems like I feel like the Meltzer version where
he barged in, pie faced him, Piper was kicking out his fucking leg
and then they got broken apart feels like the real story, just because that
seems more relistic than Nash coming in and slapping Roddy Piper. I want,
okay, I want to be personally, I'm believing the Piper one from now
on. He started out the room. That's that's a good storyline, TV
fantastic, busting into the room having pre calculated that Piper was going to try
to double leg him, so he open hand slapped him to the floor.
He was also insane, Okay, So there There was actually more comments on
Twitter in April of twenty fourteen about this. By the way, yeah,
I didn't even see this before. This is crazy. So here are Nash's
comments. He said, Piper is a deranged old fool. He got bitch
slapped to the floor. Holt Pack, Scott and Eric were in the room.
He said, you gotta let it go. Rod, you guys want
to come on my podcast? And then he said, he said, would
would you strike fear in his face? At my side? You realize you're
playing the bully. I was bullied as a six ten, two hundred and
twelve pound fourteen year old kid. He said, fier year old bitch and
a liar. I respect for you, but no more. I know this.
I snicher pitch as to the ground. Never after, dude, dude,
I've tweeted that at people many times. He said, I'm not shooting
at eagle. Have had these tweets sit to me. You can't take the
high road with a bitch. What dire the give respects that deal with me?
He's hot, rocking heavy on his podcast. It's that easy, he
said, what's his podcast? Hanged this dude does? He's off my radar.
These are crazy fucking tweets. Shit, he said, do you do
you respond when a man says you're a liar and a cunt? Or go
on in your own go stay with him? Ten feet of me, bitch.
Specific said, just just take care of the situation Detroit style Twitter shit.
Oh Jude. Sean Waltman chimed in on Twitter too. He said,
on the life of my children, Roddy is bald faced lying to say that
because I love you, Roddy, he said. Nash kicked the door in
and everyone ship Flair was more concerned about it, not having to do with
him. He said, the bodyguard tried to get between you. You said
something to him, he stepped aside. Then you proceeded to open handslap Roddy
because he's out of place and went in to business for himself. Cause you
to re injure your knee. He said, I remember one second you heard
the locker room pissed. The next second caused you to reinjur your knee in
that cluster fuck. He said, I'll give him credit for a nice leg
sweep that came in a bit short. He called you a liar over the
description of the incident. Not no one wanted to a piece, he said,
wait to back up your wing man nature, There're only three of us.
You're out numbered. You cut the bodyguard. Holy Ship, that is
fucking crazy man, Piper tweeted back to him. Piper said, don't degrade
your status with such language. There's kids on here, have some class.
You're welcome on my podcast, hot Rod and Nash said, set it up,
follow me, we'll exchange numbers. There's a whole lot more for you
to worry about on Twitter than bad language. Don't degrade your status with stories
of you ever standing up to me. You're the coward. Saw it in
you eyes when I smacked you. You're a bit the ground around cut.
Wow, that's crazy, man. I completely forgot that that tweet was to
Roddy Piper. I know for so long. Wow. Yeah, Piper fucking
fucked him up. Now, in the other side of things, there was
a big fight on the WWF side that I think we might as well talk
about here, because why the fuck will we watch that role. The problems
in the WWF were even more spectacular with the incident that took place approximately seven
to twenty pm we got time stage seven to twenty pm in Michael's dressing room,
were resulting in both Heart and Michael's not appearing on the live show from
Hartford, Connecticut that they were originally both supposed to be on. Apparently the
problems escalated before the show on June ninth, as both were meeting in long
personal conversations with Vince McMahon to the point that McMahon was having little time to
converse with anyone else regarding details and attention to the ensuing live television show.
Heart wound up going into michaels dressing room and two began arguing. There were
eyewitnesses to this which basically said they argued and started fighting and it was quickly
broken up. Most versions Having that Heart was screaming about how Michael's comments affected
his personal life, which I'm pretty sure is the days shit. Ah yeah,
yeah, you were saying that he fox on the on TV, which
is crazy. Yeah, that's graaz. The two one with most versions Having
that Heart started it, but Michael's was every bit as guilty in precipitating it.
It was believed to have been a one sided short tussle which resulted in
a few punches thrown and a large clump of Michael's hair being pulled out of
his head, to the point it was described that Michaels was given a major
bald spot, which he had for a fucking ever after this Michael's face was
all puffed up from punches and he was bleeding from the elbow, apparently from
being thrown to the floor. Heart apparently aggravated his recently repaired knee, but
none of the injuries were serious. Agents Jerry Briscoe and Pat Patterson and some
other wrestlers quickly broken up with Heart on top of Michael's pounding on him and
Brisco's and Heart argued loudly back and forth in another room for a long time
before Heart finally left the arena at eight thirty pm without appearing on the TV
show. Michaels was blown up from the fight and a little worse for wear,
but not injured to the point he couldn't have appeared on the television show.
Michael's was scheduled direct so Brian Pillman in the main event of the TV
show, doing the run in after the Hard Foundation were scheduled to jump Austin
as he was coming down the aisle for the match. The Austin versus Pilman
match that had been hyped up all a week was canceled because the Austin injured
his right knee. Meltzer says the good one by landing on it wrong coming
off the top rope during a spot in the previous night's match with Michael's.
The knee was swollen so badly to the point they decided to keep him out
of the ring on the June ninth show, although he's willing and got it
out doing the match, but they didn't want him getting hurt anymore. To
add and didn't want him getting on the list of more fucking guys that are
injured. At the time, Michaels was going crazy after the predicament and said
that he would never work against anyone in the Hard Foundation because he couldn't trust
them. He ended up walking out of the building, claiming that he wouldn't
work or stay in this kind of environment just before the show was scheduled to
go on air at seven fifty seven pm. Other performances claimed as he left
the building that he was screaming about how he was quitting and that if he
could make it to Boston, where Nitro was being done live on time,
he'd just go as soon as he could. At that point, the entire
time Elevant show had to be scrapped and a new show together literally minutes before
they went on air. Shawn Michaels and his father had a meeting with McMahon
at McMahon's request on May eighteenth to air out their problems, so obviously this
was before this, at which time Michael's told him man that he wanted out
of his contract to go to w CW and McMahon claimed that Michael told him
if he went to ww I could be set for life. McMahon refuse to
let him out of his contract. Yeah, fuck yeah, fuck yeah,
I didn't know that. I didn't realize how close he was to going.
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean boys are there and they got a
lot of money over there. Yeah, he definitely used just use that though,
you know what I mean, like hell to get more money there.
Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. A couple more things here from June twenty third,
ninety seven Observer. After a week in which it appeared the future of
Seawan, Michaels and the w WF was uncertain in the week of a legitimate
backstage fight with Brett Hart, it now appears Michael's will be returning in a
few weeks. Michael's thirty one had cussed out Vince McMahon, which is it's
just funny think that Michaels is thirty one here, I'm thirty one now,
and I'm fucking hanging out with Skeletal or mister fun Legends. You're set for
life. You hang out with those two guys, That's what I've heard.
Michael's thirty one, had cussed out Vince McMahan, reportedly saying something to the
effect of I'll never work for your fucking ass again, while leaving the Hartford
Civic Center about a half hour before the live raw was beginning to start on
June ninth. Supposedly, hart and Michael's began a heated discussion, largely about
how Michael's now infamous Sunny Days remarks on TV, saying he'd gone over the
line. Supposedly, Michael's responded with a cocky what a you do about it
type of remark, which set Hard off and started the fight. Uh yeah,
fucking crazy, crazy, crazy stuff, it seems. How what are
the odds that two fights like this happened legit the same day. Yeah,
I mean like top two companies, and it's like the top guys there they
were like, you know, yeah, whatever you want to call it,
but yeah, it's pretty nuts. That is fucking you didn't have any interview
shit about that one. I imagine everyone has heard about every fucking Sean brtday.
Yeah, I don't think there that's I forgot that. That's the Sewan
just told him. Yeah, maybe I don't know. I know, Brent,
Yeah, I feel like he talked to Maybe they're filming a documentary about
it, who knows. Yeah, maybe we should watch that. Yeah.
Two very crazy nights. Sorry one sorry, one very crazy night, two
very crazy fights in progressling Just remember that bred or that Sean and Hogan could
be the same fact both Paul ticket It would be the funniest of all time.
It would have it would have been truly truly insane, hanging out with
the fucking blood brother rod Man. That right over here there you go for
the wsit niture from June ninth, nineteen ninety seven and all the Shenanigans that
went along with it. And that is it for our show. Thank you
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