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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Our good buddy, Brady Quinn, Fox college football analyst Big Noon Kickoff, will be an ann arbor for Washington in Michigan. He's also one of the hosts on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, and of course former Notre Dame quarterback Brady. Before we get started, I had somebody reach out last night late last night and they had a message that they wanted to deliver to you.

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Speaker 3: Pull him down.

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Speaker 4: Get your pants lower on your waistline.

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Speaker 2: That too damn high, Brady. Will Ferrell was not letting go of the fact that you wore your football pants too high when you played here.

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Speaker 5: You know, if playing against Southern Cow and arguably the greatest era ever with players like Reggie Bush and Matt Lionerd and lofot to two Bro all the great players that went through there during that time wasn't enough. You had to endure the heckling of Will Ferrell, who made you question everything on the sidelines, in particular your pants potentially being too high.

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Speaker 3: I've always had.

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Speaker 5: Long legs and my brother in law, aj Hawk makes fun of me all the time about it. So I'm glad this is still going on, but it was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Will didn't want to talk about the fact that this could.

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Speaker 5: Be the last time these two teams ever play, which that really started from the Southern cal side of things, And he also didn't mention anything about the game, which it leads me to believe that he's a bit concerned about his trophanes.

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Speaker 2: How do we get to this point where this rivalry may go away?

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Speaker 3: Southern Child joined the Big Ten.

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Speaker 5: You know people, I think through COVID, and this was like a bigger topic, but everyone kind of looked to like just protect themselves, and universites in particular, I think looked out and said, there's a changing landscape in college football. I think they knew that nil was on the horizon, and they started realizing that the athletic department is going to take a hit and we better be well funded if we want to be able to continue on this course of maintaining as many Olympic sports that we provide for both men's and women's sports, as well as still being able to provide our football and men's women's basketball teams with the resources that they need. And so this forced you know, certain teams I think to look for safe harbor. And in the case of Southern Cal, they obviously, along with UCLA and Oregon in Washington, enjoyed the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: How big of a game is this for both of these teams?

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Speaker 5: It's an elimination game in my mind. I mean, obviously Notre Dame can't afford another loss. This is the toughest to point up to play the rest of the schedule. That goes without saying for Southern Cal, though, I think because of the rest of their schedule, if they lose this one, they're a two loss team. You still got to play Nebraska, who's much improved under that role, and Dylan Ryle with the steps they've taken.

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Speaker 3: Then you got to play at Oregon.

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Speaker 5: I think if you drop either one of those two games, you're probably not playing the Big Ten Championship and nine in threes.

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Speaker 3: Not good enough to get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: So not only that, like is it an elimination game for them in that sense, but also I think after the recent firing of James Franklin, it makes you look at where Southern col is at with Lincoln Riley, and when you look at the tenure, and I know a lot of people have compared it to Clay Helen when he first got there, but the reality is they're pretty similar. And Clay Helen had a Roles Bowl win, he had a conference championship. Lincoln Roley's not being able to get any of that done. Maybe this is that year. You know, last week was a huge win for them. I think from the standpoint of they were able to beat a team in a physical manner that they really hadn't shown at least this season and maybe throughout the course of Lincoln Riley's tenure at Southern col So maybe they're trying to build off that momentum. They feel like this is the season to take that next big step. But if not, it's not just about the playoff and this year I think it's about like, where's this program heading into Lincoln Riley in the future.

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Speaker 2: How often, well, certainly this time of the year, the bush push come up in a game that you were there and you thought you had scored the game winning touchdown. Liner talked about this earlier in the week, that he had a fumble and they went out of bounds. If it doesn't, then the game is over. Fourth down, you know, pass to Dwayne Jarrett and then you had you know, Reggie and Liner with the bush push.

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Speaker 3: It kills up.

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Speaker 5: I mean there's obviously like I feel like everyone in the world watched that game. I don't know what the ratce were, but everyone was either like at that game or watched that game or at this point, I think I've met everyone who attended that game, because that's when a lot of people come up and say they're like, oh's that the Bush Push game. I'm like, really, I was like, I feel like at this point there was like, you know, eighty million people who are there, but look it was. It was an incredible atmosphere, the build up for that game, the drama behind it. You know, I remember that week and you're on campus now, so it's a Thursday, and it usually starts to pick up for home games, but that week, it was like on Tuesday, you know, you had people who are coming in town to visit campus and to prepare for what was a huge matchup versus the number one team at Timouadden you know, was the back to back national champion and like the Dylan Pep rally on South Quad was huge. You know, I was giving out Linard's hotel information and the phone number there. We gave up the the itinerary for when the bus got there to the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Were you giving hotel room?

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Speaker 5: I was trying to I didn't get a hotel room, but we had the number for the hotel.

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Speaker 3: And so I figured they're Notre Dame kids.

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Speaker 5: They're smart enough to figure out how to get individual room numbers to start calling around. But there was a good contingent of fans there when they pulled up to the stadium, and that will tell you that they had that bus rocking back and forth. And he tries to say, oh, no, that was us. We were all hyped up inside. I got us excited, but it was it was as crazy of an environment as I've ever seen Notre Dame really, you know, being especially considering the PEP rally was in the stadium.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we have like.

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Speaker 5: Forty thousand people halfway filled up that bowl for the PEP rally the night before, and the green jerseys and the grass was grown out and everything that went along with it. So you know, it's unfortunate it ended the way it did that. You know, I don't play, and I want to set the record straight, you know, I would hope that if I was the type of quarterback dan that couldn't get in on a quarterback snake on my own that my running back would.

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Speaker 3: Help me too.

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Speaker 5: I would hope if if I was that type of guy. And now I'm not that type of guy, but if I was, I would hope my running back would help me too. So I've never really blamed Reggie and Matt for that. You know, it's it was illegal pack ten officials. You can't expect him to call it even to play before how they officiated that mean, it.

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Speaker 3: Was what it was. But they were a great team.

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Speaker 5: That was that was We watched their Arizona State game that week because Charlie Weiss Sore, as a head coach at the time, want us to see like how special Reggie Bush was. Like our entire team sat and watched that game, and you know, he was the greatest college football player that I'd ever seen, and obviously in that game too, he was truly special.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Brady Quinn, Fox college football analyst. He'll be an ann Arbor Washington at Michigan. You know, this is kind of a sneak. He must win for Michigan coming off the loss against USC and you still got a couple of big games on their Big Ten schedule, So what do you expect out of this game?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've not been a fan of how Michigan each week has kind of rolled out this offense that it feels like they're still trying to figure out their identity. I mean, obviously Haines and running back has been fine, but with Bryce Underwood is talented as he is as a freshman, it feels like they haven't really found that rhythm of how they can consistently get him into a groove early in games throwing the football.

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Speaker 3: He's such a special.

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Speaker 5: Talent that that's concerning for me. I hated how they opened up last week versus Southern cal I think that played into a little bit of how that game got.

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Speaker 3: Away from them, and then this week you have a similar team.

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Speaker 5: Tamal Williams Junior is one of the best quarterbacks in the country that we don't talk about enough that you only as special.

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Speaker 3: He can make plays with his legs, he can make all the throws.

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Speaker 5: May'be got some talent to Coleman and running back Boston on the outside, Like there's some legit weapons and you know, I think the same.

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Speaker 3: Conversation I just said about Lincoln Riley with Scharme Moore.

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Speaker 5: If they dropped this one, I think he's what eleven and eight over the past couple of seasons. Don't you start kind of questioning, like, what what's the direction of this Michigan program after winning a national championship a couple of years ago, and if not for the win over Ohio State, you know how much equityes Shroon Moore really have within that program.

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Speaker 3: And so I think, you know, after the firing of James.

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Speaker 5: Franklin, with the buyout and what that number is, it's put every coach unnotice at some of these blue blood programs where there's high expectations, and I think schro Moore and Michigan would would for sure fall into that category because I'm not sure they're good enough this year to beat Ohio State. Now I didn't think that last year. I mean, they were the biggest underdog ever they went into Columbus and beat him. So maybe I'll be proven wrong, but there's some big time concerned for me with Michigan right now and where that program is headed.

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Speaker 2: Who's the best football team in the state of India.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you had to do it, didn't you. You had to do it. I'll give EU their flowers. I'll give coach.

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Speaker 5: Sig and Fernando Mendoza and all their their you know players that their flowers.

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Speaker 3: They have been super impressive this year.

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Speaker 5: And and it's it wasn't just a one hit wonder, which we've seen that in years at IU. You know, we've watched so many coaches go in there they have that one great season. I mean Tom Allen had that that season with Michael PENNOCKX too, that was kind of like one to remember, and then they could never.

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Speaker 3: Capture that or build off of that.

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Speaker 5: And Kurt Signetti has done that and and now I think one of the things that goes under the radar is he's great at identifying head off it's Hammer's staff and identifying players were the right fit. You know, he brought a bunch of players with him in year one, but like this year, going and getting Fernando Mendoza, a player.

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Speaker 3: At Cow who was a good player.

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Speaker 5: But the way he's changed his trajectory and how people are talking about him now is maybe a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: We should look at it in the you know, top ten of the draft next year.

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Speaker 5: Those are the sorts of of decisions and things that he's done that it just I think it kind of I haven't been talked about enough with why they've been so successful is he's able to find and got players that fittest system that are able to execute. He plays their strengths and that play at a high level. And that was a dominant win at Oregon. Like that's a tough, talented, physical team. They went into their house, controlled that game and kind of dictated to them how that game was going to go. So I will say right now, it's Indiana, but I love what Notre Dame is doing. I love how their defense has continued to improve. And I think CJ.

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Speaker 3: Carr is a rockstar.

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Speaker 5: If you asked me to take one quarterback right now, I'm taking him over anyone in the country hands down.

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Speaker 3: And it's in bo way. It's not even close.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, why you know.

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Speaker 5: It's the tape he he has. He does everything well. Dan, Like he stepped into I mean your face. First touchdown pass was a no look touchdown in Miami, like on the road, like it like it was not thing. And he really brought his team back in that instance. Where you know he was getting knocked around. He showed a lot of toughness, showed a lot of poise, and there's just there's so many things he does so well, whether it's the timing and anticipation, how he manipulates defenses. I mean when teams plays zone coverage against him, he knows exactly where he wants to go with the football, and he's moving defenders to make throws. His downfield accuracy, I mean, you look at his air yards per attempt. I mean, it's not like they're easing him into this. He's taking chunks, he can make the off platform throws.

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Speaker 3: He can do it all.

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Speaker 5: And look, I try to watch every quarterback that's draft eligible and all the freshmen, all the top guys in the country.

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Speaker 3: Every single week.

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Speaker 5: He has been the most consistent one for me every single week.

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Speaker 3: And everyone thinks it's biased because he's an name quarterback. But it's not that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's put on the tape and watch it, and if people want to have a debate about that's fine.

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Speaker 6: Though.

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Speaker 3: Dante Moore has been great for Nanna Mendoz has been great. We talked about him.

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Speaker 5: Carson Beck's been good, but I put them right up there with the best in the country.

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Speaker 3: How old are you, I'm forty almost forty one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you've got Flacco and Aaron Rodgers who are your age, yeah or older playing tonight.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible. The icy hot boulder call it right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, everyone's just getting all icy hot up before they go out there in the field. But I think it's speech to you know, the style that still wins within the NFL, and that's still being able to play from the pocket.

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Speaker 3: Like all the things I just mentioned about CJ. Carr.

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Speaker 5: You know, those are things that when you play in the NFL, you have to be able to throw to spots. You have to be able to anticipate and have a sense of where the ball needs to be so the receiver can catch and run afterwards or get the catching yards after contact. You know, both those guys still do that. And we're in a day and age where there's a lot of quarterbacks who transition in the NFL who are a dual threat. And that's not to their detriment, but they don't get as much protection. Injury start to add up from time to time, and very similar to like you know MJ who when he initially went into the NBA. He was a high flying type player that could jump and dunk from anywhere. But as the game, you know, as your game evolves and you get older, you got to be able to kind of play down from the post where you can isolate or develop an outside shot or a mid range shot.

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Speaker 3: Same thing as a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: You have to be able to eventually play from the pocket where you're most protected and you have the best chance of surviving to play the next down. Both those guys have done that, and you know, talking to Joe Flack, what's what's most impressive about this Dan is like he's playing in different systems. It's like a different language out there, and he just got there and it's like watching him, you know.

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Speaker 3: Still go out there in the field and execute. It's so hard to do.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's like explain to someone go to your job in Spanish next week, and if you're not bilingual, it's it's incredibly difficult. So credit to both those guys. And I'm curious to see how the Icy Hot Bowl goes. I don't know it pulls anything in warm ups or there's not any like issues, you know, getting chew and from or off the bus.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you're old like that, you step off the curb the wrong way and roll an ankle.

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Speaker 2: But that's what makes what Brady did even more remarkable. It's not just playing, it's playing at a high level, super Bowl level, super Bowl MVP level at you know, forty five, and he can still play. Brady can still play now, right.

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Speaker 3: With I think so?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you look at the numbers he was putting up the end of his career and without a doubt. I mean, you put him in certain certain teams, certain situations. You want to want to to be a fire drow at the quarterback spot. But yeah, I mean, I think that's the thing is the games slowed down so much for those guys that you know, they know where the ball needs to go. It's just about their ability to physically do it consistently at such a high level.

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Speaker 2: But why can't that teach a twenty two year old to do that? Why can't I teach cam Ward or Caleb Williams or some of these younger quarterbacks to do that.

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Speaker 5: Because you're breaking habits to have been built over thousands of reps since they are probably in junior high. You know, nowadays the way football is taught is it starts in shotgun. I mean, I've got cousins now who are playing peebe football. It's like they're going out a shotgun. I'm like, all right, like this like a you know, under center, be easier, and they're like yeah, but you know when they get older, they're off to do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right.

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Speaker 5: But the reality is when you're in shotgun, you don't play so much with the game with timing and rhythm.

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Speaker 3: You know, every three.

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Speaker 5: Step, five step, seven step drop color decides with the depths and the timing of the rap progressions that you have alongside of that. When you get in the shotgun, it's tough to do that because of obviously the snap and then how you go about working your footwork. You do your best to get there, but doesn't happen. So once you then figure out the timing and rhythm, then it's about how you navigate the pocket right because that's where you're protected. So many guys who get back in shotgun, they drop back and they stay back there and then because of the pressure they get, they want to run to left or the right. Well, that's what every defense wants you to do. You cut the field in half, so you're making their job easier. And so that's why when you play from a under center, you realize you get back and then you get back up and that's your safe spot. And so there's so many little things like that that you have to break those habits and learn kind of this new hab to develop.

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Speaker 3: A new habit.

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, while I understand how to train your eyes, you know, oftentimes there are these RPO offenses where I catch the ball Dan, I'm reading one guy and then if he ever triggers, all right, I'm throwing. If he doesn't, a handing off. That's drastically different than me looking through the defense through the mic linebacker to the safeties and how they're rotating, or what the mic linebacker's doing if he's running to cover a man, or or you know what the configuration looks like pre and post snap, you know, based on your formation.

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Speaker 3: All those things aren't being taught as much anymore.

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Speaker 5: So it makes that transition, when you have to make a decision in two to three seconds really really difficult to do it consistently well at a high level.

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Speaker 2: Could you've gotten into Notre Dame if you weren't a football player. Hell no, hell no, okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean that was a hard worker.

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Speaker 5: But the kids, you say, I mean you you're you're I don't know where you're set up right a parking lot. We got a picture of the Golden domer touchdown Jesus over there where we set up at almost like you're near the stadium.

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Speaker 2: I'm about uh, well, not your arm, but like a better arm. Uh it'd probably take two throws to get to the stick. L way could get me to the stadium and set up.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good on the south side of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're perfect.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Where where's your dorm room? We were going to stop by.

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Speaker 7: Hell well, zom my dorm.

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Speaker 5: No, zomb actually shut down. So Somb Hall was my freshman, sophomore or dorm. It was kind of like the animal house type dorm. Deacon Dan came in there and man, he just put the kebash on any partying going on.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, it's not a dry campus.

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Speaker 5: So uh, you know, guys like that fun in there and they it's not even a dorm anymore.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if it was like through COVID, there wasn't some compliancy issues or something. But I ended up I end up moving to Dylan my junior year, and then I went back to see my room and they converted into like a common space. So it's not even like my dormom's even there anymore. So it's a little sad, a little sad, to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Keep your head up, Okay, I think things are gonna work out the way.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we're not going to be in ann Arbor this week.

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Speaker 5: Big New Kickoff is actually in Provo, Utah for the Holy War between.

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Speaker 3: B y U and Utah.

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Speaker 2: Todd and gave me a little misinformation there. I guess everywhere I saw listened when you guess you gave me or.

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Speaker 5: You and that was the game listed for like the last three days, that was the game that they had listed.

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Speaker 3: Well and Todd.

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Speaker 5: It's funny because we went to utaar earlier this year and Todd's the one that was talking about bed shakers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 5: You have to ask Todd after this segment, but apparently that's the thing out there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Todd.

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Speaker 2: Bed bed shakers too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I canna look that up and figure out this.

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Speaker 2: Had anything to do with real elsewise of Salt Lake City here.

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Speaker 3: It's potentially, it's possible, it's possible. Nothing I'm aware of. Nothing I'm aware of.

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Speaker 2: But safe travels to Provo and if you happen to go to Michigan state travels there as well.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 7: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Hey, go Irish too. It's a big one. It might be the last. We gotta enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: It's Brady Quinn Fox College football analysts.

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Speaker 8: Why would they go to Provo instead of a Michigan there?

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Speaker 2: Don't blame them that they're going to Provo and Michigan. So the three different things Fox, how about we take a break and then we can talk about this. Okay, that's disappointing.

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Speaker 6: Are you sure he knows where he's going? Maybe he's going to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: He's got a run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's Hannah Hidalgo, the Notre Dame junior guard, the ACC preseason player of the Year, and well she's had a star crossed, unbelievable career so far with everything that she's accomplished, and we welcome in Hannah Hudalgo, thank yourself at home. Can I get your official height and wait, or at least height seven seven? Okay, you don't lie about that.

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Speaker 9: Though, No, no, no o. I make everybody believe I'm smaller than five to six.

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Speaker 7: You know.

00:21:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good move. There a few questions that I thought of with your dad, was your coach in high school. Yes, okay. How tough was dad on you?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Extremely tough.

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Speaker 4: I mean he knew like what was in me, so like it was nothing easy. You know a lot of people do like daddy ball and things like that, like their parents take it easy on them.

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Speaker 9: But not my dad.

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Speaker 4: If I made one mistake and we were doing ten and ones, it's just sprinting up and back.

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Speaker 2: But when did he know what you had inside you?

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Speaker 9: Probably when I was like four, when I first.

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Speaker 6: Started playing basketball.

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Speaker 9: You didn't really know it kind of just assumed. I just hope for the best.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're the face of college basketball and women's college basketball this year?

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Speaker 9: Oh? I don't know. I guess if that's what everybody else thinks. I mean, I'm really here to who well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Juju's heard yeah and you you're you're the best player in college basketball and feels So.

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Speaker 9: Is that what they're saying?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 6: So, I don't know. Do you agree?

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Speaker 2: Do you think you're the best player in college basketball?

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Speaker 4: I would say there's a lot of great women basketball players out there.

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Speaker 9: If that's what everybody thinks, I don't know.

00:22:16
Speaker 2: Well, you got confidence, I do.

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Speaker 9: I do have confidence in my game, of course.

00:22:20
Speaker 2: Who do you model your game after?

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Speaker 4: I used to watch a lot of Kyrie Irving growing up, like a lot of his highlights. I also watched a lot of Airy when she was going on her little run in the collegiate level when she was here.

00:22:36
Speaker 2: So have you met Kyrie?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: I actually have not, But he's a fellow Jersey.

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Speaker 9: He is, actually yeah, yeah, he is.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good ball.

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Speaker 9: Handler, great, one of the best.

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Speaker 2: If you could play like Kyrie or Steph, who would you take?

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Speaker 9: Oh that's a tough one. I can't take both Kyrie's handles. And okay, I mean Kyrie shoots three Gary does, but I'll probably do stuff. I mean, he's unguardable with his shooting.

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Speaker 2: Are you unguardable?

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Speaker 9: I don't know. I guess we'll see.

00:23:10
Speaker 2: Well, i've seen so far in the first two. You know, and you grew up an Eagles fan.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, somewhat like a little bit.

00:23:17
Speaker 4: My dad was a big, you know, Philly sports guy, so any Philly teams was the ones that he was cheering for. So with your I didn't really know what was going on. I just knew if they won, then that was a good thing.

00:23:26
Speaker 2: What was it like though, when you went to a Notre Dame game.

00:23:29
Speaker 9: My first time. Honestly, it was amazing.

00:23:32
Speaker 4: The fans were amazing, something like I've never seen before. You know, I've been to a lot of football games on my official visits.

00:23:38
Speaker 9: But you know, the Notre Dame game was something just different.

00:23:42
Speaker 4: How many scholarship offers oh too many to count, honestly, when they started coming in by, like the dozen, I just stopped county.

00:23:50
Speaker 2: But okay, how do you sort out that you're gonna end up at Notre Dame? Because Michigan was there, I think in Ohio state was there?

00:23:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I honestly, just a lot of a feel and a lot of prayers. Me and my family prayed a lot, just that the Lord will guide us in the right direction, and we ended up here.

00:24:05
Speaker 9: On Notre Dame.

00:24:06
Speaker 2: But you started with nil I did.

00:24:09
Speaker 9: It was fresh when I got here.

00:24:10
Speaker 2: Okay, what was that experience?

00:24:12
Speaker 7: Like?

00:24:13
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was.

00:24:14
Speaker 4: It was different because now collegiate players can get agents and things like that, so it was it was really new, and it was sort of hard to navigate because it's like, okay, what's the you know, right amount? Like what do we ask for and things like that. But now that I have agents and things like that, they kind of handle.

00:24:29
Speaker 9: All that and I stuff.

00:24:30
Speaker 2: Okay, But how's that work with an agent?

00:24:33
Speaker 9: I don't know, honestly, I don't know.

00:24:36
Speaker 4: Just tell them, let them handle the tone what I like, and they kind of go go after.

00:24:40
Speaker 9: Whatever they can.

00:24:40
Speaker 2: Okay. But do you feel like a professional?

00:24:44
Speaker 4: I mean in a sense, yeah, I mean it's it's a little different, and cross players can make money off of their name, and now it's like you get pay for play, so it's it's kind of like the collegiate level.

00:24:54
Speaker 9: But I don't like to think that I'm I'm a pro because I'm still like kid in the head.

00:24:58
Speaker 2: How important is the w N?

00:25:00
Speaker 9: Extremely important?

00:25:01
Speaker 4: And you know, I think it's been my dream since I was younger to be able to play at the highest level in.

00:25:06
Speaker 2: The w The best player that you've played against in your career in high school, in high school or if you want to the first two years at Notre Dame as well.

00:25:16
Speaker 9: My best friend Madison Booker is at the best I played against.

00:25:20
Speaker 4: She's at Texas, okay, and of course Page, of course I played against her.

00:25:28
Speaker 9: She's always given us problem.

00:25:29
Speaker 2: Page was pretty good too, Oh, absolutely, Yeah, do you get yelled at by your coach? Have you graduated where you don't get yelled at?

00:25:36
Speaker 5: Oh?

00:25:36
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

00:25:36
Speaker 4: I think I get yelled at almost every day in practice. Yeah, especially when I'm trying to go for a steal and I take myself off the place.

00:25:44
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm always getting yelled at.

00:25:45
Speaker 2: But okay, So for people who maybe haven't seen you play, how would you describe it?

00:25:51
Speaker 9: I think I would say I'm fiery. I'm a dog, you know.

00:25:53
Speaker 4: Off the court, I try to be, you know, a little relaxed and more chill. But on the court, I'm screaming, yelling, just very high in.

00:26:00
Speaker 2: PAULI, would you give me the quote from a CBS morning show when Hannah was on.

00:26:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, we saw you on there last year, and you have this quiet voice for You're like, yeah, when my going against my opponent, I enjoy ripping their heart out.

00:26:11
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, explain that once you get when when does that mindset hit you?

00:26:20
Speaker 4: I think right when I walk out to the floor to do warm ups, It's like I was trying to I want to instill fear into my opponents, especially if I'm picking them up full court. I want to make them so uncomfortable I don't want to bring the ball up the floor, you know. I think that's just my mindset that I want to make my player as uncomfortable as possible.

00:26:38
Speaker 2: If you could have a steal, or you could hit a shot, what's more important to you?

00:26:45
Speaker 9: Game winning shot or game winning steel?

00:26:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough one.

00:26:50
Speaker 9: That's really tough.

00:26:52
Speaker 4: Probably probably a steal, a game winning steal. I got those a couple of times. It's just something different about locking down on defense for the game.

00:27:00
Speaker 9: Wouldn't play, but.

00:27:01
Speaker 2: You know, not everybody wants to play defense, especially now.

00:27:03
Speaker 9: Oh absolutely, that's why it's such an art.

00:27:05
Speaker 2: Okay, but when did you I'm gonna guess your dad.

00:27:08
Speaker 4: Said absolutely, Yeah, absolutely. You know I was always told that, you know, you're the smallest one on the floor. You got to bring something different, you know, because a lot of these girls have heights, so it's a lot easier for them to, you know, just be skilled.

00:27:21
Speaker 9: In one thing.

00:27:22
Speaker 4: Being smaller was like I had to be skilled in defense because I didn't know how to score over.

00:27:25
Speaker 9: Bigger, bigger girls, and so I just play like that all the time. I always saw a defense wins championships.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: I love your defense, I know you score. But I you know, when you see somebody who wants to play defense, and you gotta want to play defense. Absolutely, some people play defense, they don't want to play defense. But what would you say to kids about playing defense?

00:27:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think defense will keep you on the floor longer. You know, when you're able to lock down your defender. Coaches love that. I was always taught, you know, control what you can control. You know, you can't control if your shot is falling one game, but you can always control your defenses mindset and just taking pride and not letting anybody scrow on you.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: If you were going to play pick up and you needed it was a two one two, and I said, you could pick one of my guys here just by looks. What guy are you taking to be uh as your partner? Yeah? Just them, there's no one else. I'm sorry. That's my starting lineup, and that's my starting lineup. That's that's my fab five.

00:28:28
Speaker 9: Who can shoot? Which one can shoot? I heard you was a shooter, but I heard you didn't pass.

00:28:32
Speaker 2: So no, I don't pass. Yeah, no, I shoot, And I didn't play defense either. But if you left me open, I'm gonna take your lunch.

00:28:40
Speaker 9: Money. That's what I need. Anybody who can shooting.

00:28:42
Speaker 2: I could set picks, yeah, like that seating in the upper right. It can shoot. Yeah, he can shoot. Marvin is kind of our James Harden left hand or he can be he can be good and he and be bad and he doesn't pass either. And you don't want Todd at all?

00:29:05
Speaker 1: Why is that?

00:29:07
Speaker 5: I know I only go left, but I've got that nice, inconsistent hook shot from there.

00:29:10
Speaker 2: I got that Kareem thing though, and once in a while goes in. Uh, do you watch the championship game? You know, not playing in a championship game, but do you watch those games? Can you watch somebody else play basketball?

00:29:23
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:29:23
Speaker 4: I can watch other people play basketball. But if we just lost in the in the tournament, then I don't watch.

00:29:31
Speaker 2: Too painful?

00:29:32
Speaker 9: Oh yeah absolutely.

00:29:33
Speaker 4: It's like dang, like, what have been different to get in this position? And it's just like I'd rather go be in the gym.

00:29:39
Speaker 2: But what game do you replay in your mind or keeps you up at night? Is there one that keeps haunting you?

00:29:46
Speaker 4: Every Sweet sixteen game that I've been to, that as as I keep haunting me?

00:29:50
Speaker 2: But what is that pressure like when we talk about regular season pressure and then you know conference and then you get to the NCAA tournament. Yeah.

00:29:58
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's so different because you think just during the regular season, it's like you have another game. If you lose, okay, we can fix it, we can figure out our mistakes. Once you start getting into you know, play its win or go home. And it's different because it's like a lot of these girls last time ever putting on a Notre Dame jersey.

00:30:16
Speaker 9: You're ever putting on a jersey at all.

00:30:17
Speaker 4: So it's like you're finding for something bigger than you know, just yourself, like your teammates, who was the last time playing, And it's just like it's scary.

00:30:25
Speaker 9: Every game is scary.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: What's the most points you scored in the game. Oh, I don't know, grade school, high school.

00:30:33
Speaker 9: Grade school, in high school.

00:30:35
Speaker 4: I think it was like forty one or something forty five or something like that, anywhere between that range.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: Want to pass the ball a little.

00:30:42
Speaker 4: More, Yeah, I probably should have what we want, So that's all that matters.

00:30:47
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, But you never scored like fifty and when you're in grade school.

00:30:51
Speaker 4: In grade school, yeah, probably, but it was middle school, so I don't remember those days they were blowing teams off.

00:30:55
Speaker 2: By fifty points. Do you have keys to the gym if you want to go in after hours?

00:31:02
Speaker 7: Oh?

00:31:02
Speaker 4: Yeah absolutely, it's open twenty four to seven for you, for everybody, for all of us.

00:31:07
Speaker 2: Wait, like for me, No, not for you, but like, waa need to get shots up? I go in the lab. That's what you need to do.

00:31:15
Speaker 9: That's exactly what we need to do. But any any of the players have access.

00:31:18
Speaker 2: Who do you think is a better shoot me or you're dead?

00:31:22
Speaker 7: Oh?

00:31:22
Speaker 4: I don't remember my dad being able to shoot.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: Who taught you to shoot?

00:31:30
Speaker 9: You know, it's crazy.

00:31:30
Speaker 4: My youngest brother, who's two years younger than me, swore he taught me how to shoot.

00:31:34
Speaker 9: But I started playing when I was.

00:31:36
Speaker 4: Four, so I mean she was like two years old. But yeah, probably probably my parents. They had me in the gym all the time, teaching me how to shoot.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll get to a point where you'll have basketball women's players leaving after their freshman year sophomore year.

00:31:50
Speaker 4: I would think the way the woman's game is evolving, it's it's very possible, it's very likely. But I think for me, I personally just wouldn't do it because I just want to enjoy my you know, time in college.

00:32:01
Speaker 2: Well how important is that degree to you? Oh?

00:32:03
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

00:32:03
Speaker 4: Notre dame degree, and you know, drum my recruitment process. It was like once you get the not dame, once you graduate, it's like, if you want to go be a clown somewhere, you can find somebody and find an alumni that's there with you.

00:32:14
Speaker 9: So it's like, you know, just the connections and just to the degree just set you up for life.

00:32:19
Speaker 2: Okay, just to be clear, you don't want to be a clown.

00:32:21
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to.

00:32:22
Speaker 4: Be a cloud, But if I wanted to, there's opportunity anywhere.

00:32:25
Speaker 2: But you're in film, though, aren't you.

00:32:26
Speaker 10: I am.

00:32:26
Speaker 9: I'm a f T teen mager.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: What do you want to do?

00:32:29
Speaker 4: Probably after playing, after coaching, maybe in the broadcasting me in front of the camera, just because I love the game.

00:32:35
Speaker 9: I know the game.

00:32:35
Speaker 2: Oh so not be like an actress?

00:32:37
Speaker 9: No no, no, no no, no, something with sports.

00:32:40
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you want to do what I'm doing?

00:32:43
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

00:32:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I can probably help you. I'm the Hanna Hidalgo broadcasters. Just to let you know, I got dog in me. Look, I could tell yeah, I'm ready. I slapped the floor. By the way, when I play defense.

00:32:57
Speaker 9: I thought you didn't play the events.

00:32:58
Speaker 2: No, I give the impression that never stopped at I always laugh when I see guys slap the floor and go, what are you doing? That doesn't intimidate anybody.

00:33:08
Speaker 9: Get them fired up, gets them going, Yeah.

00:33:10
Speaker 2: That doesn't stop me. The only way to stop me was with a handgun. And league league rules frowned upon that. Oh, I'm not kidding, I'm being serious. Really, yeah, jeez, good luck this season.

00:33:27
Speaker 9: Thank you so much.

00:33:28
Speaker 2: All right, And if you want to be the face of college basketball, you have no joines with that face, that personality, and you'll be the face of college basketball. Hannah Hidalgo, the Notre Dame junior guard, the ACC preseason player of the Year. We'll take a break. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick Show.

00:33:49
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00:34:01
Speaker 2: We welcome in, the Heisman Trophy winner in two thousand and two and now the head coach at Santa Margarita Catholic just beat modern day Carson Palmer on the program. Look at you, big successful head coach there. When I say Notre Dame, first thing that comes to mind is.

00:34:19
Speaker 7: What phenomenal memories? You know. I was a Notre Dame.

00:34:25
Speaker 11: Recruit, really wanted to go to Notre Dame, went on a trip there, went on an official visit, went to a camp there, kind of fell in love with it, so it was a special place to me. And then at the end, just USC won my heart and got me.

00:34:39
Speaker 7: But we had some.

00:34:40
Speaker 11: Great battles against them, and obviously one of the best, one of the best, you know, traditions in all of college football.

00:34:48
Speaker 2: Wait, how did they win your heart?

00:34:51
Speaker 7: They were Notre Dame.

00:34:52
Speaker 2: You No, how did USC win your heart or steal your heart?

00:34:56
Speaker 11: Well, coach, you know the coaching staff. I got really close to the coaching staff. I was close to home. I was only an hour hour and a half away, so I got a chance to spend some more time at SC on campus. I got to talk to a bunch of the guys that were part of that recruiting class, and just at the end of the day, I wanted to stay close to home, where my family could watch me play.

00:35:17
Speaker 2: Do you have to call certain coaches to say I'm not coming to your school?

00:35:23
Speaker 7: I did. I did. That was tough.

00:35:26
Speaker 11: That was that was That was the first kind of big boy moment of my life because I got you know, I got close to coaches throughout that process, and I remember when I had I remember the day I had to call Rick new Heiseel. Rick new Heisel was at University of Colorado. I loved Colorado, spent some time there as well, and Coach new Heiseel recruited me hard and often, and I had to had to make that call. I had to let him know and and I could hear the disappointment in his voice. And so that is a part of it. That is a big part of it.

00:35:56
Speaker 2: I know.

00:35:56
Speaker 11: I feel like the public doesn't really understand that. They think, oh, whatever, everybody's up for grabs now. But you create these relationships, You create these connections. They come and watch you play, they come and watch you practice, You spend time with them, and there is a real genuine connection.

00:36:10
Speaker 7: And it's hard for these kids to have to do.

00:36:13
Speaker 2: You got a wild recruiting story. You don't have to have any names.

00:36:16
Speaker 6: But.

00:36:19
Speaker 11: I'll tell you what Rick new. Heizel knew how to recruit. We had a blast at Colorado. In one recruiting weekend. We went paintballing, We floated down the river and inner tubes and ended at a barbecue. He rented out a bar and let only the football recruits and girls from campus in.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: We and you turn that down, No, you couldn't turn.

00:36:43
Speaker 7: Any of it down. It was phenomenal. The food we ate.

00:36:45
Speaker 11: You know, he was flying in lobsters from Maine and crab cakes from Baltimore.

00:36:51
Speaker 7: It was amazing. He knew how to recruit.

00:36:53
Speaker 2: Dang, and you passed that up. Well, you probably got that at USC too, right, It was pretty good at c. Now you're a high school coach, I'm curious about the quarterbacking position and what is being taught. And it just feels like everybody's in shotgun and nobody's under center. And you know, we keep repeating these patterns, these habits. These guys are going to get to college and kind of get away with things or try to get away with things out of the shotgun. How does it work with your quarterbacks?

00:37:28
Speaker 11: Well, we spend time in shotgun, But if you look at the college game, there's a lot of kids in the shotgun in college as well. We also spend a ton of time, especially in spring ball. We spent a majority of spring under center just to learn it and understand it. But you know, we're running the same stuff that I was running in the NFL, the stuff that I was taught, and you know, all the plays and concepts and reasons why you throw into this coverage and away from this coverage that I was taught from all the amazing coaches I was able to play for. So we're we're running in NFL style system. We're definitely in shotgun. We're under center a bit, but that's where the college game is. And you know, I don't think it's that much easier under center because what people don't realize is or i'm sorry, in shotgun. What people don't realize is when you're in shotgun, you have to take your eyes off the defense. When you're under center, you get to see it all unfold. So you see the pre snap, you see the pre snap coverage, and then you see the snap post snap coverage unfold after the snap as it's developing.

00:38:28
Speaker 7: We're in shotgun.

00:38:29
Speaker 11: It's hard because you got to look up see the defense and then find that ball and then look up and the picture is a little bit different.

00:38:35
Speaker 7: So you know, I don't think it's a crutch. I think it.

00:38:39
Speaker 11: Makes a little bit easier on the center quarterback exchange.

00:38:43
Speaker 7: But again, you still see.

00:38:44
Speaker 11: It at the high school level and at the college level snaps flying over guys heads and bouncing on the ground. So you know, we we spend quite a bit of time in both, and I think you see a bunch of kids in college playing in the shotgun.

00:38:56
Speaker 2: But I love under center, and I always go back to a conversation I have with Joe Montana. He said, you know, he sees shotgun, but he said I loved under center because I'm getting the ball and everything is in real time, so as I'm moving, defense is moving. And he said it helped me kind of sync up when I was going to throw a pack like I got in rhythm. It allowed me to get back in the pocket and then step up in the pocket. And I think these quarterbacks now they're back in the pocket and then they either scramble right or left.

00:39:28
Speaker 7: That's a big piece of it. Another big piece of it, too is the run game.

00:39:31
Speaker 11: So when you're under center, and you have a run to the right, and that's a bad look. There's too many guys on the defensive side.

00:39:37
Speaker 7: On that side of the ball.

00:39:39
Speaker 11: When you're under center, you can throw the ball on these quick slants and quick hitches and get the ball in receiver's hands much quicker than you can from shotgun because it takes a minute from the ball to get from center to the shotgun. So from the run game perspective, I think there's some advantages as well. The quicker you get the ball in and out of your hands and in your playmaker's hands, the better.

00:39:59
Speaker 7: So I think I think it goes both ways with the run and pass.

00:40:02
Speaker 2: We're talking to Carson Palmer, Heisman Trophy winner two thousand and two and College Football Hall of Famer. You got Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers in their forties. How's that possible in today's NFL in.

00:40:15
Speaker 11: Some different color jerseys too, and some different looking helmets.

00:40:18
Speaker 7: It's pretty amazing.

00:40:19
Speaker 11: I don't think, you know, in twenty you know, seventeen, any of us were thinking that Rogers will be wearing the black and gold and Flacco would be wearing the stripes. It just it doesn't you know, it doesn't feel right, but it also shows you, you know, where the game is and the development of these young quarterbacks. There's just not you know, there's not enough good young quarterbacks going around that the Bengals can't can't rely on somebody other than a Flacco, and the.

00:40:44
Speaker 7: Steelers can't rely or develop somebody other than a Rogers.

00:40:48
Speaker 11: So I think it's you know, it's also a good illustration of where the state of the game is as far as quarterbacks and young quarterback play is.

00:40:55
Speaker 2: But it still comes down to doing something from the pocket, right.

00:41:00
Speaker 7: At the end of the day. You know, I've been asked this.

00:41:02
Speaker 11: There's been so many great quarterbacks that have come into the game and been elite runners and great outside the pocket. At the end of the day, you still and in order to play late into December and into January, you still, in order to get there, you've got to be able to stand in the pocket and deliver the football accurately.

00:41:20
Speaker 7: Downfield when you're getting hit in the face.

00:41:23
Speaker 11: And I know, it's fun to watch quarterbacks drop back and scramble and you know, run thirty five yards to get seven, you know, on third and six, and you see him flying all over the place. But at the end of the day, you know, you look at what Tom Brady did and his accomplishments. He was standing in the pocket and delivering the ball accurately down the field when he was getting hit in the mouth.

00:41:43
Speaker 2: But you see these quarterbacks now who have that first read and then they pass up the first read. It's almost like it's there. Now, I'm looking for something else, and then all of a sudden you scramble out of the pocket and you take away half the field when you do that. We've seen this with Caleb with you know, Cam, like these young quarterbacks, as much talent as they have, you got away with that in high school and college. You can't get away with that in the pros.

00:42:11
Speaker 11: Then you sound like me and all of our offensive meetings from talking with our quarterbacks or receivers in my line, I say it to them over and over again, if you don't throw it, they won't cover it.

00:42:22
Speaker 7: We're talking about the flat, the quick out.

00:42:24
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, if you don't throw the flat, they won't cover it. So when it's open, you got to take it. You can't go from your first read into your second read and then go oh no, shoot, it's covered and then go back to your first read.

00:42:35
Speaker 7: And so you know, you sound a lot like me. I'm preaching that every day in meetings.

00:42:40
Speaker 11: You know, we're seven weeks in in our season at Santa Margarita.

00:42:43
Speaker 7: And I'm saying the same thing. It doesn't matter if you're in the NFL.

00:42:47
Speaker 11: If you're in high school, if you're in fifth grade playing pee wee pop worn or football. It's so much more fun to throw the ball downfield. It's so much more fun to thread the needle. But what's effective is taking that first read and getting the ball out of your hands and make in the defense all sprint over there, run and then have to get that guy on the ground.

00:43:05
Speaker 2: What is that feeling like when you know you've got a receiver open and you know you're going to get crushed, but you have to stand there, take it, and then you're able to deliver that pass.

00:43:18
Speaker 11: Either love it or you hate it. And I loved it. I kind of took that as a badge of honor. You know, nothing felt better than letting the ball go. And right when you let it go, you get crushed, and then you feel that defender breathing down your neck, talking trash and as you're getting up, you just say, oh, they're moving the change, here we go.

00:43:39
Speaker 7: So that that feeling and you know, those those aren't the ones that hurt.

00:43:44
Speaker 11: The ones that hurt are the ones that you're ready for and you're absorbing and you're trying to tense up.

00:43:49
Speaker 7: Kind of like being in a car crash.

00:43:51
Speaker 11: They say, you know, when when somebody's you know, drunk behind the wheel, they never end up getting hurt in the crash because you don't you're not ready for it. It's much like that when you're focused downfield and you're getting ready to let the ball rip and you throw it. Your body isn't anticipating that contact, so you kind of just absorb it as opposed to tense up and fight it.

00:44:10
Speaker 2: Is there one that stands out that maybe still hurts.

00:44:15
Speaker 7: Yeah?

00:44:15
Speaker 11: You remember remember Sean big Baby Rogers University of Texas defensive lineman.

00:44:22
Speaker 7: He was in He was in.

00:44:24
Speaker 11: Cleveland, and I don't know how it happened. It was the last game of the season, but he landed up or he ended up. I was on my back and he sat on me. He fell from the sky, but first right on my chest, and to this day he dislocated my sternum from my rib cage, and to this day, I still feel that big, big baby Sean Rodgers, phenomenal player, unreal player. I think he's in Detroit in Cleveland as well, but he landed right and I just felt almost like a CPR when you're getting CPR those compressions. He did his compressions with all three seventy of himself.

00:45:01
Speaker 2: Are you is your high school team? The fighting Margarita's like it's Santa Margarita. Okay, like you have like a cocktails the oh, the Eagles?

00:45:10
Speaker 7: Okay, there it is.

00:45:12
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right? Do you want to coach in college?

00:45:16
Speaker 7: No?

00:45:16
Speaker 11: But do you want to come and watch us play? Can you fly out and watch it? We've got Saint John Bosco at home homecoming. It's a big game for us. We're both too and oh in the training league.

00:45:25
Speaker 7: You should leave.

00:45:25
Speaker 11: South Bend, come out and cover the game Friday night and then get back to South Bend on time for Sunday.

00:45:31
Speaker 2: Let me see, Fritz, do we have that? Can we get the corporate jet? I want to make a couple of calls. Thank you.

00:45:38
Speaker 1: I think that we can do it.

00:45:39
Speaker 2: Took time to be on the show as you go support his team. I mean, if I if I can get the corporate jet, I see no reason why I wouldn't go out and root for the fighting Margarita.

00:45:51
Speaker 7: Let's do it, Fitz. Thanks man, I appreciate you all right.

00:45:53
Speaker 2: Do you have a like are you a tough pep talk guy?

00:45:57
Speaker 7: Like?

00:45:57
Speaker 2: How do you get your guys all fired up?

00:46:00
Speaker 6: No, I'm not.

00:46:00
Speaker 11: You know, I give a quick speech pregame, but you know the Hayes in the barn at that point, we spend a lot of time Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, getting getting our work in, getting ourselves ready, getting ourselves battle.

00:46:11
Speaker 2: Wait, but you don't use the Hayes in the barn like, yeah, that's old guy stuff.

00:46:16
Speaker 7: Like you know that just that's just for you.

00:46:19
Speaker 2: For me being an older guy.

00:46:20
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's I would never say that to a seventeen year old the would they look at me like I was crazy?

00:46:24
Speaker 2: Yeah? Thank you for dumbing it down.

00:46:27
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't need a ton of a ton of hype speeches. We got a very focused group, very intense. I give a little bit pregame, but these guys do a good job firing themselves up.

00:46:38
Speaker 2: The fighting Margaritas great to talk to you, and thanks for joining us, Carson.

00:46:42
Speaker 7: I'll see them all night. Thanks Dan.

00:46:44
Speaker 2: What times? What times? Game time?

00:46:46
Speaker 7: Seven pm pst.

00:46:49
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's good. All right, who's with me?

00:46:52
Speaker 7: Let's go.

00:46:53
Speaker 2: I'm in high school football. Yeah yeah, Santa Margarita, Santa Margarita eleven. Heck yeah yeah.

00:46:58
Speaker 1: We cocktail walk on the rim.

00:47:02
Speaker 2: Sounds lovely good for him being a high school coach giving back to the community. I love that modern day. I know that that was always a big day, didn't They had a bunch of what Barkley did Liner go there as well. Yep, they always churn out some great players. All right, let's take a break. We'll talk to Marcus Freeman, and we'll do so right after this Dan Patrick show.

00:47:27
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00:47:39
Speaker 2: Paully has this bad habit of whenever we have Kerrent or former football players on, he wants to know what it feels like to either be blocked or tackled by them. Last time we had Marcus Freeman, Marcus shows up and he says, you're the guy I hit last time, and and Paully's sizing him up and he goes looks like coach has lost a little bit of weight there the season. We're not doing that.

00:48:02
Speaker 6: I'm retired.

00:48:03
Speaker 2: You're not going to put a So is he not going to put a helmet on? Yes, Marvin.

00:48:07
Speaker 6: The scariest part was it was a slow motion demonstration.

00:48:10
Speaker 7: Hey, I could hear.

00:48:13
Speaker 2: That's a slow motion He's Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame head coaches, fifth season and played, of course at Ohio State, the Ohio State drafted by the Bears, your Bears in the fifth round of two thousand and nine. As we make way for Marcus Freeman back on the program, Look at you.

00:48:41
Speaker 6: How you're doing.

00:48:41
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, you know. Nice to talk to a fellow Buckeye.

00:48:44
Speaker 6: Here Ohio ohioing.

00:48:47
Speaker 10: Oh, I'm sorry, that's what we're saying around here.

00:48:51
Speaker 2: How would you compare because it came down to Notre Dame in Ohio State for you, right? What was it about Ohio State that made you, even though you're from all but that you chose Ohio State over Notre Dame.

00:49:04
Speaker 6: Were really getting into this, huh.

00:49:08
Speaker 2: Let's just get the tough questions out of the way and then we'll have the easy ones.

00:49:11
Speaker 10: I think they always come down to relationships. A lot of decisions, especially for young people, are about relationships. I just went through this with my son who committed to Cornell for wrestling, and as a parent, you have your reasons for why you make decisions, but young people still base a lot of their decisions off of relationships. And I think that was probably the eighteen year old Marcus Freeman that made.

00:49:38
Speaker 6: That decision based off relationships.

00:49:41
Speaker 2: Comparing contrast USC Notre Dame versus Ohio State Michigan.

00:49:48
Speaker 6: Very similar.

00:49:48
Speaker 10: If you're in one of the schools, right, if you're in it, so Notre Dame USC, when you're a part of this football program, there's nothing bigger than that rivalry. And I think the same thing is if you go to Ohio State or Michigan, you're from Ohio, there's probably nothing bigger than that rivalry.

00:50:09
Speaker 6: And so.

00:50:11
Speaker 10: For us when we talk about this, this rivalry versus USC, the longest intersectional rivalry meaning interconference, right, and I mean I'm sorry, not interconference, but not in the same conference. And that's what makes it special. It's kind of the foundation of Notre Dame and the ability to go and say, hey, we'll play anywhere in the country. We don't have a conference and that's how this program was built and that's why it means a lot.

00:50:42
Speaker 6: I mean, it's been going on for many years.

00:50:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, but why is it in jeopardy?

00:50:47
Speaker 6: Listen? I don't.

00:50:51
Speaker 2: You know, do you want to talk about Ohio State?

00:50:56
Speaker 10: Look, you know there's decisions that institutions make based off conference you know, scheduling and things like that, and I know that's playing into some of the discussions that USC is having. I'm sure with our administration and the higher ups. I'm sure, are you know, going back and forth on maybe little details.

00:51:18
Speaker 6: I think so, I don't know.

00:51:21
Speaker 2: You know, it feels like the USC it's tough for to throw in another great opponent when you're in the Big ten, when there's quality opponents and you know, you can't have three losses and be in the playoffs. Like, let's just look at the business side of this. It feels like USC means more to Notre Dame than Notre Dame means to USC.

00:51:40
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:51:41
Speaker 10: I don't know what we mean to them, but I know it means a lot to us. It does the rivalry, the quality of opponent, the respect for the program. It is a it does mean a lot to this university and this football program, and we want to see it continue.

00:51:56
Speaker 2: What was it like first time you took the field as the head coach at Notre Dame.

00:52:00
Speaker 6: Man, it's a it's a blur. I know.

00:52:03
Speaker 10: It was uh in Phoenix, Arizona, Scottsdale. We were playing uh, Oregon, you know, Oklahoma State in the Fiesta Bowl, and uh, you don't know. What you don't know, you know is adrenaline rush. You're running out there. I'm used to being a defensive coordinator, and then all of a sudden there was moments in a game like I got a call time on, Like oh, somebody called time out to me, you know, and so.

00:52:27
Speaker 2: All the things that you kind of weren't involved in, Yeah you're involved in. Yeah.

00:52:32
Speaker 10: Amen, Now you have to be the one to make those decisions, and so you learn through experience.

00:52:37
Speaker 6: But that first one was a it was a blur.

00:52:39
Speaker 2: But how important was it to make your debut in a bowl game as opposed to starting your career during the regular season. Did it matter?

00:52:48
Speaker 10: You know?

00:52:49
Speaker 6: Did it matter.

00:52:52
Speaker 10: I don't know what it would be like to not start a career not in a bowl game, you know, so it's hard for me to compare what that's like. You know, we played Oklahoma State. We had time to get ready for that opponent. But you wanted to say, I mean, you had transition, You're a new head coach, you had some guys that didn't play in the game, you had to put you know who's playing.

00:53:15
Speaker 6: It was a.

00:53:16
Speaker 10: Unique time, and there's unique times and challenging times today, But I know in that moment, it was just a whirlwind of different things trying to figure this thing out.

00:53:26
Speaker 2: But you're navigating and this is nil and transfer portal and it's just not coaching football. Like if it was just coaching football, you'd probably have a saban would probably still be coaching. But you throw in all the other stuff here.

00:53:41
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're leading the program. You you have to be adaptable. You're not just yeah, as you said, a football coach. You're You're a person that wears many hats and you have to figure out what's.

00:53:53
Speaker 6: Important at that given time.

00:53:55
Speaker 10: And I think that's what leadership is, is that if it's a recruiting hat, if it's an il hat if it's a football hat that you got to wear all those different things. It's the ability to put one on, take one off, and really focus on what needs to be, what needs to have your focus at that given moment.

00:54:13
Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like practice or games are the best part of all of this because you're not worrying about all the other nonsense.

00:54:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, you enjoy that.

00:54:22
Speaker 10: That's probably the time you really get to be a part of what attracted you to this profession, right, being around the players, leading them, but also football, Like you love the game of football, and you love the competition, and you know Saturday is a reflection of how you.

00:54:43
Speaker 6: Practice, and so yeah, you enjoy that probably the most.

00:54:46
Speaker 2: We're talking to Marcus Freeman, a Notre Dame head coach and of course hosting U. See, we had Brady Quinn on first hour. He said, your quarterback's best quarterback in the country.

00:54:57
Speaker 6: He said that, Yeah, I appreciate it, man, he would know. I mean, he's he's he's a quarter.

00:55:02
Speaker 2: He says he's playing better than everybody, anybody. And he said, but he said, the tape doesn't lie. Now, I know he's your quarterback, but tell me how you got him, and what did you think you got when you brought him in?

00:55:16
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's a unique recruiting experience talking about the grandson of Lloyd Carr. I actually played in some games against Lloyd Carr, and uh, you know, you have his grandson that has interest in Notre Dame and it's real interest, and then you're you're able to grow a relationship and convincing. And he he felt that this was the best place for him, and I knew at.

00:55:41
Speaker 6: That moment he was different. Right to a kid that.

00:55:44
Speaker 10: Grows up in ann Arbor, Michigan has legacies of Michigan ties and to say I want to come to Notre Dame. That showed you he's a leader. He's he doesn't follow trends, and then you get them here. And we got him here for bowl practice we were getting ready for I can't remember.

00:56:08
Speaker 6: I think it was two years. I can't remember who we were getting ready to play.

00:56:10
Speaker 10: But he comes in, he's supposed to be in high school and he starts practicing with us for a bowl game. And he was a scout team quarterback. And I'll never forget, like there was a time.

00:56:22
Speaker 2: So he graduated early from high school.

00:56:24
Speaker 10: Yeah, and it was this new rule that if you graduated early, you could come and practice with a college team, but you couldn't participate in the bowl game. But I just remember it was one time he gets yelled at by our defense coordinator at the time for not throwing the ball maybe somewhere he's supposed to throw it. And to see him respond most kids would melt right And to see him respond and say yes, sir, next time and just go and go. And I mean, I was like, this kid should be in high school. He's different man. And now two years later, he has a unique Yes, he's a really good quarterback, he's blessed with great skills, but he has a unique trait that not many people have. And that's that competitive spirit, that's that leadership mentality that he has.

00:57:12
Speaker 6: And he's pretty special.

00:57:15
Speaker 2: The schedule, I don't know if you had any say in the schedule to start the year. Did you have any say in playing Miami at Miami or I.

00:57:24
Speaker 6: Don't know when that game was schedule, But I wouldn't have said no.

00:57:27
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but those are two tough games right out of the right out of the gate. But can you have good losses? You ever had a good loss.

00:57:38
Speaker 10: No loss is good loss, Losing is awful. But I always say be grateful for the pain of loss, because that pain is there to help you grow.

00:57:51
Speaker 6: It's uncomfortable.

00:57:52
Speaker 10: It's no different than physically, when you have a cut on your arm, you want to do things to stop the pain, right. The same thing when you lose a game. The pain is there for you to learn from it, to get better and to make that pain go away. So I always it stinks to lose. Nobody wants to lose, especially if you're a competitor, but you have to utilize that pain to help you grow. And so yeah, it's it's a good loss in that sense that the pain was there to help us get better, and I believe we did.

00:58:25
Speaker 2: What do you remember about being drafted by the Bears?

00:58:30
Speaker 6: It was a lot.

00:58:31
Speaker 10: The weight was always I always tell our guys, the weight's going to be longer than you expect, all right, because you always hear a range of slots that you can go. And it was a long couple days for me and and but when you get the call, it's that childhood dream. I got drafted to the NFL and then Lovey Smith was the head coach at the time, and they had Brian Urlacker and Lance Briggs and Jay Cutler was a quarterback. I mean, you were living to dreaming. Then you get there and you say, oh, this is a job. It's not as much a dream, it's a job. And it was a great experience one that I'll cherish. And uh, it was short.

00:59:12
Speaker 6: I wouldn't.

00:59:13
Speaker 10: I wouldn't. I wasn't there for too long. But it was a great opportunity.

00:59:17
Speaker 2: But when did you realize there was a difference between you and Brian r Locker or Lancebrigg's playing linebacker.

00:59:23
Speaker 6: Well, when you see.

00:59:24
Speaker 10: Brian Urlacker, you realize right away, like, oh, there's a big difference between us, you know. But the knowledge that they had so how fast they played the game because the knowledge they had clarity in terms of what was being asked of them. And that was a huge transition for me to learn a Tampa two defense something new and to try to play fast.

00:59:47
Speaker 6: Like everybody you recruit. Here's how I use it in college. Everybody you recruit is really good in high school.

00:59:53
Speaker 10: Why because they're playing fast they have clarity on what they're being asked to do. The guys that come here and learn the playbook and what they're being asked to do, and play with.

01:00:04
Speaker 6: That clarity, the guys usually play earliest.

01:00:06
Speaker 10: And so that's probably what I realize more anything, is that, hey man, those guys understand the ins and outs of everything they're being asked to do.

01:00:13
Speaker 2: But you bring up something really interesting is we look at guys who are quick and fast, but if you know where you're going, you're even quicker and you're faster, right, And I think that that's underrated. Sometimes we go, boy, that guy's got God given ability. But if Urlocker knows I have to go there and I'm already fast to get there, I'm even faster, And that that's where they disrupt plays.

01:00:35
Speaker 10: On defense always we have a saying clarity equals velocity, and so the more clarity you have, the faster you're going to be able to play. And that's what we have to do as coaches is create clarity for our guys to go out there and play fast.

01:00:49
Speaker 2: How far is your office from here?

01:00:51
Speaker 6: A couple hundred yards?

01:00:53
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, not too far. What is it like? Did you ever walk this campus by yourself?

01:01:00
Speaker 6: First?

01:01:00
Speaker 2: Got this job?

01:01:01
Speaker 7: Like?

01:01:01
Speaker 2: If you can't help but see history oh yeah, But I don't know how that it impacts me every time I walk this campus. But it's like West Point when you're there, I mean, you're a whole different world. Yeah, and there are very few campuses like that with this history. But I didn't know if you ever found yourself you're just walking the campus and really letting it sink in of where you are.

01:01:24
Speaker 6: I do it often. I still do it to this day.

01:01:27
Speaker 10: I remember when I came here when I was looking at potentially being a defensive coordinator, and I was with my wife, and I remember saying, this is the most beautiful campus I've ever been on, and it was just perfect.

01:01:40
Speaker 6: All right.

01:01:40
Speaker 10: It's a hard way to describe it, but I still do it to this day. I run on campus. I'll walk early in the morning and sometimes go by the Golden Domans, And it's a reminder of the gratitude that you have for this place, the history of this place, the people that have come before you. And I think for me, it's the responsible to continue to make it better, to elevate it. And uh, it's a it's a great responsibility, but a great reminder as you look around this place.

01:02:09
Speaker 2: Did you cry when you got the head coaching John.

01:02:13
Speaker 10: No, No, I didn't. That doesn't mean I wasn't emotional.

01:02:17
Speaker 2: Your players were emotional. Yeah, I mean it's a great video. That video is wonderful, but it's a testament to you. It's a testament to they got the right guy.

01:02:30
Speaker 6: I hope. So I hope, I hope. You know, I don't you know.

01:02:35
Speaker 10: I look at that moment and I was just as excited to go greet them as as the video showed they were to greet me. I think it's it's a reflection of a group of players and a coach that have either earned trust or choose to trust each other, right, Like they trusted me to be the head coach, and I trust that I'm going to help them reach their goals.

01:03:04
Speaker 6: And so we're in this together.

01:03:06
Speaker 10: Like that's how I view this thing, all right, that that Yeah, you're the head coach. You have to lead, you have to have the vision and the plan and the process. But we're in this together. We succeed together, and when we have difficult moments, we have those together and we all have to own it.

01:03:28
Speaker 2: Good luck on Saturday. I appreciate great to talk to you again. Appreciate it's always do you want to hit paul Do you want to hit Paulie again?

01:03:37
Speaker 6: It's your your home. Getting tempting, you know, it's very tempting.

01:03:41
Speaker 2: When's the last time you hit somebody? I can practice?

01:03:45
Speaker 10: Do you ever know I used my years Deven's coordinator. Probably was the last time I put on the little little chest pad and let them hit me. They you know, they would try to go a little bit extra. But you know, with with with four boys at home, sometimes you know, there's wrestlers, there's football players. We have some pretty good matchups.

01:04:07
Speaker 2: You don't want to mess with the wrestler. You don't want to mess with the wrestler.

01:04:11
Speaker 10: I don't mess with the eighteen year old, but the twelve, the ten and a six year old.

01:04:14
Speaker 6: I can still take them. Yeah, I can still take them.

01:04:17
Speaker 2: He's Marcus Freeman. We'll come back after this Stan Patrick Show.