Zoe Says All’s Fair in Love and War!

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Speaker 1: Hey, every want Welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we are here today with Zoe. Zoe. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Thank you for having me, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, And before we get into the episode, we're gonna get a little breakdown of what you were doing before the show, how you got on the show, a little bit of a history, and then we'll get into episode two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's lots to talk about, so we're excited to have you on today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, Zoe, where where do you live?

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Speaker 2: So? Right now, I live in New York City, but I'm actually from southern Virginia. I went to school in North Carolina and lived in Philly. So nice New York too. We're here too, a West village. Oh nice.

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Speaker 3: We're in Chelsea, so not too far close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been here?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think like three years food and a half now I'm like losing track of time. Yeah, I'll together, we failed the same.

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Speaker 1: And how what do you do for a living?

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Speaker 2: So when I graduated, I've been working in finance tech for like six years and my latest job was with the one in Stock Exchange as a product manager. We did interest rate things with large investment banks. But I was actually laid off this summer, and I had started modeling a couple of years ago once I moved to New York, so luckily I was able to kind of just pivot into that realm. But I do always want to get back into like tech or like startups. So TBD.

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Speaker 1: Nice, Nice, And what was dating life like before you went on the show.

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Speaker 2: It was very weird for me, Like I grew up in southern Virginia as like one of the few people of color in my like small town, and I did not have a boyfriend until my senior year of college. I think because of that, like a lot of the guys would say like they couldn't date black women, like whatnot, and I didn't have many options. And then at college it's like at Duke, everyone was like so nerdy, and I think they we like we're also focused on studies. Like once the guys got there, they just wanted to have fun and party and no one wanted to settle down. And when I graduated, I moved to Philly. I met a guy, and you know, I thought, like this is the one for me. And I think at the time, I had like really low self esteem. So I basically wasted like two years of my life like chasing him and like pick me, like love me. And when we finally did start dating, I was able to see a lot of like the red flags and like how I was not being treated well. And I think that coincided with me moving to New York and like getting real girlfriends and like people who were like hyping me up and like so we're like you're like amazing, Like you don't need this, and so like the last two years dating in New York has been interesting, Like I think the quality of men is so amazing, Like I've met so many genuine, nice, great people. But now I'm back with the people who don't want to commit. And even worse than not wanting to commit, they don't tell you that, and so you've invested like months to like a year that they're not actually looking for relationships. So that's where I was at. And so last year on my vision board, I was like, I want a husband. That's what I was looking for, you know, I think it's it's something I really really do want as just a life partner and like love and like a family. And when the opportunity arose like it was the strangest set of coincidences. Like I said, I got laid off and then I was going in to compete for Miss New York USA for my third time. I was the returning fresh runner up, so I was like, should have won. And that week between like getting laid off and not winning the pageant was like when someone had reached out to me of like, do you want to apply to be on the Bachelor? And I was like, I guess, I I'll hedge my bets, like I'll start the process. And once I lost the pageant and I, you know, no longer had a job, I was like, I guess this is what I'm supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 1: At the time, was Grant announced as being the next Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: No, so by that point all we had seen was part of gen season, and I was like looking at that like similar what Jen said. I was like, no, one's like really sticking out to me, Like obviously there were some cute guys, Grant was one of them, but like we didn't really to see a ton of personalities. So I wasn't like I want this man to be my husband, but I was open to it, and I think we found out when the world found out via Instagram, and yeah, I was like, he seems really sweet. He seemed like he actually wants to be a husband and like wants to be a protector and provider. And he's a little bit mysterious online, so it's like you know too much about him, But honestly, in this day and age, that's preferred when it comes to men, like I want my man on private with like two hundred followers, So I was excited to meet him.

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Speaker 3: Did it feel like, what were your hopes to expectations going into it, because it almost feels like if I was in your shoes, I'd be like this is crazy, Like it almost feels kind of like fate, like everything's aligning, like someone reached out to me at this perfect time in my life to do something like this, and I'm manifesting a husband and this guy's looking for a wife, and like this could really all work out.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly it. And everything in my life that's been life changing, wrestling, getting into Duke, like everything was that way. Like it's not like I had these like I'm going to go do these things and they completely altered my life. So I was like Oh, this just makes sense in the life of Zoe, like of course I'd be on the Bachelor and figure I get laid off from my job and yeah, so that was my thing. I'm like very much like trust the process, like it's here. It made sense and it definitely like no one was surprised.

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Speaker 1: One more fact about you. You were on the boys rest team. How does that work for boys in high school wrestling with a girl, you know what?

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Speaker 2: Like being in like a small like conservative town. I really thought they weren't gonna let me join because there was no women's team. It was back in like I don't even know twenty twelve. But as I said, I'm very much like the type of person like if I'm not supposed to do something like, I'm gonna go do it, like I'm gonna prove you all wrong. So when I heard that they had openings, I went. I was horrible. I got pinned in twenty seconds every single match for my first year, and typical they all were like, she's not taking this seriously, like don't come back type thing. But I didn't want to let that happen, and I came back and I really pushed myself and by my second year, I don't think I got pinned. By my fourth year, I was winning half my matches. But the guys were actually so supportive, funny enough, A guy that I wrestled like still follows me and he's like, I wrestled you, and he's like, I saw that I was on the Bachelor, so he's like so hype. So like the guys were so impressed because you would think that I would come in and I would just be like an easy win and I love to surprise people. And I never left him. Why what called you to do that? Like, how are you like?

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Speaker 3: I feel called to be a wrestler now and I'm going to do it on the boys team.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was such a black sheep growing up. I was adopted into like a Caucasian family, as I said, like in a very like white town. I was a complete nerd. I like dressed it as Albert Einstein for every Halloween. So I was.

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Speaker 1: That's funny.

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Speaker 2: That should have been in your fun facts. You should have came about the limo dressed up Like I was like, let me try to get a husband, but maybe one day I'll show those But yeah, so I was like always just like so didn't fit in, and at the time, I was like really tall to him, five to nine. Everyone in my hometown was like I was the tallest girl. I was taller than most of the boys, and I had been playing basketball at that time. And I heard the announcement, I was like, Okay, what's gonna look better in college? Like tall girl plays basketball or girl plays wrestling, and like either one, I'm going to the Olympics for so I chose to do it, and it really was life changing. I learned so many like skills that you don't get in any other sport or like really much anything else in life, for like self discipline if you've never wrestled, like it's both an individual sport and a team sport, like you were reliable for maintaining your weight going to the gym working out, but also like learning the moves and then getting in the right head space. And also like I didn't have a great home life, so it was a great escape for those like many hours after school that I had a place to go. And I think it's also what helped me when I got to engineering, because I'm like, I'm used to being one of the boys and like all of that, so definitely amazing. And now I get to like mentor with some wrestlers here, which is amazing. That is so cool.

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Speaker 3: That is yeah, wow, I love that story. Okay, let's get into the show. So night one rolls around. You could have dresses Albert Einstein. You could have wrestled him to the ground. You went with the T shirt gun. How did we land on this?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I really was like, do I want to do something like funny whatever, or do I want to look hot and like do something memorable? And I was like, let's do the hot. We can do the fun stuff later. So I had that down from my pad and that I got everywhere. I gotta get my money's worth, and I was thinking something along the lines of basketball. But I figured some of the girls would probably show up with basketball to play basketball whatever, and I was like, fan merch, Like I genuinely want to be a power couple with whoever I am, whether that's just to we look hot or we're souper successful. And so I was like, that's perfect, We'll have some merch. I think my idea was just to throw it over the house to some of the girls who like lay them around. But someone had the idea for this super dangerous scary T shirt cannon and I was like, I have terrible aims, So I genuinely don't know why they thought that was a good idea.

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Speaker 3: I would be like, someone needs to get like a waver, like should have me sign a waiver before I use this?

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Speaker 2: No, I shouldn't be allowed to use this. Also, I didn't know there were girls outside, Like I was like, felt so bad and scared. I was like, is someone who get hit? So I'm glad it all worked out. No one was injured, no mansion was injured. And the making of my Night one entrance, and I think it made an impression.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, I think from a viewer standpoint in ours, you're one of the front runners after episode one, it seems like you and Grant have a really good connection. Is that how it felt? Did you feel confident after Night one?

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Speaker 2: It was this weird mix, And I think it comes down like I, yes, I'd come off confident, and yes I looked like and then I sparkly gowned, But I genuinely am like always like I don't know if people like me. I don't know if men like me and so and I don't know what his type was, Like, we didn't know much about Grant, like does he want uh, like powerhouse woman or does he want someone who's like more like loving and caring or like you know, and so we had such a mix of women. I was like, oh yeah, we had a great intro and we had like actually a good little conversation then. But I was the second to last girl to speak to him that night, so oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do remember you saying something like I've been waiting a long time, or you said something hinting that you were like one of the later.

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Speaker 2: Girls, literally second to last, and you know, by that point maybe had a few too many drinks and like and then our conversation that I actually got really deep, really quickly because of the questions he asked me, And I was like, I want to make every moment I have here as impactful as possible, Like I didn't want to just touch the surface. So I was like, I don't know if that's going to be too much. And I also was like okay, like yes, we kissed, but then he was kissing everyone, so I was like, yeah, kissing, the kisses meant nothing, But I guess on the hindsight, like on the flip side, at least I got a kiss, which then at least showed me that he was attracted to me. And I do think that we had that initial chemistry, which is something that's really really important to me with the men that I date. And yeah, so it was definitely a world one of emotions. I did not feel safe at any point, and I was so grateful my name was called like third because like otherwise I probably would have had a heart attack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't blame you. It definitely feels good to be called early. What were the vibes like in the house, because you definitely made a bold entrance your shooting T shirts out into the pool. We see Chloe, she like puts on the T shirt, she's modeling it. She seemed to have kind of a playful attitude towards your entrance, like she was almost like bantering about it with you. Did any of the girls have a negative reaction towards your entrance?

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Speaker 2: I think someone said something about like it almost hit them, Like I was grateful. Chloe like definitely broke the ice because it was one of those things where they could have been like what are you doing and like ignored it, But yeah, I think my way of operating is like you never know the opportunities that you're gonna have, and like I try to take them full for so like I'm going to try to make an impression, I'm going to try to mark my territory. And so I think when I came in, the vibes were like maybe a little bit weird of like a little bit stand office, like who is this girl? Who does she think she is? Which I'm fine with. I think that's how we should all act, like we don't know each other and we're all about to fight for the same man, like, but yeah, I think it was an interesting dynamic. And plus since we were the last limo, all the other girls were already talking and like spent quite some time together before we got there. So I think that was also like a bit like late to the party, like and I am making a huge entrance, So it wasn't interesting.

00:14:21
Speaker 1: What is your What was your knowledge of the Bachelor franchise before coming.

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Speaker 2: On the show, Very very little, and in hindsight, on my getwish thing, I had watched a little bit more episodes, like I think everyone watches, we've all seen it. We know the promise, but I think maybe I had watched one or two seasons in the last like ten years in its entirety, so I really did not know what I was getting myself into too much. I tried to watch a little bit before I left, just to like have an idea of like even to where like what are we doing, like what is the vibe? But yeah, I didn't know too much. But once I got actually in the casting process, I did look a little bit more and I was happy, like to see that there's stuff like this where there's like a whole almost alumni network where it's like, even if you don't find your love store on the show, like, there's so many opportunities to find love and friendship within the franchise. And I really liked that part. So I was like, I'll win one way or another. Yeah, that's a great.

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Speaker 3: Way to look at it and a great mentality to have going into it for sure. Okay, let's get into episode two because that's where all the juice is of. Yeah, it was a four choice of words. But anyway, you are on the first group date of the season, You're on the basketball date, you play basketball. How do you feel going into the date.

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Speaker 2: So I was excited because I did play basketball. I was I was a little bit upsex. I wanted a smaller group like that was a large group that was ten women on one group date, and it was the day right after the roast ceremony. So it's like we hit the ground running, like there was no time to get to know each other, there was no time to like sit there and reflect. So it was just a bit nerve wracking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Something we see. We see it every season. We see someone pretty early on on a group date. We'll pull the bachelor or bachelor the lead aside and take them away from the group, and it usually rubs the group the wrong way, which which is kind of what happened, which is which happened, which is what happened. So yeah, I just want to hear how that went. What was your thought process doing it? And yeah, the whole thing, well.

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Speaker 2: Exactly as you just said. It happens every season. So in my brain and like the way I think, it's like there's no rules there, like if you know what I mean. And so I knew would rub people the wrong way, but I didn't think it would anger them. I thought it would be something like oh dang, like she did what I wanted to do, and like I'm going to take notes for next time, not like, oh my god, she's this evil, mean woman trying to steal grant from all of us. Because the thing is too like there are ways to be rude in this environment, like if I had a rose and I knew I was safe, if I had a one on one that week, or there was something that we had already established a really strong connection, and then I was just stealing him to steal him, Like yes, I could get you being upset, but it was like we were. It was day one, Like we had been playing basketball for hours and I had the opportunity to like have some extra time, like I don't I need to see Also if I like this guy. And the thing is, if any other girl had done that, I would not have been angry at them, So I would have just been like, cool, next group date, I'm allowed to take him away, Like that's what I think, and that's the way that my brain works. So it was a bit interesting. And then the other problem was I didn't know how angry the girls were until we got to the cocktail party, so they were like sitting there one talking behind my back, but like really hyping each other up to like be angry at me instead of I like trying to talk to me and just be like hey, like you did that thing kind of sucks, Like maybe we had wanted more time with him, like maybe tonight, like just don't do anything crazy. Like I would have been like cool, no problem, but they came in an attack, and they came as a group, and I was like, I'm not about to be bulldozed into trying to lessen myself, Like I didn't do anything wrong, so I can accept that going forward, but like, I'm not going to apologize for for doing what you would have done.

00:19:02
Speaker 1: Who out of the women would you say it was like the ringleader and that because we do see and I want your thoughts on this. We do see, Alie, Joe push you pretty hard during the basketball game.

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Speaker 3: Which was after you had stolen him, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I guess that was my first inkling that something was up because like we had come back. I guess I don't know. I didn't say honestly, it's awkward, but like we're about to play basketball. That's more opportunities, Like if y'all want to go do something. Leave the basketball game still, like you know what I mean, Like there's other ways to make your mark, And so for me too, I'm a competitive person, but I'm also like a rule follower, Like I don't know if who wins the basketball game is the only people who gets the cocktail party, So I'm going to give it my all. We played basketball. My team was really good and the other team we like, all of a sudden, there was like a shift where they just all got so angry and as you saw, I was literally push on the ground and to me, I was like that's not basketball, and like, as I'm a wrestler, like I'm not going to sit here and fight it back, but are we being for real right now?

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Speaker 3: And I could take you?

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Speaker 2: I won't, but I could, That's what I'm saying. So to me at that point, I was like, oh wait, you guys are like being way too like aggress about this. And then there was like inklings that like they were saying, like whispering our team was being aggressive, and then it was like, oh, Zoe was being aggressive. And it's like during the basketball game, once we were up by so much, I started telling my team I was like stop, stop going full court, like we need to pull back. I was the one trying to be like, guys, we need to do less because these girls are getting pissed. So I was the one like trying to de escalate the situation, and I got no credit for that, and so it was just a really weird thing. And then yes I got pushing the ground. I didn't retaliate, like I was just like, this is a very weird vibe at that point. And then once we got to the cocktail party, I mean I think there was the two that were the loudest, and specifically we know the girl who pushed me Ali Joe. Not only is she screaming at me for for stealing time with him, which it's not stealing. We're all entitled and you could have like you can come ste him at any point. And at that point that flipped the switch in me, like because no one stood up for me.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to ask you. I was going to ask you, was there any women that were on that date that were like on your side at all?

00:21:33
Speaker 3: Or even like afterwards came up to him, was like, hey, things have gone too far, like or you on.

00:21:39
Speaker 1: Your you're on your own island at this point, with like no friends yet.

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Speaker 2: So I think, like, as I said, because it was such a quick turn around, obviously I'm very confident and like bold and yeah, so at that point I hadn't formed any friendships. I was like the last limo out and we're playing. I would have thought my team would have protesed me, but then suddenly they're trying to switch sides because I think, and again this is my the thing with women that I've had throughout over the years is just that mentality of like group think of like we all have to be on the same page otherwise we're going to ostracize and attack you. And I don't play that. Like me and my friends were all successful. We're all driven, like but in different areas. Do whatever you want to do, date who you want to date, dress how you want to dress. Like, I'm not threatened by them, I'm inspired by them. And I feel like a lot of times there's groups of women who need to like they have their leader and they just like go along with whatever they're saying. And at that point, the group of nine other women had the leaders telling them that I deserve to be attacked, and so during the evening, not a single person stood up for me, and by that point, like I'm in tears because what is going like what is literally going on right now? And that was like kind of just a really crazy experience to be in because I have not been in anything like that before and I definitely have not been like now, As I said, my group and the people, whether it be pageants, modeling, tack, all of them are just so supportive and just like so it's just so strange and.

00:23:16
Speaker 1: It's tough because you're like being filmed for the first time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like, and I'm being filmed this entire time, so you're like, you don't like you're also so hyper aware because if I go off and I say one thing to them, I'm like, I don't want to stoop to anyone's level, Like that was my one thing. It's I don't do that. And well, thankfully, actually i've grown very much the I've gotten old there to be to the point where like I'm not going to stoop your level, like you're not going to get me out of character, I'm not going to cuss you out, I'm not going to do these things, and I'm not going to gang up and attack someone for no reason.

00:23:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you said on the show, you said, I truly believe all is fair in love and war, And I feel like that kind of encompasses your approach of like you are taking a bold approach, like there's no question about it, Like you are making moves that are naturally going to ruffle feathers, not saying that the you know the explosiveness of the situation was justified, but you know you're going to kind of like pee people off a little bit. But you do seem to be accepting of whatever consequences, you know, whatever valid consequences come with that, And you're like, hey, this is the game I'm playing, Like you can play it too. We all have the freedom to move in whatever way we feel works best for our relationship with.

00:24:35
Speaker 2: Grant exactly, and as I said it, it's all spirit, love and more. And then if we had all talked about this, like hey, tonight, we're all going to talk to him one time and we agree to that and then I go steal him five times, then then I'm doing something wrong. But if we've not said that, like we didn't say it, don't take another date, Like it is all fair like, and I'm I'm so not going to operate in a way that's not authentic to me, Like I do bold things throughout my life, Like that is who I am. It's who I'm always going to be. It's not to it's not bold because I need attention, and it's not bold because I'm insecure. It's just bold because I like to do things a little bit different that like, you know, that's just the way I work, And you're allowed to do whatever you want to do. But you know, we'll see.

00:25:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's pivot to like the positive the positives of you stealing him, and take us to that conversation on the rooftop of how that went and if it went well.

00:25:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't see much of what you guys actually talk about. Yes, what was the interaction, Like, how do you feel like your gesture was received by Grant?

00:25:48
Speaker 2: Yeah? And Grant really liked it, like he was appreciative. He's like, I see you like I see you trying to step out. And the other reason I really did it too was because I'm a really shy per so naturally and it's something that I've worked over time, and I feel like in this environment and in these last few seasons where we have seen people there very very clearly not for the lead, Like I wanted it to be known to him that I'm trying to get to know you. I don't want to just show up and like ghost episode like week to week, like make it through, Like I genuinely want to see if we have a connection, because I don't want to be taking up any extra time if I'm not supposed to be here. And so that conversation was important to me, as I said, because I only had like two minutes with him on Night one to see, like what is our actual vibe? And we actually had a like cute little conversation about just like general things like food and travel and like what our type is normally, and like what we're looking for on the rooftop. Like he had asked me about some about my previous relationships, and I got to tell him, like, you know, my last partner was like very much gas lit, narcissistic and like made me feel really insecure, and I'm not looking for that again. And it was like a cute little moment. And so I was grateful that I got to do it because my time's valuable, his time's valuable, and yeah, it was just it was meant to be that. It wasn't meant to do anything else.

00:27:20
Speaker 1: What when we go to the night portion and then we see you and Li Joe kind of go back and forth when you are when you both were taking your time with Grant. That usually is always a rough situation to be in because it usually never works out for either party. How was Grant taking it?

00:27:42
Speaker 2: You know, I think Grant it was a nice man. He I don't think he minded like minded as much as like he could have like been like why is this already happening on night one? I think he was very much just like understood that it was a very aggressive day of basketball that was competitive to you know now the night portion, and like there was so many women all competing for the time during the cocktail party, Like it's how rare is it that ten women are all at one cocktail party and we don't know how much time any of us have with him, And so I think that was really nerve wracking for all of us. And I think he was just very like understanding of it. I know he saw like her storm out, which is the only reason I said anything, because it's not like I'm like, was it just trying to bring anything up to him, to bring some up to him, Like we were in the same room, and she like said something nasty and then like stormed off in front of him, and like he saw that, Like did she say at this point? I forgot? But that's when I was like, oh no, like I'm about to walk into that lionstand. But the thing wasn't. Again, I had the opportunity to steal him from her, or steal him from her quicker, and I literally like looked at a watch and was like, no, no, like five more minutes. I'll give her five more minutes. Like I just wanted to end the night with him on a good note because I knew there were so many targets on my back and like again, I don't know how I'm being perceived by him as being too aggressive or true dramatic or problematic, and I just really wanted to end on like a high note. And that was it. I just wanted to say good night and like see you hopefully next week, but yeah, just turn into this whole thing. And then I think he walked into us screaming and crying at each other to hand out the group date rose. So he was tryingly, what did I get myself into?

00:29:37
Speaker 3: Well, you know it's weak too, He's got a lot of time to keep feeling like that. He's the vachelor.

00:29:42
Speaker 2: He got himself into a lot exactly.

00:29:46
Speaker 1: So so you get so you end up getting a rose? Yes, where what's your headspace after you receive the rose? Now you have it seems like you have a lot of enemies in the how but Grant is clearly giving you validation. You gotta rose and he seems to be into you. So yeah, like like looking forward, what's going on?

00:30:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at that point because there was like it's so much on you at one time when like you do get involved in any drama because as I said, like you're not like me personally, and I'm sure like some people they love drama, they want to like be in these fights. I'm like, I don't want that. Like I'm here for love, I'm here for a husband. I want Grant to know me and I want to know him, but I'm also not here to apologize and to not be myself. And so it was just very much like I just hope that this drama is over, Like I don't understand I didn't understan where the girls were holding a grudge. They were still saying little comments during the rose ceremony to me about me, Like it was just so like stranged. I was like, are we really like doing this right now? Like it's we're moving on, We're past this week because you know, some people didn't make it, and yeah, so I was like, I really just wanted to stay out of the drama coming up. I wanted to see if granted actually a connection, you know. I was really hopeful that he saw that I was trying so hard and that hopefully next week I get one on one. Like those were like all the things that I was hoping for too, since it was such a tough time. I was hoping that like I'll have time to like for him to see me and not me trying to compete with many women. But yeah, I just.

00:31:38
Speaker 3: Moving excited. Yeah, but probably a little bit.

00:31:44
Speaker 2: It's nervous, it is. It was, yeah, just all of it. And like as I said, I hadn't been like in an environment like that since I lived with my parents from like years ago. So it was like a very strange situation to kind of feel like you were back in that environment as a grown adult. That was just really triggering for me.

00:32:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, what were your goals and intentions moving into week three? Were you feeling like you wanted to continue with the strategy that you had been moving with, or were you like, I think I'm gonna pull back. What were your kind of goals moving forward with how you wanted to navigate everything.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my approach was like at that point I had made in my mind like that's all I wanted. I was like, I just want him to see me, to hear me, to like hopefully get some sort of connection going. And I think we did, and like that was it. Like I'm not I don't need a bunch of time. I'm not trying to like constantly step on toes like and so for week three, I'm like, whatever comes my way, if it makes sense to steal him, if I get the one on one, like hopefully like I can utilize that and like tell him more about myself and like get to know him more. But by that point I was just so emotionally drained. Even though it was like the first week, the second week that I was just like I don't want to do anything that is going to put any more targets on the back because like, I genuinely don't want that and I can't really handle it.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Okay, we're going to play a game with you so people get to know you a little better before we do. If you were to tease next week with one word without spoiling it, what would it be?

00:33:31
Speaker 2: Oh? Shark pink?

00:33:36
Speaker 1: Oh nice?

00:33:38
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a first surprising.

00:33:43
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it.

00:33:44
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna do rapid fire. Get to know Zoe. It's just rapid fire, first thing that comes to your mind. We're gonna ask you some very very easy questions. Okay, what is your love language when it comes to receiving love?

00:33:58
Speaker 2: Oh? Quality time?

00:34:03
Speaker 1: What is your go to drink at a bar?

00:34:07
Speaker 2: And Martini or NEGRONI?

00:34:11
Speaker 1: Who is someone that inspires you?

00:34:14
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, I know this is controversial, but Kim Kardashian, like, if.

00:34:20
Speaker 1: You were on a deserted island and could only bring two girls from your season, Oh, who would you bring?

00:34:28
Speaker 2: Okay? I would have to bring Bailey because she is like the funniest person I've ever met, and she can recite every single show that you can think of. And Dina I love Dina.

00:34:41
Speaker 1: Favorite thing to cook.

00:34:43
Speaker 2: Ooh, I do a good surfing turf. It's a good date night dish too.

00:34:50
Speaker 1: Gold or silver, jewelry, gold heels or comfy shoes for a night out heels? Are you an early bird or a night owl?

00:35:02
Speaker 2: Night owl?

00:35:03
Speaker 1: What is your favorite thing about Grant?

00:35:07
Speaker 2: Oh? Good question. Well, I think he is just was like very had a protective energy, Like whenever we were together, just kind of felt very protective.

00:35:17
Speaker 3: So I like that. And last, but not least, if you could describe Grant season in one word, what would it be?

00:35:24
Speaker 2: Unpredictable?

00:35:27
Speaker 1: Okay, I like it.

00:35:28
Speaker 3: I feel like the promos are teasing a lot to come, so we're excited to see how your journey with Grant unfolds. Thank you so much for coming on, Zoe, Yes, thank.

00:35:38
Speaker 1: You guys, and thank you to all our listeners. And make sure you stay tuned to Bachelor Happy Hour because we will be having exclusive interviews with castmates all season long.

00:35:49
Speaker 3: And more recaps to come. Don't forget to tune into episode three of Grant season of The Bachelor next week and be sure to subscribe to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thanks for listening.

00:35:57
Speaker 2: By