The Mount Rushmore of D.C. Chaos: Trump, Bondi, Noem, Patel

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Brief Resess.

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael Foot, I'm Melissa Malbranch.

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Speaker 1: Today we're going to be talking about my Airbnb, nightmare, eating tiepods, are Ai fruit, saga, the twenty fifth Amendment, Christy Noleman her husband Pam Bondy a deep dive into the trial in Hawaii right now, and I'm going to answer all your questions from the DM so stick around. I do feel like Phoebe Buffet when I just have like fourteen totes. It's very like Elsbeth TASIONI to kind of like, come in that.

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Speaker 2: Show, Elsbeth.

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Speaker 1: Do you watch that?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Yes? And no, Andre likes it. So if he's watching it and we happen to like.

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Speaker 1: Elsbeth, yeah, that's actually really funny, is it?

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Speaker 2: And I And usually when he's watching it, I'm doing something else, but like I'm tuned in and I'm always asking him why she has so many fucking bags.

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Speaker 1: To feel like her, I do feel like her some days when I'm walking into court with like fourteen totes in my backpack, my bike.

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Speaker 2: Helmet, It's like, but what's what's in the bag, What's.

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Speaker 1: In the bag, what's in your bag?

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Speaker 2: What's going on.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into a sidebar. Let's get into a little personal story of what's going on this week. How are you so we've got this place where airbnb upstate?

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Speaker 2: I was, I'm fine, Michael.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Oh I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. How are you?

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Speaker 2: Fuck off? Tell me your stupid story? Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to tell her before I forgot. So, this woman's stake my Airbnb and there's like a little pond out back. Now it's like a natural pond. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you if it was man made.

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Speaker 1: All I got was a message that the pond her dog drank the water in the pond.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: And she was very upset because her dog is now sick.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like her problem.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, I didn't. I don't even she's mad at me. It's popping off because her dumb dog, her dumb dog. And I did feel very bad because I have a dog too. But I didn't like label at dog bowl like it's I just don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, though, what is the expectations.

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Speaker 1: She was upset that we weren't having the pond filtered.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what was truly I am, I'm so tired of people. I'm not even kidding, like I'm so, I'm just tired of people. This is why I stay inside. And this is why I stay inside because people are and I'm sure there's somebody listening is going to be why you're insufferable? Fine, I am, That's why I stay inside. I am tired of people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she was. She was very upset.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now what is she going to send you? That that bill?

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Speaker 1: Like what, I was like, I'm really sorry, question Mark. It's uh, it's like a natural like landscape, like I don't really maintain the grounds. It's a house upstate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so let me ask you this. You responded to her and you said that you were sorry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, I'm so sorry to hear that. I've got a dog as well. I would hate for any pet to be sick, truly, Like that was the honest truth.

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Speaker 2: And so then what then?

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Speaker 1: I was like, let me know if there's anything I can do. Definitely keep your dog on a leash as there. I feel like natural, like I'm trying to be like a nice well.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you let me say what you did wrong. You open the.

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Speaker 1: Door for her to be like, here's what you could do, what you can do, here's my fucking vet bill right. Well, I was I was like, is everything okay? Like I honestly was like, any is everything okay? Do you need me to do anything? Like? Why are you kind of telling me?

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Speaker 2: Like what would she need you to do? Now? You know, I think I'm more annoyed about this than you are. Right now, I just.

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Speaker 1: Don't understand, like now you're mad at me because I know herself.

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Speaker 2: I just I just I really want to know. So she reaches out to you and she tells you that the pond my her dog drank the water.

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Speaker 1: Because she's a dog. She let her dog off the leash right right into the pond.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then it rank the water got set and now now the dog is sick.

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Speaker 1: And it's and she's upset with me.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think what I said, because I'm always like a silver lining person, I said, I'm happy to update the check and instructions for any future guests remind them not to let their pet drink the pond water. And that is something I'm willing to do.

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Speaker 2: You know, this feels a lot like do you remember this?

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Speaker 1: There was people can say crazy ship. I just like kind of have to. But do you.

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Speaker 2: Remember when they needed to have warnings out to tell people not to eat the pod?

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Speaker 1: The tie pods, the tide pods of my neighborood are still under lock and key at the CBS.

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Speaker 2: That's because of theft.

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Speaker 1: That's because people were gobbling them up. People were doing bang.

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Speaker 2: No, no no, I understand that was but we noticed that the CVS. Everything is locked up. The soap, the eating, everyone's seeing the secrets, all the kids, the youths. The kids.

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Speaker 1: The youths are going in and gobbling the duve soap. That's what's happen.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. It's like you said, we've run out of ship to do, so people are snorting dove soap. They're chopping it up.

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Speaker 2: The ice cream is locked up well every day, you know what I'm saying, Like it's all locked up. They're melting it down and they're injecting it directly into their veins. Once upon a time, I probably would have done that. Kids and queens in the nineties shot, I mean grown adult women living in Flatbush.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that old neighborhood right now. Do you remember that restaurant, the Yummy Taco?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: Actually, okay, my best friend in college lived above the Yummy Taco.

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Speaker 2: What was that like?

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Speaker 1: She was a lesbian and she took great pride in living above the Yummy Taco because it's like a lesbian sex innuendo. Got it?

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Speaker 2: I got it? Okay.

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Speaker 1: All jokes that you have to explain are usually much better.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was just like, I was more thinking about what her apartment smelled like, because oh it was.

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Speaker 1: So it's like four or five stories about it's now the donut plant on Flatbush for people who are new to New York.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, it's allow the.

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Speaker 1: Donut I do too. There used to be one across my drip my gem. I switched Gems because I kept going, there's anyway.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say where it is, but I there's one that I can like on my commute home, and I avoided at all costs.

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Speaker 1: A donut plant. Oh yes you should. Yeah, it's really good. And it's one of these donu places that has lasted the test time in fifteen twenty years.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't been that long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I switched that gym in twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: He switches in because I mean, that's why is listen.

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Speaker 1: So it's like I can't keep no, you can't keep doing.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who makes a really good donut? Peter Pan. It's in Brooklyn. I think it's called Peter Peter Pan. It's it's so good, I'll check it out.

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Speaker 1: I got to go to Brooklyn because there's a thrift store owner who wants me to come check out the clothes there.

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Speaker 2: I am a thrifting addict and nobody has ever reached out to me.

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Speaker 1: No, because I've I sold my ass to the internet a long time ago. You did, And it is finally, it's years of arduous posting and finally there is something of getting vapes, of getting those resin things and the mail and the vaping for people who just want to get high and new and exciting ways. Finally, something I really really want has clin I'll text you on maybe maybe I know.

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Speaker 2: Well, So I texted Michael this weekend and I my text to him was sigh. And Michael rolled back and was like what And I was like, yo, well, yo, you always when I have a problem. Sigh is when I'm just depressed about something that I've done. And I said, uh, I just came back from an estate sale. I've been there for two.

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Speaker 1: Hours closing down the estates down.

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Speaker 2: The estate sale, and I bought a full set of China.

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Speaker 1: Melissa, I know, are you serving that many people?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess you did.

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Speaker 2: I hosted easter twelve people, twelve people.

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Speaker 1: Did you use it? You used it on? You bought it and I.

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Speaker 2: Bought it and used it right away. And I also because I made a poach salmon, I also bought this giant fish plicked.

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Speaker 1: Did you put like a really big salmon you poached? Wow? I love salmon.

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Speaker 2: You weren't Long Island. I was.

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Speaker 1: Longland. I was. I was.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into your algorithm of showing. Because you told me about your ai fruit, I got to tell you about what the insane things that's on my feet.

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Speaker 2: Now it's different. Now it's not just fruit anymore. I saw it fruit. Well, it's fruit, but now it's also boarding equipment, so like a basketball and a football have a thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I sent it to you because after you told me about the fruit, I started getting jewels, having sex. Yes, diamonds and rubies and.

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Speaker 2: Emeralds, random emeraldrating well with a rock with a rock.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So a diamond and a rock were married, and the emerald showed up looking like a hot slot at the diamond's house and was like, I'm sorry, I'm fucking your husband. Yes, mister rock. Yes, and went inside. And then because it's AI, they're sort of like messed up and weird, like very and the emeralds is like gyrating in the background while the diamond and the rock are breaking up, just like in a really weird like uncanny Valley kind of way, like the emeralds in the background.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was very weapons like the kids and weapons like running back.

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Speaker 2: So when they opened doors, the doors opened the wrong way on.

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Speaker 1: Top of the Yeah, driving away and they're they're climbing under the car to get it.

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Speaker 2: It's really weird. It's super weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but on my feed, so this is not a I this these are paid actors. Oh, but it's like a full TV show just on TikTok where you watch two minute clips and then you scroll to the next one, and it's just on TikTok. It's not promoting it on a TV network or something, and it's called Wrestling with Love. It's like the wrestling good is it really? It's got this like cult following now. It's blown up on my feed all weekend. Every other video I swipe is these two guys going to town on each other, wrestling on the wrestling Matt's Starcross Lovers, Enemies to Lovers. The dad is the coach and he.

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Speaker 2: Does the peries fortune.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a mini series for TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen also on TikTok they're they're Asian like soap operas, right, and they're always dub so and there's like one thing after another and it's somebody with some terrible calamity and then they're like get out, you whore, and like they kick the persons likewood or is it more like a Korean soap up? More like a Korean Yeah yeah yeah, but and like and the dubbing is always really weird because the lips don't match, so it's in it's probably in Korean, and then there's like this weird yeah, you whore, and and the thing is it's like always this very extreme thing. It's the same thing with like the ai fruit jews. Right, it's like, you know, we're gonna throw you in the garbage like and we're gonna yeah, we're just gonna, like, you know, throw you out and like and kick you.

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Speaker 1: And it's just like nuance and always.

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Speaker 2: Something like, oh you think somebody like me, you dirty whore?

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Speaker 1: Like a cliffhanger for the next episode.

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Speaker 2: And now I find myself like waiting for the next one. I'm like, what's going to happen?

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Speaker 1: There is this woman who is I actually want to be really sympathetic here for a minute, okay, because we were talking about a strange addiction last week. Oh yeah, there is a woman and I'm following her on her journey to.

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Speaker 2: Better health drawl okay from dia coke. Oh is this the woman who was drinking like fifteen die cokes a.

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Speaker 1: Day, eight sixty four ounce and she.

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Speaker 2: Was going to like seven eleven or something. And yes, I've seen her once.

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Speaker 1: I am following along.

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Speaker 2: How she doing.

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Speaker 1: I am riveted. She's on week four, okay, and she's doing okay. She is acutely aware of how much this is like a very dangerous addction. Yes, consume that much die coke, that much caffeine. Yeah, also expensive, right, and like, yes, she counted it all up. It's over six hundred dollars a month to drink.

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Speaker 2: On them, just like mad Yeah wow, I mean that is almost half a tank of gas in America right now. Almost.

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Speaker 1: So she's very self deprecating, which I love because she's not like, I don't get it. Why why is everyone freaking out? No, She's like, I get it. You should I should be freaking out right, and I am. And I love it because it's like this kind of cool situation where she's having the Internet hold her accountable. Okay, so she's being really honest with what she's what's happening, and she's posting all the time and she's breaking down the math of how many she's drinking when she's feeling like a craving and we're all there for her. We're all like I'm there for her, like we got this. I'm like, if you DM me when you're craving a DC girl, and I got you. I do too. You couldn't pay me to drink them, but if you wanted to, we're available for sponsorships.

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Speaker 2: We're easy. Yeah. I do not care for dyke. Yeah, I don't like die soda.

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Speaker 1: What's on your feed? You got the you got the emeralds, you cut the ruby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, nothing special, nothing new. Yeah, yeah, it was so oh, let me ask you this. For whatever reason, this weekend, it felt like a lot of people thought that the president was like unwell and dying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, there has been a rumor that the president was in the hospital. It is not true, okay, And I looked into it. No one can figure out where it came from. Right, there was a rumor. It kind of started percolating up, and now no one really knows where it started. It's definitely been debunked.

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Speaker 2: It's not right. No, I saw that he was I saw that he was not in the hospital. But it was this whole thing about there was like he was like secretly taken to Walter Reed and like people were very worried and whatever else. And what I think is really interesting is like all the people who were like fingers crossed, you know, sending blood clots and prayers.

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Speaker 1: And things like that, the Etsy witches.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what actually would change if something happened to him, Because there's a part of me that I will tell you that I actually I actually hope that nothing happens to him for a few reasons. A. I don't believe that the people who love this man, and there are people who love him, ye, would actually believe that a seventy nine year old man who only drinks diet coke and doesn't exercise and eats like shit would actually just die. Now, Donald Trump, my father, and Billkinson are all the same age, right.

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Speaker 1: Just like hearing it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so, I mean my dad died so that there's no reason to believe that somebody who's that age, who's not in good health, because he's not in good health, he's not in good right, that this person could not just die of natural causes. And I just know that the people who love him would be like Joe Biden did it? Do you know what I'm saying? Like somebody did it? He didn't just die somebody to in the mout It's like the lefties did it? Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And I am a Rachel Meadow right alock.

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Speaker 2: And I'm genuinely afraid of what his death in office would mean. I just think it would cause a lot of chaos. Yeah right, Oh, I think it would cause a lot of chaos. I'm genuinely concerned that they would be like violence, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: They're already so delulu like like yes, And then I think a lot of people would be partying and celebrating, and then there would be like in cells showing up with AK forty seven, correct, And I do think that would probably happen. There would be some sort of mass movement, but then people would jump into and then there would be violence. Concerned about that, and we've got unstable government, So who's in charge? Who's calling the National Guard if needed? Like?

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Speaker 2: And I know that of course, if things were to follow the protocol, JD. Vance would become president.

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Speaker 1: Like I killed the Pope, the Hope immediately shook his hand, night guy dropped fucking dead. JD Van stands for just killed du pope. You see that tweet. That's not my joke. That was a tweet. Just killed the Pope is what JD Van stands for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just but you know, I just think I'm concerned about the chaos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Oh yeah right, I would.

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Speaker 2: Not because I've got any soft and pink feelings.

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Speaker 1: Because I saw a tweet while everyone was talking about him being out, Walter read erroneously. This discourse online started about do you call me anyone if it happens yes, or do you wait until the next morning. It was like, nominate yourself. Do you want to be woken up or do you want to sleep through the night and be woken up the next day? For me, I'm like, it depends how late it is. Well, if it's five am, yeah, wait, I think, wait a couple, let me finish that rem cycle.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: But if it's two am and I can still turn the party, yeah, call me.

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Speaker 2: My initial gut reaction is call me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, But then I'm like, why you know what I mean? There's there's so whatever, nothing, There'd be nothing I could do regardless, right, Yeah, I will find out everything I need to know when I wake up, especially as somebody and this is such a bad habit, but somebody who wakes up and I look at my phone immediately, right, I would know right away. Odds are, I will say, though, odds are if it happens in the middle of the night, you're not going to know. Well, no, I I wake up a lot now, so you'll kind of I think I'll just I'll know and then I'll like poke, andre.

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't want to miss I don't want to miss like the moments, like the immediacy of it, right, Like so I do I think I do want to amend my statement to say, wake me up. I just want to like be awake for it. It's like his history kind of.

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Speaker 2: It's but it doesn't. I think it's still history.

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Speaker 1: Like when we like when we started the war with Iran, it was like three in the morning. I was still awake and I was.

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Speaker 2: But would you have been would you have wanted to be woken up?

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Speaker 1: No? No, because there's no reason for us to be in that fucking It's not like an actual it's like the war, is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like learning about it in the morning was enough.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, right, I think so.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like the same thing. If the president dies, like waking, I don't need to be woken up, I don't, nah. I think the more I think about it, the more I feel like.

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Speaker 1: I think there's going to be like a block party outside your house.

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Speaker 2: Though probably and you know I'll say this too, I am. I usually am not somebody who prays for the death of someone else, and mostly not because I'm above it, right, but because karmically speaking, I'm worried about myself.

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Speaker 1: Right, Like I thought you were going to say, because you don't pray at all, don't tell Magalie worried about yet, But you.

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Speaker 2: Know I don't. I don't. Sort of I feel like it. I'm so cheesy, right, but I feel like it throws out negative energy out there, and I don't want that on me. Not because I would be broken up if he died, because I wouldn't be I'm.

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Speaker 1: Curious why you think you're not throwing out any other negative energy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I think I do, right, So let me not put this on top of it, right, I like, that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I want to be messy, I'm calling you.

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Speaker 2: For sure, because you know I'm going to encourage you.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be like absolutely. I got into like kind of a like a slap fight over email with DHS this week. I wanted to call you, Oh that you can call me because I was like, you got the wrong girl, Like this is not I am not the person I'm friends with. Drag queens. You don't want to do this. You're like a nice twenty five year old lawyer for DHS. You don't want to start like you picked the wrong one.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they do that, sometimes the wrong one is picked.

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Speaker 1: You want to be passive aggressive over email, like this is going to be a master pass this is my master class. Get ready.

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Speaker 2: A while back, I got into like a stupid email thing back and forth with somebody and they and what I was like, you know, you are going to make me per my last email you at four fifty five on a fucking Friday, and I'm gonna wait. I'm going to wait to per my last email you, and I'm going to wait for you to get that in your inbox on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Monk.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, per my last email.

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Speaker 1: Every time I email with ice IT or DHS, it's evidence that I submit to the judge. I print that shut out and I upload it into the record and I say, your honor per exhibit D. My email exchange with DHS on this day.

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Speaker 2: Evidence is xyz.

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Speaker 1: All of this. I love catching them. This is the first time anyone's ever done that to them. Yeah, it's not going to be the last.

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Speaker 2: No, it won't be. No, I mean, especially especially now that they are being encouraged to do all this right, So they're going to going to make mistakes, huge mistakes, and hopefully whoever the person that would that sort of benefited from that mistake is going to have a good lawyer on their on their side to be like, actually, here, here are all the reasons.

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Speaker 1: That you feel because for every hundred mistakes they make, there's really only a couple of lawyers who use that to benefit the client. Everyone else does get deported, right, Like everyone else doesn't have someone there like fixing it or using it weaponizing it against them. Right. But I think the reason why everyone was talking about Walter what is it Walter White Medical Center? No Walter read Walter Breaking Bad.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch that show?

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Speaker 1: I watched all of it. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the straightest thing about me. There's like not a single gay character there isn't. No, No, it's like very much for I think a lot of straight guys like that shild.

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Speaker 2: My brother loved that show. There you go, I would sleep with me, No, he won't.

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Speaker 1: And I keep asking.

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Speaker 2: Even though you helped pick his wife's wedding dress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but she doesn't know. There was ten years before that of me asking if I could be set up with them Joey, I'm trying to get to see that Eastern I went.

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Speaker 2: To Albuquerque for work. Ones.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I remember I called you and I.

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Speaker 2: Had no idea that Breaking Back took place in Albuquerque. I didn't know. And on early corner here is so different. On every corner there's like a statue. I took a selfie with myself. I was like, and my brother's like, oh my god, go ex go here, go there, And I was just like, it's this dry ass desert town.

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Speaker 1: But I love that. They're like, we are the home of the most famous meth show.

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Speaker 2: An Albuquerque. And I mean, and there were parts of it that were actually really really beautiful, But I felt like Albuquerque reminded me of one of these places that is on the comeback of something really dire.

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Speaker 1: Like something like something happened like the dust Bowl. Yes, and they're and they're like, were last week, We're so sorry trying with us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there was a lot of that. Okay, the Mexican food was really good, but.

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Speaker 1: We're not sure what that calamity was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was the epidemic was yes, yeah, I didn't know if there was like an actual natural disaster. No, it wasn't a natural disaster. It was definitely a man made.

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Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm like, I really want to I really want to go check it out. Yeah, or like the or New Mexico, like Albuquerque, Santa Fe, like that is a place is really nice. A few domestic places I'm interested in going because I feel like the climate would really suit me.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: I like heat, but I like a dry heat. Okay, I love like a chili sweater evening by a fire. I think that could work for me sure. And I also feel like they've got a good spa game, like I feel like they do have like goods and Santa Fe. Santa Fe is where I should have. That's where I should go, or go.

00:25:07
Speaker 2: To Arizona, go to Sedona.

00:25:09
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to her.

00:25:10
Speaker 2: Oh I have a really good friend of mine. Shout out to Leslie who lives in Arizona, is dying to get me to come see her.

00:25:16
Speaker 1: Really all right, road trip?

00:25:18
Speaker 2: I know, well, no, no road trips. That's too far for me.

00:25:21
Speaker 1: But I was saying the Walter Waite Medical Center is because because everyone was talking about the twenty fifth Amendment, which is when we take the president out of office because they're either crazy or sick or undergoing surgery. Right, so they use the twenty fifth Amendment when a president is going under under the knife. Right. George W. Bush did it a couple times because he had procedures.

00:25:43
Speaker 2: Right, so did Biden. Yes, Kamala Hars.

00:25:47
Speaker 1: We're thinking about when JFK got shot and he was in surgery, they were like, we might do it, but then he died and so it just kind of they never invoked it, but they're talking about doing it because President Trump is acting so crazy lately. So the twenty fifth Amendment is really trending right now. And I have theories about why lately, but it's trending so much now. So I think people probably thought he was in some sort of procedure at the medical center, and maybe that's why the rumor started.

00:26:15
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe there is the reason why that rumor started, if you really well why what I what I heard is that he like canceled all the press for the rest of the day and he had a press conference scheduled and like he canceled everything for the rest of the day. And I think it was because they were doing that thing and I ran where they were trying to get the general back or whatever.

00:26:32
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's that's my assumption. But because they shot down two planes, two planes, and then they couldn't find the guy right.

00:26:39
Speaker 2: And got the one guy and didn't get the other guy, they fell. Yes, they did.

00:26:44
Speaker 1: My new source, Brad is not it's unreliable, unreliable narrat or I got to get the news somewhere.

00:26:51
Speaker 2: Else, as opposed from your husband.

00:26:53
Speaker 1: A ginger from Maine. I'm trusting that. Oh I don't know.

00:26:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I knew. I heard, I heard think the person. They got him back pretty quickly, Okay, the second one it took a little time.

00:27:07
Speaker 1: Do you feel like any lessons were learned with this experience for this government?

00:27:12
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:27:13
Speaker 1: No, you think that they were like, well, we got him back, so yes, no reason.

00:27:17
Speaker 2: To hold back then, Jerry, I feel like he's been like toting how great it was, Oh, we got him back for us.

00:27:22
Speaker 1: He had a press conference today where he said I didn't see that he wanted to run for the president of Venezuela himself.

00:27:29
Speaker 5: I'm pulling higher than anybody who's ever pulled in Venezuela. So after I'm finished with this, I can go to Venezuela. I will quickly learn Spanish. It won't take too long. I'm good at language, and I will go to Venezuela. I got a run for president.

00:27:41
Speaker 2: No he didn't.

00:27:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was like an hour ago.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see that.

00:27:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why people are talking about the twenty feth Everyone's talking about the twenty five mendment because definitely, and they're trying to keep him away from journalists because the things he's saying are just absolutely crazy.

00:27:55
Speaker 2: And what I love is, though, is the I did Trump in Azuela and the first thing that pops up is Fox News. So I feel like if Fox News is saying, yeah, to trust fox News, but like it's so it's so egregious that even Fox News.

00:28:08
Speaker 1: And the Post is reporting about how expensive gas prices are. Like even conservatives are talking about the twenty fifth Amendment like it's it's pretty bad right now, like.

00:28:17
Speaker 2: The Atlantic of Venice, Butla seems to be going well.

00:28:24
Speaker 1: But with the twenty fifth Amendment, you can remove a person from office if they sort of become like the mad King. And I think that's what people are talking about now. Because he was tweeting about Iran. He was like, Tuesday, we're gonna blow up Yeah, yeah, nuclear sights and all bridges if they don't open the strait of hormones.

00:28:43
Speaker 2: You know, the thing about him is that he's so deeply unpresidential in the way that he behaves himself and the way that he speaks. Because it wasn't just like, oh, we're gonna go tiren and blow this up. It was just like, we're gonna fucking take him down. Like it's it's really really.

00:29:01
Speaker 1: It's giving nursing home, it's giving hospice's, it's giving the bed that kind of press the button and it kind of rises to reach the kids.

00:29:09
Speaker 2: It's just so embarrassing. You know, I'm just so again, I'm so fucking tired of this man.

00:29:14
Speaker 1: I am a little bit invigorated as I watch these tweets go out because I think conservatives are really freaking out right now. Like it's it's less about me being tired of him and more about watching the rest of the GOP their mind really nervous because they're realizing their careers are over and that they have hitched their wagon to this person who is really mentally unstable.

00:29:39
Speaker 2: He's absolutely fading, for sure, really really bad.

00:29:43
Speaker 1: Like we've got the paint over the bruised hand, we've got the weird rashes, like we we really are. We can weekendspt Bernie quickly because we're getting there.

00:29:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like a marionette. Someone's got their hand on possessed.

00:29:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that it's not.

00:29:56
Speaker 2: A Marianne as a puppet.

00:29:58
Speaker 1: Sorry, thank you, that's what some Please respect the puppeteering community. They're the most terrifying people. They think dolls are humans. They're making dolls look like humans. I'm worried they're going to show up at the studio.

00:30:13
Speaker 2: There was somebody who was a guest on a television show for kids. Don't know if I'm allowed to say the television show, but there's Sesame Street, and and they said that one of the things that like freaked them out as a person who had also grown up watching Sesame Street was seeing Big Bird in the corner kind of like a man like no, no, no, it was like there was nobody in it. Yeah, So he was just like and how it like freaked them out because you grow up and Big Bird is like this real person, right, he's animated, and then all of a sudden he's not. He's a lump of feathers in the corner.

00:30:55
Speaker 1: That would freak me out.

00:30:57
Speaker 2: Would freak me out.

00:30:57
Speaker 1: Remember Chucky Cheese. When after the show is over, the animals would kind of like, I didn't know Chucky Cheese. It was sort of these animatronic creatures.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: Cheese a place where little kids went yeah, yeah, okay, but they would have these animatronic creatures rats, I think there were rats, and they would perform like a song, and then the show would be over and the lights would go off, but you could still see them and they would be like like, it's a small world at Disney wherever. It's like, it's weird. Kids.

00:31:30
Speaker 1: My friend just come back from Disney. Does she have a good time with strep throat?

00:31:34
Speaker 2: Oh no? Yeah, so that'll do it.

00:31:36
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. People are priced out the cost to go to Disney in Japan. They said it's cheaper to just fly to Japan and go to Disney here. Yeah. I'm like, that actually sounds kind of great.

00:31:50
Speaker 2: The whole thing is like Disney World and places like that are supposed to be geared towards families, right, And now it seems that this thing that you used to want to be able to family who cares about.

00:32:01
Speaker 1: Those They've got to go to Disney, Melissa. They they need a break. Okay, we're so off topic with the twenty fifth Amendment? Was there anything else we wanted to say before we moved on?

00:32:10
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this just what are the what do you think would need to happen besides the president dying? Right?

00:32:18
Speaker 1: So the tea was basically this one post on truth social is what sent the Internet on tinder hooks because he was threatening nuclear sites. Yes on truth Social Yes, and experts are saying Iran has already lost their leader. They have no interest in negotiating with us. They have nothing to.

00:32:38
Speaker 2: Lose, nothing to lose, correct, And so.

00:32:40
Speaker 1: They're like, we're just going to close the street, and like you've already left many of our cities and shambles, why would we reopen it. They're just sort of we're in a staring contest with the country that doesn't have eyelids, like they're we're just kind of waiting for them to blink, and they're not going and they're not going to and so he's keeping they have the ultimatum on Tuesday in this really wild, unhinged away Yes and now everyone's like, well, okay, it's Tuesday o'clock. What are we going to do on Wednesday?

00:33:13
Speaker 2: Right?

00:33:13
Speaker 1: Are we actually going to strike a nuclear sight in Iran?

00:33:18
Speaker 2: Right?

00:33:18
Speaker 1: And so that's why everyone's getting really nervous and talking about the twenty fifth and so more and more congressmen and women are coming out against Trump and saying pressuring the cabinet to invoke the twenty fifth Amendment.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: You think they're going to no, Right.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: But it's like putting them in a position where they have to say, no, we're not going to, and we're going to stand by this. Yes, is like scoring points for no.

00:33:40
Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you again. I think what I'm worried about with anything like that is not just the act itself, but the chaos that will ensue afterwards, because there will be again the people, Yes, people who love him will not buy this.

00:33:56
Speaker 1: And I will never forget the peaceful nap I was taking on January sixth when I woke was woken up to like like the Amber alert on my phone about the insurrection, which of course everyone down placed now well not everyone conservatives downplay it now right, protest, but we were the government has fallen on a train to Canada, like what do we do? Like it was honestly, I had meetings in place. Yeah, people were like, yeah, I think a court.

00:34:32
Speaker 2: Or because I think you know, the thing is like we couldn't believe what we were seeing, right, And and it was like and so what I think is funny is so obviously that my family from Haiti, a bunch of my cousins were like, that's a coup.

00:34:48
Speaker 1: Yes, nations are acutely aware.

00:34:51
Speaker 2: You know what a coup is. Yeah, that's a coup.

00:34:54
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a coup. Yeah. And it was your family and Haiti who said that, right, They were like, how's the coup today? Yeah?

00:35:00
Speaker 2: Welcome that is.

00:35:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah exactly. I mean this was the image.

00:35:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so crazy. I mean, and the idea that they want us to believe that that was a peaceful protest that people broke into you know, broken too.

00:35:16
Speaker 1: Isn't one of them like in a government position now, like one of the guys, like the guy who had the horns, Oh that guy Nancy Pelosi's desk, Like isn't didn't he?

00:35:26
Speaker 2: Which one of them like took a ship someplace like I mean, there were some people I mean it was just and the idea that oh this was nothing to see here.

00:35:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, had news that's for Nancy Pelosi out in the yard. Yes, right, they really were like they went with the intent to execute people.

00:35:42
Speaker 2: Can you imagine what would have happened if they were able to get somebody. Yeah, and there's.

00:35:48
Speaker 1: All these I have friends who were working in there that day. They had they were like snuck out through the back exit into cars and left. Yeah.

00:35:59
Speaker 2: My face thing is to see like the Republican congressman like running. I can't remember there was like one. There's one especially who was like running and I was just like.

00:36:10
Speaker 1: Look at you like a crazy transphobe.

00:36:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of huge boobs, speaking of huge boobies, just titties, this Christy Noome. This could not have happened to a better bitch. What I love about this more than anything the audacity of this woman to say, please give my family some privacy at this time. Go fuck yourself. This is the same when I think but all serious, this woman I know has caused so much harm, hurt and humiliation. Dog, and you want privacy.

00:36:55
Speaker 1: I know if the hypocrisy.

00:36:59
Speaker 2: It is my blowing to me and like and the other thing is like her husband with the pursed lips and like the giant titty.

00:37:08
Speaker 1: You know, it's less about the cross dressing for me, and it's more about like the face, the money. What, yeah, what I like, Okay, So I was like so careful because of course it's going down. And when it was happening, happening in the moment, yeah, I was like, oh my god, this is crazy and everyone on the internet is starting to lose their shit, and I'm like, oh and I loved every second of it. But I'm like, Okay, what if this is actually like a trans person's like foray into cross dressing, right, because this happens a lot like her husband. Yes, what if this is like the first entree into gender, like playing around with gender.

00:37:48
Speaker 2: So here's the thing, right, Actually, if this was, if this was not Christine Nomes's husband, then I could be much more supportive of it, right. I would be like, okay, you know, And the only thing I will say is that, let's say you are a woman who's married to a man and you don't know that that's happening, yes, and for that to come out would be difficult, right, very very difficult, And I would be very empathetic for that person. Yes, not Christine. No, not Christie.

00:38:17
Speaker 1: Any dunking on her I'm here for.

00:38:19
Speaker 2: And it's not because your husband is I don't know, cross dressing or transitioning, that's not the problem. Yes, you, Christine Nome is the problem.

00:38:30
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to know what I want to do. Yes, exactly.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: I think anything that caused her discomfort makes me happy.

00:38:36
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think, like I don't care.

00:38:38
Speaker 2: How that sounds either, when I don't because she's she's she's so awful and awful to other people, innocent people, that anything that causes her tremendous harm.

00:38:51
Speaker 1: I was like, this man has directly benefited from this administration, from being married to this person, Like, there are so many choices being made here. I don't feel bad dunking on.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: Her at all. Not at all.

00:39:07
Speaker 1: Someone said, puppy's so big, I'm suppressed and shoot them. That was the number one pinned comment on a video I saw, and I loved it because I actually was like, if we are looking at this as like a supportive gender I'm like, we're not actually making fun of him cross dressing. We're talking about how big the boobies are.

00:39:28
Speaker 2: Were big.

00:39:28
Speaker 1: Someone said no more.

00:39:32
Speaker 2: I can't.

00:39:34
Speaker 1: Did you see that cash Betel's pornhub his email got hacked? Okay, I actually want to qualify the statement that his email got hacked. I think someone just I think his password was probably like password one two three, yeah for sure, and someone just guessed it like a fourteen year old guys, I'm number one, like cash one, yeah, like cash me outside.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: So how about that?

00:39:57
Speaker 1: So someone hacked his porn and we just moved right on because the booby photos dropped, everyone moved. I think it was the porn.

00:40:07
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was the boobies. Well I heard about the booby before I heard about the porn. The stupidest conversation, literally, Federal is the stupidest conversation that I mean. But we're living in the most I know. It's like stupid times, like the perfect.

00:40:26
Speaker 1: Time to start a political podcast. We should do that. We should this idea. There's so much to talk about, you know what.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: There's a lot to talk about, but like, how do we fix this? It was so bad?

00:40:39
Speaker 1: I remember when when Feepe did its final season. Did you watch fet I.

00:40:42
Speaker 2: Did not watch fun?

00:40:43
Speaker 1: Okay, inep truly, Louis Dreyfus and her like Emmy speech. She was like, it's becoming increasingly difficult to create a political parody right now.

00:40:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she was like, so this is.

00:40:56
Speaker 1: Our last season.

00:40:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:40:57
Speaker 1: No, So we honestly can't paradise what's happened.

00:41:00
Speaker 2: Because the thing is, every time, for example, every time I hear about something that Trump said and it comes across my social media, there's a part of me that is just like, he couldn't have said that, And then I go and I look for it and there it is, and I'm just I don't know, but I'm just constantly horrified. But then then I'm annoyed at myself for being surprised, because you should know better.

00:41:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. I found lately like, so I do my little diva diva and I've started to really fact check what I put in there because I've noticed I read a study that like thirty percent of gen Z gets their news from people like me who are just like posting on the internet. And I never thought about it with like that much responsibility, Like I really am saying diva.

00:41:45
Speaker 2: Right and just like being whatever.

00:41:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's truly as I'm like on my way to work, so I started to be like, oh wait, I've got a really fact check what I put in the divas. Uh huh, so doing a lot of googling before I said it's I don't think. I don't want. I don't want to spread misinformation, and sometimes I am wrong and I do have to take it down. Yeah, have you ever had to do that?

00:42:11
Speaker 2: I don't post like you post? Okay, do you know what I mean?

00:42:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not chronically online like me.

00:42:16
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm chronically online. I'm just not chronically posting.

00:42:19
Speaker 1: Do you see that's a huge difference.

00:42:21
Speaker 2: It's a huge difference.

00:42:22
Speaker 1: Everyone talks about that. Do you have like mental illness around social media? Because I have the opposite, it making me life. People talk about like depression and anxiety.

00:42:30
Speaker 2: No, I don't feel I'm not. I don't feel depression or anxiety.

00:42:33
Speaker 1: But we also got there as adults, like right fully formed.

00:42:37
Speaker 2: Yes.

00:42:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I was doing crossword puzzles up until two thousand and one for entertainment. It was a game boy. Yeah, it was like there was nothing else to do.

00:42:46
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that I did not grow up in a time where I was on social media as a as a young person. Oh the stupid shit that I did.

00:42:56
Speaker 1: We would have been canceled.

00:42:57
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't know that it would have been sold so much as just my personal foolishness just out in the ether for all to see forever and evor.

00:43:08
Speaker 1: I would have loved to see that, do you know what I mean? I would pay money to.

00:43:11
Speaker 2: I was fucking messy. Yeah, I know, but like, yeah, stop saying it like that. But I'm just really glad to tell them, tell them so messy, so messy. I think I told you, Like my mom, you know, she's been listening and she was like, wow, Missa, you's a lot of lies. You lied to us a lot and and and the thing is my my comeback to that is yes I did because they wouldn't let me do anything. So if they had not been like that, then I wouldn't needed to The raptors.

00:43:50
Speaker 1: Are testing the cages. It's Jurassic Park.

00:43:53
Speaker 2: But she's she's just like disgusted. She's I told you, she's always saying that we lost money, we lost I've told you that, Yes, O, we love the ROI is not ro.

00:44:05
Speaker 1: On, Melissa, not what they hope immigrant parents. It is so And you.

00:44:10
Speaker 2: Know what's really funny about that is I'm okay, Like that's that's fine. Yeah, I'm good.

00:44:16
Speaker 1: I would say half my job is managing immigrant parents with because their client, my client is their child I.

00:44:24
Speaker 2: Love and I bet you they want you to tell them all the thing. Yes, and they don't understand that.

00:44:32
Speaker 1: I don't work for them, right for the kid. I don't represent you. Yes, And I don't have to tell you anything, even.

00:44:39
Speaker 2: If they're paying you. Oh yeah, and they don't understand that. When I first started college, my dad was just like, how come we don't get like a report card? And I was like, well, you don't get it. I get it.

00:44:53
Speaker 1: I'm an adult now, dad, right, And he was just.

00:44:56
Speaker 2: Like what and I was and then he was like show it to me and I was just like, but.

00:45:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wanted to talk about Pam Bondy, Right? Did you have a message from miss BONDI say it straight to camera.

00:45:09
Speaker 2: You are at home, Pammy? How you doing, sweete pie? How does it feel? How does it feel?

00:45:19
Speaker 1: You're talking as if you were recently fired from the administration.

00:45:23
Speaker 2: Just I'm just curious, Pammy, how you doing? How do you feel? How are you filling your days?

00:45:28
Speaker 1: Probably reading stories of victims in the Epstein file.

00:45:32
Speaker 2: Probably not again. I think what I what I find so fascinating, what I love is that everyone thinks, no one believes that they're going to be the one that he throws under the bus, even though we have seen him repeatedly, Oh backed up the bus, just constantly using folks as speed bumps. Is constantly and they're and they're always he was the president loves me. He's not going to be me.

00:46:00
Speaker 1: Sorry, I keep bringing it back to the twentyth Amendment. Scaramooch. She tweeted today. He tweeted today and he was like, we really need to invoke the twentieth There's another one who got fired. But yeah, PAMBONDI, how does it feel to get fired for mishandling the investigation of the person who fired you? Like that is actually one.

00:46:21
Speaker 2: Can't even It's so stupid. It is so profoundly dumb, right that. You know, Sometimes I'm just watching the news and that's why I turned it off. Sometimes I'm like, yes, I don't, I am not. I'm not getting better for watching this. I feel like an idiot. Like I'm living in this really weird parallel universe. We're living in the upside down.

00:46:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I almost feel like Pambondy wasn't fired for mishandling the Epstein files. I feel like she was fired because she like left the stove on in the office, like you know what I mean, Like she didn't like refill the coffee filters, and they were like Trump was like, I'm so sick of this.

00:46:58
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

00:46:59
Speaker 1: There are no straws, and the fired her for that, Like I feel like there wasn't even it wasn't even directly related to It's.

00:47:07
Speaker 2: Like her actual work. He's got tired of her ship.

00:47:10
Speaker 1: It wasn't even the congressional hearing.

00:47:12
Speaker 2: I'm just tired of you, Pam or it.

00:47:13
Speaker 1: Was the congressional hearing, but it was like it was like something she said she didn't She wasn't nice enough to him. She didn't like compliment his outfit that day, like on her way to the hearing. Wasn't the actual content of the hearing.

00:47:26
Speaker 2: This is totally random, having nothing to do about anything, but this is what I wanted to say to you. So I know that you're not a big sporting person, nor am I.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: Like we're wrestling with love on TikTok.

00:47:38
Speaker 2: Which I can't wait to see. But the World Cup is coming up, and I think all the countries came out with their songs, right, so each country has a theme song, right, Okay, So Brazil's came out and it's fucking hot.

00:47:53
Speaker 1: It's a banger.

00:47:54
Speaker 2: Rance came out it's fucking hot. Yeah, Portugal hot, oh no. The United States of America it was it like the Wiggles. It's almost do you know that song? And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know it's giving that.

00:48:13
Speaker 1: It's giving like Chris Rock RFK workout videos.

00:48:16
Speaker 2: Not Chris Rock. It is so bad, I'm sure. I'm just embarrassed for us. I mean yeah, and it's floating around and people are just like, what.

00:48:28
Speaker 1: Do you watch Eurovision? Did you ever? Do they play it at the gay bars like it's a Madonna music?

00:48:35
Speaker 2: Oh really?

00:48:36
Speaker 1: And it's on every screen and I'm like, who is that? It's like someone from you has someone like just step touching from Belarus. So I'm like what, it's like, what is this?

00:48:47
Speaker 2: That's all I just it came across my feet and I was like listening to all the songs and I was just like, oh, that's hot, that's hot. And then They're like, oh no, no, no, I mean, you know, I wonder I didn't. I meant to see who they They could have gotten anybody to do something really good. Guy could have been Cardi B. But they got like basically, what's the name Lee Greenwald or whoever it is, a guy who did the American song. It's so bad. It's like somebody took a glass of skim milk and added water to it. Like it's so bad. It's so so bad anyway, I just wanted to bring that up water down.

00:49:27
Speaker 1: Country music can be the worst.

00:49:30
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so god anyway. The twenty fifth.

00:49:33
Speaker 1: Amendment, that's what that's why, That's how we got him out of office.

00:49:39
Speaker 2: That's how we get the worst fucking FIFA song ever.

00:49:46
Speaker 1: This is under oath. I want to do a deep dive into this case that I've been following. It's all it's actually all over my feed. Okay, there is this crazy trial in Hawaii right now. Yes, yes, I'm so excited to talk about it. The testimony is unbelievable, so obvious. This man is guilty. And the wife is beautiful, incredible, brilliant nurse. She seen she seems so awesome and as a defense attorney watching this, I'm like, how did this fucking get to trial? Just to give you, like a background on the case, Ariel Koenig and Gerhart. Koenig is the defendant and Ariel is the victim. So he tried allegedly, he's on trial for attempted murder and he's looking at a potential life sentence. So they were hiking, right, yes, So the background is that he found a bunch of texts on her phone with another man.

00:50:46
Speaker 2: Oh okay.

00:50:47
Speaker 1: Then a couple of days later, was like, let's go hiking for your birthday. After they got in this huge fight while they're hiking, and she went, she went, which is, you know, we've all been there.

00:50:57
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, I've got you know, amateur hour.

00:51:00
Speaker 1: I've gone to some weird concerts with guys I had crushes on. What if you've done weird things with the guy you like, we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on. And so they go to this hiking trail in Hawaii and according to her testimony, which because it's his ongoing this is currently in the court in Wahu, he hit her with a rock and to push to push her off a cliff. And then when she didn't go off the cliff, he took out a syringe because he's an anesthesiologist.

00:51:34
Speaker 2: I didn't know about that part.

00:51:35
Speaker 1: Tried to inject her with something, okay, and they were fighting. There was They fought for like a while on this remote cliff in Hawaii. I mean it really does sound like.

00:51:45
Speaker 2: Like like a battle till almost a death right lotus.

00:51:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, and these two other hikers nurses heard her screaming because she was just screaming at the tumper of lungs. He's like attacking her hand over the mo like all that, and came running and he like kind of like god, he scamper, caampered, fled. I can't believe I just said scampering.

00:52:11
Speaker 2: It happens. This is a scamper.

00:52:12
Speaker 1: It was a scamp. You can't take anything various on the shelf. This is not hard news.

00:52:20
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, he didn't scamper. He ran briskly scamper.

00:52:27
Speaker 1: This little scam scampered.

00:52:28
Speaker 2: I mean he didn't meander away. No, he definitely didn't stroll away.

00:52:31
Speaker 1: So he panicked, facetimed his son, who's like a teenager.

00:52:36
Speaker 2: Oh my god, And I want to.

00:52:39
Speaker 1: Say fourteen fifteen, maybe seventeen teenager because I honestly don't know, but I know he's like an adult ish anyway, it's.

00:52:47
Speaker 2: Not boyhood, but it's not not yet.

00:52:50
Speaker 1: Not a girl, a woman who did should have done the song we should have had Britney Spurs twirling with knives in her.

00:53:00
Speaker 2: Videos that she got arrested. Yeah, we can, you know, sorry, go ahead.

00:53:04
Speaker 1: You can't keep a bad bitch down. No, you can't keep her down.

00:53:07
Speaker 2: No, but I've been worried about her. My friend, my friend keeps sending me. My friend keeps sending me the videos of her, like dancing in her house with knives. She's holding my knives, but like she always looks like really unkempt, like greasy hair, like it's.

00:53:24
Speaker 1: If you're a Britney Spears impersonator, I want to hire you to twirl at my birthday party with knives because I think that actually would be like the best Brittany impersonator.

00:53:31
Speaker 2: To Anyway, I'm sorry, And back to this guy who is.

00:53:34
Speaker 1: Trauma that he scampered away and facetimed his teenage son and said that he tried to kill her. He admitted to his son.

00:53:44
Speaker 2: That he tried to kill his mother.

00:53:46
Speaker 1: Yes, nice, according to the son's testimony. So he's on the stand, he's got his son, he's got it testified against his dad.

00:53:53
Speaker 2: Horrible.

00:53:54
Speaker 1: That's truly some whiteload of ship.

00:53:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:53:56
Speaker 1: And so mister Koenigg gar Her Konig, I'm not saying like we should judge people based off their names, but if we were too, but that's a fucking murderer's name. I'm sorry, Gerhart.

00:54:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's giving, it's giving.

00:54:10
Speaker 1: I did it well, it's giving.

00:54:12
Speaker 2: Guilty like historical did it?

00:54:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, historically.

00:54:17
Speaker 2: We're going to get so much.

00:54:21
Speaker 1: But but you're right, like yeah, if like yeah, if there's a lineup, I mean it's Smith Smith Smith, Gerhart Konig, I'm.

00:54:31
Speaker 2: Like Gearhart, I don't.

00:54:33
Speaker 1: Know sh there.

00:54:35
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway there. So the son had to testify against his dad, and.

00:54:39
Speaker 1: So Gerhart yeah testified the next day, okay, and was like, my son misunderstood me. That's a very dad thing to say. That's like, that's such a dad.

00:54:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, didn't he didn't understand? So what did what did the dad say? He actually meant he was like, oh.

00:54:58
Speaker 1: No, we got in like a fight there was an alter case. So the dad's testimony, Gerhart's testimony is that she attacked him and that they got into this fight and that everything was self defense.

00:55:08
Speaker 2: Okay, the needle.

00:55:11
Speaker 1: And so the needle, no one can really corroborate. It's only her testimony.

00:55:15
Speaker 2: Okay, we didn't find the needle.

00:55:16
Speaker 1: I think that's why this is going to this went to trial and wasn't pled out. It's because it really is like dangling off a cliff. He said. She said okay on a lot of fronts, except for the spacetime call and the fact that the hikers heard her screaming.

00:55:28
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:55:29
Speaker 1: So those are like the the evidence where everyone's like, oh, Gerhard did it, and the name.

00:55:33
Speaker 2: Gerhart, and so that's really what it is.

00:55:36
Speaker 1: In his testimony on Wednesday, Gerhart Koonig denied having how to syringe with him okay, and he denied telling his son during the video call that he tried to kill Ariel a Meal. The son is nineteen, okay, so definitely not a girl, not yet a woman right, testified Tuesday that his father had said he tried to kill her. The son, Emil, is living with me in Hawaii now. He is no longer affiliated with Dad. Okay, he broke his record deal. He is living full time with mom.

00:56:09
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:56:09
Speaker 1: And so Gerhart testified yesterday that Ariel tried to push him from a trail after they had the argument about the emotional affair over text message.

00:56:20
Speaker 2: Okay, when is this coming to a resolution?

00:56:23
Speaker 1: They're supposed to deliberate this week. Okay, so we're going into deliberations probably, Like so the time this episode airs, we might have a verdict.

00:56:30
Speaker 2: The worst case scenario for Gearhart is that he does go to prison forever for life. Yeah, what is the best case scenario for him? Could you get off scott free?

00:56:44
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:56:44
Speaker 2: He could?

00:56:45
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay, so if they I mean, double Jeopardy binds when the jury seats is seated after wadier That is when Double Jeopardy sort of like is linked to the defendant, so it can't be tried again. And whatever happens, whatever that verdict is, is binding, and he could he could walk away from you walk laugh. They find that there wasn't enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Yikes, I know, it's kind of crazy.

00:57:10
Speaker 2: It is crazy.

00:57:12
Speaker 1: So a defense attorney will it Usually I definitely advise my clients don't testify, because it's just it can go so many ways, and you've got a room full of people judging you and every word you say, and if you say one wrong thing, your toast. So that attorney definitely, we don't know what their private conversations are like, but I would imagine he advised him don't testify. But defense attorneys can't keep victims or witnesses from testifying. I mean, that's the prosecutor's whole case unless they can. What they can do is try and to peach their character on cross examination. So that's sort of how you would undercut the wife's testimony. But she said that she scooted towards the hikers on the trail and told them he was trying to kill her, was what she said.

00:57:57
Speaker 2: She's not a nurse, She's not she's a nuclear engineer.

00:58:01
Speaker 1: Oh the nurses found her. She's an engineer, Okay, so of anything. So basically they would have to lose the trial and then she could, I guess, face charges of attempted murder. But her entire defense will be you already tried this case on a different defendant and it didn't work, so it wouldn't be a very strong case. And she would have a strong defense if it came down to you, he said. She said her entire defense could just be this the outcome of this other trial. Like that's pretty prejudicial, okay. And so there are some really gruesome photos of her injuries. She's got like a huge cut on her head. And he said that he hit her in the head with the rock in self defense multiple times, multiple times. And she's really little, she's really tiny, and he's like like kind of I mean, he's not huge, but he's a strong man. So the notion of that happening and that he would really need a rock to push her off of him and like hit her in the head, I don't know, it doesn't seem.

00:59:03
Speaker 2: I'm looking at some pictures. Oh some of the pictures are blurred out.

00:59:06
Speaker 1: They don't Yeah, you know, they're actually really garish.

00:59:10
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

00:59:11
Speaker 1: So we're going to see what happens with this trial in a couple days. Maybe we'll have an outcome. Next week we could talk about the verdict. Yeah, because I love when they interview the jurors after and they talk about because there's always some shit happening in the jury room. There's always something interesting you know what I always.

00:59:26
Speaker 2: Wonder about things like this is like how most people who get married, you get married because you love each other, right, and you want to be together.

00:59:35
Speaker 1: How do we get to a place where we're dangling off a cliff, right, beating each other with rocks, correct and syringes?

00:59:40
Speaker 2: I mean, and I understand people get divorced all the time and all those but like, what and that that part is not the divorce part. It's it's the it's the violence, right, especially if if you've been in a relationship where there has not been violence, yeah, right, and then all of a sudden there is.

00:59:57
Speaker 1: So I think this. So I've seen this happen with some of my clients and people. I know. Violence isn't always physical, right, So I've seen a lot of And also in this case, there were accounts of emotional violence of like really narcissistic behavior on his part where he felt very controlling over her. And it wasn't necessarily fisticuffs, but it was tantamount two emotional and emotional mental psychological abase. Okay, so this was really an escalation. But this happens all the time. I know, it happens every single thing. Everything, But the happening in a relationship. And then it's like we didn't no one knew, how could we possibly know that he was going to blow up like this? But it was this one little thing. It was a powder cake.

01:00:48
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you remember a few episodes back we were talking about you know, I had said that every woman has a man who right, And I do think, like, there have been times where you're so angry that you you don't know that no outlet for the anger, and the first that you want to do is to like do something to that person. And it's only your own self control, like the voice in your head that says you need to calm down immediately, that allows you to not go there, you know what I mean.

01:01:20
Speaker 1: The thing I'm learning is that people are fucking crazy. People are really crazy. There are a lot of crazy people.

01:01:28
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think just generally we are not okay. Yeah, you know, people are kicking people on this away. People are like, you know.

01:01:36
Speaker 1: We're not okay, and so they're really like my advice, I guess. And this is we're getting into advice tells from the DMS A little bit. Is if you're even a little bit concerned, it's important that you take steps to protect yourself. Yeah, and like get into a safer situation. Very blanket advice here.

01:01:59
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But because.

01:02:01
Speaker 1: So many people are not okay, you don't know if you're living with one of them. Sometimes, because sometimes when I've been not okay, I didn't know I was not okay. Not that I was violent, but I've had times in my life where I was experiencing such mental distress. I didn't realize I was basically in a state of like manic psychosis, and I just didn't realize. I thought I had a lot of energy, gotcha. I thought I was drinking too much coffee, which she does. But yes, yeah, seeing double vision and fly highway.

01:02:34
Speaker 2: It is really interesting when you find it, because I have found myself there right, angrier than I've ever been, and it's almost scary.

01:02:44
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I didn't know that.

01:02:46
Speaker 2: I did not know that I was capable of feeling this way.

01:02:49
Speaker 1: And I don't trust anyone more than I trust myself. So to imagine someone else in my life could be on the brink like that and I don't know, and that they could snap, that makes me nervous. No, Yeah, That's why I'm like anytime anyone my friends or clients is talking to me about a maybe or they're concerned about a something. I'm always like, okay, hear, like the three contingencies we have on the table right now, you know, yeah.

01:03:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, regardless. The son, this nineteen year old young man who has now been put in a position to go to trial and testify against his father because his father allegedly tried to kill his mother. I can't even imagine what that must be like for this kid.

01:03:33
Speaker 1: And now he's on the stand, Now he's on TV, every news.

01:03:36
Speaker 2: Everyone's going to know that he had to do this thing. And yeah, it's like when you see these shows, like dateline shows where somebody realizes that, you know, their mother killed their father and it's like such a shock to them and I can't you know, and you're in this place of like, I still love this person, but they've done this thing, I know, and really hard. It must be possible, it must feel impossible.

01:04:01
Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break, Okay, and we'll get into the DMS. Let's talk about what people are questions people are sending.

01:04:07
Speaker 2: Me, will.

01:04:09
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get into tales from the DMS. These are the weirdest things. Y'all have sent me everything but the nudes.

01:04:15
Speaker 2: Friends, what do I always say? While Michael is a lawyer, he's not your lawyer, so you should probably get your own.

01:04:23
Speaker 1: Sorry, Okay, we've got some reviews.

01:04:26
Speaker 2: So this is from our AFREMA episode, and somebody emailed in and said, I usually enjoy your show. Oh usually, But if you think the cities in PA can be conflated with the woman being interviewed in Dauphin County, oh, now I understand you are sadly mistaken. Do you even look at maps? Okay? Oh my?

01:04:51
Speaker 1: Who picked this review? CJ? You're supposed to shelter the.

01:04:55
Speaker 2: Talent coming from just coming for the edges.

01:05:00
Speaker 1: Any butcher in the fucking comments? It's mayor of East Town with a block.

01:05:05
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I don't know enough about Dolphin County to really, I don't know.

01:05:10
Speaker 1: Enough about Pennsylvania, and I am this is fucking how dare you? Ce J? These are supposed to be handpicked, just the nice reviews for our fragile egos. We are hired talent. This is nothing. I mean, I cannot handle the criticism though.

01:05:26
Speaker 2: Now I'm fine. I just I think the thing is person is that we don't know enough about Dolphin County to be like.

01:05:35
Speaker 1: How we don't how? Yeah, how am I supposed to know?

01:05:39
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania. No.

01:05:43
Speaker 1: I think what they're saying is that I was probably which I do this all the time, I was making blanket statements about an entire state, which is I'm sure there is much nuanced there. I'm sure Joan County. But it's like if someone said to you, oh, Melissa, you talk like a girl from the Bronx or something like that.

01:06:02
Speaker 2: Exactly, there's nothing wrong with the Bronx if you're from the Bronx.

01:06:05
Speaker 1: But now that's what she's saying is we probably will baby blank blanket statements about cities in Pennsylvania comparing them to what was a very very.

01:06:16
Speaker 2: To know that this woman was from Dauphin County.

01:06:19
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was probably something that came up anecdotally. And this is where we have producers on the show who are supposed to be doing this. It was the woman at the gas pump, and yeah, we know.

01:06:31
Speaker 2: From Philly or Pittsburgh.

01:06:32
Speaker 1: I CJ with a sock full of batteries. Unbelievable O my god.

01:06:38
Speaker 2: Okay, well listen, I guess we're sorry. I don't. I mean, I'm not sure what they want us to say. Do you even look at a map? Youch my god.

01:06:49
Speaker 1: I look at a map, obviously the blue part is the land. Okay. This is from Jacqueline with a K thirteen from the Afroman episode. You guys Afroman for some reason, and I didn't register that he was a guest on the show until you started introducing him. I'm not even high. I swear the same user wants to have Alissa on the podcast. That's if we can ever track her down.

01:07:14
Speaker 2: I know Alissa were.

01:07:15
Speaker 1: So seriously, she needs to take care of her head. I'm someone who's had multiple concussions.

01:07:20
Speaker 2: What's happening?

01:07:22
Speaker 1: Why are the viewers of the show concussed people from Pennsylvania US?

01:07:31
Speaker 2: Oh, we're going to get into so much trouble. Oh my god. Okay.

01:07:38
Speaker 1: From afrom An episode. My husband always wanted a dog, and I told him once our oldest cat passed away, he could plot twist. He died, and then the cat died, so I guess I'll never have to have a dog. Oh, Sheila, your husband died.

01:07:51
Speaker 2: I think that's what she meant. When I read that, I was trying to figure it out, and I think that's what she means, sorry for your lost Shila. I don't I'm not really sure how to react to this one.

01:08:03
Speaker 1: I think she wants us to have fun. Okay, I don't twist.

01:08:06
Speaker 2: He died and then the cat dad, my husband died.

01:08:09
Speaker 1: So this is Cancuss people from Pennsylvania who are widowers, widows, widows, Cancussed widows from pennyl This is the fans of the fans of our show. And I love it. I love it. You know what she like? Get a girl and get that cat, get that dog. Live your truth. Because if my husband, if Brad kicked the bucket, which we all know, I'm probably going to go first, just based off forty miles or rough highway leading up to this day and his perfect pristine record in life. If he, for some reason goes first, I'm getting like a bunch of cats, a bunch of dogs. He doesn't want cats.

01:08:46
Speaker 2: Do you want a cat?

01:08:47
Speaker 1: I love cats? Do you really?

01:08:49
Speaker 2: I thought you were more of a dog person.

01:08:50
Speaker 1: I am, but I also love cats. Brad's just dogs, just dogs. And if you ever meet him, please.

01:08:55
Speaker 2: What is Oh, Bred, I didn't know this about you, Bred. What's your problem with cats?

01:09:00
Speaker 1: He likes kats, he just doesn't want one, okay, And I'm like they're so weird. Good for you. Sure you get a girl, you live your truth.

01:09:07
Speaker 2: Arthur Weasley met my nephew this weekend and it was a love at first sight. Meanwhile, his cat runs away from him.

01:09:17
Speaker 1: Oh really, I think he's got to come love with Tatimasa.

01:09:20
Speaker 2: I think so.

01:09:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Even though I called Melissa Melissa was babysitting her nephew. I called her the day the nephew I was rung through. I thought you had COVID.

01:09:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

01:09:31
Speaker 1: I was like, we're gonna have to cancel the recording.

01:09:32
Speaker 2: I mean, I was talking to some other people with the kids. I was like, I didn't take a shower all day because I couldn't. I couldn't figure out that when I had time. This is another one from the Afroman episode. I rarely comment, but my goodness, that interview with Afman literally made my day, maybe even my week. Lo Well, anyways, been with you guys since your first episode and it keeps getting better and better. Looking forward to more. Thanks appreciate you.

01:10:02
Speaker 1: I love that.

01:10:02
Speaker 2: I love Brian.

01:10:03
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got a question from Tish questions from the email to us. Hello. First of all, thank you both for drawing attention to the current events while also bringing entertainment and hope we all need it right now. I know I need some some days. I saw a YouTube post about detainees and Dilly Detention Center having to pay thirty nine dollars for a bottle of drinking water?

01:10:23
Speaker 2: Is that for real?

01:10:23
Speaker 1: That is real? Okay, it's forty dollars for bottle of water?

01:10:27
Speaker 2: Why is that? Okay, it's not okay, Well, obviously it is that they're doing it. Why are they able to do that.

01:10:34
Speaker 1: Because they're saying that you need to have a doctor's note to have water, Yes, but they're denying access to see the doctor, so then they're charging you for thirty nine dollars for bottle of water. People are literally dying in these detention centers, like it's actually concentration camps. And I held off a really long time using that word because I was like, that word has a lot of connotation about a lot of historical events. Yeah, I don't want to use it. Until we were in a place. It's time. It's like how they didn't want to use shelter in place until it was like a true emergency. Now we can actually use the word concentration camp. Yeah, no, it's actually crazy. So this person wants to know if we can donate to detainees. You absolutely can, Okay. So there's a really cool nonprofit that I do work with called Jira Soul. It's linked in my link tree if you want.

01:11:19
Speaker 2: To check it out, and we'll put in the show notes.

01:11:21
Speaker 1: And they do a lot of like social work as well as legal work. So for example, detainees, if I get them bonded out, they literally just like open the door to the detention center in rural Georgia, and it's like good luck, kid, Like you're on your own and there's like no bus stop, there's no bus ticket, you don't have a phone, you don't have your wallet, you don't have anything. Sometimes you're mentally disabled, sometimes you're physically disabled, like and that nonprofit will work with different organizations in the area or send someone to literally like usher the person home. I have clients who were picked up in a major city in New York. They're now detained in Arizona, like ice just like shipped them so they don't know anyone. They have had no way to get home. So these nonprofits like jr Asoul have funds just for purposes, just for that.

01:12:16
Speaker 2: I read about a story about a man like that who was detained and he got released like almost in the middle of nowhere, and they sort of opened the door and like booted him out. And there are some volunteers.

01:12:26
Speaker 1: Say half of my half of my clients right now are in a detention center in a place they have never been to before. They're all from somewhere else.

01:12:35
Speaker 2: I mean that's I mean, yes, that's terrible, right. But for me, what the worst thing about that is when they decide to let those people out. You've transported them someplace and now they have no money, no access, so you've let them out, and you're like, look, you said good luck.

01:12:54
Speaker 1: Literally yeah, it's like you're on your own.

01:12:56
Speaker 2: It's that is that's criminal.

01:12:59
Speaker 1: We are going to be sued and there will be indictments. I's going to be so much accountability, it is. It's unbelievable. And even from let alone justice and wanting to make sure that the right thing is done, a private civil lawyer is going to make so much money in just fees alone suing the government in the future on behalf of these people class action lawsuits. Just from that perspective, Alan, someone is going to make so much money off of that. So you know it's going to come. If there's money tied to it, there's going to.

01:13:35
Speaker 2: I need to see people in handcuffs, I really do. I need to see mugshots. I need to see me up for that. Wake me up for that.

01:13:42
Speaker 1: I'm going to call it. Call me at five am for that. Okay, all right? That steals from the Damns. Be sure to send us your messages. You can record a voice note through my link tree. It's called speak pipe. Just click on that and you can leave your voicemail or play your voice on the show. Or you can email us at brief Recess at exactly rightmedia dot com and tell us about how we have said awful things about your hometown. Thanks everyone for watching. I'll see you in court, not me, you're always opting out. I'm gonna subpoena you.

01:14:14
Speaker 2: Do you want me to come?

01:14:15
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that'd be so fun.

01:14:16
Speaker 2: Do you want me to be your paralegal?

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01:14:25
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