Inside the Mind of an Impressionist | Frank Caliendo (Mad TV, The Comebacks)

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<v Speaker 1>And here we are yet another day in Paradise, it.
<v Speaker 3>Sure is, and today we have a really special guest
<v Speaker 3>for you, none other than Frank Caliendo. Thank you so
<v Speaker 3>much for being here.
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me.
<v Speaker 1>What a tree to thank you? Yeah, thank you very much.
<v Speaker 2>I have to say, can I start by it's your
<v Speaker 2>show that I feel like I'm already taken over. I
<v Speaker 2>tend to do. But it's funny because I'm not a
<v Speaker 2>car I grew up watching cartoons and love cartoons. I
<v Speaker 2>think we all do. But I started hearing your voice
<v Speaker 2>when I first got to LA in the two thousands,
<v Speaker 2>and it was Jim Cummings. You get into the booth
<v Speaker 2>and talk about movies or something like voiceovers, and your
<v Speaker 2>name would always come up, and it was they always like, well,
<v Speaker 2>Jim Cummings. I'm like, I don't. It was before the internet,
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't really know what's his name?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Well, but it was amazing to hear people come up.
<v Speaker 2>It was you. There was a Hal Douglas and Lafontaine
<v Speaker 2>and Don Lafontaine for those of you who don't know
<v Speaker 2>Dog Lafontae, Yeah right, and the Hall Douglas. Hell Douglas
<v Speaker 2>was the one I always tried to do.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that was in the world on the WB.
<v Speaker 1>That was the one.
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't know who anybody was, but you did.
<v Speaker 2>And I've watched. I watched and listened to the podcast
<v Speaker 2>a bunch, so you and I think I saw an
<v Speaker 2>interview where you had done a lot of trailers.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, which obviously back end of the day.
<v Speaker 2>But what was your And I'm sorry if you've done
<v Speaker 2>this on the show, but what was your Did you
<v Speaker 2>do different trailer voices or I used to do a
<v Speaker 2>bit before I set you up on your own show.
<v Speaker 2>I used to do a bit on it was NBC
<v Speaker 2>Tonight on NBC The Friends Cast is Going Crazy? And
<v Speaker 2>then on an all new er it was the Switch
<v Speaker 2>that would Change. Yes, every you knew sitcom was this
<v Speaker 2>Guy and the drama was right after. Oh yes, So
<v Speaker 2>did you have a specific trailer voice I actually did?
<v Speaker 1>That?
<v Speaker 2>Was that you?
<v Speaker 1>Was that? I mean that you might have been maybe
<v Speaker 1>it was maybe coming up next on Kids w B.
<v Speaker 1>But then.
<v Speaker 5>In the world and when whenever you say, in the world,
<v Speaker 5>where weirdo sit in sound stages and do voices like
<v Speaker 5>this stupid one I'm doing now, you know it's.
<v Speaker 2>See, there's a there's a there's a recognizable You don't
<v Speaker 2>go as like uh hol Douglas would hit a lot
<v Speaker 2>more rumble Lafontaine would, but he would, Yeah, he would
<v Speaker 2>punch you in the face with right. Yes, if I
<v Speaker 2>if I was visualizing, you're you you You're a little
<v Speaker 2>soft but stern enough that you felt drama, right, And
<v Speaker 2>how Douglas was a little I don't want to make
<v Speaker 2>it sound negative towards you, but it was a little sweeter.
<v Speaker 2>It was a little like his hell like he did
<v Speaker 2>that trailer.
<v Speaker 1>He had folks, He had a little folks folks. I got.
<v Speaker 2>That's that's part of the reason I'm here is to
<v Speaker 2>learn the vernacular. But yeah, that Hal Douglas up and
<v Speaker 2>down and all rone and that he did that trailer
<v Speaker 2>for Seinfeld, the Seinfelm comedian movie, and they broke it down.
<v Speaker 2>We did a thing at the w Base. I had
<v Speaker 2>a show there and I don't know if this was
<v Speaker 2>before that or after. But I walked on stage four,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the sound stage, and I was going to
<v Speaker 2>do a bunch of impressions and the bit was that
<v Speaker 2>the Voice of God, which was how Douglas. He would
<v Speaker 2>come on and go, in the world, what are you talking?
<v Speaker 2>Actually he would come on and goes, one man named
<v Speaker 2>Frank Kelly indo me and I'm looking around. He goes,
<v Speaker 2>he thinks he's different people. He might be Robert de
<v Speaker 2>nil You want me to do Robert de Narro? Is
<v Speaker 2>that what you're saying?
<v Speaker 1>Well?
<v Speaker 2>Whoa what are we doing here?
<v Speaker 3>Let's play a game.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 2>So it was like each thing and I'm like, am
<v Speaker 2>I supposed to do this? And it was a fun bitch.
<v Speaker 2>I got it mixed up there with the Seinfeldt thing
<v Speaker 2>for a second, but you'll see that that's what happens
<v Speaker 2>to me.
<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that you looked like Robert de Niro.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and I heard you guys talking about that
<v Speaker 2>on the cat That's pretty good. Well, you know that's
<v Speaker 2>one of those things, all right, So let me explain
<v Speaker 2>something of that because I've been watching you and you know,
<v Speaker 2>the Internet is an amazing thing with people you never yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you knew the voices, or you kind of knew of
<v Speaker 2>the voices, but you could never put the face to
<v Speaker 2>the voice. And now you can. That's the amazing When
<v Speaker 2>they did that with La Fontaine on one of those
<v Speaker 2>evening shows or whatever, and then you could finally put
<v Speaker 2>the voice to the face. That's amazing thing. But I've
<v Speaker 2>seen more clips of you and so on the internet recently,
<v Speaker 2>and that's what made me really want to do the show.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my gosh, this is socialid ed.
<v Speaker 2>So I don't even remember where we were going with this,
<v Speaker 2>but that's going a lot on the w B.
<v Speaker 1>That's right.
<v Speaker 3>I might.
<v Speaker 2>What I do in my own life is I go
<v Speaker 2>Morgan frame it.
<v Speaker 6>And that's when they realized Frank Kelly endo had no
<v Speaker 6>idea what he was talking about.
<v Speaker 2>I do remember. I do remember it was the faces.
<v Speaker 2>And then I go Robin Williams and who knew and
<v Speaker 2>just become him. What what's going on?
<v Speaker 6>It's the serious Robin Williams, the one where you grew
<v Speaker 6>a beard and try and win an Academy award.
<v Speaker 2>Look, you're doing it yourself right now.
<v Speaker 6>You're focusing, and all of a sudden you're trying to
<v Speaker 6>become him who knew, and then you become Robert Denner,
<v Speaker 6>and then you're back to Robin Williams.
<v Speaker 3>It's not that far off.
<v Speaker 2>And then but you knows. Wow, Andy, not to nowhere.
<v Speaker 2>But you were talking. I was, I was Brad Garrett.
<v Speaker 2>You're talking to Brad?
<v Speaker 3>Sure it was the rug you no respect?
<v Speaker 2>And he's got those bugabuyes. Yeah, and the eyes. So
<v Speaker 2>what I always say, And this was a question I
<v Speaker 2>was going to ask for you when I eventually let
<v Speaker 2>you talk in your own show. Yeah, no, hurry, was
<v Speaker 2>so what I when I do these and and I
<v Speaker 2>look for the eyes. So the mouth tells you how
<v Speaker 2>the person talks. The eyes tell you how the person thinks.
<v Speaker 2>So if I was going to do Jeff Goldbloom, Oh, yes,
<v Speaker 2>of course I could do I could do this. How
<v Speaker 2>does he talk? He talks in the front of his mouth,
<v Speaker 2>but with a deeper uh what a deeper tone. So
<v Speaker 2>but now, but now, how do I sell it?
<v Speaker 1>Yes?
<v Speaker 2>I look around? What what do I look around? Like
<v Speaker 2>like a like a painting, like a painting in a
<v Speaker 2>haunted house. Yes, of course one one one is the
<v Speaker 2>first number two of them together's eleven? Why why aren't
<v Speaker 2>we adding them one plus one or two? But now
<v Speaker 2>when they're side by side and you turn them other side,
<v Speaker 2>they're an equal sign.
<v Speaker 1>Of course they are.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's that's very odd, very weird. Why why why
<v Speaker 2>my favorite letter? And then why I'll tell you because
<v Speaker 2>it's uh, it's what it's a incidence and a vowel, yes,
<v Speaker 2>a e I oh you vowels? And sometimes why this
<v Speaker 2>is another thing like Jeff Goldblum act. He's he's a
<v Speaker 2>tourist and a tour guide at the same time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where are we?
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you we are on the East coast. It's
<v Speaker 2>a statue of liberty. If you have ever wondered, Uh,
<v Speaker 2>it is the statue of liberty, ever been struck by lightning?
<v Speaker 2>Great question, I'll answer that.
<v Speaker 1>Uh.
<v Speaker 2>Script, let's do a Disney tour ride.
<v Speaker 7>Ah.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the tour guys they're the best, Yes, of course,
<v Speaker 2>but sometimes they have banter. Uh, that's what that's planned out.
<v Speaker 2>But when you go off script, just make sure you
<v Speaker 2>don't go too far. So, but the set the thing
<v Speaker 2>that sells it. I watched that.
<v Speaker 1>I was on the Jungle Cruise. There that's what I
<v Speaker 1>was thinking.
<v Speaker 2>See, I watched a couple of things that you were
<v Speaker 2>doing and when you went you have this thing that
<v Speaker 2>you a lot of the characters. I feel and I'm
<v Speaker 2>not going to say all, because I'm sure you go outside,
<v Speaker 2>but there's a raspiness that you tend to use in
<v Speaker 2>high and low.
<v Speaker 7>And it's it's not quite but you know it's not here,
<v Speaker 7>But there's a little there's this yeah, and it makes you.
<v Speaker 1>Got a rasp, a certain rasp. But but he just
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a very deep voice, so you don't It
<v Speaker 1>sounds more like I always say that it sounds like
<v Speaker 1>the wind blowing through cat tails, okay or something.
<v Speaker 3>That's that's the way I've described something in Pew's voice.
<v Speaker 3>I want to try and hear it. I want to
<v Speaker 3>hear what you're talking about.
<v Speaker 8>Well, there's a it's a certain it's not really a
<v Speaker 8>full settle, but it's not a bar a tone and
<v Speaker 8>it's some oh bother.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. I'm a bar of
<v Speaker 1>very little brain.
<v Speaker 3>You see, you have a good hear I never really
<v Speaker 3>noticed that before.
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's that voice takes work. That voice. It's yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't have the uh do you have any
<v Speaker 2>It's in there, right, yeah.
<v Speaker 8>Do you have any you have to push you have
<v Speaker 8>to yes, of course yes, And it comes from right
<v Speaker 8>about Leah yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting to you. It's so funny because, uh, one
<v Speaker 2>of the great things. I worked at a thing with
<v Speaker 2>Muppets one time, Oh boy, and I was talking to
<v Speaker 2>the Muppet what a couple of the Muppet actors about
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to like, they don't want to reveal
<v Speaker 2>like they don't They're worried you're going to take their
<v Speaker 2>their jobs. Well about me, I would never I'm not
<v Speaker 2>I'm not great at animation. I've never been great animation.
<v Speaker 2>I've never want to. But I'm also the type of
<v Speaker 2>person that I just went I wouldn't want to go
<v Speaker 2>and I wouldn't want to piggyback on somebody and then
<v Speaker 2>try and steal their thing. I mean, it's just but
<v Speaker 2>they you could just feel the worry. I was talking
<v Speaker 2>about Sam the American Eagle that in there, Uh you know,
<v Speaker 2>uh America, it's in there that phrase. It's that Kermit.
<v Speaker 1>Well, Kermit's up here.
<v Speaker 2>I talked about I've done this on the internet a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of times, but for your audience, think Kermit is
<v Speaker 2>high hold Commothy Frog here and then it's up in
<v Speaker 2>there and from the planet Cuisban. So you've got up here,
<v Speaker 2>Fozzy Bear, Frank Oz is down here. I'll walk Ernie.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if you take Kermit the frog high, hold
<v Speaker 2>committhy frog, and you bring it down, it becomes John
<v Speaker 2>c Riley. Did you touch my drum set? Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 2>a mere it's Mark Ruffalo. I see this as an
<v Speaker 2>absolute win, right, And then you bring it down even more,
<v Speaker 2>it becomes Paul Giamadi. I believe that's one of the
<v Speaker 2>craziest things I've ever seen in my entire life. Tighten
<v Speaker 2>it up and it becomes Jack Nicholson of course. So there,
<v Speaker 2>that's the hard thing where you have to it's you
<v Speaker 2>know how to do all this stuff. It's funny when
<v Speaker 2>you when you talk to people who actually let them talk,
<v Speaker 2>uh Robin Williams hearing if you don't give them a chance.
<v Speaker 2>Who knew they're even on the show.
<v Speaker 6>But I so back to my point, and I am
<v Speaker 6>quite scattered, going back and forth all the time, and
<v Speaker 6>eventually we get to the point.
<v Speaker 2>I was watching you to do. Some of the voice
<v Speaker 2>is listening but watching, and there's an effortlessness there's a
<v Speaker 2>I a couple of the It was a cajuny type.
<v Speaker 4>Of Oh yeah, sure, and you're just just it.
<v Speaker 2>Was just coming off. That's starting me almost getting where
<v Speaker 2>your world is in here.
<v Speaker 4>In here, that's where the pool bear becomes.
<v Speaker 1>He's in there wonderful and.
<v Speaker 2>Mike becomes droopy dog. Oh boy, am I excited?
<v Speaker 1>Here's you have to do?
<v Speaker 8>You did it, but that's how.
<v Speaker 1>You do it.
<v Speaker 2>Echoes right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's a weird thing.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, your turn, guys. I'm just getting warmed up.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>You remind me of James Arnold Taylor did Yeah, go ahead.
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen what he does? He had like a
<v Speaker 3>one man show, and he like.
<v Speaker 2>He references me in it. That's how I found it, really,
<v Speaker 2>because he said, no, I'm Frank Caroly and are doing
<v Speaker 2>I'm mad? Yeah, yeah, I mean most people do the impressions,
<v Speaker 2>know how to like who've done him for a while,
<v Speaker 2>you know how to pull the changes. What's what changes
<v Speaker 2>in each timber and cadence. Cadence changes everything? Okay, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 2>how many Christopher Waltkins? Have you heard down law up
<v Speaker 2>high in the middle. It's it's old schools. William Shatner
<v Speaker 2>Captain's log up here, Younger Shadder down here, Junny Crane.
<v Speaker 2>So you find those and people ate like Morgan Freeman.
<v Speaker 2>The best Morgan Freeman I've ever heard is Josh Robert Thompson.
<v Speaker 2>You know him.
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible.
<v Speaker 2>And when I was talking to him, I heard him
<v Speaker 2>do it in a in a video game one time,
<v Speaker 2>and I've got found his number in text him Like
<v Speaker 2>that's incredible and like it made me stop wanting to
<v Speaker 2>do it, but I need it for my act. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it was so good. Yeah, I need to explain my
<v Speaker 2>joke sometimes, but it was, you know, they you find
<v Speaker 2>people in there. Just I remember going again, that happened again.
<v Speaker 1>That's okay.
<v Speaker 2>Once we get on, I move it on. Yeah, we
<v Speaker 2>had it on the show the first time. If you don't, okay, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That's all right. We all over it. Yeah, I've been there.
<v Speaker 1>I lived there. Yeah, I'm sorry. What was I talking about?
<v Speaker 2>People always ask me this, do you and I'm doing that?
<v Speaker 2>I said I wasn't going to do because I get interested.
<v Speaker 2>You get lost in a character and do they merge
<v Speaker 2>in all where you find yourself going in and out.
<v Speaker 1>Every now and then rarely I once did winned the
<v Speaker 1>Pooh and this is a long long time ago, but said, well,
<v Speaker 1>I read about five or six stories as Winny of
<v Speaker 1>the Pooh.
<v Speaker 8>And whenever it was time to say the character's name, well,
<v Speaker 8>that's the point when Shaboozi went to the park to
<v Speaker 8>do that.
<v Speaker 1>And then I just left the gap. And then I
<v Speaker 1>said every name on the planet for a couple of
<v Speaker 1>months and I couldn't. And they wanted me to do
<v Speaker 1>three in a row, and I said no. And honestly,
<v Speaker 1>if you if you stacked it up on paper, be
<v Speaker 1>bet like that. Just of names there are. And for
<v Speaker 1>some reason I was in the D's for like a
<v Speaker 1>week there the whole world has d is the biggest
<v Speaker 1>name in the world. And uh, And I went home
<v Speaker 1>and I answered the phone at at just at home,
<v Speaker 1>the member of telephones. They were on the wall sometimes Hello,
<v Speaker 1>oh Jesus Christ, goddamn, I'm winning the Pooh. Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>what you know? And then and it just stuck inside
<v Speaker 1>of me and it was just you know, and oh.
<v Speaker 8>Mother, I have to take a dump.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Shoes doesn't talk like that.
<v Speaker 6>And that's when Pooh Bear realized his name was that
<v Speaker 6>for a reason.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's there you go. I gotta tell you we
<v Speaker 2>got a million.
<v Speaker 3>When do you discover that you have this talent?
<v Speaker 2>I think, uh, as a you know, as a kid,
<v Speaker 2>I think that's you do impressions of friends and teachers.
<v Speaker 2>I think everybody doesn't you turn them into characters?
<v Speaker 1>Is that smart?
<v Speaker 2>Lately I was listening, did.
<v Speaker 1>You go to Catholic school? Uh? By any chance? No?
<v Speaker 1>Because nuns are great an audience never ending, so oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get enough of me, shouldn't he There aren't
<v Speaker 1>there pills for this, you know?
<v Speaker 2>And you were doing the heartbeat I heard. I heard
<v Speaker 2>what you guys talk about that on the podcast and
<v Speaker 2>get slammed.
<v Speaker 1>Who's doing that? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's the guy's gonna grow up and be
<v Speaker 2>Winnie the Books.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, leave me, yeah, let him go, Let him go.
<v Speaker 2>He's learning.
<v Speaker 1>He's doesn't mean he's not weird.
<v Speaker 2>He's evolving evolution, yes, of course, But I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It's just I grew up and mimicked people. I loved
<v Speaker 2>people like Rich Little growing up. I watched rich Little,
<v Speaker 2>but I would see him on the Love Boat and
<v Speaker 2>the Muppet Show. You know, it was more that, but
<v Speaker 2>it was very It was a vaudevillian type of thing.
<v Speaker 2>At the time, the impressionist would do just basically.
<v Speaker 1>A line from a movie.
<v Speaker 2>And that's why impressionists, I think died out for a while, is.
<v Speaker 1>That there was a.
<v Speaker 2>Time where comedy was evolving the storytelling, and the impressionist
<v Speaker 2>was just doing old bits from movies, and that there
<v Speaker 2>was no point of view. And then but what I did,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know for me to try and evolve
<v Speaker 2>that in myself was I loved Robin Williams and I
<v Speaker 2>loved Jonathan Winters, and it was the weaving of the
<v Speaker 2>characters in an when Jonathan Winters was for everybody doesn't know,
<v Speaker 2>I did something just a little word today is something
<v Speaker 2>most people don't do. It involves a kitty, got a dog,
<v Speaker 2>and a box of tinker toys. And IM not sure
<v Speaker 2>if I should be tell here this, but there's a
<v Speaker 2>sput of those animals. You're not supposed to connect with
<v Speaker 2>the toy. But he was like the predecessor to Robin
<v Speaker 2>will Yes he was, and Robin took.
<v Speaker 1>You and Robin openly admitted it went.
<v Speaker 3>Right with it.
<v Speaker 1>Who knew?
<v Speaker 2>Come on, man? And then I made my son an
<v Speaker 2>older son and he aged in reverse. Maybe raids too.
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes consonant gets in the way and it just has
<v Speaker 2>to be fixed the right way.
<v Speaker 1>I got to work with Jonathan a three times. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and it was just I'm marveled, and Rip Taylor was
<v Speaker 1>there and Jonathan Rip Taylor, Jonathan Winters, eh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and and it was just and for some reason, I
<v Speaker 1>always would I don't have them here today, but I
<v Speaker 1>bring drumsticks to a lot of sessions and I'd be
<v Speaker 1>pounding annoying people, you know, and and Rip said, just
<v Speaker 1>hand him one, just give him one, and what's what happens?
<v Speaker 1>So I did. Anyway, we must go down river, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and okay, And that was either hold on, will you
<v Speaker 1>hold this? There? There we go? Oh that hurts, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And that was by Jonathan Winners story. He would take.
<v Speaker 2>That was they would put him on, whether it was
<v Speaker 2>Jack Benny, which was the predecessor to Johnny Carson the
<v Speaker 2>Tonight Show, or Jack Parr. I don't remember who was,
<v Speaker 2>but they were they would just get yeah, did I
<v Speaker 2>say Jack Benny? Well he was famous to uh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>just wrong. He was some dude, all right. But they
<v Speaker 2>would give him the object and then, like you said,
<v Speaker 2>just do forty different things with it, and they.
<v Speaker 1>Were all characters.
<v Speaker 2>He'd be all of a sudden, he'd be fighting in
<v Speaker 2>World War two and yeah, some people said when they
<v Speaker 2>were he was just crazy, and uh, and I think
<v Speaker 2>he was or he did, you know, have to be
<v Speaker 2>go in for some work a couple of times. But
<v Speaker 2>I always people would talk about that and be like, well,
<v Speaker 2>it's not bad when you talk to a tree, it's
<v Speaker 2>just bad when it talks back. So those types of things.
<v Speaker 2>But I love those characters, switching people and growing up.
<v Speaker 2>And Dana Carvey was a huge influence for me. Who
<v Speaker 2>is more of a cartoonish version, a caricature version of
<v Speaker 2>the voices? Yeah, you know Daryl Hammond. Daryl Hammond a
<v Speaker 2>dead on impressionist. Like most I did a couple that
<v Speaker 2>he'd blow him out, you know, blow him up into
<v Speaker 2>the more cartoonish versions. But a lot of times you're just, oh,
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, that's dead on. How would you even figure
<v Speaker 2>out how to do Bob Costas? Oh, yeah, you have.
<v Speaker 2>There's weird ones that you're like, oh my goodness, that's
<v Speaker 2>really interesting that you can do that. Weird, you know,
<v Speaker 2>weird one that nobody would even think of doing because
<v Speaker 2>everybody for a while was doing Jack Nicholson or Christopher Walking,
<v Speaker 2>John Wayne, yeah, John Wayne, the old school. Yeah. So
<v Speaker 2>but I just I like those interesting, weird ones when
<v Speaker 2>somebody comes up with something. You're like, man, that's who
<v Speaker 2>even And nowadays then somebody else will watch it and
<v Speaker 2>they'll start doing it.
<v Speaker 1>On the internet. Yeah, it's like, well that's why I
<v Speaker 1>love Jeff Goldblum. Yeah that was just it's brilliant, but
<v Speaker 1>it's a weird. It was.
<v Speaker 2>It used to be a lot of people are doing
<v Speaker 2>it now, but that's that's the thing is there's But
<v Speaker 2>it was one of those that nobody maybe a guy
<v Speaker 2>named Elon Gold did, like maybe the best one I've
<v Speaker 2>ever seen, because he looks like him to start, but
<v Speaker 2>I was doing an okay Jeff Goldbloom and then I
<v Speaker 2>saw his I'm like, jeez, that's he. He did this thing,
<v Speaker 2>and but or like he's just doing conjunctions in a row,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh my god. Elon Gold is his name,
<v Speaker 2>And he was on that Dana Carvey show and a
<v Speaker 2>great great impressionist and a great stand up comic. But
<v Speaker 2>there was a time where you like, people knew me
<v Speaker 2>from the John Madden impression, Hey, folks, John Madden here,
<v Speaker 2>and that that was the one. Like I remember Louis
<v Speaker 2>Anderson want me to do a cartoon one time. I
<v Speaker 2>did it. I did. I came in and he goes,
<v Speaker 2>just do the character as John Madden, like and then
<v Speaker 2>he's like, well, it's not going to look like John Madden.
<v Speaker 2>And it didn't. The show didn't get picked up, but
<v Speaker 2>it was just like, hey, can you do a little
<v Speaker 2>can't do that John Madden there?
<v Speaker 1>That'd be gun.
<v Speaker 2>Turn it into that, Like they become more caricatures, and
<v Speaker 2>you take the caricature and people don't really know it's
<v Speaker 2>an impression anymore. That's the other way, like I went
<v Speaker 2>off track. But before he's saying you took relatives and
<v Speaker 2>you can make you said your aunt has been like.
<v Speaker 1>Forty different people or something like that.
<v Speaker 2>And that's like if you cantain like a bunch of
<v Speaker 2>Simpson's characters are just impressions that are a little bit off. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>oh sure, and that's a.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's a that's almost like a trick.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, so you.
<v Speaker 2>Can you can already see it. I don't know when
<v Speaker 2>when I do an impression. And this is I'd love
<v Speaker 2>to hear your how you do I actually see the
<v Speaker 2>person in front of me. I'm disappointed when I see
<v Speaker 2>myself on caucus, I'm like, oh, I still look like myself.
<v Speaker 2>But when I see him in my in my mind,
<v Speaker 2>I see the person that I'm doing. And that's why
<v Speaker 2>the face starts to happen. Is I see him and
<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm looking in a mirror and they're looking there.
<v Speaker 2>Do you do that with cartoon.
<v Speaker 1>Kind of Yeah? Yeah, I've said it before. I first
<v Speaker 1>time I we we were doing the very first time
<v Speaker 1>I ever did Winny the Pooh and Tigger was on
<v Speaker 1>the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh back in the
<v Speaker 1>eighties and Entertainment Tonight came and they decided that this
<v Speaker 1>would be fun to do, you know, behind the scenes.
<v Speaker 1>And I was standing there, and when I was Pooh,
<v Speaker 1>I would I would stand there and stick my stomach out,
<v Speaker 1>and then when I was Tigger, I would can there
<v Speaker 1>and I would be weirdy to go, you know, and
<v Speaker 1>you can tell who it was with the sound out.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I think that but that's that helps
<v Speaker 2>you sell and gets you in and you can you
<v Speaker 2>can go. People ask me how do you do like
<v Speaker 2>the radio station and the like, how do.
<v Speaker 1>You flick from person to person?
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, I kind of morph for each one, and
<v Speaker 2>it puts you in a physical space where you can
<v Speaker 2>be that because you can do that, right, yeah, you
<v Speaker 2>can go accuse you. It gets like a Q right yeah,
<v Speaker 2>if if I could go gold bloom, yes of course
<v Speaker 2>to uh job man.
<v Speaker 6>The face changes, the body changes, everything goes differently a
<v Speaker 6>little bit.
<v Speaker 2>And then like throwing a Robert Downey Junior, which is
<v Speaker 2>basically just burping the second part of s. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you find the cadence. And of course hashtag awesome. Uh
<v Speaker 2>might bet on him as he's a human Twitter feed
<v Speaker 2>like everything's like he'd been giving out an Academy Awards,
<v Speaker 2>but everything's supposed to be about the nominees, but he
<v Speaker 2>turned it back. Then these people deserve your clause almost
<v Speaker 2>as much as I do hashtag awesome. So I want
<v Speaker 2>you have that take on the person. You can do
<v Speaker 2>more with them. That's always some of my more current
<v Speaker 2>impressions are just a voice and they don't have they
<v Speaker 2>don't have the the point of view or the fun
<v Speaker 2>or the I can't do it?
<v Speaker 1>Do you know?
<v Speaker 2>Marcella's pope. She's fantastic and she's she calls it. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I called it this too, but she
<v Speaker 2>calls it being fluent in a voice.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you can just repeat something.
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, if you if you're looping. I don't
<v Speaker 2>do much of that, but I have friends and I'm maybe,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you probably done. But it's where you try
<v Speaker 2>to match, you voicematch somebody for a short thing. That's
<v Speaker 2>much easier than trying to have a conversation in a character.
<v Speaker 2>And when you when you can do that in a
<v Speaker 2>full character and just continue, that's that becomes its own character. Character, caricature,
<v Speaker 2>but character, and it comes to life as opposed to
<v Speaker 2>just kind of putting it out there and trying to
<v Speaker 2>be a piece of scotch tape on something. And it's
<v Speaker 2>more of it's malleable and you can create a character
<v Speaker 2>becomes its own new character out of it. Worked with
<v Speaker 2>wil Sasso at Mad TV and his Kenny Rogers became
<v Speaker 2>I'm Kenny Rogers and this you know, it wasn't even
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Rodgers anymore, but you were looking forward to hearing
<v Speaker 2>the name Kenny Rogers and then this crazy character there
<v Speaker 2>was and I kind of did that. I did that
<v Speaker 2>a lot with John Madden. I actually took There was
<v Speaker 2>a show on w g N back in the day
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago called the Giggle Snort Hotel.
<v Speaker 1>Giggle Giggle Snort Hotel.
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. Yeah, And there was a character named
<v Speaker 2>Blob who was clay. He would come in on a
<v Speaker 2>like a pedestal kind of thing and they mold him
<v Speaker 2>and put different faces on him. But he would go
<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of that's not more Schwartz and Negress.
<v Speaker 2>It uh with you doing over there while you putting
<v Speaker 2>the face on me.
<v Speaker 1>But it was more.
<v Speaker 2>But that's what we do with the John Madden. I'd
<v Speaker 2>visual this Blob and when I would go into Madden,
<v Speaker 2>we would do a little bit of that. But you're
<v Speaker 2>looking for the laugh in comedy. I wasn't trying to
<v Speaker 2>do dead on impressions. I was trying to come up
<v Speaker 2>with something that would make because I was on stage
<v Speaker 2>doing stand up, there you go, and so it created
<v Speaker 2>this character. It was more fun to listen to. But
<v Speaker 2>cartoons I think are automatically there you are in that
<v Speaker 2>were like when you forgive me for trying to do
<v Speaker 2>But I got trying to do it a wonderful thing.
<v Speaker 2>You know, your bounts, the bounts there is. It's odd
<v Speaker 2>you ever hear a really good actor try and do
<v Speaker 2>voice over acting.
<v Speaker 1>You're like, yes, and it's it's hard to look at.
<v Speaker 2>Tough right because they're used to being as real and
<v Speaker 2>in the moment, and you go, why isn't this working? Well,
<v Speaker 2>it's a totally different art form.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, boy, it's is. And we I did long long
<v Speaker 1>time ago, the California Raisins and uh and I was
<v Speaker 1>Ac the lead singer, and the one fellow who will
<v Speaker 1>remain nameless because I can't remember his name anyway, he
<v Speaker 1>was on there and during this they would have an interaction.
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't all singing, and uh. He would there was
<v Speaker 1>a scene where he was going to be trepidacious or
<v Speaker 1>he was worried about something, and he would sit there
<v Speaker 1>the go and it would be his line, you know,
<v Speaker 1>Dorian Herwood. Somebody would say their line and he would go, no,
<v Speaker 1>and we oh God, what time is it? Jesus Christ?
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, you know, get to that. No,
<v Speaker 1>come on voice acting voice.
<v Speaker 2>Because you can't use your face.
<v Speaker 1>You can't use your face, you.
<v Speaker 2>Can't use your face, your body. Your body can sell
<v Speaker 2>it to yourself, but it can't sell it to the audience.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know, well that's what I used to jokingly say.
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, I can't remember when I would
<v Speaker 1>chokingly say, but it was in the same boat. Yeah. No.
<v Speaker 1>It was like, well, anybody could be an actor if
<v Speaker 1>they get to use your face.
<v Speaker 2>You know, anybody could do that.
<v Speaker 1>You have to use your voice. Oh hmm, okay, and
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of true.
<v Speaker 2>When I first came to Los Angeles is around two
<v Speaker 2>thousand and two, thousd one. I could do these voices
<v Speaker 2>and impressions. It was mostly impressions. And I remember going
<v Speaker 2>into Nickelodeon to me because you get those general meetings
<v Speaker 2>and I was new, so it was like people, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't have any acting chops real I came from stand up.
<v Speaker 2>I'd never done a sketch. I ended up getting on
<v Speaker 2>a sketchhow without ever being on stage acting, which is
<v Speaker 2>I would not suggest doing. I should say, take some classes,
<v Speaker 2>learn some stuff, figure out what you're doing first before
<v Speaker 2>you just get thrust into.
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<v Speaker 2>Do it now, like when I would first do sketches,
<v Speaker 2>like your face is kind of doing it and your
<v Speaker 2>voice is, but the rest of your body isn't following,
<v Speaker 2>like oh okay, so I had to just then I overcompensated,
<v Speaker 2>and Kipick came that way. But I first went to
<v Speaker 2>LA and I remember getting the just a general meeting
<v Speaker 2>type of thing, but it was in a studio. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>it was an audition, and I had to read the
<v Speaker 2>lines and they're like, okay, but can you do it
<v Speaker 2>like you're talking? Can you do it like you're actually
<v Speaker 2>talking to somebody and not just reading it.
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was doing this great job. Oh that's
<v Speaker 1>what you wanted to hear.
<v Speaker 2>Oh it was devastating, and it actually it was honest
<v Speaker 2>and real, and there she was one hundred per sent correct.
<v Speaker 2>And I shouldn't have been there. I shouldn't have been
<v Speaker 2>thrust in that position to be you know, you get
<v Speaker 2>you meet agents, you come to LA and they just
<v Speaker 2>assume you're ready to go on stuff. I was, and
<v Speaker 2>I was so green. I annoyed. I could just do
<v Speaker 2>what I did. I went in. I was just terrible
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even know. But I went there leaving
<v Speaker 2>and go I must not be very good. And then
<v Speaker 2>I heard some other people, people like you were pros,
<v Speaker 2>Carlos Alis, Rocky who came, and people who were fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is just the wrong thing for
<v Speaker 2>me at that time, even I've never found my way
<v Speaker 2>into it, and I I just always thought I'm not
<v Speaker 2>even trying to. Now it sounds like I'm just doing
<v Speaker 2>an audition. Hearing I was, I was like, there's people
<v Speaker 2>who are so much better at this than me. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>I just find my own thing. That was kind of it.
<v Speaker 2>But I remember, I remember, I remember who was I
<v Speaker 2>met at Nickelodeon. I remember a guy Jamie Thomason. Is
<v Speaker 2>he still around He's still around? Super nice?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>Great?
<v Speaker 2>Super at Disney. I don't know if he was at Disney.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he he was involved in the movie that came out,
<v Speaker 1>King of Kings, and he cast that. Okay, finally got
<v Speaker 1>out there he was.
<v Speaker 2>I just remember him, you know, it was a very
<v Speaker 2>similar kind of thing, but he was softer about it.
<v Speaker 2>But it was like it was a it was a
<v Speaker 2>really nice but I just remember that the whole time.
<v Speaker 2>And I even remember his name, which is crazy, but
<v Speaker 2>it hit me, Oh you should really not everybody can
<v Speaker 2>go an audition with a tape of for Lion on
<v Speaker 2>the Lion right, listen. I got beat out by some
<v Speaker 2>guy with a tape. Yeah, you listen to some podcasts.
<v Speaker 2>I gotta throw some stuff back.
<v Speaker 1>That I've heard of that I like that.
<v Speaker 3>I like that you've really listened because some people come
<v Speaker 3>on and they're like, oh, yeah, I listened to the show,
<v Speaker 3>and well, I tell you what.
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you. The key why because I didn't want
<v Speaker 2>to put you in a position that I've already done
<v Speaker 2>once because I didn't listen to enough. But where you
<v Speaker 2>have to tell the same story that you're already told.
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to feel like you can tell it
<v Speaker 2>if you but if you've told the same story, I
<v Speaker 2>feel like there is there are like people ask you.
<v Speaker 2>I find it funny because they it's the same kinds
<v Speaker 2>of questions people ask me, how did you get into
<v Speaker 2>this and it's the same kind of story.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't come up with a new answer, right
<v Speaker 1>because you could lie. You have done that before.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but it's one of those things where you
<v Speaker 2>got it. You have to know a little bit about
<v Speaker 2>the podcast and listen how things go, because every podcast
<v Speaker 2>is different.
<v Speaker 3>We've got people come in and they see the cameras
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, this is on camera. Yeah, yeah, what's like,
<v Speaker 3>you didn't google like one clip? Like, yeah, yeah, I.
<v Speaker 2>Think that happens. I'm just there's so much out there,
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's it's one of those things where
<v Speaker 2>I see your clips more on the internet. I see
<v Speaker 2>more stuff on Instagram, and uh.
<v Speaker 1>That's you.
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, that's a big reason why I even wanted to
<v Speaker 2>do this. I see, wow, this is this is a
<v Speaker 2>cool chance to do something different with somebody who's it's
<v Speaker 2>so funny. I hate saying this a legend because people
<v Speaker 2>call me a legend and I always I must take
<v Speaker 2>offense to it. Apparently you like it. Your that you
<v Speaker 2>can't that's a wonderful thing. Yeah, tell me more.
<v Speaker 1>Cage and then you have twenty minutes to stuff and
<v Speaker 1>I mean it, but yeah, I think that's important.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you got to know what you're what you're
<v Speaker 2>doing a little bit, and it was just interesting to
<v Speaker 2>hear I found them. I found but Brad Garrett. I
<v Speaker 2>learned stuff, especially in the Brad Garrett. I've known jim
<v Speaker 2>meskim In for quite a while. And uh, there was another,
<v Speaker 2>you know, another one. But the Instagram stuff I saw
<v Speaker 2>Alan Alan is No, he's the guy who did.
<v Speaker 3>Open who's the I don't think we've released yet.
<v Speaker 2>Who's the one to do the Warner Brothers. Uh, he
<v Speaker 2>did a bunch of uh dog and all the dog.
<v Speaker 1>Blank.
<v Speaker 2>No, he's been gone for all.
<v Speaker 3>The Asian guy he's Asian.
<v Speaker 1>No, No, No, that's Eric. No.
<v Speaker 2>It was another he's on your first he's your first
<v Speaker 2>one on Instagram. It's just he did somebody look it up,
<v Speaker 2>you guys, if somebody off camera or somebody on camera,
<v Speaker 2>somebody besides me, because it might not be I don't.
<v Speaker 3>Know, what do you mean, the first one on Instagram?
<v Speaker 2>It's your pinned first Instagram?
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh oh, oh oh.
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know.
<v Speaker 2>It's got like twelve million views. That was one of
<v Speaker 2>the first things that came across on my page. But
<v Speaker 2>I was was one of those things, I go, oh gosh,
<v Speaker 2>and then that's how that's how I actually saw more
<v Speaker 2>of you, and then I.
<v Speaker 1>Watched that is it?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it?
<v Speaker 7>Alan Jeff bergo yes, Alan, oh yeah, what listen you
<v Speaker 7>guys trusted me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Hakuna matata.
<v Speaker 2>So where are we next come up?
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting to me that you say that, because clearly,
<v Speaker 3>like the podcast clips that we put out is clearly
<v Speaker 3>getting into like the algorithms of performers, because more and
<v Speaker 3>more performers are coming up and being like, oh I
<v Speaker 3>saw there in saying like what you're saying. And it's
<v Speaker 3>curious to me because like obviously, you know, like there's
<v Speaker 3>the there's the voice acting circle, right, and then there's
<v Speaker 3>the there's the convention circle, you know, and there's like
<v Speaker 3>some bleedover and then through the convention. You know, that's
<v Speaker 3>kind of like how it bleeds out into like the
<v Speaker 3>on camera people and you know from networking through that
<v Speaker 3>and everything. And so clearly, like the clips are like
<v Speaker 3>in those people's circles algorithms because everybody knows them. And
<v Speaker 3>then it makes our job a lot easier because people
<v Speaker 3>just want to be on the show as opposed to it,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 2>Well you've got some great yeah. Sean Aston was another
<v Speaker 2>one that, Yeah, that was a lot of fun, him
<v Speaker 2>trying to do any of the pooh react. Your reaction
<v Speaker 2>is what makes it great. It's like, you know, at
<v Speaker 2>first nicely dismissive and then overwhelming support. Basically rudy is
<v Speaker 2>what it was.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it was the.
<v Speaker 2>But that was that was one of those clips where
<v Speaker 2>I go, oh, this is this is a fun because
<v Speaker 2>I tried to. I try to. I want you know,
<v Speaker 2>I came to LA I live in Phoenix, and I
<v Speaker 2>kind of came to Atlanta do some different podcasts. I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I want to do something different. I don't want to
<v Speaker 2>do the.
<v Speaker 1>Same type of podcast.
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about different things and not do
<v Speaker 2>crossover on the and change clothes each time so it
<v Speaker 2>looks like it's a different day, but it's I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to do stuff that was different, and to me, the
<v Speaker 2>animation side and the voice overside here was really something
<v Speaker 2>I was never good at, never saw myself as good at,
<v Speaker 2>and people always say to me, why don't you do that?
<v Speaker 2>And my quick answer was, like I said before, there's
<v Speaker 2>just people that are so good at it.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know. I think you're you're right there, man.
<v Speaker 1>You can do whatever you want.
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that what mel blank said?
<v Speaker 1>Kids?
<v Speaker 2>Got it?
<v Speaker 1>Oh, tell the kid, he's got it.
<v Speaker 2>He's got it. Yeah, that's pretty good, decent blank and
<v Speaker 2>right there, because that was my bugs bunny. Isn't Eric
<v Speaker 2>Bowser who's a he's pretty good.
<v Speaker 1>He's a crowd. He left me a message.
<v Speaker 2>He's eating the carrot and uh, and I'm like, oh
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, that is like I can kind of do it.
<v Speaker 2>But then you hear you yeah man. And then but
<v Speaker 2>that's like you with Winnie the Pooh. I hear it
<v Speaker 2>and I go, I've heard so many versions and there's
<v Speaker 2>people who tried it, But then when you hear the
<v Speaker 2>actual person do it, there's a nuance and there's like
<v Speaker 2>everything because it's yours, right, it's yours. Whether it became
<v Speaker 2>yours or start as yours, it's yours, and you've developed
<v Speaker 2>it over time. But you hear it, you go, ah,
<v Speaker 2>everything else I hear is a copy of that, and
<v Speaker 2>you know how each copy gets a little further away
<v Speaker 2>or becomes its own thing. And when I hear you
<v Speaker 2>do it, certain words that the rs and like here here, here,
<v Speaker 2>there's a different r that's that I might not hit
<v Speaker 2>unless I really you know, spent just time, but you
<v Speaker 2>do it naturally because it's you know, your guy. I
<v Speaker 2>was so funny. I told my daughter, who's nineteen, I
<v Speaker 2>was coming to do this, and it opened. It was
<v Speaker 2>so funny because she was just at Disneyland. She's at
<v Speaker 2>Arizona State University and having the time of her life.
<v Speaker 1>Barely she goes to school once in a while. Can't
<v Speaker 1>beat that.
<v Speaker 2>But she was at Disney and I go, I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to do this podcast with Jim Cummings.
<v Speaker 1>And she didn't know.
<v Speaker 2>You know, she's got to get with it, but she's
<v Speaker 2>I said, he's the voice of Wayne the Pooh and
<v Speaker 2>he has done Tigger and said, oh, I just bought
<v Speaker 2>a shirt with those on the Oh, that's amazing that
<v Speaker 2>that resonates with my nineteen year old daughter, which I
<v Speaker 2>haven't even thought about that in years. Like I told
<v Speaker 2>her some of the stuff I was coming out to do,
<v Speaker 2>and this was the one she cared the most about.
<v Speaker 2>But it's a piece of you know, growing you know
<v Speaker 2>that childhood. Yeah, I heard you talking about this too.
<v Speaker 2>With conventions and stuff. The emotion that people have is
<v Speaker 2>the coolest thing. And that's why I'm really glad the
<v Speaker 2>conventions have come to where they're at because people used
<v Speaker 2>to be afraid to do those. There was a time
<v Speaker 2>where when actors, like super famous actors, wouldn't do commercials.
<v Speaker 3>That's gone.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well that's gone. Yes, they'd have to be
<v Speaker 1>in Japan.
<v Speaker 3>I was a ludicrous in like a frickin' Oh it
<v Speaker 3>was like a Bridgestone commercial. Like it was like because
<v Speaker 3>he's in Fast and the Furious. I guess that's how
<v Speaker 3>they connected it at the end and I'm walking like
<v Speaker 3>the TV was just on in the background, like this
<v Speaker 3>sounds like ludicrous, but I look and it's like a Bridgetone.
<v Speaker 3>He's like sitting in like an auto shop. Like if
<v Speaker 3>I would have told you.
<v Speaker 2>Changed here, listen, if I would have told how much
<v Speaker 2>him in nineteen, let's say two thousand and five, that
<v Speaker 2>Snoop Dogg would beat at the Olympics. He as a host,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like nobody's gonna have Snoop Dogg. This guy's
<v Speaker 2>The stuff he's talking about in songs is no way.
<v Speaker 2>And he is now an ambassador for that, which is
<v Speaker 2>amazing to even think about it.
<v Speaker 1>And he's great yeah, and he's fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>But it used to be if you were in a short,
<v Speaker 2>certain genre, yeah people, they'd be none. But now everything
<v Speaker 2>crosses everywhere. Super famous actors are doing bits online stick
<v Speaker 2>so to speak. It's everything. It doesn't matter. TV was
<v Speaker 2>a bad thing for actors to do.
<v Speaker 1>The I was going to say that that used to
<v Speaker 1>be taboo if you were in a movie, and maybe
<v Speaker 1>Steve McQueen broke that down started.
<v Speaker 3>I think we still have a couple left who are
<v Speaker 3>like truly like you won't see them on TV, Like
<v Speaker 3>who do who? Leonardo DiCaprio, You will not see him
<v Speaker 3>in his life on TV. He will not do.
<v Speaker 2>Even he did a streaming movie, didn't he? What isn't
<v Speaker 2>there a streaming movie on? With the look up?
<v Speaker 3>And yeah that Netflix?
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's okay, that's still talking.
<v Speaker 3>About No, no, no, that's that's still a movie. I'm
<v Speaker 3>talking like, he won't be on an episodic series, you know, like,
<v Speaker 3>he'll never do that. Can watch it could have? It
<v Speaker 3>could have, you know the appeal of breaking bad. I
<v Speaker 3>still firmly believe.
<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't think.
<v Speaker 3>I will do movies. I will do movies.
<v Speaker 2>So if there's a Wolf of Wall Street series. He's not.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it.
<v Speaker 3>I guarantee.
<v Speaker 5>You know.
<v Speaker 3>Five years ago, I remember hearing a rumor like last
<v Speaker 3>year they were like, oh yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio is going
<v Speaker 3>to be in the American version of Squid Game. And
<v Speaker 3>I was like, there's no way that's true. Like, there's
<v Speaker 3>no way unless Netflix literally like through the freaking mountain
<v Speaker 3>him Mountain of Cash.
<v Speaker 2>What if it became Leonardo DiCaprio's Netflix. What if that
<v Speaker 2>was like when they name a stadium, so they named Netflix,
<v Speaker 2>It's DiCaprio's Netflix. Uh yeah, I think I think you're
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right about episodic. But he's very rare.
<v Speaker 3>I mean yes, yes, very rare. Like there are the
<v Speaker 3>tom Cruisers, like a Brad Glenn Close, like I would
<v Speaker 3>put has been an HBO stuff hasn't true. Yeah she
<v Speaker 3>did do that, so HBO I need.
<v Speaker 2>To look at the HBO. HBO does have a pedestal
<v Speaker 2>where people will but I yeah, that's true. I know
<v Speaker 2>there is so much money being thrown at certain people
<v Speaker 2>to just because they they just want to have that
<v Speaker 2>person on their mantle. They want to have that person
<v Speaker 2>like we got them. We got her, We got that
<v Speaker 2>person to our show.
<v Speaker 3>For sure. We talk about it all the time, especially
<v Speaker 3>like at these conventions, like these people with money literally
<v Speaker 3>tree actors, like they're like collectibles, you know, they literally
<v Speaker 3>Like it's like a brag of like so and so
<v Speaker 3>worked for us, you know, like we got to hang
<v Speaker 3>out with so and so or we have them on
<v Speaker 3>our roster at this show. It's like they're real life
<v Speaker 3>action figures. And it's like a brag to whoever you
<v Speaker 3>can get And sorry to cut you off, but it's
<v Speaker 3>your show. It's a it is a natural thing because
<v Speaker 3>like I've even you know, find myself doing it, like
<v Speaker 3>in the context of this podcast, you know, like oh
<v Speaker 3>we've had so and so and so and so on
<v Speaker 3>the podcast, and it elevates the brand. So to say.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think that's your You're doing that for
<v Speaker 2>business purpose, and that's smart. I mean, I think this
<v Speaker 2>is a great thing for you in that convention world,
<v Speaker 2>in just in everything because people get to see and
<v Speaker 2>hear you for who you are. That's what I like
<v Speaker 2>doing and I you hear me do the you know,
<v Speaker 2>I go through the song and dance and do the stuff. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>especially if you if you watch if you go back
<v Speaker 2>and you'll watch it. I have trouble watching myself, but
<v Speaker 2>if you don't watch, should go back. Yeah, well, somebody's
<v Speaker 2>got to edit it, right, somebod's got to take. But
<v Speaker 2>the one of the things I always do is like
<v Speaker 2>them up front, do something. We did a bunch of
<v Speaker 2>stuff before we got into stories. I wanted you to
<v Speaker 2>have a reason to listen to what I had to
<v Speaker 2>say the rest of the time. So I kind of
<v Speaker 2>put a MILDI version of the fireworks ending at the beginning.
<v Speaker 2>They go, let's do a bunch of stuff, and if
<v Speaker 2>people find that interesting, they'll want to hear more from me.
<v Speaker 2>That's as the talent and that's the entertainer stand up
<v Speaker 2>comic in me. Yeah, going okay, Part A is give
<v Speaker 2>you something interesting at the top. Why would I go
<v Speaker 2>into conversation about me your audience. There's probably some crossover,
<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of people have no idea who
<v Speaker 2>I am, right, So I've got to assume there's more
<v Speaker 2>people who don't know who I am. So I give
<v Speaker 2>them a reason to either choose to listen to more
<v Speaker 2>of meat or not, and then we can get into
<v Speaker 2>more conversation. Starts which we have and then go in
<v Speaker 2>and out of trying to entertain that's smart as well.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, those pieces of uh makes perfect sense.
<v Speaker 2>But it's and it comes from listening to different podcasts
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 3>How do you see? Yeah, you get it because a
<v Speaker 3>lot of the times, I would say, like ninety five
<v Speaker 3>percent of the people that we interview on this podcast,
<v Speaker 3>they know that they have to do some form of
<v Speaker 3>entertainment throughout. You know, we all are on the same page.
<v Speaker 3>We know what people are watching for. You know, it's
<v Speaker 3>not strictly just a conversation. You know, like sometimes there's
<v Speaker 3>topics we have to get to, you know, like we
<v Speaker 3>had a YouTuber on last week. He keeps trying to
<v Speaker 3>push about, you know, voice acting. I'm like, we have
<v Speaker 3>to talk about YouTube, Like that's the reason you're here, right, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>we have to talk about it, right, Like, sure, you
<v Speaker 3>want to know a whole bunch about Jim, but.
<v Speaker 2>Like, but the audience, I you know, the audience already
<v Speaker 2>knows Jim. It's your show, right, So there's a piece
<v Speaker 2>of how can we tie what I know with what
<v Speaker 2>you you know, my piece where I'm from to you.
<v Speaker 2>But they've they've heard some of the stories, and they
<v Speaker 2>know where you're coming from a lot of stuff, and
<v Speaker 2>they won't hear you. I probably talk too much, but
<v Speaker 2>that's great. It's one of those things where, well, I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to come and interview you on your show
<v Speaker 2>because I'm amazed by you. It's not to me. The
<v Speaker 2>audience already knows you. My audience might be, but my
<v Speaker 2>audience has already heard me. I'm doing more and hopefully
<v Speaker 2>I bring some people here.
<v Speaker 3>To you, right, And that's whole goals. Get the cross.
<v Speaker 2>That the collab they call it, but there's I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to come out of your show and have you
<v Speaker 2>regurgitate the same seven stories you you and there might
<v Speaker 2>be some if it's natural and it ends up happening
<v Speaker 2>to happen, but know the it should be about me
<v Speaker 2>bringing something to your audience and then how do we
<v Speaker 2>how do where's the.
<v Speaker 3>I have an even more simplistic view, I honestly think,
<v Speaker 3>and I say it all the time. I say it
<v Speaker 3>all the time. If it's an entertaining conversation in person,
<v Speaker 3>it's going to have entertainment value.
<v Speaker 2>I always tell people in comedy, in podcasts in general,
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be funny. You have to be interesting.
<v Speaker 2>What's what's interesting? A lot of interesting just is funny.
<v Speaker 2>When you try to be funny, sometimes it can bagifi. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but interesting is constantly making people want to listen. Interesting
<v Speaker 2>is way more important than funny. Funny will happen during
<v Speaker 2>interesting probably accident accidental funny. You know, I worked on
<v Speaker 2>the NFL on Fox for years and you don't have
<v Speaker 2>to know football to know about this, but doing what
<v Speaker 2>I did, Thanks for you doing your research.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I did.
<v Speaker 2>I did character I would do, I would do.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were everybody.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would do impressions and I would do stuff
<v Speaker 2>about football. So there were bits about I did it
<v Speaker 2>for ten years. So that's ten years. I know you
<v Speaker 2>didn't watch.
<v Speaker 3>I did, though, that's when I was sitting here like.
<v Speaker 1>Terry brad frand T is astonishing. Just knocks me out
<v Speaker 1>every week.
<v Speaker 2>Terry brads On not fun if Frank not funny after
<v Speaker 2>the show, funnest stuff, Frank funnest stuff like why can't
<v Speaker 2>see that one on people? How it hasn't explained a
<v Speaker 2>dope to me at that point. So, but the thing
<v Speaker 2>was that I was taped, My bit was taped. It
<v Speaker 2>was a probably a two and a half to three
<v Speaker 2>minute bit every week for ten years that you yes,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't really care, but I think it's really
<v Speaker 2>But being on tape and trying to be funny is
<v Speaker 2>not the same as them. Whenever something would go wrong,
<v Speaker 2>that's what was really funny, Terry. It's the same with
<v Speaker 2>the NBA on T n T Charles Barkley, Charles Barkley
<v Speaker 2>and Shack don't bit a knuckle here. That's a crazy,
<v Speaker 2>crazy thing. A lot of guys are sure, you don't
<v Speaker 2>even know what's going on here. And the fact that
<v Speaker 2>Charles would say something and it's really goofy and then
<v Speaker 2>everybody looks at him. It's accidental funny when something goes wrong.
<v Speaker 3>Those for those those Kenny and Ernie like they are
<v Speaker 3>literally the best compensators.
<v Speaker 1>Of all time. It's a it's a great TV show.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great.
<v Speaker 2>It's there may not be a better comedic TV because
<v Speaker 2>it's all real.
<v Speaker 3>I watch than I watched basketball.
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, people do. I think people do watch. It's
<v Speaker 2>one of the rare times people watch that more. My
<v Speaker 2>joke with Charles Barkley is my bit about him is
<v Speaker 2>he's so authentic and the reason and that I like him.
<v Speaker 2>Is that authenticity because a lot of people and they.
<v Speaker 1>Didn't give it.
<v Speaker 3>Damn Nope.
<v Speaker 2>And that's just great in this in this clickbait world,
<v Speaker 2>he's not giving you clickbait. He's giving you what he believed.
<v Speaker 2>I go back, there's a player on the Uh I
<v Speaker 2>talked about this in my there's a player on the
<v Speaker 2>Golden State Warriors named Draymond Green. Now he's one of
<v Speaker 2>those guys that he's on your team, like, he's our guy,
<v Speaker 2>he's our protector, he's our enforcer. If he's on the
<v Speaker 2>other team, you're like, I thin, guy might be cheating. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>But Charles Barkley goes, I want to punch Draymond Green
<v Speaker 2>in the face. Yes, it's not going to really do it,
<v Speaker 2>but we all talk like that's a normal thing. So uh,
<v Speaker 2>the media gets on him about that's violent and like, no,
<v Speaker 2>it's annoying. So he had he had the brilliance of
<v Speaker 2>he's not the type of the person who apologizes. He's
<v Speaker 2>not gonna grab a piece of paper and go apologize
<v Speaker 2>for the following reasons. My lawyer says, I should be sorry.
<v Speaker 2>It's not it's gonna go off the reds like that.
<v Speaker 2>But what he did was brilliant. He looked directly in
<v Speaker 2>the camera. A couple of weeks later, after Just Snowball
<v Speaker 2>and Goes.
<v Speaker 9>I apologize for recognizing Draymond Green held such a punishable
<v Speaker 9>and it's yeah.
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was, and everybody heard the word apology
<v Speaker 2>and then the media was over it. That means you
<v Speaker 2>didn't even really care in the first place. But that's
<v Speaker 2>just Charles and he's one of the greatest, nicest.
<v Speaker 9>When I first made like, Frank, you got to keep
<v Speaker 9>doing it, like what got to keep doing that impression
<v Speaker 9>of me like that because every time you do it,
<v Speaker 9>I end up making more money.
<v Speaker 1>Wow.
<v Speaker 9>And he's like, I don't even understand why people here
<v Speaker 9>doing on the radio. Next thing, you know, I get
<v Speaker 9>a new commercial for Taco Bell or what you watchers,
<v Speaker 9>which came right after Taco Bell.
<v Speaker 2>So it was like, you know, it was great and
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's fun and now a lot of people
<v Speaker 2>are doing a Charles Barkley, but it's it's one of
<v Speaker 2>those where he really liked me and got it and
<v Speaker 2>had fun. Matt John Madden didn't like me at all
<v Speaker 2>the years.
<v Speaker 1>Well, he probably takes himself rather.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was that was the thing. And I
<v Speaker 2>finally met him and made his grandkids laugh, and it
<v Speaker 2>was like a light bulb. I give it now, you know.
<v Speaker 2>It was one of those moments that he finally it
<v Speaker 2>turned around and that you can make somebody's grandkids laugh. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and the moment the kids were scared to death to
<v Speaker 2>try and laugh, and you could see mad log don't
<v Speaker 2>do it, and then they cracked up. And then I
<v Speaker 2>took pictures of that. But people don't you know, a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people they don't know how to take it.
<v Speaker 2>I always trying to come from an impression with what
<v Speaker 2>do I like about this person? What do I even
<v Speaker 2>if I don't like the person or they bother me,
<v Speaker 2>that's what probably makes them famous? Is there probably something
<v Speaker 2>about the person that is memorable? And people have all
<v Speaker 2>different takes on what that is. Do I love this person?
<v Speaker 2>To hate this person?
<v Speaker 1>Well?
<v Speaker 3>Why?
<v Speaker 2>It's just something that strikes you and gives you an
<v Speaker 2>emotional response.
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's interesting that you you have a scientific approach.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's it's science without any of the numbers.
<v Speaker 1>Is it's like?
<v Speaker 2>But I think there I think there is to that,
<v Speaker 2>because what do you find that makes the character interesting.
<v Speaker 2>What's the difference between somebody just that sounds exactly like
<v Speaker 2>a person and you're not sitting there laughing. I've heard
<v Speaker 2>people who are way better with impressions and voices than me,
<v Speaker 2>And you go, okay, but yeah, but what why am
<v Speaker 2>I listening to this?
<v Speaker 3>Why?
<v Speaker 2>What's the what's the bit? What's the joke?
<v Speaker 1>Where am I?
<v Speaker 2>Why am I interested? Okay, you can nail this, but
<v Speaker 2>after four seconds, I'm.
<v Speaker 1>Kind of going, yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Now the same thing.
<v Speaker 1>Will bother other people.
<v Speaker 2>I'll turn a character and make it over the top,
<v Speaker 2>make it cartoonish, and then people are like, it's not
<v Speaker 2>very close. Like the Internet, social media really likes you
<v Speaker 2>to sound exactly like the person because it's up close.
<v Speaker 2>It's in that small little screen and the Dana Carvey impression,
<v Speaker 2>which I think are the most entertaining in the world.
<v Speaker 2>They're not as much fun on that little you know,
<v Speaker 2>rectangle on your phone as they are watching a person live,
<v Speaker 2>watching a person live. If you did it in that
<v Speaker 2>small space, you know, a smaller impression, you're going to go.
<v Speaker 2>You're kind of going, eh, you got you got the voice,
<v Speaker 2>but what are you doing with it? But Nata would
<v Speaker 2>you know, not GNA all the big, over the top
<v Speaker 2>stuff he's known for, and not that he's not great
<v Speaker 2>on the internet, but it's just that's what makes him
<v Speaker 2>so great to watch on a full screen.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a guy out there who does perfect sounding voices, right,
<v Speaker 1>and he does like five or six of mine, which
<v Speaker 1>I'm just crazy about. And and he he's just boring, right,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you hear it and you go, oh, well,
<v Speaker 1>that sounds just like it sounds like, oh wow, was
<v Speaker 1>he reading a cookbook? You know, it's.
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't have the emotional attach. It doesn't have the emotion
<v Speaker 2>to it, and it's a carbon copy, so it's removed.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, even even when somebody takes over a voice
<v Speaker 2>for somebody else, if you're the next Kermit the Frog,
<v Speaker 2>if you're eventually the next sure you have to you
<v Speaker 2>have to embody. They're they're looking for who gets an
<v Speaker 2>emotional response When I hear this voice, it can't be
<v Speaker 2>doesn't sound the sound like person could be used for
<v Speaker 2>the quick looping kind of thing. But terms of trying
<v Speaker 2>to stay engaging, that's that's a difficult.
<v Speaker 3>I think that's very difficult, and I think that's really
<v Speaker 3>what's at the heart of how long it's going to
<v Speaker 3>take AI to find that magic sweet spot? If?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think.
<v Speaker 2>That it's a tough I've heard you know, people have
<v Speaker 2>called me they have a Morgan Freeman read for a
<v Speaker 2>project or something that they're gonna not to air because
<v Speaker 2>Morgan Freeman will sue you, and he should. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>you're not. That's the thing about when somebody asked me
<v Speaker 2>to do Morgan Freeman, I go, well, they're like, will
<v Speaker 2>you do it? I'm like, well no, and then they
<v Speaker 2>keep raising the money and money. I go, well, here's
<v Speaker 2>the thing. Here's why the money doesn't matter. You eventually
<v Speaker 2>get sued because you're not trying to sell it with
<v Speaker 2>this cool voice. You're trying to sell it because people
<v Speaker 2>think it's Morgan Freeman. There's a difference between a cool
<v Speaker 2>voice and thinking it's Morgan Freeman. And when people hear that,
<v Speaker 2>truth of the matter is that kind of thing. They're
<v Speaker 2>just they think it's Morgan Freeman. And now you're selling
<v Speaker 2>its might as well be your your visual. You get
<v Speaker 2>in your imagination, you see Morgan Freeman. You don't just
<v Speaker 2>hear this cool voice. You imagine Morgan Freeman not a
<v Speaker 2>vague person, right, And that's when it's it's as important
<v Speaker 2>as the person's likeness. So he has a voice footprint
<v Speaker 2>that literally is as good as seeing him.
<v Speaker 1>And there's very few people like that. That's right.
<v Speaker 2>But you can hear when people are close, but they're
<v Speaker 2>not quite close enough. You're gonna that kind of sounds
<v Speaker 2>like a Morgan free Like they do that all the time,
<v Speaker 2>looking for a Morgan Freeman is but as soon.
<v Speaker 1>As it gets too close, like they're trying that Morgan Framan. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Christopher Walkin's another one, right, everybody just glombs
<v Speaker 1>on him.
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's he was that the Jack Nicholson and then
<v Speaker 2>it was it was maybe shatter first, probably the high shatter,
<v Speaker 2>the the low shatter, and then Christopher Walkin. It's in
<v Speaker 2>ignoring punctuation, right, he said that himself.
<v Speaker 1>But your you've heard.
<v Speaker 2>You've heard low. He's in the middle. You know, they're
<v Speaker 2>all right there. But it's the cadence of the person.
<v Speaker 2>The I do counting with people. So the Robert Vanny
<v Speaker 2>Juniors won two burp three four.
<v Speaker 1>Five sixty seven.
<v Speaker 2>That's his. Jeff Goldblum is one uh one one what one?
<v Speaker 2>What who I'll tell you two one two, three, four,
<v Speaker 2>five six seven, Yes, or Liam Neeson one two three, four,
<v Speaker 2>five six seven and you can do you can do
<v Speaker 2>Liam and a couple of this. So that's seven one two,
<v Speaker 2>three four or five. That's that's more of a Liam
<v Speaker 2>Neeson one two three four or five six seven.
<v Speaker 3>George Bush.
<v Speaker 10>Of course I can man, Yeah, was the guy for
<v Speaker 10>a while. You know he was think Kate Man, you.
<v Speaker 2>Could put if I or it caate onto anything, and
<v Speaker 2>that's the bushes. And I gotta think that I've got
<v Speaker 2>a brain afficate.
<v Speaker 1>That's the uh you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, the presidents. That's a key with impressions because wonderful.
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's where you have to start, right well,
<v Speaker 3>because everybody knows. Everybody knows.
<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows. Like if you were to do uh some actors,
<v Speaker 2>very few actors, is everybody going to know? Because now
<v Speaker 2>cartoons maybe because everybody goes through faith, you know, they're
<v Speaker 2>growing up, they come through that. Now, yeah, that's that cartoons.
<v Speaker 2>But I I never loved the cartoons as much because
<v Speaker 2>I do like doing the faces and trying to become
<v Speaker 2>the person. It's not it's a different thing with a
<v Speaker 2>cartoon to me, not just not worse, not better, just
<v Speaker 2>it is in a different it's in a different, different,
<v Speaker 2>different critter, but in terms of.
<v Speaker 1>People knowing everybody.
<v Speaker 2>But I do all the different presidents, but I do
<v Speaker 2>them without being political, because just for me, I try
<v Speaker 2>to stay away. You know, I will make one of them,
<v Speaker 2>but I will do it in a way that people.
<v Speaker 2>I remember being in Texas in the nineties doing George W.
<v Speaker 2>Bush and people come after me after show man, you
<v Speaker 2>must love George W. Bush.
<v Speaker 1>You do it so well.
<v Speaker 10>And then the other people after the show would say,
<v Speaker 10>you must really dislike him because you do it so well.
<v Speaker 2>With animosity, animositification. And Obama is president. Obama was he
<v Speaker 2>was another U talk slow at at the beginning and
<v Speaker 2>speed up at the end.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 4>And then Donald Trump, quite frankly, a lot of people,
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people do the a loud of Trump,
<v Speaker 4>and I do the very quiet one. The the library Trump,
<v Speaker 4>the one where you go into a library and there's
<v Speaker 4>tremendous books. They have books and they're filled with words,
<v Speaker 4>tremendous words. To me, the bus words and you put
<v Speaker 4>the wors together and when you and when you put
<v Speaker 4>the words together.
<v Speaker 2>Now with Trump, like the Look. My joke is it's
<v Speaker 2>like he's looking into an aquarium and the fish and
<v Speaker 2>it's this.
<v Speaker 4>Come here nemo name.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, just ripped him.
<v Speaker 4>Anymoe, you're a clownfish, that Joe, You're ever going to
<v Speaker 4>be a clownfish.
<v Speaker 1>Where's Dory?
<v Speaker 4>Where?
<v Speaker 1>Always?
<v Speaker 4>Can never FUNDI where always?
<v Speaker 2>Where's Dory?
<v Speaker 1>Where's doy?
<v Speaker 4>Door is over there behind the anemone. And if you're
<v Speaker 4>not by friend, you may anemone.
<v Speaker 2>So his is the fish tank. Look, and he's always
<v Speaker 2>he's always like trying to find the picture.
<v Speaker 4>Look, you've got a great a great shut Pablo.
<v Speaker 1>He did a cubist.
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't go to the cubist.
<v Speaker 4>It can it can't be a cubist.
<v Speaker 2>It's and then Joe Biden, Joe Biden. My joke with him,
<v Speaker 2>I talked so much to say Mike Joe with Joe
<v Speaker 2>Biden is I've never seen another person listen with his eyes.
<v Speaker 2>They'd be like, mister president. Yeah, folks, come on, we
<v Speaker 2>young man, and everything goes back to Scranton, Pennsylvania.
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, no, young man group sc Pensylvania thirty four five
<v Speaker 11>six six hundred eight d to follow the Roman Empire.
<v Speaker 2>The Romans, the Romans by bye, the salad guy, Caesar
<v Speaker 2>Sound and the General Cruton. And they were defeated. They
<v Speaker 2>were defeated. Mario and Luigi. There were plumbers, Fox, Come on,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not jogging around here, Come on, Fox.
<v Speaker 4>And a lot of people, a lot of people you
<v Speaker 4>look for.
<v Speaker 2>But see the voice. But the voice on the Biden
<v Speaker 2>is a little more cartoonish. But it's hard to do.
<v Speaker 2>Somebody who's I was gonna say it was I was
<v Speaker 2>gonna say it passed away thirty years ago. Isn't it funny?
<v Speaker 2>We have a present who was eighty years old, and
<v Speaker 2>he seems young compared to the last one.
<v Speaker 1>I'm eighty years old.
<v Speaker 4>I'm eighty years old, and then a spray eighty You walk.
<v Speaker 2>Up those stairs.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe later.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Joe Biden couldn't know Joe Biden could walk. I
<v Speaker 2>would take them a walk. It doesn't take me walk
<v Speaker 2>up them. I can't do it right now.
<v Speaker 7>He was always like that he can Joe Biden.
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden and me, we can both follow.
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden fell upstairs.
<v Speaker 11>Stairs, folks, you're going on the stairs. Try you're fine,
<v Speaker 11>you're going up, you're down. You look around.
<v Speaker 2>The uh, the I'm saying that's sublime.
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<v Speaker 2>But it's just I stay and sometimes people, your people
<v Speaker 2>will come out to me after worry and be like,
<v Speaker 2>you get so political. I'm like every once in a
<v Speaker 2>while because I'm like, it's not political. I make fun
<v Speaker 2>of everybody. I'm not telling you if I if you're
<v Speaker 2>listening to me and you think I'm telling you who
<v Speaker 2>to vote for, you the I live a different life,
<v Speaker 2>so I wouldn't want you to listen to me. But
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do whatever you want. But that's not my
<v Speaker 2>That's how I think, and I try to People always
<v Speaker 2>ask me, do you vote for this person? So you
<v Speaker 2>can do the impression of my going no. Sometimes no,
<v Speaker 2>but it's like no, but I tried it. That's why
<v Speaker 2>I try not to watch too much. I figure the
<v Speaker 2>world's going to go on without me anyways, there's probably
<v Speaker 2>a terrible thing the way to think about it, Like
<v Speaker 2>if I'm voting for based on my act, that's kind
<v Speaker 2>of a problem. But I'm also middle of the road
<v Speaker 2>kind of person, grow up in the Midwest. I just
<v Speaker 2>I don't like to right, doesn't You can talk about.
<v Speaker 4>Nancy she's in the fish take and she's not even
<v Speaker 4>a fish.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Everybody knows it.
<v Speaker 4>That's and everybody knows that's my trump line, and everybody
<v Speaker 4>knows it. Thee in Mars and when I depresion of
<v Speaker 4>them voted for me, and everybody knows it.
<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, it's the presidents are a good base,
<v Speaker 2>so everybody. And that's why I do them up front
<v Speaker 2>in my act. Because people think I'm a sports guy.
<v Speaker 2>They think of me, and they think all sports except
<v Speaker 2>for people who didn't watch the NFL and Fox for
<v Speaker 2>ten years and the NFL.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's about freaking robot.
<v Speaker 3>I watched the damn NFL.
<v Speaker 2>Fox on the NFL.
<v Speaker 1>It's about the NFL.
<v Speaker 2>It's at Fox, NFL Sunday, It's about the NFL. It's
<v Speaker 2>on Fox. I can't remember the day it's on. Uh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so but it's people think that that's what my act
<v Speaker 2>is and I'm like, oh no, no, no, my ax. My
<v Speaker 2>act it goes in and out. But what I do
<v Speaker 2>is I do just like I did you know this podcast,
<v Speaker 2>but in a different a different structure. I do the
<v Speaker 2>impressions that everybody's going to know up top, and so
<v Speaker 2>I get everybody involved. Everybody knows. Now I'll go hit
<v Speaker 2>a sports person here and there in between, and I
<v Speaker 2>never talk about actual I do. Shouldn't say never. I
<v Speaker 2>rarely talk about actual sports events. I talk about the
<v Speaker 2>people in the sports because you're gonna know that, and
<v Speaker 2>if they're in commercials, probably a better chance you've seen
<v Speaker 2>them outside of sports. I mean, John Madden did Ace
<v Speaker 2>is a place, and then his partner was doing True Value,
<v Speaker 2>which was True Value tell him Pat Summers.
<v Speaker 1>So it's doing opposing hardware commercials.
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, but there's uh, you know. John Gruden is
<v Speaker 2>a guy who I talk about a lot of friends
<v Speaker 2>with him. Man a little spider too, Why Banana And
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, it's one of those kind of voices
<v Speaker 2>and I gotta do the eyes.
<v Speaker 11>Man.
<v Speaker 2>They call him Chucky, they called me chucky. You figure
<v Speaker 2>it out on your own, man. But that's but that's
<v Speaker 2>the people think that the whole show is gonna be
<v Speaker 2>about sports. I'm like, ah, no, no, no, I hit
<v Speaker 2>on some of the sports people, but I actually, like
<v Speaker 2>I grew up watching sports and stuff like that. But
<v Speaker 2>the the famous actors and always ask me if I
<v Speaker 2>do any female voices. Not really. I mean I've got
<v Speaker 2>some friends who do some great you know, Terry Fader,
<v Speaker 2>he can say the ventriler, he can saying like, oh
<v Speaker 2>my gosh. I just am amazed by things that people
<v Speaker 2>can do that I can't. And that's like Wow, that's
<v Speaker 2>not that I'm like this amazing perp, but I just go,
<v Speaker 2>oh gosh, how do you do that? Like I'm the
<v Speaker 2>audience in that moment.
<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, man, that's right too. Me too, Man, Well
<v Speaker 1>I have a thing too. And I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>you've ever done this? Have you? Have you ever done
<v Speaker 1>any lots of animation? Some animations?
<v Speaker 3>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>Just very little bit. I mean I I've done. I
<v Speaker 2>kind of talked myself out of it. I just was
<v Speaker 2>so bad at the start where I was just kind
<v Speaker 2>of scared.
<v Speaker 1>That I can't imagine that I don't know, but this
<v Speaker 1>is just me being me.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 2>It's a difference to me being me versus me. I'm
<v Speaker 2>better now, I get you know. They they send me
<v Speaker 2>some auditions and stuff like that, and.
<v Speaker 1>Every one.
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten some things, but it's not really on my radar.
<v Speaker 2>I just again, I feel like there's people who are
<v Speaker 2>so good at it. And then but that's the other
<v Speaker 2>reason I shouldn't say, even with acting in general, that's
<v Speaker 2>the reason I'm out there doing a bunch of podcasts
<v Speaker 2>now and podcasts I like, not just any poet, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but is to get out there and be seen again
<v Speaker 2>because I've kind of been in hiding for you know,
<v Speaker 2>eight to ten years. I just went away. And I
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say went away. I just wasn't doing as much
<v Speaker 2>on TV or I was just my kids and growing up,
<v Speaker 2>and I just I live in Phoenix, so it just
<v Speaker 2>became ah, I missed some things when they were younger
<v Speaker 2>and just traveling on us. You see me sweating, Can
<v Speaker 2>you see that? You see it's getting on.
<v Speaker 1>It was getting a little warm in here, a little toasting.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was a dumb move, but I didn't want
<v Speaker 2>to just wear the black T shirt, which is where
<v Speaker 2>I was at.
<v Speaker 3>I got to ask you about your thoughts on the Austin.
<v Speaker 3>Austin comedy scene spearheaded by Joe Rogan out there.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's great, Oh there.
<v Speaker 4>That air is tremendous, quite frankly, probably the best air conditioning.
<v Speaker 4>And a lot of people are saying that the heat
<v Speaker 4>is the way to go. Heat measure. He's you're talking
<v Speaker 4>about him, You're talking about the cold measure the other day.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he didn't tug at Bulfriese it did a great job.
<v Speaker 4>He is that fries not even anymore?
<v Speaker 1>Or was that?
<v Speaker 2>Is that?
<v Speaker 4>No?
<v Speaker 2>That was was that burgermeister meister Berger? No toys and
<v Speaker 2>boris bad enough.
<v Speaker 1>For me?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, what's the question?
<v Speaker 3>I just want to know your thoughts on the Austin
<v Speaker 3>comedy scene because it seems like it seems like from
<v Speaker 3>the outside looking in that you kind of like have
<v Speaker 3>to play like into their little clique to like.
<v Speaker 2>But what's wrong with that? I mean, it is what
<v Speaker 2>it is. I I think that's great. I mean, that's people.
<v Speaker 2>They're every that exists everywhere in everything, there's not there
<v Speaker 2>isn't a case where I think I think Joe Rogan
<v Speaker 2>is very welcoming to people he believes are hard working comics.
<v Speaker 2>That's I think the main thing for him, which I
<v Speaker 2>think is great. Uh. And if I were to get
<v Speaker 2>myself to working harder on the stand up, I would
<v Speaker 2>probably try it. But I just feel like for me personally,
<v Speaker 2>I would love to be on a show like that,
<v Speaker 2>but I just feel, ah, I don't know if that's
<v Speaker 2>if I want to feel like I belong. Yeah too,
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's great. I mean, the people that
<v Speaker 2>are doing all that, they're doing great.
<v Speaker 3>I just watched this really interesting video on YouTube. It
<v Speaker 3>was on the Elephant Graveyard as the channel if you
<v Speaker 3>guys want to watch it. It was about Joe Rogan. Is
<v Speaker 3>a two part series but it's like an hour long
<v Speaker 3>like deep dive, and it's like so fascinating what he
<v Speaker 3>was pointing out and like how all these comedians are
<v Speaker 3>like falling in line essentially to like you know, kind
<v Speaker 3>of get this like stamp of approval from Joe Rogan
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, you don't really you don't blow
<v Speaker 3>up until you really get that stamp of approval.
<v Speaker 2>It's like the Tonight Show used to be absolutely Tonight Show.
<v Speaker 12>Used to be that Jamie, Oh my god, that's nuts, Jamie,
<v Speaker 12>that's crazy, that's in that, Jose Riley Jamie, and then
<v Speaker 12>Rogan's and Jamie pull it up.
<v Speaker 3>But those but a big point being made was that
<v Speaker 3>it's like kind of toxic, and you know, it's kind
<v Speaker 3>of like promoting people that aren't really that funny.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it's different you think people are
<v Speaker 2>funny that you.
<v Speaker 3>Think Tony Hinchcliff is funny.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's is it my style of comedy? I
<v Speaker 2>don't watch enough. I don't watch many comedians though, and
<v Speaker 2>that's not me trying to get out of there. I
<v Speaker 2>don't watch a lot of comedians. Why because I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to know what they're doing. I don't want to
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm not an agitational type of guy either,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of I was talking to Jane Moore earlier
<v Speaker 2>and Jay's done a complete one eighty MS life. Jay
<v Speaker 2>was Jay was a guy who uh you know, he
<v Speaker 2>he he He flat out said I used to be
<v Speaker 2>a dick. That's I mean, he was like he's like
<v Speaker 2>and now he does daily affirmation since he's changed, he's
<v Speaker 2>not on drugs. Anybody's doing a lot better him stuff.
<v Speaker 2>So but his he could go and agitate people to
<v Speaker 2>get comedy out of them. I never wanted to do
<v Speaker 2>Tom Green. He would go and bothered bother his parents.
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of what YouTube is, right. Absolutely, I
<v Speaker 2>would consider you very presentational. I'm and probably considered, like me,
<v Speaker 2>more of an old school way of doing comedy of Hey,
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna do the comedy. I'm not going to
<v Speaker 2>try and push your buttons to do the comedy.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have.
<v Speaker 2>Fun and hope you have fun. Come on the ride
<v Speaker 2>with me as opposed to boom punch, punch punch. But
<v Speaker 2>that's not what gets clicks in this world. The clicks
<v Speaker 2>in this world are how can I make people angry?
<v Speaker 2>How can I make half the people love me?
<v Speaker 3>That's that's my thing with Tonycliff Tony, it's like they're
<v Speaker 3>bullying half the people.
<v Speaker 2>Like if you go, they're wanting to be bullied.
<v Speaker 3>That's on you, come on, come on, if you want
<v Speaker 3>to be.
<v Speaker 2>You don't think okay, So if you're going on there,
<v Speaker 2>you are either delusional. If you don't think you just okay.
<v Speaker 2>But you decided to well, I mean you made a
<v Speaker 2>conscious decision to go. It's American Idol when it first started.
<v Speaker 2>So it's the same thing. I could not watch the
<v Speaker 2>original American Idol. I thought it was mean and I'm
<v Speaker 2>just dumb because that's what people wanted. So if people
<v Speaker 2>want that, that's where I mean. We're all human, so
<v Speaker 2>you have to remember not everybody thinks the same way
<v Speaker 2>as you. And is society getting meaner?
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>He does a whole bit Patrick, who came with me
<v Speaker 2>about uh and can I paraphrase this here for you?
<v Speaker 2>It's your thing, is why? But he does the thing
<v Speaker 2>is that society isn't getting what's the word you use?
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't remember his bit. It's a brilliant bit that
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't remember. Got what world got? The word got violent? Okay,
<v Speaker 2>so the world got violent, Patrick Keane, we got the
<v Speaker 2>world never got violent. If you read the Bible, Cain
<v Speaker 2>killed Abel. Cain killed Abel. That means. And then he
<v Speaker 2>goes through all the percentages of if you if you
<v Speaker 2>were on Earth, you had a what sixty six and
<v Speaker 2>two thirds percent chance of getting killed at that point.
<v Speaker 2>It's a brilliant Like people we are, we thought we
<v Speaker 2>were evolving to a point where everything was happening. People
<v Speaker 2>just hid probably more stuff. Is it good for it
<v Speaker 2>to be on I don't know. I couldn't tell you.
<v Speaker 2>I've watched Ghostbusters too, and that seems to be the
<v Speaker 2>premise of that too. But then I don't know. I
<v Speaker 2>get what you're saying, but sometimes in front of you.
<v Speaker 2>But the difficulty all in the family was not supposed
<v Speaker 2>to be an archie. Bunker was not sure. You're supposed
<v Speaker 2>to be lovable over there, Huh. He was not. But
<v Speaker 2>people loved him because they knew somebody like.
<v Speaker 1>Him or they were him.
<v Speaker 2>And we all have that. I just I have this.
<v Speaker 2>I have a take that it's not I would say conventional.
<v Speaker 2>Everybody grows up in a different way. If you're a
<v Speaker 2>bad person, somebody probably helped make you bad. There's a
<v Speaker 2>reason you probably got to that way. If you're a racist,
<v Speaker 2>if you're this, you're that. We're all tribal in some way.
<v Speaker 2>If that's why groups of people would attack other groups
<v Speaker 2>of people who didn't look like the only way you
<v Speaker 2>know is somebody looked different.
<v Speaker 1>That's happened for us. It's been that way.
<v Speaker 2>It's the way of the wild.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is a reality that so.
<v Speaker 8>Is it?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's not. I see a lot of people doing
<v Speaker 2>kill Tony now that I would never have guessed would
<v Speaker 2>have been up. But it's so big that people do it,
<v Speaker 2>and why do they do it? Because it gets them
<v Speaker 2>seen in front of people and maybe they have a
<v Speaker 2>piece that wants to do it. I tend to be
<v Speaker 2>the type of person who if it's not for me,
<v Speaker 2>I don't like to do it. I don't want to
<v Speaker 2>do if I don't fit in. I've done too many
<v Speaker 2>of those things where I try to do something that's
<v Speaker 2>not me. I just I don't feel right. But also
<v Speaker 2>you don't you don't see me around as much. So
<v Speaker 2>you got to make your choices. And you can make
<v Speaker 2>your choices. You can make a you know, somebody could
<v Speaker 2>have told Nate Bargotzi he's got to be or I
<v Speaker 2>think he pronounces a Bargetzi, but Nate Bargetzi is you know,
<v Speaker 2>you've got to have some more uh edg year, you
<v Speaker 2>gotta be edge ar. Well, now he wasn't and super
<v Speaker 2>clean and now he's the number one or you know
<v Speaker 2>up there grossing comedian because he's interesting and doing his
<v Speaker 2>own thing. But people want to know more about him
<v Speaker 2>and he's he's just got a style all his own.
<v Speaker 2>He didn't do that. He didn't do any of those,
<v Speaker 2>And you can't happen.
<v Speaker 1>It's just hard.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just people break out. Uh, you need
<v Speaker 2>to use you need to use the internet, but other
<v Speaker 2>people need to use you on the internet. That's the
<v Speaker 2>thing I had a tough time understanding. You know, when
<v Speaker 2>people would steal your clips and put your clips somewhere. Well,
<v Speaker 2>if you listen to somebody like mister Beast, they're like, well,
<v Speaker 2>that's a great thing that can happen to you. Like
<v Speaker 2>when somebody takes your clips and gets likes and replays
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that with your plays, whatever numbers out
<v Speaker 2>of your clips, that's them just promoting you.
<v Speaker 1>Now.
<v Speaker 2>The hard thing is when it's voiceover. So I did,
<v Speaker 2>like Morgan Freeman talking about Grandma Sandy, who did the
<v Speaker 2>mentos and the coke thing.
<v Speaker 6>This is Grandma Sandy. She's a ticktoker, right, And I
<v Speaker 6>did that.
<v Speaker 2>It got put everywhere. Nobody knew it was me. Everybody.
<v Speaker 2>Now that's the tough thing is you do a voiceover
<v Speaker 2>and that's and it's a voice over to somebody else.
<v Speaker 2>But now they think it's actually Morgan Freeman or that
<v Speaker 2>you know something, they don't know who it is, and
<v Speaker 2>you get zero credit for at least when your face
<v Speaker 2>is on there, like you with the Winnie the Pooh
<v Speaker 2>and your grandson, that it's face voice moment doesn't matter
<v Speaker 2>if the stealing it from you, they see you that
<v Speaker 2>you might not get the exact but your face is
<v Speaker 2>somewhere associated somebody somehow that's going to tie back to
<v Speaker 2>you rather than if it just can't. And sometimes it's
<v Speaker 2>better if it came from somebody else's account. If somebody
<v Speaker 2>puts something, I've had that happen with my John Gruden stuff.
<v Speaker 2>People put it up all the time, to the point
<v Speaker 2>where I've started putting my own John Oldground John Gruden
<v Speaker 2>stuff up because I'm like, well that just got five
<v Speaker 2>million views and I've never used.
<v Speaker 1>I've done that too, reposted.
<v Speaker 2>You repost things because you see other people and it's
<v Speaker 2>actually gives you a reason to try it on your own.
<v Speaker 2>And then what's the worst is when somebody else gets
<v Speaker 2>and you put it out there and you get nothing.
<v Speaker 2>Gary Vee was wrong. Yeah that's oh, but it's I
<v Speaker 2>I do see that. I see that. But it's like
<v Speaker 2>Pat McAfee is another one who's a big sports guy
<v Speaker 2>and a former punter in the NFL, but massive sports.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, it's just let everybody steal everything because it
<v Speaker 2>helps you eventually. And it's hard to get over that
<v Speaker 2>mindset because we come up, we come up thinking, well,
<v Speaker 2>this is the thing I do.
<v Speaker 3>And you know they're making money off of it, right right, Yeah, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>they're making money off stolen.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's it. I mean, they were literally that's
<v Speaker 2>what's galling millions and millions of people listening to the
<v Speaker 2>watching that Grandma Sandy thing when it first came out,
<v Speaker 2>like that was around COVID time, and it was it
<v Speaker 2>was this massive, but nobody knew. I didn't even know
<v Speaker 2>it was huge. I put it on TikTok. I think
<v Speaker 2>it didn't do that well, maybe one hundred thousand views
<v Speaker 2>or something. Meanwhile, on Facebook it's got twenty million views
<v Speaker 2>by one person and they're actually monetizing it. So but yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that's a weird thing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Buddy of mind Dandy Seraphin, he's a drummer from
<v Speaker 1>Chicago of the band Chicago, and he started his own
<v Speaker 1>group and he called it CTA, which used to be
<v Speaker 1>Chicago Transit Authority. First one what's that.
<v Speaker 2>My grandpa did design the substations.
<v Speaker 1>No kidding the sea.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sorry, wait a minute, not on that band
<v Speaker 2>and he played drum.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I'm sorry, but but it was weird because
<v Speaker 1>there was a tribute band. Remember there were a lot
<v Speaker 1>of tribute bands out there for a while, and it
<v Speaker 1>was really going because he was getting his band off
<v Speaker 1>the road and it was a sixth six tet quintet
<v Speaker 1>and the Chicago tribute band was getting booked and pulling
<v Speaker 1>some coin.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's you know, uh, I had a him
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, wait a minute, there's people out there
<v Speaker 1>doing an impression of me making better money than me. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>now that's bad.
<v Speaker 2>That's because Peters Tara wasn't in doing the Chicago. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>well that's true. But yeah, I understand what you said. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>my brother is act actually does that. He does he
<v Speaker 2>does the Who. He's got a WHO band. Oh you
<v Speaker 2>obviously no, Yeah, it's not them, but it's kind of fun.
<v Speaker 2>But my brother does the scream and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't even know about this. I was thought, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That's wow.
<v Speaker 2>I felt like CSI Miami just started. Yeah, it looks
<v Speaker 2>like this dog just got it's tail wagged. So but yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there's a god that was so easy for you. That
<v Speaker 2>was really and you didn't even know you didn't. You
<v Speaker 2>just threw it.
<v Speaker 1>Out there, good old Roger. Yeah, but I didn't, And
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to spin the microphone right, threw it
<v Speaker 1>through the air. Oh man, Jesus, are you a musician too?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 2>I My mom was a piano teacher, and that's probably
<v Speaker 2>why I wish. I wish I had learned music. I
<v Speaker 2>guess the thing the difficult thing for me about I
<v Speaker 2>was wanted to do comedy, not music, and as you
<v Speaker 2>get older, you realize they intertwine a lot more than
<v Speaker 2>you realize. That's the same thing I animation I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to be. I just wanted to be funny and do that.
<v Speaker 2>My only my goal was to be a guest on
<v Speaker 2>a talk show because I love Jonathan Winters and Robin Williams.
<v Speaker 2>Not thinking about the other thing. Session that's all I
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be. I was on Leto and I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I've done what I wanted to do. I was on
<v Speaker 2>Letterman as a guest. You know, I was not even
<v Speaker 2>stand up. I was just on That's kind of that
<v Speaker 2>was like, ah, okay, I've done what I wanted to do.
<v Speaker 2>That's part of my quote unquote problem is but if
<v Speaker 2>you the thing is and the agents always get mad
<v Speaker 2>at me. They're like, we'll do this, try and do this,
<v Speaker 2>try and to do that. I'm like, well, I don't really,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't have a passion. And if
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a passion for it, I feel like
<v Speaker 2>there's so many people who do have a passion. I
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm taking a spot or I don't because
<v Speaker 2>I don't think i'd get it over the people with
<v Speaker 2>the passion. But it's almost like if they have a passion,
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like I belong And maybe I just
<v Speaker 2>need to rewire some but music I wish I had
<v Speaker 2>learned to do. I could sing a little more. I
<v Speaker 2>do some of the impressions I do with singing.
<v Speaker 1>I see you as a great Wayne Newton.
<v Speaker 2>A bunch of a bunch of instruments.
<v Speaker 4>I just don trumpeting the trumpet and the clarinet, bullshade
<v Speaker 4>just that gay the other day?
<v Speaker 1>Uh what was that playing out of both sides of
<v Speaker 1>your mouth?
<v Speaker 2>What was that?
<v Speaker 4>That's that's all politicians, But we do it with instruments.
<v Speaker 2>The uh what was I'm trying to think of. I
<v Speaker 2>did a sketch with Trump years ago, this was before
<v Speaker 2>he ran for president. Was Trump Tower. I was dressed
<v Speaker 2>as him and we go into Trump Tower. And after
<v Speaker 2>the sketch and we're walking around, he's like a sickond.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, sure, he goes come with me. It was
<v Speaker 2>sounded like WILLI wontka come with me? A lend of
<v Speaker 2>puter Trump and n and then we went to the
<v Speaker 2>Trump Evader, which is like a Wonvader, but go and
<v Speaker 2>flips back. But I wish I'd learned to read notes.
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of an ADHD if you hadn't figured that out. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but I would never sit down and learn. I learned
<v Speaker 2>to play ragged. I loved Scott Joplin. What do you
<v Speaker 2>do entertainer? But maple Leaf frect which, by the way,
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned Dorian Harewood earlier. He was he played Scott
<v Speaker 2>Joplin and something. Oh yeah, maybe he didn't told you
<v Speaker 2>almost I'm a liar.
<v Speaker 4>But that wasn't me. Didn't don't put that in my.
<v Speaker 2>Folks, come on show five minutes ago. That's what it's all. Batman,
<v Speaker 2>hacuna potato, Clinton yes, of course I do. I could
<v Speaker 2>throw that out there next up f d R. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The Clinton I met Clinton years ago. But Gillian Barbary,
<v Speaker 2>who was at Fox at the time too, he was
<v Speaker 2>shaking her hand a lot longer than mine.
<v Speaker 1>So uh, all the rumors are true to get her
<v Speaker 1>to shake Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the I was supposed to meet George W.
<v Speaker 2>Bush at the press at the Super Bowl years ago.
<v Speaker 2>It was a Dallas and uh, I was in Jerry
<v Speaker 2>Jones's box and I got up there.
<v Speaker 1>It sounds yeah creepy.
<v Speaker 2>And uh I had band he had been there and uh,
<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking it bad. Uh, which, by the way
<v Speaker 2>is uh oh I just went gold Blom, I went higher.
<v Speaker 2>I found out that's there. But uh, Jared Jerry hey
<v Speaker 2>hey band is Uh. I've I swear Matthew McConaughey is
<v Speaker 2>routing there as well.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, Jerry older is Jerry. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And I was up there in Jerry Jones. I got
<v Speaker 2>past the Secret Service and everything. Jamie Fox was there, uh,
<v Speaker 2>wearing sunglasses inside and I still don't understand that. But
<v Speaker 2>but it was the Super Bowl where the Steelers were
<v Speaker 2>playing the Packers, and Jerry Jones was sitting between George W.
<v Speaker 2>Bush and John Madden, and I was supposed to go
<v Speaker 2>up there and go and talk to the two guys.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what are you thinking.
<v Speaker 2>I think she's a pretty good game. Yeah, they're blowing
<v Speaker 2>them out right now. I think she'll you know, but
<v Speaker 2>the game got close again and Jerry sat back down.
<v Speaker 2>Now Laura Bush came out to me, goes the President.
<v Speaker 2>She called him the President too, which was very funny.
<v Speaker 2>The President. I just saw you on the TV this morning,
<v Speaker 2>like cold we I didn't say it. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>can we go talk? And you know, I get in there.
<v Speaker 2>I could be on the super Bowl doing my two
<v Speaker 2>biggest impressions at the time, and it didn't end up happening.
<v Speaker 2>It was at one of those moments where like, oh
<v Speaker 2>so close, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Do you how long does it take you to like
<v Speaker 3>develop an impression?
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's all different, and I think they've become their stages.
<v Speaker 2>There are stages. You try to find a way to
<v Speaker 2>get your own voice out of one. Right. The first
<v Speaker 2>thing is to try and how do I get how
<v Speaker 2>do I get my Frank Calliando voice out of this?
<v Speaker 2>Because you when people say you don't do a very
<v Speaker 2>good impression. What they do is they probably can hear
<v Speaker 2>your own voice in the persson. Now we all hear
<v Speaker 2>different things. That's I I like, and impressions and characters.
<v Speaker 1>Whatever.
<v Speaker 2>To magic tricks, people say, what do you mean? I go, well,
<v Speaker 2>you think I'm a sorcerer. What's the difference. Well, a
<v Speaker 2>magic trick is something you work on over and over
<v Speaker 2>and over to produce an outcome with a sleight of hand,
<v Speaker 2>and sorcery does not exist. So that's why I can't
<v Speaker 2>do it. So I work on something to get it
<v Speaker 2>to a point where I get my voice out of
<v Speaker 2>it and get it to that. Now people hear different pitches, though,
<v Speaker 2>so everything do. There's things. I'm fifty one now I
<v Speaker 2>believe I lost track, Willy, but I can't hear certain pitches.
<v Speaker 2>That gets too high, you can't hear it anymore. So people,
<v Speaker 2>when you do the magic trick, a younger person might
<v Speaker 2>not hear the same thing that somebody else hears because
<v Speaker 2>you're not you're not reproducing the person's exact voice. Now,
<v Speaker 2>with a cartoon, I think it's a little closer because
<v Speaker 2>when it's a cartoon, it's usually somebody else's character. What's
<v Speaker 2>the difference well, that's like saying I do four Gump
<v Speaker 2>and you're saying it's a Tom Hanks impression. No, it's
<v Speaker 2>full rest, and it's you're doing him doing something which
<v Speaker 2>is easier. You can reverse engineer that to the person's voice,
<v Speaker 2>but you're doing a magic trick to try and get
<v Speaker 2>somebody's voice.
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.
<v Speaker 2>So what was the original question? Because I deviated like
<v Speaker 2>I always tend to do.
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean that pretty much answered it. I was
<v Speaker 3>just asking, like, how long it takes you when you
<v Speaker 3>hear a voice?
<v Speaker 2>So that stage one is trying to get that voice
<v Speaker 2>out of the Stage two is what can I do
<v Speaker 2>with it to create and say more? I do that
<v Speaker 2>thing online, the Morgan Freeman. I think almost anybody, especially
<v Speaker 2>a voice actor, can do a Morgan Freeman. It just
<v Speaker 2>it would take time because the register that you have
<v Speaker 2>to get to is very deep.
<v Speaker 1>So what do you have to do?
<v Speaker 2>You have to be very quiet first, so you have
<v Speaker 2>to bring it down, and you have to bring it
<v Speaker 2>down here in front, not in the back, right, so
<v Speaker 2>you're you're a down front now if you're just going
<v Speaker 2>to go very deep, yes, I say a couple of words, ah, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 2>not Morgan freeman. But uh yes, ah yes, and then
<v Speaker 2>you find you work to build that muscle in your throat.
<v Speaker 2>Ah yes, Now you play with a little bit. Ah yes,
<v Speaker 2>Now you add phrase factor. The matter is. Truth of
<v Speaker 2>the matter is we are just playing notes in this
<v Speaker 2>world we call the language and it really is. It's
<v Speaker 2>how do you find how do you find that sound?
<v Speaker 1>First?
<v Speaker 2>And now how do you apply it? And yes, yes,
<v Speaker 2>it's it is music. It's doing an impression, doing a character.
<v Speaker 2>It's all music. You might not know the notes or
<v Speaker 2>to read the notes, but you know how to play
<v Speaker 2>the rhythm. The cadence speech pattern is another word. But
<v Speaker 2>you could have, like I said, with those tones, you
<v Speaker 2>could have the high walker the low walking. But you
<v Speaker 2>know where the words cut off. And what's that? Each
<v Speaker 2>person or character has their own personal dialect. And when
<v Speaker 2>you find that dialect, which when you think of a dialect,
<v Speaker 2>you think or an accent. Here you hear people do
<v Speaker 2>that they call like voice his accents, like you're doing
<v Speaker 2>the pooh accent. I mean no, no, that's a full
<v Speaker 2>on character.
<v Speaker 1>And they'll say yeah, and they'll say yeah. An odd
<v Speaker 1>one that it just bugs me is can you do
<v Speaker 1>your impression of Winnie the Pooh and.
<v Speaker 2>No, I am Winnie the Pool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, damn your eyes.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you're you're basically I am the one who knocks. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I am the one who steals honey.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you do?
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, it's a yeah, that's that's the amazing thing
<v Speaker 2>is you are when you are the person it's do
<v Speaker 2>the impression. Yeah yeah, And it's a weird thing where
<v Speaker 2>it shouldn't drive you crazy, but I think it's because
<v Speaker 2>you hear it often enough.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Ah, it's I am like you're there's a piece of
<v Speaker 2>your identity that becomes it, and there's a piece of
<v Speaker 2>you that goes.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to only be that.
<v Speaker 2>But then when they see.
<v Speaker 1>You as that, you're like yeah, yeah, you don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It's like in between. It's always yeah, you grasp this
<v Speaker 2>is always greener either.
<v Speaker 1>Side on both sides. Yeah, yeah, what what's the first
<v Speaker 1>thing that you do? Is it? Is it? The cadence?
<v Speaker 2>Cadence is the most I probably figure out physical stuff.
<v Speaker 2>I figure out where that face well, how you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, Like like Trump is astonishing different because it's and
<v Speaker 1>it's measured, it's very quiet, and a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't talk.
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's like you said, he's almost he's almost
<v Speaker 2>eighty now or is somewhere around there.
<v Speaker 1>It's different.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people do the big I can't think
<v Speaker 2>of his name, but James Austin on Saturday Night Live,
<v Speaker 2>they do that big wind up Trump and that's just
<v Speaker 2>not people still remember that.
<v Speaker 4>But it's a lot of this, a lot of this.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, and we're doing very quiet, very quiet.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and you have to know what to repeat, yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but it's that it's just a different He's my Trump.
<v Speaker 2>When I did Trump with Trump back, it was very different.
<v Speaker 2>I remember talking to the producer. I'm like, should I
<v Speaker 2>do it? Because when I got there with him, I
<v Speaker 2>could do it better. I could actually I was better
<v Speaker 2>at it, and like, no, do it the way you
<v Speaker 2>do it. It's funnier. I was like, okay, And I
<v Speaker 2>wish I had listened to him and just done it
<v Speaker 2>like because the voice is off. But it was my version,
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't this version. This quiet version is just
<v Speaker 2>something that's evolved over time. And I wanted to do
<v Speaker 2>I do impression that somebody else does. I want to
<v Speaker 2>do a different version than what they're doing. Yeah, sure,
<v Speaker 2>I mean Dana Carvey's probably the most stolen from person
<v Speaker 2>ever during the eighties nineties with impressions everybody like, not
<v Speaker 2>gonna do George h w Yeah, never did that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that was him creating that character.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, that's very true. Yeah, I've got a
<v Speaker 1>character named Hondo, a naka that people have said, well,
<v Speaker 1>that reminds me of Somebody's reminds me of somebody And
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that of course, you probably wouldn't
<v Speaker 1>have use for this. But when when I've come up
<v Speaker 1>with different characters over the years, he's from Star Wars
<v Speaker 1>Clone Wars, and he's he is a.
<v Speaker 2>Le Brenner, Okay, and.
<v Speaker 1>Charles Bronson put together, they'd have a hideous kid. But
<v Speaker 1>if they had a child, he would possibly sound like this. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>and so that was my Hondo. That's how I came
<v Speaker 1>up with a character.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you combine a couple different people to get the
<v Speaker 2>I mean that was another thing when I was first
<v Speaker 2>out in LA and they're talking to me about you know,
<v Speaker 2>some of these voice actors are amazing because you can say, now,
<v Speaker 2>add in a little bit of this, and you have
<v Speaker 2>to be able to when you're a voice actor at
<v Speaker 2>the highest level, you have to be able to take
<v Speaker 2>that direction. And if as soon as you can do that,
<v Speaker 2>they go, okay, we got a pro. We know we
<v Speaker 2>can work with this person all the time. And it's
<v Speaker 2>a skill. I mean, I think it's a skill that
<v Speaker 2>needs to be worked on. And you have to be
<v Speaker 2>able to listen, understand and then put it out. Then
<v Speaker 2>you have to produce. And that's Those are three different
<v Speaker 2>things and when you put them all together, you're Jim coming.
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<v Speaker 1>People ask me all the time, what kind of advice? What?
<v Speaker 1>What's a good advice to do? What I do or whatever?
<v Speaker 1>You know? Do you get that a lot? Do you?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>How do you be funny?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well I tell you just got to go do it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there's no such thing as practicing it. You just got
<v Speaker 2>to go do it.
<v Speaker 1>You stand up there.
<v Speaker 2>You got to go up there and take your lumps
<v Speaker 2>as a stand up comic. And just now, the thing is,
<v Speaker 2>you got to go to a lot of bad venues
<v Speaker 2>where you know, a laundromat or something. It's not realistic.
<v Speaker 2>And then people start getting using easy jokes and just
<v Speaker 2>get dirty for no reason.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I.
<v Speaker 2>Think there are things like that's a thing where a
<v Speaker 2>lot of up and comers will do that. Killed there
<v Speaker 2>are venues to go. You just got to be willing
<v Speaker 2>to take the beating. Yeah, and it you know, I've
<v Speaker 2>seen people go viral for being terrible.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is most people will forget. I mean
<v Speaker 2>it might bother you personally, but it might it so
<v Speaker 2>many things. Now it's the thing that bothers me too
<v Speaker 2>about the Internet, Like something terrible can be a jumping
<v Speaker 2>off point for somebody. You're going, that's what made you famous,
<v Speaker 2>and that's what's making and you're just milking that and
<v Speaker 2>who wouldn't. Yeah, but like the girl, Yeah, that was
<v Speaker 2>the first thing that came to my mind.
<v Speaker 1>It was but.
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you take those when are you going to have
<v Speaker 2>those opportunities?
<v Speaker 3>Exactly? It's get that money and get out.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just take it? Why not put it is.
<v Speaker 3>The next thing everybody's going to be looking at, you know.
<v Speaker 3>The attention lasts like it's very fleeting these days.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's crazy. And but I was like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>I just get stuck on quality and I lowered my
<v Speaker 2>quality control and I've gone and I've gone, Okay, I'll
<v Speaker 2>do some of this and some of this.
<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot of that.
<v Speaker 2>But it's just I just I look at it and go, well,
<v Speaker 2>you got to get somewhere. Yeah, I mean, but I
<v Speaker 2>get tired. One of the reasons I love doing podcasts
<v Speaker 2>like this is I get to talk and we you know,
<v Speaker 2>there were moments where new things came out or different
<v Speaker 2>things or different moments that can spur something in the future.
<v Speaker 2>And it might even have been more if I let
<v Speaker 2>you talk more.
<v Speaker 1>No, No, that's that's a problem. That's a great problem.
<v Speaker 3>That's a really fun one. That was really that was
<v Speaker 3>just a really good day of podcasts.
<v Speaker 1>That was I was I'm not done yet.
<v Speaker 3>I have something coming up right that you want to
<v Speaker 3>tell people about.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be I've got Frank on stage. Dot
<v Speaker 2>Com tells you all the dates there's that are going
<v Speaker 2>to be added. You don't even have to spell collendo
<v Speaker 2>if you want to spell calliendo.
<v Speaker 1>It's a letter.
<v Speaker 2>See the word alien in the word do Frank c.
<v Speaker 2>Alien do.
<v Speaker 1>But you don't need it. It's nice.
<v Speaker 2>It's at Frank Caliendo on all social media, which I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure will tag and be on everything.
<v Speaker 1>But see, I can't do that. My last name's Cummings.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, the wrong things are going to figure it
<v Speaker 1>out yourself, yours.
<v Speaker 6>Uh and that's when I realized that this was a
<v Speaker 6>g rated site. Yeah maybe PG, but we weren't going
<v Speaker 6>for the last name version.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you the Uh see what he did there, man,
<v Speaker 2>Luis Tamendez.
<v Speaker 1>He did a lot of things.
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it, folks, Come on, yes, use your
<v Speaker 2>name your advantage. How do you do that?
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Uh, Stark didn't work for me.
<v Speaker 2>Uh So that was what I used to do because
<v Speaker 2>it was when it was a person that I knew.
<v Speaker 2>I used to do it. But was Casey Caseon played
<v Speaker 2>Robin and back your super Friends meanwhay, but at the
<v Speaker 2>Whole of Justice that which is Ted Night. Meanwhile back
<v Speaker 2>at the Hall of Justice, it was but Casey Casey
<v Speaker 2>played Robin. The bit was you could tell because Batman
<v Speaker 2>and Robin would come in on the crime scene. Batman's like,
<v Speaker 2>who could have done this? There's Robin?
<v Speaker 4>Look, Batman, there's a letter from the Riddler.
<v Speaker 2>Addie right, Dear Batman and Robin.
<v Speaker 4>It's been a long time since I last shaw either
<v Speaker 4>one of you. But while I was in prison, I
<v Speaker 4>came up with the most diabolical plot of all time,
<v Speaker 4>applied to take over Gotham City.
<v Speaker 2>And the rest of the world.
<v Speaker 4>But I needed Batman because I'm the Riddler. I can't
<v Speaker 4>tell you who that partner is, but the answer lies
<v Speaker 4>in a song from nineteen seventy.
<v Speaker 2>But it was who was Who was the voice of
<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to be done in ISAA? But the voice
<v Speaker 2>of Fred.
<v Speaker 1>And the oh Fred Murray?
<v Speaker 2>No, no, the voice of Fred on Scooby Doo famous.
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, Casey case No, of course it was.
<v Speaker 2>Casey case with Scooby Fred Fred, Yeah, look up Fred.
<v Speaker 2>I can't think of who it is. He's a famous one.
<v Speaker 1>Uh he done a lot.
<v Speaker 2>He did a lot in here, a lot of artstles
<v Speaker 2>that came from this.
<v Speaker 1>Uh well, Frank Frankrank Welker Welker. Yeah, but.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he was.
<v Speaker 2>I think might have been a.
<v Speaker 1>Gremlin voice or yeah whatever.
<v Speaker 2>You know those yeah, like but that like those voices,
<v Speaker 2>those original the Hannah Barbera but I was I used
<v Speaker 2>the I used to use the super Friends announcer in
<v Speaker 2>my act. Means were somewhere in another joke. I grew
<v Speaker 2>up watching them.
<v Speaker 1>All Right, we're done, Get out.
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