The John Cena Classic Disaster, Why Fatu is in a Weird Spot, WWE Brings Back House Shows!
In this episode we answer listener emails, and talk about the fatal flaws in John Cena's "John Cena Classic" concept, why putting Jacob Fatu against Roman this early is a bad idea, and praise TKO for bringing back house shows this summer.
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2026-05-15
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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night main event comes to us next week, but <v Speaker 1>we have a week off here, take a breath before <v Speaker 1>we get the Saturday Night main event next weekend, and <v Speaker 1>then on Sunday the following week, eight days later, we <v Speaker 1>have the Clash in Italy. So two back to back <v Speaker 1>big events with Saturday Night main event being a wanna <v Speaker 1>bepl and the Clash in Italy obviously being a much <v Speaker 1>bigger one. Now as we get closer to it, we'll <v Speaker 1>give you predictions on the Clash in Italy and feels <v Speaker 1>like we just did backlash. We just did it, and <v Speaker 1>we'll get to all of the emails. Also in a moment, <v Speaker 1>I want to welcome you to the show and give <v Speaker 1>you an opportunity to join us on the ad free <v Speaker 1>side of the show, going to patreon dot com slash <v Speaker 1>WWE podcast. That's patreon dot com slash wwe podcast. If <v Speaker 1>you want to go ad free and get rid of <v Speaker 1>all this interruption, all these interruptions you hear about ten <v Speaker 1>minutes or so every ten minutes, you can get rid <v Speaker 1>of those very easily by going to Patreon, and I <v Speaker 1>hope you join us over there. If not cool, no problem, <v Speaker 1>you can always join us here and most of you do, <v Speaker 1>so thank you. Now I want to address John Cena's <v Speaker 1>criticism quickly of the criticism about the the John Cena Classic. Now, <v Speaker 1>you guys have heard about my take on it. I <v Speaker 1>have been very critical to the idea, and John Cena <v Speaker 1>has responded to that criticism, not mine specifically, but let's <v Speaker 1>talk about it. This is what John Cena said about <v Speaker 1>the criticism. This is according to CBS Sports. He said, quote, <v Speaker 1>now I've heard the perspective of wins and losses don't matter. <v Speaker 1>That's a very valid point. I love listening to feedback. <v Speaker 1>That is such a political way to speak, a very corporate, <v Speaker 1>hr sanitized way to speak. I love that question. I <v Speaker 1>love that feedback. Shut shut up. No, you don't know. <v Speaker 1>People don't actually speak like this. Normal people don't talk <v Speaker 1>like this. But let's get it gets worse, and I do. <v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of John CNN, his work and <v Speaker 1>his contributions. But all right, let's continue. He said, quote, <v Speaker 1>we we've got to figure out the fan votes. There's <v Speaker 1>still a lot to be done. But you can vote <v Speaker 1>for the winners. You can also vote for everybody. That's <v Speaker 1>a first time, and that's a first Okay again, Okay, <v Speaker 1>let me just say that when you are a massive <v Speaker 1>organization like WWE owned by TKO, and you have one <v Speaker 1>of your biggest stars coming out there on a pl <v Speaker 1>you can't present a half baked product. At least you shouldn't. <v Speaker 1>This shouldn't be a quote unquote work in progress. This <v Speaker 1>should have been thought through. And if you're such a <v Speaker 1>fan of the product, how is this not one of <v Speaker 1>the most glaring issues that wins and losses don't matter. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>you think that fans can just vote on whoever they <v Speaker 1>want because they just willy nilly decide that they like <v Speaker 1>this person the best. And by the way, Babyfaces will <v Speaker 1>have the distinct advantage in pushing somebody forward. So it's <v Speaker 1>not even based on any kind of merit or some <v Speaker 1>story that w is trying to tell us. It's a <v Speaker 1>popularity contest that Babyfaces are overwhelmingly going to win. So <v Speaker 1>it's just horrible storytelling. This is a fatal flaw. This <v Speaker 1>is not just a flaw that can be fixed. I <v Speaker 1>mean it could if you just get rid of the voting. <v Speaker 1>But this is not a oh, a bump in the road. <v Speaker 1>We'll massage this out, we'll circle back. No, No, this <v Speaker 1>is a fatal flaw in this idea. So I hope <v Speaker 1>you'll love that feedback. Mister hr, Let's continue. Can you <v Speaker 1>tell how I feel about this? He said, so in <v Speaker 1>an announcement. This in an and ounce so in an announcement. <v Speaker 1>This is big. There is a lot of history being made. <v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck about history. You guys are <v Speaker 1>so caught up in your own history. It's like a <v Speaker 1>self fulfilling prophecy. Let history happen as a side effect. <v Speaker 1>Let history happen as part of the organic process. Don't <v Speaker 1>talk about it upfront, because when you make it about <v Speaker 1>just making history, it becomes less important. It becomes less <v Speaker 1>historical and less impactful because it tells me what your <v Speaker 1>motivations are. Oh my god, I swear I'm gonna get <v Speaker 1>through this. Okay, We're coming up with a new event, right, <v Speaker 1>because that's exactly what we need as another PLI that's <v Speaker 1>what we need, more meaningless championships. And then he says, <v Speaker 1>we're coming up with a new championship again see previous statement. <v Speaker 1>We're gonna give NXT people a chance to face WWE <v Speaker 1>people in exhibition matches that are just a standalone part <v Speaker 1>of the event, and the fans are gonna be able <v Speaker 1>to vote and everybody qualifies. Oh my god, all right, <v Speaker 1>good thing. You guys can't see me on video right now. <v Speaker 1>I'm having a tough time, all right, and some of <v Speaker 1>you out there not that serious, bro. All right, well look, <v Speaker 1>I mean I'll be the judge of what I find <v Speaker 1>important in my life, okay, because I've received some of <v Speaker 1>that bisism before whatever, but more important, more to the point, <v Speaker 1>let's let's break this down a little bit, and I <v Speaker 1>promise we're almost through this to get to the emails, <v Speaker 1>pinky swear, all right. He said that again, beyond the <v Speaker 1>new event, new championship, you guys, I've talked about that. <v Speaker 1>He said that we're going to give NXT people a <v Speaker 1>chance to face WWE people in exhibition matches that are <v Speaker 1>just a standalone part of the event. Why does that <v Speaker 1>need to be a stand a little event. Why can't <v Speaker 1>that just happen organically? Call ups from NXT are so <v Speaker 1>much more fun and unexpected than just forcing the NXT <v Speaker 1>talent to be a be in a matchup with the <v Speaker 1>main roster talent. It also takes away potential dream matches <v Speaker 1>down the line, because you're like already I already saw that. <v Speaker 1>Remember that with that John c in a thing, it <v Speaker 1>takes away some of the magic. I understand that his <v Speaker 1>whole thing, his whole thing is trying to give back. Well, <v Speaker 1>figure out another way to give back. Okay, this ain't it, <v Speaker 1>And maybe I'm totally wrong, maybe this will be a <v Speaker 1>rousing success. But I have watched wrestling longer than John <v Speaker 1>Cena has been a part of it. Now, it's not <v Speaker 1>to say I'm more qualified than John Cena, although as <v Speaker 1>a fan, I'm more qualified to speak because he being <v Speaker 1>a part of it. Inside the business, being inside baseball, <v Speaker 1>so to speak, it distorts your view of what the <v Speaker 1>general public wants and what a fan wants. You can't <v Speaker 1>get in the eyes of a true fan because you're <v Speaker 1>not one of the true fans in the sense of <v Speaker 1>being on the outside. For as long as I have it, <v Speaker 1>many others have. Yeah, you may be inside the business, <v Speaker 1>but you've been poisoned by the business. You have bought <v Speaker 1>into the corporate bullshit, so you actually don't have a <v Speaker 1>clear view of what the audience wants and you don't <v Speaker 1>see some of the massive flaws because you are drinking <v Speaker 1>the kool aid. All right, So again, an XT should <v Speaker 1>be an organic call up, not a forced part of <v Speaker 1>the event. It should be and I actually like the <v Speaker 1>call up part of it. And I know that this <v Speaker 1>isn't going to force them to be called up, but <v Speaker 1>it's going to take away some of the magic of <v Speaker 1>potential future matchups. And he says the fans are going <v Speaker 1>to be able to vote everybody qualifies. Again, everybody should <v Speaker 1>not fucking qualify. I know, in today's world, nobody should <v Speaker 1>be excluded. Everything's about inclusivity, which is total bullshit. I <v Speaker 1>think there should be more exclusivity than ever, you know why, <v Speaker 1>because then the system would be based on merit, not <v Speaker 1>just on who likes who? How is that? How is <v Speaker 1>you being liked? Some kind of overwhelming bullet point on <v Speaker 1>your resume? Overwhelming qualification to be a champion's it's the <v Speaker 1>toxicity of twenty twenty six culture that everybody gets a trophy. <v Speaker 1>Nobody's left out. Fuck that people should be left out. <v Speaker 1>People should feel bad about not qualifying and making it, <v Speaker 1>you know why, because that forces you to work for <v Speaker 1>what you gain and what you earn, not just well <v Speaker 1>like an half ass it and I get a trophy too. <v Speaker 1>Fuck that, That's exactly the problem with today one of <v Speaker 1>the problems, and John Cenna is reverberating that through this initiative. Okay, <v Speaker 1>he says, there's a lot of information to do in <v Speaker 1>one five minute interview, so I expected questions. It's really exciting. <v Speaker 1>I'm trying to to do something new. Wwe we're trying <v Speaker 1>to do something new. And look, I will say this <v Speaker 1>in a more positive light. I can totally appreciate and <v Speaker 1>respect that he's trying to do something new. I will <v Speaker 1>put that out there up front, or I should have <v Speaker 1>led with that instead of just going into hammering this <v Speaker 1>whole thing. I respect him trying to give back. I <v Speaker 1>appreciate his effort to try something new. That's his whole <v Speaker 1>life view is to try something new, go after it, <v Speaker 1>go all in. I understand that I can respect that, <v Speaker 1>and I'm not being hyperbolic. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm <v Speaker 1>being serious. I actually do appreciate that new is always <v Speaker 1>good for fans most of the time. Well, fans want <v Speaker 1>new just as a default. But sometimes you just have <v Speaker 1>to take the l and realize, h shit, yeah this <v Speaker 1>is this ain't gonna work. This ain't gonna work. And <v Speaker 1>I want to say you know what, like, you should <v Speaker 1>not put a half baked product out there, and that's <v Speaker 1>what they've done here, That's what John Sen has done. <v Speaker 1>And if this is truly the brainchild of John Cena, <v Speaker 1>this may be one of the most faulty ideas that <v Speaker 1>I've ever seen as a concept come out. And it's <v Speaker 1>just it is. And I don't care that John seen <v Speaker 1>his name is attached to it. I don't care whose <v Speaker 1>name is attached to I don't care if it's Michael Jordan, <v Speaker 1>I don't care if it's Lebron James. Pick your favorite, <v Speaker 1>I mean Tom Brady, I don't care. Go down some <v Speaker 1>professional sports lists of legends, like the biggest legends of <v Speaker 1>all time. I don't give a shit. I don't care <v Speaker 1>whose name is attached to it. This is a dud. <v Speaker 1>It's a dud because it's addressing no needs, no complaints <v Speaker 1>by the fans. He just took this idea AND's like, hey, <v Speaker 1>you know what'd be great if we did something new. <v Speaker 1>This is something new. Okay, well new doesn't mean good. New, <v Speaker 1>just means it's new. But you could also have an <v Speaker 1>idea and it's new of you know, I don't know, <v Speaker 1>removing wrestling from a wrestling show. That's a new idea. <v Speaker 1>But does that mean automatically it's great. See, it doesn't <v Speaker 1>mean just because it's new it's good. I mean, but <v Speaker 1>at the same time, I appreciate he's trying to do <v Speaker 1>something new. So he says in ends closing, that's going <v Speaker 1>to come with some praise, it's also going to come <v Speaker 1>with some critique. And as one of the most polarizing <v Speaker 1>figures in w WE for over the past twenty three years, <v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be normal if there wasn't folks that were <v Speaker 1>cheering in folks that weren't. Well, yeah, except you're not <v Speaker 1>performing in the ring. John And I know he's he's <v Speaker 1>speaking like a corporate stooge because he is. As I've said, <v Speaker 1>this is no there's no way better to position where <v Speaker 1>Johnson is at in his career now than propositioning him <v Speaker 1>as and labeling him as a glorified corporate cheerleader. And <v Speaker 1>I get it, he's being paid by the company. He <v Speaker 1>loves pro wrestling, or at least sports entertainment, as he <v Speaker 1>would probably say, because he's been involved in just really <v Speaker 1>the sports entertainment part of it, and he's been one <v Speaker 1>of the legends of biggest legends of all time. Absolutely, <v Speaker 1>but he's not in the ring anymore. You can't just <v Speaker 1>take what criticism you're getting now and just kind of <v Speaker 1>brush it off like you did with your wrestling matches. <v Speaker 1>In your personality, this is not just about you right now, <v Speaker 1>right like you could take that criticism and booing you <v Speaker 1>get in the arena and going, well, people love this character, <v Speaker 1>people hated whatever. No, this is a concept you're trying <v Speaker 1>to push that changes the schedule of WWE, and you <v Speaker 1>said you're going all in on it. This is not <v Speaker 1>just affecting you, so you can't. You actually have to <v Speaker 1>magnify the criticisms and realize, Okay, we're not going to <v Speaker 1>satisfy everybody, but what are some of the very common <v Speaker 1>thread theme themed problems that we're hereering over and over? <v Speaker 1>How do we address that? How do we take the <v Speaker 1>wins and losses and actually make them mean something. I <v Speaker 1>can't believe that John Cena did not see this to <v Speaker 1>begin with, kind of impossible. As intelligent as he makes <v Speaker 1>himself out to be and is well spoken and corporately <v Speaker 1>hr sanitized language that he likes to use, which is <v Speaker 1>how he speaks now, at least publicly. I'm sure privately <v Speaker 1>he doesn't talk like this. I've heard private conversations off <v Speaker 1>the mic and he's very much an F bomb normal dude. <v Speaker 1>But when he's speaking publicly, he's adapted this human Resources <v Speaker 1>approved like vocabulary, and it's annoying. It's so I hate <v Speaker 1>hearing him speak, not because he's not well spoken by <v Speaker 1>today's quote unquote definition of how you should speak as <v Speaker 1>a corporate stooge, but just as a human being. Like <v Speaker 1>if I had somebody in my life that spoke like this, <v Speaker 1>I mean, I tell I wouldn't even talk to them, <v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be friends with This is not relatable. I <v Speaker 1>hate the way he speaks. Hearing him speak is painful <v Speaker 1>because you know it's an act of how he's speaking. <v Speaker 1>You know that it's him realizing he has to speak <v Speaker 1>like this because he's not a wrestler. He's trying to prove, <v Speaker 1>he's trying to put forth an image. It's no longer <v Speaker 1>about just his character, and he's spoken like this for <v Speaker 1>a while now, but hearing him speak is just it <v Speaker 1>physically pains me to hear him speak, because it's worse, <v Speaker 1>almost worse than hearing politicians speak. Okay, I promise I'm <v Speaker 1>dumb with that for now unless somebody else brings it up. <v Speaker 1>Good God. All right, so some of you here come <v Speaker 1>the comments. You spent fifteen minutes fifteen minutes too long ranting. <v Speaker 1>Okay again, if you guys don't like the rants, and <v Speaker 1>many of you on Spotify for whatever, Spotify I mean <v Speaker 1>just has issues with me to Spotify fans, which is fine. <v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm happier listening. That's cool. But some of <v Speaker 1>you just don't like the rants, and I guess I <v Speaker 1>don't know what to tell you. There's lots of other <v Speaker 1>wrestling shows out there that will just praise the product <v Speaker 1>and everything's happy, go lucky and everything. You know, it's great, <v Speaker 1>it's wonderful. I mean, I know there's streamers like that. <v Speaker 1>There are streamers like that. Not Santy's app He's he's <v Speaker 1>actually fairly coherent, but con Man good guys like it. <v Speaker 1>Seems like a genuinely good guy. But everything with him <v Speaker 1>is usually just flowers and roses and everything's great, everything's great. <v Speaker 1>But anyway, those guys are much more successful, and praise <v Speaker 1>to them. Okay, let's get to the emails. We only <v Speaker 1>have a couple this week. Let's talk to k from <v Speaker 1>Toronto and he says, I apologize for lack of input, <v Speaker 1>but WWE has pissed me off to no end. Booking <v Speaker 1>is predictable and boring. Just seems like an old horse <v Speaker 1>keeps getting flogged. Some of the pros though Dan Housen, <v Speaker 1>I would agree, Yeah, he's a he's a he's a character. <v Speaker 1>He's not a wrestler, but he's just like this cartoon <v Speaker 1>character that has been successful. That's how I would kind <v Speaker 1>of categorize Stan Housen as a real life cartoon character <v Speaker 1>that has found success. The New Lady's Factor with j C. Jane, <v Speaker 1>I would agree, Yes, yes, I would agree that that <v Speaker 1>faction is it's got some momentum behind it. It's new, <v Speaker 1>they're young. Their call up. See, this is how NXT <v Speaker 1>should be presented, not in a forced event, but continuing <v Speaker 1>the potential of Live getting attacked by Roxanne, yes, which <v Speaker 1>we all know is coming. That tensions building with Roxanne <v Speaker 1>and Live could end up being a SummerSlam match. The <v Speaker 1>bringing up of Joe Hendry and soul Ruka. Yeah, although <v Speaker 1>I would say that Joe Hendry's call up has been <v Speaker 1>lackluster because they missed the boat by about two years. <v Speaker 1>When it comes to his peak popularity and interest, I mean, <v Speaker 1>this should be much a bit more of a big deal, <v Speaker 1>and it's not. Feels kind of like, oh, they finally <v Speaker 1>brought him up. Huh, they didn't strike when the iron <v Speaker 1>was hot. It's cooled off significantly and now they need <v Speaker 1>to figure out a way to heat it back up. <v Speaker 1>But soul Ruka has been a really fun addition. Yes, <v Speaker 1>she had a horrible botch on Raw, like embarrassing, but <v Speaker 1>it happens. But overall, I think she's going to be <v Speaker 1>a big big player on Raw or on SmackDown wherever <v Speaker 1>she ends up. Ultimately, breaker versus rollins, I would agree <v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. Gunther. Yes, when he actually shows up, <v Speaker 1>they keep him off TV like much too often. I <v Speaker 1>want to see more of Gunther. To me, he is <v Speaker 1>like one of the sole men on the roster that <v Speaker 1>makes it feel like a pro wrestling show. You know, <v Speaker 1>he's not a character, He's just Gunther. He's this badass <v Speaker 1>dude that has an awesome look, a great facial structure. <v Speaker 1>I mean, he's just got a great facial structure that <v Speaker 1>just just he's born with badass looks and he's worked <v Speaker 1>his ass off to get his physique in line, and <v Speaker 1>he is just pro wrestling. He is what pro wrestling is. <v Speaker 1>I love it. Now. One thing that I will mention too, <v Speaker 1>and this is this is my final thought, I promise <v Speaker 1>on the John Cena Classic. Okay, if you have the <v Speaker 1>fan voting, I'm gonna say this in a convoice. If <v Speaker 1>the fan voting goes through as described on at Backlash <v Speaker 1>by John Cena, if it actually is true that fans <v Speaker 1>can vote through whoever even though that person's that said <v Speaker 1>person lost, and they can vote on losers, which again <v Speaker 1>is just so horrible, then why even have a wrestling <v Speaker 1>tournament or whatever they end up whatever structure it ends <v Speaker 1>up being, Why even why even go through the wrestling <v Speaker 1>part of it, because all that matters is the votes. <v Speaker 1>Ultimately they can supersede and veto any decision in any <v Speaker 1>of the matches. The matches are actually useless. If the <v Speaker 1>fan votes are really what will determine who wins and loses, <v Speaker 1>then it's just stupid to put wrestling around it because <v Speaker 1>that doesn't have any say in the ultimate finish, in <v Speaker 1>the ultimate winner, you know, like the wrestling you could <v Speaker 1>just have a bracket if they do tournament style. You <v Speaker 1>could have a bracket with all the people that WWE <v Speaker 1>has decided to put into this. Again, we'll pretend it's <v Speaker 1>a tournament, in this tournament, and all you would have <v Speaker 1>to do is just ask the fans, who do you <v Speaker 1>want out of these I don't know twenty people to <v Speaker 1>be champion. That's it. That's all you'd have to do, <v Speaker 1>because ultimately the matches don't fucking matter. You see what <v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That's how flawed that is. That's how flawed <v Speaker 1>that whole premise is for the John Cena Classic that actually, <v Speaker 1>you don't need to have any wrestling. You just throw <v Speaker 1>twenty pictures up and say, vote on who you want <v Speaker 1>to be champion. That's really what you're asking. You don't <v Speaker 1>even need the wrestling. Okay, moving on, said that kind <v Speaker 1>of com but not really all right, all right? The <v Speaker 1>cons Cody, Yeah, I know you're still I would agree, <v Speaker 1>but I would say I would think, here, here's a <v Speaker 1>prediction for twenty twenty six. Excuse me, Cody Rhodes turns <v Speaker 1>heel in twenty twenty six. What about that? Would that <v Speaker 1>change your opinion? Kay? Secondly, the continual tribal nonsense, including <v Speaker 1>solo so CoA, Yeah, I would agree. I don't need <v Speaker 1>to see any more tribal warfare, inter family samoan rivalries. <v Speaker 1>I don't need. I don't need Solo versus Jacob, Jacob <v Speaker 1>versus Ja Ja versus Solo, solo versus Roman, Roman versus Jay, <v Speaker 1>Jacob versus Roman. I don't need any said combinations. I <v Speaker 1>know they're trying to bring Jacob Fatu up to that <v Speaker 1>next level, but here's what I'll say, They've stifled it <v Speaker 1>by putting him against Roman. Reigns one of the biggest <v Speaker 1>baby faces of all time right now, arguably the biggest <v Speaker 1>baby face in the company, and now the fans don't <v Speaker 1>know what to do with Jacob. The reaction is like, <v Speaker 1>it's kind of it's negative because he's attacking Roman and <v Speaker 1>the fans are going to side with Roman if they <v Speaker 1>had to choose. But also the reactions kind of dulled <v Speaker 1>for Jacob just generally because the fans don't know what <v Speaker 1>to do anymore. They had a nice organic push for Jacob. <v Speaker 1>He was the guy that the fans were supporting, especially <v Speaker 1>coming out of the MFTs, and now that he's faced <v Speaker 1>Roman once and he's face he's gonna face him again, <v Speaker 1>and he's attacking Roman. He's being vicious, the deathlock whatever <v Speaker 1>it is, like they have put the fans in a <v Speaker 1>position to go I don't know what to do here, <v Speaker 1>like this is confusing. Things are going well and then <v Speaker 1>you put him against Roman and what am I supposed <v Speaker 1>to do with this? It's weird. It's weird. I don't <v Speaker 1>like them. It was too soon to do that. That's <v Speaker 1>a story you build up for over a year behind <v Speaker 1>the scenes or whatever, and then it would have worked <v Speaker 1>and the fans could have eventually got behind Jacob. But <v Speaker 1>it just happened much too quickly. But the tribal stuff, <v Speaker 1>I don't need to see any combination of anyone at all. <v Speaker 1>As if you're Samoan, you should be disbarred and just <v Speaker 1>you should be arrested if you are put in a storyline. <v Speaker 1>Whoever comes up with the storyline to make Simoonan versus <v Speaker 1>Samoan in any capacity at all at all? I mean, <v Speaker 1>unless they're able to resurrect Umaga, which is a shame <v Speaker 1>that he's no longer here, but Umaga that'd be a <v Speaker 1>fun little combo. Imagine Umaga versus Jacob Fatu. What the <v Speaker 1>he I mean geez, impossible, as we know, but just <v Speaker 1>think about Umaga, like the late two thousands Umaga versus <v Speaker 1>the current Jacob Fatu. You talk about a dream match, <v Speaker 1>my goodness, all right, and the Oscar crap, well, I <v Speaker 1>would actually have disagreed a little bit. Osca is she's <v Speaker 1>don't I mean, if you're not enjoying her work right now, <v Speaker 1>She's going to be gone for a little while. According <v Speaker 1>to reports that she has some personal business to attend <v Speaker 1>you in Japan, so whatever that means. I don't know <v Speaker 1>if we should expect to see Oscar back even the <v Speaker 1>rest of this year. I don't think she's totally done <v Speaker 1>with WWE, but honestly, based on what I'm hearing and <v Speaker 1>the feeling I'm getting, I would say maybe around January <v Speaker 1>for Royal Rumble is where we would see her back again, <v Speaker 1>if at all. I mean, I could be wrong and <v Speaker 1>she's back in Summer Slam. I highly highly doubt it, <v Speaker 1>or maybe later this year, but for now, I think <v Speaker 1>Oscar's taking a break, dealing with her family, maybe just <v Speaker 1>overall deciding hey, I might be done with wrestling, So okay, <v Speaker 1>only tip of the iceberg missing Drew and Glad cmpunk <v Speaker 1>is nowhere to be found. Well, I think cmpunk will <v Speaker 1>be back in the coming weeks, so get ready. But <v Speaker 1>also Drew McIntyre. You know, I do miss Drew, but <v Speaker 1>it's also nice that he took a break. See time away. <v Speaker 1>He can do a lot of fing for a lot <v Speaker 1>of people. It can make fans remember that they miss <v Speaker 1>you that when you come back. Wow, there was something <v Speaker 1>really missing here and I didn't realize how valuable you <v Speaker 1>were to the show. That can happen and often does. <v Speaker 1>Time away is a It is a gift, it really is. <v Speaker 1>So I actually don't mind that Punkin Andrew took some <v Speaker 1>time away from the product. It's fine with me. Finally, <v Speaker 1>I have been a wrestling fan for fifty plus years, <v Speaker 1>and although they have been they have been many, but <v Speaker 1>the gingerbread Man funeral is the stupidest thing of all time. <v Speaker 1>Thank you for the venting opportunity. You're the best. Go <v Speaker 1>Jays go Yeah? Well yeah, well Blue Jays are Where <v Speaker 1>are they in the division? Like third or something? Yeah, <v Speaker 1>we got a long way to go in the in <v Speaker 1>the baseball season, So I'm sure at the end of <v Speaker 1>the day the Blue Jays will be in the playoffs, <v Speaker 1>whether it's at the top of the division or in <v Speaker 1>the wild card. I don't think you have to worry. <v Speaker 1>Although the Rays that the Tampa Bay Rays are doing <v Speaker 1>a lot with such a lope. What they got an <v Speaker 1>eighty million dollar pay roll and they are in first <v Speaker 1>place in the American League East. An incredible organization. They <v Speaker 1>can do so much with so little. It's quite impressive. <v Speaker 1>But don't worry. I think at the end of the day, <v Speaker 1>your team will end up being there and maybe we <v Speaker 1>meet again in the playoffs, hopefully with a different result. <v Speaker 1>But now the gingerbread Man, hey, I mean, I don't <v Speaker 1>want to rehash this. I think I ranted about it <v Speaker 1>last week. It's horrible, it's embarrassing. It's what people who <v Speaker 1>don't watch wrestling think wrestling is. It's when you have <v Speaker 1>that friend or people that make fun of you, or <v Speaker 1>people that look down on wrestling think of wrestling. That's <v Speaker 1>what they think of and then it actually happens on <v Speaker 1>the show. That's that. It's the stupid, just bad attempt <v Speaker 1>to humor. And I know people enjoyed it. The Ai <v Speaker 1>slop that was put forward with the gingerbread Man and <v Speaker 1>all these epic moments of the company of Austin and <v Speaker 1>Hogan and Andre. Yeah, I get it, but hey, that's <v Speaker 1>not for me on the show. I don't know really <v Speaker 1>who it's for. I don't want this to contain I <v Speaker 1>can't believe this gingerbread thing man Man has continued at all. <v Speaker 1>It's just horrible. It's horrible. It's what happens when you <v Speaker 1>get executives who don't like pro wrestling running creative. That's <v Speaker 1>what you have is a this is a hatred of <v Speaker 1>pro wrestling. That's when you have people who actually hate <v Speaker 1>what pro wrestling is at its core in charge of creative. <v Speaker 1>This is the result you get. All Right, a couple more, <v Speaker 1>Dennis says, Hey, I hope you and the listeners are <v Speaker 1>doing well. First of all, let me say I was <v Speaker 1>very amused at your recent rant about Jacob Fattu. With <v Speaker 1>DJ no longer doing the Joe Hendry Report on the show, <v Speaker 1>why don't you do a weekly Jacob Fatu rant? Well, <v Speaker 1>I think I did, Dennis a little bit. I mean, <v Speaker 1>I did a John Cena rant for twenty minutes at <v Speaker 1>the top of the show. But yeah, the weekly Jacob <v Speaker 1>Fatou rant could be could be a thing. Although I <v Speaker 1>would venture to guess that a lot of what I'll <v Speaker 1>say will be repeated, and then it's not fun to <v Speaker 1>listen to the same thing I say over and over <v Speaker 1>and over. But I will continue to give you my <v Speaker 1>opinion on Jacob Fatou, I mean, just by default, because <v Speaker 1>he's going to be a part of the weekly show <v Speaker 1>moving forward, barring some injury. But you'll get it probably anyway. <v Speaker 1>I won't be it won't be a separate little gimmick <v Speaker 1>I do. It'll just be what I think about Jacob <v Speaker 1>Fatu that particular week, And since I don't like his <v Speaker 1>character as just a general rule or who he is <v Speaker 1>as a person seemingly I mean, I mean, I usually <v Speaker 1>don't try to go there, but you know, you know <v Speaker 1>that I just really don't adhere to or align with <v Speaker 1>much of what he says outside of the ring. I <v Speaker 1>think he is a self righteous, really soft individual, thin <v Speaker 1>skinned individual that has also bought into the corporate jargon <v Speaker 1>that Vince should just shut up and watch the product. Yeah, okay, <v Speaker 1>I'm starting to trigger myself, but I won't all right. <v Speaker 1>Online reports are saying that a percentage of the audience <v Speaker 1>left SmackDown during the gingerbread Man's funeral. If that's true. <v Speaker 1>Can you blame them paying good money for that shit? Yeah, well, <v Speaker 1>I don't know how true that is. I've heard that too, <v Speaker 1>even if it was some people. I don't know how <v Speaker 1>true that is. If people actually walked out from that, <v Speaker 1>I actually I tend to doubt it, only because SmackDown <v Speaker 1>tickets and tickets in general are so expensive, and they <v Speaker 1>knew they had more of the show to go. So <v Speaker 1>people may have walked out. But if they walked out <v Speaker 1>even because of that segment, they probably just went to <v Speaker 1>the bathroom, got merch whatever, walked around, even if they <v Speaker 1>really didn't want to see the segment, they just left. <v Speaker 1>But again, people when they get distracted now and they <v Speaker 1>don't want to watch something, what do they do? They <v Speaker 1>sit on their phones? You know. So not only would <v Speaker 1>those people, if this is true, be wasting their money, <v Speaker 1>and a lot of money nowadays for tickets, but the <v Speaker 1>default reaction for people who are bored or need constant stimulation, <v Speaker 1>or don't like the product or whatever's in front of them, <v Speaker 1>what do they do? They set up their phones. So <v Speaker 1>I tend to believe that's not true, you know, I do. <v Speaker 1>It's a different world now, it's a different world. We <v Speaker 1>have an instant distraction device in our pockets at all times. <v Speaker 1>You know, we have the sum total of human knowledge <v Speaker 1>sitting in our pockets at all times. If you don't <v Speaker 1>like something, what do we do? Now? We just TikTok Instagram. Uh, <v Speaker 1>that's what we do. YouTube, start watching some random shit <v Speaker 1>like so. I tend to believe that's actually not true <v Speaker 1>the more I think about it. All Right, what are <v Speaker 1>they doing with Ray Phoenix? He's a shell of the <v Speaker 1>wrestler that he was in aw He was one of <v Speaker 1>the highlights there. Hopefully they will team up with Penta <v Speaker 1>at some point. They're a great tag team to watch. <v Speaker 1>What I've noticed is that TKO seems to have more <v Speaker 1>interest in Raw than SmackDown. SmackDown had less matches at <v Speaker 1>Wrestlemanning than Raw. SmackDown has more of the comedy acts <v Speaker 1>on it, Dan Housen, Minni hous In Truth Miss Wilson, <v Speaker 1>which is too much on one show. I like some <v Speaker 1>comedy on wrestling, but not too much. Well, again, that <v Speaker 1>just reiterates my point that they TKO executives, not Triple H. <v Speaker 1>I believe TKO executives value comedy over what actually makes <v Speaker 1>wrestling great and that's the I don't know, fucking wrestling <v Speaker 1>and characters and the storylines that make sense and are relatable. <v Speaker 1>Not everything needs to be deadly serious with gunther like <v Speaker 1>characters in a military style format. No, but you are <v Speaker 1>seeing this trend, especially on SmackDown, towards the comedic, non serious, <v Speaker 1>child like storylines with Sammy Zain and the gingerbread Man <v Speaker 1>and Trick Williams and Lil YACHTI and as you said, <v Speaker 1>Minni Housen, Dan House and the Midgets the Truth Miss <v Speaker 1>Kit Wilson. It is a bit skewed, no doubt, and <v Speaker 1>SmackDown is it's a bit of a mess right now. <v Speaker 1>But as far as Ray Phoenix goes to I don't <v Speaker 1>know what they're doing either. I didn't watch much of <v Speaker 1>his work, admittedly in AW I'll take your word for it, <v Speaker 1>but seeing him in the WWE ring, in the talent <v Speaker 1>that he can showcase, I don't know what they're doing either. <v Speaker 1>And I think I saw something recently about Ray Phoenix <v Speaker 1>he put out there that he doesn't feel that W's <v Speaker 1>given him really any opportunity to show what he can <v Speaker 1>do and give him a real chance. I can't argue <v Speaker 1>with that. They've given him. They've given him some in <v Speaker 1>ring time, but I don't think enough to really show <v Speaker 1>and connect with the audience on a level that you <v Speaker 1>would hope he could. So I don't know what his <v Speaker 1>role is right now. I don't either. I'm a bit befuddled. <v Speaker 1>Thanks Dennis. One more. This is Curtis and he says, Hey, Matt, <v Speaker 1>wwe just posted. They will be in my closest city <v Speaker 1>near the end of August in London, Ontario for a <v Speaker 1>house show on a Thursday. Friday will be Toronto for SmackDown, <v Speaker 1>and Monday will be Ottawa for Raw Live show. I <v Speaker 1>attended was SummerSlam in twenty nineteen in Toronto, but last <v Speaker 1>time I was at a house show was twenty seventeen. <v Speaker 1>That's what I will be attending because it's generally cheaper <v Speaker 1>and the arena it's at is a lot smaller than <v Speaker 1>Toronto and Ottawa, which is good because getting a decent <v Speaker 1>seat will be will still be a good seat being <v Speaker 1>close to the ring. I hope you have a good time. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>and you say that, I hope. I do feel like <v Speaker 1>house shows are more fun. There's way less pressure for <v Speaker 1>the wrestlers without the cameras, the twenty seventeen house show <v Speaker 1>I was at. I was front row and I was <v Speaker 1>cheering for Neville, who was a heel, and he came <v Speaker 1>out of the ring and got in my face and <v Speaker 1>called me an idiot. Lol. Yeah, I feel like going <v Speaker 1>to house shows nowadays, though they are expensive, the best <v Speaker 1>way to go to a house show. That is the <v Speaker 1>best way to go to a house show. That's just <v Speaker 1>my opinion. If I wanted to watch Raw or SmackDown <v Speaker 1>nowadays with this stupid TKO era, I would rather just <v Speaker 1>watch a televised event in the comfort of my home <v Speaker 1>with some Captain Morgan and not having to pay seventeen <v Speaker 1>dollars a drink at the concession stands in lineups for <v Speaker 1>hundreds of people. Anyways, my tickets are purchased for the <v Speaker 1>show in August, and I'm excited because it's been a <v Speaker 1>while since tending an event. Thanks Matt. I would like <v Speaker 1>to say I personally enjoy your rants, especially about Fatu. <v Speaker 1>I feel like we're agreeing on a lot of stuff. <v Speaker 1>Keep on ranting them all for you, well, thank you. <v Speaker 1>I'm all for it. Thank you, and Curtis, I'm glad <v Speaker 1>you agree. A lot of people don't it's the nature <v Speaker 1>of it. Except here's the difference. Here's the difference between <v Speaker 1>me and Jacob Fatu. I welcome disagreement. I think it's good. <v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sit here that it would be <v Speaker 1>the equivalent of me saying, if you don't like what <v Speaker 1>I have to say, well, then shut up and enjoy. Like, <v Speaker 1>shut up and enjoy what I have to say. Don't <v Speaker 1>you dare disagree with me? That just it shows such <v Speaker 1>a weakness on the mind of Fatu or anybody that <v Speaker 1>says that it's part of being a public figure. I'm <v Speaker 1>not saying I'm a public figure, but I put this <v Speaker 1>out to a public forum, and I welcome disagreement. I <v Speaker 1>welcome I bring it on. Man. It's fun, you know, <v Speaker 1>as long as we keep it civil, which is sometimes <v Speaker 1>difficult to do. People attack you personally whatever you know. <v Speaker 1>But as long as it doesn't break down into like <v Speaker 1>death threats and shit like that, which I've seen. I've <v Speaker 1>seen it. I've even gotten one or two myself over <v Speaker 1>the years. It's like, just grow the fuck up. It's wrestling, guys, <v Speaker 1>you know, calm down. I love it too. I'm passionate <v Speaker 1>about it. But you know, by the way, death threats <v Speaker 1>are against the law, so people forget that. But much <v Speaker 1>more to your point, Curtis, the house shows, as you've <v Speaker 1>heard me talk about at this point, I love them. <v Speaker 1>They are a great They're a great thing to bring back. <v Speaker 1>They are one of the missing pieces of pro wrestling. <v Speaker 1>They are the cornerstone there. It's the fabric of what <v Speaker 1>made pro wrestling great. It's that intimate environment that they're <v Speaker 1>bringing back, at least in the short term. I know <v Speaker 1>there was only ten events they're bringing back in the <v Speaker 1>summer that are non televised, and I think it's an experiment. <v Speaker 1>It's a trial period, I think for them, and if <v Speaker 1>it's successful, I think that they will bring it back <v Speaker 1>on a larger scale. So it's a really paramount that <v Speaker 1>people go to these events. If you like wrestling, of course, <v Speaker 1>and enjoy yourself, bring your family. They are going to <v Speaker 1>be more affordable. It allows the wrestlers to have more <v Speaker 1>time in the ring, work things out before they go <v Speaker 1>to live TV, try new things for them at totally <v Speaker 1>risk free. And I don't want to hear what. People <v Speaker 1>bring their cameras and iPhones and they can record them, <v Speaker 1>and I'd say to that, and I put this video <v Speaker 1>out last night, which by the way, you can go <v Speaker 1>watch on Patreon. Put a video out about the house <v Speaker 1>shows and how I think there's such a great thing <v Speaker 1>to bring back. So credit to TKO for at least <v Speaker 1>trying it and probably begrudgingly because they don't want to <v Speaker 1>be known as a wrestling company. But I think that <v Speaker 1>the wrestlers get more reps. It allows people to remember <v Speaker 1>what wrestling can be like when it's just about wrestling. <v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of hokey bullshit that happens. There's <v Speaker 1>no backstage segments. It's just you and an intimate environment <v Speaker 1>with a much more affordable ticket for you or friends <v Speaker 1>and family that you can bring less people. You're not <v Speaker 1>going to have a soul out arena. Most likely. It's <v Speaker 1>just more fun. If you just like pro wrestling, that's it. <v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a great time. I think there's a <v Speaker 1>lot about that that that's good, and especially for the wrestlers. <v Speaker 1>I know that it's like, oh, they're going to have <v Speaker 1>more dates. Yeah, okay, well guess what you got to <v Speaker 1>earn your paycheck? I mean, and it's a time for <v Speaker 1>you to try out things that may or may not <v Speaker 1>work on live TV. There's no substitute for being in <v Speaker 1>front of a live audience. I know that in today's <v Speaker 1>TKO and a lot of other corporate spaces, everything's about <v Speaker 1>work life balance, work life balance, and I'm a big <v Speaker 1>fan of that. I'm not saying I'm not. I'm a <v Speaker 1>huge fan of that. There shouldn't. You should have much <v Speaker 1>more balance on your life than work. But ten dates <v Speaker 1>out of the year ain't going to kill you. So far, <v Speaker 1>it's not going to kill you. Not everybody's going to <v Speaker 1>be a part of the card. It's a usually a <v Speaker 1>shorter show. It's a good place to go and play <v Speaker 1>in the sandbox and have no issues. And as I <v Speaker 1>said with the iPhone thing, I don't think I finished <v Speaker 1>my thought on that. If someone records you doing something <v Speaker 1>stupid and it doesn't work, and the crowd doesn't react, <v Speaker 1>and someone records it and posts it online, and you know, <v Speaker 1>you may have somebody say, oh my god, well what <v Speaker 1>if that happens? Well what if it does good? I <v Speaker 1>would say, great, great, do something stupid that doesn't work <v Speaker 1>as a wrestler, and then you know what, you get <v Speaker 1>free promotion by fans who post it online that may <v Speaker 1>end up actually working. When things hit the internet. You <v Speaker 1>never know what's going to catch fire, and what thing <v Speaker 1>you did that you didn't think would catch suddenly is <v Speaker 1>a big thing and you're making a bunch of money <v Speaker 1>off t shirts on it. You never know, You never <v Speaker 1>know what could could come out of that. So I <v Speaker 1>don't want to hear that. Well, it's non televised, but <v Speaker 1>everybody has a phone. Great, that's potentially five thousand people <v Speaker 1>in an arena that could be your free marketing tools. Perfect. <v Speaker 1>Who cares? That's great news. Everybody's got an outlet now <v Speaker 1>on a platform to showcase you, even if it's in <v Speaker 1>a negative light, if you're trying to get some attention <v Speaker 1>and try something that there couldn't be anything better. Who cares? Good. <v Speaker 1>So I'm a big fan of the house shows returning. <v Speaker 1>I think it's a massive positive for everyone involved, and <v Speaker 1>I think it ultimately would be another revenue source for TKO, <v Speaker 1>And I know it won't be their main one by <v Speaker 1>it any stretch of the imagination. It'll be pe nuts <v Speaker 1>when it comes to how much money they're making on <v Speaker 1>house shows comparatively to ples and the streaming rights and <v Speaker 1>all the rest of it. It's peanuts, but it's still <v Speaker 1>a little bit more money. If they're all about maximizing <v Speaker 1>their money. There you go. It's great for the wrestler's <v Speaker 1>great for the fans. There are no losers in this. <v Speaker 1>Nobody loses. I don't know a single party in this <v Speaker 1>New Venture or this Resurrection House Shows that is going <v Speaker 1>to be negatively affected by it. I don't know anyone. <v Speaker 1>I don't know any party, TKO, WWE, Creative, you know, <v Speaker 1>Creative should be great with really happy about this, because <v Speaker 1>if there's something that they're like, hey, we don't want <v Speaker 1>to put this on air, we don't know if it's <v Speaker 1>gonna work. Why don't you go out and try this <v Speaker 1>see what the reaction is from fans. It is a <v Speaker 1>perfect test environment. It's a perfect test environment for Creative <v Speaker 1>to try something that they can then maybe bring on air, <v Speaker 1>to the to Raw or SmackDown or NXT. There is <v Speaker 1>absolutely no no negative to this. The only potential loss <v Speaker 1>here is if it's a total flop ticket sales or <v Speaker 1>dog shit and they pull the House shows. That's the <v Speaker 1>only thing that could happen. That's the worst case scenario. <v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's going to happen. I don't <v Speaker 1>I don't think the arenas are going to be sold out. <v Speaker 1>I'm a realist. I think it'll be mid range. Some <v Speaker 1>will be lightly attended while others may be more heavily attended, <v Speaker 1>depending on what city you're in. But as it's great, <v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it, and it doesn't it <v Speaker 1>allows more people to go to more shows because you <v Speaker 1>don't have to wait for just a televised event to <v Speaker 1>pass by your city, which for most people doesn't happen often. <v Speaker 1>So all right, I am exhausted from this show, although <v Speaker 1>I'm kind of charged up. I may end up doing <v Speaker 1>another video tonight. I don't know. I'm feeling a little <v Speaker 1>bit amped up. But thank you everybody for listening. I <v Speaker 1>know that I do rant a lot. It's my style. <v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sit here and give you a <v Speaker 1>rosy picture for things that are just glaringly like horrendous. <v Speaker 1>And yes, I'm going to continue to watch. But just <v Speaker 1>because I watch something and critique it doesn't mean I <v Speaker 1>hate it. I love the nature of what pro wrestling is, <v Speaker 1>but when I see it being mutilated into this blob <v Speaker 1>of just just an unrecognizable pro wrestling quote unquote presentation, <v Speaker 1>I critique it and despise it, and we'll call it <v Speaker 1>out because I know how great it can be. That's <v Speaker 1>why I do it, and that's why when you hear <v Speaker 1>maybe you're running across the same ISSH issue. If you <v Speaker 1>have a podcast or whatever, or just a Twitter account <v Speaker 1>X account and you're critiquing it, and then you know <v Speaker 1>some people comment like, oh well why even watch it? <v Speaker 1>Then well, again, if you're going to use that logic <v Speaker 1>anywhere else on TV shows or movies or any form <v Speaker 1>of sports or entertainment, you would that doesn't hold water <v Speaker 1>because it doesn't mean that you don't like it. It <v Speaker 1>means that you don't you don't like the direction it's <v Speaker 1>going because you know how great that form of entertainment <v Speaker 1>can be. When people really hate something in terms of <v Speaker 1>just consuming any kind of content consumption, they don't really <v Speaker 1>comment on it. Because when you hate something, you want <v Speaker 1>it out of your life. You don't even want to <v Speaker 1>spend any of your time on it. Most people won't <v Speaker 1>comment on things they actually hate, you know, So continue <v Speaker 1>to critique WWE or TKO, but also give them praise <v Speaker 1>where it's due. And this is a positive for all <v Speaker 1>the bullshit I give TKO, I got to give them <v Speaker 1>credit for bringing back, at least in the short term, <v Speaker 1>for a small number ten shows. I give them credit <v Speaker 1>for bringing back house shows. I do because it's a <v Speaker 1>positive for everybody. All Right, that'll do it for me. <v Speaker 1>I'll be back Sunday, yes, Sunday for the weekend review, <v Speaker 1>big show, the biggest one of the week of the week. <v Speaker 1>Every week, we also have the SmackDown review by Amanda. <v Speaker 1>Last week she ran it some technical issues, her internet <v Speaker 1>went out, and she'll be back this week with her <v Speaker 1>SmackDown review, so no worries there. And we'll be running <v Speaker 1>right to Saturday Night's main event next Saturday Night, so <v Speaker 1>that's gonna be very exciting. I'm sure. I say that <v Speaker 1>kind of halfheartedly. If you want to go add free <v Speaker 1>Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast. You can also follow <v Speaker 1>me on x at Wrestling, Underscore Audio or on TikTok Instagram, <v Speaker 1>all the rest of it. Everybody, enjoy your weekends, keep <v Speaker 1>an eye out for a video or two. I'm sure <v Speaker 1>that there will be one, and take care. <v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to <v Speaker 2>subscribe on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss <v Speaker 2>a show or head to wwepodcast dot com and for <v Speaker 2>all of these shows, add free head over to Patreon <v Speaker 2>dot com Slash WWE Podcast. Until then, we'll see you <v Speaker 2>next time.
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