"Pee-Wee's Big Adventure" (1985) vs. "UHF" (1989): Part 1

<v Speaker 1>He's Disney John and he's Dayton, and we're from the
<v Speaker 1>Docking Base seventy seven podcast.
<v Speaker 2>Friendly Nerds discussing what they're listening to, watching and reading.
<v Speaker 3>But we're not here to talk about us. Oh heck, now,
<v Speaker 3>we're here to talk about our friends, Jason.
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, today the guys are diving into two of the
<v Speaker 1>most gloriously oddball comedies. The nineteen eighties ever gave.
<v Speaker 2>Us Tim Burton's Pee Wee's Big Adventure and Weird Owl's UACHEF.
<v Speaker 2>One's about a man and his beloved bicycle, and the.
<v Speaker 1>Other is about a man and his beloved UHF station,
<v Speaker 1>which is basically the same thing, right.
<v Speaker 2>Well, except one gave us Lark smart and the other
<v Speaker 2>gave us Gandhi with a machine gun.
<v Speaker 1>One taught us how not to chain up your bike.
<v Speaker 2>And the other taught us that, yes, you really can
<v Speaker 2>open a store that sells only spatulis.
<v Speaker 1>So put on your red bow tie court grab a
<v Speaker 1>twinky Wiener sandwich, because Pee Wee and Weird Al are
<v Speaker 1>about to get weird. Wait, surely you can't be serious.
<v Speaker 2>I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, boys and girls, Today's secret word is weird. All right,
<v Speaker 3>we are here to talk about a couple of weird movies.
<v Speaker 3>We have got two incredible icons of the eighties who
<v Speaker 3>are famous for being quirky and different and changing the
<v Speaker 3>way that we view things. We're here today to talk
<v Speaker 3>about pee Wee Herman's Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yes, and
<v Speaker 3>we're here today to talk about weird Al Yankovic's uh F. Yes. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna have to call him Al or we're going
<v Speaker 3>to be screaming the whole show. That's right, that's right.
<v Speaker 3>We are comparing these two movies. Pee Wee's Big Adventure
<v Speaker 3>came out in nineteen eighty five. UHF came out in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty nine. Both of them are cult classics. One
<v Speaker 3>of them did well in the and one of them
<v Speaker 3>did not. And we're gonna kind of explain why and
<v Speaker 3>just a bit. But this is just gonna be a
<v Speaker 3>fun little ride. I talked to Jason. He's been bugging
<v Speaker 3>me to do Pee Wee's Big Adventure four years now.
<v Speaker 3>I have, and I never I had never seen the
<v Speaker 3>movie all the way through. It's seen bits and pieces
<v Speaker 3>of it. I remember seeing Pee Wee's Playhouse a bit
<v Speaker 3>when I was young. I remember seeing Peewee at the
<v Speaker 3>Big Top. Is that what it was called? Peewee Big Top? Peewee,
<v Speaker 3>that's it. I saw that one in the theater. Thought
<v Speaker 3>it was great. Apparently I was one of the few
<v Speaker 3>people who thought it was great.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did not do well. But I got to finally
<v Speaker 3>watch it all the way through for the first time.
<v Speaker 3>You kind of dragged me kicking and screaming so anxious
<v Speaker 3>to hear what you think. I'm excited to talk about it.
<v Speaker 3>I had a good time to you know, no spoiler,
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I had a good time watching this movie,
<v Speaker 3>even though I had a lot of reservations about watching it.
<v Speaker 3>And we're talking about UHF, which I listened to our
<v Speaker 3>weird episode which came out back in twenty twenty too,
<v Speaker 3>almost this time back then, and we had talked about that.
<v Speaker 3>We had bumped UHF to cover that movie, the biopic
<v Speaker 3>starring Daniel Radcliffe. It was interesting, you know, it's three
<v Speaker 3>years ago and we have talked about doing UHF every
<v Speaker 3>single year since then, and then finally it just it
<v Speaker 3>dawned on us as we were trying to figure out
<v Speaker 3>what to compare Pee Wee's Big Adventure to UHF was
<v Speaker 3>the obvious choice. Yeah, it was.
<v Speaker 4>So for the longest time, I've had kind of a
<v Speaker 4>special connection with UHF because it was filmed in my hometown.
<v Speaker 4>The Outsiders was filmed in my hometown.
<v Speaker 3>But I was a little kid. I was like nine, right.
<v Speaker 4>So I couldn't have gone anywhere, you know, But UHF.
<v Speaker 4>I remember on the local radio station the guys saying, Hey,
<v Speaker 4>they're shooting a scene at sixty first in Peoria today.
<v Speaker 4>They need extras. It's weird Al. Everybody, come down. You
<v Speaker 4>want to be in a movie, come on down. And
<v Speaker 4>next song on the countdown is Sweets Out of Mine.
<v Speaker 4>So that was summer of nineteen eighty eight. Yeah, so
<v Speaker 4>weird Al was in town. I knew where he was staying,
<v Speaker 4>like the place, you know, the Kingsington Mall allowed him
<v Speaker 4>to It was a hotel connected to a mall, so
<v Speaker 4>you could stay and shoot kind of all in the
<v Speaker 4>same spot.
<v Speaker 3>All right.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then just a few weeks ago, you and
<v Speaker 4>I took a day trip to Tulsa made a video
<v Speaker 4>with all the UHF locations we could find, plus a
<v Speaker 4>few extras. Yeah, go to our YouTube page, check that out.
<v Speaker 3>It's really cool. It's very fun. We had a great time.
<v Speaker 4>We had a great time doing that, and then little
<v Speaker 4>did we know, but weird out was playing.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he was playing at the.
<v Speaker 4>Brady Theater like a couple of days after we were there.
<v Speaker 3>Which is across the street from Cooney's Karate School. So
<v Speaker 3>you gotta gotta go check out that video to find that.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was it was serendipitous. We just happened
<v Speaker 3>to We were like, oh, let's go shoot something at
<v Speaker 3>the Brady Theater and there we saw weird Awl's name
<v Speaker 3>as the only name on the marquee. It was just
<v Speaker 3>pretty spectacular.
<v Speaker 4>It meant to be Cooney's Karate School and the Brady
<v Speaker 4>Theater share a parking lot.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy. So all right, to get.
<v Speaker 4>Us started, I guess we got to kick this thing
<v Speaker 4>off with Peb's Big Adventure because that's the first Movie's a.
<v Speaker 2>Lot of things about me.
<v Speaker 3>You don't know anything about that.
<v Speaker 1>Things he wouldn't understand, things he couldn't understand, things you
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't understand.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so obviously we'll start with Paul Rubins case you
<v Speaker 3>don't know, that's the actor who plays Pee Wee Herman,
<v Speaker 3>which I didn't know for the longest time, like until
<v Speaker 3>he got arrested. I think was when I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>his name is not pee Wee Herman, right, which was
<v Speaker 3>kind of by design, like he had specifically he had
<v Speaker 3>decided this was going to be he was going to
<v Speaker 3>keep this as his public persona. Just he was doing
<v Speaker 3>multiple interviews because the character is really what made him famous,
<v Speaker 3>and he was doing interviews where he would have to
<v Speaker 3>be both people, and finally he's just decided, I'm just
<v Speaker 3>not going to be Paul anymore for interviews for the
<v Speaker 3>public life, I'm only going to be pee Wee. So
<v Speaker 3>where did pee Wee begin?
<v Speaker 4>Well, he was born and kind of raised early in
<v Speaker 4>New York, So while he was still a kid, his
<v Speaker 4>family picked up and moved to Sarasota, Florida, Yes, which
<v Speaker 4>that was actually the off season home of Ringling Brothers
<v Speaker 4>and Barnum and Bailey Circus. And so he got to
<v Speaker 4>go to like circus camp and started becoming like a performer,
<v Speaker 4>almost took an interest in becoming maybe a circus performer.
<v Speaker 4>Well after he graduated from high school, he had an
<v Speaker 4>interest in wanted to discover the artistic side of himself,
<v Speaker 4>and so he moved out to California and enrolled in
<v Speaker 4>cal Arts and in his cow Arts class was David Hasselhoff.
<v Speaker 3>David Hasselhoff of night Rider fame and.
<v Speaker 4>And like Europe's greatest singer of.
<v Speaker 3>All time off yeah huff.
<v Speaker 4>And then also Katie Segal was in his class. She
<v Speaker 4>goes plays Peg Bundy and so he starts to kind
<v Speaker 4>of grow and expand as a performer there at cal Arts.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's he was wanting to be a serious actor.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he did serious stuff at that time, and
<v Speaker 3>I think it was just he was very popular at
<v Speaker 3>the school and a school full of artists. He was
<v Speaker 3>still kind of the guy that everybody admired, and she
<v Speaker 3>stood out. Yeah, he stood out. So ultimately he after
<v Speaker 3>college he joins the Groundlings, that's.
<v Speaker 4>Right, and the Groundlings are kind of a improv group.
<v Speaker 4>It was kind of a class. It wasn't really a
<v Speaker 4>thing until people started to become attracted to him and
<v Speaker 4>wanted to get involved. And then they're like, well, we
<v Speaker 4>need to like come up with a name for ourselves
<v Speaker 4>and put on shows and so yeah, from the Groundlings,
<v Speaker 4>like Edie McClure, the secretary from Ferris Bueler's day Off.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, freaking hilarious. Yep.
<v Speaker 4>She works the counter and planes trains and auomobiles.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and so she's in it. And of course you
<v Speaker 3>have Paul Rubins, Lorain Newman, Lorain Newman, one of.
<v Speaker 4>The earliest members of Saturday Night Live. Yep, Cassandra Sandra Peterson,
<v Speaker 4>there you go, who played Elvira, Mistress of the Dark.
<v Speaker 3>Yes. So Cassandra Peterson talks about when she first came
<v Speaker 3>to the school, she was still just barely developing the
<v Speaker 3>Elvira character, and she saw two guys talking to each
<v Speaker 3>other and it was Paul Rubins and John Paragne and said,
<v Speaker 3>I immediately said, I'm going to make friends with those guys.
<v Speaker 3>Like they just had such a great chemistry. She could
<v Speaker 3>just tell that they were the guys that she wanted.
<v Speaker 3>And she was like, it's a little Stockerish, but I
<v Speaker 3>wanted to be with those guys because they knew they
<v Speaker 3>had such great ability to improv and riff off of
<v Speaker 3>each other. Now, if you don't know who John Peregrine is,
<v Speaker 3>you might know him as John by the Genie in
<v Speaker 3>Peewe's Playhouse. A High mech A, Heidi ho Now everyone
<v Speaker 3>at home, Mecca Leca High, Mecca, Heiney Ho, Mecha Heney Ho.
<v Speaker 3>And as a connection to these two movies, he is
<v Speaker 3>Fletcher Junior. He's the I'm sorry, did I do that?
<v Speaker 3>You blew my mind when you send that to me
<v Speaker 3>this week. Yes. So John Peregrine, who doesn't have a
<v Speaker 3>whole lot of other stuff to his to his name,
<v Speaker 3>is a major player in both of these, both of
<v Speaker 3>these scenarios. Right, he's not in I don't think he's
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's in pee Wee's Adventure? What is
<v Speaker 3>he where?
<v Speaker 4>He is one of the guys on the Warner Brothers lot.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's a very small, small part like breeze by
<v Speaker 3>a part, but a major player for not only pee
<v Speaker 3>Wee's Playhouse later on, but his stage show, the pee
<v Speaker 3>Wee Herman Show, which we'll get to here in just
<v Speaker 3>a second. Right, that's right, that's right. So at the
<v Speaker 3>ground links, Paul Rubin realizes he's like, you know what,
<v Speaker 3>I'm funny, Like I'm good at being funny. I don't
<v Speaker 3>know why I'm so focused on all this serious work.
<v Speaker 3>When I enjoy being funny, I get laughs. And so
<v Speaker 3>this may be my road to success. And so he
<v Speaker 3>develops this incredible character that is a lounge singing Native America.
<v Speaker 3>You know what.
<v Speaker 4>I saw him talk about this. He said it wasn't
<v Speaker 4>just racist, it was blatantly incredibly racist. And he's like,
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really realize that it's.
<v Speaker 3>A different time. And he's late seventies, early eighties. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>he's watching The Village People, and.
<v Speaker 4>He thought this is my ticket out, Like this is
<v Speaker 4>the character that I've I'm gonna be make famous with. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, thank god that didn't come true because
<v Speaker 4>it was so racist. But you know, he created like
<v Speaker 4>dozens of.
<v Speaker 3>Characters, dozens, and anybody else who's in these comedy troops
<v Speaker 3>who has these dozens of characters. He goes to audition
<v Speaker 3>for Saturday Night Live and he thinks he's got it,
<v Speaker 3>Like he's at the top of his game, he's got
<v Speaker 3>all these characters. He's raring to go, and.
<v Speaker 4>Everybody else is telling him you're shoeing, you got it.
<v Speaker 3>And he gets there and he's watching this guy perform
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, who is this guy? And they're like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>that's one of the producer's best friends. And he's like,
<v Speaker 3>oh no. He's like he's the nerdy guy. Like there
<v Speaker 3>you have a select group of people in Saturday Night Live.
<v Speaker 3>One of them is going to be the nerdy guy.
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be him. And that guy was Gilbert Godfrey
<v Speaker 3>Gilbert And so he was right. He did not get
<v Speaker 3>cast in Saturday Night Live, and he thought his career
<v Speaker 3>was over. He thought it was done, and then inspiration strikes. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So he goes back home and one of the things
<v Speaker 4>that he learned from Saturday Night Live he was so
<v Speaker 4>desperate to get in that he didn't want to be
<v Speaker 4>dependent on anybody else. And so he thought, you know what,
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to take control of myself and control what
<v Speaker 4>I can control. And so he had a character that
<v Speaker 4>he had been developing that seemed to be received well
<v Speaker 4>by audiences, and so he thought, I'm going with this character.
<v Speaker 3>Right, And so this character is pee Wee Hermer, we Hearman, good.
<v Speaker 5>Murder, baby Boy, mister breakfast?
<v Speaker 2>Can I te cereal?
<v Speaker 5>Okay?
<v Speaker 3>A pity the poor fool, don't keep my cereal. So
<v Speaker 3>he develops this entire basically skit show, a stage production
<v Speaker 3>called the Pee Wee Herman Show. And John Peregrin is
<v Speaker 3>a factor in that, like they're literally driving around. He's like,
<v Speaker 3>I want to be a genie. They're driving around and
<v Speaker 3>they see a sign. I think it was like a
<v Speaker 3>grocery store sign. But Jombie is it's Johnby's place, and
<v Speaker 3>he says that's They're both like, that's the name. That's
<v Speaker 3>gotta be John By, the genie, right, the genie. And
<v Speaker 3>then of course the other guy that's helping out is
<v Speaker 3>Phil Hartman.
<v Speaker 4>So Phil Hartman was at first kind of too shy
<v Speaker 4>to join the Groundlings.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a very straight laced guy. Is in advertising,
<v Speaker 3>I think, and just he made like album covers. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he was designing. Yeah, that's right, designing graphic art for
<v Speaker 3>album covers. That's right.
<v Speaker 4>But he was drawn to them, so he kind of
<v Speaker 4>hung around, but he didn't feel good enough to get
<v Speaker 4>involved until he did.
<v Speaker 3>Until he did, and then he and.
<v Speaker 4>Paul Rubens hit it off and became really good friends.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he's he was a major writer, not only
<v Speaker 3>for the Pee Wee Herman Show. He performed in the
<v Speaker 3>Pee Wee Herman Show. But what happens with the Pee
<v Speaker 3>Wee Herman Show is that they start in the small
<v Speaker 3>theater in the Groundlings Theater, less than one hundred people,
<v Speaker 3>like ninety nine people. But they sell out, and then
<v Speaker 3>they keep selling out and they're like, Okay, we got
<v Speaker 3>to go to a bigger place than they do, The Roxy,
<v Speaker 3>the Roxy, and they sell out the Roxy. And one
<v Speaker 3>of the people that sees them perform at the Roxy,
<v Speaker 3>it's the Martin, Steve freaking Martin, and Steve Martin is like,
<v Speaker 3>here's my manager. You need to talk to him. And
<v Speaker 3>this guy had a protege. That guy became Pee Herman's manager.
<v Speaker 3>He came in like he knew what he was doing,
<v Speaker 3>and he said, here's what we're going to do. We're
<v Speaker 3>going to take this stage show and we are going
<v Speaker 3>to make it a nationwide tour. And what we want
<v Speaker 3>to do is develop enough of a following that by
<v Speaker 3>the time we're done, that you are such a well
<v Speaker 3>known name and such a draw, such an influencer at
<v Speaker 3>the time before that term really existed, that the studios
<v Speaker 3>won't have any way to say no to developing a
<v Speaker 3>full movie for you, right, And that's exactly what they did.
<v Speaker 3>And they they sell out Carnegie Hall, they sell out
<v Speaker 3>every like for twenty two shows, They sell out the theaters,
<v Speaker 3>and they make their way all the way back to
<v Speaker 3>la and at their final show, it is full of
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood producers and he gets a standing ovation at the
<v Speaker 3>end of the show that goes on and on and on,
<v Speaker 3>and their plan worked perfectly because Warner Brothers said, we
<v Speaker 3>want to make your movie. It's incredible.
<v Speaker 4>So I was you in nineteen eighty one HBO, early HBO,
<v Speaker 4>when they had about five things to show.
<v Speaker 3>They broadcast the when it was still called Home Box Office.
<v Speaker 4>So me and I spent the night with some buddies
<v Speaker 4>and we watched the Pee Wee Herman Show, which at
<v Speaker 4>that time was not directed at kids.
<v Speaker 3>It was adult humor framed in.
<v Speaker 4>It like a kid's show, and we thought it was
<v Speaker 4>the freak and hilarious. It was the funniest thing we'd
<v Speaker 4>ever seen.
<v Speaker 3>What is this mermaid missing?
<v Speaker 4>But you know he he hypnotizes a woman and he
<v Speaker 4>makes her take off our clothes on stage and we thought,
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, this is the pinnacle of humor. Of course,
<v Speaker 4>that woman was a part of the Groundlings as well,
<v Speaker 4>so that.
<v Speaker 3>HBO show was huge.
<v Speaker 4>Party Colner Artie Colner directed that. That's right, and he
<v Speaker 4>went on to do hard knocks in the White Video Guy. Yeah, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>but in the early eighties, he would go on the
<v Speaker 4>David Letterman Show and like kind of the precursor to
<v Speaker 4>the Larry King Show.
<v Speaker 3>There was a show on CNN that came on late.
<v Speaker 4>At night, and he would go on and be interviewed
<v Speaker 4>not as Paul Rubins but as pee Wee Herman. And
<v Speaker 4>he would also come on David Letterman. And he said
<v Speaker 4>he and Dave kind of hit it off that out
<v Speaker 4>of chemistry.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Dave was a good straight man for his goofy
<v Speaker 3>pee Wee.
<v Speaker 4>Herman, and he was a regular who came on like
<v Speaker 4>every two months or so, and so he had kind
<v Speaker 4>of built this thing with Letterman and his show, and
<v Speaker 4>Warner Brothers is like, yes, we want to make a
<v Speaker 4>movie with you.
<v Speaker 3>Right, So he and Phil Hartman and a guy named
<v Speaker 3>Michael Farhall get together and they start working on the
<v Speaker 3>script and they've got They've got sid Field's screenplay. You know,
<v Speaker 3>the boy. This is the guidebook on how to write
<v Speaker 3>a screenplay. I read it whenever I was in college
<v Speaker 3>doing my screenwriting class. It's I mean, it's here's how
<v Speaker 3>you do it. This is the way you write. And
<v Speaker 3>they followed it letter for letter, note for note. But
<v Speaker 3>what they were trying to do. Initially when they were
<v Speaker 3>writing it was they were trying to Paul Rubens's favorite
<v Speaker 3>movie was Pollyanna with Hayley Mills in it, and he
<v Speaker 3>was trying to write Pee Wee as Paullyanna. And they're
<v Speaker 3>on the Warner Brothers a lot and he notices, like
<v Speaker 3>everybody on the lot is getting around on bicycles, like
<v Speaker 3>they you know, there are a few people who've got
<v Speaker 3>the golf cards, but really no cars are driving around.
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's driving around bicycles. And he keeps going like, what
<v Speaker 3>do I gotta do to get a bicycle? Why can't
<v Speaker 3>I have a bicycle? Right? And so after weeks of this,
<v Speaker 3>he shows up and as a gift, there is just
<v Speaker 3>this gift waiting for him of this vintage swim like
<v Speaker 3>nineteen forties fifties model bicycle, red and white, beautiful, and
<v Speaker 3>he says, in that moment, I realized this is what
<v Speaker 3>the script has to become. We're riding the wrong movie.
<v Speaker 3>We're riding the wrong movie. They go scrap everything that
<v Speaker 3>they've written so far and they make it a His
<v Speaker 3>big adventure is his bike gets stolen and he has
<v Speaker 3>to go get it back Peewee.
<v Speaker 4>Loves his bike more than he loves life itself and
<v Speaker 4>it gets stolen.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's it's kind of loosely based on The
<v Speaker 3>Bicycle Thieves, which I think is nineteen forties forty eight
<v Speaker 3>something like that. So then they they've got it, and
<v Speaker 3>they've got their script and they you were telling me
<v Speaker 3>that you paused it, like they've got there, they've got
<v Speaker 3>their corkboard where they're putting the post it notes up,
<v Speaker 3>and you said that it was it was like, how
<v Speaker 3>did it go?
<v Speaker 4>So I'm looking at this picture of Phil Hartman, Michael Varhall,
<v Speaker 4>and Paul Rubens in there at the writing place, and
<v Speaker 4>behind them are a bunch of post it notes, and
<v Speaker 4>so I freeze and I look and I zoom in.
<v Speaker 4>One post it note says ghost Trucker, one note says Alamo,
<v Speaker 4>uh huh, one note says Rodeo Cowboy.
<v Speaker 3>And it was just these ideas. Yeah, well those.
<v Speaker 4>Ideas are weaved through the entire movie, which makes it
<v Speaker 4>freaking hilarious.
<v Speaker 3>It's a simple plot structure that allows them to weave
<v Speaker 3>together these vignettes, very much like National Lampoon Vacation, where
<v Speaker 3>you know you've got a road trip and you can
<v Speaker 3>just these things happen along the way. It's a very
<v Speaker 3>easy way to string these things together, which will come
<v Speaker 3>up when we talk about UHF as well, of course,
<v Speaker 3>no doubt. And so they've got their script and they're
<v Speaker 3>ready to find a director and Paul Rubins makes a
<v Speaker 3>list of one hundred and fifty director Like he's like thinking,
<v Speaker 3>thinking of every movie that I love, I'm going to
<v Speaker 3>you know, if I was anything I liked about the
<v Speaker 3>movie at all, I'm putting that director's name down. And
<v Speaker 3>so he gives the studio his list of one hundred
<v Speaker 3>and fifty directors and they come back with one that's
<v Speaker 3>not on the list. And he looks at this and
<v Speaker 3>he's like, what has this guy done? And he looks
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, this is the wrong guy. This is
<v Speaker 3>not the right guy. And so he comes to him.
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm not going to do it with this guy.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I sent you a video clip this week. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>he dug his heels in on this. But keep in
<v Speaker 4>mind this is he's not a movie star yet.
<v Speaker 3>Neither was Sylvester Stallone. That's right.
<v Speaker 4>His inspiration was Sylvester Stallone and the way he handled
<v Speaker 4>the Rocky franchise. So if you'll remember Sylvester Stallone, which
<v Speaker 4>we've never covered Rocky or any of the Rocky movies, which.
<v Speaker 3>We will do. Yeah, there's no question we will.
<v Speaker 4>So Sylvester Stallone had written the script for Rocky and
<v Speaker 4>when he took it to the studio, they said, great,
<v Speaker 4>we want to make this movie. Maybe we could have
<v Speaker 4>Chuck Norris be the boxer or whatever. He's like, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be the actor. And they said no,
<v Speaker 4>we got to get somebody else. And he said, well
<v Speaker 4>then it's not for sale basically right, and he decided
<v Speaker 4>this is the criteria. I'm the star if you want
<v Speaker 4>to make my movie. And he went all in on himself, right,
<v Speaker 4>And so Paul Rubins was like, well, Sylvester Stallone did it,
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to do that as well.
<v Speaker 3>And he got some advice.
<v Speaker 4>They're like, listen, the winds of change happened fast around here.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people in the studio are gone. You're going to
<v Speaker 3>get You're going to not have your picture anymore.
<v Speaker 4>And he said, I'm willing to tough it out.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the way that they put it to him
<v Speaker 3>was if you can find a director by whatever, it
<v Speaker 3>was one week. Yeah, one week. He got one week
<v Speaker 3>to find a director. They have to be approvable, affordable,
<v Speaker 3>and available. The three a's pretty pretty tough call, right,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you're in Hollywood and you're a good director,
<v Speaker 3>you're probably working right. And so he goes he's trying
<v Speaker 3>to find people. He's not having any luck, and he
<v Speaker 3>goes to a party that is being thrown by a
<v Speaker 3>friend of his who used to be a manager at
<v Speaker 3>a restaurant he worked at as a waiter or something,
<v Speaker 3>you know, just I mean, and he's just like, I
<v Speaker 3>can't find anybody. He's like, do you know any directors?
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, yes, I do. And he's like, oh who,
<v Speaker 3>and she's she says, there's this young guy. I think
<v Speaker 3>he works over at Warner Brothers actually, and he's made
<v Speaker 3>a couple of little short things. I think he'd be
<v Speaker 3>great for you. His name is Tim Burton. Pee. He's
<v Speaker 3>never seen this, never seen any of Tim Burton's work,
<v Speaker 3>but he looks and sees that Shelley Duvall is in
<v Speaker 3>this movie, this small movie that Tim has made called
<v Speaker 3>Franken Weeniye, and Shelley Duvall is a friend of his. Yes,
<v Speaker 3>and so he calls her and he says, can you
<v Speaker 3>tell me here's my situation, And she's like, oh, Paul,
<v Speaker 3>he's perfect. He is perfect for you. So he watches
<v Speaker 3>Frank and Weenie and he says, three scenes in he
<v Speaker 3>knows this is the perfect director for his movie. And
<v Speaker 3>as it turns out, he's approvable, he's available, and he's affordable,
<v Speaker 3>and he wants to do the movie too. Well, that's
<v Speaker 3>the thing.
<v Speaker 4>Once he said yeah, Tim Burton and a lot of
<v Speaker 4>people were like.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he turns down stuff all the time. He won't
<v Speaker 3>ever do it. Turned down everything. Yeah, he turned He
<v Speaker 3>had so many scripts coming to him and turning them
<v Speaker 3>all down, and when he saw this one, he said,
<v Speaker 3>this is the movie I want to make as my
<v Speaker 3>first real movie. You think about it.
<v Speaker 4>They're both quirky characters. Yeah, they're both ultra creative, very
<v Speaker 4>very kind of kindred spirits. That's right, they're weird. You know,
<v Speaker 4>you and I were talking before we started recording, kind
<v Speaker 4>of the third piece to the puzzle that may get
<v Speaker 4>overlooked but is also an outsider, a weirdo and ultra
<v Speaker 4>creative that contributed massively to the success of this movie
<v Speaker 4>and others.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is Danny Elfman? Absolutely? Yeah. So we we've talked
<v Speaker 3>before when we did our Man episode about how Tim
<v Speaker 3>Burton and Danny Elfman came together, and I talked about
<v Speaker 3>the move there. Danny Elfman had composed the score to
<v Speaker 3>only one movie before, and it was years before, and
<v Speaker 3>it was this Wingo Boingo movie like I think his
<v Speaker 3>brother might have directed it, maybe that's right, called The
<v Speaker 3>Forbidden Zone, and it's just so bizarre, like I looked
<v Speaker 3>at some of the pictures, just bizarre, beyond bizarre. And
<v Speaker 3>of course it was a favorite of Paul Rubin's, right, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and so he was like, oh, this is great. Now.
<v Speaker 3>They had originally approached the guy from Devo, that's right,
<v Speaker 3>the head guy of Devo. Yeah, was it Mark Mothers Baw?
<v Speaker 3>Is that right? That Mark Mother's Blaw. Yeah, And he
<v Speaker 3>couldn't do it, but he ends up composing the theme
<v Speaker 3>to the to the Playhoffs to Pee Wee's Playhoffs later on.
<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right. So they bring in Danny Elfman
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, it's this beautiful magic of match made and
<v Speaker 3>great script, great director, great composer and all on their
<v Speaker 3>Virgeon run if you will at a major motion picture.
<v Speaker 4>You know you mentioned it before. I want to kind
<v Speaker 4>of double down on what you said. Yeah, this script
<v Speaker 4>for Peeb's Big Adventure is studied at like like script
<v Speaker 4>writing classes.
<v Speaker 3>Really because do you know they followed the format, right,
<v Speaker 3>they followed.
<v Speaker 4>The formula exactly. So it's a ninety minute movie. The
<v Speaker 4>script is ninety pages long.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Act one is over on page thirty.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's when the bicycle gets stolen.
<v Speaker 4>And knitting and knitting and knitting.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jimmy, what is this two late?
<v Speaker 4>Chip looks like a pen exactly. I bought this pen
<v Speaker 4>one hour before my.
<v Speaker 5>Bike was stolen.
<v Speaker 3>Why what's the significance? I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>Act two is over on page sixty, and then the
<v Speaker 4>movie ends on page ninety resolution.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, here's the rest of the story. Right, No, this
<v Speaker 3>is this is perfect. You're gonna love this. Right. So,
<v Speaker 3>this budget on this movie was five five to six
<v Speaker 3>million dollars not much, not much. It's a low budget
<v Speaker 3>even you know in the eighties, that's a low budget movie, right. Yes,
<v Speaker 3>it grosses something like fifty million, so it's it's a
<v Speaker 3>phenomenal success for such a low sleeper unexpected, Like, yes,
<v Speaker 3>that's what they they were like, they had no anticipation
<v Speaker 3>that anybody would like this movie, and it's this huge,
<v Speaker 3>huge success. So that propels Peewee to have his own
<v Speaker 3>TV show, which is a great thing. It propels Danny
<v Speaker 3>Elfman to do another movie called Beetlejuice Justice Juice, and
<v Speaker 3>Tim Burton is directing that movie. I think, I said
<v Speaker 3>Danny Elfman first, those two guys together do Beetlejuice, and
<v Speaker 3>that Tim Burton showing that he can pull off two
<v Speaker 3>moved I just won, but pull off two successful movies.
<v Speaker 3>Then leads to in nineteen eighty eight, him being tapped
<v Speaker 3>to do Batman. Batman Now. Batman gets released on June
<v Speaker 3>twenty third, nineteen eighty nine, amongst a handful of other movies,
<v Speaker 3>including Indiana, Jones and The Last Crusade, Dead Poet Society.
<v Speaker 3>You Got More Fun, You got the list, gimme.
<v Speaker 4>So it is my belief that the summer of nineteen
<v Speaker 4>eighty nine is the greatest summer for movies in the eighties. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>I'm going all time because so listen to this. Starting
<v Speaker 4>in May, You've got Fright Night two, Roadhouse, Dead Poet Society,
<v Speaker 4>Star Trek five. Now keep in mind Some of these
<v Speaker 4>movies turn out good.
<v Speaker 3>Some of them didn't.
<v Speaker 4>But every week you're like, oh, Man Star Trek five
<v Speaker 4>is hitting the theaters, and after that Ghostbusters two is
<v Speaker 4>coming out, right yeah, And then Batman and Honey I
<v Speaker 4>Shrunk the Kids and do the Right Thing and Karate
<v Speaker 4>Kid three and Weekend at Bernie's and leave the Weapon
<v Speaker 4>two and Licensed to Kill and when Harry met Sally
<v Speaker 4>and Turner and Hooch, Parenthood, the Abyss Nightmare and Elm
<v Speaker 4>Street Part five, Uncle Buck. Week after week after week
<v Speaker 4>you have an incredible movie in nineteen eighty.
<v Speaker 3>Nine, named actors, named directors, Big time stuff going on.
<v Speaker 3>And then in July, just four weeks to the day
<v Speaker 3>after Batman is released, this little five million dollar movie
<v Speaker 3>called UHF gets released.
<v Speaker 4>And it gets buried by Rigs and Murta and Batman
<v Speaker 4>and Batman Batman, Tim Burton is burying UHF.
<v Speaker 3>That's true. So five million dollars budget, it's opening weekend,
<v Speaker 3>it does four something. It ultimately grosses a little bit
<v Speaker 3>more like they get it gets to six, right, but
<v Speaker 3>not a success, not a success, not a success at all.
<v Speaker 3>And it's only after people have kind of weeded through
<v Speaker 3>all of these huge monumental movies that have come out
<v Speaker 3>to really go, wait, this movie's actually good. It's like,
<v Speaker 3>this is a definitive cult classic. It did so poorly
<v Speaker 3>it went out of print, and yet even out of print,
<v Speaker 3>people obsess over this movie. So weird Al, I don't
<v Speaker 3>need to go to the whole history. And by the way,
<v Speaker 3>go check out our weird episode so she can get
<v Speaker 3>the full history, and I go into all kinds of
<v Speaker 3>detail about parodies and the inspiration for weird Out to
<v Speaker 3>do his parody songs. But to make the story short,
<v Speaker 3>weird Out he gets an accordion. His mom buys him
<v Speaker 3>an accordion from a door to door salesman when he's
<v Speaker 3>a little kid. She's like, well, this will make him popular.
<v Speaker 3>He learns how to play it. He goes on to
<v Speaker 3>become a DJ at his college, where he gets the
<v Speaker 3>where he gets his handle of weird Al Yankovic and
<v Speaker 3>then he's playing a lot of weird stuff that he's
<v Speaker 3>not really allowed to play and ultimately gets fired. But
<v Speaker 3>in the process of all of this, he meets a
<v Speaker 3>guy going you know, college to college who's got his
<v Speaker 3>own strange show called Doctor Demento, and so he meets
<v Speaker 3>to Doctor Demento. He's like, hey, you know, I love
<v Speaker 3>your stuff. They kind of form a little bit of
<v Speaker 3>a bond. And then a really popular song at the time,
<v Speaker 3>song that we've covered on our Patreon episode is called
<v Speaker 3>my Sharona.
<v Speaker 4>That's right, That's right, and he comes up with.
<v Speaker 3>My Bologna, My Bologna, and spoiler alert for the movie
<v Speaker 3>this is true. He records it inside of a bathroom
<v Speaker 3>to get the reverb effect right. He sends his tape
<v Speaker 3>to Doctor Demento. Doctor Demento plays it and it becomes
<v Speaker 3>a huge success. He ultimately then goes on to follow
<v Speaker 3>this up with I Love Rocky Road. Another one rides
<v Speaker 3>the bus a lot of fantastic parody songs, and his
<v Speaker 3>theme you know, he won't make a song. He won't
<v Speaker 3>make a parody of a song if the original artist
<v Speaker 3>says no. But he says, it doesn't hurt to ask, right,
<v Speaker 3>and Michael Jackson's beat it is at the top of
<v Speaker 3>the charts, and weird Ow comes up with an idea
<v Speaker 3>for a parody and it's like, there's no way. Michael Jackson, Well,
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't hurt to ask, and Michael Jackson says, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 3>and that's when weird Al moves from good to great.
<v Speaker 3>When Edit came out.
<v Speaker 4>I remember at the skating rink the people going bonkers
<v Speaker 4>when they'd played Weird Out Eat It.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And then as he grows as a comedian, his fun
<v Speaker 4>you know, his songs are super clever, they're funny. Plus
<v Speaker 4>he can sing, I mean, plus, you know, the music's
<v Speaker 4>good and stuff.
<v Speaker 3>The music is absolutely solid, yes, but he goes up
<v Speaker 3>a notch with the music videos right. And so he
<v Speaker 3>when he gets into this position of becoming famous for
<v Speaker 3>his parody songs, he needs video. MTV came out in
<v Speaker 3>eighty one, It's all happening at the same time, and
<v Speaker 3>so he needs videos for his stuff. And so who
<v Speaker 3>does he get to do it. He gets his to
<v Speaker 3>direct the videos, a guy named Jay Levy, and so
<v Speaker 3>Jay Levy creates these perfect parodies of the I Love
<v Speaker 3>rock and Roll video and Michael Jackson Beat It video.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you watch it, it's so well done,
<v Speaker 3>Like it's literally like they I can't imagine how they
<v Speaker 3>didn't go to the exact location, and maybe they did,
<v Speaker 3>maybe they went exactly where it had gotten filmed, but
<v Speaker 3>they produce it nearly frame for frame with comic elements throughout,
<v Speaker 3>and it's brilliantly done.
<v Speaker 4>I think they did with the Fat video. I think
<v Speaker 4>they went to the exact same spot where they filmed Bad.
<v Speaker 3>Sure, yes, you know, so Jay Levy is able to
<v Speaker 3>do with Fat what Martin Scorsese did with Bad, And
<v Speaker 3>that's that's genuinely impressive. Like I can't go out and
<v Speaker 3>recreate a Martin Scorsese video. That's that's suppressive stuff, right,
<v Speaker 3>And so they.
<v Speaker 4>For those of you who are forgotten that Martin Scorsese
<v Speaker 4>directed the Bad Video, go back to our very first episode.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah all right, so we don't know how long Jason
<v Speaker 3>was frozen and fray like mid sneezes. Sorry about that.
<v Speaker 3>We weren't watching the cameras anyway. So Jay Levy and
<v Speaker 3>weird Al have got have gotten together. They've made great music,
<v Speaker 3>they've made great videos. They come out with Weird Al
<v Speaker 3>in three D, which I had the tape I wore.
<v Speaker 4>The recovering Weird Al three D.
<v Speaker 3>I know, right, and it's so successful. They're like, what
<v Speaker 3>else can we do? And the idea comes up, well,
<v Speaker 3>what if we do a movie? And we just you know,
<v Speaker 3>we've got all these crazy ideas for these parodies. Let's
<v Speaker 3>let's figure out how to make this into a movie.
<v Speaker 4>So here's one of the interesting stories about this. Do
<v Speaker 4>you know who Gene Kirkwood is.
<v Speaker 3>Gene Kirkwood is the producer. He is a producer. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 3>give me more. So he produced the movie Rocky. Oh
<v Speaker 3>well that's something, right, Yeah, I'm speaking of spilled Sylvester Stallone.
<v Speaker 3>Right about knock a Home Run? Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Right, So, Jay Levy and weird Al have Richen in
<v Speaker 4>the script. They're passing it around Hollywood. It ends up
<v Speaker 4>in Gene Kirkwood's assistance hands. They read it, they think
<v Speaker 4>it's really funny. Yeah, they give it to This is
<v Speaker 4>the producer of Rocky. Hey, you're the producer of Rocky.
<v Speaker 4>How about a Weird Al movie?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't know how that works, but sure, I
<v Speaker 3>was gonna tell you this. So he made Rocky.
<v Speaker 4>He also made the popa Greenwich Village.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>He also made Get Rich or Die Trying.
<v Speaker 3>Remember the fifty cent movie? Okay.
<v Speaker 4>He also made a movie that we have talked about
<v Speaker 4>many times but have never seen, a Night in Heaven.
<v Speaker 3>Isn't this the Brian Adams. Bryan Adams made the song
<v Speaker 3>Heaven for this movie. Yes, and nobody knows of this movie.
<v Speaker 3>That's right. It's starring the guy from the Blue Lagoon. Right.
<v Speaker 4>Then it's about mail strippers, right, that's right.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how we haven't seen that one.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, right, So he produced all those movies.
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 4>He gets his hands on it and he's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>let's do this, you know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I mean serious, Well he had been he
<v Speaker 3>had been watching the videos, and he had already had
<v Speaker 3>an interest in like, Wiga, we can make this guy
<v Speaker 3>into a movie star.
<v Speaker 4>So serious producer says, let's make this guy movie star.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I've also got another name for you, okay, Gray Fredericson.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know this guy is. Yeah, we've talked about
<v Speaker 3>him a few times before. I think maybe just me
<v Speaker 3>and you. But he was a guy who he was
<v Speaker 3>involved in The Godfather, The Godfather too, The Apocalypse, now
<v Speaker 3>The Outsiders, every Francis Ford Coppola movie that he did
<v Speaker 3>in the first ten years of his career. Gray Fredrickson
<v Speaker 3>is a producer on those movies. Now, if you go
<v Speaker 3>back to our catalog, we have covered The Outsiders versus Rumblefish,
<v Speaker 3>both of them Francis Ford Coppola movies, both of them
<v Speaker 3>produced by Gray Fredrickson, and they were both filmed in Tulsa.
<v Speaker 3>That's right.
<v Speaker 4>So before we move on to Tulsa, if I say
<v Speaker 4>that UHF was produced by the same people who produced Rocky,
<v Speaker 4>The Godfather and Apocalypse, now I'm telling the truth.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true. Yeah exactly.
<v Speaker 4>So one of the things that they said to where
<v Speaker 4>to Al and Jay Levy say, hey, we want to
<v Speaker 4>make this movie with you, but you got to make
<v Speaker 4>it for five million dollars or less.
<v Speaker 3>Can you pull that off?
<v Speaker 4>So all of a sudden they're like, well, we got
<v Speaker 4>to we gotta do this on the cheap. Yeah, so
<v Speaker 4>where can we film this.
<v Speaker 3>Movie on the cheap? La is not cheap? You know
<v Speaker 3>what is cheap? Oklahoma? Also Oklahoma?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so Grey Friderson, who based out of Oklahoma City.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, really, yeah, I think you would tell you. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 3>that's right, that's right. I remember that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So he says, hey, guys, you know we did The
<v Speaker 4>Outsiders and Rumblefish and Tulsa.
<v Speaker 3>People were great. Everybody's excited. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people happy to have you there. You have everything
<v Speaker 4>you need to shoot a movie there. Yeah, what do
<v Speaker 4>you think so that they're like, eh, let's go cheap production.
<v Speaker 4>Uhf in Tulsa.
<v Speaker 3>There you go, by the way, go check out that
<v Speaker 3>location's filming locations video the Jason and I shot a
<v Speaker 3>few weeks ago Super Fun and Specialist Cities spat Spat
<v Speaker 3>see this. We bought it at Spatuliss City for real.
<v Speaker 3>That's true.
<v Speaker 4>The last one, the Golden Spatchela.
<v Speaker 3>If you will, it was the last one, nothing says,
<v Speaker 3>I love you.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 4>We did buy that at the same grocery store that
<v Speaker 4>they shot special City at. Yeah, that place is down
<v Speaker 4>kind of a rougher party town.
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 4>They had a cop making sure nobody was shoplifting, and
<v Speaker 4>we could have pulled down his pants and pushed him
<v Speaker 4>over and stolen everything in the store.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry if you're watching, sir, but literally, I was like,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that he would be any help at all.
<v Speaker 3>Anybody did anything in that store.
<v Speaker 4>We could have tied his shoelaces together and still in
<v Speaker 4>anything we wanted.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, okay, let's move on to casting.
<v Speaker 4>Let's flip back to Pee's Big Adventure.
<v Speaker 3>Sounds good.
<v Speaker 2>I say, we hang him, then we kill him.
<v Speaker 5>I say we stop him.
<v Speaker 4>All right, so we have Paul Rubens is pee wee Herman.
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to get mixed up with a guy
<v Speaker 1>like me.
<v Speaker 3>I'm a loner. Dottie Rebel talked about him.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, let's talk about the little pint sized smoke show
<v Speaker 4>known as e G or Elizabeth Daily.
<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth Daily, she plays Dottie. I'm not Dottie.
<v Speaker 4>Let's go, let's go.
<v Speaker 3>Don't you want to see the rest of the movie.
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to see it.
<v Speaker 4>Dotty I lived.
<v Speaker 3>Now. We've talked about her before, because she was she
<v Speaker 3>was the singer. What was the movie? She was the
<v Speaker 3>singer in the band doing the show. Was it The
<v Speaker 3>Last Dragon? It was Better Off Dead? Better Off Dead?
<v Speaker 3>That was it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So she had been in the movie Valley Girl,
<v Speaker 4>and of course she is also in the movie Better
<v Speaker 4>Off deav She also goes on to do like some
<v Speaker 4>incredible voice work.
<v Speaker 3>She takes over the job as Tommy on rug Rats
<v Speaker 3>Tommy Pickles. Yeah, Kavanaugh was the name of the actress
<v Speaker 3>who had done it originally, and she was also Dexter
<v Speaker 3>on Dexter's Laboratory. I don't know how I came across
<v Speaker 3>just a few weeks ago, but it was this very
<v Speaker 3>sad thing where she died very young. I think she
<v Speaker 3>died at fifty five or something. But she had voiced
<v Speaker 3>all of these incredible characters. But she said when she
<v Speaker 3>she decided she was going to take a break and
<v Speaker 3>focus on her family, and she said, Elizabeth Dailey is
<v Speaker 3>the perfect person to voice Tommy Pickles, and she is. Yeah. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 3>Then we also have Mark.
<v Speaker 4>Holton as frances Pee Wee.
<v Speaker 5>You make me, don't you make me?
<v Speaker 3>Because I don't make monkeys.
<v Speaker 5>I just trained them.
<v Speaker 3>I saw him, and I immediately went to the stubbled
<v Speaker 3>fat basketball player on teen Wolf Wolf like, he looks
<v Speaker 3>like he's thirty seven years old out there at court
<v Speaker 3>smoking a cigarette. That's right.
<v Speaker 4>Now, we're gonna cover teen Wolf here in just a
<v Speaker 4>few weeks.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're gonna do teen Wolf versus Monster Squad, which
<v Speaker 3>has another connection coming up here in the casting right,
<v Speaker 3>talk about that here and just think it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, now, this was Peey's big adventure, was his first movie.
<v Speaker 4>They got him right out of acting school, okay, hired
<v Speaker 4>him right away. But do you know who they had
<v Speaker 4>in mind for the Francis part?
<v Speaker 3>Nope?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Corey Feldman was who they asked, he auditioned, he
<v Speaker 4>got the parts, and then passed on it to do
<v Speaker 4>the Goonies.
<v Speaker 3>Well that was a good that was a good choice. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I could totally see him as the I mean, the
<v Speaker 3>difference in those two people is amazing though right, like
<v Speaker 3>completely different. Corey Feldman would have been a much more
<v Speaker 3>believable Braddy kid who wanted the bicycle. That would have
<v Speaker 3>been a great cast. Yeah, yeah, okay, keep going, all right.
<v Speaker 4>Then you have Diane Salinger. She plays Simone dream.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm all alone.
<v Speaker 4>I'm rolling a big donut and the snake wearing a.
<v Speaker 3>Best Simone the waitress. Let's talk about your big bet,
<v Speaker 3>Simone and her dreams. Yeah, what are your dreams? He will,
<v Speaker 3>I always have this dream.
<v Speaker 4>He's a snake wearing a vest and not that kind
<v Speaker 4>of dream that part, Craig. I watched that movie with
<v Speaker 4>Ava just the other day and he's talking about how
<v Speaker 4>you know. She's saying it's my dream to go to Paris,
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, well you should go. She's like yeah,
<v Speaker 4>But he's like, everybody I talked to has a butt.
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about jer big butt. And Ava thought.
<v Speaker 3>That was so funny. That's awesome, all right.
<v Speaker 4>Then you have jud Omen who plays Mickey, the felon
<v Speaker 4>that he picks up on the side of the road.
<v Speaker 3>Great straight man.
<v Speaker 4>When he pulls over it picks on pee wee. He's
<v Speaker 4>wearing broken handcuffs. It's clear that he's a felon. You're right,
<v Speaker 4>he is a great straight man. And Paul Rubins just
<v Speaker 4>goes crazy while in drag playing his wife for the top.
<v Speaker 3>It's brilliant. He's a brilliant straight man for that part.
<v Speaker 3>And he's a brilliant straight man in his delivery of
<v Speaker 3>the line of the crime he committed. You know those
<v Speaker 3>tags on the back of the mattress do not remove.
<v Speaker 3>I get really angry sometimes it's brilliant, brilliant. Yeah, super funny. Okay.
<v Speaker 4>You just have kind of a cast of characters that
<v Speaker 4>kind of come in and out of his life throughout
<v Speaker 4>the movie. No real major players, although I do want
<v Speaker 4>to point out you have Cassandra Peterson, yes, otherwise known
<v Speaker 4>as Elvira, Mistress of.
<v Speaker 3>The dark YEP, who plays the biker chick. Give him
<v Speaker 3>to me, I say, you're give him to me first? Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I say, you let him go. That's Cassandra Peterson. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>You also have John Parragon, who plays one of the
<v Speaker 4>actors on the lot we talked about that.
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to point out you have Jason Hervey. Jason
<v Speaker 3>Hervey is the actor who has gifted the bicycle for
<v Speaker 3>the movie that is being shot now. Jason, this is
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty five, shooting in eighty four, right, Yeah. And
<v Speaker 3>another movie that came out in eighty five that you
<v Speaker 3>might have heard of. It's called Back to the Future
<v Speaker 3>where he plays a young coonskin capped uncle to Marty
<v Speaker 3>McFly what's a rerun? And then and then just two
<v Speaker 3>three years later we get The Wonder Years where he
<v Speaker 3>is Kevin's older brother. Yep. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>He also has a part in The Monster Squad, which
<v Speaker 4>we're going to talk about here in just a few weeks.
<v Speaker 3>Ah. Perfect, okay, perfect.
<v Speaker 4>One of the people that I wanted to point out
<v Speaker 4>to you as well. In that shot with Kevin who's
<v Speaker 4>arguing with the director, She's like this kids drive me
<v Speaker 4>crazy and I can't take you anymore.
<v Speaker 3>That's Lynn Stewart. Okay.
<v Speaker 4>She is in The Groundlings. Oh okay, And she plays
<v Speaker 4>Miss Evon.
<v Speaker 3>Oh miss yes, okay, oh yes. The fantastic. I love it.
<v Speaker 4>A lot of his friends making appearances.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, spoiler alert for the The Pee Wee Show,
<v Speaker 3>he gets one wish from the genie. He wants to.
<v Speaker 4>Fly and the look as boy in the whole World.
<v Speaker 3>But Miss Yvonne wants Captain Carl, Captain Carl to like her,
<v Speaker 3>to like like like her. Yeah, and Pee Wee decides
<v Speaker 3>to give his wish to Miss s Evon. He wishes
<v Speaker 3>for that to come true, and because he chose to
<v Speaker 3>do the right thing, he gets his wish too, which
<v Speaker 3>is to fly the luckiest boy in the world. Very
<v Speaker 3>biblical right.
<v Speaker 4>A couple other people I want to point out to
<v Speaker 4>you that I think are just freaking off the chain funny.
<v Speaker 3>In this You have James Brolin, brilliant, who plays p W.
<v Speaker 3>P W Herman W Herman. Have you got any messages
<v Speaker 3>for Room one O four? Name's Herman, p W Herman?
<v Speaker 5>No, nothing right now, mister Herman.
<v Speaker 3>And he's the guy in charge of the X one Yes.
<v Speaker 3>And then of course the movie Dottie.
<v Speaker 4>Morgan Fairchild in her hottest of hottest.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, I'm married to Morgan.
<v Speaker 4>You also have Milton Burrell make a cameo.
<v Speaker 3>He does.
<v Speaker 4>He's walking through which that's how Pee gets on the lot.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. In the in his entourage, he's telling a joke
<v Speaker 3>and Pee was like, that's so funny, and he sneaks
<v Speaker 3>onto the lot. Humber. The last time we talked about
<v Speaker 3>Milton Burr, I do because he is Uncle Milty and
<v Speaker 3>he's the real uncle to Marshall Burrell, who's right, discovered
<v Speaker 3>Van Halen and then after losing Van Halen got a
<v Speaker 3>little band called Rat called Rat. That's right.
<v Speaker 4>Speaking of Rat, you have a cameo of Twisted Sister.
<v Speaker 3>I was. I had no idea that was coming.
<v Speaker 4>I was.
<v Speaker 3>My mind was blown. I was like, what, oh fantastic.
<v Speaker 4>So Twisted Sister is shooting a music video on the
<v Speaker 4>lot and here comes Pee Wee riding his bike right
<v Speaker 4>through the middle of it.
<v Speaker 3>That's brilliant. Okay, So that does it for casting for
<v Speaker 3>Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Come back join us next week.
<v Speaker 3>We will do part two. We will dive in on
<v Speaker 3>casting on UHF. We will talk about soundtracks, we will
<v Speaker 3>talk about bits, we'll talk about tidbits, all kinds of
<v Speaker 3>fun stuff. Be sure and join us for that, and
<v Speaker 3>then of course, we'll give you our final judgment on
<v Speaker 3>which of these two movies It's two weird movies are
<v Speaker 3>the best. We will see you guys then, thank you
<v Speaker 3>so much for joining us. What's your name? I can't
<v Speaker 3>remember where you're from. I can't remember did you remember anything?
<v Speaker 3>I remember the album