Mötley Crüe's "Girls, Girls, Girls" (1987): Track by Track!

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 2>Be Serious Podcast. We are here today, ready to dance
<v Speaker 2>on glass.
<v Speaker 3>Got my motorcycle, I got my switchblade. James, We've got
<v Speaker 3>a handful of grease, so our hair feel's.
<v Speaker 4>Right assuming I had hair? Yeah, my hypothetical high art fields.
<v Speaker 2>Back once again.
<v Speaker 3>We've got our good friend, mister James Buckley, lawyer and
<v Speaker 3>drummer extraordinaire from Louisiana.
<v Speaker 2>James, how you doing today?
<v Speaker 4>I'm wonderful guys and during the usual summer heat wave,
<v Speaker 4>and glad to be back on screen with you fellas.
<v Speaker 2>It's good to have you back. I'm excited to hear
<v Speaker 2>your opinion on this album. We are comparing this album
<v Speaker 2>to the White Snake nineteen eighty seven album. If you
<v Speaker 2>want to hear our opinions on those songs and the
<v Speaker 2>stories behind all of them, please go back and check
<v Speaker 2>out our last episode. But today we are jumping in
<v Speaker 2>on Girls, Girls, Girls. We are going to be talking
<v Speaker 2>about Motley Crue again. We have covered Motley Crue before
<v Speaker 2>whenever we did Doctor Feel Good versus skid Row skid Row,
<v Speaker 2>so I went into a great deal of history, so
<v Speaker 2>you can go back and check that one out on
<v Speaker 2>our Doctor Feel Good track by track episode. We will
<v Speaker 2>of course be getting into all kinds of other stories today,
<v Speaker 2>but this album basically starts off with Nicky six dying
<v Speaker 2>and being thrown in a dumpster, and then when the
<v Speaker 2>album's over and the tour is over, he's dead again.
<v Speaker 3>Book nded with Nicky Six's death on both sides of
<v Speaker 3>this album, yep.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and that second death is what spawned them to
<v Speaker 2>finally come clean and record Doctor Feel Good. But this
<v Speaker 2>is the album that they recorded the opposite of sober,
<v Speaker 2>whatever that word might be. It is unclean if you will.
<v Speaker 3>They were buried in drugs at this time.
<v Speaker 4>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>The executive producer for this episode is our good new
<v Speaker 3>friend mister Adam Mshsky.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Adam was the one who had done our
<v Speaker 2>Shirly showcase last that's right week, and he came on
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<v Speaker 3>If you want to join our Patreon go to Patreon
<v Speaker 3>dot com Slash Shirley podcast. It's been said before that
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of filler on this album. The fact
<v Speaker 3>that they wrote any good songs at all is incredible.
<v Speaker 2>Here is what Doug Taylor, their manager. They had Doc
<v Speaker 2>McGee and Doug Taylor. This is what he said about
<v Speaker 2>the album. Nicki was normally a talented and prolific songwriter,
<v Speaker 2>but he just couldn't write enough good songs for girls, girls, girls.
<v Speaker 2>Do you want the Truth? Tom Werman made that record.
<v Speaker 2>We even had to include a live track, Jailhouse Rock.
<v Speaker 2>On the album. Nicki wrote one song in a key
<v Speaker 2>that Vince couldn't even sing in, and some of his
<v Speaker 2>lyrics were absolute direk One day he came and wasted
<v Speaker 2>and he'd written a song called Hollywood Knights that was
<v Speaker 2>just so bad, really really horrible. Every day heroin Booze
<v Speaker 2>Zombie does. But I mean, there have been a lot
<v Speaker 2>of great albums written with all of those factors involved.
<v Speaker 2>We just have to answer the question, is this one
<v Speaker 2>of them? Okay, well, we're gonna break it down.
<v Speaker 3>This album was released May fifteenth, nineteen eighty seven, so
<v Speaker 3>just a little bit after the White Snake album was
<v Speaker 3>released like a month and a half.
<v Speaker 2>This album debuted at number two.
<v Speaker 3>At number one was Whitney Houston's second album called Whitney
<v Speaker 3>Yep Nikki six And Doc McGee feels like they got.
<v Speaker 2>Screwed on this stale.
<v Speaker 3>This is the days when record stores would just kind
<v Speaker 3>of report back numbers, like we sold this many. There
<v Speaker 3>wasn't that scan code and all that stuff. And they
<v Speaker 3>were being told at the time that they were out
<v Speaker 3>selling everything two to one. And then all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 3>the Whitney Houston people took all the A and R
<v Speaker 3>people out on this cruise and vacation and wind and
<v Speaker 3>dined them and then what do you know, Whitney Houston's
<v Speaker 3>album is the number one album in the country.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then later on White Snake has the number
<v Speaker 2>two album, while Motley Crue has the number three album.
<v Speaker 2>And so for the Girls Girls Girls Tour, they got
<v Speaker 2>White Snake into open but White Snake was actually the
<v Speaker 2>more popular band, and they were originally just going to
<v Speaker 2>play a few early dates, but Doug Taylor and Doc
<v Speaker 2>McGee decided to increase their pay from four thousand per
<v Speaker 2>night to ten thousand per night, and so they stayed
<v Speaker 2>through October.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's say that again, because for our younger listeners,
<v Speaker 3>I might be striking because at that moment, in the
<v Speaker 3>fall of nineteen eighty seven, White Snake was more popular
<v Speaker 3>than Motley Crue.
<v Speaker 4>James am I wrong, h No, And having seen that tour,
<v Speaker 4>I understand why White Snake were definitely firing on all cylinders.
<v Speaker 4>At the time. The crew seemed to be kind of
<v Speaker 4>going through the motions except for the you know, obviously,
<v Speaker 4>the backup girls on stage and Tommy's drum solo. From
<v Speaker 4>everything I've read, I'm surprised this album was able to
<v Speaker 4>be recorded at all. I'm pretty sure if it were
<v Speaker 4>subjected to a drug test it would have failed. That's true.
<v Speaker 3>So this album was produced by Tom Warman. This is
<v Speaker 3>the same guy who produced Stay Hungry by Twisted Sister.
<v Speaker 3>He did Cocked and Loaded by La Guns. He did
<v Speaker 3>Shout Out the Devil Theater Payne Motley Crue's previous albums.
<v Speaker 3>He did Open Up and Say Ah Bye Poison. He
<v Speaker 3>did Cat Scratch Fever by Ted Nugent. He did some
<v Speaker 3>stuff by Cheap Trick. I mean, this guy was a
<v Speaker 3>prominent producer at the time.
<v Speaker 2>Major player and Duck Taylor says the guy who is
<v Speaker 2>responsible for this album.
<v Speaker 3>Notice he did not come back as producer for Doctor Fielge.
<v Speaker 2>No, they were ready to be done with him and
<v Speaker 2>they had moved on to Bob Rock at that point.
<v Speaker 3>Ye, okay, we're ready to dive in track by track.
<v Speaker 2>Let's jump in track by track, Coming Hard out of
<v Speaker 2>the Gate song number one, wild side. Dude, you asked
<v Speaker 2>me how I was coming on these songs and what
<v Speaker 2>I thought of the album, and I said, well, you
<v Speaker 2>got some rockers, you got some skip and you got
<v Speaker 2>some songs about strippers. This is most definitely a rock.
<v Speaker 4>It's one of the best starting tracks ever, one of
<v Speaker 4>the best Motley Cruz songs. Mick Marris came up with
<v Speaker 4>just that incredible guitar riff, which you noticed there's no
<v Speaker 4>guitar solo in the song, which don't really need it,
<v Speaker 4>because Mick keeps that going standley about the whole song.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that guitar comes in like the revving of an
<v Speaker 2>engine and then blasts in with Tommy's drums into that
<v Speaker 2>incredible riff. It is. Mick mars is the driving force
<v Speaker 2>on this song, and my opinion, number one song on
<v Speaker 2>the album by far, by far, the number one song
<v Speaker 2>on the album. Okay, well talk about that.
<v Speaker 4>I talked to about seven buddies of mine who were
<v Speaker 4>all talented guitarists, and to a man, the word they
<v Speaker 4>used describing Mick Marris was underrated. And I think he
<v Speaker 4>is definitely the unsung hero of this album.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, he is a musical genius. And it's funny because
<v Speaker 2>knowing that, I mean, he was a little older or
<v Speaker 2>a lot older, because we don't know whether he's born
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty or nineteen fifty five. There's like some
<v Speaker 2>confusion about the year he was born by five years.
<v Speaker 2>But he had been through the ringer. I mean, he
<v Speaker 2>had been through banned after band after band before joining
<v Speaker 2>these guys, and he had lived in the gutter. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>he had child support, he had to pay, he had
<v Speaker 2>a wife he had to support, and he had no
<v Speaker 2>money and he's living on the streets basically getting rides
<v Speaker 2>from other people, didn't even have a car. Then he
<v Speaker 2>joins this band. His skills were on point and remained
<v Speaker 2>so throughout the tenure.
<v Speaker 3>It seems to me that that gap in time allowed
<v Speaker 3>him to mature musically. You know, a bunch of young
<v Speaker 3>punks and then you have a mature guitar player who's
<v Speaker 3>bringing these great rips.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this song started from an interesting place.
<v Speaker 3>You told the story on now Doctor fielget episode.
<v Speaker 2>We gotta tell it again. Yeah, okay, so got to
<v Speaker 2>tell it again. So January of eighty seven, Nikky six
<v Speaker 2>is watching a young groupie who has come to see
<v Speaker 2>him over the lunch break put her Catholic school girl
<v Speaker 2>uniform back on. He said she would come over and
<v Speaker 2>she was very friendly. And then she's putting a uniform
<v Speaker 2>back on.
<v Speaker 3>So you do the math, right, seems like she's still
<v Speaker 3>in high school.
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like it would be correct. Yes, I don't
<v Speaker 2>think any college kids are wearing the Catholic schoolgirl uniforms.
<v Speaker 2>While she's getting dressed, Nikki's laying there and he says,
<v Speaker 2>is the Lord's prayer important? And she's like, yeah, of
<v Speaker 2>course it's important to me, it's important for the whole religion, right,
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, okay, great, and then he takes her
<v Speaker 2>on his motorcycle and drops her back off at the
<v Speaker 2>school and has the nuns scowling at him because obviously
<v Speaker 2>he is this unwashed, leather bound rocker, and he said,
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what they would think if they knew what
<v Speaker 2>I was about to do to the Lord's Prayer.
<v Speaker 3>So he actually asked her to show it to him
<v Speaker 3>in her Bible. Yeah, Nikki six wrote wild Side after
<v Speaker 3>reading the Lord's Prayer from the Holy Bible.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, So that little tryst was January twenty ninth, nineteen
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven. January thirtieth, nineteen eighty seven. Nikki laid around naked,
<v Speaker 2>playing guitar and writing music, and he wrote these lyrics,
<v Speaker 2>our father, who ain't in heaven, be thy name on
<v Speaker 2>the wild side, Holy merry Mother, May I pray for
<v Speaker 2>us on the wild side.
<v Speaker 4>We start off with a felony and blasphemy. I read
<v Speaker 4>a review from back in nineteen eighty seven when it
<v Speaker 4>was released, and some guy in some magazine said the
<v Speaker 4>problem with this album is it starts off with two
<v Speaker 4>awesome tracks and it's really hard for the rest even
<v Speaker 4>compared to it. Well, that's what he talked about. He
<v Speaker 4>was casually seeing a Catholic schoolgirl. Yeah, I'm not sure
<v Speaker 4>the law all would see it so casually, but hey, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>right later. Legal has never been my thing, so.
<v Speaker 3>Hey, one thing on Becky. She was the daughter of
<v Speaker 3>a prominent Hollywood actress.
<v Speaker 2>We don't know.
<v Speaker 3>I tried to find out who that was, Like, who
<v Speaker 3>are we talking about here?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, could not find it. He goes so far as
<v Speaker 2>to mention that specifically, but as of yet, nobody knows
<v Speaker 2>who that is, and that's probably best for him that
<v Speaker 2>nobody ever find out.
<v Speaker 4>Yikes, in our state statue limitations is thirty years, so
<v Speaker 4>he may be okay losing.
<v Speaker 3>Some of the ideas on this song is based on
<v Speaker 3>the lou Reed song wild Side.
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.
<v Speaker 4>I think this from a musical standpoint, this is one
<v Speaker 4>of the most creative they got on the album because
<v Speaker 4>you go from two distinct fields. You got that driving
<v Speaker 4>four on the floor field they played during the verses
<v Speaker 4>and a lot of solo, and then in a couple
<v Speaker 4>of parts during the bridge and the closing they pretty
<v Speaker 4>seamlessly switched to this kind of bouncy shuffle type feel,
<v Speaker 4>and for the crew to go between two different fields
<v Speaker 4>like that, I was actually impressed.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the album that they certainly inject a
<v Speaker 2>lot more blues into. You know, initially when they came out,
<v Speaker 2>they were kind of this combination of punk glam and metal,
<v Speaker 2>and then they kind of steadily moved into more of
<v Speaker 2>the glam metal, and by the time they got to
<v Speaker 2>this album, they had gone to the rougher, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they took off the makeup and started growing the stubble,
<v Speaker 2>and now we're kind of the bad boy look and
<v Speaker 2>more of the blues feel more of a rock metal
<v Speaker 2>than anything else.
<v Speaker 3>I remember telling you the story that they would make
<v Speaker 3>fun of Vince for taking a shower. There were lots
<v Speaker 3>of times when I read the Heroin Diaries where he
<v Speaker 3>talks about I went eight days without a shower. I
<v Speaker 3>went eleven days without a shower. So gross, it's disgusting. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>Nikki six said he would go down Sunset Boulevard. He
<v Speaker 3>had a black Mercedes with dark tinted windows, and he
<v Speaker 3>would roll down his window and there would be these
<v Speaker 3>guys on the street corner selling Persian heroin in balloons
<v Speaker 3>and they had them in their mouth. Just the idea
<v Speaker 3>of buying heroin out of a balloon that had been
<v Speaker 3>in a drug dealer's mouth.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm too uptid, puritanical man when I buy my
<v Speaker 4>hair onin on the streets.
<v Speaker 2>Of La I know other places that people keep their
<v Speaker 2>heroin balloons. Okay, the mouth would definitely be my preferred
<v Speaker 2>horifice if you will. Were you ready to talk about
<v Speaker 2>the video, Let's talk about the video.
<v Speaker 3>This video was shot in Indianapolis, Yeah, margat Square Arena.
<v Speaker 3>So they shot this one July eighteenth, nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 3>They had Wayne Eisham, who was their go to guy
<v Speaker 3>for videos. They had him shoot the video and as
<v Speaker 3>they're about to shoot the.
<v Speaker 2>Video, he said, Nicky said what he always says to me,
<v Speaker 2>I don't want the same old bon jovie. So they
<v Speaker 2>decided to do a over the top live video of
<v Speaker 2>their concert. They put cameras on everybody, put one on
<v Speaker 2>Tommy Lee's revolving. That was the coolest drum I remember.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would watch the video just for that.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got the nasty habits out there looking hot.
<v Speaker 2>And I was more into Tommy's drums at that point
<v Speaker 2>because it was so cool what they did. Nicki refused
<v Speaker 2>to have a camera on him. They took another camera
<v Speaker 2>and put it inside of a plexiglass bubble like that
<v Speaker 2>dribble ball. Yeah yeah, well, if you'll remember, that's what
<v Speaker 2>bon Jovi did too. They did that on another video.
<v Speaker 2>So he literally was Yes, he literally was stealing these
<v Speaker 2>ideas and using them for bon joviy, but Motley fans,
<v Speaker 2>being who they are, they immediately broke the glass the
<v Speaker 2>camera right. Here's what Wayne Eisham said. He said, the
<v Speaker 2>problem was that Motley had this thing called the double bubble.
<v Speaker 2>They'd give you a bottle of Jack Daniels before the
<v Speaker 2>show and shout double bubble, which meant you had to
<v Speaker 2>drink straight from the bottle until the bubbles went up twice.
<v Speaker 2>So I was trying to work the main camera on
<v Speaker 2>stage faced and Nicki came up behind me and bit
<v Speaker 2>me really hard in the arm, and suddenly I had
<v Speaker 2>this searing pain and Nicki was standing in front of
<v Speaker 2>me laughing his head off. He thought it was the
<v Speaker 2>funniest thing in the world man to be the guy
<v Speaker 2>that shoots the Motley Crue videos and have that fame,
<v Speaker 2>but have to pair it up with the madness of
<v Speaker 2>that band.
<v Speaker 4>Imagine being bit by Nikki six at the time. I
<v Speaker 4>would need a shot immediately.
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, I would do a double bubble from a purel bottle. Hey,
<v Speaker 2>listen to this.
<v Speaker 3>I was watching TV and I came across Sammy Hagar's
<v Speaker 3>World Tour show. I don't know if you guys seen that.
<v Speaker 3>And he goes around the interviews musicians and he just
<v Speaker 3>happened to be talking to Tommy Lee and he was
<v Speaker 3>asking him specifically about the interesting drum solos and the
<v Speaker 3>kits and sort of the roller coaster stuff that he
<v Speaker 3>likes to do. And Tommy Lee said, I went to
<v Speaker 3>a concert one time and the drummer there was somebody
<v Speaker 3>that I really loved and respected.
<v Speaker 2>His name was Tommy Aldridge. And he said that.
<v Speaker 3>That Tommy Aldridge was going crazy on the drums, and
<v Speaker 3>then that was the time that people got up and
<v Speaker 3>went to the bathroom and it really bothered him.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, man, don't you understand how cool this guy is?
<v Speaker 3>Right, but he said there was a problem because it
<v Speaker 3>was like a wall of drums and you couldn't see
<v Speaker 3>what he was doing technically, and so he's like, that
<v Speaker 3>is something I need to fix so people eyes.
<v Speaker 2>Will be on me when I dumped. Yeah, I remember that.
<v Speaker 2>He woke up and he was like, I had this
<v Speaker 2>dream of a spinning drum set, and by gosh, he
<v Speaker 2>made a reality.
<v Speaker 4>He did. It was amazing to see. And if you
<v Speaker 4>think about the logistics. You have to have every piece
<v Speaker 4>of equipment bolted down. He's wearing like an alignment like an
<v Speaker 4>electrical worker, use harness and a see and having to
<v Speaker 4>play against gravity, and the guy plays like a madman.
<v Speaker 4>It was amazing to see.
<v Speaker 3>If you have not seen this video, you really owe
<v Speaker 3>it to yourself to go check it out.
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. It is really amazing, and it does start off.
<v Speaker 2>You see the Nasty Habits almost immediately off the bat,
<v Speaker 2>and the story there is they had just hired those
<v Speaker 2>girls like they hadn't been working for the band very long, right,
<v Speaker 2>and they were really the only two to two audition
<v Speaker 2>and Nicki when they got hired, Nicki almost immediately said
<v Speaker 2>no effing the backup singers, okay, guys, which was a
<v Speaker 2>little late because Vince had already tried them successfully unsuccessfully.
<v Speaker 2>But then Emmy Cannon, one of the two Nasty Habits,
<v Speaker 2>started giving googly eyes to mc mars, and mcmahars fell
<v Speaker 2>into the palm of her hand like a puddle of water.
<v Speaker 3>Nikki said that that one guy that could be trusted
<v Speaker 3>was Mick. Yeah, you know, and in this case she
<v Speaker 3>got him hook line and singer, which.
<v Speaker 2>Was a problem because she was an employee of the band,
<v Speaker 2>and so you've got because of the way Mick is,
<v Speaker 2>you've got an employee leading him around by the nose.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, she passed away a few years ago.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she passed away in twenty seventeen. They had actually
<v Speaker 2>they actually got married and were married for like four years.
<v Speaker 4>I think, Yeah, I've been trying to figure out why
<v Speaker 4>the riff is so effective. I think it's because in
<v Speaker 4>a lot of modern pop music, were used to hearing
<v Speaker 4>songs and multiples of four one two three four two
<v Speaker 4>two three four, but this one does it adds an
<v Speaker 4>extra two beats, So basically the riff stretches out over
<v Speaker 4>ten beats, and I think that extra little two beats
<v Speaker 4>of anticipation when it makes it even even more effective
<v Speaker 4>when it comes back.
<v Speaker 3>In second single released August of nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 2>What was the first single, Jason, Let's go on to
<v Speaker 2>the first single.
<v Speaker 3>That song was called Girls, Girls, Girls, And what.
<v Speaker 4>You gotta love about this song is, I mean they
<v Speaker 4>always say you're supposed to write what you know. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>it's a pretty simple, straightforward rock. The enthusiasm that comes
<v Speaker 4>through about the subject matter on this song.
<v Speaker 2>This is the song that caused me to start listening
<v Speaker 2>to Motley Kirr. To be specific, this was the video
<v Speaker 2>that I saw and I said, I really really like
<v Speaker 2>Motley Krer. I think they have some really good music.
<v Speaker 4>Like a trip down Memory Lane.
<v Speaker 2>Huh, Like we said.
<v Speaker 3>This was the first single disreach number twelve on the
<v Speaker 3>Hot one hundred.
<v Speaker 2>This became the stripper anthem because it's literally a song
<v Speaker 2>about strippers.
<v Speaker 4>You know, I always hear about people going to Major
<v Speaker 4>League Baseball parks, trying to make it a thing to
<v Speaker 4>see every major park. It was wondered if someone's ever
<v Speaker 4>done like stripper log instead of a travel log. I
<v Speaker 4>tried to see all these clubs in one trip.
<v Speaker 3>So you teed me up right there. So I've got
<v Speaker 3>to tell you about all the strip joints that are
<v Speaker 3>name checked in this song real quick.
<v Speaker 2>All right, you guys ready for this? Yes, here you go.
<v Speaker 3>The Dollhouse in for Lauderdale. They hung out there in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four during the Theater of Pain tour. Tattletales
<v Speaker 3>Lounge is in Atlanta. Interesting thing about this. In two
<v Speaker 3>thousand and nine, one of the dancers claim to have
<v Speaker 3>hooked up with Josh Duhamel guy who is married to Fergie.
<v Speaker 3>He's an actor, had some controversy there. You've got the
<v Speaker 3>Seventh Veil in La this is still open. This is
<v Speaker 3>actually where the music video was filmed. And according to
<v Speaker 3>one dancer, there's still tons of cocaine passing through the
<v Speaker 3>Seventh Veil.
<v Speaker 2>No. Yes, Crazy Horse in Paris, France.
<v Speaker 4>It's still open.
<v Speaker 3>Celebrity sidings at Crazy Horse, Paris, France. You're ready for this,
<v Speaker 3>Scarlett Johansson, Rihanna, Lona del Rey, Robin Thick, Kevin Costner.
<v Speaker 3>This is like that place that Clark goes to with
<v Speaker 3>Ellen in European vacation. Kind of a fancier place.
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the landmarks.
<v Speaker 5>It is.
<v Speaker 2>You go to the Louver, you go to the Eiffel Tower.
<v Speaker 2>Crazy Horse, Crazy Horse. All right.
<v Speaker 3>You've got the body Shop in La you can tell
<v Speaker 3>by the giant sign outside that says girls, Girls Girls.
<v Speaker 3>Then you've got the Marble Arch in Vancouver. Tommy Lee
<v Speaker 3>and Vince Neil had their own VIP section in this place.
<v Speaker 3>It has been closed and condemned. It looks like bombs
<v Speaker 3>went off at this place after it's heyday in the eighties.
<v Speaker 3>It was purchased and turned into a cleaner karaoke club
<v Speaker 3>run by Mormons. This new rebranding didn't work. Imagine that
<v Speaker 3>they even invited Motley Crue to come check it out.
<v Speaker 2>Guess who didn't show.
<v Speaker 3>Up, Molly Crue. Okay, lastly, you have the Tropic Cana.
<v Speaker 3>Vince lost his heart in Tropic Canno. It's known for
<v Speaker 3>oil wrestling and mud wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. So April twelfth, nineteen eighty seven,
<v Speaker 2>Tommy Lee, Wayne Eisham, and Nikki six are doing a
<v Speaker 2>tour to find the perfect place to shoot the Girls
<v Speaker 2>Girls Girls video, and Nicky points out, Wayne really gets
<v Speaker 2>where we come from. It's just a shame that that
<v Speaker 2>bastard steals our ideas for Bonjo. So they shot the
<v Speaker 2>video at the Seventh Vale. When they got done shooting
<v Speaker 2>at Seventh Veil, they said, okay, let's go over to
<v Speaker 2>Wayne's studio. We're gonna shoot some insert shots at the
<v Speaker 2>studio location. And so Wayne is with Tommy and one
<v Speaker 2>limo and Nicky is left in another limo and Wayne says,
<v Speaker 2>you know what, let's stop at this Mexican food place
<v Speaker 2>and gets some shooters and Tommy's like, all right, man
<v Speaker 2>shooters and strippers. And so when they walk in the door,
<v Speaker 2>Nicky six is already there with a line of shooters
<v Speaker 2>and he looks up and he's like, what are you
<v Speaker 2>guys doing here? It wasn't a line of shooters for them.
<v Speaker 2>He had no idea they were coming. It was all
<v Speaker 2>for him, because Nicky doesn't go halfway. He goes zero
<v Speaker 2>or ten. That's it.
<v Speaker 3>You know you mentioned the unedited version. They actually sent
<v Speaker 3>the unedited version to MTV and said this is our
<v Speaker 3>video for girls, girls girls, knowing full well that they
<v Speaker 3>were going to reject it.
<v Speaker 2>So what happens. Sure enough, MTV rejects it.
<v Speaker 3>They send in the video they actually want, and that's
<v Speaker 3>the one that we got.
<v Speaker 2>It worked, It worked. It was the number one video.
<v Speaker 2>Like they had some sort of Battle of the Bands
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it's like TV, right, yes, something like that,
<v Speaker 2>where they won and then they won again, and they
<v Speaker 2>won again, in like fourteen times in a row they won,
<v Speaker 2>and I really we won again, and so finally MTV
<v Speaker 2>just took him off. It wasn't even that they lost.
<v Speaker 2>They took him off and they established what was called
<v Speaker 2>the crew rule. You can't go more than what I
<v Speaker 2>guess fourteen times before you're done.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, as usual. Some parts of Vince's lyrics always make
<v Speaker 4>me perk up my ears. Like he says, talks about
<v Speaker 4>someone telling him a story, and I've always wondered what
<v Speaker 4>story you wanted the stripper to tell him. I always
<v Speaker 4>pictured some obscure Doctor Seuss, but like, oh, the strip
<v Speaker 4>clubs you will see or something like that, it doesn't
<v Speaker 4>give as much clue beyond that.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've got a question for you guys. Do you
<v Speaker 3>all know who Marjorie and Orban is? No?
<v Speaker 2>Did you come across this?
<v Speaker 4>I did not, Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Marjorie and Orban is one of the girls in the video.
<v Speaker 3>She worked at the Dollhouse in for Lauderdale. In two
<v Speaker 3>thousand and nine, she was convicted of murder for her
<v Speaker 3>husband Jay. So here's the deal. Jay Orban was found
<v Speaker 3>in the desert wrapped in a trash bag. She cut
<v Speaker 3>him up like they cut him up, headless, armless, legless,
<v Speaker 3>torso and put in like a giant cooler and buried
<v Speaker 3>in the desert. She was seen buying the equipment for
<v Speaker 3>the murder. So actually, one of the girls in the
<v Speaker 3>video is doing life in prison for killing her husband cooler.
<v Speaker 2>Really glad that you explained that, because I thought, man,
<v Speaker 2>he has to be a really small guy to fit
<v Speaker 2>inside of a cooler. That is torso oh.
<v Speaker 3>When they were interviewing the girls to appear in this video,
<v Speaker 3>Wayne Aisham said, there's a lot of beautiful girls, but
<v Speaker 3>a lot of them couldn't dance, so they they're dancing
<v Speaker 3>was not up to standards. So actually, the girl in
<v Speaker 3>the fishnet stockings at the very.
<v Speaker 2>Beginning of the video, she is a hired dancer. I
<v Speaker 2>can just imagine somebody turning off the video. Oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>these girls can't dance.
<v Speaker 4>Was a toe drag or whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I do have one story about this. So they
<v Speaker 3>were working on the song before the video and Mick
<v Speaker 3>Mars wasn't really happy with the riff that he had
<v Speaker 3>come up with, and so he had talked to Nicky
<v Speaker 3>and he said, hey, man, I'm gonna tweak that riff.
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, I'm gonna do an eight ball cocaine
<v Speaker 3>tonight and when I come back in the morning, i'm
<v Speaker 3>gonna have a better riff.
<v Speaker 2>Sure enough, that worked, and here we go.
<v Speaker 4>You always hear about Steven Tower and Joe Pierre say,
<v Speaker 4>and they consume the gross national product of Columbia or
<v Speaker 4>whatever back in there. You gotta wonder what the crew consumed.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Nicky six by himself was a force to be
<v Speaker 2>wrecked with Tommy Lee at least had to work around
<v Speaker 2>Heather Lockler's schedule, Oh mom's home stuff off. Straighten up everybody.
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people don't realize Tommy Lee is kind
<v Speaker 4>of a savantal drums. He's not like a Neil Peart
<v Speaker 4>type player, but he always seems to find something cool
<v Speaker 4>to spice up every song.
<v Speaker 2>He would find the soul of that song in the drums.
<v Speaker 4>Friend of mine named Kyrie Smith made me a set
<v Speaker 4>recording the first Shout at the Devil album my freshman
<v Speaker 4>year in high school, and I was just starting to
<v Speaker 4>play drums still at that time. I spent way too
<v Speaker 4>much time trying to figure out those tracks, obviously when
<v Speaker 4>my mom wasn't around, because they won't have to explain
<v Speaker 4>Shouting at the Devil.
<v Speaker 3>It's at mom at. I was gonna make mention there's
<v Speaker 3>a scene in the video where Vince actually throws the
<v Speaker 3>girl over his shoulder and is carrying her out. That
<v Speaker 3>is shrise, Neil. They actually got married. Oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 3>he married that girl.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, she's actually the mother of Skyler Neil, the girl
<v Speaker 2>who developed cancer and died. All right, we'd bring it down. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry about that, okay. Can I tell you the
<v Speaker 2>story of how Wayne met the guys from Motley Crew?
<v Speaker 4>Sure?
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So he was a stage manager for the A
<v Speaker 2>and M soundstage in LA and Motley came into shoot
<v Speaker 2>the Shout at the Devil video. Before the video, all
<v Speaker 2>the members of the band are like, we need some
<v Speaker 2>Jack Daniels. What nobody had anything except for Wayne. Wayne.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I got a bottle of jack in my office. Actually,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, great, he said, first video, and they
<v Speaker 2>drank his entire body before this shoot. But it was
<v Speaker 2>a great meeting because the very first video that he
<v Speaker 2>shot for them was the smoking in the Boys Room
<v Speaker 2>video and then Home Sweet Home, both of which really
<v Speaker 2>put them on the map as far as MTV is concerned.
<v Speaker 2>But again, he routinely had to deal with Nicki complaining
<v Speaker 2>about stealing his stuff for bon Jovi, and at one
<v Speaker 2>point Nicki actually sucker punched him and said, f you, Wayne,
<v Speaker 2>stop stealing our stuff.
<v Speaker 4>I saw the crew twice, first back in eighty seven
<v Speaker 4>and a second time in two thousand and six, one
<v Speaker 4>of their reunion tours, when my wife was eight months pregnant,
<v Speaker 4>which may explain when my daughter loves that's a medal
<v Speaker 4>and all. I think they played both of these songs
<v Speaker 4>Wildside and Girls Girls Girls both shows.
<v Speaker 3>These two right out of the gate are bangers.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, so what have we got for number three?
<v Speaker 3>The third song on the album is a song called
<v Speaker 3>Dancing on Glass.
<v Speaker 2>The beginning of this song makes me feel like you're
<v Speaker 2>about to introduce me to the villain in some sort
<v Speaker 2>of dark nineties movie. Okay, it's just thirty. It's like
<v Speaker 2>you get ready to be introduced to the devil.
<v Speaker 3>The story behind this song you can tell by the words.
<v Speaker 3>It's very autobiographical, right right, So you've got things like
<v Speaker 3>found Me in the trash, Silverspoon and needle, Witchy, tombstone, smile,
<v Speaker 3>and I Engrave my veins with style.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The full line is Valentine's in London, found Me
<v Speaker 2>in the trash. That is a reference to that I
<v Speaker 2>mentioned before February nineteen eighty six. He's getting some drugs
<v Speaker 2>from a hyped out druggie and when he does them
<v Speaker 2>and dies the drug, he panics and throws him into
<v Speaker 2>a dumpster.
<v Speaker 3>Even before he throws him in the trash she beats
<v Speaker 3>him to death with a baseball bat. Because the guy
<v Speaker 3>doesn't know what to do, and to try to revive him,
<v Speaker 3>he thumps him with a baseball bat.
<v Speaker 2>I think they teach that in CPR.
<v Speaker 3>Actually turned blue and he woke up in the trash bin.
<v Speaker 3>And then does he stop? No, he doesn't stop.
<v Speaker 4>I remember reading that this song was written after the
<v Speaker 4>band or management or somebody had a little intervention. They
<v Speaker 4>had some counselor waiting to meet up with him. Of
<v Speaker 4>course Nicki stomped out, but the councilor following him and
<v Speaker 4>told him said, look, I can help you kick heroin
<v Speaker 4>without going to rehab. And they went to his house,
<v Speaker 4>throughout all the needles and other parafernalia laying around, and
<v Speaker 4>Nicky said he sat down and wrote this song that night.
<v Speaker 3>Bob Timmins was actually the guy that night.
<v Speaker 2>He wrote Dancing on Glass.
<v Speaker 4>One of the biggest problems I had with this album.
<v Speaker 4>And there are a lot of things I like. There's
<v Speaker 4>a lot of times the lyrics seem a bit just
<v Speaker 4>thrown out there. They didn't put a lot of thought
<v Speaker 4>into him. It's not the case on this song. I
<v Speaker 4>think this contains some of Nicki's best lyrics on the album.
<v Speaker 2>There's some really good lyrics on here, and because, like
<v Speaker 2>you said, they are writing what they know, and this
<v Speaker 2>was this was his life at that point. Apparently, the
<v Speaker 2>July fifth show in eighty seven in Memphis, they're playing
<v Speaker 2>this song and during the song, a guy in the
<v Speaker 2>crowd froze a bundle of drugs onto the stage and
<v Speaker 2>then mimes shooting up at Nicky as if it were
<v Speaker 2>a you know, thank you or something.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Later on that night he says, I have a story
<v Speaker 2>about a girl, a banana and some leftover fireworks, but
<v Speaker 2>I'm too tired to tell it. My imagination just ran
<v Speaker 2>wild of that one.
<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing to me on this song is it's
<v Speaker 3>you have lyrics like I've been through hell and I'm
<v Speaker 3>never going back, and then like right after that, I
<v Speaker 3>need one more rush than I know, I know I'll stop,
<v Speaker 3>and so it's very similar to those feelings of I'm
<v Speaker 3>totally quitting, I'm out, I'm never doing this again, and
<v Speaker 3>then ten minutes later they're like, need another rush.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this was a gritty song. In some ways. It
<v Speaker 4>took me back to the too Fast for Love shout
<v Speaker 4>at the Devil era of course. Then we go to
<v Speaker 4>our gospel interlude, which took me by shock the first
<v Speaker 4>time I heard it.
<v Speaker 2>I thought, these first three songs, they're gritty, they're kind
<v Speaker 2>of sleazy, they're kind of dirty, they're almost pre appetite
<v Speaker 2>for destruction under belly of La type of feel. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's funny because this was before Guns n' Roses hit big,
<v Speaker 2>but he was already friends with Slash. He talks about
<v Speaker 2>how Slash had this band that they'd put together and
<v Speaker 2>they really hadn't hit it big get and he said,
<v Speaker 2>I want to get you guys an opening slot on
<v Speaker 2>our show. But at that point they had White Snake
<v Speaker 2>opening for him, but he was ready to get rid
<v Speaker 2>of them and get Slash and Axel doing the opening set.
<v Speaker 2>If you hear the story from our other Motley Crue
<v Speaker 2>episode about the second death of Nikki six, Slash was
<v Speaker 2>there and freaking out and actually got punched out by
<v Speaker 2>his girlfriend.
<v Speaker 3>Check out our Doctor Phil Good episode for that story.
<v Speaker 4>And I did a little research that's out of curiosity.
<v Speaker 4>It appears that The girl doing the backup gospel vocals
<v Speaker 4>was named Phyllis Saint James. Okay, Motown had a pretty
<v Speaker 4>extensive Motown pedigree, which has also done vocals for like
<v Speaker 4>backing vocals I think for Paul Young and Pink Floyd
<v Speaker 4>on occasion. So she had some serious gospel chops. It
<v Speaker 4>was just interesting to hear here hers throwing into.
<v Speaker 2>A crew song. Yeah, sweet Chiva, you are my Jesus
<v Speaker 2>this witch. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And I had no idea what Chieva was at the time,
<v Speaker 4>being a you know, boy growing up in rural North Louisiana.
<v Speaker 4>Interesting that with a slang term for heroe.
<v Speaker 2>All right, anything else on this one? To me? This
<v Speaker 2>is number three song on the album. Number one is
<v Speaker 2>number one, number two is number two, and number three
<v Speaker 2>is number three. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Song number four is called bad Boy Boogie.
<v Speaker 2>Well they're coming strong with the blues on this one,
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they are. I enjoyed this song a lot. Not
<v Speaker 2>quite a rocker, but not a skipper either.
<v Speaker 3>It's not a skipper, absolutely not dans.
<v Speaker 2>Where are you with this one? Man?
<v Speaker 4>Usually it's a skipper. I don't know. It just felt
<v Speaker 4>too formulaic at this point. There's some fun parts to
<v Speaker 4>it like the drums are fun, Mick Morris plays great,
<v Speaker 4>but it just was almost like a mad Libs sleazy
<v Speaker 4>lyric song. Although you know, all this talk of pies
<v Speaker 4>and puny jars and thirty eight and all that sounds
<v Speaker 4>like you're singing about Jessica Rabbit. But I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I look this up.
<v Speaker 3>Thirty eight twenty eight, thirty eight is clearly measurements, right,
<v Speaker 3>giant boob, small waist, big butt.
<v Speaker 4>Right.
<v Speaker 3>So I looked up Anna Nicole Smith when she did
<v Speaker 3>Playboy in May of nineteen ninety two. Her measurements were
<v Speaker 3>thirty six twenty six thirty eight.
<v Speaker 2>So pretty close lot, as close as you can do. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>The lyrics of this song will featured in a prominent
<v Speaker 3>advertising campaign a few years ago.
<v Speaker 2>Any guesses on the company you got me? Okay?
<v Speaker 3>The lyric goes, We're innocent in every way like apple
<v Speaker 3>Pie and Chevrolet.
<v Speaker 2>It was on a Chevrolet commercial.
<v Speaker 3>Okaye, better lock up your daughters when the Motley's hit
<v Speaker 3>the road.
<v Speaker 2>No truer words have ever been spoken. Okay, So I
<v Speaker 2>gotta tell an on the road story, all right, Yes, okay,
<v Speaker 2>so we got Fred Saunders, Yes right, So Fred Saunders
<v Speaker 2>was the former Hell's Angel who they had as their
<v Speaker 2>head of security, and Fred would routinely have to enact
<v Speaker 2>security upon them. He broke Tommy Lee's nose. He broke
<v Speaker 2>Nicky Six's ribs at one point because he was out
<v Speaker 2>of control. And he said, and I routinely beat out
<v Speaker 2>of Vince Neil because well he's an asshole.
<v Speaker 3>This is called fun and nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why these guys got a bad boy rep.
<v Speaker 4>When I started listening to this album, I really did
<v Speaker 4>try to keep just a track of lyrical felonies. I
<v Speaker 4>gave up after the first.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're about to get into some of the more
<v Speaker 3>serious felonies.
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like that sounds like a great band name
<v Speaker 2>right there. We're the lyrical felonies.
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty good.
<v Speaker 4>You write that down.
<v Speaker 2>Moving on to one of the more interesting songs on this.
<v Speaker 6>Album musically, it's interesting the way it's recorded.
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not going to say something bad about a
<v Speaker 4>song about someone's grandmother.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, Nikki six had a horrible relationship with
<v Speaker 2>his mother. We mentioned she kind of went through men
<v Speaker 2>routinely and would run off with men and leave him
<v Speaker 2>with basically strangers, and so he ended up being raised
<v Speaker 2>by his grandparents quite a bit, Tom Reese and no Noah,
<v Speaker 2>and No Noah was a mother figure for him that
<v Speaker 2>he did not have. He truly loved her deeply. And
<v Speaker 2>then I believe it was in eighty five or eighty
<v Speaker 2>six she passed away, but he was so strung out
<v Speaker 2>at that point he could not force himself to go
<v Speaker 2>to her funeral. And he was so depressed about the
<v Speaker 2>fact that he was this strung out that he sat
<v Speaker 2>down and while watching TV wrote this song. Tom was
<v Speaker 2>the good old boy granddad that would take him hunting
<v Speaker 2>and fishing and stuff like that. He actually eventually came
<v Speaker 2>out to see Nicki a few times and after the
<v Speaker 2>funeral and everything, and he Nicki would try to clean
<v Speaker 2>himself up, but basically could only get to the stage
<v Speaker 2>where he would just do a little bit of drugs
<v Speaker 2>to get him through instead of the mountain that he
<v Speaker 2>would normally do. And he was trying to hide it
<v Speaker 2>from Tom, but Tom knew better. But Tom said, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I can't fix him. He's going to choose to fix himself,
<v Speaker 2>he said. So he'd be kind of strung out and
<v Speaker 2>people would come to the door, and I'd just let
<v Speaker 2>him in. Usually it was girls, and unless they looked
<v Speaker 2>too darn young, I wouldn't let those girls in, or
<v Speaker 2>if they were drug dealers, and then I would tell
<v Speaker 2>them they got to go, he said. One old boy
<v Speaker 2>got a little persistent until I waved a shotgun in
<v Speaker 2>his face. He didn't come back again after that.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with songs like this, I mean, you get the
<v Speaker 4>idea that there's a pretty keen melodic and musical sense
<v Speaker 4>lurking behind Nicki and probably the other guys. They don't
<v Speaker 4>show it all the time, but when they did, it
<v Speaker 4>really makes you wonder what they could have done. They
<v Speaker 4>didn't have so much hero whin in their blood system
<v Speaker 4>at the time.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well what they could have done was Doctor Fielder,
<v Speaker 2>which was the number one album that they had, So
<v Speaker 2>there you go. I'm not sure if it was this song,
<v Speaker 2>but in January, just a little while before he had
<v Speaker 2>the little tryst with Becky from Wildside, he showed up
<v Speaker 2>to practice, started teaching Tommy and Mick this song and
<v Speaker 2>then Tommy's like, dude, what's on your hand? And it
<v Speaker 2>was that his veins had all collapsed and that it
<v Speaker 2>just looked so bad that it looked like he had
<v Speaker 2>been had this weird tattoo or something. And he got
<v Speaker 2>up and he's like, I got to the bathroom and
<v Speaker 2>then he didn't come back. So he comes back in
<v Speaker 2>on the next day. He sits down and he starts
<v Speaker 2>teaching him this new song that he's written, and he's
<v Speaker 2>like and they were really getting it, and then I realized, oh,
<v Speaker 2>this is the same song I was trying to teach
<v Speaker 2>them yesterday. It's a bad shit It's a bad shite hit.
<v Speaker 3>Stop on your tape player, kick it out, flip it
<v Speaker 3>over side too. And we start off with a song
<v Speaker 3>called five Years Dead.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So as we were doing our text exchange over
<v Speaker 2>the week, I gave you a hot take on this
<v Speaker 2>one and I said, I think this is the most
<v Speaker 2>underrated song on the album. I also said it sounds
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot like another song that was big in
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty seven, Right, you remember what I said.
<v Speaker 3>It sounded line Once Bitten Twice Shy by great Way.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's got the same rhythm. It's obviously got you know,
<v Speaker 2>heavy crunchy guitars instead of the piano that Once Bitten has.
<v Speaker 2>But if you listen to five Years Dead and then
<v Speaker 2>you sing mam Ma. It's the same melody. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>they both have that same bluesy style about them. These
<v Speaker 2>two songs are super close.
<v Speaker 3>I almost fell over when you said that, because you
<v Speaker 3>nailed it.
<v Speaker 4>This is another one of those songs that have grown
<v Speaker 4>on me after repeated listening over the last few days. Musically,
<v Speaker 4>it's fun to listen to Mick Moore's is in some
<v Speaker 4>cool bluesy metal stuff when his guitar Tommy Lee doing
<v Speaker 4>the cool drum breaks. I wouldn't put this in the
<v Speaker 4>top tier on the album, but it's definitely crept into
<v Speaker 4>my top five.
<v Speaker 2>Wow. See this is a skipper for me. Oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>this is a skipper.
<v Speaker 3>It's okay, it just doesn't stand out from the crowd.
<v Speaker 2>I think if they had released this one and released
<v Speaker 2>it before once Bit and everybody went like great Whites
<v Speaker 2>just to knockoff of five Years Dead, that's the real song. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>You're entrance by sixty sou from Hong Kong or what? Well,
<v Speaker 2>who wouldn't be So here's the story. February nineteenth, nineteen
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven, Nikki six goes to an antique bookstore and
<v Speaker 2>picks up a book called five Years Dead, and he
<v Speaker 2>said it just seemed kind of fitting. And then he says,
<v Speaker 2>what is it about antiques that intrigues me? There's a
<v Speaker 2>feeling of history, a story not so plain to see
<v Speaker 2>that it seeps from the wood. It somehow makes me
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable. I almost bought an old coffin today, but
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't think of where to keep it in this house. Wow,
<v Speaker 2>maybe he should go live with Phil Spector, that old
<v Speaker 2>glass coffin Phil Spector. So that was February nineteenth. February twentieth,
<v Speaker 2>four in the morning. So I've started writing a song
<v Speaker 2>called five Years Dead. I guess it's another attempt at
<v Speaker 2>capturing what Aerosmith did on their first album. What a
<v Speaker 2>great record. It brings back all the best and worst
<v Speaker 2>memories of Seattle. How I survived those days, I'll never know.
<v Speaker 2>So thinking about Aerosmith and this kind of bluesy style,
<v Speaker 2>I can definitely hear the similarities. Yeah, I agree.
<v Speaker 4>Lyrically, it's an interesting turn of phrase. It sounds like
<v Speaker 4>they're given some sort of scenario where somebody's in jail
<v Speaker 4>for another one of those lyrical felonies we discussed, But
<v Speaker 4>it's down there away for five years. Is the phrase
<v Speaker 4>five years dead seems like an interesting way of describing
<v Speaker 4>that situation.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it's interesting because, just like you mentioned just
<v Speaker 2>a second ago, he mentions himself, He's like, we recorded
<v Speaker 2>five years dead today and it sounds badass. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know how I'm writing songs like this when I'm this
<v Speaker 2>close to dying. I wonder what it would be like
<v Speaker 2>if I were writing songs straight.
<v Speaker 7>Wow.
<v Speaker 3>Here's a quote from Nikki six On this one. The
<v Speaker 3>lyrics are very raw. Wild Side Girls, Girls, Girls, and
<v Speaker 3>five years Dead are great examples where I felt like
<v Speaker 3>I really kneeled it.
<v Speaker 2>There you go, Okay, all right, here we go.
<v Speaker 3>Second song on side two, this song called All in
<v Speaker 3>the Name.
<v Speaker 2>Of talk about lyrical felonies.
<v Speaker 4>If this song were a person who could not go
<v Speaker 4>within one hundred yards of certain schools.
<v Speaker 3>All right, you know who this song is written about, right, No,
<v Speaker 3>I'm about to blow your doors off man.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the first line of the song is she's
<v Speaker 2>only fifteen. She's the reason, the reason I can't sleep.
<v Speaker 2>This song is written about Tracy Lord's.
<v Speaker 3>One of the most infamous porn stars in history.
<v Speaker 2>Tracy Lords had gone to Hollywood to become a star
<v Speaker 2>at fifteen years old. She convinced the porn directors that
<v Speaker 2>she was old enough to be in the show.
<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, she just happened to be in the July
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four Penthouse magazine that just so happened to
<v Speaker 3>be the one that featured pictures from Vanessa Williams Miss America,
<v Speaker 3>and so that had so much staying power. Bob GUCCIONI
<v Speaker 3>made fourteen million dollars from that issue alone.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, fourteen year old at the time, I could neither
<v Speaker 4>confirm nor deny that that.
<v Speaker 2>But well, I've mentioned the cousins of California, of the
<v Speaker 2>twins that I went and saw the rated our movies
<v Speaker 2>with at a very young age. They also had a
<v Speaker 2>large collection of magazines, and I may have seen one
<v Speaker 2>of I may have seen that Vanessa Williams inadvertently. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>that's right. I can neither confirm nor tonight.
<v Speaker 4>Lash back to the top Gun series. Wasn't it Terry
<v Speaker 4>Nunn from Berlin who also had a similar fifteen year
<v Speaker 4>old experience or.
<v Speaker 2>Something that's exactly right, almost exactly eight years before.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Verry Nunn, lead singer of Berlin who sang take
<v Speaker 3>My Breath away. Go back to our top Gun soundtrack
<v Speaker 3>episode check.
<v Speaker 2>Out on it.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we talked about how Children of the Night
<v Speaker 3>is a song designed to start concerts. All in the
<v Speaker 3>Name Of is a song designed to start concerts. In fact,
<v Speaker 3>this was the opening track for the Motley Cruez segment
<v Speaker 3>of the Moscow Peace Festival when Motley Crue and Scorpions
<v Speaker 3>and bon Jovi and skid Row and Cinderella and Gorky
<v Speaker 3>Park went over and played this massive concert in Moscow.
<v Speaker 4>Scorpions should have written a song about that.
<v Speaker 2>Well, the CIA did. We need to talk about that sometimes.
<v Speaker 3>If you guys have ever seen the movie Like Father,
<v Speaker 3>Like Son starring Dudley Moore and Kirk Cameron, dropped in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty seven, is one of those body switch movies,
<v Speaker 3>right ye, kind of like Vice Versa and Freaky Friday and.
<v Speaker 2>Some of those eighteen again eighteen again, there's a lot
<v Speaker 2>of them, right yeah.
<v Speaker 3>In the movie Like Father, Like Son, they use this
<v Speaker 3>song All in the Name Of and they also use Wildside.
<v Speaker 4>Wildside got used. I've seen it in the office and
<v Speaker 4>other places. It's been all over the place.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.
<v Speaker 4>If y'all see me twirling the drumsticks in the background.
<v Speaker 4>I do because we're mentioning Tommy Lee.
<v Speaker 2>When I was.
<v Speaker 4>Younger, I taped the videos off MTV for Looks to
<v Speaker 4>Kill and Too Young to Fall in Love, and I
<v Speaker 4>would pause them over and over to watch the spot
<v Speaker 4>where he just looks at the camera and goes like that.
<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, one day, one day, gentlemen, I will
<v Speaker 4>do that. And it's easy to fake, but it looks
<v Speaker 4>so cool when you did it in the video.
<v Speaker 2>Well done. I told you guys that I was watching
<v Speaker 2>the Dirt last night, you know, for research purposes. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>for sure, And before my daughter walked in, I had
<v Speaker 2>to stop half like, but that's a great scene where
<v Speaker 2>he sits down and starts talking to Nicky for the
<v Speaker 2>first time, and he's got his drumstick with him and
<v Speaker 2>he starts twirling it around. And Nikki's like, where'd you
<v Speaker 2>learn to do that? And He's like, I was in
<v Speaker 2>Marching band.
<v Speaker 3>I have got a road story. Can I tell this
<v Speaker 3>road story?
<v Speaker 4>Sure? Okay.
<v Speaker 3>So they did all kinds of crazy stuff. One particular night,
<v Speaker 3>Nikki talked about how all four guys from the band
<v Speaker 3>went down to the hotel lobby bar. They pulled out
<v Speaker 3>their white snakes and laid them on the bar. They
<v Speaker 3>poured Jack Daniels over all.
<v Speaker 4>Four.
<v Speaker 2>You know you mean my Johnson? You're Johnson.
<v Speaker 3>They lived on fire, okay, And the next the next morning,
<v Speaker 3>Nicki six couldn't understand why he was missing hair.
<v Speaker 2>His pubes were burned off.
<v Speaker 3>If we had a if we had a manscaped episode,
<v Speaker 3>that would be a great tie in right there.
<v Speaker 2>So you mentioned guns and Roses. His deal with Slash,
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I love Slash, but he would always piss
<v Speaker 2>my bed, like he would get so blitzed out drunk,
<v Speaker 2>he would piss the bed and he goes. And one
<v Speaker 2>night when we were on tour together, he goes in
<v Speaker 2>the hotel room. He can't even make it up to
<v Speaker 2>his room. He's so drunk. He falls asleep on the
<v Speaker 2>couch and pisses the couch. Then he wakes up and
<v Speaker 2>he realizes he's in the wrong hotel, so he has
<v Speaker 2>to get out. It's freezing cold outside, and he's wandering
<v Speaker 2>around in the streets with free with basically no clothes
<v Speaker 2>on and his pants wet with piss and it's freezing cold.
<v Speaker 3>I listened to a story last night, Nikki six, talking
<v Speaker 3>about how he woke up hungover, not sure what happened.
<v Speaker 3>When he puts the clues together, it's kind of like
<v Speaker 3>the hangover. He realized that he saw Fred Sanders' bed
<v Speaker 3>in half and tried.
<v Speaker 2>To push the couch up with them. Oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>So there you go.
<v Speaker 4>That is Keith Moon approved rock star behavior. This is
<v Speaker 4>a skipper for me.
<v Speaker 2>This is a skipper.
<v Speaker 4>I just feel like I need to take a shower.
<v Speaker 4>After I listened to it, the sleeve factor got dialed
<v Speaker 4>up a few notches on that one.
<v Speaker 2>This is a definite skipper for me. This is and
<v Speaker 2>not because of the subject matter, not that I cared
<v Speaker 2>one way or the other, but it's just I don't
<v Speaker 2>think it's a good song.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you guys are both wrong. But speaking of filler music,
<v Speaker 3>let's move on to the next song. This song is
<v Speaker 3>called something for Nothing.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, this is a skipper for me. This song. I
<v Speaker 2>can really hear the influence of Rick Nielsen on this one.
<v Speaker 2>This sounds like Nielsen. Yeah, sounds like a cheap trick song.
<v Speaker 2>And he and Nicky six were very good friends. He
<v Speaker 2>looked at Nicky looked at him as a mentor and
<v Speaker 2>discusses how he would call Rick up and try to
<v Speaker 2>act straight, and then he'd be like, hold on for
<v Speaker 2>a minute, and then he'd go shoot up, throw up,
<v Speaker 2>come back to the phone. And Rick was the kind
<v Speaker 2>of guy that would still be there, ready to listen
<v Speaker 2>to whatever it was he had to say.
<v Speaker 3>This Songe reminds me of Brattlesnake Shake from Doctor Feel Good.
<v Speaker 8>It's just the cow bell. It's just a little bit goofy.
<v Speaker 8>I got a fever. The only killer is more cow bell.
<v Speaker 8>It's a total killer in my opinion.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's kind of a skipper for me. And
<v Speaker 4>I guess Vince didn't mean the lyrics literally because he
<v Speaker 4>says I've got a toy guaranteed to put the spring
<v Speaker 4>back in your socks. Number one selling toys in eighty
<v Speaker 4>seven were like Teddy Ruckspin and Cabbage Batch Doll, so
<v Speaker 4>I'm assuming he wasn't referring to that. Also, sixty three
<v Speaker 4>sixteen once again lyrical felony.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the lyrics are goofy. The music doesn't really capture me.
<v Speaker 3>For me, this is really the only surefire skipper on
<v Speaker 3>the album.
<v Speaker 4>I agree, this is a definite skipper for me as well.
<v Speaker 2>No argument here, no definite skipper wow, all three on
<v Speaker 2>this one.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, moving on to the next song on
<v Speaker 3>the album.
<v Speaker 2>This song is called You're All I Need.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, the the floor is yours.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're making me tell this story?
<v Speaker 3>No, I just want your opinion first before we tell
<v Speaker 3>the story.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this okay? So just to start off, this is
<v Speaker 2>the song with the best story with the worst music.
<v Speaker 2>This was my other hot take of the week. This
<v Speaker 2>song sounds like me when I was seventeen with my
<v Speaker 2>four track recorder. This song is not a well made song.
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it at all, James.
<v Speaker 4>There is something a little off about the production. I
<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's piano or keyboard, or the drums
<v Speaker 4>have too much reverb on them, but something does sound
<v Speaker 4>strange about it. I don't think it's a bad song.
<v Speaker 4>I actually like the song. Probably never made many makeing
<v Speaker 4>out lists of nineteen eighty seven for obvious reasons. My
<v Speaker 4>crew standards.
<v Speaker 2>They're wrong about that. But keep going. Okay, dude, if
<v Speaker 2>you're putting this on your makeout list and the girl
<v Speaker 2>has any idea what it's about, she's gonna be like,
<v Speaker 2>what is wrong with you?
<v Speaker 5>You?
<v Speaker 3>Fred, Well, that's the cold key, right. This was my
<v Speaker 3>secret weapon in eighty seven.
<v Speaker 2>But keep going, Oh my god, you should keep it
<v Speaker 2>a secret.
<v Speaker 4>The crew balls. I don't think this was a bad song.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, James, you ben't want to step back
<v Speaker 3>because I'm about to spike the football, Spike the volleyball,
<v Speaker 3>dunk the basketball.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>This is my favorite song on this album.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.
<v Speaker 3>I absolutely love it, and the story behind it is
<v Speaker 3>incredibly cool.
<v Speaker 2>But the music to me is so sad, heartbreaking. I agree,
<v Speaker 2>it's sad, intense. No no, no, no, see, I agree
<v Speaker 2>with all that.
<v Speaker 4>Just listening to it now, it sounds a little odd
<v Speaker 4>the core as the production goes.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I think it's beautiful. This song was
<v Speaker 3>praised by John Monjovi as the greatest Motley Crue ballad
<v Speaker 3>of all time.
<v Speaker 2>I was going to tell you you are at least
<v Speaker 2>in good company because John bon Jovi did love this song. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>shall we tell the story? Yeah, go ahead, Okay. So
<v Speaker 2>this song came about on March sixth, nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 2>They were in the studio and Tommy he started playing
<v Speaker 2>the little piece on the piano in the other room
<v Speaker 2>and Nicky came in, they sat down together, they wrote,
<v Speaker 2>these are his words. We wrote a gorgeous song that
<v Speaker 2>Barry Manilo would be proud of. Now he writes this song,
<v Speaker 2>but the lyrics are the important part. So he had
<v Speaker 2>been dating this girl named Nicole, I know Nicole's last name.
<v Speaker 2>But he had been dating this girl, Nicole, and she
<v Speaker 2>was apparently pretty awesome. But he was confident that she
<v Speaker 2>had had an affair while they were on the Theater
<v Speaker 2>of Pain tour, because I'm sure Nicky was completely celibate
<v Speaker 2>the entire time. Oh yeah, absolutely, no question about it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The second part is he believes she had an affair
<v Speaker 2>with a soap opera star named Jack Wagner. Yes, now,
<v Speaker 2>as it happens. Jack Wagner also did a bit of
<v Speaker 2>singing himself here, and he is among one of the
<v Speaker 2>one hit wonders of the eighties with a song called
<v Speaker 2>all I Need.
<v Speaker 3>You're blowing my mind right here, man, you are blowing
<v Speaker 3>my mind. Play that song right here.
<v Speaker 4>I do remember this one from a high school dancer too.
<v Speaker 2>It was huge in nineteen eighty four.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, thank god it wasn't Michael Damien. She was cheating.
<v Speaker 5>Only there.
<v Speaker 3>That is a deep cut right there, man, Michael Damien
<v Speaker 3>with rock on.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm gonna go on record right now and
<v Speaker 2>say that Jack Wagner song is a thousand times better
<v Speaker 2>than this piece of craft.
<v Speaker 3>How toy here, it's the worst take of all time,
<v Speaker 3>right there.
<v Speaker 2>I love that song. I am not a pop guy.
<v Speaker 2>I'm a hard heavy metal guy. But that song was
<v Speaker 2>the song I remember. And this song is a song
<v Speaker 2>I want to forget.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you have been wrong many times before,
<v Speaker 3>but this is the most egregious thing you've ever said
<v Speaker 3>on this podcast.
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so he's he actually says, he goes. The
<v Speaker 2>fact that I had had sex with over two hundred
<v Speaker 2>different people while tour didn't even enter into my mental equation.
<v Speaker 2>So he writes this song and it, he says, I
<v Speaker 2>guess it's a take on taxi driver in the sense
<v Speaker 2>that if you really love somebody, you'd kill them so
<v Speaker 2>that nobody else can have them, right, Yeah, no, you psychopath.
<v Speaker 2>So then the rest of the keep going. So then
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the story is he records this song
<v Speaker 2>and then once they had the track down, he gleefully
<v Speaker 2>takes it over to her house. Now he's Nicole and
<v Speaker 2>he done many many drugs together, and then they went
<v Speaker 2>to rehab together, and when they got done with rehab,
<v Speaker 2>they realized the only thing they had in common was drugs,
<v Speaker 2>and so he broke up with her. She broke up
<v Speaker 2>with him, whatever it was. But she knows that he's
<v Speaker 2>got this suspicion about Jack Wagner, General hospital guy. He goes,
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I got this song I wrote for you.
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't tell her what's about. I wrote this song
<v Speaker 2>for you. And when it starts playing and she realizes
<v Speaker 2>that the chorus includes the words all I need, she's like,
<v Speaker 2>you so so yeah, and she kicks him out, and
<v Speaker 2>after that it gets about killing her. Yes, but yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that she even got that part right.
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty subtle. It's subtle, right, if you don't see
<v Speaker 2>the video, you don't quite get what it's really about.
<v Speaker 2>Then he thinks, I'm going to take this a step further.
<v Speaker 2>He literally calls a couple of pipe hitting guys to
<v Speaker 2>go and break Jack Wagner's knees. He's like, this is
<v Speaker 2>where he rehearses, this is where they filmed General Hospital.
<v Speaker 2>I want you to find him, and I want you
<v Speaker 2>to break his legs. So the next day, Nicole calls
<v Speaker 2>him and she's like, what did you do because Jack
<v Speaker 2>Wagner's legs have been broken. Yes, and he's like, oh
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, this is the coolest thing I've ever done.
<v Speaker 2>And then his pipe Hitt and buddies call him up
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, hey, sorry, man, we couldn't find them.
<v Speaker 2>We don't know where, we couldn't a what. It turns
<v Speaker 2>out that Wagner had like fallowed off of the stage
<v Speaker 2>during rehearsal and broken his own legs. It was just
<v Speaker 2>a weird The story amazing, It's a crazy, crazy story,
<v Speaker 2>well worth the time for the song. But yeah, definitely
<v Speaker 2>a skipper. I cannot believe he said it's the best
<v Speaker 2>song on the album. This is my favorite Motley Crue
<v Speaker 2>song of all time. Oh let me say that again.
<v Speaker 2>This is my favorite Molly Crue song of all time.
<v Speaker 2>This is where the record screeches. Now once again, this
<v Speaker 2>is okay? So what's better this one or Man in
<v Speaker 2>the Mirror mister ooh tough call, Oh my tough thriller.
<v Speaker 2>Hey listen.
<v Speaker 3>I was telling James that where wherever you enter the
<v Speaker 3>Motley Crue universe, that's the soft spot that you have
<v Speaker 3>right there. So a lot of people entered with Doctor Fieldgod,
<v Speaker 3>it was a mainstream album, and they love without You
<v Speaker 3>or they love Doctor Filgerder same ol situation. When I
<v Speaker 3>was fourteen years old, this song captured me like none other,
<v Speaker 3>and I am super nostalgic, so I'm.
<v Speaker 2>Hanging on to that.
<v Speaker 3>This was the third single release, This is You Got Wildside.
<v Speaker 3>You've got Girls, Girls girls, and You've got your All
<v Speaker 3>I Need. This was released October nineteenth of nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 3>The video was banned by MTV, yeah and effectively killing
<v Speaker 3>the song.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, He's Wayne Eisham said before the video, we had
<v Speaker 2>to talk about what we wanted. We'd seen this news
<v Speaker 2>story about a guy who had killed his girlfriend, which
<v Speaker 2>Nikki related to some events in his own life. Plus
<v Speaker 2>he loved Sid and Nancy, so he kind of wanted
<v Speaker 2>a video about this kind of self destructive relationship. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I know, murder ballads have a long and storied place.
<v Speaker 4>I doubt that's what Nicky was thinking. Back when I
<v Speaker 4>was in high school in this came out, the urban
<v Speaker 4>legend was this was based on a real story about
<v Speaker 4>someone killing I mean, we had no idea about the
<v Speaker 4>Jack Wagner angle. And I checked with my wife Leanna
<v Speaker 4>and my sister and they both were like, yeah, I
<v Speaker 4>thought that was about somebody who really killed someone.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here we go. April second, nineteen eighty seven, Tommy,
<v Speaker 2>a guy named Dwayne Baron, and Nikki are all going fishing.
<v Speaker 2>They have done coke all night long, and then they
<v Speaker 2>go out to the lake to go fishing and they
<v Speaker 2>decided to come back in to get some beer. When
<v Speaker 2>they come back in, Doc McGee is there to greet them,
<v Speaker 2>and he said, Hey, I just wanted to let you
<v Speaker 2>guys know John bon Jovi listened to your song and
<v Speaker 2>he think it's the greatest you've written, the greatest song
<v Speaker 2>of your career. And so Nicky says, which song? And
<v Speaker 2>he says, You're all I need. And he said did
<v Speaker 2>he listen to the lyrics? And Doc's like, why, what's
<v Speaker 2>it about? And he tells him and Doc is like,
<v Speaker 2>you're an asshole.
<v Speaker 3>This song has been called one of their best songs.
<v Speaker 3>It's also been called filler. It seems to me it's
<v Speaker 3>just a polarizing song.
<v Speaker 2>You either love it or you hate it.
<v Speaker 3>Skipper, I can hear Patreon member Cameron Ecker, my college buddy,
<v Speaker 3>laughing right now, he's destroying me in his mind.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get a phone call from him this week.
<v Speaker 2>Cameron always agrees with me. Cameron does agree with you
<v Speaker 2>all the time. Do you know why he's my friend?
<v Speaker 2>Because he's right?
<v Speaker 3>I love it, I love it, I love it, spiked
<v Speaker 3>the football. Best song on the album.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I guess hey, before we move on, somebody wants
<v Speaker 4>to say hi, Hey, head Hannah, come say hi, Hi there.
<v Speaker 1>I'm good.
<v Speaker 6>How about y'all?
<v Speaker 2>You're the coolest girl in Northern Louisiana that we know. Absolutely,
<v Speaker 2>thank you. You can't listen to this one. This is
<v Speaker 2>a mature seventeen. We kept it pretty clean, given the fact,
<v Speaker 2>and we should have, given the fact that we all
<v Speaker 2>have daughters. All right, we moving on to the last
<v Speaker 2>track on the album. Now, Yeah, the thing they had
<v Speaker 2>to fill with. You can't not call this as a
<v Speaker 2>filler because they didn't have anything left to give. They
<v Speaker 2>had to pull some random piece out of the live set. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>let's get into it. This song is called Jelhouse rock.
<v Speaker 3>Dude. Mick Mars is on display on this one.
<v Speaker 2>I have absolutely no trouble listening to Mick Mar's whale
<v Speaker 2>on this petigular song. I love the original Elvis version,
<v Speaker 2>listened to it all the time when I was a kid.
<v Speaker 2>And Mick is absolutely killing it. Tommy is absolutely killing
<v Speaker 2>it as usual. Vince Neil's voice singing this song makes
<v Speaker 2>me want to dig my fingers into my ears. It's horrible.
<v Speaker 2>What are you? How are you? Vince can sing some heavy,
<v Speaker 2>hard songs. I love his voice on a lot of stuff,
<v Speaker 2>but not this song. It's terrible. I think he sounds fantastic. No, no,
<v Speaker 2>I've heard him sound a lot worse. Yeah, well yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I think I saw him doing the uh no. That
<v Speaker 2>was the worst ever. But this is a close second.
<v Speaker 2>I think, James, where are you at this one?
<v Speaker 4>Man? It's pretty clear they were out of material by
<v Speaker 4>this time as far as covers go. I mean, I
<v Speaker 4>don't believe this was live. It feels like the live
<v Speaker 4>sound was piped into the studio. There's an old joke
<v Speaker 4>about Judas Priest. I have a live album called Live
<v Speaker 4>in the East. People call it live in the Studio.
<v Speaker 4>I think that's kind of what situation here was. It
<v Speaker 4>seems kind of pointless, but from a musical standpoint, Like
<v Speaker 4>D said, Mick is shredding all over the place on
<v Speaker 4>this one. During the chorus, Tommy Lee plays this really
<v Speaker 4>fast double bassed shuffle a Glex Van Halen plays and
<v Speaker 4>Hot for Teacher, and that alone. I won't skip it
<v Speaker 4>just because of that.
<v Speaker 3>See, they get a lot of crap for having a
<v Speaker 3>cover on the album, but people seem to forget. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>Smoking in the Boys Room was a cover off of
<v Speaker 3>Theater Pain. It did pretty well. People seem to love it.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why Joe has Rock is all of
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, you know, the worst thing ever. But I
<v Speaker 3>think it's cool. I think it sounds great. I think
<v Speaker 3>it sounds like a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 3>This song was the reason why I really wanted to
<v Speaker 3>go see the concert when they came through my tent.
<v Speaker 3>I also love the fact that my next door neighbor's dad,
<v Speaker 3>who is a huge Elvis fan, thought this was complete sacrilege.
<v Speaker 3>Motley Crue tearing down Elvis, I thought was the coolest thing.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yes, Crewe not a skipper.
<v Speaker 2>Love it. In fact, top down, turn it up.
<v Speaker 4>We know for a fact if it was live or not,
<v Speaker 4>because that's always been in the back of my head
<v Speaker 4>because he's telling some people they've got some effing jive,
<v Speaker 4>and I'm just wondering who he's talking to. But I
<v Speaker 4>tell you, Ony, that's one of the musical things I've
<v Speaker 4>always wanted to learn how to play that fast double
<v Speaker 4>bass shuffle. I keep working on it. One day I'm
<v Speaker 4>going to have it. I remember my mom, who was
<v Speaker 4>also a huge Elvis fan, actually liked this one.
<v Speaker 3>If you guys are listening out there and you know
<v Speaker 3>where and when this particular version of Jailhaus Rock was played,
<v Speaker 3>please let us know. Hit us up on Facebook, hit
<v Speaker 3>us up on Twitter, choose an email we'd love to know.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, Rolling Stone magazine called Jailhaus Rock number
<v Speaker 3>sixty seven greatest song of all time the Elvis version,
<v Speaker 3>the Elvis version.
<v Speaker 4>I don't go out of my way to listen to
<v Speaker 4>this one. If I'm listening to the album and it
<v Speaker 4>gets to it, I won't skip it all.
<v Speaker 3>Right, Before we get to final judgment, let's hear from
<v Speaker 3>our good friend Pat Hanagallo of the thirty something Movie podcast.
<v Speaker 2>Let's hear what he has to say.
<v Speaker 9>Hey, guys, Pat here to weigh in on White Snake
<v Speaker 9>nineteen eighty seven versus Motley Crue, Girls, Girls Girls. First
<v Speaker 9>of all, these are two fantastic albums. I love all
<v Speaker 9>of the music that is on there. The White Snake album,
<v Speaker 9>right from the get go, you have hit after hit
<v Speaker 9>after hit. I remember getting this cassette when I was
<v Speaker 9>a kid and just listening to one side, Flip it over,
<v Speaker 9>other side, flip it over other side, just repeat over
<v Speaker 9>and over. What's best You can still listen to it
<v Speaker 9>with the kids around. Moving over to Motley Crue, one
<v Speaker 9>of my favorite bands. I love listening to these guys.
<v Speaker 9>I love their sound. Hard to listen to them with
<v Speaker 9>the kids around, but that kind of goes part and
<v Speaker 9>parcel with the what Molly Crue is all about. When
<v Speaker 9>you hit play, this album grabs you right away, right
<v Speaker 9>from that opening guitar riff that just kind of growls.
<v Speaker 2>At you right.
<v Speaker 9>You know, it catapults you into the album. Throughout the bass, drums,
<v Speaker 9>guitar are all super tight. They are right in the
<v Speaker 9>groove with each other. What a hard rock and sound.
<v Speaker 9>And then you put Vince Neil's vocals over the top
<v Speaker 9>and you just have this fantastic punch. What I really
<v Speaker 9>like too, Tommy Lee's drums. It seems almost turned up
<v Speaker 9>in the mix, like they're almost putting the drums front
<v Speaker 9>and center to kind of like solidify the whole group.
<v Speaker 9>And I also really like that they've got a lot
<v Speaker 9>of kind of a bluesy boogie woogie style going on
<v Speaker 9>the live track of Jailhouse Rock, like what a Tree.
<v Speaker 9>That's just fantastic stuff. Like I said, I'm a Motley
<v Speaker 9>Crue fan, so of course I'm going to say this,
<v Speaker 9>but every ballad they do I love, and so like,
<v Speaker 9>I'll get stuck on so many of these two on
<v Speaker 9>the album and I'll keep hitting repeat, especially You're All
<v Speaker 9>I Need.
<v Speaker 2>I love it.
<v Speaker 9>How can you skip over the Girls Girls Girls video?
<v Speaker 9>I mean, like, I guess the best way to describe
<v Speaker 9>that video is that it's one heck of a supplemental
<v Speaker 9>material to what they're teaching you in school and what
<v Speaker 9>your parents teach you about the birds and the bees.
<v Speaker 9>You got the Motley Crue Girls Girls Girls video, so
<v Speaker 9>that works. And of course, young Pat, Old Pat, you
<v Speaker 9>start with motorcycles, you end with motorcycles. So like, I'm
<v Speaker 9>definitely hooked into that. I mean, let's be honest, you
<v Speaker 9>really had me at the kickstart of the motorcycle with
<v Speaker 9>this tune. Guys, thank you so much for a great show.
<v Speaker 9>I feel so fortunate to be able to listen to
<v Speaker 9>you guys each week, and so blessed to be able
<v Speaker 9>to call you friends. Keep up all the fantastic work.
<v Speaker 9>If so, if I've got a wayh in on file judgment,
<v Speaker 9>I'd have to pick a better album. You can't. They're
<v Speaker 9>both awesome. Get both albums, listen to them on repeat.
<v Speaker 9>If I have to pick a favorite, I'd have to say, Hey, Jason,
<v Speaker 9>check that out.
<v Speaker 5>Man, what de wear? Girls? Girls? Girls?
<v Speaker 2>I love Pat so much. That is awesome. It's the
<v Speaker 2>best ending I think we've ever had. Pat, you knocked
<v Speaker 2>out one out of the park. First of all, thank
<v Speaker 2>you so much.
<v Speaker 3>If you haven't listened to thirty something Movie Podcast, check
<v Speaker 3>them out. Just for the record, Me, John bon Jovi,
<v Speaker 3>and Pat are all on board with your only need.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Pat's opinion weighs a little heavily for me
<v Speaker 2>more than yours.
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Pat, thank you for doing that, buddy. We appreciate you.
<v Speaker 3>Go check them out thirty something Movie Podcast.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, guys, it is time for our final judgment. We
<v Speaker 2>know that Pat has weighed in and has picked Girls, Girls, Girls.
<v Speaker 2>Is now our time to say which of these two
<v Speaker 2>albums still holds water still is the best? As Pat said,
<v Speaker 2>they are both fantastic albums. You should get both of them.
<v Speaker 2>You should listen to both of them. Yep, but one
<v Speaker 2>of them's better than the other one, at least we
<v Speaker 2>think so, James, why don't you leave us off? Man?
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll preface all of this by saying that I
<v Speaker 4>am also a big fan of both bands. When I
<v Speaker 4>first searched the Shout Out the Devil album my freshman year,
<v Speaker 4>I was blown away and I was a fan of
<v Speaker 4>Motley Crue from that day forward. I'm also a huge
<v Speaker 4>fan of White Snake, so this is not an easy choice,
<v Speaker 4>but I go. I've gone back and listened to both
<v Speaker 4>albums a lot over the last few weeks, and the
<v Speaker 4>White Snake is just towering above the crew on this one.
<v Speaker 4>To me, the songs on the White Snake album they're
<v Speaker 4>really good. Ones are so epic, like Still of the Night,
<v Speaker 4>just a monster riff that still sounds great today, Crying
<v Speaker 4>in the Rain. The players Coverdale and his crew assembled
<v Speaker 4>for this album did an amazing job, and when I
<v Speaker 4>go back and listen to the album, I really don't
<v Speaker 4>skip anything. There are a few I like more than others,
<v Speaker 4>but I really like from front to back. There's not
<v Speaker 4>a big decrease in quality. Girls, Girls, Girls. The band
<v Speaker 4>members themselves I thought were playing really well. I'm a
<v Speaker 4>huge Tommy Lee fan. Have bens It's day one, Mick
<v Speaker 4>turned in his stellar job. But there are great songs
<v Speaker 4>on this album, and there are songs that I instantaneously
<v Speaker 4>want to skip, And I'm afraid that the skippers out
<v Speaker 4>number of the great ones on this album. Wild Side's
<v Speaker 4>an amazing song. Girls, Girls, Girls, There's a lot of
<v Speaker 4>all I need. I think it rains up there. I'm
<v Speaker 4>on power Ballad Royalty, maybe the lower tier, but still
<v Speaker 4>a great song. But they can't overcome songs like bad
<v Speaker 4>Boy Boogie all in the name of songs that instantly skipped.
<v Speaker 4>And just like we said earlier, it's goind of want
<v Speaker 4>to douse myself in purell after hearing occasionally. So the
<v Speaker 4>great songs are great, but the bad songs are bad.
<v Speaker 4>And I think that if you put it on scale,
<v Speaker 4>white Snake comes out ahead on this one.
<v Speaker 2>All right here, right man?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I'm fourteen years old in nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 3>This is my first step into metal. Granted it's MTV medal,
<v Speaker 3>but it's metal for me as a young man, and
<v Speaker 3>I love both man. These were hugely impactful albums, and.
<v Speaker 2>So White Snake. When you go through It's still the Night,
<v Speaker 2>It's here I go again.
<v Speaker 3>I love, don't turn away, give me all your love
<v Speaker 3>is this Love is a wonderful power ballad. When you
<v Speaker 3>look at girls, girls, girls, You've got Wildside, you've got
<v Speaker 3>dancing on Glass, You've got girls, gross girls, I love
<v Speaker 3>your all I need.
<v Speaker 2>There are some skippers.
<v Speaker 3>So for me, when I put these on on the scales,
<v Speaker 3>not only are White Snake's songs better and more of them,
<v Speaker 3>but I'm even going so far as to say the
<v Speaker 3>videos are better. So for me, White Snake out weighs girls, girls,
<v Speaker 3>girls on this one, although I tend to kind of
<v Speaker 3>lean towards pat By. Both listen to ball play, both
<v Speaker 3>have fun, but I'm spiking the football. White Snake nineteen
<v Speaker 3>eighty seven is the better of these two albums.
<v Speaker 2>See Okay, so Molly Crue, the band's so nice. We've
<v Speaker 2>touched them twice. Yeah, when we did skid Row versus
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Feel Good. Before we before I listened both albums,
<v Speaker 2>I was confident that I was not picking Motley Crue.
<v Speaker 2>Skid Row was just too strong. But by the time
<v Speaker 2>we were done with that one, I was like, crap,
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Feel Good is a fantastic album, and it is
<v Speaker 2>amazing what those guys can do when they are not
<v Speaker 2>in the deepest, darkest depths of drug addiction. Unfortunately, on
<v Speaker 2>this album, they were in the deepest, darkest depths of
<v Speaker 2>drug addiction, and I can tell they were struggling to
<v Speaker 2>put some good songs. First two songs out of the gate,
<v Speaker 2>I would have been like, dang, this is obviously the
<v Speaker 2>better album. Wild Side Kills It, Girls, Girls, Girls Kills
<v Speaker 2>It number three not a bad song. Dancing on Glass.
<v Speaker 2>I'll listen to it every time. But basically after that,
<v Speaker 2>I could not listen to those songs for the rest
<v Speaker 2>of my life, and I'd be okay. With Theater of Pain,
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of the same thing. You had the
<v Speaker 2>two songs that really rocked the album, and the rest
<v Speaker 2>of them were just black. With this one, you got
<v Speaker 2>two really great songs, one pretty durn good song, and
<v Speaker 2>then pretty much black after that. For me. White Snake,
<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, Oh my gosh, they have killer
<v Speaker 2>after killer after killer, and some of them are good
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to great, But the great ones are more
<v Speaker 2>great than even the greatest songs on this album, And
<v Speaker 2>so I got to make the decision unanimous here. White
<v Speaker 2>Snake nineteen eighty seven is definitely the better album of
<v Speaker 2>these two girls. Girls Girls is definitely the album worth
<v Speaker 2>listening to. First two songs definitely songs to hold on to.
<v Speaker 2>But White Snake, White Snake, especially with those bonus tracks included, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that is definitely the song that I will pick any
<v Speaker 2>day of the week. Walking out the door.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you mentioned those bonus tracks. That album was so
<v Speaker 3>good you couldn't even fit all the good songs on it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we want to hear from you, guys. How do
<v Speaker 2>we do? Do we get this right? Do we get
<v Speaker 2>this wrong? How do you rank those two albums?
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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for being here for two episodes
<v Speaker 3>in a row for us.
<v Speaker 4>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate the opportunity
<v Speaker 4>to hang out with you guys, even if it is
<v Speaker 4>only digitally. I've had a blast and look forward to
<v Speaker 4>you guys every Tuesday morning.
<v Speaker 2>Thanks buddy, Thanks man, We really appreciate you coming on.
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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, gosh, I'm so glad we got through that
<v Speaker 2>episode without somebody finding some sort of connection to Dan
<v Speaker 2>double in huff.
<v Speaker 10>Yeah d I hate to break this media. In the
<v Speaker 10>Year of Our Lover twenty fourteen, Big Machine Records go
<v Speaker 10>On by Toby Keith put out a tribute album to
<v Speaker 10>Motley Prue called Nashville's Outlaws, which featured a bunch of
<v Speaker 10>modern centy guys reviewing Motley Prue.
<v Speaker 7>Yes and this appriate for this It gets Better most
<v Speaker 7>appropriate for this podcast. Brantley Gilbert did a cover of
<v Speaker 7>Girl Girl Girl. Rechend Wilson did a cover of Wild Size.
<v Speaker 7>Yes prominent in the production of Boat track Dan Huff.
<v Speaker 2>No, yes, yes.
<v Speaker 5>My man dan Hoff.
<v Speaker 3>Lead singer of Giants, had one great song in the
<v Speaker 3>nineties Don't Do It called I'll.
<v Speaker 2>See You in My Dreams.
<v Speaker 5>Yes you, then we will be saying the mighty.
<v Speaker 2>Dan Huff, making another appearance, said I quit