979: Free Agency Fallout

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Speaker 1: This is the Labor Podcast with your host JJ Zachertha j J zacher reson. What's up everyone, It's JJ Zacharyeson in this episode nine hundred and seventy nine of the Late Round Fantasy Football Podcast. Thanks for tuning in. The NFL's free agency period started last week. We've got a lot of players on new teams. Now I won't be able to get to all of those players on today's show, but I've got a list of guys and situations that I want to talk through, so we're gonna get to that today. It's not nearly as nerdy and hard to follow as last week's Draft Capital episode. But first, before we get into these players in new places, remember that you can consume the Late Round Prospect Guide right now. All you have to do is at the Lateround dot com to check it out. The guide includes one hundred and sixty pages of information on a year two and prospect models. It's got eighty prospect profiles. There's about forty year two profile right up, rankings, and more, and it'll be updated once again for you the Saturday of the final day of the draft. That's gonna have updated write ups, so you're ready to crush your rookie drafts immediately. Learn more about it on lateround dot com, and if you're on the site, make sure you also subscribe to the free newsletter. You get content straight to your inbox. It's an easy way to support late round fantasy football. But that's all on lateround dot com. I'll kick off today's episode with an extension of last week's mailbag where I talked about Nase Harris. Now, as I said last week, I've found it interesting how a lot of people in the fantasy football world are crowning Harris as this rock solid RB two in fantasy. I think there's still a decent bit in his way to get there. Right now, one of the things in his way is the current depth chart. It's not because of Son Haskins and Kamani Viadell are gonna steal his job. It's because the competition is lacking. So there's a very real chance the Chargers still adds someone from this loaded running back class. That someone is probably gonna be a little bit more explosive as a compliment to Harris. The sonic to Harris being the knuckles, like I said last week, so that could be a threat to Naji Harris.

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Speaker 2: But so is this Greg Roman offense.

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Speaker 1: I think people just assume that Greg Roman's offenses that means good things for running backs.

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Speaker 2: Well, what if I told.

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Speaker 1: You that over his ten completed seasons as offensive coordinator in the NFL, his backfields have never ranked in the top ten and PPR scoring like as total backfields. You could sit there and say that it's because those offenses had mobile quarterbacks and those mobile quarterbacks steal work from the running backs. Okay, well, last year the backfield was twenty third and PPR points. What's really driving this is the fact that he doesn't deploy his backs that much. As receivers, they ranked no higher than nineteenth and running back target share during this timeframe, their average rank has been twenty six point three, meaning the average Greg Roman backfield. This is since twenty eleven, the average Greg Roman backfield has had a target share rank of twenty six to twenty seventh across the league in a given season, and again it's been no higher than nineteenth. We can sit here and we can say this is a great fit for Najie Harris. I would agree with that. Harris is a power back. Roman is going to get the most out of him, but with his backfields not being as fantasy friendly as people realize, and with the Chargers still need to add more to that depth chart, I'm just not ready to give Naji Harris like an RB fifteen ranking or even an RB eighteen one.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Like I said last week, I haven't built my projections yet, but considering the fact that this may not be as desirable as a spot in fantasy as people realize, and considering the Charges are almost definitely going to add to that backfield, it's just hard today in March to be super bowlish on Najie Harris.

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Speaker 2: As I said last week.

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Speaker 1: For non elite running backs, which I think we'd all agree Naji Harris is not elite. We shouldn't assume elite workloads this time of year, especially with this running back class. Even if he does get that workload, I'm not sure it's gonna give him some massive, massive league winning ceiling anyway. Now, with Naji Harris out of Pittsburgh, the Steelers backfield looks to be mostly Jalen Warrens at the moment, and the Steelers also went out they traded for DK Metcalf, So let's just talk about the Steelers offense as of right now, I have no idea who's going to be starting a quarterback for Pittsburgh. I think the chance that they're a run heavy team is pretty high, though, given Arthur Smith's tendencies. Smith's offenses have ranked twenty nine, to thirtieth and twenty ninth in pass rate when he's been an offensive coordinator. As a head coach in Atlanta, those ranks were eighth, thirty first, and twenty ninth. So his offenses have ranked bottom five in the league in pass rate in five of six seasons as either offensive coordinator or head coach. That's why it's kind of to be super excited about dk Metcalf. Again, we don't even know who the quarterback is right now, but Metcalf has been above a twenty five percent target share just twice in six seasons. We very easily could see a season from him as long as George Pickens is still in Pittsburgh with under one hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty five targets. And if that's the case, we're gonna need really strong efficiency for Metcalf to maintain his fantasy value, at least his pre twenty twenty four value, but Metcalf has always been a little bit overvalued as a fantasy as set, and that just scares me even more so about this match in Pittsburgh. Now, I think the biggest question is what they're gonna do with this backfield if they don't move George Pickens before the draft. We're looking at the Steelers without a second round pick this year because they spent that to get DK Metcalf, So the two very impactful picks for them are twenty first overall and eighty third overall. They added Kenneth Gainwell, but they're still candidates to add to that back but with Warren Gainwell, who's sort of a redundant piece, and then Cordero Patterson, this class is deep.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: I think the likely outcome here is that Pittsburgh uses maybe their fourth or their fifth rounder on a running back that would give Jalen Warren a nice workload or at least potential workload. In twenty twenty five. We know that Warren could be a high target share guy, but if he sees goal line work and more like a fifty to fifty five percent running back rush air, he could finish as an RB two in fantasy, and that Metcalf trade made the likelihood at least a little bit better for Jalen Warren because the Steelers have less capital to spend on a running back. It's what I've been talking about a lot this offseason. We shouldn't make any assumptions about any backfields until after the draft because this class is loaded. With that being said, we still need to investigate the kind of AMMO that each team has in the draft to help calculate the probability of something happening. Could the Steelers spend their first rounder on a running back? Of course, they just went through that with Najie Harris though, so I'm not sure if they want to go that route again, especially with other needs. And I do think the market is just kind of making some assumptions with Jalen Warren, which is why I'd still lean more by than sell even after Najie Harris signed with the Chargers and his cost rose Jalen Warren's cost. Even if they get a running back, Warren could still play a role given his skill set. And then what happens if they don't get a running back? What happens if they don't spend a first a third round pick on a back. Then it's rocket ship emojis for Jalen Warren. I think it's gonna be a really fascinating situation to watch for fantasy purposes.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm the king of.

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Speaker 1: The Seguay today because we'll go from talking about the Steelers to talking about a quarterback who was on the Steelers last year, and that's Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: Field signed with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't some massive contract, but it'll give it an opportunity to be the starter for this new coaching staff. Now, Historically, Justin Fields led teams have not been that great for fantasy. In T twenty twenty three in Chicago, the Bears had one player ranked higher than wide receiver twenty eight and PPR points per game. It was DJ Moore in twenty twenty three. I'll talk about that in a second. Now, Cole Comet was the tight end eighth that season as well, But that's the only relevant season that we.

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Speaker 2: Got from a tight end with Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: And then at running back, David Montgomery was a mid range RB two, But that's all we got in terms of being usable week in and week out. I like to look at things of the team level more so though, because when you look at the individual players, those players might just be given huge workloads that can influence these numbers.

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Speaker 2: In fields.

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Speaker 1: Three years as a Bear, no positional group ranked higher than eleventh and PPR points scored in a single season. His wide receiver ranks were twenty fifth, twenty ninth, and nineteenth. His tight end ranks were twenty seventh, thirtieth, and twenty eighth. His running back ranks were fifteenth, twenty fifth, and eleventh. Even last year, through six games with the Steelers, Pittsburgh wide receivers were pacing to have by far the lowest PPR output of any team in football. They still ranked thirty first, but they were scoring more points as a team with Russell Wilson than Justin Fields. And it was the same story with running backs. Steelers' running backs with Justin Fields were pacing to rank twenty sixth and PPR scoring. Last year they ended up finishing fourteenth. Now, this is all due to a lot of different things. Some of it's the inefficiency of Fields himself, some of it's the offensive system, the offensive personnel. Some of it is the fact that he's a mobile quarterback. We have plenty of data showing that mobile quarterbacks create tougher circumstances for their weapons in fantasy football because they're taking plays away from the offense and totality because of their mobility. To overcome that, the quarterback has to be really good or he has to be playing in a pass heavy offense. And that's what worries me about the Jets offense with Justin Fields. From a fantasy perspective, we have a lot of data suggesting that Justin Fields is not a special quarterback, and we also have a lot of data showing how run heavy his offenses tend to be, regardless of the coordinator. This was my fear when I had Garrett Wilson as a cell earlier this offseason. His ADP was super high because he's a really good player, but he hadn't proven to be so significantly better than someone like Chris Alave or Jalen Waddle. And given the free agency class at quarterback in this year's draft class at the position, it's hard to imagine a world, or it was hard it still is where Wilson could easily live up to that cost in twenty twenty five, because what quarterback was going to step in and give him that elite production, or at least help him. I think we're at the point where it's definitely going to be pretty hard. But this takes me back to that DJ Moore season in twenty twenty three. People are going to point to Moore's ninety six catch, thirteen hundred and sixty four yard, eight touchdown season as evidence that Wilson can do the same. DJ Moore hit almost seventeen PPR points per game that year. I think this is where we have to distinguish between what's possible and what's probable. I do think a great season from Garrett Wilson is still possible, but we should also recognize what happened to DJ Moore that year, how great he really was, and how even the best receivers in the game can't just assume that they'd be as great. For instance, Moore had a twenty eight and a half percent target share. Could Wilson get that, for sure, But Wilson's only reached that mark in one of three seasons. Moore had a yards per run rate of two point three. Could Wilson get that for sure? But Wilson's also never been above a one point nine yards per rout run rate. Throughout his career, Moore had a yards per target rate over ten yards. Could Wilson get to that, for sure? But Wilson's also never been above a yards per target rate of seven point five in his career. That's about seventy five percent of DJ Moore's number in twenty twenty three. Because DJ Moore's twenty twenty three happened doesn't mean that Garrett Wilson is locked into that kind of here in twenty twenty five. It's nice that it happened and that we saw Justin Fields lock on to one receiver, but you still have to look at the downside, and that downside is that the Jets are a run heavy team. Justin Fields isn't even an average quarterback as a passer, and Wilson sees a little bit more competition at the position, maybe through the draft.

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Speaker 2: It's harder to see that wide receiver one season happening now.

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Speaker 1: Now, I honestly don't have a ton of Geno Smith related takes aside from the fact I think it's an upgrade for the Raiders offense in general. But instead of spending time on him, I want to focus on the team that he came from, and that's Seattle. The Seahawks no longer have DK Metcalf and Gino Smith. They now have Sam Darnold and Cooper Cup and that's a pretty big change. Now, I, like a lot of people, I'm skeptical that Sam Darnold is all of a sudden a worthy franchise quarterback outside of Kevin O'Connell's system. Now, the contract doesn't say that he's gonna be that, So don't think that I'm saying that the Seahawks are commit in that way. But with all that being said, I think it's good that Darnald's going to play with Clint Kubiak. Now we should see some similar concepts. Kubiak worked with Darnald in twenty twenty three in San Francisco. That's when Kubiak was a forty nine Ers passing game coordinator. Now, I do think we might see a pretty run heavy offense, though, and there are plenty of question marks with that offensive line. My stance on Darnald is that mostly I'm not gonna be super optimistic for fantasy purposes for him individually.

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Speaker 2: There's no need to.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like a candidate who's going to go crazy from a touchdown rates standpoint, given the weapons, given that situation, and he's not gonna be someone who wins with his legs, not the same way that other mobile quarterbacks can. But I do think that he can keep his weapons afloat for fantasy purposes, which is what's most important here, And those weapons definitely are changing.

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Speaker 2: In Seattle.

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Speaker 1: There's no Tyler Lockett at least at the moment, and DK metcalf as I said he's a Steeler. Then the Seahawks they went out, they signed Cooper Cup and they also got Marquez Valdez Scantling. Now, the obvious question to ask is how these wide outs are going to be deployed, specifically Cooper Cupp and Jackson Smith and Jigba.

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Speaker 2: Cup has been a.

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Speaker 1: Slot player throughout his career, and it's probably asking a lot of him at thirty two years old to beat guys consistently on the outside. But JSN has had slot rates of sixty nine percent and eighty three percent over his two seasons in the league. Now, I've seen complaints from people on Twitter about this. I've seen what people are saying, how there's too much redundancy and I get that, but let's not dismiss Jackson Smith and Jigba's ability here. He was an elite prospect who won both inside and outside in college. He had a one point eight one yards per Roule run rate last year according to PFF, and that rate was one point nine to one out of the slot.

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Speaker 2: But that's also to be expected.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he was terrible when not in the slot, and from a fantasy perspective, we should expect jsn's average up to target to rise when he's not consistently in the slot. His aid out was not nine point two last year. That was better than his six point four to a dot from the year prior, but we should expect him to get down the field more. That can help mitigate a probable lower yards perrou run rate. But he's also in his third year. Like development happens with these players, they can get better, and Jackson Smith and Jigba is really good. So while I understand the weirdness of the Cup signing, I think it just tells us that the Seahawks are number one looking for a lot of movement at the line of scrimmage. That's what Clint Kubiak does but number two, they're gonna place JSN on the perimeter more than last year, and that might be okay at the end of the day. Now, as for Cooper Cup, yeah, I mean, it's tough to be overly excited given his injury history, given his age. He hasn't come close to a full season of games since twenty twenty one. But his per route run numbers, even though they've dipped the last couple of years, they're still actually pretty good. He had a one point nine to nine yards Perroule run rate last year. It was one point eighty six the year before that. Those are actually good numbers. They're just not nearly as good as where he was a couple of years before that. Now, I doubt that Cooper Cup is a league winning type player, but we should be able to see a decent number of looks out of the slot. It's not the best spot for him, but it's not the worst either. The Vikings re signed Aaron Jones, which is a little bit surprising given his age, but then they also went out and they traded for Jordan Mason. I think this backfield is pretty interesting. The Vikings don't have a lot of draft capital in this year's draft, So giving up a pick next year while moving down a handful of spots this year to get Mason, it actually makes a lot of sense. Minnesota likely did this because they knew that they couldn't spend one of those picks on a running back, And that's why this move is really intriguing to me. Like, I'm definitely of the belief that we usually need to sell late breakouts and sell running backs who seemingly come from nowhere nine times out of ten, honestly, more like forty eight times out of fifty. Those runs are not going to work out for you in the long run. But I've seen really split analysis on this Mason move when I actually have a pretty strong stance that Mason could see a decent amount of work right away. I mean, he's been really efficient since entering the league. But just look at last season when he saw more work. Mason ranked just outside the top ten in yards after contact per attempt.

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Speaker 2: He was about.

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Speaker 1: Average, maybe a little below average at gaining positive yards per rush, but he also ranked first among one hundred plus attempt rushers at gaining twenty or more yards. He was second among that same group at gaining ten or more yards now. A lot of rushing metrics, they don't stick around year over year. They're not that sticky. But what's good with Mason is that we've at least seen glimpses of this big playability and limited action. Even before last year, it wasn't as good as twenty twenty four, but he's been efficient with the ball in his hands. And think about the situation that he's walking into again. The Vikings don't have a lot of draft capital. Maybe they go in the direction, maybe they pick up another running back, but I think there's a chance that they're not massively impacted by this draft class. And then there's Aaron Jones who's thirty years old. That's Jordan Mason's biggest competition. To me, I think there's a very real chance we see a one A, one B type backfield. Aaron Jones would be.

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Speaker 2: The one A.

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Speaker 1: He sees more receiving work, but Mason could end up being a flex play with upside because if Aaron Jones goes down, Mason could step in and see more work. But even last season, Jones had just six games where his running back rush here was over sixty two percent. He's always been someone who wins in fantasy with his receiving.

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Speaker 2: Just be aware that I don't think that this.

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Speaker 1: Would turn into a situation where Jordan Mason becomes a true league winning player. You know how important receiving work is at running back, and you know I'm a sucker for it. Mason has never been a pass catcher in the NFL. He has eighteen career targets, and that's also why he's a decent compliment to air Aaron Jones and why this move makes a ton of sense. Aaron Jones has been one of the most underrated pass catchers in the NFL since he entered the league, and if Jones goes down, Mason probably won't see a fifteen percent target share out of that backfield. A six percent, seven percent one sure could be an RB two definitely, So don't sleep on this move. In totality, I think that Jordan Mason is gonna get some work in this backfield, and Aaron Jones residing with Minnesota, He's still gonna be plenty fantasy relevant. Now, when writing up my notes for this episode, I realize that I don't think I've given any take on Deebo Samuel going to the Commanders so let's talk about that wide receiver was an obvious need for the Commanders. They really only had Terry McLaurin as a reliable option at pass catcher last year. Hypothetically, Deebo should help. No. I say hypothetically because I just don't know how much Deebo Samuel has left.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting when looking at what Deebo Samuel's done, he really wasn't that strong. The year after his big breakout, He finished wide receiver twenty seven in PPR points per game. His per route run numbers, they really fell, but then he bounced back in twenty twenty three, but then he fell backwards in twenty twenty four. He averages ten point two PPR points per game last year. The difference between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four was that at least in twenty twenty two, he was seeing.

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Speaker 2: A high targets per route run rate.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he was getting beat by his teammates when it came to generating targets basically his yards per route run Last year it was one point six, the lowest of his career, but it was kind of in line with what we saw two years prior at one point sixty nine. The difference though, that year he saw target on twenty five percent of his routes run. Last year it was only nineteen percent, which was also the lowest of his career. The other thing that Diebo as working against him is just plain old history. I looked at every wide receiver season since twenty eleven where the wide out was in his seventh year in the league or later. I then filtered to look at only the wide outs who scored fourteen or more PPER points per game that year, which is like a wide receiver two season. So we're talking about sealing here more than anything.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I was curious what did those players do the previous season. My thought was that if there was no drop off the previous year and PPR points per game, then they'd have an easier time sustaining that production because the talent dropoff also might not have hit yet.

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Speaker 2: Well, some of these older.

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Speaker 1: Wideouts didn't play eight or more games the previous season, so I just removed them from the data set. But that still left me with over eighty wide receivers. So again, these are eighty wide receivers who were in their seventh year or later, which is what Deebo Samuel's entering who scored fourteen or more PPER points per game in that season, in that older season, and they played at least eight games the previous year. Now, of those eighty, only three of them had a worse PPO points per game average in their previous season than Deebo Samuel. It was Brandon Cooks in twenty twenty, Emmanuel Sanders in twenty eighteen, and Michael Crabtree in twenty fifteen. Now, what's kind of interesting is that Michael Crabtree and Brandon Cooks they did switch teams before seeing that jump in PPR points per game. That's definitely not a bad thing for Debo, But I wouldn't say his odds are super high for creating a wide receiver two season or better this year. From an offensive fit perspective, in this Cliff Kingsbury offense, I actually don't mind it at all.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll scheme up some lower aid DOT looks for Samuel that honestly might make him relevant enough in fantasy. But I do have concerns about the ceiling, and I have concerns this is a better real football move than fantasy one. From a usage and effectiveness standpoint. Not a whole lot changed for Evan Ingram last year, which seems crazy because he wasn't that good in Fantasy football. Ingram average fewer than ten pper points per game. He was at thirteen point six the year prior, but his year over the year yards per out run went from one point five to six to one point five to one. His targets per out run actually increased in twenty twenty four. His target chair was nearly identical. He was less effective after the catch. He actually had his lowest YAK per catch of his career last year, but I'm not sure that's something that we can definitively point to and say that Evan Ingram is toast. Ingram has always been a lower a dop player who can make guys miss with the ball in his hands, and I think he found the perfect landing spot and going to Denver, Sean Payton has his joker role in his offense, and he often references and that joker comes in the form of a running back or a tight end. Usually it's an interior player with great pass catching ability. We've seen guys like Alvin Kamara, Darren Sproles, Jimmy Graham. They've played that joker role in that offense in the past, and Evan Ingram is likely stepping into that role at least right now next season. When Sean Payton talked to Kay Adams back in February, she asked him about team needs and he said that it was a must for Denver to get that joker this offseason. He actually noted that he felt better than most about the team's wide receivers, and then when Ingram signed in Denver, he went to Twitter and he posted a gift of the joker. Now, this doesn't mean that Ingram is gonna be some fantasy football stud, but I'm intrigued by the fit. Denver currently doesn't have a ton of firepower in the middle of the field, including their running backs and the pass catching ability there we're looking at like Devon Velay and Julia McLoughlin. They're a candidate to add to their backfield one hundred percent. We should expect that during the draft. But Ingram has a legit shot to see a high target chair in this offense next year.

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Speaker 2: And all the while, don't forget about Brenton Strange.

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Speaker 1: He's now sitting atop the JAG's depth chart, and he's shown some ability in the past when Ingram's been sidelined. I think Ingram being released and going to Denver was a really good thing for fantasy football all around. Now, the final player that I want to get to today DeVante Adams. The Rams lose Cooper Cup, but they upgrade the position by moving to Adams. And I say upgrade because Adams, despite being in year twelve, hasn't really shown any signs of stopping. He had a yards prough out run rate last year that was above two. That was during his time in New York, and he dominated down the stretch, averaging twenty three point eight PPERO points per game across his final five games.

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Speaker 2: I love this move by the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Adams can play all over the field, and having another elite target with Pooka Akua is clearly going to help the passing attack. Now from a fantasy perspective, I've seen some takes about the target share ceiling for Adams with Niakua in that offense, but I think it's really important to remember how often Sean mcvay's teams target wide receivers. This isn't just an eleven personnel thing. Either there's always been a lack of running back targets in that Sean McVay offense, and tight ends haven't been.

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Speaker 2: Super useful either.

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Speaker 1: But over their last six seasons, the Rams have rung thirty second, thirty second, thirty first, thirty second, thirtieth, and thirty second, and running back target share during that same time frame, at tight end they've been twenty eighth, twenty eighth, ninth, twenty eighth, fourteenth, and seventh. Meanwhile, their wide receiver target shairs have been first, first, fourth, first, eighth, and sixth. This is basically in the post Todd Gurley era. Just mathematically, when targets aren't going to certain positions, that means they are going to the other ones. A target share pie is one hundred percent. If a lower proportion is going to running backs and tight ends, that means that more are going to wide receivers. And you can certainly say that that's personnel driven, but look at the Rams roster. You still have wide receiver as by far the number one target in that offense. Given the talent that they have, I think there's a very real chance that we see a fifty percent target share between Pooka and Akua and DeVante Adams. Next year, we may see a little week to week volatility based on matchup and who Matthew Stafford is into that day. We saw that a little bit with Kup and Nakua. But to me, this is not Alan Robinson all over again, where the fantasy community pushed him up draft boards. He was a wide receiver two and he busted with the Rams before.

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Speaker 2: Joining the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Robinson had a horrific season with the Bears that we tried to explain away with cornerback playing offensive system. That's not happening with Adams. To me, he's probably gonna end up like a low end wide receiver one entering the season. Now it's still March. I haven't done my projections of just eyeballing things, but as that offense stands right now, not only can Adams just finish as a fringe wide receiver one even with a healthy Pookin Akua, but what if Pookin Akua is out. That's where we're gonna see crazy upside for Devonte Adams in that Rams offense. Now, there are, of course, plenty of other moves that happened over the last week that I could have talked about today, Rico Dwell backing up Trueba Hubbard, the Cowboys backfield, Chris Godwin returning to Tampa Bay. I know there's more. You guys can feel free to ask me about those players on any future Mailbag episode.

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Speaker 2: I just really wanted to dig into the.

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Speaker 1: Bigger moves today to talk through what we can expect in fantasy football moving forward. I hope you learned something, because I know that I did while doing some of this research. That's it for today's show, though, Thanks all of you for listening. If you had subscribe to the Late Round Fantasy Football podcast, make sure you are by Shirting Forward pretty much anywhere podcasts can be found. It'll follow me on Twitter and on Blue Sky at Late Round QB. Thanks for listening everyone. I got a great Late Round Perspective's guest later this week. Really excited about that. I'll talk to you then