Mailbag #239: In-Person SmackDown/Raw Notes, Early SummerSlam Thoughts, Jade's Lack of Reaction

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's jump into it. Let's hear what you guys
<v Speaker 2>have to say. I know that we do have a
<v Speaker 2>few emails. Again, why variety, as I kind of teas
<v Speaker 2>at the open. Let's start with the patrons though, because
<v Speaker 2>they get priority. We're gonna start with Matt and Matt Bee.
<v Speaker 2>He says, I just wanted to email in and give
<v Speaker 2>you an in person review of Ron SmackDown that was
<v Speaker 2>in Pittsburgh this week. Raw was live, then they taped
<v Speaker 2>SmackDown right after, and I must say they were both
<v Speaker 2>good shows in my opinion. Crowd was pretty hot, but
<v Speaker 2>Raw definitely cooled down for SmackDown. It had its moments,
<v Speaker 2>but after four hours, yes, four hours of wrestling, it's
<v Speaker 2>expected to cool down. Lots of families there with kids,
<v Speaker 2>Jay and Punk I think got the biggest pops. A
<v Speaker 2>ton of j and Cody's shirts, but also Stone Cold
<v Speaker 2>shirts were everywhere. Overall, I think the shows were really good.
<v Speaker 2>I won't give any spoilers to SmackDown, but there were
<v Speaker 2>two returns that were pretty unexpected. Sorry again about the
<v Speaker 2>long email I have and have a good Fourth of
<v Speaker 2>July weekend. Yeah, thank you, Matt, and I have not
<v Speaker 2>seen SmackDown. It is airing as we speak. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on, but I will find out who returned,
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, that's that's to be expected. So the lackluster
<v Speaker 2>crowd reaction that we're gonna hear in Pittsburgh is I mean,
<v Speaker 2>that's that's good to know you because sometimes a lot
<v Speaker 2>of us don't know that it's taped ahead of time,
<v Speaker 2>and it's obviously smart on a holiday, so that's totally excusable.
<v Speaker 2>So if the crowd isn't exactly hot, I will totally
<v Speaker 2>forgive you guys for your lack of enthusiasm after four hours.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's just too much. It's too much.
<v Speaker 2>But that's cool. Thank you if the tease, and thank
<v Speaker 2>if the notes there and the fact that they're still
<v Speaker 2>selling Stone Cold T shirts or people are wearing stone
<v Speaker 2>Cold T shirts and Austin has not been in a
<v Speaker 2>wrestling ring again. I know WrestleMania thirty eight was a
<v Speaker 2>return match, but it wasn't a long build. It wasn't
<v Speaker 2>build as a return match. You didn't have a long run.
<v Speaker 2>So in all tenpsive purposes, his last real full time
<v Speaker 2>match was WrestleMania nineteen when he wrestled against the Rock,
<v Speaker 2>and he still has this impact today twenty years later.
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible, absolutely incredible. So but thank you for that.
<v Speaker 2>And lots of families there with kids. That's to be
<v Speaker 2>expected to with these TV tapings, less so with the
<v Speaker 2>plus because Stuck's too expensive for most people to afford.
<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks so much for the notes, and let's
<v Speaker 2>go to the next patron.
<v Speaker 4>I believe.
<v Speaker 2>DJ. He says after watching Knight of Champions, it's kind
<v Speaker 2>of insane to see that the bloodline in twenty twenty five,
<v Speaker 2>in this new iteration, it still continues without Roman, Jay
<v Speaker 2>and Jimmy. However, not to spoil the next episode of SmackDown,
<v Speaker 2>but there are some familiar faces to come to the
<v Speaker 2>a of Jacob Fatu. Well, there you go for a
<v Speaker 2>teaser speaking of Jacob Fatu, although by the time you
<v Speaker 2>guys hear this, it SmackDown has already aired, so it's
<v Speaker 2>not really a spoiler. I'm not recording this, you know,
<v Speaker 2>this isn't a live stream. But speaking of Jacobatu dropping
<v Speaker 2>the US title the Solo, I was absolutely surprised because
<v Speaker 2>I assume that Jacob is going to retain after recently
<v Speaker 2>winning the title at Wrestle mainy forty one. However, Solo
<v Speaker 2>winning this title, even though it is a mid card title,
<v Speaker 2>could be a big boost for his career because Solo
<v Speaker 2>has had a lot of losses stepping back from when
<v Speaker 2>he got pinned by twenty by Cody Roads in early
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three and Monday Night Raw. Anyway, I hope
<v Speaker 2>that's not the case for Fatu, but at this point,
<v Speaker 2>with the loss to Solo and Solo's army adding members
<v Speaker 2>with guys like Talatanga and the infamous Tongaloa, Jacob will
<v Speaker 2>need help. I think at SummerSlam there will be some
<v Speaker 2>sort of bloodline rules match for the United States Championship.
<v Speaker 2>But at Summer Slam there will be some sort of
<v Speaker 2>But the question is is Jacob FA two going to
<v Speaker 2>regain or to Solo retain because looking farther ahead to
<v Speaker 2>Suber a Survivors series in San Diego, I like that
<v Speaker 2>this current storyline could lead to a Team Jacob versus
<v Speaker 2>Team Solo in a possible five on five Wargames bloodline
<v Speaker 2>rules match, with a returning Tomatanga to join Solo. But
<v Speaker 2>then yet again, Jacoba two will need help. Yeah, lots
<v Speaker 2>of moving parts here, I will say, by the way,
<v Speaker 2>because I apologize. If you can hear the bangs, maybe
<v Speaker 2>you can't. I can hear them better than you Probably
<v Speaker 2>can hear that. Maybe maybe not, depends how it's coming
<v Speaker 2>through in the micro fireworks outside. So that's what's popping
<v Speaker 2>in the background. Uh, that's very possible Jacoba two and
<v Speaker 2>Solo in a five on five again another bloodline in
<v Speaker 2>another Survivor series wargames match. Totally possible. Is anybody though,
<v Speaker 2>getting bored of the blood line. I know that they
<v Speaker 2>keep keep mutating it, but it's kind of it is
<v Speaker 2>like a virus that you can't seem to kill, and
<v Speaker 2>every time you come up with a vaccine for it,
<v Speaker 2>it mutates and you don't know how to stop it
<v Speaker 2>from continuing. I liken it to a virus, partially because
<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of the bloodline. I don't care how they
<v Speaker 2>kind of mutate it anymore. I just don't. I'm tired
<v Speaker 2>of it. I'm tired of it being the centerpiece of SmackDown.
<v Speaker 2>There is a part of me that feels that way,
<v Speaker 2>probably about half of me feels that way that I
<v Speaker 2>don't even care who joins anymore. I don't care if
<v Speaker 2>the entire family rises, the Samoan bloodline family rises from
<v Speaker 2>the grave and joins, if they're able to be resurrected
<v Speaker 2>and Roman reigns is on one side, I don't care.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just part of me is really feeling
<v Speaker 2>that way. That doesn't nothing really affects me. There's no
<v Speaker 2>big surprises anymore, and even if there is, it's kind
<v Speaker 2>of like, oh well, it's still entangled in this bloodline
<v Speaker 2>story that just won't die. I feel like, no matter
<v Speaker 2>how yes they keep kind of they keep able. They're
<v Speaker 2>able to adapt and bring new people in and change
<v Speaker 2>the story. And I appreciate that, and they're trying to
<v Speaker 2>get everything out of this bloodline story that they can.
<v Speaker 2>But it's been going on for five years now and
<v Speaker 2>it just won't stop. All right. So that's the part
<v Speaker 2>of me that wants to complain and say enough please,
<v Speaker 2>I surrender. I'm waving the white flag. The other part
<v Speaker 2>of me is feeling okay, cool. This is giving guys
<v Speaker 2>like Talatanga Tangaloa Jacob Fatu a great platform to jumpstart
<v Speaker 2>their careers that they otherwise might not have gotten. So
<v Speaker 2>there is that, and it's it's I get it, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm here for the star building process a lot of fans.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying I'm better than any fan. I
<v Speaker 2>just I've become numb too and can appreciate the star
<v Speaker 2>building process. Not everyone needs to be a big star
<v Speaker 2>all the time to hold my interest. And you'll see
<v Speaker 2>those fans come in around Royal Rumble time, Russel anytime,
<v Speaker 2>where all they want to know is, oh my God,
<v Speaker 2>is take her coming back? Is Austin coming back? Is
<v Speaker 2>the rock showing up? All they know are the household
<v Speaker 2>names that they want to be able to see at WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 2>you know, or the big pls or if it somehow
<v Speaker 2>pops into mainstream culture, if something happens, they'll, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll peek in and go, what's going on? What's
<v Speaker 2>going on guys, huh, and then they'll go back out
<v Speaker 2>and do obscurity. But from a lot of us hardcore fans,
<v Speaker 2>we are more passionate. I don't care about the label.
<v Speaker 2>We appreciate this process. We can appreciate what the bloodline
<v Speaker 2>is providing for new talent. It's a it's a perfect
<v Speaker 2>place for them to springboard. So all right, anyway, one
<v Speaker 2>final thing to mention about Knight of Champions. Jade Cargill
<v Speaker 2>winning the Queen of the Ring Finals against Oscar was
<v Speaker 2>not thrilling. She didn't get a pop from the crowd.
<v Speaker 2>The crowd was absolutely silent during her post match celebration
<v Speaker 2>and her interview with Byron. In my opinion, Jade's postmatch
<v Speaker 2>promo was confusing, and then she said and then when
<v Speaker 2>she said quote a storm is coming for SummerSlam, that
<v Speaker 2>part sounded so cheesy and weak to me. It's like
<v Speaker 2>she did not believe her in her promo. And at SummerSlam,
<v Speaker 2>it looks like Naomi is going to cash in at
<v Speaker 2>her money in the bank contract and the match of
<v Speaker 2>Jade versus Tiffany turns into a triple threat and Naomi
<v Speaker 2>wins the title. Jade in year two and WWE still
<v Speaker 2>needs more work, especially with her promos. Plus, Jade all
<v Speaker 2>along has given off quote a sense of entitlement when
<v Speaker 2>she first arrived in WWE almost two years ago. She's
<v Speaker 2>not getting that full crowd support because one, she gives
<v Speaker 2>off that I'm better than you vibe, which turns the
<v Speaker 2>majority of the WW crowd off. And two, wwwe never
<v Speaker 2>took the time to build a backstory about her as
<v Speaker 2>to why the fans should emotionally invest in her. Jade
<v Speaker 2>in the WW creative have a lot of work to
<v Speaker 2>do to help Jade get over with the majority of fans.
<v Speaker 2>And one final thing that still bothers me about Jade
<v Speaker 2>and the company is that I don't understand why WWE
<v Speaker 2>did not let Jades start in NXT like they did
<v Speaker 2>with Julia and Stephanie Viccor because having j start an
<v Speaker 2>NXT for at least two to three years would have
<v Speaker 2>given her a basic in ringing experience in wrestling and
<v Speaker 2>cutting promos in WWE. DG cuzmos signing off thank you DJ, Well, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you mean you've pick up some great points. I mean
<v Speaker 2>I've hammered home the fact that there's no emotional connection,
<v Speaker 2>which is what's causing the lack of reaction that she
<v Speaker 2>feels entitled to simply because of her look. And let's
<v Speaker 2>be honest, if you were able to put true serum
<v Speaker 2>in her and not have her be able to think
<v Speaker 2>of an answer that doesn't make it look like she's
<v Speaker 2>extremely narcissistic, she would tell you, no, I should be
<v Speaker 2>getting this reaction. I mean, look at me. That's what
<v Speaker 2>she would want to say. That's what her brain wants
<v Speaker 2>to say, you know it, because that's all she's leaned on.
<v Speaker 2>At the same time, and I continue to say that
<v Speaker 2>she has improved generally in the ring enough to the
<v Speaker 2>point where we should feel like she's ready for to
<v Speaker 2>hold a championship. No, she's not there yet, And that's
<v Speaker 2>what the fans are telling her. Hey, Jade, like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>we get it. You look like you know, you're created
<v Speaker 2>from wrestling gods and goddesses. We understand that. And that's
<v Speaker 2>it's great. You look the part, but you don't feel
<v Speaker 2>the part. You don't play the part well, right, So
<v Speaker 2>you look on the outside like you could move mountains
<v Speaker 2>and be sculpted out of stone all of that, and
<v Speaker 2>that's incredible and that's wonderful, But boy, that does not
<v Speaker 2>that in and of itself has never and will never
<v Speaker 2>ever pull out the heartstrings of fans. Ever. You can
<v Speaker 2>sit there and say, oh my gosh, or what did
<v Speaker 2>she say in her tweet on X What did she say?
<v Speaker 2>Something like?
<v Speaker 5>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>She said quote like wow, Yeah, we're thinking the same thing, Jade.
<v Speaker 2>We're thinking the same thing about you. Can we get
<v Speaker 2>a little backstory? And that's uncreative. But if I were Jade,
<v Speaker 2>I'd be pushing it too, and she does. She inherently
<v Speaker 2>gives off the on better than you vibe. And if
<v Speaker 2>all she says is her tagline, I mean I could
<v Speaker 2>do that. That's not an acquired skill. We know what
<v Speaker 2>your tagline is. A storm is coming. You got a
<v Speaker 2>great entrance. I like your I actually really enjoy your entrance.
<v Speaker 2>I really like her music. She's got that going for
<v Speaker 2>her too. But see, all of these are superficial. All
<v Speaker 2>of these are things that should trigger your mind to
<v Speaker 2>cheer for somebody that you authentically can relate to. That's
<v Speaker 2>what she's missing, that's what the company's missing. And it's
<v Speaker 2>clear she's not good at promos unless there's something we're
<v Speaker 2>hiding or that they're hiding, and they just they're gonna
<v Speaker 2>spring it on us, but I doubt it. So, yeah, Jade,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving up on her. But I mean, Naomi's
<v Speaker 2>light years ahead of her light years I mean Naomi
<v Speaker 2>I may not you know, some things in the Ring
<v Speaker 2>she's done, like I'm glad she changed her rear view finished,
<v Speaker 2>thank god, and now Oscar has adopted it. But nonetheless,
<v Speaker 2>Naomi has just clicked into her promos just I mean
<v Speaker 2>her look, she's been rebirthed. That's what Jade needs. She
<v Speaker 2>needs to stop thinking about her taglines and how she's
<v Speaker 2>looking on camera and just go out there and try
<v Speaker 2>to pull some part of her real personality onto the
<v Speaker 2>show and magnify it because then you don't have to
<v Speaker 2>try to act, you just are yourself. That's what she
<v Speaker 2>needs to do. And this is not you know, this
<v Speaker 2>is not rocket science. When it comes to what needs
<v Speaker 2>to be done, is it easy? No, Simple and easy
<v Speaker 2>are two different things. What's simple isn't always easy. So
<v Speaker 2>you know that's what she needs. We all know it.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, DJ. Well, let's go to let's see Dino.
<v Speaker 2>Dino has been a while, my friend, he says at
<v Speaker 2>seven am here in Scotland on July fourth. Here is
<v Speaker 2>the earliest correct prediction you'll ever hear. Sammy Zaye will
<v Speaker 2>win the twenty twenty six Royal Rumble. You heard it
<v Speaker 2>here first, Dino. That is a very good prediction. I
<v Speaker 2>haven't even actually thought about the Rumble yet. What are
<v Speaker 2>we is the Rumble in February this year, which is
<v Speaker 2>just again it's sacrilegious to me. I whatever it is,
<v Speaker 2>we're almost halfway to the Rumble again. I think he
<v Speaker 2>is in the top three of contenders if I'm being honest, Yes,
<v Speaker 2>it is. I mean, again, we don't know the landscape
<v Speaker 2>of the company in the next few months to start
<v Speaker 2>to think about it. I mean, who's champion is when
<v Speaker 2>Sina drops his title in mid December, if he holds
<v Speaker 2>it that long, who does he drop a two? And
<v Speaker 2>are there injuries that are unforeseen? All of that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>But if all holds true, sam He's in is absolutely
<v Speaker 2>a top contender. Yes, I mean they're laying the foundation
<v Speaker 2>work now. They're laying the foundational work with all these
<v Speaker 2>people telling him you'll ever be champion, Yes, you will
<v Speaker 2>be champion, No, you won't be champion. They are laying
<v Speaker 2>it right now for the underdog from the underground to
<v Speaker 2>come out and win the twenty twenty six World Rumble.
<v Speaker 2>I think, if done right, the fans will really be
<v Speaker 2>behind this and support this and believe this. Jay Uso
<v Speaker 2>winning last year, I know a lot of people supported it,
<v Speaker 2>but there were a subset of fans, including myself, that
<v Speaker 2>just felt it didn't feel right. We understood why, yes,
<v Speaker 2>he's over, but it felt like he was over in
<v Speaker 2>a way. How do I describe this? So there's being
<v Speaker 2>being over as again, this is a fan speaking, So
<v Speaker 2>what do I know. I've never been in a wrestling ring.
<v Speaker 2>According to Triple H, I shouldn't have an opinion, but
<v Speaker 2>at least a preapproved one. I feel that being over
<v Speaker 2>with the crowd doesn't always mean that the crowd is
<v Speaker 2>ready to accept you as champion. There's and I can't
<v Speaker 2>eloquently put it into words, where Jay has always been
<v Speaker 2>over with the fans. They have been with him with
<v Speaker 2>the crowd reactions and the yeat and the arm movements,
<v Speaker 2>and he's coming through the crowd all of that. But
<v Speaker 2>just because you're over to that level doesn't mean that
<v Speaker 2>it's it's super deep, like fans can still really enjoy
<v Speaker 2>being with you, being a part of your entrance saying yeat.
<v Speaker 2>So it's almost like a participatory connection, like you do this,
<v Speaker 2>we do that. You've got a lot of high energy,
<v Speaker 2>you're fun. But when you get beyond all of that,
<v Speaker 2>do fans really care? And can can they actually see
<v Speaker 2>you being a champion? Do you feel like a champion
<v Speaker 2>to fans before you get the belt? The answer for
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fans is no, And it ended up
<v Speaker 2>panning out where Jay didn't feel I mean, ww management
<v Speaker 2>something felt clearly felt the same way when they corrected
<v Speaker 2>course by giving Gun through the belt back. So Sammy
<v Speaker 2>winning next year With the connection that Jay and Sammy have,
<v Speaker 2>maybe Jay and Sammy are the last two next year? Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>maybe they are? Okay, good to hear from you. Do
<v Speaker 2>you know been a while or as the kid say,
<v Speaker 2>been a hot minute? All right, let's go to Steven
<v Speaker 2>Stevie g and he says, I thought it was noteworthy
<v Speaker 2>that Cody made comments about the finish from SummerSlam after
<v Speaker 2>acknowledging the horrible WrestleMania finish. If I can make a prediction,
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like the groundwork for seeing his
<v Speaker 2>baby face turn is little by little getting laid out,
<v Speaker 2>and I almost feel like Cody is turning heel on
<v Speaker 2>the horizon and it needs to happen. I feel that
<v Speaker 2>I got that Rock will have some sort of involvement
<v Speaker 2>based on the statements Cody made. I'm not sure how
<v Speaker 2>they would do it, but I predict Cody takes the
<v Speaker 2>belt in a heelish fashion and Sina will lose the belt.
<v Speaker 2>I think that losing to Cody will also set up
<v Speaker 2>Sena and The Rock going head to head at a
<v Speaker 2>pl in another Last Match ever fashion. All right, so
<v Speaker 2>before I continue, you've only got another quick thought, but
<v Speaker 2>I want to respond to this first. Cody has talked
<v Speaker 2>about the acknowledgment of yeah, the WrestleMania sucked, you know,
<v Speaker 2>not of course in a not in a corporate suit
<v Speaker 2>way that he the way he speaks, but yeah, he
<v Speaker 2>is so much pretty much acknowledged. Yeah, I wasn't a
<v Speaker 2>great finish, and you know, my bad hour bad. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we'll do better, and we got a mulligan coming up
<v Speaker 2>at summerslat and I hope they like. Look, I'm fine
<v Speaker 2>with if The Rock wants to come out and they
<v Speaker 2>want to do what should have happened at WrestleMania by
<v Speaker 2>all means, Doug have at it. It's not going to
<v Speaker 2>change the fact that you guys done ft up in
<v Speaker 2>the biggest spot in the biggest WrestleMania of all time
<v Speaker 2>according to them. But again, every WrestleMania is the biggest
<v Speaker 2>WrestleMania of all time until the next WrestleMania, which is
<v Speaker 2>the biggest WrestleMania of all time. Yeah, of course, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know how they measure big, probably by dollars and
<v Speaker 2>cents these days, but this is certainly possible. Stevie, this
<v Speaker 2>is definitely possible. And Seena's look Sina's turning baby face
<v Speaker 2>no matter what, they could do whatever they want. John
<v Speaker 2>Cena could end up unaliving people's grandmothers on a weekly basis.
<v Speaker 2>He could turn it into a segment un raw where
<v Speaker 2>he you know, he takes the person you're with, say
<v Speaker 2>you're with a family member and he unlives them in
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the ring and you're standing there, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, eventually people would not care. I mean, just
<v Speaker 2>it's an extreme, just dramatic, ridiculous example. But my point
<v Speaker 2>about all this is like people aren't gonna care once
<v Speaker 2>they get to really it's already starting to happen now,
<v Speaker 2>and with how good Sena is at promos, which we
<v Speaker 2>saw in his reverse pipe bomb promo on Punk that
<v Speaker 2>was just outstanding. People are just realizing, I don't care
<v Speaker 2>what you say, what you do, We're gonna see through it.
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead and run us down, Run our city down,
<v Speaker 2>run our sports team down. Check off all the typical
<v Speaker 2>the boxes of being a healed to get heat, cheer
<v Speaker 2>for the opposing you hated rival sports team, wear their
<v Speaker 2>jersey when you come out, talk about how we're spoiled
<v Speaker 2>and we're in an abusive relationship. What I don't care.
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, go down the list. People aren't going
<v Speaker 2>to care because they have realized John Cena has fifteen
<v Speaker 2>dates left, and if I'm in a city where he's at,
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what he says or does. We're here
<v Speaker 2>because we can appreciate him being here, and the fourth
<v Speaker 2>wall is broken and it should be people should just
<v Speaker 2>appreciate John Cena. Now, if you want to go there
<v Speaker 2>and boom, by all means, but I think it organically
<v Speaker 2>will happen because we're human beings and the reality is
<v Speaker 2>starting to set in that John Cena is leaving and
<v Speaker 2>leaving for good. He's not here on a kind of
<v Speaker 2>half ass retirement to it. No, he's done after middle December.
<v Speaker 2>He's just stated it that his final match is in
<v Speaker 2>mid December, not the end of December, mid December, whatever
<v Speaker 2>that means. I looked at the Ple schedule. There's like
<v Speaker 2>a Saturday night main event that's to be determined squeezed
<v Speaker 2>in there. There's an NXT event that's squeezed in there.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's called what's the NXT event called? I
<v Speaker 2>can't remember, but there's an NXT event. But there's no
<v Speaker 2>big pl in December. Let's they want to make a
<v Speaker 2>December to remember, But I don't think they'll go there.
<v Speaker 2>I just really believe that there's nothing they can do,
<v Speaker 2>and they can do whatever they want to keep him heal,
<v Speaker 2>but it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.
<v Speaker 2>They don't even need to set the table for him
<v Speaker 2>to turn baby face. It's going to happen no matter what.
<v Speaker 2>And his photos. As far as Cody turning heel, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I've been on that boat for years. He literally years
<v Speaker 2>that he is made to be a heel. His mannerisms,
<v Speaker 2>his outfits, just the way he speaks, everything, the dude's
<v Speaker 2>a heel. He I mean, even the Undertaker season and
<v Speaker 2>has said it as such that his best days are
<v Speaker 2>going to be as a heel. And you know, time
<v Speaker 2>will tell. But everything about him screams heel. Everything from
<v Speaker 2>the stupid blonde hair and and you know his tappered
<v Speaker 2>tapered suits and his you know, the way he speaks,
<v Speaker 2>and he's so self satisfied and he's always trying to
<v Speaker 2>play the good guy to a to a point of nauseum.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the dude is just he's a heel. You
<v Speaker 2>take his music out and I think he could turn heel,
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. So your scenario though, the Rock
<v Speaker 2>comes back and Cody turns heel, I mean, what is
<v Speaker 2>Cody gonna sell his soul to the Rock? Was this
<v Speaker 2>all the russ with Cody and the Rock? I mean,
<v Speaker 2>then it gets just preposterous. So I don't know how
<v Speaker 2>exactly that it happens. But okay, last point here. Also,
<v Speaker 2>as I write this email, I found myself laughing at
<v Speaker 2>your tangent about Jade during the Raw review, and you're
<v Speaker 2>noting that she wasn't even on Raw. You do tend
<v Speaker 2>to go off the rails, but you always have a
<v Speaker 2>lot of great points, which is why I listen you
<v Speaker 2>and the gang do a great ship. Well, thank you, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>thank you, and happy fourth to you as well, Stevie.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I go off the rails. I how you
<v Speaker 2>guys are getting an inside look for better or worse,
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times worse into my brain. I really
<v Speaker 2>try to stay on task. I try, but I just
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I just go way off and then I just
<v Speaker 2>go down this rabbit hole and I have to remember
<v Speaker 2>what the hell was I even talking about. But I
<v Speaker 2>think wrestling is inherently like that, because there are so
<v Speaker 2>many scenarios that could play out that you go down
<v Speaker 2>a rabbit hole of one of a million, and then
<v Speaker 2>you forget what road you're even on. That's wrestling though,
<v Speaker 2>you know, if this, then that, then that, then this,
<v Speaker 2>Well what if I did this and then try to
<v Speaker 2>tweak this, and what if we did this now but
<v Speaker 2>then later we do that? Like it's it's a topic
<v Speaker 2>that has infinite solutions, which is why I think it's
<v Speaker 2>difficult to stay on task. All right, thank you, Let's
<v Speaker 2>go to.
<v Speaker 6>One.
<v Speaker 2>I think this is my last email, and then we
<v Speaker 2>have a few voicemails that we will get to so
<v Speaker 2>let's oh, this is this is a good one suggestion
<v Speaker 2>on my show. So this one is from Scotty. He says,
<v Speaker 2>what's up, Matt. I hope you're having a good day.
<v Speaker 2>So I have something to get off my chest about
<v Speaker 2>the show, and I hope you don't take it the
<v Speaker 2>wrong way. I have a suggestion. Would it be possible
<v Speaker 2>to do a co host when you do reviews? Not
<v Speaker 2>to take anything away from you, you're doing a good job,
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like you go off topic and long
<v Speaker 2>rants that you've already talked about before. Complaining of WWE
<v Speaker 2>is fine. I have no problem with that, but it's
<v Speaker 2>when you talk about the same stuff multiple times, like
<v Speaker 2>Rock and Cody and Triple H and now Jade. I'm
<v Speaker 2>a fan of your show. I know I talked about
<v Speaker 2>this in the discord before and someone told me to
<v Speaker 2>watch a different podcast. O jeez, if I don't like it,
<v Speaker 2>that's like me telling you to watch a different wrestling
<v Speaker 2>show if I don't like it. If I don't like WWE,
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to give my opinion like you do with
<v Speaker 2>this podcast. If I have to look like the bad
<v Speaker 2>guy to post a negative mail bag, then that's fine.
<v Speaker 2>I'll be the heal. I want the show to be
<v Speaker 2>better and attract more listeners. That's my suggestion. And let
<v Speaker 2>me know what you think. Scott. You know absolutely, here's
<v Speaker 2>what I'm not going to say. I'm not gonna tell
<v Speaker 2>you listen to another show. You came to me very
<v Speaker 2>respectfully and said, look, here's something that I find annoying.
<v Speaker 2>Here's what you can do better. I can take criticism
<v Speaker 2>in a way that's done professionally and with a respect.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm no. I know some people are thinking I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, oh, you know, oh my god, then go
<v Speaker 2>watch No, I mean you can You're more the I mean,
<v Speaker 2>you do you bro. I mean, if I'm not your flavor,
<v Speaker 2>go to Wade Keller, go to Jason Powell. They're both great. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy both of them. I mean they're they're both. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>There are actually a lot of the reason I started
<v Speaker 2>doing this ten years ago. Uh So, you know, certainly
<v Speaker 2>there's options out there's a zillion wrestling podcast, but you
<v Speaker 2>know the big ones. We all know. We all you know,
<v Speaker 2>if you're if you're listening to this show, you probably
<v Speaker 2>listening to more than just this show. Right, You've got
<v Speaker 2>what is it bust it Open? They're I think one
<v Speaker 2>of the number one, number one, number two, they're they're
<v Speaker 2>huge bust it open. And I have mixed feelings on them,
<v Speaker 2>you know, nothing personal I I have mixed feelings on them.
<v Speaker 2>You know what did I see today? Was it something
<v Speaker 2>about Bubba Ray Dudley. He he's talking about I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>pull back the curtain a little bit about Gunther and Goldberg,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, dude, there's no curtain left. What do
<v Speaker 2>you mean You're going to pull back the curtain? He
<v Speaker 2>thinks he's being some guy. He's like revolutionary about pulling
<v Speaker 2>back the curtain on something when the product itself on
<v Speaker 2>a weekly basis pulls back the curtain and does it
<v Speaker 2>without shame. So there, I mean, hey, but I mean
<v Speaker 2>I really have nothing personally. They're very successful, very successful.
<v Speaker 2>But back to my point, I absolutely if you you know,
<v Speaker 2>if you think that that would help the show. And
<v Speaker 2>I've I used to do cost co hosted shows and
<v Speaker 2>it just was really tough with my schedule to coordinate,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it certainly would be a good thing
<v Speaker 2>to kind of mix it up and not just hear
<v Speaker 2>me rant for fifty minutes I get it. I get it,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm well aware too, you know that that bringing
<v Speaker 2>on another voice to talk with me would be a
<v Speaker 2>good thing. It absolutely would be. And then I keep
<v Speaker 2>trying to do video. It's here's the thing, Scottie, It's
<v Speaker 2>not a matter of will, it's a matter of time.
<v Speaker 2>And everybody seems these days pressed for time. Everybody's got
<v Speaker 2>their own life thrown I've got so what's going on?
<v Speaker 2>You don't even know. I've got this, I've got that,
<v Speaker 2>I've got this stress. I've got that stress. We all do.
<v Speaker 2>So I guess, you know, I don't really explain anybody.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've got kids, even if you don't, you
<v Speaker 2>have a you know a lot of people with busy lives,
<v Speaker 2>even if you don't have kids, Like, yeah, I understand,
<v Speaker 2>you know. And so it's really it's just a time thing.
<v Speaker 2>It's a time thing. And honestly, though, Scottie, I am
<v Speaker 2>trying to grow the show. But the hardest thing I've
<v Speaker 2>realized over the last several years is not actually creating
<v Speaker 2>the show editing it. That's time consuming. It's marketing because
<v Speaker 2>by the time you're done editing and you're posting it
<v Speaker 2>and you're exhausted. You're like, I don't want to promote
<v Speaker 2>this thing, so you just leave it out there and
<v Speaker 2>you're just like you kind of hope people somehow stumble
<v Speaker 2>on it, so you know, or you could pay to
<v Speaker 2>have it market it, but that gets expensive real quick.
<v Speaker 2>So the self marketing is also more time consuming. It's
<v Speaker 2>a matter of time, just time. And yeah, I appreciate it, though,
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate Scotty, no harm, no foul. I'm not gonna
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be nasty because no, you were very respectful.
<v Speaker 2>So okay, I encourage you to continue to listen. But
<v Speaker 2>I hear a loud and clear I don't disagree with you. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>if I were a listener of this show, I'd be
<v Speaker 2>thinking the same thing. All right, let's get to those voicemails,
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna start with Alex the French Guy as the.
<v Speaker 4>French guy here, your current European Champion. I'm not the
<v Speaker 4>biggest Cody Roads fan. Let's be honest. I'm not a
<v Speaker 4>fan of his character. I think sometimes he feels forced
<v Speaker 4>and his promo doesn't feel natural. But at night of Champion,
<v Speaker 4>just after the match against Randy Orton, you have a
<v Speaker 4>untaated a to the core, which could be what we
<v Speaker 4>are looking for in the Coding Roads character, cutting a
<v Speaker 4>good promo and after match promo, after facing Rainy Jorton,
<v Speaker 4>and I completely completely am with this side of his character.
<v Speaker 4>Let's hear it a little bit, not all of it,
<v Speaker 4>but the main part, what is the most important part
<v Speaker 4>for me.
<v Speaker 7>Completely get how you feel as an audience when I
<v Speaker 7>go up against these beloved characters, but I want you
<v Speaker 7>to hear it from me.
<v Speaker 8>I was born to do this.
<v Speaker 7>Whether it be Ceam Punk or John Cena, they are
<v Speaker 7>holding onto that belt for themselves and they are holding
<v Speaker 7>onto it for me because that Summer Slam, I get
<v Speaker 7>the ball back.
<v Speaker 4>You see. That's what I'm talking about about the Cody
<v Speaker 4>Rules character might as well be a baby thing face
<v Speaker 4>for at least one to two years, but might as
<v Speaker 4>well untend to fire yourself because when you see this
<v Speaker 4>cocky Cody Road singing that saying that he's born for this,
<v Speaker 4>you can see that he's thinking about this. He knows
<v Speaker 4>and he absolutely thinking what he's saying when he's saying
<v Speaker 4>I was born for this, with this cockiness, with the suits,
<v Speaker 4>with everything. Of course, you have the line that is
<v Speaker 4>very thin between a heel and a face character. So,
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, the Cody Roads character should definitely go
<v Speaker 4>to this route when doing the promo, when articulating the character,
<v Speaker 4>and especially with this tune of voice, that was absolutely great.
<v Speaker 4>You had a little bit of fatigue in the voice
<v Speaker 4>as well. That was really great.
<v Speaker 6>For once.
<v Speaker 4>I got to say that was a great let's say
<v Speaker 4>not promo because it was just about a minute or two,
<v Speaker 4>but it was great after match promo. Cody Woods should
<v Speaker 4>definitely incline into this character. That absolutely aligns within myself
<v Speaker 4>what I think is the real Cody World's character.
<v Speaker 2>Bye guys, Alex, So you and I different a little
<v Speaker 2>bit on this. Here's where I agree with you. The
<v Speaker 2>passion in his voice. We'll call it a promo because
<v Speaker 2>we'll just that's what we're gonna call it right now.
<v Speaker 2>He was very passionate. It came from a real place.
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing phony about that. I don't think this was
<v Speaker 2>really forced. So yeah, in him saying he was born
<v Speaker 2>for this, Yes, cool. I want to hear that. That's
<v Speaker 2>a good thing to hear as a babyface. That will
<v Speaker 2>get the crowd behind you. I can you know, I
<v Speaker 2>can relate to that. I can understand that. So that's great,
<v Speaker 2>and that's where you and I agree. The part of
<v Speaker 2>this that I don't agree with, and I've already hammered
<v Speaker 2>Cody on this in the post review, him calling the
<v Speaker 2>wrestlers beloved characters, because I mean, I don't mean to
<v Speaker 2>rehash it, but since you played it, I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to hear that they're beloved characters. Can he just call
<v Speaker 2>them competitors wrestlers? Are we really gonna say beloved characters?
<v Speaker 2>I know what he's saying, we know what he means.
<v Speaker 2>He's saying, Look, I'm a babyface going against other babyfaces.
<v Speaker 2>I know that that puts you guys in a weird position,
<v Speaker 2>but still love me and understand why I have to
<v Speaker 2>fight them. But don't call them beloved characters. That's the
<v Speaker 2>part that really set me off. I know this good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>I gave you the good stuff. This this spoiled the
<v Speaker 2>whole promo for me, though, because again it's it's pandering.
<v Speaker 2>It's like acknowledging. Hey, the thing is, if you felt
<v Speaker 2>strong enough in your character, you wouldn't even have to
<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that, you know what I mean, You wouldn't even
<v Speaker 2>have to if you were very confident that the fans
<v Speaker 2>would stick with you and wouldn't have to feel like
<v Speaker 2>they are a little bit like, oh man, we gotta
<v Speaker 2>choose sides. What do we do? Let's choose the guy
<v Speaker 2>that understands the position we're in. That's a sign of
<v Speaker 2>weakness in his character. I would argue, it's a little
<v Speaker 2>bit of I think, a little bit of self consciousness,
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a little bit of I think
<v Speaker 2>lack of confidence in his character to be able to
<v Speaker 2>go against these guys that he knows are coming down
<v Speaker 2>the line that are also mega babyfaces, and he's gonna
<v Speaker 2>have to beat them, and the crowd's gonna have to
<v Speaker 2>decide who they're gonna cheer for. If your character was
<v Speaker 2>that solid and you were that confident, you wouldn't even
<v Speaker 2>have to acknowledge this. It would just happen. So that's
<v Speaker 2>how I dissect and psychoanalyze this one. But anyway, no, Alex,
<v Speaker 2>I understand it. Totally get what you're saying. It's the
<v Speaker 2>first half of that promo that completely murdered anything else
<v Speaker 2>that happened after. I mean, it just it just sucked
<v Speaker 2>the life out of anything else that it could have taken.
<v Speaker 2>Positively out of it. All right, let's get to our
<v Speaker 2>next one.
<v Speaker 6>This is DJ colesmel Back added again on your mailback
<v Speaker 6>show records.
<v Speaker 2>You live on the Wednesday board, and you know what
<v Speaker 2>time it is.
<v Speaker 8>It's time to see his name. Man, he appears. I
<v Speaker 8>believe in Joe Hendry. I believe in Joe Hendry. That's right, folks,
<v Speaker 8>Joe Hendry is his name.
<v Speaker 6>As I take you to my fifty first episode of
<v Speaker 6>The Judger for and like always, coming to your life
<v Speaker 6>from an undisclosed location. Before we start today's show, I
<v Speaker 6>must mention two quick things. The first thing, in response
<v Speaker 6>to your coming mat about Joe Hendry not getting a
<v Speaker 6>loud pop on his recent appearance on NXT I have
<v Speaker 6>to view with you. I saw that clip a couple
<v Speaker 6>of times and it was very bizarre, very strange to
<v Speaker 6>me that Joe Hendry did not get a loud pop,
<v Speaker 6>especially the fact that this was his first return sends
<v Speaker 6>his loss to Trick Williams at NXC Battleground. He comes
<v Speaker 6>in on this episode, the music hits, but he comes
<v Speaker 6>from behind and attack Trick Williams. But yet there was
<v Speaker 6>not a loud pop for Joe Hendry.
<v Speaker 8>I don't know what was going on.
<v Speaker 6>Hopefully it was just for that episode, because it looks
<v Speaker 6>like Joe Henry will be on a couple of episodes
<v Speaker 6>on NXT as the road to his contraction rematch for
<v Speaker 6>TNAY Semer Versary continues. And let's talk about this updated
<v Speaker 6>card for TNA Summer Versary, which will be happening on Sunday,
<v Speaker 6>July twenty live from Elmont, New York and Long Island
<v Speaker 6>at the UBS Arena. So far, we have Joe Hendry
<v Speaker 6>versus Trick Williams for the TENAY World Championship.
<v Speaker 8>It is Joe.
<v Speaker 6>Hendry's contractual rematch. We also have Leon Slater versus Moose
<v Speaker 6>for the TNA Ex Division Championship. And also we now
<v Speaker 6>have a four way tag team ladder match for the
<v Speaker 6>TNA World Tag Team titles of the NEMA Brothers, which
<v Speaker 6>of course they are the tag team champions of Ryan
<v Speaker 6>and nickname It. We also have the Rascals of Trey
<v Speaker 6>Miguel and Zachary Winz. We also have the Hardy Boys
<v Speaker 6>of Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy and of course First
<v Speaker 6>Class of AJ Francis and K C. Navarro. All four
<v Speaker 6>of these tag teams are going to be in this
<v Speaker 6>ladder match. In my opinion, I believe that the favorite
<v Speaker 6>is the Rascals of Trey, Miguel and Zebra wins to
<v Speaker 6>become the new TNA World Tag Team Champions. Now, let's
<v Speaker 6>take it back to a TV tapping from TV for
<v Speaker 6>Wrestling from last week as they were in Pittsburgh. We
<v Speaker 6>had Joe Hendry as he thanks the crowd for their
<v Speaker 6>support during this tough time for him and for TNA.
<v Speaker 6>After when he dropped it the TNA Championship to Trick
<v Speaker 6>Williams an outsider at NXT Battleground, he vows that he
<v Speaker 6>wants to get back to TEENA World Title not just
<v Speaker 6>for him, but to bring it back to TNA for
<v Speaker 6>the fans as they continue to believe in him, as
<v Speaker 6>they believed in him through his ascension, as he made
<v Speaker 6>an appearance at the Royal Robo, as he had his
<v Speaker 6>match against Randio and at WrestleMania forty one. Of course,
<v Speaker 6>what he won the TNA World Championship at TEENA Genis
<v Speaker 6>in January, and then when he made an appearance at
<v Speaker 6>Triple Mania Regia a couple of days ago. With all
<v Speaker 6>of those appearances, with all of those amazing things that
<v Speaker 6>happened for Joe Hendry. He asked the question to the crowd,
<v Speaker 6>can you support me once again? As he's now on
<v Speaker 6>the road to his redemption to regain the TNA World
<v Speaker 6>title at Slammiversary And it is official, like a dimension,
<v Speaker 6>It's going to be Joe Hendry versus Trick Williams for
<v Speaker 6>the TNA World Championship. But before we get there, Joe
<v Speaker 6>Hendry must face Wes Lee on the episode of NXT
<v Speaker 6>and let's get to that match, folks, of Joe Hendry
<v Speaker 6>versus Wesley to open up the NXT show. This match
<v Speaker 6>lasted six minutes and thirty seconds. But let me quickly
<v Speaker 6>paint a picture for you guys. As obviously we had
<v Speaker 6>Wesley the challenger, we also had Trick Williams, the TEENA
<v Speaker 6>World Champion. He was sitting at ringsight at the commentating this.
<v Speaker 6>And then we had Wesley's two huge lackeys, Entyson and
<v Speaker 6>Tyreek of High Rise to help none other than Wesley
<v Speaker 6>try to get the victory. But as he fasts forward
<v Speaker 6>to the course of this match, we see Joe Henry
<v Speaker 6>delivering a fisherman's carry. That's right, folks, Joe Henry delivers
<v Speaker 6>a fisherman carried to Wesley. Then Joe goes for the cover,
<v Speaker 6>but then Tyson puts Wesley's leg at the bottom rope
<v Speaker 6>to break the count. Then we see Tyson and Tyreek
<v Speaker 6>of High Rise as they stand on the ringside apron
<v Speaker 6>to distract both the referee and Joe Hendry as wes
<v Speaker 6>Lee was getting ready to do his come from behind
<v Speaker 6>attack on Joe Hendry. But then all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 6>we get the appearance of a new person that has
<v Speaker 6>been added to the storyline, and that is Mike Santana.
<v Speaker 6>Mike Santana appears, he pulls down Tyreek to the ringside
<v Speaker 6>area and he attacks both Tyson and Tyrek of High Rise,
<v Speaker 6>and then we see Joe Hendry.
<v Speaker 2>He ducks out of.
<v Speaker 6>A potential insurgury from Wesley and then Joe Hendry goes
<v Speaker 6>for the standing ovation and one, two three, Joe Hendry
<v Speaker 6>gets the victory against Wesley in six minutes and thirty seconds.
<v Speaker 6>But the question you may ask is who is Mike Santana?
<v Speaker 6>And I'm glad you asked, because one full week ago,
<v Speaker 6>in the main event on an episode of td P Wrestling,
<v Speaker 6>we had aj Francis also known as top Dollar. He
<v Speaker 6>had a match, a street fight match against Mike Santana.
<v Speaker 6>Mike Santana got the victory in that main event in
<v Speaker 6>the street fight match. But the key thing I want
<v Speaker 6>you to remember here is that Mike Santana gets on
<v Speaker 6>the microphone and declares that he wants to be involved
<v Speaker 6>in the TNA World Championship match at Slammer Versary, which
<v Speaker 6>of course we have Henry and Trick Williams. And then
<v Speaker 6>early on yesterday, yesterday afternoon, we see none other. Then
<v Speaker 6>the Director of Authority missed the said Tita Morella, adding
<v Speaker 6>Mike Santana to what is now a triple threat for
<v Speaker 6>the TNA World Championship at tena Slammer Versary. But I
<v Speaker 6>got to say say, as much as I believe in
<v Speaker 6>Joe Hendry, I too believe in Mike Santana. This guy
<v Speaker 6>is from the Bronx, New York. If you haven't seen
<v Speaker 6>him wrestle, this guy has charisma. This guy he cuts
<v Speaker 6>really good promos and he's very good in the ring,
<v Speaker 6>very scrappy. He's kind of a street fighter, kind of
<v Speaker 6>similar to Damian Priest. And of course he's from Puerto
<v Speaker 6>Rican heritage. I waitness Mike Santana last year in September
<v Speaker 6>at a House of Goring Wrestling show as he successfully
<v Speaker 6>defended his championship. Also, this, my friend, is going to
<v Speaker 6>be a very interesting triple threat of Mike Santana, Joe
<v Speaker 6>Hendry and Trick Williams for the TENA World Championship that'll
<v Speaker 6>be happening on Sunday, July twenty eth live from Long Island,
<v Speaker 6>New York at the UBS Arena. Then we get a
<v Speaker 6>backstage segment, and this backstage segment is an interview of
<v Speaker 6>Kelly interviewing both Joe Hendry and Mike Santana, and Hendri
<v Speaker 6>says to Mike, I appreciate you coming out and helping
<v Speaker 6>me take our high Rise Santana interrupts Joe Hendry and says,
<v Speaker 6>you and I are going to be throwing hands in
<v Speaker 6>two and a half weeks at TNA Slammer Versary. But
<v Speaker 6>the reality is that we are united when it comes
<v Speaker 6>to defending TNA against guys like Trick Williams and high Rise.
<v Speaker 6>Kelly quickly mentions that Ava Rain, the general manager of NXT,
<v Speaker 6>schedule a tag team match of Joe Henry and Mike
<v Speaker 6>Santana going up against Tyson and Tyree for the next
<v Speaker 6>episode of NXT Hendry, Dan Tel Santana. We are completely different,
<v Speaker 6>but we do have one thing in common, and that's
<v Speaker 6>a quest to bring back the TNA World Championship back
<v Speaker 6>to TNA. Santana acknowledges that Henri reps TNA to the max,
<v Speaker 6>but he says, let me make myself perfectly clear. I'm
<v Speaker 6>going to be the one to bring back the TNA
<v Speaker 6>World Title back home to TNA, So get ready for
<v Speaker 6>Slammer Versary. Joe Hendry close it off with this statement
<v Speaker 6>to mister Mike Santana and says that job is fit
<v Speaker 6>for one man, and you're looking at him, and that
<v Speaker 6>is official. Folks. We have two things coming up on
<v Speaker 6>the pipeline in this Joe Hendry storyline. Next week, we're
<v Speaker 6>gonna have Joe Hendry and Mike Santana against Tyson and
<v Speaker 6>Tyreek of High Rise. And then at the Great American Bash.
<v Speaker 6>That's why, folks, the Great American Bash, which will be
<v Speaker 6>happening on Saturday, July twelfth, We're gonna have a contract
<v Speaker 6>signing for the TEENA World Championship and this will include
<v Speaker 6>in this contract signing Trick Williams, Joe Hendry, and Mike Santana.
<v Speaker 8>Always remember to believe, say his name, Always remember the
<v Speaker 8>words that Joe Hendry says anytime, any place, at any show,
<v Speaker 8>and most simporly, most simporly, always remember to do this.
<v Speaker 9>Strong sight science, Welcome believing Jew Hendry Jukes.
<v Speaker 6>Once again, this is your guy, DJ Couzmo, have a
<v Speaker 6>blessed week, Big kai to one of the stays in
<v Speaker 6>my friends.
<v Speaker 2>Believe and peace Well, DJ, thank you, and Mike Santana.
<v Speaker 2>There you go. There's a name that I betch a
<v Speaker 2>lot of folks that watched just the main roster haven't
<v Speaker 2>heard before. Good to hear what his characters about who
<v Speaker 2>he you can equate him to. I believe he said
<v Speaker 2>Damian Priest. That is something that you know a lot
<v Speaker 2>of us obviously can and that I would say is
<v Speaker 2>good to know because he potentially is a guy. He's
<v Speaker 2>got a good look. I'm looking at him right now.
<v Speaker 2>I could see him in WWE. I previewed a little
<v Speaker 2>bit of his work as you were talking, just so
<v Speaker 2>I could familiarize myself with who the hell I'm talking
<v Speaker 2>looking at. But and as far as Trick Williams goes,
<v Speaker 2>and Joe Hendry. I will say too that the idea
<v Speaker 2>that we should be concerned about Joe Henry's lack of reaction,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not. It was something I know I
<v Speaker 2>brought up last week and it was just surprising to
<v Speaker 2>hear because everything leading up to that point you had
<v Speaker 2>seen just Joe Henry getting massive pop after massive pop, up,
<v Speaker 2>a massive pop, and then you hear this and you're like,
<v Speaker 2>oh boy, but I'm not too concerned about it. Everybody
<v Speaker 2>has an off night or two, but good to hear
<v Speaker 2>what's going on there. And you saw him at the
<v Speaker 2>House of Horrors. You said, uh, with your first time
<v Speaker 2>seeing uh seeing him and uh, I think this is
<v Speaker 2>gonna be something to keep an eye on. With Trick
<v Speaker 2>Williams and Joe Hendry in Santana. I appreciate the up
<v Speaker 2>update because I know a lot of us don't watch it,
<v Speaker 2>so this is how we're getting our updates. Keep an
<v Speaker 2>eye on the star building process, guys. I know it's
<v Speaker 2>not always the most interesting because everybody wants the big
<v Speaker 2>stars and they want them now. But the big stars
<v Speaker 2>got to start somewhere. Not everyone becomes one, but in
<v Speaker 2>order to start on that journey, you gotta we gotta
<v Speaker 2>watch them from something. So thank you, DJ, and hope
<v Speaker 2>your fourth was good in your undisclosed location. Let's go
<v Speaker 2>to a couple more and close out the show here.
<v Speaker 2>So let's see who who this is?
<v Speaker 10>He's there. Hey, I just wanted to comment on the
<v Speaker 10>Sammie Zane match this weekend. I think he's gonna lose.
<v Speaker 11>I think this is gonna give Sammy's Zain the turn
<v Speaker 11>to a heel that he needs to have. But he
<v Speaker 11>loses to Cross, and Cross and him are somehow going
<v Speaker 11>to going forces.
<v Speaker 10>So Sammy's gonna turning away. That's gonna make him a.
<v Speaker 11>Real bad guy.
<v Speaker 10>Also, I think because Cross has also gone off the
<v Speaker 10>paster aj style, possibly that could be his next target.
<v Speaker 11>I don't know.
<v Speaker 10>I'd really like to see Cross pick up what Raven
<v Speaker 10>did back in the day where he craids the Ravens
<v Speaker 10>flock and basically beat up guy and the next thing
<v Speaker 10>you know, they were following him like a cult leader.
<v Speaker 10>So I think that would be a cool thing for Cross,
<v Speaker 10>But I don't know.
<v Speaker 5>We'll see.
<v Speaker 10>That's all I got.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Wiss not a bad idea, but the question isn't Again,
<v Speaker 2>there's two schools of thought. Here is WWE laying the
<v Speaker 2>groundwork with some of the guys telling me you never
<v Speaker 2>be champion, Oh, I'm looking at a future world champion,
<v Speaker 2>and with I believe it was Dino from Scotland who said, hey,
<v Speaker 2>this is a guy that we're setting up to win
<v Speaker 2>the rumble.
<v Speaker 1>It is.
<v Speaker 2>If you read the te leaves that way, you wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>be necessarily wrong. I mean, you could make the case
<v Speaker 2>that they're laying groundwork for that right now. But as
<v Speaker 2>you said, with carrying Cross lurking around, maybe poisoning the
<v Speaker 2>mind of Sammy's ain, he could end up doing that,
<v Speaker 2>and I would actually argue that's the better path right
<v Speaker 2>now because it would help elevate carrying Cross. Sammy would
<v Speaker 2>bring up carrying Cross, So there is that to be said,
<v Speaker 2>and carrying Cross, I hope does something more significant other
<v Speaker 2>than just trying to get in the head of Sammy's
<v Speaker 2>a and ultimately it going nowhere. All of these you know,
<v Speaker 2>poisoning thoughts that he's trying to get into the mind
<v Speaker 2>of Sammy have really not manifested themselves anywhere or into
<v Speaker 2>anything at this point. So yeah, I would have to
<v Speaker 2>go that's the more interesting road unless they feel that
<v Speaker 2>Sammy is being kind of groomed right now to win
<v Speaker 2>a world championship. So tough call. This is a tough
<v Speaker 2>call of what they're gonna do with Sammy. But Sammy's
<v Speaker 2>a major player either way. Sammy's a major player moving
<v Speaker 2>forward in the next four to six months, no question
<v Speaker 2>about it. Thank you, WOS all right, one final voicemail
<v Speaker 2>and we'll wrap it up.
<v Speaker 5>It's tough for baltimorecelldis to just talk about like the
<v Speaker 5>Woman's Division of FA and that's my major favorite scene
<v Speaker 5>they have to talk about. But Jake car girl wedding
<v Speaker 5>I don't like because I don't like that choice because
<v Speaker 5>she's not good in the ring. Her match with uh
<v Speaker 5>with Oscar suck, and we know how good I know
<v Speaker 5>how good Oscar is in her with other people the
<v Speaker 5>time did all that invested in Jake Carper at all?
<v Speaker 5>And this thing with Naomi doesn't interesting. Their match with
<v Speaker 5>Wrestle Media was was it good?
<v Speaker 4>So?
<v Speaker 5>And the idea of them doing and because now on
<v Speaker 5>the stand is it's Jada Tiffany. That doesn't excite me
<v Speaker 5>as a match. You know, I just feel like the story,
<v Speaker 5>the storyline in the militarism. Mostly invested in is what
<v Speaker 5>Becky is doing with both Lyra and Bailey. Eel has
<v Speaker 5>been a nothing champion, which been which has been a
<v Speaker 5>wake up of kind of still sex. I'm a big
<v Speaker 5>heel Skystan, but he's not done anything that she won
<v Speaker 5>the title back in March and doesn't has been nothing
<v Speaker 5>coming out of WrestleMania, you know. There the whole thing
<v Speaker 5>was was injury kind of gonna derail the thing, whether
<v Speaker 5>it do with Roxanne or what Roxan is gonna be doing.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, at this point, I would have had that.
<v Speaker 5>I would have pivoted her to be included into the
<v Speaker 5>women's icy titled picture. I would have done that, would
<v Speaker 5>have had like Roxtan and Lyra feed with each other.
<v Speaker 5>That'd be cool to see. Maybe at some point, David,
<v Speaker 5>that will end up happening. Then whenever Becky turns baby face,
<v Speaker 5>they could be Roxy and Becky because that was Leo'
<v Speaker 5>feed people to see tree rox and Becky at some point.
<v Speaker 5>So that doesn't excite me. But beyond that, Eo has
<v Speaker 5>nothing to do right now. Rhea is kind of in
<v Speaker 5>the background and doing nothing. Neither she's super over, but
<v Speaker 5>nothing to do, and it's like this whole Live injury
<v Speaker 5>and it's kind of derailed the plans with the Women's
<v Speaker 5>di visit heading into Evolution and want I don't and
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what we would do that evolution too,
<v Speaker 5>because there's been no type of peas at all what
<v Speaker 5>they're going to do with that show, and it's a
<v Speaker 5>month away, so you know it's it's uh or I
<v Speaker 5>guess this in a couple of weeks at this point
<v Speaker 5>is Jesus almost over with But yeah, it's just it's
<v Speaker 5>it's weird. I don't know what they plan on doing,
<v Speaker 5>but I thought the show was buying for what that.
<v Speaker 5>The Nine Champs was fire for what it was, but
<v Speaker 5>I think the women's division in general, on both Raw
<v Speaker 5>and Snackdown, it's just kind of not interesting of the
<v Speaker 5>major champions that are involved. Because if I five Becky
<v Speaker 5>super interesting as icy champion and Eale, that's the problem.
<v Speaker 5>I thought that way when Becky was the NFC Wom's
<v Speaker 5>champion too, when I when real champion a couple of
<v Speaker 5>years ago, but think failed with this kind of stacks.
<v Speaker 5>Like again, I do love EO, I don't know what
<v Speaker 5>she does moving forward headed into summer Slam and evolution,
<v Speaker 5>but that's with Wayne and See but I just dro
<v Speaker 5>look Beck you's doing and west Lyra and Bailey, but
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what they plan on dealing with EEL
<v Speaker 5>moving forward. But that is it. Just real call.
<v Speaker 1>Cole.
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you brought up the women's division.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I haven't spent a lot of time on it, and
<v Speaker 2>that's not a good thing because the women have an
<v Speaker 2>evolution pl E coming up just a couple of weeks.
<v Speaker 2>It's a big deal, women only pl E, and there
<v Speaker 2>has been little to no promotion. I don't feel excited
<v Speaker 2>about it, and I should nowhere near the first excitement
<v Speaker 2>that we felt when this happened. I forget when the
<v Speaker 2>first evolution was three, four, five, six years ago, but
<v Speaker 2>it was. I remember coming out of the show saying, Wow,
<v Speaker 2>this is maybe one of the best pls of the
<v Speaker 2>entire year. It was awesome. I didn't like how everyone
<v Speaker 2>came out and bowed like it was a community theater
<v Speaker 2>play at the end, with Stephanie in the middle. I
<v Speaker 2>hated that. But other than that, you take that piece
<v Speaker 2>out of like, hey, thanks for thanks for the enjoying
<v Speaker 2>the performance. Everybody, what you just saw wasn't real. That's
<v Speaker 2>essentially what I hated that. But the actual wrestling matches themselves,
<v Speaker 2>awesome storylines, everything just clicked that night. This feels like
<v Speaker 2>an afterthought. Now we're also in a environment now where
<v Speaker 2>ww's cranking out ples on a bi weekly basis. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>this is going to come and go boom. Then we
<v Speaker 2>got the next one. We have a Saturday Night Man
<v Speaker 2>event the night before, then we got the uh evolution
<v Speaker 2>pl E boom now, then then we got Summer Slam,
<v Speaker 2>and Evolution is going to be forgotten and it's like, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we'll check it off the box that we did another evolution. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>we'll see you guys in another five years. It's it
<v Speaker 2>does not feel like this has been exactly a priority
<v Speaker 2>for WWE. And I understand they have multiple priorities. They
<v Speaker 2>can't have the evolution pl E be the end alb all,
<v Speaker 2>but the fact that it's the second ever women's only
<v Speaker 2>pl E yeah, it should be a feel, It should
<v Speaker 2>feel bigger than it is. I'm not excited for it
<v Speaker 2>because they've given me no reason to be excited for it. Okay, fine,
<v Speaker 2>we've got Rhea and we've got EO. Great fine, we
<v Speaker 2>know that's going to be a fun pl matchup. That
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and I don't mean that in a pandering way.
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be fun. But other than that, like
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing, mhmm it it's not exciting. And sure
<v Speaker 2>they've got two weeks, which in WWE land is a
<v Speaker 2>pay per view cycle. Now, I mean, that's just how
<v Speaker 2>that's the the time stamp that we have, you know,
<v Speaker 2>the the uh the increment of time that we have
<v Speaker 2>now between pls. So they've they're like, hey, we haven't
<v Speaker 2>even started promoting for it yet. We haven't even you know,
<v Speaker 2>we haven't entered Evolution season yet. We gotta wait till
<v Speaker 2>we're two weeks out. So maybe this past, this coming
<v Speaker 2>week and next week before the ple e the following week,
<v Speaker 2>we get a decent card and all of a sudden
<v Speaker 2>it's boomed. Okay, okay, great, okay, now we're starting to
<v Speaker 2>really build towards it. It doesn't help, though, the Saturday
<v Speaker 2>night main events right on its heels. That does not
<v Speaker 2>help because then it doesn't have its own spotlight. It
<v Speaker 2>has to share the spotlight with Saturday Night made event.
<v Speaker 2>That's poor booking. I don't need another Saturday Night made event.
<v Speaker 2>Why is there? I don't want more Saturday night man events.
<v Speaker 2>I want Saturday Night main event to be like once
<v Speaker 2>a year. It's like this random thing that pops up
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh cool, they're doing like a Saturday
<v Speaker 2>Ight main events. Quasi pl e, let's go. They're shoving
<v Speaker 2>them in a schedule that already is jam impact full
<v Speaker 2>of pls to the point of just it's too much,
<v Speaker 2>and it takes away the spotlight from Evolution that should
<v Speaker 2>have its own weekend. I don't like it. So I
<v Speaker 2>don't care if it's headline my Goldberg and gun Through,
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. No one's really interested in that match
<v Speaker 2>from the perspective of it being a good match. We
<v Speaker 2>know what it's going to be. But yeah, that's a
<v Speaker 2>good point. I mean, Evolution has been really just an afterthought,
<v Speaker 2>and I really don't I don't like that. But we'll
<v Speaker 2>see what happens in this next these next couple of weeks.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they blow us away. I know there's talk about
<v Speaker 2>stars coming out of the woodwork, and oh maybe Molly
<v Speaker 2>Holly or you know, Trish Stratus and you know who
<v Speaker 2>really has never left. I mean, so no one really
<v Speaker 2>lose their minds over Trish's coming back or Tory Wilson
<v Speaker 2>or you know, okay, fine, you bring back the stars
<v Speaker 2>of yesteryear. Fine, Okay, Nicki Bello is gonna get her
<v Speaker 2>two minutes of fame again. But you know, liv that
<v Speaker 2>whole injury, it derailed a lot of things, more than
<v Speaker 2>I think we realized. Live was more of an important
<v Speaker 2>part of that women's division, and I think a lot
<v Speaker 2>of us even realized until she's now out, gone and out,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I can't wait till she comes back. She
<v Speaker 2>is just a centerpiece of the company, one of not
<v Speaker 2>the only. But yes, Ria is quote unquote moreover, Riea
<v Speaker 2>is still a bigger star. But Live is.
<v Speaker 6>Boy.
<v Speaker 2>You talk about a rocket shit being strapped to her
<v Speaker 2>and deservingly so, and she has proven it and she
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but the dominic story and taking over Evolution
<v Speaker 2>and telling Ria I'm gonna take everything from you and
<v Speaker 2>she did, and the revenge to her that she actually
<v Speaker 2>completed and made it worthwhile. I mean, Live has just
<v Speaker 2>been so fun week in and week out, and then
<v Speaker 2>she gets hurt and you're like, oh crap, and w
<v Speaker 2>W's like, oh crap, we got Evolution what do we do?
<v Speaker 2>Who's you know, Who's NICKI bella gonna face just so,
<v Speaker 2>this is a ple that I am sad to say
<v Speaker 2>as of this moment, and that could change in two
<v Speaker 2>weeks time. Two weeks from tonight, I could be like, man,
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for evolution this week, this weekend, but
<v Speaker 2>as if it was tomorrow night, I'd be like, nah,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I don't want to feel that way.
<v Speaker 2>So all right, everybody, thank you so much for joining
<v Speaker 2>me here on this mailbag show. Again. I'm on vacation
<v Speaker 2>this coming week, so times of publishing should be close
<v Speaker 2>to the same as usual with our publishing of Raw
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<v Speaker 2>quality microphone, So all right, thank you.
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