Amy Kaplan: The Truth About Filler and Facelifts | Golden Hour

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Golden Hour. Guys. I'm Jonathan and I'm Joan.

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Speaker 2: We're filling in this week for Kathy and Susan.

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Speaker 1: We all have a special guest this week from Melo season of The Golden Bachelor. Amy. How are we doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm great, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, of course, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so glad to have you. And you've been kind of pretty active on social media lately and some of your daughters. So we're just going to start off right away because the world wants to know. We want to know all about your facelift, like, what made you do it? How do you find a doctor? Like tell us all about it, because you know, all of us women who have considered this or maybe have done it love to hear about other people's stories.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I think I have fairly young genetics. And this is kind of a long story, but I'm going to do the add version of it. Free COVID. I looked super young. I had a very very bad case of COVID, like one hundred and five fever for three weeks. I was not at the gym for three weeks. My daughters know I was not feeling well because I am in the gym for two hours a day. So anyway, I had you know, I used to do filler and botox and all of that, and I had filler that started migrating. Because filler does not go away. I don't care what anybody says. It started migrating. I hit it with disolver, which I've done before, and for some reason, I had a systemic reaction and everything started sagging. It was really scary, and my whole body started sagging. But thank god, all good. Now when he went in he found so much filler on the right side of my face. That's where I had the injections. So this is taking a much longer time to heal. But all good so far.

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Speaker 1: So where did it start from?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so all about COVID.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that crazy. I don't really talk about it, but a lot of people are now starting to talk about their filler disasters, and they're saying, filler never really leaves your body. And I think that the side that was dissolved, it started spreading and it really hit all my lymph nodes and everything and it became systemic. But no, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: So this maybe a guy question, But where did the filler start from? Like? Did you put it somewhere here?

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Speaker 3: No, it's okay, you know, so what happens is it's funny in New York. Do you live in New York right now? Okay? So I live in LA two, Okay, but I'm I'm in LA now. But I used to live in New York City and in a New York I think people don't do as much filler and all that stuff. You know, I was doing boatox, a little bit of filler. I come out to La. Oh, you need filler here, you need it here, you need it here. They plump you up with filler and it does migraine. But so, anyway, where was I at? That's because I know, Jonathan, you were asking me.

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Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, so where did it start? Like where did the.

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Speaker 3: John a little bitty like in my temples and lateral cheeks? And then it just started blowing up after COVID and I tried dissolving it and it was a show.

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Speaker 1: Migrated down to here.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, only the side with the dissolver, and then it started affecting my whole body because it causes so much inflammation, and COVID caused a lot of inflammation. I don't really talk about this that much though, Like when I talk about it, but they're like, you're fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming there's other women out there that have been through it, so it's probably a really good thing to talk about so they don't feel as alone, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the interesting thing is my doctor said, and now they're saying that this it's an enzyme, it's called hilurana days doesn't really dissolve filler. It just kind of moves it around all the particles around because he said he found clumps clumps a filler and I have not done filler for ten years. Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 2: And it was worse on the side with the dissolver. It sounds like it hardens or has like somehow embeds itself into like your fat or your muscle or something.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I've had a reaction to filler before filler.

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Speaker 3: Tell me fine.

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Speaker 2: I had it done in my lower lip. I always do it my lower lip and I had a flu and all of a sudden, my lip like exploded, like it got really really really big. And then years later had a similar situation, had a flu or something and had a temperature and it did the exact same thing to my lip. So it felt like like the inflammatory response, like that your body is doing to fight off whatever infection you have or virus you have. Like somehow I don't know what happens, but it like does something to your filler.

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Speaker 3: It totally does. And I think it's all related to inflammation because I had autoimmune like illnesses and nothing would ever show up. But you know, he took most of it out. I'm feeling so much better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll never do filler again, but you'll never need to because you look never so good.

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Speaker 1: So good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to ask you about I love the way you recover out of Beverly Hills five star hotel.

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Speaker 3: Were all that's the way to do it.

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Speaker 2: Tell us how you got to that point, Like I'm going to go to a great hotel and lay there in luxury with rooms.

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Speaker 3: Tell me how that like all came out. My doctor Patrick K. Davis, he trained under Andrew Frankel, And there's something called the Laski Clinic, which is right across from the Peninsula Hotel. So that's one of the hotels you can choose. And so I said, yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to go stay there. And it was just hilarious because the Peninsula has a Rolls Royce House court. My daughters could not stop cracking up at me. I'm getting out of the roles. I'm all bandaged up. They put me in off a wheel chair. I cracking up. I couldn't stop laughing, but I couldn't move my face because I was all bandaged up. I thought a glimpse of myself in the elevator. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, this is hilarious, and filming it and Reese, you know, I went back to go see him. It's so funny because he was like the bellboy there because I get lymphatic drainage and massages there. He saw me. We were laughing. It was so funny because he couldn't even back me in. It was like, it was just hilarious.

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Speaker 2: It must be so funny to be like a normal guest at that hotel and have people coming in like looking like a mummy, Like you could end up being in the elevator with them. Is there like a back door is another way to come in, and like right through the front lobby.

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Speaker 3: They took me through the back door, but the elevator, I went through the main elevator, and I don't remember anybody else in there with me, but the elevators all mirrored, and all I remember is looking at your elevator. I'm like, oh my god, and I just wanted to crack up laughing. And my daughters are filming it and they think it's hilarious. Like, I'm glad they got a kick out of it.

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Speaker 2: I love how they've documented all of it. I watched all the videos every day. I was looking forward to my update on how you're looking that day you recover. It was really quick. You haven't been super open about cosmetic surgery, and some people are really private about it. They don't want people to know, although like if you have it on your face, people are going to know. I would think, because if you if your surgeon has done a really good job, they you you know, it's noticeable, you can see it, and that's really the ultimate goal is to look different. So how how people receive that? Like, have people been super supportive or do you have fans like chiming in same way to go girl, or have you had any like mixed emotions about it?

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Speaker 3: Well, the fans have been really supportive. I wanted. I was like just a little afraid going in because when you go in in your forties, like I've done my boobs before, and I did a tummy tuck obviously because I had twins, so it's a very different healing process than when you go in in your sixties. And I surprisingly, I did much better than I thought, although my doctor knew that I was going to do great. My intern ist. I did not take steroids at all, and you know, so I blew up a lot more than most people. But then I started healing at a very rapid rate. And I was very upfront with everything because my daughters just thought it was so much fun to document it at my expense. I said, I was already on the Golden Bachelor, you know what, I'm just going to be myself, put it out there. It's okay. And I was like, I cannot believe I did this, but you know it's fine. I am who I am, and I'm very transparent and it was actually a fun journey to show other people, and it broke the taboo because a lot of doctors they show you the before and they show you the after. I'm nowhere even near my after I'm still, you know, very early on. I'm in the healing process. Like I said, I have like a lot of fluid sitting in here still. But I want you to put it out there and show people what the journey was about. And actually I see a lot of doctors started doing this now, And I said to my daughters, I'm a little pissed because we they're like Mama, that's why we're influencers, because we disrupt the market. I love that.

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Speaker 2: What did your doctor like, how many months? How many days, how many weeks, how many how long? Is like the whole process.

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Speaker 3: I wanted a very very very natural lift. I wanted something that was undetectable. I just want you to look like I did when I first moved out to LA And I think he did a really good job. I don't even have I don't even have indecisions. They're all in my hair and I didn't lose any hair, and I have dissolvables and I'm so itchy, I'm going crazy. But I'm going to go get my hair colored next week and we're gonna have to be very gentle because I can't stand it anymore. But so I wanted something very natural. I've been on a lot of consults, and I felt very very comfortable with him because we were aligned. Our aesthetics were very very aligned. And I said to one of my friends the other day, she was facetiming me. I said, see, nobody can even tell I had a facelift. She said, yeah, but half of America, I mean your daughter's document.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there is a stigma like I feel as a woman, they you know people, there are a whole group of people that say, you know, we need to grow old, you know, elegantly, and we shouldn't do these things surface. By the way, I've done a lot to my face. I am in the same campus. By the way, I think, thank you right back at your girl. Do you think there is a stigma like I don't talk about this with everybody. Well here I am. Now everybody's gonna hear it.

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Speaker 3: But you know it.

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Speaker 2: I do feel sometimes there's a stigma there, like, oh, why do you have to change your appearance? Well, because it makes me feel good, but like, how do you feel.

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Speaker 3: Changing It's because it's not changing your appearance. I my face recognition works on everything on my phone, it's just turning back the hands of time. I wanted something supernatural that people like can't even tell. But yet all my jowls are gone, and you know, my eyelids are nice and cleaned up, and my face doesn't frown down anymore, and so it's super supernatural. I care if there's a stigma, honestly, because you know what, I don't want to grow olds gracefully. I'm going to be sixty four. In my head, I am not sixty four. I work out two hours a day. I have the vibrancy of the thirty year olds. I feel really young. I am not a senior citizen. I find that frightening.

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Speaker 1: Also, out of curiosity for the both of you. Do you guys do it like? Is it purely like internal? Is there like an external pressure to like do it? Or do you guys just be're like, Hey, I just want to do this for myself because I think it'll make me look and feel better than I did before.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any internal pressure. I think it's my own self. Although my daughters did say to me, my daughters are the one that pushed me, because I kept pushing it out and out and they sat me down at the doctor's office. When we finally shows the doctor. When's the next debailable? I said, I'm going to do at the end of Abel sometime the next thing. I know, you know, I'm going in February.

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Speaker 2: So I'd love to answer that question too, because I I feel like it was a lot of internal for me, Like it gave me more self confidence when I feel like I'm putting my best self forward. But I do have to say there was some external pressure I feel like, and you know that probably came from inside of me. But I know I talked I've talked before about feeling kind of invisible as you get older and how people don't like really notice you. The world kind of belongs to the young and to like kind of your generation, Jonathan, and that happens in the workplace. Yeah, yeah, it's just well it happens like even like you go to a restaurant and you stand there in front of a host of stand and they, you know, kind of address everybody else around you, and you're like, hello, like I'd like to get a table too. I just feel like you become invisible as you get older, so you know, trying to look younger a little bit. A little bit of it for me came from like external pressure, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the honesty. No, I'm always super interested in that side of things. And I'm like, is it fully just for like internal which there has to be a piece of that follow through it, but like to get that started, probably a little external too, to just be like, oh wait, I see this. I want a little bit more of whatever it might be.

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Speaker 3: And mine was because I'm in the gym every morning and I would look in the mirror and my body looked one way and my face the gravity was taking over a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I didn't match it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not good. This is not good. When I would pass by a mirror when I was young, I was like okay, and then I started looking in the mirror. I'm like, this is not good. This is not good. So then you start doing this thing, you start like oh God, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you start the mirror and you pull and you pull this back and you're like, I I totally agree. I know mirrors are a bitch and so is gravity.

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Speaker 3: So what we got to do.

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Speaker 2: At our age? You and I are the same age? How do you personally define aging? Confidlently in like the stage in her life, like how do you present yourself? How do you define like like what aging looks like?

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Speaker 3: John, You know, it's kind of scary me swear to you. I don't feel like my age. And even my girls are like, Mama, do you realize you're going to be a grandmother? Do you realize you're going to be sixty four? I'm like, no, I'm still thirty, you know, And in my head, I am so young. So it's kind of there's a disconnect because I don't feel my age at all. Like when I don't see other people my age, I'm like, wow, you know, I don't want to say they're old, but I mean, we are sixty four, and I don't feel that. Though I don't think I.

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Speaker 2: Think aging looks I don't either. I think aging looks a little differently now with our generation than it did the generation before. So I think my mom and she was in her sixties, I'm sixty three, and I remember like like they were kind of winding things down a little bit. They were getting towards the end of the careers. They were thinking about traveling or buying, you know, a house, like in Florida. I don't feel like we're doing that. I think we are like vibrant in our careers. Some people are even starting new careers, going back to school. I went back to school and got a different degree when I was fifty eight. I feel like we are, Yeah, we're not stopping at this age. We're not our grand we're not our parents. So I do feel like we're maybe a little bit of a trail bit laser, like this generation is. And part of that is looking better. So that's part of that is looking at the way we're feeling. So maybe right now, like for our age people, if you can afford it, you know, plastic surgery is an option just to keep us like kind of in the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a personal choice. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the acting too of it, like that there's not as much of a and I could be wrong here of like a pressure to like go into this phase of life too soon, even for like my age, I feel like ten fifteen years ago, by thirty, like if you didn't have kids and you weren't doing anything, like people are like what the hell are you doing? Like what is and life has just all kind of gotten pushed back, And I feel like even for your guys' generation too. It's not like a pressure to be like you need to retire by this age and do this and start doing this. Like everything feels like it's been pushed back a little bit. So I don't know if that's maybe added or taken away from some of the pressure, but it's probably like mentally, you don't feel like you're getting older because you're not having to do the things that your parents had to do back then.

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Speaker 3: Now get yeah, yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that you're recognizing that your generation is going through like a little bit of an update to Jonathan. And I think I knew that because I do feel like everybody's having babies much later than they did in our generation. But like the fact that you verbalize that really like kind of brings a highlight in my head to that all of our generations maybe are pushing things a little later in life. So well, good for us, right, you know, I think we're living longer, so maybe that's just a natural progression. I do want to talk to you, though, Amy, about like a really exciting time in your life because you are going to be a grandma. Both your daughters are pregnant. First of all congratulations, but thank you to ask what, like, was this completely planned or is it just an amazing.

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Speaker 3: This was planned. The babies are going to make at the most ten weeks apart. And the good thing is, you know, I raise twins, so this is going to be easy for me. I can't believe I'm going to be a grandmother though. I mean, that's almost like I'm so exciting, but it's frightening a grandmother. My grandmothers were old. I am not old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's not funny. So you're right, and you don't look all now, so right, So so what are your daughters do?

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Speaker 1: Dates?

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Speaker 2: Are they like? One soon? I feel like I feel like her. When they showed her stomach, she was like she was getting there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lexi is due June twenty third, and Allie's do September? Daughter, were you even the same day?

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Speaker 2: So I have two. I have a daughter, and I have three grandchildren already. But I have a daughter and a daughter in law and both of them are pregnant and ones do the twenty second ones to the twenty third. Oh wow, so you're not going to be Both of mine are having little girls, so we all we're gonna have to keep in touch and send each other like our little baby pictures.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it be all over my daughter's social as well.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, what kind of grandma do you think you're gonna be? Are you gonna be the come in hold the baby? Are you gonna be?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: No, I like a two year old?

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Speaker 3: Better? No?

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I was such a hands on mother with twins. Everybody was like, well, I had twins, no baby, nurse, breastfed, made homemade baby food. I mean, I'm very nurturing and I'm really good with kids, like I love children. I'm extremely close with my my daughters as I'm sure you're very was like, I know you're very family oriented as well. So I'm super excited. It's it's gonna be a pleasure for me. I'm really really excited. The thing is, though, I could already tell when they say, you know, Mama, don't you know if they say no about something, I'll be like doing it how I want you?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely at night and you don't care. Yeah, exactly do that what you're supposed to do. That's exactly what are you? What are you're more excited to do with your grandkids?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Are you don to Disneyland or like, guy, what's your thing?

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Speaker 3: I think everything? I think cooking with them, aren't projects, going to Disney with them, traveling movies, reading, play dough, making a homemade play dough, just everything, you know, snuggling up and reading and watching movies together. I'm I'm just so excited shopping everything.

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Speaker 2: Have have you bought anything yet? Have you been shopping for them?

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Speaker 3: I did, you know? I got a couple of little outfits because I couldn't resist. So we started a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's fun, and I know I was online. I was on Etsy the other day ordering like monogram stuff because we have we might both mine have their little kids, their babies names picked out. So I started monogramming everything mine too.

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Speaker 3: Also we think, uh, Lexi has hers picked out. Ali is not quite sure yet, but we're leaning towards well, not weak, because you know they're we're not going to just ask me my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's let's let's move on. Because you know, we know you from the Golden Boucher, so I love but I remember you. I loved your entrance with your daughter, so that's like, forget thank you, Joan. Where where does your love life stand today? I mean I know you're in baby mode and fix the face mode, but I mean, you know you're out there single woman. Now, you've been on National d D.

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Speaker 3: I'm dating. I'm definitely dating and there's a couple of people i'm dating now. I just hope that they don't watch this because I don't want to be called a player. And you know, so it's I think right. My son in law said to me the other day, he goes, my god, you're a player. I'm like, I'm really not good for you.

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Speaker 2: How do you find dates? I know that's like the big question for everybody your age, like how do you.

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Speaker 3: Find fix fix up? You can meet somebody at the gym or just you know, somewhere traveling online. I do the online thing through my daughters. I don't know, it's like it's easy, Look, it's easy to date. It's I'm very picky and I want a total connection. I want that true connection and I need that spark because if it's sparks there in the beginning, it has to be there. And I want something fun and like very happy like myself. You know, yeah, you don't need to settle no no, no no, And I can't deal with somebody's family drama because my girls are so good.

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Speaker 2: I love my son with you. Yeah, so you could end up with a man who doesn't have such an easy like relationship with their kids.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be difficult for me. Yeah, has a drama dramas for TV. That's it.

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Speaker 2: And really the season that you were on, even though you you know, like you said you left, I mean you were there a decent amount of days. I mean you were week three, so you if there was drama, you were probably kind of around for some of it. Your season did have a little drama. Mine never did. Neither one of mine had any drama, so it was like pretty easy. But since being on the show, has your perspective changed as a result of being on the show? I know mine did, and I'm just wondering how it affected you at all.

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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, I was just myself on the show, and I put it all out there, and I think now even with everything, like as far as even putting my face looked out there, it's like, yeah, I just am who I am. Go have fun with it. It should be fun.

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Speaker 1: Amy. I'm not sure if you or know how they usually do it every week, but each week, Kathy and Susan answered questions from listeners and give them like they're expert golden advice. And this week we're going to keep on theme and kind of get your advice on some of these questions. If you're open to it about like cosmetics.

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Speaker 3: On those things, go for it. I might as well, right, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Perfect Well, I'm going to read the first one and feel free to just answer it afterwards. So this first one's from Marissa, who's thirty seven. She's from Chicago. Says, Hi, ladies, I have a question for you. I'm thirty seven and officially done having babies. My husband was being sweet and said, you can finally get that mommy makeover you've always wanted, referencing my tummy tuck and brass augmentation before kids. I always thought that's something i'd want to do, But now chasing around three toddlers, honestly couldn't care less about how I look most days, and I can't imagine being out of commission of that for that kind of recovery. That said, it did get me thinking, does he want me to do it? Now? I'm reconsidering. I'm having a hard time figuring out if this is actually for me if it's something from subtle and totally unintentional pressure. To be clear, He's never made me feel bad about my body or my stretch marks at all. But now I'm second guessing what I thought I wanted. Maybe my priorities have just changed. Who knows. I'd really love your advice on this, love you and your podcast so much.

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Speaker 3: So my advice is she should only do it if it bothers her. Yeah, if it bothers her and she doesn't feel great about it, go for it. She might decide maybe in five years or ten years she wants to do it, but if she's not feeling it now, concentrate on your family and your children, and she'll do it when she feels like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think piggybacking off of that too. Don't get me wrong, I am a guy. Sometimes we're stupid and sometimes we say stuff without thinking. We don't actually like understand how in depth one of our comments might be taken. So I think also in her situation, like just ask like, hey, do you want me to do you think I should like? Is there an attraction thing? And if he's a dick, he's gonna say yes.

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Speaker 2: There's no way he can answer that truthfull.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe he'll answer truthfully and he was just trying to be nicer. But I love that you address that, Jonathan, because like I feel like, you know, maybe she feels bad because he is maybe not attracted to her, or like thinks that she doesn't look great and she wants to look great. But you know the bottom line, when you're doing something to your body and you know what the recovery looks like and you know how hard this is, you need to And especially if she's like really involved in her kids' lives and they're growing up and she doesn't want to take that time out, maybe this is something that she's going to feel a lot stronger when they're in their twenties, kind of like your daughter's, you know, when everybody's a little older and you have time. And I mean she's still young, she's only thirty seven. How bad could she possibly look. I'm sure she's a lovely, beautiful woman and he's just being nice to her.

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Speaker 3: I had to tell me Tucket, like I think thirty two, right after I had the babies, but I wanted it. See that's the thing my daughter. They didn't say oh, you need it. If anything, everyone tried to talk me out of it. I said, no, I am going in and I'm doing it. So that's the difference. You have to want it. If she doesn't want it and she's happy not having it, then that's her prerogative.

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Speaker 2: Totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. Okay. So we have another question putting my glasses on, and it's from Carrie. She's forty eight and she's from the Miami area, and she says, Hi, golden goals. I'm a mom of two teenage daughters, and I think they are both beautiful and perfect in every way. I've had my share of botox and fillers, but nothing major when it comes to cosmetic procedures. Girls are growing up in a very different time than I did, and they're really into makeup and filters on social media. I worry a lot about how they see themselves. They already talk with their friends about wanting to wanting lip filler when they turn eighteen, etc. I remember when I was a teen, we were talking about getting a stupid tattoo one day, so maybe this is just their version of that. But I'm curious, what do you think? Do you have any advice on how to talk to young girls about this. How do you protect them from making decisions they may not need while still supporting their autonomy over their own body bodies. It feels so impossible sometimes any advice is so appreciated. Thank you so much. What do you think, Amy, you have two daughters.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you guys think as a parent? You know, my daughters feel like they're perfect because I think it's how the mother instills in them. The confidence. I tell my daughters they're beautiful. They're gorgeous inside and out, so they don't really question their looks that much, you know. And my thing, I did more for aging, and I did the tummy tuck because I carried the twins and it just wasn't what it was. But my daughters, like you know, are their noses one hundred percent perfect. They have a little bit of a Jewish nose, but they love their noses. I love their noses and they feel good about it. And I think that's the bottom line. I think this whole thing with plastic surgery to start changing how you look, it's become almost like social media. It's it's become like these poor young girls feel like they have to fit like expectations that everyone needs to look like a certain way, but we don't. We're all unique looking and beautiful. So I think I'm saying to her, just keep instilling to your daughters that they're beautiful, and if they want to do a little lip filler. I know my daughters wanted to do it a little bit. They did it, and then remember you said about your inflammation. They had that when they would get six, so they stopped with that and botox. They're obviously not doing anything, as you know, while they're pregnant, so I and I think it comes from within. I think it's how your your mother. You know, she should just tell her daughters they're beautiful and not feel that social pressure and things. It's interesting because there was something I saw on Instagram somebody was talking about as some beauty editor was saying that there is a trends now less filler, less of like changing to try to look like that Barbie mold and just to embrace your uniqueness. And I'm so glad we're getting more towards that, you know, because we're not perfect. Nobody's perfect, and it's interesting you can see a girl who maybe is not as pretty but she looks gorgeous because she exudes that inner confidence. And then there's might be somebody who esthetically is gorgeous, but she just doesn't exude that same confidence. I think a lot of it comes from within yourself.

00:29:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. I think unfortunately too, people like you're a product of their environment too, Like unfortunately, like with like a Miami area and you have like a Beverly Hills area, it's almost inevitable that you're going to compare in those ways because that's the environment. And again, yes, being a product your environment is also the householder you're raised in. Like, yes, like giving into that natural beauty and telling your kids they are beautiful and awesome is great and it can take them so far. But then there are those outside pressures of like when they're asked when they're away from you. Are the media in a certain way? Is there social media that like we have access to so much now that like it is hard to do that. And I think just having like open communication probably And again I'm not a parent, I'm just somebody who thinks a lot on mental health. I think just making that an open road of communication for your kids to discuss with you is probably.

00:30:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, very important.

00:30:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like, honestly, I may be opposed to the things that you guys are saying. I think all that, like having like an inner self confidence and feeling good about yourself is great. But I always felt with Mike kids, like everything that was taboo or not allowed or forbidden or discouraged, they wanted to do more. So I kind of would say, yeah, you know, when you're eighteen, it's your body. You can make your own decisions and give it a try. You might love it, you might hate it. But to make it like you know, maybe shameful or you shouldn't do that. You obviously don't feel good enough about yourself. That's why you're doing it. Like I always say, give it a try. If it's you know, the things that bothers them, of course, like it's not if it's not permanent, and maybe, you know, maybe they will feel better about themselves. Maybe that will give them the inner confidence that you know they need to succeed in something else. So I kind of feel like, you know, let them try things out. I feel like a tattoo would have been way worse than filler and botox. Yeah, Jonathan is beautiful.

00:31:46
Speaker 1: In these tattooes cover tato.

00:31:49
Speaker 2: It looks great. So I do feel like that, like the forbidden fruit is the one that they're gonna want the most. So I kind of like, go for it. If you feel like it's gonna make you feel sure, give it.

00:31:58
Speaker 3: A try, give it a try. You don't hurt anybody else. It's all about being happy.

00:32:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a form of self expression. And the closest to cosmetic change i'd have is tattoos. I don't get them because other people think they're cool or this or that. It's like a form because it's hard.

00:32:17
Speaker 3: It's okay, Yeah, my daughters have really cute ones on the risk and then Lexi has Ali's name, and Ali has Lexi's name. We were at we were at an event and I was sitting down and I almost was going to get theirs on my inner finger, and then I said, wait a minute, I'm too scared because the tattoo artist it was a celebrity tattoo artist. He said it heart too much there. I said, you know what I think will skip it?

00:32:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's some places that are more like tender. That sounds like it would hurt like crap. Luckily, a name like Genevieve or something, so you would have to get a long name. Ali Lexi at least would have been short name.

00:32:56
Speaker 1: It's easy, right right right, Well, those are the calls that we have for the week and also to anybody listening at home. You guys can submit your burning questions to us by going to the bachel nation dot com slash Golden Hour. We come back each week and answer them. Well we don't, Kathy and Susan do, but so the times that we are here will help you, guys and answer mout the best that we can.

00:33:15
Speaker 2: And Amy, thank you so much for being here and thanks for joining us again for Bacher Golden Hour. Make sure to rate, review, subscribe wherever you listen to your podcast, and you can follow us also on social media at Bachler Happy Hour and at Bacher Nation.

00:33:30
Speaker 1: See you next time, See you next time, guys.

00:33:32
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Amy, Thank you so much everyone.

00:33:36
Speaker 2: So fun to talk to you, so much fun.