Lunatics Library 13 - Ouija Stories

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to another episode of the lunatics radio hour podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Abby Brinker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with Alan KU Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we have a lunatics library episode for you featuring we just stories.

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<v Speaker 1>We, we Jew and I realized, I say, I say Weegee, I think pretty exclusively in the history episode, do you think it's supposed to be Weegee, but I'm just culturally we say Weegee.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what it was originally intended to be really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>So how's it, but then why do we say we G

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<v Speaker 1>Like squeegee, but

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<v Speaker 2>Do you spell squeegee completely differently?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't cover, we didn't cover the pronunciation and the history of it,

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<v Speaker 2>But that seems like an oversight.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, oversights are us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>That is our specialty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our tagline.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have two very different from each other, but very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Weegee stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So our first one is actually an excerpt from a 1918 nonfiction work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>About somebody's real experience with a talking board.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from 1918, correct?

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And very exciting that Nadia rasa of one to a thousand is going to be our first reader.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't remember, we've talked about one to a thousand a bit in recent episodes because they have an artist magazine, very similar to lunatics magazine that we produce, but it's filled with contributor pieces and they actually just posted on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>They got like the magazines and to ship out cool.

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<v Speaker 1>They're huge.

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<v Speaker 1>They're amazing quality.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first time they have a physical printing.

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<v Speaker 1>They look like

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<v Speaker 2>Stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>Like a book, like an art book.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, really nice pages.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were saying it's like six by six by 11 feet.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, but still really, really nice, really solid, really thick, you know, so I have work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's being featured in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited to get my hands on a copy.

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<v Speaker 1>So go to one to a thousand.co to check out what they're doing, because it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're about to hear Nadia read this story and she's just such an amazing artist.

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<v Speaker 1>So we should all support her and JL Shabbat, who is her partner at one to a thousand any way we can

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<v Speaker 2>When searching for one to a thousand is that numbers are written out, written out so one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To a thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're one to a thousand on Instagram as well, which is always a good way to support people that

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<v Speaker 2>You like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's an awesome reader.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>This

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<v Speaker 1>Is an excerpt from the seven purposes and experience in psychic phenomena by Margaret Cameron.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in the public domain as it was originally published in 1918.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not going to give too much more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, uh, something that happens early on in the piece, but I'm very excited to have Nadia read it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll the tape

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<v Speaker 3>Purposes by Margaret Cameron red Rouse.

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<v Speaker 4>My first serious attempt to establish communication through Pleshette with a person or persons and a life beyond ours was made Sunday morning, March 3rd, 1918, not so very serious and attempt either for anticipated no success and was not without a humorous appreciation of my position.

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<v Speaker 4>Sitting with my hand on a toy, inviting communication with celestial powers.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember laughing a little as I pictured the sardonically with which certain of my friends would be likely to regard such a proceeding.

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps this is as good a time as any to say that I was seeking a stranger.

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<v Speaker 4>I never saw Frederick.

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<v Speaker 4>When our friendship with his parents began, they lived in one city, we in another and he, and a third and more distant one where he was first a reporter and later a political and editorial writer on the staff of a leading newspaper.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew that he was young, successful, a bachelor and singularly devoted to his family as they, to him.

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<v Speaker 4>But as habits of thought and speech had never been described to me at first, because it was expected that we would meet and in the much closer intimacy of her later acquaintance, because the pain of his loss was so pregnant that no member of the family could speak of him with composure.

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<v Speaker 4>I had never seen a photograph of him even after perhaps 20 minutes during which Blanchette did not move.

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<v Speaker 4>I left the paper, a roll of blank wallpaper called lining paper, which I found years ago to offer the most continuous and satisfactory surface for use with Blanchette spread over the table and went into another room intending to return later.

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<v Speaker 4>But I forgot it.

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<v Speaker 4>And only when I was putting things in order for the night, did I reenter that room?

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<v Speaker 4>And remember my promise to you, Mrs.

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<v Speaker 4>Gaylord, I decided to make one more attempt that I might be able to tell her positively that I had been unsuccessful.

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<v Speaker 4>All other members of the household were away CAS at Atlantic city recuperating from an illness.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was a really alone in the apartment for some minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Pichette was motionless, but almost immediately I felt the curious sense of vitality.

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<v Speaker 4>Very difficult to describe that precedes movement.

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<v Speaker 4>It is like touching something alive and feeling its latent power.

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<v Speaker 4>Presently.

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<v Speaker 4>It began to move.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, no exact record of those first messages was kept in this record of them as taken from my letters to cast written immediately after each interview and from the typewritten record began a week or 10 days afterward in which was included.

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<v Speaker 4>What I could remember of details, not written to him at first, there was little capitalization, but within a few days, capitals were freely used the punctuation throughout husband added except in cases noted.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a letter dated Monday morning, March 4th, instead of doing the usual loop sort of thing, it made straight runs across the table.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked, are you ready to write?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Then as nearly as I can remember, it went like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you Frederick?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you Mary Kendall?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you an lo?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Did I know you in life here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Recently?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you my father at this at ran sharply towards me point first, but for some time did not reply perhaps because I so hoped it would write.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Eventually.

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<v Speaker 4>However, it wrote a very clear and uncompromising.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you tell me who you are?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Mary Mary Kendall.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Which Mary, what?

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<v Speaker 4>Mary.

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<v Speaker 4>Mary followed by a character that might have been either Kay or age, but looked more like Kay, Mary Kendall.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me again, Mary Kay.

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<v Speaker 4>Mary Kay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Punch.

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<v Speaker 4>It was down at the lower right-hand corner of the table.

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<v Speaker 4>When I asked the last question and then swung to the center, writing that yes, very quickly and firmly.

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<v Speaker 4>My Mary Kay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Her name was Mary Catherine M but I always called her Mary Kay.

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<v Speaker 4>She has been dead 16 years or more over and over.

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<v Speaker 4>She insisted that she was Mary Kay sometimes in pauses with the Castro's hardly moving at all.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing would write Mary and tiny script.

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<v Speaker 4>But round and clear, I asked if there were any message and it wrote MUN trailing off into a series of waves.

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<v Speaker 4>A good many times.

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<v Speaker 4>I guessed Monday money, months fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Always.

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<v Speaker 4>The answer was no.

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<v Speaker 4>Finally it wrote man.

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<v Speaker 4>Very clearly.

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<v Speaker 4>I could not get more for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Finally came many things.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for what for knowing.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked a Frederick or Ann were there no.

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<v Speaker 4>Any message?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>For whom breath trailing off again this several times brother.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Where Albany, his name?

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<v Speaker 4>James.

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<v Speaker 4>James M no.

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<v Speaker 4>This was confusing.

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<v Speaker 4>Where beginning, apparently with you, the writing trailed off finally made out United, but no more than I remembered that Mary Kay's only brother was killed in an accident years before she over herself.

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<v Speaker 4>I said so.

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<v Speaker 4>And the thing began making loops that used to be plunged shuts way of laughing at me.

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<v Speaker 4>Why do you say that joke?

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<v Speaker 4>This was not at all like Mary Kay.

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<v Speaker 4>She had a fine mind and was not given to buffoonery.

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<v Speaker 4>I have since thought that she might have been trying to get over a message to some other person's brother.

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<v Speaker 4>And you get word from Frederick Gaylord?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Will you come again?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you been trying all these years to get in touch with me?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Will you help me make a bridge between those on your side and those here?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Then immediately it went back and wrote yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the no, very curious.

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<v Speaker 4>After a long pause, I said I would go to bed if there was nothing more and it wrote quickly go.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, good night, good night.

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<v Speaker 4>God bless you.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked again, if this were Mary Kay and got the same quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I put plunge shot away and came out to my room.

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<v Speaker 4>It was one o'clock three.

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<v Speaker 4>Before I went to sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine anything more weird than my sitting here alone in the middle of the night, without things fairly racing under my fingers part of the time insisting, it was nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>I expected claiming to be a very dear old friend, but the last I should expect under the circumstances, it was certainly, but I am very sure something outside of myself was doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I shall try again tonight from a letter dated Monday evening, March 4th, I have just had another amazing try upon Chet this time.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Mary Kendall writing one word at a time, let mans know I am here.

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<v Speaker 4>She gave me several intimate messages for him.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I finally said I would write and ask him to come so she could tell him herself.

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<v Speaker 4>She wrote yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you make of this?

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't it the strangest thing you ever heard of in the midst of her?

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<v Speaker 4>Talk?

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<v Speaker 4>Another hand took hold very brisk and energetic.

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<v Speaker 4>Not Mary.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps Frederick yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Message.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, mother.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything more happy more yet only love.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he was gone and Mary came again, writing miss a messenger.

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<v Speaker 4>Many times later, Frederick interrupted to write one word family.

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<v Speaker 4>Then another hand began writing Annie Manning over and over and tell Manning.

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<v Speaker 4>I said that I knew no Manning how to find him answer question and did not know what that meant.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a lot more, but I am too tired to write it tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Begay Lord telephone.

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<v Speaker 4>Tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>She is either coming to New York Thursday or going to Atlantic city.

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<v Speaker 4>If I am there, this is the most amazing thing that has ever to me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had, it was as if several were trying to talk at once.

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<v Speaker 4>I am almost afraid to have BG come yet.

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<v Speaker 4>It was for her sake that I began this.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems to indefinite and unsatisfactory, but at least she can be sure I am not faking it something outside of me does it.

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<v Speaker 1>So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that got me.

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<v Speaker 2>Got you.

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<v Speaker 2>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the nonfiction aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, also I guess I didn't really understand how we do works.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I should say this is planned chat writing, so it's a little bit different, which

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<v Speaker 2>It seems, it seems like the way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's faster, but I wonder if it's,

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<v Speaker 2>Did we tartar Blanchett writing in the episode a

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<v Speaker 1>Little, like we talked about the Chinese history with Fuji, which is planned Chet writing.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, it's very similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Also the first plan Chet in France was derived from plan chat writing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally a plan chat with like a writing utensil in the top.

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<v Speaker 1>So the users are still pushing around the plan chat in the same way they would across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's usually over like scrolls.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no, there's no board with letters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe, you know, like the mediums would write like yes or no, like on their scrolls to have like easy, quick things to write out.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the plant sheds actually physically writing out the words, but of course your hands are still on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting because yeah, because my one experience with Weegee with everyone has their hands on the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you just wait for someone to start moving it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was a solo user.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's uh, that's also the weird bit, just like you're all by yourself doing this and it's still like writing stuff out for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it begs the question, right?

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<v Speaker 1>How much of it is unconscious?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the w like, honestly, like why is it doing anything that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There are also like plan, chat, writing situations where people have multiple hands on it, the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you would a spirit board, but this one obviously was a solo person.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's gotta be, if you have like multiple hands on it and it's still writing out words that spooky.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should try that sometime

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<v Speaker 2>Also though.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's, I would, this story kind of got me back on the Weegee bandwagon, really?

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<v Speaker 2>Not back on, I guess, on possibly for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it seemed mildly plausible.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe I'll get you a plan chat writing machine for the holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Typewriter

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I just want to say Nadia rasa did an awesome job reading that it was, you know, sometimes when you have older pieces, it can be a little tricky, but she did a great job reading.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She did a fantastic job.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's half the reason why I'm so sold.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Nadia convinced you

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<v Speaker 2>This, this honestly just sounded like a fur.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>A firsthand account.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I believed Nadia as the character of the, of who wrote it, Margaret.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, as soon as it turned out to be Mary Kay, I was totally waiting for the ghost to start trying to sell her lipstick cosmetics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're like, um, redacted, right?

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<v Speaker 1>The real names of some of the characters are redacted because they're real.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why it's like Mary Kay.

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<v Speaker 1>Annie L I C.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that again because it's a really true flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the last episode, we spent a lot of time talking about Weegee and the spiritualist movement, and this is right in that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think it gives good context to how people were thinking about it at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, how on earth did you find someone's like at 1918 journal of their little Weegee experience,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a full book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a full published, not or not novel, but published book of her, of her experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>But project Gutenberg is where I find a lot of the public domain stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out project Gutenberg.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're ever looking for like historical novels, but also just firsthand accounts of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that could be in the public domain is on project Gutenberg or fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>Resource.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you just want to read a cool book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's all free, free PDFs things that you can access love project Greenberg.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we move on to the next scary plan?

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<v Speaker 1>Chat story?

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<v Speaker 1>How scary are we talking?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we G story?

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, oh, oh, pretty mild.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty mild.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote this one and I'll admit pretty mild, but I get

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<v Speaker 2>Ready for thrills and chills.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's got some atmosphere to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being you

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<v Speaker 2>For, you've read some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>Spooky stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>If you're curious on just how spooky these stories can get, feel free to check out horror stories by Abby Brinker.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the, thank you for the plug.

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<v Speaker 1>You can buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on Amazon and it's on Etsy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's links in our website.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the plug out.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you can, you can find it simply by Googling horror stories.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's the name of the book

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<v Speaker 2>You're

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<v Speaker 1>Going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>Dig a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean you can it's I guarantee you, if you just type in horror stories and you click next on Google

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<v Speaker 1>A million times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's hard to tell if you're making fun of me or not, but here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>No,

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<v Speaker 1>No, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard it here first.

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<v Speaker 1>So this next story is one that I wrote, as we mentioned, and it's read by our dear friend.

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<v Speaker 1>So shall we roll the tape, please do.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Abby breaker read by Kevin Murphy.

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<v Speaker 5>I still remember the address.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, all these years later it was five 15 street.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't that have a nice ring to it.

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<v Speaker 5>I had seen the ad in the newspaper and was desperate to see a real life medium in person.

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<v Speaker 5>Her name was Guild of Roberts.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a stage name, but it had a nice ring to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Mediums were all the rage back then.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember I put on my best suit.

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<v Speaker 5>Not that it was very nice, but my church suit, you know, the best I had, I was nervous and excited.

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<v Speaker 5>I was glad I dressed well because when I arrived, I realized how ritzy the place was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was the nicest house I'd ever seen.

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<v Speaker 5>The five 15 on the door was inlaid with gold.

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<v Speaker 5>And there were these huge copper lanterns out front.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember thinking someday, I want to be rich enough to live in a house with copper lanterns.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a brownstone.

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<v Speaker 5>So there were steps leading up to the front door.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt out of place.

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<v Speaker 5>Even from outside, I could sort of see the silhouettes of the people inside the windows setting up.

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<v Speaker 5>I stood there for a few moments, too anxious to knock, but you aren't going to believe me.

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<v Speaker 5>But when I finally got up the courage to go in, I raised my fist and right before I could bring it to the wooden door, it just opened not wide, barely an inch that made me even more nervous.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the etiquette.

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<v Speaker 5>When a ghost opens the door for you, was I supposed to just walk in while I did?

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<v Speaker 5>And no one even noticed the maid and Butler were running around like chickens with their heads cut off, trying to get the place ready.

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<v Speaker 5>They were dragging arm chairs and dining chairs and Ottomans into a half moon shape in the parlor.

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<v Speaker 5>Once they saw me, they ushered me in without question.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember though, they put me in a very specific chair.

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<v Speaker 5>It was four over from the left.

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<v Speaker 5>I wondered why as each new person arrived, they sat them in random chairs too.

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<v Speaker 5>Like they were trying to balance our energy or something.

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<v Speaker 5>I never did ask them about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't remember how long it took them to set up, but it was getting dark before they started things off.

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<v Speaker 5>They drew the front curtains closed and broad.

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<v Speaker 5>What seemed like hundreds of lit candles into the room.

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<v Speaker 5>I was annoyed when they extinguished the roaring fire though, I was freezing.

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<v Speaker 5>It must've been January or February.

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<v Speaker 5>I could see my breath inside.

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<v Speaker 5>Once they were all set up, the Butler went to the front of the room to address all of us.

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<v Speaker 5>There was about, I don't know, 10 or so people there wide variety to a few older folks and a few that were younger than me.

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<v Speaker 5>I would have been 20 or so.

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<v Speaker 5>So pretty young teenagers.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to realize it might seem hokey now, but at the time it was such a big deal.

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<v Speaker 5>There were newspapers dedicated to this.

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<v Speaker 5>I would read about mediums.

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<v Speaker 5>Every chance I could get it all seemed so romantic.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so thrilling to be sitting there.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember the butterflies in my stomach.

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<v Speaker 5>The Butler walked us through what to they'd clearly done this before.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a dramatic pause and then Gilda finally revealed herself.

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<v Speaker 5>She was absolutely nothing like I expected no sun and moon rings on her fingers.

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<v Speaker 5>No drapery fabrics.

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<v Speaker 5>She looked sort of plain.

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<v Speaker 5>She was wearing a modest black shift.

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<v Speaker 5>She had short well-groomed blonde hair, nothing remarkable or stylish, nothing like the other women I was reading about in the periodicals.

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<v Speaker 5>But I liked that about her.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like maybe we could be friends.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, we did not end up being friends.

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<v Speaker 5>She came into the parlor and everyone got really quiet.

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<v Speaker 5>They had a table set up for her in the front with some small items on it.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the first time I'd seen a talking board.

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<v Speaker 5>She sat smack dab in the center of the robe chairs.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember she pulled the table over to her so that it was in front of her.

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<v Speaker 5>I was impressed.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been hearing a lot of mediums had fake props and such hidden under the tables, but she just dragged it to her.

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<v Speaker 5>We'd have seen if something was under it.

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<v Speaker 5>She bowed her head for a quick minute.

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<v Speaker 5>As if she was praying, then she sat up straight and took the hands of the people on her left and right.

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<v Speaker 5>She nodded down the line and everyone else quickly linked hands to then everyone got quiet.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a strange feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't sure what to expect.

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<v Speaker 5>I was scared, but not in a bad way.

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<v Speaker 5>More anticipation.

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<v Speaker 5>Really.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember the candle on Gilda's table started to flicker more than just the normal candle flicker.

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<v Speaker 5>It was really moving, moving in an unnatural way.

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<v Speaker 5>That's when I realized something was about to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Then all of the candles around the room started to flicker harder to a few of the people in the group started to look really frightened.

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<v Speaker 5>I was along for the ride.

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<v Speaker 5>Gilda said, who have you come to talk to?

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<v Speaker 5>I almost screamed.

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<v Speaker 5>I was so caught off guard.

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<v Speaker 5>When the little objects on the table started to move on their own.

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<v Speaker 5>My first thought was, it must be magnetic, some sort of parlor trick, but there was no cloth on the table.

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<v Speaker 5>I could see that nothing was below.

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<v Speaker 5>They were just moving, gliding across the table.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a plan Chet.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know what it was back then.

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<v Speaker 5>But now I do of course, a plan Chet sliding across a talking board with the Butler, taking down the letters.

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<v Speaker 5>It touched on a small pad.

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<v Speaker 5>After a moment, it paused and he read aloud.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>Gilda looked alarmed.

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<v Speaker 5>So I felt alarmed how odd she said, how truly bizarre what's wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>A few people asked.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember her saying, it's very unusual for spirits to come through with a communal message.

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<v Speaker 5>Unheard of really.

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<v Speaker 5>She cleared her throat and try it again.

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<v Speaker 5>What is your message for us?

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 5>The board sat still for a moment.

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<v Speaker 5>And then the plant shed moved quite quickly, almost urgently.

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<v Speaker 5>L E a V E N O w as the Butler read it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Three people got up to go.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't sure what to make of it all.

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<v Speaker 5>It seemed theatrical, but I couldn't figure out the trick.

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<v Speaker 5>I was starting to think Gilda was the real deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Gilda was clearly flustered.

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<v Speaker 5>This is my home and I will certainly not be.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember she was cut off the board, sprang to life again, N O w half the room emptied.

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<v Speaker 5>It was chaos.

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<v Speaker 5>As people fumbled in the dark for their coats, the Butler didn't leave Gilda side.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, just get that out of your head.

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<v Speaker 5>I will not be leaving and you are scaring off my guests without a moment of hesitation.

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<v Speaker 5>The board responded, the indicator started circling the letters, N O w with no break in between.

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<v Speaker 5>It just went around and around, faster and faster.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, now, now I felt like perhaps it was time to go, but I didn't stand.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know if it was the intrigue of what would happen next or the fear, but I was routed to my seat.

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<v Speaker 5>Only one other guest remained an older gentleman with the handlebar mustache.

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<v Speaker 5>We exchanged nervous, glances enough, Gil.

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<v Speaker 5>The tried the board listened, it stopped silence.

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<v Speaker 5>She took a deep sigh of relief, but it was short-lived.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'll never know how it started.

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<v Speaker 5>If it was an accident with so many candles in the room or a malicious act from the other side.

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<v Speaker 5>But the curtains in the back of the room caught fire.

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<v Speaker 5>Gilda screamed in the Butler, sprang for water, but it was too late in an instant.

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<v Speaker 5>The front wall was a flame in another instant.

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<v Speaker 5>The ceiling caught these old houses.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the adrenaline hit me and I rushed toward the door, pulling the older gentlemen with me.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember shouting, get out.

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<v Speaker 5>We must leave.

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<v Speaker 5>Now there's nothing to be done.

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<v Speaker 5>We all escaped onto the street and watch as the firefighters finally arrived and did what they could, but the house was quite burned.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't imagine the cost in damages, but I do know that regardless of the intention, that board sent us a warning and I'll never use one again.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy cannoli Murph did an amazing job reading.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I, he did w and it's actually comical.

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<v Speaker 2>How good of a job he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, because every time we record something or literally anyone sends us, you know, it's unedited people take bits back, redo pieces every time, uh, Kevin Murphy reads for us, he just sends like, here's a perfect read.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to send a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect read.

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<v Speaker 2>No flood.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting too.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause Nadia actually did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had a very good luck this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to edit any anybody's submissions, but how do people do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're just bad at it, but people do a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob, actually, Bob Don was telling me recently, and one of his recent episodes that he was reading this like historic story in the first 20 minutes of it were just one take, which I just can't even wrap my head around.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems impossible to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>20 minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin did an amazing job.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we've talked about this before, but it's really a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very lovely to have really good readers read something that you've written and kind of bring their own personality to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I, I did love his, uh, his performance, especially for the,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a wonderful, wonderful voice for her, but your

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<v Speaker 2>Story was very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like that one a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, I D every so often I could hear your voice popping through, which was kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, but then you, you, you surprise me where seven characters.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I, I got completely lost for a moment that this was a story by you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good.

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<v Speaker 1>This was actually the frame of this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of a scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I lifted from a novel that I started, like, I don't know, 10 years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I was like, I think I have a scene with a talking board and I didn't, but I had this seance scene.

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<v Speaker 1>So I sort of took it

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<v Speaker 2>Novel.

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<v Speaker 2>You were reading or

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<v Speaker 1>No writing.

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<v Speaker 1>Writing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't plagiarize it.

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<v Speaker 2>You wrote a novel 10 years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, not a full one.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have like a few, a few chapters, but this was something that happens in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I just feel like it takes place in the spiritualist movement.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, ah, you know, it feels like a fitting thing, Trey visit for this, for this week.

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<v Speaker 1>This

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<v Speaker 2>Was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I really liked the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you again to Nadia and Kevin, please visit one to a thousand.co to see some of the awesome work that Nadia and JL Shabbat are working on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're huge fans as always.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of fun with this.

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<v Speaker 1>We G we jet little series.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a cool way to transition from Halloween season to true November autumn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And also this, I think this was a perfect example of like a history, a pretty, a pretty steeped history episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Cause it's not like we're talking about like mythical beasts or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like this is just like facts and dates and this is a thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we do the, the stories and it really comes to life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is ironic because the first story was non-fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was fraying at the time, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it does give a, another to the context.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one thing to like read through the facts and figures, but it's another to hear about somebody's firsthand, you know, experience from that time period.

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<v Speaker 1>All this is to say it was a beautiful spread.

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<v Speaker 1>Yay.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you all listeners enjoyed it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being here until next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye.