BIGFOOT ENCOUNTER FROM WYOMING | IT STOOD UP FROM THE POND

Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. In this video,
we have Justin from Wyoming and he wanted to share his bigfoot encounters and experiences
that took place near Yellowstone and the Missouri area. Justin has had multiple bigfoot
encounters like myself, and it does make me wonder if certain people are targeted
by these creatures. You will often hear people say that they have hunted and
camped all over North America and they have never seen or heard anything in their
life. When I check the comments and see people's feedback, you will often
get people who say, I have lived in the Mark Twain National Forest or
the Daniel Boone National Forest, whatever it may be, for forty years and
I have never experienced anything. I think these creatures get spotted at the most
random times and they choose to reveal themselves to certain people for whatever reasons.
You will hear the same type of activity with the paranormal and people claim that
no matter where they moved to, these entities seem to follow them. Is
bigfoot, paranormal or a shape shifter. It's pretty strange. They would need
to hunt for food or find cover to survive with the research I have done,
it appears these beings are both. They are physical creatures that depend on
the land to survive, and they have a supernatural side of them. And
it's not something you can just listen to a podcast or hear a Native American
talk about and simply just believe. Come to this conclusion when you get out
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with all that being said, let's dive into Justin's bigfoot encounters from the state
of Wyoming here on Sasquatch Theory. All right, Justin, welcome to ask
Watch Theory. How are you doing today? Good? How are you,
Miguel, I'm doing excellent. Thank you so much. For asking justin if
you would tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and
your bigfoot encounters and experiences from the very beginning. Please well. I grew
up in central Wyoming. I moved around a little bit. My team's on
up. I've lived in Montana a couple of places up there, the Buildings
area of Largeria. I lived in Missouri, the Springfield area that's Romant my
wife. About nine years ago we had moved to Mesa, Arizona, then
back at to Wyoming. I enjoy the outdoors. Just turned fifty recently.
I love the fishing and exploring the outdoors, especially the mountains areas. Enjoy
looking at and watching the wildlife. I got a lot of that going on
here, just God's creation pretty much. I just enjoy all of it to
try to at least Yeah, that is very cool. I enjoyed the outdoors
as well. What was your first bigfoot encounter? When did you notice the
activity? Kind of put me in your shoes and guide me through. What
happened about March of nineteen ninety three, and I remember it as if it
was just yesterday. It was south central Montana. I went fishing at a
local pond, which it's parallel to a river up there, well known river.
And the three years that I'd already been living there, locals people that
I would meet would say, never go down there by yourself, and always
be careful. There's something down there. They would just never say what it
was because they didn't know exactly. But you get this weird feelings sometimes you
walk around the little paths that are down there that you're being watched or you're
being followed, real creepy feelings, and sometimes you just get the filing out
to go back in there. Just stay on the side where there was hardly
any trees or in the parking areas, and don't go exploring type of thing.
Well, one morning I went down there and decided I want to go
fishing. About nine o'clock. When I got there, nobody else was there,
and it was the back part of the pond. There's two areas we
need to park, and I just started going back park and sat under this
tree and you could see the fish, and decided to go fishing while there
was a light sprinkle of rain lasted a few minutes. I think too much
of it. It was nice. I'm sitting there fishing just caught a fish,
and I'd heard some splashing coming off to my left across the pond.
Did think too much of it? Thought it was some local dogs that were
at this ranch house. It was there, see them every now and then.
They du'ty's make a raucous and do think that much of it? I
heard this lush and again what the hex? So I looked up and probably
about seventy five eighty yards from me, this huge, massive thing stood up
out of the water, walked over to the shore, and it was covered
in auburn hair. And I'm sitting there looking at it as a thinking to
myself, this can't be real. These things don't exist. The first thing
that came to mind was Harry and the Hendersons. And I'm in shock.
And I could make out the facial expression of the face pretty well, was
a brown colored face, flat, flat knowledge. You could see the conical
shaped head, really massive. I remember this in height and with and just
paral sized chest. And I'm getting nervous. I stand up. It stops,
It made a few steps, stops and looks right at me. I'm
getting my stuff together, putting my stuff away, and it takes upon another
three steps stops and looks right at me to it's right, and I start
to back up, and I'm watching this the whole time, thinking this thing
can just come run over to this foot bridge and just take me anytime that
wants to, and sitting there watching it, watching it, and I'm backing
up, and eventually just you could hear it going through the tree line,
the standing on the branches and the footfalls. It reminded me of hearing the
Budweiser Flightsdale's coming down the street out of parade. You could I couldn't feel
it, but you could hear the footfalls, and it finally faded up into
the tree line. I had it back to the parking lot, which wasn't
too far away, and this guy pulls up and a pickup and I looked
at him and gets and I said, did you see that? He said,
yeah, I see those all the time. Kind of strange, okay,
And I left and went home and told my brother and told my folks
and some friends and what night saw him there, I'll besbs And they're giving
me a hard time about it, and like, you didn't see that,
and you're just making it up. Well, I finally convinced my brother and
our friend that we had at the time, his name was Steve. To
take me back down there and I'll show them, right I saw this thing.
So we go back down there the next day. Now, mind is
Steve. He's about six foot five, really tall, skinny guy. We
go down there and I'm over where I was fishing and then yelling across the
pond where this thing was. And they walk over there and I said,
well, walked under that tree right there, and I had Steve. I
said, get up on that stump there and raise your hand. I'll sure
you how tall this thing was. He'd done just that. He raises raised
his hand, and I said, stop right there. I came back around
and we had measured it to be about nine foot tall, probably about five
foot at the shoulders, and the arms were longer than the waist, and
the way it walked it pick up its feet differently than what a person would.
We had town some footprints and we measured them to be nineteen inches long
and about eight inches wide, and about five foot five feet between each footstep.
Just soft enough ground for them. Believe the impressions, and everybody just
kind of my brother and our friends kind of just swallowed their pride. I
said, I told you this thing was real. I said, I'm not
going back down there. I would I wouldn't return by myself whatsoever. It
took me about a year before i'd even go back down there, and I
tried sharing the story because most people didn't believe me. But I told my
said, that's what's down there, and it was a well wooded area,
and he had some wildlife down there, and you could tell this thing or
be able to survive, and there was probably more of them, but that
was the only time I saw one there and never heard of any other stories
from people that they just never knew it was in that area, but they
knew it was creepy. Well ended up moving out of Montana and came back
up to Wyoming and my hometown I grew up, and along in the town
is two rivers would join on the south side of town. Well warded the
area for miles and miles and miles on end going in, going to the
west and going to the south, and a lot of prairie, a lot
of rolling hills, a lot of caves, and nineteen ninety six discover these
two new ponds, or fairly new ponds, and then my stepdad go fishing,
and as well, you also have these two rivers and where they join.
There was just one area on north side of the river that I would
just get nervous and wouldn't go any further, wouldn't discovered, go discover anything
else, and started to have memories of my buildings encounter thinking now I just
can't be there, can't be. But I was getting the same nauseating feeling
that something was watching me. Well, we went fishing and I stepped that
a night, and we come to this point and I said, I don't
feel comfortable going to anythel. He said, oh, it's all right,
don't worry about it's all in your head. Well, we go down the
embankment of the river and probably about eight or ten foot slide down this hill
and come to the bottom and to my right was this huge hole that was
dug out and it stink really bad like peces and rotting deer, and my
stomach just turned upside down and you could see the branches and leaves that were
all mad it down and hold several long black hairs mouted up, thinking please
don't let it be, don't let it be in on it, but there's
no bears in the area at the time. We didn't have no moose in
the area. We do now every now and then you hear sort of a
moose being around the area, but moose don't dig out holes and burrow in
them. And it was big enough I was. I just haunched ho when
I climbed back into this thing a little bit and like, ooh, it's
dunk and I got out. Well, we proceeded to go down to the
river, which wasn't too far away, and footprints in the mud and I
pointed them out, and my stepped and said, oh, don't worry about
it, there's nothing there, and just you're just misreading it and looking into
it wrong. Well, he proceeded to go fishing at this river, and
I proceeded to start looking across the river into the tree line and saw something
swaying behind the tree, back and forth, back and forth, probably about
fifty sixty yards of way. And it was solid black, huge, just
like this other thing one canna wise. You could see the conquer shaped head,
white at the shoulders, barrel chested, and it was it was holding
the tree about shoulder height and they're just swaying back and forth on the side
of the side of the tree, and I pointed it out that I said
that, I said, there it is. That's what's watching this. So
we he saw it. We both got out of there. We went back
to the car and left and I didn't have any other encounter there for really
a long time. But you get nervous going down into this arewhere they pond
in. This river was the two rivers. So I had moved gone on
with my wife, had some stuff that happened. I moved about nine years
ago. I met my wife in spring from Missouri. I went out there
and uh, just start over with my wife. Uh. Anyways, that's
a different story. And uh, he got the little Sack River that runs
close to there. You have a couple of lakes spotted kind of scattered up
there, and h I mean this preacher that I had met, he wanted
to do all guys, all kids fishing trip one summer. So we all
called in the church van and we went up to this lake and come to
this sea intersection, and we had the windows rolled down and we'd smelled this
very bad, rotting, stinky smell that I remember, and the guy in
the passenger seat. The first thing he said, because we're all they're talking
about and stains and the preachers, you know, he's saying, what can
it be? And the first thing that this guy in the passenger seat said
was bigfoot. And I said, I agree with you because I've smelled that
before and didn't think too much of it. And we went about our fishing
trip, and I came back and I started to do some research on the
internet and well, and behold, there are sightings out at this lake area
and along the river, the Little Sack River there. Well, flash forward
a couple of years and I had this fishing body. We decided that he
wanted to go after some white pass at the spawning season, and we went
out to the same lake, just different location, launched off his boat there
and went up to the Little Sack River to go to this fishing spot,
and coming under this old train trestle, he had you kind of go slow
through there. You don't have to speed through there, just enjoy the day
and the outdoors and really tense, and I felt like something you're watching us.
And I just start scanning the tree line and didn't see nothing, but
you could hear these grunks coming from behind these trees, three four different locations,
all bunched up, and my guy just sucked, please, don't,
don't, don't, don't. Wow, whatever it was didn't mess with us.
But you knew that they were there, and I believe it was a
group of sasquatch. And my friend said, yeah, he goes through there
and he gets nervous every time he goes through there, and went a better,
a better fishing journey and coming back same feeling. Just a short little
span of probably just a couple of minutes that you're going through there, and
like I couldn't wait to get out there. We got out of there,
that was flying whilst this is where I really started to get into researching these
beings and you know, listening to everybody I could. But since then I've
about five six years, probably about six years researching on the internet and trying
to figure this out what these things could be and why they do what they
do, and how they act and how they behave and how they interact with
people. And here's stories of ones that aren't harmful, in your stories ones
that are harmful, and trying to narrow it down to certain people that I
listened to and came across your YouTube channel, and like, I like listening
to the stories of other people and sam things. And I listened to Steve
hdl at how to listen to him reading people's stories and very interesting how these
things behave and the difference in them and the locations where they're found. And
so just try to take all this thame and try to soak all this in
and decipher for myself and put the pieces of the puzzle together, and going
down this rabbit hole has just really changed my life. And from the very
first first one that I saw, like make sure wethink about what's out there
and what's real and what's not what else there could be. And my wife
and I we moved from Spring Films or we got married out there, and
moved down to Mesa, Arizona, and hear stories of the being down there
in the Superstition Mountain Range and I'm ongoing ridge. I forget how they pronounced
that. I might have pronounced that long. But we didn't do any research
down there. We didn't, I mean, we didn't go looking for or
any and just stayed to the city for the most part. Well, we
decided to move back up here where I grew up at four years ago,
and I was kind of anxious and kind of scared at the same time of
going back to where I saw this second one of my stepdads. Wow,
I'll work up the nerve and you know, kind of get out of my
mind that I'll be okay. So we go down there, park and and
tell my wife about all this stuff whatever nonsense. You know, they don't
they're not real well. On our journey back to Wyoming, we had passed
through the town of Buffalo and come to this campground we wanted to stop at,
and we didn't have an RV, so we couldn't stay. And off
the side of the dirt road, you could see these huge excorbinations of these
trees where the branches are broken off, and these trees are probably about thirty
feet in line from they made perfect exits standing up and yeah, about wist
heighth. Some of these other trees were broken right off. And these trees
ten twelve inches in diameter, maybe maybe a little bit bigger, and you
can see where they're snapped right off. So I told her, I said,
well, that's sasquatch's behavior. From what I understand. People don't go
around doing this. They can't. It's impossible, and I don't know of
anybody that can. Maybe the super weightlifter could, I don't know. Well,
get back to my hometown and we eventually go down to these ponds and
I had just getting nervous. It just nervous. But we do our thing.
We'll go fishing and nothing, nothing, nothing for the first several months.
And we had found out that there were more pawns that were added,
man made pawns, and that they were all stocked with face. And so
instead of turning off to go to these were these first two pawns where there's
three now and continue on the road turned into a dirt road and takes you
back to these other poms, nine in total. And uh come to the
very end of the dirt road, and you know, said there's pads that
were made where people could walk. We'll exploring, take their dogs, whatever,
bicycles, whatever. And I said, nah, I'm not going to
go down these paths. I just don't feel like it. Well, she
says, my wife says, well, let's look more into this. Let's
see what there is down here. So we decided spend the night down there
in our car. I wasn't about to go into a tan. Now the
windows cracked open, and it was nice out summer, and started to get
this feeling that there was something around watching us. I knew what it was,
and I didn't say nothing to my wife. She replies the later on
that she too had the same feeling, and I told her, I said,
well, that's task watch. That's what they do. They make you
nervous when you're near them. Just your sixth sense is kicking in. And
there's a mountains an area, and they don't make me feel that way.
There's moss in area, they don't make me feel that way. There's no
bearers, thankfully, nothing else makes me feel like this. Well, there
used to be some rancher used to keep a small herd of cattle down there
by, about fifty sixty head of cattle. And I kind of graves on
the wall grass down there. And one night we're sitting down there in this
spot, very into this dirt road, and these at midnight they waked me
up, these cattle or rushing past us, including the four bulls that were
in the herd, and they're got you gotta go through these seamount blocks to
get to the path. And they're all squeezing through this little area anxiously in
there make them out of noise, and they sounded like something that scared them.
Well back in the direction or the road bends, you could hear this
one cow and you could hear her calf, and you could hear the calf.
It's really loud, and it was very nerve wracking, very nervous.
Hear this very scary. And you could literally hear this calf the sound that
was making in the opposite direction, and this barbed wire fence were in the
opposite direction. But the mother cow was stilled her on the road. She
couldn't get across the fence. And three or four minutes passed, and all
of a sudden, you didn't hear nothing from this cat, just dead silence.
There's no bugs out there. You didn't hear nothing else. There's just
dead silence. That night, and the mother cow she on there. Later,
she finally came up and caught up with the rest of the herds.
The next day, we went over there, and we didn't see no signs
of anything, and we didn't go back in there looking. I was afraid
of what we might have found or what we could have found and what could
have done this my guess and I don't know because I have no proof.
We have no night vision camera, so I couldn't tell. And to me,
it seemed like something one thing that scared the cattle, heard of them
up, and something else was going to ambush them. These calves are about
a year old, so something caught this calf, picked it up and carried
it off. And there's only one thing that I could think of that they
could do that. And there was no drag marks, There was no blood
anywhere near this bab war fence. We looked up and down this fance area
and nothing. Well. As the next couple of the summers have passed rainfall
summer, we noticed getting the nerve to walk back on some of these paths.
There's days where like it could take the deep breath, there's nothing back
there. But there's other days where just you know something's watching you. There's
days where you don't even go back there. It just scares the hell out
of me. And I get to talking to other people, you know,
and they say same thing. And I met a few people that they themselves
have heard these things the sasquatched or they have seen them one guy walking his
dog. Another section of her this says, and he said, you know,
one day I was walking down there with my dog and I saw something
black unched over at the river. But he knew that it wasn't a bear,
but it sat there. He didn't move. When he came back,
it was gone. And I asked him, you know, what do you
think it was? He said, I don't know. And I kind of
got into the Sasquatch idea and he said, well, that would make sense
because he's heard stories about them. Well, back in this original area where
these pawns are, there's three or four different PAGA could take and walk around
back in there, and starting noticing some of these branches, some of them
as thick as my wrist or big as my arm, different heights four or
five feet off the ground. All they have to ten twelve feet off the
ground, twisted and snapped off and just hanging there. See a lot of
that. Started to notice smaller trees six the maybe ten inches in diameter,
laid up into other trees parallel, ten twelve feet off the ground, sometimes
even higher. I've seen two exformations down there. My wife and I came
across what we think is a dan all sorts of trees and branches bent in
and twisted and kind of interlocked in or rolling, and there's two ways to
get in and stick your head under there, and a good sized area for
something to hide in and lay down. There's I don't know if anybody's going
down there, and this thing is pretty tall. It's probably about fifteen feet
in height at the top and robbably eight to ten feet in diameter from the
inside. And I haven't anybody that can make that stuff. And you can't
get any tractors or vehicles back in there, just too small of an area,
and there's all blocked out for prevention of vehicles from getting back into these
areas. And we started to notice in the tall grass there's one area where
it looks like three large, very large eight ninth foot in length, maybe
longer, laid down in this grass, matched it down. It's down there,
and I can't way this grass down the same way it bands it pops
right back up. And this was laid down flat, and you can make
out almost a figure in each of these three spots. Frying footprints all the
time in usually in the sand, sometimes in the mud. Sometimes you can
make out the toes of hills, and some of them ranging between ten and
twelve inches, some of them up to sixteen seventeen inches several inches wide,
and one dad decided to one on this other path. I was just by
myself and something was just drawing me back into this area, and I heard
something parallel me and I stopped. It stopped the trees and trebbery right there,
and really couldn't tell and I walk. It would walk just perfectly with
me, and I stopped. I turned around with the other direction, and
it did the same thing. I see this clearing smaltering. I was able
to bend over and look back in there, and all I saw was a
pair of brown legs covered in hair, but not very much bigger than me,
so it's probably about six foot tall whatever it was. But no faces,
no, nothing like that. We would take random photos somehow, I
know. I think the photos. Some of these photos are saved from my
last phone. We were walking on this one path where this den was,
and I could where I see a face looking back at us through some of
the shrubbery, and it was very grotesque, and you can make out the
eyes and the nose and the mouths and there's hiding behind them of shrubber.
I don't know what it's called on I gotta figure what it's called. Is
just really thick stuff, and it's got some of us got thigns on it,
and you can't pass through it, but these things can with ease.
We've heard rocks clacking. I've seen walks stacked up down on the river bed.
There are geer occasional occasional moose, a lot of Canadian geese, beavers,
kunks, rabbits, foxes, a lot of small game fish of course,
so there's plenty of foods or trees, shrubbery. I don't know what
these things could be eating. You hear stories of them eating just about anything.
Seems like I don't give them. It's a raid to get really close
up responses. And again, we don't have any kind of night vision camera,
nothing like that, so we really can't. We're out there every now
and then. We also hear whoops. I've heard them going back and forth
between two of them from a distance. We've heard runts, we've heard yelps
different than what noises and what people other animals can make. I know what
these other animals sound like, and it's nothing like that. It's not he,
it's not those, it's not foxes, it's not eagles. And again
nowadays and my wife, I said, I'm just gonna go down here on
the river bed and then just go walking around. And there's our first see
these rocks stacked up, five or six rocks on this dead tree that is
laid over, and three stacks of them. And there's people to go down
there to be another person done this, I don't know. I can't say
for sure. I didn't see what done this, but I caught my attention
and got a little curious, and come around this band or brusure, these
small trees, these saplings were, and I stopped and scanning ahead, and
the river made an sque shaped and I'm looking downstream and on the left embankment
course of this path where and my wife and I would walk up and down
this path, seemed two black figures, a larger one than a smaller one
stooped over at the river like scooping up water with its hand. And I
knew what it was. And in this tree, in the small trees,
these saplings didn't make a move, didn't make a sound, And this thing
as soon as an adult looked right at me. They stood up and they
walked over the embankment and they were gone into this shrubbery. I walked up
and around and no trace of them. Will smell, no nothing, no
sound. I think they crawl down into this shrubbery to be honest, to
hide. We have found hair samples along this paths. A bib wire fence
there. They found these long black hairs on this fence line a couple different
times. Another bob wire fence is only one strand about western knee high.
Found black hairs on head as well, and just kind of make sure,
I wonder what this is. The cattle are no longer there, they haven't
been there for two years now. Well, I know it's not cattle hair
that we found that we're finding, not dog hare. Some of these strands
are up to ten to sixteen inches in length, and try to smell them,
and there's no odor enough, and so they've been out there for a
while. By the time that we find them, get really nervous. And
we've parked down at these many two ponds several times overnight. And there's where
this sounds really began, mostly at nighttime. Occasional whoop really allowed to long
drawn out. I've heard a scream down there one time. By the time
that me and my stepdad saw my second one one night, we'd heard a
loud scream coming from down there, deep drawn out, almost sounded like a
train horn type of sound. And I've heard these where people record these and
they put them on YouTube, and the same exact sound that other people are
hearing from all across the country and other places in the world. And it
just spankes you nervous knowing that these things are down there will last fall.
There's any other area about a mile a mile and a half away right The
pads are paved so people could ride their bikes easier and parallels the river,
tree line on both sides and parking. Now you get out and decide which
path you want to take, the one that goes north or the one that
goes east, and the east one is what perils parallels the river, and
you know, I'm not expecting anything. And a lot of people down here,
especially in the summer, a lot of dogs with people, and people
bringing out their families and kind of get to feel comfortable. And there's a
separate path that makes a loop off the one that goes east and west takes
probably about one hundred yards to go around it, and there's some trees and
some shrubbery in the middle there, and you could walk over to where the
river is and walk back up and around and rejoined the main path. And
I got out. I was walking one day and there was a few lambs
that were twisted snapped off, and I wish I hadn't seen that. You
know, it says that they've been here when I don't know. And it
seems like every spring we see new breaks, new something with trees. I
sent you some photos one where the tree was bent over that was not there
last fall. That happened sometime during the winter. Some of the breaks are
new, and some of these trees stacks. And there was one we've seen
this drinking tree, probably about thirty three feet in length, shoved leaning back,
shoved back into this other tree, and you could the branches are broken
up, but you could still see some of the roots on the end of
the tree that's up into this other tree. And what could territory apart like
that? I can only think of one thing, to be honest, And
you know what I'm thinking that sasquatch. Well, the other day we came
back down here. It's release. Two bike pads are and I just husband
go out and this is the last fall the timber. I think I'm gonna
go walk down. This path goes up and around and I just got this
don't enter danger ahead feeling and I just froze and I turned right around,
go back to our veef. We had a band at this time, and
parking area you could park probably about a dozen cars up here. We're parked
there right now. We just love area of the wildlife and the nature part
of it. And to get back in the driver's seat. And my wife's
on her phone or something. She was doing something, and I'm sitting there
talking to her, and my heads turned to the right, and out of
my peripheral vision down over this incline, I see something moving around down in
these shrubs and long behold. We think it was a sasquatch. It stood
up, solid black covered and long hair. Barely to make out the face
it was. I'm trying to think how far it was two hundred treat maybe
and you can just tell arms along, yeah, probably about how the football
filled the way my wife said about fifty yards, maybe more than that.
Anyways, this thing stood up and started to walk along on the other side
of this path, was in a circle, back around, and it was
behind these trees and it comes back out in the opening and finding a couple
more trees back out this opening. It's getting closer and possibly crosses the path.
And I was able to make out that the arms were longer than the
knees and the way it walked it when it would make a step, it
was walked with this way, like my wife said, as each step the
foot would come up, as if a person was jogging, as the foot
would come up. But this thing was walking, and I had a good
pace. It wasn't slow, wasn't fast, steady, good pace. And
we're watching as it's making its way over to these other trees. And my
wife wants to get out with the binoculars you get a better look at this
thing. And she can't believe what she seemed. I said, that's a
bigfoot, that's a sasquatch. And she barely closes her door very lightly,
very slightly, and that thing turned. It must have heard the door,
and it picked up its pace went into this tree line. By the time
she got out, it was gone, went down into this tree line along.
It was a big relief that it was gone. Just don't know where
it went. Yeah, my wife wasn't happy that she didn't get a better
look at this thing. And I decided, I said, you stay here.
I want to walk down there and walk down there in the other direction
east, join up with this pass where the thing came out of this shrubbery.
But I don't have to take a picture of it and stand it to
where this thing came out of I'm on the phone with her. She said,
stand between these trees, and I you know, I said, yeah,
I've done this before. Stand over here where this thing. Walk past
these trees. She said, yeah, stand there. And from what she
could tell me, I was small. I was very very small in my
head even when come up towards armpits were where shoulders were and I'm six foot
tall. Yeah, And she was just amazing with in the thickness of this
thing. Just incredible. I've met Shaquille O'Neal, I've met Paul White,
prol wrestler goes by the name of the Big Show, and these things dwarf
those two and they both are almost at seven foot tall each and as big
as Paul White is. He is dwarfed by these things in thickness and in
body size. And it looked closer than what it was, but it was
really that far away. Because each time we park and we look down there
and somebody takes that path, you could just tell the difference between the size
of a person. There's a lot of people to get a lot of perspectives
from different sides of the people this thing, and this thing was just massive.
Anything sticks out, massive, long, black care the whole body covered
and you could see the conical shaped head, And just each time I see
one of these things, it just takes you back to that very first one.
But I've also done more research up here, and I've heard other stories.
There is a story as well that was also worn. I would have
worn. A guy encountered one in this nearby canyon. He saw one up
on the ridge. It was black. The local described them as solid black
talking to people. Yeah, it was black. It was black, except
for the one I saw down there that had brown legs to it. So
I don't know if they if that was a different type that moved into the
area, or if that's how they start out or they're just burn that way.
Like people, there's different colors of people. There's people some are bolts
and have hair, some are tall and skinny, some are short and heavy,
some are stocky, some are bodybuilders, different types of people. And
researching that I can. I think there are different types of Sasquatch out there
and colors. Hear the stories of them up in Portlock, Alaska, hear
them in Devil's Canyon, hear them out and the Sierra Nevada is in Arizona
and Florida and Missouri, and they all look different for the most part,
but they have a lot of similarity. It's like people have similarities. And
I personally, I'd love listening to a lot of people talking about this and
get other people's perspective. And I hope that, you know, we could
help each other out, you know, trying to say what they are.
I think there is a government cover up. You hear stories where people playing
a dead one or they shoot one and all of a sudden there's government agents
coming in. So you know, all it was was a bear. And
I give you a stern warning if you do it again, you're going to
go to prison, or if you talk about it, you're going to go
to prison. Here, stories of even law enforcement and military. I have
a friend up here who's a retired cop, and he said that his friend
had saw one down by this local bridge. Off the record, he said.
There's another guy. He owns him and his family I've known for years,
owned the local law rock store, gym store. And he said,
back in the Seanities, he saw one about ten miles out of town at
this other bridge crossing this field. It was solid black. And ask game
ONNS. You know, they say off the record or they kind of just
snicker at it, but you see them out of the uniform, they're glad
to talk about it, but don't record them. A lot of those stories
too. Yeah, there's a deputy I've gotten to know a little bit.
She said, Yeah, there's something to wear going on down there. And
I asked her, I said, off the record, just as a person
out as a deputy, I said, I think it could be a sasquatch.
She kind of just nodded her edge, yes, but she didn't say
nothing. I said, because I've seen them down there, and she said,
I believe it. And there's been reportspeck in the Sanities of force mutilations
out here, cattle mutilations. Haven't heard nothing like that stands. Yeah,
We've been to Skinwalker Range and talked to some of the security guy's out there
and got their take on these things, and it just it's insane. It's
just really insane. Oh but that's where I was going to go with this.
I personally, this is just me and I don't mean to irritate or
agitate anybody. I just don't believe in the Apes series. I think they
are half human somehow. I believe DNA has been found and tested from all
over the world over the last thirty years, that there is a trace of
human female human DNA, and these things the other half. Nobody knows what
it is until we could actually get a body found dead or I don't want
to say shot, but it could happen. There could be somebody out there
that shoot one and bring it to the table and have examiners look at it,
zoologists and primologists and Emmys, and yeah, there's no DNA out there
that on the science books that can match this half DNA that these things are.
I just don't believe that they're a primate like an ape, like a
gorilla. I think they're more human like. I think they're more intelligent,
smarter, and more advanced. They're methodical, they think before they act.
I just don't buy the ape theory myself. I appreciate those who do.
I still listen to those people. Do they have other perspectives, like doctor
Meldrum, you know the Prince, how he's able to tell the Prince apart
from human or primate, they're different. The hair is how they're different than
other animals, including human just I think it's insane and I just want to
learn from others and I wanted to share my experiences that these things do exist.
I appreciate you for sharing all that. When have you seen the sasquatch
in the pond? Was it fully summer merged in the water before it rose
up? I think it was because I heard them splashing, and when I
turned around and saw it, I think it wasn't one time, but it
was already about shoulders up out of the water a by them that I first
saw it when it was proceeding to stand up, and you could see the
water just ripping off of it, coming off of it, including its head.
Yeah, so they have the ability to swim in the water. I
believe they do. I've heard of a few stories where they can't submerge and
go underwater, and I think that might be a way for them to get
rid of their body odor. Maybe I don't know, but yeah, I
believe they could go under water. And how big was the conical shaped head,
like above the eyebrows to the very top well, and you can kind
of make out the eye brow ridge and I'd have to say eight maybe ten
inches. The whole head itself was well over a foot from top of the
head to the chin and almost is wide but not white, and maybe longer
than that, maybe fourteen inches. I had nothing to really compare the size
of the face too, but it was just the head. It was just
massive, and there was seemed like the neck was sat down. There was
no neck, but it was able to turn its head. So there's some
kind of muscle format for them to turn their heads, but no neck like
seen on a human or on a guirilla. Yeah, and you said it
was an auburn color. About how long was the hair all it placed it
like off of the arms, and the backside is and the legs is probably
ten inches on the chest it was a lot shorter. The head was a
lot shorter. The face was bare. It didn't have the mustache and beard
like the video of Patty. The face was just by itself. There was
no hair on the face. I was able to make out the mouth,
the flat nose, barely could see the ear right here. I knew it
was a male because you could see that it was a male. It just
it scared the hell out of me. Yeah, I can imagine. And
you mentioned that it would take a few steps, look over at you,
and then take a few more steps and do the same. Think about three
steps, stop, look at me, then at three or four times before
it finally faded off into the thicker free line and I was able to hear
each football. That's how heavy this thing was. I think it might have
been deliberately making itself known like that, Like some animals like deer will stomp
their feet they feel threatened or they want to fight. Ilk will do the
same thing badgers. I think it deliberately wanted me to hear its football,
because there's times where I'm sure they get around people and you don't hear nothing.
They're dead silent in their movements. Yeah, and you your brother and
his friend went back to the area. You guys did a size comparison,
and you estimated creature to be about nine feet tall fight feet wide. Yes,
yeah, that's a pretty big creature right there. You could see the
muscle movement in its back and its legs, and it was swaying its hard
like the one that my wife and I saw last fall down here in my
hometown. You could see the muscle movement in this thing and it was all
natural. There was nothing artificial about it. Like I said, it would
put Shaquille O'Neill and the Big Show to shame. Insight his comparison, the
arms were thicker, bigger. Its arms were bigger than what my legs are
in circumference. It was just and impressive at the same time. It's scary
but impressive, Like what are these things capable of really doing? I've heard
stories where they could catch deer. The video that's out there with this lady
who was turkey hunting in her blind and she saw two of them coming back
with a dear across over its shoulder. Did you guys find tracks whenever you
went back to the area the one in Montana. We have found tracks at
this other location where these ponds are. We see tracks down there all the
time. I got several photos. Try to I have to. I have
to learn to teach myself to start carrying a tape measure with me because I
have to find something to put next to it to get us heights comparison.
Usually my eleven and a half shoe is what I used first heightst comparison.
And I could put my footprints, my foot in these tracks and they're still
massive, even the smallest ones that are fourteen inches are still massive. But
the one that we saw last fall, the ground is too solid. We
didn't see any footprints at all. Yesterday we were walking around down there and
part of the river channel of the river comes along there and starting to dry
out because it's not the main channel. And I'm looking wherever I can in
the MUDs and if I find any footprints, and we didn't see none,
And I figure that'd be the best place to play footprints of being the drying,
drying up portion of the river. Yeah, and you mentioned there was
another person by the pond where you've seen the creature come out of the water,
and he's seen it too, Is that correct? Yeah? The guy
that was pulling up that day and his pickup. I said, did you
see that way he pulled up? He was facing that same direction and he
said, yeah, I see those all the time. That really bothered me.
Oh after we saw the one last fall, my wife and I,
it was about a week later, I decided to go down on this path
and started to where it started. And I'm walking around to my wife and
I said, I'll be back in a few minutes. And I walking around
and it's it just comes up and around like it's about one hundred yards in
total on the length of the path. And I got about half way and
I started getting very nauseated, started to get real dizzy, and I've I
mean, it could have been a medical thing because at the time I was
well on potassium. But I think there was one there was close bike because
I could where I saw a face from the tree line to my right looking
back at me. As soon as I saw it, that's when this incident
happened. And my wife got the feeling that she needed to come out and
find me, and she came up and around and she saw me and I
embracing myself up from falling over, hands on my legs on my knees,
and I told her what had happened, and she was able to catch me
from falling completely over, and I was able to gather my wits and be
able to stand back up. The dizzy face faded over a couple of minutes,
and the nauseating feelings kind of resided there for a few minutes, and
we're able to get back to our vehicle. I think maybe one of these
things, one of these beings, I had something to do with that,
and hearing the stories where they could make people lose time and forget where you're
at and make you dizzy and blink out something about them. I don't know
what it is. Yeah, you could have been hit by infra sound,
Yeah, exactly, an ultrasound that I just couldn't hear. And there's no
electrical power lines nearby. There's nothing man made down there except for the path
itself. Yeah. And that then that you found that hole in the ground.
Do you think that was created by the Sasquatch, Yes, very much
so. It's just it's put together very well and it just took some thought
behind it, and the pure size of it. Like I said, I
have to get some fresh photos of it and stand them to you and take
a tape measure with me, and you could share that anyway want to.
And I'll even one of us will stand next to the entrance, probably makes
it. I'm six foot tall and kind of get an idea how big this
thing is. It just and it just you know, you hear about them
building shelters where they go in the winter. I think they stay here.
I don't think these ones migrate as this friend that we used to have long
story there two winters ago, he showed us a photo that he took of
instead of footprints that went on, oh my goodness, ninety yards or more
in the snow. And you could tell that these are sasquatch footprints because you
can make out the toes. They were in a straight line, they weren't
staggered like human footprints, and they had some distance in between them. They
could tell there's a distance between them. And recognizing the surroundings there, the
trees and that to surrounded you could tell that there was some size and distance
to those footprints in the snow. And like I said, we've found footprints
in the mud, usually in the spring when things are thawing out on the
ground still soft in areas or after a good rainstorm. So I personally think
these ones stay here. They're just scattered. I'm not too far from there.
There's some hills with some caves. I just don't bear to venture up
there because rattlesnakes and not mines. But well, we've got advantage. But
where we could sit there and watch these caves in this hillside and each of
us have seen black figures standing up there, and we kind of move along
with the binoculars and come back in the black figure to be gone or be
bent over trying to hide behind a sage brush, and just get that gut
feeling that they're watching you. At the same time, even from a distance
like that, you could barely see them through a set of binoculars. You
hear people with binoculars and telescopes and cameras and rifle scopes. They'll see one
from a distance and can't barely see it with the naked eye of them through
the scope or the camera whatever, they're looking right back at them. That's
the sense that I got with that. I said, yeah, they're watching
us too. They know we're here, but not close enough to make you
a nauseated or nervous as there are some days, or just like that though.
Yeah, And the creature that you saw swaying back and forth behind a
tree, it was solid black with a conical shaped head. Why do you
think it was swaying back and forth? Wouldn't it make more sense to hide
and be still that way it's not seen. I don't know. It's like
it was checking us out. I was looking right at us, just slowly
swaying back and forth. I don't know why, maybe getting a different viewpoint
of us. I don't know why it was swaying. It was just I
think it was just curious, just watching us, all right. It could
have set still if wanted to. I'm sure there's times where one of us
or both of us be walking along some of these areas, and how many
are watching us don't know? I mean, they could be sitting still.
I've seen where people have gotten photos of them where they're starting to put but
ah, leaves and branches and moss on their heads, kind of maybe the
camouflage themselves. I think they do a pretty well job if there, if
they already blend in with their surroundings state, you know, they are the
world hide and seek champions after all, I don't know why it was swaying.
I really don't know. I've I've thought about it, and I've heard
other stories where they, you know, others encounter where they're swaying as well
the ones that they see. Yeah, it could have been letting you know
that it was there. It could be like this nervous trait that be have
to them, could have been a juvenile or just had you know. It's
really a lot of experience with people. There's been times where at these three
ponds where we've parked down there at night, especially when we're had our van,
we eventually fall asleep. I mean, it's hard to stay away,
and we'd have the sight windows open and there'd be a couple of times you
could hear something walking around down there. Person. I don't know. People
come and go in their vehicles all the time down there. Some people just
go down there to hang out, others go to barbecue, some do night
fishing. But whatever it was walking around, there was no vehicle that approached
us, that came down there. Nothing that laughed and just carried off in
the distance. Built there's enough light coming off the moon, some building lights
down there because there's some businesses off in the distance, like there's some storage
units down there and some trucking thing and there's an auto repair that you used
to be down there. So you got some lights up in the distance,
and whatever it was was staying on the dark side of the parking lot.
It wasn't coming into the light and just kind of just walking around and it
didn't get too close, but close enough I could hear it. Yeah,
And why do you think you've had so many encounters around ponds. I think
that's just where they live, that's where they habitat. There's that's just part
of their area that they want to be in. It's part of nature hunting
as well. Water source for a lot of different reasons. They just like
being around water. I mean, if you go camping out in the wilderness,
you're going to want to find a water source and be close to it.
Unless people. Wow some of these areas, there's quite a few people,
but these things are still brazen to come out even during the day and
possibly possibly to be seen. Why we saw this one last fall, especially
when I saw in Montana. The first one I saw was early morning sprinkling
out, just got done sprinkling nobody else down there. It probably felt alone
and comfortable, and I surprised it when it came up out of the water,
the one that we saw last fall, even that looked our direction up
in the parking lunch. Yeah, there was a guy that already walked by.
I forgot about that apologized guy already walked by on that path, and
this thing knew that there was somebody out there, but not to move.
As soon as that guy made his way down the path, this thing came
out and started walking parallel to this path, the sidepath that came around in
a circle. But as soon as my wife closed her door the van door,
very quietly, I could barely hear, this thing looked right in our
direction and it picked up its pace. It didn't stop moving, he just
kept going. Yeah, that is interesting. And you mentioned that whenever you
go through certain areas, you have a feeling and you feel nervous, like
your sixth sense kicks in. I think that's very true. I've gotten the
feeling whenever the sasquatch are around here, and I'd hear activity experience things,
and sometimes have encounters like the hairs on the back of your neck will stand
up and you know something's there, but you can't figure it out. Yeah,
your spidey sea sense is go tingling on you really quick, and just
get that nervous feeling and like stop, don't go any further, or use
caution when you do, go and start listening. There's been days where you
could hear the bugs out there, the birds out there, and if that
feeling usually was right along with a dead silence. No bugs, no birds,
no nothing, and just dead silence, not even the buzzing of your
ears, just like, yeah, turn around and go back the other way.
It's like they're doing something and they don't want you around. Yeah.
Absolutely, And the cattle, the horses, dogs, they'll pick up on
that real quick. And we have those same types of abilities. Yeah.
You know, like I said, there's a lot of people down here that
walk their dogs in both areas and I don't want to stay, but I'm
just waiting for a dog to how do they ever put them on their releases
and dogs get ahead of them. I'm waiting for a dog to start helping
and come running back at them. And you know, something scares of dog
or not come back at all, but you know they come running back at
their owner. You know, I'm gonna get out and go up there and
say, hey, you know your dog is sensing something dangerous up there,
you might not want to go. Yeah, very true. Do you believe
the Sasquatch are following you around? And perhaps there is some type of supernatural
currents taking place? I think there are, especially with the orbs that's around
them. We've seen three white orbs over by these three pawns on the other
self are these ponds, and they're always three in a row. They're not
flashlights, so there's just not one side of light. These are glowing orbs
white. They look like they're pretty good sized, and from left to right
from the tree line out into another tree line, and I think that has
a connection with them. I've been, like I said, I've been talking
with or chatting with Ron Moorehead about this, and I think there is a
supernatural aspect that my wife thinks as well, some kind of connection that they're
interacting with the Sasquatch and visa versa. Like I said, I don't believe
in the eighth thirty. I don't want to offend anybody, but this is
just my personal beliefs. I believe they are the Nephilim, and that's how
they're able to escape the global flood. That they opened up portals like people
talk about people have seen. I know somebody called a video or a photo
of a sasquatch coming out of a portal on Skinwalker Ranch. They're in Utah.
Footprints just stop mid like there's no other footprints and a big opening,
especially in a sandy or soft dirt area. They could see the footprints and
stop. This group. I forget their names, I haven't followed them in
a while on YouTube there in Florida. They would see one or two footprints
come out of nowhere, nothing before, nothing after. I personally believe,
my wife personally believes that they could open up portals or these orbs do for
them to disappear altogether. The cloaking thing, I think not so much.
Maybe they can't. I don't know. I've never seen one that gets cloaked.
I've never seen a cloaked one before. Possibly, or maybe it's one
of these orbs taking another form to make it look like it's a cloak Sasquatch.
I don't know. I don't have the answers to that. I've not
witnessed anything like that. Video or anything like that. Maybe you have and
you don't realize it, like when you're being paralleled in the woods. Maybe
they're cloaked, Maybe they are. I mean there's always that possibility. I
mean it's open to any possibility. Yeah. Absolutely. Now this is kind
of an off the wall question, and I just want you to be honest.
Have you ever seen a shadow person or like a gray alien UFO,
anything like that in your life? Individually and together. My wife and I
both have seen what would be described as a shadow person we believe, or
fallen angels rather known as the demons. We've had paranormal experiences in our lives
growing up and together. Several years ago after we first minute the first place
we got together. We've seen a winged creature just right along the ceiling of
our apartment, just go and right to left and really fast. I've seen
and it was solid black, like a shadow. And I've seen a shadow
figure standing at the front of my bed. I've seen one standing in the
closet. I've seen them in the kitchen and place I used to live that
many years ago to f I met my wife. I've seen them on the
street corners, leaning and I believe in possessions. I believe the Bible Wood
talks about these fallen angels and they're menacing and they mean nothing good to people,
and they seek to kill, steal, and destroy everything they can about
humanity. And I believe that's what these orbs are. That's just my personal
beliefs that these are demons just in their true form, and they can manifest
into human like figures. I'm being small, so being very large and me
believing re believing that the sasquarts are the net one. We believe that's the
other half of the DNA that's missing. But nothing ka public is how can
on a shadow figure, how can you take extract DNA from that? You
can't? Oh yeah, yeah, I'll give you my DNA. You know
they're not going to oblige, and I think it'd be impossible physically to do
such. But that's just me trying to rationalize and fill in the holes of
the Swiss cheese. Yeah, it's hard to say if it's all connected.
I just asked because I've had a lot of bigfoot encounters like yourself, but
I've also had these strange, supernatural or whatever you want to call it,
demonic encounters with aliens, shadow people, and other strange things. But it's
too difficult to say if there's a correlation between them and the Sasquatch. But
they do say that the giants in the ancient days had supernatural abilities. Yeah,
and it does describe the Nephilim when they when these fallen angels done whatever
they've done with human women. We can't figure that out because they're supernatural beings.
That the offspring grew up to be large giants covered in hair, So
we don't know. We don't will None of us were there, so we
don't know. We can only speculate, and we gotta be real careful about
the whole speculating thing. Is just they could have possessed man using their seed
to do that with the women to create these offspring. I also like one
more heads theory on it that they are something supernatural or paranormal that manipulated the
DNA, just not in humans but with other animals. Well, and that's
always a possibility. Yeah, if it happened back then, and that means
it's happening now. And he even talks about that in the Bible, that
oh, yeah, after the days of Noah, these things will start to
come back, and I mean that's kind of what we're seeing. How can
we really deny that, especially with the government opening up and saying that there
are these UAPs and strange things going on, and a lot of prophecies are
being fulfilled, like with the Euphrates River drying up. Just a lot of
stuff going on that you can't deny. That the Third Temple in Jerusalem is
about to be built, the red halfers that haven't been around for two thousand
years or there now, that were found in Missouri that some rancher sent over
there, and and just a lot of stuff that'sprut on. These taskuatcher becoming
more and more team and prevalent, closer and closer to communities. Uh.
You know, there's where you know, people see them coming up to their
houses and looking through windows, following them in their cars, running alongside of
them. Stories of dog man slash were wolves. There's a lot of stuff
going on out there that you know, how much of the ocean bottom have
we discovered? I believe with video and photograph evidence, I believe the Megalodon
is still on earth. Stories of those reappearing, just a lot of crazy
stuff going on right now. Yeah, I agree, and I think they
would never tell us anything, but they can't control what's happening, and I
think it's out of their control. So they're slowly letting out some information because
they know it's only a matter of time until we know the truth, or
at least the truth exposes itself to us exactly. And that's I think that's
where they step in. Every time somebody claims that they know they have on
a body or a body part of a Sasquatch, or they've shot one accidentally
or otherwise, and you know, government steps in and they take the body
and say, you know all you saw was a bear, or after mount
saying the hell is the story I heard? Where those bodies washed up in
the landslide and some people found them and they told their local sure for whoever
he was, and he made a call and seeing, you know, the
armies coming in and they're collecting these bodies and sending them out on helicopters.
You know, if I personally found one, I wouldn't be calling one offse
wight. I'll be calling up some friends saying, hey, let's peck this
thing up and let's get it somewhere where the government can't find it and be
very quiet and who we tell and get a group of people out here to
examine it, you know, quietly and privately. Yeah, very true.
I think eventually they would find out what's going on and try to take control
of the situation. And it's a frightening thing because governments want to control people,
and that's exactly what they're doing by suppressing the information. They want to
control us, but they know they don't have control and they don't like that.
And you notice that United States, Canada, Australia, Great Britain,
Germany, Russia, wherever these things are found, those governments are trying to
take control of the situation. I wonder why. Yeah, yeah, I'm
worried about what's to come here in the near future, and I don't think
it's any good. But no, it's it's abound to happen anyways. So
oh yeah, we'll see what transpires after these next events. The eclipse is
supposed to happen here in a couple of days, and I think that will
transpire into some strange activity in the world and cataclysmic things that will take place.
Could never know, We'll see what happens. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,
let's see what else do we want to talk about. Have you had
any other encounters you can think of any activity you want to talk about.
One of the night that we were parked down there at the end of the
dirt road where these catalogs rushed past us. Uh, there's there wasn't the
same night. It was another night that sitting right next to one of the
ponds there, and you could hear these about one o'clock one thirty in the
morning. Could hear these big rocks that are being thrown in the water,
big splashes, and several of them, about seven or eight of them just
could dunk coul dunk. So it wasn't a beaver. I've heard beaver's down
there. It was you could tell us big rocks that were being thrown in
the water, and I thought maybe that could have been related. Hear stories
about them throwing rocks and water. Thankfully, we've not had any rocks or
anything thrown at us. I don't think I could handle something like that walk
or logvan thrown at us. I haven't heard of any stories of like that
happening up here. You hear stories of people going camping in the area.
There's because there's mountains kind of to the south and to the west of US,
and every now and then you hear people that go out camping and something
to were walking on their camps at night and pressing in on their tent and
giving them a bad taste in their mouth that they want to get out of
their first thing in the morning. The mountain ranges to the south of US.
We went up there's some cabins up there that church groups and groups could
rant, and we went up there with a church group a couple of summer
ago. It was in August, and you could see the ex formations up
there, just trees, wood lands are broken off where they're just stacked almost
like in tepee positions, or snapped off lands on some of the other trees.
So I think you know they're in that location as well. I could
say I've always seen two exclamations down here by the ponds. What do you
think the X formations are in these X structures. I think they're other communicating
with each other saying, hey, this is our area, you stay on
your side, will stand on our side of boundary type of thing, or
maybe they think they're communicating with people like stay away. This is again this
is our area. You stay there, we stay over here. I think
it's just some type of communication, that's all. It's my personal beliefs.
Yeah, that makes sense to me. I kind of feel like their boundary
markers and they're claiming their territory and warning people to stay out. Possibly.
Yeah, I don't think they like humans for the most part. I think
they're curious about us, but I don't think they like us for the most
part, and they just want us to stay away from them. Yeah,
I think so. A lot of these X structures are found around roads,
parking lots, food plots, down in river bottoms, high up on hills
where their world meets ours exactly and just happens to being Nature's just no different
than deer or any other animals. Said, there's a lot of deer out
here. Oh, in the area that we're in now, where these two
paths meet these bike paths. There's been a couple of times with you down
here, and just as it starts getting dusk, there's three four there's four
deer, white tails no running from down where these trees are. They'll come
up inside of this hill and they'll go around the parking lot and they'll jump
this fence that's here, and they'll come back over where these uh, there's
some businesses back in here as well, and they'll come back here and they'll
stay in the well led areas. They don't stay down there in the dark
areas at nighttime. I thought that was kind of odd too. It's dear
like to height at night. They don't like to be seen. But these
these ones, they'll come up and they'll go closer to the lights and they
get away from where it's dark at down down below here. Yeah, that
makes sense, and with the X structure, it could be like where like
I said, our world meets theirs, but where our paths cross at like
a crossing or something or marks the spot exactly. My wife said, Yeah,
there's possibly a connection between them and humans because it just something draws them
to us. And it could be because possibly, I think for sure that
they are part human in some way the DNA, and they have a connection
to us, so something draws them to us. To begin with a story
after story of video the video scene. I'm sure you've seen your fair share
of them. I remember this one I was watching or this dad and his
family are out on this path walking and he noticed that there was a sasquatch
watching his family. He had to stop and go peer or something, and
he looked up the hillside and saw one looking down at his family. So
he got his family together and they left. They got out of the area.
People standing cabins where they bang on cabins, a troll rocks of cabins,
or you're loggers or people out there that have to work with power lines,
they'll see one standing in the tree line watching them. They're drawn to
us, And I think that's something that we have as people need to figure
out. If we're going to go down this rabbit hole, let's go down
further and try to figure out why they're drawn to humans and why are humans
gone to them once you encounter one. Yeah, that's a very good question.
And you say you've spoken with Jeff melderm before. What did he have
to say about your encounters? I met him two years ago. We have
an outdoor event coming up in this other community next month. I think the
community of the town is called land Or. He's going to be there,
I think the fourteenth and fifteenth. Noting like that it's an outdoor expo,
and I was really like him see him. His display was off and he
had a foot cast, he had a fist cast. He had Patty up
on the wall, how big she was, and I I just like talk
talk to him, and I ended up talking to him. Uh, there's
other people that talk to him as well. By the way, till they
get done, I continue my story. And he believes that there's something here
in this area. I'll just mention it's the wind River area. That's all
I'm saying. It's a huge mountainous area that's a pinpoint as I could get.
He believes that there's something here. I got some hair samples, I
gotta say to him anyways, So I got him bagged up. So you
did keep the black hairs that you found on the fence. We lost the
first set. I don't know how we lost the first several hairs that we
found, but we did find more and we kept those. So and yeah,
we're gonna be going back down there. So if there's anything fresh from
the spring that might have got snagged up on, I think the barb wire
fencers are only to keep the cattle and sert areas that were down there with
the cattle, aren't there no more but defences remain. I sent you a
picture of one of the gates where the lash goes up and down and it
was banked completely back in both directions. Yeah, that is interesting. I
have no idea. I tried grabbing that. I can't bend it back now
they're steel. I mean, I mean unless I me took the time out
and took clamps and tools and mallets and you know, done it themselves.
I don't know. I don't know if you can't even do it with the
right to the tools. But it just again just adds to my idea that
it was done by a sasquatch. Yeah. I need to get in touch
with Jeff Meldrum. I have something interesting that I would like to be that
I would like to get tested, and I think he would be the guy
to do it. That's good. What do you have if I may ask
some possible blood? Okay, no, that's cool. Wait, yeah,
definitely get them, get a hold of them. And yeah, and there's
a whole backstory behind it too, it's not just random. Yeah. I've
talked to Doug Hijack. I interviewed him and he said, if anyone has
any evidence, send it in and whenever I told him what I had.
He kind of quit talking to me, so I was like, okay,
yeah, just whatever you do, don't give it to your local university,
that's for sure, or your local zoo, they'll keep it. Yeah.
Absolutely, I'd like to find somebody who's serious about collecting evidence. You know,
you hear a lot of people on TV say, if you got something,
send it in so we can analyze it. But I think a lot
of people just want to look like the big man on the block and yeah,
not lock to Walk. Yeah, I would avoid that people are that
are on the TV shows, just because I'm not saying they're all bad.
There's just some of them I personally wouldn't trust. I mean, but yeah,
I get hold of Jeff Meldum, and if he can't do I'm sure
he knows somebody the kin that we trustworthy. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
He possibly has a lot of connections. I remember watching a video on
Monster Quest years ago where he was out of cabin in Canada and they set
or they had like this board with a bunch of nails and they think one
stepped on those scrolls. Yeah, I remember that that guy came back to
his cabin in the spring and he thought it was a bear that was breaking
into his cabin, and he laid out a board of nails and following he
had their blood all over at dry blood. Yeah, yeah, so I
definitely think Jeff would be the guy to contact because he would at least know
somebody who could run this blood sample and analyze it. They're not going to
keep it for themselves and hide the results from you. They're going to tell
you it's either this or that, or maybe it's nothing that's on the chart
yet, and at least get some answers to it, hopefully. Yeah.
And I have different samples too, hiding in different areas, so if somebody
takes one, I still have more. No, that's good. That's a
good idea. Yeah, yeah, it's just that's why we are when we
find these share samples. We don't. We might, you know, share
with somebody that we could trust it we have it, but we're not going
to tell them where it's at or we're keeping it, you know, we
don't want it to disappear. Yeah. That tends to happen a lot where
they'll tell you it's nothing and they won't send it back to you, and
or it'll just disappear whenever you send it in and they have no answer exactly
exactly again part of that cover up. Yeah, absolutely, and they do
a good job about it. I do. Got to give them that very
professional at hiding the truth. That's why I like Steve Ashdell so much,
because he says the way he is. He's a no bs guy and he
hates the bullies. He doesn't like the bullies, and he talks about how
the governments are treating the people that encounter these beings, you know, and
he, you know, once gets the stories out there, he doesn't want
the fame for it. He doesn't want no fortune. He's not out there
to make a quick buck. And he doesn't change a person's stories. Because
when he read my stories, I always share two of them with them.
He ain't change none of the stories, so he kept it exactly the way
it was. Yeah, I heard the BFRO changes a lot of stories.
I don't know if that's true, but I've heard that where they do.
I've heard where Moneymaker change his stories. They make fun of people, or
they get people to make up stories that you know that they want a narrative
to fit for some reason. Yeah, I've talked to people who have sent
me their encounters and they say the encounter that was put up on the BFRO
website was changed, altered, or just summarized. Yeah, I just yeah,
I don't like those guys, to be honest. Yeah, there's something
fishy about it. Yeah, there's there's others. I forget her name,
there's another one. It's not I don't think they're on Discovery. They're on
I think different channel. A group of four of them. They go out
and she usually I know, she's a scientist. One of the guys,
he's former military. They get some really good infrared footage of sasquatch walking around,
or they'll take this device out there that's meant for game calls and they'll
play the sasquatch calls and they usually get replies and they're deep down in the
forest somewhere where there's no other people. And I kind of want to do
that. I've seen those devices that are just really expensive one hundred and eighty
bucks on up here at our local outdoor shop. But get once you get
it. Yeah, you could do stuff like that, but just gotta be
real careful, I guess, And what should play out there and see what
kind of see what kind of response you might get, But I don't know.
I'm kind of on the fence about that one. Yeah, go ahead,
No. I was just going to say, it's pretty interesting that they
mentioned the nephilom were global, like they were worldwide, and the activity you
see from the North America and bigfoot sasquatch is the exact same that you'll see
in Asia, that you'll see in Australia, and that's not typical of animals,
Like if you see a deer here in North America, it's going to
be different than one that you see in Africa per se. Oh yeah,
or even in British Columbia unless the land was connected at one point something,
yeah, something, That's what I was going to say. I remember watching
the to show up there on port Lock and they had Ron Moorhey come in
and he played the audio sounds and they started to get reply and there's a
point to come up they said, well, what did you places? I
don't know, and that atle kind of response you're going to get because we
don't know what they're really saying played. There might have been some whoops or
something. I don't remember what it was. It wasn't the Sierra Sounds,
but he played something else out there and they started to get responses, and
so we got all these different recordings. And the friend that we used to
up here, he said, him in the center, sitting up on this
ridge overlooking the river one night, and it's kind of about eighty feet above
the river. But they could hear three somethings walking across the river, coming
through the river. And there's a lot of shallow points out there. It's
not all deep. There's some points where you and I could cross with ease,
really shallow points way deeper even less. But they heard three somethings walking
through, and he said they start talking, but he didn't understand what they
were saying, really deep voices and almost like a chatter. And I'm sitting
there and I said, whoa. He says, sounded almost like a different
language. So I got on my phone. I played some loops and I
played something else. He said, no, no, I played the Sierra
sounds and he said, that's exactly what him and his son had heard,
same kind of talking. And I told that thrown and he was surprised at
those sounds are coming from a different set of sash squashed from a different time
point in a different location. It's like these footprints are being found there.
They're almost identical, regardless of what time period they came from, where they
were cast from all different points of the globe, and they're all coming back
to be very similar. And then the patterns of the feet and the hair
samples are coming back similar. So, yeah, there's something. It's more
to these beings than what I think we as humans of even discover. There's
so much to discover on these things that I think we're just barely touching the
tip of the iceberg on them. Yeah, it's certainly a large rabbit hole
that never ends, and I do believe there's a lot more to it,
and we're only scratching the surface. Whenever you and your wife seeing something about
two hundred feet away with long arms swaying back and forth, whenever she looked
through the binoculars, did she get a good look at it? She didn't
get a chance. She was stepping out with the binoculars to look at without
having to look through the front window, because the front window was a little
dirty at the time, it was a little dusty and whatnot, and she
was just stepping out with the baniocolar. She was going to raise the beniccalar
zip. But when she went, I wish you would have closed your door.
Listen, learning, don't close your door. If you're going to open
your door to look at something like this, don't close your door. Less
of the bear than close your door. But at a distance like that,
she but she still wants to or shut the door, and I think quiet
and it hurt her from that distance away, and it just picked up its
pace left and it went into this tree line. We couldn't see it after
that. It was gone. Yeah, when you guys did a size comparison,
it was a lot bigger than yourself. Huh oh, yeah, way
bigger. She said, oh, you're you're really small out there. And
she was scramming the best way she could, and you know, I was
on the phone with her, and yeah, it went up to these branches.
It went up over here, and that's how tall it was. And
it was itself was almost maybe nine feet tall as well as well over seven
foot tall. I don't think it was as ten and somewhere between eight and
nine feet. I think it was nine feet. My wife thinks it was
bigger than that. I mean, it could have been Hey, excuse me,
Harry, can I measure how tall you are? Just stand there for
a minute. Yeah, no doubt. And whenever you say it was a
black color, was it jet black like a coal black? It was a
jet black. It was a shiny black. Yeah. That sounds like them
for sure. And that's you hear a lot of stories in the area,
and that's what you get is at shiny black. From my friend that saw
one back in the Sanities, to this retired cops friend that saw wine,
this guy that saw something hunch down over at the river, the one that
made my stepdad saw they're all jet black down here for some reason. Yeah,
it wasn't a person wearing a coat or anything, and it wasn't human
skin. And except for the one I saw that paralleled me, I was
looking through the the small trees, it was brown. And I don't understand
why a brown one would be here with all these others unless it's a different
type that moved in, or maybe it's it was a juvenile. It wasn't
huge to some of these black ones. And I don't know. That's kind
of throw the wrench into the whole system there. Why would there be a
brown one and it wasn't arrius two legged, it was bipedal, and I
don't know. Yeah, typically with the klan of Sasquatch, you'll get several
black ones, several brown ones, and there'll be some gray and whitish ones,
but you'll also have some that are like black with white in them and
just different variations. Yeah, and you know I've seen the videos of the
juveniles. Is that one where those people come across that possible juvenile that's up
in the tree and I thought that was a pretty cool video. Or the
one that's come running down the mountain there in California, I think it's fourth
of July several several years ago, and they found out that it was a
juvenile, but it was running so fast that they had that guy come in.
They could run really fast and he even couldn't match the pace to it.
So yeah, we know they have young video or that the mother's picking
up its infant from behind that boulder that's walking from right to left. Other
videos of juveniles, these people are sticking their head and what they thought was
a dan and they see a juvenile in there, and you barely catch a
glimpse of it on the video, and you can hear this guy say,
let's get out here, let's go right now, you know, and you
know, like any other mother, I'm sure they would protect their young.
Heard a story the other day, remember what website I was on, where
this guy was out deer hunting and he saw this juvenile sasquatch taking this deer
and throwing this steer around, putting its foot on its head and let it
go and catch it again and do it all over again, tormenting this deer.
And he was down in this crevice hiding and he said he regretted it,
and I probably would too, that he had shot this sasqutch after doing
this for about fifteen minutes, and then he had heard the mother come barely
out of the tree line and letting out these screens and these yells and trying
to pick her the dead offspring. Yeah, they're going to protect their young
if they can, or protect each other. I think that's where there's they
call them centuries, I believe where they got bookouts and they'll try to distract
you if there's another one off to the site somewhere, so they'll start making
sounds, clicking sounds or whatever and try to distract you to get away from
the rest of the group or whatever. You know. I believe they're very
intelligent when it comes to stuff like that. No, yeah, without a
doubt. And I believe that. Like I said, we're always taking photos
of stuff and seen what's new every spring, and you know, see what
else is keeping our eyes and ears open and our noses open. And that
Dan and the one there in Missouri. That the smell the only two times
I've ever encountered that smell, and it's identical. I've not encountered anywhere else
at any other time. Yeah, well they're certainly here. Oh yeah,
I've only heard the one yell as this It sounded like a train born long
bellowed out howl. And I've heard the whoops a few different times. The
rock clacking only a couple of times. I've never heard any tree knocks.
I've tried tree knocking and you know, maybe get a response. No,
nothing. I've never heard them a day or at night time. So the
ones here are very quiet. They they don't make themselves too well known,
I guess. Yeah, that is interesting. The groops are either one at
a time or the three really quick. The root. I've heard that a
couple of times back and forth between two of them. But outside of that,
they don't they're not too loud, They're not they're not trying to be
I don't think Yeah, I don't think so. And maybe you'll hear some
in the future, and possibly you'll have another major encounter in the future,
And if that is the case, feel free to contact me sometime and I'll
have you back on the show. Definitely. And I got some photos of
this stuff, but I might have to go back with the tape measure and
retake some of the photos and send a couple of them pe and see what
you think like the ones they sent you in Just that that gate, that
fence thing is just that's really got baffled. It is all baffled up here.
So yeah, that metal handle was bent open. Yeah, that's just
freaking insane. Yeah, absolutely all right. Justin well, I appreciate you
and your wife for taking the time to talk with me today and share your
encounters and experiences here on Sasquatch theory. That really means a lot to me.
Yeah, thank you very much. And I like your account of what
you're doing there and getting the stories out there and hopefully we could all help
each other in some ways. So yeah, I hope so. And you
definitely helped me out today. It's good to speak with somebody who's had multiple
encounters like myself, and they all line up with a lot of the things
that I've experienced, a lot of the people that I've spoken with here in
the past. And yeah, I believe you one. I believe you too,
Miguel. So you're very helpful. Well, thank you. I appreciate
hearing that. Well, good rest of your day, good rest of your
week, and you just keep up that good work there. So yeah,
you too, and you guys be safe out there. Okay, oh yeah,
definitely we are all right. Well you later, Okay, Hey,
you can call it anytime you want. So, okay, yeah, I
got your numbers saved, Jeff Meldrums, Yeah I got so. Yeah,
that sounds good, all right, Justin. Well, you guys have a
good day, and hopefully we talk again in the future. Definitely later,
yep, take care by Justin. It was a pleasure to have you on
the show, and I was glad we were able to talk about your bigfoot
encounters and experiences. I wonder what the bigfoot was doing in the pond,
and it seems like the guy you ran into encountered the same thing. Ponds,
creeks, and rivers are excellent places to find tracks, and many people
claim you can find bigfoot around waterways. Most of the places I have encountered
bigfoot were around creeks and rivers, and there always seems to be water nearby.
Some researchers have called them water apes. I don't believe they are an
ape or a lost primate either, but I do believe they have some of
those traits in their genes. A lot of what they do seems to correlate
with primate activity, as far as rock throwing, wood knocking, the way
they move on all fours and can stand up. A lot of them even
look similar to gorillas and chimps. Of course, there is something deeper going
on, and it appears that different animals from planet Earth have been bred with
humans somehow, and it's a strange thing to wrap our minds around. If
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