835: REVENGEANCE

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Grubb, Mike, Shawn, and Niki are here to tell you about their time so far in Tales of Kenzera: ZAU, The Rogue Prince of Persia, and Helldivers 2! After that, they run through the games they're most looking forward to in the rest of 2024!
2024-04-12 89 min Transcript

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Hey, everybody, it's Friday, and I'm not gonna put the music on
the YouTube version. Sorry everybody. I just don't have that ready to go,
But Sean will do with the podcast first. I mean, I could
probably get it going if we really wanted to, but I'm just not gonna
happen. But if we all just did it right now, yeah, going
there sounded like a centerfold for a second. This is BombCast Revengeance Episode eight
thirty five. There's been eight hundred and thirty four BombCast revenge is before that.
We did it, and this week we got plenty to talk about.
We're gonna do our most anticipated game, anticipating games left for the rest of
this year. Last week we did, Hey, our favorite games of the
year so far. So we figured, let's look at what's left. There's
not a ton, but we found some that we'll talk about here in a
minute. We'll talk about games, but first we just got that in streamed
Fallout. That was a lot of fun for upf Mike. You got to
miss around some mods. Tell me for shoot, it was like, did
it peak your interest at all? For mods? In the real way?
It was fun to do that. But no, I'm still very much with
these bethesta games, Like I know for some people that is like the thing
I remember, like a star Fields, like, well we'll wait for them,
MAZI for mods, it's like, I don't know, I don't really
care about any of these mods, even when I'm just like like we're gonna
make a texture slightly better and I don't care, and know it's like real
goofy, like like the Macho Man thing was really funny. I get almost
the same effect watching a YouTube video of like the Mato Man dragon right all
that in Scarim in a video, and that was good for me. I
didn't need to go install the mod and then like have it happened to me
for real? Yes, I know exactly what you mean. And and those
like those joke mods, they're funny the first couple of times and then it's
like, well, I'm just playing the game now. There are mods though
that are a completely different story. And yeah, like when because Starfield didn't
have DLSS, so the one that like turned f SR into DLSS, like
that's that's nothing I'll use. Well that was star Food. It would be
mods or like that, and like a mod to add a map into Yeah,
for Fallout four in skym it's like, we're gonna do fun stuff for
stuff. It's like, how about some yeah, like features that make it
game? What if it was fun? I mean that is the video I
just naked. Jake on YouTube did that like great breakdown of Red Dead Redemption
two, and then he just went back to it recently and he's like,
uh, you know, I've reconsidered it, and mostly because it came out
a piece seeing it, I installed a bunch of mods, and I'm like,
Okay, I bet if I installed a bunch of mods into Red Dead
Redemption too, I can have a pretty good time with what they made there.
And that's that is the kind of game where I am, so I'll
keep doing mind. I can see that because like that game more so than
even like betas the game, it is kind of hard to veer off from
that story pass sometimes if you kind of mod read there Redection two to be
more of this like pure open world open just you are a cowboy going around.
The one that really piqued my interest there is exactly that, like where
it's the bank robberies work the way you expect them to instead of being like
scripted sequises. No, it's like, now I can just go to my
my own emergent bank robbery. I'm like, okay, yes, I would
install that and I would have a very good time with that. So yeah,
I don't know. You guys have anything else going on this week?
How's everyone doing? I am like beat, I'm dead tired. Yeah,
not getting enough? What did we ready for the weekend? I can't remember
the past three days though, define more Gamma ever upload the other half of
that? When we did our PlayStation I did, don't worry, I got
you, Yeah, I thought, I'm not gonna remember to build my time
for if I don't see a YouTube video, don't worry a video for some
reason, Mike, who can say, yeah, yeah, I down.
I'd worked a lot this week. I did. I mean, you know,
it's this kind of work and like, you know, normal job work,
so it's not like I'm, you know, in the steel mill or
something, but still is a lot of work. I'm a little mentally drained.
I I kind of want to watch some TV shows and that's fucked up
for me. I never do. But like X Men ninety seven looks amazing,
and people like the Fall Show, and you know, it's like there's
a time of life where I did really like fall Out and it'd be kind
of fun to get back into that. So maybe I'll do x Men first,
because that's you know, thirty minute episodes or it's not all Out.
I'll catch up on that. Yeah, maybe I'll check out Fallout. Who
knows. Yeah, I'm I'm kind of into I think I'm gonna check out
Fallout camping and people are getting excited about it. I mean honestly, just
seeing you play, I'm like, oh, I like Fallout enough, and
I bet that show will we just amplify that. Yeah, I do kind
of want to play fall up, not not for up. What I really
what maybe is to watch Jeff play New Vegas. Finally New Vegas. That's
the one I want to. No, I never played it. I started
it a couple of times, and I haven't really played it. That's why
he likes fall Out four. I'm always missing. I'm joking. I do
kind of want to like go back to us Fall seventy six and see what
that's like now. I haven't played it since it was new and bad.
Yeah, I think there's people put scenes in there. Yeah, crazy God
that was that was a whole update was it's like there's people, people,
people in the game because every other question you got from a computer. Yeah,
yeah, we were. We were in that meeting earlier this week where
we're like figuring out stuff, and it's like the reason we did this fall
Out streams like a little peg behind the curtain here is like, hey,
you know, we're trying to see if we do these big events where everyone
was working together kind of doing something similar for when there are big things coming
out. So the fall Out TV show is here, let's do this as
a test. It's like, yeah, well, we'll see how it works,
but like we'll do something with that. Maybe we should play fall Out
seventy six. And at that time, it was like is everyone going to
be around for that? That would be something fun to do, so instead
we did the mod thing. But hey, next week people are still gonna
care about Fallout. I would like to play show Out seventy six, So
maybe we could do that on the website next week. That'll be cool.
Yeah, I think that'd be very cool. Although I wonder is that the
kind of game where we can dip in for an hour and a half to
two hours and get something out of it or definitely not. I recall even
back then that the intro stuff wasn't too bad. Actually, like you kind
of got out in the world relatively click. I might be misremembering, and
again, very different game now, So who knows how much other shit that
it throws at you at this point. Maybe we just have to like do
a tutorial before the stream or some Yeah. Yeah, I just think maybe
it seems like the kind of game that would be fun to dip in on
my Steam deck to like get started, and then we get on the PC
and play together. That could be cool. Yeah, all right, you
know what, let's talk about video games. The Eclipse? Sorry was this
week? That's crazy? Oh yeah, but oh I was like, I
mean last weekend. No, that's what that was during a weekday. That
was Monday. That was Monday, Yeah, this Monday. Yeah. What
did you all do for the Eclipse? Did you? Did you guys traveling?
Mike? I know you traveled into those zone of fatality. Yeah.
I just had to like drive like thirty minutes to get into totality. So
I did that with my brothers and their family. So we went to like
a place there was an old car factory here that's been shipped down for a
while. There's like something there, but basically a big empty parking lot,
and the local university's astronomy department was there kind of like they had some telescopes
and they were talking about what's going on. So it was neat because you
know, there were like a lot of people, but we also had our
own space. The kids were there and they were, you know, relatively
into it. There were definitely stretches where they got bored, but like once
totality happened, everybody was just completely stunned. It was so worth to like
get actually in totality. That was stark. That was dramatic. Yep,
I was mes marius by it for sure. All right. I played a
game Tales of Kenzera Zau. Oh yeah, the preview embargo is up,
and I'll just kind of talk about like my initial reaction to it, which
is maybe Jen wasn't lying. It feels really good and sometimes I'm like,
okay, so it has the things you expect from a metroid Vana movement,
like library where you can pull from Okay, I could do the double jump
and I have a dash, and I think the double jump feels pretty good.
I think the dash might actually feel better than the dash in Prince of
Persia of the Lost Ground, which surprised So it's like, okay, so
they have like some good juice in the way you move around in this game.
But think, I'm imagine probably you know, early on, I'm not
sure if it's gonna get more complex than this or sort of challenge me more.
I don't think the combat's gonna be quite as good as it was in
Lost Crowns, but it's definitely in that zone of it being good enough.
And I think having the option of being able to switch between the masks of
so people don't know it is a metro advan yet it does look a lot
like The Lost Crown but it has both melee and and you know a gun
that you can shoot by switching these masks, and the gun's like, you
know, a little p shooter and that feels pretty cool. And then you
could switch over this other mask. We can get into someone's ass and just
like actually tear them up with the heavy and the light attack like a lot
of combat games. And I'm like, I'm having a good time when I'm
doing that stuff. But really it is all about getting around this world,
exploring seeing finding puzzles, being like, Okay, I'm gonna be able to
solve that eventually, like keeping that in the back of the head and then
exploring some more, just like a good Metroidvan yet and I'm pretty impressed by
it. I think the afro futurism style doesn't feel like it is like too
rote at this point where it's like, oh, it's just pulling from everything
everything else that's done that before. It's like, no, it's got its
own way of approaching that. And at the same time does have like,
oh, there's some cool purple lighting like I imagine in Black Panther or whatever,
and I'm I'm down with that. I'm enjoying that quite a bit.
And then I'm playing with I'm not gonna be able to remember the language,
but I'm playing in the in the African language, and then I hear I
read the English subtitles, and that's pretty cool. It's setting a tone as
well, and I'm just, yeah, I think they've done a very good
job here for especially a game that I was like, I kind of came
out of nowhere. Yeah, I've seen it in a couple of things now,
but I could see why EA was like, hey, this is this
would be a good fit for EA originals. It does feel like it's of
that quality, something like something else. I don't think it's Swahili. That's
right. If it was with Swahili, I would have remembered it, but
I don't think it is. I could check it. I could. I'm
serious to check it out. I mean, I'm not surprised if here that
it's combat. It's not as good as Lost Crown. I don't think any
two D game has combat as good as the Lost Crown. The fact,
which is why I'm trying to be like, it's not that good, as
it's not as good as that, and yet it's also still very fun,
very engaging, and I'm enjoying it. There's also the estion of like,
is the combat going to be different because you have ranged options, which is
deemphasized in Prince of Perch. I would say, yes, yeah, you
have like your little bone arrow, but it's not much so yeah, absolutely,
like if you kind of mix it up a bit, that'll work fine.
And the fact that to hear that, like the platforming, which is
another important component, does feel good. That's something it is silly perstem okay.
I didn't. It wasn't spelled the way you're spelling it our Wolves,
So that's why I didn't think it was Swahili. Okay, cool, Yeah,
it's it is a game that I think is probably going to be right
there in that pantheon of cool modern Metroad Venya games, just based on what
I played so far, and that is very exciting the fact that we're like
just kind of getting all these back to back now, I'm just I'll be
interested to see how they sort of get across the story if that can maintain
a certain level of engagement from me throughout, which is not a guarantee.
It's also not sort of a deal breaker if it doesn't, but you know,
we'll see. The way that they are delivering it so far is we're
stopping the game, We're having the two little Jpex come out and talk to
one another, and like, that's that's fine to a certain extent. I
hope there's not too much of that. I like, you know, I
think the peak of storytelling for me in this genre is still Metroid Dread,
where it's like, yeah, told environmentally, and then Samus Aaron has one
line of dialogue that just rips so hard and then two lines technically but yeah,
right, two lines, yes, and then and then she becomes a
Metroid spoiler. Sorry, I can't help christ that's crazy. It doesn't it
doesn't have to. It's just like excited. Yeah, if you have it,
if you haven't played it by now you have, that's that's your own
fault for the point. Because I like it. I've tried to tell people
that it's so exciting and hearing the phrase she becomes a metroid, what does
that mean? It's still delivered because if you played the last Metro game before
this, you know that she is already. I'm that's right, so exactly.
Yes, ah, I like I think Metroid Vane is. And now
I'm thinking about like, yeah, because that is one thing. Lost Crown
to storytelling I think was fine for me, but like dread or even games
that do have more story like the Ori games are hollow night, I think
handle that stuff really well. Yeah, Lost Crown was mostly serviceable in that
regard. Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to Zoo though. I like I
mentioned our momcast before I played that demo, which, by the way,
that demo is still available over on Steam. I don't know if it would
be anywhere else. I haven't checked, but I played during next Fest and
neal they just kept up after that, and so you'll look for it for
yourself. I think movement wise, I I kind of like better in Prince
of Pergia because it feels a little more fluid in how the movement goes.
Prince of Perga feels a little stop and go. To me, it always
feels very good, but does feel like you sometimes have to stop to use
the ability right or to you like traverse something. But I think this just
felt a little more. It feels very Metroid Dread in the little I played
of it. Rub So yeah, it's also coming to PlayStation Plus day one.
Oh okay, nice. I don't know what tier it is, but
I think it is just the base tier. I think it's like there's three
and you never know if a game is launchings which one you need. It's
always very weird. But yeah, that come out end of the month.
I'm looking forward to that one. Yeah, and I'll be playing more of
it, and once we could talk about it in a larger capacity and I've
played a lot more, we'll revisit that on a BombCast for sure. I
think I think Dan's playing it as well. I'll see we can get a
couple more codes for everybody. Several else can jump in if they want.
Anyone else playing anything well. In a similar vein, I did play The
Rogue Prince of Persia, the new Rogue like take on the series. I
got to play kind of an early preview from from movie soft tier. I
got to play for about an hour and it's it's it is very funny because
this is not connected to the Lost run in any way, but it is
still like a two D game with a lot of emphasis on combat and platforming.
So and it still feels good. It still feels really good, but
it is a bit different, you know. You know, you can get
different weapons, right, so you start off with I think the Daggers,
but you could get a saber or even a big axe and they all sort
of work differently. And then there's all the roguelike stuff where like, yeah,
like the law is gonna be different. You still can find like challenge
rooms where you have very bespoke platforming challenges that feel really good. The best
thing is the way that they incorporate wall running into this, whereas in Lost
Crown the wall running was basically just an air dash here you actually do run
on a wall if it is in the background, and usually there is a
wall in the background, but it's not just a horizontal thing. You could
run up at vertically for a bit or diagonally, so it's very versatile how
you can move around that and when you are sort of chained together like a
double jump into a wall, run into you know, a wall jump,
and all this other stuff, it feel is very nice. So yeah,
I think it's incredibly promising already from what I played. I think it might
have a similar like story thing where it's like, yeah, there's some story
here. It's not the same story, it's not the things up, but
it is like you know, it's like Jeff said, the JPEG's talking at
each other kind of thing again, which whatever. That's so that's fine.
I think the art style is like gonna be divisive. I like it.
I love it. I think it looks yeah, it's they that unshaded kind
of uh right, which I think throws some people off. I'm it's yeah,
I think that. I think that people mostly are down with that.
I think it's it is the like you said, the Dan record thing of
the animation. People until they play it and have their hands on it,
are like, why is this rotoscoping look so like smooth or whatever? And
they do take the new grounds and it's like, uh, that is that's
part of the Prince of personal legacy. So I think that for me,
it pops off in a way that is very positive, right, Like,
to me, it immediately read as, oh, this is an old like
the original, like Prince of Persia's which very much had that rotoscope looked at
all those cinematic platformers did. Yeah. I actually I think I think that
look is very cool too, because then it does make it feel distinct from
The Lost Crown, whereas the Lost Crown is very much Ubisoft making a modern
game and moren take on that formula. This, like you said, feels
like a homage. I think there's a space for both of them as a
result. I think that's very cool right. Also, I want to say
I did end up watching the Triple I initiative thing that they did afterwards,
wen't have the time to watch it here on the site, but some cool
announcements in there, like I saw what one that people have talked about before.
But ges Staltz demon cinders just like a pixel or probably Metroid venue thing
that looks cool. But the revealed trailer for this for the Rogue Prince of
Persia, I thought was very cool. I usually I usually don't like when
there's a very like animated trailer that often looks like it has kind of nothing
to do with the game. But the fact that it was in the art
style of the and then seamlessly transitioned into a game play that was so sick.
Yeah, I'm I didn't know in screenshots if I would like this art
style, but in motion I think it looks very nice. Yeah, I'm
right there with you, and then anyone else have any time for anything else?
New Hell Divers. Yeah, I won't dwell on this one too much.
But we played Hell Divers, and I played Hell Divers. Actually I
don't know if Nikki did for the first time, but I played for the
first time. I literally I played the tutorial and then I did one mission
by myself, so like this when we did the stream this week, that
was the first time i'd like played the game for real. All right,
cool? So yeah, you can speak to those two. Yeah, how'd
you find it? Okay? Yeah, it was really fun. So much
fun. Yeah, to make sure that I was like ready for the stream
and got over any tutorial stuff or anything. I uh, that was my
game night with the boys this week was you know, we did our usual
tech in session, but then we just played Hell Divers too until you know
it's time to log off, and we did the tutorial together. We were
just it was instantly the real quick that that involved you having to be like
spend some money on this game, right, They had to like go buy
the game. Yeah, it was on sale right now, so it was
even more reasonable. It was like thirty bucks. So they were like that's
great. Yeah, And I mentioned one have on bought directly on Steam because
he was like, all right, well if we spend like an hour and
a half, I am in the refund window if I want to, and
he didn't because we had such such a fun time and that one that's very
cool. Yeah. So starting out though, like we were just on Discord
call doing the tutorial and everyone's just cracking up at the opening the tutorial where
it's just like, oh yeah, this is very like super Troopers or whatever,
just very over the top like military stuff. It's very funny. Then
when we got in It was nice going back to a co op shooter like
this and just going out accomplishing missions together and having silly moments happen. This
happened in our stream as well here on the site. But I I just
saw this thing on the ground, like is that mine? As my friend
walks right into it and goes flying. Though those types of moments are so
good in this game. I low what happens. It's just like in the
first one I brought up when like Mike got squished by something dropping. You
know that thatcount of stuff still happens despite the different play style and camera angle
and everything. All that emergence stuff is still in there. I think it's
just a very fun time. Yeah. I also think it like it does
so much aesthetically. Yes, like the parody like nationalistic jinguistic stuff that it
does, yes, is good. But I think it plays the presentation of
it so seriously and so well that like when you are on the planet and
then they you are like actively in combat with these things, it feels like
atmospherically, it feels correct, it feels good right like the The Red and
I feel like you all have talked about this before, but like the red
lasers that are firing across the screen and the fog that happens on the Automaton
planets. It feels very different and very uh synthetic compared to like the greens
and the browns that take place on like all of the bug planets and like
there, it does feel distinct and different, even though the thing that you
were fundamentally doing is still holding right trigger and pressing on the deep head.
Sometimes it's good, like I think it's really good. I also like this
was the first game where I felt like the the because I was playing on
PS five where I felt like the dual sense was actually doing something interesting since
I played Astro's playroom and that was nice to feel like justified. So I
was playing on PC lin Xbox control or what what does the dual sounds to
do? Over? It's got, it's got the it's got the trigger stuff,
which I think is actually cool, Like I like the adaptive trigger,
so yeah, let's go. Yeah, I think I think most people it's
mostly mean. Who's the hater with my arthurritic hands? And don't sure?
Yeah, I don't think of it, don't don't like them, I just
don't think. I don't know, they don't work in most games, or
they don't. It doesn't make a difference. That's that's the thing, Like,
it doesn't, it doesn't. It is turned off. I use mine
all the time. Yeah, but it like as you get as you empty
the clip, the there's like lesser resistance on the right trigger when you bottom
out and the clip is empty. It feels different, like not every game
is I think built for adaptive triggers because it is making your fingers work at
a rate that is like someone, no, not your hands out in Call
of Duty, right in that case of course, Yeah, I definitely did
have a thing and Phase seven Rebirth they have like a pull up mini game,
right and they're doing the adaptive triggers, and it's it's yeah, like,
oh, there's more resistance the more tired you get. But like the
hardest difficulty of that is very difficult, and it just makes it significantly easier
to turn off the adaptive triggers for a second seeking actually beat that mini game.
Yeah, as a piece of technology, I think it's really sick.
It is nuts that that is the only thing I can like point to you
that the PlayStation four could not do, you know, yeah, yeah,
I think I think both these console people are gonna have to try to figure
out so maybe slightly more enticing features for their next system than the kind of
built in hints system and like yeah, that was a really big deal and
then never talking about it again once the console launches, like, yeah,
they're going to figure some stuff out. Yeah, that's like when we did
a BCR earlier in the year about our year in preview, talking about what
we were excited for in our thing. That's why we say that, like
a PlayStation may have been the least interesting because they just have a console and
it's a good console overall, but it is still just that console experience,
whereas something like exactly what you know it is, Yeah, it's what you're
expected. The switch is interesting because of the handheld factor. PC is always
interesting. Xbox may move in a different direction than what they have right now,
and that's interesting. So you know, the console has a place,
but it's just it's not interesting in the way they used to be. And
I think now everyone having access to things like a super fast SSD and a
you know, at least better processor, being able to do all this dec
compression or anything. Yeah, they're having what we've had PC for a long
time now. I think that's great for sure. Yeah. The consistency,
I will say, the consistency of playing video games on the Xbox series X
and the PlayStation five is leads ahead of the PlayStation four. Yes, yeah,
I mean the playfacks four had a laptop hard drive in it. Yeah,
basically netbook. Yeah, it was awful, like awful stuff. So
like from a will the game run reliably? You can be like, yeah,
and it'll run pretty good, so for sure video game. Hey Sean,
do you see the Doori's famed Persona slash taka leak your Madoria saying that
Persona one and two remakes are coming. Oh maybe like step back from like
remake remake, like some kind of updated form of Persona one and two.
Interesting okay, because we heard from I think someone other than Midori, which
is why it's like, you know, people don't take it when as much
series as that, two and four were like lined up. So it sounds
like the very least two would be the one that's considered. I bet they
are all going to get that treatment eventually. I mean four is absolutely going
to happen, but one and two is interesting because those games do not play
much like the Persona three four five formula. They're basically just different games.
Like they are two Persona almost what Tea is too Persona. They're so different.
I mean, it is like you have like high school students, right,
and like that's kind of it because it's more recruiting. It's kind of
more of like a what I remember. It's a kind of more grid based
placement stuff matters combat. It's real, yeah, weird and different. You
don't have social links, you don't have the calendar. I think that's a
first person Dungeon Crawler is like like all those games. It's a lot more
like the old school set games. You have the actual like demon negotiating and
all that stuff too. So yeah, just impress. You guys went this
long without talking about the colors want to Matter I think and white video game.
Yeah, that's the weird thing about Persona. Like you know, it's
kind of like Street Fighter too. How Street Fir two is kind of the
first blood, like no disrespect PERSDA what to do? They are good?
But like what I think talking about how I really like Persona. What I
mean is like that series that started with PERSDA three, but I really like
that's overwhelmingly that's where Persona, as most of us like it started, So
he kind of just one and two one two deserves some sort of update though,
just to bring it into uh, you know, into play with everything
else. Nicky Raising giant bomb dot com. Hi, Yeah, Nikki Grayson,
Giant bomb dot Com. Folks in chat are saying that Hitler is in
Persona likes so much. Yes, I believe that's the Jeff Drobe's pin tweet.
If you go to twet Hitler's my pin tweet. Yeah, I mean
I think the soul of Hitler is involved. Yeah. Yeah, they bring
up Hitler and they're sorry about it. Okay, Yeah, I don't want
to say too much because I'm trying to think of but yeah, there is
just a character not named Taylor, named something else who is just Hitler,
and I believe he's a boss character or something. So yokai you can capture
him and make him fight other yokai. They know, Well, good for
you so much about me, Jeff just every all these things. Yeah,
nailing it. Remember was that Persona too when they were trying to like just
name it series revelations in the US for a little bit that was the first
one. The first one was Revelations Persona. Yeah, yeah, it was
Persona two. And then here in the West, Meyers saying is this was
never the case. Over in Japan they call it shimmagami tense Persona. That
was specifically a thing for right, I remember seeing that, right, Yeah,
because this is weird because they had like thought that we really loved s
MT after was on PS two. Yeah, I guess what the time,
they did localize a good amount of SMT games. On PS two you had
Nocturn and the the the action based ones in Digital Devil Saga, so like,
I guess there were a few of them, so they invested in that
name. But yeah, Persona became so much bigger than that. I'm I'm
looking at a Reddit thread and they're like they are kind of trying to force
the coloring scheme onto the first two games, Like the first one was kind
of white and gray and the second one was red and black, and then
but Persona five is red and black also, so yeah, they just want
to do in that what is Persona too Innocent sin? So they're two Persona
two games, and they're basically like Part one and Part two we only got
part one in the US originally, so it was messed up. It's just
like a half Oh I see. Yeah. Is Persona as a spin off
as big as Extreme Makeover Home Edition was relative to Extreme Makeover Origin? Is
Extreme Makeover Home Edition on the mount rushmore of spin offs of spin offs?
Real quick? It's more mess up than I thought. We only got part
two we did, Okay, that's what I Part two is two. I
guess maybe Part one had Hitler. Maybe that was I think that's it.
I think that literally is it? Yes, the mystery saw Hitler. But
all right, I think what we're gonna do now is we're gonna take a
quick break. When we get back, we'll talk about our topic for this
episode right after this twenty twenty four, it's a year on the calendar.
But are there any more video games? Scientists still aren't sure. We're gonna
do our best to figure it out. Nikki has their answer. No,
no, no, more games are over. Yeah, games are over.
Okay, So yeah. The reason we're doing this is, like, like
I said, at the beginning of the episode last week, we were like,
hey, what are your favorite games of the year so far? We
all put our lists together. It's been a stacked year so far, and
then you do look ahead and say, okay, things are starting to slow
down, but that doesn't mean there's absolutely nothing. But then that backs the
question, what is there? We're gonna do this in a couple of tiers.
We're gonna do our most anticipated game that's announced and has a date,
then a game that might come out, and then a game that is a
long shot. There'll be some overlap. We'll kind of make it more discussion
based, but yeah, where should we start for the game that we're most
excited about that definitely has a date to anyone have one they want to throw
out? I mean it did just have you know that store reveal in a
release eight come out? Star Wars Outlaws is something that pretty imminent that I'm
thinking about a lot right now. Yeah, same here, and I think
it looks pretty promising from the trailers, uh even the like that revealed trailer
from Summer Game Fest last year wherever it was like, this looks pretty solid.
I'm pretty down with what Massive has done. I thought the Division games
are a good time. I thought that Avatar game was really solid all things
considered, and this looks like they are putting a lot more effort into it,
So I'm really hopeful. And I like the Star Wars games that is
about the grimy underworld, so and this is definitely that. Yeah, we
got enough Jedi games. Yeah that's yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna
say. So so much of Star Wars is in Marvel's issue too, right,
is like, oh, we never saw the Lightsabers mod that I put
in the game, that we saw it loaded, we saw a sword.
I will have assumed that would have been at but no, Yeah, me
too. We've had so many canceled like Star Wars games that were trying to
be some kind of underworldy more because there was Star Wars with the numbers whatever
that was tag Amy Headings Joy that didn't happen, an A and a game
that they didn't multiple size it. There was there was another EA game that
that I heard about that that that has been talked about in other places,
but it was also going to be an underworld game. And the people I
talked to you were like, yeah, we were going to kind of do
this simulation of the galactic economy where you are working as a smuggler, and
it was going to be kind of like sid Meers Pirates, the Star Wars
game I always really wanted, So I've been kind of sad ever since then
this this looks kind of like it's going for that vibe. Yeah, And
it like it seems like it's approaching these spaces in the way that I want
them to be approached, which is to say that, like, I have
no interest in kind of being on a big planet that has jackshit on it.
I want a very I want it to be like like shadow Box,
ye, Like I want it to be very detailed and intentionally designed. And
I am okay if it is small. If you are putting me in a
city that feels like it has lived in and people are active in like,
that is more engaging to me than anything. And I hope to God that
there are no Jedi in it. Yeah, so it's set between Empires and
Return of the Jedi, which is when there would be the fewest jedire.
That is not a promise that there won't be on again. I mean,
how did you guys feel when like the trailer was like it's Jaba the Because
even even f I should give it a little bit, but even that I
was a little bit of course, I think like Java being important tracks right,
like completely makes sense? Yes, right, but that that and that's
why I'm like, I'm down with that a little bit more than I am
like Kira from this from Solo a Starlar story, being like, well,
now she's in charge of that game will bring Okay, that just that feels
a little bit more forced, and yet it does make an enough since because
she's in charge of this criminal syndicate and that is one of the things that
you were interacting with commonly in this game, So I get it. But
if they kind of go above that, and it is if like Luke Skylbarker
shows up, yeah, I'm mad, Yeah, like legitimately and actually like
I'm mad if a lightsaber, if I get to hold the lightsaber in this
game, I'm actually annoyed. How would you feel? How would you feel
if they did a bit where like a lightsaber shows up and they're just like,
who who wants one of these? Or what is that thing? Yeah?
Right, this is stupid. This is stupid. I have a gun
shoot lightsabers. That'd be a good bite if you found it. You're like,
oh man, this is gonna be worth so much. When I fence
it and they're like, nobody wants these these this is get it out.
Yeah, that'd be cool. All right, let's keep it moving. Then
who's got the next game? That's me baby. Ntua A Football twenty five
Return to Form. It's really weird. I hadn't played a Madden game in
a few years, and right before the Super Bowl, I downloaded the game
on the free trial and I did an entire season, like a creative character
season. Oh and I had a blast, like I think Matt like if
as a person who is not really looking at Madden for a simulation situation,
I'm looking for some time in between or something in between, like an arcade
experience like an NFL blitz. But I do want a little I want more
plays, right, Like I do want to be able to do motion offense
and move my guys around in that kind of stuff. And like getting get
out twenty five minutes, you play a game of Madden fucking ruled like I
thought. It felt so good. And the thing that I really liked about
the nt double A games in the past is that while the the franchise mode
stuff in the Madden games got really boring and stale, Like I was always
looking for, like the ability to change the price of popcorn at my thing,
because that's like really what I got into when I was playing Madden O
five in NT double because it's a college and like you get and there's so
many College football is so fucking weird. There's like conferences and alignment and now
like there's a transfer portal, which did not exist before. You're gonna like
there's so many silly like institutional things that I hope make their way into playing
the game that I'm really excited to play it in franchise mode and like pick
a random school and move it from either being like out of conference or like
and move it into a conference and like move it up with division because like
those storylines you just can't do in a Madden game because everyone's at the same
level. Like, I'm really excited about that from a from a game play
building perspective, I'm excited about it. Do you expect those those features to
be in here from the first line, because I'm like, I'm worried about
it that they're like kind of like we got the football and yet we have
something akin to a transfer protocol. I'm just I'm worried about the robustness of
it. I am you're your copit, So I'm confident because it's like a
little bit what the fuck are you doing otherwise? Honestly, like and I
considering it is just going to be the Madden engine slightly tweaked a little bit,
like if if they haven't been building this these mechanics, I like really
don't know what they've been working on. Yeah, that's the frustrat thing I
hear. I hear about development is that they don't want this to be last
year's Maden reskinned. Yeah, they want this kind of to stand on its
own. I'm like, it's okay if it's last year's Maden reskinned. As
long as you have all the right college football on top of it, that's
all we really need. So focus on that. But I guess make it
a very good, fun to play football game will be key as well.
It's huge. When is that coming out? Because I I've meant to say
this Star Wars about August thirtieth. When is this autu? I think also
August. I will look it up NCAA. That would be the right time
for the football season twenty five. They haven't any gameplay from that game,
which is nuts either, right, I think they last time I talked about
it, I think they said they would show it off in the next couple
of months. Yeah, so yeah, I don't think it has an official
date yet that they'll probably do all of that at the same time. Then
all right, next up, Mikey, is it gonna be an MMO year
for you? It kind of is. I think it's gonna be a big
MML year, which is a good thing to have, and what might be
a lighter year because yeah, this summer, I gotta look that up.
This Foul Fantasy fourteen down trail, so the next expansionon for that, this
one has going to kind of have some some tropical vacation vibes to it,
which I think is gonna be really exciting. It's also the start of a
new storyline, the kind of storyline that did start with a realm reborn even
a bit in like the original Foul Fantasy fourteen had its big finale with the
last expansion and Walker, So like, I think everyone's kind of spending dontro
to start off real light and fun, but then there's gonna be stuff happening
that's going to kind of lead us to like another really big ten year story
arc, and you know we have new jobs. I think Picto Mancer looks
really neat. It's uh like an artist who uses the magic paintbrush to murder
people like pick Mickey, like thick Mickey. Yeah, we'll say that's coming
back to So I'm looking forward to try that out. Basic fourteen. It
has just been so good for a while now. Any new content of that
I am looking forward to. But then yeah, like later this year.
It doesn't have an exact release date yet, but World Warcraft The War Within
is going to come out, and but World of Warcraft in general, it's
just kind of popping off real hard right now. They added a Battle Royale
mode that people like a classic is happening. Yeah, sorry, correct,
you told me this before, And I'm meant to be like, wait,
what would it take for me to do to play that? Like I hoplate
in I don't know, I don't, I don't know if you have to
be mex level. It's it's I need to check it out myself. Still.
It's called Plunderstorm. It's all pirate themed stuff. It's like a yeah,
so it's a World Warcraft pirate themed battle Royale. But is it still
just World of war TV. No, I think it's different, Like I
don't think you necessarily taken your class ability. I don't know, I need
to try it. But I think people actually saying all you need is a
sub. It doesn't even use your real characters. That's it. It doesn't
use your real character. So so that's all you need is a sub and
you can hop right into it. Currently, maybe we need to check that
out. Then, Yeah, that sounds like a wild time. If that's
the first way that I ever played World of Warcraft, that would be ideal.
People are like, you know, like I like to peek in at
the World Warcraft subreddit and you know, for the last decade it's just people
complaining. And I was in there the other day and people are happy,
Like people had like the mean like the guy hold like to like getting offered
too much stuff. It was like all the positive things. Hell, yeah,
good person. Yeah, because like there's like apparently subscriptions are at like
a very good point maybe seven point five million ish, which is insane.
So with everything else that's like not going great, maybe a blizzard, they're
that although en erual, a lot of things seem to be getting righty there
because people seem very excited about the new season of the album four, which
is coming out in like a couple of days. I kind of want to
check that out. You know, Overwatch too is still overwatched too, but
yeah, you know, it could also bounce back, like people in the
reddit being happy for you, though, Like while I was like, yeah,
I could put it off to the side and I'll come back to it,
were you starting to feel kind of worn down by it as well?
Yeah? I mean I definitely was kind of like over it a bit because
I had played pretty intensely for a while, especially when when war Wards of
drain Or came out, which is not a good expansion. I did play
a lot of it, and I also played a lot of Legion, and
I even played a good amount of Battle for Azeroff, which is not a
liked expansion at all. And then after that was shadow Lands. Shadow Lands
was the low point that was just a bad so you had like a banger
after banger of things kind of ruined in your experience, right that you got
burned out on it At that time. At least was playing Classic and that
was fun, but like I was playing Classic with people. It took classic
pretty seriously. So for you, we're all of that. I was just
done and from Fantasy fourteen was there, and I was playing a lot of
that, and it was just more of my speed. But now I'm at
a point where I almost have like equal amounts of time devoted to both of
those games. I could kind of just jump back and forth between them whenever
I want to. Uh, Sean, we don't have to go in order,
So if you had one on this list you want to bring up,
feel free to go for it. No, it's okay, Well let's just
keep going in order. It's cool, okay, all right. Yeah.
The next one we have here is Indiana Jones in the Great Circle, which
I didn't put on here, but I feel good about it as well.
Who dropped this one? I put it on there. I am looking forward
to this quite a bit. I still like Indiana Jones. Yeah, And
I think, honestly, I think the great thing about doing a video game
is that we can make kind of the Indiana Jones adventure that you really can't
with movies anymore for a variety of reasons these days. So just like,
hey, we're going to make like a trip people, and all the people
and Disney. Yeah, absolutely, you got it. I don't know what
we see so far looks good and oh my god, you know that this
developer, Yeah, the Machine Games makes good video games. Yeah, they're
just not gonna they made a bad game here. Yeah, And I'm like
legitimately excited to see what that like. No, that my favorite part,
and and maybe this is a mistake in thinking, but my favorite part about
Wolf at the Wolf and the New Wolf and Sign Games is that it was
entirely unpredictable what the fuck was going to happen next? And I was like
strapped in amped about every single thing that was happening because the writing was so
good, the pacing was so strong, and it felt the stakes all kind
of felt legitimate, and like Indiana Jones built in has those steaks right,
And I'm really I'm just really excited to see what they do with this story.
I doubt someone's gonna get beheaded and have their head put on a different
body in this one, but who can say. Yeah, I'm a huge
machine games fan, I love those Wolfenstein games, and I love Indiana Jones,
So yeah, that's it's taking a lot of boxes for me. I
am like unsure of how this game. I mean, we saw a little
bit of it so far, and when we do see it, it's like,
you know what, I think this can work. I just actually maybe
I am worried about the first person perspective a little bit. Well, I
think I think they can. You can make a good Indiana Jones game that's
the first person. It's not that. I think it's them being a situation
where like they want to make the game that they're good at, and then
they feel pressure to do those like third person sections, which they also said
are in the game. Because it's like, well, you got to see
Indiana Jones, and I'm like, oh, if they're feeling that pressure,
I wonder if they're just not confident about it or something, and that's what's
maybe betraying it to me a little bit. So Okay, I'm glad you
brought that up, because I thought you were the our way around where you
were like, shut the hell up, like first person is fine. But
I mean I I am outwardly that way. Internally I'm conflicted. Oh god,
So yeah, because I'm in the same spot where I'm looking at it's
like, I mean, they are good at making first person games, and
I like you, I I love the first person games. It's just it
feels so unnecessary because if you're obviously, if it's what you're good at,
that's what you expect the studio to do. But the fact that they are
doing the third person segments seems like, well, okay, they're they're programming
for this, they're accounting for the third person stuff, and if people are
expecting a third person game at that point, it feels to me like they're
almost just doing it in first person to be different. And in addition to
the fact that they are good making those games, that's what they're comfortable with.
So if you're looking for a third person video game where you can be
Indian Entrance and I know, I think games is Fortnite. Oh oh okay
the game and it is very good. I don't know, I'm not I'm
not really worried about any of that. You know what, It almost gonna
think of Betroit Prime, right where like, yeah, sometimes it kind of
pulls out a little bit when you whatever out. I think that's what's going
to feel like, oh, you're climbing up a ladder. They're going to
pull out for that more fall making you not vomit by going in third versus
a little bit different than indies shimmying along a ledge, which is something that
he is in, something like Metro Prime. Yeah. I think the spirit
might be the same though, and we won't know until we play it.
Yeah, once we're playing it, we might be like, oh, of
course they had to go third person here, this feels right. I would
have made the same choice if I was in their shoes. We'll see.
I'm just I want that game to feel as epic and dramatic and theatrical as
possible, because it's how those are the things I think of with Indiana Jones,
And I'm just not sure until I play it that that's how I'm gonna
feel, right, all right. A couple more games on our Most Anticipated
Announced Games avowed This one. Is this one actually coming out this year or
we as a twenty four release date? God, I keep forgetting that twenty
four. Now. I think if this was, if this is like the
one on this list that's pushed back, I think it'd be the least surprising.
Yeah, for sure, I'm curious about this one. This is another
one where I really think I have to play it, where I really know
how I feel about it. When I see it in video, I'm like,
I see some elements of like the you know, the magic hands doing
magic stuff that looks somewhat appealing to me. And then the characters go and
talk to one another like they do in Obsidian games, and I'm like,
Okay, yeah, I hope that system is as deep as it can be
in other Obsidian games. But I'm like, Okay, I think they'll probably
nail that moment to moment. What am I doing? Is that fun?
Is that interesting? And do I feel good about exploring that world? I
really have no idea right at this point. At this point, yeah,
I feel pretty confident in Obsidian's ability to to pull this one off. I
guess part of me is is a little curious about the scale because I,
you know, I like the outer worlds. I want something a little bit
bigger than that. I really confined. Yes, yeah, yeah, Like
I'm in a way that is like kind of the opposite of what I was
saying about Star Wars Outlaws, right, Like, yes, the whole thing
about the outer worlds, that's right, Yeah, I'll think about the outer
worlds is that it is almost as big as I wanted it to be right,
but it was not. It was just to see the seams in outer
worlds more than you want to. How the world says that problem that a
lot of these sci fi games have because it's like, well, you're gonna
go to these different planets, so things should feel bigger. It's just like,
here's like four smaller maps instead of one big one, and that always
actually feels a lot smaller than just having the one big Skyrim style map.
Y awid that problem together? Yeah? Yeah, if I can see the
planet on a map, that means you fucked up right? Yeah? I
mean, any other thoughts about a vowed before we move on? I think
dual dual wanding? That's neat uh. Stellar Blade. This is the one
that's coming up at the end of this month. PlayStation five combat action game,
character action game. I am. I think I keep getting an urge
to go back to this demo, which apparently a lot of people are the
demos like, has a lot of players. Apparently. I think this game
is going to be pretty solid and a good time. Is everyone still feeling
that way after playing the demo? Or have you not played the demo?
What's up? Oh? Yeah, I'm Yeah, I put this on here
because I am encouraged after the demo. It's what I was hoping the game
would be. It's not quite a Platinum style character action game, but is
in the vein of a more Devil May cryish one with you know, shades
of Sacro and stuff like we've discussed before. And I'm just really looking forward
to this. One Of any game that has like an announced announced release dates
so far, this is the one I'm looking forward to the most. It's
also the one of the more recent ones, honest list. It comes on
in what two weeks, so I'm going forward to getting my hands on because
I had a great time with the demo. I think I think the demo
is you know, it's a vertical slice, So maybe some people were underwhelmed
but not realizing that in these games the combat only gets better as you unlock
stuff. So I'm looking forward to the potential of what this game could end
up being, even more so than what we've already seen and played. Yeah,
I think the one thing that worries me is a me thing, not
a game thing, where Perry windows are something that either click with me or
they don't, or they take a long time to click with me sometimes,
and it's like in some games, it's like this just feels right. Secroo
just felt right. I was able to nail it, And maybe that is
a little bit of a game thing because here I'm like, I'm trying to
look at the enemies, trying to predict their movements, trying to understand their
animations that lead into the perry window, and it's like that just doesn't feel
quite right. It did click more and more as I played it, so
I'm hoping that it will fall into place for real as I'm playing the real
game more quickly than it did when I was playing the demo. But other
than that, it's like, eah, yeah, that's something, Yeah,
go ahead. That for me differentiates it beat and what definitively makes a character
action game rather than souls like is the fact that souls you tend to like
observe the enemy moar and like look at their movements and their followds and everything.
Character action is more about the rhythm and knowing like, yeah, it
is my turn, it's still my turn. It's almost the end of my
turn. Get ready to then they'll be there turned, they'll toss out,
attack up and figure out the rhythm of things, and that's that. That's
here, and I'm looking forward to checking that out. Who's excited about definitive
edition that has? I am? You know, hey, SO was a
three d Oh exclusive first person shooter. It eventually got a PlayStation on one
port, but yeah, this was a three DO shooter. It never came
out to PC. It is very much a shooter from that area. You
play as a very angry space chef. He's po'. You might say,
it's just it's just one of those doom likes, but it was just kind
of silly and weird and kind of a product of history. Ninth Time Studio
SO has done a lot of these first person shooter remasters, like Dark Forces,
recently, all the Tarrock games Quake one and two. On April Fool's
Day they announced they're gonna do a definitive edition of this. So then like
the day after, like, no, we're serious, this is actually happening,
and I'm very excited. I have a weird fascination with the three d
O the fact that this game is going to be like on PC finally,
I think that's really neat, Like you have a jetpack this game for some
reason, like of all the boomer shooters that are like actual boomer shooters,
not modern ones, this is one of the weirder ones. I'm very excited
to go back to it. Oh fun, And they constantly do great jobs
with these, with these remastering So man, right, like one of your
like one of you like your first weapons is just like an infinite supply of
like bloody butcher knives that you throw at people, and that it's gonna be
pastic Is this Does this mean that, like, well we might not even
all be around by then, but like when Sean and I are forty eight,
we're gonna get We're gonna get like amazing island, Like Sega's gonna make
an amazing island. Hell, HD re release that Night Dive is that by
night like Night Dive is gonna make a brand new amazing island. Hell yes,
that's sounds like a healthscape that when I was young. Oh sorry,
they haven't remade any of the games that I liked when I was nine,
So this game doesn't have a release date yet, but I assume it's gonna
be sometimes this year. This isn't something that's going to take a whole lot
of time, Right, we missed that. I think Indiana Jones, like
the rumor is like December for that, So that's the only one that has
a date that we know about or might know about, all right, metaphor
re Fantasio. This is the more fantasy take on an RPG from the Persona
team, right, Fantasy Persona. Fantasy Persona is the well this this team
spun off of the Persona team. This is basically the original original issue.
Could say Persona team going off to do a different thing, and then there's
a different team that's now taken on Persona over there. Okay, cool,
I believe, But looking at it, looking at it, it's like,
yeah, this is something from the proof of the people that make Persona,
but fantasy. I always thought this game looked really cool when we saw it
in the was the Xbox Showcase last E three they announced this and Reload at
the same time, right, and I thought it looked pretty impressive. How
are you guys feeling about it? As a Persona fans? Strong, I
think it looks very good. My one thing, and it's a small thing,
is that I think part of what makes Persona interesting is that they made
a really cool RP JRPG that isn't fantasy, like almost all of them are,
right, so like you know, to be like, hey, let's
like do a different setting. Let's just go back to fantasy. It's partly
like okay, but whatever, though, they're going to find a ways to
make it interesting and to make it distinct. And I guess I'm curious to
see, like what is different here, right, because I think we still
have a calendar system and things like that that might even still be social links,
right, So it's a lot of Persona stuff in there. I think
it will just be Persona but in a different style setting, which I'm actually
kind of down for because I mean, as much as other rpg have been
high fantasy before, have we really had a game like Persona in a high
fantasy setting where it is so much about that calendar system and you know,
uh, figure out, I'm going to do this in the first half of
the day, this in the second half of the day, and then form
this very structured social link with everyone that feeds back into the gameplay in a
tangible way. I know there's so many RPGs have, you know, forming
relationships with your traveling companions and everything. Obviously BioWare is big onto that and
stuff like that, but I feel like in this specific way. A couple
couple of people pointed out three houses, I guess, but like sure,
yeah yeah, and also three houses is kind of just persona in some way,
so I guess you're right about that. It's a pretty different flavor of
fantasy, right, This is like almost like more like Alis in Wonderland's almost
a little bit I don't know, that's exactly right. Yeah, that's the
art thing I wanted to point out. It's not exactly a high fantasy.
It is more I'm trying to think, Yeah, it's like absurd or what
I'm not thinking the wrong Yeah, those words of bike. But yeah,
it's a surrealist, That's what I'm trying to It's a bit surrealist mixed in
with the high fantasy. Psychedelic is not wrongly that just came up in chat.
That's good one too, where I think they're getting a little wild.
I think we saw maybe a little bit of maybe technology in there in almost
like a magic tech type of way in that initial trailer, which I think
Jeff might have pulled up here. So I think it's just going to be
a different vibe than your typical high fantasy just it just looks. It looks
like it has. As someone in Chatman I think warden Cliff mentioned it has
the juice, the menu system, all that stuff like these games always do.
Oh yeah, that that's the thing that just came up the trailer was
what I was talking about. It like the character has maybe a hoverbart or
something like that, or maybe they're just doing magic, but some yeah,
there's an airship like something about this mixture of a little bit of technology in
the vein of some final fantasies or main monster hunt type thing. I think
that's very appealing to me, mixed with the persona formula. I think it's
going to be a really interesting game, and it is still nebulous. Twenty
twenty four I think the last we heard they did say a fall of twenty
twenty four is the target. But yeah, no exact date just yet,
but it's likely coming out. I think what's interesting is like you still obviously
have like the things in your party, but they might not actually be personas
this time, Like we're not like we're not those teams. I think it
might be people in this time, right, So that's interesting Yeah, they've
been working on this for a long time, so I won't be surprised if
this like runs deeper than we think. It's just because own ip showed up
at Xbox, people are like, oh that game. I was like,
Oh, this is the thing that you guys have known about for a long
time. The project or re Fantasy it was aw has in like twenty fifteen
or something. They've been cooking and you'll get this trailer. I'm looktting more
excited. Very good games. I'm pumped for this. It looks yeah,
all right, last one on the ones that are announced to have a date
Pokemon Trading Card Game Pocket Talk your shit. I'm just excited. I put
it on slightly as a joke. I am legitimately excited because the current Pokemon
TCG simulator ain't great, but it's also not very gamified. I think this
is going to fix one of fix both of those problems. Really, and
while I'm just more interesting because it's another way for me to play a TCG,
which I'm always into. I play different formats and stuff. I'm excited
that I think like this is the kind of game where y'all on the call
with me here probably like haven't even touched Pokemon TCG Live. But when this
trailer came up, you know, like we're going to call me Nicky Mike
Jan we were, and I was like, this is the kind of game
you people might be into, these people all y'all to bring to just because
my brain's too small for ye all. Non super on the second board the
same time. Yeah, I'm fucking amped about this legitimately, and actually I
love to play it. There's if there's one thing about me is that I
love to play a mobile card game. For two and a half months,
and that was me with Marble Snap. It was the best two and a
half months I've ever had on my phone. And then I'm really excited to
play this for also two and a half months showing the right thing. Is
this the four hundred dollars board game thing? Or that is just six though
it's called poke about trading Card game Classic not not the thing that I just
put into the chat that you can have there. It's most of the words
are the same though, it's the thing weird game based on this? Can
they send us this? Yeah, I don't have Wonderfu halfway through trade?
Yeah, I definitely want to check this out looks. Yeah, yeah,
because you like it's a simpler way to play the game, so I think
it's gonna be more accessible. I it's gonn immersive cards. I'm sorry.
So what the trailer said, you know, the car is going to be
surrounded by people playing this and he's gonna be pure pressure. Yeah, exactly,
I can't pressure. We'll get to me. I'm gonna get the Pokemon
coming about that, I didn't say, thank you, Mike, all right,
okay, So that moves us to our next tier, which are the
most anticipated games that we think might come out. This is gonna be a
little bit of shorter list. We've got a number of big ones in here.
I do think we should start with Spoon Heaven, Heaven Heaven or Hollow
Night. Silk Song is just Spoon Heaven in my brain now at this point,
that's all it is. I believe. I think this keeps coming out
this year. I think it might even come out soon. You know,
got those raty things. And that's great because Hallow Night is such a fantastic
game. I I've kind of had to stop myself from going back to it
because it's a very big game and I just don't really have time to spend
playing that right now, and not kind of catching up with new releases at
the moment, but the fact that they have been cooking so long on this.
If there's ever any thought that this was going to be kind of like
like the Miles Morales style like expand alone thing, No, this is Hollow
Night too, is my dictation now, and I'm pretty sure that is exactly
what we're gonna get. I'm just looking at like this trailer here. These
games look so good and the just watching the specific movement, like how you
know you're the character here as a bit of a different moveseet than from the
first Hall of Night. You had this very specific kind of diagonal downward slash
thing that you can use to kind of bounce off enemies. Oh my gosh,
this game is looking so gorgeous. I just like Hallow Night and I've
missed it and I can't wait to go back to that kind of game.
I love flash animation. I don't like the way this that's crazy. That's
a crazy thing. I don't see it. I don't know. You know,
me and grub Well, we don't love Hollow Night. And even we're
like that's a crazy take. Yeah, I A. I don't think that's
that. I do not see it when I look at this game for sure.
That was never my problem, and I don't really have that much of
a problem with it. It's just there's no way you wouldn't like Hallow Night.
I think I said the games that you do like. You literally played
Hollow Night and said I don't like this, Mike, what more do you
want from them? I played an hour and I said I didn't. You
went back to it. I know you're old, you probably don't remember it,
but you went back to it and you're like, yeah, Mike,
I'm sorry. I still don't like it. This is you like this?
You like the Castle, Paian, this is just that better in some ways.
In this distressed tone in your voice, the game of the year,
I'm stressed. Fire Emblem, Genealogy of the Holy World remain still fake every
game name in my presence for almost a calendar year now. It's not like
it isn't real, like you're making because the name of it, yes,
yeah, that's just the existing name of the game. It cannot be the
existing name of the game game. Anyone doesn't know. This is like I
forget the exact numbering, but it's like fire Emblem four or something on the
Super or super Famy com specifically, And we in the West didn't get fire
Emblem at all until I believe seven or eight on the Game Boy Advance.
The game that we just called fire almb was. It wasn't in the first
one in the GBA. It was a sequel to an existing GBA one.
But exactly this is a game that, like you know, people talk up
and so naturally it was set to get a remake, And we've been hearing
and maybe for a vrious sources that hey, this game just exists and they're
just sending on it. You know, is it is it mechanically interesting or
different from them, or is it just one that never came out? I
mean, I think us I think it's very similar to what those games were
at that time, which is kind of the bones of what you get these
days. But in a remake I mentioned, they'll add a lot of pressure
nice new features, the three Houses viae. They might rename it from Genealogy
a Holy War, but this will almost assuredly be Fire Emblem echoes something,
right. I think the reason why people liked this one specifically from like the
sixteen bit ones is because it had a particularly good story. I see cool.
So hey more Fireman, and I mean the fire them is a franchise
they rely on consistently, Like there's no way they're not. Also like they're
making a new fire for sure, but there's also no way they weren't making
something like this another remake. They're kind of going back and forth with these
one after the other. Uh, Like, hey, I like this one.
Jurassic Parks Survival. Yeah, the Game Game Awards where I got announced.
I don't think so. I think so. And so this is the
Alien Isolation sort of like a game that is where you play as a character
trying to survive in Jurassic Park act not Jurassic World. Jurassic Park where the
dinosaurs have escaped and you power is out the powers. That's the most part.
It's a power restoration shut shout outs to the ben I'm gonna be on
the Trivia Tower in like a week and a half. Everybody look out for
that. But that's like just straight up a good idea. That's it's a
great idea. Takeing in Isolation, put dinosaurs in there. Done, and
I hope I hope it comes across the finish line in a really strong way.
I think that that trailer looks great. Uh. The aesthetics of Dress
Park one are just so good, from like the actual like dinosaur habitats,
to like the weird kind of like natural history museum meets theme park look of
the buildings, and then like the real like you know, like like realistic
like infrastructure stuff that all that stuff just hits for me. And seeing it
in this triple A presentation, I was immediately all about this. I think
that this is such a fantastic idea. I hope it delivers on that.
I think this just doesn't really have a release date yet, so I'm not
sure if it is this year, but I'm willing to wait. Whatever it
is, I'm excited. Sure. Oh shit, and it's got the door
closing tech from the division, that's right. I get Like I remember Backlar
being like, oh, it didn't look good goodechno technologically, like the frame
rates really low in this trailer and stuff like that. But I think that's
it's gonna be dark anyway. Yeah right, yeah, you're not gonna see
those frames. It is. Who's making it, I can't remember sab right.
Yeah, okay, so I'm hopeful. I'm very hopeful. All right,
what do we have next? Zenless Zone zero? Who's the freak for
this one? Oh? You know who the freak is for this one?
This is uh, this next game. And they have a tendency to take
something that some one else did and put their own spin. You know.
Genshin was obviously against an Impact looked like Breath of a Wild in many ways,
but it was sort of like an open world RPG, and then home
k Star Rail is their take on Persona very obviously. Zeendless Zone zero is
this game that is a character action game, allegedly. I don't know.
I still know if this game is real. This is wild. I follow
their Twitter account. It Yeah, people have played it. It's been at
eventsives at packs East, and like this game exists in some form, but
they keep just not giving us a date and everything. It's very odd,
but I don't know. Like I mentioned, character action games are so few
and far between that anytime we get one that looks solid and died pop off
and you'll look at this one like the anime like cells shaded ish style that's
going for another thing. It just looks cool, and that's the sort of
overst over the top silliness you want in a character action game. So I
think this is you want to play as the mad girl or the big actual
bear person in a suit. I think he's a wolf island. Know the
characters are wild, trust me. There's an actually there's a there's a wolf,
but there is also an actual bear. Okay, this might be a
mad girl. There are three yeah, more specific. Yeah, I really
just I just I wish this was just going to be a regular video game
though, Like like I have, I have such a an antithetical stance on
the way that they monetize these video games. Yeah, I know that I
can't eat. I can't even get started on them. So like if it
was sixty dollars and then I didn't have to pay anything, yeah money,
right, Yeah, it's not going to be that, which is a bummer,
So I just don't touch it. I'll look at it from afar.
I I'll read a story that's like I bet my whole house and my kids
Porsche on this. Yeah, that's the problem I there. I hate that
they're gotcha games because I know Mike's the same way where it's like, oh
gotcha, therefore I won't play it. But I can't emphasis emphasize this enough.
You just never have to touch that stuff. You never have to touch
that stuff, even like you have to go out of your way a little
bit to see it. But I understand people being like, but I know
it's there, and it's like it's on the menu. I'm not just going
like necessarily that, but like, but it's also the scum baggery I know
of it all is like it's not even that like Honkai Starrail. I just
don't want that kind of game to be a live service game. I want
that to be something where it's like, okay, I know, like where
the end is sure and I move on my life. I think about that
person there's a Persona mobile game, right that's very star sorry, right,
okay? Is that what that is? Okay? And it like would you
guys really want But it's like the literal Persona game coming out, yeah you
know, I mean literally x yes exactly, and that that is going to
be live service, right, and it's gonna be it's gonna be like,
well, yeah, that's interested in it, right, yeah. Yeah.
And that's the thing I have no problem because I'm like, there's just gonna
be a story there that I'm gonna play. It's a cannon persona story.
It's gonna play like persona. And like, I'm sure the story is coming
out in chapters effectively, what's gonna happen? Like, I don't know,
your heart will also harden turbo Sean, you will not be able to This
is hilarious. On any given week when I'm on this show, people go
from being like Sean is the most jaded person on earth, because why is
Sean not more shaded? It's a swing so wildt next one. I'm excited
about that. I you know, this one's a rumor for me, so
hey, take it with the greatest salt. I suppose. But I hear
that that new Astrobot game later this year, I really hope as well.
Please. I am also willing myself to get my hopes up that it will
be a full, real, real game game, which they haven't done with
astro so far, other than I guess the VR game, which also I
think that's a caveat of its own, as far as a caveat, and
I don't want a caveat anyeah, No, not at all. But Astro
Rules that you know they did, you know Astro's Playroom as a launch thing
with the PS five and so good. It's great at the museum, it's
great as a fun game. It's it's great as the speed run game where
I'm actually showing one of Mike Manatti's a speed run from Mountain Run here.
Yes, And it's like simple where there's not a ton of different mechanics,
and yet it's just so satisfying and you feel good moving around the world,
so that as a three D platformer, it just nails what it meats to
nail, and then it gives you a ton of fun stuff happening around you.
Yeah, I really like that. Man, Mike, you were twenty
first in the world when you did that one. I went by. At
one point, I wasn't the top ten the best I got and then uh,
I think by the end of it you you were, you were better
than me. You did beat me at that point, I beat you though.
That was all I cared about then. But right next name Astro's Playroom,
Playroom, Mountain Run, better than Jeff Grubb is the name of that's
very good. Uh, Metroid Prime to remaster. God, I hope so
yes, that listen, why wouldn't they do that? I just don't exactly
like, but there's a bunch of stuff, but it's time is weird specifically
because we're wondering, well, what is filling out this year and we're expecting
it to be kind of remix and remasters. Yeah, they did one remaster.
They have to be considering a second one, right for sure. I
think that we did consider it. And it's like something that I've heard was
basically ready to go. But it's Nintendo. They have things that they put
on their shelf and maybe sometimes they don't pull them down. I actually I
don't know, like what is the energy required to like pull one of these
projects down off the shelf and be like, Okay, now it's ready to
go. And when I say shelf, that's not like, oh, we've
iced the project and it's not in the works. It's like, no,
they finished it and they're waiting for the right time to put it out.
Does it like require an effort at that point or is it literally a switch
they can flip and be like now that is out. And if it's not
that, maybe sometimes they were like, oh, well we've changed our mind.
We're going to hold onto that for a little year or something like that.
Do you think that it even makes sense for them to Well, I've
talked myself into it, but I'll say it outside. I was gonna say,
does it make sense if because I don't think Metrod Prime four is coming
this year. I think it comes next year. So do you does it
make sense for them to put it out at the end of or in the
summer, like drop it in the summer, because I'm just trying to think
that, Like, I feel like you launch the switch with Metrod Prime four,
it's the switch to you with Metrod Prime four. But then I wouldn't
then put that game out in the fall and then give it three ish months,
assuming like a spring release for the switch. I think at this point
you just put it out whenever. Really the first one, Yeah, just
like fill in a gap. That's what's more about, is that there are
going to be some droughts here on the switch. Probably you gotta plug those
holes. It's right, it's a Nintendo's a whole plugging company. That's their
main that's they fill holes. Man, I forgot about this one Metal Gear
Solid Delta Snake. Yeah, what fucked me up? Is when I looked
at a list preparing for this, apparently they're saying this is twenty twenty four,
right, they did, right, there was that trailer I thought where
it just said twenty four four. I forgot about that. I just I
just have no idea what to really expect from twenty twenty four Konami. Yeah,
I like, right, they have no I have no reason to believe
that this video game is going to be good. Right, Well, that's
the thing Hill two also this year. Jesus, yes, they that's almost
one of the controversy of this game is that's going to be so much of
just the original game, new graphics. It's the original game, Unreal Engine
four, Slash five, whatever may be. Maybe that's the move if like
you don't have like a really super strong development team to like go in there
and try to reimagine things. Uh sure, then just putting that layer over
it does make sense in some ways. But like there are certain things like
like the fight with with with the end of the Sniper Guy right, like
as a PS two game, so it took place this big map, but
is three separate loading areas for that to work? Like, are they going
to be able to like change that at least, like like there must be
some things there's going to change. Where's the line going to be? I?
Yeah, I don't know. I also feel like I have gross feelings
I think about them you doing this game without Like I understand that Konami owns
smell of gear solid, but like it feels gross that they're making this game
a little bit to me. I don't know. We'll see, but Revolver
also does do cool spinny gun shit in this game. That part is pretty
good, you know. I'm looking at the strump like, yeah, this
looks good. And man, a Snake Eater is one of the best games
ever, so there's no reason why this shouldn't be good. But I still
am just like I am skeptical for some reason. All right, So that
does it for our most anticipated games that might come out. That leaves us
with a handful of games in the long shot, and I'm good in at
one of them. Yeah, who could say for me? This is Metroy
Prime four. Metry Prime four is a thing for you, Thank you.
It is a jpeg and that's it, like we've only ever seen and that
was a jpeg that got rebooted and they started development jpeg in twenty seventeen,
I think, and then they restarted development. I think it was a full
five years ago now when they restarted development, so that you know, that's
almost enough time to put out a game. Two games, almost enough time
to do that, and they haven't put out one yet. That's going to
be twice as big. That's my hope. The reason I think this makes
sense is I think it's a game. They announced the switch game, so
I think part of them is like, we have to put it out as
a switch game can be cross gym, across gin and stuff like that,
and I think it's it probably is getting pretty close to being ready, but
it's Nintendo, and I think the final point there is like, hey,
switch to long game. I get that Metroid does not play for them in
that way. I don't think that doesn't mean it can't do like do something
for him, but Metroy just doesn't sell in the way they would want it
to, I think. But you know, but it's like as like a
one two because what because Mario came out Zelda launched with it, right,
and then Mario came out a couple of weeks later. No, it came
out a good deal later by the year the end of the year, so
it's like six months. Yeah, but this doesn't need to be the launch
game. That's going to be the Mario game. I still think you having
a Metro Prime four is a very good thing for your launch lineup. And
I think that takes you a lot. Yeah, you know, you know,
no, no, no, why why? Why? Why is it
a good launch game because people like Metroid and people like Metroid Oh my god,
oh just go to the game doesn't sell more than five million copies,
it doesn't matter, don't more in two million copies, Michael, it will
sell two million copies, and that's good. Yeah. So I think for
Nintendo, the way they would look at it is the last time they did
that. Now, to be fair, it was Metroy Prime Hunters. The
last time they did that it was the DS, and that was a kind
of a little bit of a tough launch for them where it wasn't his power
popular right away and Metroy didn't do him any favors when they launched that device.
So I think I thought that DS had a good launch the three D
had. The three D had a disastrous launch, but I think the DS
had a slow start. No, Nintendo always does. They always have light
launches. It's like the Switch did not have a good launch at a good
launch year. There was no Metroid launch game in the DS. It came
with the demo for Metro Hunters come out there. It was a year later,
a year later, year later. Jeezus, okay, so I am
thinking of the demo then launched. I played that demo a lot. Yeah,
I played the demo so much that it did feel like the game to
me. Yes, I guess My point is like, yeah, not,
you know, you need launch games that aren't just the ones that are going
to solve twenty million copies, right like, otherwise they would just release Mario
and nothing else. You do have to have other marquee things you have.
But that's historically what they do, is my point. I mean, there
are other things in that launch window, like an arms or you know,
Mario Kart. Obviously that is a very big deal. Well, I guess
what are you defined as launched? They launch their clips or things. But
yeah, even literally the launch of the system, there are other things than
just one big game usually. But yeah, I'm just saying I don't say
there's a big marquee game, but I don't think it's good. I don't
think it launches with the system because I just don't think that makes sense for
how they see Metrod. But you know, we love Metrod all, we
all love metroight, it's phenomenal series. Nintendo doesn't give a flying fuck about
Metrod at all whatsoever, and so I think they but they know that they
are aware that They're like, yeah, whatever, it's this little thing,
and so I do think they're going to maximize it, which is why I'm
like, it doesn't have it to do anything with the switch to. And
obviously this is just speculation, But when it is speculation, I think you
need to look at patterns, and the pattern is that they would release this
on the switch one and then maybe there's an up day later, because we
all know how they're handling switch games on switch to. But we already have
a relatively recent example of this with Sam's Returns three DS game in the launch
year of the switch I just I don't see them changing their plans, which,
as we know, is what we know right now is this is a
switch one game. We don't know anything. To the contrary, I just
don't see them deviating and adding more work if necessary to get run. The
difference there is if it's not ready. If it's not ready and it's like
it's going to take a full other year of development, then I think they
would probably be like, okay, let's put I mean, I know with
Sam's Returns that they put it on the three DS despite the switch being right
there. But I think they also learned some lessons from those games where like
those games, the games in that window, and that's why I'm out about
the patterns. But ultimately this is one this game Devil's Advocate. We don't
know how this game releases. This game could be vapor aware, but you
know, just we is such a big question mark of what the switch to
is going to be and how they handle backwards compatibility. So I don't know,
We'll say, I guess I will see. Metro four is kind of
being like the Red Steel, Right, They're gonna one have one game that's
like, yeah, look, also our system is pretty or the Metroid Prime
three even right, because metroy Prime three did launch and it's not pure launch.
It was launch window on the seven. Yeah, so liked it was
it was like or was it eight? Yeah, it was like a year
or two later it was a decent amount later, it wasn't. From that
perspective though, Mike, wouldn't you then put out I think Sean is convinced
me because wouldn't you even put out, uh, the Metroid Prime two remaster
and have that be as shiny and glossy as possible? No, because you
could have put that much into the metroc Prime. Yeah, Metro Prime three
are probably gonna be a little bit less glossy Prime one. From the little
we've heard about that run, it's gonna be a lot simpler than it came
out like a year later. It was like August two thousand and seven.
Yeah, Metroprimeter. So I don't run. I mean, honestly, it's
not even necessarily about it being a launcht or not for to switch. It
is just but I do think it's a switch to game. That's it.
Thanks, And things could just work out that way for sure, but maybe
maybe still switch this year. I listen, that was their big game this
holiday. I think that makes a ton of sense. I actually think that
makes the most sense more than having it be a switch to launch game,
which I know that's the main point you disagree round, Yeah, all right,
we're crossing that one off Final Fantasy nine remake. Do you think there's
a chance that comes out this year? Probably not, Probably not a long
shot, very charity do a Final Fantasy this year, something that's never stopped
him before, and we're getting an expanse for fourteen. Yeah, lots of
Final Fantasies already, but you know there's I guess the the reason I have
some hope is because Yoship, when talking about Dontreu and all the Fantasy nine
reps, is being like, there's a reason for that that I can't say,
and I think maybe that's being overblown. The reason could just be because
of some plot point in that expansion, but maybe it's because the fan Fantasy
nine remake is much sooner than we're expecting. Who knows? And then,
what does that look like to you? Final Fantasy nine remake? How ambitious
I think it's about. I think it's probably more like what I am expecting
for say, Mettle Gear Solid Delta. I think it is more than graphical
update with some nice quality of life stuff and hopefully some things expanded. One
of the problems with nine is that a lot of the kind of party members'
plot lines get really diminished and they don't have a whole lot to do,
as the last half or even third of the game really just becomes super zedane
focused. So that would be nice, But I don't think it's not gonna
be like remake or seven remake right where it's like a different combat engine.
They took like the first city of the game, it turned that into a
game all its own. No, it won't be like that. This will
be one. It'll be like Crisis Core. It'll be like that Crisis Core.
Be more than that. It'll be a lot more than that it was.
How would it be more that Christis Carey make is just like everything all
the graphic assets are swapped out. It'll be that's more like Persona three reload
where they actually add stuff and even then, like, yeah, they updated
the graphics. Game, it's not like they made it look like PHAs seven
rebirth right. They made it a game that's gonna run the switch sus glows.
It was pretty close to remake. Its pretty good. Yeah, like
literally uses some models and stuff. Facy nine remake will run on Switch one.
How about that? Yeah, I mean that switch to exclusive. He's
saying it title launch title, I've got to you, guys are not ready
for the glitting. I'm gonna we will never be able to prepare myself for
that. All right? And then finally someone wrote down here Ridge Racer.
Yeah, I mean, I know used to not have any hope for this,
But Jeff, you've been doing You've been talking about this so much and
been doing so much research into what's going on with the future of Ridge Racer.
Maybe you could tell us right now if we should bump this up to
game that might be coming out instead of anticipated long Shot. I think long
Shot is the right category four. And that's the reason one of the reasons
I'm so tired. Clearly, I'm in a parking garages meeting with sources,
a lot of deep throats who are out there finding out about Ridge Racer farming.
Don't you worry about about that? The Ridge Racer deep throats are very
informative. Listen, when I have something to say, you will be the
first to know. Okay, I appreciate that. Yeah, of course,
all right, anything else any games that we forgot? Chat you want to
throw anything else out while we start wrapping up. But I guess then overall,
like, how are y'all feeling about the end of the year because right
with this list, I'm like, that's decent. That's enough for me.
Yeah, it should be fine. The first part of this year has been
so crazy already legitimately and actually that like I feel like it'll whatever comes out
like that Eldering DLC. We didn't even talk about that. Yeah, which
Vengeance. Yeah, there's still there's still so much stuff. I think it
will continue to be a good year for video games coming out but not getting
made, you know. Yea and Chronicles is happening. Sure, that's creed
read probably this fall. I think it's one of those financial quarter things,
so it might be early twenty five. Also not sure. Sure, I
don't know what to expect from Home World three. I wonder they're like going
to come back and like it's going to be like great or if it's like
a disappointment, doesn't hit like it used to. I don't know. Yep,
it could go either way for me. I really don't know as well.
And then of course it's a dragon Ball sparking zero. It's all anyone's
talking about. Time for another Mario party, nah, probably in a world
where they released four of them for the GameCube over of course of yeah,
but we're not in that anymore, not in that world anymore. We're in
the world where they were released one game per franchise. But then they did
they had the retro throwback one, which I forgot about. Yeah, the
Switch is such a long lifespan that theorecically they could, yeah, just pop
one of those out later in the year. That probably won't be as good
as Superstars, all right, I think with that in mind, it's time
to wrap this up. I can probably hit that button. But hey,
any plants for the weekend? Anyone have anything fun happening now? Yes,
that I had to begin the show, we ignored you. Then well,
I'm moving, so not fun in the weekend. But I am moving.
Oh where are you moving? My address? Can you give us your security
security numbers numbers here? Nine? Eight? Yeah, No, I am
moving. So that's that's exciting? Or is it because I hate moving?
I had owned an anything amped to be moving dreading the move. I haven't
seen the totality of the things that I own since November of twenty twenty two,
so like because it's just been in a storage cube that is going to
get dropped off at my new place. So I'm like, I just ken't
p're moving to Ohio with us? Fine, I know, I'm really yeah,
I'm excited to be in the path of totality. That's gonna be sure
that Hello. All right, well you all keep living in your own path
of totality. We're gonna get out of here. More giant bomb stuff on
the website, on YouTube, we'll have plenty of stuff next week. Look
out for them. Until then, they'll everyone have a good one, take
care of yourself. Goodbye to Japan. The Pertectant

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