BIGFOOT SAVED MY LIFE ON THE GREEN RIVER IN KENTUCKY | FEMALE SASQUATCH ENCOUNTER

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, and welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. Tonight's episode
<v Speaker 1>takes us deep into Kentucky along the banks of the
<v Speaker 1>Green River, where a young boy named Ray Howard experienced
<v Speaker 1>something that would stay with him for the rest of
<v Speaker 1>his life. Growing up on his grandparents' farm, Ray began
<v Speaker 1>noticing a massive bipedal creature moving through the tree line, silent, fast,
<v Speaker 1>and unlike anything he could explain. But what started as
<v Speaker 1>distant sightings quickly turned into something far more personal. In
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five, after being thrown from a horse and
<v Speaker 1>left injured in a brier thicket, Ray came face to
<v Speaker 1>face with what he believes was a female sasquatch. This
<v Speaker 1>is truly a phenomenal story and one of many where
<v Speaker 1>people claim to have been saved by a sasquatch. Ray
<v Speaker 1>previously shared his bigfoot encounter on The Bigfoot Society and
<v Speaker 1>you guys should totally check it out. But he claims
<v Speaker 1>that he shared more information on my podcast and a
<v Speaker 1>lot more detail, so you won't be getting the same
<v Speaker 1>story twice, and there is a twist at the end
<v Speaker 1>that he's never shared with anyone before. If you have
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot encounter, that you would like to get off
<v Speaker 1>your chest. Feel free to reach out sometime at Sasquatch
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<v Speaker 1>today for additional content. It really helps support the channel
<v Speaker 1>and the research being done out in the field. With
<v Speaker 1>all that being said, let's dive straight into this amazing
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot encounter from the state of Kentucky. All right, Ray,
<v Speaker 1>welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>Doing good, Miguil. Thank you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an absolute pleasure to have you on the
<v Speaker 1>show today. Ray, If you would tell me a little
<v Speaker 1>bit about yourself, where you're from, and your experiences from
<v Speaker 1>the very beginning.
<v Speaker 2>Please, Well, Miguil, thank you so much for having me
<v Speaker 2>on your show. I appreciate it very much. And I
<v Speaker 2>say to God be the glory for this, and may
<v Speaker 2>He just bless this show, and may He bless that
<v Speaker 2>your work that continues to keep going forward and all
<v Speaker 2>that you have. My name is Ray Howard. I'm fifty,
<v Speaker 2>will be fifty eight years old this next month, and
<v Speaker 2>I was born in Detroit, Michigan. At the age of four,
<v Speaker 2>I was sent by my parents because of a situation
<v Speaker 2>that had happened in Detroit for my safety sent me
<v Speaker 2>to Zion, Kentucky. And up Baron Zion Hebbersville, Kentucky. Many
<v Speaker 2>of you that may not know what that place is
<v Speaker 2>or have heard of it. If you've ever heard of
<v Speaker 2>Barton Nunley talking about the Spotsville Monster, now that's a
<v Speaker 2>very well known and famous place. I was right across
<v Speaker 2>the river from him. Now for the backstory, I did
<v Speaker 2>not know Barton Unley back in them days. But the
<v Speaker 2>strangest thing, Barton on Ley and his family had their
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot experience and all that went on, which sounded like
<v Speaker 2>it was very horrifying back in nineteen seventy five. In
<v Speaker 2>that same year is when I had my experience. I
<v Speaker 2>had not talked to bart and Onley and them up
<v Speaker 2>until this last year, which it was really something to
<v Speaker 2>share those stories back and and he said he wished
<v Speaker 2>he had known all these years that someone was across
<v Speaker 2>the river that had had those because it would have
<v Speaker 2>strengthened their story because there was so much doubt and unbelief.
<v Speaker 2>And this is why I really do do these interviews,
<v Speaker 2>is because people really need to hear the truth. I've
<v Speaker 2>always said that if somebody has the need for attention
<v Speaker 2>or something and just gets on something like this and
<v Speaker 2>makes up something. I just totally lose respect for people
<v Speaker 2>like that. I think they should find something in life
<v Speaker 2>to fill that area. But this story, I will reish
<v Speaker 2>to assure you and promise you that every tidbit of
<v Speaker 2>it is the one hundred percent truth, and I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to lay it out there to you. So I lived
<v Speaker 2>with my grandparents starting at the age of four, and
<v Speaker 2>we were there on the farm. We lived right across
<v Speaker 2>from the Green River. My bedroom was in the front,
<v Speaker 2>the front room which faced the road, and right there
<v Speaker 2>at the road, when you look across the road there
<v Speaker 2>was a green river. I could lay in my front
<v Speaker 2>bed and I could see the river barges coming down
<v Speaker 2>the river. That's how close we were. There was any
<v Speaker 2>times that when the leaves on the trees wasn't so
<v Speaker 2>thick and they were falling off, that the people on
<v Speaker 2>the barge coming down the river. There, the boat captains
<v Speaker 2>would see me in the window. This is how close
<v Speaker 2>I was to the Green River, and I could I
<v Speaker 2>could grab my hand, stick it in the air and
<v Speaker 2>pull down, meaning blow your horn on your boat. And
<v Speaker 2>they would do that and it was just so neat.
<v Speaker 2>But down in that area, every once in a while
<v Speaker 2>I would see something huge, something dark, and it was bipedal.
<v Speaker 2>And at that point that there, that was a distance
<v Speaker 2>for me. But what I did see is probably the
<v Speaker 2>limit of that. But let me tell you this, whatever
<v Speaker 2>that was, it wasn't no ape. And this thing it
<v Speaker 2>walked faster than any human I had ever seen in
<v Speaker 2>my entire life. Now, this sort of, this sort of
<v Speaker 2>was the start of some of the things I started
<v Speaker 2>to see concerning sasquatch, But the real experience that I
<v Speaker 2>had Miguel was beingyond anything I've ever heard or seen. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I want to say this to you. We were so country.
<v Speaker 2>We were we were farmers and et cetera. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>my grandpa still had a still had a job, and
<v Speaker 2>damn co're right there in Henderson, Kentucky. He was the
<v Speaker 2>head forming there but he still did farming. Back there
<v Speaker 2>we were at with all the acreage. And one day,
<v Speaker 2>it was a weekend, was on a Saturday, back in
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy five, in and up and around the month
<v Speaker 2>of August. I've never forgot. My grandfather had lots of
<v Speaker 2>farm animals. He raised pigs, he raised cattle, chickens, had
<v Speaker 2>had some dogs. We had pretty much what the normal
<v Speaker 2>farm would have, and he had a few horses. Well,
<v Speaker 2>one day, I remember, and this was when I was
<v Speaker 2>seven years old, so, like I said, that was back
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy five, there came a horse trailer unknown
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen it before, come riding in and to
<v Speaker 2>the farm. And of course, me being a kid, I
<v Speaker 2>come out running out of the house and right up
<v Speaker 2>to see what was going on. And of course I
<v Speaker 2>could because of the horse trailer. It made. Some of
<v Speaker 2>them are clothes closed and some of them are open,
<v Speaker 2>and this one was opening, and I was able to
<v Speaker 2>look through and see this very beautiful palamino looking horse.
<v Speaker 2>And my grandfather came out, and my grandmother and my.
<v Speaker 3>Uncle, and they talked to the guy and they had
<v Speaker 3>a little small talk, and the next thing I know,
<v Speaker 3>there was a cash transaction and then they unloaded the horse.
<v Speaker 2>And so my grandfather and them went and got some
<v Speaker 2>horse brushes and some apples, and they decided to brushing
<v Speaker 2>and to make friends with him basically, and started cutting
<v Speaker 2>some apples into We had these big, huge granny apples,
<v Speaker 2>and they was cutting these apples and they was feeding
<v Speaker 2>the horse. Well, I've really wanted to ride this horse,
<v Speaker 2>and I mean I did everything that I could do
<v Speaker 2>to talk to my grandfather and to set me up
<v Speaker 2>on the horse. He said, I don't know about riding.
<v Speaker 2>He says, because he says, we know from the owner.
<v Speaker 2>He's very, very friendly and there's no problems with him.
<v Speaker 2>But he says, I'm not going to let you riding,
<v Speaker 2>but I'll let you set on him while we're here
<v Speaker 2>around him. So okay, that's good enough for me. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I sitting up on the back of him, and I
<v Speaker 2>had a hold of his hair, and I was talking
<v Speaker 2>to my grandfather and them. And then there was a
<v Speaker 2>neighbor that we had and it didn't bother me tell
<v Speaker 2>the first name. He's dead long time ago, but his name.
<v Speaker 2>They went by the name of Riddle. That was their
<v Speaker 2>last name, and that's what we caught him. Actually called
<v Speaker 2>him mister Riddle. Back then, I'd say he's sixty or
<v Speaker 2>any seventies. He happened to be coming down the road
<v Speaker 2>earlier in the day. He had an old red Ford
<v Speaker 2>pickup truck, one of the very older ones, almost looked
<v Speaker 2>like the old Sanford and Son type of truck. It
<v Speaker 2>was so old, and it had died right in front
<v Speaker 2>of our house out there, Like I told you'd be
<v Speaker 2>in between the Green River there and the house that
<v Speaker 2>we were in. And so what's sitting there, Well, just
<v Speaker 2>so happened to be by the time he went down
<v Speaker 2>the road and got his sons to come back to
<v Speaker 2>help him try to get this thing going. That was
<v Speaker 2>about the time I was setting up on this old horse.
<v Speaker 2>Well they went to start. I don't know they were
<v Speaker 2>playing with the carburetor or something out there, at least
<v Speaker 2>that's what my grandfather told me. Is I was too
<v Speaker 2>young to understand that stuff. And one the thing they
<v Speaker 2>did was they overflooded the carburetor, as the old carburetor.
<v Speaker 2>When they did, they wouldn't to start this thing, And
<v Speaker 2>I mean it gave out one of the loudest backfires
<v Speaker 2>you had ever heard in your entire life. It sounded
<v Speaker 2>like a double barrel shotgun being shot all at once.
<v Speaker 2>It sounded like it was one your single barrel. It
<v Speaker 2>was that loud. When this happened, megil this horse. Thank god,
<v Speaker 2>he reared just a little bit. He's front feet, not
<v Speaker 2>enough to throw me out. I held on to his
<v Speaker 2>hair there. But he took off running broke loose from
<v Speaker 2>my grandfather, my uncle, and my grandmother took off. Now
<v Speaker 2>my grandfather had back there, he had thirty three acres
<v Speaker 2>of land. This horse took off running at a full speed. Miguel,
<v Speaker 2>I have never been so scared in all of my life.
<v Speaker 2>I had only been babied when it come to horses
<v Speaker 2>in the past. And the grandfather was very limited. He
<v Speaker 2>was very protective and he never would let me ride
<v Speaker 2>a horse by myself. He would always put me up
<v Speaker 2>on it and then lead it by the by the
<v Speaker 2>leash there and just you know, take me for a
<v Speaker 2>walk and bring me back. But this was something too. Oh,
<v Speaker 2>my fear went through me like I had never felt
<v Speaker 2>in my life. This horse took off back towards that
<v Speaker 2>back acreage of the thirty three acres, and back in
<v Speaker 2>there in that place there's a there's a big pond.
<v Speaker 2>It was a man made pond. My grandfather had dug
<v Speaker 2>out with a back hole, and he stacked it full
<v Speaker 2>of catfish, big big catfish. Actually, what he did was
<v Speaker 2>he was catching a fish out of the Green River
<v Speaker 2>upfront and was putting them back there. And he had
<v Speaker 2>a lot of nice fish. Well, we come running past
<v Speaker 2>this this pond here. Well, right when you get past
<v Speaker 2>the pond was the end of the thirty three acres
<v Speaker 2>and there was a huge barbed wire, the old old
<v Speaker 2>barbed wire, friends, where it was like three strands, one top,
<v Speaker 2>one a middle on the bottom. And this horse ran
<v Speaker 2>until that barbed wire fence ended, and he come at
<v Speaker 2>a halt like nothing you'd ever seen, best breaks you
<v Speaker 2>ever seen on anything. But the problem was we were
<v Speaker 2>running at such a speed and then he come to
<v Speaker 2>a stop, so click he threw me and I went
<v Speaker 2>straight over this fence, and Miguel, there was the biggest
<v Speaker 2>briar bush or sticker bush wherever you want on the
<v Speaker 2>other side waiting for me. When that horse throwed me,
<v Speaker 2>I went straight into that briar bush. I was just
<v Speaker 2>tore up. I was crying, and it was miserable. I
<v Speaker 2>was scared from the thing with the horse and what
<v Speaker 2>had happened from it taking off, and then from just everything.
<v Speaker 2>I was just literally traumatized. Well, in the middle of them,
<v Speaker 2>I remembered I was setting. I wasn't standing. I was setting.
<v Speaker 2>After I'd loosened myself just a little bit where the
<v Speaker 2>stickers weren't sticking in me, but yet I was still
<v Speaker 2>had them surrounding me. But I was just sitting there
<v Speaker 2>and setting position and crying. I had noticed on the
<v Speaker 2>other side that fence where I was at, but there
<v Speaker 2>was a small tree line. This was not a thick
<v Speaker 2>patch of woods. It was just a small patch, and
<v Speaker 2>on the tree line of it, I started noticing when
<v Speaker 2>I looked back, this very very tall creature. Again, as
<v Speaker 2>I had spoken the beginning of this interview here, it
<v Speaker 2>was just like the one I had seen bipedal that
<v Speaker 2>was down on the Green River, and that thing back then,
<v Speaker 2>I think was looking for fish. I don't know, maybe
<v Speaker 2>deer or something. But this thing was honting when I
<v Speaker 2>seen it. I know it was. I seen a couple
<v Speaker 2>of times where it had something in its hands, since
<v Speaker 2>I assumed it might have been a dead adem or
<v Speaker 2>had I don't know, But this one come up out
<v Speaker 2>of this tree line and it started walking towards me. Again,
<v Speaker 2>we didn't even own a TV, so I couldn't have
<v Speaker 2>told you what a bigfoot was. I could tell you
<v Speaker 2>everything at the age of seven about what that thing
<v Speaker 2>looked like with detail, but I had never seen anything
<v Speaker 2>like this other than me telling you what I'd seen
<v Speaker 2>in distance, but seeing something like this up close, it's
<v Speaker 2>a whole different story. Well, this thing kept walking and
<v Speaker 2>it was quick. It heard me crying. Come. It didn't
<v Speaker 2>come running, but he'd come at a stride. You co
<v Speaker 2>might as well considered it running. The closer it got,
<v Speaker 2>I've realized this was a female because of the breast.
<v Speaker 2>This thing was about seven foot tall. It'd have been
<v Speaker 2>could have been eight, but I'd said it had been
<v Speaker 2>more around the seven seven and a half at the best.
<v Speaker 2>And how do I size that. I'm gonna tell you
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. A lot of people that knew anything about
<v Speaker 2>the wrestling world that knew Andre the Giant. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever heard of him or remembered him,
<v Speaker 2>but when I was a kid, I got a very
<v Speaker 2>big blessing from the family and Evansville, Indiana. I got
<v Speaker 2>me a special ride and got to go to the
<v Speaker 2>Evansville Coliseum and was able to meet Andrea the Giant.
<v Speaker 2>And for many of you that don't remember him or
<v Speaker 2>remember much about him, he was one of the group
<v Speaker 2>the biggest in the world still today, but back then
<v Speaker 2>and evans won. He bent down on both knees. He
<v Speaker 2>put four children on one arm, let him set on
<v Speaker 2>his arm in his hand, put four children on the other,
<v Speaker 2>and then he stood up in the air and he
<v Speaker 2>lifted all eight of them up. One of those children
<v Speaker 2>were me. I got one of the biggest birthday wishes
<v Speaker 2>and blessings you had ever seen in your life. Now,
<v Speaker 2>anybody knows the height of ander, he knows it was
<v Speaker 2>like seven foot seven foot something. That was the exact
<v Speaker 2>heighth that this creature stood. This is how I knew
<v Speaker 2>the size. I didn't know it by any other way.
<v Speaker 2>And this female, she was more reddish in color in
<v Speaker 2>the front part of her. The backside her was jet black.
<v Speaker 2>You could tell right around in the shoulder looking area
<v Speaker 2>coming around to the front is kind of where the
<v Speaker 2>red started. And then it just got real red in
<v Speaker 2>the front. I'll try to be careful with this part.
<v Speaker 2>Here the breast were sagging and she had some gray
<v Speaker 2>in her hair. This is how I could tell this
<v Speaker 2>was an older bigfoot. Didn't really have a neck, I
<v Speaker 2>mean the shoulders in the neck kind of sort of
<v Speaker 2>that was it. You could tell. She couldn't really twist
<v Speaker 2>her head back and forth like a normal person. The face.
<v Speaker 2>I can only describe this this way. This this thing
<v Speaker 2>had a leathery looking type of face, but human. It
<v Speaker 2>was as about as human looking as anything you could
<v Speaker 2>ever imagine, even your regular apes that you see on
<v Speaker 2>TV and all you could, you know, depending on the
<v Speaker 2>person that's telling the story of what they see and
<v Speaker 2>what they think. But I can tell you I've been
<v Speaker 2>the mini zoos. This thing had more of a human,
<v Speaker 2>humanistic look than anything I'd ever seen. Now, the nose
<v Speaker 2>would have been the only thing that could have given
<v Speaker 2>away the apish part when it comes to this. The
<v Speaker 2>noose was just a little flared out, but the rest
<v Speaker 2>of it, it had this huge forehead and it had
<v Speaker 2>that conic I think this is the right word, conical
<v Speaker 2>or conical look on the head. But the eyes were
<v Speaker 2>very deep set back into the head. She came up,
<v Speaker 2>stood about five foot in front of me. She squatted down,
<v Speaker 2>put both hands out as if to say, it's okay,
<v Speaker 2>I want to help you. She did say that I
<v Speaker 2>want to help you. She just you could tell it's
<v Speaker 2>okay by her gestures. Now, Miguel, this is where it
<v Speaker 2>gets interesting. From that day, I noticed something very strange,
<v Speaker 2>and I'll get more back into the story. But when
<v Speaker 2>she did that gesture, the strangest thing I'd ever seen
<v Speaker 2>from my young seven year old age happened to me
<v Speaker 2>that day. I could, I could literally hear this bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>speak to me in my head. And when she spoke,
<v Speaker 2>she says, don't be afraid. She says, I'm not here
<v Speaker 2>to hurt you. I only want to help you get
<v Speaker 2>out of this place that you're in over here. And
<v Speaker 2>I had such a piece that came over me that
<v Speaker 2>I don't there's just no way to explain this. Now,
<v Speaker 2>as I've gotten older, I've thought about this story, I
<v Speaker 2>bet almost every day, and another reason to come on
<v Speaker 2>the podcast and to tell the story. I got to
<v Speaker 2>be honest, it's therapeutic because this type of a thing
<v Speaker 2>doesn't just go away. It sticks with you for life,
<v Speaker 2>in mark you and you can't forget it. Now. Was
<v Speaker 2>my experience traumatizing with the bigfoot, No, but everything that
<v Speaker 2>led up to it, and the experience there was trauma
<v Speaker 2>leading to it. That what got me in that place.
<v Speaker 2>But the shock of my life meeting that bigfoot. It's
<v Speaker 2>like sometimes you just feel like there's days you just
<v Speaker 2>got to get this out of you and it just
<v Speaker 2>builds up. And this is why coming on the podcast helps.
<v Speaker 2>It's therapeutic to me, and it's very very good for
<v Speaker 2>people to know the truth of what we really have
<v Speaker 2>out there. Well, back to what I was telling you there,
<v Speaker 2>I heard her literally inside in my head. And I've
<v Speaker 2>heard stories before, but didn't never know this until I
<v Speaker 2>got probably at the age of fifty five, that I've
<v Speaker 2>heard that other people had that sort of same experience,
<v Speaker 2>that they could hear these things talk in their head.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've heard a ton of stories like that,
<v Speaker 2>but i've heard them. Well, she basically just told me
<v Speaker 2>it's okay. You know, I'm assuring you I'm not here
<v Speaker 2>to hurt you. I just want to help you come
<v Speaker 2>out of that place that you're in, meaning that middle
<v Speaker 2>of that sticker bush. Well, she kept in that position
<v Speaker 2>with her hands open as if to say, you know,
<v Speaker 2>let me, let me help you. But Miguel, even though
<v Speaker 2>I had peace, even though I felt she was safe,
<v Speaker 2>I still refused to put my hands out and allow
<v Speaker 2>her to pull me out of the bush. But I
<v Speaker 2>did have a very long look. I would say my
<v Speaker 2>experience with her before the departure, I'd say I had
<v Speaker 2>a good solid five to seven minutes to look at
<v Speaker 2>her and to listen to whatever thoughts came through. And
<v Speaker 2>I mean that it was for seven years old and here,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like I said, get me return fifty eight.
<v Speaker 2>You would think that that time of your life, in
<v Speaker 2>between then and now, in all these years, fifty something
<v Speaker 2>years has passed, you would think that, well, you've done
<v Speaker 2>forgot about this. Some are some of us by now. No, sir,
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you something. If you ever ever meet
<v Speaker 2>something like that face to face, I don't care how
<v Speaker 2>old you are, you will never never forget that thing.
<v Speaker 2>Never the the huge, this thing being so huge, so
<v Speaker 2>different than anything that us as humans have ever seen
<v Speaker 2>or experienced. It just marks you. You can't forget it.
<v Speaker 2>It stays with you and it will never leave you.
<v Speaker 2>I remember taking time and just listening, and I had
<v Speaker 2>actually stopped crying when I heard those thoughts. That's when
<v Speaker 2>the peace came in. And man, I'm not even crying
<v Speaker 2>no more. I thought about that. I thought about that
<v Speaker 2>at that very moment, I'm not crying no more. And
<v Speaker 2>the next thing I had, oh in the feet, the feet,
<v Speaker 2>that was the weirdest looking feet I'd ever seen it
<v Speaker 2>in my life, the big toe and then you got
<v Speaker 2>your other four toes over the left there. The big
<v Speaker 2>toe was very very separated, there was a lot of distance,
<v Speaker 2>and it was very funny shape. But however, it did
<v Speaker 2>take away from you know the fact that when you
<v Speaker 2>see some of these footprints and stuff that people show
<v Speaker 2>and make prints of it, one hundred percent went with
<v Speaker 2>one of those. But the shape of those feet just
<v Speaker 2>was something you never forget. I'm just trying to think
<v Speaker 2>if there's there's some details I might have missed here.
<v Speaker 2>The hands, I mean were huge, huge, So around that
<v Speaker 2>time I heard two people yelling my name, now, mind
<v Speaker 2>you back there on the farm, back at the house
<v Speaker 2>and where our corn crib was. The when that horse
<v Speaker 2>took off, he had way, way, way a head start,
<v Speaker 2>and my grandfather and my uncle had from that point
<v Speaker 2>the only way they could get to me was because
<v Speaker 2>there was no vehicle that would have made it back
<v Speaker 2>through this terrain or not back then, because they didn't
<v Speaker 2>have what you call four wheelers and all that stuff then,
<v Speaker 2>I mean them things might have been existed, but I'm
<v Speaker 2>saying my grandparents didn't have them, and they had to
<v Speaker 2>go into the barn and unhook the other horses and
<v Speaker 2>saddle them quickly and get on them and get down
<v Speaker 2>the field so they could find me. Well, Like I said,
<v Speaker 2>that's between that five and seven minute frame that I
<v Speaker 2>had of setting with this bigfoot, and never once what
<v Speaker 2>she intimidating, Never once did she move quickly or tried
<v Speaker 2>to scare me. I want to say this, When I
<v Speaker 2>looked into this animal or this creature's eyes, I see
<v Speaker 2>nothing but intelligence. And brother, I am not kidding you.
<v Speaker 2>Still to this day, I have, still to this day
<v Speaker 2>can tell you I can see people and I have
<v Speaker 2>a very very profound discernment. I can usually read a
<v Speaker 2>person within minutes. I can usually tell you a lot
<v Speaker 2>about what they've been through and what they're going through
<v Speaker 2>at the moment. And that's how profound God's given me
<v Speaker 2>for a discernment. And by looking into that animal's eyes,
<v Speaker 2>this thing had an intelligence that went way beyond the normal.
<v Speaker 2>This was not an animal intelligence. This I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what you would call it, but this was an intelligence
<v Speaker 2>that even went beyond what us as humans have in
<v Speaker 2>areas very very you could have you could see had
<v Speaker 2>a very great This the instinct this animal had was
<v Speaker 2>great and before my grandfather and my uncle before I
<v Speaker 2>heard their name. I mean I heard them calling my name. Sorry,
<v Speaker 2>before they could I could hear them. I watched him
<v Speaker 2>paid attention to one thing. I've seen her nose. She
<v Speaker 2>started sniffing, and I've seen her nose open and close
<v Speaker 2>now and then I've seen her move her whole body
<v Speaker 2>a little bit to the left and then just slightly
<v Speaker 2>to the right, and I thought, I wonder what she's doing.
<v Speaker 2>What she was doing, brother, she had sniffed them out
<v Speaker 2>before they got to us, before they ever yelled my name,
<v Speaker 2>she had already smelled them. This is what I know
<v Speaker 2>I paid close attention to because right after she did that,
<v Speaker 2>it couldn't have been thirty seconds. This is when I
<v Speaker 2>heard my grandfather and uncle yell my name. They started
<v Speaker 2>coming down the field. They were at a pretty good distance.
<v Speaker 2>About her first time the yell. Well, instinctively, she knew
<v Speaker 2>that her time was limited. I personally will say this
<v Speaker 2>to you. If this animal had had any reason whatsoever
<v Speaker 2>to have wanted to hurt me or had any sort
<v Speaker 2>of bad intention, trust me, she would have snatched me
<v Speaker 2>up without my consent and had done being gone in
<v Speaker 2>that seven minutes but that is not what happened. When
<v Speaker 2>she heard them yell my name. After smelling them, she
<v Speaker 2>gently stood up, and boy was she was huge. And
<v Speaker 2>then she started to walk back towards the tree line.
<v Speaker 2>And to me again, I'll repeat that what we consider
<v Speaker 2>walking is running to them. I mean not running to them,
<v Speaker 2>running to us, but walking to them. And I'm mean
<v Speaker 2>she did not. She did not take no time to
<v Speaker 2>get from point A to point and being well, this
<v Speaker 2>is what she did me gil, she walked back to
<v Speaker 2>that same tree line as to where she came out of.
<v Speaker 2>And she stood behind these two bigger trees and was
<v Speaker 2>looking out and watching me, watching over me. By that time, mh,
<v Speaker 2>I'd say, probably within a minute or so, my grandfathered
<v Speaker 2>my uncle had came the way. They knew basically where
<v Speaker 2>I was. This was a weird thing, but it did.
<v Speaker 2>It was true that horse that had carried me that
<v Speaker 2>far and that it throwed me for some reason, did
<v Speaker 2>not leave that area. Now, mind you, She walked a
<v Speaker 2>little bit down the way of the fence. When the
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot showed up. I think she smelled that and she
<v Speaker 2>didn't she didn't like that. But she didn't go far though,
<v Speaker 2>And again I don't know if the horse and didn't.
<v Speaker 2>I've heard they run and everything of her cattle and
<v Speaker 2>everything when these bigfoots show up, or they just scattered.
<v Speaker 2>But this this this horse only walked just enough to
<v Speaker 2>basically feel like she or he was safe. But he didn't,
<v Speaker 2>he didn't take off at a very long distance. Now,
<v Speaker 2>when the bigfoot went back and got behind the trees,
<v Speaker 2>this horse started edge a little bit back an almost
<v Speaker 2>dead center to where I was. I've never I can't
<v Speaker 2>explain these things. I can don't tell you this. That
<v Speaker 2>day I learned more about the instinct of animals, bigfoots,
<v Speaker 2>and everything that I'd ever learned in my life. But
<v Speaker 2>this animal came back and stood almost dead center, as
<v Speaker 2>if she was there showing my grandfather and my uncle,
<v Speaker 2>he's right here, just follow me. Well, when they got
<v Speaker 2>up there, they knew exactly where I was. They got
<v Speaker 2>off those horses, come running, had to climb the fence.
<v Speaker 2>My grandfather I wouldn't have believed that, but my grandfather
<v Speaker 2>climbed this fence and got over it before my young uncle,
<v Speaker 2>and he found me, pulled me up out of those bushes,
<v Speaker 2>and he throwed me over his shoulder and he was
<v Speaker 2>scared to death and crying. I've never I had never
<v Speaker 2>in all of the years of my life, and now
<v Speaker 2>I'm not speaking bad of my grandfather here on this,
<v Speaker 2>but I had never in all the days of my
<v Speaker 2>life seen my grandfather show a tear, not even with
<v Speaker 2>the death of people. But that day I seen for
<v Speaker 2>the first and it was the last time I had
<v Speaker 2>seen a tear ever come out of his face. Now,
<v Speaker 2>he was an old mountain man from the mountains of Hazzard, Kentucky,
<v Speaker 2>and anybody knows anything about that. Those were not type
<v Speaker 2>people you messed with. They set up on the porches
<v Speaker 2>with shotguns, and they didn't put up with no foolishness.
<v Speaker 2>Anybody come wrong that I want to give a mess
<v Speaker 2>that they were ready to fight. That's the type of
<v Speaker 2>back life that he come from. And so that's why
<v Speaker 2>I had only seen so little emotion from him, because
<v Speaker 2>they had lived a hard life than they understood. And
<v Speaker 2>so he throwed me over his shoulder. He carried me
<v Speaker 2>over my uncle was standing on the side fence, and
<v Speaker 2>handed me over the fence so that I would scrape
<v Speaker 2>myself or anything. And my uncle took me. And when
<v Speaker 2>my grandfather crossed back over the fence, and he got
<v Speaker 2>back up on his horse, and he told my uncle.
<v Speaker 2>He said he had another He had another leash there,
<v Speaker 2>and he said, he said, take this horse. I'm not
<v Speaker 2>the one that rode me down there. He said, take
<v Speaker 2>this one back. He says, I'm gonna put Ray up
<v Speaker 2>on the back of my horse, and I'm gonna carry
<v Speaker 2>him home with me. Well, I watched. My my uncle
<v Speaker 2>had went ahead of us. I watched, so I was
<v Speaker 2>the one going on the very back of all of these,
<v Speaker 2>and I look back to the tree line, and I
<v Speaker 2>want you to know. She had came out from the
<v Speaker 2>tree line just enough to where she could see me.
<v Speaker 2>She watched, and heve be came a little bit more forward.
<v Speaker 2>The further we got ahead and almost stood at that
<v Speaker 2>barbed wire fence. Now I couldn't see what I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to tell you, but because of the distance, it appeared,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not kidding, it appeared almost as if she
<v Speaker 2>had grabbed a hold of that barbed wire fence with
<v Speaker 2>her hands and was holding on and just looking ahead.
<v Speaker 2>Because she stood there and watched until we were out
<v Speaker 2>of sight. What was all this about me, Gil, I
<v Speaker 2>can't tell you other than it appeared to me that
<v Speaker 2>there was a cree sure that we hear a lot about.
<v Speaker 2>And as I said to you earlier, just right across
<v Speaker 2>the river, Martin Notley's family was terrorized by a bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>But their experience was way beyond anything most would ever understood.
<v Speaker 2>They were terrorized, they had shot guns, they had to
<v Speaker 2>sit on up their houses. This thing tried to beat
<v Speaker 2>in their doors and killed it killed all their animals,
<v Speaker 2>in et cetera. This was the whole opposite experience of
<v Speaker 2>what I had. I still today questioned that why would
<v Speaker 2>something like this be this way? Well, I think it
<v Speaker 2>was Barton, only it could have been another one. But
<v Speaker 2>oh no, it was Jeremiah, Jeremiah Johnson not I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if it's Johnson Byron, I don't remember. But Jeremiah
<v Speaker 2>had told me when I brought that up, he said,
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what I think, and I said, okay.
<v Speaker 2>He said, why some people have a good experience and
<v Speaker 2>why some don't? He says, I've heard all around. He said,
<v Speaker 2>bigfoots are just like human beings. You've got the good
<v Speaker 2>and you've got the bad in every batch. He said,
<v Speaker 2>But imagine what I'm going to tell you. He says,
<v Speaker 2>imagine maybe a week or a day before, you go
<v Speaker 2>into a forest and a bigfoot meets up with some
<v Speaker 2>hunters and they shoot at it. He said, Now, let's
<v Speaker 2>ask ourselves technically about that. He said, Look, if you
<v Speaker 2>was shot at, and if you had some youth, meaning children,
<v Speaker 2>and you had a bigfoot wife or whatever, and you're
<v Speaker 2>there to protect them as the head of the family,
<v Speaker 2>and people come shooting at you and your family, He said,
<v Speaker 2>do you think that you're going to be very friendly
<v Speaker 2>with people after that? I said, you know, brother, I said, Jeremiah,
<v Speaker 2>I said that that makes all the sense in the world,
<v Speaker 2>he said. He said, A lot of people don't see that.
<v Speaker 2>He said, but apparently, with what you went through, he says,
<v Speaker 2>this bigfoot, it sounds to me, was very peaceful and
<v Speaker 2>general to begin with. But she also recognized how young
<v Speaker 2>you were and that you, to her, were a baby,
<v Speaker 2>and her instincts were to help. He said, that's the
<v Speaker 2>only explanation I can give you, brother, And he said,
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you that's one hundred percent right either,
<v Speaker 2>he says, but it's the only thing that makes sense
<v Speaker 2>to me. And I said, I've got a little wisdom. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, I had never thought about that,
<v Speaker 2>but you know that way well. So I never told
<v Speaker 2>my grandparents nor my uncle the story. I love. People
<v Speaker 2>said why. I'll tell you why because on the weekends,
<v Speaker 2>my grandfather and my uncle and a lot of my
<v Speaker 2>other uncles and family members, the men would get together
<v Speaker 2>and we would target practice. We would shoot. My grandfather
<v Speaker 2>had and I would not choke you when I say this.
<v Speaker 2>My grandfather had an armory of weapons. He had every
<v Speaker 2>type that was legal. Of course, he had every type
<v Speaker 2>of legal military war rifle, pistol, everything you could imagine,
<v Speaker 2>and enough animal he could have started a small, small war.
<v Speaker 2>And we would all to get together. And I ind
<v Speaker 2>at the age of five, Miguel, they they had me
<v Speaker 2>shooting high powered rifles and I mean some of those
<v Speaker 2>would kick and just really bruise my shoulder. And my
<v Speaker 2>grandmother was so upset about it. And my grandfather said, no,
<v Speaker 2>one day he's going to have to either serve in
<v Speaker 2>a military or something, but he's not going to fear,
<v Speaker 2>and he's going to be able to be able to
<v Speaker 2>handle anything that he puts in his hands. Was very true,
<v Speaker 2>because I did end up in the military. And to
<v Speaker 2>the place that we would call, you know, desert storm.
<v Speaker 2>All right, now, going back here.
<v Speaker 4>The the other story, if I may go forward with, was.
<v Speaker 2>The pond that I mentioned to you guys, the man
<v Speaker 2>may pawn. My grandfather had dug out there well, and
<v Speaker 2>in the same year, before you know, winter got there
<v Speaker 2>or anything. But while we still had summertime and everything
<v Speaker 2>going on. My uncle one day was told by my grandfather.
<v Speaker 2>He said, he said, take ray, He said, go back
<v Speaker 2>here in the field. He said, take a roll of
<v Speaker 2>this bob wireer, he said, and repair the fence back
<v Speaker 2>there up there near the pond, up on the hill.
<v Speaker 2>He said, repair the fence areas that have been torn down,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the post rod and etcetera. You have to
<v Speaker 2>fix that stuff all the time. And so he took
<v Speaker 2>a big role of this, this bob war fence, and
<v Speaker 2>he he went back there with me and brought me
<v Speaker 2>an inner tube so I could play on the pond
<v Speaker 2>while he would be up on the hill to prepare
<v Speaker 2>this bob war fence. Now he was a bit about
<v Speaker 2>a sight, but he was not far out of sight,
<v Speaker 2>let's say it that way. He would he would peek
<v Speaker 2>his head, he would come up stand top of the
<v Speaker 2>hill and peek out and make sure I was okay,
<v Speaker 2>off and on. But Miguel, Now I got out there
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of this pond. Now the pond was
<v Speaker 2>very very deep. I got out there in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of it, and I was on this old raft rubber tubing,
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like these big tractor wheels
<v Speaker 2>or whatever may be. Way back then, I think they
<v Speaker 2>had inner tubes. If it wasn't that, it was then
<v Speaker 2>it was from an old tractor, I mean an old
<v Speaker 2>truck tire or something. But as after the mild of
<v Speaker 2>the pond playing, the thing flipped up side down. I
<v Speaker 2>did not know how to swim. And I don't think
<v Speaker 2>my grandparents even thought of this when I went when
<v Speaker 2>that thing flipped upside down, brother went underwater. And I
<v Speaker 2>don't remember, uh if if I was even going to
<v Speaker 2>see daylight after that, because I know I got a
<v Speaker 2>big mouthful of water, and I know I struggled. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you something, low and be hooped, I
<v Speaker 2>felt something. It was a hand grabbed me by my
<v Speaker 2>shirt and started swiftly pulling me up to shore. Now
<v Speaker 2>there back there at that pond was one of the
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what kindtry this was, I'll be honest.
<v Speaker 2>I just remember this thing had white, and it had
<v Speaker 2>white all through the tree. But it was huge. This
<v Speaker 2>hand that I could not see, or could not tell
<v Speaker 2>or any of the above, swiftly was dragging me through
<v Speaker 2>this water, lifted me up and onto the very huge roots,
<v Speaker 2>because this tree had some the biggest roots you had
<v Speaker 2>ever seen in your life. And they were exposed, meaning
<v Speaker 2>that the earth and the ground were not covering them
<v Speaker 2>no more. And they stood out into the water and evey,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then some and this who wherever, this hand, whatever,
<v Speaker 2>this hand was, lifted me up out of the water
<v Speaker 2>and laid me up on the roots. And then these
<v Speaker 2>roots were huge, laid me up on the roots of
<v Speaker 2>this tree to where I was out of the water
<v Speaker 2>and in the safe now me gagging and choking up water,
<v Speaker 2>and thank god I didn't drown. But when I turned around,
<v Speaker 2>finally I got enough sense to turn around to see
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was my uncle. I thought he had
<v Speaker 2>came to rescue me. I turned around and a look
<v Speaker 2>behind me, Jeremiah, I mean, I'm sorry forgive me, Miguel.
<v Speaker 2>When I look back, there was that same bigfoot coming
<v Speaker 2>up out off the other side of the pond, walking
<v Speaker 2>up out of the water, and went up the hill
<v Speaker 2>and was gone in a flash. I mean a flash.
<v Speaker 2>She took no more time to look back to do anything.
<v Speaker 2>She wanted to get out of there. Well, then I
<v Speaker 2>realized why, because it couldn't have been but fifteen seconds.
<v Speaker 2>I heard somebody yelling my name. It was my uncle
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the pond, up on the hill.
<v Speaker 2>He's seen the tube, the river raft tube out in
<v Speaker 2>the middle, but he's seen me laying up on the
<v Speaker 2>roots of that tree, and he let out a cry
<v Speaker 2>that sounded like somebody had died, and come running down
<v Speaker 2>to the bottom of that pond, grabbed me off those
<v Speaker 2>roots and pulled me up to the shore, put me
<v Speaker 2>on his shoulder. He says, that's it. He says, this
<v Speaker 2>day's work's over. He said, we're going home. He took
<v Speaker 2>me back. Well again, I have never told these stories.
<v Speaker 2>And the reason I I shoot, I think I got
<v Speaker 2>off a little bit when I was talking about my
<v Speaker 2>grandfather and him shooting guns every weekend. The reason I
<v Speaker 2>never had told them about this female bigfoot I had
<v Speaker 2>encounter with was because I knew deep down in my soul,
<v Speaker 2>they would have killed this thing. They would have they
<v Speaker 2>would have put a search party together. Now whether it
<v Speaker 2>ever found her or not, I don't know, but but
<v Speaker 2>they would have. They would have went on the hunt,
<v Speaker 2>and if they had seen her, they would have they
<v Speaker 2>would have killed her. And to me, she was a friend,
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't an enemy, she wasn't trying to hurt nobody.
<v Speaker 2>And especially after that second event in the water, I
<v Speaker 2>really felt like that there was a bond there. I
<v Speaker 2>really felt like that. You know, I put my faith
<v Speaker 2>and I put my trust in God and God alone.
<v Speaker 2>But I know this God can use anything. He can
<v Speaker 2>use any animal, any creature, anything for his glory to
<v Speaker 2>help one that's in a position out And this just
<v Speaker 2>happened to be one of those situations that, for whatever reason,
<v Speaker 2>this animal had bonded with me and watched over me
<v Speaker 2>through the years that I was there. I can tell
<v Speaker 2>you things that you know that did happen on the
<v Speaker 2>farm over the years, and this this pretty much you'll
<v Speaker 2>go with a lot of things you've probably heard before
<v Speaker 2>through over the years. Because I told you my grandfather
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of animals on the farm there. Well,
<v Speaker 2>he had these these these pigs swine, and he had
<v Speaker 2>built this fence. And what he did was and I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they do this today. I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know why not if they don't, But this is
<v Speaker 2>how I remembered it being constructed. Date. He took three
<v Speaker 2>or four electric wires and wrapped them from the top
<v Speaker 2>of these posts down to the very bottom and put
<v Speaker 2>all of these these jar lids. He would draw hole
<v Speaker 2>in it. He would put these jar lids on these
<v Speaker 2>electric wires, more at the bottom than anything. And the
<v Speaker 2>reason for it was so those pigs couldn't escape and
<v Speaker 2>had put electricity to this, and so if they touched
<v Speaker 2>those jar lids which was filling in the gaps in
<v Speaker 2>the fence, then it just it hit the peak pretty
<v Speaker 2>good and keeping men there well. Over the years we
<v Speaker 2>had we had some some of the swine to come
<v Speaker 2>up missing. And now one thing I'll say is this
<v Speaker 2>one day we went out there and my grandfather I
<v Speaker 2>always got to go out there and help him, and
<v Speaker 2>we carried these buckets of what we call slop, and
<v Speaker 2>we would shut the electric fence off in the corn crib,
<v Speaker 2>which is where it was connected, and then we'd cross
<v Speaker 2>over the fence carry that slop, and then we would
<v Speaker 2>fill these troughs uh filled with the food of that
<v Speaker 2>slop for those peaks. It was a daily thing. And
<v Speaker 2>one day I watched my grandfather. He stopped getting his
<v Speaker 2>tracks while he was in the middle of this hog pen,
<v Speaker 2>and I watched him with his finger, and he kept
<v Speaker 2>pointing at each and every one of them as if
<v Speaker 2>he was counting. And then a scene put his hand
<v Speaker 2>upon his face as if he was thinking very very
<v Speaker 2>hard about something. Then A see him take his finger again,
<v Speaker 2>and he goes back to counting one more time. And
<v Speaker 2>I thought about it, and he says he was quietly
<v Speaker 2>but lowly, speaking to himself about out loud to where
<v Speaker 2>I could hear him. He says, we've got some pigs missing.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, I called him my grandfather. I called
<v Speaker 2>him Poppy and I said Poppy, I said, did you
<v Speaker 2>say we have some pigs missing? He said, yes, son,
<v Speaker 2>we do. And I said, how many, Poppy? He said,
<v Speaker 2>we got two missing, and he says they're babies. Babies,
<v Speaker 2>you know, probably meaning I don't know. They were probably
<v Speaker 2>fifty sixty pounds, I guess. And this is where my
<v Speaker 2>grandfather started paying attention to something right there in the
<v Speaker 2>middle of the pig then, and anybody knows that what
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you, he or you know this
<v Speaker 2>very well, especially if you've raised hogs. There was the
<v Speaker 2>pigs always their area is usually pretty sloppy, pretty muddy.
<v Speaker 2>They keep it that way. They waller in that got
<v Speaker 2>water in there, and they like wallering around in that stuff,
<v Speaker 2>and they keep it very muddy in there. Right in
<v Speaker 2>the middle of all of that being muddy was two
<v Speaker 2>huge prints of what looked like a man that had
<v Speaker 2>took his shoes off. But these, again, I'm gonna tell
<v Speaker 2>you in this podcast, I don't have no evidence to
<v Speaker 2>prove anything. I was only seven years old. There's that.
<v Speaker 2>There's just nothing. I don't I didn't know anything about anything.
<v Speaker 2>But I could sure tell you the story and tell
<v Speaker 2>you I have the memory and detail of every bit
<v Speaker 2>of it. But these prints were so huge it was unbelievable.
<v Speaker 2>My grandfather watched him. He went back up to the house,
<v Speaker 2>grabbed my uncle and he brought him out there and
<v Speaker 2>he started showing. Now they measured this, But again I
<v Speaker 2>don't know what they measured that at. I couldn't have
<v Speaker 2>told you two inches from five inches off of a
<v Speaker 2>measuring room. Now, I could tell you what seven foot
<v Speaker 2>look like because of andreta giant, But I couldn't have
<v Speaker 2>told you about no ruler. But I know this. I
<v Speaker 2>watch my grandfather. He grabbed one end of it. My
<v Speaker 2>uncle grabbed the other end, and he pulled it out.
<v Speaker 2>And I heard him talking to my uncle. He said,
<v Speaker 2>I ain't never seen no man with no foot like that,
<v Speaker 2>my uncle, just like you should have seen the look
<v Speaker 2>on this man's face. He looked at my grandfather and
<v Speaker 2>he said, what is this? He said, I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>he said, but I'm going to tell you this. He said,
<v Speaker 2>from this day forward, I don't want ray back in
<v Speaker 2>that field ever, from this day forward by himself. He said,
<v Speaker 2>from this day forward, I'm going to tell you. He said,
<v Speaker 2>if he goes back there, he goes with you or me,
<v Speaker 2>he says, and we are to start carrying firearms every
<v Speaker 2>time we go back. He said, I don't like what
<v Speaker 2>I see here. He said, I don't want anyone to
<v Speaker 2>know what is going on here. He says that hopefully
<v Speaker 2>this is the end of this. Well, I'd say over
<v Speaker 2>the next year, maybe two years, we did have a
<v Speaker 2>few more pigs go missing. What like a incredible amount.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna say this, Miguel, because I have to
<v Speaker 2>guess on this. I know there was two that day taken.
<v Speaker 2>I think over the time that i'd seen over the
<v Speaker 2>next year or two years, I'd say there's probably another
<v Speaker 2>six altogether that went missing. What was old crazy about it? Was?
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself to this later in years, How
<v Speaker 2>did the bigfoot cross this highly electric fence? I grabbed
<v Speaker 2>two pigs and cross back over without it? Shocking that
<v Speaker 2>that that's just a mystery to me today because I
<v Speaker 2>know he didn't. I know he didn't go up in
<v Speaker 2>that corn crib and shut that electric I mean, he
<v Speaker 2>could have, but I highly doubt that he somehow electricity
<v Speaker 2>or something didn't affect him and he was able to
<v Speaker 2>do whatever, or she or whatever was able to do
<v Speaker 2>what they needed to do to cross over into this
<v Speaker 2>territory and get what they needed. Now, this one thing
<v Speaker 2>I heard, this I cannot tell you. I'm not gonna
<v Speaker 2>be given you a correct number because this is just
<v Speaker 2>a guess. But over the years, Miguel, in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of the night, wasn't every night here and there I
<v Speaker 2>could hear what you would call howling sounds and sounds
<v Speaker 2>that I think that the best way to put this
<v Speaker 2>is the way you had said something to me prior
<v Speaker 2>to the broadcast, that guttural sound like a woman was
<v Speaker 2>being murdered. This was a scream that it's just you
<v Speaker 2>will never never get as long as you live. I
<v Speaker 2>know my grandfather and my uncle and my grandmother several
<v Speaker 2>times would hear this go outside and stand in our
<v Speaker 2>yard and listen, trying to figure out what in the
<v Speaker 2>world was going on, if somebody hurt or what is happening.
<v Speaker 2>They take flashlights, but they would never never knew this.
<v Speaker 2>They would never enter into the field area. They stayed
<v Speaker 2>on the grounds around the house, and they would never
<v Speaker 2>cross over into the area. But they would take high
<v Speaker 2>powered what they called back then coal miners lights, and
<v Speaker 2>that's what they were. They were coal miners lights. And
<v Speaker 2>anybody knows about the old coal miners lights. Those things
<v Speaker 2>were bright and they'd shine that back in there. They'd
<v Speaker 2>never see anything. Now, one of the weirdest stories, and
<v Speaker 2>this was when I got older. I've never forgot this. Miguel.
<v Speaker 2>We went back, me and my uncle. It's just me
<v Speaker 2>and him. One day we went back into the field
<v Speaker 2>to go rabbit hunting. Now, we crossed over into territory.
<v Speaker 2>Of all the years that we had lived there, et cetera,
<v Speaker 2>we crossed over into territory we had never been into.
<v Speaker 2>Meaning we actually just just saying it went over into
<v Speaker 2>territory and got off the acreage of where we owned,
<v Speaker 2>and we went up deeper into those woods. And I mean,
<v Speaker 2>anybody knows anything about Kentucky, the the ranges there is healing,
<v Speaker 2>very hilly. And we got back in the further into
<v Speaker 2>the deep part of this woods and we found some
<v Speaker 2>old old gravestones. They were so old that a lot
<v Speaker 2>of the lettering was gone, but yet there were some
<v Speaker 2>that still had lettering that was very readable. There was
<v Speaker 2>a couple of them that was some old Civil War
<v Speaker 2>soldiers that had been buried there, and one of them
<v Speaker 2>was a private and the other one was like a
<v Speaker 2>lieutenant or a corporal or something like that. It was
<v Speaker 2>someone with rank. They're guessing. There were probably fifteen tombstones,
<v Speaker 2>and it just appeared to me it was a family graveyard.
<v Speaker 2>But this thing had not been attended to for a
<v Speaker 2>very long time. So apparently the generations died off and
<v Speaker 2>never never went back and attended to these. They were broken,
<v Speaker 2>and some of them were still standing and very old.
<v Speaker 2>Some a lot of them had mold and stuff growing
<v Speaker 2>off of them, of moss and stuff.
<v Speaker 5>And but when we walked a little bit past us,
<v Speaker 5>this graveyard, this is wherever I'll never forget, we smelled
<v Speaker 5>something so.
<v Speaker 2>Bad, man, brother, I don't know if I've got a
<v Speaker 2>word for it. It just smelt bad. It smelled. It
<v Speaker 2>had a cross a smell of like a skunk and
<v Speaker 2>maybe a sulfur smell. And it was so bad it
<v Speaker 2>caused you to vomit. We had to cover our noses
<v Speaker 2>and our faces. But the only thing that kept us
<v Speaker 2>there was we spotted something just a little bit ahead
<v Speaker 2>of us. When we went up there. It was a
<v Speaker 2>bone yard. And Miguel, anyone knows anything about these things,
<v Speaker 2>And I think that you might have talked about this once.
<v Speaker 2>But this was all old deer carcasses, and I do
<v Speaker 2>believe we did find a few foxes in there. But
<v Speaker 2>these bones looked like they were older, and they look
<v Speaker 2>like they had been lick dry of something. They were
<v Speaker 2>stacked up in one area completely. This is not something
<v Speaker 2>that you would look at and think to yourself, well,
<v Speaker 2>an animal just come back here and died. Well, no,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think fifteen or twenty carcasses of animals come
<v Speaker 2>back or enjoined theirself and did that. Something had been
<v Speaker 2>feeding and they made this their feeding place. Now, we
<v Speaker 2>never found those pig bones that from all the pigs
<v Speaker 2>that did go missing. All we found, though, was what
<v Speaker 2>I'd said, a lot of deer and probably a couple
<v Speaker 2>of foxes that was just thrown up on this little
<v Speaker 2>bitty mound where whatever was there eating was thrown all
<v Speaker 2>of bones together. My uncle looked at that, and then
<v Speaker 2>we had that smell going on. He looked up at me.
<v Speaker 2>I had never seen a look on anybody's face like this.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, yeah, you know, considering the smell that
<v Speaker 2>that would give anybody a bad look. But the boneyard
<v Speaker 2>is what got him with the look. When he's seen
<v Speaker 2>all of this. He looked up at me and he said, go.
<v Speaker 2>He said go. I said what he said, go Now,
<v Speaker 2>let's get out of here. He said, something is not
<v Speaker 2>right here. He said, I've never as long as I've lived,
<v Speaker 2>I have never crossed anything like this in my life.
<v Speaker 2>He says, something abnormal is going on here. And he
<v Speaker 2>rushed me out of there, and when we got back
<v Speaker 2>to the house, he told me, grandfather is story in
<v Speaker 2>the front bedroom. There, the bedroom the front bedroom and
<v Speaker 2>was also considered our TV room, and my grandfather grandmother's
<v Speaker 2>bed was there, but they also had a couch in
<v Speaker 2>there and a lazy boy. This is a bigger room,
<v Speaker 2>and we that's where we'd go when we join in
<v Speaker 2>and watch TV. When we did get one. God, it
<v Speaker 2>was probably seven years from the time that I told
<v Speaker 2>you about when we had zero, and we we would
<v Speaker 2>enjoy watching in that room. But he went in there
<v Speaker 2>and he took my grandfather's side, telling that story. First
<v Speaker 2>words out of his mouth, he said, that's it. He said,
<v Speaker 2>ray is to never never go back in that field
<v Speaker 2>from this day forward. He said, we've seen things. We
<v Speaker 2>seen those those prints, those footprints, and we seen the
<v Speaker 2>the hogs missing. And he said, but that story, he said,
<v Speaker 2>that tops it off. He said, Reyes to never go
<v Speaker 2>back there. He says, I don't even mean with you
<v Speaker 2>or me, He said, I think it's just safer. He
<v Speaker 2>stays here, he says, and he can help attend to
<v Speaker 2>the garden and attend to the corn when we bring
<v Speaker 2>them in on the combines, etc. He said, but he
<v Speaker 2>is not to go back in those fields ever. And
<v Speaker 2>from that day forward until I actually got old older,
<v Speaker 2>I never did get to go back there until I
<v Speaker 2>was adult enough and could make that decision. I'm sitting
<v Speaker 2>here trying to think, Well, Miguel, do you get any
<v Speaker 2>questions for me? Because I don't know if I've covered
<v Speaker 2>everything there for you, but I think I've got a
<v Speaker 2>lot out there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely have a lot of questions. And that
<v Speaker 1>was certainly an interesting series of encounters and experiences. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that that creature, it almost sounds like you're guardian angel,
<v Speaker 1>like it has watched you and imprinted on you specifically,
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's been watching you for a long time.
<v Speaker 1>And when you were hurt, that creature came out of
<v Speaker 1>the deep to rescue you, and it had compassion for you.
<v Speaker 1>Why did you not trust the creature to pull you
<v Speaker 1>out of the briar bushes where you just I know
<v Speaker 1>you said you weren't afraid, But was it just the
<v Speaker 1>unknown factor?
<v Speaker 2>It was the unknown factor? Yeah, you know, And I
<v Speaker 2>know that it's conflicting because because I don't even said
<v Speaker 2>it myself, you know, i'd had when I heard this
<v Speaker 2>thing speak to me. You know, however, you won't call that,
<v Speaker 2>but spiritually you know, or whatever. But in my head,
<v Speaker 2>I could hear everything talking to me and telling me
<v Speaker 2>don't be afraid, it's okay. I'm only here to help
<v Speaker 2>you out of this place that you're in, meaning you know,
<v Speaker 2>the sticker bush. But even though had I had this
<v Speaker 2>overwhelming piece, there was still deep down in me what
<v Speaker 2>you said there the unknown factor that I just felt
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't want to go to that next step,
<v Speaker 2>and so I sort of stayed still.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that completely makes sense, and I definitely do feel
<v Speaker 1>like these creatures are connected to the old world. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know about the naphelon, but they are giants. And yep,
<v Speaker 1>the mind speak, the cloaking, the orbs, it all points
<v Speaker 1>back towards a supernatural creature. And just because something is supernatural,
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that it won't need to eat food
<v Speaker 1>and have regular characteristics of a physical creature. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the mind speak that definitely gets me. I hear that
<v Speaker 1>a lot on my channel. I've spoken to a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people on the channel and that I know personally
<v Speaker 1>that have experienced the same phenomenon, and it just makes
<v Speaker 1>me believe that they truly are something next level. And yeah, yep,
<v Speaker 1>do you feel like this creature, I don't know, like
<v Speaker 1>God allowed this creature to watch over you and save
<v Speaker 1>you because you did say that you're like a minister.
<v Speaker 1>Now do you do you feel like maybe this all
<v Speaker 1>ties into that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, this word's conflicting with me, and I'm you.
<v Speaker 2>I think you probably get what I mean. I myself,
<v Speaker 2>for years have tried to get understanding of what this
<v Speaker 2>really is and what it's about, etc. And Miguel, if
<v Speaker 2>I had to look at that biblically, and if I
<v Speaker 2>had were to try to connect that to God's word
<v Speaker 2>and try to get understanding, I mean I could bring
<v Speaker 2>forth the stories you know when you looked in Genesis
<v Speaker 2>chapter six where it said that the fallen angels. And
<v Speaker 2>this is going to sound a little far fetched for
<v Speaker 2>some people that don't know God or the Bible or anything,
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not here preaching. I'm just trying to answer
<v Speaker 2>that question. But in Genesis chapter six, it's back then
<v Speaker 2>it said that the fallen angels made it with the
<v Speaker 2>women upon earth, which begat what we called the giants
<v Speaker 2>the Nephelum. Okay, I've heard other people you know, say
<v Speaker 2>other different things, like they would talk about Esau was
<v Speaker 2>a very hairy man. You know, I've heard just all
<v Speaker 2>kinds of things. I really don't know, but deep down
<v Speaker 2>in me, I do believe they they are some sort
<v Speaker 2>of hybrid. And I'll say why. I do feel that
<v Speaker 2>there is a mixture of human DNA and whatever it
<v Speaker 2>is they are, because over the years and the things
<v Speaker 2>that I've seen, they have absolutely, without a shadow of
<v Speaker 2>a doubt, in many laboratories. And believe me, they had
<v Speaker 2>to go to the right laboratories that were not government
<v Speaker 2>painted or touched, because most of those will try to
<v Speaker 2>hide the true results of things. But they have proven
<v Speaker 2>that when they've turned hair of these animals and whatever
<v Speaker 2>you know, DNA, and I think some of them might
<v Speaker 2>have been he had just a little bit of blood
<v Speaker 2>and all that on it. But over time, the true
<v Speaker 2>labs and listen, now, this is not just one or
<v Speaker 2>two labs. We are talking about multiple labs that have
<v Speaker 2>absolutely returned the results back said without a shadow of
<v Speaker 2>a doubt, this is a mixture of human DNA and
<v Speaker 2>some other type of an animal. And when you look
<v Speaker 2>at that, I you know you can't help. But the
<v Speaker 2>sink and wonder if that was a biblical type of thing. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>but then you would think to yourself, Okay, if them
<v Speaker 2>things were demonic, let people say they are. The big
<v Speaker 2>question is why would something so demonic want to help somebody?
<v Speaker 2>Why would something like that reach out to help a
<v Speaker 2>little child? Two times? Undeniably, and you know I can't
<v Speaker 2>answer them questions. I hope that your viewers, after they
<v Speaker 2>see this podcast, I hope that, honestly, that they'll chime
<v Speaker 2>in and they'll tell what they think. I'm always interested
<v Speaker 2>in what other people's learned. I'm always open to learning.
<v Speaker 2>I can only say what a think, but I am
<v Speaker 2>not telling you this is factual. If I had to
<v Speaker 2>get yes, that is, if there is truth to that
<v Speaker 2>being some sort of a hybrid between a human and
<v Speaker 2>some sort of an animal of some type of species
<v Speaker 2>we don't know about. The question people like I said,
<v Speaker 2>was like, why would this thing help you if it
<v Speaker 2>was demonic? Okay? But if that is true? You thinking
<v Speaker 2>about it, it had part human DNA If people choose
<v Speaker 2>to believe this, and then it had that other okay.
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I can think is that the human
<v Speaker 2>side of it, the DNA part of it was kicked
<v Speaker 2>in and there was compassion that came through the human
<v Speaker 2>DNA part of it. The animalistic side of it just
<v Speaker 2>didn't show. I mean it showed yeuh physically, but in
<v Speaker 2>the emotional state, this thing showed the compassion of something
<v Speaker 2>that you would consider us as human beings would have done.
<v Speaker 2>And that's something that one of us as human beings,
<v Speaker 2>meaning a good human being. And there is both sides,
<v Speaker 2>but that's something a good human being would have done,
<v Speaker 2>would have reached out to have helped and saved a
<v Speaker 2>human being, especially a child. That's the only thing that
<v Speaker 2>I can give for what I think. And notice what
<v Speaker 2>I said, that's what I think. There's nothing factual here
<v Speaker 2>because I can't prove it, no more than anybody else,
<v Speaker 2>but to come up with an answer, that's all I
<v Speaker 2>could ever get.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think people will
<v Speaker 1>be able to come up with an answer. A lot
<v Speaker 1>of people demonize this asquat and they say they're demons,
<v Speaker 1>they're evil, but I don't know. I kind of disagree.
<v Speaker 1>I've taken multiple stories where these things have saved people's lives,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't feel like a demon would do that.
<v Speaker 1>It would do anything it could to divide and destroy
<v Speaker 1>the family, and anything it can to to hurt you guys,
<v Speaker 1>And yeah.
<v Speaker 6>This thing didn't do that.
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I can think of is maybe if
<v Speaker 1>they are the fallen ones or the nephale, maybe not
<v Speaker 1>all of them are bad and they're trying to redeem
<v Speaker 1>themselves and they were tricked by Satan. And I don't
<v Speaker 1>really know. I mean, like you said, no one really
<v Speaker 1>has an answer. But the Bible does say that there
<v Speaker 1>was a flood and there were giants in those days.
<v Speaker 1>And when the Bible says something, it may be short,
<v Speaker 1>but if you really look at it, there was so
<v Speaker 1>much time there. For example, like when Jesus went into
<v Speaker 1>the wilderness for forty days, it just talks about instances
<v Speaker 1>with him and the devil, and it doesn't talk about
<v Speaker 1>every single day all forty There's a long time there.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, with the flood, when it says there were giants,
<v Speaker 1>and it just kind of moves on. That's the whole civilization.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of time that happened there, and we see
<v Speaker 1>evidence of that nowadays. But yeah, I'm not going to
<v Speaker 1>get into the whole religious part of it. I know
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't don't want to hear it.
<v Speaker 1>But when we talk about bigfoot, it always leads back
<v Speaker 1>to the Bible, and I just can't help it. I'm
<v Speaker 1>not a people pleaser, so I can't avoid it. It's
<v Speaker 1>a topic that needs to be discussed because it all
<v Speaker 1>ties in someway or another. But yeah, let's get back
<v Speaker 1>to the encounter. And I thought the description of the
<v Speaker 1>foot was really interesting. How you said the big toe
<v Speaker 1>was separated from the rest of the toes. Do you
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's possibly to grab onto things like when
<v Speaker 1>it climbs trees. What are your thoughts about that?
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know, but I do know that
<v Speaker 2>I've heard, and i've I mean, i've ever seen this mysell,
<v Speaker 2>but I've heard and then I've seen, you know, some footage,
<v Speaker 2>whether that footage was AI or whether it was true footage.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think that everything is AI. I don't
<v Speaker 2>I never will believe that. I was without a shadow
<v Speaker 2>of a doubt, only because of my experiences. I believe
<v Speaker 2>there's some true footage that's out there and that we
<v Speaker 2>see in some of that almost every day that's being
<v Speaker 2>put out by some of these people doing documentaries. I've
<v Speaker 2>seen I've seen a lot where they caught these things
<v Speaker 2>in trees and hanging out watching people, et cetera. I
<v Speaker 2>think that what you said there's very very correct. Again,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think actually say, I don't know for sure,
<v Speaker 2>but but it's the only thing that makes sense to me,
<v Speaker 2>is that the form of the way that is is Yes,
<v Speaker 2>I think it is so that they can I mean,
<v Speaker 2>like those monkeys, but just a much much bigger than
<v Speaker 2>any monkey could ebb forever grow to stature or wait
<v Speaker 2>and et cetera. Trust me, your silver back gorillas are
<v Speaker 2>pretty big, but they do not touch this this thing.
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I don't know. I don't know the
<v Speaker 2>height of gorilla the silver backs, And I'm just I'm
<v Speaker 2>stating that here because you know, I don't want people
<v Speaker 2>coming on here trying to quote me when I'm not
<v Speaker 2>set here at some computer looking at you know, statistics
<v Speaker 2>or heights on what those things get to or anything.
<v Speaker 2>But I can tell you have been to enough Zeus
<v Speaker 2>that I know this. The the Sasquatch is way bigger
<v Speaker 2>than any girl gorilla or any silver back that I've
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. They were way beyond this. I think that
<v Speaker 2>what you said there makes better sense than anything, is
<v Speaker 2>that their feet serve as that purpose to be able
<v Speaker 2>to declimb trees, climb mountainous ranges, and to get into
<v Speaker 2>places that most normal things could not get into. I
<v Speaker 2>just see it for them as a very big benefit
<v Speaker 2>for them. I don't I don't know. I mean, I've
<v Speaker 2>heard that the bones in their feet are supposedly much
<v Speaker 2>different than ours, and there's something about they said that
<v Speaker 2>the bone structure is different, and you know, they don't
<v Speaker 2>walk like we do, and et cetera, and and I
<v Speaker 2>take it's all built into, like you said, equipped for
<v Speaker 2>them and their benefit to be able to get from
<v Speaker 2>one place to another or to climb or whatever it
<v Speaker 2>is they do do to help benefit them to their advantage.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's yeah, I think that's right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And it's all a theory. Do you feel
<v Speaker 1>like the Sasquatch put the horse in a trance or
<v Speaker 1>produce infra sound on it?
<v Speaker 6>What are your thoughts about them?
<v Speaker 2>You know, I never you know something, Miguil. You're the
<v Speaker 2>first person ever and again this is only second interview
<v Speaker 2>I've ever did. Okay, but I have talked to other people, though,
<v Speaker 2>I mean not podcasts or anything You're the second person
<v Speaker 2>to ever interview me. But I have even though all
<v Speaker 2>the people I've talked to and I've never been to
<v Speaker 2>these bigfoot you know these well they call it conferences
<v Speaker 2>or whatever and all that, I've never been to one.
<v Speaker 2>I've been interested in that, but I've just never ventured
<v Speaker 2>a one. But my thought, you know, is, well, when
<v Speaker 2>I look back at that, and this being the first
<v Speaker 2>time I was asked this, I do I do believe that.
<v Speaker 2>I do believe that because that horse did not act normal.
<v Speaker 2>He didn't like I said I've always heard, and I
<v Speaker 2>mean and for anybody that's not seen your channel or
<v Speaker 2>has not looked at a lot of your material, I
<v Speaker 2>will tell you this. They need to. And when you
<v Speaker 2>when you went back in and made the Killing Fields,
<v Speaker 2>and that's something I recommend to a lot of your
<v Speaker 2>viewers to go watch. That was one of the best
<v Speaker 2>series I've ever seen. I learned so much that I
<v Speaker 2>never knew. And when you listened to that interview, not
<v Speaker 2>remember the fellow's name, but when you listened to that
<v Speaker 2>interview that you did with this, I think farmer is
<v Speaker 2>what I got out of it. He talked, you know,
<v Speaker 2>really a lot about that the animals always ran from
<v Speaker 2>one side of the property to the other depending on
<v Speaker 2>where that bigfoot was. But this was got This is
<v Speaker 2>the whole opposite in a way of speaking. The horse
<v Speaker 2>only went a little bit of the way. He didn't run,
<v Speaker 2>But when the bigfoot come up unseen, he walked slowly
<v Speaker 2>and gently down the fence line, just enough to where
<v Speaker 2>I think he felt like he was safe. But for
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, he did not leave complete sight of me,
<v Speaker 2>and he stood at the fence. He didn't try to
<v Speaker 2>graze on the grass. You're right. If I save back
<v Speaker 2>at this, it would have appeared as if he had
<v Speaker 2>been in some sort of a trance because you don't
<v Speaker 2>see them. That's still, especially with something that's got a scent. Now,
<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, that's something we didn't talk about either.
<v Speaker 2>I did not smell that horrible scent, that foul smell
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people talks about. Not in that encounter,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. Now if this is something that to use
<v Speaker 2>as a defense system or whatever, then you know, so
<v Speaker 2>be it. But let me say this. If that's what
<v Speaker 2>that is, then to me, they're using that to back
<v Speaker 2>people off. But this is one thing I will say,
<v Speaker 2>if they're able to control that. She did a pretty
<v Speaker 2>good job that day, because I did not smell that
<v Speaker 2>that day, not like when I went into that bone yard. Now,
<v Speaker 2>that bone yard there was something so foul and so
<v Speaker 2>sickening it was almost the point of vomiting. But when
<v Speaker 2>she came, I'm just telling you that I smelled more
<v Speaker 2>of that horse. Anybody it's been around horses knows what
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. They don't smell bad, but they've got this
<v Speaker 2>animalistic smell. It's different than most. And she didn't even
<v Speaker 2>have any smell. I don't know if she was just
<v Speaker 2>controlling it or I don't know if she had something
<v Speaker 2>going on different than the other big foots that probably
<v Speaker 2>you hear about. But whatever it was, I did not
<v Speaker 2>smell that smell that day. That was I didn't think
<v Speaker 2>about that. But I'm glad to remember to tell you that. Man,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I got off on you question there, miguil.
<v Speaker 1>You go hit Yeah, no, I completely agree, And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>when people do bigfoot research, we rely on testimonies as
<v Speaker 1>actual evidence, and I feel like police officers do the
<v Speaker 1>same when they're making reports. If people multiple people say
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, that's evidence and when you said the
<v Speaker 1>creature heard you crying and it came in. This proves
<v Speaker 1>that they're attracted to, let's say, women and children, especially
<v Speaker 1>when kids are playing out on the playground or if
<v Speaker 1>they're crying. This thing had compassion for you and it
<v Speaker 1>knew you were in trouble.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the day in the pond and me almost
<v Speaker 2>drowning that, there's no denying what what they're her, I'll
<v Speaker 2>say her her real intent was, because I know for
<v Speaker 2>a fact then yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And the color Yeah, yeah, the color was really interesting too.
<v Speaker 1>How it was a reddish color and on the black
<v Speaker 1>on the back it was a jet black color that
<v Speaker 1>reminds me like a calico cat or something.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could tell like from the back because like
<v Speaker 2>I said, it was really black in the back, But
<v Speaker 2>when it started getting up, like around in the shoulder area,
<v Speaker 2>like around the top of what you would consider shoulders,
<v Speaker 2>that's when you start seeing the hair color changing. And
<v Speaker 2>then the more you got into the front, that's when
<v Speaker 2>it was real drastic looking. And it was consistent with
<v Speaker 2>its color between the back and the front. Yeah, almostly,
<v Speaker 2>ladies said, almost calico. But the only difference is that
<v Speaker 2>this was you know, from one side to the other,
<v Speaker 2>and there was not like you know, dark and then red.
<v Speaker 2>You know, in one area it was like all of
<v Speaker 2>the back was black and all of the front was red.
<v Speaker 2>And in the end the red the red had it
<v Speaker 2>had tints of the red, meaning from a darker to
<v Speaker 2>a lighter color of the red.
<v Speaker 1>Uh.
<v Speaker 2>But it was consistent though, it was very consistent. Beautiful.
<v Speaker 2>I will say that that red, that red made this
<v Speaker 2>this big foot. I mean you probably near no one
<v Speaker 2>never hear anybody say this on your podcasts, but that
<v Speaker 2>red actually made that animal beautiful. Believe it or not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're beautiful creatures, they really are. And like you said,
<v Speaker 1>when you look into their eyes, you see nothing but intelligence.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, that I'll never forget as long as I
<v Speaker 2>live on planet Earth. The intelligence factor there anyone that
<v Speaker 2>if there were whatever even we have that type of
<v Speaker 2>a chance to be that close to one and if
<v Speaker 2>if for some reason they were able to get past
<v Speaker 2>the trauma or the fear of being in the presence
<v Speaker 2>or having that type of an encounter, if that's possible
<v Speaker 2>for them, they know it was for me. The one
<v Speaker 2>thing is that you you I know that without the
<v Speaker 2>fear and without the trauma. You're going to be able
<v Speaker 2>to pay more close attention to detail then, because if
<v Speaker 2>you got all this emotional stuff going on, and this
<v Speaker 2>was with anything in life, you don't tend to pay
<v Speaker 2>attention to the details of anything. You're more focused on
<v Speaker 2>how do I get out of this, where do I go, what,
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But with that situation, I almost feel like
<v Speaker 2>I myself could I don't. I don't feel like I
<v Speaker 2>was fully hypnotized by no means. I don't any feel
<v Speaker 2>like I was controlled. But do I know that goes
<v Speaker 2>beyond a shadow of a doubt that she spoke to
<v Speaker 2>me without audible voice. Oh yeah, I'm gonna tell you
<v Speaker 2>right here. There's no denying that one. Now something I
<v Speaker 2>have not told mit, Ghil. I have been to different woods. Now.
<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong. I'm not one of these mountain
<v Speaker 2>hikers any of the above. But I love the outdoors,
<v Speaker 2>and I love going to woody areas and parks and
<v Speaker 2>stuff and parking my car and walking in I love nature.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to tell you something. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if it had something to do with that encounter I
<v Speaker 2>had with this bigfoot that day, And I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if this opened up a rem or a portal to me.
<v Speaker 2>But ever since that, you take me to any woody
<v Speaker 2>area that you want, and I, without a shadow of
<v Speaker 2>a doubt, can tell you if there's a bigfoot in there.
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you if this creature has ill intention,
<v Speaker 2>and I can tell you if that creature is gentle.
<v Speaker 2>Don't ask me how I know that, because I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I just know. I have been the many wooded areas
<v Speaker 2>and I can part my car up on the edge
<v Speaker 2>of the woods and I can hear. I can hear them,
<v Speaker 2>I can hear the intention, I can hear the warning.
<v Speaker 2>I can hear whatever it is they want you to hear.
<v Speaker 2>And if they don't want you there, one thing I know,
<v Speaker 2>they'll make it very clear, don't come in here. It's
<v Speaker 2>not safe, or you might get a real nasty one
<v Speaker 2>that might say, you know, just stay out of here.
<v Speaker 2>And you can just tell something's not writing something you
<v Speaker 2>just I can only say this going by my intuition
<v Speaker 2>on something like that. I would never never cross what
<v Speaker 2>I heard, because I know that if you're being warned
<v Speaker 2>just don't do it, then it would it would not
<v Speaker 2>be advisable. I've not been like again I've never had
<v Speaker 2>a bad experience with any of them. But I know
<v Speaker 2>from that day of hearing this bigfoot speak to me
<v Speaker 2>inaudibly well without voice into my head. From that day forward,
<v Speaker 2>I've been able to hear when I go to any
<v Speaker 2>general area of wood or wherever, I've been able to
<v Speaker 2>hear if they wanted to say something. Now, can I
<v Speaker 2>understand that, miguil, No, sir, I cannot. I do not
<v Speaker 2>have no explanation to this, but I know I've heard
<v Speaker 2>it several times. Again, I've never had a bad experience.
<v Speaker 2>I've always listened to what I've been told, and that's
<v Speaker 2>either stay stay out, or it's better that you don't
<v Speaker 2>come in here. I've heard of different ways. And if
<v Speaker 2>there's a real gentle one though invite you in, I
<v Speaker 2>mean you may never see him, but I will tell
<v Speaker 2>you this, you will definitely hear enough racket and clad
<v Speaker 2>are going on, or footsteps going on around you enough
<v Speaker 2>to let you know. This is confirmation that I was
<v Speaker 2>invited in. And now, to be honest, ever since my
<v Speaker 2>experiences when I was younger, I have not up to
<v Speaker 2>this date, I have not seen another bigfoot, but I
<v Speaker 2>have heard them and I have heard them audibly inaudibly,
<v Speaker 2>sorry speak to me. Wasn't a ton, but it was
<v Speaker 2>enough where I could tell you without a shadow of
<v Speaker 2>doubt that there's not a set of woods you couldn't
<v Speaker 2>take me to and park me at the edge, and
<v Speaker 2>before you ever enter in, I could for sure tell
<v Speaker 2>you what's in there. Is it good, is it bad?
<v Speaker 2>Does it have good intention? Or is it just protecting
<v Speaker 2>it's young or its area. I could always do that.
<v Speaker 2>That's That've never told that either on you know, like
<v Speaker 2>I say, your only second podcast. But I've never told
<v Speaker 2>that to anyone, because then what people think of some
<v Speaker 2>loom and jumped over the fence, And probably it will
<v Speaker 2>be a few think that anyway, But I have nothing
<v Speaker 2>to prove. Like I said in the beginning of the podcast,
<v Speaker 2>anybody that gets on here tell stories like this and
<v Speaker 2>makes that stuff up, I'd lose all respect for an
<v Speaker 2>individual like that. They're dishonest, They take up people's time,
<v Speaker 2>and it's wrong to the highest I don't need that
<v Speaker 2>type of attention. It's bad enough that people think you're
<v Speaker 2>crazy to tell something like this. Lill long going in
<v Speaker 2>and making up something. I don't know why anybody would
<v Speaker 2>want to make something like that up and draw unnecessary
<v Speaker 2>attention to them. My purposes in the beginning was what
<v Speaker 2>I said. It was to make people very well aware
<v Speaker 2>this is a very real, existent thing on planet Earth.
<v Speaker 2>And again, like I said, it's therapeutic to me at times,
<v Speaker 2>because I get these thoughts built up and after a
<v Speaker 2>while you just you feel like you've got to release that.
<v Speaker 2>And by this means that it really is therapeutic to
<v Speaker 2>me in a way of speaking. It helps me to
<v Speaker 2>just get it out of me, and it's comforting to
<v Speaker 2>be able to do that. So that's why I do
<v Speaker 2>what I do here.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I feel like Jeremiah was was on point
<v Speaker 1>when he said, you never know if somebody took a
<v Speaker 1>shot at one of these creatures, or you never know,
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, maybe people put out traps. I've
<v Speaker 1>had a guess in the past that was putting out
<v Speaker 1>animal traps. He was an old trapper and he took
<v Speaker 1>these things off and they would try to they would
<v Speaker 1>take his dogs. They would show up at his house
<v Speaker 1>and they were never happy. And yeah, I mean there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of possibilities there. Maybe they just didn't like
<v Speaker 1>the way they looked or how they smelled or you
<v Speaker 1>never know, people getting arguments and maybe they saw something
<v Speaker 1>they didn't like. But what exactly happened? What are the
<v Speaker 1>neighbors down the road experience.
<v Speaker 2>You know, Miguel, other than the Barton Nunley story there,
<v Speaker 2>I honestly, my grandfather was so private. He yes, he
<v Speaker 2>did converse with these neighbors, the closest ones, like I
<v Speaker 2>told you about old man Riddle, and you know he'd
<v Speaker 2>had many sons and all that. We never really had
<v Speaker 2>any conversations with anyone about that type of stuff. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>and if there were, I myself were not aware of
<v Speaker 2>them and I wasn't present. Now I can tell you this,
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't think about this. Again. Good a good
<v Speaker 2>somebody that's that's got to good. Questions like yourself will
<v Speaker 2>draw stuff out of you that you forgot that was there,
<v Speaker 2>or money we draw in a memory, which I like that.
<v Speaker 2>And you really are good at what you do here, brother,
<v Speaker 2>and thank God that you do what you do. Now,
<v Speaker 2>when I got older, got up into high school, some
<v Speaker 2>of the kids that grew up in the very area
<v Speaker 2>where I did. Now, don't get me wrong, we were
<v Speaker 2>not We only had like a few neighbors back then
<v Speaker 2>that was lived very close, but we did have a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people over the spread it out area and
<v Speaker 2>the same I don't know if you any want to
<v Speaker 2>call it a city. Anybody look at this place up
<v Speaker 2>on the map can tell you you know Zion Bluff
<v Speaker 2>City there. It still super small today. But when we
<v Speaker 2>got on school buses back then in the high school,
<v Speaker 2>some of the guys back then, I'll never forget and
<v Speaker 2>I never shared my story, but I listened to them
<v Speaker 2>a talking and there was a lot of sightings. I
<v Speaker 2>was very quiet. I didn't say much. Again, I didn't
<v Speaker 2>want people on our territory or property back there trying
<v Speaker 2>to hunt down what I considered friendly and as a
<v Speaker 2>protector in a way of speaking back then, I never
<v Speaker 2>ever spoke out because of that reason. And I mean iman,
<v Speaker 2>as I said before, I am the protected this animal.
<v Speaker 2>When Edimie came to my grandfather and uncle. Now, even
<v Speaker 2>though they found out in their own way, something was there,
<v Speaker 2>but had they ever heard my story, they'd had a cow.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm very serious they would have had a cow,
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, I think if they'd ever heard that story,
<v Speaker 2>they might have shipped me back off to my mom
<v Speaker 2>and dad, thinking that I was definitely in more more
<v Speaker 2>of a worse place than you know what my mom
<v Speaker 2>and dad was trying to do to begin with, meaning
<v Speaker 2>sending me out of the city of Detroit, Michigan, as
<v Speaker 2>it was just crime infested. And what happened was miguel
<v Speaker 2>I'll say it so it's not drug out. But at
<v Speaker 2>four years old, I was on my front porch in Detroit, Michigan,
<v Speaker 2>and three men took me off the porch, stole me,
<v Speaker 2>took me three or four houses down. They had a
<v Speaker 2>trailer that came out on the the sidewalk that was
<v Speaker 2>part there. I'm not going to go any further with
<v Speaker 2>this story, but they did things to me that I
<v Speaker 2>would pray to God what never ever happened to another
<v Speaker 2>human being. The miracle of it is I lived through it.
<v Speaker 2>They found these men, they served the rest of their
<v Speaker 2>life in prison. But my grand I mean not matters fact,
<v Speaker 2>my grandfather, grandmother, my mom and dad come to that
<v Speaker 2>conclusion when that incident happened, it was better to send
<v Speaker 2>me to be with my grandparents because they just didn't
<v Speaker 2>safe after that, and that's what caused that. That's why
<v Speaker 2>I went from the city to the country, and yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that pretty much was why I did that transfer like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry to hear about that. And I guess
<v Speaker 1>my question earlier was I can't remember the name their names,
<v Speaker 1>but you said across the river there's people having encounters. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they were negative ones. Do you know the details on that?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, But well I give you so much. Barton Nunley
<v Speaker 2>is his name, and he's very very well known. He's
<v Speaker 2>done huge documentaries. He's I think he's even did a
<v Speaker 2>movie or two producers that came and that he's did this.
<v Speaker 2>He has a I don't remember the name of it
<v Speaker 2>off top of my head, but he's got a big
<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel and following. But what they called that, and
<v Speaker 2>back then this was so well known, this incident with him,
<v Speaker 2>they called it the Spotsville Monster. Okay, the Gleaner, which
<v Speaker 2>is miss Henderson County can tell is the Henderson Gleaner
<v Speaker 2>is I think they're still up and going. That was
<v Speaker 2>the newspaper for the town Day came out and did
<v Speaker 2>a huge story on this, and that's where everything just went. Now,
<v Speaker 2>to be very honest, these these poor people suffered horribly
<v Speaker 2>for one year, one year straight. This thing MHM came
<v Speaker 2>in if I remembered had heard that it killed. It
<v Speaker 2>killed mostly all the dogs chickens. I think it got
<v Speaker 2>a hold. I'm I'm going by memory on this one now.
<v Speaker 2>I think that they said it got to hold their goats,
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. When they called the the game warden and
<v Speaker 2>the and all these people. Barton claims that there was
<v Speaker 2>a big government cover up and that they kept telling him,
<v Speaker 2>do not call us no more. And if you keep
<v Speaker 2>calling the county sheriff, you're just going to be looking
<v Speaker 2>for trouble. Why would you say such a thing. He's
<v Speaker 2>written books on these very interesting and when I go
<v Speaker 2>back in time and I think about and when me
<v Speaker 2>and him talk, and I mean, it was a pleasure
<v Speaker 2>to talk to someone that's that well known, and he's
<v Speaker 2>very well known. It was a pleasure to talk somewhere.
<v Speaker 2>And he said, you know, he says, if you hadn't
<v Speaker 2>lived where you lived and had your story, he said,
<v Speaker 2>I probably wouldn't have had time, he said, but I
<v Speaker 2>got all the time in the world for you. And
<v Speaker 2>when he heard my story, he was just blowed away.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we literally the only thing that separated us
<v Speaker 2>was that green Ripper. And you know, again, I was
<v Speaker 2>only you know, seven at my time, back in nineteen
<v Speaker 2>seventy five, and I mean here he I think he
<v Speaker 2>might have been the same age, but him and his
<v Speaker 2>whole family, and he had a big family apparently that
<v Speaker 2>they were terrorized by this thing every night, and this
<v Speaker 2>thing will come up on their property. They've seen it
<v Speaker 2>multiple times. They had to get bands of people to
<v Speaker 2>come in stand on top of the house, the farmhouse
<v Speaker 2>and wait for that thing to show up. They had
<v Speaker 2>shoot at it with all kinds of shotguns, rifles, but
<v Speaker 2>never once hit it. Never once. They said it would
<v Speaker 2>come and stand up under there. They had a barn there,
<v Speaker 2>they had a huge light that set out on the
<v Speaker 2>front of it, and said this thing would purposely come
<v Speaker 2>and get up under that light just to scare them
<v Speaker 2>so that they could see. So he would purposely stand
<v Speaker 2>under that light so that they could see him. And
<v Speaker 2>it was the purpose. They said. This thing would beat
<v Speaker 2>on their doors and I think the windows and everything
<v Speaker 2>on the outside. It got so bad that one night
<v Speaker 2>Barton's dad took his wife and these all of these children,
<v Speaker 2>they all got and this thing was beaten on the
<v Speaker 2>doors on the outside, and they thought it was going
<v Speaker 2>to make its way in. They had a huge barrel
<v Speaker 2>of kerosene in that room where they were, and Barton's
<v Speaker 2>dad had a shotgun, and this thing was so violent
<v Speaker 2>with hitting the door they thought it was actually gonna
<v Speaker 2>make it through. And Barton's dad told him. He says,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell every one of you something. He says,
<v Speaker 2>you need to hear me now, He said, if that
<v Speaker 2>thing breaks through that door, he says, I'm gonna turn
<v Speaker 2>this big, huge tank of kerosene over and I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>fire that gun, and I'm gonna I'm gonna take all
<v Speaker 2>of us up and smoke, he says, because I can't
<v Speaker 2>live with the fact that that thing would come in.
<v Speaker 2>It's still one of you, and I've never see you again,
<v Speaker 2>he says, So it's better. And they were very were
<v Speaker 2>they were very religious people. He said, it's better that
<v Speaker 2>we all die together and just go to heaven together
<v Speaker 2>than for anything like this to happen and me not
<v Speaker 2>see one of you. He says, I couldn't live with myself.
<v Speaker 2>And they said it was the scariest night of the
<v Speaker 2>whole year. Of course, they had many scary nights, but
<v Speaker 2>that one it brought them to that point to where
<v Speaker 2>they they honestly was I don't want to use the
<v Speaker 2>word suicidal, but meaning that they were ready to do
<v Speaker 2>what they had to do to preserve what they have.
<v Speaker 2>And for Barton's dad to say that he just never
<v Speaker 2>wanted to live with himself if that thing had came
<v Speaker 2>in and took one of the children and ran, he said,
<v Speaker 2>he brother took the whole family out, And I just
<v Speaker 2>I had tried to fathom and think about that. I thought,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I said, I don't know what I
<v Speaker 2>would have done or thought had I been through something
<v Speaker 2>like that. But yeah, for a full year they had
<v Speaker 2>to they were forced by this thing to move off
<v Speaker 2>the property and they had to go somewhere else and live.
<v Speaker 2>They said, the thing would come in the yard every
<v Speaker 2>single night and yell and you know, as we talked
<v Speaker 2>about that guttural type of sound like a woman being killed,
<v Speaker 2>and it was horrifying, he said, just absolutely horrifying. And
<v Speaker 2>I you know, and and that me and him shared
<v Speaker 2>our stories, he said, Oh my god. He says our
<v Speaker 2>stories are totally obviously, he said, but that don't mean
<v Speaker 2>nothing to me, he said, because I know that there
<v Speaker 2>it's good, there's bad. That he said, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know why what happened to us? He said, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if when we moved there, if we moved
<v Speaker 2>into its territory and it just didn't like it, he said,
<v Speaker 2>But I will tell you one thing for sure, He said,
<v Speaker 2>we found so many dead animals consistently. He said. Our
<v Speaker 2>dogs is everything. He said, we we It was nothing
<v Speaker 2>to come out of our front door. He said, in
<v Speaker 2>the first thought you had was where am I going
<v Speaker 2>to find my dog? Or where am I gonna find
<v Speaker 2>my gold or whatever? They had their chickens, Where am
<v Speaker 2>I going to find it? Piled up with blood everywhere?
<v Speaker 2>And it he said, it was just horrifying. Again, me
<v Speaker 2>and him had two totally opposite stories, but we didn't
<v Speaker 2>live very far from each other. The only thing divided
<v Speaker 2>us was the Green River. Again. I never met him,
<v Speaker 2>never knew about him, not even his story. As famous
<v Speaker 2>as the story was, but going back and thinking I
<v Speaker 2>was only seven years old, we didn't even get a newspaper.
<v Speaker 2>We didn't have a TV, like I said, up until
<v Speaker 2>seven or however many years down the road from that
<v Speaker 2>time of my incident, so you know, there just was
<v Speaker 2>no communication. And even the yeends got older. I never
<v Speaker 2>couldn't understand why after all these years, up until I'm,
<v Speaker 2>you know, fifty six, fifty seven year old, before I
<v Speaker 2>come to find out this man lived that close and
<v Speaker 2>he's this famous because of that story, and yet I've
<v Speaker 2>never heard that story. The thing that got me one
<v Speaker 2>day was a scene a headline that said Spotsville Monster.
<v Speaker 2>I said, Spotsville, I said, I don't wonder what state
<v Speaker 2>they're calling. When they said Kentucky, I said, oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>I said, I got to see what this is. And
<v Speaker 2>that's when I went to pursuing that, and I went
<v Speaker 2>to his channel and left a message on his YouTube account.
<v Speaker 2>I sort of shared just a little bit and told
<v Speaker 2>him about who I was and when he's seen on
<v Speaker 2>the map, I won't leave that address with just anybody,
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want people going down there and messing
<v Speaker 2>with innocent people that's probably on that property now it
<v Speaker 2>would be right to nobody. But but when he I
<v Speaker 2>shared it with him, though, and he when he's seen
<v Speaker 2>that address, he said, brother, he said, me and you
<v Speaker 2>were right across the river from each I said, I
<v Speaker 2>know we were, And he says, just a miracle that
<v Speaker 2>we're just hearing after all these years these stories between us,
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah it is, but you know, weird things
<v Speaker 2>happen in life.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, And what are the odds someone
<v Speaker 1>right across the river is having experiences as well, and
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know it at the time. That kind of
<v Speaker 1>happened with me with my encounters. I got on the
<v Speaker 1>bf RO and looked to see if there are any
<v Speaker 1>encounters in Missouri, and when I seen some reports five
<v Speaker 1>minutes down the road, that really blew my mind. And
<v Speaker 1>after my encounters, somebody that lives on that specific road
<v Speaker 1>put up like a big foot cutout, and like, what
<v Speaker 1>are the chances of that? And I knew that somewhere
<v Speaker 1>in the distance somebody was having the same experiences as myself.
<v Speaker 1>I still don't know, but I wonder about that. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like a terrifying experience that they had across
<v Speaker 1>the river. And it really does make you wonder if
<v Speaker 1>it was the same clan, and if they did something wrong,
<v Speaker 1>something that ticked them off. And he said, maybe they
<v Speaker 1>moved into their territory. It very well could be. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I hope I never have experiences like the.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I you know, I can't imagine it now.
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, now remembering in the first of the
<v Speaker 2>story here when we started, when I had said, you know,
<v Speaker 2>my bedroom in my grandma and Grandpa's house was the
<v Speaker 2>bedroom window faced the actual road that was in front
<v Speaker 2>of the property, which when you looked on the other
<v Speaker 2>side of that road, there was a little bit of
<v Speaker 2>a corn field, and they didn't grow corn there all
<v Speaker 2>the time. I think it was because it flooded at
<v Speaker 2>times and they just seemed they couldn't do a whole
<v Speaker 2>lot with it. But but then you had the Green
<v Speaker 2>River there, and you know, like I said, I was
<v Speaker 2>so close, We lived so close to that that you know,
<v Speaker 2>I when when there was no leaves on the trees
<v Speaker 2>and it was visible, the barges would come through, and
<v Speaker 2>I mean they would see me grab my hand and
<v Speaker 2>as a child hanging out the window and pulling pulling
<v Speaker 2>down like you know, honk your horner, and they never
<v Speaker 2>they never missed, and they remembered me. Sometimes they didn't
<v Speaker 2>to come through and and they'd see me and I
<v Speaker 2>didn't even have to do that. They got so used
<v Speaker 2>to it where they remembered me. And but now talking
<v Speaker 2>about that part of it, though, U being right there
<v Speaker 2>on that Green River. Like I said, that was my
<v Speaker 2>first I don't know, you won't call it experience or encounter,
<v Speaker 2>but that's when I did start seeing movement of some
<v Speaker 2>sort of bipedial creature that was very huge. It did
<v Speaker 2>not move like anything I'd ever seen. It was quick.
<v Speaker 2>That thing was in and out. Again, I don't know
<v Speaker 2>anything when it comes to talking about these bigfoot, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they If they you know, fish by
<v Speaker 2>reaching her hands in water for something, you know, like
<v Speaker 2>these fish and eat them. I mean, the thing I've
<v Speaker 2>always seen is that they do tend to grab a
<v Speaker 2>lot of the livestock or deer or whatever off of properties.
<v Speaker 2>But have I ever heard of them actually fishing.
<v Speaker 1>No?
<v Speaker 2>Do I believe they will? Yes, I do. And I
<v Speaker 2>wondered why they used that Green River route to travel
<v Speaker 2>because it was way way more than any five or
<v Speaker 2>six or seven times I had seen this. It was
<v Speaker 2>a lot because I would see this thing. It usually
<v Speaker 2>was late in the evening when I would see this
<v Speaker 2>thing traveling. It's like it had it had its territory.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's almost like it had a specific time
<v Speaker 2>that it would go through, almost like deer, you know,
<v Speaker 2>dear'll they have, I'd forget that. I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>if it's five years, I mean five square miles or
<v Speaker 2>one square mile, but usually deer will stay within a
<v Speaker 2>square mile of a certain territory, and they'll usually run
<v Speaker 2>that same route, and usually about the same time of
<v Speaker 2>the day. You can catch them and that route if
<v Speaker 2>you were to be still and watch and pay attention
<v Speaker 2>to their to their schedule. And that is sort of
<v Speaker 2>what I noticed with that, at least that one bigfoot,
<v Speaker 2>or it might have been more than one, but I
<v Speaker 2>always seen one at a time, though I never seen
<v Speaker 2>more than one at once, But this thing always seemed
<v Speaker 2>to travel along that river and usually kind of more
<v Speaker 2>and less around the same time in the evening every day.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to tell you it was around the
<v Speaker 2>very same minute or second. I mean, i'd say within
<v Speaker 2>a couple hour range, you know, guessing you know, from
<v Speaker 2>four to six pm in the evening. And back then,
<v Speaker 2>you know, we had very good daylight at that out
<v Speaker 2>now like here in Chicago, until they changed the time
<v Speaker 2>you start getting around that time, it's very dark when
<v Speaker 2>it starts getting around that time. But then we had
<v Speaker 2>very good daylight. So yeah, no, they're they traveled that river.
<v Speaker 2>They really did, and uh Barton had told me himself
<v Speaker 2>that they did travel that river a lot. He said,
<v Speaker 2>that's where they seen a lot of action. I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to leave your I don't want to leave your
<v Speaker 2>listeners hanging. But I want to say, forgive me. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>if you want to have me back on your show,
<v Speaker 2>I think I might come back in. I want to
<v Speaker 2>I'm wanna pray over it, and I want to think
<v Speaker 2>on it. But anybody that could tell you what I'm
<v Speaker 2>about to tell you that knows. I don't know why
<v Speaker 2>this is, but in some areas, a lot of actually
<v Speaker 2>a lot of areas of the world, we don't know
<v Speaker 2>why this is. But a lot of times when you
<v Speaker 2>talk about people that has had sightings of UFOs for
<v Speaker 2>this extraterrestrial world for some reason, when you go to
<v Speaker 2>areas where there's a lot of activity with Bigfoot, there's
<v Speaker 2>usually a lot of sightings of the other that will
<v Speaker 2>happen in those general areas at times. Now, that's not
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent of everybody's experience or story. Now I'm again,
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm gonna end up leaving your people hanging. Please
<v Speaker 2>forgive me. I must say every one of you forgive me.
<v Speaker 2>You gotta give me a little time, because I've never
<v Speaker 2>broke this story. But I'll just I'm gonna just go
<v Speaker 2>to the surface. That's it. But me and me in
<v Speaker 2>a conversation, mister Nunneley Barton Lundley had had one thing
<v Speaker 2>you brought up to me. Yeah, is that there was
<v Speaker 2>a lot of ufo citing that was known to have
<v Speaker 2>come up out of that Green river. Now notice what
<v Speaker 2>I said. They were seen coming up out from under
<v Speaker 2>the river, and then they would take off like blighting.
<v Speaker 2>I don't talk about this story because I've just got
<v Speaker 2>very very deep personal beliefs and reasons for what I'm
<v Speaker 2>saying here. And until I naturally get myself comfortable enough
<v Speaker 2>to do this, I have to leave it to where
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take it. But I will tell you this, I,
<v Speaker 2>in the same year Hm with the big Foot encounters,
<v Speaker 2>had a very powerful encounter with the UFO that touched
<v Speaker 2>down in that same Now watch what I'm telling you.
<v Speaker 2>That touched down by that pond or I almost drounded.
<v Speaker 2>Also wasn't very far from where that horse threw me.
<v Speaker 2>I had a very powerful encounter one night with the
<v Speaker 2>Ufo and that area in the middle of the night.
<v Speaker 2>As young as I was, there was that we had
<v Speaker 2>had some mean this is what scared my grandfather. He
<v Speaker 2>thought the government was gonna come on our property and
<v Speaker 2>take us away or whatever. He was scared that we're
<v Speaker 2>gonna come get me because he told us, he said,
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of your life, never speak about what
<v Speaker 2>we've seen here. There were several times at night. I
<v Speaker 2>don't mean something like every day or every week. No,
<v Speaker 2>I might, Miguel, I've got a guess on this, but
<v Speaker 2>I would almost bet you that my guess is going
<v Speaker 2>to be close. I would say four to five encounters
<v Speaker 2>for sure, where there was something that would show up
<v Speaker 2>in the very dead middle of the night. It never
<v Speaker 2>showed up in the day, would hover up over our farmhouse.
<v Speaker 2>He usually was about two three o'clock in the morning.
<v Speaker 2>Don't ask me why that time. The lights was so overwhelming.
<v Speaker 2>It lit up every window, every door, everything on the farmhouse.
<v Speaker 2>The power surge of this thing was overwhelming. You could
<v Speaker 2>tell there was something that was bigger than you and
<v Speaker 2>life itself that would set there. For it didn't stay long,
<v Speaker 2>but it would come, would set It would scare every
<v Speaker 2>one of us in the house, almost to the point
<v Speaker 2>it caused you to want to run and hide in
<v Speaker 2>a closet, under a bed, wherever you were. You were
<v Speaker 2>looking for something to take cover. Because I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to say it was I don't know how to say this.
<v Speaker 2>It's like the sound or the vibration. I think the
<v Speaker 2>vibrations more of a word I want to use, because
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't hear like a sound sound, but the vibration,
<v Speaker 2>the power of this thing that was coming out of
<v Speaker 2>it when it would hover or sit. And this is
<v Speaker 2>the thing we did not get to see the physical
<v Speaker 2>part of this. All I can tell you is what
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you here is that something it was huge,
<v Speaker 2>and I mean very huge. What's set up on over
<v Speaker 2>the top of the house and hover We would get
<v Speaker 2>the powerful lights off of it that when M and
<v Speaker 2>A I mean every window it did. It did not
<v Speaker 2>miss one crack or crevice in that house. If you'd
<v Speaker 2>if you'd had a hole in that roof. It showed
<v Speaker 2>it that at that time, that's how powerful this lighting was.
<v Speaker 2>This thing happened in the same year I had my
<v Speaker 2>encounter with sasquatch. Now I'm gonna take this to this
<v Speaker 2>last place here and if for some reason, Miguel, you
<v Speaker 2>want to invite me back on and maybe talk more
<v Speaker 2>about it whatever I mean, I don't know how much
<v Speaker 2>more I can really give. But this is what happened.
<v Speaker 2>I noticed right after my encounter with Sasquatch. Again, I
<v Speaker 2>think that this opened up a portal or some sort
<v Speaker 2>of a dimension to me that day that I still
<v Speaker 2>the day and not understand. But right after my encounter,
<v Speaker 2>I started having all of these weird dreams. I could
<v Speaker 2>hear something I don't know what that was that would
<v Speaker 2>call my voice out in the middle of the night
<v Speaker 2>while I was asleep and would speak to me. It
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say much, it would just call my name out. Well,
<v Speaker 2>one night, at my young age, all I can remember
<v Speaker 2>is my name was called out. This voice told me
<v Speaker 2>I was and I will tell you, and I know
<v Speaker 2>this to be facts. I became under a very deep
<v Speaker 2>hip natic state. The voice spoke to me in my
<v Speaker 2>dream state. And then when I come out of the
<v Speaker 2>dream state to the waking state, I was still though
<v Speaker 2>in this hypnotic state, but yet I can clearly remember
<v Speaker 2>the commands and the voice and this thing spoke to
<v Speaker 2>me and say get up out of your bed, walk
<v Speaker 2>back into the field and go next to the pond
<v Speaker 2>and stand there, and we will meet with you. Okay, Miguel,
<v Speaker 2>this is as far as I'm gonna take it. But
<v Speaker 2>my grand father I had a bit of a memory
<v Speaker 2>loss at that point. For a moment, my grandfather, grandmother,
<v Speaker 2>my uncle went crazy. They noticed I was missing out
<v Speaker 2>of my bed. Man brother. They were not my grandfather,
<v Speaker 2>because I've told you only seen tears out of his
<v Speaker 2>eyes once, but my grandmother and my uncle was crying
<v Speaker 2>like none other. They had flashlights out in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of the night, looking trying to figure out where I
<v Speaker 2>went to. They they thought somebody came to the window
<v Speaker 2>and stole me or something. My grandfather, he said, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know why. He said, He's not in the corn crib.
<v Speaker 2>He's not over there where we keep the pigs. He's
<v Speaker 2>not over there anywhere. He said, I've got this feeling
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know why. He said, we need to
<v Speaker 2>go back towards the place. I really feel the man
<v Speaker 2>had an intuition. I feel like something smoke to him
<v Speaker 2>in a way. He probably didn't know. They went back
<v Speaker 2>into that field and what they found was me in
<v Speaker 2>a hypnotic state with my eyes focused into the air.
<v Speaker 2>Now this where all pause, and well, I don't know
<v Speaker 2>about pause, but kind of in the story, I one percent.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't want to hear the rest of it.
<v Speaker 2>I sing, I sing an absolute ufo, setting on the
<v Speaker 2>ground beside the pond where I was told to go.
<v Speaker 2>But the rest of that, what happened? What were they wanting?
<v Speaker 2>What did they do, Miguel, I don't know, but I
<v Speaker 2>seen it, and by the time my grandparents and them
<v Speaker 2>got there, it was gone. They seen me in this
<v Speaker 2>hypnotic state when my eyes focused into the air, and
<v Speaker 2>they said that they didn't know what to think or
<v Speaker 2>what to do. They were so scared, and they said
<v Speaker 2>that I literally was frozen in this position. They tried
<v Speaker 2>talking to me, they tried everything, shaken, not shaken in
<v Speaker 2>a bad way, trying to shake me a little bit,
<v Speaker 2>trying to get me to come to my senses, and
<v Speaker 2>said that my grandfather grabbed me put me up on
<v Speaker 2>his shoulder so that they could get me out of there. Said,
<v Speaker 2>but I am in that same position with my eyes
<v Speaker 2>focused up into the air until they actually got me
<v Speaker 2>back to the house. And that's a pretty good little
<v Speaker 2>walk and said, then I started snapping out of it.
<v Speaker 2>My grandfather sat down with me from the family. He said,
<v Speaker 2>you are to never, never, never, as long as we
<v Speaker 2>live as a family, ever mentioned this story to no one.
<v Speaker 2>He said, if you do, he said.
<v Speaker 7>I I couldn't live with the fact that they, the
<v Speaker 7>government or somebody would come here and take you away
<v Speaker 7>from us and we'd never see you again.
<v Speaker 2>He said, we are, He said, this is a rule.
<v Speaker 2>He says, I will be very upset. He says, I
<v Speaker 2>will get not violent, but nasty, and I'll pull a
<v Speaker 2>belt out. And now he says, I will wear you
<v Speaker 2>out to the point you'll wish you never open your
<v Speaker 2>mouth ever. And I tell you something, When I seen
<v Speaker 2>the look of my granddaddy's eyes that day, I knew
<v Speaker 2>you Petter never opened indy getting into adult area. I
<v Speaker 2>knew as long as that man lived, I had never
<v Speaker 2>better open my mouth. He was a very serious man.
<v Speaker 2>And if he told you he was going to do something,
<v Speaker 2>you trust me it was as good as money in
<v Speaker 2>the bank. That was not a man that lied. It
<v Speaker 2>was not a man that returned back on his word
<v Speaker 2>when he told you something. He was one of the
<v Speaker 2>older ones that they believe back in the day, if
<v Speaker 2>they went to a bank, they didn't have to sign papers.
<v Speaker 2>I mean we're talking about way back they made a
<v Speaker 2>verbal agreement, and that verbal agreement was meant. The man
<v Speaker 2>never did do many loans back ever that I ever knew.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm telling you the banks trusted him so well
<v Speaker 2>that he could make a verbal agreement with any bank,
<v Speaker 2>and they trusted him that well. And I knew that
<v Speaker 2>day when that man told me that and sat with
<v Speaker 2>me and the family. Don't you ever ever, he said,
<v Speaker 2>forget this ever happened, get it out of your head,
<v Speaker 2>do what you got to do. But I don't any
<v Speaker 2>want it mentioned in our envy and our family talk.
<v Speaker 2>Seven if it's just us, he said, I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to know nothing about it. I don't want to know nothing,
<v Speaker 2>he said, because if I'm ever approached and asked, he says,
<v Speaker 2>I can be truthful and say I know nothing, because
<v Speaker 2>if you tell me nothing, then I can't lie. And
<v Speaker 2>that conversation laid there from that day for now. Miguel, sorry,
<v Speaker 2>I can't go much further than that.
<v Speaker 6>Did you pretty much tell me everything?
<v Speaker 2>There was more, but that part. I don't even think
<v Speaker 2>I would tell anyone at this hour.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you can tell me that, Yeah, I could, if
<v Speaker 1>you want to, I could, yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 2>All fair, Absolutely, I'll share with you all fair.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And I feel the same where I had my encounters,
<v Speaker 1>there was strange UFOs floating over the property. Not the
<v Speaker 1>same day that I encountered Bigfoot or had experiences, but
<v Speaker 1>in that same timeframe, the same area. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if there's a connection, but I feel like these things
<v Speaker 1>are coming in and out of portals, and we both
<v Speaker 1>had a skinwalker ranch situation happening on the property.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, well both that. Yeah, I don't you know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know truthfully if these entities are you know,
<v Speaker 2>connected and work for the you know, working the same
<v Speaker 2>you know, assisting each other or what that. I can't
<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't have no wisdom on that. I just
<v Speaker 2>know that I've heard over and over from documentaries or
<v Speaker 2>whatever that a lot of people have said they believe
<v Speaker 2>that these two things kind of run hand in hand,
<v Speaker 2>that usually you'll see them in the same area or
<v Speaker 2>manifestations in the same area. Talking about orbs, I didn't
<v Speaker 2>think about that, brother. I'll give this as the last
<v Speaker 2>when I seen what I considered that UFO. There was
<v Speaker 2>thousands and thousands of orbs all around that craft, out
<v Speaker 2>in the field, over the water, everywhere. I do not
<v Speaker 2>know what that is. It's a phenomenon I can't even understand. Listen,
<v Speaker 2>I've got pictures to prove to you that in my
<v Speaker 2>day now of ministry, those orbs show up in pictures
<v Speaker 2>while I'm ministering to people. I've got pictures of this,
<v Speaker 2>and people are like, well, that's something off with the
<v Speaker 2>camera lens or this or that. I said, Okay, I'll
<v Speaker 2>let you think what you want, and I think that
<v Speaker 2>you believe what you want. But I've had people professionals
<v Speaker 2>that looked at this he said that is is not AI,
<v Speaker 2>because you you know, this was way way before AI
<v Speaker 2>ever existed. He said. I looked at that thing and
<v Speaker 2>opened it up and defined it. He said, brother, he said,
<v Speaker 2>there's cold. There's some type of cold embedded inside those orbs.
<v Speaker 2>He said, you got some of the best picture I
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. He said, but what is it? I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>he said, even what the highest tech stuff I've got,
<v Speaker 2>he said, I still could not understand what was embedded
<v Speaker 2>in there. He said it looked like some sort of
<v Speaker 2>cold or something. He said, it's just weird, and I said,
<v Speaker 2>yeah no, and I bear shut up from her.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is really interesting. The orbs are also shape
<v Speaker 1>associated with cryptidactivity, so there's another connection.
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, we're running out of time. Ray.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you for contacting me and sharing all these
<v Speaker 1>experiences and encounters with me on the channel, and they're
<v Speaker 1>truly phenomenal. And I definitely believe you like you're you're
<v Speaker 1>Asrael as they get.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you me, Gil, and you know, and again you
<v Speaker 2>know I'm you know, I never try to make himboddy.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to making by believing thing. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody's got their opinions on anything. Again, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not here to make anyone a believer, and I always
<v Speaker 2>just simply here to tell a story. But it is
<v Speaker 2>the whole truth of nothing but the truth. And I
<v Speaker 2>am a minister of God and one thing I do
<v Speaker 2>not believe in this dishonesty or straight up lying to people.
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like there's many other lies a person
<v Speaker 2>could tell to get attention about something besides something like this.
<v Speaker 2>So thank you me, Gil so much for having me
<v Speaker 2>on your show. I hope that you you get some
<v Speaker 2>good feedback. I hope that this helps your channel. I'll
<v Speaker 2>do anything I can to help you, brother, because you're genuine,
<v Speaker 2>You're down to earth, and you are one hundred percent
<v Speaker 2>the real deal. Thank you for having me on today.
<v Speaker 6>I appreciate you and thank you for everything that you did.
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. God bless you. You take good care of yourself.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, God bless you, and you take care right, okay, alrighty,
<v Speaker 1>all right, bye, all right, Ray, thank you very much
<v Speaker 1>for sharing your bigfoot encounters and experiences with me here
<v Speaker 1>on Sasquatch theory, and they were truly amazing. The female
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch definitely had love and compassion, and she was very
<v Speaker 1>concerned about you. It makes me feel like she had
<v Speaker 1>been watching you for quite some time, and I think
<v Speaker 1>she should become accustomed.
<v Speaker 6>To you, like she knew who you.
<v Speaker 1>You were, and she had watched you grow up on
<v Speaker 1>that farm, and she wasn't going to stand by and
<v Speaker 1>watch something bad.
<v Speaker 6>Happen to you.
<v Speaker 1>And maybe she lost the little one when a long
<v Speaker 1>time ago, and you were kind of her kid from
<v Speaker 1>a distance, and yeah, that that's amazing. The spacing between
<v Speaker 1>the toes is very interesting. I think Jeff Meldrum, if
<v Speaker 1>he was still around, he would have found that detail
<v Speaker 1>to be very, very fascinating. And I feel like that's
<v Speaker 1>so they can grab onto trees with their feet or
<v Speaker 1>possibly an injury. I'm not sure, but Jeff Meldrum definitely
<v Speaker 1>would have would have had a lot to say about that.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the tracks that were found in the hog pen,
<v Speaker 1>that that is spooky. These things started stealing hogs, and
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's what happened. That's what happened across the river
<v Speaker 1>to that family. Maybe they were stealing their animals and
<v Speaker 1>they shot at these things. And from what you told me,
<v Speaker 1>they were taking the dogs and killing the livestock. So
<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe there's more to that story. And
<v Speaker 1>you had the twist at the that really got me.
<v Speaker 1>This UFO at the pond and you found yourself at
<v Speaker 1>the pond the same spot where you got saved by sasquatch.
<v Speaker 1>That is definitely interesting. And the UFOs were hovering over
<v Speaker 1>the house and the strange lights that the UFOs were
<v Speaker 1>emitting that is weird. And you said there were a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of ords. That's strange because when I experienced bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>activity a lot of times I'm seeing these orbs, I
<v Speaker 1>can't help but feel that there is a connection. I've
<v Speaker 1>experienced the same thing. I've had a gray alien in
<v Speaker 1>my room when I was a teenager, and that same
<v Speaker 1>property I ended up having Bigfoot experiences, And I don't
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a coincidence.
<v Speaker 6>I really don't.
<v Speaker 1>But I know a lot of people will be skeptical.
<v Speaker 1>But people have done research on this at the Skinwalker
<v Speaker 1>Ranch and many other people have talked about it. Why
<v Speaker 1>are they testing humans? What are the experiments for? They
<v Speaker 1>obviously are creating something, So keep an open mind. If
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot exists, so do aliens.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, get used to it.
<v Speaker 1>If you have a bigfoot encounter you would like to
<v Speaker 1>share with me here on Sasquatch Theory, feel free to
<v Speaker 1>reach out some time at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com.
<v Speaker 1>With all that being said, you guys be safe out
<v Speaker 1>in the woods.