Rayman is in a New Game, with NFTs

<v Speaker 1>Don't be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do
<v Speaker 1>this for December twentieth, twenty twenty four. For the next
<v Speaker 1>hour or so, let me help you sort through the
<v Speaker 1>world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live with me
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Grubb. Today everyone is off for the year, so
<v Speaker 1>welcome to the last dregs day of twenty twenty four.
<v Speaker 1>But first please join me and welcome you. Today's co
<v Speaker 1>host the Game Mess Mornings. It's Eric van Allen, Eric
<v Speaker 1>Harran Lehen.
<v Speaker 2>I love to come in and just clean up, you know,
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year, you know whatever.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we needed somebody to come in and help
<v Speaker 1>us out here. Yeah, yeah, not much happening. I ended
<v Speaker 1>up finding some new stories. We'll have plenty to talk about,
<v Speaker 1>but we'll wrap up the year here. This is the
<v Speaker 1>last Game Mess Mornings of twenty twenty four. We'll be
<v Speaker 1>off for the next two weeks. We'll probably be back
<v Speaker 1>on everyone's favorite holiday, January sixth, so yeah, that's uh.
<v Speaker 1>I believe that'll be the first day back we'll see.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, gmm, garbage time. Welcome to it. It's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a good one.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Eric, how are you doing I'm doing alright,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's the holidays, it's the end of
<v Speaker 2>the year. Just kind of getting through it and doing
<v Speaker 2>whatever little work I can here and there. But because
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, the weird way the games are nowadays,
<v Speaker 2>there's not really a stoppage to work at all. It's
<v Speaker 2>just all going all the time.
<v Speaker 1>So yep, it's a kind of relentless in a lot
<v Speaker 1>of ways. That's a good thing. But yeah, I'm looking
<v Speaker 1>forward to this little break here and then getting things
<v Speaker 1>going in twenty twenty five. But yeah, and you Act
<v Speaker 1>the Blood Guide, you guys that are kind of amping
<v Speaker 1>that up. I mean that God. You guys have been
<v Speaker 1>doing that for a while now. I know you've been
<v Speaker 1>You've been a full member of Acts the Blood God
<v Speaker 1>for years now, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to say I joined around twenty twenty
<v Speaker 2>one or two maybe obviously a podcast that has a
<v Speaker 2>long legacy going back through Active Time Babble and stuff
<v Speaker 2>like that, but primarily started by Kat Bailey and Naughtie Oxford.
<v Speaker 2>Three of us are now a drift in the sea
<v Speaker 2>of the games industry, unmored as we are, so yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we're really looking to bump the thing up in the
<v Speaker 2>new year, and also like promo it because I think
<v Speaker 2>a lot of RPG sickos know who we are, but
<v Speaker 2>there's always room for more folks to know who we are.
<v Speaker 2>So we're doing a lot more streams in the new year.
<v Speaker 2>We're doing more content, more varied content in the new
<v Speaker 2>year as well. We have some crazy wild plans and
<v Speaker 2>ambitions for what this thing can be now that all
<v Speaker 2>of us don't have to treat it as like a
<v Speaker 2>part time job, but it can be a little bit
<v Speaker 2>more of our centered job. So yeah, looking forward to it.
<v Speaker 1>Excellent, And I mean in these days, Scott, everything's in RPG.
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys find ways to kind of talk about
<v Speaker 1>more than ever or are you happy to stay foot
<v Speaker 1>focused on what people traditionally consider to be an RPG.
<v Speaker 3>I mean the literally.
<v Speaker 2>In our discord, we have a running gag about resetting
<v Speaker 2>the clock every time someone asks what an RPG is,
<v Speaker 2>because everything is kind of an RPG nowadays. I mean
<v Speaker 2>Assassin's Creed I feel like, was one of the big
<v Speaker 2>ones that suddenly this game that used to be kind
<v Speaker 2>of an action stealth, you know, third person type game,
<v Speaker 2>now suddenly has numbers and equipment and things you do,
<v Speaker 2>and you can add fire elemental attacks to your sick
<v Speaker 2>assassins weapons and things like that. A God of War
<v Speaker 2>did that, Like everything is an RPG in some ways,
<v Speaker 2>you could make an argument that The Last of Us
<v Speaker 2>is an RPG if you wanted to, like modding your gun,
<v Speaker 2>is that not just buffing your party? So now, of
<v Speaker 2>course that that will drive some people at the wall,
<v Speaker 2>but it's fun to experiment with and it gives us
<v Speaker 2>some room to talk about some wider stuff. We just
<v Speaker 2>did a we have a Pantheon of the Blood God,
<v Speaker 2>which is a kind of a game club we do
<v Speaker 2>where we play through a game as a community and
<v Speaker 2>then vote on whether it belongs in the pantheon of
<v Speaker 2>all time great RPGs. And we just got done doing
<v Speaker 2>a Dragon Guard, which, let me tell you that is
<v Speaker 2>a contentious game on whether or not it is a
<v Speaker 2>good video game, but it's definitely a Muso pans or
<v Speaker 2>dragoon type game that has RPG stuff in there somewhere.
<v Speaker 2>It's floating around in the mix.
<v Speaker 1>Is Dragon Guard the one that turns into near in
<v Speaker 1>some ways?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it was essentially Yoko Tarro and crew at
<v Speaker 2>Kavia made Dragging Guard one, Yoko Taro took the bench
<v Speaker 2>for two because of how frustrating it was to make one,
<v Speaker 2>and then Dragon Guard three happens, and then I forget
<v Speaker 2>the actual story of how Near comes about, but Near
<v Speaker 2>is a spinoff of the joke ending. It's like if
<v Speaker 2>someone took the dog ending from Silent Hill too and
<v Speaker 2>was like, let's make a sequel based on this.
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So it kind of rules in that way, and it's
<v Speaker 2>kind of fascinating, but it is a really difficult game
<v Speaker 2>to go back to in the year twenty twenty four.
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you I can imagine for sure. All right, Soax,
<v Speaker 1>the blood got going strong. We'll be even stronger at
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. I'm excited for you guys to be
<v Speaker 1>able to focus on it even more. It's already a
<v Speaker 1>very good show, so looking forward to that. All right,
<v Speaker 1>let's explain what we do here most weekdays, I, Jeff Grubb,
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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot to get into, so let's start
<v Speaker 1>the morning mess with. Xbox is reportedly developing a cross
<v Speaker 1>platform user interface. This is from Tom Ivan at VGC.
<v Speaker 1>Let's read the story. Microsoft is reportedly working on a
<v Speaker 1>new cross platform user interface. That's according to a Windows
<v Speaker 1>Central report, which also claims that exclusive Xbox console games
<v Speaker 1>will be the exception rather than the rule going forward.
<v Speaker 1>Sources tell us that Microsoft is also working on a
<v Speaker 1>set of in game APIs and user interface features called
<v Speaker 1>Project Rainway, which is some form of cross platform Xbox
<v Speaker 1>Guide menu. The report claims Microsoft has been inspired by
<v Speaker 1>the in game battle dot Net social features seen in Hearthstone,
<v Speaker 1>Diablo for and World of Warcraft, which lets you share
<v Speaker 1>and communicate cross platform. This means that for games running
<v Speaker 1>on other platforms from Xbox, they will still have an
<v Speaker 1>Xbox Flavor and an in game Xbox system, maybe even
<v Speaker 1>cloud saves. Last week, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella reiterated that
<v Speaker 1>the company's gaming strategy going forward is centered on allowing
<v Speaker 1>players to enjoy Xbox on all devices. Of course, we've
<v Speaker 1>seen that everything's at Xbox Camp, and so this makes
<v Speaker 1>sense to a certain degree, right Eric, where it's like
<v Speaker 1>they want to say everything's an Xbox, but you sort
<v Speaker 1>of lose the platform flavor if you are just a
<v Speaker 1>game on a shelf that runs on anything. And so
<v Speaker 1>if they're trying to make it feel still feel like
<v Speaker 1>you are inside of a continued, contiguous ecosystem, they probably
<v Speaker 1>do need something like this. And at the same time
<v Speaker 1>this can probably help something like when these games are
<v Speaker 1>running on a handheld PC where the you know, the
<v Speaker 1>interface on there is pretty bad, so you want to
<v Speaker 1>stay out of Windows as much as possible. You could
<v Speaker 1>just use this Xbox interface. So it could have plenty
<v Speaker 1>of positive ramifications for what they're trying to do.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, it's there are two wolves inside Xbox, you know,
<v Speaker 2>the desire to want to like have these big exclusives
<v Speaker 2>and have a giant umbrella under which there are so
<v Speaker 2>many studios pumping out all these games. Then also like
<v Speaker 2>the Xboxes everywhere, the Xbox is part of all the
<v Speaker 2>Xbox as Windows drive that I think has kind of
<v Speaker 2>been tugging at the heart of Xbox for a while now,
<v Speaker 2>and yet to some extent, I was talking to somebody
<v Speaker 2>about this recently. I haven't bought an Xbox yet this generation,
<v Speaker 2>even as somebody who like played a lot on the Xbox,
<v Speaker 2>especially the three sixty, because I just have a PC.
<v Speaker 2>Like it's it's essentially the same thing at box point. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>this is an Xbox, but it's it's kind of interesting
<v Speaker 2>to see this this push and pull, especially how it
<v Speaker 2>gets inspired by some of their acquisitions, like Battlenet, seeing
<v Speaker 2>the ghost of battle Neet, which I guess is still
<v Speaker 2>kind of around, but I remember the fond, you know,
<v Speaker 2>days of people getting mad about launchers and things like that,
<v Speaker 2>and Battlenet is still one of those lingering ghosts there.
<v Speaker 2>But Social Features is definitely a strange thing that I
<v Speaker 2>feel weird about this all being tied in. I use
<v Speaker 2>the Xbox App on PC, but I mostly use it
<v Speaker 2>out of ease because it's easy to get to my
<v Speaker 2>game pass stuff. If I go through that, then if
<v Speaker 2>I try to go through other routes. But all of
<v Speaker 2>this is just continuing to be like they want Xbox
<v Speaker 2>everywhere they want, Xbox on everything you can do. Xbox
<v Speaker 2>is not necessarily a platform anymore. Xbox is a virtual platform.
<v Speaker 2>Xbox is the environment and the ecosystem, and this seems
<v Speaker 2>to just be pushing further into that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's I could we see why they're doing this.
<v Speaker 1>The selling Xbox hardware is becoming more difficult for a
<v Speaker 1>variety of reasons. One they, like you mentioned, they sort
<v Speaker 1>of minimize the urgency to get new hardware because you
<v Speaker 1>do feel like you could just play this if you're
<v Speaker 1>on PC. So there's a lot of players who I think,
<v Speaker 1>definitely during Xbox one and PS four adopted PC because
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot more exciting things happening with the
<v Speaker 1>hardware during that generation, and so they just naturally and
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely one of them. I think you are too,
<v Speaker 1>from those sounds of but just continue doing that with
<v Speaker 1>Xbox games going forward. So yeah, obviously that's happening. But
<v Speaker 1>also I just think in general, there is a new
<v Speaker 1>crop of gamers coming up, a larger crop that is
<v Speaker 1>accustomed to just getting games on the hardware they already have,
<v Speaker 1>and so spending hundreds of dollars on bespoke hardware to
<v Speaker 1>play video games is a tough sell, and when they
<v Speaker 1>do sort of get over that hump, it is with
<v Speaker 1>the switch, and to a slightly lesser extent, the PlayStation,
<v Speaker 1>and not that much of a lesser extent. And then
<v Speaker 1>by the time people are considering an Xbox, they're looking
<v Speaker 1>at all this other hardware they've already bought, and they're like, well,
<v Speaker 1>why would I spend that money when I could just,
<v Speaker 1>you know, use that money to buy more games for
<v Speaker 1>the system I already owned. So it's like they need
<v Speaker 1>to do something different. We get that, and the problem
<v Speaker 1>is it's like, all right, so you want to clearly
<v Speaker 1>still feel like a platform, but what does that look
<v Speaker 1>like in the future. And I think they don't really know. Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>no one else really knows, and so they're trying to
<v Speaker 1>sort of pave their own way. And I think at
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, we're probably going to look
<v Speaker 1>back in a few years to be like, remember when
<v Speaker 1>they tried that, And now Microsoft is just the biggest
<v Speaker 1>third party publisher, and of course they are, and that's
<v Speaker 1>how we're going to think of them. Do you think
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be able to bridge this and actually make
<v Speaker 1>something that feels new, and like when you turn on
<v Speaker 1>your TV, you're like, well, I'm gonna play my Xbox
<v Speaker 1>and that's just my TV. Do you think they get there?
<v Speaker 2>That is like the ultimate question is like how does
<v Speaker 2>how do games get to that point? Because that is
<v Speaker 2>the I feel like the pathway has been laid out
<v Speaker 2>with streaming for things like TV series, movies and stuff
<v Speaker 2>like that. We've seen everything go digital, everything go streaming,
<v Speaker 2>everything go. You don't have to like even really necessarily
<v Speaker 2>buy a said top box anymore. A lot of TVs
<v Speaker 2>come with built in capability if you're a Roku or
<v Speaker 2>an Amazon or something like that. And do games ever
<v Speaker 2>get to that point where like the Windows Store, the
<v Speaker 2>Xbox Store is just an app that everybody has on
<v Speaker 2>their television, on Roku, on their Amazon fire stick. Like
<v Speaker 2>that is maybe the end goal and where Microsoft starts
<v Speaker 2>to see the fruits of its labor. But I think
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of questions there because of the
<v Speaker 2>bandwidth costs that that would you know, incur that you
<v Speaker 2>would have to Like, streaming a game is not the
<v Speaker 2>same as streaming a show or streaming you know, music
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. I think there are a lot
<v Speaker 2>of like hardware and infrastructure problems in the way between
<v Speaker 2>here and there. But I do think if it pushes forward,
<v Speaker 2>especially if this is where gaming continues to go, Microsoft
<v Speaker 2>is well situated. It's just the question of, like, so
<v Speaker 2>I have a physical prop with me and that my
<v Speaker 2>Steam deck just sits in front of me on the desk,
<v Speaker 2>but like having access to those games on here is
<v Speaker 2>kind of the end goal, right of having Xbox just
<v Speaker 2>loaded on my Steam deck. And when I load up
<v Speaker 2>my Steam Deck, I'm not just booting up my Steam library.
<v Speaker 2>I'm accessing Xbox. I'm accessing their ecosystem as well, And
<v Speaker 2>I do think they're succeeding a little bit in that.
<v Speaker 2>Right now, I still have game Pass because it's just useful.
<v Speaker 2>It's just good to have. The other day I was like, ooh,
<v Speaker 2>Nine Souls. I've been wanting to play that that's on
<v Speaker 2>game Pass.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Cool, And I don't think about the fact that I've
<v Speaker 2>been paying that sub for a bunch of months in
<v Speaker 2>which I didn't use it. But now I'm excited because
<v Speaker 2>I can play Indiana Jones and Nine Souls. So maybe
<v Speaker 2>this does work. But I think right now they are
<v Speaker 2>just building a lot of goodwill and install base and
<v Speaker 2>saying like when this does kickoff, when the digital arms
<v Speaker 2>race finally begins, then they're going to be pretty well
<v Speaker 2>situated for it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I do wonder how ubiquitous an Xbox overlay becomes
<v Speaker 1>built into games. Do they put this into Call of Duty?
<v Speaker 1>Do they put it into Minecraft? That's stuff I could
<v Speaker 1>see them maybe. I mean, you know, you got to
<v Speaker 1>sign in Dexbox Live on Minecraft already. I think I
<v Speaker 1>haven't done that a while, but I vaguely remember doing
<v Speaker 1>something like that. So them including an updated UI that
<v Speaker 1>just enables you to communicate across the Xbox games makes
<v Speaker 1>some sense.
<v Speaker 3>I just.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how frequently people are going to use
<v Speaker 1>it if it's not the default, and there are gonna
<v Speaker 1>be plenty of games that people play that just will
<v Speaker 1>not be a part of this in the way that like, well,
<v Speaker 1>if you're on Xbox and that you know the system
<v Speaker 1>level you I all the games are a part of that.
<v Speaker 1>So can this work? I don't know about the overlay.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure maybe it'll do some cool functions, but overall,
<v Speaker 1>it's like that's probably gonna be something that people see
<v Speaker 1>and not think much about as far as like being
<v Speaker 1>able to bridge this gap, make it work and become
<v Speaker 1>this virtual platform. As you said, it's it's it's possible,
<v Speaker 1>but it seems like it's a long way away, especially
<v Speaker 1>since really what they need is the Xbox Store that
<v Speaker 1>they keep hinting at on a switch and on a PlayStation,
<v Speaker 1>and until they really get that, it's like it's gonna
<v Speaker 1>be what it's been so far, which is you can
<v Speaker 1>get these games on PC, and when you do that,
<v Speaker 1>you're probably gonna use team anyhow, which they've come to
<v Speaker 1>accept so and you know, they've accepted it on PC
<v Speaker 1>where they have Windows, and it's like, well, if they're
<v Speaker 1>not fighting it there, how hard are they going to
<v Speaker 1>really fight to get these stores onto PlayStation and switch
<v Speaker 1>when they can just put the games out on those
<v Speaker 1>platforms on those stores, pay the thirty percent fee and
<v Speaker 1>call it a day. You know, that's money, and then
<v Speaker 1>they're paying a lot of money to have these developers
<v Speaker 1>that can sell a lot of games. They're probably just
<v Speaker 1>going to take the path of least resistance, and that's
<v Speaker 1>where we're going to end up with them being a
<v Speaker 1>third party platform or you know, a third party publisher
<v Speaker 1>in a few years. I mean, this is also a
<v Speaker 1>follow up to that story from DFC Intelligence. So the
<v Speaker 1>consultant firm that's like, hey, next generation, it will be
<v Speaker 1>a Nintendo's device and one of the other consoles, either
<v Speaker 1>from Sony and Microsoft. And it's like, g I wonder
<v Speaker 1>which one that's going to be. All right, let's move
<v Speaker 1>along here. Ubisoft's a new game has ray Man and
<v Speaker 1>Blood Dragon and NFTs. This is from John Walker at Kotaku.
<v Speaker 1>Remember NFTs. They were this hilariously stupid and obvious scam
<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty one where people and you'll laugh, sold
<v Speaker 1>the rights to JPEGs. Yeah, I know those things you
<v Speaker 1>can right click and make an infinite number of so silly. Anyway,
<v Speaker 1>three years later, three years after all that collapsed, Ubisoft
<v Speaker 1>has launched a game featuring the NFT grift. It's called
<v Speaker 1>Captain Laserhawk. The game and that's game as an initialism
<v Speaker 1>or I guess as an acronym, is an attempt to
<v Speaker 1>revive the once popular Far Cry three spinoff Blood Dragon
<v Speaker 1>and the spinoff spinoff Netflix cartoon. Captain Laser Hawk now
<v Speaker 1>is a top down shooter with commentary from ray Man
<v Speaker 1>and perks related to related to Assassin's Creed which on
<v Speaker 1>its face sounds like someone fell over in the Ubisoft
<v Speaker 1>supply clauset. It really does sound like someone was like
<v Speaker 1>carrying all these things in a neat order and then
<v Speaker 1>like fell down an escalator and all the things got
<v Speaker 1>mixed together, and they're like, well, is this the game?
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't in there because if you want to play,
<v Speaker 1>you have to have an NFT. These take the form
<v Speaker 1>of Ninja Warrior cards, which can be bought via the
<v Speaker 1>game's website, where like in all normal games, you'll have
<v Speaker 1>to sign into your wallet. This is where you put
<v Speaker 1>your pretend money and pitchers are kept, and in this case,
<v Speaker 1>it wants you to use something called eden online, Ubisoft's
<v Speaker 1>own in universe creation. You can also sign into coinbase
<v Speaker 1>or wallet connect if you have one of those. But
<v Speaker 1>who does so. Because I'm actually an incredible game games journalist,
<v Speaker 1>I let the thing hook into my personal Gmail account.
<v Speaker 1>This apparently generated a wallet I could associate with the account,
<v Speaker 1>meaning I was able to enter the photo boot booth. Anyway,
<v Speaker 1>this story goes on to describe like trying to get
<v Speaker 1>one of these NFT cards, these Ninja Warrior cards, so
<v Speaker 1>he could actually play the game, and they've all been
<v Speaker 1>minted already and sold, so you can only get them
<v Speaker 1>from a secondary market. Now you have to buy one
<v Speaker 1>from someone who owns one, the cheapest one being twelve dollars.
<v Speaker 1>The most expensive one is fifty ethereum fifty ethereum coins,
<v Speaker 1>which is one hundred and sixty two thousand dollars on
<v Speaker 1>sixty three thousand dollars to be fair, Now, Eric, I
<v Speaker 1>see you look on your face. You're like, well, that
<v Speaker 1>much money? What is this game? Well, Ubisoft's not telling there.
<v Speaker 1>They are not showing anything from this piece of shit.
<v Speaker 1>This is incredible stuff here.
<v Speaker 2>If you have the money to play this game, let
<v Speaker 2>me tell you about the best independent RPG podcast on
<v Speaker 2>the internet. It's called Axe the Blood Patreon dot com,
<v Speaker 2>slash Blood got pod.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what what is? So?
<v Speaker 1>Why do you even release this? Okay, just to like
<v Speaker 1>really emphasize it, you'll be soft. I don't think has
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Captain Laserhawk the game on its official social media account.
<v Speaker 1>It's just on the Captain Laserhawk account. They're kind of
<v Speaker 1>keeping it contained over there. They're embarrassed by it, and
<v Speaker 1>yet they still put it out.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's amazing because on multiple levels, so number one
<v Speaker 2>that ubi Zoft is still trying to do the NFT thing,
<v Speaker 2>Like they're just kind of scraped the barrel. They're like, well,
<v Speaker 2>we spent all that money, we better try and get
<v Speaker 2>more people's money with it. I mean, I guess I
<v Speaker 2>can respect that much that they're really like, well, we
<v Speaker 2>got to keep trying and see if we can get
<v Speaker 2>the few people who still believe in this.
<v Speaker 3>But it's it's like.
<v Speaker 2>A top down shooter, which is the strangest version usually,
<v Speaker 2>Like I am not immune to propaganda by that. I
<v Speaker 2>mean I play Pokemon TCG Pocket and I absolutely crack
<v Speaker 2>those packs every day, but like that is the sort
<v Speaker 2>of thing I would expect from this, or you know,
<v Speaker 2>something that adds to like a collectibility factor and idea
<v Speaker 2>that you're like building something that's exciting to play and unlock.
<v Speaker 2>Like Pokemon TCG Pocket gets that feeling so right when
<v Speaker 2>you like swipe that pack and you can like peek
<v Speaker 2>at the sides of the cards so you can get
<v Speaker 2>a little foil or whatever, Whereas like the NFT thing
<v Speaker 2>is like you get the world's worst jpeg and then
<v Speaker 2>you put it in what sounds like a top down shooter,
<v Speaker 2>which is probably not very good. I'm just gonna like
<v Speaker 2>just assume that right out the gate, it's probably no
<v Speaker 2>like Ikarugay not I know, I who who's doing this,
<v Speaker 2>Who who's got this time in this cash on their
<v Speaker 2>hands in the year twenty twenty four. Honestly, I would
<v Speaker 2>love to know who is actually buying into this.
<v Speaker 1>I Mean my assumption a lot of times is it
<v Speaker 1>is dudes making bots to go play these games, hoping
<v Speaker 1>one of them pops off so they could sell these
<v Speaker 1>NFTs for a fifty percent markup. And if you do
<v Speaker 1>that at scale, it's probably worth the time because like really,
<v Speaker 1>how much how complicated can the game be? And if
<v Speaker 1>you just send some dumb bots in there to poke
<v Speaker 1>around for a little bit, maybe they can accomplish something
<v Speaker 1>and that gets you a reward in the game. I mean, frankly,
<v Speaker 1>I don't really understand, like why, like what am I
<v Speaker 1>going to get out of this by putting a cryptocurrency
<v Speaker 1>into this thing so I could buy an NFT, which
<v Speaker 1>you have to do, by the way, to get this
<v Speaker 1>NFT in the first place, because it's on the secondhand market,
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to go get a cryptocurrency wallet, buy
<v Speaker 1>some ethereum. The minimum amount you could put in there
<v Speaker 1>is twenty one dollars, So even though it's twelve dollars
<v Speaker 1>for the lowest cost Ninja Warrior card, you're gonna have
<v Speaker 1>to put twenty one dollars into your cryptocurrency wallet. And then, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>to what end? I don't fully understand that. Maybe that's
<v Speaker 1>explained somewhere. I don't like, he couldn't even get the
<v Speaker 1>game working, Oh, John Walker over at Kataku, so he
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know. But yeah, I mean I get that some
<v Speaker 1>people find it appealing and we can make money from
<v Speaker 1>playing video games. Isn't that the dream? And it's just like, actually, no,
<v Speaker 1>that is a nightmare. It is a complete nightmare. We
<v Speaker 1>don't have to relitigate this. Everyone knows this, knows this
<v Speaker 1>about NFTs, but it's a nightmare to like turn that
<v Speaker 1>into a business where every decision about building making the
<v Speaker 1>game has now has this profit incentive behind it. We
<v Speaker 1>already have that in a lot of it from a
<v Speaker 1>lot of micro transactions. We don't need to have that
<v Speaker 1>on steroids. But you'll be soft three years after this
<v Speaker 1>stuff fell apart, trying to make this happen still and
<v Speaker 1>not even really trying to make it happen. Just sort
<v Speaker 1>of farting it out is so weird, so bizarre that
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how this company is still operating in
<v Speaker 1>this way.
<v Speaker 2>It's bonkers. And to encourage the people at home as
<v Speaker 2>a as a now freelancer, you don't have to turn
<v Speaker 2>everything you do into a money making endeavor, like you
<v Speaker 2>just really don't. And I can't imagine anyone logging onto
<v Speaker 2>a video game and being like.
<v Speaker 3>Well, time to earn my paycheck.
<v Speaker 2>And I do think it's baff Like there are definitely
<v Speaker 2>people who were like, this is my get rich quick scheme.
<v Speaker 2>This is my Oh, if I just earn enough, I
<v Speaker 2>will make my money and I will cash out and
<v Speaker 2>I will become rich off of the ethereum and the
<v Speaker 2>bitcoin and the NFTs. But like number one, I think
<v Speaker 2>that pool is increasingly small because at this point, like
<v Speaker 2>this technology has been dunked on so heavily, that's been
<v Speaker 2>largely like there's there's not enough glible people left to like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, sweep the rug out from under on and
<v Speaker 2>also like there's just other ways to do all of this.
<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, you make a
<v Speaker 2>game that's not even from what we have seen in
<v Speaker 2>like the few clips that appear in this trailer or whatever,
<v Speaker 2>and also going on my own assumptions, which I feel
<v Speaker 2>pretty solid in making, like you can play better games,
<v Speaker 2>you can play other stuff. You know, there's there's a
<v Speaker 2>lot of video games out there right now. Marvel Rivals
<v Speaker 2>is a good time. You can just go play Jeff
<v Speaker 2>the Shark and spit your friends off cliffs instead of
<v Speaker 2>playing whatever this is.
<v Speaker 1>And it's and that's it's free as well, right, So
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, go hop in there. Although this is
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be free, and of course it's it's actually not.
<v Speaker 1>You have to spend money just to get in there. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I I God, I hope you'll be soft finds Jesus.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, they seem lost and we'll never
<v Speaker 1>come back into the fold. But you know, I guess
<v Speaker 1>as long as that family's in charge, as long as
<v Speaker 1>the Gimo family is doing their thing and is scraping
<v Speaker 1>to or you know, clawing at the walls to stay
<v Speaker 1>in control, as they continue to do, even as they're
<v Speaker 1>asking Tencent to sort of buy most of the company,
<v Speaker 1>but let us stay in charge. I don't have much
<v Speaker 1>hope that this company is going to be acting any
<v Speaker 1>different in the years to come. They just kind of
<v Speaker 1>keep doing the same thing, but bigger and dumber each time,
<v Speaker 1>and this is an example of that. All right, let's
<v Speaker 1>move on here to Unicorn Overlord, which won't be getting
<v Speaker 1>any DLC or a sequel, at least a sequel isn't planned.
<v Speaker 1>This is from my Nintendo news or is it from
<v Speaker 1>Eric van Allen? Eric? Where did this come from?
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a while ago, and again I'd have
<v Speaker 2>to go back to my old site of employment and
<v Speaker 2>double check this, but I'm pretty sure I did an
<v Speaker 2>interview with the Unicorn Overlord depths in which they said like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>we're not really working on a PC port, and that
<v Speaker 2>was part of this news that was going around, and
<v Speaker 2>so I had a moment where I saw that headline
<v Speaker 2>going around. I was like, I thought I already confirmed
<v Speaker 2>that a while ago, but this is maybe just them
<v Speaker 2>continuing to say like we're still not working on one,
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, that they're not planning anything additional. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>this is vanilla ware. When it has vanilla ware, like
<v Speaker 2>they'll maybe remake this game in like ten years, but
<v Speaker 2>I doubt that.
<v Speaker 1>They're going to four again or something.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll get Unicorn Overlord Left Horiser and
<v Speaker 2>that'll be this version of that. If you can't tell
<v Speaker 2>I love Unicorn Overlord. This is absolutely on my goaty
<v Speaker 2>list and pretty high up there too. This game owns
<v Speaker 2>it rips. It's very good.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, though, this is vanilla ware. They don't
<v Speaker 1>put out PC ports. They honestly don't have many sequels.
<v Speaker 1>There's maybe a handful that are like spiritual successors that
<v Speaker 1>they've done. I mean, not even a lot of deal see,
<v Speaker 1>like you said, yeah, they'll remaster it, slash remake it,
<v Speaker 1>release it years later, do something like that. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I guess this isn't too surprising other than the fact
<v Speaker 1>that every other company has sort of softened our positions
<v Speaker 1>like that are similar to this. You know, a lot
<v Speaker 1>of like a lot of Japanese publishers that used to
<v Speaker 1>just not think about PC gaming at all. Now it's
<v Speaker 1>unthinkable for them to not release it on Steam. And
<v Speaker 1>like even Capcom it's like, well we'll get the Monster
<v Speaker 1>Hunter eight months later, we'll get the PC. You don't
<v Speaker 1>worry now They're like, no day and date, it's happening.
<v Speaker 1>We think this is an important part slice of the market,
<v Speaker 1>and we're not going to going to ignore it. Vanilla
<v Speaker 1>Ware is still vanilla Ware, not changing at all, and
<v Speaker 1>it's only surprising just because everyone else would change. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Dragon's Crown still isn't on switch and Dragon's Crown is
<v Speaker 1>in't on PC, right, Like.
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of Vanilla Ware's games are not on PC.
<v Speaker 2>In fact, I'm struggling to think of one that is.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I can't.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, I'm like couching my words because I'm
<v Speaker 2>betting there's like one that might. But okay, yeah, Chad
<v Speaker 2>is confirming me that none of them are, which is
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird because there's been a big push, especially
<v Speaker 2>amongst developers of Japanese RPGs, to like embrace the PC
<v Speaker 2>as a platform, especially as a launch platform. I feel
<v Speaker 2>like Square has been gradually going this way. A lot
<v Speaker 2>of Atlas games have been heading that way as well,
<v Speaker 2>Sega Games obviously through Like a Dragon and things like that,
<v Speaker 2>and you had companies like Falcon that were already embracing
<v Speaker 2>the PC a long time ago. So like, I've been
<v Speaker 2>enjoying that. But it's weird that Vanilla Ware has not
<v Speaker 2>done it, except that maybe like Vanilla Ware is still
<v Speaker 2>a small company at the end of the day. It's
<v Speaker 2>a small outfit compared to larger corporations, and it seems
<v Speaker 2>like every time a new Vanilla Ware game comes around,
<v Speaker 2>there's definitely an air of like, we're really swinging on
<v Speaker 2>this one. You know, we got We're putting a lot
<v Speaker 2>behind it, were really going to make this work, And
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that about this company. They
<v Speaker 2>put out some incredibly vibrant, interesting, fascinating games. Thirteen Sentinels,
<v Speaker 2>Odin's Sphere an extremely underrated game that I wish was
<v Speaker 2>available on the Switch right now. But it does mean
<v Speaker 2>that you kind of have to own the right platforms
<v Speaker 2>to play their entire collection.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which you know, in some ways is the PC
<v Speaker 1>if you're willing to get on there and get some
<v Speaker 1>emulators going. I really want to play Dragon's Crown again.
<v Speaker 1>It's been a minute. Yeah, that's one where it's like
<v Speaker 1>I would love to get a crew together and play
<v Speaker 1>through that. Yes, in fact, I'm in the mood for
<v Speaker 1>like beat them ups right now. One of my kids
<v Speaker 1>was just hopped on the Simpsons machine here the arcade
<v Speaker 1>went up last night and was going to town and
<v Speaker 1>just playing through it by herself while I was busy
<v Speaker 1>getting some presence wrapped and things like that. And I'm like, man,
<v Speaker 1>she's like old enough now that maybe we could like
<v Speaker 1>find a good beat him up to play through together.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying, like, do you think like you have one,
<v Speaker 1>like a go to one that you think would be
<v Speaker 1>good for like a fail of people that are of
<v Speaker 1>different gaming skills, for.
<v Speaker 2>A family of people, a family family content beat them up? Usually,
<v Speaker 2>so I have my Ambernick here, I have so many
<v Speaker 2>props on my desk today.
<v Speaker 1>You do.
<v Speaker 2>But usually when I boot up some sort of new
<v Speaker 2>emulator or something that can play at. Streets of Rage
<v Speaker 2>two is usually what I go to.
<v Speaker 1>Say that we that is a family favorite. Actually that's
<v Speaker 1>my wife and my sister in law played that a
<v Speaker 1>ton as a kid, and of course I did as well,
<v Speaker 1>So every time they're here we play that. And these
<v Speaker 1>days it's been Streets of Rage four as well.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I would say for an outside shot one
<v Speaker 2>there was the I think it was the Capcom made
<v Speaker 2>dungeons and dragons like Chronicles of Mistara. Yeah, that is
<v Speaker 2>an underrated beat them up. That's pretty solid. That or
<v Speaker 2>like Castle Crashers is always a good pick.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think Castle Crashers might be the one that I
<v Speaker 1>go with because I think the kids would think it's
<v Speaker 1>funny with like the you know, the farting notes or
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>And Scott Pilgrim, Scott Pilgrim just got that like remaster
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. That's a good one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, I'm out, girls, I'll throw a menu
<v Speaker 1>out there and we'll see what We'll see. Whatever one
<v Speaker 1>jumps towards, it'll probably be Streets of Rage four again, honestly,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm fine with that's what The Streets and Rage
<v Speaker 1>four is so good. It rules so so good. The
<v Speaker 1>Rogue Light mode that they put in there, So a
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of these indie games get those
<v Speaker 1>modes where it's like, okay, here's you know, the endless mode.
<v Speaker 1>Go as far as you can and get different powers
<v Speaker 1>and get them mixed up in different ways. Very good
<v Speaker 1>in Streets of Rage four. That's an excellent way to
<v Speaker 1>play that game. All right, we'll come back right after
<v Speaker 1>a quick break. We got to talk about the future
<v Speaker 1>of Elder Scrolls Online and that Marvel versus Capcom Infinite
<v Speaker 1>and Beyond fan mod. We'll get to all that right
<v Speaker 1>after this. All right, we are back. Thank you for
<v Speaker 1>sticking with us, and as promised, let's get right back
<v Speaker 1>into the headlines with the Elder Scrolls Online to no
<v Speaker 1>longer get major annual expansions. This is from Magnus goth
<v Speaker 1>Anderson at Game Reactor. For many years, the Elder Scrolls
<v Speaker 1>Online has, like World of Warcraft, had major expansions such
<v Speaker 1>as Graymore and Morowind. But it seems that this will
<v Speaker 1>not be the case going forward. Despite being quite successful
<v Speaker 1>with the game's current content model, the team behind it
<v Speaker 1>is now changing direction. The Zennimax Online studio's boss, Matt
<v Speaker 1>fior A Ferroer, has written an open letter where he
<v Speaker 1>confirms that the game is officially moving away from major chapters,
<v Speaker 1>as he calls them to a seasonal model. We have
<v Speaker 1>been incredibly successful with our strong annual chapter releases, starting
<v Speaker 1>with Moral Wind in twenty seventeen. Jeez, it's been that
<v Speaker 1>long since that Moral Wind expansion up through gold Road
<v Speaker 1>just six months ago. A zone design and quest content
<v Speaker 1>is at the core of every Elder Scrolls game, as
<v Speaker 1>as our annual chapter release model highlighted. We will still
<v Speaker 1>do lots of story content, but now looking into twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, we need to concentrate on different types of
<v Speaker 1>content to support all types of ESO players. So we
<v Speaker 1>are putting chapters aside and we'll be focusing on new
<v Speaker 1>types of content and a new release philosophy. More on
<v Speaker 1>that below. Basically, new content will be added to Elder
<v Speaker 1>Scrolls Online, but these seasons, which will introduce content more frequently,
<v Speaker 1>don't seem nearly as ambitious as the larger chapters. Got
<v Speaker 1>to say, this sounds like what's going on with Destiny
<v Speaker 1>Too right where it's like, we want to keep this
<v Speaker 1>thing going, we want to keep making money from it.
<v Speaker 1>Ideally we want to keep making about the same amount
<v Speaker 1>of money from it, but we want to put less
<v Speaker 1>work into the stuff we're putting out to make that
<v Speaker 1>amount of money. And I mean, at a certain point,
<v Speaker 1>I get that, especially for such a long ongoing game.
<v Speaker 1>But like Destiny Too, I imagine the player base that's
<v Speaker 1>been very happy with the way these things have gone
<v Speaker 1>Elder Scrolls Online. It's a very fanatical fan base. I imagine
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to not love hearing this, But I'm
<v Speaker 1>just guessing I'm not one of those players. What do
<v Speaker 1>you think.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not one of those players either. I'm a
<v Speaker 2>pretty hard person to draw into an MMO if your
<v Speaker 2>name isn't Final Fantasy fourteen. But it's This has always
<v Speaker 2>been a fascinating one to me because it kind of
<v Speaker 2>lingers on the periphery for me. But there are a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people who get really into this game, and
<v Speaker 2>I I find it fascinating to see how these live
<v Speaker 2>service games kind of ramp up and then scale down,
<v Speaker 2>because it always it happens, It always happens, and like
<v Speaker 2>maybe there is a revival or a resurgence that happens
<v Speaker 2>somewhere down the line, but usually that's pretty fan driven.
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty like community driven games that get those fan
<v Speaker 2>supported servers or like individual groups that still love to
<v Speaker 2>play them are kind of the surprise and not something
<v Speaker 2>you can plan for and certainly not something you're building
<v Speaker 2>content for as a company most of the time. And
<v Speaker 2>so I'm not surprised this is the lifespan of any
<v Speaker 2>online video game, is that eventually, like players are going
<v Speaker 2>to start to move on to something else, players are
<v Speaker 2>going to want something new, and either the MMO finds
<v Speaker 2>a way to provide that itself, or more often than not,
<v Speaker 2>like players do just go somewhere else, try something new,
<v Speaker 2>And that's not necessarily bad thing, but it is kind
<v Speaker 2>of a bummer for people who maybe still want more
<v Speaker 2>out of elders rolls online because maybe there they think
<v Speaker 2>there is more to continue to get out of this experience.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't know. It's it's the tricky part
<v Speaker 2>of this. I can't imagine how I would feel if
<v Speaker 2>f fourteen was like, hey, guess what, no more expansions,
<v Speaker 2>I'd be I'd be distraught. I'd be running into the streets,
<v Speaker 2>you know, tearing my clothes, howling at the moon, that
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing.
<v Speaker 1>So does Final Fantasy eleven still get expansions?
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't get expansions, but still got players, It's still
<v Speaker 2>got those players. Yeah, oh yeah, it's still got shooters,
<v Speaker 2>as they say. But like it's I podcast with one
<v Speaker 2>of them, Victor Hunter, notorious Final Fantasy eleven fan. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's pretty much there. There's some thoughts
<v Speaker 2>that maybe there might be some eleven stuff coming down
<v Speaker 2>the pipe, because right now the current raid series in
<v Speaker 2>Final Fantasy fourteen is centered on Final Fantasy eleven. It's
<v Speaker 2>like a crossover that brings in a lot of those
<v Speaker 2>characters and even mechanics and stuff like that and really
<v Speaker 2>interesting ways. But yeah, it's it's still kind of just
<v Speaker 2>out there. It just exists. I'm surprised your sub for
<v Speaker 2>fourteen doesn't get you into eleven as well.
<v Speaker 1>I really think it's just a point. Yeah, yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>think the only reason this is a little bit surprising
<v Speaker 1>is and this will popped in my head when I
<v Speaker 1>first saw this, as Marino and Chat points out, EverQuest
<v Speaker 1>is just got its thirty first expansion. There's for some
<v Speaker 1>reason some MMOs excuse me, anything like sort of above
<v Speaker 1>the EverQuest level. In my mind was like no, for
<v Speaker 1>those are just going on forever and not just going on,
<v Speaker 1>not just existing in maintenance mode, actively getting new support.
<v Speaker 1>And then, you know, when I really look at it,
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of MMOs that probably were EverQuest size
<v Speaker 1>or bigger that definitely have not just gone into maintenance mode,
<v Speaker 1>would have completely shut down. So it's not like across
<v Speaker 1>the board, but it's like, in my mind, it's like, no,
<v Speaker 1>a successful momo does just exist there forever over in
<v Speaker 1>the corner doing its own thing, and I think that
<v Speaker 1>they probably just have different ideas about what they need
<v Speaker 1>to do for the future of Elders roles in online
<v Speaker 1>games involving these properties from Bethesda, and so they're probably
<v Speaker 1>trying to like slowly shift into that over a course
<v Speaker 1>over a matter of years, and this is just the
<v Speaker 1>beginning of that. But yeah, I thought Elder Scrolls Online
<v Speaker 1>was like extraordinarily popular for like how old it is.
<v Speaker 1>It seemed like it had, like, like I said, that
<v Speaker 1>fanatical fan base, but I thought it was pretty sizable,
<v Speaker 1>especially after getting put into game pass in some ways.
<v Speaker 1>But who knows if that like what that really looks
<v Speaker 1>like and what the business model looks like. I bet
<v Speaker 1>it is a line that trends down over time, and
<v Speaker 1>they're probably just seeing like, Okay, if we keep doing this,
<v Speaker 1>the line could go from the black into the red,
<v Speaker 1>and so let's just cut it off now, change things
<v Speaker 1>up and try to make more more from less. And again,
<v Speaker 1>can you blame them after ten years? I think, hey,
<v Speaker 1>getting ten years out of an online video game seems
<v Speaker 1>like a fair deal to me.
<v Speaker 2>I think the interesting comparison point here is that there's
<v Speaker 2>also Fallout seventy six, and that's kind of like a
<v Speaker 2>parallel idea of a game is, here's our kind of
<v Speaker 2>mmo we take on our single player RPGs. But Fallout
<v Speaker 2>seventy six is going to continue to get an influx
<v Speaker 2>of new players because the Fallout TV show is doing well.
<v Speaker 2>We don't have like an Elder Scrolls like trans Media
<v Speaker 2>Empire yet, right like Elder Scrolls kind of.
<v Speaker 1>Scrolls six, which you know, while that will increase the
<v Speaker 1>popularity of the brand, he is going to take a
<v Speaker 1>lot of oxygen out of the room for some even
<v Speaker 1>something like yeah, so to thrive in that moment.
<v Speaker 2>So so why I maybe the thinking is like, why
<v Speaker 2>expend a lot now? Why not just like you said,
<v Speaker 2>wait until we get further down the line, we can
<v Speaker 2>do a more concentrated push around when Elder Scrolls is
<v Speaker 2>probably going to pick up more a notoriety and for
<v Speaker 2>right now, like, if Elder Scroll six isn't coming out
<v Speaker 2>anytime soon, then why go overboard on it? Why try
<v Speaker 2>to force a thing instead kind of put it into
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a like rem sleep mode and
<v Speaker 2>then bring.
<v Speaker 3>It back up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sambo Nis and chappoint out that right now, Elder
<v Speaker 1>Scrolls Online has twelve thousand concurrent players on Steam. That
<v Speaker 1>is that's that's really solid. I mean, you can you
<v Speaker 1>can build a business around ten thousand concurrent players pretty easily,
<v Speaker 1>especially if they're they're gonna be paying customers for expansions.
<v Speaker 1>But they've done that, and they they're probably just like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>we can make a bigger swing and maybe get you know,
<v Speaker 1>get back up to one hundred thousand concurrent players for
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years if we do something new, and
<v Speaker 1>to do that, we need to begin moving on. Like
<v Speaker 1>Bethesda and zenny Max underneath Microsoft, They're not going to
<v Speaker 1>start up another Zennimax Online to do another MMO. They're
<v Speaker 1>gonna take this team and have them do something else.
<v Speaker 1>And that seems to be what's gonna start here, all right.
<v Speaker 1>Marvel Versus Capcom Infinite and Beyond fan Mod launches tomorrow
<v Speaker 1>and brings art style overhaul and more from Alex co
<v Speaker 1>at Dual Shockers. When Marvel Versus Capcom Infinite was released
<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen, it failed to live up to its
<v Speaker 1>predecessors and was a huge disappointment to fighting game fans worldwide.
<v Speaker 1>While Capcom has since given up on the game, the
<v Speaker 1>fighting game community hasn't, and we're about to see the
<v Speaker 1>fruits of their labor with Marvel Versus Capcom Infinite and Beyond,
<v Speaker 1>which releases on December twentieth. Marvel Versus Capcom Infinite and
<v Speaker 1>Beyond is a fan mod that improves the original game
<v Speaker 1>in every way. There's a launch trailer if you want
<v Speaker 1>to see what they're talking about here, but here's a
<v Speaker 1>list of improvements. Overhauled art style for the cast of fighters,
<v Speaker 1>added visual effects, new color palettes, alternate costumes, gameplay updates,
<v Speaker 1>stage updates, four player tag team modes, which is some
<v Speaker 1>real cool stuff. I've seen some clips of this of
<v Speaker 1>like Maximilian Dude and its friends doing two v two
<v Speaker 1>fights tag in one another end that's you know, obviously
<v Speaker 1>two XKO does that as well, but they're like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>it works really well here as well. And then customize
<v Speaker 1>voices and sounds and new music tracks. Basically, they made
<v Speaker 1>the game. They wanted this to be all along and
<v Speaker 1>it looks fantastic. It looks so good. Something like forty
<v Speaker 1>people worked on this project. I'm glad it was able
<v Speaker 1>to like sort of get to this point where now
<v Speaker 1>it's here, and that means it'll be out there and
<v Speaker 1>you won't be able to put the cat back on
<v Speaker 1>Even if Disney or Capcom show up with a season
<v Speaker 1>and desist, you'll be able to find this on torrent
<v Speaker 1>sites going forward. So this is really cool thing. I
<v Speaker 1>plan to check it out. How about you.
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>MVCI was one that I didn't really gel with when
<v Speaker 2>it came out at the time, and I'm, you know something,
<v Speaker 2>what's the willum deafhone thing. I'm something of a fighting
<v Speaker 2>game fan myself. There it is y yeah, but like
<v Speaker 2>I MVC I didn't really click with me as somebody
<v Speaker 2>that loved two and three and Powell and the chat
<v Speaker 2>John Carson. They're saying we'll be running sets this weekend. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>probably we'll probably be doing that. But like everything about
<v Speaker 2>this is so rad because it really is for me personally.
<v Speaker 2>Like number one, fighting games have had such ammunity push
<v Speaker 2>in the last few years, especially amidst the COVID pandemic.
<v Speaker 2>There was a big upswing in people wanting to play
<v Speaker 2>old games get on like Fight k Fight Kate and
<v Speaker 2>play like NBC two, play Third Strike, play CBS two.
<v Speaker 2>And I think you're seeing some of the like excitement
<v Speaker 2>around that now pick up with. I mean even Capcom's
<v Speaker 2>going like, yeah, we should probably take Capcom Versus S
<v Speaker 2>and K two out of the vault and sell it again.
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense, like we'd probably take some money off that,
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's been incredible, it's been excellent to.
<v Speaker 1>See sorry, right, sound was coming through there. I thought
<v Speaker 1>it was muted. My bad. I fixed that.
<v Speaker 3>Cool hot audio.
<v Speaker 2>Hot hot audio. Yeah, so so CVS too and stuff
<v Speaker 2>like that. Getting re released is already exciting enough, but
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the excitement around just building the fan mod,
<v Speaker 2>making the game what you wanted to be. I grew up,
<v Speaker 2>especially in like college era, we loved playing Project M.
<v Speaker 2>When we discovered Project M and played that, that's I
<v Speaker 2>know that's the in game and all that, but it
<v Speaker 2>was it was such a jam to play that game
<v Speaker 2>and experience like a different version of Smash that was
<v Speaker 2>kind of balanced around what the community wanted it to be.
<v Speaker 2>And seeing this from NBCi, a game that a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people I think had written off. A lot of
<v Speaker 2>people had maybe gone like, Okay, this is the bad
<v Speaker 2>NBC And to see a team go like, no, like
<v Speaker 2>we're going to tune this, we're gonna mess with it,
<v Speaker 2>We're going to see like what this can be when
<v Speaker 2>we tinker with it a little bit and and come
<v Speaker 2>out with something this incredible, is like, really really exciting.
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to see what kind of scale attachment it
<v Speaker 2>gets because I could see this developing, you know, community,
<v Speaker 2>fan base and stuff like that. But as for whether
<v Speaker 2>this gets like an EVO spot, whether this even gets
<v Speaker 2>like a combo breaker spot or something like that, a
<v Speaker 2>little bit more curious. I think, like with the the
<v Speaker 2>rights issues, that's that's maybe a bit hairy for some
<v Speaker 2>of the toos out there. But I'm just excited to
<v Speaker 2>see NBCi getting like a little bit of love a
<v Speaker 2>game that really really just did not have a strong
<v Speaker 2>start out of the gate, but absolutely deserves a second look.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it does feel like the winds are blowing
<v Speaker 1>in favor of us getting a new one of these
<v Speaker 1>one day. It definitely feels like Disney's down to clown.
<v Speaker 1>Capcom is in a position where they could pull this off. Now.
<v Speaker 1>Is Capcom going to do that before they like maybe
<v Speaker 1>turn to some of their own stuff in the meantime,
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they do a Dark Stalkers first, and I think
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people would welcome that instead.
<v Speaker 3>That'd be crazy, Yes, but it feels like it feels
<v Speaker 3>like we're there.
<v Speaker 1>It feels like, you know, they're bringing back Annie Musha,
<v Speaker 1>They're bringing back Okami because they're in such a strong
<v Speaker 1>position and they have such a strong handle on their
<v Speaker 1>technology that they feel comfortable like making these bets more frequently.
<v Speaker 1>And that's going to turn back to the fighting game
<v Speaker 1>scene that they've had for a long time, where Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we've done street Fighter and that's going very well, let's
<v Speaker 1>just go a little bit deeper. Marvel's obviously right there,
<v Speaker 1>but they did try Anthony not too long ago, so
<v Speaker 1>maybe they'd go with Dark Stalkers. But I don't think
<v Speaker 1>that we are never again going to get a Marvel
<v Speaker 1>versus Capcom game that will happen again one day.
<v Speaker 2>Dark Stalkers is crazy to me because initially, when I
<v Speaker 2>was making jokes about what would Capcom bring back now
<v Speaker 2>that like Animusha is back on the table, I was like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, they got to give us Breath of Fire
<v Speaker 2>at some point. That has to come back, even just
<v Speaker 2>a collection. But Darkstalkers is an even deeper, stranger cut,
<v Speaker 2>and that's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think that's the kind of Capcom that
<v Speaker 1>we have right now is a deeper deeper and weirder,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so excited about it. So yep, God, this
<v Speaker 1>game just looks fantastic now. They really just put a
<v Speaker 1>little borderland cell shading on there. That's all you need.
<v Speaker 1>That fixes most games turns out. All right, let's keep
<v Speaker 1>moving here. Next story, Sonic movie four planned to release
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty seven. The third movie only just came out,
<v Speaker 1>or it is about to come out. Yeah, I think
<v Speaker 1>it came out last weekend. This comes from mind Tendo
<v Speaker 1>news entertainment website. Variety is reporting that Sonic the Hedgehog
<v Speaker 1>four is going to be planned for release in twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven. This is a very successful film franchise. Sonic
<v Speaker 1>three is out this past weekend, and it was matched
<v Speaker 1>up against some other ones. Or maybe again, maybe it's
<v Speaker 1>coming out this weeknd. But I just saw headline saying
<v Speaker 1>they anticipate it's coming out this one artist today. It
<v Speaker 1>comes out today. Today. I saw a headline saying that
<v Speaker 1>they anticipated to make more money than anything else this weekend.
<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of other big releases like Mufasa. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's up against Mufasa and that last Lion King live action,
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. The movie is one of the highest
<v Speaker 1>grossing films ever, and Mufasa apparently not going to do
<v Speaker 1>as well as Sonic the Hedgehog three. Like that's where
<v Speaker 1>we're at right now.
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know anything about Sonic. I'm just gonna
<v Speaker 2>say that up front. I but but I have beef
<v Speaker 2>with Moufasa. Can I bring up beef with but? Okay,
<v Speaker 2>come from Mufasa. Don't don't call that? Like why are
<v Speaker 2>they calling it live action? Like it's CGI.
<v Speaker 1>It's all animated. Every single frame is animated.
<v Speaker 2>If they taught a lion to like talk and do
<v Speaker 2>all the lines, now I would be interested. Now I'm
<v Speaker 2>like seated. I'm in that movie theater for that. But
<v Speaker 2>like they're just doing CGI Moufasa like talking, like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I'm Moufasa. I'm going to fall off a cliff in
<v Speaker 2>the next movie, Like I don't. I don't really, It's
<v Speaker 2>it's not doing anything for me. I'm not there for it.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, until you can teach a lion to talk,
<v Speaker 2>and Disney you've got that money. I've been to Disneyland
<v Speaker 2>and Disney World now I've seen the money you have.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not seing in that theater.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just does nothing for me when I looked
<v Speaker 1>at the Lion King thing, and then now, I guess
<v Speaker 1>you know what. I wanted to be more excited about
<v Speaker 1>the Moufasa. I'm like, Okay, there's a lot of cool
<v Speaker 1>people working on this, but then I saw it, I'm like, Nope,
<v Speaker 1>still feel absolutely nothing that may the original animated Lion
<v Speaker 1>King though I love that stuff. I'll just go watch
<v Speaker 1>that again, make my kids.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great time. As for Sonic, like, I
<v Speaker 2>respect all the Sonics that goes in my life. I
<v Speaker 2>respect all the people who are very excited for this.
<v Speaker 2>My good friend Kenna Shepherd is thrilled for this. I've
<v Speaker 2>always loved Sonic from just like, oh, it's two D Sonic.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I played Genesis when I was really little,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'd watch them run across and my
<v Speaker 2>brother would play tales, and then it like turned into
<v Speaker 2>a series that had lore and characters and a story,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, not Sonic has lore, Yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is Sonic. This is like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>Sonic runs to the right and does little speedball things
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. And I think I just never
<v Speaker 2>got on board with the idea of Sonic having the
<v Speaker 2>deep lore. It never clicked for me. It's like Mario
<v Speaker 2>suddenly finding out that someone like watches a MVS of
<v Speaker 2>like Marios. It's like Lincoln Park and it's like Luigi
<v Speaker 2>being like, oh, this actually sounds really good.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're describing something that sounds awesome. Beliegi like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>pulls off his shirt and he's like just jacked and
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, they.
<v Speaker 2>Like in the end, but it's Luigi like in the mansion,
<v Speaker 2>like sucking up all the ghosts.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's what that is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I just can't help but think about
<v Speaker 1>Sonic and then think about how they were bullied into
<v Speaker 1>making billions of dollars. Now every time that comes up,
<v Speaker 1>like Mike always makes that point, Mike Manadi, and I'm like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you're right. It's they very easily could have missed out
<v Speaker 1>on this, and because we all yelled at them, they
<v Speaker 1>have now one of the most successful film franchises that
<v Speaker 1>is a going concern at the moment. It is quite baffling,
<v Speaker 1>So good for them. Yes, the franchise really has teeth. Now,
<v Speaker 1>well done. Jason Finelli. All right, couple last stories here.
<v Speaker 1>NFL team owner reportedly used Madden to make a decision.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Zack Swyzen at Kotaku. A report claims
<v Speaker 1>that New York Jets owner Woody Johnson used EA's Madden
<v Speaker 1>video game series to inform his decision making regarding real players.
<v Speaker 1>The Athletic reported that Johnson vetoed a trade deal for
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver Jerry Judy due to his low rating in Madden.
<v Speaker 1>Judy was later picked up by the Cleveland Browns and
<v Speaker 1>has had a great season. He's had a really good season.
<v Speaker 1>He's a very good football player. This rules that, like
<v Speaker 1>that is a level of dysfunction at the ownership level
<v Speaker 1>that only can happen at the Jets.
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say it would be the Jets that
<v Speaker 2>do this. Of course, I'd like Jets to be clear. Like,
<v Speaker 2>so they're in the football, like like soccer side of
<v Speaker 2>the world, Like there are absolutely scouts and stuff that
<v Speaker 2>use Football Manager as like a tool as like part
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff they look into. Like that stuff is
<v Speaker 2>actually pretty robust.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, football matters played by absolute freaks, So that makes
<v Speaker 1>some sense.
<v Speaker 3>That's that's some sicko stuff happening there. But like.
<v Speaker 2>Using Madden is really funny because I just imagine this
<v Speaker 2>person sitting there like losing their their Madden game, their
<v Speaker 2>ultimate team game, and being like I'm trading this guy.
<v Speaker 3>Like get out of he It sounds.
<v Speaker 1>Pretty close to exactly what happened here. So, uh, man,
<v Speaker 1>did you he booted up? Man? Or do you like
<v Speaker 1>google it? I wonder if he just googled it and
<v Speaker 1>like saw his Madden rating or something that way.
<v Speaker 3>He probably probably googled it.
<v Speaker 2>But like when I tell people that this is why
<v Speaker 2>I love sports, Like I also love the drama and
<v Speaker 2>the strategy and the athleticism, but also like sports gives
<v Speaker 2>us stories like this, right, That's that's why it's beautiful?
<v Speaker 1>Is this? It's like for all the how for as
<v Speaker 1>much as moneyball and analytics have come into it, which
<v Speaker 1>I do like that stuff. I like that they've turned
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sports into math at the at the
<v Speaker 1>at its foundation, it's driven by emotions and by people's yes,
<v Speaker 1>hubris and rich people's whims, and boy, it's fun to
<v Speaker 1>see how stupid they could be sometimes. And then I
<v Speaker 1>like the case my team, the Lions, It's like, wait,
<v Speaker 1>the Ford family got their ship. When did that happen?
<v Speaker 1>How that was that was never supposed to happen? Oh
<v Speaker 1>my god. So it's like this uplifting story. Finally something
<v Speaker 1>going in favor of the Fords. All right, last story here.
<v Speaker 1>The twenty twenty four Indie Game Awards winner went beyond
<v Speaker 1>Blatro but also included Blatro. This is from Matt Patches
<v Speaker 1>at Polygon. We'll just let's read through some of these
<v Speaker 1>winners here. Game of the Year was Blatro. Best Debut
<v Speaker 1>Game was Little Kiddie, Big City. Accessibility another Crabs Treasure.
<v Speaker 1>It's got the best accessibility thing of the year.
<v Speaker 3>Just add a gun and gun. Yeah, just give the
<v Speaker 3>crab a.
<v Speaker 1>Gun and let him shoot all these bosses. Your visual design,
<v Speaker 1>Harold hallibit. I'm glad that game got something I was
<v Speaker 1>never It was never for me, but boy it looked
<v Speaker 1>cool and it got this for visual design, which it
<v Speaker 1>earned Best Music, Pacific Drive, Best Bite Sized Game. Thank
<v Speaker 1>goodness you're here. Best Solo Development, Animal well man. I
<v Speaker 1>like the categories for the Indie Game Awards. It's like
<v Speaker 1>recognizing the kinds of things that only happened in indie games,
<v Speaker 1>like solo development, innovation, crypt Master. That's a favorite of mind.
<v Speaker 1>I like crypt Master quite a bit. Emotional impact was
<v Speaker 1>gameplay Design, Bilatro, community Management, Agrocrab women led game Mexico
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty one a Deep Slumber, and then a narrative
<v Speaker 1>went to one thousand times resist.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's that's a great lineup. I know a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of the people that were voting on this, and
<v Speaker 2>we're kind of arranging a lot of this stuff the
<v Speaker 2>Indie Council that formed all this, and I think it's
<v Speaker 2>if you're somebody who was coming out of especially like
<v Speaker 2>myself coming out of the Game Awards and being like, Wow,
<v Speaker 2>they didn't really like do much for indie games like
<v Speaker 2>Palatro certainly got elevated, and a few other games popped
<v Speaker 2>up in their respective indie categories that got like sectioned
<v Speaker 2>off to the side. But if you want something where
<v Speaker 2>you're going to watch an awards show and see a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of games that you want to check out that
<v Speaker 2>you haven't heard of before, like Mexico nineteen twenty one
<v Speaker 2>is a great example of a game that I don't
<v Speaker 2>think many people have heard of or paid attention to,
<v Speaker 2>but is a really incredible, fascinating experience. Like this was
<v Speaker 2>a really good awards and a really like solid push
<v Speaker 2>from a bunch of folks who just wanted something a
<v Speaker 2>little bit different in the space, not necessarily trying to
<v Speaker 2>usurp anybody, but like understanding that there just need to
<v Speaker 2>be something different out there to like make space for
<v Speaker 2>these indie games.
<v Speaker 1>Just come at it from a slightly different angle, to
<v Speaker 1>give different games a chance to get some recognition. That's fantastic.
<v Speaker 1>John Carson and Chat's mentioning that apparently they have the
<v Speaker 1>rule is other than Game of the Year, you can't
<v Speaker 1>be nominated in more than two categories. But nothing was
<v Speaker 1>nominated for two categories besides Game of the Year. I
<v Speaker 1>wonder if that applies to the women led game, because
<v Speaker 1>that would be kind of unfair, like, oh, you're a
<v Speaker 1>women led game, so you can only be nominated for that.
<v Speaker 1>I bet they don't do it that way.
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, I would think there would be some think
<v Speaker 2>in there, some thinking there, absolutely, But yeah, again, these
<v Speaker 2>awards were fantastic and I love this stuff, so.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, absolutely, all right, everybody that does it for
<v Speaker 1>the headlines, Let's get over here to the pull from yesterday.
<v Speaker 1>Let me get it framed up here for you all,
<v Speaker 1>and there we go. Are you going to see Sonic
<v Speaker 1>three in theaters? Yes? Or no, twenty nine percent say yes,
<v Speaker 1>seventy one percent say now, I'm probably not gonna see
<v Speaker 1>it in theaters unless the kids start asking about it,
<v Speaker 1>mostly because movies like these, these family movies, they come
<v Speaker 1>home very fast. They end up on you know, paramount plus,
<v Speaker 1>I think, is what this one is going to end
<v Speaker 1>up on. It takes like a month and a half,
<v Speaker 1>so it's like in a blanket'll be there, and that's
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty convenient for me, having to take an entire
<v Speaker 1>family out to see a movie. I enjoy that. But
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if they ask about it. Listen, I like
<v Speaker 1>going the movies. Maybe I'll check it out. How about you, Eric,
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go see it in the theater?
<v Speaker 3>No.
<v Speaker 2>I got in trouble with a friend for saying that
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to see Sonic or Wicked in theaters.
<v Speaker 2>Sonic I just have no interest, and Wicked is like
<v Speaker 2>something that I want to see with people, and I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to go see that by myself. I feel
<v Speaker 2>weird seeing that movie by myself. So I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what you see by yourself in the theater these days,
<v Speaker 2>because then maybe like no Sparatu, Bob Dylan.
<v Speaker 1>Know sau by Yourself movie. I see that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'd be really funny to walk out of Wicked
<v Speaker 2>and then just like ski like that was crazy. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't know Bob Dylan's life was like that. So you
<v Speaker 2>could do that for the bit maybe.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fair. I would enjoy that, all right. I
<v Speaker 1>got a new poll question. We'll get to that here
<v Speaker 1>in a second. Before that, though, Eric Van Allen, why
<v Speaker 1>don't you tell people where they can find you on
<v Speaker 1>the internet what you have going on all that good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can find me, Like we said, Acts of
<v Speaker 2>the Blood gott an independent RPG podcast I co host
<v Speaker 2>with Kat Bailey and Nauty Oxford. We've got big plans
<v Speaker 2>for the new year. We love to cover RPGs and
<v Speaker 2>also a bunch of other stuff. We've got some side quests,
<v Speaker 2>like I think we're doing the top ten RPG battle
<v Speaker 2>themes coming up pretty soon here. But we're probably gonna
<v Speaker 2>do like a watch of Nausica because Kat Bailey has.
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen the movie Nausica.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the most Cat Bailey movie I've ever seen.
<v Speaker 3>Enough. It was like I've never seen it, and I'm
<v Speaker 3>like that's crazy to me. So there's that.
<v Speaker 2>There's Normandy FM, the other podcast I got with Kenna
<v Speaker 2>Shepherd where we play kind of like games in a
<v Speaker 2>book club format right now, where're playing through Near Automata,
<v Speaker 2>which has been a really fun experience. And then I'm
<v Speaker 2>also freelancing, so you can find my work primarily on
<v Speaker 2>but Why Though, which is an incredible entertainment and gaming
<v Speaker 2>publication run by Kate Sanchez and Matt Donahue, which does
<v Speaker 2>a lot of great work. I've been doing a lot
<v Speaker 2>of writing over there, my mouthwatching review. If you want
<v Speaker 2>to read about a really really good indie game, you
<v Speaker 2>can go find that, or you can head to places
<v Speaker 2>like PC Gamer, where I just put up a I
<v Speaker 2>think it might be the first hands on of if
<v Speaker 2>you know, the game battle Chef Brigade. That studio has
<v Speaker 2>a new game coming out, oh very sometime in the future,
<v Speaker 2>and I got to do the first hands on with
<v Speaker 2>that and it was really really cool.
<v Speaker 3>I like that game a lot.
<v Speaker 2>Battlesuit Aces looks really really good. So go find all
<v Speaker 2>those things where you can find them.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, excellent, that sounds fantastic.
<v Speaker 3>All right, new poll questions guy and all that. Yeah, excellent.
<v Speaker 1>What's your most anticipated game? Of twenty twenty five, Monster Hunter,
<v Speaker 1>wild Elden Ring, Night Ring, Ghost of Yota, Grand Theft
<v Speaker 1>Auto six. I can only put four because YouTube changed
<v Speaker 1>how many you could put, So those are your options.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, there is a comments section if you want
<v Speaker 1>to put your actual most anticipated game. Marino points out
<v Speaker 1>the community Game of the Year voting has begun. Go
<v Speaker 1>to GiantBomb dot com. You'll you'll find the link to
<v Speaker 1>that there. I would love to get everybody's a vote
<v Speaker 1>on that. I love the community vote thing. That would
<v Speaker 1>be a fantastic also. Bbbbbbbbb beep. I am getting an
<v Speaker 1>update here in my notes from the producers. All right,
<v Speaker 1>this says Dan is clogging a toilet right now with
<v Speaker 1>tummy issues. Blake Club is coming in the new year.
<v Speaker 1>The mac and cheese finally got to him. All right,
<v Speaker 1>you heard it here, everybody. We were going to do
<v Speaker 1>the first episode of his Blake Club today. But the
<v Speaker 1>man has clugged. He triple digits for clogging toilets. He's
<v Speaker 1>gonna start working on quad digits here pretty soon, I think, so. Yes, sorry, everybody.
<v Speaker 1>I was looking forward to it. But you know what
<v Speaker 1>this means is that he's just going to be right
<v Speaker 1>up against that deadline where if he doesn't start it
<v Speaker 1>in our first week back from break, he is going
<v Speaker 1>to be in a lot of trouble with Alex Navarro. Yes, okay,
<v Speaker 1>now a new update here from the producer. God has
<v Speaker 1>intervened and stopped him. So maybe God wants him to
<v Speaker 1>be punished. Who knows? That doesn't sound right? All right?
<v Speaker 1>So hey, that means if we do something today, it's
<v Speaker 1>going to be we'll come up with something. Maybe no promises.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's kind of got senior itis a little bit for
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, so we'll see we're able to put
<v Speaker 1>something together. I don't know in the meantime though, Eric
<v Speaker 1>Van Allen, thank you so much for hanging out with
<v Speaker 1>me today and talking about video games. Man. I really
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me on
<v Speaker 2>and talking about all my craziness and letting me rant
<v Speaker 2>about Moufasa.
<v Speaker 1>It's important that the people know. I love it absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>It was great to see you out in leg. Glad
<v Speaker 1>we were able to make this happen. Glad we were
<v Speaker 1>able to make Game Best Mornings happen all year everybody.
<v Speaker 1>That was a lot of fun. I really like doing
<v Speaker 1>this show. I love talking with you all and kind
<v Speaker 1>of you know, bouncing back and forth between chat. I
<v Speaker 1>love having all the guests on to talk about the
<v Speaker 1>video game news. It is a very fun show for me.
<v Speaker 1>Been doing it for a while now. Still the highlight
<v Speaker 1>of my day each time we get to do an episode,
<v Speaker 1>So thank you all for making it possible. You know,
<v Speaker 1>Giant Bob. In twenty twenty five, we're gonna keep doing
<v Speaker 1>our thing. We'll probably have some changes, but just based
<v Speaker 1>on what we have to do to make things work.
<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna still be a Giant bombs So look
<v Speaker 1>out for us in the next year. Can't wait to
<v Speaker 1>you know, get back and do another GB at night
<v Speaker 1>at SGF and things like that. So yeah, we're still
<v Speaker 1>gonna be that. We're gonna be that team that you've
<v Speaker 1>been coming here for. All right, one more time, Thank you, Eric,
<v Speaker 1>one more time, Thank you all. You're the best audience
<v Speaker 1>in gaming. Thank you for listening and watching. Until next time,
<v Speaker 1>have a good one, take care of yourself, and goodbye.