The INSANE PS5 PRO Situation & The END of the Gaming Industry? | ANTDUDE vs. NONTENDO | #92
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2024-03-22
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Welcome to the Nontendo podcast. My name is wood Well, live in Boston, baby, and this week's co host is and dude. Hello, Hello, Hello, let's go. You were just saying how nice this is. Look it was a nice dringle. Yeah it is. We brought the whole I say we, E brought the whole set up here to Boston. He brought all his equipment. We have the cameras, we have the studio. Is it all out of pocket? Yeah? I paid for all this. What doesn't pay me to be here? Let's excuse me? Excuse me? Can't write off stuff on your taxes if you're not getting paid. Happy taxis and everybody. God we are live in Boston because we're here at Packs Packs eight Expo twenty twenty four cold. It is freezing. It's thirty nine degree out. I opened the door to exit the hotel and the wind blew in and almost blew it. Actually took my breath away. Literally, I like breathed it, and I was I couldn't breathe for a second. It's crazy how cold it is. But thanks for coming in, fle You flew the way here just for the podcast, just for the I mean, honestly, yeah, I'm a little overpacks. We'll talk about it. Oh really, well, well yeah, we'll talk about it. Well, we have a lot to talk about today because we have we have a lot of things to address. We have a lot of leaks to address. Uh, the PlayStation Pro League. I want to talk about that. Yeah, you give me a list of topics, and I'm like, I hate all of these things. I know. Well, that's why I didn't really know what to even title or cool this episode this week because down for a chat, there's like a mix of things. We're kind of just hanging out at packs. I've got a dude who likes ants? Do you like ants? How do you feel about ants? So they there's a new game coming out, what was it called Empire Events. It's like an ant themed RTS that's coming out, and like, gro a game for me. Let's go. If you played Grounded, you watch Bugs Life? What's the deal? I love Bugs Life? Yeah, my name is Anthony. That's all it was. And then it come to find out that not many people use ant as a nickname for Anthony. That was weird for me. People say Tony, I don't look like a Tony. Come on, I don't I don't give Tony. I'm watching Sopranos and Tony is a whole different thing for me. Now, yeah, I knew some Tony's in Brooklyn. I'm not a Tony. I was gonna say, if you, if you stayed in Brooklyn, maybe maybe it would come out anie the game that was not an Italian accident. Well, I don't want to be. My ancestors would be furious. Uh, we have some other things to talk about. Uh, some of game Fest is coming up. I bought something that a lot of people consider illegal. You did. I have some thoughts on that, and uh, I don't know. That's pretty much it. So you said Sturdoo Valley in that too. You can drink mayonnaise now you want? Yeah, if if we can talk about you can drink mayonnaise. That's like the only thing I know about. There's like another farm and you can drink mayonnaise. Yestado has this like insane massive patch coming out, which is cool. But where's that chocolate Haunted Haunted Tear game? Yeah? What is it? Haunted Chocolate Tear? Yeah, that's the one. I don't know what I was trying to say. There was a Stardoo concert that was going on an orchestra. Okay, that's not that though. No, you went to that, okay? Yeah, and concerned ape was there the story new fans are rabid. I want to go to a a Zelda concert. Are they still? I don't know if they're doing them anymore. They stopped for a while. Yeah, and and oh and I don't apologize. Yeah, what is this apology you're hyping up? I'm excited, good old I get to watch a front receipt to a YouTuber apology. Oh, I've given I didn't want to make this video. I've given a few of them. Let me it's not a it's not a joke actually, but let me. Let me do it anyway. I've made a severe lack in judgment. How did he say it? Laps and judgment, Beer and continuous laps and judgment. The best of the YouTube apology of all time. No. Last week, I I incorrectly when Spawn was here, incorrectly looked at the size of his arm and said that you look bigger than the wrestler that we had on. And the wrestler we had on. His name is Kip and he's one of my closest friends, and he wanted me to let everybody know that he is indeed much bigger than spawn Wave. And I was only kidding. I was only I thought it was kind of obvious that I was only getting But I was only joking. I was just trying to gass up Spawn But I doesn't need it. No, it's true. I've seen his ads. Great guy, where's the camera, where's the main camera? Oh no, your camera, your camera's here, great love spawn Wave. He's too big. I don't get it when he posts photos of himself like shirtless at the gym, sweating and like it gonna be to too many games. It's unnecessary. I mean, I'm trying to get them, trying to catch up to him, but Ki kIPS out of the realm of possibility almost because he's a wrestler, he's supposed to be big. Yeah, anyway, I was just kidding, and I apologize sincerely to my dear friend Kip uh Okay Packs, Penny or kid you did you book it? Because when you sign up for packs and you get the media badge like we did, you get ass blasted with emails. Oh it's it's insane. It's so many, Like hundreds of emails come in with indie games and devs and publishers that want you to come play that games, check out that booth, and you have to schedule interviews. Have you seen anything cool that you're gonna check out while you're here? So I'm only here for the indie games, but man, like I care about the indie games that for some reason never get emails sent out. Anton Blast is going to be here, that's cool. I don't think I got an email for that. Athenian Rhapsody, fro gun Encore at the top had booth, I don't think I got an email for that. But I got these emails for like, oh, we got Zombie Slayer eight and you want to come play it, and like, no disrespect to indie devs, but when we get fifty to one hundred emails about scheduling our stuff, yeah, not a chance I'm gonna be able to get to all of them. Now. I picked a few that I really wanted to do. One that I really want I really want to do, but I don't know what's happening with it. Is Sudu fifty one, you know him? Fifty Yes, is Shadows of the Damned here, Yeah, Shadows of the Damn Remasters. Hey, but not only that he is here. Oh that's cool, and I booked an interview with him. Oh, I'm gonna go meet him. And he's one of my favorite developers of all time. He's made Lollipop Chainsaw, Shadows of the Damn Normal Heroes. But I got an email last night that said he might be sick. We're not sure if he's coming, but you can come still play the game. So I don't know what's happening with that. I hope I get to meet it. He's one of the most energetic. I've met him once and he's so energetic that they just he comes off as a guy who would make no more heroes. Yeah, I was excited. I wanted to practice my Japanese. I think I met him like twenty everyone's Bubb's met him. Yeah, everyone's Bob and I met him. I met him him, and then I met him before when they were showing off. I forget where they were showing off, but he Yeah, he was super nice and bubbly, like he Bob was like, Yeah, I met him. I didn't know what to say, so I left. That's Bob. Yeah, that's just he doesn't it. I hadn't played any of his games. Bub doesn't play games. When you're a YouTube you don't have to play games. That's fake it till you make download footage. Just play every Kirby. It's pretty good. It's gotten me places. Speaking of which, Yeah, let's talk about Agon, my lovely esteemed artist. Let's talk about you in general. That's a nice shirt. So that's your merch No, no, no, no, it's just Kevin used to make a lot of shirts and it had Kirby on it. No, herbyan is a sonic thing on it, so I had to buy it. But yeah, his art's always incredible. Uh so you love Kirby, that's kind of would you say you'll claim to fame. Yeah, yeah, I didn't want to stereotype. You just know it is puffball. No, I'm okay with it. There's worse things to be associated with, so I'm okay whenever a pink puff the thing is. Also, Nintendo loves Kirby with the passion. I feel like that's the most loved franchise Nintendo has. No one loves Kirby more than themselves. Works out easy for me, that's true. They pump out whatever garbage game they want every year, and they're always like at least somewhat decent, and it works out. It is very random because I never see Kirby as like an old stop on not intended. Yeah, but he gets more games awesome than anybody else works for me. So yeah, it's a Kirby created great for me. Man, that's pretty awesome. Yeah. You how often do you upload? Is it bi weekly at this point? Because you have videos take a lot of work. Yeah, so the schedule is weird now, it's at least I'm hoping once a month. The videos are just getting longer and whatever the algorithm wants, the videos are just getting longer. But I have a second channel now that I just call my trash channel where I just throw whatever I want. I did a video on another code for switch. Did you play it? No? Yeah, Nintendo, not even the biggest Nintendo tubers played another card. No one cared, No one cared about it. But is it? What is it? That's the story? Basic getting into Oh like three people, like three people have like brought this up to me on the podcast, and every time I'm like, what is that? And I forget every time. It's a shame on the second channel. I'm able to pump out whatever I want and try to do that stuff weekly, and that's cool. Just like video games, it's all yeah, but I got to succumb to whatever the algorithm wants. So do you actually like how much? Is Kirby actually your favorite? No? No, it's it's Is it even top ten? Yeah? Yeah, no, it's definitely top ten. It's because there's so much Kirby to enjoy. Yeah, and there's so many different takes on it. There's more bad Kirby than good. That's objectively not true. Really, even even on the Switch system alone, most of the games are really not at all. Okay, Okay, you're gonna go into this. You like you like Star Allies? No, No, Star Allies was very Forgotten Lands incredible. You like the Dream Buffet? Yeah, oh, Buffet was great, Okay. The online community was give Hihim a glutton just there's it's just he gets really fat and goes into a cake. It was fun, okay, yeah, but just the online community was dead immediately because no one plays. No one else plays those games. Yeah, the Kirby Fighters had online, no one played it. They but it works out for me for content, and I enjoy the games, but yeah, no one else was playing them. How many active players do you think the dream Buffet currently has currently? Yeah, if you have to guess, i'd be impressed. If you can get any full game going of eight, oh god, I would be bad. Yeah, no one plays them. What it is? It's great though, Yeah, not for you, No, not for more than eight people. You said more Curby games are bad than good. Which ones have you played? I played dream Buffet, I played Forgotten Land, which I liked. That one along good Star Allies, which I hated. I didn't play the one that looks like Star Allies that just came out that was a remake of something for Turner Dreamland. Yeah, because Star Allies burned me. What else is on the switch? Give me a list. You've played five of the thirty plus Kirby games and they're just making this wild to claim up an apology for next week. Okay, if there is a thirty games, what's the quality control? They're all great? Okay, list me some the Dreamland trilogy, Game Boy and Super Nintendo are really good, account good Superstars really good. Squeak Squad is decent. What are the other ones? Got them to triple de Luxe playing a robobot. Uh. The spin offs are good, Pinball start, They're all at least decent. Okay, Yeah, I mean all the ones that get brought to the classic systems are going to be classics. Yeah, so that's fair. That is fair. I meant more than the ones that are being made now. Forgoten Land was good. Yeah, Forgotten we can agree on that. That said, like Forgotten Land is such a good game. No one argues it. People just know it's going to flick at the art and be like they did good. Yeah, that was one of my favorite games from Switch. It was a lot, It was a lot of fun. Yeah. But I really enjoy your content, thank you. Thinks. I don't really watch many creators or keep up with many creators, but I'd say at least over the last two or three years, I've watched a majority of your content that you uploaded. I really do enjoy it. It's similar to the kind of content that I enjoy to create. We have different styles, but when I do my more long format reviews and it bounces between me on camera and me not on camera doing a voice or over thing, it's just similar vibes. So I really. I appreciate what you create and I have a lot of fun. It's a much more common format. All the other people were just coming out of the woodworks to do their own take on the same comedic. Yeah whatever AVGN format. Yeah, it's not so much a thing anymore. It it's fading away. But I just like talking about video games in weird history. I did a video on the rabbits the stupid things from movies soft and that was fun. I watched that one, thank you. I watched it while plant on a fantasy. It was a good one. You say it's fading away like that format of YouTube review, but you're seeing nothing but more success. I feel it's weird. The views have not really stopped. It's just it's not as it wasn't really competitive, but it used to be five six years ago, before the pandemic, like at least two dozen people, three dozen. Maybe we're just like trying to do the same thing. Yeah, I guess back before when the videos were just like ten fifteen minutes long. As the algorithm changed, it just wasn't viable on anymore. For other people who make good content like shout Out Nitro, Red Square Eyed Jack a bunch of people out there still make really good content, it's just not as like cool. Yeah, yeah, you know, butter Gamer still does that stuff. But he just had a kid, so he's probably slowing down. Yeah. I think maybe it became too oversaturated. But also people are so they have such easy access to creation tools now, being able to make whatever they want, even if it's just short form TikTok content. Yeah, that your shorts or stream I think it just doesn't impress people anymore. Like the way content is made, especially when you have people like Misterbeast who do these incredible, fantastical things and then anything else seems really low key. It becomes more about the opinion or the point that's being made or the conversation in the content, rather than how the content is presented. Because you could literally these days just shoot a TikTok with no editing and get a couple million views as long as you have something to say. And I think it's the same even with long form video content, like you can you can highly edit a twenty minute video with fun animations and all these crazy cuts and editing that people can do. But if you're not saying anything, if you don't have a point in your content, no one's going to care anymore. Yeah, before that was all it took. Yeah, as long as it looks flashy, I would imagine when the switch to happens soon, it happens very soon, a revitalization of interest in that type of stuff will come back. I think because we're in like this weird lull, we'll talk about it with the PS five. But I think console gaming right now is in such a boring spot. Oh, we can go straight into that if you want. Yeah, I just think console gaming is such a boring spot. There's nothing really to say. Yeah, retro gaming is not really hot anymore. No retro big random games off your shelf and playing. Yeah, it's unfortunate, but yeah, I mean there's a reason why my content pivoted away from retro gaming years ago. At this point. Yeah, I mean almost like a seven, almost a decade ago at this point, doing retro content outside of like whatever Rise of Kong, whatever these random bad license games are, there's not as much interesting stuff to say. I don't know. I think Sony and PS five and Xbox are good consoles, but it's this is the most boring console generation I've ever seen. Yeah, No, it's so bad. It's so bad, especially with Xbox it's been ridiculous. But I think the streaming service or whatever the subscription service is off for enough games. But god, that's so boring. Yeah, if Sony's actually releasing a PS five Pro, it's the dumbest waste of time I've ever seen in my life. It just revealed that they spent so much on PSVR too, that they're just going to be not backstocked on units for however long because they're not selling anything. I have mixed thoughts on all of that. I don't think you're wrong necessarily. The PSVR thing is an absolute nightmare. I don't understand how they put the time and effort into creating another VR headset just to immediately drop support for it. No promotion, no ads, no other games that I know have have come out. Oh less support than the Vita. It got less support than the first VR, which failed technically, like it didn't do very well. Yeah. So like, I don't understand what their thought process was there that they think that cool of the Mountain Horizon demo game was going to carry the entire thing. Yeah, But as far as making a PS five Pro, yeah, it seems stupid because the the generation has been so lackluster, and it's like, do we really that But honestly, if you look at the specs of it, I don't know if we're able to bring that up easily what it's leaked supposedly able to do. I feel like that's what the PlayStation should have been able to do to begin with. So I don't I didn't catch I don't remember all the leaks. Isn't it like I don't know the three times ward terror flops, which I still don't know what a terrorflop is. It's well, we'll bring it up so we're not speculating too much. Some level AI up skin. But yeah, theoretically, I think what I remember is it's supposed to be. That's a lot of jarging. I think there was like a dot point somewhere that actually broke down, but that doesn't requate to anything. Yeah, there's an a I don't know if it's in that article. Maybe I link the wrong thing, but go down and see if they kind of equivalate it more. There was somewhere I probably linked you the wrong thing, unless it's all the way at the bottom. Yeah, I might's the wrong thing. I saw someone do like a breakdown of what that actually means, like what that will actually give us, And you're right, it was something like three times off in certain cases, four times faster processing. We're supposed to be able to get eight K with AI upscaling some Here's here's the thing though, where I feel like this is ridiculous because of the generation and the games we've gotten, and it's like, yeah, this this boring generation, but this is all the stuff that I feel like we should have had at the start, being able to do four K sixty fps what they advertised that should have been, yeah, we're getting this console now, but this should have been what we got at the start of all of this. Just okay, So the games we're getting, the first party exclusives, they aren't that frequent, they're all very seemy, but the same CPU, oh my god, memory at least at the very least, can we play these games at four K sixty And you know, in in the Year of Our Lord, Rebirth not run at sixty four K. No four K Nintendo brings sixty four. So I'm playing Fun fenty seven Rebirth right now, and I am doing it in performance mode. At thirty because just the sorry the performance mode at sixty because the four K thirty was so like choppy and I haven't played it. Is it locked the four K thirty when you blasted at full max? Yeah, oh you can't. You can't do I mean, there's no I don't think there's any first party I might be wrong. Games that do four K sixty on the PlayStation or any console, then I don't that would match. I don't think Spider Man did. No, I'm think sure that was also thirty frames. You want to see more? That's fine. What a stupid generation this is? We know what EL was, Just stupid generation. The reason why the title I didn't know what to put for a title because I didn't know what we were going to talk about today, really, But the leak situation I wanted to talk about is how ridiculous that we're sat here talking about the PlayStation five Pro that's calming at the end of the year, and we have all the specs for it, that we're talking about the switch too, which has been delayed to twenty twenty five. None of this has been announced. Xbox is supposedly releasing hardware this year. They said that like when they did the Xbox said that when they did their big thing where they were well, at least Xbox said that. Yeah, because PlayStation hasn't mentioned anything about the pro, Nintendo hasn't mentioned anything about the switch, and yeah, we know everything, which is so not exciting yep, like because whatever these companies actually do reveal these things were like, yeah we know, yeah, I hate that. Well, at least with the switch to I can perceive what it's gonna be already. And imagine games PS five What three games have really released that are exclusive? Some of them could already you could run on PS four if they really tried. Yeah, they keep they keep putting them on PC as well, and they're on PC. It's also a wild time for PlayStation because they even said recently, don't expect any first party sequels for like a year or two. You might get some other like new ips or things. But also here's a new console coming out. I was a portal. It was the portal last year. Can I say I have completely come around on the portal? So I have a Steam deck that has the there's a streaming app on that yeah five, And people say it runs better, really streams games better than the portal does. So I've talked about this. The portal came out, I hated it. Then I upgraded my router to like a beast router and that fixed all my issues. I've pretty much I've played like fifty five hours of Final Fantasy Rebirth and pretty much all of it was on my portal and not a single stutter and it looked amazing. And I'm having a blast with it. Okay, you can't leave the house with it, No you can't. But I played like Kim, We'll watch like we've been watching Bachelor. We've we've blasted through all of Bachelor, all of ninety day. Oh and I sit there, I sit there on my little portal playing. Uh yeah, I know you need. I worked on that show, did you? Yeah, dude, yeah, yeah, it's so good. Is that the show with the guy who put the mayonnaise in his hair? Yeah? I mean that's that's all. Now we're up to Gino and uh, what's Gino's wife's name? Jasmine? Yeah? From Panama. Yeah, I did a tell all with Darcy and Stacey. Also, that's crazy. What's who's Angela? Right her? Yeah? Yeah, she was a nightmare. But he's on the current season. She I know she saw me the second time. She goes, oh, I remember you, cutie, and I was like, I need to leave right now. Time. You don't want to date mema. No, but yeah, I watch I watch shows like that because I don't really need to watch it to listen to it. So the screaming and crying while while I'm playing my Final Fantasy, it's good stuff. So you're not you're not looking forward to the PlayStation five pro. I wish, I like, I just wish I could. I think gaming and is in a good spot in terms of games that are releasing. There's a lot of good stuff to play. Yeah, but just in terms of the console generations, I just both companies really are just putting no. I I know, I love Game Pass. I play my Xbox more than I play oh yeah, these primary consoles. The one thing they've nailed is like games on demand and like giving you an extensive library of backwards compatibility, and then the streaming type games and then the Game Pass and all of that just a huge library. Plus is a good lineup too. Why make new ones when we've been making them for the last twenty years, you know. So meanwhile, Nintendo's releasing all these games that people, it fills out their release calendar, but no one plays them. You didn't play another code. No one played another code. Oh yeah, but that's no one's playing Marvels. That's not let's not up based all the Nintendo's releases on another code. I'm just saying. People played Tears of the Kingdom, people played Forgotten Land. But that's what That's what I want Sony to do. They have this crazy library of franchises. Just pumps some rapp of the Rapper, the Rapper Ape, Escape, Legend, Dragoon. They have all these franchises that they just sit on. Yeah, when Sean Layton was around, he was pumping. He got vib ribbon back. That was crazy. Would you want like, because Naughty Dog's not going to do it, would you want another team to take like Jack and Daxter and make that. Yeah, I mean that's what I want Banjo to be. They should I don't need Rare to do. You know what they should do. They should hire a toys for bubb now that they're doing their own thing, and get them to make Jack and Daxton next Jack and Daxter trilogy. I just like platformers, Yes, but it would fill out the scalet the schedule just fine. Apparently they're making a gravity rush movie. Oh movie, that's what we need, more movies. Did you medal show that was so bad? It was okay? I like Anthony mackiw a lot. Did you watch the uh the ca one, the Grand aristhmo? Yeah, the full title Grand Arismal based on a true story. They made sure that's in the full title of it. No, I did not watch Grant. We're on our flight and it had it and it's and it says Grand's Arismo based on a true story. That's the full story. That's the full that's the story the game. It's like, I think a kid who wanted to be a race driver and then played Grand Chrismon on PS one to live his dream. Like it's actually it's actually a real story. They made sure to let me know because it's in the title. Was the guy from Stranger Things in the in part of the real story or is he? I don't know the biopan. I didn't watch it, so I don't know. I didn't see if there's a plot twist in it. Damn. Though the Metal was okay. Samoa Joe was a sweet tooth. Yeah, the body double the body. Yeah, I know, I know. It's pretty funny. Yeah, but so bad. Speaking of games, love games. We uh we mentioned we're at packs. I didn't mention this, but we're gonna try and attempt. We don't have to do it right now. You can do that. We can do the read first. Yeah, but we're going to try and attempt to have someone our friends Matt and Kayla call in from the show floor because we haven't had a chance. I haven't gone in yet to go ye there, but we're not there. Who's there? I got the people have been oh your buddy, they said Boogie. No, absolutely, not not a fan. Sorry, is that a hot take? No, I'm not a fan either at all. It's not a heart take it or we could address the Boogie situation. Addressing the situation. So we're gonna try cutting to them at some point because I want to see if they can find the Nintendo's on the floor. So it's just Pokemon. Well no, so I've been texting him. He they are there somewhat, but we'll go okay. He texted me, going, yeah, they actually put the switch to away and I was like, what, what are you talking to troll me now as I'm panicking about making sure this show goes. So we're gonna tempt that. But the reception on the floor can be spotty. They have tested it and they face timed out and it worked, so we've gotta see we can get some live on the scene reporting from packs, which would be really exciting, because yeah, we haven't had It's Thursday. We haven't had a chance. You're here doing the podcast. I'm here doing the podcast. I don't need to be on the floor all four days. No, it's a long show. I came in early to do this with you. Yeah, yeah, I have no Last year we came in, we picked up a badge on the Thursday, took a couple of pictures with Link holding his hand out. That was cool, and then bailed and I got the Link pin, which is I guess worth like fifty dollars on eBay now really, Oh, I have that. It was a Pax exclusive pin, so it's pretty price. I gotta find that. Yeah. But yeah, last year we went Friday and Saturday. I think this year to be Friday and Saturday, and I'm probably head out on Sunday. Saturday. There's a Park the Boston Commons. That's here. They had the pigeons and squirrels are so friendly, so we we get to pet them. So if you want to pet squirrels and pigeons, I would love to do. That's the place. That's what we're doing on Saturday. On Saturday. Saturday, you don't even go onto the show on Saturday. No, we're gonna go tomorrow, and we're gonna go Sunday. I always text Aunt while we're here and like, hey, you want to hang out? He was like, I'm not even near the show floor right now. I'm like, that's funny. It's too tiring of a show. If if you do this as like a news thing, like when I did all the Blockhead stuff, like being there every day, you just have to make it work because you're covering so much crass dude, Tomorrow see everything, and then exist for the other two days. Why I was gonna I'm making a video about upcoming switch games, so I gotta at least go and check out a few things Friday and Saturday. But are you guys gonna go after this or nothing? I'll yeah, I don't know what time they close. I think six. I'll get we'll get our badges. Yeah, probably take a peak, take a little peak, peek, a little looky peepee peak. You can do the sponsor. I love sponsors. Well, get ready, here's one. Let's go okay any second. This episode, a non tender is sponsored by Trade. Trade followed us all the way to Boston. 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It's too much? Uh? Too much? This is like his thing. This is a little fun goofy gimmick is every episode we have a fun little goofy thing. But I did throw this one on a kind of like last night, kind of today that we were going to do this. Okay, yeah, okay, there we go. Oh here we are. We also see all of your discord. If you're okay with that, you might want to make it. You could make a full screen Scott. Wasn't you're talking to Scott? Make it? Make up? Make a full scream? Can you do that? Does that ruin it? There you go? Hey, Matt, can you hear us? I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yeah? I can hear you, buddy, Thank you so much. This is Matt from Needless Things, No Problem, the creator of the non tender sign and table. That's me. Uh so what do you see there? Live on the floor at packs, Buddy? I see some can see yes? Oh do you want me to flip it her ount? Yeah, that'd be great. There you go. Oh Pokemon, isn't that the Pokemon stand? Yeah? We got uh Scarlet and Violet and Detective Pikachu and Legends archaias detective detected Bikachu. Why don't you go get a bit of a bit of a gameplay download on that when you have a minute. I was, I was, that was good, and then uh, I'm just gonna walk around and Nintendo a booth for you. You can see my wife doing art right now. Very nice. Oh really, what is what is that? What is the Oh that's so cool. It's just a big chalkboard thing they have so for what listeners? Pokemon Evy chalkboard that you can just pick up chalk and draw on. That's so cool. Yes, So to get the good is you either have to play the demos or right on the wall. And the line for the wall was shorter, and then they have ev super extra on that. Yeah, and then we have ev over here. Yeah, that's the entrance and it's a big stuff. Actually, that's so cute. So that's all they have is the Nintendo booth. They put away the switch to before we got here. Oh man, what did it look like? Uh? It was was pretty awesome. It's actually just the wee you over again. Oh cool. Hell, that's what we will over. Had two game pads and left battery life. So yeah, but that's it for the Nintendo booth and then you do get oh this for completing it. Oh oh cool you get you get a pack of Pokemon cards and a coin. Yeah, so that's the convention. This is just Nintendo's booth, but they only have Pokemon there. So Pokemon also has a big booth in the middle. That's so funny. Then that, like, Pokemon was announced to be going forever ago, and then a couple of days ago Nintendo's like, and we're also going to be there with Pokemon. Yeah, they don't have other than Pokemon there. Uh. Killer Clowns from Outer Space has a pretty cool setup. That's cool. What is that? It's uh, and Balderskate has it's it's one of those asymmetric horror games. But yeah, it's from my old eighties movie. Yeah, okay, that's cool. And then bolt Aldersgate has a huge set up up front. Oh really, what are they doing? Which we can walk over to that if you want. Yeah, I'd love to see that. I think you can play the game. Then they have the merch booth and they have a bunch of I don't know, it's like a big castle got oh wow. Yeah. Some of these developers I remember last year, if a cold of the Lamb devolve a digital giant cult totem was like it was insane. Yeah, there's some really cool booths. So this is the backside of that. You got the merch food. Oh, they have a big octopus ship. The mind flashes as you can tell. Uh, both the packs. I remember, we're moving a little further away from the door. There we go. It's not bad, it's fine. You can see. Oh is that a mind mind flawer right there? Yeah, what they got and they have liked cosplay of the gift Yankee. I don't remember her name. Oh and Shot her name? Her name is like I forgot what I name it, but abbreviated it shot. I'm pretty sure that sounds funny. Okay, there's a bunch of dead edds just there. Oh yeah, yeah, me too. I mean she's probably like drawing on the Pokemon ball, I would assume. Okay, is there, I can't hear you. I think we're losing the connection a little. Is there anything else cool nearby that you can show us? Okay? Most of the other stuff is like kind of on the other side. Okay, Well, if you can do anything else, if you find anything else cool, feel free to message you and be like, hey, I found something cool. Can I cool back? In even if it's like, you know something, something silly, you want to show us on the floor. Okay, like the Dunkin Donuts booth. Yeah, like the Dunkin Donuts booth. What does Duncan have a booth? Okay, thank you, Matt. Let us know if you find anything else cool. Okay, we'll do thank you, buddy. Yeah, Talent all has a booth too, Thailand, All right, I think it was Talent has a booth. It's one of those. So get all of your Duncan coffee caffeine and then heads straight to the tailand old booth to calm down. Probably free energy drinks also, so you can just get yourself a bunch of uppers and downs at the Mountain Dew. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I am excited to check out the floor. It looked less. It looked like the first day. It's not even like people, but like the booths last year, I remember it was like hot to even walk around. Yeah, it was so many booths. Yeah, there's not a great deal happening right now. I feel like in the gaming industry, and it's also kind of a rough time in the gaming industry because like all these developers are getting laid off. All these companies are closing down and now with like celebrating gaming at PATS. I mean, my favorite thing with Packs to be positive about gaming is the indie game stuff. So you go past yeah, Nintendo, whenever Sony was here, there's all the small booths in the back that have just these random indie games. The developers are so nice and friendly. Uh, and they were doing the some of the most interesting stuff out there. No, I agree, Anton Blast, Athenian Rhapsody, fro Gun. It's not not indie, but indie creates this here and they have a new megamuent Bound that work like game that they announced yesterday, and that seems pretty cool. It's cool. That's pretty cool. So, like, all the smaller stuff is what I'm usually into, and Packs is great for that. Yeah, I want to see indis that's the place to go. Yeah, that's a triple A industry is crumbling and burning right in front of every eyes. You mean you mean the quadriple A industry. Now, we had our first quadriple a and bones right, yeah sick? Yeah, I did. I did it feel quadruple a? Well it's the first one of its kind, so yes, it did. It felt like a quadruple A game. First of it'sn't just see If Thieves? But well no, they said it's the first ever quote, so they say a lot of things. So it is. It is. It feels exactly like a quadruple A game. It's the only one I have reference for. I hope we don't get any more of quadriple A games. I hope that's a one and done because that they're not as good as as Triple A. Funny enough, Yeah you thought they You think less is more? You think they would be. I think, yeah, the less as the better. Yeah, yeah, what's a double A game? Uh? Is that a thing? It was more of a thing back like Game QPS two? What it's even an A game? Did they just skip A and double A and just this is triple A? Double A used to be like games that were pretty decent but had no budget so they would meet like reach a very niche audience like Game QPS two era. Are you making that up? Or is that what they were? Actually that's what I used to describe it as. Okay, now like gaming is just indies and Triple A, like there's not much of a of a wide range. Yeah, We've had this conversation before too, But the indie games are so ranging in quality now because of of how much indie games have blown up in general, that you have indie games, but then you have what some indie developers called triple eyes because they're so but think about it. Think about think about it though, like games made by like develop A Digital or you know, publishers that have a lot of money to pump into their games as opposed to one guy making his first indie game. But they're still all considered indie games. I guess, like, well, like the New Mina, The Hollower, the New York Club Game. Yeah, that would be a Triple I. Yeah, triple It's an indie game, but it's Triple I as opposed to Uh, I don't know it. Just I reviewed a game recently that was made by one guy Balatrow. Have you played that? I just played it for the first time. Yeah, fun, right, I couldn't. It's I can see why people are spending eighty ninety hours in it. Yeah, it's so fun. It's a roguelike deck building card game that's kind of based on Polka. Yeah, but it's so much fun. It's made by one guy. That's an indie game lethal company by one guy too. That would be wild if it is, But I could, I could see it because it's kind of JANKI yeah, but it works. Yeah, that's where the most fun is. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Gaming is in a weird spot. Where do we go from here? You put Summer Games Fest on the list. We talked about games in a weird spot? Yeah, that's true. Are we even excited for that? Again? It's such a weird place. Like I saw that Summer Game Fest announcement pop up and I kind of sighed. I was like, I don't know if I'm ready. Yeah, you can just talk about the industry as a whole because it's a dumpster fire right now. My whole thing. With all this, I think I respect the hell out of Jeff Keeley for what he does wants to do for the industry. I think he's a net positive for the industry. He can't put on a good show to save his life. Really, what about game awards? I do agree with that there's super it's always super boring, And like, I think game awards are so mismanaged because some of the awards that could be cool, they just have like a woman on the side of the screen be like and this one, let's move on, and that's it. The awards are handled really crappy. They've gotten they've got him better over the years, Like now they actually show like a real of like best Actor, here's the performance, best song, here's a clip from the song. Previous years, they would just be like best actor this guy, and you'd be like why though, Yeah, at least now they actually show the performance and stuff. They are trying to flesh it out, but they still take half of their awards and just blast through them. Yeah, like win, win, win, win win. I think he's trying to appeal to everybody. Who can't appeal to everybody. He's trying to miss a beast it. Yeah. I went to the Game of Wards in twenty seventeen and it was the same year as the last PSX, and that was the only reason why I want was because we went for PSX and it was fun. Actually going is cool because you get the first interact with people and do stuff. But yeah, watching it, I don't care about Yeah, I have no interest. Yeah, So I gave Jeff enough shots as a fan to put on a good show. I just don't think he can do it like I think. I don't figure if it was Summer game Fest when the Sonic game got announced Sonic Super and that was like the only game people seemed to be hyped about. I liked that game. But if that's the most exciting game you got out a four hour show, I guess none of that stuff is really his Jeff's fault. Yeah, he's gonna say think but really, after picking the industry for ten years doing this stuff, you'd be able to finagle your way into some cooler announcements. I mean, I think it's tough when you do a game show every year at the same time you really are I would have differently if Jeff also before every show was like I just saw this new trailer. You guys, You guys aren't ready. This is gonna my like, your lives are gonna be so different when you see this trailer, it's gonna blow your mind. And it's another space shooter, like, okay, cool, And then we're gonna talk about stupid Kadima for thirty minutes because their best he's my favorite. One last year was when they were talking about the what's that? What's the developer that made the space game No Man Sky, Hello Games, hellow games How they were like, last time you were here, you over hyped your game, and then then they just straight up over hype to the new game again together with Jeff Gayley and I don't know Jeff. Recently with not talking about layoffs and stuff, he's I'm starting to get robbed the not talking about like because he would keep tweeting. He was tweeting. I forget what hyped thing he talked about, but it was like the week thousands of people lost their jobs across different companies and just didn't refer to any of it. Yeah, it's just weird. What do you want him to say though, Just acknowledge it. He's talking about how great the industry is. Yeah, I mean it could be the same what I said. Games are in a good spot in terms of what's releasing. There's a lot of fun games out there, but the industry is on fire. Yeah that's true. Bad, Yeah, it's tough. And then yeah, we're supposed to go in a summer game fest game fest baby whoa and like celebrate everything happening in the gaming space when everything's actually on fire. Yep. Three, just being real, I actually had fun doing that. I kind of do miss E three. I only miss it for the spectacle because yeah, I give me a reason to go to LA and also there's just so much stuff going on at that time. I preferred the format of E three because it was a bunch of publishers and developers putting on their own show in a concise week of like show slots, and they brought their best stuff, and there wasn't a great deal of talking at least trades. By the end of it. It was a real trade shoe, it wasn't. You just got the updates in like a forty five minute show for each person, or the larger channel's got like an hour sometimes more. But it was filled and then you get out. You know, packs is a show, sure, but it's not a trade show. It's not like CS or NAB like these like real this is for the industry. E three was that, and then they I mean, you know, I can't say anything because it gave me a platform to do stuff on. But still, like, I don't know, I like the whole industry day. Give it to us first and then let everybody else come and check it out. I agree. I'd love for I'm all down for more celebrations of games because there's a lot of cool stuff going on. But I don't know. I just don't think Jeff can do it, honestly, So how would you do it? How would you do Jef's job for him? I would just try to focus on a lot of the smaller doves. Not everything needs to be about the Triple A Games. I think it's obviously they have the most money, and I think that's how they finagle their way into the show because they pay the most money. But I think the most interesting stuff always happens from not Triple A Games, and they get some cool stuff now and then, like I think Eighties two was announced, I won and that was a big surprise. They announced the series X one of the Game Awards and that was like pretty exciting. But every time they do their World premiere and I always come out tired. So I mean, just try to find a better do a better job looking at Twitter, see what interesting games are coming out, because Twitter is honestly as much of a help it Twitter is in terms of people getting their games out there that they're working on. There's a lot of cool stuff being made. I don't think you're wrong, and I think I agree that when we when we avid video gamers that play everything, including indie games, and we acknowledge that there are a lot of other experiences out there, and sometimes there's experiences come in smaller packages that can be just as fun. Like obviously you played Bauco, which you seem to agree that was yeah, a lot of fun. But you give that to ninety percent of the general gaming community at large, and they're going to be like, what is this? Where's my guns? Where's my call of duty? So when you're putting on a massive spectacle of a show, I mean, if you've ever streamed it or reacted to it, and you've seen the live chat, whenever it's the indie game, whenever it's the artistic sort of oh that's an interesting concept kind of game. The chat's always l l l z z z snooz snow snooze. But then you get like that cinematic trailer that you and I watch and we're like, there's no gameplay. This game could be anything. It's a dime. A dozen chat is exploding with what is this? When's it come out? What's the release date? It's cool? Yeah, So I think it's difficult to balance that because the more indie special gems you put into a big blockbuster event with World Premie Yere, the more people tune out and say, what the hell was that? Where were the good games? Yeah, I mean that's how State of Plays kind of are too. I come out of most State of Plays like that was boring, but some of the hardcore Sony fans are like that was great. Yeah, And there's just such a disconnect there. But like Jeff tries to appeal to everybody, I think, and I think that's a problem. I think just acknowledge that it's just you're trying to do a mainstream thing. Yeah, and no nothing, no disrespect to esports people. I understand that that is actually like genuinely takes a lot of time and effort to dedicate like six or seven awards to esports teams and coaches and stuff, and then when Jeff expects me to go in and vote for these people, I have no idea what they are. Yeah, you know, he really tries to like appeal to every single thing, and there's always something that comes out of it. By the end of the show, like Jeff didn't know how to read the room. But it could also just be appealing to social media. I don't know. That's just how I come out of it. The awards are a mixed mash of things. I always find it weird when I'm voting for the awards and then I get to the esport creator portion of it all. Yeah. Also, what's the difference between the Best Game of the Year and game Best Game Direction? Yeah, I know, I always yeah, I know, I agree. Well, stuff like that, I think, and then there's like there's I can't remember what the other one was. It was like best Multiplayer Game, and then Best co Op Game, and then Best Family Game, and it's like it's all the same best games that's still supported. Yeah, like last year too. Yeah, and they're always the same five games in the list. There's always No Man's Sky in Fortnite, yeah, and then Genschin stuff like that. So I think, well, that's also the Game Awards. Also, this is not that different. There's always Content Creator of the Year, and it's ever always before in my life. I've never saying I need to be on there. I'm just saying it's weird. I've never seen these people before. I do not in any way, shape or form think I qualify as a content Creator of the Year if I ever qualified for that, even at my peak would have been a few years back, and I don't think even then I qualified for something like that, like such a bride, I don't want to be in it. I'm just saying that so I can now say it's always streamers, yeah, not content creators as far as someone that's actually creating like content, and it's always people that you've never heard. There's like one person there every year. I'm like, I guess I'll vote for them because I've seen them on a stream Yeah, you know, I feel like there needs to be Streamer of the Year if you're gonna do that, and then like long film content creator or something like that. And to further my point, I find it ridiculous that Scott has never been at least nominated. That's insane, at least nominated very much. That is a content creator. He got himself on TV. Yes, crazy, that is crazy, Like I know G four is dead now, but the fact that he was just able to get the stuff you already made on national television, yes, insane. I agree. If you could pick right now this year's Game Awards content Creator of the Year. And here's the thing is, Scott, I think it deserves to be in every list. But even then, I feel like he should have been a couple of years ago at this point, because I don't know if he's doing anything necessarily this year that stands out over his other years. But like this year or even if you're thinking in the last like year or two, what is your content? In my mind? First, Summoning Salt, Oh, never heard of him? Really? Yeah, that's on the these really deep histories of speed runs. Okay. He'll just take like a random game or category of game and go into like this fifty to sixty minutes, sometimes like an hour and a half. It's very much a documents deep history of like just this one game speed run okay, And it's so interesting. His music choices are great, Like God, Summoning Salt is a star, Like I don't know how many subscribers he's at now, but he's skyrocketed, Like I'll put it on my list. I want to Summoning Insult is awesome. So that was the first name that came to mind. He did the the Myrocart one, right, we're about like how to get like the ten seconds or last Yeah, dude, that it's crazy and just specific levels too. He did like Rainbow Road. Just a video on Rainbow Road's like an hour here's blindfolded punch Out. I think I just didn't that was it. Wow. Yeah, it's great stuff. So that would be my guy. I don't know. I can't really say this year. I would think at some point Nankee Jake would have been a great nomination, maybe a year ago, a couple of years ago. Whenever a content creator uploads and you got it and it's like, we gotta stop what we're doing. Yeah, Well, Donkey about Donkey is another one. I mean, he's got games coming out this year, Big Mode, He's got Animal Well, which we played at packs last year. He'd be great to nominate this year for content creator gaming content Creator of the Year, actually supporting the game industry. I guarantee you he will not be there. It'll be five streamers. Again. It gets into conspiracy theory stuff. I think there are too many like investor hands in the bucket. Yeah. I probably wouldn't like Donkey's image, and I would assume he's too nonsensical of a guy. I mean a YouTuber one last year deservingly so actually I think she is awesome and deserve to win it. But nonsensical, Well, I don't know, that's my that's my thought. Yeah. I think about what these investors look at, and they look at Dunky just doing funny voices and stuff and his avatar for his game studios a big Frog. They might look at that and be like, I don't know, this doesn't seem well, then that's just that's that's just that's just proving our point of being out of touch. Oh, it's definitely even the case. It's definitely out of touch. Yeah. And granted that's just the Game Awards Summer games Fest a different thing, but I feel like the same thing still applies. And obviously us we should have been nominated. Absolutely, we've been in the game long enough. I know, right, need some grandfathered inn award just for putting in our time blood, Yeah, I need, I need, I need a grandfather award. We've pivoted so many times to things ten plus We've seen man ten plus years still hanging in there, canceled yet cutting it close at times. Yeah, bowl as a new most likely to get canceled on YouTube. I'm not dealing with this. She's gonna make their apology video next? Who do you think pretty one in the stream. Let's be real, who do you think out of you and me would have to make an apology video? Who do you think is gonna if one of us did? From here? Like, let's let's act like this is a high school thing where you're like feeling like the most likely to who's most likely to to? I'm pissing off more people on Twitter? You're true, you're very snarky on two, very snarky on which is what's what I usually like. It's so much fun to be fair, so much fun. Uh, but we both have people that just kind of hate us for no reasons. Oh, people hate so weird. People try and cancel me. And I'm not saying you can't. I don't need to be liked, that's fine, No, but some people just hate what we do. Yeah. People, No, people hate, people hate our existence. Yeah. I've had many talks with my therapist and and Kim who's my pseudo therapist about all of this, like why do why do people hate me? You know, like I'm part of this now too. You've been every week? Man, He's like, he sends me screenshots to comments like, please, do I do that to people too? I like it a lot of stuff. Oh, I'm just start sending them to mean now, I'm legitimately just trying to I'm just trying to figure it out, because for a while there I was trying to figure out what I can do different to not rub people the wrong way or to not have people I was like, what what am I presenting that I can change? But then through therapy recently and also just talking to Kim, I don't gotta change shit. No, Like, I'm just me, And if you don't like that, I am sorry, but I'm not gonna change for you. I'm just doing what I can here. I just I love Nintendo. I have a podcast about it, and I make video games about it. If you don't like that, you don't have to watch Shane Brees being snarky on Twitter just to be I like, I kind of like poking the beehive a little bit. I like poking the Beehive two when I I don't really tweet at all anymore because I hate the place, but whenever I do, one of my favorite things to do that rubs people the wrong way, even in these episodes. Sometimes I love playing dumb. I love just acting like I don't get something, or tweeting something like I don't know if you saw my tweet when the less direct was coming up, and I tweeted things we can expect, and it was a whole list of just like we're not like gonna get any of these things. It was like switch to It was Metro Prime four first look at gameplay, it was Mario cut ten Poke, I think Pokemon Day and Night or thing I wrote. It was like a whole list that ended up blowing up and getting like ten thousand likes and a bunch of retweets, and all the replies were like, this guy's a Nintendo guy, or like you really think that's gonna be a Mario cut? Like almost nobody. You had Bob on it. Bob thought I was serious. Oh you had Bob on the Bengo car. Oh yeah, I put just a picture of Bob's face on the Bingo card. And people took this so seriously. I think even my friend Kip, who I talked about earlier, when I saw him next he was like, so you really think to switch to? No, it wasn't Kip, but hi, Kim, nice to mention you again, Love you buddy. It was my YouTube manager. It might have been Kipped two. It was my YouTube manager. I had a call with him and he was like, so you really think to switch too? This was before the director. I'm like, what do you mean. He's like, I saw your tweet and I was like, I was like, no, that was a joke. Are you kidding me? And he's like, I don't know. I don't pay attention to switch stuff. You're my guy and I saw you tweet it, so I thought that was what was happening. And I was like, I I mean, yeah, I guess if I'm your guy, if I'm your only guy and you take me one seriously, I guess yeah. But I don't know. I thought I was like spoking at it. I think my last one, my latest controversy was during the State of Play when the Death Stranding two trailer happened. I went like ten minutes long and they didn't say it was the last trailer. I was like, this Kajema trailer is dumb and I don't understand the hype. Oh my god, you can't make fun of Kajima Kojima fans. Listen. They're the most defensive people I've ever seen, which is insane because they're getting the game that they want. Like if I make fun of F Zero fans, which I've done that too, understandable, they don't get their games, so they're all so upset. Fair enough, their Kojima fans are getting their thing, and they're still defending it like crazy. It's insane. I pissed off so many I mean with that Kojima tweet. To be fair, Kajima fans recently, with Death Stranding kind of went through the ring of having to defend his creative vision, and I think they just all have that backs against the wall, especially with a sequel for it coming out, which I didn't expect, and his new thing was a pH isn't was the new thing they also announced, Yeah, some it's gonna blend movies and video games together, nothing we've ever seen before. I feel like that's kind of what Death Stranding aimed to do as well, because it was essentially very movie like with the cut scenes and so many cut scenes, but also like even when you were like walking through certain areas of the game and then music would kick up and it would bring up the music title on the screen, it felt very cinematic. Sure, kind of like a music video or video. It felt like it felt like you were watching something more than playing it at times. Sure, I'm happy for them, I'm glad they got their game. Did you do not like it at all? Just not a codream? I think Kagem is insane. I think I love I think not having an an editor like an Ekonomia or whatever to be like, you're going to all why why why why stifle creativity? Well, if it's if it's just not for you, why would you want that? If if it's all for you and you don't like it, why would you be like you need someone to rein that in so I can enjoy it? Okay, So to have a genuine talking such a just poking the bear. Uh. The thing is, I don't think there's any cohesion with Deaths Raanding, at least in the terms of the way it's being advertised to me. If the trailer's job is supposed to make me watch him go, I want to play that. And when they did that for the first Deaths Raanding, I watched Norman Reeds pick off his big toenail, Like, I don't need to play this. That's disgusting. And now in this one there's like a low frame rate puppet, wooden puppet that hangs out with you. And then they got the other guy who has the water guitar, and it just seems so nonsensical and all this. Does it not sound cool? If those words you just said not sound cool, I mean it sounds like a very weird third party movie. There's also no gameplay in it, and I'm just tired of CG. I mean, I've seen trailers. Yeah that is fair, but also it's probably just more. But I think part of the issue when I tweeted it was Sony. Typically in these shows they go like, and this is the last game we're going to show, and it prepares you for it. They didn't say that. They just cut the next trailer and it was a nine minute death stranding trailer. I'm like, I'm waiting for this to end so I can see the next thing, and they didn't do that. So when I tweeted that the trailer is dumb, it's because I was waiting for it to end to see the next thing, which they didn't. I don't know. It was a whole cavalcade of things. I'm happy you guys are getting your game. It's not for me, That's fine. What all I like our cartoony platformers. I guess that's all I've been told that I like. So the last thing I'll say about Death Stranding is I just love wed and wacky man. That's why I wanted to That's why I wanted to meet Pseudo so bad, because his games actually remind me of Kajima games. I love Devil May Cry growing up. Those are weird and wacky, just those hacking slashes in general. And yeah, I mean Kojima is like that, but like another level, like his brain is just I don't even know where it is, and it's I'm seeing. I mean, I found on Death Stranding. Also, I loved it at the time. I loved I played it on release. I cried at the end. It's one of the few games it's made me cry. Really. Yeah, Okay, if you don't care about spoilers, I can tell you why later to golf Camera. Yeah, but yeah, it's just like stutterings the switch to in the New Curby game. That's all I care about. Switch to a swat twenty five. It got delayed. Yeah, but when uh you know what funny enough we'll probably get it announced probably maybe even around summer game Fest. All right, it's very it's very possible around that time of year. Yeah, it's a bigger deal. I think we've covered everything. Oh the illegal thing that I bought, Yeah, I talked about earlier. Yeah, I decided, we talked about this. I decided we lost picture. But that's oh it came back. I ordered a big switch. How do you feel about it? Just gave up. So I don't know exactly what the MiG switch is. I know that's the new that's the new way to can you just get the whole library? There's this SD card that you can download games too. So that's why I was so against the idea and was like, why would I want that. I've never had a hack switch. I don't want to contribute to piracy. So I avoided it. But then I had it explained to me by Spawn last week and outside of the podcast when he was on, and I was like, oh, I get that, and I kind of want that. Do you want to know about it? Yeah? So I really don't know. So, yes, you can do that, Okay, yeah you can. So it's a flash card essentially that you put into your switch. And you can just throw RUMs on it, like the Switch game RUMs on it. It is nuts. But the way I'm going to use it personally because I have absolutely no intention of pirating games, and anyone that thinks that I do is wild because you've seen my collection. I literally buy Switch games that come out that are sealed and I have no intention of playing, just because I need to own them. I have a sickness. Oh so do I I have like at least three hundred. I don't know about you. I have like at least three I have over seven hundred Switch games. Oh yeah, I know someone with a thousands that's physical. Yeah, well I have like hundreds digitally. Like actually, I also waste my money. Yeah, I have you to come check out the studios. I am a bigger nut than you. So the reason why I ended up buying it is because you can buy it with a dumper. Oh it's yeah, and I you know me love a good dumper, good dump. So what you do? What I want to use it for is I don't know about you, but I came to packs and I brought my switch and I brought like ten Switch games because I didn't know what I'd want to buy. I buy things physically. I'm a physical collector. The MiG switch. You buy the dumper, you stick your game into it, you dump it onto the MiG switch, and now you have your game portably the game that you paid for, and that is actually legal, legally in your right to take the license of the specific game that you bought and play it or do whatever you want with it. I mean play it, not do whatever you want with it. You can't like modit or anything like that. That becomes illegal again. But yeah, I decided that's actually sick because the amount of traveling I do. I want to go to Australia soon I'm here. I'd rather dump all of my games onto one cart. I'm also sick of always having to go through my seven hundred games one by one find something that I'm looking for that I want to play. It's a nightmare if they're all just on the one location. And also then if I happen to lose my switch or my bag or whatever, I'm just losing one sixty dollar flash card and I still have all of my games a lot of It sounded very practical to me, and I was like, you know what, I'm I'm gonna buy it. There's nothing that I would download because I have everything and if it comes out, I'm going to buy it, So I'm not buying it for illegal purposes. But also I figured it'd be a coore YouTube video and content is content, you know what I mean. So there's no morning you do with the switch. You just pop it in and it works. You just pop it in and it works. Insane. Yeah, you know, the only thing that sucks about it is how you have to switch between the games. We talked about it last week. So you put it in and it'll load up the first game file on the mix switch, you take it out, you put it back in, it'll load up the second game. So if you have two hundred games on your switch and you want to play game, being under it and not be unpractical, you have would take less time to go to your shelf and get the physical. You have this slotted in and out one hundred and fifty times to get to where you need to be, or you've unsold me on it. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing that we decided what we figured was a hack is you can get those things that you plug on your SWITCHDOC that have multiple switch cuts in there and you can switch between them. If you get one of those, you can switch that. You can switch between the games, but you can't go down. You can only go up. Yeah, so yeah, all right, I'm done. I don't care. I'm done. They're talking about making other versions of this cut that have like maybe a button on the top or a screen on it or something. Dude, it's this big, Like, how do you put a screen on that? Hoping to god it doesn't bide, don't know, like a calculator like like LCD things just has a number on it that just seems risky, you know. Then you then you have to put a battery in it too, and you already have the the SD card slots. There's already an indentation where the SD cart slot goes like, yeah, you're running out of real estate at that point. Yeah, that's crazy. It would be good if it like created a folder or something you could open and then select the game on the actual heart. It would be great. There's an actual game that loads up, yeah, just like you know, like a horn brew screen, you know, two hundred and one. Yeah, yeah, that would be cool. Actually, it has like a song it baked into it, like Old Shop music. Yeah, I'd be totally fine with that, but then it would immediately get taken down. There's no way Nintendo would let that be a thing, you think, I mean it's an app at that point, it's an application. Yeah, I think that's you have to get that green lit by Nintendo to work. No, I don't think so. Well. You need to have a model switch to do that and have a moded app. I think, yeah. I don't know if they could, they would be able to list that on the store, like I think that's where a thing. I don't know who knows they're not doing it. I'm just excited to play with my dumper dump. Yeah. I love good Yeah, I love a good dump. Gonna flash my dump dump. Don't hire your vide got a poop? Oh? What time is it? Oh? We got we got a packs to get to. What time is it? It's two ten? Oh? My god? Uh? Did he ever find anything else on the floor? Okay, you got anything? He died rest in peace? You got anything else you want to talk about? Deeo Kojima my favorite video game developer of all time. You made some enemies today? Oh yeah, no, I do. Do you like anything happening? Right now. Other than Kirby and the Nintender indie games, Yeah, my favorite thing. And I just played through Persona three. Yeah, I love that credible game. Yeah, they didn't sponsor me. Did they sponsor you? No? I didn't know they were doing sponsored some people. I don't got sponsored by them. Oh nice, No, right you do Nintendo guy specifically? No. So I played through Persona three. That game was great. I want to play Final Fantasy seven. It's so good. I've not played remake though, I'm kind of waiting to have to play kind of wait, yeah, I know. I'm kind of waiting for the hypeer, the third one to come out so I can just knock them all out instead of waiting five long games. Yeah, you get two hundred hours in that if you do that, I know. Well yeah, but if I prepare mentally for it, fair because when they announce it, it's going to be like two years down the line. Anyway, do you not have spoilersts for the first game already? I know I know the end of that. Have you played seven? I've also not play eight Original seven, but I know the spot, like, I know the story and I just need to experience it. But I know the end of remake. I know Rebirth has like it. Well, they're it's so, it's dirreaty out, it's advertise. Okay, I don't want to know, O. I don't. You might have noticed about me. I don't pay attention to things for the best. I don't know who anything is or what anything is. I don't know what's going on. That's for the best. I live in my own little world. No I I I still do love gaming. I think Triple A Gaming is in a very rough spot, but I have no shortage of games to play. I think there's so many cool indie games coming out. Go find your any indie devs on Twitter. They're always happy to like advertise their game. Twitter as much of a cesspit as it is. I've curated the algorithm enough to where a lot of times a tweet will show up of just some random person advertising their game with the wishless link on Steam and my wishes has like five hundred games on it now, oh my god, And now I have like this my Steam dog. I'm playing a ton of stuff like on that ton of indies on that Pizza Tower just got a new update. Peacha Tower is great. That's a great game. Uh yeah, so indies I love. Nintendo's always got my back. Uh, Sony and Microsoft have work to do, they hope. They both have work to do. The entire gaming industry has work to do. But indies are on fire. You see Final Fans of Rebirth sales? Oh, apparently they were bad, which is crazy to me. It's such a big release, in such a great game. It's better than the first one. It's because it's a PS five exclusive. That's wild. Yeah, the market's too high for PS four and it's one of the few PS five exclusives and it's sold I think weaker than Final Fantasy sixteen. That is actually insane, I believe. But Dragon Quest Monsters three, which was also Square Enix and on the Switch, sold like crazy. So that's crazy. I'm going to see a change. Companies all care about money, but they're not making the right calls. No, So well, what a sad note to end on. We don't games are fun. We do have a bonus episode to do for Patreon, which you don't have to around for. He don't want to. It's a half on album. I'm not here for packs. They always say yes. I feel like you guilt them a little bit. You don't have to. I guilt them. I mean I mean that I'm joking. Oh my god, you could leave. You can go, You should go, You should go. Can I take the water? Yeah, you can take the water. Every YouTuber bid is fake walking off camera? Right, everyone, please go support and do there's links down below. You can watch him on YouTube where he makes incredible content long form reviews and there's so much fun. Dude, players. 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