VI: Forging A Little Way

Descent Into Light

What happens when truth-telling threatens to cost you everything?

In Episode Six of Descent Into Light, “Forging A Little Way,” Sr. Theresa Aletheia and Sr. Danielle Victoria reach the moment where their paths converge. In this episode, we enter that stage of grief where the fog begins to lift and something new begins to rise. In our upward turn, we began to both see something new: a little way opening up before us. It wasn’t perfect. It wasn’t easy. But it was real.

This episode explores:

* The “upward turn” in grief, when clarity and courage begin to rise in the midst of loss

* Why preventing abuse requires people willing to be inconvenient

* The risk and fragility of founding a new community of sisters in today’s Church

* Why listening to survivors requires more than compassion—it demands systemic change

Acknowledgements

Special thanks to Nick and Corynne Staresinic for their invaluable help in producing this project.

Concluding Song by Kevin Heider, "The Body," 2018. https://kevinheider.com/thebody/

This episode uses sounds from various sources, including:

#MeToo movement shines a light on sexual harassment on Youtube

Cardinal McCarrick faces decades of misconduct allegations on Youtube

United States Bishops react to McCarrick report | EWTN News Nightly on Youtube



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What happens when truth-telling threatens to cost you everything?
In Episode Six of
Descent Into Light
, “Forging A Little Way,” Sr. Theresa Aletheia and Sr. Danielle Victoria reach the moment where their paths converge. In this episode, we enter that stage of grief where the fog begins to lift and something new begins to rise. In our upward turn, we both begin to see something new: a little way opening up before us. It wasn’t perfect. It wasn’t easy. But it was real.
This episode explores:
The “upward turn” in grief, when clarity and courage begin to rise in the midst of loss
Why preventing abuse requires people willing to be inconvenient
The risk and fragility of founding a new community of sisters in today’s Church
Why listening to survivors requires more than compassion—it demands systemic change
Alongside their own story, Sr. Theresa Aletheia and Sr. Danielle Victoria speak with Fr. Hans Zollner, SJ, a leading global expert on safeguarding and abuse prevention, and Sara Larson, founder of
Awake
, a Catholic nonprofit accompanying survivors. Both offer insight into how real change begins when people choose honesty over denial, courage over comfort.
This episode asks: What does it take to begin again when everything familiar has been stripped away? And how do you hold on to hope when the future feels impossible?
Join us as we step into the unknown, following the mysterious movement of grace where endings give way to beginnings.
Stay with us as
Descent Into Light
continues releasing a new episode each week—moving through grief with honesty, toward a hope rooted in Christ.
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Descent Into Light
Descent Into Light courageously unpacks stories often left untold—stories of adults harmed within religious settings, including everything from sexual abuse to the broader reality of spiritual abuse. Co-creators Sister Theresa Aletheia Noble and Sister Danielle Victoria Lussier draw on their experiences to illustrate the broader picture of how adult abuse unfolds in spiritual settings, focusing specifically on the setting of the Catholic Church.
Descent Into Light courageously unpacks stories often left untold—stories of adults harmed within religious settings, including everything from sexual abuse to the broader reality of spiritual abuse. Co-creators Sister Theresa Aletheia Noble and Sister Danielle Victoria Lussier draw on their experiences to illustrate the broader picture of how adult abuse unfolds in spiritual settings, focusing specifically on the setting of the Catholic Church.
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