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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Bust with the Boys, Episode three forty four with Jason Kelsey. Now, if you are a Tier one of this show and you watch us every single week, I need you to stick around for this intro because we have a whole lot of updates going into the NFL season and co colsforable season. If you're a New Heights fan, a Taylo Swift fan, if you're a Swifty in general, you love Travis Kelcey, you love New Heights, and you're here for the very first time we do a lot of breakdown on what happened this last college football weekend. If you're not feeling that, you can go to the time codes check them boys out and you can see right when that Jason Kelsey episode drops. I apologize to you if you don't like the intro, but boys, we just love football that much. We get into it, We get in the weeds all the biggest games this week, Our thoughts, our opinions, Arch manning the whole thing Now bwtv dot com, we have new merch coming out. Please subscribe, unsubscribing and resubscribe to this YouTube channel. If you're watching because it helps us. The show is free for a reason, and it just lets us get more access and more ability to give you, guys, more big hugs, tiny kisses. Again, thank you for watching Busting with the Boys.

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Speaker 1: I do want to have a moment of silence for a boy Garrett. This bus. People seeing this bus right now, we are five and one, please take your hats off, Please respect this man. Alabama may or may not be dead. We'll get to that in a moment.

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Speaker 3: Rip Bama.

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Speaker 7: Boom.

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Speaker 1: Also, you can rs VP for a tailgate. Is that correct? And the we're on the street there. I don't know if there's a number you can actually have a ceiling on that. Seems like the numbers are getting high. And hih, we're in four figures right now. I believe right around or right above four figures? Am I right in saying that? Doesn't just say yes no matter what?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, boys call Yeah. It's gonna be a hell of a day. It's gonna be a great time, regardless of Will and I and the anger will have towards each other or the rival we will have towards each other, It's gonna be fun. We had all the boys gonna be out there. We're gonna have a blast at that live show. We're gonna have a blast of the game.

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Speaker 8: It Will's birthday too, It'll be Will's birthday, birthday, birthday spanking. If you see Will at the tailgate.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Will will be lined up. We'll put him in one of those medieval ones where his head and his hands are plugged in there. We'll just have a Michigan paddle. We'll just give him.

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Speaker 3: You have to get that cat that was one of the fifty one Jersey and arrowhead that was just spanking my back.

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Speaker 1: Buddy, How is your back after the weekend.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, I had a couple of lulls, but I'm feeling good today.

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Speaker 1: Because when we got to Columbus, I heard too. It was like a fleeting comment. As we're headed back from that amazing Italian spot. We went to Italian steakhouse. Yes, we were like, I got hit the routine, my basket a little time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, got on top of the mobility routine. When I got back to the hotel, got up, didn't work out Saturday morning. The weekend's kind of a blur. Stayed on top of it all weekend. I do feel good right now. Good good. That makes me feel right now.

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Speaker 3: Also another iteration of the show, we want to include you guys more. We're going to take our tier talk that we've been doing where we do lists, we haven't even been the most consistent with that.

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Speaker 1: A lot better than we have been and that will be on the Monday portion of the show. Correct, Yes, intro Monday. So, so you have questions about the NFL and Sunday boom hashtag tear talk with your question being being boomed as pick it up, we'll give you the answer right there Saturday. Your college football team, Are they dead? Are they alive? Are they gonna be amazing? Hashtag tear talk with that question Monday, we'll get those questions answers for you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or if you simply have a take like seller is a necessity.

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Speaker 1: Celler is just teer talk hashtag Heisman frontrunner hashtag do we believe that?

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Speaker 9: But we're believing that you guys a freshman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're including you guys a lot more in high school. It's gonna be a heavy year.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hell of a year. Man into the weekend housekeeping. Yes, yes, but I'd like to with let's get the bad out of the way. I think we need to get the bad out of the way. Yeah, Alabama, the Crimson time, I think Nick sab I don't know the exact stat, but it's two hundred and something games, two hundred and thirty games. Nick Sabon was two hundred and thirty and four against unranked teams at Alabama. Uh, the boar he comes in. He's ten and four against unranked teams. Garrett, This, I don't mean. This is not meant to cut deep, but is Alabama dead?

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Speaker 3: This is the biggest headline coming out of college football?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the biggest headline coming out of college football.

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Speaker 3: It's week one.

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Speaker 1: If not Archmanning, that's due, that's another one today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's week one.

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Speaker 8: I don't think we're dead. I think we have to look in the mirror and figure out what we want our.

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Speaker 3: Identity to be.

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Speaker 8: Because to your point, two hundred and thirty and four, we're paying for that right now. Yeah, we're paying for that right now. Johnny Manzel said it. When you get off the bus at Alabama, it used.

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Speaker 3: To be feared. That's gone.

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Speaker 8: So you've got to figure out what your new identity is and change it right now. If you don't beat the brakes off of ULM. Wisconsin kind of looks like a game now when it shouldn't be. It's a home game, so you hope that you get it corrected.

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Speaker 3: In a weird way.

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Speaker 8: When I rewatched the game yesterday, there's a few moments that if we just have better discipline and don't drop the football, I do think we find a way to win that game. But those are key moments that you have to have, and those are usually where Alabama succeeds. You catch the important ball, you make the tackle, you don't have a dumb penalty.

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Speaker 1: Late discipline, discipline team.

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Speaker 3: So what is your opinion? Are your your thoughts on the effort shown in the game, because there are a lot of times where you see loafing happening eighteen very uncharacteristic of an Alabama football team.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure. Uh, I think it starts there. The effort is not there. I watched every other game the rest of the weekend, and every team, no matter what level of play they're at, played way harder, played way nastier, and had way more swagger than we showed after that first drive. Even after the first drive that we went down eight minutes, sixteen plays in it, and seven I saw like four people on the field celebrate together. Can't have that, can't have it, can't have that can efforts there? Chef and I talked about it this morning. That's that's the number one thing is effort. Do you want to fucking step on the field and represent the A or do you think that you just get to step on the field because you have the A on.

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Speaker 1: You don't your program being that historic and have that much stuff going on for it. You have to uphold the culture and tradition. You can't just put the jersey on and expect to be great all of a sudden. You got you gotta finish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: They got to figure out what their identity is because it's clear that it's not the same even though you still have some guys that were in the locker room when Saban was there. They can't do it for everyone on the field. But you have to find your own identity because you get out physical that's your bread and butter has always been. So you gotta find something else that means no errors and scoring every time we have the fucking ball, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Every time you play. Ye, Hey, Tony White did both the corner. You got gus Tony White on defense. Like they came the fuck it. They have quarterback talking ship and backing it up.

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Speaker 1: They don't have an answer for me.

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Speaker 8: Said that in the spring, they came out and talked their talk walking. I think Mike Norvel found himself a good situation and bringing in Gus it takes a lot of pressure off of him because now you have two head coaches that have had success on your sideline. Not only do you add your defensive coordinator who fucking schemed up a crazy game, but they have juice and they played like they wanted it, and we did not do that. And that's what happens.

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Speaker 3: Terrence Knight and the d line coach. He tweets after the game, y'all need to pick a fucking side. No.

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Speaker 8: The tweet after the game was Gus fell into times tonight.

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Speaker 3: You were talking about how he set up that reverse for me. He's in advance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that drive where they had the reverse for the touchdown three three separate times or four separate times during that drive, they used a similar motion every time with the guard and tackle pulling to figure out what the eyes were going on, because they would every time they would run that jet sweep across, safety would go up to the middle, and then the other safety would come down and then everybody would flow. The two linebackers would flow with the garden tackle. They saw it, they did it. Multiple times and they capitalized on it. I mean, it just it's so coming out of coming out of the college football world that I came into. It is so weird to see the Crimson Tide be out coached, and it's it's very odd. It seems like you guys are just an a thing where you guys like show up and expect to win. Because of the logo at this point, which is which is not good, you have uncharacteristic drops. I think one highlight you see is Ty Simpson. His his athletic ability is a little more than we all kind of thought had the ability to get out of some stuff.

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Speaker 8: People that think it's Tie's fault or just wrong. Yeah, Ty played a great game. Ty maybe had like one throw that wasn't great, but he hit his targets, he extended plays right, and Jeremy Bernard was the only skill position player I saw give any effort.

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Speaker 3: I know, man, I was. I was a little disappointed in Ryan Williams not showing up. Yeah, I mean, hopefully the injury and everything's all right. There's a part that thought he was tapping out there in the second half.

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Speaker 8: I think he got a little shell shocked for sure, and he got hit a couple of times. You know, you don't ever want to say, like you wish you could have a call, But do we think that that was targeting?

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Speaker 3: I I think it was iffy. I think that it was probably went down. Yeah, I felt like it was more friendly fire than anything.

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Speaker 8: Well, so I think Ryan got hit in the back and then it led to him get hit kind of high. I think it was the right call. But in that moment, that just adds to their momentum. Because Earl Little was an Alabama player transferred to Florida State, it made it personal. He made a personal all game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, it was uh and the big thing too when in the meeting room, when you're in the locker room and the world is on fire right now for the University of Alabama. But another thing that is going to be said is nobody gives a fuck about you guys being in disarray world if anything loves it. Yea, Alabama's enjoyed the best of the best for decades and it's gonna be Hey, we got to fix our ship. And I promise you no one is gonna feel sorry for you because nobody does. Everybody is like celebrating.

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying that that two and thirty and four you're paying for it.

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Speaker 1: Now, yep, two thirty and four.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're born to be a different era for you, gen one that you're not as used to, could be, or we could nip it in the butt, true and get correct. One thing that's always said, you're never as good as they say you are, and it's never as bad as they say you are. Figure after week.

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Speaker 8: One, Yeah, I said, we can be as good as we want to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was. I was bookmarking a couple a couple of tweets out there of Bama is losing their minds? Is it burning up right now? That's what I got. Bear Bryant's burner, one of our largest booster syn this to me. Take this as you will, and it says, spend time around the team hotel for twenty five plus years, and I will tell you the boor's tenure is much closer to Shula than Saban. Players are walking around at one to one thirty in the morning getting door dash deliveries of fast food night before games. I've seen players with random friends coming in and out of the hotel until two am. They couldn't get organized to leave the team hotel on time without confusion. As soon as I was around this, I could not get it out of my head because you could see it was an organization that looks second class by the way it was run. Since witnessing that last year, I have held hope, but my eyes, brain, and gut all told me this is going to be bad when being around it. That was one. Then you got another one where it seems like this dad, Ricky Green, he's got a son. For those that don't know what, I have a d one prospect that centered my son, Andrew Duggan. It's really sad. It's really sad to have to question whether or not I'd send him to Alabama to continue his athletic academic journey should he have that opportunity. Never would have thought I'd have to question that as an art never he kind of broke into two tweets. Never would have thought I'd have to question that as a father. I was born into the world with crimson in my veins. In the current situation at UA's abysmal, Yeah, I mean cuplike grap from the internet.

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Speaker 1: If those crazy thing about that is the dad being like I have a d one prospect son, and if they were to offer, I think to myself, probably not.

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Speaker 3: Wild.

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Speaker 8: If if the hotel thing is true, that sucks. But that booster you can have some power and change that really quick.

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Speaker 1: You can't change that as I mean as a booster. You're not sitting there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got the hope.

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Speaker 1: He's like, we're just sitting in a Lincoln town car across the street with tinted windows, glass private investigators. Now yeah that's bad man.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean if you do want laughs after a bame of loss, the internet is the place to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean obviously, I think you guys are two and one. Who do you guys play that fourth game? The next big game?

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Speaker 8: We have, uh, Georgia after a bye, so.

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Speaker 1: There's a judgment day for you guys.

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Speaker 3: Can you check that U l M?

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Speaker 8: Have U l M next week? Then said Wisconsin by Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of door to Asher Foods, You got you a booster. Can't fix that. Money can't fix that. It's culture. It's coaching, like the bor It's great to be the new age coach who you know, lets his guys be who they want to be uh. Similar to Kenny Dillyham. He lets his guys say what they wanted the podium podium. They can go out and act however they want as long as they produce on the field. But when you have a Alabama team who comes from like your shirt's tucked in, you don't get the flags. Laundry on the field is nothing that's ever going to happen with Crimson Tide. A team that walks off they passed the bus check like holy shit, these are some big boys. And then also they're gonna play discipline football with high effort. That is what you want to see as if you're a Crimson Tide fan, if you're born in a garden, baby, you're never gonna understand the value of a flower. So it's time for you boys to figure it out in a big way.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's tough because you go from obviously having a coach that would motherfuck anybody.

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Speaker 3: For anything, tying their shoe wrong.

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Speaker 8: He's got to figure out a way to motherfuck these boys or someone's gonna motherfuck him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it's also as much important for the player leadership as it is for the coach, because Debor could flip his switch and do his thing culture wise. But if the players, if this is not a player led team, these are This is a roster littered with five star athletes and talent everywhere, a lot of individual mindsets. The worst part of thinking on how bad this could be is you have a lot of guys who like play for themselves and they might just think I'm gonna bounce and go somewhere else. You've seen other guys dud Guys go to you know, guys go to Florida State, guys go to Syracuse, guys go to Nebraska, guys go to Michigan. They'll they'll hit the portal and go somewhere else. But if this is not a tight this is not a player led team, I could see it getting very bad.

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Speaker 8: They watched those old teams and your linebacking core with Ruben Foster, Ryan Anderson and Tim Williams. They would never let this ship fly. You gotta fear the guy next to you, and they got to figure out how to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there need be some some player team meetings.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah this week. Yeah, because I'm telling you, if guys are going home saying what the fuck was that? Man, we should have coach should have called it. It's gonna get lost, It's gonna snowball, right, I like would hate.

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Speaker 8: I hate to call out a single person, but the clip that went viral of eighteens effort on that end around. If he is on the field on Saturday, I would be fucking.

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Speaker 1: Furious Bama Twitter because he's leading the charge of Bama Twitter right now.

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Speaker 3: It proves I see this man on the If I see this boy on the field, on the field, he doesn't deserve the root.

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Speaker 8: Proves the point that maybe we don't need a white safety back there.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, we don't need a white safety back there.

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Speaker 9: Maybe we don't.

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Speaker 1: They're making it come back. He's making it come back.

00:24:53
Speaker 3: You're emotional right now, and I understand.

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Speaker 1: Let me see him real quick, pullup click clicks profile Bray Hubbard. Oh no, Bray, which is crazy.

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Speaker 3: He had a great year last year.

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Speaker 1: Bray Hubbard problem.

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Speaker 3: That is the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he drank last year.

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Speaker 8: They got to correct it and go win the rest of Yeay.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you don't dress him against you, old Monroe, Maybe say hey, sit this one out, maybe I'll dress yeah, put him in a cheerleading off. They'd be like see what you want. You cheered the team on maybe get ready for Wisconsin next week.

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Speaker 3: With ay, with everybody selling the bam of stock, are you buying it? Are you buying the stock? You buying them low because you think they're going to turn it around and get right.

00:25:34
Speaker 1: It's a great question.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, after this week, I don't.

00:25:39
Speaker 1: Think you know, after this week. I don't think you know after that the week after that. I mean I think Wisconsin they're a team that's trying to refigure out their identity. Uh, Youl Monroe. If that game is close, it's like, you gotta continue to sell the stock, like you've got to. Now you you got American history acts, make them bite the curve. Yeah, like it's your Georgia, Georgia Bama. That's that's the game, and we're gonna find out what's Alabama really all about in Georgia.

00:26:06
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm personally seeing four or five ls on this schedule after seeing them against and this is this is week one.

00:26:14
Speaker 1: The perfect time to overreact. If you're a person that's breaking down, the best time the best it is the best time to override. But once we get to the arch mating conversation, I'm flipping the script a little bit.

00:26:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Will.

00:26:26
Speaker 1: Like Georgia, you can see that being L Vanderbilt, you can be L. It seems like the kryptonite of Alabama is a mobile quarterback. Diego Pavia might go two for two.

00:26:35
Speaker 3: Missoo's always tough.

00:26:36
Speaker 1: Miszoo is always Tennessee. I mean Joey Aglar. You see him tossing a ball around the yard.

00:26:41
Speaker 3: The ball's got it an offense, the ball is.

00:26:43
Speaker 1: A good South Carolina like you have a Heisman Trophy candidate at the quarterback position and a defense that gets the funck after in Missouri, that linebacker we were talking about a JP like, he's he's a stud LSU. They're one to oh for the first time since twenty nineteen. That's a team that you're like, fuck man, Oklahoma, Olaho. We'll find out who Oklahoma is this week. We're gonna find out who Oklahoma is. We're gonna find out who Michigan is this week. In Norman and then he got you know, Auburn, It's like I think that I think the consensus coming out of Auburn is like that Arnold kid, like you you can't be running around like that over the field and expect to be healthy come November twenty third or what is that twenty nine Auburn.

00:27:24
Speaker 3: The formula is make the you gotta make Arnold beat you with his arm.

00:27:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is you know, anytime you can see a place of being one dimensional, it's gonna the favor goes.

00:27:33
Speaker 3: In the operation. Right. Yeah. But I'm saying, like, what I mean when I'm saying that is like in the first quarter, I'm watching that game and you hear about the confidence of Jackson Arnold and where's he gonna be at mental? He got bench at ou and even in the first quarter, like on the broadcast, or like Hugh Freese told us before the game, if he can just get Jackson to start off three or five, he'll be happy. And I'm just taking man, it is it such a question mark on this kid's confidence. And then as I'm watching the game and seeing him run, whether it's design runs or him back in the pocket run around, he's got legs on him. But if you're in a defensive meeting about to play Auburn, it's, hey, this kid's not gonna beat us with his arm. You lick him a couple of times you eliminate his legs. What's the what's the old saying, you chop off the head, the body will follow. That's like the mentality that I kind of see when watching Auburn. I think they got a lot of talent, they got a good team. It's all gonna come down to Ken Jackson a will throw the ball. Because when you're playing good quality football teams, when you're playing good quality football teams, those defenses gonna be like, hey, these guys don't have a shot. If we just eliminate Jackson All running the football. Good thing.

00:28:39
Speaker 8: That's the last game of the year, So hopefully we can.

00:28:41
Speaker 1: Last game of the year the record.

00:28:43
Speaker 3: I'm talking like that gets in a really good competition.

00:28:47
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. On the other on the other hand, like if Jacksonall can figure out where to throw the ball, beat a five star recruit he was, and people saw little glimpses of at Oklahoma like he could be he could bring alburn back because they have a hell of a wide receiver room.

00:28:58
Speaker 3: They got a lot of good talent, of good talent.

00:29:00
Speaker 1: So I mean it's up in the air. We'll find out a couple of weeks. But until then, Alabama and the fan base have to kind of sit and stew it a little bit because it's it's a tough place to be in right now, all that success for the past twenty plus years, it's like, is it gonna go away? Are you gonna become like a middle of the pack team, because there's a lot of other teams in the SEC that are got gathering stock. South Carolina's team We've already mentioned a couple of times, but like, there's some schools out there that are willing to press for that top.

00:29:26
Speaker 3: Tennessee tes Tennessee. And he had a good shown against Syracuse. Look hand up, Jackie, I was wrong about the covering. I said, you guys would win the game. I just thirteen and a half points. Felt like a Fran Brown. And the crazy part is, jack when we were at I was just gonna bring it up. When we were at Ohio State watching the Ohio State Texas game, were sitting in that stadium and I'm just getting sun burnt on one side of my body. But the score, the scoreboard, you didn't.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: I was still just funny, dude.

00:29:53
Speaker 3: When I got home, it was literally one side of my face. Oh for real, I always burned on the.

00:29:57
Speaker 1: Whole weekend when we were in Kansas City, Will was like, I'm catching too much Son on my face. And then even during the game and now we're sitting on the bus three days, like the sunburn has been in front of mine thought for you for the last seventy two hours.

00:30:10
Speaker 3: But the scoreboard in the Ohio State game had Syracuse beating you guys all the way up until halftime.

00:30:15
Speaker 1: I believe it was like twenty four to twenty one on the broadcast. On the little side, I'm.

00:30:20
Speaker 3: Like, I'm telling Taylor, I'm like, you know, Jackson, hell right.

00:30:22
Speaker 10: Now the wadan Taylor said, And they get to me and JP they they they kind of got these shit eating grins on their face, like hey man.

00:30:29
Speaker 1: No, I was because I bet Tennessee.

00:30:31
Speaker 7: I was like, I was like, dude, yeah, this is a good day.

00:30:34
Speaker 3: Yeah boy, I like Fran Brown. Yeah. Because when I walk up the stadium, mills twenty seven twenty hell yeah.

00:30:40
Speaker 7: Dude, they're getting fucking mobs right now.

00:30:42
Speaker 3: I was like, what's going on with the defense. You're like, we're playing pretty good? Yeah? What Yeah?

00:30:46
Speaker 10: Super inspiring week for the balls, especially with a lot of chatter on the off season. We had a horrible into our season in the Shoe where we were uh and we got will buy them and we lost so many players on our offense. For of our five linemen gone, Dylan Samson, you know, SC player of the Year gone.

00:31:05
Speaker 1: Most productive receivers, Yeah, productive receivers, James Pierce Junior.

00:31:09
Speaker 10: I mean on all sides of the ball. You have all these key players that are gone, and it's very easy. Similar on the Bama talk, even though Tennessee has not had the production even close in the last two decades, so what Bama has, it is very easy to hate in doubt Tennessee because we have a very strong headed fan base. No matter if we are the last SC or the first, our fans still ride like we're the first. So I understand when people want to spend a narrative like, oh this is this is gonna be a lag year. You guys lost Nico, you should have paid them. Hey Nico, you fucked up, dude, you fucked up.

00:31:46
Speaker 7: How fun is it playing at UCLA with that empty s stadium?

00:31:48
Speaker 3: Getting your ass?

00:31:51
Speaker 9: Is it?

00:31:52
Speaker 7: Man? Anyways, it's really it's awesome.

00:31:54
Speaker 1: Joey Aguilar.

00:31:55
Speaker 10: Joe Yaglar might not be uh, pound for pound, a better quarterback than Eco is. But for our offensive scheme, Joe Adyar played his ass off. He had one laps on a fumble. There's a little some accuracy issues that that will be worked on. It's week one, but it seems like he was just so poised and calm the whole game, from the first series that he played. There was never like a moment of shakiness or like, hey, let me, let me try and do something that's out of my wheelhouse.

00:32:22
Speaker 7: But I just like the.

00:32:24
Speaker 10: Whole Tennessee team played really well, and our running backs. I think that was such a big thing for Balls fans is when you lose Dylan Samson, you don't know what's gonna happen. And we have three running backs that truly can all all do it, and so yeah, it was fun. Obviously it's Syracuse, so like you try not to get too far ahead of yourself, but Syracuse also look decent. We've got things to work on our defensive front.

00:32:45
Speaker 1: For yeah, went ten and three last year.

00:32:47
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they were ten and four. Again. I was big on I still am, like I think Frank Brown's a really good head football coach. So it's gonna your It's not like, hey, it's just Syracuse. I know, like people who are casuals they just see logo Syracuse think this isn't a big win. Like you still had an opponent that you had to line up across that was going to play good discipline football as well as they could. They do, got a lot of transfers and everything else. But fran Brown's a good head coach. Yeah, yeah, good.

00:33:13
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:33:14
Speaker 10: We play etsu this week, first home opener to thirty. That should be a pretty see now that one, it's like, yeah, that's a knockdown. Like if you don't beat them by forty plus, then you're like, okay, maybe last week was just kind of a something I disagree.

00:33:29
Speaker 1: I mean, you got such a big game next week the following week.

00:33:31
Speaker 7: Yeah, Georgia is huge.

00:33:33
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where like keep it vanilla, keep it basic, run the ball, like look on work on fundamentals and just like you know, like you've got the talent to kind of like East Tennessee State was that was that D one double a go Bucks.

00:33:47
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what though, don't sleep on it. There was a year there. I don't want to see one of our years. I feel like we we had a game like this every year when I was at Nebraska, but it was South Dakota State. We beat them just thirteen to seven, and we got so kind of nice. Yeah, but at this time we're talking like they shouldn't have been on the same field. Is all I'm saying, is like, you don't want to be so focused on Georgia that you have it down week because you just as a player, you get we got so motherfucked after that game. It's easy to happen.

00:34:15
Speaker 1: You want to play.

00:34:15
Speaker 3: You want to play like their super Bowl. They're celebrating that.

00:34:17
Speaker 1: They don't give any don't show Georgia anything more than you showed them against Syracuse. Like play like, show, hey, boys, how do we put together quality sixty minutes where it's like we're running the clock. We can show we have the run game, you know, work on our fits like and then but like during the week, like, yeah, you need to obviously, nothing's ever guaranteed in college football. Have a couple of Georgia periods in the beginning of the week. Hey, this is what they're gonna show us next week. Maybe you get a couple of guys, I mean it's I hate to put that on East Tennessee State, but you know, you guys have shown like, hey, maybe Tennessee can be something this year in the SEC when you guys were having so much distraction, so many things going on with your quarterback situation during the offseason, It's like you guys got waxed against Ohio State.

00:34:57
Speaker 3: Then Nico wants to leave.

00:34:59
Speaker 1: There's a money issue. High Apple shows his stones by saying we're not dealing with that with the culture here. You do a switch at UCLA and it seems like you guys have won the trade essentially.

00:35:09
Speaker 7: Yeah, that obviously that could change next week, you know.

00:35:11
Speaker 3: There.

00:35:12
Speaker 10: I just hope that the message going into the clubhouse this week is it we're oh and oh, Like it's every week just like just beat the team that you're playing on Saturday. So it's very it's positive feelings right now. It's just nice to wake up on a Monday and not just have so much anger in your heart.

00:35:32
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:35:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to know that your mental health is in a good spot. Yeah, but especially leading up to Tennessee.

00:35:37
Speaker 7: This and that's what I was going to say.

00:35:38
Speaker 10: You know, this is the one week where we don't have Titans football where like I get one night maybe to be have fun, you know, throw some tweets out there, have a drink or two, and then wake up on Sunday and just get your dick kicked in. So not hoping out this year. It will be interesting playing a mile high cam Ward. It's a scary place for a rookie to go and have a very first day game, but also the perfect place to really make a statement.

00:36:03
Speaker 7: So hopefully.

00:36:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't hate it. I don't hate the optimism.

00:36:07
Speaker 7: I don't We'll see, we'll see. Also, it's pretty nasty to do.

00:36:13
Speaker 10: While we're kind of on the topic of Ohio State Texas, do we want to talk about the scenario that we we were in with a certain somebody on this bus that had the opportunity to be boots on the ground and his quote unquote home team, but chooses not to go to the shoe or even to it just to tap up the fans be in the mix. I just is that something we want to cover now or should we just?

00:36:39
Speaker 1: I think it's a great transition to the next game. Yeah, Ohio State versus Texas.

00:36:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, So with some contexts, what Jack's saying, here, we came across.

00:36:51
Speaker 1: How do we say this, We're in Kansas City.

00:36:54
Speaker 3: We came across a glitch in the system to where Mitch could come to the Ohio State Texas game. Mitch, people who are tier ones and people who understand our guys on busting with the boys. Mitch Carsley has been labeled a casual Ohio State fan, and anytime he has an opportunity to kind of quiet that crowd and quiet those haters, he fails to do so. In the most recent example coming over this past week, he didn't have his real id by the way, he shout out Flyhouse. We got the fly private with Flyhouse. They were phenomenal. But Mitchison there am I They had to fly commercial back to Nashville, And He's like, hey, do you think I'm gonna be able to get on this plane if I don't have a real idea and he don't have his passport He had a picture of his passport. I'm telling him he should call the airline to you know, kind of get out ahead of it, see what they can do. He should be able to get on the flight. However, hey, bro, you could just come with us to Ohio State because what we were learning when we were going to Oha State is we didn't know if we'd get all the boys in Jack and JP. We knew we were credential to get on the game pregame, but we did not have credentials for Jack and JP. We ended up fizzling our way in that vlog is going to be coming out soon. It was a great time, but Jack and JP were basically going to We're gonna be in the game. Jack and JP were just gonna go watch the games at the bar. So we were telling Mitch, hey, bro, you don't have a whole lot going on. You could fly with us on the plane to go watch Ohio State versus Texas one v two arch maining all of it, defending national champions Lee Corso's final game college football history, see your natty being unveiled, the banner, all of it. You can come with us to Ohio State and then just go watch the games at the bar at the bar with Jack and JP. Mitch, you have that opportunity, do you want to take it? The haters are saying, your casual here's where you buy in to being an Ohio State buck guy for real, with that big assad he says no, so he wants to go home to watch the game back in Nashville.

00:38:56
Speaker 1: Can I say something before Misch speaks go ahead, I will pack my bag. I came back and walked into this situation. Was not given all of that information with the real id the put it in the context. It's college game day, it is his team, and I kind of took Mitch's side for a little bit. I was sitting here planning to take the side, but after the way you painted the picture that way, it's hard for me to lean there and still sit behind Mitch and be like that was a good.

00:39:21
Speaker 3: Move for every fan out there listening that loves their team's people tuned in all across the country that love their college football team. If you had the opportunity to fly on a PJ to go to college game day for your team and to witness a historic day, Lee Corso's final like, that's that's not a sleeper. That's not a sleeper thing either.

00:39:44
Speaker 1: It's not You get to see them in person wearing a tux, and we're gonna fly back that same day.

00:39:50
Speaker 3: We're gonna fly back that saday so you can be at home and watch them these games at nighttime. Yeah, would you take it as a fan, they're probably screaming at their phone or TV if they're in the if it's if they are in their living room right now. By the way, if you're watching, make sure you subscribe, they're probably screaming image like this, dude, how is he with Busting with the boys?

00:40:11
Speaker 1: It breaks my heart the way you're explaining it this way, because I know there's a gentleman or a lady that's in their pickup truck right now driving to work wishing they had the opportunity to have Mitch Carsley's job, and they're we're here to give people a good time when they listen to the show, and right now they're not having a good time listening.

00:40:28
Speaker 3: They tune into us knowing like these guys are fans of college football, nfl FO, they love ball, and they have homers all across the board. And what I would do just to just to run the production of Busting and turn down the option of run on a PG and go seeing your favorite play in the biggest opening weekend game.

00:40:48
Speaker 1: And possibly college football history.

00:40:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, hey, how is our defense gonna be this year? We got justin? Is it Justin?

00:40:54
Speaker 1: Saying, Julie Uli, that's the quarterback, Julian saying, we got Julian, what's he gonna be like that?

00:41:00
Speaker 3: You got Jeremiah Smith, you.

00:41:01
Speaker 1: Got matt Patricia who three times Super Bowl champions.

00:41:05
Speaker 3: Keep talking about the Longhorns, Matthew McConaughey is gonna be there. I think we're gonna beat their ass. You don't want to go watch your team in the shoe?

00:41:12
Speaker 1: And it was loud loud?

00:41:16
Speaker 3: Can I speak, Nates fo as yours my friend?

00:41:19
Speaker 6: So what what you failed to say is that it was a bit of a deal trying to get credentialed to go into this game, not only for us, but for you guys as well.

00:41:33
Speaker 3: A bit of a deal during the week. Sorry that that chap's my as. The deal was deal.

00:41:38
Speaker 1: With the chap let him speak. Let it yeah, Chase a bad.

00:41:42
Speaker 3: Right now, and you and I'm hopped up on four energy. I'm sorry.

00:41:47
Speaker 6: And you guys were still trying to get JP and Jack credential so that they could go into the game and they could capture the content and stuff and do the whole like fall towards deal that we typically do. So from my understanding, you guys we're still trying to get them credentialed, and in my head, I'm like, it's already been a deal for let alone them two, for you two to get credentialed. There's no way we can add a third person. I do not I do not want to go to Columbus and go sit at a bar by myself. And I'm not the biggest people person. I'm not going to talk to random people and just like make friends with them because I'm just not outgoing. And so in my head, I'm like, I would rather not just sit at a bar by myself. I would rather go home and sit with my friends and watch it.

00:42:37
Speaker 3: Do you know how many new iPhones are going to be bought this week because they are breaking theirs right now? Listen, you say with my boys, if they get into the game, I am choosing not to fly private. Go to the biggest game in week one, go to see the unveiling.

00:42:53
Speaker 1: Week on History. Yeah, week on History.

00:42:55
Speaker 3: Not see the unveiling of the national title, Not see the juice that's in that home stadium, Not see Lee Corso make his final pick, not see any of it. I'm not gonna do that and go just watch at a bar By myself in the college town surrounded by all of my types of people because we love the buck guys, you're saying you're not gonna do that. That was your worst case scenario.

00:43:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, worst case scenario, and him saying your biggest thing was we didn't know if we were gonna get credentialed. Already figured out. Another chapter asked didn't know if Jack and j P were to be credentialed? They already knew it was probably be a hard sell. But then you have the real ID issue you're talking about. You don't have the passport. We give a picture of the passport, and you go, I don't know if it's a good move to go. Your boss says why not just come with us? And you chose to say no to that.

00:43:45
Speaker 6: Yeah, for the for the.

00:43:49
Speaker 3: For actual tier one fans, JP, are you making a move like that? Are you going to South Carolina if they're ranked number one? You know, I don't even need to say ranked number one in the country. We got j P Joe to Atlanta to go watch the game.

00:44:05
Speaker 9: But I think the Mitch what they're wanting to find out is are you officially ready to say are you a casual fan, or are you a Tier one fan? That's where they're trying to I.

00:44:16
Speaker 6: Think we had this conversation. I'm pretty sure on camera. Like I it is well known, and I accept the fact that I am not a Tier one fan.

00:44:25
Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, no, Mitcha, I am a casual.

00:44:28
Speaker 6: You let me finish speaking. G is a Tier one Alabama fan. Talk is a South Carolina Tier one fan. Jack Tier one fan, chef, tier one fan. I'm not like that. So yes, I would fall under the category of being a casual. I am a casual Ohio State fan.

00:44:47
Speaker 3: That I that's what that's all you want, that's all I need. I am a casual Hoose State fan. Like not there this, I'm not there. I'm not just say just say with you.

00:44:57
Speaker 6: I enjoy watching like I just love watching in college football. And then the team that I pull for is Ohio State. Like it's not like Ohio State ride or die. If Ohio State loses, my week is not ruined. I'm bummed out for a couple hours and I'm like that's football, Like that was it. I'm pissed if like they lose to Michigan because obviously it's the biggest game of the year, but like when we like we went to Michigan two years ago, two years ago, and I mean you, like I was bummed out, but I wasn't like what the fuck dude, Like I wasn't drinking a forty at the hotel like some people have on this bus before, Like I'm not.

00:45:35
Speaker 3: I have never I kind of cooking right now.

00:45:38
Speaker 6: I've never been that fan because like I don't not that I don't understand it. It's just like I'm not like wired that way. And like I I love.

00:45:49
Speaker 3: You saying we're weird.

00:45:50
Speaker 6: There's there's nothing wrong with it. But I'm just not somebody that like I'm not gonna let it like this sounds really weird, but I'm not going to let a group of eighteen year olds ruin my week. Like it's just like I.

00:46:00
Speaker 3: Love real mature you, Mitch, very mature if you mix.

00:46:03
Speaker 6: I like, I love watching college football, like I I can say I love Ohio State, but I'm not going to be like obviously like these guys are like you guys like yes, this, I feel like this has been established. You just wanted me to say I am a casual.

00:46:16
Speaker 3: Because at times you have fought that you are a big Ohio State fan.

00:46:20
Speaker 6: I have never said that I'm on your guys' level.

00:46:23
Speaker 3: You've tried to fight into it at times. Good my mom's got an aj Hawk jersey. I gotta get, you know.

00:46:29
Speaker 6: I mean, like, I've been an Ohio State fan since.

00:46:31
Speaker 1: I think, I think Mitch Mitch. It gets defensive when we just completely take away the fact that he's a fan.

00:46:37
Speaker 6: Yeah, like, that's the part. That's the part where I pushed back because I am a fan of Ohio State and I've been a fan of Ohio State since I was like six or seven years old. But I'm not like, I'm not going to get the block o tattoos on there.

00:46:49
Speaker 3: Aw a, right, look, it's not that serious. Oh, I'm not even that deep.

00:46:55
Speaker 1: Since is this week one? This is week one, Tuesday morning, you guys are listening to the show. It's Overreaction week. Will Is arch Manning dead? Is Texas dead?

00:47:05
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, no no. He had a bad game. He had a bad game, and that's gonna happen. He's gonna get stuff cleaned up. I love seeing him the postgame press or he's taken. It starts with me, It starts with me. I don't think arch Manning's dead whatsoever. I think he's going to be a very good quarterback. I think he I think we it was so popular to kind of ship on the outing that he had because we all, everybody put him on this pedestal of Heisman front runner, all these things, which was a very unfair thing to have happened. But I think we're losing sight of how well the Ohio State defense was. I thought their secondary was very good, their defense in totally.

00:47:46
Speaker 6: The receivers, three time Super Bowl CHAMPI has your defensive court.

00:47:50
Speaker 1: Right, And I think that's something that was so overlooked by us in the locker room through the conversations throughout the week. Is Matt Patricia. It's like when we would go play the Patriots and Matt Patricia Show was the DC, it was, Hey, what is the rolodecks of defense going to be? Hey, we're going to have to find out what they're giving us today before we could have a true solid game plan of how we want to attack their defense. And if you are a coaching staff who has not really seen that where they have the ability to bring seven guys in the line make it seem like as zero now they're dropping in a very unique way. They're moving safeties as the snap's happening, as opposed to, you know, with fifteen seconds left left on the clock before they snaffed the ball, where they're not giving you a very clear picture. Matt Patricia, he deserves so much credit. Those players obviously did an incredible job of taking his game plan making it to come to life. But arch Man you can tell early he was holding the holding on the ball for a long time. A lot of question marks around Texas's offensive line. I think for the most part they held up. They did a great job, but he didn't use his legs. I think that was a design thing early in the game is hey, don't take a lot of hits holding the ball, get it out. And I think by the time we got to the point where archmaning should have started throwing the ball a little bit more, that's when it was a little too late for him mentally. Matt Patricia threw so many different arieties of defenses at him.

00:49:02
Speaker 3: Any team that goes.

00:49:03
Speaker 1: Into Columbus Week one with Matt Patricia as the first year of DC, I think it runs at the same exact issue. You're gonna run this. It doesn't matter if there's a better team out there, you're gonna run the same issue because there's no film to show what Matt Patricia is going to do with his team just yet. People are gonna finances as they get down, get a little farther down the road. But that is a tough load for even a kid with the last name that he has, with being the number one overall recruit, with everybody in Texas saying we want him when you had a quarterback days in the NFL now starting ahead of him, I think Archie man is gonna be just fine, and I think he's gonna We're gonna get halfway through the year, and I think we're gonna have Texas Ohio State are going to see each other again.

00:49:41
Speaker 3: We looked over the fact that Matt Patricia is used to, you know, drawing up game plans for winning Super Bowls, game planning against Peyton Manning, Just Burrow, Ben Roethlisberger, all these elite quarterbacks that he has a roster where Texas is a very good roster too. But you have like the best players in the country like Caleb We talked about Dylan Stewart being like the best defender in the country. Caleb Downs is one of, if not the best defensive player or players.

00:50:08
Speaker 1: Stuart's one A Downs is one BA.

00:50:10
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, or you could even you could talk about his his level of IQ and even in the NFL.

00:50:20
Speaker 3: In college football, there's more glaring tendency football happening based on formations, personnel situations. NFL is way harder to figure out the schematics of everything because there's so many details and so many iterations. Where you're doing self scouting, you're playing a lot of the same teams. In college like, it's a little bit more watered down to where you have more of a you have more laser focus on certain tendencies happening. Matt Patricia, he's a bona fide defensive coordinator. He's got talent everywhere, and he comes from a philosophy where you take away the best players, you take away the things that they're wanting to do. Ohase did a very good job of that. They have freaks at every level of defense. They're going to be a very good football team this year. Yeah, I think it had more to do with how well the Ohio State defense was filling their gaps, are filling their holes from last year, have a new guy step up again. This is a roster that reloads every year because of how good their recruiting classes are. So everybody's kind of questioning that again every we were all. I was the same too. You're super high on arch Manning, You're super high on the This is the guy Sarks said, this is what he's been building towards. So you drink that kool aid. But I think Ohio State's defense is fucking really good. I think arch Manning just came into the one of the tough arguably the toughest environment to play in on Week one, everything going on. You're going against this Ohio State defense.

00:51:42
Speaker 1: Who just won a national championship. Everyone's juice.

00:51:45
Speaker 3: It's his team finally, And I think he had a bad game. He missed some throws. People are talking about mechanics and this that he was. He was an inaccurate quarterback. But I think this is a kid that will He has the mental in between his ears to where he's gonna be able to look at it again. As bad as they say you are, you're never as good. You get, you put your head down, you get back to work. I think he's gonna be just fine, But Ohio State was the better team, like it could have. You know, they're talking about the failed fourth fourth down attempts on Texas side two of them. There were times where that game could have been flipped and Texas could have been in the league, right.

00:52:15
Speaker 1: And who knows what momentum change how that stuff starts to go. Like, yeah, especially with a younger defense, a lot of first time stars on the off Ohio State. It's like if if a momentum starts to swing the other way, does you start to do you start to see cracks where guys started to press a little too much maybe then on his gap sound as they did seem to be because they were in the control and position the entire game, regardless of what the score says.

00:52:36
Speaker 6: I mean they were. They had a chance to tie the game at the end. I mean they fourth they failed the fourth down the sneaks, Yeah, but like that drive was going to tie the game. So I mean it's like even with I think the arch hat right now is ridiculous.

00:52:50
Speaker 1: Change easy to do, but this is this is what Week one is.

00:52:54
Speaker 3: Dude.

00:52:54
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to overreact in a positive way and especially in a negative way.

00:52:58
Speaker 3: I mean even so, you you've seen the the narrative, get get lumped in with the art stuff just to go beyond and hate and do like this. Yeah, it's it's beyond psychotic on the internet. But this is not one to where I'm hitting the panic button. Whatsoever?

00:53:13
Speaker 1: The big bounce back? What can we pull up their schedule?

00:53:16
Speaker 3: And I don't want to say justin saying again, what is it? Ju Julian, He played a good game for his first.

00:53:22
Speaker 1: Good enough for his team to win.

00:53:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for his first start going out there. And Texas is good too. Like again, this is a team that they will probably see each other again in the college football PA.

00:53:31
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:53:32
Speaker 6: If Jeremiah Smith had a couple of drops, so obviously he'll lock in and get that stuff. But I mean, yeah, he did what he had to do. Like, wasn't he didn't lose the game.

00:53:42
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he didn't lose the game for him. One thing to keep an eye on though, is Jeremiah Smith. Well someone said it was after the first drive he's screaming at Julian saying a little bit he was he wants the ball, he wants it, And then the following drive has the two drops that you talked about had one drop last year. It's one of those things, man, where you got to this kid and feed him Earler, like he knows he's a star. You want this in your wide receiver where they kind of have. It can come off as selfish, but it's true, true. Being a competitor, I want to have the team on my back. I want to be the guy that's gonna score the touchdowns for my team. So gotta feed him. You gotta feed the beast. You gotta gotta give them a little You gotta make the sacrificial lamb. You gotta bring it out there to the gods every once in a while.

00:54:20
Speaker 6: With the player as good as he is, like, there's obviously scheming plays up for him, and I think the re like that one play that you're talking about that was a deep ball schemed up for him, Yeah, and Julian just checked it down instead. So like that's why he's pissed. He's like, all right, this is my play, Yeah, this is balls should be and is coming to me, and it didn't.

00:54:37
Speaker 1: So that's why he one thing that's not playing in Texas's favor and arch Man and getting getting back on yeah, getting back on the Horse. Is they got Sam Houston this week or that September twentieth, Can you pull up a little bit, go up a little bit, Yeah, UTEP Sam Houston. Then you go San Jose State, San Jose State, UTEP Houston. So you got three your you're three and one there, but then your next game is also a Way in Florida tough with a quarterback lag Way went off this week. Like if Florida's feeling they're feeling a little frisky right there in the SEC, they're hanging out there. Yeah, they're hanging out down there with a bunch of you know, prehistoric beasts, like getting ready to get after it.

00:55:18
Speaker 3: I think the SEC is wide open. I think the SEC is wide open. You look at Florida, you look at Texas, you look at Oklahoma with John Mattier, Vanderbilt looking spicy again. We'll see what happens with Alabama. You got South Carolina, you got Tennessee, you got Georgia. Hadn't even mentioned Georgia yet, right, but I think SEC is gonna be fun this year.

00:55:38
Speaker 1: Georgia they played Tennessee in two weeks, right, we just we just went over that and it's at home. That's a good way to start off your season. It's a good way. A couple of cupcakes. You get SEC play with a balls fan base that's very excited. But it's at your home turf. It's gonna be fun to watch the SEC this year. A and M, A and M, which A and M had some struggles they did, had some struggles they did, But it is week one.

00:56:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. You love buying into the overreaction of week one because it's fun, but again, it is week one.

00:56:11
Speaker 1: You look at A and M and it's like, what are they going to be in South Indiana this next week? Like CJ. Carr, I think he showed a lot of things. We were like, oh, I mean threw for two.

00:56:19
Speaker 3: Touchdowns with the old line of Notre Dame Notre Dame man or more like surprise of the old line. Maybe they'll get I'm sure they'll get back on track, but surprising how well the d line for Miami played and got after their ass. Yeah, I'm talking winning one on one battles, getting pressure without without having just.

00:56:36
Speaker 1: Rushing for the entire time. And it's like, is Miami's defense is that good? Or is the offensive line that big of a question? Mark for Notre Dame because when you look at logos, you think of you think of specific things. Right, you look at Alabama, Nick Savans Alabama, you think, oh, it's a national champion. That's the team you have to worry about every single game with the discipline and all that. You look at Notre Dame. At the very least, you're gonna have a sound defense and a outstanding offensive line. They got to come out of there, like Zach not even really getting touches now, is that an injury thing that was going on because they moved mount the slant. They try to use him as a passing threat, and he got loose a couple of times. He had himself a nice I think it was a catch or a big run that got called back by a tight end hold. He bounced it off to the left side in the red zone, so it was a run. But man, you gotta get back on track with Jeremiah Love especially. I mean, that's my that was my heisman pick.

00:57:25
Speaker 3: And Carson Beck's got some receivers that can snag it, buddy.

00:57:30
Speaker 1: Was that Tony kid? Yeah, malch Malachi Tony, he can do it all. They had him cooking him up the first, you talk your top fifteen plays as an OC, You're like, how do we get on a good start?

00:57:42
Speaker 3: Right now?

00:57:42
Speaker 1: Seven of those top fifteen plays were going to malachay Tony. Then he's he's returning punts, He's returning kickoffs. Like they looked at this kid. He might have been the best kept secret in college football.

00:57:51
Speaker 3: Like, this kid is j Daniel with that snag.

00:57:54
Speaker 1: He got the Dick Dreads too from Florida speed Demon. He's like a little he like a little Tyreek Hill out there. I mean that number ten done, done, heard all. But this kid is impressive. And Carson Beck like.

00:58:08
Speaker 3: Back played very well. And his post game is post game where he's sitting on on the field doing an interview. You just tell he's just talking about the adversity he's been through. Uh, fired up for him. I thought he played his ass.

00:58:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sounds sounds a lot of people. You saw he was emotional in his post game on the field still with the reporter, he's like had a hard time even getting his words out because he obviously he's heard the noise. He heard how people talked about him at Georgia was an issue. Then you start to watch the game and the commentary start talking, well, was it Carson Beckett Georgia or was it his receivers having a bunch of drops at Georgia. Maybe Carson beck is who we originally thought he was right. So that's exciting, man, it's exciting for Florida or sorry Florida Miami. Uh. The ACC is another juicy little league too, with Florida stick getting the upset.

00:58:51
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01:01:52
Speaker 1: Once again that September thirteenth. September thirteenth at nine pm. You said the thirtieth. But listen, I know we want to get into our teams real quick, but Canelo crawl. We're talking about a couple of goats of their era right now. Leads you to the question of NFL. Who is a goat best all time?

01:02:09
Speaker 3: Tom Brady It's no question, It's not even close. So it doesn't matter. I know people argue the baby goat of Patrick Mahomes. It does not matter what Mahomes does the rest of his career. If he does not go to another team and win with another head coach, he cannot cement himself as the greatest of all time. Not to mention he lost and when they dueled it out Tom Brady with the Tampa Bay Bucket wife's new coach, new head coach beat Patrick.

01:02:31
Speaker 1: Wan lost him when Tom Brady was at the Patriots, lost to him when Tom Brady was at the Buccaneers. Yeah, so I don't I don't subscribe to that.

01:02:39
Speaker 3: You don't subscribe me.

01:02:40
Speaker 1: I think Pat Mahomes could become the goat absolutely also elite player, future, the future friend of the show.

01:02:46
Speaker 3: Patrick, he's a friend of the show.

01:02:49
Speaker 1: He's a friend. Need to be a friend of the show. Need to be friendly, need to be friend of the show. Talking like that is not going to become friend of the show. He'll become enemy of the show. Yeah, and we don't want that. I didn't think about that, But as of right now, you can do it. Bet, As of right now, you gotta say Tom Brady.

01:03:08
Speaker 9: I may disagree a little bit. If we're talking solely best NFL football player of all time, of all time football player can play the game of football, the sport of football, I don't know how it wouldn't be Taysom Hill.

01:03:24
Speaker 1: Well at the moment, missile and.

01:03:26
Speaker 9: Shout out my guy cam Jensen in this argument too, because he always argues for Taysom Hill. The NFL has never seen somebody play so many positions before, because there's no athlete out there that's capable of it. Quarterback, tight end, full back, running back, special teams, kick returner, pumme return.

01:03:44
Speaker 1: And he's had a couple snaps of wide receiver as well wide receiver.

01:03:48
Speaker 9: All of a sudden, boom, we're talking strictly football. I don't know if anybody has ever been able to do more than Taysom Hill.

01:03:55
Speaker 3: Initial initial animal brain reaction.

01:03:57
Speaker 1: Don't hate the argument, don't hate it at all.

01:03:59
Speaker 3: Don't the argument.

01:04:00
Speaker 9: Something for people to chew on as they watch the rest of our episodes.

01:04:04
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is take the rings out of it. We're talking about solely playing the game of football.

01:04:10
Speaker 3: The greatest football.

01:04:11
Speaker 9: You're going out there time backyard football. You got to draft a Guyom Hill backyard football.

01:04:18
Speaker 1: You're taking Taysom Hill over Tom Brady ten out of ten.

01:04:21
Speaker 3: Have to.

01:04:23
Speaker 9: You got to be able to move back there. Yeah, backyard football.

01:04:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, brother, he's not wrong. I'm gullible. So you pitched a decent argument to me. I'm buying boom.

01:04:33
Speaker 1: You bought that Swipe the card, baby. I think where I think Bustle with the Boys is on the stance of Taysom Hill being the best NFL player of all time.

01:04:41
Speaker 9: There's arguments.

01:04:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dante pole d tackle for Kansas City, had a couple of rushing touchdowns, and and uh Don terr Poe Terry don Terry Poe tackle Pro Bowl d tackle had a receiving touchdown and he threw for a touchdown as well. So another guy that can maybe do more than Tom Brady, Derrick Henry.

01:05:08
Speaker 3: You lose me a little bit when the football Derrick Henry.

01:05:12
Speaker 1: Best pure running back of all time, pure hand him the ball. Receiving threat.

01:05:19
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, Yeah, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton and Smith. He's also throwing the Smith the greatest line of all time for years, but yes, Emmas Smith. Listen, all is a fan of the Cowboys in the nineties, LT was nice O J. Simpson, Jim Brown. Yeah, oh, Jason, that's athlete though you're talking football.

01:05:45
Speaker 1: Best football player of all time, Taysom Hill Onward. Big weekend. We've already said it. Teams are five and one. Uh sitting on this bus right now. But it all started in Kansas City, when the Boys flew from Nashville, Tennessee, to Kansas City to Washing Nebraska Cornhuskers take on the Cincinnati Bearcats. We get their confidence is high. I see a scout for the Jets. I go, what are you doing here? He goes, I'm here watching this tight end for Cincinnati I'm also watching the quarterback for Cincinnati. I say, oh, yeah, the tackle for Cincinnaty detackle for Cincinnati as well. And I go, well, this game is gonna be a blowout, right, And he goes, I don't think it is. I go, the Nebraska's gonna cover minut six and a half, aren't they. I think this game is a lot closer than what your fan base is hoping for right now.

01:06:30
Speaker 3: Like you're telling me the Fandos sports book is wrong. The Nebraska's gonna cover six and a half.

01:06:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he and he looked me dead in the eyes, and he goes, this game is gonna be a lot more interesting than you think. He's gonna be a lot more And I told him, listen, I got to give my boy perfect information. Obviously it's not the information you want to give to your guy, but hey, you know, yeah, it's like the Vince Fawn movie where he sees his boys girl cheating on him. It's like, what do you do. You gotta tell your boy, even if your messenger gets killed, I gotta let him know.

01:06:59
Speaker 3: And I test wise, it's like, you have this idea of Cincinnati, been seeing them in person, I'm like, they got some cats, especially they got you.

01:07:08
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that kid, that kid is electric, big boy, hard to take down type of boy.

01:07:18
Speaker 9: Like they got to get him. Probably more involved. Shout out coach step Also coach.

01:07:24
Speaker 1: He's your boy, right Carolina From a fan of the show soon to be possibly friend of the showy Apparently the doors are open at Cincinnati for US Yeah, which might be a spring tour stop this coming year. But I want to get your impression of the game, your feelings throughout first, second, third, fourth quarter, especially in the fourth quarter. But also next time there's a Nebraska football game we gotta go to We're getting security. We gotta I mean, it is fucking ridiculous. I mean, and also I actually would like to say this one thing too. Nebraska fans known for being the most polite, hight generous fan base in all of college football. I'm walking through and it's like, well, you're the best, Taylor fuck Michigan and I'm like, whoa, what.

01:08:10
Speaker 3: Are we doing here? I'm saying, easy, easy, easy, one guy mistakes Jack.

01:08:14
Speaker 1: Thank god Jack took this bull from me. He's wearing a little kevlar on the chest. Some guys like giving will to love and.

01:08:19
Speaker 3: You're the best.

01:08:19
Speaker 1: You'd the grass. He's fucking putting his back of his throat.

01:08:24
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:08:24
Speaker 1: He looks over Michigan goes, fuck Michigan. To the point where we know how Will has been a little nasty towards Michigan. He's even going, oh, listen, boys, hey, hey, we gotta down where I'm walking through. I go to take a piss in the second quarter drug Nebraska thing because up to me, he goes, Oh my god, busting with the boys. Taylor would love you, guys. Ball ball DAPs me up. I'm like, hell, man, appreciate you, thank you for watching the show. Go big red sneine. Am I right? He's like, yeah, I go to take a piss. I want my little piece out. He goes right next to me in the urinal and he looks at his boy literally not a space in the urinal state. Goes right next to me. I can hear you. He goes, man, it's so crazy, we got to see the bust with the boys.

01:09:03
Speaker 3: Guys.

01:09:03
Speaker 1: I mean it is just Taylor like he's not really the boy, like Will is really the boy, but like it's awesome to see by so in my little piece in my hand he's getting a little gun shy too. He's getting a little sad. He's starting to he's starting to turtle up on my head. We gotta get this person. Get out of here, buddy, this is bullets are flying. Cincinnati comes out. First time in my life I heard Nebraska Cornhusker fans boo. Cincinnati get out through the field, gets a first down, Cincinnati are Nebraska booing flag on the play in favor of Cincinnati. Nebraska fans booing under review goes Cincinnati's way, Nebraska fans booing. I'm hearing a lot of fucks. I'm hearing a lot of I've seen a lot of middle fingers. Nebraska fans are fed up for a reason. Thank god we started. Want to know, Will Compton, you have the floor?

01:09:48
Speaker 2: Yeah?

01:09:48
Speaker 3: I think Nebraska fans are sick and tired of being sick and tired. There were people overreacting a lot to what they saw on Thursday night. Over reacting a lot to what they saw on Thursday night. Nebraska that oh they're gonna be middle of the road team. People forget that Nebraska of old Nebraska, not even of old, of recent last year. Ways to lose that one score game, in the fourth. My balls were in my stomach. When Sowersby had the ball, they just drove down on us running the football and scored. And they got the ball to the men and changed left and change left, and I am like, holy fuck, we might lose this goddamn game. And look, people again, forget the things that we've went through. We didn't attempt a field goal over fifty yards last year. We bang one in from fifty two with juice left on it. Like special teams has been such a problem for us. We now have a punter that had three inside the twenty, two of them inside the ten. We got guys on the outside with Hunter and Key that can go up and get it. You got Jacory Barney had a drop in the game. But Jacory Barney is a hell of a football player. Emma Johnson can run through your face. Is a plus one guy. You get a one on one, You get a one on one in the whole. Like the balance that he has in low center of gravity. We have a good running back, We have a good line. We have guys at every position. Forty four offense, forty four. JP identified him right out of the gate. That's gonna be a play for you guys, that's a college football player right there. That's twenty four making plays out there at the tight end spot.

01:11:23
Speaker 5: Rayola.

01:11:25
Speaker 3: It came out. You let the games play out all week and long, and you see the ebbs and flows, the way people feel about their team, and then it doesn't They're not up to expectation coming out of that game. Rayolo is what one of I want to say. Leonora Selis is probably in that category.

01:11:39
Speaker 11: Two.

01:11:39
Speaker 3: But before Sunday kicks off, the only P four quarterback to play against other P four, another P four program and have over two hundred plus yards over a sixty percent completion rate in two touchdowns.

01:11:51
Speaker 9: I think he was the only Carson back probably got it, but it was just them too, right, But.

01:11:55
Speaker 3: The metric was sixty Yeah, Dylan was like seventy percent plus on completion. Like I wish we would more shots down field, but they played a very soft two shell even three shell at times with safety. So we're just taking We're taking what the defense gives us. For me, I come out of that game optimistic because we find a way to lose that game. Last year, the year before, the year before, the year before the year before, and the year before we find a way to somehow lose it. Think one more year before, yeah, another year before, and so I was fired up. There's a lot of stuff to build on, a lot of things to grow, a lot of things to grow from. Situationally, you can't have a false start when you're on the goal line, you're on the one yard line, you have a false start, you get pushed back, you end up settle them for three when you want seven. In that situation, and the defense again balls in everybody's stomach. We need to play defensively. Who's gonna show up? It happened twice with our blackshirt defense in the second quarter before the half when they throw that little underneath thro out Buddy lights him up fumble, We get the ball back score before we go in the halftime. Again you want to come out and get points. And then again at the end of the game, is it a Hertzog? Number seven gets a defensive holding penalty, and again that's why I'm like, God, damn it, this is gonna happen on week one. This is gonna happen on week one. Gets a defensive holding penalty, but keeps this. JD. Pickel says, this keeps this competitive composure and comes out the next play and makes a massive interception to seal the game. A lot of times again you go up. You're in your own head as a player. You can't move on to the next play. You might go up in PBu that or break it up with it. He secures the football gets a massive turnover. I think there should be a lot of optimism. There is a lot of growth. I kind of like the spot we're in because the big game as a fan that you look at on the schedule you don't want the players to do on the schedule is you look at Michigan in Week four, So you should be coming out of that game, you know, with a lot of things to correct and a lot of optism. Hey we can do this, we can do that, but we got to hone in the situational football to your assholes a little tight all the way up to where you brew September twentieth Michigan Bust and Bowl because again you got Akron Is it hcu Who is that Houston at home?

01:14:01
Speaker 2: Yeah?

01:14:02
Speaker 3: So we're gonna be comfortable. We're gonna be working on things we need to work on. But it's like the tail is going to be Week four against Michigan, whereas your guys's test comes more this week this week.

01:14:10
Speaker 1: For this week, I like to give like one thing that impressed me the most about Nebraska. They finished the game plus one in the turnover margin.

01:14:18
Speaker 3: That to me was a plus one or two.

01:14:20
Speaker 1: No, plus one.

01:14:21
Speaker 3: Because I don't think we turned the ball, no no, because you guys, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:26
Speaker 1: There were three separate fumbles three different times at the Braska Cornhiskers offense. Put the ball on the ground that usually goes into the usually goes to the point, so that that right there, it's like it's a god thing. It's a it's a the football gods type of thing. But like last year, the year before, the year before, the year before, the year before, and the year before, that ball goes in the hands of Cincinnati. Now, shame on Cincinnati for being one of the DB's trying to scoop and score the situation. Get on the ball the ball. Yeah, you're trying to make it esp in top ten. Move you end up being the ESPN not top ten by not picking up that ball. However, the ball goes on the ground for Nebraska's offense three separate times. They recover it three separate times. That is a change. That is a visual change you can see in the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Can't always choose how the ball bounces your way, but when you've had so many years as a Cornhusker fan watching the ball go the way against you, it's nice to see it come for you. So I don't know if it was plus one or plus two. Last year in Nebraska Cornhuskers averaged one and a half turnovers a game. They had zero in this last game.

01:15:27
Speaker 3: In field goal, we had three block last year. Yeah, low trajectory kicker and again didn't attempt on one over fifty like you got a guy that puts it in from fifty two.

01:15:36
Speaker 1: And who's your boy? Eckler?

01:15:39
Speaker 3: Is that his name? Yeah, Eck.

01:15:40
Speaker 1: I will say this about Eck I'm wearing I'm in Nebraska uniform. I got the red shoes on it, I got the Nebraska shirt, I got the Nebraska hat. We sneak off because these NFL rules in the Kansas City. We sneak out for a moment, get on the sideline. We see eck dap him up. Give him love. I say, hey, you see the fit he goes.

01:15:55
Speaker 3: I love it.

01:15:55
Speaker 1: I go, I give you this right now, but September twentieth, obviously, I'm hoping for you guys downfall. He goes, he looks me dead in the eyes, and he goes, we don't fucking need you. I'm just having it. I'm just trying to have a good time with you. And he just smiles and dabs me up and walks away. That is I love him more for it. I love him more for it. Look at me dead the eyes, drew a line in the sand and goes, that's my boundary right there. You got it, brother, Absolutely fired up for Nebraska. There's so much to clean up. Would have loved to see. Can't give up over two hundred on the ground. Can't give up two hundred on the ground. Yeah, that was a bit of a sieve, but it's also a very mobile quarterback that had a twitch that you don't. He just seemed like he was moving at a different gear than everybody else in the field. It's no disrespect of the court Huskers defense, but that kid, he was just he was a notch faster than the rest of everybody else in the field. I would have loved Raola his completion percentage just but I don't want to do the comparison because it's not it would cause a fluster. But like he had a lot of complete since a lot of those came from checkdowns, he had a couple of nice stars in the inZone that got him a touchdown. I would have loved to see an attempt at a next play through the air. Oh that's that's I think it's the one thing you look at a Nebraska fan, be like, love the stat line, love the rating, love the completion percentage, love the yards. Would have loved to see the he threw that dime right there, you know.

01:17:21
Speaker 3: And I'm even staph is looking at the way they call the game, being like, oh, we could have took a show. We could have done this year, could have done this there because but.

01:17:28
Speaker 1: Hoole's got a little tight. I mean as it should have. Right, how many times that not go your way? Nebraska or Cincinnati, a team that in the bag twelve us kind of picked to face, they.

01:17:38
Speaker 3: Might win the whole thing.

01:17:39
Speaker 1: They one of the teams have finished last in the twelve. I think they're going to shock some people. I think Kansas State cooked. Avery Johnson's dad is somewhere He's I got to look out for Avery Johnson's mom. Man, we got to make sure everyone's safe in that household like it is tough. Man is now fifth? Now fifth. I think they were towards the bottom.

01:18:08
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, that's just where the scrolling was. Okay, yeah, plus twenty five in the sports book.

01:18:16
Speaker 1: And I love that the Big Twelve has twenty teams, but it's the Big twelve.

01:18:19
Speaker 3: I love the Big ten has big cloth, wide open Kansas. Kansas looks good. Kansas looks good.

01:18:24
Speaker 1: That do you guys watch Arizona State at all?

01:18:28
Speaker 3: I thought it was a little too close.

01:18:29
Speaker 1: No, that's that's you're looking at your look at the school. You're looking at you're looking at the store. Because I mean, I didn't get to watch the game in full. Obviously they played one. No, I went back and.

01:18:39
Speaker 3: Watched the game.

01:18:40
Speaker 1: Okay, I went back and watched the game. Sam Lovett, great touch on the football. He's got a kid, I forget. His name is number zero. If you looked at up for as year, Jordan Tyson, that kid had so many catches that you're like, holy shit, this guy is a dog. Who's the cat? Their receiver are their their running back room? They ran all over the yard on nau they did. Their defense did a great job of standing up. Sam Levitt had one uncharacteristic throw by him. But I feel like that offense is going to be cooking in a big way. They're gonna they get to go across the country to Mississippi State this week. It'll be fun to watch. I think they're favored by six and a half right now, which I think I think the state because you put on Mississippi State's game. They played Southern Missouri. It was close in the first half. They really pulled away in the second half, but I think it was like ten to ten.

01:19:28
Speaker 7: It was.

01:19:29
Speaker 1: It was tied up in the and it's like they had a nice little running back who came from the Sunbell. He he can move it around a little bit. But their offensive line looked a little slow, little lethargic there the speed that you see the SEC with when you have the SEC logo on your chest. Mississippi State doesn't have that right now. So it'll be fun to see that game.

01:19:45
Speaker 3: This guy's and juice in the big twelve two is Utah.

01:19:47
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, shit out of UCLA.

01:19:50
Speaker 3: That OC and quarterback that came up from New Mexico, Like they're nice. Yeah, hey quarterbacks nice.

01:19:56
Speaker 1: I'll say this too, man Like, uh, Josh Paton said it like Utah State had an uncharacteristic bad year. They're used to getting nine, ten eleven wins every single year. They have a bad year last year. Everyone kind of writes them off Utah those utes.

01:20:08
Speaker 3: Man.

01:20:09
Speaker 9: They want to hear about Michigan.

01:20:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's have a Michigan were kind of getting off the rails. Let's get a Bryce Underwood. That's it. That's he's a guy, he's he listen.

01:20:18
Speaker 1: But I had some zip I have some unhealthy optimism about our football season now after watching that game take place. Look like, when you look at the score, you think, to yourself, it got kind of close for a second. However, when you watch that game and this is if this doesn't happen, then this and I know that conversation is just kind of disgusting for a lot of people, especially if you're not a fan of Michigan. That team New Mexico gets seven points on a fumble kickoff return. Okay, ends up going where they have this insane trick play where they hit a ground ball. They have a little ground ball to the running back. He pops over the tight end who gave us troubles Number seven for gave us troubles all game. That's seven in the third quarter, or is at the beginning of the fourth quarter when they march down the field and they end up scoring seven. You have three different third downs of third and ten, plus that Michigan stopped them with other incomplete pass, a sack, fumble, or a PBu that gets called back because of because of a penalty. So if you're a Michigan team, the thing you need to look at is this when I put the film on. When I'm watching the film in the University of Michigan on offense and defense, it's like those both offensive defense played very well. You have to clean up. You have to clean up the fumble number four, he's a rookie. He had that. There was also another one where he had a little wheel route that Bryce Soonwan basically hit him in the head. He just wasn't even looking. But at the defense, I love the way they played. They played twenty seven different guys on their defense.

01:21:50
Speaker 3: I don't like how they gave up twenty one first downs.

01:21:53
Speaker 1: Twenty one first downs. A lot of those come from the penalties that happened as well. You have Jayshn Barham who gave it subjected. That is going to be appealed. We'll see if he doesn't, if he does not play against Oklahoma.

01:22:04
Speaker 3: That's a huge. That's a huge, and that fucking sucks that. Like everybody's been bitching about the targeting, and I agree with what the world is saying. It's like, that is a that is that cripples college foot cripples college football. Like, so spending the kid the next week is crazy.

01:22:19
Speaker 1: That play was a fumble that was returned for a touchdown that was being reviewed to see if it was a fumble at all. There was no penalty flight on the play. They review it, they call it targeting and they say the kid's disqualified. To me, it's like, man, like, what what what are we doing in that situation? Like, yeah, his helmet hits the other kid's helmet, but he's not like putting his crown of his helmet down, He's wrapping them up.

01:22:42
Speaker 3: It's even tried his face right.

01:22:46
Speaker 1: And listen from New Mexico. You got to give New Mexico a lot of credit. Like that kid Lane, he was under pressure all night long, whether it was four or five coming at him. He think he was pressured over seventeen times in that game. He took three or four sacks, but you had a revolving door of a very strong defensive line and a front seven that was making him uncomfortable all day. He's the most sore guy in all of Coulchootball. Lane comes from Idaho State, same guys the head coach for New Mexico. He was also Idaho State. This is the same team that gave Oregon fits last year. Would they only be lost to Oregon by three points so that they were a better football team than a lot of people are getting them credit for.

01:23:24
Speaker 3: I mean, they were the one hundred and thirty one hundred and thirty two defenses coming out.

01:23:27
Speaker 1: Of last year. Coming out of last year. But you look at Florida State, who was ten and two last year. They have twenty three new transfers. I think New Mexico, what's that two intending? Sorry, there were two and ten last year. They have twenty three transfers they end up turning. I mean, it seems like they've really turned their season around. With the upstate against Alabama. New Mexico is another team that had a shitload of transfers as well, with this coach and this quarterback who has had success against Power four teams before. I'm not saying New Mexico's world beaters. I'm just saying you look at Florida State we talked about when you look at Bryce Underwood as a Michigan fan, you think, I just want to see completed passes. First play of the game, it's a bubble screen out to Samas Morgan. Great, great blocking on the perimeter. He gets a first down. Bryce Underwood had negative five rushing yards, and I think it's for a reason. I think they told him don't run. Take his little hits as possible. He was hit two games. Both of them were his fault. The kid has I mean, his release is incredible. He was putting the ball in a great spot of a single time. If he missed, he missed in front of the guys. He had a great like they were backed up. I mean, you take the two minutes. The two minute was incredible. They're backed up in the two yard line. They run an RPO and he puts it over two other defenders and puts it right in Klein's right in Kline's hands at the tight end. The kid comes out, he's jumping around right before, which I'm getting nervous bound like this kid's he's a little too hyped up before first game of the years, and he seem poised. The game didn't seem too fast from I know it's New Mexico, I understand, but the level of optimism when he ran the ball we did with a you know, as a day one install. They did nothing pretty the entire game. They were very basic on the defensive side of the ball, very basically on the offensive side of the ball. They ran RPOs with well still blocking the defensive end like Bryce Underwood was never going to run that game. It was very apparent, which happy for me, which makes me feel really good about the game coming up. That gives me the optimism. Oklahoma rushes for forty four yards against the FCS school. They are obviously very good throughout the air. Their offensive line seems like a bit of a problem. It seems like who's at Matier was under pressure a little bit. And boys, I'm telling you, we get this offensive line of Jeel a little bit. The run game is there. Just to say thank you so much, Garrett for let me have that boy, because he ran for one hundred and fifty seven yards on fifteen carries and three touchdowns. It fires me up.

01:25:48
Speaker 3: I'm just glad that you could tell watching that game they very much had a plan to match the identity of what they wanted to do, like you know, big time run, a lot of run scheme, get them on the perimeter, move in the pocket, boots, play action like they knew what they wanted to do with Bryce and I think he like he can zip the fucking ball. And you'll get to see how good the team is, like when you play against Oklahoma, because you know Oklahoma again, no, not taking credit away from New Mexico, but this is this will be a different ball club. Windows will be tighter, defenders will be a lot better, scheme will be a lot harder to identify. And then they have like again, you look at how New Mexico they did. Michigan did it, shoot themselves on the foot with a lot of different penalties. But New Mexico like being able to move the ball like John Mattier seems to be as advertised, like they're gonna Oklahoma's gonna have an offense, so Michigan's defense will be tested this weekend, right, and it'll be you can find our picks on the locker room, Josh, the locker room.

01:26:45
Speaker 1: If you're if you're thinking as a Michigan fan, Bryce Onerwood needs to be the guy to beat Oklahoma. I think you have the wrong thought process, Like you need to win first and second down, keep their offense off of the field, and put Bryce Underwood in a in a situation to be successful on third and manageable third mangible downs. Brendan Ventnaball like he's had what ten years of success at Clemson being an absolute stud.

01:27:09
Speaker 3: He's Oklahoma. He's a defensive minded cat.

01:27:12
Speaker 1: He's a defensive mind k he took over the play calling. They look good. I mean, the interior of their defensive line is really solid. It's gonna be a fun game. It's gonna be a fun game to watch. I cannot wait to see how Michigan how this Bryce Underwood cat walks into Norman and is he is? He the guy who he says to you who he says he is? Because it's exciting, man. I actually I feel so optimistic about this Oklahoma game, so incredibly optimisty I can't wait to see how it all goes down. But yeah, we have the forward pass again.

01:27:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:27:45
Speaker 3: Bryce Underwood is a good player. He's very well, he'll be a very good player.

01:27:50
Speaker 9: Man a game, y'all didn't touch on Clemson LSU. You have anything to make of it?

01:27:58
Speaker 3: That a smire, Yeah, thatsmyer looked good. Yeah, operating the LSU's defense showed up to play, looked very good. I thought Clemson's defense did a hell of a job. But club Nick and a couple of those, especially at the end of the game, when you can tell LSU had an m where they're sending all the backers and I want to say, Perkins number seven comes from the outside. You had a cat wide open over the middle of that. I believe it was fourth down to where you try to force it in on that slant and kind of just going through all you do is go through one progression, you're gonna see buddy wide open. I felt like that was I would say uncharacteristic. Maybe others would say it's not uncharacteristic. Kay, club Nick, but I was disappointed that he wasn't able to capitalize on that. By LSU's decent but LSU's defense, to me was the was the sticking point of this game. It's like, you know, how are they going to be? Nesmyer is a great quarterback. He's gonna be a good quarterback. He's gonna operate really well. The defense has always kind of let them down in the past, giving up a lot of yardage. Clemson has a lot of talent across the board on both.

01:29:00
Speaker 1: Also turning as well.

01:29:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, across the board. And for LSU's defense to show up like that, like they were flying around, man, it was it was a fun game to watch.

01:29:08
Speaker 6: Weeks boys were out there.

01:29:09
Speaker 3: Weeks boys were playing.

01:29:11
Speaker 1: I mean you brought up is a Perkins, Harrold Perkins Jr. I mean he was out there flying around. He is back in a big way. Like yeah, I mean Josh Pate said he's the Honey Badger but twice his size.

01:29:20
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:29:21
Speaker 1: The biggest question mark going in this game for a lot of people that were choosing Clemson was LSU's offensive line. I thought they had a good day. I thought they had a good day in protection. They had a great day of moving the line of scrimmage. Like I am very impressed by LSU and answering the bell especially in Week one when they've been five in twenty nineteen. It's impressive. It's exciting to see what's gonna happen with the Tigers.

01:29:42
Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel like Garrett Nessmeyer like won the most of all the big time quarterbacks this week because he got the marquee matchup. He was dueling against another big time right, a lot of people right.

01:29:56
Speaker 1: And veteran quarterbacks, and he came out on top.

01:29:58
Speaker 9: Yeah, and he made it obvious too. In my opinion. I know I'm a South Carolina fan, but objectively, I'm watching the game and I'm Thinkingnusmyer looks like he's on a different level than.

01:30:07
Speaker 3: Club Nick at Clemson too.

01:30:09
Speaker 9: At Clemson, like it, it didn't feel like they were playing a road game that the way they were playing.

01:30:15
Speaker 1: A lot of people talking about neus Meyer's when he get into like really tight games like he was he would press a little too much and make mistakes. Seem like a lot of maturity came from him when he was like, Hey, if he run into an issue, let's throw the ball away, let's check it down, let's let's let's live for another down.

01:30:30
Speaker 2: You know.

01:30:31
Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe maybe happy to watch as much as I can't stay in the LSU after last year. But because Clemson's d line, they mean Clemson's defense played well. And I will say this that their safety number five Clemsons. Yeah, I cannot wait until number sixty on South Carolina puts his helmet in his chest and bowls him over. At the end of the year. That guy is non stop running.

01:30:57
Speaker 1: His mouth like a call for tarketing.

01:30:59
Speaker 9: Get it. Yeah, that's fine offensive targeting, but like NonStop running his mouth on plays that he's not necessarily making. And Clipson is always good for one white dude on their defense to be that guy, and their safety was doing it, And I'm like, I cannot wait till Lenora Sellers gets to just run.

01:31:15
Speaker 3: You over South Carolina game Cock, JP Hovey, you went to Atlanta this weekend optimism coming out of that game. The one thing that I was pissed about because I didn't feel like it should have been close to the way it was is Johnson. That backer number zero looks like a unit and stud he picks it off and doesn't go down in the end zone, pins him back on like the one or two yard line. Leonoras ends up getting sacked for a safety. That kind of keeps them in the game. Yeah, you guys looked like a drive. Everybody's tweets coming out. Oh South Carolina Juggernaut.

01:31:49
Speaker 9: Everybody was sweet everybody. Dude, dude, it was crazy. It was I mean it was It was kind of perfect for us, I know, I mean, we there's a lot to clean up in the old line, but we had our our big, flashy plays that the team can be excited about going into the week, that the coaches can get excited about, and we have so much to coach them on. But we're just a fun team all around because we're so like it sounds crazy to say, but we're star studded with Lenora Sellers. The third and six or like third and twelve play he makes on his feet, shedding two tacklers, Like, I don't know if any other quarterback is able to do that in the country. Dylan Stewart seven tackles, one sack, one and a half tackles for a loss. Yeah, and when he's making his sack because he was getting double teamed all day and it was Virginia Tech was starting to drive. They were like on the thirty five yard line and Stewart just flies out of nowhere. Yeah, sacks him j R. Johnson the linebacker insane. And then the punt return something that Beamer.

01:32:50
Speaker 3: Ball Beamer off a little frank there too, and Dylan gives him the ball after the game or not Dylan gives them the ball after the game.

01:32:58
Speaker 1: Do you One thing I thought was so worried by Virginia Tech is there were multiple passing downs where they would like pull a guard, keep it open, slide the left pull of guard on Stewart. It's like, you're just asking to get your ass by right. And then when they had to get in those third like the situations where they have to throw the ball, they're not chipping a lot of times they weren't sliding, and it's like, Bro, that guy is a fucking menace. He will ruin your day.

01:33:20
Speaker 3: Ended up doing it.

01:33:21
Speaker 1: It's like where is the from a coaching staff standpoint, like how are you not making that adjustment at halftime being like, hey, we got to put two guys in this guy at all times. That's just what it is. Like, let's get to the second level. Johnson He's an absolute stuff. But like let's get to Johnson. So this, uh, this Stewart kid, doesn't ruin the day for us.

01:33:36
Speaker 3: And not to full on just talk about South Carolina v Tech was fighting now nice, their backers.

01:33:41
Speaker 1: Are going nice balls, they're receivers.

01:33:44
Speaker 9: They were making some plays yeah place.

01:33:47
Speaker 1: And having just a couple of drops where it's like we might be saying something different.

01:33:50
Speaker 9: The drops made no sense, yeah, because they're making plays where like our DV is in position, playing great defense and they're laying out for it, snagging it out.

01:33:57
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this bro, how about Nick Harbor, Like early in the game, gets a couple of catches, has a drop where you're like, that's what everyone's been saying about them all last year, and then just that ten to one speed down, like.

01:34:10
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's so I mean to play. Actually, it does feel like a video game. And this is the first time everybody's been running that play in the video game, and this is the first time we've got to see it in real life. Yeah, and I swear though, we've got to clip his mouthpiece because it's never in and it's and it's pretty long, and he hasn't been playing wide receiver enough to where his hands are as sure as they could be. And when that when they show me the replay on the screen, the mouthpiece was like kind of dangling where his hands were, and I'm like, dude, if this lime green mouthpiece ruins this moment, we're gonna have some problems. But I liked it because we have a lot of other talented receivers and I wish they could have gotten involved more. But I like it going forward because other teams it's like they don't really know exactly what we're going to be bringing. The best part about Shane Beemer, we always under him have played our best football in November. So if we're able to rise our level of play in August and September and October just a little bit, we're gonna be in good shape.

01:35:10
Speaker 3: Just from watching the game, it's like the the obvious area is cleaning up, just the old line.

01:35:15
Speaker 1: It seems like there's specifically the left guard and left tack.

01:35:17
Speaker 3: Miscommunications go on to where it's not like there there's times where they get beat, but I'm saying there's times where there's just like free runners, free running up the middle and just not picking up the pressure that.

01:35:26
Speaker 1: Three taking kind a nice little forklift on that left guard, like it's one of those year tip the cabin dolly that.

01:35:30
Speaker 9: To help them, right, Yeah, he apparently they have a really good d line.

01:35:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it seemed that way, and they were running games really well. Yeah, they were definitely identifying what side you were sliding to and then manipulating in a game on the man's side. So yeah, that I mean, if I'm walking out of that, I'm a little nervous with that left tackle and left guard.

01:35:49
Speaker 3: Just kind of the lull in the second third quarter because you kind of want to keep the momentum. Obviously, the first drive is like the first drive you want to have in any game, right. But what I love about watching South Carolina is like we're talking about the effort and the loafing and stuff on Baman, It's like there's no lack of effort with the South Carolina game.

01:36:07
Speaker 9: Cop dude, and they send a message on defense, like there's always three guys around the ball and there's always one dude that comes in and lays extra hit, right, Like when it's getting stood up, you just see a guy leave his feed, right.

01:36:18
Speaker 3: You get they're excited and they love to play with each other. It obviously starts with coach Biemer the way he gets everybody juice. He's he's done such a good job there. But you just you feel the energy with South Carolina and it's.

01:36:32
Speaker 9: Like the style of defense we play is very like opportunistic and it leaves open big plays because you're trusting your DB's and your safety to really like win their matchup. But it frees up the linebackers to do their thing. And if you have a good linebacker corps, which it looks like we do.

01:36:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're playing South Carolina this week. You're putting on that film and you're a little nervous with that defense. They fly avery.

01:36:56
Speaker 9: A little like bounce out.

01:36:58
Speaker 8: Sellers just hits like a easy little pass they get like seven yards.

01:37:02
Speaker 1: Beamers running out the tight end with a with the with the cowboy caller. But yeah, that's college football right there.

01:37:11
Speaker 3: That's the culture.

01:37:12
Speaker 1: That's that is the culture. And dude, seeing Shane Biemer as the game's ending, picking up his kid look at him like showing him around like there's looking up in the air, like brings a tear to your eye because you're just like you could tell how much that meant to him. Frank Biamer is there, he's wearing he's wearing a game cock t shirt, and it's.

01:37:29
Speaker 10: Like question and this is this has nothing to do with my sec bias anything is truly.

01:37:36
Speaker 3: Just I want to answers from everyone.

01:37:37
Speaker 10: Obviously, JP, they Gatorade dumped Beamer after the game?

01:37:43
Speaker 6: Is that I think it's strictly for the Virginia Tech Ties.

01:37:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not.

01:37:49
Speaker 7: I don't have a stance at this point. I just want to know the guys.

01:37:55
Speaker 1: They dump gatorade on Beamer on Beamer and what are.

01:37:58
Speaker 3: You asking is that?

01:37:59
Speaker 7: Is it? Is it appropriate for the moment? Is it too much? Week one?

01:38:05
Speaker 10: Like I'm not here like doing some underlying Like I have a stance. I just saw this on Twitter like twenty minutes ago, and so I while we're talking about I'd like to well you, I.

01:38:14
Speaker 3: Think from a casual fan, I can see why we dumping gatory. But I think if you understand the history of Beamer Ball, Virginia Tech coach Shane Beemer going there while his dad was the head coach.

01:38:26
Speaker 10: Seller's giving Beamer to Big Beamer. Yeah, game ball was cool too, So I.

01:38:31
Speaker 3: Think it was appropriate, and I think it speaks to like the tightness and the culture that they have going on there that even the players identified that they that coach Beamer is having such a moment with his old man being there. Yeah, you take a punt return to the house, that's Beamer ball man.

01:38:45
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:38:45
Speaker 7: Shout out Austin Winfrey too.

01:38:47
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, South Carolina.

01:38:48
Speaker 9: Coach, you think it's too much?

01:38:50
Speaker 7: Jack, No, I really don't. I'm not taking a stance.

01:38:53
Speaker 5: I just you know, what, what does your stands to be?

01:38:56
Speaker 10: I don't know, because I mean, as a Tennessee fan, we rushed the field beating band with his past and people were pissed about that. I even was so like, I know there's probably one or two South Carolina fans out there that are like, this is too far, like we're getting ahead of it. But then I think, because of it being the Beamer Bowl, yes it is justified.

01:39:14
Speaker 1: No, I think I don't see any issue with it at all. Cool dude, his dad was a legendary coacher for almost three decades. He gets to open up the season against his old man's old team he grew up there. Talk about Shane wearing wearing a headset, wanting to be a coach, watching his dad being like, I used to have friends over and I used to go in the other room and pretend to call plays with a headset on because my dad was like that. And now you get to sit there as a head coach for the game Cocks and watch your dad's old team and have the opportunity to play against them and a you know whatever, a flec you know, an Atlanta.

01:39:44
Speaker 3: Game because you haven't played him since what was it, nineteen ninety one?

01:39:47
Speaker 9: Yeah, and now to hear your boy was born. All I can hope is that Shane's son doesn't follow the same path as Shane, because that just means in about thirty years, forty years, I'm gonna be facing Hunter Beamer on the opposite sideline. He's gonna take down the game. I need him, I need him on our staff. If he wants to be just takes over.

01:40:08
Speaker 3: It'll be fun too. The next couple of weeks is Vanderbilt being spicy. Pavey looked really good, their whole team look good. Is they got Virginia Tech this week, They got v Tech this week, and then week three, you got Vandy out at South Carolina. I think that's gonna be a fun.

01:40:25
Speaker 7: But I did see this on Twitter this morning.

01:40:27
Speaker 10: Both of Pavia's brothers were arrested after on Saturday night.

01:40:32
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, both of them for what?

01:40:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, I I assume I think it was p I s or just like drunk it.

01:40:39
Speaker 9: I think they've got a drunk that's.

01:40:44
Speaker 1: We don't have think we don't have to cut that. It just matters more for the Yeah, the PAVI family, Like what else would you expect? I mean, really, family full of wrestlers, Yeah, head bands on would you say my brother is the greatest and they just take his ass down, put him in a choke.

01:40:59
Speaker 7: It they got in a fight solely for defending Diego's name.

01:41:03
Speaker 10: That you I mean, as a guy with two younger brothers, that ship would fire me up juicy.

01:41:09
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, maybe not though anyways, I kind of.

01:41:13
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll get to the locker room. But right now, early thoughts are I like, I.

01:41:16
Speaker 7: Like it as as a Tennessee Van.

01:41:19
Speaker 3: It was South Carolina.

01:41:23
Speaker 7: For actually having a full stadium. And I'm not making hateful comments.

01:41:27
Speaker 10: It's it actually is cool to see Vandy have fans in the stadium.

01:41:31
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

01:41:32
Speaker 7: Good for you guys.

01:41:35
Speaker 1: Shout out Vandy man. Big one coming up this week for you guys, Nothing bigger than Oklahoma Michigan. Now it might be fine, might be bigger than Texas Hot state.

01:41:43
Speaker 3: And just for people tune in. It seems like we're gonna stream it. Yeah, we'll be doing Thursday night football in the NFL all season long, and there's gonna be a handful that we do for college. But it seems like this would be a fun one.

01:41:57
Speaker 1: I think we streamed this one. I'm excited about it, buddy. I'm telling you. You get the continuity in the offensive line from Michigan, that defense steps up, plays well, you get a good run game going. We could sit Norman on fire because if Oklahoma loses that game, they're calling.

01:42:16
Speaker 3: For coaches head Do you think so?

01:42:19
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the year they had last year.

01:42:21
Speaker 3: It depends how they lose.

01:42:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you look at Oklahoma. You have Draw Matier. He's a Heisan. Everyone's saying Heisman. He's impossible. He's gonna be sitting there possibly holding up the trophy. He will definitely be in a suit before Michigan. Who has a quarterback that turned eighteen years old thirteen days ago, and he is able to walk in and get done what a lot of people think can't be done in Norman. I think people in Norman are apparently that fan base is as insane as they come to. Just listen to a couple of one. Yeah it'll be it'll be very interesting.

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01:45:10
Speaker 4: Garrett this week.

01:45:17
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01:45:23
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01:45:31
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01:45:33
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01:45:47
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01:46:00
Speaker 1: Let's be coming out on Thursday, Thursday, September fourth, This Thursday, This Thursday, Thursday fourth, the Bust and boltees. My god, I'll say this. I come in every day, I come in to the shop. At one point Garrett comes. That's me, hany I want to show you something real quick. He showed me this October merch. He's working on the merch that's just come out last week. He showed me the Bust and Bowl merch, the hats, everything the dude has dialed in when it comes to the merch, I love it. It gets me a little rocked up when I see busting with the boys stuff taking new steps every single week. Shout out, Yuji, You've done an incredible job, not just with the merch but with everything.

01:46:33
Speaker 3: Man moving targets, we're traveling, keeping his keeping everybody in check with schedule, everything you have you been. I loved to have seen because I know you would have still kept the optimism. Would have loved to have seen us traveling after the Bama game happened. Seems like that, say that Bama game happens on Thursday, and then we're going the weekend through traveling, like just how yeah, I know, if you're ready to fight, it would have been see.

01:47:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be less conversation.

01:47:02
Speaker 3: I'll channel that internally.

01:47:04
Speaker 8: And then next time if a Nebraska fan gets crazy on Taylor, maybe.

01:47:08
Speaker 1: Sings Nebraska nastiest fan base becoming becoming the nastiest fan base out there.

01:47:16
Speaker 3: We got a chip on our shoulder, the expectations a little hard.

01:47:18
Speaker 1: Good ones are dying off, man, Yeah, that's the ones that.

01:47:22
Speaker 3: I'm like, Yeah, the older generations dying off. We got the new wave coming.

01:47:25
Speaker 1: Right, the new wave angry fans.

01:47:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was loud and arrowhead. Yeah. I wish we got to like be more in it because I was watching you know your boy, I was getting some free time out of though, that was a nice spot to be unbelievable. Un Fandel had a great setup for us. But I watched the TV copy back just kind of watched the flow of the game and everything, and you could feel like on third downs and everything else, like watching on TV. It was rock and Arrowhead just number one rips to begin with, like one of the best stadiums in the NFL. Their fans show up. Chiefs fans are also Husker fans. It was it was rocking. Tickets were sold to Nebraska bas Nebraska also took over Nashville over the weekend because the volleyball team was playing against Kentucky a bridge Stone and it was just a sea of red all over Nashville.

01:48:11
Speaker 8: They were on minchnized flight. Yeah back without my airport ravels man, I raw dogged it the whole way home.

01:48:21
Speaker 3: Was funny.

01:48:24
Speaker 8: Bro I had another play that I was gonna quote tweet it later with almost your verbatim. Forgot the IQ level is so low on here and just not rip you rip everyone else. But yeah, that was a tough flight.

01:48:40
Speaker 6: With not having a real idea ended up working out. They just had to like swipe my hands and just read it and it said, is kind of fake. No, so I think so when I called the airport, they were like, yeah, we're still having some leeway. So I think eventually it's gonna come to you. You need to get it or you're cooked.

01:49:00
Speaker 3: Get your real idea.

01:49:01
Speaker 8: Shout get on people of the episode.

01:49:06
Speaker 1: Dude, let's get to this Jason Kelsey episode just before we kick it.

01:49:09
Speaker 3: I do want to flirt a couple things out there for fans still on FanDuel an over in win totals this year. I love the Titans over five and a half.

01:49:20
Speaker 8: So much so Taylor almost put it in.

01:49:22
Speaker 1: Almost flitting the parlay they got murdered by Nebraska.

01:49:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I know, listen, I know Nebraska.

01:49:28
Speaker 7: It starts.

01:49:29
Speaker 1: I think at this point it's like, when the game is going that way, I'll sacrifice my money for your happiness.

01:49:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what I usually do anyway, Like I didn't bet on the minus six and a half. I put Nebraska money line in a parlay because I personally hate like close. I just hate doing spreads with Nebraska because I don't want to be bummed. I want to be fired up that we won, but I don't want to be bummed if we didn't cover like I don't want my emotional state being wrapped up.

01:49:53
Speaker 8: We will had us all drink the kool aid for the spread and behind closed doors.

01:49:57
Speaker 1: Because the way he was talking in the locker room. We got done with the locker room, and I go, Will tell me why I shouldn't put thousands and thousands of dollars on Nebraska my six and a half, goes, buddy, Buddy, trust me, Trust me, buddy, like I gotta look at myself in the mirror too and be like I gotta I gotta bet responsibly when it comes to Nebraska. Thank god we had that car.

01:50:16
Speaker 3: I say that, and I still might have. Let me just check my subtle bets. I had kind of an up and down weekend. It would be a tough Carolina save me because I took them minus one and a half in the first quarter and it was plus one hundred. Got that banger.

01:50:29
Speaker 1: I will just wait to start this Jason Kelsey episode until Will pulls a spandle up.

01:50:33
Speaker 3: I'm just I I am. I'm high on the over five and a half wins for Tennessee this year lost. Notre Dame lost the same game parlay with Notre Dame one South Carolina, two of them lost. Clemson lost my five leg parlay Bama, Clemson, Notre Dame all fucked me, lost my four leg parlay Texas, Clemson fucked me, lost my lost my six leg parlaych is Bama noted da. I needed to have a little bit more variety. I did take. I did take Nebraska b six and a half, lost that quick. Yeah, thanks a lot of parlays. What the parlay's are gonna listen. You get a week under your belt, you start seeing the field a little bit better. And I do want to apologize. I'm place the day of the game too. I'm over one. Yeah, yeah, one time did I posted to nineteen pm? When so?

01:51:24
Speaker 1: Probably just right before we took off, Right before we took off.

01:51:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, dude.

01:51:29
Speaker 1: You should have seen this man, how nervous he wasn't that fourth quarter and I'm thinking of myself, like, I kind of hope Cincinnati gets three, so Nebraska could win by seven Taylor and we can cover and.

01:51:40
Speaker 3: We can still cover. I'm like, no, he's and.

01:51:41
Speaker 1: Will just thinking that we get this win. And he's right too. Momentum was all on Cincinnati side. They scored before they stopped in Nebraska, and.

01:51:50
Speaker 3: We can't really sling it that well, I know, I know, maybe he can though, and the defense is held in the sixty seven yards. Yeah.

01:52:00
Speaker 1: See, when I was watching Rayola during the game, I'm thinking that he's not playing that well and then you pull and I think the third quarter I pulled the statue. Oh he's kind of crushing actually, so it's kind of like weird watch the game in the stats.

01:52:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I wanted to watch the TV copy too, just to get like, just to get like a feel.

01:52:16
Speaker 1: Right, But boys, Bryce Underwood looks like he could be the fucking guy. He looks as advertised to throw the touch like he really fucking he really might be the greatest ever quarterback to put on the amazing blue uniform in college. I mean, obviously we had Tom Brady, but he wasn't right. He wasn't like he wasn't Tom Brady. Wasn't him like really, like, no, he ain't better than Jason Male.

01:52:45
Speaker 3: I mean practice, and if they can.

01:52:51
Speaker 1: Just unlock a run like him running the.

01:52:54
Speaker 3: Ball, it'll come. It'll come. It'll come.

01:52:57
Speaker 1: Because any Illinois State date, they kind of ran pretty well Yklahoma. They ran pretty well against Oklahoma. I'm just saying, Jason Kelsey episode, but also do michig kid.

01:53:05
Speaker 3: Under dogs by four and a half.

01:53:08
Speaker 1: Right now, Norman, I would get wait for the locker room. Wait for the locker room because I'm feeling kind of spicy about it right now. Jason Kelsey, Right, I don't know what heisman.

01:53:18
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01:53:51
Speaker 3: Will is that like, Oh I was, You're like when they were showing you guys, when they were showing you guys history on the camera, I was like, if they want some juice in the stadium, they'll get the camera.

01:54:02
Speaker 2: Get the camera.

01:54:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get the boys rolling.

01:54:05
Speaker 2: It was a weird thing because it was set up we're rolling, We're good, We're rolling the uh uh. It was a Cincinnati home game, so like all of the like the band and like things on the jummer tronal line, it was set up for like to be a Cincinnati centered yeah, but like the entire crowd. So yeah, it was a bit awkward, I felt like.

01:54:25
Speaker 3: But it was close though. Sores Be that quarterback.

01:54:29
Speaker 2: Yeah he uh, I mean yeah, Cincinnati played. It was a weird game. They like weren't playing bad offensively, but they didn't have any points to show. They kind of got like behind the sticks a few times and Nebraska is felt like they head the ball.

01:54:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:54:41
Speaker 2: I don't know what time possession was, but it had to be.

01:54:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty lopsided, but it was like, uh, Soresby's legs was again. Outside of that, it's it's not like Cincinnati had much offense outside of him running the football well.

01:54:54
Speaker 2: I thought the number three Walker kid ran the ball really well too, right, But they were running well, and I didn't even feel like sourcers throwing the ball poorly. It just felt like Nebraska's dbs were all over the receivers, I don't know.

01:55:05
Speaker 3: And when there was some opportunities, the receivers just just.

01:55:07
Speaker 2: Make really nice fade balls. And I had.

01:55:11
Speaker 3: A couple of openings.

01:55:12
Speaker 1: There was that one and like the first quarter where that receiver kind of had a great separation, he just threw it over his head a little bit. There's a couple, but that like two minute drive, first play, two minutes. I swear to God that he just told the receivers run verts. I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and get start off on a good.

01:55:26
Speaker 3: Little go here.

01:55:27
Speaker 2: It's like a little Patrick Mahone style, buddy.

01:55:29
Speaker 3: He is an athlete.

01:55:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like being on the field and watching him just like this, this kid looks like he looks the part for sure. Him the tight end.

01:55:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, like all of them were.

01:55:38
Speaker 1: I was impressed by the way they look. But yeah, I feel like Week one jitters for sure.

01:55:43
Speaker 2: They had like three false starts playing in this a lot of stadium and then in the world, I guess I don't know if it's it's advertiser, right, that's I.

01:55:51
Speaker 3: Think that's how we'll get the World's crazy.

01:55:55
Speaker 1: Is that world? Is that NFL?

01:55:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel.

01:55:58
Speaker 3: Like you had the mix of a Husker fans, which are die hard fans. The place was rocking. They're also all Husker fans are pretty much Chiefs fans. Yeah, Travs in the building obviously places since A. But you had that just mix of.

01:56:09
Speaker 2: And they didn't know what to do. Like I was supposed to cheer one travels. It would start with the cheer and then you like point to his hat and yeah.

01:56:17
Speaker 1: Little background though on Nebraska. So my senior year we played them. They beat our ass and then after the game, all the fans are like, hey, great job, hope you gys are like they're like, notice, like the nicest fans of all time. And then all of a sudden, I'm walking, I'm walking in the stadium and it's like, fuck Michigan Taylor, but I'm like wearing all in the Braska. I'm like, this is not the Nebraska.

01:56:37
Speaker 5: I know, it's generation.

01:56:40
Speaker 1: They the bear cats come out there booing like during like you know, they're reviewing a player. They're screaming at the rafts. I'm like this, this fan base, the vaccines hitting them, something's going on in their bloodstreams.

01:56:53
Speaker 3: Taylor that the older generation, the nice ones, they're dying out, and now it's like the youth that's coming up. You're sick and tired of being sick and tired because we fucking.

01:57:00
Speaker 2: Well the old generation was. You know, there were fat cats. They won a bunch of national championships, and they remember the other good days. Yes, new guys that we got to get it going yeas again.

01:57:08
Speaker 3: I was I was nervous though, I was sweat I was sweating bulls because I thought, you know, I thought we'd take care of What.

01:57:13
Speaker 2: Did you think about? How was the Marasca play about as well as you thought they would? Like? What did you think of Nebraska?

01:57:19
Speaker 3: I was surprised we didn't take as many We didn't really try to press it downfield at all. Right, Like I felt like everything was short, like you look at real with stat line. He was like thirty three for forty something, but everything was like they like loved the spacing concept. They ran the football really well. I think anytime they tried to get outside the tackles where they struggled, But Emma Johnson and that old Lion was doing a good job in between the tackles. I feel like we have some good receivers that can win one on ones. But where I was surprised as us just not taking shots downfield. Yeah, so that was that was kind of my brain. The defense. I knew we had a lot of new faces, so I was curious at how we'd played. We didn't stop the run really well, but whenever, like again, Nebraska, Lord, Nebraska. Historically we lose those one score games in the fourth quarter. Our special teams is bad. But we got a punter that was putting it inside two, inside the ten, three inside the twenty, a field goal kicker. Again, we usually lose games with special teams. We bang one in from fifty two, which mattered because we only won by three. Yeah, So there's like optimism that I obviously have I always will have. But when I when I look at everything, it's like, usually the ball doesn't bounce our way, don't we don't get the you know, penalty at the right time. We're usually fumbling the ball or missing a special teams play, like those things were happening. For me, it's just, you know, how do we get the ball downfield? Because real it can spin it. It's just it's just opening it up and letting them do it.

01:58:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was definitely felt like a first game. Yeah, yeah, I'm both teams perhaps, Yeah.

01:58:47
Speaker 3: Because when it was six three, it's like, you know, I'm sure everybody.

01:58:50
Speaker 2: Like why is this score? But it was so odd, like it's like people each team has kind of had plays when they made mistakes, got behind the chains and yeah.

01:58:57
Speaker 1: Anyways, the thing that impressed me with a Rasco was their offensive line because there was all that talk about that nose tackle that three. He's a real deal. I'm walking by, I'm like, this motherfucker looks like the real deal. Yeah, he is a legit, like a boulder. So I'm thinking, yeah, you gotta go like perimeter type of run plays, some pin pole type schemes. But all the success was between the tackles. Yeah, yeah, which was went.

01:59:17
Speaker 2: Power pretty well. You got the full back.

01:59:19
Speaker 3: In the game, yeah yeah, oh yeah.

01:59:21
Speaker 1: The personnel at that point, he was like, all right, running.

01:59:26
Speaker 3: The Cincinna was running the ball well too. I feel like both offensive lines were moving the line of scrimmage pretty good. But yeah, boys were leaning on him out.

01:59:33
Speaker 1: There, lean on But if I was rule, I mean you're looking at that being like, we know what our strength is. Like our boys can do gap scheme, they can do power, like let's just keep that our bread.

01:59:42
Speaker 3: And butter can get a fall start on the one yard line.

01:59:44
Speaker 1: No, but that Emmitt Johnson kid, that running back, he is impressive.

01:59:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was balance.

01:59:49
Speaker 1: There was only one time I saw one guy get him down and it was a great tackle by I think it was like a nickel or something like that out in the open field when he caught the ball. But that kid, no one's tackling him. He's impressive.

01:59:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully I listen. I hope you guys go eleven and one.

02:00:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that win looks real good.

02:00:05
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, this is it gets right here. I want you to know. Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking, yeah, is a sleeper.

02:00:15
Speaker 1: In this game wins the big twelve?

02:00:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, you used to see.

02:00:18
Speaker 1: That's how good we are, right right.

02:00:20
Speaker 3: He Look, you come out of that game and there's a lot of optimism. There's a lot of people that had Nebraska in their college football playoff. Dude, to strengthen schedule, Matt rule, year three, all that stuff. But you look back historically, it's like, you know, Josh pay tweeted about it. Oregon Idaho is pressing them. They end up, you know, having the years they had last year, winning the Big Ten, Notre Dame, losing the Northern Illinois, They're in the national title. Yeah, it's you know, you get the you get the bad plays out of the way early.

02:00:48
Speaker 1: Are you a big follower of Cincinnati.

02:00:51
Speaker 2: I don't follow college football as much, and I follow Cincinnati of course, just because it's all my honor, But I don't get as bad as much as I wanted to. I'm trying to get back more. This year. We got a new indoor like facility that we're like unveiling, and I want to go back to homecoming. I just feel like I've kind of been disconnected for a few years, and now that I'm retired, I realized I can go back.

02:01:12
Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, your college football juices are gonna wake up.

02:01:16
Speaker 2: It was also just fun going down on the field seeing like, you know, I played d line with Walt Stewart and I was coaching there, and like you see the familiar faces, like you see like you know the security guy that was on all the buses, and like you kind of get flashed back to like a previous decade and previous you know, moment in your life and it's really cool. So I'm gonna try and go back more now.

02:01:36
Speaker 1: It makes you appreciate, like you just think yourself like it's crazy how fast time goes, for sure, because you see all the stuff, like you walking on and then and then obviously having the career that you did, and I need to look back and be like, holy shit, all this stuff took place in what a sixteen year period and it just went by with that.

02:01:50
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's over now. But it's it's cool going back and seeing the familiar faces for sure, and seeing how it's like changed and progressing. I think it's a fun times.

02:01:59
Speaker 3: What's it like for you having all the success that you've had and knowing that you're a walk on a Cincinnati.

02:02:10
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think about it too. I think that the walk on honestly helped me, if I'm being very frank, like, I think, uh, it was something right away that you weren't given anything from the get go, and you had to come in and prove yourself, and like it kind of put a chip on my shoulder. So like I was the dickhead on Scout team that the center. Yeah, Jeff Fron said or hated me because I would give him a stinger we got out to try and run through his face and it.

02:02:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the worst type of guys.

02:02:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the way I was Like.

02:02:39
Speaker 2: It's like I've watched the movie Rudy and idolized Rudy so much, and then you get to like a certain point you're like Rudy's kind of an asshole, no doubt respect it.

02:02:48
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you're staying in your like seventh year at the Eagles and some guys trying to do that and you're you're not even.

02:02:53
Speaker 2: Remember that, You're just trying to my shoulders are.

02:02:58
Speaker 1: Shells. He's trying to, like what it was.

02:03:00
Speaker 2: At the Universe getting the back on me. But I was. I was a Scout Team Player of the Year. I was very happy with that. So's and uh so, I mean I think that it uh And then also if I'd have been a scholarship player, I don't know. How I would have handled being told to move the offensive line, Like I think I was a walk on. So when I first got proposed a question for like a spring ball, they're like, hey, we want to try out at center, Kels. I'm like, I just lost like twenty pounds because I got like my twenty pounds freshman weight up from drinking beers party and not having to play games and then over the winner. I had to lose a bunch of weight to try and get back to spring ball at a two thirty five, which is what I wanted to be at. Hey, we're gonna move you to semate. Why don't you guys tell me this. I wouldn't have just lost all this weight if you and they knew they were doing it anyways. But yeah, I think so I went there. I had a decent spring at two thirty five playing center, and they said we're going to keep you there, And I don't know if I would have been a scholarship player. If I was, I'll just transfer, I'll just go someplace else, or but they're like yeah, I said, all right, well, I'm not just gonna put sixty pounds on for free, and they're like okay, Well, we'll give you a scholarship. We can't do it in the fall, We'll do it in the winter once we get one freed up. But if you stay there, we'll put you on scholarship. So I don't know. I think it's a lot of ways my career ended up benefiting greatly from being a walk on. I think a lot of times I see like five star kids, four star kids where they let all these politics and there they view themselves as like a linebacker or a safety or whatever, and it messes with what's in their best interests, which usually coaches see right away. It's like they know most of the time like this kid's skill sets and attributes are better geared for this. And sometimes I think when you have I don't want to say like a big head, but like, have you come in with all of these expectations. It's hard to get off of those, especially as a young.

02:04:52
Speaker 1: Kid when you when you here go through a winter condition, you're getting all this weight off, and the coaches pull you and they like, hey, we want a movie to center, and your conversation is, I don't want to do this for.

02:05:01
Speaker 3: Free, buddy. I was thinking we kind of glossed over him. Being a sophomore being like I'm negotiating for a scholar, but.

02:05:06
Speaker 1: You're a walk You're a walk on. But we all know how kind of walk ons are treated. Basically your first For those people that don't know who are watching this, like the walk Ons come in and it's like basically like you see the Seals do. It's like we're gonna read out the week here who really wants to be here and who really just wants to wear the.

02:05:19
Speaker 3: Jersey and try to get Truly, you do as you're told, You do as.

02:05:22
Speaker 1: You're told for sure. Yeah, you're like less than the offense alignment.

02:05:24
Speaker 2: And you're getting The coaches are motherfucking and like I remember that that winner we were doing like winter conditioning. We just had so Mark D'Antoni recruited me. He left my first year and we had Brian Kelly came in, and they brought in a complete new offense and completely new coaches. We were taining maybe like one or two guys, but it was brand new. And I remember Mike Elston is the tight ends coach and we're going through winter conditioning and he's also the special teams guy, and he is mother fucking me. He's like you're He's like crushing me, saying like you're not ship and all this right in a in a good way, right, Like I'm not trying to like I like Mike Gelson for this, but he was trying to figure out who I was, and like I freaking made me work my ass off and like I'm freaking busting my ass.

02:06:12
Speaker 3: Uh.

02:06:12
Speaker 2: These fucking winter conditioning drills, board pushes on the freaking turf, they fucking suck. You're running stadium steps. In some ways I miss it, Like I missed the like agony of going through all that stuff. Now at the time it sucked, but then like once you get that respect, it was like there right, like I'm running down a kickoff and knee braces as a red shirt freshman, like wedge busting. Let's fucking go back. Yeah yeah, so yeah it was you. You are the tackling dummy of the team.

02:06:42
Speaker 6: You go to walk on.

02:06:43
Speaker 2: Right, they're just filling spaces to have you know, all the guys they want for all the drills they want to do basically, and.

02:06:50
Speaker 1: Once you get the Scout team player, the year you bring that plock you throw on the head, you want me to play.

02:06:54
Speaker 5: Here, you know what, you know the value I bring.

02:06:57
Speaker 1: You see the value efforts they want me to be go to center, whe that plaque do something.

02:07:02
Speaker 3: So totally you You for your own ego, you hated the move of like didn't wanting you to go to CENTI.

02:07:08
Speaker 2: Well, I just I don't know that I hated it. I just had never done it, and I had never thought of myself as an offensive lineman. Paul So the guy who really moved me to offensive line was Paul A. Long with the strength coach Cincinnati, and he had done this with a few other guys, so part of me was excited about like he did Joe Staley. So he did the same thing with Joe Staley Central Michigan, and Joe went on to have a phenomenal career with the forty nine ers. And I'm like he had done a few uh done with a couple of guys that Iowa was well, and I just felt like he sees something in me. And it was the first bit of like anything from being like a walk on where somebody's like, hey, like this kid's got like some potential and he like really believed that I could be a great offensive lineman. So I wouldn't say that. It was like I was not looking forward to it. I just had never done it and it was so foreign, And then to put that kind of weight on I was just like, I'm just going to say this because it seems like they want me to do this. I got feel in the room like they want me to be a center. They think I can progress into this. So yeah, that's awesome.

02:08:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long do you think it took you to like digest the playbook and a big conversation that, Yeah, we we have a conversation a lot when like Sue who episode doesn't come out yet, but talking about how defense is more like you know the play but it's more reactionary. Yeah, off, it's a line. It takes you got to fix it. Genius out there. Yeah, you've got to understand, especially at center and I tackled. You can have a big dumbdia to tackle. Sea's an athlete, let them do his thing, but at center, like there's so much you have to digest. I don't know what Brian Kelly's offense is really Like it was like point kind of pointing to the direction you guys are.

02:08:40
Speaker 2: Getting so pretty much. Yeah, yeah, you're like it's off the point, not off the mic.

02:08:43
Speaker 1: You're zoning into an area, not necessarily a person, which is a way easier.

02:08:47
Speaker 2: It is it is, and the spread aspect of it clears the box up defenders have to go out, So it was makes it real clean. Yeah, And it was no huddle, so you're the playbook is condensed by nature of a no total offense. So it was a good Uh, you know, welcome to that position. I had a good coach, Jeff Quinn, who ended up being a head coach right after I left a Buffalo over a couple of years, and I had a good I had a lot of great teaching right away, and then it was an easier offense, I would say, from like a mental standpoint, uh. And then also I think like very like playing defense helped me play offensive line and understand structure and where linebackers are at and why you know this guy's over here, like he should be in this gap, Like if he's stacking the nose guard, they're probably that safety's either going back or they're gonna blitz or all that stuff. Right, Like I understood why linebackers wud be in certain alignments and that helped me understand like, nobody's in the A gap. Somebody's gonna end up in this A gap. It's either gonna be the three technique or somebody's gonna blitz off the edge. And yeah, so I think that helped my transition into the offensive line position.

02:09:52
Speaker 1: When did you when did when do you? When did you think like, oh, the NFL is a real possibility for me once?

02:09:58
Speaker 2: Probably my junior year. You start it becomes at least it became apparent to me when you're playing with guys that you think, I'm just as good as these guys are, and then they start getting opportunities in the league. And I think my junior year is when I really started to be a pretty down good player and I'm seeing like, you know, counter bar when uh, you know, I'm trying to Trevor Canfield. There's all these guys at Cincinnati are getting opportunities. It's like then agents are calling you, and you're like, all right, I'm gonna at least get a shot at doing this potentially.

02:10:30
Speaker 1: Right, it's not over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't walk in.

02:10:33
Speaker 2: I did not think. I was just hoping to at least get an opportunity to go in.

02:10:37
Speaker 3: But yes, when you were going to the NFL, was it Did you think you were gonna go higher than the six round or for you, the entire mentality is ive seen an opportunity to get in camp.

02:10:45
Speaker 2: Uh So I didn't know where I was gonna go. I had a pendicitis at the combine. I did all this work to try and wait two ninety five at the combine. That was my goal. And I played in college at two eighty. So eating all this food, trying to get my weight up, and then all of a sudden I get sick. I'm throwing up, shipping my brains out, like not good stuff. Right, I'm going in in between like that that railroad or like meeting hall where all the coaches are in. I'm going with one team, going to the bathroom, throwing up, going to another team.

02:11:18
Speaker 1: And like officials you're talking about, correct, the official visits.

02:11:21
Speaker 2: Well, it's just in the train station like those like I'm not going in and back like Detroit. It's like, hey, come see me next, but yeah, I'll be right there. And then I'm fucking in the bathroom for fifteen minutes, like shitting, And it was and I thought I had like a stomach bug I thought I ate some I had sushi the night before, like maybe I ate some fucking raw fish that didn't sit well. And luckily Ramley, I felt better the last day, good enough where I was like, Okay, if I need to run, because it's like the one strength I have. If I don't go out here, if I don't run, I'm not going to be drafted. Yeah, it's fucked. And I go out there run do pretty well. What was your forty forty was four nine to two official?

02:11:59
Speaker 1: But you now I can look back at that and being like pendicitis all this?

02:12:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, and dude, I also ran on the wrong cleats I tried to get. I made the mistake of trying to get the lightest cleat possible, so I got like the soccer cleat that was like the lightest shoe that had ever been made. At that point, It's like, know, mess, he's wearing this thing. Yeah, not knowing that like a two hundred and ninety pound eighty pound person shouldn't be wearing that shoe. I felt like I was running this thing fucking barefoot. And then I went back and put my old cleat sign and then my times got better and like the shuttle still hold the all time shuttle record twenty yard shuttle better than the Shawn McCort's four one four. It's damn good shuttle. You got four with youre one four?

02:12:36
Speaker 1: God dang pretty good at those What was yours?

02:12:41
Speaker 3: What did I get?

02:12:45
Speaker 2: Yeah?

02:12:45
Speaker 1: He would like beat me, like edge me out and he'd be like, you're pretty quick, man, on those are kind of my things.

02:12:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, click inside the box.

02:12:53
Speaker 1: I got to move back and forth.

02:12:54
Speaker 2: The only reason I remember my time so well was because after I did it, the guy said four one four. I was like, well, I run close to that. I was like, I'm hoping I'm be in the four twos the four credit like, yep, I'm not running another one. It's good for me when.

02:13:08
Speaker 1: I got to when I got to the shuttle, because it's did you do vert, then forty, then shuttle?

02:13:13
Speaker 2: I think vert and broad jumper before the forty, then we ran the or maybe rot was yeah, but that was before and then the shuttle was at the very end of the workout.

02:13:21
Speaker 1: My biggest stresser was the forty because I knew I could run, and once I ran the forty and I got it, like, what was your time?

02:13:26
Speaker 5: Four eight?

02:13:27
Speaker 2: Seven. Nice big boy move.

02:13:30
Speaker 1: We felt good except for the year prior, like Lane Johnson ran a four to seven.

02:13:33
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, four seven one, and then toront Ar instead ran like a four six nine or something.

02:13:40
Speaker 5: It was crazy.

02:13:41
Speaker 1: Was also running at like two seventy five, wouldn't he Oh he had like a crazy I don't know if it was a weight thing. Yeah, but I was Atlanta. I was like, Okay, that's the time you get Yeah. But once I got to four eight, like kind of after that, I was like, I'm solid. Yeah, I feel so good about today. The drills are gonna be the drills are exactly By the time I got to the shuttle, I was like, well, I gotta get out of here.

02:13:57
Speaker 2: There is something with the combine. I'm like that forty nine is right. You're like, I just nailed this thing. Man, don't even give her about anything anything else that's happened to you.

02:14:06
Speaker 11: Yeah, we got has even happened yet. Yeah, stories that you guys held the produce in Nebraska.

02:14:22
Speaker 2: We so back to Uh why did I feel like I was gonna go higher after that whole thing happened. I weighed to eighty because I was sick or whatnot. Found out a week after that got sick again with the emergency room, had a pendinitis, and uh, I was just like, I don't know what's about to happen. Like I only weigh two hundred and eighty pounds. I don't remember the last time I got two hundred eighty pound center had been drafted at all. So I was kind of like I could go as high as like fourth or fifth, or I could be an undrafted free agent. And so I was still frustrated. You know, You're watching all the rounds go by, like I'm better than this, gosh, be going here all that. But once I got the call, it was fucking where were you at?

02:15:04
Speaker 3: Where were you at a depth chart wise going into Philly as a six round and were you at the bottom?

02:15:10
Speaker 2: I was in it. I got a very blessed and again like I got into an outstanding opportunity. Howard Mudd had just been with Thedanapolis Colts for ever with Jeff Saturday, and he came into Philadelphia and I think he envisioned me being the Jeff Saturday type mold and I think he wanted me. He's since passed away, unfortunately, but I really do think he drafted me and thought that I was going to be like the starting center, even in the sixth round. And we had a guy Jamal Jackson, who had been there for a long time, had been very successful, what was coming off of like a couple of injuries back to back, so I think. And then also he was a bigger body with Wuanca Steele, Howard wanted a athletic center to do these sprint draws and screens and things. So I was bumped up very quick in training camp and this is the lockout here. I didn't even have an off season, right, So my first thing getting the playbook was training camp in Lehigh like two months before the first game. You like, what the yeah, And like within two weeks they're starting, They're starting to rep me with the starters. So it was like a very unrealistic opportunity that I got awarded very quickly.

02:16:22
Speaker 1: And who was that senate that was there for a long time, j James? What was that relationship?

02:16:25
Speaker 2: Like? You know, he handled it very well considering it was kind of shitty position for him. He was nothing but great to me. He would help me out in terms of like how to make calls, how to navigate like crowd noise, like all these things. And he was still on the team for the whole season. So Jamal was great and it was like a Q Shipley was there that year, freaking uh Mike McGlenn. I don't know if you guys remember that name at all, but we had a very awesome room and uh, Jamal was great.

02:16:57
Speaker 3: How is it going on in your head when you kind of know what's going down and once you started learning about the politics of the NFL, what do you mean like with you overtaking his spot, just handling it as a guy that is overtaken kind of the throne and being a young guy and being like, you know, I don't want to rub people the wrong way.

02:17:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

02:17:16
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just tried to be I was just trying to play football well and not think about a lot of that stuff. I mean, when you're a rookie, I think you and I look back now and realize these type of dynamics, but in the time, you don't realize it. You're just playing ball, and you know, you.

02:17:32
Speaker 1: Just hear the ten year events being like got to watch out all these polities, and you're like that must be a thing that happens later, right then.

02:17:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they weren't even talking to me about that at that point, you know what I mean. I think it's you realize later what an unbelievable opportunity that was, and like how that kind of happens throughout the NFL and like draft picks and salaries and things like that and how that all shapes you know, a lot of the decisions that are made. But at that moment, I was just like beyond excited to try and play. Yeah, and you know it was Jamal handled it really well, especially concidered, Like I don't think he was in a position in his career where like he was still trying to play and start, you know what I mean, That's a very tough position to be in where it feels like I got a word an opportunity and they were pushing for me to be the guy and he was already there, So I mean he was great.

02:18:20
Speaker 3: You were part of the chip Kelly experience. The experience.

02:18:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get chip Kelly two point oh coming up the season.

02:18:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, with the Raiders. What for you looking back, what were what were things that worked? What was things that were smoking? Merors and I also got asked, like, what was it like for you know, an O line group going through up tempo practices?

02:18:39
Speaker 2: What you did you get to Washington?

02:18:41
Speaker 3: I was there from thirteen, so you were there for that first team. Yeah. Yeah, that was like well the first game, like it was like, oh shit, Chip Kelly in the NFL coming.

02:18:51
Speaker 2: It felt like we were going to win the Super Bowl after one game in the season, Like nobody's fucking stopping us. Yeah, And you know, I think Chip brought a very interesting mindset into the NFL that at that point really hadn't permeated, which is like there was this new spread offense and the huddle and like not even just that, but like sports science, and like he took the organization in a direction that I think for a long time when I first got to the NFL, like you're still just like lifting machines and like it was like felt like it was dated, right, And I think a lot of the things that he brought to the NFL, like we still do and now other teams have taken on, like RPOs are much bigger part of the NFL league wide, and the zone reads now a lot of teams implement them in certain situations, even if that's not your bread and butter. Like, I think a lot of the things that he did have revolutionized in a lot of ways, some of the ways that the NFL operates. But with that, there are also a lot of things that we were kind of shooting from the hip, and like you know, we were going revamping, like the schedule and like Saturday before Sunday were like running full speed. As a young guy, I didn't care because I don't really feel great. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. And I actually felt good on game day running on Saturday before the game. But then you think about like a thirteen year vet, who's I got bad knees, Like brother, I can't fucking run on Saturday, and then I need my knees to feel really good. That's more important than priming my nervous systems. So it was in a lot of ways. I really appreciate and enjoyed that tenure, and I think that the Eagles got much better as an organization because of it. But it was definitely some innovative things that probably in retrospect might change a little bit.

02:20:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, it seems like.

02:20:41
Speaker 1: It was before his time a little bit. It was what you're saying.

02:20:44
Speaker 2: He was on the cutting edge of everything, and I think whenever you do that, you run the risk of, you know, jumping in on something that sounds really good in theory, but if you implement it too fast, you don't think about some of the intended consequences or ramifications. It's hard to predict those. And some of the stuff was gold, And again we still ended up implementing and I think other teams kind of stowing. Now everybody has like a sports science or sport like conditioning person and like GPS monitors. I think we were like the first team doing that in practice. But there's a lot of other things that I think it was hard to get players to buy into some of them, especially veteran players. And I think in college it was a lot easier to do things with younger players and so much more depth.

02:21:30
Speaker 3: You got like one hundred and twenty guys.

02:21:31
Speaker 1: Guys from high school facility.

02:21:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's less of a there's less ego, there's less guys that have been doing things, like they're more bought in, like they've only been to one university at least at that time before the NIL thing. So it's like it's just a different dynamic, and it was harder to do some of these things, especially with veteran guys who were like, I've been doing it this way my whole career, why are we now doing this? And understandable, like you know, I mean, Jason Peter is like the best.

02:21:56
Speaker 5: Tackle in the NFL.

02:21:57
Speaker 2: It's how he knows how to be good on game day, right, like, how are we so it was? It was, it was good, and when we were winning, it was fantastic. Once we started losing, then it became a little bit more of an issue. But I'm excited to see how he does with the Raiders this year. I really think that I'm sure he's learned a lot, and I think he is by all intense, I think he's like a very very smart person, and I think he's uh, you know, calculated and savvy. And I'm wishing him and Pete Carroll and all those guys nothing but successfu.

02:22:30
Speaker 1: That division is going to be maybe the most fun to.

02:22:32
Speaker 2: Watch about the coaches. I mean just for like of the best coaches of the last like what ten twenty years, like it's it's outrageous and all all of the teams have gotten better starts off right away with the Chargers and the Chiefs down in Brazil. It's gonna be it's gonna be a fun division.

02:22:47
Speaker 1: That division.

02:22:50
Speaker 2: I think I gotta go.

02:22:51
Speaker 1: Chiefs and then like a plus one hundred to win that.

02:22:55
Speaker 2: I you know, it does feel like now it's popular right now to kind of say like, oh, the Chiefs aren't the same Chiefs of old and very popular. I think it's a lot. It's very easy to do off of the Super Bowl where it ended like that as well. But they did go fifteen and one last year, and they're not like they're objectively better I think personnel wise than they were last year, and they won a lot of close games by being just a tight knit group and having a phenomenal quarterback and head coach and being able to operate to end the game scenario. Is much better than most teams. But until somebody can prove that, like until Baltimore can get this monkey off their back, until the Bills can get this monkey off the back, I don't know who in the AFC I can. I'm not ready to jump ship on the Chiefs. And that's and I'm saying that even regardless of my personal connections with the entire coaching staff, Travis like they just like at some point, these guys have some weird thing to them that they know how to win football games, and it's you know, Herbert's got to demonstrate it to me before I started getting on the Charger bandwagon.

02:24:03
Speaker 3: But the Broncos a little spicyted.

02:24:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year of the Michael's defense was very, very good. Now it's talked about because the team wasn't successful. Bo Nick's going into year two. Listen again, it's going to be an exciting it is not. You know, the the division is much more competitive this year than it's been a long time. Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

02:24:24
Speaker 1: And it'd be crazy for you to not take the Chiefs. I feel like that'd be bigger than news. Then your brother getting engaged, the coach, anybody, all your friends. Honestly, I think this year the Chargers that would flip the world upside the world upside down. I didn't want to jump to Andy Reid quite yet, but okay, can.

02:24:46
Speaker 3: I ask one fan question, a just one young fan question, What was it like playing with Michael vick Uh.

02:24:52
Speaker 2: I had never been starstruck up into that moment and the first time at like a it was like the walk through and I don't even know why I was still there because I was still with the twos and threes at that point, like and it wasn't even just Mike, it was also Vince Young, and at that point, Vin still had like an aura to him as well. So like my first quarterback room was like Michael Vick and Vince Young and like I'm snapping to both of them and like a walk through and I'm like, what the fuck is going on right now? And like Mike puts his hands under my ass, and I'm like, this is a fucking I've never been happier to have a man's hands under my butt. It was. It was, Uh, it was pretty awesome. And uh he's just such a freaking great dude too. Like you know, you meet guys and you always wonder what they're like, and Mike was nothing but like incredible as a teammate. He could he would throw the ball and I still like I've never seen anybody I'm like blocking and you could hear like the spin that he would put on the ball with like there's a last little like finger. I don't know what it was, but it was like it was like sizzle passed. It was crazy. His his his talent was remarkable, even at that age, coming out of the penitentiary, all of it, like it was impressive.

02:26:03
Speaker 1: That is a crazy thing, gets out, stretches.

02:26:07
Speaker 2: His arms, sling it take off years.

02:26:11
Speaker 1: Like him and Mike Tyson. Right, the two guys just came back and kind of got better.

02:26:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy nut.

02:26:18
Speaker 3: Because last night I was watching he was doing like a either like a halftime interview because he's he's the head, he's the head guy at Norfolk State. Yeah, and after that, I didn't get to bed until like one twenty last night because I stayed up watching top like highlights of Michael Vick Giants game, Minnesota, the Vikings game, seeing him spin it, throwing that bomb at Deshaun Jackson. It was like eighty yards.

02:26:41
Speaker 2: Him and djack together was just so lethal because he could throw the ball a mile and nobody I've never I mean, Randy Moss was another great deep ball player, but tracking on a deep ball, it was like he was just like glide. It was like effortless and somehow he kicked it into another gear. It was the best ever running that. Now, talk about Mike at Norfolk. D Jack is at Delaware State. Yeah, they're going to play a game in the link with both of those guys as the head coaches.

02:27:10
Speaker 5: It's just wild.

02:27:11
Speaker 3: Did you And I was listen, I was a teammate of d Jack as well, but when I saw that he was a head coach at my man, D Jack's a head coach of a football team.

02:27:23
Speaker 1: It's happening. It's all going changed everything, well.

02:27:28
Speaker 2: The nil deals and like the way that the whole college landscape is changing. And Dean was one of the first people to take advantage and realize, I mean, college football is a very weird spot right now, where like you're selling the team more as the head coach, either to gain money for marketers and advertisers or players and recruiting. And it's uh that now is being is able to be much more a part of building a team than it ever was. And it feels like a lot of the teams, especially the lower tier teams that have been able to replicate some of this stuff, have real that. And I mean, listen, D Jack is one of the best players of all time. He's got, he's got He's built a staff there with a bunch of former NFL guys that know what they're doing, and he's selling the program and he's got more buzz around it than they've probably ever had in the history of their like, right, college. So I don't know. I think it's fun and I can't wait to watch it. I can't.

02:28:21
Speaker 3: I can't either.

02:28:22
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch a documentary about this time in college football ten years from now. For sure it is going to be because it really is. The wild West has so much money being thrown around. You know, who's getting what these guys have? Like you see like Rayola, he's getting three point one million dollars in IOL this year. But that's just what this Like the school's getting what other sponsorships? What are the things are they grab him?

02:28:38
Speaker 2: And you think they're making more in the other stuff? Right? Or is it less?

02:28:41
Speaker 3: I think so.

02:28:42
Speaker 1: I I think at least in the fan base, it depends on like the resources and they're trying to cap on that, right I think they are. Yeah, they just did right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah. This is one of those first Like this past draft is like one of the first times you're looking at these kids. Like Schador is a great example of he made five million dollars last year. Now he's making five hundred and forty seven thousand, yeah, you know, And it's just like it's just nuts of how colleges really turned into like a minor league NFL now for sure, which I kind of love.

02:29:08
Speaker 2: No, I think it's great. I mean, I think they're still figuring out the kinks. Like there's some negative drawbacks. I don't like the guys can transfer twice a year. I wish there was like a little bit of a commitment to a university. I don't think it should be what it was. It feels like now before the colleges had all the power and the players had nothing and they didn't get paid at all, and now it's completely reverted to like the players have like almost all the power now can transfer whenever you want. It feels like there can be like some middle ground that's probably in the best interest of everybody. But this verst what we had. I mean, I think this is much better.

02:29:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, objectly better than what it was.

02:29:44
Speaker 2: Where like guys, you know, especially guys that like toward the ACLS and they were like unbelievable guys in college and they should have been able to capitalize on that I mean, it's it's it's it was unfair then it's a much more fair system now. I think think that we can continue to make this better moving forward.

02:30:03
Speaker 1: I think what it's missing those exactly like what you two are wearing right now, Like you're all Cincinnati Bearcadat, you're all Nebraska. Like you're going to have like five to ten guys on a team that play all four years or all three years because they're just absolute stuff's Like Jeremiah Smith for a hoow State. He's not leaving Ohio State. He's going to make a billion dollars and he's going to be, you know, the top five pick, so he's going to have the pride of Ohio State. But a lot of these guys that transfer, I mean they're coming in, they're stand in front of the team telling them there, you know, sounding bonus what school they went to. That's fifteen minutes to talk about all the damn teams they've been to. So you're kind of losing, like, oh, for sure college football is, which is what we got to see last night.

02:30:39
Speaker 2: Yeah you know for sure?

02:30:43
Speaker 3: Yeah leaving wheel right there, like all good lights went off for session.

02:30:49
Speaker 12: Michael Vick was great, yeah, we had.

02:30:54
Speaker 3: I mean I think d Jack would come again. You talk about tracking the ball, it's like he'd run back to the huddle and you just hear him. I remember one time in o Ta's and he's just telling Kirk, He's like, bro, just throw it as far as you can, like, I'll find a way, I'll get to it. And this is legitimately. His speed was crazy.

02:31:11
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever I don't think I ever saw him get overthrown, like legitimately, I don't. And maybe there's a clip out there somewhere. Yeah, I don't remember ever seeing it. And it was like it was no matter where you put that ball up. He it was legitimately like a center field of track a baseball. And he was so good at it. Yeah, it was, and he would it was. It was again like the best players, I feel like, just make it look look effortless. It didn't even look like he was trying to run fast. He was just like floating across the ground.

02:31:39
Speaker 3: Right.

02:31:40
Speaker 2: Yeah.

02:31:40
Speaker 1: Anyway, we had Howie Roseman on the pub when we were out and Philly. We got to see it for a little bit after. I was just think it was like a day after you died your beard.

02:31:48
Speaker 3: It was like I walked in. I walked in and go to the bathroom and he's sitting there. He's on the phone. I wasn't gonna bother him, and he says, what's up. And when I got done going going potty, I come back out and I'm just like.

02:32:03
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, he's got young kids.

02:32:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I see, uh, I see he died the beard and he's like he was, he's gonna heat. I had it on mute and he's like, too long a story. Yeah, I died.

02:32:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, insecure about the fact that I died, like the opposite, Like I didn't die because of my insecurity. Now I'm insecure because I died. Yeah, and I can't wait for it to grow back. But yeah, you get the Grays coming in. They're coming. It'll be here quick, yeah, be here quick.

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02:34:39
Speaker 2: I mean how he has always been like a meticulous like always working like relentless GM right, And I think that like the best coaches I know, the best players I do, they all have like this underlying thing of like they just like do not stop. They're unbelievably passionate about what they do, and there's a relentlessness that separates. And then how he's also just he like did like his college thesis or something like that on the salary cap, like he knows all this stuff so well in and out. And he would do you guys know how he got into league? Do you go over that with you guys? He would like he was like emailing Tanniball. He would like, dude, like cold call emails. So like just trying to get into building. So he worked his ass off to climb up and get into a uh like an occupation that most people would have given up way before that. And I think when Chip came in, and then they gave Chip a lot of the power and making personal deseason and everything, they moved Howie to the side of the building. When he came out, it was like another it was like a renewed sense of urgency, which is like he already had it, but it was like magnified and he he was putting in all sorts. You could tell even when he was over in that building, even though he didn't have control within the team, He's like, if I get this opportunity to get that control back, I'm making these moves right here. I like Joe Douglas, I want to He was already trying to figure out where are we struggling at? How can I immediately improve the team? And uh, I mean it just I felt like he shifted a lot of his philosophies and player evaluation and like how he was building a roster and all of that stuff. In that timeframe. He was continuing to grow. And then when he got his opportunity again, it freaking hit the ground run and we I'm trying to think of like the first moves we made, but it was like right by like he got rid of I think Byron Maxwell was on like a contract that was like pretty outrageous and he was coming off of a bad year, and then there's there's another contract and right away he finds ways to like offload these contracts, bring in other guys, like he was he's he has a way of making deals happen. I mean the AJ Brown one is like such a well known one where it's like, how the fuck did you do this right? And even when we've had down years, we've rebounded so quick, And I do think a big reason for that is like how he somehow knows how to like manipulate these things quicker than I think other gms and teams can. And I'm trying to weed a linebacker Keiko Alonso. Yeah, Like it's just like from the MO when it's not working out and not trying to throw shade at any of these guys, Like it's just not happening. A lot of times you get these you're under a contract. How do you get rid of this guy without like cutting him or like having to eat that number? And it felt like he somehow would like make these moves and it's like, how did you get these guys after that year be interested in that number? And he was just really good at a lot.

02:37:29
Speaker 1: Of this StuffYeah him bringing down the Aja Brown trade and talking about how between like picks twelve and fourteen, like the deal was in place, but they had to get AJ's like contract done. Yeah, in that whatever twenty minute span, and he just the way he just operated and got it done, knowing like this is the move.

02:37:43
Speaker 2: And I don't remember there being any noise about that, Like typically when something like that happens on game day, like there's like a leaks of like, hey the Titans might be moving AJ Maybe there was, and maybe I just wasn't aware of it.

02:37:55
Speaker 1: A little bit of talks, like there was like a press conference with Mike Vrabel and they asked like j Brown, is he an option? And He's like, as long as I'm the head coach, Adrian Brown will be on this football team.

02:38:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he shut it down right away.

02:38:06
Speaker 1: And then three days later or whatever, Yeah, the draft night and then you see him get up and he kind of like does one of these and you're.

02:38:11
Speaker 5: Like, oh, Braves didn't like that at all.

02:38:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, did not like that at all.

02:38:15
Speaker 2: Because I'm on like with Adam Lefko doing like a whole draft thing, and he it comes down across the ticker. I'm live on air. I'm like, I didn't even know this is a fucking like, yeah, they kept this so quiet?

02:38:25
Speaker 3: Why? Yeah?

02:38:26
Speaker 2: And like how quickly he had to operate that in And I mean, the dude just does not leave any stone unturned. He is always like trying to figure out a way to maximize value, whether it's from like a contract standpoint, h like a personnel standpoint in the building. Like he's maniacally, he's relentless and like his pursuit to do all that stuff.

02:38:46
Speaker 3: And yeah, with in your like in your last years, what was your relationship like with Howie, Like when you're getting to those years, is Jason going to retire? Is he going to come back? Like what is that relationship? Like with the GM did.

02:39:00
Speaker 1: A good job of milk And I think it's like three years in a row.

02:39:02
Speaker 2: It's like it was good because I was actually thinking about it and it ended up working out to like a benefit of just seeing like wondering deals. It benefited everybody. And I think the Howie was great to me and I think he really valued me. Fletcher, Brandon, Graham and now Lane Johnson his guys that had been there for a long time. And this is one thing that I think the Eagles did a great job of. The they whenever they like are shifting, Like I played for four different head coaches, all of us did, and how many not only did four of us play for over a decade together, but we did it through like four different coaching regime changes. Like it's like crazy that through all this turnover they kept semblances there as long as they did. And I think when you just try to overturn everything, like you sell shop on the head coach and you're like, we're gonna revamp this roster, and you try and do it all at once, you lose sometimes the chemistry and the camaraderie and things that happened within the building that are really important. And it's a credit to Jeffrey and Howie and how they've they've changed things, but at the same time we have like a continual not like train of thought, but like a there's like a there's like a link between all of those eras because they've kept pieces in place or coaches like Jeff Stoutlin's been through three different coaches, Duce Staley was there for three different coaches, Like they've always kind of changed, but also kept certain pieces around to kind of try and keep the locker room and culture and like what it is to be on the Eagles like kind of there, if that makes sense. So how he took care of me, like I had never felt like I was underpaid. He found a way to make the numbers work, and like whatever, freaking you know, it's like a signing bonus here, a roster bonus there. That's what I watch other teams and they can't figure out stuff with certain players. I'm like, I don't ever remember that being an issue with Howie. Like I feel like he always is like, Okay, you want this, all right, I'll figure out a way to get you that or close to it where you're happy, and then just structure it this way so that the team benefits from how it's structured. And it feels like he does that better than anybody else. And he did that all my last career, Like let's say the top of the center market my last couple years, like twelve to fourteen a year was like the number I might make like nine on the books, but I earn it all. I'm still getting twelve to fourteen for one year of work. It's just structured in a way that it's happening in being spread out over two, three, four years. And I just feel like he has this understanding of the salary cap and like way of like thinking in the future and like planning that. I think a lot of teams just don't do as good of a job.

02:41:49
Speaker 1: Were you ever close to leaving the Eagles?

02:41:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixteen, the year before Super Bowl. I had a really bad start to the year. I played against the Cleveland Browns, had an awful game. Andy Shelton beat the fuck out of me, and uh I played. I didn't have a great game against Chicago. I played well against Pittsburgh but had like a couple plays. So like the media narrative had already been that like Kelsey's struggling this year. I end up finishing the season really well. But there was all sorts of news on you know, is Kelse's gonna get traded, He's gonna get cut? Are they going to move on from him? And like some of the stuff when it comes out, you know it's coming from the Eagles, right, Like it's like they're gonna like the Eagles are gonna trade Jason Kelcey for mark Ingram. I'm like that's not coming from New Orleans, Like this is the Eagles trying to like put this out here right and listen. I didn't play well, Like it wasn't like it sucks when you're going through it. But objectively I didn't have a great year, and thankfully Jeff Stotlin, I think he was like the one guy in the building that was still like Kelse is still the guy, Like he just needs to fix his technique, do these things, like he did it for the second of the year, and he played really well, Like I still think that he can be the guy, and it's like him and oh my gosh, I'm blanking. Yeah. I mean, he's pretty much the reason why I still was there in twenty seventeen. And then I had the best I had personally had the best year of my career in twenty seventeen, and the Eagles in the Super Bowl. It was like a fucking crazy shift of offseasons. I was like, could not have gone better? Yeah, so yeah, it was very close. It was very close, and I had listen, I did not play well that year. I put a lot of work in that offseason, started doing some different things technique wise. I also think I started to struggle a little bit earlier in the year because we went from this no huddle offense back to a huddle offense, and I got away with a lot of things in the no huddle offense, with bad hand placement and things because you deal with like the d Lineman's fatigue, and then all of a sudden, like they have more energy because the pace is slower, and these technique things that really probably would have manifested earlier are now being magnified because Danny Shelton's not tired. Right, and now I'm going out here with hands like this and three hundred and fifty pound persons butting ahead of my chest. Right. That's not a good recipe never is. So it uh, it ended up being like the best thing that ever happened, And like I had all of my personal accolades other than like one or two Pro Bowls came after that year, and I played much better as a player after twenty sixteen as a result.

02:44:31
Speaker 3: When you go ahead, I was just gonna I was gonna ask about the retirement thing again. You have another one. No, No, I was.

02:44:37
Speaker 1: Gonna go to the Super Bowl and the wins nickname, but go ahead, uh, Nick.

02:44:43
Speaker 3: My question was going to be, what were the conversations like when you were retired? Was there offer on the table for you to come back the Eagles? A lore is the rumors out there as you had a nine million dollar offer on the table for you to come back if you were to retire.

02:44:56
Speaker 2: That a lore, I think, So are you making this up right now?

02:45:00
Speaker 3: I'm not.

02:45:01
Speaker 1: You didn't hear.

02:45:02
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles would have found a way to have me back again if I would have wanted to And at that point, like if I wanted to play, I was't gonna play for another team anyways. And this is where like it's weird late in your career where it's like I was still getting good money, but like if I I wasn't going to go anyplace else, like I would have taken way less and they were still taking care of me. So this is really nice you guys. I don't know if you know, but I'll play for like five million cause I still want to play football. But I think the I just I think everybody knew that I wanted to retire, and it never got to a point that contracts were even discussed. So I don't know if there wasn't offer there, but I do think that if I would have wanted to come back, the Eagles would have found a way to make it work.

02:45:46
Speaker 1: Got you, I made it when you retire. Sakon Barkley comes back in he is starting to have the year he is when they win the Super Bowls or a PC, it's like, fuck, I should have just don't want more.

02:45:55
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I think when you watch your team, when you're like one season away from it, you're like, man, I could have been a part of that. That does go through your head, But I really don't think I would have made it. My body was like firmly like I'm done.

02:46:10
Speaker 3: Man Like.

02:46:11
Speaker 2: It was hard at that point to get through practice during the week. They had already like taken Wednesdays off of my shoulder. I was still struggling to get back for Thursdays. And I felt the decline happening right, I felt, even though it might not have manifested to everybody else, like I felt myself getting weaker. I felt myself not blocking guys as well. So I just I didn't want to be a guy that hung on and tried to play until the very last moment. I really wanted to be like, Okay, I don't think I can do this anymore. I can't play or do it the way I want to or at the level I want to, and I'm gonna stop before this thing really takes a nose dive, and I think it would have that year. I don't think my body was going to make another year.

02:46:55
Speaker 1: When you talk about just like your strength, everything, all the things, you don't want to play that long. How impressive is it to you about Jason Peters. Dude, I think is he still playing?

02:47:03
Speaker 2: It's insane. I mean, I know they offered him a contract. He would I mean he should, I would bet. I don't know. He loves football, man, and that dude still the most like gifted like person that And maybe it's just because I was a rookie when I first came in and he's doing a one on one with like Trent Cole and the way he like jumped out of his stance, I was like, what the fuck is that? Like? It was like and Howard was a jump setting guy and he would teach the tackles of like be very aggressive at past pro and this dude did like a standing broad jump and just in golf Trent Williams, and I was like, I don't know, I don't think I can play in this league. And then I watched like the next couple guys going I'm like, okay.

02:47:40
Speaker 1: I could do it. Was he did an amazing job of getting out of his stance, like he would explode out and he would be at the spot before the guy took two steps.

02:47:51
Speaker 2: And JP played for a long time. I really think it's really unfortunate because that Super Bowl year he tours a c O. If he went towards a c O, he probably he would have continued to have just like amazing success. That was kind of like the moment where it like he came back from it. But you know, at that age having an ACL tear, it's hard. And the fact that he played that many years after that, like he was he was just like a one of one dude. The strength, the explosion, uh, the the like. He wasn't like a x's and o's guy, but his instincts for the game were like fucking incredible, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, he would be like we would have like an alert call for like pressure off the edge or something like that, and I look out there and think we're all good, and JP like like give me the tip that the pressure on. How the fuck is he seeing this? He's out the end was tighter and like little things like that like that. I don't I don't know. I know that doesn't sound amazing, but like he would constantly do that, and he would make decisions in the middle of a play that like ended up usually being the right decision, even when it's not the way the play was drawn up. He was a football player.

02:48:57
Speaker 1: Right, No one's going to enjoy this question, But what are one of those examples of him changing something up into play? Because to me, I was changing something.

02:49:04
Speaker 2: I'm talking like like, let's say we got like a jet motion going across the formation and we're expecting zone and we think that everybody's gonna bump. They don't bump. The guy runs, and sometimes guys will go too far thinking they got to push the point to a linebacker that they think is then going to become in this a gap. Right, he would he would use his instincts to just know that because this backer didn't move out of that gap, they're not bumping. And I think a lot of tackles or players get really regimen into this is my rule on the play, this is what I'm supposed to do. Yeah, And JP had the savviness to like know that, like listen, I'm I'm hitting this angle and if that guy doesn't move, I'm gonna stay here. And I don't even know if he like was cognitively thinking like that. I just like he knew football, you know what I mean, Like he knew space and part of it. He played special teams when he's young in Buffalo, and he played tight end in college. So I think when you when you have like a more well rounded like view of football and offense and structure and space and where you're at in the field, he just was very, very good in a lot of those regards.

02:50:13
Speaker 1: I feel it with offensive line, like you get so used to rules and how players are supposed to be beating your head so much that common sense kind of like you lose it sometimes where guys gets so regiment and so black and like this is my job. If he does this, then I do that. But it's like at the end of the day, it's like, if this guy's in the gap, that's the guy. That's you, that's he that's your guy.

02:50:30
Speaker 2: Yes and a thousand and you need the rules because they're there. You need the structure, and you need to have like responsibilities and whatnot. But sometimes a lot of players, especially high IQ guys, can get bogged down with that. Right, dude, just play fast man, Like, why are you overthinking this right now?

02:50:45
Speaker 3: Exactly?

02:50:46
Speaker 2: My brother. It's funny we're talking about kause. Trav and I were talking last night and he gave me some gold that Andy gave him. Andy Heck, the offensive line coach with the Chiefs. It's like they're running some counter player or something like that. It's like, oh, what happens if like the backers in that gap? Like I know I'm supposed to go outside, but like if he's in here, and Andy, he's like, you'll make the right decision.

02:51:08
Speaker 1: That is awesome because I had my first couple of years with the Titans, like I had a coach that was like, you do you follow the rules?

02:51:14
Speaker 2: Yeah?

02:51:14
Speaker 1: Like I have an answer for everything. You follow the rules. So twenty sixteen, Russ Grimm comes in, who played for the Redskins for a long Yeah legend. I've told the story so many times. But he just his ability to get me to relax on the rules. Yeah, like what do you have on starter? Like, well, if it's a if it's three technique, I'm going to douce to the backside linebacker who's the mic? But if not that, I'm gonna go through and at the end time, He's like, no, no, no, no. Basically, close your eyes, go to eleven o'clock.

02:51:36
Speaker 2: There you go.

02:51:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the guy you wrent into and the being able to be freed of all the rules and regulations have to take place. Yes, it was massive for my career. Well, then you just go back to being an athlete and being a football player and like to run around the coaches that can really dumb it down and make it have like that little mechanism that snaps a guy into just being a player is I think the best coaches and Howard Jeff Stalin's like that, So it's Howard Muddy. Ward Mud would say some of the most outrageous things like this is a guy that coached multiple Hall of famers, he played in the league for a long time, and like his past blocking technique was.

02:52:11
Speaker 5: Go out there and shake his hand.

02:52:14
Speaker 2: It's like, what are you talking about? How I get into the position that you would shake his hand and you'll be in the perfect position to block.

02:52:20
Speaker 1: He's kind of genius.

02:52:21
Speaker 2: He's like, how do you, like, how do I block a three techning? How He's like, how do you walk.

02:52:24
Speaker 5: Through a door? And I'm like, what the fuck does that have to do with Howard.

02:52:29
Speaker 7: That's crazy.

02:52:30
Speaker 2: He was fucking so funny and how do you walk through a door? It was just like an outland of human being. But he was great and he was low key a genius and some of the things he would say, and he would give every like little mechanisms like so like we used to call it like being in the matrix right you're struggling having a bad game and you're overthinking. It's like, oh, you took the wrong pill, Like you're in the you're in an area that you don't know where you're at right now, brother, and Howard would uh, he would have each guy have like this little mechanism like if you're ever in that moment, like for somebody might be like two hands in the throat, next set, just go there, put two hands on the guy's throat. For me, it's like just hop, like just hop. He's like just hop. And but it would get you out of like overthinking it and it would get you back to just like, hey, let's just focus on one very minute thing and then just play ball. And I think that's a very underrated part of coaching, is like the mental side of it and knowing how to get guys out of their own head.

02:53:27
Speaker 1: Is he giving you like the hop as like your cue or is there something you would.

02:53:30
Speaker 2: Do that was his technique for undersized centers. It's a meal kick. Yeah. Yeah, so he his whole thing with me is like whenever I was struggling, most of the times, it was the power. So he's like, just get your two hands on him and hop like, don't even over you're way overthinking this. Just do that.

02:53:47
Speaker 3: Now.

02:53:48
Speaker 2: It doesn't always work right, You're passing off a game and your two hands underneath hopping, Like, yeah, it's not going to go very well, but it was. It was really good. On average. It really did benefit and it got you out of your own head, which was the purpose of it. And I'm trying to remember there was another thing I was going to say there about Howard, but yeah, his whole thing with pass blocking was and I still use this with guys, especially new guys, Like we had a guy uh oh my god, Holland I can't remember massive guy with the Eagles of sharing camp and from Rutgers played d Lin's playing offensive line. He's figuring things out and asking me at least pass blocking questions, and like football can hand play, Like, brother, did you play basketball? They just go play basketball, like the quarterbacks the hoop and just stay in front of this motherfucker. That's not that's you're you're thinking about way too much, just getting into that relationship anyways, So basketball, play basketball.

02:54:44
Speaker 3: I feel like basketball is a big like coaches, and that's always said, well.

02:54:48
Speaker 2: Because it's relatablest most players at some point basketball. Yeah, and like for the at least the quarterback, Like if you understand how to be for a new guy who doesn't understand the relateationship you need to be in with a player having that frame of mind of like the hoop is at seven yards and right here, and you're just trying to force him away from that, Like, don't think about what foot is back and what hand you're punching with yet, Like, just get into the proper body position and then we can focus on that other stuff.

02:55:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've gotten to you mentioned getting to play for four different head coaches. What what makes like, uh thinking about Sirianni and coach read because you got to play for both of them. Yeah, what makes them each good and unique in their own right? Getting to play for guys like that?

02:55:35
Speaker 2: So it's it's really hard for me to like analyze Andy Reid because I was with him for my first two years and my second year. I was hurt for all of it, so like I wasn't at the stage yet where I was like analyzing the head coach and like had the frame of reference to truly know it.

02:55:50
Speaker 3: Like being a full leader on the guy on there.

02:55:52
Speaker 2: And when I got there, and he had already had a decade of going to NFC championship games, went to a super Bowl, so like he was already established as one of the best coaches in the NFL. So there was an aura of about Andy that like, this is one of the best coaches in the NFL. He's very like stoic guy. So like when you would do something, I think when he gave you like that that sugar, like you did a good job, it felt real good because it was like so Spai said, he would give it out right, and he had a way about him where like he was like a tough, hard nosed guy, but at the same time loved his players and he was able to infuse that. And it's a really hard line to walk because usually either guys were like overly friendly with the players or they're overly hard asses on the players. And Andy had has just as good as I've seen a way of maintaining discipline, maintaining like like people were afraid of Andy, you know what I mean, And but they also like loved him and wanted to please him because of like who he was and like how he would fall on the sword and and press conferences and how he would handle himself and how we talk to you in the middle of a game. Like he's just he's a very unique person that I think is unanimously almost unanimously loved by like every player that's from and that's extremely hard to be. And then Nick is I mean he was young and just like the amount of energy. And I talked about this. We talked about it with Howie. I think about it with defensive I really like this relentlessness is like a big like thing that I believe in. Like the guys that are the best at everything, just like there's a they just like do not stop or get tired or like like like van derbosch Uh in Tennessee, like that dude would never stop rushing the passer. And I think Nick right away, he's just like the amount of energy. He attacks every single day, with every single meeting out on the field, He's always trying to improve. He's doing this not just with players, with other coaches. He just has this like way about him that is a driving force, and I think the players really respect that love of it.

02:58:02
Speaker 1: I did almost bring up the twenty seventeen everyone's broke down, the Carson Wentz and Nick Foles thing, and that's that's great. We'll probably get into a little bit about that. But more than anything, I need to know is it true.

02:58:14
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're talking about. Oh you know, you know twenty seventeen.

02:58:18
Speaker 3: Twenty hours twenty seventeen.

02:58:20
Speaker 1: Nick Foles.

02:58:21
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's definitely true. Really, yeah, yeah, and.

02:58:23
Speaker 1: You're the first, You're the first player to I'd just fully be like, yes, that is correct.

02:58:27
Speaker 2: No, Connor Barwin was was he?

02:58:30
Speaker 3: Connor?

02:58:31
Speaker 2: So this is a great story. Connor. Somehow it had started to get out there, and I don't know if it was somebody at barstool, but somebody asked Connor barwhen and he confirmed it and where. We just so happened to be at a golf outing like the next week and the whole offensive line is playing Nick came his dad came in, and we get done, and this whole thing had just hit the story, like the news waves and we're getting off the course and me and Connor rode together. So we hop in my truck and as we're like driving away from the course, next dad like waves us down and we pull up and lowered the window. He's like, hey, hey, Connor, I just want to thank you about saying all those.

02:59:11
Speaker 5: Nice things about my side.

02:59:14
Speaker 2: It was so Larry was was a gem right there. But yeah, no, he's uh. Most of the time when there's a uh, what's the uh the myths are are that prevalent, there's a there's some truth behind him for sure.

02:59:30
Speaker 1: That I mean, what a unique like satan Nick.

02:59:33
Speaker 2: Nick, And it couldn't happen to him like more hawks. It couldn't happened like a more humble just like great human being. Yeah with uh, what is it with great whatever comes great responsibility? Nick is that's.

02:59:47
Speaker 1: Great powers responsibility. I mean, yeah, good for him, Yeah, that's amazing.

02:59:58
Speaker 3: Friend of the show is he. I got to hang out with him for a day last year. So since we're boys, I'm thinking friend of the.

03:00:04
Speaker 1: Future, Friend of the Show Future friend of the show, friendly myself coming on. I guess it's going back for my brains.

03:00:10
Speaker 2: And he's a tremendous dude, a tremendous teammate, and he was a great player. I mean, obviously the Super Bowl fifty two, the game he had, I mean, Tom Brady had the best game of his career against US and lost solely because Nick like played his ass off. Yeah, he outshot the best quarterback in the history of the game in the biggest stage possible. And like, it's pretty fucking awesome. That on your belt.

03:00:33
Speaker 1: Something else that's really awesome. Lane Johnson obviously he's ninety nine this year. He's had a lot of peaks and valleys through his career, whether it was the ped thing or the anxiety thing that. But when I go to look at clips about Lane or just on my algorithm, I've seen him consistently talk about you from being somebody that he could lean on, like the relationship you guys have, he helped you through a lot of stuff. Like what was it like for you watching Lane go through that stuff? And what were some things you did to help him?

03:01:00
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I just just trying to be there for him. I mean, I don't. I'm not a especially like the mental stuff. I'm not like a mental health like expert. I don't know how to do it. But you just try and be a good teammate and be there for your buddy, and you know, laying to anybody that knows him has interacted with him like one of the most well intentioned human beings I've ever been around in my life. He is such a good dude and he operates that way continuously. And we were very young together when we both were there. I was in my third year, he was coming in as a rookie, and we were there for so long together in a lot of ways. You know, when all of the changes are happening throughout the building and you go through that much like struggle and adversity and pain with each other on both of our ends. You know, he saw me go through twenty sixteen and he's like, I don't know if Kelse is going to be back. And so I think we both saw a lot of that throughout our own careers and we both have persevered through it, and we did a lot of that together, and I think that that always brings people closer. Like the good times are great, but when you're going through the shit with people and they don't give up on you and they freaking ride with you. That's when real bonds are made. And Lane is about as close to a brother that I would ever say, and like, I mean, he's just like such a great dude, and like there, I don't know, there's many people on the planet that I trust more Lane Johnson.

03:02:25
Speaker 3: For your when it comes to leadership, when did it start? When did you start becoming like a vocal guy? Were you always that way? Because I feel like in more in the back half of your career, especially, you have the iconic Super Bowl parade when you're on the mic and then the camera find you when you're having tough moments in the season and you're giving the team a speech or talk about what the week's going to be like. Was that always something that that you had or was that something you once you felt and trusted. As I am the leader, I need to step up and say something.

03:02:57
Speaker 2: I think that it's it's both. I think that I've I think I've always had a knack for that, even in high school. I certainly got better at it as I went along. Like high school is like remember the Titan style, you know what I mean? Like that's and then as you get older, you have more like emotional awareness of things, and you start to think about it in a lot more sappy ways in some regards. But I think I think in the old line room, I had a lot of that earlier in my career. And then as you get older and you become a more better and guy, then you start getting afforded opportunities to talk to the team more right, like it's hard to you're not gonna go do that as like a six round pick, right, Like he's got to shut the fuck up, Like I got you. But I think you lead in a different way. When you're young, you lead by your example and your effort and your energy. And then as you get older and you get entrusted more with guys have seen you replicate success over and over again and they want to hear what you're saying. Then it's like, now let me freaking speak my mind on what I think. And that mostly the team stuff, and like talking more is like a like a vocal leader. I think probably happened after the twenty seventeen season because and part of its Super Bowl Parade speech. Probably, but I think also is like I had the best year of my career that year too, so I combined like had a really good season and then a good speech and then all of a sudden, now I'm doing like pregame speeches before we come out of the locker room, right and we talked about like retirement like that's kind of and I was great at those, and guys are get fired up, and then all of a sudden, like I mean, like year thirteen, I'm like, fuck, I gotta give this fucking speech right now.

03:04:30
Speaker 5: Like I'm trying to get like how do I get excited.

03:04:33
Speaker 2: To do this? And I'm looking up shit online. I'm like looking up wrestling promos and shit, like I got a fucking and it got to the point where like even just doing that would exhaust me to try and go play football. And like that's another thing where I was like, dude, I just don't think mentally I got this anymore. Like it's a steering on.

03:04:49
Speaker 1: He walks in, he's like a team keys and he's like, Jason, you have the four and he just walks away.

03:04:55
Speaker 2: Nick would do a really cool thing, especially back then, where he would give like a guy like a moment to talk in front of the team and multiple guys get those opportunities, and I think it was really good because he gave ownership to the guys right and we had done that as an offensive line even that twenty seventeen year, where in the like run meeting the day before the game, like the tight end running back, oh line where we'd go over like Blitt's pick up and run, and the last meeting right before the game. Stott would have one guy go up there each week and to be a new guy, and they would go up and talk and they could say whatever they wanted, and I like just loved it. You would hear some gold from like Jaya Ji to Lane Johnson to Jason Peters, like whoever went up there and talked. It would be the like specific to them. But it was, in my opinion, like it's just like a level of like creating ownership that I don't think really was there before that. And Brent Sally was the first guy to do it, and he kind of called that we were going to be a great team before anybody was really picking us to be. He's like, guys, I've been around in the league a long time. I've seen a lot of talent and do not waste this opportunity. We got a really good team, and I went his first year, He's like, I went to the NFC Championship game and we lost, and I just thought we'd be right back there the next year, and I haven't been back since. And it just like hit everybody real hard in the moment, and we just kept doing it after that. I don't know if they still do it, but it was I always loved those little hey, let's have And then it would be like the back, like the sixth man off, we're out of guy son, Like what's what's Matt Pryor going to say? Or what's this guy going to say? And you hear like a different frame of reference and perspective about what's happening from those guys, which is sometimes even better.

03:06:38
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you make it sound like it was. It not just football was also like their life.

03:06:42
Speaker 2: A lot of it ended up being it was different for different guys. Some guys are more open to like sharing like life experiences and stuff like that. Some guys just want to keep it pretty bare bones of football. But a lot of it was like you know, how they got there, what drives them, what motivates them, why they love football, like stuff like that to.

03:07:05
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, people are talking about there's a script. NFL has a script, and they've made a big joke out of it. For sure, it's awesome and everyone kind of like, yeah, it's not real. Scripts aren't real, But it's pretty interesting that you decided to start a podcast with your brother and both of you and and it what in your mind was like, you're getting towards the end of your career and obviously everyone's to think about what they're gonna do next. When it's kind of getting closer and closer, what made you decide on doing a podcast?

03:07:35
Speaker 13: Well, talk about lightning in a bottle where it's like if there's gonna be the conspiracy theorists, like the JFK people out in Dallas, like they're going to point to Jason and Trap and be like that's why the script exists, Like that is could not have pick.

03:07:50
Speaker 7: Is it?

03:07:51
Speaker 1: Goodell Main sponsored?

03:07:55
Speaker 2: So we uh yeah, I mean Travis is We had talked about doing a podcast, like doing some type of media thing together for a long time and Travis's team kind of approached us with the podcast idea and we were kind of like always nervous about it because I got you know what, if the season it isn't going well, then you're like out there you're talking uh and quite honest, I know Travis is giving you guys this sugar before, but like seeing you guys do it really well with busting, seeing Pat McAfee, seeing uh, Draymond Green, and like all these guys are having success and doing this part. I mean and Draymond year before it just wont an NBA.

03:08:29
Speaker 3: Titles in the playoffs and dropping.

03:08:32
Speaker 1: Like right after the game.

03:08:33
Speaker 2: So like, I think that there was like a a sense that hey, there's guys out here who are doing this, having success and it's not a detriment to the team, and in some ways it's working out better, right, So uh, we decided to kind of try it out and see how it went, and we hit lightning in a bottle. Yeah the first year. Luckily there wasn't a lot of bad to come on the podcast. Yeah.

03:08:58
Speaker 5: I mean that's what.

03:08:58
Speaker 2: It's fun when you're a player, like you're winning, it's a very fun thing to do.

03:09:02
Speaker 1: It's the exact opposite of how our started. Yeah, we started ours. I had a PD I was suspended for four games. We were two and four to start. Yeah, it was fucking terrible.

03:09:11
Speaker 3: I'm not even on a team.

03:09:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like I gotta do.

03:09:15
Speaker 2: It is hard when when you're two and four and like, you know, the fans want answers and you're trying to uh give them like legitimate answers, but also be respectful and like keep it like you know, not throw teammates under the bus and not give away information or anything like that. And it's, uh, it's a tight rope to walk. And I do think it was good. What year were you guys and when you guys started.

03:09:36
Speaker 3: Your nineteen was our first year?

03:09:38
Speaker 1: Eighteens when we met.

03:09:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're here. I started nineteen.

03:09:42
Speaker 2: So how many years did you guys had in at that point? Like six?

03:09:45
Speaker 3: Wait?

03:09:46
Speaker 2: Wait, wait years in the NFL.

03:09:48
Speaker 1: I was going into six. You were going to seven?

03:09:51
Speaker 3: Seven? Yeh yeah, six and seven.

03:09:53
Speaker 2: I worry. So I think that it's good to be a little bit more veteran to try and do it sometimes because I think you have a better understand ending of like everything that guys are going through in the NFL.

03:10:05
Speaker 3: And I think that and you have a better understanding of just the dynamic too. Even with whether it comes from the staff, your teammates.

03:10:12
Speaker 2: And people in the building trust you more than there's more like established relationship. But I don't know. I don't think I would have done a good job. If I would have been young trying to do that, I think I would have said something that would have pissed somebody off. I would have said something that would have pised the fans off, you know what I mean. I wouldn't have had the emotional awareness of like what to say, and I still don't. I still say stuff to pizze people off, but it would have been a much higher percentage if I were starting younger.

03:10:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd have been phones out of hands much.

03:10:43
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, that was That was a rough one. That was a rough one. That's why we got Dutch here now.

03:10:48
Speaker 3: Yeah he'll break every phone out professional but dude, Yeah, that that first year and you see you guys both ending up in the super Bowl. It was also a fucking awesome year for your parents.

03:11:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially especially mom. Mom got a lot of the noise, and deservedly so. She put up with a lot of shit from us for a long time. She became like a focal point for like I think moms everywhere and especially moms of like athletes, and yeah, that was what that was. One of the best parts about that season was the glow up of Dona Kelsey for sure. Yeah, she killed it. She got to make more cookies and I think she's probably ever made, which she enjoyed.

03:11:33
Speaker 1: How did she handle all that? All the eyes on her? Because you get the Super Bowls. I feel like you guys are in all the commercials. Yeah, I mean she's on you know, late night TV shows.

03:11:43
Speaker 2: She is so who she is at this point. I don't think it's gonna affect her as much. I mean, she's not like a media trained savvy individual, but you know, she's a good hearted woman from Cleveland, Ohio that loves her kids. And I don't know that any amount of commercial is going to change that.

03:12:02
Speaker 3: Amen, dude, I feel like it's it's one of those things too, like if I could put myself in the shoes of your parents, it's the haze in the barn for the most part, Like they're they're they're older, they don't care about what the world's thinking. They're just so proud, Like how cool would it be? You're like a You're just like a kid seeing your kids. You have two sons and they're playing in the Super Bowl, two of them arguably the best at their positions, and they've accomplished all this stuff and you're seeing all the success. It's like people, you'll reach out when you come on this you come on, it's more of just like you just get to take like victory less because you're so proud of your kids. I feel like that's what the feeling would be like. It has to be. Yeah, talk about talk about your parents. Give us a couple of things that you love about your mom and your dad. Now that you're older, you're wiser, you're sappier, you cry more because you have daughters.

03:12:48
Speaker 2: I've always been a crier even before the daughters, but I definitely get sappier. I think my uh I was always closer with my dad growing up. My dad coaches and everything, like went to all the games. Was like the prototypical just like outstanding father, and I looked up to my dad. I thought my dad was like the best man on the planet. That's who I wanted to be. Like. I got asked when I was really young, like what do you want to be when you grow up? Jason? I said, I want to be a father. Like that's like I wanted to be like my dad one hundred percent. And we get a lot of our mentality and a lot of like our traits as human beings. I think from my father and like he's a very driven, like tough you know, worked in the steel industry. Like he's just he's a great dad. And he was also a loving dad. You know, he would he was one of those dads that while he slapping you on your ass, you feel like he loves you still at the same time. But he was he was a great dude, and he like, that's who I wanted to be when I grow up. And I think, uh, my mom, I never really had the frame of reference to understand what she was doing for the family when I was younger, and I think I had always had a loving relationship and loved my mom to death, But she was working and making the majority of the money for the family. She was cleaning, she was like scheduling things out, she was handling all of like the finance, like all these things that like as a kid you don't really know where you take for granted. And I'm like, she was so much like a foundational aspect for the entire family. And I've told her that since, like I just never really even had a understanding of all these things you were doing. And so as a parent, I've gone now to more of like, Donna, Kelsey's a shit and still ed Kelsey's a shit too, But Donna was. She was a very unique woman to be able to handle all of these different.

03:14:40
Speaker 3: Things that fires me.

03:14:43
Speaker 1: Everything you said, Like, while you're saying those things, I'm like like in my head being like, I hope to God my kids talk about me like this, Yeah, because it's like everything you just said about your dad and your mom, It's like, yeah, you guys, as a family, it's like something you want to look up to and be like, that's that's what you want your kids to love you, to appreciate you, to respect you, all those things.

03:15:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, they worked their ass off. They stayed together as as they stayed married because of us, just to like raise us. I think in a lot of ways, they they set aside all their dreams, goals and aspirations to help us realize ours. And they did it without even questioning it. It felt like and I'm sure there were questions. I'm sure there were very hard discussions ever had, but we never felt that. We felt like there was just like an overwhelming abundance of like love and support and anything we wanted to try and do. And it was it was a storybook childhood for us. And that I don't take for granted one bit.

03:15:43
Speaker 3: That's really cool. Hey, and now like it's in the family. Your wife has a podcast.

03:15:48
Speaker 2: Now, she does, she does, she's crushing it. She is a thousand times better than we are and she's on our tail.

03:15:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the dynamic. Both of you guys podcasters have your own little bit business is going.

03:16:01
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's been a lot. I mean there's a lot more. You know, we're both have more going on now as like professionals. But I think Kylie went to school for journalism and communication. She had like she had a radio like show with one of her friends in college where it's like the Squirrel in the Tree and they would do that like every week. So she was much more ready to go than we were. Yeah, this is like, yeah, I know, I know how to do this right away. And she she had a firm understanding of what she wanted to do, the kind of contant she wanted to create who she wanted to talk to and the kind of conversation she wanted to have. And I think that has resonated really really well with a lot of people. And for me, I just I enjoy watching it. I enjoy seeing her have success with it. And now we just got to be more organized in our scheduling and making sure that we're communicating. Like that's a whole other thing because now we're both have stuff going on throughout the week and we have four kids, but we it's it's been a lot of fun navigating that. For sure.

03:17:02
Speaker 3: She's good at a growing the community, like talking to the talking to her community. I've like watched a couple of her shows just because not you know, no free shout outs for the dads. I have a dad podcast. We'll actually go into uh, I dive into some of Kylie's stuff just because I think she does. She does. She does a really good job speaking to the community and making everything sound relatable, just being like that working mom and corralling everybody. Think she does a really good job. And Kylie, I would love to have you on for the dads. By the way, let's go for Jason Kelsey. Let's go Wow, whichever camera I'm looking at here.

03:17:31
Speaker 2: Kylee is a better dad than me too.

03:17:36
Speaker 1: You have four kids, all girls, all girls. Now when you got to two girls, you're out there swinging for the fences, aren't you.

03:17:44
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a swing by the fence this kind of guy. I'm doing that form the get go. But yeah, it's uh.

03:17:48
Speaker 1: You trying to get that boy.

03:17:50
Speaker 2: We know, we knew. I mean, listen, if a boy happened, that would be fun. But I think at the end of the day, I say what my dad always said, I just want We're very blessed to have four healthy, like smart, charismatic, amazing children, and like I would not trade any of that for a second. And I think we wanted early on, we talked about I wanted three kids early on that was like I always felt like Travis and I always wanted like one more sibling. It felt like would have been ideal. And Kyle said, you wanted five. So we're at four now, and I think we'll see that might be it. We've been bringing up the V word more than ever, so we'll see if it happens.

03:18:31
Speaker 3: Getting the smug going down there, Yeah, snippy snippy, snip.

03:18:37
Speaker 1: Once you're done, it's like you don't want any hiccups.

03:18:39
Speaker 2: Oh no, once we're done, for sure, I'm definitely getting it done. I think we're still kind of in that Okay, are we done or we're figuring it out?

03:18:46
Speaker 3: Five girls?

03:18:46
Speaker 2: My goodness.

03:18:47
Speaker 3: Nothing like just getting bossed around by your little girl.

03:18:51
Speaker 1: Become the guy where it's like he's just gets.

03:18:55
Speaker 2: I'm getting weaker too. It's like it's like our two year old right now. Benny is just like the most charismad Like I don't know how like she came out like this, but like she like blinks and like gives you eyes and like she's like it's like cheating, you know what I mean, Like she can just look at me and get whatever she wants. And I was the dad when I first had my first girl where I'm like, I'm gonna raise my girl tough and I'm gonna make yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna be like it, uh you know, the pushover dad and like and completely.

03:19:23
Speaker 5: Did not hold up this man. This man I was so naive to.

03:19:27
Speaker 2: Like how uh mother nature works and like these girls like look at you just like one way and it's like come on, I'm going in the bed, let's go. Yeah, I think my two year olds been like every time she wakes up in the middle of the night, I just like pick her up, And half the time I want her to come in bed with me because I know that eventually she's going to be out of that stage where it's gonna be possible, and I selfishly want to hold on to that. But I did wake up before coming out here at six am, and I woke up and I look over to the bed to say good bye to Kai and my two year old and are infant are like in the bed, right they got like barriers in between them, but they're sitting where Kylie is. Yeah, I got Maybe Kyle went up. She's coaching field hockey right season right now. Maybe they're at practice and I get up further and she's curled up like a cat at the foot of the.

03:20:17
Speaker 9: Kids.

03:20:18
Speaker 2: That's right, Or we just gotta stye. I gotta I gotta be a freaking good dad and not bring the big kid into the bed. I gotta be. I gotta do better. I gotta do better.

03:20:28
Speaker 3: All these women in your life, man, you it seems like you're expanding and you're getting the.

03:20:31
Speaker 5: News and I had.

03:20:32
Speaker 2: I mean for the vast majority of my life, my mom was the only woman in my life. Like it was only me and Travis. We had no first cousins. I am aunt chaty, I'll take the back and chaty was definitely a staple for us. But I didn't even know how to like talk to girls growing up. I don't know how you guys were. I was not. I'm like you, bro, dude, I felt a shell up quick. We talked about like getting in your head, getting in your head on the field. I got in my head majorly, trying to get into the ball.

03:20:58
Speaker 1: It's like a whole different ball game.

03:21:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, not good. So I'm definitely catching up on getting to know and understand women and girls and females. I'm getting a lot of reps now.

03:21:10
Speaker 3: And now you're welcoming a new sister in law.

03:21:12
Speaker 2: That's right, that's pretty big new news, big news.

03:21:16
Speaker 3: What makes you so happy about that? Because I was watching obviously one of the most explosive podcast episodes of podcast history on New Heights. But as Taylor's talking about Travis, it's clipped everywhere. The Swifties love it, everybody loves it. It seems like you're getting emotional as she's talking about Travish what makes you so happy about all of this happening and Travis finding somebody that really makes him happy.

03:21:43
Speaker 2: Well, I think, first of all, I love my brother and I just want him to have like the most fulfilled best life possible. And such a huge part of that is, like you know who you end up marrying, who you end up raising a family with. I know the kind of person he is, and I've been blessed to get the no tailor over the last couple of years, and I just think that they match so well together. They are unbelievably supportive of each other and both of their outlandishly successful worlds. Yeah, and it's like you're listening to somebody describe your brother, and I think a lot of people, Uh, I don't know how I said, but you're hearing how like she fully understands why Travis is like incredible him being and like the human exclamation point was like the best way I've ever heard Travis described in my life. I think it's like such an accurate statement. The dude just brings joy and like every place he ever is and like people love him and he makes everything better. And I think that they both it's watch them, uh support each other, love each other and get to this stage and now to have this together. I'm just I mean, I'm very happy for him.

03:22:56
Speaker 3: Did we just hear a best man speecheek?

03:22:59
Speaker 2: I'm gonna gonna fire up something a lot better? Yeah, I got I gotta get this well. First of all, hopefully I'm the best man. We'll see Trav has a lot of friends. I'm just hoping to get that right.

03:23:10
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll be there, you're going right, Yeah, Yeah, it'll be.

03:23:19
Speaker 2: Fun A busting episode live from the stream.

03:23:23
Speaker 3: Was there ever a part of you as uh as Big Bro just seeing catching Kelsey the stuff with Trav, the party animal that he is, Like, is he ever gonna find somebody? No?

03:23:37
Speaker 2: Because I think when you I never lost like hope that would happen. I think he's just you know, I think you're young, you're having fun, You're you're figuring things out. I mean, like I said, I didn't even know how to talk to girls. So I was like in the NFL, and I still don't even know if I knew how to talk to girls. Was an NFL player, So yeah, a little more so it became a lot easier. I don't know if I ever got better. I probably still suck at it. Uh, But I think you know, at all times, I know my brother's intentions and who he is as a person and the values that my parents raised him with, and you know how he treats people, how he treats women, how he all of these things, and I eventually, I think it works out when you go through life with that, and not for everybody. I don't want to draw too many of that, but like, he lives his life the right way. He's a great person, He's unselfish. He everything he does I think would lead to him finding somebody that would want to be with him. Uh, for all the right reasons and more.

03:24:39
Speaker 1: Did you expect family? Did you?

03:24:46
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go, But like question, but like question, and.

03:24:49
Speaker 1: You know that anybody to do anything for an ice cold crisp bud light. What is something as and Kelsey would do anything for.

03:25:02
Speaker 2: I mean, that's cool beer. I'm not going to turn that down one bit. I got a very embarrassing story from last night about beer. Okay, all right, so I'm drinking beer. I'm not really hammering them. I'm just kind of putting you know, wanta back every you know, thirty minutes. So I'm just kind of enjoying beers.

03:25:20
Speaker 3: Last night.

03:25:22
Speaker 2: And about it. I think it was third quarter. I find out that I've been drinking non alcoholic beer.

03:25:33
Speaker 3: The entire game.

03:25:38
Speaker 5: It is the most a munt of shame I've ever felt in myself.

03:25:40
Speaker 8: Really.

03:25:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just like, the fuck is wrong with you?

03:25:43
Speaker 2: Jason?

03:25:43
Speaker 12: Who was the person that had just so you know Taylor because she said Travis had just been doing the same day. I'm like, time out, Travis, there's non alcoholic beer here. We had both been drinking these Budweiser zeros thinking they were just some like zero calorie Budweisers.

03:26:03
Speaker 2: Not think any choice. Yeah, I'm just like, I just wasted three quarters of my life. I just say it was.

03:26:13
Speaker 5: I was so ashamed. Anyways, So, uh, what was the question?

03:26:19
Speaker 1: What is something you would do anything for? You can't say family?

03:26:23
Speaker 2: What is anything I would do and not family? I would give?

03:26:32
Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't know.

03:26:33
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Do I in this hypothetical scenario or do I do? I am I currently in the state. I am like, do I get like you can go back if you if I go back in time. I would I would go back out on the field, and a heartbeat, I think that's I would give anything to be able to play football again. And I don't think I can do that anymore. But I'd like thoroughly miss being out there with the guys and playing the game. And I know that's a very not exciting answer, but I think that's the first thing that popped into my head. I mean, I I cherished the time out there with the guys, and again, like I I, when you're in it, you hate going through the grind of training camp and like the two we did two days in high school and college, but you know you hate those moments, but then when you're done, you like those are the ones that you kind of miss, Like I miss, you know, being my shoulder hurting and being bloody and like trying to fight through a practice, Like I miss my shoes squeaking with sweat out of them while I'm like walking across the field. Like it's weird, it's a I don't know, maybe I'm like a masochist and I don't even know it, but like.

03:27:40
Speaker 3: Hearing what an injury should do to you and thinking to myself, I'm going to fucking I take the serious challenge.

03:27:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna fucking go out there anyways and see if I can get it done.

03:27:49
Speaker 3: And they're saying six weeks. I'm gon show how I'll be back in three.

03:27:52
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did that at the sports Turney. It was really stupid.

03:27:56
Speaker 1: How about how at the feeling it after like the longest morning practice and you us get done. You're back in the locker room. Your shoes aren't even off yet, but you know like this is the longest time you'll have till the next practice, and that wait, just being.

03:28:06
Speaker 3: Ultim off your shoulders.

03:28:07
Speaker 1: Yes, and everyone gets that hour and a half kind of groop off and fuck around.

03:28:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is we're.

03:28:14
Speaker 3: Just having fun with the boys of the potential rumor that are we not going to have a walk through in the afternoon. Are we hearing about a movie?

03:28:21
Speaker 2: Yes?

03:28:22
Speaker 3: Is he gonna let us go home?

03:28:23
Speaker 2: Are going to a water park?

03:28:24
Speaker 3: Yeah?

03:28:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard.

03:28:27
Speaker 5: They got buses outside.

03:28:28
Speaker 3: I saw every year, like the.

03:28:31
Speaker 1: Second week of camp, I would go and like whisper like a rookie and be like, hey, you know last year we did this Around this time, I'm hearing rumors that there's a movie day. We're getting practice, and I would lay that one thing there. By the time we started practice, fifteen other guys are called.

03:28:48
Speaker 3: There's a movie in today, and I'm like, oh, no, shit, really, well.

03:28:50
Speaker 2: That's a bad move too, because there were guys that would the Connor Barr would do something very similar and you would get that little rumor started. And I don't even know if the coaches wanted to do it. But then the rumors you get start and they're like, now we don't have a movie day. It's gonna be upsetting the guys. Yeah, I think we're gonna have a movie day and we have a.

03:29:05
Speaker 3: Movie day, and I don't think of that would be in there was hate to brush your fucking bubble practice.

03:29:18
Speaker 1: So he brought us up when we're swirling. He brought us up before and he's like, I heard a lot of stuff about movies. I don't know who, who the fuck told you guys that we're not doing a movie day. We'll get to work. Actually put the ball down. Yeah, yeah, dude, we appreciate you coming on.

03:29:35
Speaker 2: Thanks.

03:29:37
Speaker 1: Yes, I've been a long time coming, has been long has coming. Now there will be one more Beer Olympics.

03:29:43
Speaker 2: There technically has to be okay, one more beer Olympics, one more Where when is it? Is it always scheduled during the same time I'm doing mine? Or are we doing? Oh? Yes?

03:29:51
Speaker 1: Should we collab?

03:29:53
Speaker 2: So mine is our event down the shore? That week is always the week before July fourth, So it is always going to be what ever, because we get the bar that we do our thing at the Wednesday before July fourth week for the way that their whole season schedules. So I think that's like June twenty fifth or fourth or something like that this year. So as long as it doesn't interfere with that week, I would love to be a part of it.

03:30:14
Speaker 3: It might be worth to figure something out. My brain's working right now.

03:30:18
Speaker 2: Do you guys want we want to team up and just do it? That makes sense.

03:30:20
Speaker 1: I thought about that, Yeah, instead of just trying to make two different just one days work.

03:30:25
Speaker 2: I know there's there's guys open to doing it down the shore and doing some stuff for charity for EUS autism.

03:30:30
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I know you that's like part of our Yeah you got ch charity guy, But I'll talk about he's always like I was thinking, like, I know there's a charity aspective, but I'm sure there's something that we could figure out.

03:30:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.

03:30:47
Speaker 1: Really, we just do it the back yard. Yeah, and it's like, yeah, I guess we could just do a charity thing. We could probably make it more better the world.

03:30:55
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's stuff that we could do. But yeah, I feel like this is it's sitting right in front of us, boys. Yeah, like, at the end of the day, we want to enjoy some cold beers and have some fun, have.

03:31:03
Speaker 2: Some fun, settle, you know, chug a couple after what else would you rather do? What was the question? What else would you rather have than ice, cold crisp? But I.

03:31:17
Speaker 3: Thank you for coming, Yeah, thank you.

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