Last Night's Debate was an airing of the grievences

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Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon on the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wings in Culver City.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a real strange summer. The state of California apparently only has six weeks left of reliable oil supply before we get into shortage territory.

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Speaker 3: Uh oh, and I don't think this war is ending anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is jellphone number one. Eight hundred two two two five two two two. Let's go back to the sound from last night scubatorial debate.

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Speaker 2: We have so many different topics here, Johnny. We've got why should Dems deserve another four years? Gas prices, the billionaire tax, immigration, working with Trump, healthcare, housing, Bianco, going after Hilton saying one word to describe Gavin Ai, climate fraud, the high speed rail, and Hollywood tech credits.

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Speaker 3: Where do you want to go? Let's start with immigration.

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Speaker 2: All right, this is where I got real ugly for pretty much everyone on the stage.

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Speaker 4: I want to turn to another critical issue, not just in California, but also in the entire nation, which is immigration. As all of you know, mister Hilton, right now, President Trump is enacting a policy of mass deportation. As you know, roughly half of California, California farm workers, which are in a central part of this state's economy, are undocumented. As governor, would you push to deport them.

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Speaker 5: So I'm the only immigrant on stage, I'm a legal immigrant, and Americans support immigration when it is properly controlled. And what we saw under the Biden administration open borders, undermined everybody's support for immigration. And as governor, I've made it very clear, although it is the federal government's responsibility to determine and implement immigration policy, I think it's important that all the laws are peacefully enforced, and as governor, I would make sure that we work with the federal government to enforce our laws.

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Speaker 3: Don't expect.

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Speaker 2: Any of these debates is Tony's last debate ever, so he's got to do whatever he can.

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Speaker 3: He was aggressive last night. Again, this is it for him.

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Speaker 2: There is no other campaign, and I don't know if he's even invited to the debate tonight on NBC. That's right, there's another one.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's strange to me is that he was trying to bill himself as the moderate Democrat, as the Democrat that Republicans could feel comfortable voting for who had governed as a sane person and fix.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these problems.

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Speaker 1: It looked like to me last night that he recalibrated and he was now presenting himself as a partisan warrior.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you have to recalibrate because the product that he was selling nobody he was buying.

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Speaker 1: No, and he and Matt Mayhan are selling a very similar product, and both of them are stuck in single digits.

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Speaker 4: Do you support deporting those undocumented farm workers?

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Speaker 5: The policy on deportation is the exact same policy that we saw with President Obama. In fact, the numbers of deportations right now in our country and in California a slightly.

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Speaker 3: Lower answer the question.

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Speaker 5: I answered the question, which is I will work?

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Speaker 3: Will you deport them?

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Speaker 1: The governor is not in charge of federal policy. The governor is not in charge of immigration policy. If the question is will you work with the Feds off someone's here illegally, the answer was yes.

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Speaker 5: That was the question, Well would you, Antonio, Because the governor of California, as you know, doesn't make that decision. It is the president of the United States, elected by the country, So oppose them.

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Speaker 6: Six of the people here don't even know who deports anyone. They just want emotions to rule the day. So you support them.

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Speaker 2: Is Chad bieco ever happy? He seems like he's pissed off all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: When you are in one of these, on one of these panels where it's a lopsided panel, and again I used to work over at CNN, so I was the one in very and many five on one panels, you can't be angry. You can't come off of someone who looks like they rather be someplace else. It's not a good look. Even though the deck is stacked against you, and even though the other side is going to get a lot more time than your side because you're the only one who's there to make the arguments, you still have to be the happy warrior. And I felt like last night, in the debate before that, in particular, he had a hard time doing that.

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Speaker 6: So you support them because they don't even know what the governor Cannon can't do, or if they do, they're lying to you.

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Speaker 4: Congresswoman Porter, I can't.

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Speaker 7: Believe that on a stage with thirty minutes of interrupting and bickering and name calling and shouting and disrespect for everyone up here who's stepping into public service. That anyone wants to talk about my temperament.

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Speaker 3: You were actually interrupting.

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Speaker 2: That was Alex by the way, boy, that was totally out of the blue. By the way, the topic was immigration, and she talks about being a hotthead well, every single candidate had some stupid line that they wrote down that they were going to find a way to insert, no matter what was the topic. That includes Steve Hilton with everything is higher with Styre.

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Speaker 3: You're better than that, Steve.

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Speaker 6: You were actually interrupting them too. I don't know why you want to act like you weren't.

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Speaker 7: Oh, cowboys, even.

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Speaker 3: I don't call anybody names. Shut up, cowboy.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and this is what I don't know, because as a Republican I am certainly not the type of person that she is tailoring her message for. But on stage last night she was an angry, bossy scold and maybe Democrats like that, I don't know. I mean, she certainly was able to get elected in her district in Orange County several times presenting herself as that way.

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Speaker 3: I think her.

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Speaker 1: Message essentially appeals to angry Democratic women. I can't imagine besides the Podsave America guy, I can't imagine even Democratic men responding well to this well.

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Speaker 2: And what was his biggest criticism of the last debate was that she wasn't being the real Katie Porter that we all know though, and fear she was being nice Katie Porter because she wanted to be able to say, look, I could take Julie Watts's hard questions.

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Speaker 3: So I think she needed to pivot as well.

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Speaker 2: The polling has come out in that Democratic Party, you should all drop out, Paul. She in the last three weeks has gone down two points in that poll. So the product that she was selling people are not buying. So she had to pivot.

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Speaker 1: So I guess maybe she could rebrand his mommy Dearest and just run with it.

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Speaker 6: Steve and I sat here smiling at each other because we're just watching you all prove to everyone why they can't vote for a Democrat exactly.

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Speaker 3: I'll answer the question.

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Speaker 4: The congressman Porter. First off, do you want to respond to that from Sheriff Bianco?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I did not interrupt, I did not go back and forth.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple of times you interrupted beforehand. I love that. Her answer is, I am a lady.

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Speaker 7: Like mister Bianco. You've been very well behaved tonight, especially to CBS, and I actually appreciate it that you've been waiting your turn and following the rules. And I would appreciate it if everybody could do that, because I think Californians are actually owed some answers to questions.

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Speaker 3: We were told we can.

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Speaker 2: Oh, nobody's getting any real answers here. This is a scrum, and y'all know it.

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Speaker 1: So even last night she was kind of schizophrenic. She was the get out of my f and shot lady, but she was also on the adult LA room and I'm above all of this.

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Speaker 3: Out of my shot.

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Speaker 2: That's the real Katie. But because that blew up on her, she doesn't really know who to be. It's very complicated, no, and she changes from question to question.

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Speaker 7: Questions.

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Speaker 3: We were told we can interject.

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Speaker 4: Congressoman Porter on the question itself. On these farm workers, which are a big part of of California's car.

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Speaker 3: We're the farm workers. We're having a.

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Speaker 4: Fight California's economy. What's your answer to that? Mister Hilton is saying it's the decision of the federal government.

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Speaker 7: It's the job of the governor to protect every single Californian period.

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Speaker 3: There are not citizens, period.

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Speaker 7: There are no qualifications on that. Are you doing that?

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Speaker 6: Are you doing that by having a sanctuary state policy? Absolutely not. And I was on the stage telling everyone what was going to do. I will like to get from sanctuary state complete. And it's forcing forcing you.

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Speaker 2: These guys are talking back at each other like they're in a lay Miz song.

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Speaker 3: For to be less safe?

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Speaker 7: May I give an answer?

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Speaker 2: So she's also trying to play the victim. You gotta do whatever you can. I'm telling you, these people are being twisted into every kind of position possible because the time is running out. People can vote now, there's only a few more of these debates, and the product that they've been selling has not been working out.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is also an argument as to why we should just go back to close primaries, because if you had a stage that had Hilton and Bianco on it, and you had a different stage on a different night that had Porter and Mayhan and Steyer and Baccarrhea and Via Ragosa and Thurman on it, it would be very different, and I think you would probably get more out of it. But you have various factions going after different factions at all points of time during these debates, and it's just kind of hard to follow because you have Democrat on Democrat, you have Republican on Democrat, you have Republican on Republican, and it just makes it hard to follow. And I think it would just be a lot cleaner if we went back to closed primaries where the discussions were easier to keep track of.

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Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a lot of support in the legislature to do away with this top two system.

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Speaker 7: It's the job of the California governor to protect every single Californian. The sanctuary state policy is designed to make sure that our state resources, the taxpayer dollars, the public servants that we have are focusing on doing their jobs, which is not cooperating with the federal immigration authorities. These are Californians, they contribute to our economy, they pay taxes, and they're one of the only ways that our state has been growing in recent years.

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Speaker 3: What about AI, That's the way the state's been growing.

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Speaker 1: By the way, wasn't there just a story that came out that we lost population.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Mayor via Garrosa Rugosa, close enough.

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Speaker 3: It's not even a real name. You know, you say you're a srif that hey.

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Speaker 2: When you get divorced, shouldn't you have to give the half of the name back?

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Speaker 3: You think so, along with the lawn furniture.

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Speaker 8: You know, you say you're a sheriff, and I know you are, but you clearly don't know what the sanctuary law does. I'm the only one up here that has to work with it, Sir Bianco, excuse me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the guy who didn't pass the bar, I don't know if he should be lecturing a sheriff on the law.

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Speaker 8: The fact is, since twenty nineteen, the state has turned over twelve thousand violent criminals to the federal government. Sanctuary law does not protect violent criminals in the way that you constantly say they do.

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Speaker 1: What about Kate Stinley and San Francisco? How did that work?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yes it does.

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Speaker 8: We've turned over this state has turned over twelve thousand criminals. I'll tell you what I think is illegal is a sheriff of Riverside County sequestering. It's because you're buying the votes and the way that you did, because you're lying to the court said that you know they've done it in the first place.

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Speaker 7: No, they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Injected on this, Kaitlin.

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Speaker 2: Can I go, by Sarah? Why are you even trying to interject? The less time you speak, the better you're off.

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Speaker 3: Just stand there and smile.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, the strategy for anyone that's pulling well in this is say the least amount of words.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you're Hilton and Baker Rhea, all you want to do is just get out of that event without saying something stupid.

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Speaker 3: No, they've done it in the first place. No, they didn't injected on this, Kaitlin.

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Speaker 4: Can I go, good, mister secretary Ofsara.

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Speaker 2: Tom, nobody's paying attention to you. Your money doesn't work on this debate stage. So I'm the only one I'll tell you that I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: The disconnect between his ads and his performance on these debates is huge. He would be much better off if there was just one or two debates and that's it. Having the debates every single week is really bad for someone like Tom Steyer.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's it going to be like tonight where you have two debates in a row. They went last night, and they're going tonight at the Skirball Center.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they're doing too many.

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Speaker 2: At this point? Yes, I mean we enjoy it. It's good content for us. But I mean, I don't know who's making up their mind based on anything that's coming out in these debates. I think two is probably enough. There's another one next week back on CBS.

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Speaker 9: So I'm the only one who actually has experience taken on Trump in the way he's handling undocumented immigrants because when he was president the first time, I was the Attorney general, and we took him on straight on in court. We stopped him from trying to force local law enforcement to do the bidding of ice. We were able to make sure we protected the DOCA program for our dreamers all the way to the Supreme Court, and we beat Donald Trump. What we have to do is make sure that Trump cannot invade California. And you can't stop him if you've got a governor like Steve Hilton, who is his dad, Donald Trump's his daddy.

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Speaker 3: That does not work, dude.

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Speaker 2: No, he even screwed up his own delivery of the line that he thinks is so funny.

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Speaker 9: Like Steve Hilton, who is his dad? Donald Trump's his daddy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there are professional actors and professional comedians and people who do this for a living, and they know how to memorize lines and they know how to deliver lines. I think part of the reason that they have so many scripted lines was because of that debate between Walter Mondale and Ronald Reagan where Ronald Reagan talked about his age, where he said he's not going to use his opponent's youth and inexperience against him, and it turned into a huge moment in that debate. Well, Ronald Reagan, in addition being a politician, was an accomplished actor himself. He knew how to deliver the line. These people have lines written for them by people who are not Hollywood writers, and they're being given to people who are not Hollywood actors. And you have people who aren't particularly good at writing snippy lines, and you have people who are really bad at delivering them, and then instead of having them come out in some kind of organic way or made to look organic at least, they're all so forced and it comes off so bad.

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Speaker 9: If you've got a governor like Steve Hilton, who is his dad. Donald Trump's his daddy.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if there are just one thing I could ask for the rest of this campaign, as we've got less than thirty days to go, I hope I never ever ever have to hear Javier Basera say the word daddy, because I'm just imagining leather cuffs.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's what Katie Border was watching and he would protect them all the way through.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Secretary of Bara. Mister Hilton Aulogy responded to that, and I have a question for you, mister Shyra after that.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to respond to silly name calling, but I'd like to actually respond to something Katie said.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's probably a sincere policy difference between us.

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Speaker 5: She said something very revealing, which is the only way really that California's economy has been growing in the last few years is through illegal immigration, and I just don't think that's the right way for us to be growing. I think we need to help small businesses create jobs and opportunity, and for Californians to be able to earn more and live the California dream, and for entrepreneurs to want to start businesses in California.

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Speaker 2: See Hilton's strategy in this debate was, Okay, Bianco's gonna do all red meat all the time. I'm going to be like pork the other white meat.

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Speaker 5: That's how we should be growing our economy, not by illegal immigration.

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Speaker 7: Congress From and Porter, I mean, given that you're an immigrant and you added to our legal emission, and we're all having to live with the consequences of that decision.

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Speaker 3: Okay, who wrote that.

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Speaker 1: They think it makes her sound funny. It doesn't make her sound funny. It makes her sound like an ex wife.

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Speaker 7: You can smell it right here.

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Speaker 2: This, of all the awkward, weird lines that their staffers wrote for them, making fun of Hilton because he's an immigrant is strange.

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Speaker 7: Congressmom and Porter, I mean, given that you're an immigrant and you added to our legal emission, and we're all having to live with the consequences of that decision.

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Speaker 2: No laughs, Nope, I mean I don't think there was a studio audience, but still no laughs.

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Speaker 3: You scrub it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go back to last night's debate and hear what the candidates had to say about high speed rail.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, I think Antonio Viragosa starts off this round.

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Speaker 10: Or, Mayor Via Goos, this next question is for you. In two thousand and eight, California voters voted for a high speed rail system from LA to San Francisco that was supposed.

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Speaker 3: To be done.

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Speaker 1: I was twenty three, and we should have been writing on this thing for how many years by now six?

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Speaker 10: From LA to San Francisco that was supposed to be done by twenty twenty and cost around thirty billion dollars. It's now twenty twenty six, it's not even close to being done, and the estimated cost has ballooned to two hundred thirty billion dollars. Mayor, your opponent, Steve Hilton says that on his first day in office, he would kill this project. Quote stone dead, would you? No?

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Speaker 2: He noticed that, and we know Alex likes to do this. He set up all of his debate questions and a stir the pot fashion.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you're not only answering the question, you're telling someone else on stage that they're an idiot.

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Speaker 3: Alex did a great job last night.

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Speaker 8: No, and let me just first speak about waste and fraud. I can acknowledge that there has been waste.

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Speaker 2: You know what I wish as soon as you get asked the question, if you go off topic, we turn off your mic.

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Speaker 1: This is yet another example as to how Antonio Viragoso, who was trying to sell himself as a moderate, is falling flat. Any moderate Democrat would look at high speed rail and say this is a boondoggle, this is a failure. Time to cut bait.

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Speaker 3: But for whatever.

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Speaker 1: Reason, he likes to frame himself as a moderate, but then take the position that everyone else is taking.

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Speaker 8: Let me just first speak about waste and fraud. I acknowledge that there has been wasting fraud in the state. There was two hundred and fifty million in just one hospice facility. We spent twenty four billion.

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Speaker 3: Dollars in van eyes in one building.

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Speaker 8: We spent twenty four billion dollars on homelessness, and homelessness went up. Why would I support continue to support high speed real because when the subway to the sea was dead and I became mayor, I said I was going to bring in the best and the brightest from around the world. We did, and then I got the federal government to approve it, and that subway is going to get built.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna He was mayor how many years ago. He stopped being mayor in twenty thirteen, and.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about a project that is still not completed in twenty twenty six, and he's taking credit for it because he said it's going to be completed someday.

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Speaker 2: We did build the light rail to the sea, but that just imported all the bumps from downtown LA to downtown Santa Monica.

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Speaker 8: We've had incompetence, maybe fraud, but for sure we've made mistakes with respect to this. As governor, I will do what I did as mayor, build more transportation than anybody in the United States of America.

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Speaker 5: Mister Hilton, so high speed rail is an example of the fraud. They've spent billions of dollars. I don't know where the money's gone. It certainly hasn't gone into building anything actually works. And I just want to make one broader point about fraud. I'm actually running this race in a different way than we've seen before. I've put together a team to run with me for there are other statewide offices, and along with my running mate for State Controller, Herb Morgan, and Michael Gates for Attorney General and Gloria Romeiro for Lieutenant Governor.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Glory got a shout out. I'm going to see her tonight.

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Speaker 5: We've actually been investigating the fraud. Our survey so far suggests that there in the last five years in California, we've had four hundred and twenty five billion dollars of FRU. That's around eighty billion a year, around twenty percent of the budget. And our team is going to stop it and prosecute it and give money.

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Speaker 11: I could just chime in on this real Hey.

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Speaker 3: Matt Mahon's here, I forgot all about him.

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Speaker 1: How can anyone at this point defend that project unless you're employed by the agency or you have property that you sold to the State of California for a king's ransom? Who has benefited from this project? Do you remember early on in the campaign Katie Porter went out and said, yeah, this project doesn't make any sense, and the Unions came after her heart and she changed course. She flip flopped, which is what all the Democrats are doing. Because the unions loved the project. If this project goes on forever, they're happy because those are jobs, and those are union dues that are going to those particular unions. But if if there's no public benefit, why should we continue with the project. We could hire these people to dig ditches and then fill them back up again, fill up the holes.

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Speaker 3: Real quickly there.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, first of all, election denials certainly is running a campaign in a different way. But look on high speed rail.

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Speaker 7: It shouldn't cost us.

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Speaker 11: More to get to Medesto than it's cost us to get to the moon.

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Speaker 3: And it's who wrote that one for you, Matt boy. This is just like open mic night at the local pizzeria.

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Speaker 2: They didn't do this at the debate last week, but every single candidate, I don't think Bianco did, but every single candidate besides him had some zinger in their pocket and they were all terrible.

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Speaker 1: And they paid these strategists of fortune to come up with this sort of thing for them.

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Speaker 11: It shouldn't cost us more to get to Medesto than it's cost us to get to the moon. And it's not either or. The answer is accountability. We are spending.

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Speaker 2: It's our favorite word, accountability, accountability, accountability.

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Speaker 7: Accountability, accountability, accountability.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's calling a race horse.

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Speaker 11: We are spending billions of dollars before we ever put a shovel on the ground, paying consultants and lawyers for endless bureaucracy. As governor, I will demand fundamental reform of SEQUA, of all of the rules.

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Speaker 2: Wait, Gavin's already reformed SEQUA fifty times. Then it really hasn't moved the needle. So at what point do we say, got to kill this thing.

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Speaker 1: You got to kill SEQUA and you got to kill the Coastal Commission. Those two entities right there are two of the biggest roadblocks to any kind of same policy regarding housing in the state of California.

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Speaker 3: Both of them have to go.

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Speaker 11: All of the rules, the environmental laws, the litigation around these projects so that we get to building faster. It goes back to your climate point as well. We can't modernize our grid if we can't build.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: Is like we're moving on, buddy, I got to ask the question about what actor would you like to play you in the movie?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to fraud. Because fraud was referenced by Steve Hilton. It was referenced by others in that last clip. Let's hear what they have to say about that.

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Speaker 4: Congressom and Porter, I want to ask you about something that is a huge conversation in Washington. You've mentioned your whiteboard use that you were famous for when you served in Congress. A recent poll found that fifty six percent of likely California primary voters think the next governor should make investigating fraud in government programs a high priority. The second the president has named Vice President Jade Vance is the nation's frauds are as. You know, he brings up California a lot, and it has made clear that he has set his sights on California. Do you believe that's a good thing?

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Speaker 7: So we should all care where our tax dollars go, whether we're paying you know, a low rate like Tom compared to the rest of us.

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Speaker 3: Or any chance can get to go after Styre. I love how passive aggressive she is.

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Speaker 2: Well, we all saw her in that Instagram video where she started talking about Tom Steyer and his money, and we saw what she did to those poor innocent little carrots.

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Speaker 7: Sorry for the noise, I'm cutting carrots.

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Speaker 3: She looked like a moil or a rate that's higher.

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Speaker 7: We all should want our tax dollars to go to work. I think Tom wants even his thirteen percent compared to our twenty percent to go to work. So fraud is real. It happens government waste, mismanagement, failure to have audits, failure to implement government recommendations. That's why I chose to serve on the Oversight committee and hold Democratic leadership and Republican leadership Trump and Biden to account for those programs. But there's nothing special about Californians. That is political theater coming from JD. Vance. Fraud occurs because government leaders don't know.

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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa how about ed where? That was the biggest theft of funds in the history of the United States, and California was the victim.

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Speaker 7: Fraud occurs because government leaders don't take to think hard and design programs clearly to guard against fraud. It happens on both sides of the aisle, and it's going to take somebody who has a track record of protecting consumers and doing government oversight in order to change.

00:29:28
Speaker 4: Thank you, Congressoman Sheriff Bianco on the program itself. And investigating fraud, and she's saying that it's political theater that is coming from the federal government.

00:29:40
Speaker 3: Did he not know what the question was? Was she mixing it up?

00:29:45
Speaker 1: Sometimes when they go to a different candidate, they change it up a bit.

00:29:49
Speaker 6: It's only political theater if the fraud is happening, and it happened on our watch. And so the Democrats in California don't want anybody to believe that there's out in California. But yet our own state government has said that we are one of the most wasteful state governments in the entire country. The waste fraud, in the abuse in California government is the worst in the entire country. That comes from our own state government. If we are not going to root out the waste, fraud and abuse all of their pie in the sky policies, they certainly are not going to pay for them unless they tax you more, which is that's all we're hearing from them. Is what you started in the very beginning about how bad California is, and we aren't talking about the policies that are going to fix it, because it's their policies that broke it. We've talked about them arguing about mister Bisera and about Trump ruining everything. But the reality is it is Democrat policies in California that have failed us. In every question you've asked, thank you, we haven't answered.

00:30:46
Speaker 1: And that's an excellent answer because the state auditor does an excellent job in California. The state Auditor puts out a list every single year of suspected waste fraud abuse. And the problem problem that we have here is that the legislature and the electeds don't do anything with it. It's not like this information is hidden. This information is there if you want to do something with it. The problem is the lack of will to do anything about it, because then you have to take on some sacred cows, because you have to ask yourself who's doing the stealing and if the people doing the stealing are the wrong people.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: Well, you don't want any friendly fire, now, do you. That's the latest on that question. We got lots more of this debate coming up, Johnny, All.

00:31:39
Speaker 1: Right, let's go back to the sound of last night's debate and listen to Javier Bakaria talk about everyone taking aim and him on the stage.

00:31:49
Speaker 4: I do have to go back to Secretary of Sarah since I did promise you that I would let you respond to that. Since Congressman and Porter invoked your name a few moments ago she was talking about your leadership, would you like to respond to her.

00:31:59
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think everyone's evoking my name. It's nice to hear my name quite a bit in there. At least pronounce it.

00:32:03
Speaker 7: It shouldn't be.

00:32:05
Speaker 2: Wait, is that a shot at Biden. I think it might be.

00:32:12
Speaker 10: After the debate for Secretary of Health and Education is over, I nominated Hobbyer Bakaria.

00:32:18
Speaker 3: Oka my name.

00:32:19
Speaker 9: It's nice to hear my name quite a bit in there.

00:32:20
Speaker 3: At least pronounce it.

00:32:21
Speaker 7: It shouldn't be.

00:32:22
Speaker 9: I will tell you this. Distorting the facts in your quest to be governor is never good, but using Trump lies to try to damage your opponents is worse. And that's what we see happening. Everyone knows that Trump campaigned in twenty twenty four talking about lost kids when there were no such thing as lost kids. To hear these candidates now talk about that. If they're so concerned, why haven't they taken any action to find these lost kids?

00:32:56
Speaker 3: That's an interesting take.

00:32:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie Porter, how come you haven't found these kids.

00:33:05
Speaker 9: I think it's shameful for people to use Trump lies to try to gain favor with voters when you know it's not true. Use the facts. We should have a governor who relies on the facts. I will speak the facts when I'm governor because that's what the California voters deserve.

00:33:19
Speaker 10: I feel like check staying on the top.

00:33:22
Speaker 8: It was a New York Times Pulitzer Prize within the investigation and read the article Donald Trump.

00:33:28
Speaker 11: The art.

00:33:32
Speaker 7: We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna move on.

00:33:34
Speaker 10: We're gonna move on now, Sir, be accountable.

00:33:39
Speaker 3: I love that he's screaming off Mike.

00:33:43
Speaker 2: This is Antonio's last hurrah. After this month, you'll never hear from him again.

00:33:54
Speaker 1: Then they went on to get asked the question, can you describe Gavin news in one word?

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Speaker 10: All right, we're going to move on on the topic of leadership. I want to talk about California Governor Gavin Newsom, who's about to leave office after eight consequentials and at times controversial years. To all of you, what is one word you would use to describe Governor Newsom's performance as governor. We will go down the line, starting with you, Mayor via Ragosa. One word to describe Governor Newsom's performance as governor.

00:34:32
Speaker 3: Performative. Accurate is not wrong.

00:34:36
Speaker 1: That's actually a very good word to use to describe Gavin Newsom, because Gavin Newsom is all about these big, grandiose proclamations with zero follow throw bold.

00:34:48
Speaker 3: Mmmm sure about that?

00:34:50
Speaker 1: Why does she keep trying to kiss his ass? He is not going to endorse her progressive.

00:34:59
Speaker 3: Failed Steve failure.

00:35:03
Speaker 7: You can't take my word.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: Game changing.

00:35:08
Speaker 11: Incomplete.

00:35:12
Speaker 1: You notice he's another one who is recalibrated, and he's now holding his punches. He's letting you know that he understands that the state is screwed up. But he's not as bold as he used to be in calling it out because he has minimal support among Democrats.

00:35:29
Speaker 2: Well, and you're talking about a primary. Primary voters are partisan and primary people, the California voters, they are still kind of like Gavin. I don't get it, but he is very popular right now in his own party.

00:35:47
Speaker 1: I guess it's because he goes after Trump on Twitter all the time, but it certainly can't be for his performance in California. But the Democrats who live here that I know don't regard that as political. They separate state and local issues from hating on Donald Trump, and they act as if state and local issues aren't political at all. They just complain about it and they're upset about it, but it doesn't impact their vote at all. Why they're so tolerant of poor government, I don't know, but they are. And that's a big problem for Matt mahon and Antonio Viragoso