Wonder Woman Game has Been Rebooted

<v Speaker 1>You got to get there. It's the internet. You're busy.
<v Speaker 2>Let's do this for February seventh, twenty twenty five. For
<v Speaker 2>the next hour or so, let me help you sort
<v Speaker 2>through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live
<v Speaker 2>with me Jeff Grubb. Today, Grand Theft Auto six is
<v Speaker 2>still coming out this year, rock Steady is back working
<v Speaker 2>on single player Batman and the Wonder Woman game is
<v Speaker 2>in turmoil. But first please join me and welcoming today's
<v Speaker 2>co host a Game Mess Mornings.
<v Speaker 1>It's tomorrow. Who's saying, everybody, Tam, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 3>Man? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>There he is. He's a bat you're wearing You're wearing
<v Speaker 1>a gain garment.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm wearing again garment. I've been wearing this a lot,
<v Speaker 3>to the point where I definitely should have watched it
<v Speaker 3>at least two days ago. Still wearing it. But like
<v Speaker 3>I I'm just like two comfy. It's too cold. I
<v Speaker 3>don't smell. I very rare. I sweat a lot, but
<v Speaker 3>my sweat doesn't smell, which is very weird.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's I've never I've never never
<v Speaker 2>been my around Tim thought this man smells in any
<v Speaker 2>negative way.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like a crazy person, but it's been true. It's
<v Speaker 2>always been true.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know how I've got away
<v Speaker 3>with this, but people have told me this, Like I've
<v Speaker 3>come back from the gym sweating and They're like, how
<v Speaker 3>are you not stinky? And I have no idea, Man,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. So I'm I'm comfortable with wearing this
<v Speaker 3>for I know at least six days.
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's and there's like a chart, right, and
<v Speaker 2>it's the more comfortable the garment, the less frequently you
<v Speaker 2>need to wash it come on like.
<v Speaker 3>I did wash So this is always supposed to be oversized.
<v Speaker 3>I washed it one time and it shrank and I
<v Speaker 3>was like, never again, I'm not sure scared again this
<v Speaker 3>is going to be stinky.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have the other stuff that I like that, like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>one time I went through the washer and I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>it is the print on it fading a little bit already.
<v Speaker 2>And then I get I get paranoid. I don't worry
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and so yeah, it kind of defeats the purpose.
<v Speaker 2>I think I need a new washing machine. I think
<v Speaker 2>my watching machine is eating my gin garments. And no
<v Speaker 2>that you stand up to it, but apparently not. Damn
<v Speaker 2>you've been You've been traveling a lot already this year. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>And have you felt like, hey, you got your footing
<v Speaker 2>with playing some games or anything like that. Got anything
<v Speaker 2>that happen right now that you're super into, because I'm
<v Speaker 2>I'm still I feel like I'm just kind of getting
<v Speaker 2>my footing on that I still haven't.
<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't think I've I've not played nearly as
<v Speaker 3>much games as I want to be playing, or not
<v Speaker 3>played nearly as much of the games I'm playing the game,
<v Speaker 3>but I'm not playing enough of it, if you exactly,
<v Speaker 3>which is very very annoying. I play like because I
<v Speaker 3>try and play games too when reviews are coming in,
<v Speaker 3>and I want to make sure that I've got a good,
<v Speaker 3>good grasp of them so i can, like, you know,
<v Speaker 3>check reviews and stuff like that. But I always want
<v Speaker 3>to go back to some games I just haven't had
<v Speaker 3>the chance to go back to, like Kingdom Come for example,
<v Speaker 3>right same, Yeah, and a few other games. But I'm hoping,
<v Speaker 3>like I'm off to a little more traveling this weekend,
<v Speaker 3>but I'm hoping I can get a couple of days
<v Speaker 3>of decent you know, poop soft game and and you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, right, of course it's the only way to
<v Speaker 2>do it. And then of course every time you're on
<v Speaker 2>the show, it feels like some more stuff happens. With
<v Speaker 2>with blood Born, there was all those dmcas, and then
<v Speaker 2>Katakawa CITHSTONI is going to publish some of their games.
<v Speaker 2>You feel in any type.
<v Speaker 1>Of way.
<v Speaker 3>Over it.
<v Speaker 1>I just like, I want you to not be over it,
<v Speaker 1>I think, But yeah.
<v Speaker 3>They want me to know. I've had enough. I've had enough,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I thee I saw the DMCA stuff. I'm
<v Speaker 3>just hoping that they don't come for my boy from
<v Speaker 3>soft stuff, who's out there still modern things and making
<v Speaker 3>cleaning up the way from software games look and making
<v Speaker 3>them nice and shiny. But I expect that they'll come.
<v Speaker 3>So you know what's gonna happen. It's gonna be like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>the Bloodborne that maybe it's everyone's on copum right now
<v Speaker 3>where they're like, maybe this means something totally, And you
<v Speaker 3>know what, they're gonna announce that they're making like a
<v Speaker 3>Bloodborn coloring pencil set or something like that, and everyone's
<v Speaker 3>gonna be like, for Fox's.
<v Speaker 1>Sake, Yep, listen, I'll buy it. Sure, why not?
<v Speaker 3>A yah bloodborn happy meal partnership with McDonald's things.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, any minute, it's pretty good. Actually like that a lot.
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<v Speaker 2>All right, we have a to get into, so let's
<v Speaker 2>start the morning mess with Grand Theft Auto six is
<v Speaker 2>on track to release in fall twenty twenty five. Take
<v Speaker 2>two says. This is from Chris Scullion at VGC. Grand
<v Speaker 2>Theft Auto six is still on track to release this year,
<v Speaker 2>Take two says during an investor presentation discussing its Q
<v Speaker 2>three earnings for the financial year of twenty twenty five,
<v Speaker 2>the publisher confirmed that the game is still listed as
<v Speaker 2>a launching fall of calendar twenty twenty five. It also
<v Speaker 2>says Borderlands four is still planned to release later this year.
<v Speaker 2>Take two hasn't given any more concrete release dates for
<v Speaker 2>either game, however, however, which may prove frustrating for other
<v Speaker 2>publishers who are reportedly deciding not to nail down release
<v Speaker 2>dates for their own products so as not to clash.
<v Speaker 1>With the release of Grand Theft Auto six. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I think Tam that they probably are still definitely planning
<v Speaker 2>to get this game out this year right now. Also,
<v Speaker 2>it's like, even if they're not one hundred percent sure
<v Speaker 2>it's a bit early, they have some time and if
<v Speaker 2>they feel like there's a chance they can get out,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that that that's what they want.
<v Speaker 1>I think this game slips anymore. The furthest that slips
<v Speaker 1>is into very early twenty twenty six.
<v Speaker 2>So I really do feel like we're at the we're
<v Speaker 2>running up to this game actually coming out now, right.
<v Speaker 3>I Yeah, I think that. Yeah, I personally believe they'll
<v Speaker 3>slip into early twenty twenty I do too. Six. I
<v Speaker 3>mean like they're not gonna they're not gonna come to
<v Speaker 3>a you know, investor call and you'll be like, well,
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna delay this bad boy you feel about that, I.
<v Speaker 2>Mean, especially not like it's the this is the report
<v Speaker 2>for Q three of their fiscal year. This game will
<v Speaker 2>come out in the next fiscal year, so they don't
<v Speaker 2>even really have to say much about this game yet.
<v Speaker 1>Next time, maybe they have to, like say a little
<v Speaker 1>bit more.
<v Speaker 2>But you're right, like, even if it does slip into
<v Speaker 2>early twenty twenty twenty six, that would still be their
<v Speaker 2>next fiscal year, so they don't have to start warning
<v Speaker 2>investors about anything if there if there.
<v Speaker 1>Is reason to panic, which they're they're implying there isn't. Though.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like they said, they have Borderlands planned for
<v Speaker 3>this year, right, and Borderlands is a pee that for
<v Speaker 3>better or for worse, it does gang bust in numbers,
<v Speaker 3>not GTA numbers, but good enough or high enough that
<v Speaker 3>they could, you know, just kind of rely on that
<v Speaker 3>to do the heavy lifting for the financials to a degree,
<v Speaker 3>which means it's much more palatable to them if you know,
<v Speaker 3>they decide if someone comes along and is like, hey,
<v Speaker 3>we want to move this into next year. If it
<v Speaker 3>was a case of we have nothing else, we cannot
<v Speaker 3>do that, that would make sense, but they could go,
<v Speaker 3>we're going to make a trillion dollars off this thing,
<v Speaker 3>so let's just move it the way they want to
<v Speaker 3>move it, and we have Borderlands which will pick up
<v Speaker 3>some of that slack, so we're good. And then you know,
<v Speaker 3>they have other small games, smaller games that they're probably publishing.
<v Speaker 3>If they did this, it would be the least if
<v Speaker 3>they delay, it would be the least surprising thing and
<v Speaker 3>probably the most beneficial thing for them as well.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's I mean, these massive games, it's just
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty usual. It's a standard for them to get
<v Speaker 2>like that. One last delay. And right now they're planning
<v Speaker 2>late in the year, so delay probably could push it
<v Speaker 2>early next year. But yeah, I just I guess, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's worth pointing out that they kind of internally delayed
<v Speaker 2>it as far as we're aware, because this game's revenue
<v Speaker 2>was going.
<v Speaker 1>To be reported.
<v Speaker 2>They put it in their outlook for the current fiscal
<v Speaker 2>year that we're in right now, and then they basically
<v Speaker 2>a couple earning supports that go said, Okay, actually we're
<v Speaker 2>moving that stuff out because some stuff has changed. And
<v Speaker 2>then after that they said and then Grand Theft Auto
<v Speaker 2>six is coming out later in twenty twenty five, so
<v Speaker 2>we kind of know that they shifted that game around
<v Speaker 2>previously internally before they announced any date or kind of
<v Speaker 2>talked about the game in any public way previously. So
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's already had a big delay, and I
<v Speaker 2>do think that they are most of the way there.
<v Speaker 1>Like again, this is not going.
<v Speaker 2>To be one of these delays that puts it into
<v Speaker 2>late twenty twenty six, so chance it does come out
<v Speaker 2>this year, And as you pointed out, take to you
<v Speaker 2>us a lot else going on this year. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>they did just release Civilization seven. I suppose that's in
<v Speaker 2>early access, but it's coming out this week. Mafia the
<v Speaker 2>Old Country is coming out in summer, and then they
<v Speaker 2>said Borderlands Force coming this year as well. And this
<v Speaker 2>is all in the calendar year, so before the end
<v Speaker 2>of December is when they're promising all of that. So
<v Speaker 2>they're talking a big game to investors, and I think
<v Speaker 2>they really really want to hit that if possible.
<v Speaker 3>So my question for you is, what's off to GTA.
<v Speaker 3>Are we doing another Red Dead or are we bullying
<v Speaker 3>it up or.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, god, I think they should take the
<v Speaker 2>chance to do bully but I don't know if they
<v Speaker 2>think that way.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, what it really is is a
<v Speaker 1>lot of support for GTA Online for the next several.
<v Speaker 3>Years, right, that's absolutely yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's kind of like, do I even
<v Speaker 2>want to start talking myself up into like what else
<v Speaker 2>they could be doing. They'll they'll do another Red Dead, right,
<v Speaker 2>I mean they'll.
<v Speaker 1>Get around to that eventually. Yes, eventually.
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't think they're rushing to it or
<v Speaker 2>anything like that, but yeah, I think there's a chance
<v Speaker 2>they try to like squeak something else in there. It's just,
<v Speaker 2>of course these days, a major developer like that trying
<v Speaker 2>to squeak another game in. We're talking five six, seven
<v Speaker 2>years of development, and maybe that is too much of
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity cost wasted spent on something like Bully when
<v Speaker 2>they're like, well, we could be spending that time on
<v Speaker 2>more GTA stuff and then Red Dead.
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see. I don't know, what do you think?
<v Speaker 3>I mean? I would love for them to do Bully
<v Speaker 3>or even a new IP, you know sometimes, I mean
<v Speaker 3>new ips doesn't seem super likely, but I would love
<v Speaker 3>for them to do Bully. And I feel like, of
<v Speaker 3>all the developers that I mean, like they can make anything,
<v Speaker 3>and it was probably so extremely well at least to
<v Speaker 3>begin with, Like they would have to put out a
<v Speaker 3>series of duds before anyone goes, eh, maybe we shouldn't
<v Speaker 3>be buying games you know that they put out without
<v Speaker 3>considering them too hard, and.
<v Speaker 1>They just like have such high budgets.
<v Speaker 2>That's like it's gonna look shiny compared to every other
<v Speaker 2>game by the fault because they just spend so much
<v Speaker 2>time and money.
<v Speaker 1>On their games.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, exactly. I'm yeah, I would love to see another Bully.
<v Speaker 3>I think it could be really very cool and le's
<v Speaker 3>some I feel like Bully is like a very different
<v Speaker 3>type of game, Like it's a little more contained. It's
<v Speaker 3>not as like a vast as the GTA games tend
<v Speaker 3>to be, So I could it could be them like
<v Speaker 3>flexing some you know, technical skills as well and that
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, I think there's something to be said for Okay,
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna make a whole open world, sure, but then
<v Speaker 2>let's take that same level of depth and apply it
<v Speaker 2>to just like one city block that contains school and
<v Speaker 2>make that like the deepest simulation possible and then let
<v Speaker 2>people mess around with that. You could see that being
<v Speaker 2>very I don't know, I would like that a lot.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's something like the Hitman series was doing
<v Speaker 2>really well. So hey, we're just gonna take this one
<v Speaker 2>building and give you a lot to do in there.
<v Speaker 2>And I would like to see rock Stars take on
<v Speaker 2>one little city block that they just go throw everything into. Yeah, exactly,
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's move over some stories that broke earlier
<v Speaker 2>this morning. Rock Steady is back working on a single
<v Speaker 2>player Batman game, it is claimed. Not too surprising. This
<v Speaker 2>is from Jordan Miller at VGC by way of Jason
<v Speaker 2>tryer Over at Bloomberg. Rock Steady Studios is working on
<v Speaker 2>a Batman game, it's claimed, according to Bloomberg, as part
<v Speaker 2>of a report explaining what each of Warner Brothers Games
<v Speaker 2>Studios is currently working on. It's claimed that the studio,
<v Speaker 2>which made its name with the Batman Arkham franchise, is
<v Speaker 2>going back to work on the Batman license. Rock Study
<v Speaker 2>is looking to return to Batman for a single player game,
<v Speaker 2>but according to people familiar with the timeline, the new
<v Speaker 2>project is years away from landing. The publication states rock
<v Speaker 2>Steady Studio's last game, Suicide Squad Killed the Justice League
<v Speaker 2>was a commercial and critical failure. Rock Steady Studios suffered
<v Speaker 2>layoffs earlier this year, making making it the second time
<v Speaker 2>in recent months the company has undergone job losses. It
<v Speaker 2>was reported last September that numerous rock Steady employees had
<v Speaker 2>been made redundant over the previous month, including its Q
<v Speaker 2>and A department or its QA department excuse me, being
<v Speaker 2>more than halved from thirty three staff to fifteen. As
<v Speaker 2>the latest title from the studio behind the celebrated Batman
<v Speaker 2>Arkham franchise, Suicide Squad was once was once one of
<v Speaker 2>the industry's most highly antestipated games, but that didn't work out. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think fair to just assume this at
<v Speaker 2>a certain point, but now basically confirmed, this is the
<v Speaker 2>move if you're if you're them, you kind of go back,
<v Speaker 2>you know, you go to ground right if you are
<v Speaker 2>under assault and you put out something that makes you
<v Speaker 2>feel like, okay, we have we're panicking. We got to
<v Speaker 2>figure out where what we can do. A new Batman
<v Speaker 2>single player game makes a lot of sense.
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does. It does make a lot of sense.
<v Speaker 3>Is going back to the thing that they're known for.
<v Speaker 3>I think the issue now not issue is like the
<v Speaker 3>concern is people the the tumultuous nature of Suicide Squad
<v Speaker 3>put a big spotlight on them as a studio, and
<v Speaker 3>over the course of the process, people who probably ordinarily
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have paid attention to who's there and who's leaving
<v Speaker 3>probably have paid attention. So I think folks are a
<v Speaker 3>little more aware of what kind what the state of
<v Speaker 3>rock Steady is right now where you know, I don't
<v Speaker 3>think Sefton's there anymore, Like there's there's some key Batman
<v Speaker 3>creatives that are no longer there. That's not to say
<v Speaker 3>they can't make a good Batman game. I have faith
<v Speaker 3>in them as a studio to make that, but I
<v Speaker 3>think there's going to be a little more scrutiny. And
<v Speaker 3>I said, I would say that my faith isn't like unimpeachable.
<v Speaker 3>I'm slightly concerned. But you know, there's a bunch of
<v Speaker 3>people there who probably deserved a short long time ago
<v Speaker 3>and may have some good ideas that are gonna finally
<v Speaker 3>get the opportunity to make the thing that they want
<v Speaker 3>because Suicide Squad damn sure wasn't what they wanted to
<v Speaker 3>do just know that inside and out.
<v Speaker 1>When do you think we see this game?
<v Speaker 2>I mean right now, you know, twenty twenty five, they're
<v Speaker 2>probably just really getting started. Games take forever now. It
<v Speaker 2>has to live up to the Batman Arkham legacy. So
<v Speaker 2>it's gotta it's gotta be real good. Can't come in
<v Speaker 2>half baked. When do you think we see it?
<v Speaker 3>I think that it's probably like at least three or
<v Speaker 3>four years away, maybe more. And like I I'm not
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent confident that will make it to release,
<v Speaker 3>if you know what I mean, Like I hope so,
<v Speaker 3>but the economics of making a game are so unpredictable
<v Speaker 3>right now, the kind of appetite for making games changes,
<v Speaker 3>especially at a company like Warner Brothers, Like right now
<v Speaker 3>they can they might be in on games because you know,
<v Speaker 3>more combat does well for them, and Batman has previously
<v Speaker 3>done well for them, but it did very well Harry
<v Speaker 3>Potter did with them. It's it's also the kind of
<v Speaker 3>company that, regardless of how well games are doing and
<v Speaker 3>how invested they are, it's not their main business and
<v Speaker 3>any sort of like minor bump in the road could
<v Speaker 3>be a potential bump that has them just killing off
<v Speaker 3>their entire game business.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they feel the drag on gaming harder than they
<v Speaker 2>would feel like movies. They can't give up movies, right,
<v Speaker 2>You're right, So if there's a drag on games, they're like, well,
<v Speaker 2>why are we even doing this?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, And like you know, Zaz Love is not
<v Speaker 3>known for making the most you know, not a visionary,
<v Speaker 3>consumer friendly kind of decisions. Not really a visionary. He's
<v Speaker 3>a numbers man or if he gets him like a
<v Speaker 3>one percent better numbers, he will kill everything to make
<v Speaker 3>that happen. So I hope, So, I hope. I would
<v Speaker 3>love for rock Steady to restore his former glory. It's
<v Speaker 3>a British studio, so I'm super invested in that they're
<v Speaker 3>working on probably my one of my favorite ips of
<v Speaker 3>all time. I love Batman, so I would love to
<v Speaker 3>see them come back with a good Batman game. I
<v Speaker 3>do wonder what it is, Maybe that Damian Wayne game
<v Speaker 3>that they originally had knocking about, I hope, or you know,
<v Speaker 3>a Batman Beyond.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, we talked about Batman Beyond previously. It's like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>that's what they should go do, I think, And then
<v Speaker 2>someone reached out to me is like well, whatever they're
<v Speaker 2>working on, it's not Batman Beyond.
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about that.
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think a Batman Beyond game will ever
<v Speaker 3>be made. People you say the words Bruce Wayne, people
<v Speaker 3>go Batman. You say the word Terry McGinnis, and people
<v Speaker 3>go drunken man at a bar. Question mark is.
<v Speaker 4>That like a television lawyer like what, Yeah, yeah, it's
<v Speaker 4>fight for you. Yeah, I'm Terry McGinnis retro game core. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>sadly is Yeah. The kind of Beyond the universe is
<v Speaker 4>isolated to the hardcore audience, the people who really cared
<v Speaker 4>about that kind of stuff, and it's gonna I think
<v Speaker 4>it's only really gonna manifest in certain places, like you know,
<v Speaker 4>comic book, New Comic Book, small.
<v Speaker 2>Little elements of that and use it in their own way,
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, okay, we see how you're inspired by
<v Speaker 2>Batman Beyond.
<v Speaker 3>I think best case scenario pathway to a Batman Beyond
<v Speaker 3>game is putting out a Batman game with Bruce or
<v Speaker 3>more recognizable characters and starting to lay the kind of
<v Speaker 3>foundations and crumbs to a Terry McInnis game where you know,
<v Speaker 3>you have a file in the cave that says Terry
<v Speaker 3>McInnis on it, and like, you know, it says something
<v Speaker 3>about keeping an eye on this kid, and eventually, you know,
<v Speaker 3>the next game, maybe two games down the line, they're like,
<v Speaker 3>you know, Bruce is old now, but we've got that
<v Speaker 3>guy who you've been hearing references to constantly.
<v Speaker 2>You said it, But like WB's interest in this, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>we known, We've known for years. We've heard the stories repeatedly,
<v Speaker 2>Warner Brothers trying to sell its gaming division can't find
<v Speaker 2>a buyer. That has not just happened once. At this point,
<v Speaker 2>it's been two or three times, and no one wants.
<v Speaker 1>To buy it.
<v Speaker 2>So we know Warner brothers interest only goes so far
<v Speaker 2>into gaming, and really, right now it seems mostly disinterested
<v Speaker 2>and kind of just hates the cost of these things,
<v Speaker 2>regardless of the success they might have had with anything.
<v Speaker 2>So yep, the four or five six years it might
<v Speaker 2>take to make a Batman game, who knows, who know
<v Speaker 2>anything can happen, and who knows what.
<v Speaker 3>Batman could get canceled in that time? That's right, man,
<v Speaker 3>who knows?
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, by the time the game comes out, isn't there
<v Speaker 2>a strong chance Batman will be in the public domain.
<v Speaker 2>Is Batman in the public domain like twenty thirty one
<v Speaker 2>or something.
<v Speaker 3>Like that, and that is never happening. It's zero.
<v Speaker 2>Listen, if it happened to Steamboat Willie slash Mickey Mouse,
<v Speaker 2>it'll be.
<v Speaker 3>Anything about steamboat willing. No one knows who Steamboat Willie
<v Speaker 3>is old and graying, like no one knows who steamboat
<v Speaker 3>you think Mickey saying the laws around public use copyright
<v Speaker 3>will be changed before Batman gets they could be changed.
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised if they are changed, because Batman
<v Speaker 3>could become like a publicly available with you.
<v Speaker 1>If Disney can't, well, okay, you know what. Here's the thing.
<v Speaker 1>Here's what happened with Disney is they.
<v Speaker 2>Were responsible for the law changing previously, and everyone got
<v Speaker 2>like was like, you know, fuck you Disney, like how
<v Speaker 2>do you have this much power? And so they got
<v Speaker 2>afraid to wield it, like when when the expisson did
<v Speaker 2>come up. Now we're in a kind of a different
<v Speaker 2>place with how corporations care about what we think about them,
<v Speaker 2>So you're right, maybe maybe this is a different situation
<v Speaker 2>and they could extend it once again.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would be extremely surprised if Batman goes into
<v Speaker 3>public domain, because let me tell you, I want to
<v Speaker 3>be writing some stories and they are gonna be disgusted.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, if it's a parody story involving lots of
<v Speaker 2>terrible sex.
<v Speaker 1>Acts, you can already write that. Don't worry. It's transformative.
<v Speaker 3>Sure, No, I don't need to do the other people
<v Speaker 3>taking care of Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>They got your back there. All right.
<v Speaker 2>We're sticking with Warner Brothers Wonder Woman the game. The
<v Speaker 2>Wonder Woman game has reportedly been rebooted and is still
<v Speaker 2>years away. This is from Jordan Miller of VGC as well.
<v Speaker 2>WB's Wonder Woman game is years away from release. According
<v Speaker 2>to a new report, wonder Woman, which is being developed
<v Speaker 2>by Monolith Productions, will use the Nemesis system from their
<v Speaker 2>acclaimed pair of Lord of the Rings games released during
<v Speaker 2>the last generation. The game was announced in twenty twenty one.
<v Speaker 3>They said, acclaimed pair. Yes, I'm not sure about that one, chief,
<v Speaker 3>Let's try though.
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Miller sneaking that in the number one yeah, number
<v Speaker 2>one Shadow of mort or two fan what I can't
<v Speaker 2>remember the name of that.
<v Speaker 3>Game, war Shadow of Wool.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, now.
<v Speaker 3>It was fantastic Wool like what yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Now, According to Bloomberg, the project has been rebooted last
<v Speaker 2>year and has switched directors. One of the company's biggest
<v Speaker 2>bets in development, a video game based on Wonder Woman,
<v Speaker 2>has struggled to according to people familiar with the project,
<v Speaker 2>early last year, it was rebooted, rebooted, and switched directors.
<v Speaker 2>The game has already cost more than one hundred million dollars,
<v Speaker 2>said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing
<v Speaker 2>non public information, and it's still years away from release,
<v Speaker 2>if it ever makes it to market. Elsewhere in the report,
<v Speaker 2>it's claimed that both Harry Potter Quidditch Champions and Multiverses flopped.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen a single human
<v Speaker 1>being talk about that Quidditch game. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So Warner Brothers, man, they have some real misses, and
<v Speaker 2>they've got some big hits for sure, and then they
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of big projects in the works that
<v Speaker 2>are years away.
<v Speaker 1>Some of them have been in development since twenty twenty one.
<v Speaker 2>Basically it breaks down to here, Tam Warner Brothers doesn't
<v Speaker 2>have any major games coming out for the next two
<v Speaker 2>years because of stuff like this, and now we're like
<v Speaker 2>wondering if this Wonder Woman game ever actually comes.
<v Speaker 3>Out again, I think it's subject to the same kind
<v Speaker 3>of whims of corporate whims as potentially a Batman game could,
<v Speaker 3>Like they have nothing coming out, You're right, they could
<v Speaker 3>either you know, stay the course and let Monolith make
<v Speaker 3>this game which day is completely unproven with the character
<v Speaker 3>that has some appeal but is quickly diminishing. Like I
<v Speaker 3>feel like, firstly, Galigad has done irreparable damage to the
<v Speaker 3>DC universe with her absolutely dogshit acting, so that character
<v Speaker 3>people are like, ah, but if you've been reading the comics,
<v Speaker 3>then maybe you have a little bit more interesting Wonder Woman,
<v Speaker 3>or you watch I don't know, you accidentally stumble your
<v Speaker 3>way into watching Justice League and limited on on Max
<v Speaker 3>or something like that. But Wonder Woman isn't a very
<v Speaker 3>exposed to the public character, if you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 3>The comics are fantastic, but everything else outside of that
<v Speaker 3>she don't exist on me is like, what who's this for?
<v Speaker 3>So there is there is a I I love the
<v Speaker 3>DC universe, so I am I would love to play this.
<v Speaker 3>I do wonder if a certain points soon, you know,
<v Speaker 3>the next bump in the road for this development cycle,
<v Speaker 3>someone goes there is anyone actually care about this character
<v Speaker 3>in the video game world. And then that's the kind
<v Speaker 3>of like the the the the pund, the stone in
<v Speaker 3>the pond that results in you know this game right,
<v Speaker 3>and that's canceled.
<v Speaker 2>Upon already being that has been severely disturbed by Suicide
<v Speaker 2>Squad right where they're like, hey, we've been through this
<v Speaker 2>already with Okay, we bring it a game because a
<v Speaker 2>movie did really well, and then we put out a sequel,
<v Speaker 2>and the sequel was in that case, was actually better
<v Speaker 2>but was less well received just because for a bunch
<v Speaker 2>of reasons. But people felt burned by the first Suicide
<v Speaker 2>Squad and it's like, uh oh, no one cares about
<v Speaker 2>Suicide Squad.
<v Speaker 3>Did you say the one second Wonder Woman movie?
<v Speaker 4>No, the second Suicide Squad movie in that case, okay,
<v Speaker 4>wonder one Woman movie.
<v Speaker 1>Damn literally, I find that movie vile. That movie watch.
<v Speaker 3>That is a war crimes so it is so it
<v Speaker 3>is atrociousness. The first one is pretty bad.
<v Speaker 2>Like when I was watching it, I was trying to
<v Speaker 2>watch it, I was like, I gave it a real shy,
<v Speaker 2>but I had nothing against Wonder Woman. The first one
<v Speaker 2>in the movie Woman movie is fine. I'm sitting down
<v Speaker 2>to watch the second one, and I'm feeling like, actually repulsed.
<v Speaker 1>By it, and I had to turn it off about
<v Speaker 1>forty minutes in.
<v Speaker 3>I watched that one. I watched a little bit of
<v Speaker 3>that one. I was like, I cannot, I cannot do
<v Speaker 3>this to myself. I respect myself just enough to stop this.
<v Speaker 3>The first one I watched all the way through and
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that was gross and terrible, like like
<v Speaker 3>it had its moments, but like I was just why
<v Speaker 3>why do they do this? Why do they do this?
<v Speaker 3>The last like I can't remember all the last good
<v Speaker 3>DC universe movie was like in my genuine will be
<v Speaker 3>like Birds of Prey. Birds of Prey was at least
<v Speaker 3>one praise fun. Maybe it is that Suicide Squad.
<v Speaker 2>Suicide Squad. The second one is very good. There's there
<v Speaker 2>had to be one recently that did all right.
<v Speaker 3>I don't count like The Batman because the Batman is
<v Speaker 3>not really in that same universe. Also, I love The Batman.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a I've seen it many many times.
<v Speaker 3>It's also not a particularly good movie. Like I think
<v Speaker 3>it's got a lot going for it. El Rata Alta
<v Speaker 3>is one of the stupidest things I have ever experienced
<v Speaker 3>in all my years as someone who can read words
<v Speaker 3>and is a Batman. Fans like fuck, you know, like
<v Speaker 3>that is some stupid as shiit, what's greatest detective? Embarrassing? Embarrassing?
<v Speaker 3>I've seen that movie many times. I love it. I
<v Speaker 3>think I own it on Blu Ray. I've seen it
<v Speaker 3>with a live orchestra. I just got good vibes.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the ra.
<v Speaker 3>Alta is the stupidest shit I've ever heard of by life.
<v Speaker 2>I think I am fully where you're at with that,
<v Speaker 2>where it's like it's a movie.
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine watching.
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy it in some but when I assess it
<v Speaker 2>as a film, it comes up short in a lot
<v Speaker 2>of ways. Either way, what we're saying is people have
<v Speaker 2>lost interest in Wonder Woman compared to the Zen if
<v Speaker 2>it was at when it when it that first movie
<v Speaker 2>came out. Same thing happen with Suicide Squad, and now
<v Speaker 2>we saw what happened Suicide Squad.
<v Speaker 1>You're right.
<v Speaker 2>If these pebbles get thrown in this pond over and
<v Speaker 2>over again for this game, eventually they're just gonna, you know,
<v Speaker 2>go home, and they're not gonna go They'll see this
<v Speaker 2>thing through.
<v Speaker 3>They'll take this as far as it can go, and
<v Speaker 3>if it gets if it gets canceled, they'll just swap
<v Speaker 3>it out for the Xeno Warrior Princess liscense. Okay, and
<v Speaker 3>as we know, Xeno Warrior princesses perennially popcast. Everyone loves
<v Speaker 3>Zeno Warrior Prince.
<v Speaker 2>Never declined that that that Xena Warrior Princess game for GameCube.
<v Speaker 3>That's something incredible. Yep, everyone loves Zena and Gabrielle and
<v Speaker 3>other characters in that show.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Bruce Campbells the Joxa, the Mighty Bruce Campbelluh huh Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Wednesday, Ivan Ramie, Sam Raimi's brother. Yeah, Carl Urban's in there.
<v Speaker 3>I watched the lot. I think I've seen every episode
<v Speaker 3>of Xeno Warrior Princess.
<v Speaker 2>So I always have that era of TV. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 2>all right, you know what, We're gonna take a break.
<v Speaker 2>When we come back. Let's talk about Hey, that Nintendo
<v Speaker 2>Patton that confirmed that thing's gonna work as a mouse.
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that right after this.
<v Speaker 2>All right, we're back. We're getting right back into it.
<v Speaker 2>And here we are with Nintendo thing. You're saying, really
<v Speaker 2>really hello, Hi, Tam. You can't hear me. I think
<v Speaker 2>I'm lighting up in discord. You have your ears? You
<v Speaker 2>really you really can't hear me? I can hear you?
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's see here. I'm not sure what to
<v Speaker 2>do about this, tam. Uh we even come back?
<v Speaker 1>Maybe? All right? Season chat and come back?
<v Speaker 3>Wait wait wait ye back you back.
<v Speaker 1>You back? Okay, all right, I don't no idea what
<v Speaker 1>happened there, Tam.
<v Speaker 3>I was yeah, okay, I said some absolutely disgusting shit
<v Speaker 3>about you know, worried princess. So it's probably best that.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well we could hear you the entire time, is
<v Speaker 1>the thing.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, gotcha?
<v Speaker 1>All right.
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo patent applications seems to confirm switch to joy Con feature.
<v Speaker 2>This is from Blair Marnell at game Spot. Earlier this year,
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo debuted a brief first look at switch to which
<v Speaker 2>didn't offer many details about the new console. However, there
<v Speaker 2>was a moment in the teaser video where the next
<v Speaker 2>generation of joy Cons appeared to move over a flat
<v Speaker 2>surface like a mouse.
<v Speaker 1>Now.
<v Speaker 2>A Japanese patent application filed in August twenty twenty three
<v Speaker 2>appears to confirm that the joy Cons will have mouse
<v Speaker 2>capabilities or at least that Nintendo patented that idea. The
<v Speaker 2>application was publicly revealed on February sixth, and it includes
<v Speaker 2>an early schematic for new the New JOYCN, which it
<v Speaker 2>describes as the input device. The patent also states that
<v Speaker 2>it has a sensor for mouse operation, which functions in
<v Speaker 2>a similar way that normal what normal mice work with computers.
<v Speaker 2>I think at this point most people have like looked
<v Speaker 2>at that trailer, looked at their early rumors, and accepted
<v Speaker 2>that this is probably happening. But this is this all
<v Speaker 2>but confirms it. Nintendo will likely show off some of
<v Speaker 2>the functionality for themselves when we get to that switch
<v Speaker 2>or that April second switch to event that Nintendo directed
<v Speaker 2>at that point. But yeah, it looks like this is real,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm getting more excited about because I think this
<v Speaker 2>is a good like sort of zone for a Nintendo
<v Speaker 2>gimmick of I had to, I do have one question. Yeah, why, Well,
<v Speaker 2>because you know, Nintendo's always feels the next like it feels,
<v Speaker 2>but they.
<v Speaker 1>Want to have a gimmick, They want to have something.
<v Speaker 1>They want to set this uparate themselves a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>And no one's going to play Football Manager on your
<v Speaker 3>console or civil wherever it may be. Well, give us
<v Speaker 3>Metroid Prime and shut up.
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, hopefully they do give us Metroid Prime. If
<v Speaker 2>this is the reason we don't get Metro Prime before,
<v Speaker 2>I will be deeply upset, of course. But a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people do play SIF six on switch. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if those people would like switch over to the
<v Speaker 2>mouse though, because I think you can already plug in
<v Speaker 2>a PC mouse yeah, usb into a switch and play
<v Speaker 2>some games.
<v Speaker 1>Like that with like with that method. So that's been there.
<v Speaker 2>I think what this really is, Tam, is there will
<v Speaker 2>be three to seven Nintendo published first party games from
<v Speaker 2>their weird studios that are along the lines of Mario
<v Speaker 2>Paint and game Maker Garage.
<v Speaker 3>If this results in a Mario Paint game, I'm I
<v Speaker 3>take everything I'm I will have said, and we'll say
<v Speaker 3>about this mouse thing back.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very real, weird dumb stuff like the suite of
<v Speaker 2>Art art games for the sixty four D D.
<v Speaker 3>Or like the cardboard boxes that you put together to
<v Speaker 3>play video games in which my laber I'm sorry, I
<v Speaker 3>am sorry. Okay, what the what were they doing?
<v Speaker 1>You mean they were they were They were like raising
<v Speaker 1>up a new generation of stem lovers. Tam.
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know, genuinely for two months. I two months,
<v Speaker 3>like that thing was about and like the amount of
<v Speaker 3>cardboard bullshit that's probably knocking around the earth because of.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had a key either the piano. I did
<v Speaker 2>that one. I did a few of them at this point.
<v Speaker 2>But building that piano was a lot of fun. And
<v Speaker 2>eventually I did have to throw it out and it
<v Speaker 2>made me feel bad because it's like, I've spent so
<v Speaker 2>much time working on this, but.
<v Speaker 3>I created a disposable video game.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, when you put it like that, like.
<v Speaker 3>They made that ship knowing that it was gonna get
<v Speaker 3>chucked away. It has no durability and they're not gonna
<v Speaker 3>support it beyond a couple months. That's wild.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to raise expansion cardboard, tam. That's crazy.
<v Speaker 3>I don't do that, crazy, man, that's crazy. At least
<v Speaker 3>Left's Tap was one box and you could just tap it.
<v Speaker 3>Was that was that called tap one one to switch?
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're thinking out?
<v Speaker 3>No, there's that one game where you put the the
<v Speaker 3>we remote on the bucks and then tap the bucks
<v Speaker 3>and was that a horrifying thing.
<v Speaker 1>For the Wii. Let's tap on Wi.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes, that's what I said. Let's tap it.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes you did. I didn't know you're talking about
<v Speaker 4>that the Wii game. Okay, yes, reinstated.
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's bring that back. Actually that that's that sounds
<v Speaker 1>like fun.
<v Speaker 3>And also, if I remember correctly, they didn't give you
<v Speaker 3>that stupid ass box. They were like, you play this
<v Speaker 3>with the bucks, but not giving you the bucks.
<v Speaker 1>To your own. Of course you did.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's you asked why it's the answer is just Nintendo.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just gave all the reasons Nintendo's gonna
<v Speaker 2>do this because they've done stuff like Labbo in the past.
<v Speaker 4>Oh god, Oh no, Tam, You've been hit with the
<v Speaker 4>fuddy duddy that's usually exclusively, exclusively, rever reserved for Mike Manatti.
<v Speaker 1>How does that make you feel?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know I should take away
<v Speaker 3>from this. I think if it's in response to my
<v Speaker 3>thinking about LABO, I stand proud of it. I'm proud
<v Speaker 3>of being a fuddy duddy.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 3>Also, like using the word the phrase fuddy duddy automatically
<v Speaker 3>ages you by fifty years.
<v Speaker 2>Mike did refer to himself as a fuddy duddy first,
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, so we just kind of ran with that.
<v Speaker 3>I know Michael did it. That's why Mike is the
<v Speaker 3>most Grandpa energy ship I've ever seen. Definitely, he his
<v Speaker 3>his like family members. When he's old, they're going to
<v Speaker 3>be like Grandpa tell us story and he's going to
<v Speaker 3>be like, there's a mouse named Mickey, like as this
<v Speaker 3>fucking Vietnam War style recounting of Mickey Mickey Mouse's adventures.
<v Speaker 1>And he loves it.
<v Speaker 2>He loves his opinion takes and everything. So everyone should
<v Speaker 2>definitely carry on with that for sure. All Right, he
<v Speaker 2>says he's still catching strays. I think these are directly
<v Speaker 2>aimed at you.
<v Speaker 3>Actually, this is a sniper rifle point it directly at
<v Speaker 3>Mike Manati's forehead. That's so I operate, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, switch to joy kind features they're real, let's move on.
<v Speaker 2>GTA six publisher fully expects to support switch to going forward.
<v Speaker 2>This is from Jordan Miller of VGC. This is another
<v Speaker 2>thing out of that take to earn Interport. SIP six
<v Speaker 2>did do very well on switch. They're launching a SIEVE
<v Speaker 2>seven on switch. It'll work on switch to. So like
<v Speaker 2>they're definitely talking about stuff like that. Do you expect anything.
<v Speaker 3>B I I my sweetest son much child. I know
<v Speaker 3>that you thought, Oh, they're gonna support SIEV on this. No,
<v Speaker 3>they're getting ready for the age of we Slop returning.
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna put out like every every rubbish like compilation
<v Speaker 3>of moveable you know, motion controlled games. Again, that's what
<v Speaker 3>we're getting, right.
<v Speaker 2>This is this doesn't mean like the Borderlands for They're
<v Speaker 2>probably not thinking like we got to get that on
<v Speaker 2>switch to necessarily, right.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think. I mean, like I'm sure they will
<v Speaker 3>because isn't isn't like the the leaked specs of it,
<v Speaker 3>like it's a little beef here. Then then you know,
<v Speaker 3>it's like you would.
<v Speaker 2>Have AS four and PS four pro we'll see, you know,
<v Speaker 2>with the tech features.
<v Speaker 1>On top of that might be better.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so maybe like they're able to put some games
<v Speaker 3>on there. But I think like the only thing that
<v Speaker 3>these gimmicks really do is create a short period of
<v Speaker 3>time where everyone tries to make these gimmicks work because
<v Speaker 3>they remember what it was like with the Wii and
<v Speaker 3>the deep well of money they generated by just making
<v Speaker 3>ping pong and clean this glass game, you know, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>it's like weird shit like that so.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they let's see here that they did.
<v Speaker 2>They released the WWE games and the NBA two K
<v Speaker 2>and that stuff. They don't like super support on Switch,
<v Speaker 2>but they do it every year, so they must sell enough.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I think you're right where It's like
<v Speaker 2>when they're talking about switch to and it's you they're
<v Speaker 2>probably talking about. They'll continue doing that stuff as like
<v Speaker 2>a gesture, and then it will be like, hey, how
<v Speaker 2>else can we reach this specific audience and then not
<v Speaker 2>put a lot of money into it, just like Nintendo does,
<v Speaker 2>only realizing Nintendo also puts a lot of effort into
<v Speaker 2>it while not spending a ton of money.
<v Speaker 1>All right.
<v Speaker 2>One of Nintendo's weirder games is coming to Switch Online
<v Speaker 2>this month. This is from Evan Campbell at GameSpot or
<v Speaker 2>as I wrote here, game Spoot just in time for
<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day. Nintendo's dropping Warrio Land for on Nintendo Switch
<v Speaker 2>Online plus Expansion Pack on February fourteenth. The weird game
<v Speaker 2>Boy advanced platformer sees the gassy anti hero turning into
<v Speaker 2>zombie Warrio and bouncy Warrio, just a couple of the
<v Speaker 2>transformations he's capable of. This is a really good game
<v Speaker 2>Boy advanced platformer. I love Warrioland games. This so really
<v Speaker 2>it is a weird one that's got a lot of
<v Speaker 2>fun ideas in it. From two thousand and one and
<v Speaker 2>day now it's going it's going to be available later
<v Speaker 2>next week.
<v Speaker 1>On Nintendo Switch Online plus expansion pack.
<v Speaker 3>That's a good platform.
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 2>I like I like all the warrio Land games, and
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of differences between. I guess like one
<v Speaker 2>versus two and three are pretty similar. And then Forrest
<v Speaker 2>got some new ideas as well, and Forest is like
<v Speaker 2>the one like the Anton Blast seems to be even
<v Speaker 2>the most inspired by these days.
<v Speaker 1>All right.
<v Speaker 2>Smite two dev lays off staff apparently ends work on
<v Speaker 2>three games, including Smite one. This is from George Yang
<v Speaker 2>at GameSpot. Smite two developer High Res is apparently laid
<v Speaker 2>off fifty to sixty employees in stop development on three games,
<v Speaker 2>Roague Company, Paladins and Smite one. Several now former employees
<v Speaker 2>of High Res took the social media saying that they
<v Speaker 2>had been laid off and the layoffs look like they
<v Speaker 2>impact a variety of departments from designers, QA, marketing, and
<v Speaker 2>social media. A Twitter user posted a message presumably from
<v Speaker 2>High Res CEO Stewart Shazam that stated that the reduction
<v Speaker 2>impacted the rally Here, Evil Mojo, and Titanforge game divisions. Additionally,
<v Speaker 2>Rogue Company Paladins Smite one will no longer receive major updates,
<v Speaker 2>but the servers will remain up for the foreseeable future.
<v Speaker 2>Snite two is currently in early access and looks to
<v Speaker 2>be High Res's sole focus going forward. The aforementioned message
<v Speaker 2>also stated that the reductions are meant to enable a
<v Speaker 2>steady flow of new content for Smite two.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>This is one of one of those developers that I
<v Speaker 2>was always like, man, they have a lot more games
<v Speaker 2>than I always remember. It's like, yeah, they're the Smite team,
<v Speaker 2>and it's well, they made Paladins, which is like the
<v Speaker 2>first kind of Overwatch clone that really popped off, and
<v Speaker 2>then they went to Smite too, and then in between
<v Speaker 2>that they had that Rogue Company game, which was that
<v Speaker 2>online shooter that launched a bunch of stuff, including Switchy.
<v Speaker 2>I think they've already stopped working on the switch version
<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, so the fact that they've had
<v Speaker 2>to reduce to focus on just Smite two isn't too surprising,
<v Speaker 2>because it does feel like the time for like Paladins
<v Speaker 2>and Rogue Company has has come and gone.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Do you think a studio like this working on something
<v Speaker 2>like Smite can make things make sense because it feels like, man,
<v Speaker 2>they are really just trying to keep these things together.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, man, I think it can make sense,
<v Speaker 3>but perhaps not operating at the scale that they have
<v Speaker 3>been for a very long time. Yeah, I forgot about
<v Speaker 3>Smite if I'm being honest. Obviously, like people losing their
<v Speaker 3>jobs sucks, yep, But yeah, it's hard to say whether.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like even the most like well supported and
<v Speaker 3>resource devs are struggling right now, so a studio like this,
<v Speaker 3>like Hirase is probably going through it a bit more
<v Speaker 3>than most. But yeah, I feel like it's it's sad
<v Speaker 3>to see people losing their jobs. But sometimes like these companies,
<v Speaker 3>they I mean, unless they're being shitty, they try and
<v Speaker 3>kind of like focus it to make sure that they can,
<v Speaker 3>you know, have some sort of sustainability. But yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, man, it sucks.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fifty sixty employees, it's that that that is just
<v Speaker 2>devastating to see. As always having several games are all
<v Speaker 2>kind of Sunset at the same time. That's clearly they
<v Speaker 2>were trying to keep these these projects up and going.
<v Speaker 2>Like that's the only reason that this is all happened
<v Speaker 2>at the same time is because for they've been they
<v Speaker 2>were just trying to brute force their way through this
<v Speaker 2>and keep all those projects going and support it because
<v Speaker 2>they definitely still have players. I think Smite one still
<v Speaker 2>has a probably a decent player base, not like anything massive,
<v Speaker 2>but I know that's like one of the mobives that
<v Speaker 2>people are still into. We'll see if they're able to
<v Speaker 2>pull the nose up with Smite two, but it's just
<v Speaker 2>such a different environment. It's not like they're going to
<v Speaker 2>be able to go find investors to the you know,
<v Speaker 2>smooth things over, because no one's investing in games right now,
<v Speaker 2>especially at this scale. So we'll see how it goes
<v Speaker 2>from there. All right, last headline and then maybe we'll
<v Speaker 2>do a couple of grub snacks questions.
<v Speaker 1>To end out the week.
<v Speaker 2>Football Manager twenty five canceled after multiple delays, dev.
<v Speaker 1>Moves on to the next game.
<v Speaker 2>This is from Georgiana Game Spot as well Sports Interactive
<v Speaker 2>and Sega have announced that Football Manager twenty five is
<v Speaker 2>canceled and will and the developer will instead focus on
<v Speaker 2>their next release. The developer provided a lengthy explanation as
<v Speaker 2>to why Football Manager twenty five was canceled. While many
<v Speaker 2>of the game's areas hit the developers internal targets, the
<v Speaker 2>overarching player experience and interface weren't up to its standards.
<v Speaker 2>Through evaluations in play testing, the development team was confident
<v Speaker 2>in a new direction, but the desired standards were ultimately
<v Speaker 2>still too far away. However, the team will take their
<v Speaker 2>learnings onto the next project. Basically, they're just going to
<v Speaker 2>skip right over and start working on a Football Manager
<v Speaker 2>twenty six. This is the first time they haven't put
<v Speaker 2>out a Football Manager in a year, in thirty two years.
<v Speaker 2>That's what you always gonna be, like, Oh man, there's
<v Speaker 2>no way that they were hoping that this would happen.
<v Speaker 2>They were trying to avoid this as well.
<v Speaker 3>But this kind of people in absolute shambles right now.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, exactly. I'm have you talked to your family, have
<v Speaker 2>you checked in on them? Is everyone all right?
<v Speaker 3>Cannot get through to anyone then, like it's just like
<v Speaker 3>everything's on fire, like twenty eight days later over there.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, hopefully they are able to just get the
<v Speaker 2>next one, get everything improved and ready to go. But
<v Speaker 2>it didn't work for what was the NBA game NBA
<v Speaker 2>Live that EA had, and it's like they never could
<v Speaker 2>get those together. Although I hope this isn't quite as
<v Speaker 2>much of a mess as.
<v Speaker 3>That in the elite. Yeah, I think I think there's
<v Speaker 3>enough of an incentive to to keep making these games.
<v Speaker 3>Aren't going with they they make an absurd amount of money.
<v Speaker 3>And also, last time I checked, I don't regularly keep
<v Speaker 3>a football manager as a game is pretty integrated into
<v Speaker 3>the actual real industry of football. So like a lot
<v Speaker 3>of coaches and assistant coaches will run sims using football
<v Speaker 3>Manager to kind of figure things out, and I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>like it's it's it's an important part of the actual
<v Speaker 3>sport in a lot of ways. So I think it's
<v Speaker 3>got some longevity because of that. But yeah, we ain't
<v Speaker 3>seen this is not the last. We haven't seen the
<v Speaker 3>last of football Manager. I can assure you of that.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's right, and I think that also does
<v Speaker 2>it for the headlines. We have a little bit extra time,
<v Speaker 2>so I've opened up the field for questions from the audience. Hey,
<v Speaker 2>if you have something. There's an ask a question button
<v Speaker 2>there at the top. If you're in twitch chat, we'll
<v Speaker 2>check in on.
<v Speaker 1>That as well.
<v Speaker 3>Just you know, ad us anything.
<v Speaker 2>Ask us anything. Let's start here with God. Say what
<v Speaker 2>I believe? Nikki from chat says, why does my back hurt?
<v Speaker 1>Sam? Do you have an answer? Oh? What is?
<v Speaker 3>It? Could be a posture. Just double check your posture.
<v Speaker 3>Make sure you're sitting on a good chair. Good chair
<v Speaker 3>can mean many things. You make sure you have lombar support.
<v Speaker 3>You need a little bit of that. You don't have
<v Speaker 3>to be sitting in like just a wooden you know,
<v Speaker 3>dining chair or whatever it may be. That's important. You
<v Speaker 3>may need to take some vitamins to kind of strengthen
<v Speaker 3>the old bones. And also you might just be old
<v Speaker 3>as hell man. Sorry, yeah, it happens.
<v Speaker 1>It happens to everybody eventually.
<v Speaker 2>Also, you know the phone, when you hold it like this,
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, the further away from your face
<v Speaker 2>it is.
<v Speaker 1>The more you know.
<v Speaker 4>It's like the ladies, So I always talked about like all
<v Speaker 4>the bad back pains and stuff like that, because they
<v Speaker 4>have to carry stuff out in.
<v Speaker 1>Front of their bodies. That is the same thing when
<v Speaker 1>you're holding the phone.
<v Speaker 2>It's going to hurt your back, So maybe try to
<v Speaker 2>bring it in kind of or put it down every
<v Speaker 2>once in a while.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Get off your phone, you damn kid.
<v Speaker 3>Go to the gym and walk out. You'll back.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I already don't use the phone. Well, Nicky, then
<v Speaker 2>God hates you. Have you considered that that's a possibility
<v Speaker 2>as well? All right, so let's see someone from the
<v Speaker 2>twitch chat asks, have you played my in Street Fighter six?
<v Speaker 1>I have not yet.
<v Speaker 3>That's putted me. Me and my.
<v Speaker 2>Perfect ne Luck asks where is the fire Emblem remake
<v Speaker 2>on a shelf somewhere? Completely finished for more than a
<v Speaker 2>year now, a lot longer than a year now. Nintendo
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I'm assuming is just saving it for
<v Speaker 2>switch to I just like to plug in a development
<v Speaker 2>gap over there at some point, because it wouldn't make
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense to release that, I.
<v Speaker 1>Think at the very end of the Switch one.
<v Speaker 2>But who knows, maybe maybe this direct that they're gonna
<v Speaker 2>have if if they're gonna have one this month, actually
<v Speaker 2>is is gonna be like okay, and Fire Memory make
<v Speaker 2>is the last thing that will come out on.
<v Speaker 1>The switch I guess it's possible. All right, let's see.
<v Speaker 2>Here, Donch Eagle. This one's through you, Tam Eagles or Chiefs.
<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about?
<v Speaker 1>Eagles or Chiefs? What do you like better?
<v Speaker 3>I like eagles. Eagles are pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Egles are pretty dope. I like calling people chief though.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good that's.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I don't. I don't. I
<v Speaker 3>don't really call people chief. I like boss.
<v Speaker 2>Now you're not an elderly gentleman like myself. It's like really,
<v Speaker 2>it really comes like falls into place as you get
<v Speaker 2>to be like forty two, forty three, sixty seven.
<v Speaker 3>Oh was that was that? Was that an American egg
<v Speaker 3>Bowl question?
<v Speaker 1>Yes?
<v Speaker 2>The super Bowl matchup is the Philadelphia Eagles versus the
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City Chiefs.
<v Speaker 1>Uh so, Yes, Taylor Swift is in the Super Bowl.
<v Speaker 3>Again, which one? Which one is she supporting?
<v Speaker 1>She supports the Kansas City Chiefs and her boyfriend.
<v Speaker 4>Kennedy definite egos man, you sonic fans the Taylor Swift fans,
<v Speaker 4>which I just I.
<v Speaker 3>Just everyone needs to relax about Taylor Swift.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this one's also for you from Slay mcgonstain and says, greb,
<v Speaker 2>what's your fucking deal.
<v Speaker 3>That's my question.
<v Speaker 1>What's my deal, Tam?
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I like, get buy one, get one free. I
<v Speaker 3>think it's probably your favorite deal.
<v Speaker 4>That's that's pretty good, uh, Toy Soda, Wonder Woman, tell
<v Speaker 4>Tale game with the Last soo of Truth. Sure that
<v Speaker 4>kind of that style game could definitely work.
<v Speaker 3>L but with the truth. Yeah, everyone like this is
<v Speaker 3>the speed run game.
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Ali Miracle asks Tam, how's the workout process going? Looking?
<v Speaker 1>It's going looking philly looking fly looking fly?
<v Speaker 3>I see, Okay, thank you, it's going well. I have
<v Speaker 3>been working out pretty much six days a week, altering
<v Speaker 3>between waits and cardio and then just cardio days. I
<v Speaker 3>also try and go and play basketball on a court
<v Speaker 3>for a bit minimum, burning about one thousand and three
<v Speaker 3>hundred calories a day. So yeah, just trying to keep
<v Speaker 3>it in a consistent I also have been working seeing
<v Speaker 3>a personal trainer every now and then, checking in with
<v Speaker 3>nutritionists that I know to be like hey can I
<v Speaker 3>have this or no? But yeah, I've been doing my best.
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying not to die. I got diabetes, so.
<v Speaker 1>I think you're doing awesome.
<v Speaker 2>Every Instagram, how do I see you in the gym,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like hell.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome, so good work. Dam thank you. Jan
<v Speaker 1>asks how does tam fuel about Jimmy Butler? Oh boy, how.
<v Speaker 3>Much time do we have? First of all, Katie, you
<v Speaker 3>could have come home. Yeah, grow up, Just come home,
<v Speaker 3>win a chip and then go away. You know what
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. I'm extremely sad that we lost Andrew Wiggins
<v Speaker 3>in this trade. Andrew Wiggins I had. I've had the
<v Speaker 3>pleasure of meeting a couple of times, just the nicest
<v Speaker 3>human being you'll ever ever meet. Like he when he smiles,
<v Speaker 3>it like melts your heart. You're like, this guy is
<v Speaker 3>so nice. He had a rough rough time last year
<v Speaker 3>with the unfortunate sickness and passing off his father. He
<v Speaker 3>got a lot of shit for his lack of play
<v Speaker 3>that that season, but it's understandable. But we are playing
<v Speaker 3>atrociously right now. We cannot hold onto a lead. We
<v Speaker 3>keep losing games in the final quarter. The fire is gone.
<v Speaker 3>Every NBA team just triples or doubles Steph Curry and
<v Speaker 3>that is it. That's the end of it. He hasn't
<v Speaker 3>had a comfortable shot in like thirty games at this point.
<v Speaker 3>So getting Jimmy Butler in I think if we get
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Butler, who's locked in, we have a real for
<v Speaker 3>this season, right, Yeah, I think I'm hoping this season
<v Speaker 3>and next season. The thing that is exciting is like
<v Speaker 3>he committed to two years, right right, So he's on
<v Speaker 3>two years technically remaining. Staph's on two years, Draymond's on
<v Speaker 3>two years, and I think Kerr is on a year.
<v Speaker 3>So that is a bunch of people that are motivated.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make it happen now.
<v Speaker 3>Make an impact now. And Jimmy is Jimmy, Like he's
<v Speaker 3>incredible with playoff Jimmy's legendary. So if we can get
<v Speaker 3>to the playoffs, that'll be fantastic. At this point, it's
<v Speaker 3>not looking like we'll even make the play inns. But yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I'm I Also, I'm very aware of the fact that
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy gets up set and when Jimmy gets upset, he
<v Speaker 3>starts acting out. Yep, Jimmy was getting upset and you know,
<v Speaker 3>he got upset at the Miami Heat and this is
<v Speaker 3>now he's unorious. So but he's he's a good he's
<v Speaker 3>a good player. It's a fantastic player. So he's he's
<v Speaker 3>he is I would say like his ability to read
<v Speaker 3>the core is pretty genius. So I'm hoping that he
<v Speaker 3>comes in and is and he's like lights a fire
<v Speaker 3>under a few asses. He's got the same energy as Draymond,
<v Speaker 3>So I'm my only concern is like will they come
<v Speaker 3>to blows or will will the locker room culture change
<v Speaker 3>in any meaningful way? But I don't know he was
<v Speaker 3>He was brought on by a former teammate, which is crazy.
<v Speaker 3>Mike dunleyy played with him.
<v Speaker 2>And now like that's is mad man? Sports are weird
<v Speaker 2>red Wings? Seven games in a row for the second
<v Speaker 2>time in a month basically, so I'm doing pretty good. Ah,
<v Speaker 2>let's see in this one, asked her the oilers going
<v Speaker 2>all the way here? I really think so, So yeah, shout.
<v Speaker 3>Re naming yourself oilism man, grow up.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's like the one thing they had in
<v Speaker 2>Edmonton man back then. Yeah, oil that's it, Okay, And
<v Speaker 2>then let's do this last one from Dougman. What are
<v Speaker 2>you guys excited about at GB for the year. We
<v Speaker 2>had some things in the works as always. I oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there's and there's like excitement. We're going to try to
<v Speaker 2>like do things that kind of force everybody to work
<v Speaker 2>together even more, which I think will only be a positive.
<v Speaker 3>Right. Yeah, there's things happening now that are going to
<v Speaker 3>be very unexpected for a lot of people. But I
<v Speaker 3>think we'll also be things that will make a lot
<v Speaker 3>of sense. Yeah, especially the folks that like John Bomb
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it should. It's a little bit of experimentation,
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of like reading the room and a
<v Speaker 3>little bit of looking around around us to see what
<v Speaker 3>other people are doing, and trying to put it together
<v Speaker 3>into something that's a little more exciting and and you know,
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna ramp up and hopefully grow it from there.
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, yeah, that would be it if you if
<v Speaker 3>you like this show where yes, everyone away creating a
<v Speaker 3>pickleball league.
<v Speaker 1>Man, we should we probably should.
<v Speaker 3>I definitely think that we should. I have been thinking
<v Speaker 3>about GB sports for a really long time. But we
<v Speaker 3>just played a series of different sports and see what
<v Speaker 3>the hell happens?
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that would be fantastic. Acid Net Is GB ever
<v Speaker 2>going to do anything in New Jersey? Not allowed back
<v Speaker 2>there anymore?
<v Speaker 1>All right, pol.
<v Speaker 2>Is, let's see this one's from yesterday. What do you
<v Speaker 2>want most from a new Castlevania? A new two D Castlevania?
<v Speaker 2>Or a new three D trip a blockbuster, and sixty
<v Speaker 2>seven percent said they.
<v Speaker 1>Want a new two D Castlevania.
<v Speaker 2>Now, I think part of that is that's the thing
<v Speaker 2>you trust the most, Like that's the thing that you
<v Speaker 2>think they can actually deliver and like do right by Castlevania.
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think a Casylvania Soulsborn game could
<v Speaker 2>work from Konami.
<v Speaker 3>Even it's not gonna work, I.
<v Speaker 4>Think it could work. No one would you know, tam
<v Speaker 4>about Salsborn games, Soulisburne games.
<v Speaker 3>Nothing. I feel like the two D approaches is the
<v Speaker 3>smartest starting point before going into the three D one again,
<v Speaker 3>you know Mercury's team. I'm playing all the Castle video
<v Speaker 3>games currently simultaneously. It seems I'm playing like Portrait of
<v Speaker 3>Ruin on on on my ambinic device, and I'm also
<v Speaker 3>playing I think Ari of Sorrow. I'm playing on the
<v Speaker 3>the collection on switch, which is those games are good, man,
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing that. I'm playing a what I think of
<v Speaker 3>as a nuzzlock run of Castle Vania, where every time
<v Speaker 3>I encounter a new enemy, I'm not allowed to progress
<v Speaker 3>until I get that enemy's soul. Ohay, is it tests
<v Speaker 3>your patience to say that like people just going back
<v Speaker 3>and forth in between rooms to respoil them and killing
<v Speaker 3>them and trying to.
<v Speaker 1>Get random people who don't know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's I was thinking about
<v Speaker 3>actually streaming it because it's driving me so mad.
<v Speaker 1>That people would love.
<v Speaker 3>Back and forth. I'll give where it's this fucking thing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people love that to watch the streamers.
<v Speaker 3>Dominas collection is on PC right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, every it's everywhere I think collection.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll stream that.
<v Speaker 1>That would be that would be excellent.
<v Speaker 2>Uh all right, let's see her new pole question, or
<v Speaker 2>actually before we get a new pole question, Tam, what
<v Speaker 2>do you have going on?
<v Speaker 1>Where can people find you on the internet? All that
<v Speaker 1>good stuff?
<v Speaker 3>You can find me out to more H everywhere, Twitch
<v Speaker 3>the horrifying you know, must platform, which I try to
<v Speaker 3>use as little as possible. I'm to more H dot
<v Speaker 3>com on Blue Sky, which I try and use more Instagram.
<v Speaker 3>Please follow me there. I'm trying to do some sneaky
<v Speaker 3>ship with don't worry about it, just follow me. Just
<v Speaker 3>everyone follow I need to pump up those numbers for
<v Speaker 3>reasons that are important to my life.
<v Speaker 1>Uh.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've got what we've got going on? What is
<v Speaker 3>my TikTok demolition, Tam. We have UPF today, do we
<v Speaker 3>have a Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna do a Monster Hunter on UPF today. We're
<v Speaker 4>going to do the Beta pole.
<v Speaker 3>Bomb cast is happening.
<v Speaker 1>BombCast is happening, Yes, because.
<v Speaker 3>I Show Speed got fucking destroyed.
<v Speaker 1>It was beautiful thing.
<v Speaker 3>I really like I Show Speed. I know when I
<v Speaker 3>initially started looking at watching I Show Speed, he seemed
<v Speaker 3>like a really annoying one of those shoeople. But it
<v Speaker 3>seems like he's he's kind of mellowed out and and
<v Speaker 3>and become a more entertaining and well balanced person. You know,
<v Speaker 3>he's a he's a good lad and we're seeing him
<v Speaker 3>just get wrecked on the stage in the Royal m
<v Speaker 3>But was very funny, all.
<v Speaker 2>Right, New Paul question take two said g TA six
<v Speaker 2>is still coming this fall. Do you think it will
<v Speaker 2>launch in that window?
<v Speaker 1>Yes or no. We'll get the results of that.
<v Speaker 2>On Game as Mornings on Giant Bomb on Monday, speaking
<v Speaker 2>a Giant Bomb. As Tamp pointed out, we'll have a
<v Speaker 2>power Bomb cast happening. We will have a UPF happening.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go get Monster Hunter working right now. Actually,
<v Speaker 2>I might also yes, I might go play this game
<v Speaker 2>called a game about digging a hole, which I have
<v Speaker 2>no idea what it's about. So I'm gonna go download
<v Speaker 2>it now and find out for myself.
<v Speaker 3>Dan, don't stream snatch a.
<v Speaker 1>Stream?
<v Speaker 3>You know, you know that's a big reading game, right, Uh,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Don't tell I want him to I want him to
<v Speaker 1>play Stature.
<v Speaker 3>It's a huge reading game.
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's koja words, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Like who was just saying they wouldn't know? I think
<v Speaker 2>Jam was saying he wants to play police k notts.
<v Speaker 2>You guys are just in a mood right now.
<v Speaker 3>Should we just do it? Like at we should just
<v Speaker 3>turn this into a series called it the Reading Game series.
<v Speaker 1>Reading Reading Gamebo does that work?
<v Speaker 3>Reading read?
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get out of here. We need to
<v Speaker 2>start the weekend tomorrow. Say thank you so much for
<v Speaker 2>hanging out with me and talk about video games. Man,
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me as always. I hopefully will
<v Speaker 3>I see you next week?
<v Speaker 1>Uh?
<v Speaker 3>You telling me, yes, I'll be here. I'll be here, baby, awesome.
<v Speaker 2>That sounds great. We'll do it again next week. Thank
<v Speaker 2>you everybody for watching and listening. You are the best
<v Speaker 2>audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
<v Speaker 2>take care of yourself and goodbye.