World Series Preview + Susan Slusser on Giants pursuing Tony Vitello

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Speaker 1: Time for a World Series preview. It's powered by MLB Perfect Inning twenty five. So I think we need to start with the roadmap for an upset. The Dodgers are favored. How do the Blue Jays figure out a way to win a series against a team that has four number one starters and just dusted the top record in the sport.

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Speaker 2: It was not a good series.

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Speaker 1: It was an entertaining series on an individual game by game basis. But Tod Father, if you're on the Blue Jays, how do you crack the Dodgers' pitching staff?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you got to think of it another way. How do you keep putting pressure pitching wise? I think it's going to come down to the Blue Jays pitching. They got to find a way to stop these guys from scoring. I think that's the way you got to go about it. The Dodgers put up a lot of runs, and guess what, they find ways to put pressure on teams. I think the Blue Jays staff is the number one thing they gotta do because they can hit. We know they can eventually hit. They've done it before and they play well in close games. So if they can find a way, they're pitching staff to keep them at bay three four five runs going into the seventh d eighth inning, I think they'll have a chance. And I think that's the biggest thing they have to worry about, is keeping those batters at bay. And if they can do that, we know that eventually they're gonna those bats are gonna come alive. But it's got to be right from Jump Street and again, whoever they start in the beginning, they got to ride that wave a little bit and keep going. So if they can keep the hitters at bay, they're gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, we're showing some of the starters for the Dodgers, like Almamoto and Glass now right now, Toronto makes contact.

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Speaker 2: So did the Bruers.

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Speaker 1: But Toronto's got a lot more slug and star power in there with guys like Springer and Vladdie and even here, I'll bring up a good example because he's been my favorite to watch it the plate. Ernie Clement as a four percent k rate in the postseason and his slogan percentage just six something. I mean, that's the kind of guy that he needs to keep doing what he's doing. I mean, he's top to strike out and he'll rack doubles for you.

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Speaker 4: Here's how the Blue Jays win this series. They survive against the starting pitchers of the Dodgers and their starters match and then they get into the bullpen because guess Roki and Vessio. But if they can get some of these guys out early and make them get to some of the other guys that haven't been as good, that's their shot. Because if you're just gonna let snell Yamamoto glass now and show hey goes six seven innings, you're gonna be in trouble because that means one they're doing well, you're not hitting two. That means Dave Roberts can use to use Vessi and Sazaki a lot in the bullpen try to figure it out from there. So I think the key to this is how well do the Blue Jays starters match the Dodger starters, because I think both teams are going to score some runs yep, and I feel like both bullpens will have some hits and some misses. But if the Blue Jays starters can match the Dodger stars give them a chance. I think if they can knock them out every once in a while early that's their shot. Then you get the Sheans, and you get some other guys that just aren't as as not as good, but as I don't know good in the bullpen, right, I don't know. That to me seems like the key.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you're the Blue Jays, how do you prevent the Dodgers starters from going so deep into games?

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Speaker 4: Fell off a bunch of pitches, don't strike out a lot because but don't also have first pitch out. So they do do that too, that's my question.

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Speaker 2: They do early. They're swinging team.

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Speaker 1: The Brewers aren't. Actually the Brewers aren't contact team. But what made them unique this season was that they don't chase. They were one of the best walks chase right whatever, throw it all out the window. For the last series, all of that was gone. They were swinging, chasing at great secondary stuff. But how did the Blue Jays do this? Because often like, what was the one game where they really got said? It was a Game three. Everything they were doing was that then the first three pitches. So it works great if it works the ball's falling in the right spot. If not, I mean you might look up and be like, damn, even glass now is at fifty pitches through five innings.

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Speaker 2: What do you do? I just hope that the ball falls in the right spot.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Listen, I don't know what you do, Listen. I think I think it's gonna be a tough series for the Blue Jays, I do. I think the Dodgers are just a better team one through twenty six. And that's the problem that every team is run into. With the Dodgers, That's why I've had them number one of my power rankings since day one. Claudia, Hey, I think I think they can get a couple of games, though. I think that if they can get it, if they win Game one and put some pressure on the Dodgers and go to La and maybe steal one here and there and get it back to Toronto like they did for six and seven, this crowd's gonna go crazy. So that that's kind of how you have to do. You have to strike early, steal a game somehow, someone hits a home run late, or the Dodgers make an error or something and they steal a game, maybe steal a base or two. I think one thing that the Jays can do, and they don't do a ton of this is they can run on the Dodgers. I feel like glass now Snell you can run a little bit, and especially when their Suzaki comes in you get guys on you can run. So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And he was pushed away by the Twins. Right Twins, let him go. He's there.

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays play have talked him up a ton like. I heard one quote from I think it was Varshow this series, who said, let me give you the difference in the past, the way our hitting instruction and coaching staff was set up. If I had to make a mechanical tweak, it would take me weeks, if not months, to get back on track now it's days and that he lets everybody be themselves. So with all of that being said, if you're a Blue Jays hitter and he says, hey, be yourself, if you're a swinger, you're not going to be like, Okay, well, I want to get deep into account every ab against this starter because we want to get them out of the game and get to the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're going to keep just playing the way that you play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if that's being ready first pitch for a pitch you're looking for, it's ready to attack. And I think that's a great concept. I've had coaches like that, We're not going to tinker with anything. Really, maybe something in your mindset, what you're looking for. Are you looking out over, you're looking in, what types of pitches you're looking for. You don't necessarily need to tinker with somebody's stance all the time and footing and everything else. You need to get in their mindset. And I think I think that's one of the biggest parts that people need to understand, Like you're getting lessons from somebody, you don't need to revamp or change anything. You need to change their mindset of thinking, do what you do best. Let's let's figure out what you do best as a hitter, and whatever is the stuff that's you can't do best at let's lay off of that until two strikes. Be you, go out there and that's what got us there. For the Toronto Blue Jays, be you, and let's focus on what's God is there and go out there and win a championship.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I feel like we've at least painted somewhat of a roadmap for the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 2: What about for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just be the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Just be the Dodgers. Just do exactly what you've been doing to a t go out and play. Is there is there a weakness to exploit Blue Jays?

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Speaker 4: The bullpen, it's the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: It's John Schneiner might do it differently this round.

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna have to use lefties.

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Speaker 2: Use lefties.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that you need to get more creative with I mean, I know I talked about this on the postgame show last night. Like Basset, maybe Gossman pitches an inning or two on a throw day, you don't think that you think that's that's doing too much Nope.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 1: Roster, Gosman's going game one or two. Right, it's either Gosman or your savage. I gotta look at what the you know, how many days it's been. But probably a savage, right, because Gosmin.

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Speaker 4: He's got three days, so he's got plenty of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But but my point is goss and you savage, you might look at a little bit differently. But but Gossman's veteran guy and on a long term deal and knows how to take care of himself. He's been in the league for a minute.

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Speaker 2: I do think he pitches game one or two. In between that and his next start, he could give you an inning or two.

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Speaker 1: I know it wasn't beautiful last night, right, he got himself in a little bit of trouble. But if that's what it takes, because you don't have confidence in some of the other guys, like I'm okay with that. You know, if the splitter is the equalizer against the Dodgers in a certain pocket of the lineup, and it's his throw day. When they said he throws thirty plus pitches on his throw.

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Speaker 2: Day, give me in an inning.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the first time this has been done often top either Patrick Corbyn for the twenty nineteen Nats.

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Speaker 2: When did the Red Sox win eighteen? It was Purcella.

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Speaker 1: It was three of them that we all saw right that were coming out of the bullpen on throw days and people were like, oh, hell, score a brilliant whatever. It's like, Yeah, veteran guys on their throat day are giving you an inning.

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Speaker 2: And they were fine.

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Speaker 3: I think it all matters of where they are in the series. If they're down, yeah, of course, if they're doing well, I don't necessarily think you should bring them in. You should save them for the opportunity to come in either Game five or Game six. What might have you there? So I think, yes, I love that decision. I think that's great. If you're down too, well, oh there's no holds bars. You're going out and doing whatever you think you can to find a.

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Speaker 4: Way to win.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And I'm with you on the home field part.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Dodgers went to and one against some Snell dealt against them this year already kershawb Scherzer in that game, famous game this year and the third game the Blue Jay's bet to Dodgers late.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Snell one makes sense.

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Speaker 1: The Suzer Kershaw one, I mean, Kershaw is probably not going to be much of a factor, and Max is a different Max. If you see that Max, that Max can work for forty. Right, you need just one of those as as your bridge, as your pivot later in the series to get through the back end of the rotation and win.

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Speaker 2: A game four.

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Speaker 1: You are relying on some experience there. That's actually a big part of this is Max and Bieber.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to get?

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Speaker 4: Bieber needs to have the good stuff, not the stuff he had last night though. That's stuff he had last night. It wasn't good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to work against the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen two bad and one good from Bieber other one. Is there any way to like it's just an inconsistency thing when you're coming off surgery.

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Speaker 4: Actually, just keep talking about it.

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Speaker 1: I guess extra rest does that make any difference. He's gonna get a lot of rest, right, He's gonna have eight or nine days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, over a week.

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Speaker 4: He starts game three when he pitched Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Since she's gonna have a week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's next Monday. I think that's probably good. Okay, I don't know, but.

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Speaker 4: I'm fascinated about how you Savage does against the Dodgers. M. I haven't seen him. You know, America is actually handled him pretty well.

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Speaker 2: First start.

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Speaker 1: They really handled him well. So he also didn't have his good splitter in that first Yeah, it's a field pitch, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. It's gonna be fascinating with his angle and they've never seen it. I don't know. We'll see how it does.

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Speaker 2: Dogers are really good at laying off pitches.

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Speaker 4: Dodgers are really good. Rogers get strikeouts. Blue Jays don't strike out. A lot of interesting matchups in this series. A lot of blue too. If you like blue, this is your series.

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Speaker 1: And here's the one thing I will say for those that are putting out, Oh, the Blue Jays can rescue baseball.

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Speaker 2: Shut up. That is way too much.

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Speaker 1: If the Dodgers win again, like, stop it, that is ridiculous. The Dodgers paeril is like four hundred ish and the Blue Jays perils like two eighty or something like. Stop First of all, yeah, they're two teams that that definitely spend tod father. But let's not act like if the Dodgers went back to back World Series titles, the sport is broken forever. It's just it felt this way last year with Yankees and Dodgers. It's like, we never get a matchup like that and we can't just enjoy it one time.

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Speaker 2: We never get a matchup.

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Speaker 1: Like that, and everyone's like, ah, this is just like the two big teams.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it never happens.

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Speaker 1: And having won that much over the past, you know, a few decades, right, the Yankees dynasty is a long time ago at this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And if you're a president or GM or one of those guys and the Dodgers do win, it's like, Okay, maybe I need to start spending a little more to get this, get my team going, and stuff like that. And there's nothing wrong with that. They had an opportunity to get guys, and guys said, you know what, if you're gonna pay me, I'm coming over, and I'd like my opportunities here. The end goal as a baseball player, Number one is to win the World Series. Number two is to provide for your family, of course, but you want to I mean you can flip flop that too as well. I mean, family always comes first. But as a baseball guy, when you're playing, you want to win a World Series and you want to take care of your family, so they both kind of go together. So yeah, if you're gonna pay me, that's great. I can provide for my family and have the best opportunity to win a World Series. So why doesn't every president try and do that? We don't know that answer. So it's just part of baseball. And if the Dodgers win, I think it's fine for baseball too. If you don't like or play better that old adage that's all or get better players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Freddy Freeman has been incredible for them during his Dodgers' tenure. He's not a five hundred million dollar player. He's a player anybody could have signed. Mookie anyone could have traded for Initially. First of all, the Red Sox also are a big, big, big market, and they somehow felt like he was He was a cast.

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Speaker 2: Monty was a castle.

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Speaker 4: Will Smith they signed, Yeah, anyone could have had Kek Yep. Tay Oscar was signed a one year deal last year. Andy PaaS was an international free agent. That Gil Rojas was, you know, does not make it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Tanner Scott and Kirby Yates, which everyone was freaking out about towards the end of Blast season.

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Speaker 2: Complete non factors, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to act like they don't have resources, but they're doing it smarter than everyone else.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the resources. There are other teams.

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Speaker 4: They traded for Glass. They traded for Glass, and obviously they were able to sign him, but they traded for him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Me's.

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Speaker 1: Have spent almost as much as them. They did not participate in the twenty twenty five postseason, so anyway, I don't think it ruins baseball.

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Speaker 2: That is way too much.

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Speaker 2: Work to do. Susan.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you, and I'll start with this your shock factor when you saw Tony Botello as the main man leading away to manage the San Francisco Giants and as of us doing this this second, it's not done, but it does sound like it's heading towards that direction.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, Andy Baggerley from the Athletic has been mentioning Tony Vitello quite a lot, in fact most really ever since this job opened up. So am I surprised, yes? Shocked? No, because we knew that the name was out there there. I think there are some family connections with Tennessee University of Tennessee. Obviously, the Giants have taken or acquired some Tennessee players, including Blade Tied Wallen. Of course, Drew Gilbert is on the big league team, so they definitely have some interest in those kinds of guys. It's stunning in that he has no pro experience, neither playing nor coaching. That's virtually unheard of. But we know Buster Posey's bold, right. I pulled off the Devers deal six weeks before the trade deadline out of nowhere, so I think this potentially is another big swing from Buster Posey.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what's the connection between Buster, Posey, and Tony. I tried to find one along the way. You mentioned Tennessee. Buster went to Florida State. Is there something I'm missing here that they're so connected and they have a relationship from.

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Speaker 6: I believe someone in his wife's family has a Tennessee connection. So yeah, there's that. But also you know that in baseball, you know what a small world it is. Aja everybody knows everybody, and when you're talking to you know they took a player from Tennessee. When you were talking two players in the draft who are from a school, you get to know pretty much everyone there. Now, this is Buster's first year as the top baseball executive, but you know, he's got a huge bunch of people in the front office helping him who have experience. I certainly think that Jeff Barry knows probably everyone at Tennessee. After a long career of being an agent. Zach Manzien's obviously been in numerous front offices and probably as well acquainted with everyone there. I think they like the job he's done there. You can't argue with the success that he's had. I have seen some people kind of compare this a little bit to Gabe Kapler two point zero. You know, somebody younger and very outside the box. Uh, so we'll see, you know that maybe they're in one of those we swing from the younger guy outside of the box to the older, more established manager to the younger guy again. But this this one is very bold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not along those lines. Do you think a college manager can translate to a professional manager at the major league level without really any experience coaching at that level?

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Speaker 6: You know, it just hasn't. It's been done so rarely. Everybody talks about, you know, Pat Murphy, but he had coached for for a while in the minors, you know, certainly, you know, and he'd been on staff, so you know, go back to Bobby Winkle maybe, and even he had had time on a big league staff. So so it's really just such an unknown. If you're a team that has a lot of young players, maybe, but the Giants aren't all young players. They do have five guys who are on long term contracts who are more veteran guys, but they are say, take Matt Chapman. He really took to Drew Gilbert. You know, Drew Gilbert's a very sort of raw rye, you know, collegiate type player, and he showed that tons of personality, loads of enthusiasm, and Chapman loved that. You know that as the team kind of faltered a little bit down the stretch, I think some of that stuff maybe got put aside. Drew Gilbert, to his credit, didn't haul out the raw ras stuff when the team was playing poorly. But maybe that is something that a team that has struggled to kind of be consistent for a few years could use as a little more energy, some more enthusiasm. I don't know if that. I've never met Tony Vittello. I walked past him once when the Giants played the Rockies this year. I really should have stopped and introduced myself. Guys kind of whipped all that one. But yeah, he's he's got a big personality. You always wonder sometimes how that plays in a big league clubhouse, especially with somebody that has no pro experience of any kind. If you've got a big, big, big personality to go along with that, there's the potential that it could rub some veterans the wrong way.

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Speaker 4: Sure, that was gonna be my question, how do we think this is going to go? Because he's never had to answer. When you're the head coach of a collegey you have an ad and but if you're doing well, they just kind of let you do your own thing. They don't really have to answer to anybody. Well, here, he's got owners, he's got buster, he's got GMS, he's got players. A lot of times you have to answer to how's he going to deal with not being like the big man on campus? Because in college, you know, college football coaches are the man. College basketball coaches, college baseball coaches, they control their Oh you don't like this, guess what, transfer, We'll find somebody else. So there's a million people you can find. Big leagues don't work like that. You have a select few people you can get. So how's Tony going to adapt to being not the head guy in charge?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's all sorts of things. The so much more media right that that's going to be a huge difference too. I think he's very good with the media. It certainly seems like fans so many more fans, and the fans are going to be as skeptical, I think, as we're going to hear from a lot of the media. So he's going to have to deal with a lot. He's going to have an enormous amount on his plate. The thing I'm more curious about is who winds up being the bench coach. Do you need somebody who's very experienced in that spot? And if so, is that do you sort of feel like, if you're Tony Vittello, is there's somebody looking over my shoulder all the time. Do I have to worry that if I, you know, we go into a long losing streak, that suddenly I'm going to get replaced by somebody who's got some former managing experience. I you know, I would have had the same question probably if it had been somebody like Nick Huntley, who was the early front runner before he withdrew his name for family reasons. And I think still might be potentially somebody that the Padres are looking at. So there's so many different aspects to this. It's absolutely fascinating. We're gonna be able to write about this all off season, which I guess is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: You answered that question too. I was gonna bring up Nick Huntley, But how about the other coaching staff? Have you heard of any wind about what might be? Is there going to be a whole new revamp of everybody pretty much, or is there going to be a couple of guys that you still know about? Have you heard anything?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's going to be interesting, because the Giant said when they let go Bob Melvin and Matt Williams and Ryan Christensen both immediately told me that they are leaving with him. But otherwise, the Giant said that they will recommend the rest of the coaching staff to whoever the new manager is. Now. I would assume that Tony Vitello has, you know, at least somebody or a couple of guys that he would like to bring in, but they are going to need some experience. I thought JP Martinez and Garvin Alston, the pitching coach and the assistant pitching coach, were fantastic last year. It's really tough to argue with what the job the Giants pitchers did overall. I really hope they're back. I think the Giants hitting coaches did a good job, you know, with you know a lot of things kind of going against them at times. So I don't know, I don't know how that's going to go at all, But to me, it's that bench coach spot that's going to be really in the you know, they're going to need some experience. There's just not a ton of older coaches there.

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Speaker 4: So there's enough about the new manager. Let's let's talk about the team this year, and let's talk Buster. How would you rate Buster's first year on the job, including if this does go down, which everyone is kind of is expecting it to happen, how would you rate his first year on the job as president of baseball as well?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's I really would probably give him a solid A because of the Dever's trade and doing that so early and out of nowhere and giving up not a ton to get such a great player. The one stumble that was understandable at the time was trading to experienced relievers just before the team got hot, which obviously you don't have a crystal ball, you don't know. They got very good value in return for those relievers and Tyler Rodgers and Community Duval, but they then went on a tear. But the bullpen had so little, you know, very young guys pitching in different spots that really hurt them down the stretch. I think that they were a much better team than they were that final month of the season, but the bullpen really struggled, so I still give him an a. I really I think all the moves he made at the time were very good, and the offseason moves too were very good. So he's doing well. I mean, this is probably his biggest test to date. So you know, let's get back in another year. Let's reconfer on a grade for Buster.

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Speaker 4: That's really good.

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Speaker 3: That's really good. He's a stud. I'm talking about free agents now, where they resign any guys and do you see them getting after it a top free agents in the market, because they always seem to be involved, you know what I mean, And they always seem to get one or two guys, but it's always that man, why couldn't we get this person? Do you see this team in the same direction going in a free agency or do you see this team kind of you know, maybe holding back a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think they're really going to want to know what happens with a lot of guys who either have team options or potentially are tied to qualifying offers. Kyle Tucker, I think is a guy who would they would definitely have interest in if he is somebody who is available on the market and they need another back, they absolutely need another bat, but almost all of those guys either have team options, player options, or qualifying offer potential, so we shall see. They'd very much like to bring back Justin Verlander. I think the ball is in Verlander's court on that one. He's pitching it a great ballpark. I mean, we know why he went there, right, you know, he's trying to get to three hundred wins. Great ballpark, good defense, and he pitched really well, particularly in the second half, really well, so he's going to get offers. But the record was absolutely not what he wanted. So I don't know quite how he looks at that. Does the manager decision or what they do with pitching coach, does that potentially affect it. I don't know. If he leaves, they also need a veteran starter. There are going to be a lot on the market. I certainly know when Bob Melvin was still the manager, you would looked at, say Sonny Gray, who absolutely has the best relationship with with Bob Melvin and would have loved to come there. He's got to you know, obviously he can decline trades, but I think you know, a year in a good ballpark for pictures with you know, Matt Chapman played behind him. He knows what that's like. That's fantastic for pretty much any picture. I think he's somebody that could make a trade for if the asking price isn't too high. So they've got a lot of options there. But they definitely will need a veteran picture of some sort, and they need a bat another bat somehow.

00:29:35
Speaker 1: And the thing that I think Giants fan should be excited about is the fact that they'll get that done because Posey in year one already has talked his bosses into doing a lot of things that it was not as easy to do in the past.

00:29:47
Speaker 2: Right, he's clearly got cachet.

00:29:48
Speaker 1: Even in this manager situation, Susan Tony Vattello is not coming over for a million bucks a year, right, He's going to be a more expensive manager. Buster's spending on Dever's and a damis and that'll continue. So I think Giants fan should be excited about that part. Clearly he's got some say. But appreciate the time. We're gonna obviously talk more about this. We'll wait till it's official, but thanks for hopping on with us, and appreciate the time.

00:30:13
Speaker 6: As always, fantastic Thanks US