Omar Epps on NEW FILM ‘Moses the Black,’ Tupac in ‘Juice’ & ALL-TIME Black performances

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Speaker 1: By the way, my brothers, whoever got the number the new don't do it. I'm ready to block you, no matter how much I love you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Y'all. See what y'all See what happened? They got the Netflix still Joe Man, Holly World, This this what up? Y'artist? Joe cracked the dog. You know what it is, your boy, Jada, you know what it is?

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Speaker 3: Did Joe and jadas show every show legendary, every show iconic?

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Speaker 1: Shut out the Netflix. We crushing y'all, niggas ah.

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Speaker 3: When you think of today's guests, hold on, that was Netflix they called me. When you think of today's guests, you think of a cold classic, a part of a cold classic in every the error. You think of long range, you think of chops. You think he can play a police officer. He can play under he can play a detective. He can go under Colt, he can play at Colle. Out of the bat, he can play a doctor. He can play anything. If you're around our age, you've seen you. You grew with him to DJ a great family man. He could play a living legends. I've seen him in the hall way on tour, in the dressing room, kicking with him, you know what I mean, Ladies and gentlemen makes some noise for omar Ad.

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Speaker 1: You know, Omar you one of them. Guys. Man, there's not enough to say about you because just like me and Kiss, we grew up watching you on the movie screen for all of our careers. So it's just's no way to roll it out perfectly because we would be here for like a fucking day just explaining, you know, your contributions to the culture and the game.

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Speaker 4: But definitely I grew up with y'all. Appreciate that set, CDs, all of that, you know what I mean. So we was all that in that generation. It was all coming up together, kids with dreams. You know what I'm saying. We are born and bred, you know what I mean. We covered all the bases. The show, right to me is it's almost like a sitcom. So I told him the other day.

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Speaker 1: But he ain't half fluidity. He was under the weather. I was like, yo, you know, Netflix just started a podcast thing and and big up everybody. But I watched all the other podcasts a little fifteen minutes. They ain't got the fluided, They ain't got on war FC it fuck is shining in the Three Beasts to what it set with it. I looked at all of them, and there's some great people on there, but I'm hoping that you're a random customer. Don't got nothing to do on Netflix and they love podcasts and the one time they go boom, they know yo, this ship like the Martin Now y'all y'all killing them. I think I heard you more.

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Speaker 4: I've been watching y'all from the top, and I think one time you said like, yeah, y'all, like the Honeymoon is and I was like, Nah, it's like the Eye.

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Speaker 1: It's the odd couples, like the Eye couple. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It's like the odd couple because y'all you know, we know y'all, Like I said, we grew up with y'all.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, everybody else, how's that going rock? You know what I mean? And y'all just you just can't be there. It's so organic, it's so authentic, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And it's just to have these conversations and we all don't seen so much, like been around so many different moments that you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's the show itself. It's this guy like Jay read Man, shoot me every shot. When I go home and watch the repeat like you, I said, mother fuck this, don't snipe me from the get that on the way off.

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Speaker 3: You iconic for the fact your skill and your ability to be on screen and you know the roles you range. You got to work with hellu, you got to work with Pop? What was them days filming Juice? Like I was, I was bak filming Juice was incredible. Man.

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Speaker 1: I was seventeen, specially out of high school, and he was wearing these I was making. I'm saying you was wearing below but you know, getting like in a sense, it happened so fast that it was hard to take in the magnitude of But I will say I felt something special in the sense of the film characters, those moments were speaking to me. I was living that.

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Speaker 4: I felt like, oh yeah, this is like us on the block. So it just felt like I would go see this, you know what I mean, and just like Pop, it's funny because it's like nothing not funny, but like this is.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't the.

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Speaker 4: Tupac everybody, No, he was just Pop just like he was Tupac after that movie. He was But he was like Oh that's my man, and like, you know what I mean, you cooking up doing a music thing, spending versus in the trailer.

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Speaker 1: But he was him. I was like, Yo, that dude got he got something different. I mean, and at l ll I'm sitting here, I'm like, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Like you're just sitting down, chopping up, just talking, just giving me you know, business knowledge and things of that nature. And we you know, it's it's interesting now you got all these lists and if this and this that, and it's just like, yo, you've never seen nothing like you know.

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Speaker 1: I think people don't realize how young he was when in Bieber Facts. But I say that all the time. You get mad at me. He's my idol with every.

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Speaker 3: Time, the first artist on Death Jim, and he's still going to wrong and fucking powerful and active as ever.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying to you is, I'm a couple of years older than you, and I was outside. Again, I'm a couple of years older than your death and I was outside and I've never seen that lo cool Jake as well. I've seen Big Daddy came, I seen nice and Strong. I've seen all of them. You couldn't even see ll cool Jake. He was like justin Bieber. He popped up so young. Nas used to be like that. For me. It took me man years Nas, I didn't see nothing. No, I was with now when I started. I started with him. I got fitted took me. I've been in funny hotels with Nazi. I've been in bummy hotels with Nas. Talk about Yo, that you think not just to be like, yo, we ever seeing the money gone? I'm like, Yo, you nomadic, don't worry it's gonna come. He be like, yo, god like he ain't no fluinity in this look winter end. No, I was seeing not that. What about Uh, Chris and I play ball? She Yetta, she had both for that. She had two for that movie. Yeah, she had to.

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Speaker 4: We was training and all of that, working with these coaches and you know, to hit a shot when the license on his hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the gym is easy.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, he was really filming and ice schools and all that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, crowds are at the ball game. You don't care. Take twenty three, y'all. You know what I mean. It's like, Yo, we're filming something. Man supposed to miss the classic Dog. Yeah. How about the Wood? How is that all filming that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole boss. Now twenty six balls for they kill You? I wasn't you got on the title of the movie. Nah, that ship Polly, They're gonna get Inglewood. Say, how is it feeling ingle with Anglewood? Inglewood? Is it? Non? Balls? But the Wood? I think that was like a mature.

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Speaker 4: Version of like the Brotherhood, you know what I mean, Like like you know, they were still from the Mud, but like doing different things.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was a dolt depiction of that version of Brotherhood. And uh, that was fun. Man. Now you got you did about seven eight years on the House. That's the doctor? How is that you just because you get to House and stuff like that. They not cast casting. But that's a.

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Speaker 4: Big part of the reason I wanted to do House is because I'm like, they're not gonna see this coming, because I was aware, or at least in my mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they probably have seen me like this. They think I can only do this. I'm gonna go make this left right here and bring us with me, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like when I first did House, the one when I was first meeting with them.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yo, it's like, yo, is anything you want the character? You like this, that and the other. And I was like, I want them to keep.

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Speaker 4: Attached to hand because he's from rough and tumbling all this, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was for little kids that look like us. It was like a dog whistle to the like, yo, you could have the white.

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Speaker 4: Jackets too, Because the power of imagery is it's different from the power of voice, like audio.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like all that is so powerful. Man. When we do I feel like we breoled some SAgs.

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Speaker 4: But like you know, listening to a song a fighter before the fight, like yo, it's getting them amp or the ball player before the game. Or you know, when we listen to a song, we sad it put you in a certain move. You can hear a song and smell your grandmother cooking, and you know what I mean, Like the these type of things. So what we do we need we know the power of it, and the younger generation need to know that it's not disposable.

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Speaker 1: It's not just for the dollar. You know what I'm saying, It's much more powerful. You know, it's crazy because my mother she passed away recently. If she was alive right now, she'd be right by the TV listening to the Temptations and the Ojs and all that. And I ain't been able to listen to that kind of music since she passed because it just automatically puts you in that space where I've been, Like, you know what I'm saying. My wife tried to throw that shit on the other day. I was like, Yo, I ain't ready to hear that shit right now, but you will be one day. But you just said you ain't ready. But you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Like we be so caught up in the hustle, the business of it, but it's a whole other side to this thing.

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Speaker 1: That the reason why we all got in.

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Speaker 4: But I really spoke to us, motivated us from when we're young like I and then we find you gotta lean with that thing, you know what I mean. I'll tell you what I've been doing this thirty years. It's just a blessing every day.

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Speaker 1: Man. Let me tell you something. You look great. Thank you your wife's sister. What is the skin remedy for you guys today? Because your ship looking brand new? Boys? You your wife is a different fluidity. Are you all like, wake up every game? They got a special shape, buddy. Do y'all do pilates at yoga in the house. Everybody like, what's going on? Taking care of yourself for me? You know, listen, wife, you man, just being happy, being happy and got a.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful family, beautiful kids, you know what I'm saying, and the constant state of gratitude and.

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Speaker 1: You know's take care of myself.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to the new movie Moses the Black that some black Yeah, Moses Black Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this.

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Speaker 4: It's a story about a man who comes to an impact of his life where he realizes he has to become the.

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Speaker 1: Thing that he's right and that's the character I played Elik.

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Speaker 4: And he gets out of prison and he realizes something has to change, he has to become the change. And its juxtapos against the story of the true story of Moses the Black, the Ethiopian who was a saint, and how their story is parallel. So the Moses the Black from fourth century, he was he was the real Robin Hood Like he was a super gangster, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I mean.

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Speaker 4: And then he had a moment where he shifted and went on to evolve to a point to where he's a saint, like going churches around the world. They got the picture of the open man like along with all the other saints that we know right there. So it's kind of like how their stories is running parallel.

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Speaker 1: It's different. It was different.

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Speaker 3: What was it like working with Kwewo that was dope man, Waeo was dope with Shill.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: The thing is like for us again when I say like storytellers, people always oh rapping this, I'm telling it's just a different format, you know what I mean. And it's the type of project that I feel like everybody that was dead was there for the right reason, so they were open to the process, you know what I'm saying. So it was just dope to see them do their thing, you know, like we're it's done some stuff before.

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Speaker 1: But some of them was just getting the feet. But that's not a poor man because I know, y'all super poor. It's cool. Are you sure? Shut it? You know, I started, I started in this y'all arena. I was like, y'all, I don't play that poor ship. Now. I'm you know, the poors king throwing flags every ten seconds. It's just a strange. It's it's fun as a game, but we can't do that.

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Speaker 4: Everybody like, guys, come on, guys, it's just it's just.

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Speaker 1: The English language. My good, they do it.

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Speaker 3: It's just I really shut out to Cam, shut out to everybody that started it. I really never want to play. But sometimes some of the things people say it like it's coach from the heavens above is like Jesus crazy.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's a lot of it's a lot of lyrics from back in the days.

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Speaker 1: Oh tell me about it. I'm just saying, if you want to go there in to that it be a whole you know you can.

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Speaker 3: It would be that it's never hidden, or if you die your research, it can go on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: No, no, that's crazy if you go to the back in the day's lyrics. But the culture don't change. The slang change. So let me ask you to who baby, I like you? Bro? Is that like a pause? Like mania? I say, how falls that just like crazy?

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Speaker 3: We just knew oh dB was crazy, so that that went perfect with his persona.

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Speaker 1: But in finish, anybody like it wrong.

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Speaker 3: Fact up, one that's really from somewhere in the Bible is reworded.

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Speaker 1: That's that's in there. This is it. They just put it different, you know, the actors and industry and shout out. My sister Tiana, she called me yesterday, shout out, she got you, she got me, She got you. You're fluid. You see how your brother? Yeah, come on, man, don't do that. She got your fluidity. You know what I'm saying. The guy on me, he got me. I'm like, if I go to CBS, I got him with I swear to god, they think I got Jada. Does that happen to you now? On the street they think I got Jada kissed with me. I'm in the CBS. I could be in the show Jaya. Where's Joe? Joe little fucking smoke cigars just ringing the moviewhere. I'm like, yo, bro, he's home. He's doing this thing. Like what are y'all asking for? What? That came my way?

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Speaker 3: If I ever call you a FaceTime I charged the five thousand.

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Speaker 1: You want to see joahs your crack? I mean, I'll let you somebody there. They gave me five. It's my number for the first time in thirty years, not because I was getting threats or nothing like that. What happened to me was I had friends that I truly love, that I love that I grew up with this stuff like that. Still have my number and anytime they would call me at any time of the day and it's always face tied be like, yo, I told you he's here. I hate that shit like no, no, it's a pet peeve. Like By the way, my brothers, whoever got the number the new don't do it. I'm ready to block you, no matter how much I love you. I don't know. You see what ye see what happened they got the Netflix? Still show me Hollywood this That's not what I'm saying. I figure.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, don't FaceTime nobody with no surprises.

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Speaker 1: Chef Mark my brother, one of my true with friends, my best friends in the world. Don't go to the random restaurant and bring out the chef on that I might be topless, yo, you know that. You know, let's say that fly. You know, Puerto Rican's real top You call any of your Puerto Rican homies in the house. They never got a shirt on even when I call them. I'm keeping it real with you. They topless, right, So, but your chef, you know it's like one of my best friends on earth. When I ain't have a dollar. He you know, he's always been there for me. I love him at depth of your chef. Stop like, y'all gotta stop calling me with yo. I don't want that. That's one thing I'm not.

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Speaker 4: The face sounds being Trueive, I feel you on that depending that a just.

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Speaker 3: Call me, but you on the side of the road with it. No face time it should be unless it's something. Face time is great, but at the same time it ain't.

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Speaker 1: It eliminates the mystery right Like It's like, you can't disappear no more like that right right? You could have disappeared right You could have told somebody, yo, I'm in Miami. You could be down the block. They can't see you right now. I was like, Yo, my man, what's up with the palm tree? Like they know that's why you can't all that location. You can fake it though, go right by the speaker. Let me can't cool with a white background. That's crazy. That's the one thing my wife hates about this set is the fake palm trees. Every time she bought to she be like, man, I'm fake palm trees. I'd be like, yo, ma, we need some fluid it motherfucker. We get real. It's a fields. My shit is if it ain't broke, don't fix fix sh it.

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Speaker 3: We out here least he COMPLI minute the set when he came, You're like, yo, this you know, listen, we expla ain't suning you man.

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Speaker 1: Nah, I don't want to go back. O. Myams came in clean and all that. Don't don't this executive. You know I'm crazy, man, y'all strike this executive produced about fifty Yeah, yeah, bout fifty myself for real. That's beautiful. One of my one of my questions was Black Hollywood in like the nineties. What was that like out there? Who was coming up?

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Speaker 4: And I mean everybody you could think of me, you know, the friends kind fives. It was a beautiful time, you know what I'm talking about? Like, Yo, it was so much love back. Everybody had they little beef or whatever, but it was I just remember so much love back in the day. Unity, unity, like real unity, Like everybody was just fat Joe in the early nineties was in the Qualm May video.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a bit. They called me up and be like, yo, come, I come talking about I'm just saying I was bro when I came in the game. It was about love. It was about everybody jumping in everybody's video, everybody loving each other, supporting each other, and this and somewhere where he's trying to say, I could tell you a hip hop. It all started when people actually started making money. That's when that ego turned into like, y'all, I'm better than you. I'm bigger than you. My shit bigger. Our crew is more rugged we got. As soon as they started handing over that bag, I watched the nicest pedestrians turn into gang bangers, all type of things. I'm like, oh, this shit crazy. That's like, I guess it's a part of the process, right.

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Speaker 4: I think when the bag comes into anything, then you get to see, you know, characters, you know people Gotta give them a chance to grow and evolve too, because it's something you.

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Speaker 1: Speak about a lot, and I'm like, I relate to that.

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Speaker 4: Like I've been around, I've seen I was young, so a lot of the older heads don't remember.

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Speaker 1: That was me, the quiet kid in the corner. I've seen you do that.

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Speaker 4: I've seen this, I've seen that, and I'm just taking notes the whole time. And I've seen people talk to certain people or treating but a certain way. Look up for four years they running that company and they treat Reezy and you wondering why I'm sitting there like that's right because you used to shop on that person or whatever the case. So it's just you know, you learned living learning, and you know, for the younger generation, they baggings. It's almost like it's not fair. It's like it's sports, right. We happy for them, but it ain't fair. But I'm saying it ain't we happy form, but it ain't fair. It ain't fit in them because if you're.

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Speaker 1: Coming in eighteen nineteen.

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Speaker 4: You know too much money that like when you're doing five hundred show, seven hundred show, you you're like you can feel the weight of what or earning.

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Speaker 1: If somebody just come off top, like yo, here's a hundred milon see.

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Speaker 3: You're a teenager or whatever.

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Speaker 1: He I mean, we just that that lineage. We never had that we could play Moses Black. But if we wasn't knowing, you would go back a hundred years to see if somebody in my family got money. They ain't never get money like this or had that like so this is all learning why you're growing, you know, and and and with me, I had a lot of like today, I cut somebody off. They had somebody after you guess. I watched the ship. It was an amazing story. I found out he was a rat. I said, Yo, he can't come up here on this couch. That Nick can't come in here. Hey, he just can't. You can't come on this couch for my fluidity. Right. But what I'm saying to you, Ish, this is years of developing and these characters and going through mistakes and floors, and there's nothing. We ain't know nothing, you know what I'm saying. You know the beauty Joe, not the cuts from that.

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Speaker 4: We gave ourselves a chance to evall and to learn. This younger generation they cutting themselves at the means. It's like getting to this stage.

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Speaker 1: It's a luxible. It's a blessings, you know what I mean? Every single let them know. Get that's that real single day we wake up we call each other, yo, thank god we got another day right now at this point Highway Robbins. Right. So my wife and my daughter went out last night and I stood home by by the way. It feels good. Being home by yourself. They fit is incredible. Email. Why I don't know this ship? I go pause? Did you cut the hold up? I got the new set, yo, Listen, I got a new massage ship. It's so expensive. Don't try this at home. But I bought the motherfucker and I went up in there. Right, you went with me, may But listen what I'm saying that I like taking bath. So I got the big jakouzie. I'm by myself. I'm playing I want. It's a paus moment.

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Speaker 3: That's what he pre fall. He through the flag early. Let's just get it out the way. Let's get him out the way. Now you can tell the story and peace. We had to throw the flags. He already heard the bath.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Malls, he's playing that ship up on there. Someone thank you. Then I'm just looking at little ship, like the light bulbs and the fucking marble with the and I'm just like your god, wow, dank you. This is like fucking the mix because like you said, we always chasing the check work and we barely home. They enjoyed, and I'm looking at the light bulbs. That's real, motherfucker. This is great. And I've been living there fourth I'm like.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, man, to get to that point and still be trying to grow. Oh yeah, and still it's a lot of stuff like Fat Joe. I don't want to interview myself. They say, yeah, Joety too much. But I had to work on myself. I was a really bad guy, like a really bad guy, and they knew it, and so they were scared of me. This whole fucking industry was terrified. And so what they do when they terrified of a guy, they block your blessings and they're like, yo, why would you? It's same thing in the drug game. I'm the connect, I'm l Choppo. I got a guy who's a nice guy, who's nonviolent, who always turns his money in time. Now that another guy who might kill me for these bricks? Why would I want to make him powerful and feed him when I could keep dealing with all right, so we could deal with Fat Joe, you could deal with Lupe Fiasco.

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Speaker 4: But you know what those But you know what, though, joke, you always had a good heart. I'll tell you a story that you fight don't even remember. I don't know speak on the God off God bless When pun hal first past, Steve Rifkin called me one day, you was on the phone.

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Speaker 1: He called me like God talks from me. That's a very you know, uh sensitive moment. He was just like, yo, you're long to say, and I'm all right, we got on three yo. You was really feeling it devastated.

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Speaker 4: We talked for a minute or whatever, but I just like, damn, and I told you, I was like, yo, in a way kind of like humanized like hip hop, like.

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Speaker 6: Human stuff can happen to it because we all grew up all we all like we thought every rappers is like literally like I heard y'all talk about this on it, but I'm like, yo, it's a little kid nap. We really thought that, you know what I'm saying, And so something like health and things of that nation.

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Speaker 1: I remember me and you was talking about that. Only say that to say you always had a good heart.

00:29:15
Speaker 4: You might've you know, done some things here and there, but I think that's why continue to get blessed, you know what I'm saying, because your your heart was kind of like always in the right place.

00:29:25
Speaker 1: You felling what I'm saying. Yeah, So yeah, thank you man for that. Yeah, I got a good heart. Huh. Let me tell you something. Yeah, my heart was always in the right place, even when I grew up in the Bronx before rap music. It was always trying to help people and look out for people. But you know, it's a matter of about You know. I got a friendly passed away, older white guy, my man, Kevin Buckman rest in peace, Remark of America. And we had these conferences where we talked to like fifty thousand people and motivate them and stuff like that to be entrepreneurs. So one day I sit in the back with him and we talked and he was like, Yojoe, tell me how you grew up. I said, oo, Cav, you know I grew up. He was like, no, not, I'm interested because he was a big coach. I said, well, sold a lot of drugs. Said you know, I'm embarrassed. I'm actually ashamed of you. He said, we shouldn't And I said, what you mean, Cav. He said, that was your natural habitat. You did what you had to do to survive. He said, you think if I ain't grow up in them projects in the Bronx and the only way to get up out of there was selling drugs, I wouldn't have sold drugs. This was shocking to me that he even thought like that. Although we're not proud about it, but he was just like Yo, you dealt with what was strown at you, with the cards that were stown at you. You had to deal with that. And pretty much that's the story of my life. I think if I grew up in a better place and shit like that, I might have been But.

00:30:58
Speaker 7: We always say that, even when we look at the old heads that was legends and all of that, you always be like, Yo, they grew up and went to stamping and you know, this dude could have ran a fortune five hundred you know what I mean, But he grew up in the peas over here, you know what I'm saying, off work or whatever.

00:31:13
Speaker 1: And that's what it was. And they were entrepreneurs. Just the product that was available. It was when it was given actually worked harder because you got your friends trying to kill you and come up, you got the police trying to lock you up every day. Then you got the fast deal giving you the long term.

00:31:32
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the long term for four hundred showered policy.

00:31:38
Speaker 1: So you got that. They all be Yo.

00:31:40
Speaker 4: I was watching this documentary remember Crazy Eddie. Yeah, they had the documentary. I'm like, yo, I remember Crazy Yo wreck. What's crazy versus is insane?

00:31:51
Speaker 1: It was insane for real. It was a whole operation where it was movie shit. Him, Michael Milker, like all these dudes.

00:31:57
Speaker 4: It's like, yo, they you know, when they come to the black and brown community, they always try to put this stigma on us.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: But it's like when you turn the light on other communities. Ainybody doing the same thing. You know what I'm saying. We just we just had of control. We just be styling on themselves. How was it big?

00:32:14
Speaker 3: Managing a household with you a superstar actor and your wife a superstar singing part of a superstar group, down with a superstar label.

00:32:26
Speaker 1: Man wifey man, That's that's my world right there.

00:32:29
Speaker 4: We've been down so long, like as far as like knowing each other and growing together andy thing like that. So starting the family was just kind of like, she's to me more beautiful on the inside than the out, and that's what counts. And so to be able to have a family for that.

00:32:51
Speaker 1: You live in that little town they told us about a little town in Georgia. That wasn't you who what was it? Somebody? Bam one of them told us they live in the Alpinia, Georgia. Nona, No, now we out, we out on the West coast. But a man right started, I want to live in the little town one day. You know how that fit like big ja Coozie's big ship. I get that on the way home, mother fucking night, right in my face, I get that on the way home. Its trazy. I've always dreamed of. Like you know, when we go on tour and we drive them buses all over, I'll be like, damn, I would like to live it's some ship like.

00:33:36
Speaker 4: This, Now you want to have it? We might have a spot there. But listen, we city kids do them too.

00:33:43
Speaker 1: It is me right, you know what. I bought a house in fucking this ship is crazy. I bought a house when I first moved to Miami. I start hanging out with all these all football players and the football players they live out western plantation acres, and he got big ass houses. I mean my house was big, and the next door neighbor ships was three times bigger than mine. Every guy on the block was a football player, right, So people riding horses and ship I'm coming from New York, you know what I'm saying. With the New York fluidity, I thought that's what I wanted when I went there. Man middle of the night. You hear that you got fucking posses of rack coons. I was shockl posses Nick kicks Scullies on the coming on the window. I'm like, yoall, get the fuck. They're like, yo, my man, like your raccoons ain't scared of nobody. Bang on and shit do whatever you listen your raccoons was Cully's joke. I'm just trying to tell you that in Miami they did not well they could at least somebodys ther motherfuckers don't give a fuck, Like I'm banging on the window. Yo, Yo, Yo, Yo, Trump, They're not scared. Now go in your garbage right in front of you. It is cool playing. They fucking Doug. You know what you know, Florida people have like animals, like animals they're not supposed to have. Florida Wilde. I'm mad them niggas just going I'm like, what the it's got a camel fucking or something. This ship out of control, Like, I'm scared that the only good thing about Florida. I got the Tony Monte Yo, always waiting for somebody come now. I had the big ship man say, I loaded my know, the stupid dumb them ship man, somebody try to break in that front door. I just couldn't wait, guys, carry so I got this, and all you guys that live in a legal gun state all got one of them shits by the door. Wait for somebody to walk up in that bitch. I'll be like where they come up terminated to that ship.

00:36:04
Speaker 3: I can't wait right now, right the bell house now terminated to come in.

00:36:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I mean, it was an experience, But I always say I wish I could live in like a little town.

00:36:22
Speaker 4: I like visiting, But you know, unless I'm on like Allen somewhere, like when I travel the world, that's when I be like, man, I can pick up a thing. Plus my son and we are senior in high school, so we about to be empty Nesta's so.

00:36:36
Speaker 1: I'm already like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean, we could fly to work. Well now I'm ready to.

00:36:44
Speaker 3: Allan is nice as far as the bag, I know that's always lovely and a plus. But you still do you have that same passion about for sure, because it's it never leaves you in evolving, you know, doing right.

00:37:00
Speaker 1: And I'm going to direct one day.

00:37:02
Speaker 4: You know, just evolving, getting into the other parts of it, not just you know, in front of the camera. When I am in front of the camera, it's really something that I want to be.

00:37:10
Speaker 1: It's really how I want to spend my time. And I feel like front of the camera.

00:37:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, in front of the camera, but yeah, being an actor and it's you know, the artist forever.

00:37:20
Speaker 1: This is a crap.

00:37:21
Speaker 4: I think you will much like you know write, and I think get better in time because you live more, got more rain, you.

00:37:29
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. So you know, I'm excited about this next chapter. What are some of the black actors' most iconic scenes?

00:37:41
Speaker 4: Jack cogg I can't front Joe. Nobody's ever asked for that question ever, so I can't front. So I'm the first scene I'm thinking of Sydney Poitier. It was basically the first time seeing a black man smack a white man camp. Damn, I've seen that on the clip. I've seen that in the heat of the night, I believe. Yeah, yeah, it was just so jarring. You never seen that before. But that's also my acting hero since you know what I mean, rest in peace. Trying to think of that. There's so many scenes and do the right thing like three or four of them. I mean, that was a great question. Yeah, that was a great question. But that's the first one that comes from mind. Yeah, that was some of the act. Hold up was one of the most iconic scenes. Did you would call this same question for you Cane's grandfather? Do you care whether you live or die? I don't know, m look at his face.

00:38:53
Speaker 1: You can't.

00:38:54
Speaker 3: You know?

00:38:54
Speaker 1: Your man? Your man always gone your man. I always got to revolve, man, how is he looking at me?

00:39:04
Speaker 6: Do?

00:39:04
Speaker 1: Now? That was like is there we had seen would be anybody looked at me, anybody said something, anybody ever has some mated jealousy. I'm a chill stick yo. That's ship man to yo. I feel like that like in real life. That that that was very powerful. Oh, that was very powerful. That's a great, great question. We really skated past juice. Not we ain't given enough praise, but to me, juice And and that's why I said, we don't want to type cast you. Whatever the case may be, you young hood. But that's an illmatic. That movie, to me is like such an illmatic, a classic.

00:40:02
Speaker 3: Watching it's timeless to watch it. Whenever he comes on and whenever you catch it, you can watch it. You know, it's the only ship with that. That guy at the end he started working for BT. So every time we go to the BET Awards, I see him at the end and tell him you got the juice that looking They're like, oh, ship, that's really it.

00:40:25
Speaker 1: I met Tupac shortly after that, but I met Tupac from Juice. I didn't meet that Pop, right did you? Underground? And right right for a little bit of Bishop and man, boy, I tell you I was dead. Came confirmed the story. I'm in the crowd, got the game's performing, and Biggie and Pop come in. There's this quick car together. But they come through the back through the crowd. They're not coming through back. They walked through the crowd and the man was full flash juice Tupac. He was walking through the crowd like he was like yo' spot. He was walking through like pot like Biggie with him. And that's when they do that I got seven back eleven's about eight. That shit, that's legend. Legend.

00:41:12
Speaker 4: That's it's ill because like the kids don't understand, like before social media, they can't even comprehend. They don't understand like the magnitude when you say like coming through or whoever. I got so many memories of people like that. That's the only time you saw them. So to see somebody in person.

00:41:33
Speaker 1: One hard Drive, people went crazy Banana.

00:41:37
Speaker 4: It's like all the video for you you see Michael Jackson back in the day's people.

00:41:42
Speaker 1: It was like that be for us, you know what I mean. They don't understand brow tu box should call walked in like the juice Yep, we have to scully like that. The for even dressed just like this right now, was walking in like even me. I know him. I'm looking like yo, that ship you know, we know. You know what's crazy is my brother DJ Calid. You know, one day I'm in the backyard, I mean your caliber, God blessed j Caliber. I don't even know how to explain this shit to you, rights, but I'm in the backyard with him. And he said, you know, Joe, you're star and this and this and that, he said, but it was nothing like watching you walk in with big h He said, you walking in with big pun both of y'all together big He said that ship was like superheroes walking see yo, man, y'all two used to walk in like Joe and Pond. You know what I'm saying. It's certain people got that presence. You know where you got that superhero presence? You know, I don't want to say five, but give me five albums that inspired you. Yeah, yeah, artists and and nol. But it ain't gotta be top five. And we start her boot tape. I don't know, it's not here, that's yours, beloved. I don't I don't like the five and the three. You kind of gotta do top five, you gotta do like Errors.

00:43:20
Speaker 4: I think errors is more fit because like the first time, I remember the first time I heard ain't no halfstuff on the radio. The first time I heard that, I wanted to jump through the wall. We never heard nothing like that, but it was like, what is that?

00:43:37
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And then by the time a video came out and all of this something video music. But I was hired, right, I was fired. I was a terrible guy, and I grew up with violence. And if you wanted people beat up whatever, you merse on every joke, Yeah, you come pick up fat Joe and right real talk first in every joke. That's the name of the movie. They come. That's it. They come and say, Fat Joe, I'm gonna buy you three per Jordan's and the pelee. I need you to put in this work. And I would jumping, I'm saying, and they say, the guy with the red shirt. Anything in the world. I jump out there like clashing the type. That's what I did, right, the first guy I met, I'm not saying the hit man. Let's eliminate that one day. My reputation got out there so much. And he's my brother, this guy named Scarfee Steve. He's the first kingpin I ever met. And so he came to my block looking for me at the Cherry red three hundred with the wide body kit. And the reason I'm telling you this story is I'm a bumm okay, Like, I don't know if these people understand I'm a bump. I was tough, but I had two dollars in my pockets if that might have been one. So he comes picked me up. You know you're thinking he changing your life. That's like e F. Hunting is some shit, right, So he pull up y'all Fat Joe, Yeah, yo, getting the call. I'm looking at the whole project the block, like y'all Sniggy can't get me in this fucking cherry red best and I locked the door. He had a white popped out of the group and this ship just said on and on and on, ain't no half stepping. And the knees start driving off, you know how the dogs be in the car where they be having their head for the wind. I got my face out of that window and I made him drive me ten times around the projects on and on. Right. No, man, that's your sake. That shit changed my life right there. Man, it shout out to Steve Man. Listen, that ain't no half step in it. It's Joy's like that is it? You're right? It's ever album. Oh we're talking about it the other day when I was somebody yesterday.

00:46:14
Speaker 4: Midnight Marauder's album, same thing, Yo. We drove around, we drove back to Queens. It's like one in the morning, we hit daylight, just back to back to just listening to the album. Yo, this is the most incredible, you know, moments like that. The music, just just the music and the people making the music. You understand I'm saying, the artists is driving it. What we're doing for not only ourselves and our family. What we're doing for this culture that that we were bestowed sort of passed on to us, you know what I mean? And I think you know we're still in it, but we left it in great shape from the Jones that they they want it up right now.

00:47:02
Speaker 1: Crazy, Yeah, they just got to come outside to the yard. Unless in your kiss listen, you ever went to somebody's neighborhood like you love an artist and you had to go there like like you didn't know them yet, rappers and you was like, nah, I wasn't one of those niggas.

00:47:19
Speaker 6: I was.

00:47:19
Speaker 1: I'm coming to y' all. Hell all the way today.

00:47:21
Speaker 3: I wasn't into the baby and maybe in Mount Vernon, see if you see he or something.

00:47:26
Speaker 1: I wasn't.

00:47:27
Speaker 4: I drive.

00:47:28
Speaker 1: I drove to jay Zon, I drove.

00:47:31
Speaker 3: See you and for them all the concourse, so real ship we wasn't I should was for I shop was like one twenty fifth, one forty fifth.

00:47:42
Speaker 1: Ju Man for them. That was the Then then it switched almost sat paron Bronx Man, where you guys are like connected to the Bronx, Likecaus is like a part of the Bronx. It's connected literally. Yeah. Yeah, after the Bronxie go in his jackets. Man, I never forget I had my man. He he was running the Bronx. He's in jail forty six years and but he lived. His crib was on the lo. Yonkis man. I fucked up, man, we did. Uh. It was the Sauce Awards, the Sorce Awards where Sugar Night, this buff Daddy and all that shit and out cast one. So I gassed the nigga. He had the new five hundred bends. It was like Joe, pull it out. He was like, nah, Joe, this, I mean the big ship that pun you to. But I mean, I'm talking about a year before someone seemed one humanly possible, and I was gassing the nigga. Yo, we gotta pull up sort some wards, yo. Man. We got on the highway. We crashed that fucking bend on the way that that fucking that nigga wanted to kill me paralyzed face, yo, fat boy. He made me crash this ship because it was like, you know, it's almost like a broach, like you know that ship, like you driving a boat. Them joints was heavy. Nobody you had them ships. This ship was only that. If you had a three hundred, you was the man ain't man the five hundred big body shit shit crashed up on the side of that ship. From your whole mind, I thought he was gonna kill me. Then we had to go and get a regular card. Just go to this Sauce Awards that day. But that ship, you know, I remember gassing them. You know, hey, it's good to know that you have different levels of that life. You know what I'm saying. You gotta always remember those things when you had to cash your man to jump in his w and ship like that. You know what I'm saying that that's a big deal. Right, I'm pulling up the Sauce Awards. I'm like, Yo, she gonna be crazy. Man, we need to fight. The man told me mad Boy made novel made.

00:49:49
Speaker 4: We funked out getting they catch Moses to But Moses Black is in theaters.

00:49:55
Speaker 1: Let's go, man, Let's get your ass out of here.

00:49:57
Speaker 3: Rib go to the theater's papers of take get your men, support our people.

00:50:02
Speaker 1: How So until it gets in like the streaming appsing, by the time this episode comes out is in the no it's in theaters. I'm just gonna go to the Yo. We got a hard out this ship, right, here gotta come out because the movie out, because that ship to be in the chappa Z Bridge before you know this ship it guys right here, But go to the theater. You know, we're talking about the theaters. It's about the experience, you know what I mean.

00:50:33
Speaker 4: It's going to see not only with your people's but people you don't know, y'all reacting to the same part two months straight?

00:50:40
Speaker 1: No call, yeah, yeah, you know that the theater. Get me back into that dyke coke that popcorn. You gotta have a gliss you know that ship.

00:50:55
Speaker 3: Yeah you eat popcorn, no butter.

00:51:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a car. You know, I ain't been fucking a car. But yo, the movie theater. We need everybody to go in there to the movie theater. Go supposes the black one of that Marty Supreme and you going to all that other shit. Yeah, we need you all right before we leave, I know it's time for you to go. But how proud are we of Tianna Taylor Man? Incredible, incredibly proud man. Tianna.

00:51:27
Speaker 8: You know, she from the town, but she is ridiculously talented, she always has been, and it's just so dope to see her. Get her just just do and to get these opportunities because she only getting started.

00:51:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that, looking like Viola Davison all under me now. And she's young. She's young, so I'm like, you know, I feel like she moving AI. That's only it's only one of her.

00:51:56
Speaker 4: It's just dope to see her get her just due and get those opportunities. And because she she she hitting home runs every time. So saluting Tiana. Were proudly loved you. You know we proudly too, Yo. This ain't that. That ain't this cracking kiss makes some noise for home as blade, thank you really, thank you, thank you.

00:52:22
Speaker 1: Thank you for pulling up his six degree weather o ship. Real out there, it ain't nothing